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House of Assembly Session 2022/2023 225 speeches

March 1, 2023

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Session Summary

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This was primarily a budget session where Health Minister Kim Wilson presented the Ministry of Health's budget for 2023/24, totaling $10.3 million for headquarters operations. The session began with Attorney General Kathy Lynn Simmons reporting that revenge porn laws passed in 2021 are working, with few adult cases but some concerning incidents among young people since COVID-19. Members also shared condolences for recently deceased community members including Grace Washington, Brian Morris, and others, plus congratulations for cricket player Leverock's century and Black History Month honorees.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 1, 2023
Session 2022/2023
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Speakers 15
Speeches 225

Key Topics

Budget debate for the Ministry of Health for 2023/24 (5 hours allocated)Update on revenge porn legislation and prosecutionsCondolences and congratulations for community membersUniversal Health Coverage implementation progressBermuda Health Council activities and grants

Bills & Motions

Motion to go into Committee of Supply to consider 2023/24 budget estimates - approved
No new bills were introduced or voted on; this was a budget presentation session
Health Ministry budget presentation began but was not completed (continuing with remaining 3 hours for Social Development and Seniors)

Notable Moments

Attorney General reported revenge porn prosecutions are rare among adults but increasing among youth since the pandemic
Health Minister announced $500,000 funding increase for overseas medical care through the Lady Cubitt Compassionate Association
Multiple MPs paid tribute to longtime community members who recently passed away, including teachers, bus drivers, and healthcare workers

Debate Transcript

225 speeches from 15 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. Ms. Beale will now lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Good morning, Members . Our House is now in session. [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 24 February 2023 ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of the 24th of February [2023] have been circulated. Are there any amendments or corrections ? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. Thank you. The Minutes from the 27th of February have been deferred. [Minutes of 24 February 2023 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM T …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker The announcements this morning are that Members have indicated that they will not be pr esent today. The following are absent today: Premier [Burt], Minister Hayward, MP Lister, MP Wade MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no ne. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIO R MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker There is one Statement this morning from Madam Attorney General. Madam, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Good morning, Mr. Speaker , and thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. UPDATE ON REVENGE PORN Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, following concerns raised by campaigners and parliamentarians about behaviour known as revenge pornography, the Government created a new criminal offence to ensure that this behaviour is fully captured by the cri minal law. Revenge pornography is a broad …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorn ey General. Members, that is the only Statement for this morning. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Madam Attorney General, the Opposition Leader has a question for you. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON REVENGE PORN Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: First of all, I would like to say that I support you 100 per cent. I have just a couple of questions. Can you provide details on …
The Speaker The Speaker Madam Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I have no information to share with the House this morning about the Internet Crime Prevention Team. But I can certainl y undertake to provide that for the Member.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. My second question—
The Speaker The Speaker Second question or supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: My second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. QUESTION 2: U PDATE ON REVENGE PORN Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: As far as the legislative process is concerned, do you have . . . is a charge initiated by reporting an incident? Or can it be done proactively as a result of trolling the Internet? Bermuda House …
The Speaker The Speaker I think what you are trying to get to is does a complaint have to be made, or if the authority sees a site can they act on it? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: [Inaudible, no microphone] Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: When the information is provided to the DPP she …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question? QUESTION 3: UPDATE ON REVENGE PORN Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Where can victims and fa mily of victims go to secure mental health support in government should they be impacted by this, even if they have not reported anything? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, all me …
The Speaker The Speaker No supplementaries? This brings us a close of Question Period for this morning. We will now move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to participate in the congratulatory speeches this morning? MP Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker One second. Minister Weeks, the Member wants to speak behind you. MP Swan, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, good mor ning, and good morning to the listening audience. I would like to be associated with a couple of condolences offered in my absence recently. Ms. Esther Harvey from Wellington Slip Road. Condolences were extended by the Honourable Member from Devonshire earlier in the week, and I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourab le Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Ming. You have your three minutes. Good morning.
