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House of Assembly Session 2022/2023 475 speeches

November 18, 2022

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Session Summary

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This was a routine parliamentary session focused on government ministers delivering statements rather than debating legislation. The Premier announced a mortgage guarantee program that has already received 91 applications from Bermudians seeking to buy homes. The Attorney General provided an update on constitutional reform work, including a report examining Bermuda's readiness for greater self-governance. Other ministers updated Parliament on education reform, planning law changes, road works, youth programs, and health planning initiatives.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Nov 18, 2022
Session 2022/2023
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Speakers 30
Speeches 475

Key Topics

New $50 million government mortgage guarantee program to help first-time homebuyersConstitutional reform update and assessment of Bermuda's self-governance optionsDevelopment and planning law changes to streamline building use permitsEducation reform progress with new parish primary schoolsMajor island-wide road construction and utility work updates

Bills & Motions

Development and Planning Amendment Bill 2022 was tabled (allows planning rule changes through simpler legislative process)
No bills were debated or voted on during this session

Notable Moments

Premier emphasized that 91 Bermudians have applied for the new mortgage program, which reduces down payments from 20% to 10% and offers 5% interest rates
Attorney General clarified there is "no formula or pathway to sovereignty for Bermuda which excludes an unambiguous democratic mandate from the Bermuda electorate"
Minister of Works acknowledged the poor state of roads due to ongoing utility work but said permanent repairs are beginning

Debate Transcript

475 speeches from 30 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. Ms. Beale will lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the House is now in session. [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 4 November 202 2]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of November 4, 2022, have been circulated. Are there any amendments or corrections? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 4 November 202 2 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the announcements this morning are from Members who have indicated their absence today. The Honourable Member Jamahl Simmons, Honourable Member Zane De Silva, Honourable Member Crystal Caesar, Honourable Member Curtis Dickinson and Honourable Member Scott Pearman have all indicated their absence today. You will note on the Order Paper …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no ne. I believe we have a dozen or so Statements this morning. And the first is in the name of the Premier. Premier, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. E. David Bur t: Good morning to you, Mr. Speaker. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Oh, Mr. Premier, just before you start let me make one announcement. The technical officer, Mr. Lamb, is not with us today. There is an alternative member who is going to assist. However, to find the stuff, all information that we would normally go to SharePoint on, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, and good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to Members of the Legi slature and also the listening public.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT BILL 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, today I am t abling the Bill entitled the Development and Planning Amendment Act 2022 [the Bill]. This Bill proposes to amend section 14 of the Development and Planning Act 1974 (the Act) to allow an …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Attorney General. Would you like to present your Statement at this stage? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Good morning, Mr. Speaker , and t hank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. UPDATE ON CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, I rise t oday to update this Honourable House on the project of constitutional reform for Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda's Constitution is a live instrument that must remain relevant to the needs and aspirations of our p eople, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorney General . The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. PARISH PRIMARY SCHOOLS Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to update this Honourable House and the listening public on the exciting work that is taking place to reform the public education system in Bermuda. Before I do that, however, I would like to remind …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. UPDATE ON ISLAND -WIDE ROADWORKS
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, this morning I would like to provide this Honourable House with a further report on the state of the Island’s roads and the various ongoing trenching works. Mr. Speaker, it is worth repeating some of what was said at the beginning of this exercise. In a Ministerial Statement …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Social Development and Se niors. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, colleagues. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, good morning. Bermuda House of Assembly MIRRORS PROGRAMME —AN UPDATE Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise today to provide an update to this Honourable House and the general public about the current activ ities as it relates to the Mirrors Programme and the recent …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning i s in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. JOINT STRATEGIC NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR BERMUDA Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members, last month I set out th e steps the Gover nment of Bermuda is taking to deliver on its promise to implement universal health coverage for all residents. In particular, the work [is] …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Jason Haywar d: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to table the Bill entitled the Bermuda Immigration and Protection Amendment Act 2022 [BIPA]. The purpose of this Bill is to clarify and strengthen the provisions relating to the unrestricted period of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is also yours, Minister. EMPLOYMENT (MINIMUM WAGE ENTITLEMENT) BILL 2022 Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, again. I am pleased to rise to provide the Members of this Honourable House an ov erview of the Emplo yment (Minimum Wage Entitlement) Bill …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Minister up this morning for a Stat ement is the Minister of Transport. Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly CRUISE SHIPS —A POSITIVE WAY FORWARD Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise before the Honourable House today to share with my …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Tourism and the Cabinet O ffice. Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you, my colleagues and the listening public.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. TOURISM 2022— AN OVERVIEW OF THE THIRD QUARTER TOURISM PERFORMANCE Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, as we meet t oday in this Honourable House, the Bermuda Tourism Authority [BTA] is hosting the Bermuda Tourism Summit 2022. Organisers have invited tourism stak eholders, business owners and members of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning, which is the final Statement, is in the name of the Minister of N ational Security. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. COMMUNITY VIOLENCE WORKSHOP Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to give this Honourable House an update on the Community Violence Workshop that was held at the end of September. Mr. Speaker, you will recall that in May of this year, I made a Statement to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that brings us to a close of the Statements for this morning. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Speaker The Speaker Before I move on, I would just like to acknowledge in the Gallery here former Member of Parliament, Mr. Walter Lister, who has graced us with his presence this morning. Welcome to the Chamber. [Desk thumping] REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker We have questions this morning. The first q uestion is for the Premier in reference to his Statement. Premier, you have a question from the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader. QUESTION 1: NEW $50 MILLION GUARANTEE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regard to the $250,000 guarantee …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the answer is it is between the Government of Bermuda and the bank, as stated in the Statement.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Can the Minister provide the criteria for the application of the guarantee to the individuals applying for a mortgage? The Spe aker: Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: I am not entirely certain of the question. I think the Statement did refer …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Second.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supp. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Okay.
