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Senate Session 2022/2023 68 speeches

March 15, 2023

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Session Summary

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This was primarily a budget presentation session where Junior Finance Minister Arianna Hodgson delivered the 2023/24 budget speech. The session began with Minister Owen Darrell announcing summer employment opportunities in government day camps, including jobs for 180 people and 500 camp spaces at $60 per week. The budget speech focused on Bermuda's economic recovery from the pandemic, citing 3.4-3.9% GDP growth in 2022 and highlighting growth in international business and tourism sectors.

Chamber Senate
Date Mar 15, 2023
Session 2022/2023
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Speakers 8
Speeches 68

Key Topics

Summer employment and camp programs for youth - hiring 180 people and serving 500 children across government day camps2023/24 Budget presentation highlighting economic recovery and government spending prioritiesMarine and ports regulations covering pilotage dues, port dues, and seaborne servicesGovernment fee amendments for trademarks and service marks

Bills & Motions

Appropriation Act 2023 - First reading completed, second reading initiated with budget presentation
Marine and Ports Authority regulations (3 separate regulations) - Presented for consideration, to be voted on at next meeting
Government Fees Amendment Regulations 2023 - Presented for consideration
Government Fees (Trade Marks and Service Marks) Amendment Regulations 2023 - Presented for consideration

Notable Moments

High demand for summer camps - registration fills up within 7 minutes of opening at 9:00 AM due to the low $60 weekly fee
Budget speech emphasized economic recovery with international business sector adding 230 new jobs in 2022, with majority going to Bermudians rather than guest workers
Government positioning itself as having successfully managed economic recovery compared to previous OBA administration

