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House of Assembly Session 2022/2023 379 speeches

March 8, 2023

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Session Summary

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This was a routine parliamentary sitting focused primarily on the Transport Ministry's budget presentation. Minister Furbert presented a $72.3 million transport budget, highlighting that Bermuda expects a record 224 cruise ship calls bringing 622,000 passengers in 2023, generating an estimated $233 million economic impact. Several ministers gave statements on emergency training programs and improvements to Immigration Department processing times. Multiple MPs paid tribute to International Women's Day and offered condolences to families of deceased community members.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 8, 2023
Session 2022/2023
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Speakers 18
Speeches 379

Key Topics

Budget debate for Ministry of Transport (2023/24) - covering airports, cruise ships, marine services, and public transportationInternational Women's Day recognition and tributes to women in government and communityMAGIC emergency response training for government agencies and first respondersImprovements to passport and work permit processing delaysCondolences for recently deceased community members

Bills & Motions

Payroll Tax Amendment Act 2023 - introduced for first reading only, placed on Order Paper for future consideration
No bills were debated or voted on during this sitting

Notable Moments

Record cruise season announced - 224 ship calls expected in 2023 compared to 164 in 2022, representing the highest number of inaugural ship visits in recent history
Immigration processing improvements reported - passport applications back to 11-week standard from previous delays of over 20 weeks
Extensive recognition of women leaders across government departments, particularly in National Security roles

Debate Transcript

379 speeches from 18 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. Madam Clerk will lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Shernette Wolffe, Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members . The House is now in session. [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 3 and 6 March 2023 ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of March 3 and March 6 have been circulated. Are there any amend-ments to either one? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 3 and 6 March 2023 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we have been informed of two of your Members who will be absent today. Minister Tinee Furbert and MP Lister will be absent today. MESSAGES FROM T HE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are two papers this morning, both in the name of the Minister of Finance. I think the Dep-uty Premier is going to present them this morning. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to yourself, good morning to the Members of the Legislature and the listening public.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, sir. BERMUDA PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD ANNUAL REPORT Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honour-able House of Assembly the Bermuda Public Accountability Board Annual Report for the year ending March 31, 2022, as required by …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next one? Hon. Walter H. Roban: May I continue, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Continue. BERMUDA PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING 31 MARCH 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honour-able House of Assembly the Audited Financial State-ments for the Bermuda Public Accountability Board for …
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. You are welcome. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker Members, this morning there are two Statements. The first is in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. 820 8 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Good morning. MAGIC TRAINING Hon. Michael …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PASSPORT AND WORK PERMIT APPLI CATIONS PROCESSES Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, it is with great pleasure that I rise today to advise this Honourable House that the Department of Immigration has made significant improvements to the timelines for processing passports and work permits . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, this is the last of the Statements for this morning. We will move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are no written questions today. However, two Members have indicated that they have questions for the two Statements this morning. First, the Statement by the Minister of National Security. MP Cannonier. QUESTION 1: MAGIC TRAINING
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you. T hank you, Mr. Speaker. I was having trouble getting [the State-ment] downloaded, but I finally did. The Minister mentioned several folk who are in organisations who attended. And typically in the past these events have involved local agencies also—and declaring my interest —like the fuel companies …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In answer to the MP’s question, I do not know everyone who was there, but it was wide- ranging. I do not know if anybody in particular was from the fuel com-panies.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Okay. Thank you. Minister, that is the only question for you. We will move on to the next Statement. And, Minister Hayward, MP Pearman would like to put a question to you. QUESTION 1: IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PASSPORT AND WORK PERMIT APPLICATIONS PROCESSES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. And good morning, Mr. Speaker. And thank you, Honourable Minister, for your Statement to the Honourable House. You indicated in your Statement that you are seeking to address delays in both passports and work permits. My first question is about passports. In the Budget Debate on Monday, you …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? No. MP Jackson. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker. My question is [about] the passport applications that are in the process now and have been in the process for an extended period of time, I am wondering if the Minister might be able to provide any indication that some of these long- process passports will …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The Statement was not a statement that we anticipate. The Statement was a state-ment that we have been monitoring and observing the turnaround times, and we are meeting the 11- week turnaround time for all of the documents that have gen-erally been submitted. I did indicate …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please, Mr. Speaker. I am just curious w ith this new framework to expedite and be more efficient with passport applications if there is a component of this programme that com-municates with the customer, with the applicant so that the applicant can manage their expectation on when their particular …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: In this current manual process, we do not give periodic updates as to where the pass-port is in the passport process. The aim is that when we move forward with automation and digitisation of the process, persons will be able to track their particular applications. I …
The Speaker The Speaker Any further [questions] ? No, the Member has used her two supplements. Do you have a supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman I do not. I am moving to my second question, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question? Continue. Yes. QUESTION 2: IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PASSPORT AND WORK PERMIT APPLICATIONS PROCESSES
Mr. Scott Pearman Minister, thank you for addressing the issue of seeking to get the 20- week period down to 11 weeks on passports. Turning now to the second part of your Statement on work permits. Are these internal rearrange-ments going to truncate or lessen the period for work permits, and can you …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman You have indicated that renewals tend to be . . . I think you said well within the 20-day period. How about new applications for work permits? Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I indicated that for all documents we will want to have …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second supplementary , or new question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, okay. That is it. There are no further questions for Statements this morning. Thank you, Members. We will now move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member —Mr. Premier, you have your three minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the first item that I would like to rise on today would be a traditional congrats and obits, and the second one not so much, Mr. Speaker. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: On the second note, Mr. Speaker, I am not entirely certain if there is a letter of congratu-lations that could be sent from the House as you would be sending letters for the rest of the year. But I would like to rise and …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Any other Member? Deputy Speaker? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr. : Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to send condolences to the family of one of Bermuda’s oldest citizens, Ms. Winnie Smith, who died at 106 years old, a resident of Claytown, Bailey’s Bay. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Jackson, you have your three minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 824 8 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I would just like to be associated with the congratulatory remarks in recognition of International Women’s Day. It is an important day for women. I t is a chance for us to show our strength …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister Weeks. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to also be associated with the r emarks for International Women’s Day, but in particular, Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognise some women who are in my various departments that come under …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert, would you like to make your contribution? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also would like to be associated with the remarks regarding International Women’s Day. Mr. Speaker, there is a song that I sang. It is “All that I am and Ever …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Mr. Whip, would you like your three minutes?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, I would like for congratulations to go out to a group known as Vermeer Re-insurance. They recently held their Women’s Day Gala and presented a Lifetime Achievement Award to Ms. Kathleen Faries. And the reason why I mention this group is because they are a group of strong …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP De Silva, you have your three minutes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning as I would like to offer condolences and the House to offer condo-lences …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Pearman, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to be associated with the remarks of the Premier and my colleague, Susan Jackson, MP, to cel-ebrate International Wom en’s Day today. As a grandson, a son, a brother of three sisters, a husband and a father to brilliant and very powerful daughters, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. I would like to associate myself with the comments made in regard to International Women’s Day. I would like to commend the organisers of the event that was held this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? There are none. We will move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE The S peaker: There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There is one Government Bill to be introduced this morning, in the name of the Minister of Finance. Premier. FIRST READING PAYROLL TAX AMENDMENT ACT 2023 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill by its name only so that it may …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are now at that stage of starting today’s proceedings for the debates on the es-timates and revenues from this year’s budget. And again for our listening audience, there are eight hours set aside for the daily debates on the budget. During this period, the Speaker is out of …