Ms. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker and listening audience. I would like to send thoughts and prayers out to the family of Grace Washington fr om Queen Street in St. George’s . Most of us who knew her knew her as Aunt Grace. She has encouraged many of us even in this …
The Speaker The Speaker I think you are actually associating, because it may have been done on Monday —
Ms. Renee Ming Yes, I am a ssociating —
The Speaker The Speaker So you’re associating yourself on Mo nday’s.
Ms. Renee Ming —Member Cole Simons, and also MP Kim Swa n. I would also like to send belated birthday wishes to Mr. Robert K. Horton who celebrated his 75 th birthday yesterday. He’s a Somerset guy, but for us Berkeleyites he is definitely one who we have all had some contact with, …
The Speaker The Speaker The entire House.
Ms. Renee Ming —and it goes on. The entire House would like to w ish RKH a happy 75th birthday. And while I am on the same Horton tip, Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate the recipient s of the Black History awardees on Saturday evening at Hamilton Princess Hotel. And that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Ming. MP Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, I would like to send condolences to the family of Mr. Gary Edwin MacNeil Simons. He was a bus driver for a number of years, and a member of the Salvation Army Church, a sta lwart in our community. You could see his friendly face on the bus …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Mr. Tyrre ll, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank you. Good morning colleagues and liste ning audience. Mr. Speaker, on a sad note, let me start with asking for condolences to be sent for the late Ms. Ruth Naom i Thomas, a constituent of mine on Smiths Avenue. Ms. Thomas was the sort …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Trust me, it did. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Dunkley, you have your three minutes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to colleagues. I am sure the Honourable House would like to be associated with these congratulations, but congratulations to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? None other? Then before we move on, I woul d just like to add my remarks to those expressed today, to the honourees of this year’s Black History Month sponsored by the Princess Hotel, the …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTAN CE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are now at the point where we start the Orders of the Day. As everyone knows, and again for our listening audience, we are in the annual budget session. Today, as always, there are eight hours allotted for the debate on the respective ministries and depar t576 1 …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I move t hat the House do now resume in the Committee of Supply to consider the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for [2023/24].
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are no objections. Mr. Pearman. House in Committee at 1 0:27 am [Mr. Scott Pearman, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2023/24
The Chairman Chairman Good morning Honourable Member s and members of the listening public. We are now in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the years 2023/24. Today we have the Ministry of Health, Heads 21, 22, 24 and 91, which I believe are …
The Chairman Chairman It is now 10:27, which I believe means we finish at around 4:57 or thereabouts. Thank you. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Good morning, Mr . Chairman. I move that the following Heads: Head 21, Ministry of Health Headquarters; Head 22, Depar tment of Health; Head 24, Hospitals; and …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, is this a convenient place to pause? Or do you want to take us through to another point in your brief? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: It may be a convenient — 594 1 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Cha irman: I am in your …
The Chairman Chairman Perfect. If that’s convenient for you. Honourable Members and members of the listening public, we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2023/24. This is the debate on the budget for the Ministry of Health and we are hearing from the …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections? So moved; we adjourn for lunch until 2:00 pm. Thank you, Honourable Members. Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2:03 pm [Mr. Chris topher Famous , Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Honourable Members and the listening public. We are now in the Committee of Supply for further considering of the Est imates and Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24, Head 22. We are now going to debate it. I call upon the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, please. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Residents are reminded ho wever that the best way to limit rodent numbers is t o deny rodents access to food sources such as garbage by using metal trash containers with lids and not putting trash out on non- pickup days. To reiterate this …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you may proceed to the next Head. HEAD 24 —HOSPITALS Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Chairman, tur ning now to Hospitals, which is Head 24. It can be found in the Budget Book on pages B -165 to B -166. Mr. Chairman, the Bermuda Hospitals Board (or BHB) delivers …
The Chairman Chairman Excuse me, Minister. Would you r epeat that? I couldn’ t hear that. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Sure. I would note that the BHB’s financial statements have been audited up to fiscal 2019/20. These have all received clean, unqual ified audits. The annual report for the fiscal year 2017/18 is …