Debate Transcript

68 speeches from 8 speakers
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. I hereby present for the consideration of Senate the following draft Regulations: the Marine and Port Bermuda Senate Authority (Pilotage Dues) Regulations 2023 proposed to be made by the Minister responsible for Marine and Ports Services under the provisions of section 71 of the Marine and …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank yo u, Madam President. Thank you, Senator Hodgson. Madam President, Senate colleagues, listeners, good morning. The President: Good morning.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto I am pleased to be here with you today to discuss Bermuda’s current economic situation and the Government’s proposed budget. We will scrutinise the facts and figures, we will look at supporting data and we will ask questions. But ultimately, Madam President, while we talk about numbers, what we are …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. Madam President, we have spoken about the impact of the staff and consultants on the budget. But I would like to ask why, when we have a Premier who promotes FinTech and touts innovation at conferences, I have to go to Works and Engineering and pay …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Madam President. The President: Senator De Couto.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of order please. The President: What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive]
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Imputing improper motives, Madam President. Sen. Lindsay K. Simmons: Madam President, that is what was said. Madam President, they continue to mislead the public. I am here to stand shoulder to shoulder with my colleague. He was speaking his truth. And many of us have experienced the same treatment. Madam …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of information,
Madam President. Sen. Lindsay K. Simmons I will continue. —to the tune of $291.6 million. They were Morgan’s Point, Caroline Bay, Skyport minimum revenue guarantee, and the WEDCO at Cross [Island] . Madam President, last year’s fiscal year , after a clean audit , the Government deficit came in at $66 million. Madam President, to put …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear. Sen. Ben Smith: But it was 27 years, and the PLP needs to take responsibility for the mistakes that they have made and stop repeating them and focus on how they are going to move this country forward in a way that will make it successful for everybody, …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. My esteemed colleagues have painted a picture of gloom and doom for the economy that capital-ises on challenges that countries all over the globe are facing due to the impact of the COVID -19 pandemic, the Ukraine war and the worldwide recession. It is my belief …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of order, Madam President. The President: Senator De Couto, what is your point of order?
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto The Senator is misleading the Senate because I believe we have . . . the Senator is misleading the Senate, Madam President. The President: That is not a point of order. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Madam President, the Senator is so confused he must be s pending too much …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of order, Madam President. He is misleading the Senate. The debt was not doubled. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Madam President, I am not sure you would want these words characterising a Bermuda Government moving forward. In contrast, let me talk about the Progressive Labour Party’s Government and the …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of order; misleading the Senate. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Again, too much time on Twitter, Madam President. The President: Senator De Couto—
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto —was publicly corrected, Madam President, so — Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: Corrected? — Se n. Dr. Douglas De Couto: —it is a misleading statement. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: So you made a mistake? Say it ain’t so! The OBA wants to introduce a tax on health care. Again, …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of information,
Madam President. The President Will you accept a point of information, Minister? Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: No, thank you. Not at this time. The President: Thank you. Sen. the Hon. Owen Darrell: I just want to get this point out, Madam President, that this Progres sive Labour Party Government has implemented policies to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam President. So, as Senators we are now in Committee of the whole for further consideration of the Appropriation Act 2023 together with the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. The Ministry under consideration is Finance. The heads for debate under this Ministry are Head …
The Chairman Chairman Would any Senator wish to speak on those heads? Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 budget estimates for the Ministry of Finance are found in section B of the Estimates Book on pages B-104 through B -124, and in section C on pages C -4, C-11 and C -18. …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry. If I could just interrupt, I have just been asked to ask all the Senators just to check that their microphones are off, save for Senator Hodgson. And just a quick note, that is close to an hour. There are seven heads, so I just want to make sure …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator. Would any Senator wish to speak on these heads? Senator De Couto.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam Chairman. I think I also saw that Senator Wight had some questions. So maybe I will have some questions —I will have quite a few. So perhaps I could ask some ques-tions, and then Senator Wight might ask s ome questions or some other Senators if that …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. I think that it is important for the Opposition to have an opportunity to debate.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Great. Thank you. Madam Chairman, I will turn to the guarantees on page C -30, which I believe we would classify under Head 58 at table C -30, or at the bottom of page C -30. My first question is, I understand that last year there was a $2.5 million …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator De Couto. Would any other Senator wish to speak on these heads? We have until 7:02. Sen. John Wight: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just a few questions. Page B -106, Head 10 for the Ministry of Finance Headquarters. Perhaps the Junior Minister could just expl ain the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Wight. Does any other Senator have any other questions before—sorry. I am seeing Senator De Couto look as if he has some more. Senator Smith. Sen. Ben Smith: Yes. Thank you. I just have one quick question. Under Head 12, I know that the Junior Minister was …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Smith. Would any other Senator wish to speak on these heads? I see Senator De Couto again. Thanks.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam Chairman. And actually, I did want to apologise. I was remiss to [not] say that I did appreciate the effort that the Junior Minister took to get the brief and give us this opportunity to ask [questions]. It is not taken for granted. I also actually —Senator …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Sure. Page B -113, GPO Customs Duty (8009), which I presume is customs duty at the post offices, predicted up 23 per cent, or $121,000, whereas 8117, Courier Package Fees, is predicted down 20 per cent, or $235,000. And I would like to understand what is behind those predictions and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator De Couto. Would any other Senator care to speak on these heads? Senator John Wight. Sen. John Wight: At the risk of the Junior Minister regretting giving time [for questions], I w ill ask one more question. [Laughter] Sen. John Wight: But I do really appreciate it. …
