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Senate Session 2022/2023 44 speeches

March 27, 2023

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Session Summary

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The Senate approved several bills that will affect fees and costs for Bermuda residents and businesses. The most significant change allows first-time homebuyers to avoid stamp duty on the first $1 million of their property purchase, up from the previous $750,000 limit. The Senate also passed increases to various government fees that haven't been updated in years, and approved reduced electricity regulatory fees which should provide small savings on power bills. A heated debate occurred over gaming legislation, with opposition senators raising concerns about government interference with the Gaming Commission.

Chamber Senate
Date Mar 27, 2023
Session 2022/2023
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Speakers 5
Speeches 44

Key Topics

Changes to stamp duty calculations for first-time homebuyers and mortgage transfersFee increases for government services including company registration and real estate broker penaltiesUpdates to regulatory authority fees for telecommunications and electricity sectorsNew fee structure for Bermuda's ship registry servicesGaming legislation amendments to make the Minister of Finance responsible for gaming oversight

Bills & Motions

Stamp Duties Amendment (No. 2) Act 2023 - passed third reading and became law
Miscellaneous Fees and Penalties Act 2023 - passed third reading and became law
Gaming Amendment Act 2023 - passed second reading (debate ongoing)
Vacation Rentals (Application and Registration) Fees Act 2023 - first reading only
Fairmont Southampton Hotel Act 2023 - first reading only
Electronic Communications and Electricity Regulatory Authority Fees Regulations - approved
Merchant Shipping Fees Regulations 2023 - approved

Notable Moments

Opposition Senator De Couto questioned why wealthy first-time homebuyers should receive any stamp duty benefits, suggesting a more progressive approach
Sharp exchanges occurred during the gaming debate, with multiple points of order raised when Senator De Couto alleged government interference with Gaming Commission leadership
The Finance Secretary was acknowledged as a visitor to the Senate during proceedings

