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Senate Session 2021/2022 65 speeches

October 12, 2022

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Session Summary

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The Senate elected Senator Kiernan Bell as the new Vice President, replacing Michelle Simmons who served for five years. The government announced a major housing initiative to renovate 77 new affordable rental units and upgrade 60 existing ones, costing $21.6 million over three and a half years. Ministers provided updates on the new Signature Schools program that launched in September with 289 students choosing specialized tracks like finance, health care, engineering, and trades. The Health Ministry outlined progress on universal health coverage, including merging government insurance funds and creating stakeholder working groups.

Chamber Senate
Date Oct 12, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 10
Speeches 65

Key Topics

Election of new Senate Vice President (Kiernan Bell)Bermuda Housing Corporation's $21.6 million affordable housing renovation programLaunch of new Signature Learning Programs at Berkeley Institute and CedarBridge AcademyUniversal Health Coverage progress update and next stepsCOVID-19 emergency extension order

Bills & Motions

Seven bills received first reading from the House of Assembly: Payroll Tax Amendment and Validation (No. 2) Act 2022, Stamp Duties Amendment Act 2022, Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 3) Act 2022, Fuels Act 2022, Garages Licensing Act 2022, Parish Councils Amendment Act 2022, and West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2022
Public Health (COVID-19) Emergency Extension (No. 1) Order 2022 - notice of motion given for future consideration

Notable Moments

Emotional scenes described as new S1 students entered the transformed Berkeley Institute and CedarBridge Academy with specialized learning programs for the first time
Discussion of "superusers" of the hospital emergency department - 50 patients making 778 visits per year, highlighting the need for better primary care access
Questions raised about where current tenants will live during the 60-unit renovation project, with the minister acknowledging they're working on temporary accommodations