Ms. Sus an E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, I have one. 22 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Supplementary? Okay. MP Jackson. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you. Good mor ning, Mr. Speaker. My question is around the bank relationship with the buyer. So will Government be assisting any of the buyers who may be at another bank and want to move over to BCB [Bermuda Commercial Bank] in order to participate in this guarantee …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Your second question? QUESTION 2: NEW $50 MILLION GUARANTEE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Minister of Finance confirmed that the term for the guarantee is 10 years. Now, if you are in the business you will know that the mortgages will last for 10, 15, 20, and …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: If the mort gage is not paid, people will c ontinue to pay on their m ortgage. B ut the guarantee is for a maximum of 10 years becaus e the guarant ee is for a specific portion. T he guarantee could fall off prior …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplementary. As there will be added risk to the bank because the guarantee is taken away, is the Premier aware that the mortgage may have to be re-underwritten because the application and the criteria for issuing the initial mortgage had changed? So it …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not necessarily agree with what the Opposition Leader is saying. I am happy to have a fulsome discussion with him. And if he can come to the Ministry of Finance he can get the full background on …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary ?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Supplemental.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Opposition Whip. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The supplemental question: Does the Ho nourable Premier know if this programme will impact the bank’s regulatory capital at all? That is, the level of capital the bank is required to hold to facilitate the programme.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: What I can say is that the bank, with the Ministry of Finance, certainly worked with the regulator to ensure that all was in place. So I am not entirely certain what the Honourable Opposi tion Member is asking specifically. But what I can say …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Okay, yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. As you know, Mr. Speaker, I worked in banking. And I heard the Premier’s response in regard to my question about, after 10 years. I would jus t like for the Premier to understand . . . or …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Third question? None? Okay. Thank you. Premier, those are the only questions for you today. Thank you, Members. The next questions this morning are for the Attorney General. Madam Attorney General, you have questions from a few Members. The first is from the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader. QUESTION 1: …
The Speaker The Speaker Madam Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The report that was commissioned from Dr. Corbin is miles apart from the Bermuda Independence Commission report, and it is very specific to the su bject matter as far as it deals with the indicators of self - sufficiency …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Can the Attorney General provide more details on the deficiencies that were presented in the Bermuda Independence Commi ssion’s report of 2005?
The Speaker The Speaker Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My report today was not focused on the def iciencies of the Bermuda Independence [Commi ssion’s] report. It was drawing a comparison in terms of the work that has not been completed subsequent to that report, which we as a …
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary or a new question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: New question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. QUESTION 2: UPDATE ON CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: In accordance with good governance, can the Attorney General make a co mmitment to this House that the report will n ot only show the benefits, but also show the challenges in regard to the options presented in …
The Speaker The Speaker Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The report will be comprehensive —it is co mprehensive with regard to the issues that [the Honourable Member] raised. I am sure when it is tabled in this House on December 2, the Member will be able to get a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, that’s it.
The Speaker The Speaker No question. Third question? None? Okay. Attorney General, MP Cannonier would like to put questions to you as well. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON CONS TITUTIONAL REFORM
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Minister for this Stat ement. I was hoping to hear more about it. Since my 24 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly time in Parliament, this discussion has been had on and off. So my …
The Speaker The Speaker Madam Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Cabinet is awar e of direction of travel with regard to the constitutionally informing at the appr opriate time. The Government is always ready and wil ling to best inform the public. There is no secrecy around this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? No? No further questions. Thank you. Attorney General, the next Member who has questions for you is the Opposition Whip. Opposition Whip. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Honourable Attorney General. Mr. Speaker, my question relates to page 13 of the Attorne y General’s Statement. To be clear, starting with, “To be absolutely clear, there is no for-mula or pathway to sovereignty for Bermuda which excludes an unambiguous democratic mandate …
The Speaker The Speaker Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is for the Gov ernment to determine. There are various options, and the two that he men-tioned are options for this Government to consider at the appropriate time. But let us be clear, the dem ocratic will of this …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary, just to be clear. It is either result. It is either a referendum or it is the result of a general election. Both would be de fined as “unambi guous democratic mandate.”
The Speaker The Speaker Were you looking for a question out of that?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Oh, I’m sorry. I will rephrase.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I was looking for a question from that.
Mr. Jarion Richardson For the avoidance of doubt, did the Honourable Attorney General say that either a referendum or a general election would be sufficient to demonstrate an “unambiguous democratic mandate”?
The Speaker The Speaker Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Correct.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Any further s upplementaries or questions? Okay. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Hang on.
The Speaker The Speaker Oops, supplementary. Yes. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Can the Attorney General confirm that they would prefer to have a general election over a referendum? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that clearly the Opposition is stretching this morning. I suggest that he wait …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. No further supplementaries. No further questions. Thank you, Madam Attorney General. Thank you, Members. Bermuda House of Assembly The next Statement this morning for questions is— [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker The next Statement this morning for questions is that of the Minister of Works. Minister of Works, you have two Members who have indicated questions so far, the Opposition Spokesman for Works, MP Cannonier. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON ISLAN D-WIDE ROADWORKS
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. Thank you again, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Minister for that update. I share in his sentiment of the frustration of all of the work that has to be done. I am actually glad that the work is being done. It needs to get done so …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information with me off the top of my head. But I can give an undertaking to provide it to the House at a later date.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or a second question? None. Okay. Minister, the Opposition Whip also has questions for you. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON ISLAND -WIDE ROADW ORKS
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Minister. Would the Honourable Minister clarify or have any information relating to, given that there are so many traffic interruptions on the road and it will be that way fo r a little bit going forward, is there any place that …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, there was a map produced about a year ago that set out all of the locations. (That is the wrong map.) I can ensure that it is issued again, but it was very comprehensive in terms of identifying all of the locations where the work is being carried …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? None. MP Jackson, supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Mr. Speaker, would the Minister please pr ovide any information about whether there would be a similar schedule or mapping of any road repaving as a part of the scheme to repave the roads once the roadworks have been completed? He mentioned in the Ministerial Statement that there …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. B urch Mr. Speaker, no, there is not a schedule and there is not a map. What I said in the Statement was that the work had begun on Harrington Sound Road, and that is what is being carried out at present. And it will go all the way to Flatts Vi …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And if they see me pulled over to the side of the road on the way to Hamilton, it is because I have stopped to send an email to potholes@gov.bm so that they can go out and fill them in. Anybody could send an email to potholes@gov.bm and they will …
The Speaker The Speaker I was going to ask you that question, Minister. So thank you. Anyone can send stuff. Good. Any supplementaries?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, just one.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson The Minister had mentioned that the budget for this year is being used for the r epaving. And I know that this is speculation, but can the Minister give any indication that there will be a priority to increase, maybe substantially increase, the paving budget for 2023/24, given the fact …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. I think she is trying to assist you for the budget.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I do not think it was $60,000 that was given for paving. I do not know. (Give me two seconds; I will tell you.) [Pause]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch It depends. You can find figures everywhere. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch You can! This is on page C -6 under Capital Development, Roadworks, half a million dollars . [Cross talk]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson There is one line that says Paving.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Roads, asphalt and signs. That is it? $100,000.