The Chairman Chairman Good morning, Honourable Members. We are now in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Ex-penditure for the year 2023/24. Heads 48, 30, 34 and 35 are now to be debated. I call on the Premier to move. Hon. E. David Burt: We kind …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Premier. Now that we are officially in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24, Heads 48, 30, 34 and 35 are now to be debated. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Why? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It was something called— [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. There was that form that they had to fill out. They were not happy with that. So that was part of the reason why it fell down. But mostly they attribute it to COVID …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Is there anybody who would like to speak to Head 48? I recognise the Shadow Minister for Transport, Ms. Susan Jackson. You have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Good morning, Mr. Chairman. So I would like to ask some questions. It is Head 48 on page B -197. So I just want to make it clear that there are basically two line items for this. So I would like to start first with the General Summary, Bermuda …
The Chairman Chairman Point of order? What is your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member Jackson seems to be just replying to [the Honourable Minister’s] brief without referring to any numbers, any-thing whatsoever. It seems to be just a free- for-all. I was …
The Chairman Chairman Member, she did refer to [programme] 4801, which is Administration, and which is the Trans-portation Planning Team, which is responsible for all of the topics that she is speaking on right now.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And it is [cost centre] 58010, Transportation Planning Team. And it is on page B -197. And if I just may make a comment, please? The Transportation Planning Team is a section within Head 48 of the Ministry of Transportation. There are no line items under …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson All right? So I am going to continue with my questions. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order. Point of order,
Mr. Chairman. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva No, she cannot do that. The rules are you speak to line items. And you speak to sec-tions in the Budget Book. You cannot say, Well, until you do this I’m going to speak to whatever I want . That is not true. And it should not be allowed.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So I will stay on line item 58010, Transportation Planning Team, on page B -197. And I will ask my final question around that. And that is, Are ships obligated to fulfil their fees that are anticipated or are expected to be paid to the Bermuda Government when they are …
The Chairman Chairman The Minister indicated at the start of his debate that it was for the head for head, meaning that anything that comes under Head 48, Ministry of Transport Headquarters, which would be the Admin-istration or the Regulatory and Policy.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I would just like to take a moment to go over to page C -19, which is Grants and Contributions. And this is listed as line item 7099, the Bermuda Airport Author-ity. And this also falls under Head 48 as listed on page B-198, Grants and Contributions, with …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson —to BELCO, and I do not know if the Bermuda Airport Authority pays the energy for the airport. If the Minister might give us an update on the solar park and how that works with the Bermuda Airport Authority and whether there is some arrange-ment there. Because the high cost …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who have questions or who would like to speak to Head 48 under the Ministry of Transport? You have the floor, Member.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you. And good morning, colleagues and to Bermuda. On page B -197 under the Priorities and Objectives, I was just curious. I will go down to the bottom of the page on B -197 under Administration, 4801, under Administration, 58000 and, of course, 58010, Transpor-tation and Planning Team. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I just said where it is. I just explained where that was. [The Honourable Minister] said it in his statement. So I have got to refer to his general statement. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I was not in that Ministry. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All our times are coming. We have all got time. I am sure yours is limited, too. [Inaudible interjection and laughter ]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes, yes. That’s right. You keep chirping. Your former Finance Minister has got a whole lot to say about you, your team.
The Chairman Chairman Member, it might be helpful —
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier You have got a lot of interpolation going here. It is not necessary.
The Chairman Chairman But you are now allowing the interpolations to take you off of your trend.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am goi ng to my next point. I am going to my next point. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: So if you can just head to your next point, then—
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Absolutely. Call everybody in check, Chairman. Okay. So I am going to go over . . . Some of the lines are blurred, of course, because you have the communication between Headquarters and communi-cations with WEDCO for Transportation. I understand that Transportation—they used to have a transportation expert up at …
The Chairman Chairman If you are looking in the back, what you can speak to is on page C -19 under Ministry of Transport. That would be what you are allowed to speak to at this time because that would be what is un-der Head 48.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. But it goes into public transportation, and I think I will wait until we get to that part. So the initial question is understanding a little better, How is the communication for the Headquarters and all of the interest groups like the ferries and like, for instance, the bus …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I would like to just turn to Head 48, Ministry of Transport Headquarters, and under that is the Ber-muda Civil Aviation Authority. And if I need a line item, I will go to page B -198 at Revenue Summary, 8108, Civil Aviation Receipts. So in 2021/22 the Budget …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I know. Any damage to the prosperity of the Shipping and Maritime Authority and whether they too are having to look in other direc-tions or pivot their strategy in order to maintain a lucra-tive model for our Shipping and Maritime registers? I will ta ke my seat at this …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Jackson. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to Head 48 under the Ministry of Transport? MP De Silva, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question or two. The Honourable Member Susan Jackson spiked …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP De Silva. Is there anybody else who would like to speak to Head 48, Ministry of Transport, on page B -197? Keep in mind that this is a four -hour debate and it started at 10:40. It is now 11:52, and we are just on the first …
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you. I know it may sound to be repetitious, but I believe the Minister said under Head 48, page B -198, I believe the Minister said we were talking about almost $3 million in electricity. So I guess my question is a little different. What can be done and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member Simmons -Wade. Is there anybody else who would like to speak to Head 48, the Ministry of Transport Headquarters, found on pages B -196 through B -199? Bermuda House of Assembly MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I just have one other question. When we were talking about the revenue guarantee for the airport, I was just curious. There is a break point when we will have enough passengers on aircraft to provide enough revenue to make sure that our bills are paid. And un-derstandably, …
The Chairman Chairman Member. Go ahead. What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is asking the Minister, What point do we have to get where we do not have to pay XYZ and we have reve-nues coming in? The Honourable Member was …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is not a point of order. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I agree with my colleagues. That was not a point of order. But my question again is, we have had to start with airlift to Bermuda with very few passengers on it. We had to deal with the travel authorisation form, which was cumbersome and frustrating and expensive. And then …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Jackson. Is there anybody else who would like to speak to Head 48, Ministry of Transport Headquarters, found on pages B -196 through B -199 in the Budget Book? With there being nobody else indicating, Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you have the floor. Stay focused. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. So what I am saying is if I only had expenses and no revenue coming in for that (it was going out to somebody else, the retail store next door), you could never have made any money. So …
The Chairman Chairman You have roughly 13 minutes until lunch. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Okay. Let me see what I can answer. Sometimes confirmed it is $25 for transport in-frastructure tax. The questions, I have a whole bunch of them here. BCAA. Yes, BCAA. It was interesting that when I was the Minister …
The Chairman Chairman Member, you are speaking to the PLP’s budget. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. But I am just telling you how the aircraft, the funds came into existence. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert : So the whole idea . . . So I understand how the whole idea of the …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Point of clarification.
