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House of Assembly Session 2022/2023 488 speeches

February 27, 2023

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Session Summary

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The government announced a comprehensive agricultural strategy aimed at increasing local food production and reducing dependence on food imports, especially after COVID-19 exposed supply chain vulnerabilities. The Attorney General reported successful use of new child witness protections that allow children to give pre-recorded testimony in sexual assault cases, avoiding traumatic courtroom experiences. The Minister of Economy announced changes to immigration policy that will allow people who invest $2.5 million in Bermuda to get residential certificates immediately instead of waiting five years.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Feb 27, 2023
Session 2022/2023
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Speakers 26
Speeches 488

Key Topics

Food production and agricultural strategy to reduce Bermuda's reliance on imported foodNew legal protections for child witnesses in sexual assault cases, including pre-recorded testimonyChanges to immigration policy allowing wealthy investors to get residential certificates fasterQuestions about farming permits, potato production, and support for local farmers

Bills & Motions

No bills were formally presented or voted on in this sitting
The revised Economic Investment Residential Certificate Policy will be tabled at the next House sitting
Minister indicated that amendments to the Agriculture Act 1930 will be needed to address illegal crop theft

Notable Moments

Deputy Premier acknowledged the problem of "night farming" (people stealing crops) and announced new camera monitoring systems and registration requirements for commercial farmers
Attorney General highlighted that a child under 10 successfully gave pre-recorded evidence that led to a conviction, with everyone in the room wearing pink (the child's favorite color)
Opposition members questioned the government about delays in farming permits that may reduce potato production by half this year

Debate Transcript

488 speeches from 26 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. Ms. Beale will now lead us in prayer. PRAY ERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Ms. Beale. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the House is now in ses sion. Good morning. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of the 24th of February have been deferred. [Minutes of 24 February 2023 deferred] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, the announcement this morning is that we have been given i ndication from the following Members that they will be absent today: MP Jarion Richardson, MP Jason Wade, MP Anthony Richar dson, MP Dennis Lister, MP Jache Adams, MP Scott Simmons, and Minister Weeks. They have all indicated their …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no ne. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have three Statements this mor ning. The first is in the name of the Deputy Premier . Deputy, would you like to present your Stat ement at this point? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Walter H. Roban : Good morning, Members of the Legislature and the listening public. INTRODUCING THE INTEGRATED AGRICULTURE STRATEGY Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to update this Honourable House on the Ministry of Home Affairs’ strategy to enhance the Island’s local food production …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy P remier. The next Statement this morning, Members , is in the name of the Madam Attorney General. Madam, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. UPDATE ON THE SUCCESSFUL USE OF SPECIAL MEASURES, PER PART 5 OF THE CHILD SAFEGUARDING (MISCELLANEOUS AMENDMENTS) ACT 2019 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, I rise t oday, gratified to inform this Honourable House that the special measures for child witnesses, as contained in Part 5 of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorney General. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. THE ECONOMIC INVESTMENT AND RESIDENTIAL CERTIFICATE POLICY REVISION Hon. Ja son Hayward: I am elated to rise today to present to this Honourable House an update on i nvestment in the Economic Investment Certificate [EIC] and Resident ial Certificate Policy and to advise of r evisions that the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. I appreciate that. Members, this brings us to a close of the Statements for this morning. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Ministers, Members, we actually have questions for each of the three Statements that were given this morning. We will start with the first Statement. Deputy Premier, MP Pearman would like to put a question to you. The clock has started now. QUESTION 1: INTRODUCING THE INTEGRATED AGRICULTURE STRATEGY
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to the listening public. 458 27 February 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Thank you, Minister, for your Statement on food pr oduction and food security. My first question is this, for all the very welcomed discussion around increasing …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I would say yes. I do believe that [there is] a considerable amount of interest in the public over the last couple of years in food production. Not only perhaps at . . . there are more people partic ipating b ut also from a …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank y ou, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary. Does that also extend to livestock, chickens, production of beef and the likes as well? That it is growing or . . . Hon. Walter H. Roban: Those are areas which I do not believe have necessarily expanded over recent years. In fact, perhaps, …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I wou ld like to ask the Minister whether there are any restrictions on home gardening or the raising of any small livestock such as poultry.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I do not believe there are. I can go and verify. But I think the restric tion is really the Bermudian lifestyle has changed from years ago. I remember growing up, and this is a very i nteresting circumstance. When I was a little boy, …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Further supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Well, given the feral chicken situation, but also given the prospects of being able to raise small farm animals that could be used as a food source, would the Government consider having any regulations or guidance put in place so that those who do have the land could be able …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: There are already regulations in place to govern those who decide to operate commercially in this s pace. And so that is where it is. And so if somebody is going to do it, they certainly need to make sure that they have the proper …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Well, you had your two supplementaries. Anyone else with a supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Is this a supplementary or a new question?
Mr. Scott Pearman This is my first supplementary? The Spe aker: Okay. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Okay. Thank you. You have confirmed Honourable Minister that there has been an increase in local farming. Can you assist us with whether or not that is in terms of food being produced or land being used for farming or both? Thanks.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I think we can assume that if people are doing more cultivation, they are using more land to do it, even if it is a little square backyard garden. But from a commercial level, I do bel ieve that with some of the programmes that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman You sort of started to touch on my next question. So you had stated in your Stat ement that you are going to make more l and available. Is that the land that will be identified after the concl usion of the audit that you just referenced in your last …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, the audit will help very much with that, Mr. Speaker. To answer the Member’s question, as I said in my previous Statement, there may be some of those 700- plus acres that although zoned may not be suitable. It may just be land that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. 460 27 February 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: INTRODUCING THE INTEGRATED AGRICULTURE STRATEGY
Mr. Scott Pearman Minister, you mentioned that an individual is being brought or has been brought into the Island to work on this. I think you said his name was Stewart Swanson, c orrecting your Statement. Could you please give us some details about why Mr. Swanson has been selected for this task?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Swanson is a highly experienced agricultural a gronomist . He not only has been to Bermuda before and our farmers are familiar with him from his previous engagement here, but he is also experienced with the region. He works out of Florida. This is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, first supplementary. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Minister, what is the scope of the work that Mr. Swanson will be doing? You i dentified a number of policy decisions, sort of a cooperative, the integrated agricultural strategy update. You mentioned all of these various sub strategies regarding crops and dairy and honey , et cetera. So what …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? Mr. Scott Pearman: Second supplementary.
Mr. Scott Pearman Do you have an anticipated cost? Hon. Walter H. Roban: That can be dealt with during the Budget [Debate], Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Noted. Third question? QUESTION 3: INTRODUCING THE INTEGRATED AGRICULTURE STRATEGY
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, third question, Mr. Speak er. You spoke of food security and the integrated agricultural strategy. If, perish the thought, we face some other catastrophic event or pandemic which prevents the importation of food or the diminishment in the importation of food, does the Minister have a view of how …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am not trying to be evasive on this, but that i s likely to never ha ppen. And I say that because during the pandemic time, one thing this Government did was build a very strong relationship with our importers and our …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. First supplementary? Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman First supplementary. Thank you. Still on food security and integrated agricultural strat-egy. You spoke, Minister, of night farming. And thank you for your encouragement to the general public. My ques tion on that is, What are the police doing in relation to your policy? Has there been liaison? The reason …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I cannot speak to any particular case, but the answer is yes. My d epartment and the police do liaise closely as well as with the Farmers Association on these matters.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second supplementary or are you complete?
Mr. Scott Pearman I think my last supplementary now, Mr. Speaker, last question, last supplementary.
