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Senate Session 2022/2023 82 speeches

March 23, 2023

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Session Summary

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The Senate met to review the Ministry of Health's budget for 2023/24, with Junior Minister of Finance Senator Arianna Hodgson presenting details on $10.3 million in spending. The budget represents a 35% decrease from the previous year, mainly due to ending COVID-19 emergency measures. Much of the discussion focused on progress toward Universal Health Coverage, including establishing a program management office and stakeholder working groups. The session also covered the Bermuda Health Council's work regulating healthcare facilities and professionals, plus various community health programs.

Chamber Senate
Date Mar 23, 2023
Session 2022/2023
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Speakers 5
Speeches 82

Key Topics

Budget presentation for Ministry of Health - reviewing $10.3 million in spending for 2023/24Universal Health Coverage (UHC) implementation and planning progressCOVID-19 transition from emergency response back to regular health servicesBermuda Health Council's regulatory work and achievementsHealth promotion programs and community wellness initiatives

Bills & Motions

Motion to resolve into Committee of the Whole for consideration of the Appropriation Act 2023 - approved
Review of Ministry of Health budget estimates (Head 21 and Head 22) - presented for committee consideration
Motion to defer consideration of previous meeting minutes - approved

Notable Moments

Six kidney transplants were completed this year - a record high that will save the health system over $4 million
Bermuda administered over 200,000 COVID-19 vaccinations with 75% of the population receiving two doses
The budget includes $3 million for overseas medical care for uninsured residents through the Lady Cubitt Compassionate Association