Debate Transcript

44 speeches from 5 speakers
Dr. Emily Dill. Sen. Lindsay Simmons Sorry, Madam President. I have another one. The President: I beg your pardon, Senator Simmons. You did say you had a second one, a second motion. So please carry on. DRAFT REGULATIONS THE ELECTRICITY (REGULATORY AUTHORITY FEES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2023 Sen. Lindsay Simmons: Thank you, Madam President. Madam President, I …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you. Thank you, Madam President. Madam President, I hereby present for the consideration of Senate the draft Regulations entitled the Merchant Shipping (Fees) Regulations 2023, proposed to be made by the Minister responsible for maritime ad-ministrat ion under the provisions of section 250 of the Merchant Shipping Act 2002. …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. And thank you, Senator, for that presentation. Overall , we in the Opposition do support this. We know that one of the issues with the prior benefits provided was that we felt that the $750,000 was too low and would mean many first -time homeowners would …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. The Opposition has no concerns about this Bill ,
Madam President. The President Thank you, Senator. Senator Hodgson, it is back to you then. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam President. With the support of my colleagues, I would like to move that the Bill entitled the Miscellaneous Fees and Penalties Act 2023 be now read a second time. The President: Is there …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Madam President, I move that the Senate do now take into consideration the draft Regulations entitled the Merchant Shipping (Fees) Regulations 2023. The President: Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. DRAFT REGULATIONS MERCHANT SHIPPING (FEES) REGULATIONS 2023
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Madam President, the purpose of the Regulations today is to revoke the Merchant Shipping (Fees ) Regulations 2012 and implement a new set of Regulations to be known as the Mer-chant Shipping (Fees) Regulations 2023. The new Regulations will increase the fees for certain service s provided by the Bermuda …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. We support this. It is really important that this sector is able to maintain its high international standards and operate efficiently. You know, our general position is that we welcome anything that brings efficiency, effectiveness and a modern approach to the government and its operations. I …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. M adam President, I move that the said draft Regulations be approved and that the following mes-sage be sent to Her Excellency the Governor: May it please Your Excellency: The Senate, having had under consideration the draft Regulations entitled the Merchant Shipping (Fees) Regulations 2023 proposed …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you. The President: Is there any objection to the message being sent to the Governor? Hearing none, then the message will be sent. [Motion carried: The Merchant Shipping (Fees) Regulations 2023 were approved.] The President: Thank you, Senator Dill, and thank you, all Sen ators. Moving on to the …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. Of course, we all know that the OBA is in support of our developing this gaming industry to diversify and bring growth to the economy as it w as the OBA that brought this forward, and it was the OBA that organised and helped facilitate the …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Let me just pause, Madam President, to make sure everybody is okay. [Pause] The President: Yes. Plea se. She is all right. Thank you.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. This Government has a track record of avoiding accountability, of trying to remove institutions or processes or bodies that are supposed to provide ultimate viewpoints and advice, or flat -out ignoring them, B ermuda Senate or in many cases, Madam President, just not following the processes …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Yes, ma’am. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT SENATE VISITOR The President: I would just like to acknowledge the presence of the Finance Secretary, Ms. Cheryl Lister. Welcome to you. Carry on, Senator De Couto. [Gaming Amendment Act 2023, second reading debate, continuing]
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. The reality is the Government has not interfered with the BMA in the way that it has with the Gaming Commission multiple times. The Government has not shopped and changed the BMA board like it has the Gaming Commission. The BMA has a long history of …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto —not twice, Madam President, [but] three times. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Point of order. The President: Point of order, Senator. POINT OF ORDER Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Madam President, the Senator is speaking on matters that he does not even know are correct. You heard him start with, …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Madam President, I quote the Royal G azette articles from that t ime. Sen. th e Hon. O wen D arrell: Madam President, point of order. The P resident: M inister D arrell. POINT O F ORDER Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: He is coming with an opinion from his …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Madam President, I stand by the statements that Minister Simmons did try to seek the resignation of Gaming Commission Chairman Alan Dunch not once, not twice, but three times . And I state that as a fact. Sen. th e Hon. O wen D arrell: Mada m President, p oint …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto A nd if t he Government thinks t hat it i s not a fact — Sen. the Hon. O wen Darrell: Point of order, Madam President . The P resident: M inister D arrell, w hat is it ? POINT O F ORDER Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: If …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Madam President, I bring these facts, which anyone listening can then search in the newspaper. And of cours e I would have thought that if the Gov ernment thought that those facts were incorrect, they would have asked for the newspaper to correct them in writing, which has not happened. …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Yes, Madam President. Like I said, I have researched public s ources that are out there in the public but have not been corrected in writing by the Government. It is well known. Thes e are known fac ts. And it is my view that these are correct. So in …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Yes. I will move on from that point, which is that the Government has a history of interfering with this commiss ion. Now in 2017, Madam President, as we recollect, they changed the Regulations or the laws to allow them to express ly direct the commission. Now I was comparing …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Point of order. The President: Senator Dill, what is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Se n. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill: Madam President, Madam President. This individual is imputing improper motive and intent, and he needs to stop this line of conversation. The President: Senator …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I think I have made my argument as to why the comparisons to the BMA are in fact not very useful in understanding how gaming is operating on this Island. So I think I will leave it at that, Madam President. The Opposition has great concerns …
Sen. Dr. Dougla s De Couto Point of order, Madam President. We are not making excuses for anything. In fact, we are questioning the Government’s excuses. Thank you, Madam President. The President: That was not a point of order, Senator De Couto. Sen. the Hon. Owen Da rrell: Madam President, that is what I keep hearing. …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of order, Madam President. Is the Minister implying — The President: Senator De Couto, please wait until I acknowledge you.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto My apologies. The President: What is you r point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Is the Minister implying that those facts were incorrect? Does he deny those three facts? Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Madam President, as I said before, first of all that is not a point of order. And second of all, he brought no facts. So I will continue, Madam President. …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I would like to acknowledge that this is a difficult topic. There are some people who are concerned about the housing availability in Bermuda and what Airbnbs do for that. But, Madam President, if we look around at the country right now, we are down, we …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. I would like to take this opportunity to commend the Junior Minister on the presentation of this Bill and the Government in terms of the fact that as we listen to the arguments that have been raised in asking about the timing, we all have to …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of order. Point of order, Madam President. The President: Senator De Couto, what is your point of order?
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto What is this factual information regarding excessive profits that the Senator is referring to? The President: Senator De Couto, that is not a point of order. Minister Darrell, carry on. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: I can tell you what is not a fact . Very shortly we are going …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. First off, I want to reiterate the One Bermuda Alliance’s support for the success of this hotel project which, despite what some people would have said a year ago, has always been our message as this is a Bermuda Senate critical component for our economy, for …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT SENATE VISITORS The President: Before you do, can I just acknowledge the presence in the Gallery of the Minister of Tourism, Vance Campbell, and his Permanent Secretary, Mr. Lamb. Welcome, gentlemen. Carry on. [Fairmont Southampton Hotel Act 2023, second reading debate, continuing]
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. So let me just recap the point I am trying to make here with some examples. I am explaining why we in the Opposition support providing this financial benefit to the developer, Gencom, through the concept of a rebate versus an upfront relief because it provides …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Excuse me, Madam President. I would appreciate it if the Senator would— The President: Minister Darrell.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Point of order. Point of order. The President: Senator Dill, what is your point of order?
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill The point of order is that the Senator appears to almost be launching a personal attack against the Senator. And I find that inappropriate in these Chambers. The President: That is not a point of order. Carry on.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto So, Madam President, what I am saying is that these things I am about to say are not just my opinion. They have been shared with me by others. And they are also available in the public domain. And that is the fact . . . that is the view …
Madam President. The President Thank you, Senator De Couto. Would any other Senator care to speak on this Bill? Senator John Wight, you have the floor. Sen. John Wight: Thank you, Madam President. I think every Bermudian wants to see the Fairmont Southampton reopened for so many reasons, as expressed by others before me. …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. I certainly am extremely optimistic, if not excited, about, for the second time in a lifetime, seeing the opening of the Fairmont Southampton hotel. As I shared previously in these Chambers, I can remember as a very, very young person my older brother and the excitement …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Yes. The President: You have the floor.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. I would just like to first of all take the opportunity to extend congratulations to the Bermuda Parliamentary Prayer [Breakfast] group who on yesterday afternoon presented a luncheon where they celebrated four individuals in our community who have made a t remendous impact for parliamentarians. They …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. Thank y ou. I just wanted to certainly reflect also listening to the speeches of my Senate colleagues and also being deeply grieved in my spirit this weekend regarding the murder that took place in Somerset, but more importantly, the impact that this altercation that took …
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