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June 30, 2023

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Session Summary

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The Premier announced successful wage negotiations with three major public sector unions (BIU, BPSU, and BUT) covering about 4,400 government workers. After two years without pay increases, workers will receive 2.25% raises for both 2022/23 and 2023/24, plus a $700 one-time payment, costing government about $19.4 million total. The Minister of Social Development presented the Human Rights Commission's annual report, revealing that 24% of discrimination complaints involved disability issues, with employment discrimination being the most common area. She also provided an update on a UN partnership program launched one year ago to support women, youth, and disabled persons in economic sectors like agriculture and tourism.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jun 30, 2023
Session 2022/2023
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Speakers 23
Speeches 336

Key Topics

Government reached wage agreements with major public sector unions after extended negotiationsHuman Rights Commission's 2022 annual report showing disability discrimination as top complaint categoryUN partnership program update on gender equality and women's empowerment initiativesTribute to late former MP Ottiwell "Ottie" Simmons, prominent union leader who recently passed away

Bills & Motions

No bills or motions were presented in this sitting. The session focused on ministerial statements and reports, including the Bermuda Hospitals Board Annual Report 2019/20 and Human Rights Commission Annual Report 2022.

Notable Moments

The session opened with a moment of silence for former MP Ottiwell Simmons, with multiple members paying tribute to his legacy as a union leader and "lion of the modern labour movement"
A delegation from the Bahamas was welcomed to the public gallery as they participate in independence anniversary celebrations
The Premier emphasized that wage negotiations concluded without any strikes or industrial action, unlike global trends during this period

Debate Transcript

336 speeches from 23 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. The Clerk will now lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner , Acting Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members . The House is now in session. Thank you. [Gavel] ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITORS
The Speaker The Speaker Members, before we start, I am going to do two pieces. First, we are going to acknowledge that we have present with us in our Gallery this morning, the delegation from [the] Bahamas , led by Minister Mitchell, who are here participating in a lot of the celebrations that Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker The other matter, Members, [is that] I am going to ask you to rise to your feet again. As is customary when one of our former Members has passed, we take that moment of silence to recognise that Member. And as we all know, we are here after the recent …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. We can be seated. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 16 June 2023 ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of the 16 th of June sitting have been circulated. Are there any amendments required? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 16 June 2023 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker We received communications from the following Members of their absence today: MP Wade and MP Caesar have both indicated that they will be absent. BERMUDA OMBUDSMAN ANNUAL REPORT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker I also have the Ombudsman’s Annual Report for 2022. This report has been submitted to me in compliance with section 24(1) and 24 (3) of the Ombudsman Act 2004. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker We have two this morning. The first is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. 1574 30 June 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD ANNUAL REPORT 2019/20 Hon. Kim N. Wilson : Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honour-able House of Assembly the Bermuda Hospitals Board Annual Report 2020.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The second is in the name of the Minister of Social Development and Seniors. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 2022 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Human Rights Commission 2022 Annual Report.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have three Statements this morning. The first is in the name of the Premier. Premier, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Good to have you back.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Good to be back. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATIONS WITH GOVERNMENT’S LARGEST UNION PARTNERS Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to share the outcome of successful negotiations with the Government’s largest union partners . Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members will recall that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Social Development and Seniors. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is it possible I could have the podium? [Pause] HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION 2022 ANNUAL REPORT Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. I believe the next Statement is also yours. Minister, would you like to deliver it? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes. Thank you very much.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. UPDATE ON THE UNITED NATIONS JOINT PROGRAMME: BUILDING BACK EQUAL THROUGH INNOVATIVE FINANCING FOR GENDER EQUALITY AND WOMEN’S EMPOWERMENT Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, this morning I am delighted to provide this Honourable House with an update on the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) Joint Programme: Building …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, this brings us to an end of the Statements for this morning. We now move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are no written questions this morning. So, the questions today will be per the Statements that were given this morning. And there is only one Statement that has generated questions. Minister of Social Development, you have a question in reference to your first Statement regarding the human rights. MP …
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. And good morning to the Minister. Thank you for your Statement on the Annual Report for the Human Rights Commission. In your Statement at page 2 you highlight that the largest area of discrimination complaints, 24 per cent of discrimination complaints, are …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the percentage indicated was in regard to the intakes of complaints. But the actual investigations, Mr. Speaker, in regard to disability, the number of grounds were only three. And they were more so indicated in the area of employment. And if colleagues want to …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you. Supplementary. I understood the answer there for it to be that the national disabilities plan is the Government’s proposal to improve laws for the disabled in Bermuda. Did I understand that correctly?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, that is one segment of what we are working on. The national intellectual dis-abilities plan is one segment of an area which we are working on as it relates to disability.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, second supplementary. You gave a Statement to the House, Minister, in 2021 (or at least I believe it was 2021) about disabled access to buildings. I am just wondering how that legislative announcement is progressing . Hon. Tinee Furbert: Sorry, Mr. Speaker, I do not recall what the Member …
The Speaker The Speaker Do you want to add a little clarity to it just to help her?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. You gave a Statement to the Honourable House about how you were progressing laws for the disabled in Bermuda. And one of the things that you were looking at or this Government was looking at was accessibility for disabled [persons] to buildings. And I am just wondering how that …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay —
Mr. Scott Pearman I will move on, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. QUESTION 2: HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION 2022 ANNUAL REPORT
Mr. Scott Pearman One of the other announcements in your Statement this morning is about the 13 members being appointed to the new tribunal panel. I am just wondering how the practicalities of that are being rolled out, or are they rolled out? Is the panel now sit-ting, et cetera? Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The panel is now sitting.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Third question.