Mr. Scott Pearman Still on integrated agricultural strategy. You mentioned the registration process. You assured the public that this would not be about being cumbersome or costly for those who wish to farm. I am assuming that if someone failed to register there would therefore be no specific penalties, or fines, or criminal …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I was just referencing an init iative that we are going to actually bring about. I cannot speak to any penalty or fines. This is merely a scheme to ensure that every member of the public can properly identify a farmer who is allowed to …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. This brings to an end of the questions from MP Pearman. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker. The Speaker: MP Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I had a supplementary on that.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, you had a suppl ementary on that? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary on that. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me declare my interest. I am a part of a food importing business, but I fully support the Stat ement by the Minister today [regarding] the initiative by the Government. In regard to the in- …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Any budgetary matters on this I will happily answer during the Budget, Mr. Speaker. But this expenditure would have been on our previous year, not in the upcoming year. And future expend iture I will happily give more detail during the Budget. But it is …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Further supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson My question is: The use of the cameras, will those just be for the farmers who are leasing government arable land and growing crops on land that is government’s or will those cameras be made available at cost for the [farmers] of the privately owned land? 462 27 February 2023 …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-mm. Okay. You have a second supplementary on that?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, sorry, Mr. Speaker, just a quick one. The actual monitoring of the cameras, will that be something that the farmers will be respo nsible for monitoring the footage or will that be som ething that the police will be involved with? Hon. Walter H. Roban: The cameras wil l …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Opposition Leader, you have a supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simo ns: Yes, does this programme provide the same privilege to the protections of private farmers, [or backyard farmers], and not commercial farmers? Because private farmers may also have the same challenge. They may have a large garden …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: This programm e is for co mmercial farmers. I think everybody knows those cameras are quite affordable for anyone. Anybody can acquire them so it is no special need that anybody needs to go through to acquire one of these cameras. In fact, one of …
The Speaker The Speaker No further supplementaries on that one? Okay. Minister, the next Member who has a question for you is MP Dunkley. QUESTION 1: INTRODUCING THE INTEGRATED AGRICULTURE STRATEGY Hon. Michael H. Dunkle y: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Honourable Minister, as previously said, [I give] full support to this programme. …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-mm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I knew this would come up, Mr. Speaker. So, I am happy to answer the question. I actually refute the assertions in the actual article. I only just saw it myself. Seed potato was acquired this past season, late November, early December of last year. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Du nkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker, yes. I thank the Honourable Minister for the explanation. Mr. Speaker, my comments were clear that I was informed by certain farmers who have been in the industry for a period of time and have a lot of …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? MP Jackson, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Given and accepting what the Minister has just provided the House, I would like to ask the question again around the actual procedures. Given the fact that this is a timely matter, would the Minister be willing at any time to even revisit the procedures …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, we are always looking to review and refine any procedures or pr ocess that might actually be problematic or provide challenges, and I have tasked every department in my Ministry to do that, whether it be Planning, whether it be in the Department …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? No. Second question? Okay. Minister, this brings to a close the questions on your Statement this morning. We will now move on. Madam Attorney General, there are Members who would like to put questions for your Statement. MP Pearman. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON THE SUCCESSFUL USE OF SPECIAL …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Honourable and Learned Minister for her Statement. Minister, you had brought in these changes to child witness evidence in, I think, 2019. At that time you had our support for the amendments and indeed our commendation. And I too would like …
The Speaker The Speaker Madam Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The convention is under review by the Social Development Ministry. They have the C hild Safeguard Committee that was established under the Children Act 1998 and in practical terms, they keep it under review and recommendations are made to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, yes, first supplementary. Do you antic ipate that recommendations will be forthcoming, and if so, what sort of timeframe? Thank you. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: The recommendations have been drafted and there is an underlying policy document that accompanies them. When the Minister puts them before the Cabinet …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman No, second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question, okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Thank you, Mr. Speaker. QUESTION 2: UPDATE ON THE SUCCESSFUL USE OF SPECIAL MEASURES, PER PART 5 OF THE CHILD SAFEGUARDING (MISCELLANEOUS AMENDMENTS) ACT 2019
Mr. Scott Pearman You mentioned how the process will work and you discussed how the questions by D efence Counsel in Chambers will be pre-vetted by the intermediary, I think you said to be age appropriate. My question is this: What happens if there is a dis agreement, and I am not sharing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supp lementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Still on the process, you also mentioned in your Statement the Bar Association has invited members of the Bar to have training pr ogrammes to understand how this process will work. Are there any other sugge stions emanating from the Bar Association or the Bar Council in relation to …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? MP Jackson. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is all quite new to me. But I am just cur ious, given the populati on, the members who would be within Chambers during this interview process. I could imagine it being just as intimidating for a seven- yearold to be around judges and …
The Speaker The Speaker Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: The child is able to have a person who they feel close to, a family member or otherwise, present at the time. Every accommodation, Mr. Speaker, is made to ensure that the child is comfortable and able to give witness evidence in these circumstances. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or . . .
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, so, I would just thank the Honourable Minister. And again, her closing Stat ement was that she is seeking to enhance the safety and happiness of children and we commend and agree with that statement. Thank you. The S peaker: No question? [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker It is Question Period. I was waiting for a question out of that. So do you have a third question or not?
Mr. Scott Pearman No, sir, I am done. There is a nother Statement coming.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Madam Attorney General, you are done with questions for this morning. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Hayward, a Member wishes to put questions to you as well. MP Pearman, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: THE ECONOMIC INVESTMENT AND RESIDENTIAL CERTIFICATE POLICY REVISION
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Honourable Mi nister for your Statement regarding the EIC, which is the attempt to get people from abroad to invest into Bermuda in exchange for residency or eligibility for residency certificates. My question is in regard to the suggestion that the existing situation is going to be …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you. Thank you for that very clear answer, Minister. So as I understand it, in order to first cross the threshold of the EIC, you have the $2.5 million as you have stated and it used to be that you had a five- year residency requirement before you …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, moving forward under the revised EIC policy, there i s no second leg. So there is no second set of eligibility requirements. All the eligibility requirements will be on the front end when one is to receive an Economic Investment Certificate.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you. You have already referenced in your previous answer that the residential certificate is then indefinite. Are there shorter versions? Or will it be assumed that each application at that point under section 5 will be indefinite?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, underneath the Economic Investment Certificate policy, the only res idential certificate that we will be giving out moving forward is under section 32(5). There are, however, under the Bermuda Immigration Act, other provisions which will allow persons to be resident in Bermuda for periods …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? MP Jackson. 466 27 February 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am just curious whether once these holders of this residency certificate for an extended period of time, indefinitely, will be then counted as a member of the population. If they chose to leave Bermuda at any time, will that be reflected in population numbers? …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: To remain eligible for a res idential certificate, one has to have a minimal stay in Bermuda of 90 days. If one is not meeting that 90- day requirement, the certi ficate can be revoked.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Go ahead. QUESTION 2: THE ECONOMIC INVESTMENT AND RESIDENTIAL CERTIFICATE POLICY REVISION
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Minister. You talked about how this new change would be retrospective to certain categories of residential certificate holders, but not to certain other categories of residential certificate holders, drawing a distinction between those who o btained a residential certifi cate under the 2021 policy, who would fall within …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I am not drawing a distinction between two pools of residents, but what I do want to say is that those persons who came in under the 2021 policy, all invested $2.5 million. Those persons who received residential certificates under the 2003 and 2015 policies, received …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister. Does the Ministry or the Minister or Cabinet generally anticipate increasing or alternatively d ecreasing the $2.5 million figure?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: At this point in time the Go vernment is comfortable with the $2.5 million figure. And notwithstanding it is $2.5 million, the Statement indicates that the invest ments have been well over the $2.5 million threshold and so we deem the policy to be effective as …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary or third question?
Mr. Scott Pearman No, it is the second supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary. Go ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, or I can make it the third question . . . oh, sorry. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I have a supplementary, Mr. Speaker , if he is going to move to another question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Put your supplementary. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Minister, will this policy change create greater economic activity and additional contributions toward our tax system and the muchneeded additional revenue to Bermuda and Bermudians? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary, Ms. Jac kson? SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is under the economic certificate and allowing residents to have indefinite stay here, will Bermuda House of Assembly the Minister be looking to change some of the real estate policies, especiall y around the sale of condominiums that are owned by Bermudians that …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, underneath the . . . in the Bermuda Immigration and Protection Act condominiums purchases are restricted to PRC hol ders and residential certificate holders. However, the residential certificate holders issued under [section] 32(5) . . . the old policy was not issued under section …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary or . . . Would you like to ask your third question?
Mr. Scott Pear man Well, I am actually on my second supplementary or my third question. I have one question so . . .
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that’s right. You sat down just now and didn’t put the question. Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman There you go. So, I wanted to defer to MP De Silva. Minister, just back on that $2.5 million and those people who are applying, in your Statement, when you said $113 million in real estate sales, am I to understand that these $113 million in real estate sales are …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The entire amount that was stated for real estate sales is directly aligned with ind ividuals who are participants in this EIC programme.
The Speaker The Speaker That is your third question now.