The Chairman Chairman Minister, are you willing to accept a point of clarification? [No audible response.]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thanks. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Then can you confirm, because as I was listening to the brief, brief, that I thought I heard that under the Bermuda Airport Authority $3 mil-lion had been budgeted and put aside for the airlines? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Oh, so if that is the question, yes. We set aside …
The Chairman Chairman The average aircraft that comes to Bermuda seats 150 passengers. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: A hundred and fifty. So we are asking for larger ones, and I believe—not believe. But we have a meeting I think this week or next week, next week, talking to them about how can we …
The Chairman Chairman Five minutes until lunch. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Okay. I think I answered that question already. You asked for the hotels, the BTA active members. I just answered that question regarding—
Ms. Susan E. Jackson The solar part. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Oh, the solar part. I am glad you asked that question. So the solar part was put in place by the OBA. You remember that, don’t you? Yes, they put it in place. So that does not go to Skyport, nor does it …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We have a new airport. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: And now we are paying out money. And anything that the BAA is responsible for, the lights and the aeronautical and everything else that runs on the runway, that is what we are paying for. You know, it is amazing how …
The Chairman Chairman And you have timed that perfectly, Minister. Deputy Leader, if you can take us to lunch. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do move that we adjourn for lunch until 2:00 pm.
The Chairman Chairman There is a motion that we move to lunch. Is there any objection? With there no objection, we go to lunch. Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2: 01 pm [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members. We now resume in the Committee of Supply for further considering of the Estimates [of] Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24, under the Ministry of Transport, Heads 48, 30, 34 and 35. I call upon the Minister in charge to proceed. The Honourable Minister, Wayne Furbert. …
The Chairman Chairman We are glad that you made that differential. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, we had a good debate this morning on Head 48.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: But I am now going to take . . . instead of just doing a separate one I am going to do Head 30 . . .
The Chairman Chairman Heads 34 and 35? Hon. Wayne L. Fur bert: Yes, I am going to do them all together this time.
The Chairman Chairman You may go right ahead, Minister. HEAD 30 —MARINE AND PORTS SERVICES Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, the budget for Head 30, Marine and Ports Services , commonly referred to as M& P, is found on pages B -200 through B - 204 of the Estimates of Revenue and …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, that is absolutely correct. It began . . . and it will conclude, unless I stand corrected, at 4:10 pm. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: All right. As I said, these other ones are not too complicated, so we might finish a little earlier unless the Op-position wants to go …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly The Minister has just completed Head 30 under Marine and Ports and he has done business units found on page B -200 through B -204. Minister, you wish to proceed? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. HEAD 34 —TRANSPORT CONTROL DEPARTMENT Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Head 34, TCD, Transport Control Department, The Transport Control Department’s mission is To assure the safety of all road users. Mr. Chairman, the TCD oversees the operation of all motor vehicles and road users on Bermuda’s roads. The …
The Chairman Chairman The Minister is moving forward on Head 34, Transport Control Department, and he is un-der the General Summary, business unit 3401, page B - 205. Minister. Expenditure Overview Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, TCD’s budget allocation of $5,206,000 for 2023/24, an increase of $724,000 over 2022/23, which can be …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It is important for people to get their . . . there are times when people aren’t licensing their cars. We have that challenge and if you are not aware, TCD has the ability to see if a person’s car is not …
The Chairman Chairman March 30, Minister. Very well. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I just didn’t want to tell you that, but I go 36. [Laughter and inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: And many people have approached me on this. Right? We are going to make that process simple for individuals who want …
The Chairman Chairman Members, the Minister is speak ing on Head 34, Transport Control Department found between pages B -205 and B -208. He is also working with the Capital Expenditure found on page C -13. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, we will also talk about Head 35.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Mini ster. HEAD 35 —DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, Department of Public Transportation (DPT), is found on pages B -209 through B -212 of the Budget Book. The department’s mission is Moving Bermuda with a quality public bus service . You are all familiar …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. The Minister has concluded his presentation for the Ministry of Transport, found in Heads 48, 30, 34, and 35. Would any other Member like to speak to these heads? I recognise the Honourable Member Susan Jackson. Ms. Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you, Minister, for that brief brief. It was wel-come. T hank you for reporting on all three heads. I would like to begin with Head 30 on page B - 200. I am going to jump right into the Ferry Service, which is on …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we have resumed in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24 under the Ministry of Transport, Heads 48, 30, 34 and 35. The Honourable Shadow Minister Susan Jackson is standing and speaking at the moment. Go ahead, Shadow …
The Chairman Chairman There are about 60 minutes left.
The Chairman Chairman Sixty minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Sixty. Okay. We’re good, 60 minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I will clip along.
The Chairman Chairman One hour.