The Speaker The Speaker Third. Okay. QUESTION 3: HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION 2022 ANNUAL REPORT
Mr. Scott Pearman Third and final. You also in 2021 announced proposed legislative updates to the Human Rights Act. That is referred to as well in this annual report. How are those an-nouncements of some two years ago progressing?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Member for asking that question. We are currently working on changes to the Human Rights Act in phases. And you should be hearing of some of those changes in the near future. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. “In the near future” —does that mean that we are going to see any legislative tabling in the coming weeks, months, et cetera?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary or complete?
Mr. Scott Pearman No supplementary from me. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, that is the end of questions for you. Members, that was the only Member who had indicated that they had questions for today’s Question Period. So, we will now move on. Thank you, Members, for your participation. The Question Period having come to a close, we now …
The Speaker The Speaker Give me one moment just to reset our clock here. Mr. Premier, you have your three minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Mr. Speaker, earlier today we opened up our session of the House of Assembly in a moment of silence to the late …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: So I wish her all success in her future endeavours. And as I said, Mr. Speaker, I wish to associate the whole House. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Speaker The Speaker Before I acknowledge the next speaker, I would just like to acknowledge the presence in the Gallery today of a former Member of Parliament, Michael Scott. Welcome and happy to have you here today. 1582 30 June 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Desk thumping] [Congratulatory and/or Obituary …
The Speaker The Speaker Good. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker. I just would like to take this opportunity to be associated with the condolences to the family of the late Mr. Ottiwell Simmons, and indeed to the Bermuda Industrial Union family, and also the Progressive Labour Party family, who all mourn his passing, an d his many …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Swan.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? I will let the lady who rose this morning have an opportunity. MP Foggo, you have your three minutes. [Laughter]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to be associated with the condolences for Ottiwell Simmons. Not only was he a great unionist, a great —I would call him a freedom fighter. He was a gentleman and most importantly, I can call him friend. I was a part of …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes, and he is correct. I had a great -niece who also graduated from the Class of 2023. What stands out is the many scholarships that so many of our young Berkeleyites were able to secure. Of course, there were many scholarships offered. But of course, many of them can …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. MP Simmons, you have your three minutes, sir.
Mr. Jamahl Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly Dr. Martin Luther King once said, “ We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right .” And that quote applies perfectly to the late Member, the Honourable Ottiwell Simmons. I had the good …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Simmons. Deputy Premier, would you like to have your three minutes? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to be associated with the remarks of the perhaps less condolence, but celebration of the life of Ottiwell Askew Simmons. As the Member who followed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Opposition Leader, would you like to have your three minutes? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to also associate myself in regard to the comments made to the Honourable Ottiwell Simmons. To me he was a genuine hero. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Minister Furbert, you have your three minutes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to also be associated with the remarks in regard to Honourable Member and …
The Speaker The Speaker The whole House, yes, yes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I just want to share that sport is the only area in which we can evaluate visually someone’s skill. Any other sort of subject, you would have to have an intimate look in regard to someone’s skill area. So, it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Minister Campbell, you have your three minutes. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate the Hamilton Princess on the successful completion and unveiling of their Business Meeting Centre. This happened yesterday. It is a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Ming, you have your three minutes.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker and the listening audience.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mrs. Renee Ming First of all, I would like to be associated with the comments for Brother Ottiwell Simmons. I know that some of the benefits that we enjoy today are because of his hard work and determination, and in most cases his sacrifice. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to send congratulatory …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Ming. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Famous, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker and colleagues and the people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I start off on a good note. As MP Foggo said, Berkeley had their graduation, and 98 per cent of the S4 class graduated. Only two males were not yet successful. So, we want to congratulate our …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Does any other — MP Simmons -Wade, I saw you rise first. You have your three minutes.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons- Wade Good morning, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Government, the Bermuda Government and the public.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade First of all, I would like to associate myself with the remarks that were made in regard to Ottie Simmons. I have known Ottie for 40- plus years as a very good friend of my late husband, Frederick Wade. I used to sit and listen as they were at the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Minister Weeks, you have your three minutes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for giving me the opportunity. Mr. Speaker, I want to start off by associating myself with the condolences for Brother Ottie Simmons. I do not know where to start. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Adams, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Jache Adams Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Jache Adams And good morning to the listening public. If you will indulge me, I will use this — [Music was heard playing.]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, do you want to play music for us all this morning? [Laughter]
Mr. Jache Adams If you will indulge me, I will use these three minutes to actually be a PLP three minutes. So first I wanted or wished to associate myself with the condolences to [the family of] Brother Ottiwell Simmons as well. I did not know Mr. Simmons at all, but I knew …
Mr. Jache Adams In particular, persons —multiple times. In particular, persons on our side of the aisle can attest to her hard work and dedication. So certainly [it is] well deserved. And as the Premier acknowledged, she has now won this multiple times. So I am just putting it out early and letting …
Mr. Jache Adams Well, finally, Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to take a brief moment to acknowledge that two days ago would have been the 84 th birthday of former Leader of the PLP, L. Frederick Wade. When we speak of legacy, when we talk about legacy in terms of Ottiwell Simmons, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Government Whip, would you like your three minutes?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to all.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell: Mr. Speaker, first let me associate with the condolences already sent to the family of Ottiwell Simmons. I certainly want to say personally that Ottie was one of my mentors. Very quietly he directed me in many issues concerning …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Government Whip, Mr. Tyrrell. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Deputy Speaker, you have your three minutes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first I would like to ask this House to send congratulations to Mr. Edwin Wilson. I would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Deputy. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Dunkley, you have your three minutes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too would like to add my condolences to the passing of Ottiwell Simmons. When I first got involved, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make— MP Simmons, Scott Simmons, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Scott Simmons Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, honourable colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I would like to rise in this House and join my honourable colleagues in this House as we send our condolences out to the family of the Honour-able Ottiwell Simmons. I like the fact that the Deputy Speaker highlighted …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Member. Before we move on, I am going to rise to make a couple of comments myself in regard to former col-league, Ottie, as we all referred to him. I had …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we will now move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker You will note that the Order Paper indicates there are no [Government Bills]. However, we are going to seek the indulgence of the House to allow the Premier to introduce a Bill at this time. Members, does the Premier have the indulgence of the House?