The Speaker The Speaker I think our question, Minister, was, Will you be getting an increase in next year’s budget?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Let me say that I will put in the request to the Ministry of Finance and see if we can have some success there. Because I am sure that the Minister of Finance gets as many of the complaints about roadworks as I do, which suggests to me that people …
The Speaker The Speaker There are a couple of spots in Somerset I could name, too. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker There are a few in Somerset we could name, but we leave that for now. Thank you, Minister. Minister, there are no further questions for [that Statement]. The next Statement that has questions this morning is the Statement from the Minister of Economy and Labour in reference to Bermuda Immigration …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And again, thank you to the Honourable Minister for bringing this Statement forward. On page 2 of his Statement he speaks to the problem that he is seeking to remediate in the Berm uda Immigration and Protection Act. Could the Minister elaborate on why having more …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Having more people residing in Bermuda is not a problem. The problem is visitors who land in Bermuda as visitors [who] then determine that they want to reside in Bermuda without getting necessary permission. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Supplementary? Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson None. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Minister, that was short and sweet . That was the only question for you. We will move on to the next Statement. The next Statement that has a question this morning is for the Minister of Transport. Minister, you have a question from MP Cannonier. MP Cannonier. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for the update from the Minister. I got a bit confused about some of the percentages, and I am hoping for some clarity. I think the first question that I have is, Can the Minister tell us typically how far …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, we normally work on a unit base, so we are trying to project for 2023.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. So my supplemental question is, I am trying to understand because the Minister says that the PLP Government is responsible for 19 per cent of the increase. So when I look at the numbers for 2017, he mentioned 2016 numbers. But 2017, there was an election in July. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I think what we are talking about at that time, in 2016 there were 397,000, number of passengers. Okay? Here is the key point. In 2022, it was 395,000. But the real ec onomic impact came under the Progressive Labour Party. And that …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I mean, listen. I heard this Statement back in 2019, I think it was something like that. The same thing! Exact same information was said. My point is that the numbers here . . . can he explain the misleading numbers here? They are not …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member, for some reason, ignores that $157 million increase in economic activity. He talks about increase in charges. Under the leadership of the Honourable David Burt in 2019 we recognise and recall those ships [which were doing the dredging.] They …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, two supplementaries.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Supplemental.
The Speaker The Speaker You had your two supplementaries.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier He is not answering the question!
The Speaker The Speaker You asked your two supps. You can make a third—
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier He is not answering the question! [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. You can make a second question. Make a second question, but it will be a new question.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes. I have got a lot of questions! [Crosstalk and laughter ]
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 2: CRUISE SHIPS —A POSITIVE WAY FORWARD
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Is it fair to say then that your figure of 19 per cent increase reflects also 2017 ’s cruise line numbers increasing and revenue increasing? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, would you r ather have $156 million in your bank, or would you have 19 per cent increase …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am asking the question. You are not asking the question. You are not answering!
The Speaker The Speaker I think he is trying to tie it down to a specific period.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker But put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Listen. These numbers are not correct. Is the Honourable Minister going to take it upon himself to correct these numbers? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, here is what we said. Here is what we said — [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah, ah! Keep it parliamentary. Keep it parliamentary. Keep it parliamentary. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Here is what we said, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah, ah! We do not need assi stance. You can answer. We missed your answer in the back -and-forth. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, here is what we said. Since the PLP has been in Government in 2017, there has been increase of 19 per cent in …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Regarding the increased number of cruise calls to Bermuda, my question to the Minister is whether there is any thought b eing given and work/collaboration with Public Works and the like, WEDCO, to make sure that the infrastructure, which will be ageing every season, whether the infrastructure is being examined …
The Speaker The Speaker You can rise. POINT OF ORDE R
Mr. Jason Wade Point of order. I just heard multiple questions asked.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. I was following you. I was trying to figure out if there was one specific question that you wanted to put. I was listening intently to see whether you were tying i t up as one.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson All right. I will just leave it at, Is the Ministry of Transport then collaborating with Public Works and other agencies to make sure the infrastructure is suitable and appropriate for the i ncreased number of cruise ships that are being arranged for the coming season?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker No further supplementaries?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. I’m sorry, Mr. Speaker. Did he answer?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, he answered.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. That is all I needed. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. Minister, this brings us to a close of the questions for that Statement. The last Statement that indicated that there are questions this morning is the Statement from the Minister of National Security. Minister, the Opposition Whip has a question for you. QUESTION 1: COMMUNITY VIOLENCE WORKSHOP
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Honourable Minister for bringing this Statement to th e House. My question relates to the final strategy. When will that be drafted and circulated? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you for the question. I do not want to give an exact date. …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you for your response. Before I take the supplementary, I did overlook that there was a question for the Minister of Tourism as well. So, Minister, there will be questions for you. Is there a s upplementary to the response from the Minister of National Security?
Mr. Jarion Richardson No, but a second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question, yes. QUESTION 2: COMMUNITY VIOLENCE WORKSHOP
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Will this strategy, or has there been any deli berations that will interrupt the current policing strategy to disrupt and deter criminal organisations?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: The simple answer to that is yes. We will be looking at overarching strategy to bring in all of these different strategies so we can work together.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson None, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No third question? None. Okay. Let us just go back to the Statement from the Minister of Tourism. Minister, MP Cannonier has a question for you. QUESTION 1: TOURISM 2022 —AN OVERVIEW OF THE THIRD QUARTER TOURISM PERFORMANCE
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Minister mentions Fairmont Southampton Princess. I am just curious . Are we still on schedule for the summer of 2023 for completion? [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier [It is] 2024? [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 30 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly As far as I know, the target date has not changed. But I can inquire and bring that information back.
The Speaker The Speaker Do you want to come back to the House with the — Hon. Vance Campbell: I will pose the question and come back with the answer to that quest ion.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, okay. MP, supplementary or second question? QUESTION 2: TOURISM 2022— AN OVERVIEW OF THE THIRD QUARTER TOURISM PERFORMANCE
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you very much, Mini ster. Also, second question: You mentioned about transport challenges, one of the number -one issues with tourism was transport challenges. Can the Ho nourable Minister give us any idea or thoughts on how they are going to alleviate thi s? I know they are in …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: As I said in my Statement, my Ministry . . . I will get together with the Minister of Transport, as well as the BTA. And we will l ook at s olutions for this.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplementary, yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I have been told by a co uple of taxi drivers that the shipping agent . . . the shipping desk told their clients, Do not take taxis on Su nday because they are very expensive. We suggest that you find other …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: I have not heard this before. And I believe the Leader of the Opposition could have posed this question directly to the shipping agent.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Supplementary? No supplementary. MP Cannonier, do you have a third question?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No, t hank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Members, that now brings us to a close of the Question Period. And we thank you, Members, for your participation. We thank you for the responses from the Ministers. And it was most appreciated. We now move on. CONGRATULATOR Y AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker I am just trying to reset our clock here. For some reason it does not want to reset. There . . . just clear it. There you go. Would any Member like to make a contribution at this time?