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, I will just do my . . . That’s my third question. Here is first supplementary. Sorry, what is directly aligned—
The Speaker The Speaker No, no that was your second suppl ementary on your second question. So now it is your third question. QUEST ION 3: THE ECONOMIC INVESTMENT AND RESIDENTIAL CERTIFICATE POLICY REVISION
Mr. Scott Pearman Well then, my third question. Sorry, Minister, just for clarity, what does “directly aligned” mean? Does that mean these are EIC persons and there have been eff ectively 60- plus pe ople who have put in $2.5 million into real estate? What does “directly aligned” mean?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Directly aligned means that was the amount of real estate purchases connected to qualify investments. Qualifying investments for eligibi lity.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. No further questions.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Well, Members, this brings us to a close of the Question Period for this morning. And I thank you for your participation this morning. We will now move on to the next item on the Order Paper. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker I assume there will be Members who would like to make a contribution here. And if you can just give me one second to reset this . . . Premier, you jum ped up rather quickly this morning. Would you like to make a contribution? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I am trying to think. I thought we did it when we first came in but . . . [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: When we first came in?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: It is a possibility, sir. I was off Island so if done, I would like to associate myself. The Sp eaker: Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: And given that these things took place while I was off Island, I would also certainly like to associate …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that was done. Hon. E. David Burt: —and I would certainly like to ensure that my condolences are associated with that. He was a larger -than- life personality, a constituent of mine, Mr. Speaker, in Pembroke West Central and certainly someone who I enjoyed visiting. Even throughout his illness …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speak er, I would like to give condolences to the family of the late parliamentarian, businessman, teacher, lawyer, and judge, Arthur Hodgson, a well - known figure …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, H onourable Member, Deputy. Does any other Member wish to speak? MP Foggo, you have your three minutes. Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I won’t take as long as the Deputy Speaker, but —
The Speaker The Speaker He used his three minutes.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo I wanted to chime in and ass ociate myself with the condolences with respect to for-mer MP Arthur Hodgson. He indeed was a teacher and in fact did teach me at the Berkeley Institute. I would say that he was a very challenging teacher because his styl e was very …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo I am going to blow my own horn. Right? [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Ms. Lovit ta F. Foggo No, but this is . . . the Colonel is looking at me, so you know . . . I don’t know. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo But that is in fact true. I did win my case and he did try and convince me to go to law school but I wasn’t having any of that. I just want to say that one of his pet peeves was education. It really was. Arthur approached me many …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Okay, yes. I do need to ass ociate the Member from constituency 1, the represent ative from constituency 1. [Timer chimes]
The Speaker The Speaker I thought you weren’t going to use your three minutes.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I will allow my colleague, Mr. Swan, to speak when he gets up.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. You used all your three minutes. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan, I see you on your feet. Would you like three minutes on the clock?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker, I am grateful that the Honourable Member is going to let me speak. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences to the family of the late Arthur Hodgson, [Arthur] David Outerbridge Hodgson, in fact, who was the brother -in-law to my late father, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Swan. Opposition Leader, would you like to make your contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Spe aker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to associate myself with the comments made in regard to Arthur Hodgson. I first met him as a student …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-mm. [Timer chimes] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: And that was intriguing b ecause I was not aware of that process. So I learned someth ing during my visit —
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: —during Black History Month. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Deputy Premier, would you like to make a contribution? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, thank you, Mr. S peaker, ever so briefly. I wish to be associated with the accolades to Paget Primary. I went there more on a personal c apacity than official. And I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. MP Simmons -Wade, you have your three minutes.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wou ld like to associate myself with Paget Primary. This of course was their fifth Bermuda [Black] History Museum. They have covered many people who have contributed to Bermuda and it has made, not just the students of the school, but everyone who visited, ver …
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, oh, oh. Oops, oops, oops.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Oh, you already did it?
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, no, no. Not you. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Keep talking. You’re good. You’re okay. [Inaudible interjections]
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Okay. I can keep going?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, keep going. Keep going. [Laughter]
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade On behalf of the pas sing of her late mother, Millicent Washington. She was from the east, but she contributed significantly to the area of nursing. I met her actually 48 years ago at what is now MWI, but at St. Brendan Hospital. She was one of the first Black …
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes. I thought you were waving. [Laughter]
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade I associate Cole S imons.
The Speaker The Speaker You associate the whole House.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to add my sentiments to the Hodgson family on the passing of Arthur. What a lot of people didn’t know was that he was very close to our family. Coming out of Bailey’s Bay, m y mother is a Bailey’s Bay girl, and …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So, again, a great man and I appreciate the fact that he was proactive in calling me out and saying, Listen, come in. I want to have a chat with you. Which I felt was commendable, knowing that . . . not realising ho w close my mother and him …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member . . . MP, Government Whip has been jumping for awhile so I am going to recognise the Government Whip.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I also wish to be associated with the condolences to the Hodgson family. And certai nly thank them for lending him to us. Arthur was actually a family friend. And I can certainly say that in my early days of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member . . . MP De Silva. You have your three minutes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too would like to be associated with the condolences to the f amily of our beloved brother, Arthur …
The Speaker The Speaker As long as you don’t try and sing a few lyrics. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Pardon?
The Speaker The Speaker Just don’t try to sing a few lyrics. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, no, no! You won’t . . . Mind you, the last time I sang some of his lyrics, Mr. Speaker, I ended up in court, as you know. [Laughter] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Minister Burch, you have your three m inutes.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, thank you. I would like to be associated with the condolences for Mr. Arthur Hodgson, who also taught me at Sandys along with his wife. And I concur with the comments of the Opposition Leader about the number of Black male teachers who we had at Sandys at …
The Speaker The Speaker That’s right.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be associated with the condolences [to the family] of Ms. Elsie Rance. I, of course, served for a number of years in the Regiment with her son, Allan. And I wish that family sincere condolences. And finally, Mr. Speaker, I would like to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other? No? Before we move on, I would just like to add mine to some of the remarks this morning. Of course, the remarks that are expressed to the Paget Primary for their 5 th celebration of …
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The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are now starting the purpose for this season. The individual debates on the Estimates of Revenues from the respective ministries. And today is day one of that. And for the listening audience, once we go into Committee on the debates of the respective Heads for today, there are …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are no objections. Chairman Scott. House in Committee at 11:49 pm [Mr. W. Lawrence Scott, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2023/24
The Chairman Chairman Good morning Honourable Members, we are now in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and E xpenditure for the year 2023/24. We are going to be debating Heads 36, 53, 68, 81 and 82. It is currently 11:49 am, and those five heads come …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the following Heads: Head 36—the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters; Head 53—the Bermuda Housing Corpor ation; Head 68—the Department of Parks; Head 81 — the Department of Public Lands and Buildings; and 82—the Department of Works and Engineering, be now …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Ministry of Public Works is responsible for maintai ning Bermuda’s critical assets and infrastructure in addition to delivering the many services this Island depends on. A few of the assets and infrastructure areas that the Ministry is responsible for maintaining include the following: • over 2,000 acres …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the overarching objective of the Ministry Headquarters (Finance and Administration), is to provide centralised support to the departments within the Mi nistry, which include the Department of Public Lands and Buil dings, the Department of Works and Engineering, and the Department of Parks and, by extension, the var …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Head Office Administration, Programme 3601, is comprised of the Executive Offices; Headquarters Administration; and Safety and Health. Head Office Administration, under the direction of the Permanent Secretary, provides oversight and management support to the entire Ministry of Public Works. It also ensures that the Ministry’s policy objectives …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Accounts Pr ogramme provides accounts payable, accounts recei vable, payroll, capital asset recording, and nonfinancial and financial reporting functions for the operating departments within the Ministry. This sect ion also pr epares and distributes weekly payroll, vendor cheques and invoices for services provided by the Ministry’s operational areas; as …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Purchasing Programme provides centralised purchas-ing support, inventory management, warehousing and disposal functions to the other departments and pr ogrammes within the Ministry and to other external departments from time to ti me. Mr. Chairman, the Purchasing section’s focus for the fiscal year 2023/24 will be reviewing and …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Telecommunic ations programme provides a suite of services such as replacement of telephones and related equipment, and the management of mobile service contracts for the Ministry. Mr. Chairman, the Government owns and o perates a portfolio of seven telecommunication tower sites across the Island, with the towers located at …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, this programme was previously called the Human R esource programme due to its emphasis on employee services. Although most of these services have now been centralised under the Department of Employee and Organizational Development, the Ministry is still required to assist with recruitment and employee rel ations, in …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the budgeted number of employees for the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters is 40, as reflected on page B -217. The headcount has increased by one for the 2023/24 fiscal year, as the Ministry has established a new policy analyst post in accordance with the Cab inet-approved requirements, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, during 2023/24 the Public Works Headquarters will aim to conduct four safety and health assessments with corrective actions, and conduct 12 safety and health training ses sions for Ministry employees. In addition, the Ministry will continue to expand the Medical Services programme for employees who have the potential …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, with regard to the major capital projects being managed by the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters, the overall 2023/24 capital expenditure plan for the Public Works Headquarters is $7,027,000. This represents $3,152,000 less than the amount allocated for the fiscal year 2022/23. These savings are due to the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the overall 2023/24 capital acquisitions plan for the Public Works Headquarters is $172,000. This is an increase of $34,000 from the 2022/23 budget allocation. D etails are found on page C -14 under Schedule C of the Capital Accounts Estimates. And the capital acquis itions include cost centre …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, in add ition to the Ministry’s direct management over its departments, we also provide oversight and the occ asional financial support to the quangos; namely, WEDCO, the Bermuda Land Development Company [BLDC], the go lf courses and the Bermuda Housing Corporation [BHC]. Mr. Chairman, the BHC will be …
The Chairman Chairman Well, we can go until 12:30.