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am grateful the indulgence of Honourable Members. FIRST READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2023 Hon. E. David Burt: I move that the Government Bill entitled the Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act 2023 be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. 1590 30 June 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker The item to be discussed at this time is the second reading of the Child Day Care Allowance Amendment Act 2023 in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Child Day Care Allowance Amendment Act …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none, continue Minister. BILL SECOND READING CHILD DAY CARE ALLOWANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2023 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to introduce a Bill entitled the Child Day Care Allowance Amendment Act 2023. The purpose of the Bill is to amend the Child …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Jason Hayward: Well, this change allows you to do that. We also know that there could be severe medical emergencies that the total coverage may not be covered by the health insurance plan that the individual is on. And as a result, this allows individuals to also receive …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? The Opposition Whip, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Minister for bringing this legislation to the House. I would echo a lot of his sentiments in terms of the protection of the vulnerable amongst us, but I will put that into my contribution as well as my questions to him. …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. On 16 June the Minister said (as he just said) in his Ministerial State-ment , “The purpose of this Bill is to allow the Minister to (1) prescribe the maximum gross annual household income in respect of an application for a child day care allowance; (2) provide categories …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Richardson. Minister Wilson, yes. Minister Wilson, you have the floor. Does any other . . . yes, Minister Wilson. You have the floor. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, you will recall approximately two months ago the Honourable Minister Hayward informed this Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Still morning. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: It deals specifically with greater access to childcare. And again, Mr. Speaker, these enhanced protections for individuals and families in need will make sure that eligible Bermudians have the full financial awards and support that are required to prevent them from falling through the …
Speaker The Speaker Again, this speaks specifically to the importance of early childhood education, which if you believed in that, you would obviousl y believe in the reasons behind this legislation to ensure that all parents have equal access for their children to early childhood education without breaking the bank —those persons in …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy Speaker, I see you on your feet. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker So you have the floor, sir. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first I would like to thank this Minister for bringing this legislation to this House. And as I heard the speaker from the Opposition, I think if the Minister had the authority to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: We thank God for grannies, Mr. Speaker, because in those days grannies did not work because they had about eight children. So if you had a child there was always somewhere to take little Johnny, right? And you just drop …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Do you want to . . .
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The Deputy just yielded to you. MP Foggo, you have about eight minutes before—
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo I know it is five minutes to the lunch break.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Mr. Speaker, the Member who just took his seat touched on many points. And so what I would like to say, because I am not going to touch on all of those points, but I want to say this is an example of where a Minister has been very considered …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Deputy, do you want to take us to that break time? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Very much so. Your microphone was not on, so people could not hear that. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: So, Mr. Speaker, I move that we adjourn until 2:00 pm.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are no objections. Members, the House now stands adjourned until 2:00 pm. [Gavel] 1598 30 June 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Proceedings suspended at 12:28 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:01 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. I trust everyone had a good lunch. The House is now back in session. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker When we adjourned for lunch, the floor had been given to the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, would you like to continue? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am going to yield to the Honourable Member Tinee Furbert to speak prior to myself.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. No problem. Hon. Walter H. Roban: And others may follow her as well.
The Speaker The Speaker Sure. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert, you have the floor. BILL SECOND READING CHILD DAY CARE ALLOWANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2023 [Continuation thereon] Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Deputy [Premier]. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to start with a word, “respect.” And the reason I want to start with this word is …
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good afternoon to you, my colleagues and those in the listening audience. I am overjoyed to be able to stand and comment on what is now being proposed, because I think we all understand how fundamentally important it is for people to get off to a good start, because even …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ever so briefly, the need for this Bill today is one that I commend, like others have, the Minister for bringing to this Honourable House. And we only have to look at the context of the challenges our society is faced with to appreciate the need. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other? Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the opportunity to contribute to this important debate. Much has been said by Members thus far, and I must commend all of the contributions thus …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Deputy Premier. Would any other Members like to contribute to this debate? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Dunkley from constituency 10. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Acting Speaker, and good afternoon to everybody. As colleagues have already said before me, we on this side …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member from constituency 10. Would any other Member like to contribute to this worthy debate? The [Chair] recognises the Member from constituency 33.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Acting Speaker. This is a pleasant surprise, and I appreciate your allowing me to participate in the debate. First of all, I would like to extend to the public . . . We all know that Bermudians are very proud and we do not like handouts. And …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member from constituency 33. The [Chair] now recognises the Honourable Education Minister, Diallo Rabain. [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you, colleagues who have spoken already. Mr. Speaker, when I look back at the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy, do you still have time? Okay. House in Committee at 3:34 pm 1610 30 June 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman ] COMMITTEE ON BILL CHILD DAY CARE ALLOWANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2023
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further considera-tion of the Bill entitled Child Day Care Allowance Amendment Act 2023 . Minister Hayward, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I rise in this Honourable House today to speak to the Bill entitled …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, clause 1 is self - explanatory. Clause 2 amends section 2 (“Interpretation”) of the principal Act by defining “gross annual household income” and “supporting parent or spouse.” Mr. Chairman, clauses 3, 5 and 6 amend the principal Act in section 3 (“Application for day …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Any further speakers to clauses 1 through 6? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Richardson from constituency 23.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I note in the amendment Bill at clause 3, which reads, “Section 3 of the principal Act is amended — "(a) in subsection (2) by deleting ‘income,’ and sub-stituting ‘income and the name and gross annual income of any supporting parent or spouse, . . .’” …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, the drafters thought it appropriate that all definitions go under the Interpretation section of the Act. As a result, any defini-tions that were found in the body of the principal Act were moved to the Interpretation section.