Debate Transcript

82 speeches from 5 speakers
The Chairman Chairman Good morning, Senators. Senators, we are now in Committee of the whole for further consideration of the Appropriation Act 2023, together with Estimates of Revenue and Ex-penditure for the year 2023/24. The Ministry under con-sideration is Health. The heads for debate under this Ministry are Head 21 at page 149; …
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed. MINISTRY OF HEALTH HEAD 21 —MINISTRY OF HEALTH HEADQUARTERS Sen. Arianna Hodgson: The Ministry of Health Headquarters budget is found on pages 149 to 153 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure. Madam Chair-man, I am here today to present the budget for the Ministry of Health, Head …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Please proceed to the next head. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. HEAD 22 —DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH Sen. Arianna Hodgson: It gives me pleasure to present the budget for Head 22, the Department of Health, found on pages B -154 through B -164 of the Budget Book. …
The Chairman Chairman Senator Hodgson, could I just interrupt just to acknowledge that the Chief Strategy Officer of the Department of Health, Aideen Ratteray Pryse, has joined us. Welcome. [Committee of Supply, continuing] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. (Let me back up.) The 2023/24 budget estimate for Sexual and Reproductive Health, …
The Chairman Chairman Senator, just a time check. You have about 45 minutes remaining. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am sure we will have some time for questions. Central Laboratory Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 budget estimates for the Health Department’s Central Laboratory section, 2204, are listed as …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator. We have until 12:04. Would any Senator wish to speak on these heads? Senator Tucker. Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you, Madam Chairman. And also thank you to the Junior Minister for a very comprehensive and informative brief this morning. Before I start asking my questions, I w …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Senator Wight. Sen. John Wight: Thank you, Madam Chairman. When looking at the Health Ministry’s budget for the forthcoming year, in fact every Ministry that we review, we always discuss the budget for the coming year versus the budget for the past year. What I often like to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Wight. Would any other Senator —I see Senator De Couto, I think.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam Chairman. I did want to follow up on the questions of staffing. It is probably related. At page B -157, Head 22, I see that the total number of budgeted staff, full -time equivalents, is 290 which although only plus -five, or 2 per cent, from the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Would any other Senator care to speak to these heads? Senator Hodgson, are you in a position to address any of the questions posed? Sen. Arianna Hodgson: I can answer as the information is received. Just to respond to Senator Wight’s questions concerning the hospital, I do want …
The Chairman Chairman Senator Tucker. Sen. Robin Tucker: May I just ask a follow -up question?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Sen. Robin Tucker: Okay. So the follow -up question is as it relates to the funded and unfunded positions. I would like to know, especially given the fact that as was mentioned in the brief there have been some resource issues in various areas, so I would like to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Tucker. Senator Hodgson. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I guess along that same vein I will touch specifically on the question Senator Tucker just asked. But 356 23 March 2023 Official Hansard Report B ermuda Senate regarding the Mangrove Bay Clinic, there is recruitment, obviously, …
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed. Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you. Thank you to the Junior Minister for providing that information. I guess relatedly, my question comes as it relates to rotating staff, because then does that not leave . . . if she can sort of let us know what gaps that will …
The Chairman Chairman Senator Hodgson, over to you. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: What I can say as noted in my presentation is that the Ministry is working with the Department of Employee and Organization Develop-ment to best fill the vacancies that currently exist. The reality is that the Mangrove Bay Clinic will not be …
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed. Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you. Thank you to the Junior Minister for answering that question. I guess I should sort of anchor it to an earlier response that was given in terms of the 54 funded but vacant positions, because, again, we have a resource issue in our …
The Chairman Chairman I also see Senator De Couto.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Hi, Madam Chairman. I would actually like to pick up Senator Wight’s question, and I am probably going to recast it in a way that I hope you will find permissible for this debate. I know that we have selected some heads, but I am sure that anything that is …
Madam Chairman. The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator De Couto. Any other? Senator Hodgson, over to you. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: What I will say, Madam Chairman, is that generally speaking we can all appr eciate that the Ministry was over budget due to COVID -19 expenses. I will not go any further than that. There …
The Chairman Chairman Senator Wight. Sen. John Wight: Just a follow -up to my question before about the subsidies, I am just hearing the Junior Minister refer to COVID -19. The $11 million that I referred to as being a reduction in the forthcoming year’s subsidy relative to last year’s current was both …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Wight . B ermuda Senate [Pause] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: To respond to Senator Wight’s question about the revised estimate of $123 million and the difference, it is worth noting that the $123 million actually includes the supplementary $15 million of additional funding that was provided to satisfy …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Se n. Robin Tucker: Thank you. So this question comes from page B- 150, the subjective analysis of current account estimates, Pro-fessional Services. So the 2023/24 budget estimate is $3,401,000, representing a $4,095,000 decrease from the original budget amount for 2022/23. Before getting to the core of my question, …
The Chairman Chairman Senator Hodgson, we have about eight minutes remaining. [ Pause] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Madam Chairman, there were some further questions from Senator Tucker re-garding the Professional Services line item. And the Professional Services line item essentially covers the consultants. It will fund the universal health coverage expenses. And if you …
The Chairman Chairman I see Senator Tucker. There are about five minutes. Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Thank you to the Junior Minister for that answer. Just on the back of that, I thank her for the information provided that is more current. But again, it is the trend of low …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Senator Tucker. Sen. Robin Tucker: I just want to say thank you to the Junior Minister for her response. And I just want to point out that when she does have a look, if she can look back at prior years because the question will probably come up again. …