Lt. Col . Hon. David A. Burch Okay. HEAD 53 —BERMUDA HOUSING CORPORATION
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mission statement of the Bermuda Housing Corpor ation [BHC] is To provide accessibility to adequate, affordable housing and promote independent living to enhance the quality of life in Bermuda. The vision statement of the Bermuda Housing Corporation is, Every Bermudian will reside in an adequate and safe …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, we have reached 12:30 and I just wondered if you just wanted to wrap up that sentence, or paragraph, and then we can have somebody take us to lunch.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I will wrap the par agraph up. That works. • 5 Aunt Jinny’s Lane, St. David’s, four bedrooms, two baths, $350,000, estimated completion July 2023 • Three Pan Bermuda units; Sandys, refurbis hing of these three units to be completed in sequence at $200,000, estimated completion August 2023. I will …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Did you want to have somebody to take us to lunch?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I move that we break for lunch and ret urn at two o’clock.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections? So moved. Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2: 02 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman ]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good afternoon, Members. We resume the debate on Public Works. Minister Burch, you have the floor. You may sit. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2023/24 [Continuation thereof] MINISTRY OF PUBLIC WORKS HEAD 53 —BERMUDA HOUSING CORPORATION [Continuing]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. Prior to lunch we got partway through these Housing Corporation briefs. So I will continue where I left off, which was reporting on the first phase of the Residential Building Programme. I outlined the four Bermuda House of Assembly properties that received planning permission and …
The Chairman Chairman Are you in Head 53?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes. So, the remaining five projects are in tendering phase, tendering or planning stages. One is Batter y Road Lofts, phase 2. This is 11 units at $925,000 that is out to tender. Number 2 is Alexander Duplex, two units, $400,000. That is also out to tender. Chelsea Apartments in …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The 94 condominium units are in eight condo buildings throughout the property, comprising 16 three- bedroom, threebathroom units; 28 two- bedroom, two- bathroom units; 25 one- bedroom, one- bathroom units; and 25 studio units, one- bathroom units. The prices range from st udio, $412,500 to $698,250; for one bedroom, $459,000 …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch These 94 condominium units convert into 110 key hotel suites called the Bermudiana Beach Resort, a tapestry collection by Hilton Hotel, a 3.5- star hotel resort. The resort co nsists of the following: eight condominium hotel buil dings comprising 110 hotel keys; two- storey receptio n building; four -storey amenity …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the BHC operates eight rooming or transitional houses that contain approximately 180 beds. The various houses are located throughout the Island and provide a safe habita t for BHC clients. The rooming houses cater to households that need immediate, safe or emergency accommodation. The Support Services 482 27 …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Gulfstream multi -unit rooming house comprises 79 rooms and curr ently houses 49 families from various backgrounds. Some families have adjoining rooms to ensure adequate privacy for parents and children. The Gulfstream residents are appreciative of the opportunity, and regular house meetings are held to listen to …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, Building 632, better known as Langley House, is a 63- bedroom rooming house facility located at S outhside, St. D avid’s. The rooming house is used specifically to house men in need of affordable, safe accommodation. There are currently 55 men residing in the rooming house. The Corporation …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Construction is underway to refurbish an old two -apartment house on Beacon Hill in Somerset int o a five -bedroom men’s roo ming house. It is anticipated this project will be complet-ed by May 2023 and will be a much welcome addition to our units in the West End of …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Corporation is in the proces s of transforming the Harmony Club property into studio, one- bedroom and two- bedroom units which will include intergenerational living for those 50 years and older who are mobile and can live independently. As previously stated, construction is un-derway on Block B, with Blocks …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Bermuda Housing Corporation’s Head Office is located at the Seven Arches Building (East Entrance), 44 Church Street in the City of Hamilton and presently consists of 43 per-sonnel. Of that total, four H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck members operate from office space at the Harmony Club. And four staff members, under the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Pr oject Management Department consisting of three emBermuda House of Assembly ployees assis ts with advice regarding major repair work necessary on existing buildings owned by the Corporation to ensure longevity of the Corporation’s assets. The department has recently been restructured with the project managers overseeing the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Property Operations Department is responsible for the maintenance of BHC’s housing stock of approximately 700 units including the rooming houses Island- wide. The department’s responsibilities include the regular maintenance of buildings under the control of BHC and providing advice and assistance to clients of BHC on housing- …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Finance Depar tment has a total staff of nine employees, consisting of one finance manager and two assistant finance managers, one responsible for reporting and the other for IT; one accounts supervisor; three finance officers; one IT assistant; and one cashier. The Finance Department carefully monitors the Corporation’s spending …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Support Services Department is the department responsible for ensu ring that adequate housing is found for BHC clients. The department conducts regular inspections of B HC housing inventory to ensure clients are compliant with their rental contracts. The department consists of 10 persons, one manager, two rental case workers, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Administration Department consists of the general manager, one executive assistant, one receptionist and three office assistants. The Administration D epartment is responsible for the orderly dai ly business of the Corporation. Human Resources
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Human Resource Department has a total staff of two. The HR Depar tment ensures that staff members have the required skills to carry out their daily roles efficiently and s uccessfully, as the Corporation ensures employee welfare and provides mentoring and training services. Helping the Unemployed Sustain Themselves with …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck programme has proven itself over the years, assisting unemployed persons who actively seek work. The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Headquarters operates out of the Harmony Club and caters to 20 temporary employees per week. The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck conti nues to be of valuable as sistance to Bermuda with the …
The Chairman Chairman You may, Minister. Continue. HEAD 68 —DEPARTMENT OF PARKS
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the D epartment of Parks is responsible for the administration of protected areas listed under the Bermuda National Parks Act 1986 [the Act ], specifically Class B Amenity Parks which catalogues 76 different parks and railway trails. The department’s mission statement is to see the management and preservation …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, as aforementioned, the Park Ranger Service (p rogramme 78000) holds the responsibility for enforcing the regulations associated with the National Parks. The section continues to have a good working relationship with the Bermuda Police Service [BPS], primarily the Community Action Team which has pr ovided valuable assistance when …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Lifeguard Service (programme 78010) on page B -221 continues to provide the lifeguard and water safety support to not only residents and visitors at local beaches but also the swim portion of the Bermuda Triathlon Association. As the Government is expecting an increase in visitation, especially in …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. C hairman, now moving to the Parks Maintenance section. As reflec ted on page B -221, this section comprises nine different programmes and holds the responsibility of day - to-day maintenance of the national parks. The co mbined budget will be $6,659,000. This is a decrease of $275,000, or …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Administration and Planning programme ( 78050) is the hub of the department and encompasses the Park Planning section. This includes the drafting of park management plans , licenses, and leases for concession operations , in addition to capital project oversight, parks assets analysis and other key operational activities. Mr. …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the primary function of the Forts and Historical Sites pr ogramme (78080) is to manage the historical forts across the Island including Fort St. Catherine , which forms a part of the UNESCO World Heritage Site. The department will continue to wor k with industry partners such as …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch St. George’s, of course. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, for the 2022 /23 fiscal year , there were significant improv ements relating to the upgrading of the wooden and chain link fencing in parks to ensure the safety and health of those utili sing these facilities, and the refurbishment of the park gat es. Adding to this …