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Richardson, anything further?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Honourable Minister. Further on to clause 4 of the Bill, reading, “Amends section 4” “4 Section 4 of the principal Act is amended— "(a) in subsection (1)(c) by inserting after ‘an-nual’ the word ‘household’; "(b) by repealing subsection (2).” Actually, I would like to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: In the principal Act that particular carveout was pertaining to a person being qualified on a personal income level, not exceeding the maximum prescribed amount. However, we have removed personal income levels and we have moved to annual household income that we inserted in …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would the Honourable Minister . . . so my question relates to how a person would be not qualified, because section 4(2) says “a person is not qualified . . .” I take the point that we are given that we are changing enough definitions …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Honourable Minister.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Any further speakers on clauses 1 through 6? Minister, do you want to move clauses 1 through 6? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 6 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections to approving clauses 1 through 6? There appear to be none. Clauses 1 through 6 approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 6passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: I move clauses 7 and 8.
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, clause 7 amends section 17, Regulations, of the principal Act to allow the Minister to prescribe the maximum gross annual household income, not the maximum gross annual income; and to prescribe categories of such incomes for the purpose of granting a maximum award …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to clauses 7 and 8? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 7 and 8 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 7 and 8 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Clauses 7 and 8 are approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 7 and 8 passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The preamble is approved. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections to the Bill being reported to the House as printed? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Child Day Care Allowance Amendment Act 2023 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 3:43 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE CHILD DAY CARE ALLOWANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2023
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Child Day Care Allowance Amendment Act 2023 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported as printed. Members, that actually brings us to the end of that matter. The next matter this afternoon is the motion, …
The Speaker The Speaker In the meantime — [Inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you know, I hear a little echo coming from the East End in trying to use a Cup Match analogy here. And I think all of us know in this House that, yes, we are in that season. But we also know that after that season is over, the …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Can we all point -of-order the Speaker? [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Are you agreeing with the Speaker, Madam from St. George’s? Is that what you are saying? [Crosstalk and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker We are just waiting. For the public, the listening audience, we are all human in this facility. And Mother Nature affects all of us at some time. And we have been gracious that the Minister was able to lead the debate this morning, and we are just giving him a …
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Quite all right. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now take under consideration the following motion, notice of which was given on the 16 th of June 2023: “BE IT RESOLVED that this Honourable House supports the Economic Development Strategy Bermuda 2023– 2027 …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. MOTION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY BERMUDA 2023 –2027 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to lead off on the debate surrounding the Government’s Economic Development Strategy. Mr. Speaker, what is abundantly clear is that this Government has a plan …
The Speaker The Speaker The time is 3:45. You have an hour. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the first strategic priority is local and international business retention and expansion. It is important if we are trying to grow our economy, Mr. Speaker, that we ensure that we support …
Speaker The Speaker people. Ensuring we have a skilled local workforce. If we create 9,000 jobs, those 9,000 jobs should not all go to expatriate workers. We need to ensure that the people of Bermuda are able to take advantage of the opportunities that exist within their economy. We want to ensure that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does anyone with to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The Opposition spokesperson, Opposition Whip, Deputy Leader, I am just resetting this so that you have some time. And you now have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not think I have ever spoken for an hour.
The Speaker The Speaker You do not have to use it all. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker But you are entitled to it. You are entitled to it.
Mr. Jarion Richardson But we will see how we get on because I think that the Honourable Minister provided quite a lot to speak about. He ended his presentation on a particular note relating to immigration. And the reason I am picking it up and starting there is because I do not want …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Well, to his credit he said he started the process. And again, I do not think he and I have to be on the exact same page with a lot of things. But I am looking forward to the continued development in this space. Mr. Speaker, one of the things …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Strategic Priority 1, local and international business Retention and Expansion. I might need the hour now that I am thinking about it. One of the things I do in my profession, Mr. Speaker, is anti-money laundering training. And as anyone who has gone through anti -money laundering training will tell …
Mr. Jarion Richardson I believe this is called interpolating. Interchirpolating [sic]. I am learning it. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Strategic Priority 1, Local and International Business Retention and Expansion. One of the strategic initiatives is to support and enable growth of economic drivers, right? And the Honourable Minister spoke to this international business activity being key. I think none of us are lost on that point. Most specifically, though, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member There you go.