The Chairman Chairman Absolutely, Senator Tucker. Two minutes. Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you. I just want to sort of get a little follow -up as it relates to the INCB, just based on the Junior Minister’s response just a second ago. Because I noted that, again from the performance measures, the 2023/24 book …
The Chairman Chairman And w e have one minute remaining. It is 12:03 by the clock that I am using. And so there are 60 seconds remaining. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Senator Hodgson. [Pause] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Madam Chairman, in the interest of time I will endeavour to provide those responses at a later date. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Senator Tucker and my other colleagues who have been able to . . . in today’s debate.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Hodgson, for that indication. And the time for debate having now passed, Senator, would you like to move these heads? Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Yes, Madam Chairman. I move that Heads 21 and 22 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Is there any objection? No objection. These heads are so moved. [Motion carried: Ministry of Health Heads 21 and 22 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Rev-enue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24.]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Hodgson. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman For the listening audience, I will now get up and hand over the seat to my Senate colleague, Senator John Wight, who will deal with the Committee debates for the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport. [Sen. John Wight, Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman We can now start with the Ministry under consideration, being the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport. We are looking to have presented Head 71 found on page B -238 regarding the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport Headquarters; and Head 20 on page B-241 regarding Youth, Sport and Recreation. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, 12:06 is the correct time. So we will go until 12:30 and then recess until two o’clock. The number of hours allocated to these heads is two. The Senator or in this case the Minister in charge is Minister Darrell. So, Minister, how would you wish to proceed? …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Please proceed. MINISTRY OF YOUTH, CULTURE AND SPORT Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to present the financial year 2023/24 estimates of revenue and expenditure for the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport, which can be found starting on page B-237 of the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Yes, for the benefit of Ministers and Senators and the listening audience, it is now 12:30. So we will break and reconvene again at two o’clock to complete the remaining Head 20. Thank you. Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2:00 …
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, listening audience. It is now two o’clock. We are resuming the Ministry of Youth, Sport and Recreation. Minister Darrell before the lunch break had complet ed Head 71 on the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport Headquarters and will now start Head 20 on page B -241 relating …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN SENATE VISITORS
The Chairman Chairman Before we start speaking on the heads, I just want to recognise that we have in our Chamber the Permanent Secretary for Youth, Culture and Sport, Marva- Jean O’Brien, and the Director as well, Kimberly Bean. Thank you. So at this point, would any Senator wish to speak on these …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, I will just ask. Would you prefer to start answering questions or let the questions continue? [No audible response]
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. Sen. Ben Smith: No problem. I have asked this question for several years now. I do not know where to ask it. The question is, the Government purchased the Sandys 360 facility. It was supposed to be transferred to Sports. It has not been transferred to Sports. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Smith. Minister, over to you. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That was a mouthful, and I expected nothing less from the national swim coach in another capacity. I am sure he has the answers to a lot of these questions already. But I …
The Chairman Chairman Just as a reminder, I think the tennis stadium was one question that he asked, whether we would be adding any tennis tournaments — Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Absolutely. I am getting to that right now, Mr. Chairman. Tennis stadium. So the Senator asked about if [we] have had …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, I will follow you off of the diving board first, and then to the pickleball courts — Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Absolutely. See? Sports matters . Mr. Chairman, I am going to get through these questions. I am so glad that the Senator asked them. And it gives …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, we have about eight minutes left. So, Senator Smith, have all of your questions been answered, or is there a follow -up? Sen. the Hon. Owen Dar rell: No, no. There is more there. There are questions 5, 6, 7. Yes, I am going to get to them all, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. I think we have now only one minute. Senator Smith, do you have any further questions? Or are you satisfied with [the answers]? Sen. Ben Smith: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So two quick questions. The first one would be if the Minister could tell us …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator. Minister, you have 45 seconds. [Laughter and crosstalk ] Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: The audited financials, I said in the brief very clearly that we are currently working with the Auditor General to work through those to get those financials sorted. And I am happy to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. So I think we are now at the stage of completion of two hours. So I will ask the Minister to move these heads. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Heads 71 and 20 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Any objection to moving those heads? Hearing none, these heads are so moved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport, Heads 71 and 20 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2023/24.]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Senators. That completes that Ministry. And now I will ask my colleague, Senator Bell, to assume the Chair for the remaining heads relating to Immigration, Financial As-sistance and Workforce Development. Thank you. [Sen. Kiernan Bell, Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Senators. We are on the home stretch. We are now in the Committee of the whole for further consider ation of the Appropriation Act 2023, together with the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. The Ministry under consideration is [Economy and] Labour. The heads for …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator. HEAD 55 —DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE Sen. Leslie Robinson: Madam Chairman, I will now present the estimates of expenditure and revenue for Head 55, the Department of Financial Assistance, which can be found on pages B- 182 through B -185, as well as pages C -13 and …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry! Oh, I’m sorry. We’ve got one more, don’t we? Sen. Leslie Robinson: Madam Chairman, we’ve got —