The Chairman Chairman For the benefit of the listening public and Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for f urther consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24, Mini stry of Health. And we are now debating Head 24. Minister, you may proceed. Primary Stroke Centre …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister, for that hard work. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Men can get breast cancer too. Mr. Chairman, a key focus is also to have a better safety net of care options with the community to better manage health issues in the community, avoi ding costly and …
The Chairman Chairman Members, speak to the Chair. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: The repurposed residence will respect the historical nature of the property. It will also provide 24 hour, state- of-the-art treatment for those requiring mental health services, as well as community support from St. James Church congregants. Mr. Chairman, you can read …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you may want to repeat that for those who have not heard about that. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Okay. 602 1 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly As I was saying, Mr. Chairman, as part of the MWI Directorate Plan, they are moving services closer to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. We are going to pause for a quick second. For the benefit of the listening public and my fellow Honourable Members, we are now in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24, Mini stry of Health. …
The Chairman Chairman For the benefit of the listening public, this debate is going to end at 4:57. It is now 3:00 pm. And at 4:00 pm there will be a change of [the Chai rman]. Integrated Health Clinic One-Year Anniversary Hon. Kim N. Wilson: BHB celebrated the first year of the Integrat …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. For the listening public and my Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2023/24. The Minister, Honourable Kim Wilson, has completed Head 24. You may continue. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman One minute, Minister. For the listening public, this debate will end at 4:57, and in 30 minutes there will be a change of chairman. You may continue, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 606 1 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Turning now to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. For the benefit of the listening public we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2023/24. The Honourable Kim Wilson, the M inister of Health has completed her presentation. And now I suspect the Opposition wishes to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Honourable Michael Dunkley. You have the floor. Hon. Mich ael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will start out by thanking the Honourable Minister for her presentation. I won’t say brief, because it was not brief. But I thank the Minister for her very thorough presentation today on …
The Chairman Chairman Was that a pun intended? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Well, sometimes the mind works in interesting ways. I am trying to keep up with the Minister’s humour in what often gets to be a m onotonous debate or can get to be contentious. But, it is certainly very interesting to …
The Chairman Chairman Excuse me, Member. Inasmuch as your presentation is very enlightening, unfortunately I have to give up this Chair for the Honourable Scott Simmons who will now take on the Chair for this debate— Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Can you just repeat that, please?
The Chairman Chairman Inasmuch as your presentation is extremely enlightening, unfortunately, I have to give up the Chair for the Honourable Scott Simmons. So, for the benefit of my H onourable co lleagues and the listening public, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Est imates of Revenue …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Chairman Famous. Honourable Members, we are now in Commi ttee of Supply for further consideration of the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. That would be Heads 21, 22, 24 and 91. As the former Chair mentioned, the Honourable and Learned Member, the Minister …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-mm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: If you take a look at this new office of the Programme Management, and if you take a look at the functions of the Bermuda Health Council, some of their roles overlap or seem to be interlocking or some of them seem to be of …
The Chairman Chairman You remain under 31000 or — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, I am going down a couple of rows.
The Chairman Chairman That’s fine. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am going to Grants and Administration, 31015 . . . the Minister outlined the increase to $4.1 million and th e extra $500,000 to LCCA. And the LCCA has always done great work. And the Minister said that some of it was due …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-mm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It is working pretty good like this.
The Chairman Chairman It is. Carry on. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Exceptional, exceptional circumstances. Yes, the Minister’s words. Minister, also, you said the SARC, the Sexual Assault Resource [Centre] was $6,000 but then the Minister said something about $61,000. So, if the Mi nister can clarify that at some time. I …
The Chairman Chairman It is a reality for us in the West End. [Laughter] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you very much. But back to all seriousness, Mr. Chairman, we want to make sure that if we open something for the good and the benefit of our community we continue to make sure …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-mm. Hon. Michael H . Dunkley: Very hard to take back. Now, staying on that grant on page C -18, you will see that that grant , Mr. Chairman, for the Health Council is $1 million. But now if you reflect back to the Honourable Minister’s comments during her present …
The Chairman Chairman And where was that Honourable Member? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: That was the $1 million grant that was given.