Mr. Jarion Richardson But with that being said, Mr. Speaker, I do . . . again, I see this “online marketplace” — [Inaudible interjections] [Laughter]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Leave it alone. The online marketplace, I think this is something that obviously should have already happened, but . . . and I will speak to that when we get to ERP. Accommodation and food service. We thought we would then move into action items talking about the BTA and …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, just about anybody would like to grab them. But here is the difference. They all have beaches, Mr. Speaker. They all have the things that we thought for some time were quite special about us. So one of the great things about this is making sure that our value …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Not even close. Fair enough. [Laughter]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Well, feel free to correct me. So, two years ago when we were discussing the budget, we said that we were going to have Per-sonal Employment Plans for every able- bodied person on financial assistance. That was two years ago. And now we are talking about executing that same thing …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, the gap is that it is incomplete. I believe the Minister mentioned a checkbox, and there should be a checkbox next to these things. Mr. Speaker, I am very happy to hear about the national certification regime. I think qualifications are key. Certainly I can only speak from …
Mr. Jarion Richardson —at the cost of more than a few people’s . . . people have been arrested for this. I mean, this is our challenge. It is the challenge of our time. And we can actually . . . and this is the funniest part about it, Mr. Speaker. We can …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You might as well try.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, one thing I would like to note is that it is not hard to be a cynic. It is just not rocket science. Anyone can just simply appeal to their baser selves and just be bitter and resentful and throw sticks at anything that is different, new or …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Does any Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Adams. Before I get you started let me just make an adjustment here because we are now down to a 30- …
Mr. Jache Adams Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will say that the last 45 minutes, in my opinion, I heard a lot of identified gaps but I didn’t hear very many solutions. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Jache Adams Oh, I am going to be nice. Because what I am going to do, as I be nice, is to encourage the speakers on the other side of the aisle that before they speak up I would encourage them to come up with some solutions, because what you will recall, …
Mr. Jache Adams And so, Mr. Speaker, I asked myself, what does S&P, the gold standard of rating agencies, have to say regarding where we are and our current state of our economy? Now, Mr. Speaker, I said that I was going to remove the political language, and I think I deserve some …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You just did. [Laughter] Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jache Adams: In fact, my colleague, Anthony Richardson, wanted me to say that S&P said that when they downgraded the OBA’s performance they said they did it because of the OBA’s continuing weak economic performance and financial performance. But I told …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member So you are lying.
Mr. Jache Adams So we are not even going to go there, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Mr. Jache Adams Instead, Mr. Speaker, today I will hold back from the political language and simply remind those listening that just a few weeks ago S&P reaffirmed Bermuda’s A -plus credit rating. And they said the ratings reflect Bermuda’s strong institutional framework, prosperous economy —and listen to this, Mr. Speaker —prudent policymaking. …
Mr. Jache Adams So, Madam Acting Speaker, entrepreneurship means different things to different people. And for me it symbolises independence, self -reliance, the understanding that we are masters of our fate, and indeed, captains of our soul. [Laughter]
Mr. Jache Adams When I think of entrepreneurs, I think of the persons who do not have time to complain because they are busy making the products. They are making the deliveries. They are creating a marketing strategy. They are managing the books. They are paying the bills. They are managing staff and …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Adams. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to the motion? MP Dunkley, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. I thought the Government Members would be jumping to their feet to support the Honourable Minister— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Just continue. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Madam Acting Speaker, before I get into the main context of what I wish to speak about tonight on this Take Note Motion about the Economic Development Strategy, I just want to refer back briefly to comments that the Honourable Member who …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Workers. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Workers. Workers. And that is a significant number because of that a small percentage could be Bermudians because we do not have that many Bermudians unemployed, that large number unemployed. But one area to tap into and it was hardly mentioned in this strategy at …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm. Well said, Mike. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And so I lay those five obstacles out which can be opportunities because I am a Bermudian. I wear this pin every day when I put on a jacket and every day when I come to the House. And when Bermudians love …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Dunkley. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to the motion? I see MP Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. Madam Acting Speaker, I will continue with this debate in the spirit of the previous speaker. I was very appreciative being that we have had two speakers from the Opposition, I would deem it as the good cop/bad cop scenario where my good Brother …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan But I just want to say that in this roadmap it is important, and I have noticed what the Honourable Minister responsible for [Economy and] Labour is doing. And every speaker thus far has touched on emigration in some form. And I would touch on it in a ver y …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan But I want to say this. A couple of weeks ago I had a Minister who was at a sis-ter station there doing a broadcast. And I saw him and I said, You need to come in here for a second. I just need five minutes of your time. And …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Oh yes. And maybe if Bermuda only needs, you know, “X” thousand—not mil-lions, “X” thousand—people to make it work in January, February, March, October, November [and] December, maybe we will start figuring out . . . and that is where we are working. And I am not talking about things …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan But the fact is that I am getting old, and I lost my spot. [Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan But you know, that is okay. Because to get a robust year you need to work on the months of the year and know the people who it appeals to. And what are we doing in that space? You know, we were criticised, the Progressive Labour Party, of having no …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan No, it is the story of our lives. My mother was upset when she saw her baby coming through Town Cut from White Hill because she left him home with her momma, and her daddy was tired of me crying and he says, Come with me. And he took me …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I am here to say that this is what this strategy is tying in. It is showing people the relevance of what an economic plan means to them. And yes, there are people in our midst who have great pain. This recession of 2008 and this pandemic and a dispassionate …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, MP Swan. Thank you. Does anyone else wish to speak to the motion? The Chair recognises MP Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. I was not quite sure where I was going to land with this. But what I can say is that we have a 60- page plan that we seek to implement in hopes that we will be able to relieve the challenges that we …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It has been declining. So, this is a challenge that governments after governments still have not gotten to the root of how we actually fix this. Now there are solutions on the table. We know that. And I saw in one of the particular articles where we are going to …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It is not a stretch. The cost of living continues to rise and we have not gotten control of it. We have not gotten control of it. There are oppor-tunities that we have in this country to help reduce the cost of living. The approach to it is not reducing …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Tell us again.