Mrs. Renee Ming Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker MP Ming, you are on your feet. I missed that.
Mrs. Renee Ming I have been standing for a minute here.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Go right ahead. The clock is all set for you.
Mrs. Renee Ming Surely.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mrs. Renee Min g On a sad note first of all, I would like to give thoughts and prayers to the family of . . . funny, I do not even know her first name, because Mrs. Peach , is what I have always called her, from St. George’s on Cut Road. Her son …
Mrs. Renee Ming And a hearty congratulations to . . . this morning we had our Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast, so thank you to the organiser of that, and al so to the member who brought somewhat of a sermon t oday, Pastor Cyril as he is commonly called in St. George’s, for his …
The Speaker The Speaker He is a Somerset supporter, though.
Mrs. Renee Ming He does support Somerset —
Mrs. Renee Ming But we will continue to pray for him.
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. He is wise like your daughter. He has got wisdom like your daughter. How is that?
Mrs. Renee Ming And my last one, Mr. Speaker, is to the RAA [Royal Artillery Association] club in St. George’s because they hosted the remembrance ser-vice and wreath- laying in St. George’s last weekend. They explained the difficulty in keeping that service going. But they manage to do it every year and also …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? I recognise the Opposition Leader. We will start with the Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. I have quite a bit, so I am going to go by things quickly.
The Speaker The Speaker There we go. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I would like to send condolences to the family of Charlie Marshall, as we all know that he was very instrumental in the develop-ment of our young people through football. He was commi tted to football all of his life, committed to …
The Speaker The Speaker I would suggest the entire House. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. I will be happy to associate the entire House with those comments. I would like to also send condolences to [the family of] a dear friend of mine who passed, Ralph Oggiano Smith. He worked in Works and …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: So it was very, very em otional for a number of family members. I would like to also associate myself with the comments made about Dwight Robinson. I saw him on TV last night, and he was talking about his new role as career …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker, I see you have been standing before anyone else got a chance. 32 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker I was going to look to someone who was ahead of you, but you are on your feet. Go right ahead. Hon. De rrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the remarks concerning the Honourable Member Cole and my cousins …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. MP Cannonier. Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On a high note, I want to thank the Minister on some of the work that he has been doing. I had the opport unity last night to meet with Elliot School, so Principal Cr eighton. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And Lindsay, Senator Lindsay. Ah, yes indeed. And on an even greater note last year — [Honourable Minister] Weeks will appreciate this here— we talked about Dandy Town, the senior team and the junior team. And I just want to say that I had the opportunity. Again, my friendships are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, MP. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Did I catch your eye? The Sp eaker: Well, I am trying to . . ., did you catch my eye for condolences? Hon. E. David Burt: I am.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? Go right ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: I am not up for adjournment.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today on two notes of condolences. The first and I do not want to make assum ptions for the other side, but I would certainly like to associate the Members of our side …
The Speaker The Speaker We are getting close to that time. But the Premier failed to mention part of that evening. We had him sing the West End song. You did not mention that. He and Mr. Best and Mr. Burgess. [Inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker The bubbles! You did not know the bubbles song? Mr. Premier, I think you should do a rendition for them. They do not seem to know the song. Would you like to do it now for us? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I think that might be unparliamentary. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker All right. There appear to be many Members who still wish to give condolences and congratulatory remarks . We are at 12:30. If there were only a couple of Members I would probably proceed on and then go to lunch so that we can start with the Reply. But it …
The Speaker The Speaker Quite a few Members. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker I have seen quite a few Members trying to get my attention. With that being the case— Premier, I am going to ask that we go ahead and break now, and we will co me back at two. We will finish the condolences and congratulations, and then we will proceed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premi er. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House now adjourn for lunch, to come back at 2:00 pm.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the House now stands adjourned until 2:00 pm. 34 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:04 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. I trust that everyone had a nice lunch break. We are now going to resume. We were in the process of doing the condolences and congratul ations. So we will continue in that spot. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker The House is now back in session. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES [Continuation thereof]
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to condolences or congratulations? MP Swan, I see you are still on your feet. I am assuming you would like your three minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start off by offering hearty congratulations to all of those responsible for putting on a very successful Butterfield Bermuda Championship at the illustrious Port Royal Golf Course at the end of October. The Bermuda Tourism Authority, headed up by Ms. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member.
The Speaker The Speaker Would any other Member? I recognise the Honourable Minister of Se niors and Social Development. Honourable Minister, you h ave the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also would like to start off with congratulatory remarks. And this is particularly going out to the Child …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Minister. Your time. Hon. Tinee Furbert: —a very well -know n educator, Mr. Speaker, and just wanting to give condolences in that regard. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Before I acknowledge anyone else, let me just acknowledge Madam President [of the Senate], who is here sitti ng in the Chamber with us this afternoon. Welcome. Deputy Premier, you have your three minutes. [Congratulatory and/or Obituary Speeches continu ing] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: So co ndolences to that whole family. [I would like to be] associated with the cond olences to the family of Mr. Quinton Ming, Tiny Ming, a former constituent of mine, who had a great passion for the community of North Shore when he lived …
The Speaker The Speaker I do not think so. Hon. Walter H. Roban: The wife of Dr. [Richmond] Delmont Simmons. She passed away a couple of weeks ago?
The Speaker The Speaker I do not think it has been done yet. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I think we all know Dr. De lmont Simmons and his wife. Dr. Delmont Simmons is one of the earl y practitioners of his particular profession. He is retired now, I believe. But many in the community …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. 36 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Any other Member? I recognise the Minister of Education. Minister, you have your three minutes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the remarks for Mr. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oggiano. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Oggiano, whom [Honour able Member] Cole Simons should know. He was a very, very good friend of my dad and was absolutely devastated when my dad passed. So I understand that he was sick for a little bit, and he ended up . . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Tyrrell got up before you that time, Mini ster. So, MP Tyrrell. You have your three minutes.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon, colleagues.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, I will commence my remarks by associating with the comments already made for Ms. McKenzie- Kohl [Tuckett], a very brilliant young lady whom I have known for quite a while. A ctually, I had the opportunity to chair the GEHI pr ogramme with the administrator, her mother, Keechia …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell It was about five years that I did that, and during that time a lot of the time was spent after meetings talking about our kids. And McKenzie’s name came up so often. I j ust want to certainly say how proud I am sure she is of McKenzie today. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to— Minister Weeks. Minister Weeks, you have your three minutes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker; good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start off my r emarks by associating my comments with [Major] Dwight Robinson, a member …
The Speaker The Speaker Giving a word of encouragement, right?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Encouragement was great, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes. There you go.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell I heard some chirping. But I do attend church, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. S peaker, also before I take my seat, I want to associate those remarks for Mr. Quinton Tiny Ming with the Minister Vance Campbell. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, sir. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Si mmons -Wade, you have your three minutes. Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, everyone. I would like to send my congratulations to Warwick Workmen’s Club, who recently celebrated their …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. MP Lister, you rose before anyone else. I guess you have your three minutes.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. I would first like to just start off on a sombre note giving condolences. First off to Ms. Inez Furbert of 3 Clouds Avenue, a constituent of mine, so sending condolences to her family. Next to Mr. Dennis Figureido. While I did not know him, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes.