The Chairman Chairman What page are you on? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Minister gave some edification on money that the Health Council raised from the Mutual Reinsurance Fund and licensing fees and registration fees.
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Minister is shaking her head. So, there is budget of $4.3 million and last year the budget was $3.1 million. The Health Council is getting a $1.2 million increase, roughly, to do their regulation, to do their quality and standards, and all the different …
The Chairman Chairman I will let the Shadow Minister just pause for a second. He will probably get a glass or just have a . . . give him a minute to just pause. Members, we are now in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, sir. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, as I move off the National Health Plan, because time is running tight and I can’t cover everything that I would like to cover, to me the two main issues were to make sure that we have universal health care so those …
The Chairman Chairman You have moved to Head 24? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Head 24, yes —
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, sir. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —page B -165. The Chair man: No, go right ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. We have a financial situation that is very concerning. If you look at the hospital over the past two years, it has been $15 million over …
The Chairman Chairman There are about 22 minutes left in the debate. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. I don’t think most people appreciate and realise that every year the hospital has to make $42 mi llion of debt payments, give or take a bit, in three di fferent ways. So, for 2023 …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Honourable Shadow Minister. Would any other Member like to speak to these heads? I recognise the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Ho n. N. H. Col e Simons: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would first like to begin by thanking the Mi nister …
The Chairman Chairman Surely, you have complimented the Minister of Health? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I did.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You said “Finance.”
The Chairman Chairman You said the “Minister of Finance.” But that is all right — Hon. N. H. Co le Simons: Sorry.
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, Honourable Shadow [sic] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: My humblest apologies.
The Chairman Chairman Opposition Leader, I apologise. Go right ahead. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. You have upset me now . . . giving complim ents—
The Chairman Chairman You were upsetting me. 618 1 March 2023 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly [Laughter] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Let me just say this. Based on what I have just heard the [$322 million] annual obligation and the current guarantee obligation of $758 million, we are talking …
The Chairman Chairman And you are where, Opposition Lea der? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Page C -18. That is the grant to the hospital.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons : I will go there if you will just allow me. Last year . . . it says, in December it took 442 minutes to get a bed assignment from emergency and an average of 596 minutes to be admitted to the ward. So …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, the Honourable Oppos ition Leader. Would any other Member wish to speak to this motion? I recognise the Honourable Member Ms. Simmons -Wade. Ms. Simmons -Wade, you have the floor. There is about seven minutes left in this debate.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I would like to disclose that I was a former board chair member of the hospital and I am also a member of the hospital board. As was stated, I have a few questio ns but a couple of comments. We …
The Chairman Chairman Nursing is on what page, Honourable Member?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Okay. Sorry. I don’t have it in front of me.
The Chairman Chairman I need to remind Members that when you do refer in Committ ee it would be good if you mention the heads that you have, all the pages to which you refer.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, go ahead.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade I am very sorry. It is going to be very difficult for this hospital in this country to compete with recruitment of nurses. Other countries are offering three months’ rent, six months’ salary. So in closing, my final question is . . . no, my final comment actually, is to …
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade None of us will desert it. But the reality is if you want improved quality care, if you are going to constantly be contacting Dr. Goggle in terms of what you need, it is going to cost more money for this hospital because we have to buy more equipment and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak to this motion? There is no ot her Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable and Learned Mi nister of Health. Minister, you have the floor. 620 1 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Kim …
The Chairman Chairman Four minutes. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. —go through this as quickly as possible. One of the questions that was asked by the Opposition Leader, which I want to start with, which is with respect to the person that . . . the husband . . . that particular …
The Chairman Chairman We are there, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wil son: —which represents $6,000 plus [$]55[,000] for the nurse.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Honourable and Learned Minister. You can go ahead with your move to approve. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 21, 22, 24 and 91 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 21, 22, 24 and 91 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Health Heads 21, 22, 24 and 91 were approved and stand part of the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman This ends the debate on the Ministry of Health, Heads 21, 22, 24 and 91. Honourable Members, we are now in the Committee of Supply for the further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24.