The Chairman Chairman Please. Yes, it is.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, further to the last SDP graduation and the Ministry’s prom otion of the programme a few months ago, Mr. Roger Parris advised this week that there were over 40 young people applying to take part in the next pr ogramme of which the team selected 22 participants. [Desk …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Parris advised he now has a waiting list since the programme has be-come so popular. And further, both senior schools have contacted the SDP team and asked if some of their students can come on Fridays as part of their day release programme. SDP also has a waiting list …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. HEAD 81 —PUBLIC LANDS AND BUILDINGS Mission Statement
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mission statement of the Departm ent of Public Lands and Buildings states it is their responsibility To effe ctively manage government property and provide national mapping to enable the delivery of effective public services. Mr. Chairman, the Department of Public Lands and Buildings is r esponsible for …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, p rogram me 8100, Administration and Training , has a total budget of $542,000. Its objective is to provide senior management l eadership and administrative support for the Estates and Buildings Sections . This program me is split between two cost centres, namely , 91000, which is Administration …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Buildings S ection, 8101 has a total budget of $9,399,000. The Buildings Programme is split between two cost centr es, namely , 91002 —Services Management at $1,097,000; and 91003— Maintenanc e at $8,302,000. T he Buildings Pr ogramme as seen on page B -227 has a mandate …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I would like to highlight some of the achievements of the D epartment of Public Lands and Buildings during the 2022 /23 fiscal year and the plans for the 2023/ 24 fiscal year. The Buildings Section attended to over 3,502 help desk building maintenance calls in the last …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the E states Section under programme 8102 provides property- and land- related management service to all government ministries and departments, as well as the general public. This service includes insurance, acquisition, leasing, rental and disposal of land and property across the Island. The section is the custod ian …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I now move to p rogramme 8103, Land Surveys, with cost centre 91007 as found on page B -227. This pr ogramme has a budget allocation of $329,000 for fiscal year 2023/ 24, as compared to a 2022/23 budget of $324,000. The nominal increase of $5,000 is for …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, for 2023 there are several planned capital works that will take place across the various capital cost centres . The capital budget for 2023/24 has $2,750,000 under cost centre 75309, as found on page C -6, for All Schools Maintenance and will be spent on annual scheduled improvements, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The key points on the performance measures for the Department of Public Lands and Buildings are as follows: The department continues with its programme to find uses for vacant properties in the g overnment estate. It is expected that at least five reports on vacant buildings will be presented with …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mission of the Department of Works and Engineering is, To ensure the effective and prudent management of all engineering services relating to the construction, erection, improvement, maintenance and repairs of Government infrastructure and the operation of essential water and waste treatment services . The Department of Work …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the estimated budget for the Department of Works and E ngineering for the 2023/24 fiscal year is $31,114,000, which represents an increase of $3,398,000 from the 2022/23 original budget level. This increase is owed to the funding of previously unfunded posts in key departments such as Highways, the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Programme 8200, Administration, on page B -231, provides for the sal aried senior management team of the department . The mandate of the senior management team is the eff icient management of the seven sections of the Mini stry. Mr. Chairman, a $376,000 budget has been all ocated for fiscal …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Engineering Services Programme (page B -231) is to provide quality electrical, mechanical and structural engineering services. A budget of $1,370,000 has been allocated for this p rogramme, representing no change compared to the 2022/23 budget. The programme includes cost centres 92001, Electrical and Mechanical …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Highways Programme is to develop and maintain the public road infrastructure to ensure the safe passage of motorists and pedestrians. This entails all work associated with the planning, design and construction of road schemes and includes activ ities such as resurfacing, drainage, signage, road …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Waste Managem ent Programme, page B -231, is to arrange for the collection and safe disposal of Bermuda’ s solid wastes. The aim of the Waste Management Section is to serve the people of Bermuda by providing a comprehensive waste management programme, utili sing …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the budget for cost centre 92018 , Tynes Bay Maint enance, is $2,435,000, an increase of $355,000 from the original fiscal 2022/23. This is a result of increased parts, contractors and maintenance materials budget. The performance measure f or cost centre 92018, Tynes Bay Maintenance, indicates that the …
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon. Just while the Mini ster takes a little break, I would like to remind the liste ning audience that we are in the Committee of Supply. And the Honourable Minister of Public Works is cover-ing Head 82. He is [also] covering Heads 36, 53, 68 and 81. And …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Madam Chairman. Programme 8204—Quarry Transport
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch A $2,337,000 budget has been allocated for this programme for 2023/24, representing an increase of $1,201,000 as compared to the original 2022/23 Budget. T his increase is the result of filling vacant posts and increases in maint enance and parts budgets across the section. The budget for cost centre 92019, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, a $2,073,000 budget has been allocated for cost centre 92023, Asphalt Plant, which is an increase of $267,000 compared to the previous year. Additi onally, a $3,140,000 rechargeable budget for quarry products has been allocated to this p rogramme for fiscal 2023/24. The full -time equivalent for the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Page B -232, Madam Chairman. The mandate of the Water and Sewage Programme is • to provide planning, design, construction, o peration and maintenance of the g overnment water extraction, treatment and distribution systems and the wastewater collection and distribution systems; • to produce potable water on a cost recovery …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman , total staffing levels within the Department of Works and Engineering are shown on page B -233. Established employee number estimates for the 2023/24 budget are 344. This year a number of the vacant posts that make up this number are being restored in order to provide improved …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, I will now provide Members of this Honou rable House with a summary of the status of the major capital pr ojects being managed by the Department of Works and Engineering. The overall 2023/24 Capital Expenditure Plan for the Department of Works and Engineering is $19,732,000. Details are …
The Chairman Chairman May I just pause for a moment, please, to recognise the former Speaker of the House. Speaker Horton, congratulations and welcome to the Chamber. [Desk thumping] [Continuation of HEAD 82 —Works and Engineering]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I forgot where I am. [Laughter] Road Works (CEP cost centre 75042)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Estimate for this cost centre is $2,027,000. This budget comprises major maint enance work to the road network which includes road resurfacing, as well as road improvement schemes such as junction improvements, road widening and new sidewalks. With the majority of the BELCO trenching works now completed, next year’s Bermuda …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, this programme is for planned and unforeseen small to medium water and sewage projects, including a r equirement every year to provide equipment and ge neral facility upgrading to meet ongoing treatment -, environmental - and safety -related issues. The 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $150,000. …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch This CEP line item will be used for various system re furbishments as r equired by the age ing plant and infrastructure. The 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $325,000. Improvements in Street Lighting (CEP cost centre 75046)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the estimate for this cost centr e is $560,000.