The Chairman Chairman Carry on. You were on page B -200, General Summary.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I will try to wind this one down very quickly. So my last piece, and again, I am focusing a lot of the human resources in the maritime right now, for this year, making sure that they have what they need. And over on page B -201, under the …
The Chairman Chairman And just a correction. The debate will end at ten after four which means that we have about an hour and fifteen minutes as opposed to the 60 minutes that I spoke of earlier. Honourable Shadow Minister, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I have just one last question for Head 30. I am on page B -201, and I wanted to just take a look at the . . . under Subjective Analysis, the energy costs. So, of course, the energy costs are going up. We have invested this year, …
The Chairman Chairman Oh, that’s fine. Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Mr. Craig Cannonier. Mr. Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, good to see you. Yes, on page B -201, under the Revenue Summary. I am just curious, we seen an increase here of about $565,000. Of that $565,000, is that due to in-creased traffic or did we increase fees in any way, a combination of both? …
The Chairman Chairman Under page C -13. That is fine.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Number 2.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I take the Honourable Shadow.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. That just triggered another question. On page B-201, under Revenue Summary, toward the bottom, 8763 Tug. And we are showing revenue of $1.469. So, $1,469,000. I am curious. We had old Faithful and old Powerful retire. And I read in the news that both of those tug boats …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Shadow Minister.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, this is on page B -205. I would like to begin with the objectives on the page. There is an objective in here [t]o develop an improved public transportation network utilising modern technol-ogy. And I believe in the brief the Minister may have just quickly referenced advancements. And I …
The Chairman Chairman Page B-205.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Page B -205 is the $927,000 operating cost. But when I turn the page to B -206, I am seeing zero for wages. So I don’t know whether $927,000 is for wages or whether we are investing in something that is going to cost $927,000 for this year, under Registration. …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-mm.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I have a question about emissions testing. I have two themes. One is staff and re-sources and developing m aritime professions, and my other is environmental consciousness. We certainly had, at one point (now many years ago), the capacity to measure emissions. Cer-tainly it would not be something I would …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am just taking a look at my notes.
The Chairman Chairman M m-hmm. Members, now there are about 60 minutes left in the . . . as we go into the resumption of the . . . for further consideration of the expenditures in revenue and expenditures for the year 2023/24, that being Heads 48, 30, 34 and 35. The Shadow …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Thank you. I am trying to abbreviate my questions. So, still on page B -205, under General Summary, 44090, Road Safety, the Minister did let us know that allocation is being made to have an additional road safety officer, which is a great thing. And he also mentioned that …
The Chairman Chairman On page B -206. Am I correct?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson We are still on page B -206. Still in Revenue Summary. So we have done the exam-ination of four wheels. Now I have come down a little further to midway, 8473, Commercial Vehicles. I am noticing that we are looking at an increase of revenue by $566,000. If I may …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Shadow Minister. As the Minister works on answers to your questions, would any other Member like to speak to this? I recognise [MP] Jarion Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to speak to my colleague, to follow up with my colleague’s query as it r elated to abandoned vehicles. We have that as a large issue in my constituency as well. My understanding, as it is, is that the department does have the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Member like to speak at thi s time? The Honourable Shadow Minister Susan Jackson. You have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to move onto Head 35, Public Transportation. It is on page B -209. I would like to just start with 45090, and that is Repair Servicing. So, it looks as though there are $4,000,561 which is an in-crease of $769,000 for repair …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Shadow Minister.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Still on Head 35, under page B-209, 45120 Administration. There was mention earlier about the school buses. And I am just wondering, under Administration, if the Minister might be able to give us an update or just tell us how much the contracts for the school minibuses are. I see …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Shadow Minister. Would any other Member like to speak? There appears to be no other Member that wishes to speak. Minister, we have about, by my math, about 22 minutes. I apologise about that. Ten after is the end of the debate (at 4:10). We have …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Chairman, can I just ask one other question?
The Chairman Chairman For the Minister? Yes. Go ahead, Shadow Minister.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson While he is getting his notes together. My final question is on page C -14, Capital Acquisition. There is $150,000 that has been allocated for . . . and this is line item 76912, Digital Fare Media. And this is a really important question. Can the Minister pro-vide an update …
The Chairman Chairman I believe the Honourable Member has a short bit of clarification.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson May I make a point of clarification?
The Chairman Chairman Minister, just take your seat for second. Shadow Minister. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Yes. I asked the same question and the whole conversation of whether it is fair and I don’t want to use the word, but I am going to. Is it discriminatory for visitors, tourists versus locals. And so I thought of the sugges-tions which they do in a …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Shadow Minister. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: All those things can be taken into consideration whether it is discrimination . . . I am not an expert on that. I would have had to talk to people whether they think it is discriminatory to charge a differ-ent fee …
The Chairman Chairman Discriminatory. Carry on, Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Well, young people ride on the buses free and outside of school they still ride free. It is a decision the Government at the time decided. As a matter of fact, I think Dr. Brown was the one who did the student’s …
The Chairman Chairman If you are willing, Minister. Will you yield to the Shadow Minister? Shadow Minister. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Point of clarification. Could the Minister . . . did you say that it is $11 million for gas ferry? Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Shadow Minister. Minister. 858 8 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It came down to . . . this is one of the reasons why the Minister Zane was able to put that infrastructure tax on a couple of years ago.
The Chairman Chairman Former Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Former Minister. And it was a good job because he was able to raise money to pay for some of these things. We collected roughly $11 million. That is with just one ferry. What he did well at the time was encour-age Norwegian. I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. And just for Members, just to remind you that we are in the Committee of Supply f or further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. And it is the Ministry of Transport. The Honourable Wayne Furbert has the floor. He is …
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, please. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: —Bermuda, and you don’t want me being a pilot. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: What is the increase in tug services? Due to more cruise calls in 2023/24, that is why we have an increase in tug services. What is t he update to the tug boat accident with the cruise ship? We will have to get …
The Chairman Chairman Fine. Thank you, Minister. I will take Mr. Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, just a further question to that. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and Minister. When I was asking that question I was particularly referring to the increased traffic of tourists and the ferries that go back and forth. I am also curious that it takes an hour from St. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I can do that. I can do that in like 40 minutes.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Cannonier. I will take the Minister. But just before the Minister, Shadow Mi nister, Susan Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Thank you. I have an Orange Ferry question. So, if we are just using the Orange Ferry for tourists, does that mean that the Orange Ferry just sort of sits at the dock when it is not being used? Or is it used for special events? I know that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Shadow Minister. I am sure you will wait for the Minister to get a reply on that. Minister, you may continue. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Member Cannonier, it takes 40 minutes. It is 20 minutes longer for a ferry maybe . . . but he may be speeding. …
The Chairman Chairman There is about 15 minutes left, Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: How much time?