The Chairman Chairman We are Heads 86 and 23 under the Social Development and Seniors are now to be debated. That will be the Honourable Member Tinee Furbert. Honourable Minister, you have the floor. [Inaudible interjection]
The Chairman Chairman By all means. Members, this is under Head 86 and 23. It is set for three hours, and the time will be set from now and it will conclude at 7:59 or 8:00, at 8:00 pm. I recognise the Honourable Minister. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 86 and 23 be now taking into consideration. Go ahead, Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly MINISTRY OF SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SENIORS Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to present the fiscal year 2023 /24 budget estimates for the …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, we will pause just to remind Members that we are now in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24 under the Mini stry of Social Development and Seniors. Those heads are Heads 86 and 23. You may proceed. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. And just to remind Members that we are in the Committee of Suppl y for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24, and we have doing Heads 86 and 23. Carry on, Minister. HEAD 23 —DEPARTMENT OF CHILD AND …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, just pause briefly as we just do a change of Chairman. I recognise the Honourable Derrick Burgess, the Deputy Speaker of the House, who will now Chair the Committee. [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Good evening. You may continue, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman the assessment team receives referrals internally from within DCFS and externally, from the Family Court and Supreme Court. Service provision entails three main areas —individual a ssessments (child and/or adult); family assessments; and consultations. Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Members, can you keep it quiet a bit? Folks are having problems hearing. Thank you. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, for the calendar year January through December 2022, the Family Preservation team served a combined total of 143 families and 232 children. Caseload complexities and risk levels remained high throughout …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Heads 86 and 23? I recognise Member Jackson. Member Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Madam Chai rman. 638 1 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly That was a wonderful, comprehensive and thorough brief that the Minister gave and I much appreciate that. I, too, would like to give full credit to the staff within her Ministry. Having had the …
The Chairman Chairman Member, can I just make a suggestion to you? And I think you are trying to do a very good job in trying to keep everything in context as it relates to the heads that you mentioned, but I think that perhaps maybe you should put some of that as …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, I would like to ask the Minister what is being done, or what can be done to make our nursing homes (in particular) and our rest homes more cost -efficient? What can be done to i mprove the sustainability of rest homes and nursing homes (in particular) that are …
The Chairman Chairman Is this a point of order, Minister? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, a point of order, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Tinee Furbert: Just to say that the target outcome was 90.
The Chairman Chairman Is 90, exactly. Okay. Thank you. Member, do you wish to continue?
The Chairman Chairman Fine.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So the target outcome, but we are still looking at, and if we look at the actuals on page B -285— if we look at the actual outcomes for 2021/22, we are still seeing a total of 84 seniors who have had reports of physical abuse, psychological abuse, sexual abuse, …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, where are you? I have just come back. Excuse me.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. I am on page B -283, 96040, Ageing and Disability Services.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, there is a r eport of $980,000 for Ageing and Disability Services for this year, which is up $171,000. And we are clearly down on staff, and prices are going up as far as maint enance, administration, operations. I would like to ask the Minister how she is hoping …
The Chairman Chairman Member, what business head are you—
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am on page—I am just speaking to the head, the general Head 86.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, but there has got to be a—
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Page B -282.
The Chairman Chairman No, I understand that. But there has got to be a business unit that you need to be talking to because it is not in the statement head.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Right. But the Children’s Commission comes under the Ministry Headquarters.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. But it has got to still be tied to a business unit. That is how we can follow.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I will move on.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Susan E. Jackson: So page B -283, 96070 . . . I will move on fro m that one. We can switch over to page C -21.
The Chairman Chairman Page C -21.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson [Programme] 6932. So this year the Minister has introduced the Centre Against Abuse. And I am just wondering whether the Minister might be able to give us an ind ication of how she is hoping to partner a little bit, what her intentions are for partnership and coordination with the …
The Chairman Chairman Are you talking about health insurance?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Health insurance, yes. [Pause]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I would now like to move over to Head 23, Child and Family Services, page B - 288. Under 33070, the Brangman Home, if the Mini ster could just give us an indication . . . she had mentioned that children will age out, transition away as they reach the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member Jackson. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member [Scott] Pearman. You have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thanks to the Honourable Minister. Honourable Minister, I caught both the begi nning and the end of your presentation, but I did miss a little bit of the middle. Therefore, I apologise if my very brief—I have three very quick questions. If you answered them …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member Pearman. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises Ms. Wade, the Honourable Member Simmons -Wade. You have the floor.