The Chairman Chairman One moment, Minister, because we have moved from page C -6 to C -7, middle of the page, the bottom of the graph there. Sorry. Just skipped over. Do you have it? [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Yes. All right. You may proceed.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, okay. Madam Chairman, the e stimate for this cost centre is $560,000. This budget is used to cover the ongoing LED mo dernisation pr oject currently being delivered by BELCO. Bus Shelters (CEP cost ce ntre 75048)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is zero. No new bus shelters will be built for the upcoming year. Private Road Street Lighting (CEP cost centre 75051)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the estimate for this cost centre is also zero. This budget is normally used to provide extra lighting on private roads, but due to budget constraints no service is planned for next year. St George’ s Sewage Plant (CEP cost centre 75061)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the estimate for this cost centre is $410,000. This budget supports implementation of the Water and Waste water Master Plan in the East End. The funding will be used for providing operational resources to maintain the newly developed infrastructure currently being installed. Asbestos Disposal (CEP cost centre 75064)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $300,000, which will be used to continue the repacking of containers that ha ve deteriorated at the Government Quarry and also to ship adequately packed materials to the United States for permanent disposal. Structural Refurbishment of Bridges (CEP cost centre …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is zero. For the upcoming year all bridge- related resources have b een redirected to the swing bridge. Refurbishment Ferry Docks and Public Landings (CEP cost centre 75117)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $525,000. The work here will include repair works on minor docks and wharfs across the Island , as well as new fenders for King ’s Wharf to allow for the safe docking of megaclass cruise ships. Middle Road Warwick Sidewal …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this budget is zero. While the project is now half -completed, budget constraints will unfortunately prevent any further continuation on the sidewalk and road- widening scheme between the former T. N. Tatem school and St. Anthony’s Roman Catholic Church on Middle Road. Foreshore Protection …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, this cost centre is used to carry out repairs and mitigating measures to the foreshore. The 2023/24 estimate for 496 27 February 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly this budget is $275,000. This funding will be used for engineering design works to tackle various areas around …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is zero, as no refurbishment works on the causeway are required. Tynes Bay Waste Treatment Expansion (CEP cost centre 75210)
Lt. Co l. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman , capital funding for fiscal 2023/24 is $6,640,000. These funds will be used for the replacement of critical components of the Tynes Bay plant , which I have spoken of numerous times previously , and represents a portion of the $22,000,000 that this Government has pledged to ensure …
Lt. Col. Hon. Davi d A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $250,000. This cost centre is used to carry out repairs to collapsed walls and rock cuts. Additionally, as most cases of this damage occur due to vehicle accidents, the Gover nment wil l increasingly be seeking reimbursement from insurance coverage …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $500,000 which will be used to fund upgrades at the Quarry D epot, including repairs to the age ing asphalt production plant. Plans for a fully refurbished plant unfortunately had to be pushed back to next year due to competing …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, this programme is for the upgrade of the Pembroke Canal. The 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $240,000. This funding will be used to advance initiatives to a ddress flooding issues associated with the canal, i ncluding the cleaning of culverts, and the removal of canal vegetation …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, this Programme has been created for the as -needed u pgrade of all of the electrical control and remote monitoring systems in each of the water facilities. The 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $275,000. Tynes Bay Capital Maintenance (CEP cost centre 75308)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimated total cost of this cost centre is $4,562,000 and will be used for continuation of the plant stabili sation project now taking place at the Tynes Bay facility, which in total will be around $13 million . This project replaces critical internal components of the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $100,000. This budget is used to address any further contamination discovered during the Morgan’s Point site development. The funds for this year will be used for conti nued monitoring of the site for any further spreading of contaminates on the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $544,000 and will primarily be used to replace ag eing equipment and infrastructure at four sites: the s pecial waste site in Sallyport ; the recycli ng plant at the Government Quarry ; the c omposting depot at Marsh Folly …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the 2023/24 estimate for this cost centre is $1 million . This Bermuda House of Assembly budget will be used to effect repairs to Swing Bridge as required, as current budget constraints cannot effect the needed replacement of the full bridge in the short term. A bridge assessment, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, I would now like to provide you with a summary of the status of the major acquisitions being managed by the Department of Works and Engineering, the details of which can be found on page C -14 of t he Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure 2023/24. Quarry Vehicles …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the vehicles and equipment to be replaced under the 2023/24 budget are those that have surpassed their useful economic life and are in poor and/ or dangerous condition. This year’s budget will include further r eplacement of the refuse vehicle fleet, with four new trucks and 10 new …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, this new capital programme is aimed to have government lead by example with the replacement of combustion vehicles with electrical vehicles [EVs] . Using the data from our pilot study, we have identified areas within government that provide the best opportunity for adop tion based upon the upgradability …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. For the listening audience, we are in Commi ttee of Supply. We are listening to the Minister of Public Works, who has just given his briefs on Heads 36, 53, 68, 81 and 82. Are there any Members who would like to ask any questions? Yes, Shadow …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, thank you, Ma dam Chairman. How much time do we have, do you know? [No audible response]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Thank you very much. An hour and 30 minutes? Okay. Thank y ou very much. Let me first off start by saying that the Minister continues to give an exhaustive and thorough review of this particular Ministry, which has several heads in it. And I think what I want …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So I also noticed that he received $6 million more in his budgeting, which is a good thing, Madam Chairman. As we look at the heads of Public Works, Head 36 and its mandate, I think this particular Ministry needs more access to funding because we have a challenge. We …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier He is grinning. So welcome. I am glad the Minister is taking you on. You are amongst good people over there, okay? All right. So, if I can go to page B -213 as we get into the debate here, and just getting clarification on certain matters. We can see …
The Chairman Chairman Can you give us a specific page?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. I am on page B -214 right now, Ministry of Public Works, the mission statement.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And I am replying to the in itial statement that the Minister mentioned, many of these things, that Public Works is a major job creator and in charge of infrastructure development. And it is all about empowering entrepreneurial opportunities as well, because what happens is on our beaches and the …
The Chairman Chairman [INAUDIBLE]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Sorry. Page B -218, the performance measures. If I go over to the performance measures there, the Minister mentioned that the Ministry had identified 120 people for safety and health, which I brought up before. What I wasn’t clear on was [if] that [was] just within the Ministry, because I …
The Chairman Chairman I’m sorry Shadow, could you just . . .
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier My a pologies , business unit 46112, central office administration.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Again, on page B -218. E nsure employee files are completed within three weeks of start date. This does not reflect here, but if you take a look at last year’s book, it is an improvement from six weeks. I don’t know if that was intentional or not, but it …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch They are one and the same.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier One and the same. Okay. Great. Great. So, what I would like to hear is exactly where we are today. The Minister has given several press conferences in the pas t, speaking of different mil estones. At this particular time, do we have a deadline for the completion of these …
The Chairman Chairman What page is it?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I’m sorry. Staffing is on page B-223. And it says 12. For some reason I thought we had 20- something lifeguards. Did we reduce it to 12? Or has it always been there? I don’t know why I thought it was much higher than that. But, anyhow, suffice it to …
The Chairman Chairman Hold on. Hold on, sir. What page?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I’m on General Summary, page B-221.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. I got that.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier If you come under Life Guard Services, Park Maintenance.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier [Business unit] 6803, [cost centre] 78015. I am curious as to what conditio n that place is in. I mean, that place is falling apart every time I go up there. And I don’t know who is responsible for the m ajor part of the maintenance there. But the number …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-mm.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. What are we renting to the tune of that? Or is it shared amongst several things? What exactly does Parks rent out? Outside of the land, is this due to camping type of thing? Can we get a little more information there? Now, it may be that because if …
The Chairman Chairman Which number?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Head 81, Public Lands and Buildings on page B -227. Now, the Minister did not say a whole lot in general. I am just speaking to the mission statement here and policy procedures and the likes, our philosophy toward some of our buildings. We know that we have an excessive, …
The Chairman Chairman Are you referring to a particular line item?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I am. If you look at Works and Engineering, and you go to the mission statement where it talks about essential water and waste treatment services.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. I’m getting beat up here. So, under the mission statement where it talks about water services, and we may go into some detail as we go through the analysis here. If we look on page B -231 under General Services for Head 82, Works and Engineering, there is a …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The lim estone is all filtered out. Yes. [Laughter and i naudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I can assure you, it is getting through, man. Some of it has got to be getting through.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You will probably drink some.
Mr. L. Craig Cannoni er Yes, I’ll drink some. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I got that last toddy from down in your neighbourhood, man.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So, I don’t know if the Mini ster may be considering . . . maybe we need to pass a new law, health and safety, that . . . we are digging the hole anyhow. Maybe we put in a septic tank that is lined and can be easily piped …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Okay. Cool. All right. I would like to move us over to page C-5, under the Capital Account Estimates. That is page C -5, Ministry of Public Works . . . how much time do we have so I make sure I give him some time?