Mr. Dennis Lister III —won the Dudley Eve Cup over Dandy Town. So I would like to— 38 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You associate the whole House with that, you know.
Mr. Dennis Lister III I will associate the whole House.
The Speaker The Speaker Associate the whole House. Yes.
Mr. Dennis Lister III But I would like to send congratulations to the mighty Somerset Trojans for wi nning the Dudley Eve Cup. Also, Mr. Speaker, and I can associate Mini ster Rabain with these comments. This past weekend our very own Rian “8track” Williams, who is a producer, produced a song that was …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Okay, just nominated.
The Speaker The Speaker Nominated. Nominated.
Mr. Dennis Lister III So hopefully, they can win the award and bring some recognition to Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Dunkley, you have your three minutes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the comments of congratulations by Honourable Members and certainly the …
The Speaker The Speaker Good. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Even though some might think it was wasted time, Mr. Speaker, but not I. I associate with the condolences by the O pposition Leader to Bill Dolan, and certainly by the O pposition Leader to former Senator Charlie Marshal. I guess you could sum him …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And quite often he gave so much that people wondered why he was doing it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish— MP Anthony Richardson.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You have your three minutes.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Hello, Members and those in the listening audience. I just wanted to stand really to specifically associate m yself with the comments of condolences to many persons who have actually been mentioned a lready, but they are all in my constituency. I want to make sure that I reinforce that. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Jackson, you have your three minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Yes. I would just take a few moments because I would like to be associated with the condolences to the family of Trudy Snaith. [She] certainly is going to be a miss, a huge influence on women both in Bermuda and overseas. And I certainly had had the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Colonel?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I would like to be associated with the congratulations to McKenzie- Kohl Tuckett. I watched the presentation in the House of 40 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Assembly, and I could not have been prouder. I mean, she really just was outstanding. The London Office …
The Speaker The Speaker Good!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And they are undertaking to look after the railway trails in conjunction with the Department of Parks. This is an impressive demonstration of international businesses’ commi tment to this country by their resources, not just by their funding. [At] the reception certificates were presented to these companies, and they all …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? There are none. Let me just make a couple of comments m yself before we pass on. And I will start where the Mi nister left off. I would like to be associated with the …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: I believe we have six Government Bills today. The first is in the name of the Minister of F inance and Premier. Would you like to introduce your Bill? FIRST READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (NO. 4) …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The second Bill is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy. FIRST READING FUELS AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you like to do the third one? FIRST READING DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you. The next introduction of a Bill is from the Mi nister of Education. Minister. FIRST READING BERMUDA EDUCATORS COUNCIL AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so it may be placed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Economy and Labour. FIRST READING S EMPLOYMENT (MINIMUM HOURLY WAGE ENTITLEMENT) ACT 2022 BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bills for their first reading so that they may be placed on the Order Paper for the next …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would y ou like to do your next one? Hon. Jason Hayward: I did both of them.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. You read quickly that time, Minister. Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no Opposition Bills. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker This now leads us to the Orders of the Day. And the reason we are here this afternoon is to have the Reply to the Throne Speech that was deli vered on the 4th of November. The camera coverage 42 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I am going to ask that when we finish the Reply from the Opposition Leader, we take a five-minute recess just so he can dismantle the camera work and be out of here, and we will continue after that. Is that all right, Members? Thank you. The last piece …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? I believe not. Continue on. Now we call on the Opposition Leader to make his presentation. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members,
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. REPLY TO THE SPEECH FROM THE THRONE, BY THE OPPOSITION LEADER Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: It gives me great pleasure to deliver the official response to the Government’s Speech from the Throne, which outlines the PLP Government’s plans for the coming parliamentary year. Mr. Speaker, as Catherine …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, the Honourable Member, Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Cole Simons. Can we adjourn for five minutes to just r emove the cameras? And then we will resume. Thank you. [Pause]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The resumption of the Throne Speech debate. First up will be the Member with Go vernment, the Hono urable Minister Jason Hayward. You may take your seats. DEBATE ON THE 2022 THRONE SPEECH AND REPLY Hon. Jason Hayward: Good afternoon, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank you for allowing me time to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I am not tak ing a point of i nformation. We listened to you. This is the first r esponse. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: He is misleadin g the House because I am retired. I no longer work for a bank.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Continue, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: That's the caveat?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member How long was he there? How long were they in Government? What did they do? Nothing! [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. Jason Hayward: Loughlands is a community built by whom? For whom, Mr. Deputy Speaker? How many families continue to benefit from that seed of justice that was planted? The Housing …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. Hayward. Are there any further speakers? There are no further speakers.
Mr. Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley premier Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am a little slow getting out of my seat.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You have those fancy red socks on. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, I know, but I just had to pull them up before I stood up. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am obviously pleased to have the opportunity to speak today. I have spoken on a number of different Throne Speeches …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member is completely mi sleading this House. The record will reflec t on the matter of the airport, there was a press conference two weeks …
The Speaker The Speaker Be mindful of that, Member, and continue on. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I hear the Honourable Premier, but I will move on. I have to di sagree with what the Honourable Premier says, Mr. Speaker, because it is clear that this Opposition is willing to listen and work …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Minister Wayne Furbert, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to stand once again to debate or discuss the Throne Speech. Mr. Speaker, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You like that. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Oh, yes, I like that fine. [Laughter ] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: And [she] said, You know, I'm the Shadow Minister. I was not aware who the Bermuda House of Assembly Shadow Minister was. But I was glad to be once again, talking …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: —long term, over six months. So this Government understands that retail stores, in regard to deferment of duty. So it has been in existence for a while. So Honourable Member, I just want to . . . I did not want to embarrass that gentl …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member . . . MP Jackson, you rise to take your spot on the order?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. And somewhat coincidental, or com pleme ntary, that I get to follow the Minister of Transport, one, because I do not want to speak too much to transport issues this evening. I have another concern of priority. And the other reason why I found it quite complementary is …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of clarification. Would you like to take the point?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Sure. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you for mentioning that. I did want to let you know that the Child Development programme still does exist. This will be an enhancement of that. Everything that you have spoken to still exists. They visit you in the hospital. …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson If that had been in the Throne Speech, we could have saved . . . we could have saved a little time. So I am going to move on. I am going to move on, because I felt as though we were experiencing a similar situation. Hon. Diallo V. S. …
The Speaker The Speaker Oh! [Inaudible int erjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, Mr. Speaker, as I look again through some of the initiatives that have been introduced or are going to be expanded upon during this next session of Parliament, I do reflect on things like the Child Day Care Allowance Act 2008 and the amendments that will be included in …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, while you are looking for your next point, you did start at 5:57, which means you will stop at 6:17 pm, being the clock started late. So you have about 17 minutes left, rather than 22 [minutes].