The Chairman Chairman About 15 minutes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Fifteen. Is the Capital Funds mentioned to complete the bow loading in St. George’s? Yes. Somebody asked me that question. This will complete the project. Question, has energy cost increased? Answer, yes. The BELCO increase has had a direct impact on the department’s …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. If there are no further questions to the Minister . . . there are none. Minister, you may go ahead and move your heads. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman. I move that Heads 48, 30, 34 and 35 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. 860 8 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly It has been moved that Heads 48, 30, 34 and 35 . . . that they be moved. Are there any objections to that? There are none. They are so moved; they are approved. …
The Chairman Chairman We now, Honourable Members, resume in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24 under the Ministry of Economy and La-bour, Heads 14, 55, and 60 are to be taken into consid-eration. Minister. You may move, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 14, 55, and 60 be t aken under consideration. Go ahead, Minister. MINISTRY OF ECONOMY AND LABOUR HEAD 14 —DEPARTMENT OF STATISTICS Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, it gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 14, the Depart-ment of Statistics, found …
The Chairman Chairman For the benefit of the listening audience and my Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. We are doing the Department of Statistics. Honourable Minist er Jason P. Hayward is now presenting Heads 55 …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, can you pause there? For the benefit of the listening public and Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. Honourable Min-ister Jason P. Hayward is discussing Financial Assis-tance, Head 55, and [Department of …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you may proceed with Head 60. Honourable Members and the listening public, we are now in the Committee of Supply to consider the Estimated of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. Honourable Minister Jason P. Hayward is now on Financial Assistance, and he is reading Head 60. Minister, …
The Chairman Chairman Minister for the benefit of the listening public, we are now in the Committee of Supply to con-sider the Estimated of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. Honourable Minister Jason P. Haywar d is now giving his presentation on Workforce Develop-ment, which is Head 60. Minister, you may proceed. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. For the benefit of the listening public, we are now in the Committee of Supply to consider the Esti-mated of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. The Honourable Minister Jason P. Hayward has now concluded his remarks, and I am now opening the floor for someone …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed, Member.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will start with the riveting topic of statistics.
The Chairman Chairman Would you define “riveting, ” please?
Mr. Jarion Richardson I would start with . . . first of all, in doing research for this contribution, the PATI statement was up to date for that department. And that is always very, very helpful because when we prepare for these, we do want to make sure that our contribu-tions are useful …
The Chairman Chairman Are you yielding to the Minister at this point? Mr. Jarion Richardson: I have plenty of questions, so I can just keep going and going and going.
The Chairman Chairman I think that’s plan.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Also, I would bring the Minister’s a ttention to last year . The Minister said austerity measures would lead to a decrease in full -time equivalents. I draw the Minister’s attention to . . . can I read, Mr. Chairman? The Chairman: You may proceed.
Mr. Jarion Richardson I am just turning to t he right page of the Hansard.
The Chairman Chairman For the benefit of the listening audience, MP Jarion Richardson is reading his re-marks/questions, as riveting as they are.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will move on. I don’t think that ’s the area that has been dealt with . My question to the Minister is, last year we saw that decrease in full -time equivalents, what, if any, impact has that had on operations for the Department …
The Chairman Chairman Member, is that a question or a statement? Mr. Jarion Richardson: Both, Mr. Chairman. Both. So, please explain why it was delayed, whether it will be completed, as in published, this financial year. That is the question, Mr. Chairman. That is my first batch of questions for the Department of …
The Chairman Chairman Member, continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I note the major achievement made under the Department of Statistics, namely, moving from Mi-crosoft Access to an SQL [Structure Query Language] database for international trade data. That is really quite helpful. I am quite sure they are very proud of that and all that work. …
The Chairman Chairman For the benefit of the listening audience, Minister Jason P. Hayward is giving replies to MP Jarion Richardson on Head 14, Statistics. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I am awaiting clarity on why business unit 24020 declined by 22 per cent. Once I am provided with that particular clarity , …
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Honourable Minister. So, waiting on the 22 per cent, and there is a question that relates to what impact, if any, that de-crease of full -time equivalents has had from last year. That is about professional services. So what impact, if any, has happened …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister.
Mr. Jarion Rich ardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the Honourable Minister. I am happy to move on to Head 55 while we wait for the response to the question on 24020 under Head 14. Do you want me to continue? The Chairman: Yes please, go ahead.
Mr. Jarion Richard son Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My contribution this evening as it relates to Financial Assistance is , first of all , to reiterate just how important it is to Bermuda that we deal with this matter quite fully and conclusively. You might notice, as I think anyone who has wandered around …
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jarion Richardson: The Minister said, 1“. . . risk management framework that conforms to ISO 31000 (International Organization for Standardization) was being researched for consideration and implementation. The standard is used to promote a consistent ap-plication of best practice in business activities. …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Those two categories in last year were said . . . and I thank the Minister for updating those numbers, but I will have to use last years for this. The persons employed with insufficient earnings or with earnings low, as was outlined in performance measures, was 196, and able- …
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed, Member.
Mr. Jarion Richardson 2“The Financial Assistance Amendment Act 2021 was enacted in October 2021. This change represent s Phase One of Financial Assistance Reform and requires recipients to register with the Department of Workforce Development for job seeking purposes; participate in workforce related as-sessments and development programs and enter into a Personal Employment …
The Chairman Chairman You have the floor, Member.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Further, I noticed in the performance measure, and it might have been in the Minister’s brief, but I would have missed it. I would thank the Minister to up-date us on what I see as Phase Two of the Financial Assistance Reform project, again, if I …
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed, Member. 2 Ibid. 11 March 2022, page 743 880 8 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jarion Richardson: The Honourable Minister said last year “Mr. Chairman, during the next fiscal period” [that is the one we are in at the moment] “the depart-ment will …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Oh, yes, please, thank you.