Mr. L . Craig C annonier I am not go ing to tell y ou again because if y ou do not l isten the first t ime . . . the Honourabl e Member was lookin g for solutions a nd he is getting them, aski ng for . . . the solutions h ave …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Tell your public again, Craig. Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: They have been put out there.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Tell the public your solutions.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The solution is . . . I will tell you what the solution is. Having our Ministers not mislead people when they have meetings. We can start there. If you want to interpolate, we can start there. The solutions need to be based on real information. And that is what …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier “ Everybody has got a plan until they get punched . . . .” And we as a country have been punched with the recession, COVID -19, emigration, cost of living, you [can] go on and on and on. And the challenge we have is, how are we going to …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, the prices are being . . . we are being raped by prices when we can get half the price from many other countries. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Shipping costs as well, my friend. If we want empowerment, then we got to be willing to address the issue and make it happen. As a Government that talks about they want to empower Black people and the likes, then let’s do it! What empower-ment do we have? What do …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, so here we go. So we are misleading. Right? The truth. Right? So my intention is not to be the bad cop here but to talk about some realities. That is all I am talking about. Realities! So the question becomes, if it is going to take a while …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker There is a point of order. Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Walter H. Roban: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. Presumably he is referring to the LED bulbs that were promised. They are being distributed now. They are on Island. They are being distributed. The Honourable Member was …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you very much. At least he answered. We got an answer! We actually got an answer. I must say, Well done! I look forward to having my lightbulbs that are going to save me on my [electric] bill, because that is important. The five steps in approach here and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Were they? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Oh, yeah, they were on the table back then! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah —blanket no. Unbelievable what we are dealing with. And that is why we are in the state that we are in. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Blinded, smoke all around …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Keep it to yourself, Craig. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Keep quiet.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Keep quiet. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Listen. Listen. I do not get up every time. I do not. But you can rest assured if I do get up, I am going to hold you accountable. And we need to fix this situation. So, to the Minister , I am going …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Cannonier. Does anyone else wish to speak? The Chair recognises MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. A few speakers ago, we heard about good cops and bad cops. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman So, I do not know if I am going to be a good cop or a bad cop. If I say something nice —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member A hybrid?
Mr. Scott Pearman —about Minister Hayward, am I a good cop or a bad cop? Do I do more disservice to him as an Opposition Member that might praise his ideas? Bermuda House of Assembly Will that contaminate him with his own party, or will that help? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman Because what we are actually saying tonight —and I propose to say —is that there are some good ideas in this plan. They are not all good and there are some gaps, like the Honourable Deputy Leader for the Opposition said earlier. But there are some good ideas in this …
Mr. Scott Pearman —and we want to see Bermuda succeed. And I notice that a Cabinet Minister is chuckling by the statement I just made to this Honourable House when I say that we put country before party. That is true, and it is known to be true. So do not chuckle. Madam …
Mr. Scott Pearman And my honourable colleague, MP Cannonier, the former Premier, was speaking earlier about his frustration when someone is in the water drowning and we have a committee to discuss whether a rope is thrown or someone gets into the water or what happens, and there is a committee discussing it …
Mr. Scott Pearman Because if I take $1 out of my pocket, Mr. Speaker, and I pay to you that $1 and you take that same $1 and you pay it to the Deputy Leader and the Deputy Leader takes that same $1 and pays it to someone else and eventually it goes …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Right.
Mr. Scott Pearman So the answer is we need to increase the flow of foreign capital. And I notice that the substantive Minister has returned. If he had been here a little bit earlier he would have heard some compliments that I actually paid him. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman Excellent, excellent. Well, I am glad. So we have some interpolating, but we will see. Second solution, and again, it is not novel, it is not rocket science. It has been said by many on my side and some on that side. We need to amend immigration laws and we …
Mr. Scott Pearman What we need to see is . . . we do not need another committee looking at what the bipar-tisanship committee already looked at and established which built upon the committee chaired by William Madeiros. We have reports. We have a nonpolitical committee whic h gave a report to a …
Mr. Scott Pearman And they came up with a series of proposals of four buckets of legal changes. Only one of those four buckets has been implemented. It was im-plemented June, either two or three years ago. I might Bermuda House of Assembly have lost a year with COVID -19. The other three …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Coming from where?
Mr. Scott Pearman The Bermudian public would like to think that if all that is between us is the number of new workers that we need to get into Bermuda that we could reach a consensus decision and get the job done together. Sometimes we need to get out of our own way. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Which ones?
Mr. Scott Pearman And I do not want it to . . . you see? This is the problem. The Honourable Minister asks which ones , challenging me, as if what I have just said is a falsehood. It is not a falsehood; it is true. I do not want it to be …
Mr. Scott Pearman Okay? And I cannot speak as to who they are and I am not making this up and I am not fearmongering. I am identifying— [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman So the Honourable Deputy Premier of the PLP just asked me, Why raise it? Why raise it? Because you have to diagnose the problem. You have to recognise the illness and you have to recognise there is an illness before you can start to cure it. And the interpolation goes …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am being told equally, in equal numbers (I am), You are (they are saying), and then I get, Who said that? Well, he said that just now, okay? [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman There we are. Number three . . . I am glad that they are distracting me from my themes. We need responsible 1642 30 June 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly spending. We are not approaching our spending as a Government responsibly. We no longer have the luxury …
Mr. Scott Pearman If you look around now — [Crosstalk and laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman —in Bermuda– [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, I am not punching you in the face, Minister , I promise! But if you look around now in Bermuda, it does feel like we have been punched in the face. So let us look at the importance of the plan, and let us offer what I believe to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And a lawyer.