Mrs. Ianthia S immons -Wade Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. I just had a couple of questions, some of them were already asked, that we can get the answers on. In regard to Head 86, business unit 96040, I note that under the Ageing and Disability Services, the number of full -time employees remains constant. …
The Chairman Chairman What business unit are you on, Ms. Simmons -Wade?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Okay. I think it is page C-18.
The Chairman Chairman C-18?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes. The Chairman: Grants.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes. Page C -21.
The Chairman Chairman Okay.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade In regard to the su pport with the specific grants, I think most of the rest homes and actually all of the third sector certainly a ppreciates the support of the grants from the gover nment. It is c hallenging for everyone. I guess my question is whether or not …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Ms. Wade. Are there any further speakers? Yes, Ms. Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. I just have one or two other questions.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson As I was listening to the sort of duplicate of the Salvation Army, on page C -21, I had a similar question as well. And i t is fine. I am just curious how and why it is done this way. But 7056, Packwood Rest Home, on page C -21. …
The Chairman Chairman Where are you, on page B -288?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am on 33140.
The Chairman Chairman That is on page B -288?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson And that is page B -288.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson And my question is around the statistics, the data. Because one thing I really admire about Mirrors is that they have always had like amazing data, probably some of the best on the I s644 1 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly land. But one of my …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Ms. Jackson. Any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Tinee Fu rbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, everyone, for asking all of the questions. I do want to share that I had a long version and a short version of my brief. And Mirrors does have an extensive …
The Chairman Chairman I think what the Member asked was, How was it being analysed? Hon. Tinee Furbert: So they are continuing to analyse their data. It is still ongoing, as they are continuing to analyse data. Mr. Chairman, I just want to go to or create some clarity as it relates to …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. Tinee Furbert: And item number 7056. The reason that they are not included in the Rest Home line number is because that particular rest home was serviced under another Ministry before it transferred over to the Ministry of Social Development and Seniors. So they have their own line …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Minister, continue. Hon. Tinee Furbert: I want to speak to the National Senior Strategy because I do not take this very lightly. It is important for us to get it right. And to race it and [for it to] be something that [does not] work for us or something …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, that is it. That is it. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Okay. [Laughter] Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman If you want to move your heads, they are Head 23 and Head 86. Do you want to move them? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Okay. Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 86 and 23 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 23 and 86 be approved. Is there any objection to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion car ried: The Ministry of Social Development and Seniors Heads 23 and 86 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expend iture …
The Chairman Chairman Minister of Finance . . . Acting Pre mier. [Crosstalk] Hon. Tinee Fu rbert: Do you want me to do it?
The Chairman Chairman Either one of you can do it, but it is normally the Minister of Finance, or the Minister can report progress. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee rise and report progress and ask for l eave to sit again.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to that? Agreed. [Motion carried: The Committee agreed to rise and report progress and sought leave to sit again.] Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: I am going to ring the bell for the Speaker. Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 8:00 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. Are there any objections to our forwarding back to the House? There are none. The other items are being carried over? Deputy, none of the items are being done t oday? Okay, good. Would you like to move us into that goinghome period? ADJOURNMENT Hon. Walter H. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any Member wish to speak to that? None?
Mr. Christopher Famous Good evening, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, yes, yes. Let me just reset the clock here for you.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Give me one second. Let me get you reset here. You have got your 20 minutes on the clock,
Mr. Famous. Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I would like to defer to the Member from constituency 1 if you will allow.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Ming. Is this a St. George’s thing here tonight?