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you so much, sir. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So going back to the initial vision, Mr. Speaker, I believe that there are a number of people in Bermuda across the board of all demographics, people in Bermuda that have a hope that this Government, young, bright, energetic, would really …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, you have just about two minutes left.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Well, then, with that Mr. Speaker, I will take my seat. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Any other Member? MP Anthony Richardson.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes. Good evening, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Members may not realise it, but this is actually the first time that I really had a chance to speak in the House in this in this format, because once I got elected, we went through the COVID -19 experience and had so many remote sessions. So I am very …
Mr. Anthony Richardson What a first start. And a few of the previous speakers spoke to the fact that the picture or the illustration on the front is of, what? Green shoots, which speaks to what the PLP has talked about all along —we have to have these shoots and they will grow …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on.
Mr. Anthony Richardson What I often do is refer to an analogy which goes back to some degree of my childhood. And that is part of my childhood was, well, in my middle years, actually, was growing up at what I call the familiar Dock Hill. Now, at Dock Hill there is the …
Mr. Anthony Richardson Mr. Speaker, again on page 2, we drop [down] a little bit further and the Honourable Cole Simons’ has said “Bermuda must grow her economic pie, and handouts will not help the pr ocess. The cannibalization of the farming, fishing and courier package industries will not help to grow our …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I indicated in my Reply that the One Bermuda Alliance —
The Speaker The Speaker One second. Mr. Richardson, you need to be seated when the Honourable Member is on the floor.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank yo u. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, the Honour able Member is unintentionally misleading the House Bermuda House of Assembly because I said that we in the Opposition support the economic certificates. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Continue.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Mr. Speaker, Thank you. I am not saying he did not say that. I am sim ply telling you what has happened and what the exper ience was in recent times. Mr. Speaker, If we move to page 6, the Opposition Reply says “This government must do all it can …
Mr. Anthony Ric hardson Yes, exactly. And guess what, Mr. Simons, you have now said that you support the National Health Strategy. So Minister Kim Wilson, guess what? Thank you, MP Cole Simons supports what you are doing so we can keep on moving forward, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, now we come down to …
Mr. Anthony Richardson MP Cannonier, I will just say . . . Mr. Speaker, I am sorry, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Speak this way. Speak this way.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it beggars belief that this comment could be in the [Reply] knowing how the hospital actually operates. And what is also unfortunate is what I call an internal inconsist ency because on the one hand it asked that question. And then further down it …
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, it was ferry, Mr. Cannonier. Mr. Speaker, when it comes to the taxis, again, I will say that I agree that there needs to be some changes in the taxi industry. But what I will say is this. The cost of things is actually comparative. What I mean by …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a comment at this time? MP Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am actually not even sure where to start. I want to say that the Honourable Member who sat down that I enjoyed that, actually. I felt that he had a line and length that he stuck to, and some of the stuff that he was …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So I'm looking for some r elief. What we're dealing with right now . . . you go to the grocery store. Every time I go down to the gr ocery store in St. George’s, the Honourable Member from St. George’s. Renee [Ming] knows Kalla . Ever ybody knows Kalla …
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair. Talk to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier We were looking in the wrong area to make cuts. And if we listen to one a nother, then we will see these opportunities. And I will not get frustrated because, you know, I get frustrated Bermuda House of Assembly when these byes don’t listen. So I am trying to …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes. Wow, we are getting all kinds of stuff coming out. Somebody's been churched, right? So, people are looking for the imaginative things and if they read this, and I have had to read this a couple of times, so— [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It doesn't matter how many people are picketing, right? It doesn't matter. We had one lady on the hill there who was on a hunger strike by herself. So it doesn't matter, right? It's what people feel. And it was three or four. I can guarantee you this. It's like …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes, because here we are . . . you laugh. We are here in the OBA . . . that’s all right — [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That's right. Listen, I'm just like you. I know the slight because you're in the OBA . . . nobody . . . I didn’t say you questioned. You will have your turn to speak.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier You know? Well, let’s be real clear. OBA is the UBP. The OBA is the UB P. You know, we've got all the White boys. Guess what? Guess what, Mr. Speaker? I'm going to start saying PLP is the new UBP, because I got two former UBP members who are …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Oh, yeah. So . . . so . . . so, yes. Yes, yes, yes. I'm glad you enjoyed that. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier But this is the reality of where we are today. Premier, you laugh because your reality is coming right now. If I look in the paper today —we are 78 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly talking about today —and the picketing that's going on down …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That’s all right. You don't read the Royal Gazette. Okay, you just answer questions with it, that’s all. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, exactly. That's why you didn’t .
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair. Speak to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Former members! And then you got quotes by the former Finance Minister. The reality is that we are not going to get anywhere as far as improving the plight of Bermudians, period — period! —if we don't work together. If we don't work together . . . it is not …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What are you talking about?
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair, speak to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes, yes. You talk to me and I will educate you.
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier This Honourable Member is talking about What are you talking about ? When we became Government, the hospital had so much money in its coffers, right? And the Finance Mi nister said, No, no, no, hold on a second. You’re not holding onto those millions and millions of dollars were …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I understand that you want to talk about Morgan’s Point. But I tell you what. I'll tell you what. Oh, yes, Yes. Let’s be fair. I'm going to be fair with you. When we met with Gencom . . . okay? When we met with them over the Southampton …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Who is Chris?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Who is Chris? The Premier knows. The Premier knows. The Premier knows.
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair. Keep talking.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Listen, we have got new Members in the House of Assembly who are going to get quickly schooled up.
The Speaker The Speaker Keep talking. Speak to the Chair.