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, the Member asked a question regarding ISO 9000 which is a Risk Management Framework or Compliance Framework. Unfortunately, the certification was not available at the time the initiating department saw it. It was also costly to become certifi ed in that …
The Chairman Chairman Please hold for a minute, please, Member. For the benefit of the listening public, we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. Minister Honourable Jason P. Hayward is re-sponding to riveting questions from MP Jarion Richard-son on Head …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Members. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Another question was regarding the performance measures, zero per cent for reduc-tion in ABU’s [Able Bodies Unemployed] . What we recognise is that during the pandemic we saw more able-bodied persons coming onto Financial Assistance, it was just …
The Chairman Chairman MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, I thank the Honourable Minister who responded about the employment plans and the phase of the Financial Assistance Reform. Also, the Honourable Minister just mentioned some of the emotional and mental impacts with employment and we note my earlier question that said there would be psychosocial assessments done. My …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Richardson
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Also, [I am] happy to proceed but I want to make sure that we do not lose sight of the outstanding query on Head 4, specifically [page] B -176 on the general summary, the 22 per cent decrease i n funding for business unit 24020. [I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman and I thank the Honourable Minister. I have further — Hon. Jas on Hayward: Just a point of clarification. I believe the brief highlighted that the psychosocial assess-ments will be done for all clients except for pensioners when needed. Like I said, once they have been …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman and I thank the Honourable Minister. That is an ever -so-slight change from the Hansard, but certainly something that we will keep an eye on as we go into another budget, if I am here, anyway, or the Minister. With that said, . . . oh, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Did you say page C -16?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Page C -13. We see, Mr. Chairman, under Financial Assistance, capital acquisitions, there is a Financial Assis-tance IT project for whic h $95,000 was allocated in last year’s [budget] but the revised estimate shows that it was not spent. Can the Honourable Minister speak to the Financial Assistance IT project …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP. Honourable Minister. [Pause]
Mr. Jarion Richardson I can also ask more questions.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, perhaps if you could go on to the next question.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A general question, especially as it relates to the spending altogether. The cost -of-living crisis has 882 8 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly impacted all of us in Bermuda. And the Minister has alluded several times to a seeming increased need for …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Do you want to address the question on IT, or should we get the MP to put another question? Hon. Jason Hayward: As it pertains to capital expenditure, the question was why $90,000 was not in the re-vised estimate for 2022/23. This was actually an error. Actually …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. So, just for clarity, page C -13, line item 76696, Financial Assistance IT, under the column Revised Es-timate 2022/23, it should not be zero, it should be 95. Hon. Jason Hayward: That is correct, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman And under estimate 2023/24 that should still be zero. Hon. Jason Hayward: Correct, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Does anyone wish to . . . yes, MP Jarion Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, and I thank the Honourable Minister. Also, general questions, again, relating to the future plans . . . well, talking about next year. Two questions: What is the Government’s plan regarding pen-sioners increasing? The Minister has already gone on record talking about ageing demographics, and we are Bermuda …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The Member will see an increase of grants and that increase in grants would in-clude national uplift for an increase in pensioners. But that is a fluid category. And I say fluid because we have persons who are departing earth who were on …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Jarion Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman and I thank the Honourable Minister. A few more questions, two more questions, and I believe one outstanding is I would ask the Minister to speak to the portfolio for each officer and how many additional consultants and vendors are assisting those officers. Hon. Jason Hayward: …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman and I thank the Honourable Minister. My last two questions under here . . . the Minister noted that social workers are detecting incidences of hoarding and OCD and other mental illnesses which can sometimes result in the awardees getting negative effects, including being kicked out …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I went into great detail to explain the number of collaborative engage-ments that the social work department is doing with ex-ternal agencies to support the population, whether it be with MWI and other groups —Probation Services , Teen Haven, Men’s Treatment Centre, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP just for a moment . . . Honourable Members and members of the listening public, we are in Commit-tee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the budgetary year 2023/24. We are currently in a debate on the Depart-ments of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Jarion Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would follow up with two questions. Would the Honourable Minister be able to comment on the mental health support for the actual social workers instead of the clients (he answered about the clients)? Also, the Honourable Minist er mentioned his appeal at one point to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you MP. Honourable Minister, if you care to answer those two questions under Head 55. Hon. Jason Hayward: Each client of F inancial Assistance has a caseworker assigned to them. And that caseworker would be known to the client and those other persons who are directly in relation to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and the question about the support for the social work-ers. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I am waiting for that information.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. While the Minister is waiting for that answer, does any other Member wish to put questions to the Minister in respect of the H eads 14, 55, 60? Hon. Jason Hayward: So, Mr. Chairman, the answer to that question came in.
The Chairman Chairman Please. Hon. Jason Ha yward: The support that we have for social workers is EAP [Employee Assistance Pro-gramme] as the primary. But if they need support out-side of EAP then that help can be provided to those social workers as well. We also have a hotline for Fi-nancial Assistanc e …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Does any Member wish to speak to H eads 14, 55 or 60? Yes, MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That completes my questions under Head 55. I am happy to proceed to Head 60, Workforce Development. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Yes, which for those following along is page B -186 of the Budget Book. Please proceed when you’re ready MP.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This was actually a difficult one to scrutinise these estimates. The PATI statement for this depart-ment is almost 10 years old and includes things that have changed in legislation significantly, including La-bour Relations Department and this team reporting to Home Affairs. So, this was a great …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, please.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. On 18 June 2021, in the House of Assembly , the Minister highlighted some of the initiatives of P hase 1 of the Re- Employment Strategy. It included things like 13 new training, career development and employment programmes; 650 persons participated in a number of programmes, et cetera. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP. Honourable Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, in my budget brief I went into great detail highlighting some of the pri-mary areas of focus for Phase 3. So, I will just try to find that page so I can . . .
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. As the Minister is looking for that information, just to remind those lis tening that this is a four -hour debate concluding at 7:55 pm. MP, perhaps if you have a further question while the Minister is finding that answer. Hon. Jason Hayward: So, Phase 3—
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead. Hon. Jason Hayward: I will just re -read that paragraph “The Department will continue to execute the imple-mentation of Phase 3 of the Workforce Development Reemployment Strategy, aimed at reducing unemploy-ment. This strategy in alignment with the Government’s platform initiat ives and [Ministry] priorities is designed to implement …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Yes, MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I definitely agree with the Honourable Minister. That is exactly what I am looking for. My problem in as-sessing right now the department’s objectives, and to be clear we are talking about the House authorising a spend of $4.1 million and the Department of Workforce …
The Chairman Chairman I see the Minister is on his feet. Yes, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Just as a matter of clarity, when we talk about phases, Phase 3 does not hav e to be fundamentally different from a lot of the work that we have done in Phase 2. For example, if …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. 886 8 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you. And I thank the Honourable Minister for that clarification. My next set of questions will relate quite specifically to line items in the Budget Book. More specifically I will start with the general summary of current account estimates. The Chair man: This is page B -187?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Page B -188.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Subjective analysis of current account estimates, where I see that energy . . . the department is anticipating an increase in energy of 63 per cent. And I am not sure where that comes from, or how we got to that number. So, I would like the Minister to speak …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Richardson. Honourable Minister, those are questions on page B -188 under subjective analysis. And then page B-191 under business unit 70300 and 70400. You have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: The logical answer I can provide to the Honourable Member regarding energy costs is that right now …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My next question is in relation to business unit (on the same page B -191) 70400—
The Chairman Chairman That is career development?