Mrs. Renee Ming That means you are going to have a good night, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, here we go. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Ming, you have your 20 minutes. DISADVANTAGES OF FIBRE PHONE SERVICE
Mrs. Renee Ming Surely. Mr. Speaker, thank you for allowing me this time to speak on something that is . . .well, everything is passionate to me most of the time, but in particular this one. It is fitting, though, because three weeks ago this was my prepared motion to adjourn. And unfort …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Ming. MP Famous, would you like to take your 20 minutes now, sir?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I will not be 20 minutes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Christopher Famous And I suspect after I say what I say today I may get kicked out of the PLP. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Cole, you put out a card for him, Cole? ADVICE FOR THE OBA
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, after last Fr iday—last Friday, you know, they say, that day —after they said that they were going to bring back the TA [travel authorisation] and after they said that they were going to tax people for health, I was like, Whoa. Then afterwards they said they did …
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, he has returned. Let the record show that the Opposition Leader has r eturned to the Chamber. We have a quorum. My first advice to the OBA: Embrace who you really are. No sense trying to say, We’re not the UBP. Because out of nine parliamentarians, six MPs and …
Mr. Christopher Famous Let us keep Cole. Ever ybody who wants to keep Cole as OBA Leader, tap your desk. [ Desk thumping]
Mr. Christopher Famous More importantly, Mr. Speaker, here is the thing. Despite what the public may think, the OBA and the PLP are not up here at each other’s throats every minute. We actually get along pretty well. There is this room upstairs called the Common Room that, two hours ago, any [person …
Mr. Christopher Famous So I say that in all honesty to the OBA. I know this has been a bad week for you guys, right? And it is not my place to make it worse for you. I am just giving you some advice how to moderate yourselves. [ Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher Famous I know. I understand. But you know, I am going to take one for the team, right? So, Mr. Speaker, to the lone OBA Member who is in the Chamber —
The Speaker The Speaker Well, well, well, we should not call out . . . nobody sits there every day. Mr. Christopher Famous: I did not call any names. The S peaker: We do not sit there all day. [ Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, no, no. Talk to me. Mr. Pearman, Mr. Pearman— [ Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker —Mr. Pearman, Mr. Pearman. Mr. F amous has the floor. Mr. Famous, Mr. Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker No need to single out Members. B ecause people are in and out all day. PLP FOUNDER'S DAY
Mr. Christopher Famous Okay. All right, Mr. Speaker. I am going to move on. Let us go to a little history lesson. Mr. Speaker, 870 miles to the southwest of us there is an island chain called the Bahama Islands. Anyone ever heard of them? Mr. Speaker, I recently had the privilege of …
Mr. Christopher Famous I said, No. Read the fine print. And on the fine print it says, Smith’s, Bermuda. Also they have down there CG Isles. Anyone know what that means? Colonial Insurance. So while they are telling us, Hey, you have nothing to do with Bahamas, those people are different from you. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Minister Weeks, would you like 20 minutes on the clock? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. MAKING BERMUDA SAFER Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, like the Me mber who just took his seat, he said his mom taught him not to kick someone when they are down; unfortunat ely I am on a simil ar tack as he is. Mr. Speaker, last …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, may I just make a comment ?, Will this be recovered in the budget? Or are you leaving that out of the budget, because if it’s going to be covered it would probably be best if you save it for the budget — Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Well—
The Speaker The Speaker —because now you are getting into cost centres and things about how you intend to spend your revenue . . . make your financial expenditures. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Well, I was trying not to get too . . . I just want to give an overview of something that …
The Speaker The Speaker I am just saying that I do not want you to get into your budget now at this time. That’s all. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I really don’t mind, but I think, Mr. Speaker, as much as I can I want to let the country know that this Government is …
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. All right. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, Corrections will be given the additional funding not only to upgrade their facility and the educational portion of addressing the needs of those who are incarcerated, we have 30 new officers that they will be trying to recruit, adverti sing. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Member? The House . . . Deputy, deputy. I am acknowledging you, because you beat everybody up, Deputy. You were on your feet, Deputy. I am acknowle dging the Deputy. Nobody else moved, …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, thank you, Deputy, I welcome that. Members, we now stand adjourned until Fr iday morning, 3 March 2023, at ten o’clock. [ Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I got up because you got up.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Good. [ Laughter] [ At 8:47 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am Friday, 3 March 2023] 654 1 March 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentionally left blank.]
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