Mr. L. Crai g Cannonier The Premier knows who I am talking about. Exact words! The Opposition Leader was there. Morgan’s Point did not have to be paid up. And I can tell you this here. If we were Government, we would have never had to take it over. Investment would have been found just …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, it's about the licences. They got their licence. They just got the licence. In 2021 the Premier said, quote, there will be a casino in 2021. In 2021. Everything is in the pipeline. Yet, when I walk out of these doors. People are picketing and they are concerned. People …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonie r Yes, people. Yes, people. Somebody needs to be schooled up on that too? Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair. You will be all right. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So, yes, I made it lively. The key is I am on their side. I agree with the stuff that they want to do. I agree with the side.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are on my side.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, my side. You are on my side. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Talk this way.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, my side. You are on my side here. Right? [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier We are all on this small I sland together. We got to make something happen at the end of the day. That's what I'm getting at. You know, I have livened in up a little bit. We got to make something happen. A nd as I said prior, maybe some …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The colour? I don’t worry myself about the colour of a book. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, imitation. That’s it. R emember that when you wear a red tie next time. Where is it . . .? In the face of these trials (in the very beginning here) . . . and it ties into another point that I want to make about tourism. “In the …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No, no, no, no, no. Minister of Education. I said tourism? Educ ation. He went to Elliot? Okay. Okay. And it was an i nteresting exercise that we partook in. The exercise was, we needed to answer what we thought young people’s issues were and what they were facing t …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Share. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannon ier Yes, I only have two minutes to go. I'm going to share. Listen, I've been sharing all this time. You should have come in the beginning. [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Share that one!
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So I am saying it has to be more fair, more equitable. We have been talking wit hin our caucus, within our room, about what needs to happen because the wealthy . . . okay? The wealthy need to pay more. Okay? I am telling you right now, the wealthy …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier We will talk about it. We need to change the tax system. We have a s olution. Listen, we — [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That's right. We have a sol ution.
The Speaker The Speaker Just talk to the Chair. Talk to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I got two minutes and 17 seconds and all of a sudden on this one he wants to hear all of the details. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier You want all the details? You know the details. You know what you need to do, Premier. So do we. You know what you need to do. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You said you have ideas.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Change the tax system. The solutions . . . yes, the solutions —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I’m on the side. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker All right, Members. All right.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker, the solutions are already in a report that lay it out. Okay? We need to change this tax system. And we might be having a good laugh over here. Right? But I am expecting that the Premier, i n his position, understands fully well what I am saying. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Well, that's too bad. That's too bad that you don't understand. I know you under-stand what needs to happen. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Keep talking. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: So on the one hand, get the investment coming into the Island. Change the tax system so that it allows those on the lower tier, and some things have happened, to be able to benefit. We got new laws coming …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Minister of Education. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I was . . . I was very . . . that was a very entertaining speech from that former [Premier]. I see some …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ah! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: They spent the entire time complaining about what the Progressive Labour Party has said. The only person who has even made really good mentioned or stuck to even talking about what was in there was the Opposition Leader because he had to read it. …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, you are drowning out your speaker. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I even go out of my way to put that collaboration out there even though I do not receive anything back. I do not believe there has been one response to any WhatsApp that I have sent to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh my. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I do not believe . . . you know what? I do apologise, Mr. Speaker. I believ e Ms. Susan Jackson responded and said, thank you, once, because she was the one that wanted to know what the Taster Programme looked like. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Mi nister wish to . . . Oppos ition Whip.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Premier for the Throne Speech and every contributor to this Reply and for their guidance and insight.
The Speaker The Speaker Before you get started . . . Deputy. [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Deputy Speaker, in the Chair] [Laughter]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, Mr. Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay, thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I once had to disturb an elderly gentleman in a nap as a young constable. And I was pretty sure he wasn't there, but luckily, he woke up. So I'm very happy that this happened. Mr. Deputy [Speaker].
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I wasn’t asleep.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay, Mr. Deputy Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to contribute. I am not entirely sure that I can make the full 30 minutes. I am still getting used to this whole parliamentary process. But I can tell you I have quite a bit to add to tonight's debate. I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member, do you yield?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the GDP growth in 2021 was 5.4 per cent and was the fastest growth recorded on a real GDP basis since 2007.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Premier.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you. And that is fantastic. That's a great point. 88 18 November 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly So the Honourable Premier was able to say that right off the top of his head. I would otherwise have to go research that. So the point is …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Minister Campbell. You have the floor. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, history has provided us with examples of what one group can do to another group when they do not …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Are there any further speakers? It looks like Mr. Adams. Continue. You have the floor.
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Deputy Speaker, thank you. I will certainly say that it is always tough to follow Mini ster Campbell. In fact, it feels as though for my entire time being active and involved in the Progressive Labour Party in some way, form , or fashion I have followed Minister Campbell, …
Mr. Jache Adams They forget thei r failed attempt at the Pathways to Status. They want us to forget that they doubled the debt. Forget the fact that, after constant protest by the Progressive Labour Party, they signed an airport deal that has cost this country over $40 million and counting! Mr. Deputy …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member More f un?
Mr. Jache Adams There is more fun! I did a bit of research. I want the people of this country to know that this Government could have covered the entire BELCO bill for every single resident in this country for a year and a half, and it would have been cheaper than the …
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Deputy Speaker, despite the doom and gloom the Opposition try to paint, I am proud to stand with a Government that listens to the people and hears their concerns. That is why we r educed pay roll taxes for 75 per cent of the workers in this country. That …
Mr. Jache Adams Oh, here we go. Keep it going. Keep it going, they tell me.
Mr. Jache Adams I could go on, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You do not have to. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Jache Adams As I close today, I just want to say today that this Throne Speech [2022] serves as a humble reminder that as much as we have accomplished, there is still much to be done. There is a standard we are expected to uphold, and we will continue to work and …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Adams. We have the Deputy Leader, Minister Roban. You have the floor. You do not have to take so long. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I appreciate your direction. [Laughter] Hon. Walter H. Roban: You know, one of the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Oh, yes, please. Thank you. [Laughter] Hon. Walter H. Roban: But one thing that is pleasurable about being in the House now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that I do not have to get up too often. And that is because the bench is so deep, the strength of the team …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Deputy Leader, Walter Roban. The next speaker I understand is the Premier of Bermuda and Finance Minister, the Honourable David Burt. You have the floor, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, it has been a good d ebate …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Thank you, Members, for the contributions you have made today during this debate, the Reply to the Throne Speech. That brings us to the close of the day, Premier. There are no third readings today, Premier, but we do . . . Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker. …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? There are none. ADJOURNMENT
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to . . .