Mr. Jarion Richardson That is career development, but it is also in reference to the objectives of this de-partment as outlined on page B -186. My question is in relation to the youth employment strategy. With your permission I will read from last year’s Hansard, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, please proceed.
Mr. Jari on Richardson Last year the Honourable Minister briefed the House that the department will con-tinue to implement Phases 2 and 3 of the . . . oh sorry, here we go, “The department will continue to . . . implement the Youth Employment Strategy.” When I look at the youth employment strategy …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP. Honourable Minster, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Just to give an update of some of the training that I have been informed will take place in Phase 3: certified administrative assistant programmes, certified cleaning programme, and training for construction workers. They will take place in …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Hayward. Does any Member wish to speak to H eads 14, 55 or 60? Yes, MP Jarion Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, I just wanted to compliment the Minister on the objective and performance measures actually containing refe rence to linking to Ministerial Statements and briefings. It is very helpful to see and to read a management report that actually con-nects dots instead of , a lot of time, is just …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry, MP, can I just press you? You are on page B -191 under business unit 70400?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Which are the missing ones? Are you talking about the bottom of the page, sort of five or six blocks there? Mr. Jarion Richardson: Yes, there are just blanks there.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. Minister, do you see that page? Hon. Jason Hayward: Certainly. What would happen is that we did not have performance measures for that particular period. So, these performance measures are new performance measures that we have been target-ing outcomes for 2023/24, notwithstanding that the youth employment strat …
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed. Hon. Jason Hayward: —in alignment with the youth employment strategy, and the three initiatives are: high school students for transition to the workforce (we want to work direct ly with the high schools to provide programmes for those individuals); the Bacardi Shake Your Future programme; and we will …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Does anyone wish to speak to H eads 14, 55 and 60, Department of Statistics, Financial Assistance and Workforce Development? Yes, MP Jarion Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have questions relating directly to the Budget Book, again, bear with me . . . yes, I will start here. Mr. Chairman, as I mentioned , the PATI statement has not been updated. Quite a few times the Min-ister spoke to persons that I just …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP. Minister. Hon. Jason H ayward: Mr. Chairman, the standards and enforcement officers are responsible for the admin-istration of activities in alignment with the national cer-tification programme.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Jarion Richardson. Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My questions will relate to page B -190, specifically business unit 70014, training administration. Ac-tually, I will start with 70000, administration. I note that the performance objective on this page is to support the operations of the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Further, requesting clarification from the Minister on business unit, training administration 70014. The performance on page B -190, or measure, is input initial client’s case data into the Career Information Develop-ment System within two working days of receipt. The target outcome is five working days. I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. MP, while you are on your feet you may get the same answer as the last one so if you have a few ques-tions —
Mr. Jarion Richardson I’ll keep going—
The Chairman Chairman —I will take them. And we will see when the Minister stands up. We will defer to him, yes? Mr. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I note under training administration that one of the measurements is to arrange monthly meetings of the board in committee, and they say …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, I see the Minister is on his feet. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: I have the provided answers t o the question regarding the five business days.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, that’s at page B -190. Hon. Jason Hayward: Correct. The department was able to consolidate administrative procedures and also have a dedicated financial manager so that this was able to improve turnaround times. I am waiting on clar-ification about the discrepancy between two days and five days and the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, that is at page B -191 under [business unit] 70400, career devel opment . Hon. Jason Hayward: The question regarding monthly meetings, and there only being 10 and not 12. Meetings are not held in the months of August and December.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Mr. Chairman, my only outstanding question, other than the ones for Head 60, still relates to Head 14 where we were waiting on . . . I believe it’s Head 14—
The Chairman Chairman Statistics?
The Chairman Chairman The Minister is on his feet. Hon. Jason Hayward: That 22 per cent relates to staffing so it is directly related to the allocating of funding regarding staffing. But then there are two separate things. There is the reduction of debt and then there is a differential in terms of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. I think that answer was in relation to Head 14, Statistics. Is that correct? It was about employee numbers at page B -175?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. And MP Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion R ichardson Mr. Chairman, that is it for my questions and presentation this evening. However, I will wait on the Minister for those responses on page B - 190 and B -191.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Richardson. Does any other Member . . . Oh, I see the Minister is on his feet. Yes Minister. You have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes, I am wondering if we can close off the debate and I can endeavour to get those answers to the …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, I just wanted to conclude the presentation by thanking the Minister for answering the questions. I will defer and wait for the answers to come, and I wish him the best of luck with his Ministry for this fiscal period.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, that makes great sense. [Minister], thank you for offering to undertake to provide MP Richardson with the answers to the re-maining questions. And I think i t just leaves you to move your heads then. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move Heads 14, 55 and 60 be approved …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 14, 55 and 60 be approved as printed. Is there any objection to the motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Economy and Labour, Heads 14, 55, and 60, were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister, that concludes the debate on Statistics, Financial Assistance and Workforce Development, Heads 14, 55, and 60. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committe e rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, The Committee shall rise and report progress. [Motion carried: The Committee agreed to rise and re-port progress and sought leave to sit again.] [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman I do not have a bell, I’m sorry. [Gavel]
The Chairman Chairman There we go. Members, we have just concluded the debate and a motion has been made by the Honourable Prem-ier to rise and report progress. And that motion has been agreed to. So, we are just waiting, as we conclude the Chairing of the B udget Debate, and the Speaker …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister have they moved for . . . [Inaudible interjection]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The next order of business is the second reading of the Public Holidays Amendment and Validation Act [2023], and it is w ith the Premier, the Honourable David Burt. You have the floor, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good evening, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I move that the Bill entitled the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue. BILL SECOND READING PUBLIC HOLIDAYS AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2023 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Bill before this Honourable House amends the Public Holidays Act 1947 to make proclamations made by the Governor under the Act subject to the negative resolution procedure …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a comment? Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have no objections to the legislation. We studied it care-fully and we just have one question in regard to retro-activity feature …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. House in Committee at 7:07 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL PUBLIC HOLIDAYS AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2023
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Public Holidays Amendment and Validation Act 2023 . Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask to move clauses 1 through 4.