The Chairman Chairman You have approximately 30 minutes. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No, no, no. I appreciate the Minister does a thorough job, so I do like to hear what he has to say so . . . on page C -5, under Capital D evelopment. There wasn’t much said about unit 75003, Corporation of St. George’s Grant. We were well over …
The Chairman Chairman Got it. Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am going to skip down here. He mentioned about the housing grant. That’s new. Okay. I am going to go down to Public Lands and Buildings, 75356, Molecular Diagnostics Lab. I noticed that we had a TAF of $1.2 million, but if you add up what we actually did …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Is there anyone el se who has questions?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Madam Chai rman. Minister, I have just one question and I will take a stab at the right line item and I may be wrong on the line item and indeed I may be wrong entirely on this. But I just wanted t o know. I think …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you. Okay. So, I have answers on every device known to man, including paper. It is slightly out of order, but we will do the WhatsApp ones first. There was a question in relation to potholes. We are employing a new saw cutting method to create better and long- …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch But you can still go to Gorham’s today and buy Roundup, so we are having our own internal challenges. But we do have as r ecently as two weeks ago an offer of an alternative s olution. That is why the country looks the way it does because we are …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Money, coming to do that. And so for St. George's the primary function is the main line ’s fault. And then we will work methodically, particularly with St. George’s where the streets are narrow and the houses are close, about how we can get those lines to individual homes. But …
The Chairman Chairman Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Am I out of time?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Sorry. 510 27 February 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: Okay . Let me finish answering this one question.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch We have also hired a consultant at the quarry who has implemented a com-puter programme called iMANT which is used at var ious facilities around the country. If w e can get the people to use it, it will increase our ability of servicing vehicles at the quarry, just exponentially. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Minister, would you like to move your Heads?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, I move that Heads 36, 53, 68, 81 and 82 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 36, 53, 68, 81 and 82 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No. No objection. Agreed to. Thank you. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Public Works, Heads 36, 53, 68, 81 and 82 were approved and stand part of the Estimates …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2023/24. Heads 87, 3, 4, 74, 75, 88 for the Ministry of Legal Affairs and Constitutional Reform are now to be debated. Minister Simmons, you have the floor. …
The Chairman Chairman You are by yourself. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes. Flying solo, but I will be joined by members of my team later. With that, Mr. Chairman, I move the following Heads: 87 —Ministry of Legal Affairs & Constitutional Reform Headquarters; 3 —Judicial Department; 4 — Attorney General’s Chambers; 74—Department of …
The Chairman Chairman You have the floor. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. MINISTRY OF LEGAL AFFAIRS AND CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM HEAD 87 —HEADQUARTERS Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Chairman, it gives me pleasure to present the Budget Brief for this Mini stry as we approach our work with vigilance. The …
The Chairman Chairman We are in Committee of Supply and we are almost two hours in. So, Minister, when you are ready to carry your next Head, please continue. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons : Thank you, Madam Chairman, I will now move to Head 4 which repr esents the Attorney General’s Chambers. HEAD …
The Chairman Chairman I just want to inform the listening pu blic that we are now just over two hours into the debate, and we are on Head 4, the Attorney General’s Chambers. Madam Attorney General, if you are ready to continue, please do. Hon. Kat hy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Madam Chairman. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Attorney General. Again, I want to remind the public that we have just finished listening to the Attorney General’s Chambers brief and we are now moving on, I believe to Head 74. Is that correct, Madam Attorney General? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Correct.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. You have the floor. HEAD 74 —DEPARTMENT OF COURT SERVICES Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you Madam Chairman. The current account estimates for Head 74, the Department of Court Services, begin on page B - 90 of the Estimates Book. A total of $4,590,000 has been allocated to Head …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam Attorney Ge neral. We are about to move to Head 75. We are going to give the Attorney General a second to prepare her-self and have some water. We are now about two and a half hours into the debate, and we will begin the next 30 …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam Attorney General . We will continue in this debate on Head 88, the last head to be debated for this Ministry. And that head is the National Drug Control. The Minister will resume as soon as she has her brief in front of her. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Let me just add that we have just about an hour and 10 minutes left in this debate. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Madam Chairman. And I will begin my presentation of Head 88, Department for National Drug control. HEAD 88 —DEPARTMENT FOR N ATIONAL DRUG CONTROL Hon. Kathy …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam Attorney General for your very comprehensive submission. Now we are continuing the debate on Heads 87, 3, 4, 74, 75 and 88. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to these heads?
Mr. Scott Pearman Good evening, Madam Chai rman.
The Chairman Chairman Good evening to you, Member.
Mr. Scott Pearman Madam Chairman, by my watch we are over three hours and 20 minutes through our four-hour debate.
Mr. Scott Pearman And we end it at 9:20.
The Chairman Chairman At 9:22.
Mr. Scott Pearman Nine twenty -two!
The Chairman Chairman Acco rding to the official time here.
Mr. Scott Pearman I will take the extra two minutes.
Mr. Scott Pearman And in the spirit of extra time, I want to make sure that the Honourable and Learned Minister has the opportunity to respond to the questions I have.
Mr. Scott Pearman And I can commend the Honourable and Learned Minister on her stamina. Madam Chairman, the Speaker has indicated that he had rather hoped that these would really focus on the word budget debate, and that it would not merely be questions and answers and questions and answers. And I am …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. You must. You must tie ever ything to whatever — [Crosstal k]
Mr. Scott Pearman Absolutely. Yes. And let me start at it at page B -71 of the Budget Book. Just by way of overview for the listening public, very briefly, this is the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Department. Last year the budget was $32.7 million . This was revised slightly downward at the …
The Chairman Chairman You may.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. At page 1087 some four years ago I sugges ted this: 1“But I would respectfully suggest that there is an opportunity here for this Ministry to harness this 1 Official Hansard Report , 13 March 2019 544 27 February 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly revenue- …
The Chairman Chairman I was going to call you out on that.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman No, I am at page B -95, item 85010. But there was a very serious thing said only a few weeks ago by our Director of Public Prosecutions. And now, again with your leave, Madam Chairman, this is the 11 February edition of the daily. And it says this, I …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. I have actually set my alarm to go off at 9:00 pm, so I sit down and close my mouth at that time and give a full 22 minutes to the Minister.
The Chairman Chairman Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman Still there, I note, and it is still on the same head, again Cri minal Law. I note that the updating of Bermuda’s fraud laws has been on hold since 2017 when the Fraud Act 2017 was not pr ogressed by this House. When I asked the Honourable and Learned …
The Chairman Chairman What page? What line item?
Mr. Scott Pearman This is page B -95, 85010, Director of Public Prosecutions.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman And those are my questions on criminal law, and I am just dealing with these very high-level . . . I am now turning to the Family Courts and this is line item 13010. And the courts themselves, the Civil and Commercial Courts are at 13060.
The Chairman Chairman What page, please?
Mr. Scott Pearman [Line item] 13010.
The Chairman Chairman Page?
Mr. Scott Pea rman It is under the Judiciary . . . let me give you the precise page. It is page B -79. Last year the Attorney General spoke of a summit of backlogged cases and a staggering i ncrease in family cases. Tonight during her brief to this Honourable House, the Attorney …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Heads 87, 3, 4, 74, 75 and 88? [No audible response]
The Chairman Chairman Any other Members? There being none, Minister. Oh, yes. I recognise the Member from consti tuency 25.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade I just have some, just a couple of questions. In regard to the child support collection of just over $3 million, which you s aid actually did not d ecrease during the pandemic as people did not have jobs. I guess I was trying to find out whether or not …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to the heads? [No audible response]
The Chairman Chairman Madam Attorney General, if you wish you may take the floor. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: How much time do I have, Madam Chairman?
The Chairman Chairman Twenty -one minutes. Yes. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Okay. So, I think it is important for me to set the landscape on who does what with regard to budget. And the Member will have heard, as you all have heard exhausti vely about the independence of the judiciary. And when …
The Chairman Chairman And he has said so, yes. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes. Court Services has been challenged for years, as has been Corrections, to retain psychologists. We just cannot compete. But yet year over year we have dedicated public officers who continue to provide the services. So, to our underpaid bench, …
The Chairman Chairman You have nine minutes left, Minister. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Okay. [Pause] Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Updating of fraud legislation. I am going to say what I said before. We are satisfied that the body of law that we have in relation to that subject matter currently meets the international …
The Chairman Chairman Well, let me just say this, Minister, while you are checking. Do we have any other Members who wish to speak to the heads? Minister, are you finished? Because we have Member Pearman on his [feet] who wishes to ask you another question. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Hang on. Let …
The Chairman Chairman Member Pearman, could you just take your seat for a second? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I am happy to take another question from the Member.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Member Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Madam Chairman. And thank you, Honourable and Learned Minist er. There was one more question that was not responded to in the previous batch. And that was the bit about the 25 per cent increase in child cases in 2022. I was not sure if I had misheard …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Madam Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons I do not have any defi ning characteristics for the 25 per cent in relation to child cases. And the backlog in cases is attribu table to the Supreme Court and not the Magistrates’ Court; that is correct. And I also mentioned in my brief that this is the remnant …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Heads 87, 3, 4, 74, 75 and 88? Member Pearman, I recognise you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Chairman. Just to follow up on the backlog point. And I am grateful for the confirmation that this is not in the Magistrates’ Court; it is only in the Supreme Court. How does the Honourable and Learned Minister envisage that backlog being cleared in terms of man and …
The Chairman Chairman Madam Attorney General? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Madam Chairman, so with regard to C ICB, we have made sure in the Mini stry that we have a dedicated administrative resource to service the board that is not linked to a particular magistrate. Remember that magistrate, the Worshipful Juan Wolffe, had …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam Attorney General. We are now three minutes to the end. I recognise Member Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Madam Chairman, I will venture my luck on one more. Last year when you were discussing the LST, which is the Life Skills Training, and the counselling for students in rel ation to drug issues, there were 40 students participating in the programme. This year you told this …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Madam Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons The likely answer is that it is the contribution of all of the factors that [the Honourable Member] raised. I do not have specifics on that. But I am happy to provide that from the director of NDC. But suffice it to say, it is a positive outcome for all …
Mr. Scott Pearman When you referenced constit utional reform, you picked your words very carefully and you said that we should expect a, quote, “fit for purpose constitutional model.” I am just curious what exactly that means in your view? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: That matter will be shared with the Cabinet before …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam Attorney General. Now, are there any other Members who wish to ask questions in the one minute remaining? There being none, Madam Attorney General, you may move your heads. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I think my recital has been lost with all of these papers. Give me …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Heads 87, 3, 4, 74, 75 and 88 be approved. Are there any objections? There being none . . . [Motion carried: The Minist ry of Legal Affairs and Constitutional Reform, Heads 87, 3, 4, 74, 75 and 88 were approved and stand part …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Commi ttee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress and sought leave to sit again.]