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Bu rch I know I was missed this morning. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Well, I was about to say that you are making sure that you did not get missed this time. You were on your feet before we got to that point, so, Mi nister of Works, you have your 20 minutes. PLP PARTY LEADERSHIP RACE— INTERFERENCE BY “COMBINED OPPOSITION”
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I would like to talk about a subject that has bothered me for the last several weeks, and that is the events that took place leading up to the elec tion of a PLP Leader and Deputy Leader. And I would like to start by thanking the “combined …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —for their support in ensuring the re- election of the Honourable David Burt as party leader and the Honoura ble Walter Roban as deputy leader. Mr. Speaker, by “combined Opposition” I mean and I refer to the OBA, of course, who cannot help themselves in situations like this, the daily …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, I do. And then all— [Inaudible interjection]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I’m not using that. I am going to make a point. Khalid Wasi was on a whole campaign. And the collection of people that write ed itorials for the daily were on their own campaign too. I do not know how t hat bye who is the editor could rea …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, the head lines were just outrageous. And what is most astounding about them is that the writer of the articles is the most recent arrival from the United Kingdom that they can hire. They can only find gutter reporters to bring here and write garbage in the media. …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, nobody in this country is that stupid. Nobody! You are going to pledge . . . I . . . I . . . I am at a loss that anybody would even read that and think it is so. And even if they did suggest it, the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And this Premier, probably more so than any of the others, has been just unrelenti ng— [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I know. I am trying to be polite. —unrelenting in his interrogation of his Mini sters about where we are at in terms of the platform that we promised. I call it a “book of promises” on the doorstep in my district. And then when people say we aren't doing …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —that I had to resign. And I resigned. And I went quietly into the night. I did not go anti -PLP. I had a dispute, and my assessment of that dispute was that I had to remove myself from that circumstance, and I did so. But I still voted PLP. …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes! Well, I did not speak on your Reply, but I underlined one item in the book and I will show it to you. And at some point I will speak about it because I can't tonight, Mr. Speaker. Now let me address the accusation of the Premier being a …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch So with that . . . and everybody is generally well known. I cannot even begin to process . . . well , I discount myself completely because there is no way that I am going to have any . . . Can I tell them? Hon. E. David Burt: …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay, so I had two requirements, two prerequisites in order to accept a ministerial po st in this Government.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No micromanagement.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes. And the Premier said, What ’s that? And I said, You're sending me to P ublic Works. You cannot send anybody to tell me how to do my job. You asked me to do somet hing. I am going to do it. And you leave me to it. And …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Number of constituencies.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch That's right. Single seat constituencies. That is the only thing we have changed. Everything else . . . John Swan says he needs to . . . He did the same thing under the same rules. And it is just irritating that when the PLP is in Government all of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Correct.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Of course, it is correct. And t he other thing they would refuse to do is this consolidating power, because he is the Premier and Minister of Finance. What are you talk ing about? The last Premier was the Premier and the Minister of National Security. This is something that …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes. And the fact of the matter is that Premiers of the country have it . . . This is what it says. You serve in Cabinet and in Senate and wherever else at the pleasure of the Premier. You know what that means? That means he could wake up …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous. PATH TO SOVEREIGNTY
Mr. Christopher Famous It is pretty hard to follow up on that, but let’s just say the PLP is living rent free in some people's minds because every day they are tal king about us. Mr. Speaker, I just want to take five minutes. I want to thank Dr. Peets for his service …
Mr. Christopher Famous I want to welcome Senator Leslie Robinson, nee Clark e, a Berkeleyite . [Desk thumping] [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher Famous Let’s not go there. Let’s not go there.
The Speaker The Speaker Green House.
Mr. Christopher Famous I want to thank the Attorney General and her PS and her staff for the work that they have been doing on self -determination. I cannot say the “I” word, but self -determination. Mr. Speaker, some people do not really know history. They have this concept that countries that went …
Mr. Christopher Famous Sovereignty! Yes, sovereignty.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The “S” word.
Mr. Christopher Famous The “S” word! Mr. Speaker, let’s talk about England for a m inute. There used to be this show called Fawlty To wers. Anybody remember that show? John Cleese. Everything was always breaking down . But that is English politics. For years and years they sat there and let Boris …
Mr. Christopher Famous That is an omen. That is an omen. So what happened? Liz Truss had the first Black chancellor of the United Kingdom. Those Oxford guys couldn't take that. She threw him under the bus. A couple of days later, they threw her under the bus. And now we have Rishi …
The Speaker The Speaker Any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member? MP Caines, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. “ANOTHER DAY IN THE LIFE ON TOM ISLAND” — OFFENSIVE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY MR. ROLFE COMMISSIONG
Mr. Way ne Caines Mr. Speaker, I have seen a det erioration in journalism in Bermuda. It has concerned me over the last few weeks. The unfair, the improper, the jaded, the slanted nature of reporting that we have seen in our country. Most recently, I saw, Mr. Speaker, an article, an opinion that …
Mr. Wayne Caines Today we hosted the Tourism Summit. Mr. Speaker, there were over 250 people in the auditorium, and they came, and they went throughout the day. The Tourism Authority highlighted what they will do with the tourism plan. Mr. Speaker, they highlighted the new tourism campaign “Lost Yet Found.” They put …
Mr. Wayne Caines And when I saw the “Lost Yet Found” campaign . . . oh, Mr. Speaker, I was excited. I saw us jumping off of t he rocks. I saw us doing the things that we naturally do. Not two horses walking on a beach. And that was important and had …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear! [Desk thumping]
Mr. Wayne Caines That we support her and that she has our support. Why? B ecause as a country we are at a crossroads, Mr. Speaker. We have no other choice but to succeed, and they have done their sums. They have done their sums, long division. And today I was honoured to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Simmons -Wade, are you looking for your 20 minutes?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, I am. Not quite 20.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 20 minutes. BERMUDA’S SENIORS —OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC GUARDIAN
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you very much. I could not let tonight pass without speaking about a part of our population which is going to be 33 per cent by 2039. That is our seniors. So what I am going to do tonight is I am going to summarise what this Government is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? MP Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 20 minutes. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not going to take that long.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. BUTTERFIELD BERMUDA CHAMPIONSHIP — NASTY SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I just want to say on the motion to adjourn this evening that there have been some very excellent presentations by my colleagues. I just want to single out the Colonel, Minister of Works, and also MP Caines, especially with presentations that somewhat touched on where I wanted to go …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan That happened to Jack Sharp.
The Speaker The Speaker You time is up, Member.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I was just getting rolling. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you actually said you weren’t g oing to use all your time.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I know but — [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, being that you moved us m otion to adjourn, you know we now close when you get on your feet. So there will be no other speaker after Minister Furbert. Minister Furbert, you have your 20 minutes. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HOMELESSNESS IN BERMUDA Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that will bring us to a close of t oday’s debate. I just want to thank everybody for your participation today. We now adjourn until December 2, [2022] at 10:00 am. Members, remain safe and healthy. We look forward to seeing you back on that particular …
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