Mr. Scott Pearman —and a lawyer! What is not to love? Politician and lawyer. We need less talk and more action—we need delivery. And this means we need to move away from smooth talkers and we need to move towards those who in fact roll up their sleeves and get things done. I …
Mr. Scott Pearman Again, interpolations. Maybe they are just talking about me. But I think it might be something we should all contemplate a little bit. Let us go back to where I started. I think we cannot keep saying on the one hand the economy is doing fine, and on the other …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am hearing from behind me that no one is saying everything is fine. I mean, I did quote verbatim a statement earlier that the economy was “roBermuda House of Assembly bust and resilient.” I quoted earlier that all economic indicators are good. I quoted earlier that we are excellent …
Mr. Scott Pearman —at the same time as . . . Well, if they can be true at the same time, no doubt people who speak after me will explain how. But I think that that is trying to have it both ways. In order to have confidence in their politicians, the people …
Mr. Scott Pearman And if you cannot . . . and I hear MP Anthony Richardson from behind me saying speak for yourself. Well, if the voters of his constituency have trust in him, we will see him next time. If you cannot diagnose the problem— [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman —then how can you cure it? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman We hear from the Minister how we are trending in the right direction. Well a trend is only relevant from where you start the trend. And it is not really helpful to say we are trending in the right direction if we are comparing it to a year ago and …
Mr. Scott Pearman You need to . . . well, I mean, let us look at this report. I mean there are some things in this report that are just astounding. On page 7 of the report, for example . . . look, you know . . . who was it? I think …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Jason Hayward: The Member is misleading the House. The statistics show that we have an increase in companies. He cannot come back and say, Well, that is a lie . That is what the data actually suggests. It is also unfair and …
Mr. Scott Pearman May I continue, Mr. Speaker ?
The Speaker The Speaker Just take note his point.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, point noted. Okay, let me try and be more apt with page 9. So let us compare the trend before COVID -19 and after, shall we? Page 9, top of the page. Look at air arrivals — 2019 air arrivals: 269,478 — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman Sorry, I think the Minister for Economy and Labour just said that air arrivals is not the economy. I would have thought that air arrivals is a pretty darn important economic indicator for the Bermudian economy. And if it is trending downwards, you get my point about not trying to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. MP Famous, I see you on your feet. You have your 30 minutes on the clock. Mr. Christopher Famous: I will not be that long, Mr. Speaker . Good evening— 1644 30 June 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Good evening.
Mr. Christopher Famous —colleagues and the listening public. The quote is, as I heard it, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. Well, here comes the punch in the face. [Laughter and crosstalk ]
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I heard several comments about You gotta do something about the cost of living. You gotta do something about the cost of living . Then I am sitting here scanning the world news and every country has a cost -of-living crisis. Even the country that we have to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Exchequer.
Mr. Christopher Famous The Exchequer said, Well, if you got problems with the bank, give us a call and we will work with the banks to try to save people from, you know, not having to make payments for six months . That does not sound like a robust economy. It sounds like …
The Speaker The Speaker Let the conversation flow this way. [Crosstalk]
Mr. Christopher Famous Yea, though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no— [Crosstalk]
Mr. Christopher Famous Anyway, Mr. Speaker, happy Sabbath, Mr. Speaker . The sun has gone down. Happy Sabbath, MP Caines. Mr. Speaker — [Crosstalk]
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, one of the things, the key things . . . let us stop beating around the bush. One of the key things in this plan is increasing the population on this Island because of our ageing population, because of this, that and the other. The thing that differentiates …
Mr. Christopher Famous Four hundred, exactly. We cannot even . . . well, I will not say the exact words, but . . . the point is, Mr. Speaker . . . Mr. Speaker, the point is we have to increase housing which is in the plan. Whether it be some sort of …
Mr. Christopher Famous That is not what I said. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous No, that is not what I said. We can increase it. My point is, Mr. Speaker, in support of the Minister, in support of the Government , we have to be pragmatic. We cannot just have rose- coloured glasses and say everything is fine . No! Everything is not fine. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member . . . Minister Campbell? Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I am glad you are back because it was becoming extremely difficult to say Madam Acting Speaker or, you know, Mr. Acting Speaker — [Crosstalk] Hon. Vance …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Jamahl Simmons, you have the floor.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In recent months, I have been talking to my wife and she sa id to me, You know, you are getting old, cantankerous and argumentative. And I said, Well, sweetie, I am getting old, argumentative and cantankerous because it comes from being protective and wanting to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Not anymore.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons No, never was. But that’s okay. [Laughter]
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Mr. Speaker, when I had the privilege of seeing the numbers for Carnival over the years, it was one of the fastest growing tourism events in terms of bringing in tourists, in terms of the diversity of tourists that we were looking to get. If you went aroun d to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member . . . MP Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, sir. Good evening, Mr. Speaker, again. I know it is kind of late —
Mr. Anthony Richardson —so I will do my best, Mr. Speaker . But I am going to reflect on some of the comments I made earlier (to be honest ) just to remind us all and myself at the same time that prior planning pre-vents poor performance. And again, we are back to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It doesn’t matter.