The Chairman Chairman We will ring the bell for the Speaker to resume his seat. [Pause] 550 27 February 2023 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly House resumed at 9 :24 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. Are there any objections to our returning back in the business of the House? There are none. Mr. Somner. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the next Order of Business . . . I believe everything else has been carried [fo rward] as far as legislation, or . . . are you g oing to do the Education Bill this evening? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, Minister of Education. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I now move that the Bill entitled the Education (Primary Schools) Temporary Act 2023 be now read for the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING EDUCATION (PRIMARY SCHOOLS) TEMPORARY ACT 2023 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, after the election defeat in 2012, the Progressive Labour Party campaigned and promised that we would do what was needed to reform our education system. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Jackson. You have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you and good evening.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I thank the Minister and the Education team, the Education Reform Unit, for the work that they have done to pull together this partic ular piece of our education reform, the parish primary school. Mr. Speaker, I happen to have been a child who had the privilege of going to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Minister Furbert, you have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good evening, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good evening to colleagues this evening. I do want to start off by just speaking to education reform. Because we have learnt many things throughout COVID -19, Mr. Speaker, as it relates to education. As a parent myself, I learnt much about my children, particularly …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It’s a travesty. Hon. Tinee Furbert: It was a travesty because the principal even signed off on it. But you know, we have to put attention to detail, attention to detail and understand that people are still making decisions and c hoices about their chi ldren’s education. I think people …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any Member? Mr. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we are discussing this Bill today and the general merits, I would like to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? None other. Minis ter. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I just want to take the time and thank everyone who did speak on this critically important topic. MP Jackson, thank you for …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister Hayward [sic]. [Laughter] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Minister Hayward? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: So thank you, Mr. Speaker. And before I do close— [Inaudible interjection] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I will get you later. [Laughter] Hon. Diallo V. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. House in Committee at 10:4 1 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman ] COMMITTEE ON BILL EDUCATION (PRIMARY SCHOOLS) TEMPORARY ACT 2023
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for consideration of the Bill entitled Education (Primary Schools) Temporary Act 2023 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move all 11 clauses.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Chairman, this Bill . . . clause 1 is self -explanatory. Clause 2 provides for this Act to apply notwithstanding anything to the contrary in the Education Act 1996 (the principal Act); and for the principal Act to operate in respect of primary …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? There appear to be none. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Ch airman: Yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I would like to move that clauses 1 through 11 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 11 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion car ried: Clauses 1 through 11 passed.] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved— [Inaudible interjection]
The Chairman Chairman Do the Schedule, yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Schedule be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Schedule be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. [Motion carried: Schedule passed.] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Chairman, I move that the pr eamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill entitled Education (Primary Schools) Temp orary Act 2023 be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House. [Motion carri ed: The Education (Primary Schools) Temporary Act 2023 was considered by a Committee of the …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 10:4 5 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE EDUCATION (PRIMARY SCHOOLS) TEMPORARY ACT 2023
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to the Educ ation (Primary Schools) Temporary Act 2023 being r eported to the House as printed? There are none. It has been reported. Thank you, Members, for your participation. Premier, the other matters are carried over for this evening. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Minister, would you like to do your third rea ding? SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled Education (Primary Schools) Temporary Act 2023 be now read …
The Speaker The Speaker Are th ere any objections? There are none. Continue. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING Bermuda House of Assembly EDUCATION (PRIMARY SCHOOLS) TEMPORARY ACT 2023 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled Education (Primary Schools) Temporary Act 2023 be now read …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read for the third by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Education (Primary Schools) Temporary Act 2023 was read a thi rd time and passed.] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Wednesday, the 1 st of March, I do bel ieve.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: And I do wish to speak on the motion to adjourn if no one else wishes to speak, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No one else looks like they are moving. Oh, Mr. Swan, are you leaving or are you up on your feet? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Just leaving? Okay. [Inaudible interjection and laughter ]
The Speaker The Speaker Your Member said you are leaving, Mr. Swan. Let me just reset the clock. Mr. Swan, you have your 20 minutes. DIVISIVENESS IN POLITICS DETRIMENTA L
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I could not allow the month of February to pass in the year of our Lord 2023 without offering a few remarks. I would have done so on the first sitting on February 3, a monumental day in my life, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Save and except for something far more important that I had to attend to. I just would like to start off by expressing my profound thanks for all of those persons who reached out and offered prayers to me and my fam ily, Mr. Speaker, during this difficult time, as …
The Speaker The Speaker I remember that day.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I do too. I never forget it. I never heard so many Listers and Roberts’s in my life. I never forget saying to the Honourable Jim Woolridge . . . he saw me with my head down between my knees down on Gorham Road there, and said, What’s wrong, young …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan When they are founded on divisiveness. I should know. The Honourable Member, Minister Furbert (he might have gone, he might be listening on the radio) would know as well that when your party can guarantee 95- plus per cent of one demographic before you go to the polls, irrespective of …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I know, Mr. Speaker, that there should be some collaboration, al beit that when you speak for finance, usually you are the au-thority. But given that persons like Mr. Richards, who is no longer in the House, or Dr. Clarence James [who] has passed away, and your Dr. [David] …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And persons have to ask thems elves that situation. And I feel that in this i nstance, the Opposition L eader needs to ask himself that situation because sometimes you need to bite your tongue and work it out as a team. And I watched them, you know ; I …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan You know, I heard the interpolations. I only got 7- 1. One thing, I never ran away from myself. I never ran away from myself. I have given honour and praise where it is necessary, and I have stood up and been honest with it . I never ran away …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan We welcome ever ybody from all walks of life.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier But you ain’t got everybody.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan No. But I tell you what. When you wake up and go to the polls, you know that a certain demographic is going to vote for you irr espective of how disjointed you are. And that is hurting this country. I am appealing to our White brothers and si sters …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Right? Certain things put in there that would cause people . . . because, you know . . . Look , a lot can slip between the cup and the lip, they always used to say. Milton Scott always used to say that down in the Senate. And when you …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? MP Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. CASH APP COMING TO BERMUDA
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, sometimes when you forge into new territory, others cannot see what you are doing. My mind goes back to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella. They wanted to go to the New World, Mr. Speaker. You know the story. And Christ opher Columbus goes to them. And Christopher C …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Wayne Caines In 2018, the Digital Asset Bus iness Act came into place, [known as] DABA. This a llowed us to create licenc es and a sandbox legislation. It put regulation in place around FinTech companies. [Bermuda], t he first country to do so —to put a fram ework around digital assets, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Caines. Yes. Minister Premier, you can have the floor now. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I was expecting to speak a little earlier. My computer is running out of battery, so I have to plug it in. All right, Mr. Speaker. What time is it? The …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: As I said in my present ation, there was no intention of implying that the Premier was corrupt. I would like to repeat my comments. He had a positive view on the Island’s economy and future. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I do not know if the Honourable Member is losing his . . . you k now cannot remember from one day to the next. But he said “vast increase in personal wealth.” Don’t. Don’t. Don’t. Not tonight. 568 27 February 2023 …
The Speaker The Speaker The Honourable Member. Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry. Honourable Member. But I am happy that he did because he gave me something else for my motion to adjourn which is going to demonstrate the challenge that this country faces with an Opposition that is so unprepared for governance that they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Members, this brings us to a close for this evening. And we thank you for your participation on this first day of the debate on the Estimates of Rev enue for the respective ministries. Ministe r Premier, you already indicated we would be returning here on …
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