The Chairman Chairman I see that Senator Smith does have a question while we are waiting. So, Senator Smith. Sen. Ben Smith: Yes. Thank you, Madam Chairman. We have talked about the collection of the taxes and t he taxes that have been unpaid for some time. I know that there was a …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Smith. Senator Hodgson. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you. So there were a lot of questions. And I will do my best to answer them. The responses of course will not be in the order received. But I would like to get through as many as we can. …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Madam Chairman, could I ask a clarifying question on that? Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Yes. So I can provide some additional.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: So the Government did not pay on the guarantee. It actually elected to purchase the tranche B and C loans. That was in order to satisfy the demand of the guarantee. Although it is now owned by the government, the tranche B and C debt …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Senator De Couto had asked a question about the $30 million credit facility that exists with the Clarien for the Hospitals Board and had a question about whether or not that was inclusive in the $758 million. The answer is no, it is not included. …
The Chairman Chairman So, I was just making sure we understood that was in response to Senator Wight’s question. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Yes. Senator Wight, yes.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: I always look to this side of the room. Sen. John Wight: Thank you again, Junior Minister. I think I understand the concept. Thank you. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Okay. There was commentary based on page B -112 and the note that the preparation of summary financial …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Madam Chairman, I might just add one question while we wait.
The Chairman Chairman Senator De Couto.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you. In Head 38, with the Tax Commissioner, I would like to understand how the Government arrived at the target figure of $7.5 million for the debt collection and not perhaps a higher figure. Thank you. [Pause] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: It is quite a short answer. But there was …
The Chairman Chairman Senator Tucker. Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I just have one question. And it comes from page B -112 under Consolidated Reporting, business Bermuda Senate unit 21100. I am just curious to know, under the performance measure it says Preparation of summary financial statements of the Bermuda Government. …
The Chairman Chairman I think, Senator Tucker, that may have been covered by Senator Wight in his question and answered by Senator Hodgson. Correct me if I am wrong, however. Sen. John Wight: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Sen. Robin Tucker: Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Sorry, Senator Smith. I did not see you. Sen. Ben Smith: No problem. Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just a follow -on from the response that the Junior Minister gave regarding the outsourcing of the tax collection. Considering that the unlicensed company that was able to collect a lot of tax …
The Chairman Chairman Senator De Couto, did I see that you had a follow -up?
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto It was more a comment on the payroll tax collection. Because the employer has collected for the government and [not] paid it, the employer does not pay the government. They in fact are stealing from their employees. So I appreciate that there c an be tough times for companies, but …
The Chairman Chairman And we have 10 minutes remaining. Senator De Couto.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Yes, if I might follow up actually on the most recent question that Senator Wight raised about, Why are overhead or pensions and health insurance going down, but salaries and wages are going up? And I appreciate the comment about the ebbs and flows. But it seems to me if …
The Chairman Chairman Senator De Couto.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Yes, Madam Chairman. I believe I have a question outstanding on the Bermuda infrastructure fund costs. There were some detailed questions about the customs and courier duty costs. And I had two outstanding questions on the BCB mortgage guarantee. I believe that would be that. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: [Microphone off] An Hon. Senator: Is your microphone on? 174 15 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Sorry. And so when it comes to recouping funds, it is a lot easier to get funds from civil servants than it would be …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto It is the infrastructure fund. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Oh, the infrastructure fund. Sorry.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto You answered the InnoFund one. Thank you, Junior Minister.
The Chairman Chairman You have two minutes remaining. Two. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Yes, Madam Chairman. I am just hoping to wrap up in the next few minutes. [Pause] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: The Bermuda infrastructure fees are repaid as part of Government’s participation in the public/private partnerships. So any funds that are not used …
The Chairman Chairman So that was the answer to Senator De Couto’s question? [No audible response] [Pause] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Madam Chairman, if that is all, I would like to move that the Heads 10, 11, 12, 28, 38, 39 and 58 be approved as printed. The Chairman: Is there any objection? There …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that the Committee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? No. No objection. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress and sought leave to sit again.] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator. And Madam President can now return to her Chair. Senate resumed at 7:03 pm [Sen. the Hon. Joan E. Dillas -Wright, President, presiding] REPORT OF COMMITTEE ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023/24 The President: Is there any objection to the Committee rising and …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. I join with Senator Wight in the expressions of condolences for the young man from Somersfield Academy and certainly join with his family and that school family and the community at large. He seemed to be an incredible young man, and there has been a fundraiser …
Madam President. The President Good to s ee you. WOMEN OF THE PROGRESSIVE LABOUR PARTY
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you. March is a very special month, for not only do we here in these hallowed Chambers, share the Esti-mates of Revenue and Expenditure of the Government for the ensuring fiscal year, but we also have the opportunity to receive an overview of the programmes and successes of each …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Madam President, in addition to electing and appointing female legislators, this Government has demonstrated its embracing of equity by the inclusion and elevation of women throughout the civil service. Madam President, may I please call the roll of the many female leaders who are charting a path and leading the …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you. • The Deputy Head of the Public Service is a female, Ms. Chery -Lynn Whitter . • The Acting Financial Secretary is Ms. Cheryl - Ann Lister. • The Chief of Domestic Financial Affairs is Dr. Jennifer Attride- Stirling. Madam President, there are seven female permanent secretaries out …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Okay. Okay, okay, okay. The President: Not a full minute.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Okay. Madam President, women throughout the Government of Bermuda are working assiduously, rising through the ranks and giving their all to create a just and equitable society. They are dedicated, courageous, passionate, visionary, well -prepared and effectively contributing to building a strong Bermuda. Madam President, I could not let this …
Madam President. The President Thank you, Senator Ben Smith, Opposition Leader in the Senate. I am sure all Senators would agree with you. Senator Lindsay Simmons, you have the floor. CONTROVERSY OVER MINISTER’S COMMENTS IN HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY Sen. Lindsay Simmons: Thank you, Madam President. Madam President, I want to thank the Senate Opposition …
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