The Chairman Chairman Yes. I do apologise. Sen. Leslie Robinson: —one more. I will try to go through it as quickly as possible so that we can have some time for questions.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, sorry. Thank you. Sen. Leslie Robinson: No, that’s fine. HEAD 60 —DEPARTMENT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT Sen. Leslie Robinson: Madam Chairman, I am now going to read the last head, Head 60— Department of Workforce Development, [ found on] pages B -186 through B-[191], and C -19 of the Estimates …
The Chairman Chairman Senator, may I interrupt just briefly just to acknowledge that the Acting Permanent Secretary of Labour, Pandora Glasford, has joined with a colleague . . . whom I am afraid I don’t know the name — [Crosstalk ]
The Chairman Chairman Ms. Malika Cartwright, Direct or of Workforce Development. So, welcome. Thank you for coming today. Sorry, Senator, continue. [Committee of Supply, continuing] Sen. Leslie Robinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. The Department of Workforce Development continues to work with the Occupational Advisory Com-mittee (OAC) and the Industry Assessment Panel (IAP) to …
The Chairman Chairman Senator, just another brief interjection just to welcome Mr . Anil Chatergoon , Ministry Comptroller and Mr. David Banarsee, Acting Director of the Department of Financial Assistance. Welcome. Thank you. [Committee of Supply, continuing] Sen. Leslie Robinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, the Department of Workforce Development continues to …
The Chairman Chairman Senator, just to let you know, there is 25 minutes remaining. Sen. Leslie Robinson: I am going to conclude by just saying that the department remains committed to ensuring that Bermudians are not disadvantaged and that they are [ sufficiently ] prepared to meet the needs of the workforce. To …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN SENATE VISITOR
The Chairman Chairman And I should acknowledge that Dr. Danette Ming, the Chief Immigration Officer, has entered the public Gallery. Welcome. Would any Senator wish to speak on these heads in the time remaining? Thank you. Senator Tucker. [Committee of Supply, continuing] Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you, Madam Chairman. And I thank the …
Madam Chairman . . . I beg your pardon. The Chairman Chairman I am just going to let Senator Robinson know that I actually can’t see her. So i f she does have answers to questions, if she could raise her hand so that we can get them answered in the time remaining. Sen. Leslie Robinson: Yes. Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you, …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. We have until 5:34, so conscious of time. Sen. Leslie Robinson: Yes. Sen. Robin Tucker: Well, I actually only have a couple of questions in the other two heads, so I think that is a good thing. So on to Financial Assistance, Head 55, page B-184. Again, this is …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. And Senator Wight, I see you have a question. Sen. John Wight: T hank you, Madam Chairman. I applaud the succes ses of the Workforce Development. I just have one question though, in the PreBudget Statement, there was a referenc e to the number of jobs at the …
Madam Chairman. The Chairman Chairman Thank y ou, Senator Wight. Any further questions? One more question from Senator Tucker. Sen. R obin T ucker: Yes, t hank y ou. [This is] Workforce Development an d the s ame performanc e measur e area, career development. Can the Junior Minister j ust tell us w hat …
The Chairman Chairman Thank y ou. So, Senator Robinson . . . I’ll just wait for one moment. And we have eight minutes remaining. And Senator Robinson, a number of questions were asked. [Pause] Sen. Leslie Robinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. [Pause] Sen . Leslie Robinson: Madam Chairman, I am just trying to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator. So you are undertaking to get back on the outstanding questions? Sen. Leslie Robinson: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. That is acknow ledged. It is now 5:34. Senator, would you like to move these heads? Sen. Leslie Robinson: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? No objection. These heads are so moved. Thank you, Senator. Sen. Leslie Robinson: So, shall I just to officially . . . Madam Chairman, just move it just so officially it is recorded that I actually moved it or . . .
The Chairman Chairman Absolutely, yes. Sorry, I thought you had. Sen. Leslie Robinson: Okay. I move that Heads 27, 55, and 60 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Those heads are so moved. Thank you, Senator. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Labour, Heads 27, 55, and 60 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24.]
The Chairman Chairman Now I will call on Senator Hodgson, the Junior Minister for Finance. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move that the following heads be approved as printed. •Non-ministry Department —Heads 1, 2, 5, 56, 63, 85, 92, 98, and 101; •Cabinet Office— Heads 51, 61 and …
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? Hearing none. [ Motion carried: The Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the Financial Year 2022/23 were considered by a Committee of the whole Senate and passed.] Se n. Arianna Hodgson: Perfect. Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that the Capital Account Estimates be approved and …
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? Hearing none. Se n. Arianna Hodgson: I move that clauses 1 through 6 of the Bill together with Schedules A to C, inclusive, be approved and stand a part of the Bill.
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? Hearing none. Se n. Arianna Hodgson: I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? Hearing none. Se n. Arianna Hodgson: I move that the title stand as part of the Bill.
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? Hearing none. Se n. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that the report of the Committee on the Bill entitled the Appropriation Act 2023 be adopted by the Senate.
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? Hearing none; so approved. [ Motion carried: The Appropriation Act 2023 was considered by a Committee of the whole Senate and passed.] Se n. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman The Committee will now rise. 392 23 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate Many thanks, Senators, and Madam President will take the Chair. [Pause] Senate resumed at 5:38 pm [Sen. the Hon. Joan E. Dillas -Wright, President, presiding] REPORT OF COMMITTEE APPROPRIATION ACT 2023 ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Yes, thank you. The President: Yes, on congratulations or obituaries? Yes, please. You have the floor.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. I wanted to take the opportunity to express my sincere condolences to two families, yet, one family, two women who were outstanding individuals in this community, women who gave their lives to service have passed on. They are two sisters. One is Mrs. Muriel Anderson who …
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