Mr. Anthony Richardson I wouldn’t say it does not matter . But it is not as if a buoyant economy will not have people that still need assistance and protection whether they be old, young or otherwise. And so . . . I know what I can say. It is nonsense for people …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Richardson. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I must say there have been quite a few contributions made today on this very weighty topic , this motion that has been brought forth by the Honourable Min-ister for Economy and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What award did you get yesterday? Tell us. Tell us! Hon. Walter H. Roban: I do not need to repea t my successes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Don’t get distracted by . . . It is on his record by the— Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker , I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Nonsense! Hon. Walter H. Roban: Nonsense. That is a classic Opposition doom- and-gloom comment and there are so many areas that I could go on to, which are not part of my brief today , which would say otherwise. N ot only would I say it . . . I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy [Premier]. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It has been a long debate so I will not be very long. I just have a few contributions to make, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: And I am going to read —his name is , as I said, Bruce Robert Scott , The Concept of National Economic Strategy . He goes on to say, “National economic strategy . . . comprises a vision of a desired future state …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of information? Hon. Walter H. Roban: If the Minister will— Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, that is fine. POINT OF INFORMATION Hon. Walter H. Roban: Our blue economy strategy is not relying on any upfront funding thus far from the Government at all . It is a joint …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Opposition Leader? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Minister, t hat is very useful . And so my question would be, What type of timeline does the Minister have in place to have the Marine Development Act embodied and implemented? A nd again, the …
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair. Speak to the Chair. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I am speaking to the Chair, Mr. Speaker . [Laughter and crosstalk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker , priority number two: business attraction and investment promotion. Mr. Speaker , you know , we are a blue-chip jurisdiction . And I agree with the M inister wholeheartedly . I have been in the financial service industry for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Member which make a contribution at this time ? Mr. P remier , you are smiling. Looks like you would like your 30 minutes . Hon. E. David Burt: I would, Mr. Speaker, if you do not mind .
The Speaker The Speaker It does not have to be all 30. Hon. E. David Burt: I can give you no promises there
Mr. Speaker . The Speaker All right. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, thank you. We have heard a lot of good things today during this debate and as usual we have heard a little bit of foolishness as well . But I am going to ensure that those who may be listening at home, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Because if you are not focused on the Economic Development Strategy , then you could find yourself distracted.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: We are going to remain focused on what is here and delivering what is here. And so the commentary we hear about , Oh, no specifics and no this and no that , Mr. Speaker, they had 13 lines —13 bullet points in their platform. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: —and we are an attractive destination. People are looking at what we are doing, what the Deputy Leader is doing , what we are doing over at the Ministry of Finance, the various innovative ways in which we are making sure that we lead the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. [Desk thumping] Hon. E. David Burt: That, Mr. Speaker , is what we are seeing in this country right now . And that is why the strategy is important because we must continue to de-liver on it . Now I am not going to touch on entrepreneurship and small …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: That is our record, Mr. Speaker , and that is the reason why we see the growth in entrepreneurship. On the matters of the continued economic recovery plan execution, we will continue down those roads . And the Honou rable Deputy Leader spoke to a …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: And we will continue to do that . So whether or not those are matters related to education reform, whether or not those are matters which the Honourable Minister of Education will address the next time we are in this Honourable place , about increasing …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And they walked away from it. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, that i s right . They stopped attending.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is right. Hon. E. David Burt: They stopped attending —wanted to come back and critici se. But the fact is —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Didn’t get it done. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, they did not get it done. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , we have done things . We have fixed mixed status families . We have established PRC s. We have implemented economic investment certificates and we have …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: And guess what , Mr. Speaker ? There will not be blockading of Parliament when it happens because we will go to the people first . We will not try and sneak it in a day after we lose a by -election. We will do …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier . Minister? Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I will be brief in my final remarks as a lot has been said. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jason Hayward: But, Mr. Speaker , I certainly want to take this opportunity to tha nk …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Jason Hayward: “Investment of capital is [crucial] to grow Bermuda’s economic assets. Attracting investment across multiple sectors creates a more diverse economy which in turn increases economic resilience and employment opportunities . It is imperative that an environment is created whereby Bermuda is competitive and attractive for …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: I am not making it up that youth unemployment is down and youth employment is up. I am not making it up that payroll tax receipts indicate that we have more workers working now than a year ago. Hon. E. David Burt: To be precise, 1,812. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you, Minister . Members, the motion that was just completed, “BE IT RESOLVED that this Honourable House supports the ‘Economic Development Strategy Bermuda 2023 – 2027 .’” With the debate having been completed, are Members in favou r? Ayes.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any opposed?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Unanimous.
The Speaker The Speaker It sounds quiet on that end. Hon. E. David Burt: There were no nays.
The Speaker The Speaker And so there is no need for names . It was clearly supported by the H ouse . [Motion carried: The Economic Development Strategy Bermuda 2023 – 2027 was considered by the House and approved.]
The Speaker The Speaker This now takes us to the need to do the third reading for the earlier matter that was done. Minister , would you like to do you third reading? SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. 1668 30 June 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Continue, Minister . [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING CHILD DAY CARE ALLOWANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2023 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker , I move that the Bill be now …
The Speaker The Speaker And the Bill has been read a third time by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Child Day Care Allowance Amendment Act 20 23 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Friday the 14 th of July . I will be remiss if I did not . . . I have advised his Honou rable Speaker …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member object to the motion that the Premier just made ? There are no objections; there is no one rising. So, we now stand adjourned! [Gavel] [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker The House is now adjourned until the next sitting. We thank you for your participation today . It went longer than expected , but it was a full debate, so we appreciate M embers ’ participation. Enjoy your weekend, Members , and we will see you at the next sitting. …
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