The Chairman Chairman You may continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Clause 1 provides the citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends section 4 of the principal Act to renumber the existing provision as subsection (1) and to insert a new subsection (2) which provides that proclamations made under subsection (1) shall …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. Are there any further speakers? There appear to be none. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly I move that clauses 1 through 4 be approved and stand part of the Bill.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 4 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 4 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. I call on Mr. Speaker. [Motion carried: The Public Holidays Amendment and Validation Bill 2023 …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled Public Holidays Amendment and Vali-dation Act 2023 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported. Premier, since all other matters are being carried [forward], would you like to do your third reading on that? …
The Speaker The Speaker Do your third readings and then we will do the introduction of the other. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled the Bill enti-tled Public …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objection? There is none, continue. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING PUBLIC HOLIDAYS AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2023 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the Bill entitled the Public Holidays Amendment and Validation Act 2023 be now read for the third …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Public Holidays Amendment and Validation Act 2023 was read a third time and passed.] SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 14
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are going to ask for the indulgence of the Hous e for additional Bills to be tabled that were not here for this morning when we were on the section of Bills being laid. If the House will [grant] indulgence, we will have the Bills tabled at this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 14 suspended.] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am taking communications that I think you advised about. May I pro-ceed? The Speaker: It’s the Bills, right? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Right.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I just want to make sure— 892 8 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes, go ahead. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I don’t want to do it without your indulgence. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE MARINE AND …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, continue. MARINE AND PORTS (SEABORNE SERVICES) REGULATIONS 2023 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended to enable me to pre-sent a communication to the Hous e with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution I have …
The Speaker The Speaker Correct. Thank you. Premier. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2023 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended to enable me to introduce a Bill to this Honourable House. I introduce the following Bill which according to section …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Continue. PUBLIC TREASURY (ADMINISTRATION AND PAYMENTS) AMENDMENT ACT 2023 Hon. E. David Burt: I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended to enable me to introduce a Bill to this Hon-ourable House. I introduce the following Bills so that they can be placed on the Order Paper for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Proceed. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO HOUSE GOVERNMENT FEES AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2023 Hon. E. David Burt: I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended to enable me to present a communication to the House. With the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Consti-tution …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. These all have been done under the suspended [Standing Order] for the moment. Now, Mr. Premier, would you like to move us through Friday? ADJOURNMENT Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable house now adjourn until Friday the 10th of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any Member wish to speak? Deputy Speaker, let me set the clock for you and turn 20 minutes on. HOSPITAL REDUNDANCIES Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my travels today I got a call from a very distraught parent informing me …
The Speaker The Speaker True. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: And we are faced with the cost of getting this food here and then it is much more expensive for us because when a ship brings in food, they travel back empty. That is a cost to us, the importers of that product. Yes, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I would like to speak about the Fairmont Southampton Hotel, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go a head. FAIRMONT SOUTHAMPTON HOTEL
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Last night several members of our caucus were invited to the Fairmont South-ampton so that we could have a presentation on what they have planned for there. Now you will know, Mr. Speaker, that many of us have waited with great anticipation to see some movement on that project. We …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch You are going tomorrow? Good. Hopefully you will be as excited I am and we were, in that room last night, Mr. Speaker. I have been in favour of this project since the very beginning, since the hotel closed, that we should negotiate whatever is required in order to get …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Signature school.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Signature school. I knew it began with an “s.” The next si gnature school is going to be hospitality. Therefore, there will be opportunities for those people to be employed in the industry, and Fairmont has indicated that they will be first in line looking to em-ploy them, to support …
The Speaker The Speaker [No microphone 05:43:16]
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade I would speak, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to add a few things to our —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Your microphone isn’t on. FAIRMONT SOUTHAMPTON HOTEL
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade I just wanted to add a few things to what [Minister] Colonel Burch said, which I thought was important [when] following right after. First of all, in the presentation, one of the things that they did say was that they would be sending Bermudi-ans overseas to train them. So, they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? Opposition Whip. Opposition Whip, you have your 20 minutes.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Government Whip. Government.
The Speaker The Speaker I mean Government Whip. I am sorry.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Government Whip.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you for the opportunity, Mr. Speaker. I really had no intent on speaking tonight certainly [not] on a conversation that you know I had earlier —
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. CONTROVERSY OVE R MINISTER’S COMMENTS IN HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell You know that I had no intention to speak because the duties of the Government Whip distract me from doing things behind the scenes. So, I had not even prepared myself to speak. So, I will be brief. I am going to go along the lines of my colleague who …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Swan. CONTROVERSY OVER MINISTER’S COMMENTS IN HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I feel duty - bound to just weigh in a little bit on a subject I know very well. Through golf I would have had practice in how division is manifested. I am just going to cast our minds back to December 2, [2016]. A report was done …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Right. That was one of our visionaries who had put that . . . and during the buoyancy no one was reckoning [it was] a global recession. And so, the workers of this country got short -stripped because when the union realised that the country was in trouble, the first …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Absolutely. But you have to know who your people are, what your foundation is built on, and not be ashamed of it. Make something better of it because there are some persons who are beneficiaries of some things that oppressed other people. And we have to do better. Take a …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I can do it one minute. Walter Robinson. Walter Lister.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is two.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Stanley Lowe.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is three.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Reginald Boris.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is four.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Dame Lois Browne- Evans.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is five.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Freddy Wade. Ottiwell Simmons. [Those are] the seven that stood firm, stood strong on the backs and the 60 th anniversary. I used to go to Berkeley. And although I was a young man, I knew I wanted to be in politics. I used to look from Somerset and count …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Premier, you have your 20 minutes. CONTROVERSY OVER MINISTER’S COMMENTS IN HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And it is good to certainly be in the House tonight. We have heard a few things on the motion to ad-journ today. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Premier, thank you for your contributions tonight. Members, everyone is trying to get a chuckle, but I am going to avoid that one. Everyone have a good evening. Get rested up. We will see you back here at 10:00 am on Friday morning. [Gavel] [At 8:35 pm, the House …
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