Debate Transcript

65 speeches from 10 speakers
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes. Good morning, Madam President. I would like to nominate our new Senator, Kiernan Bell. The President: Is there a seconder for this? Sen. Lindsay Simmons: I second that, Madam President. The President: Thank you. Are there any other nominations for the pos ition? Senator Smith? [No audible response] The …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I definitely applaud this initiative, and I would actually like to contrast [it to] the initiative we heard about last week, which was also referred to in the Statement, with freezing the price at the pump. We know that the price controls that the Government did …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto I would like to understand how long those renovations might take. The President: That is your second question.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Oh, yes. The President: Yes. Carry on. QUESTION 3: BERMUDA HOUSING CORPORATION RESIDENTIAL RENTAL UNIT RENOVATION PROGRAMME
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto And then my last question would be with respect to building affordable housing. We know that the Government, this PLP Gover nment, has done that in the past with the Grand Atla ntic, for example, which did not result in affordable housing that was taken up by anybody. And I …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I believe I have an outstanding question with respect to the — The President: This is your third question?
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Yes. The President: Would you repeat it?
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Yes. It was with respect to the building programme, to build affordable units for sale, if I said that correctly. And my question is, Given that the Government has done these initiativ es in the past and nobody has bought them at the prices that they were able to be …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I think we can all agree this is a vital and urgent problem for the Island, and in fact it is a similar problem around the world. I was reading about it with respect to the United States in the New York Times yesterday. So we …
Madam President. The President Thank you, Senator De Couto. You had two questions. We will wait on Senator Arianna Hodgson t o set a response. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Madam President, I am still awaiting the details from the support team. However, I hear one question from Senator De Couto as opposed to two, so …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto May I have a suppl ementary? The President: You have a supplementary question? Yes, you may. SUPPLEMENTARY
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Based on the Junior Minister’s response, should we understand that things are progress ing, still progressing and on track accor ding to the timeline published last year? Thank you, Madam President. The President: Thank you. [Pause] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Madam President. The President: Yes, Senator Hodgson. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: The …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I think this Bill is welcome. I understand when people have to fill out these payroll tax returns that it can be quite a lot of head- scratching and quite a lot of discussion as to the treatment of various items. And I am glad to …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. It was sections 2(b) and 3(d), so I think they are related to the health insurance and social insurance payments is my understanding. But I want to understand why there may be a delay there. It may be a technicality, but I just would appreciate understanding …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you. That was enlightening. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Regarding the general questions also asked by Senator Smith and Senator De Couto, the answer is that we will continue, again, to protect the workers. So we have had the convers a-tion, and I am sure the efforts are ongoing to best …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. In general, we do support and welcome this Bill. We fully support anything that will encourage homeownership, which is noted as one road to buil ding wealth, especially intergenerational wealth, and providing housing sec urity. So, I am very glad to see this and to note …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I do not think my questions were answered, my questions regarding timelines and resourcing to enable this to become effective for the Bermudian public. [Pause] The President: Senator Hodgson, are you able to obtain that answer now, or do you want more time and you can …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. That was quite a wide- ranging brief. And I hope, Madam President, you will permit me the lat itude to address the many numerous topics which were covered by the Junior Minister’s brief with r espect to this legislation. But I am sure you will let …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto —and finally we are pleased to see— The President: Senator De Couto, do you accept a point of information? 684 12 October 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto: No, I will not, Madam President. The President: Carry on.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto So it is nice to finally see the PLP Government agree with the OBA instead of trying to explain to the Bermudian public why the price increases that they have felt everywhere are not actually happening. So I thank you for that. I am in agreement with you on that. …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets —and the length of our Orders for today, I just wonder if I can make the motion for lunch. The President: Certainly. There is a motion for lunch, Senators. Therefore, I must ask the question of Senator Hodgson on whether or not she wants to pass this Bill before we …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. Along with my colleague, the direction of this Bill and the sentiment, I am certainly in agreement with. I must admit that I am puzzled procedurally. I feel like we have seen some questions . . . I do not know what it means for the …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President. Madam President, I move that the prov isions of Standing Order 25 be granted so that the Senate may now proceed with the second reading of the Bill entitled Garages Licensin g Act 2022. The President: Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. [Motion …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Madam Pr esident, I move that the Bill entitled Garages Licensing Act 2022 be now read a second time. The President: Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. BILL SECOND READING GARAGES LICENSING ACT 2022
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Madam President, section 98 of the Motor Car Act 1951 (The Act) grants the Minister general supervision of public garages in respect of their efficiency of operation. This includes the repairing and servicing of motor cars and the keeping or storage of motor cars. Additionally, section 99 of the Act …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank y ou, Madam President. And thank you for the presentation of this Bill. So, in my canvasing, I have met people who have complained about people painting vehicles and working late at night, and we all know someone who has had a tough run- in with a mechanic. So …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam President and colleagues. In response to Senator De Couto’s question, the fees are aligned with other similar operations. The fees that have been established are aligned with other similar operations. I want to say that certainly a lot of consultation and a lot of consideration has gone …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Yes. Madam President, I move that Standing Order 26 be suspended in respect of this Bill. The President: Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. [Motion carried: Standing Order 26 suspended.]
Sen. Rev. Dr. Em ilygail A. Dill Madam President, I move that the Bill entitled Garages Licensing Act 2022 be now read a second time. The President: Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. BILL THIRD READING GARAGES LICENSING ACT 2022
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emil ygail A. Dill Madam President, I move that the Bill entitled Garages Licensing Act 2022 be now read a third time. The President: Is there any objection to the third reading? No objection.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Madam President, I move that the Bill now be passed. The President: It has been moved that the Bill ent itled the Garages Licensing Act 2022 do now pass. Is there any objection to that? No objection. The Bill is passed. [Motion carried: The Garages Licensing Act 2022 was read …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam President. I move that the Bill entitled Parish Councils Amendment Act 2022 now be read a second time. The President: Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. BILL SECOND READING PARISH COUNCILS AMENDMENT ACT 2022
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam President. The purpose of the [ Parish Councils Amendment Act 2022 ,] is to correct some deficiencies that have been identified with the Parish Councils Act 1971 and which w ill present a legal [or] financial risk for the Government. This Act has remained largely unamended in …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Sure. Thank you, Madam President. I certainly appreciate some of the feedback that we have received from our Senate colleagues, and I will see if I can take them in the order in which they were received. The first was from colleague, Senator Ben Smith. It was a financial question. …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes. Sure. Thank you, Madam President. Thank you, Senators, for your supplementaries. It is not the policy intent , nor is it the opinion, nor our understanding of how this Bill is read or un-derstood that the Minister will be able to initiate the devolution of a Parish Council as …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam President, I move that [Standing Order] 26 be suspended in r espect to this Bill. The President: Is there any objection to that motion? 700 12 October 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate No objection. [Motion carried: Standing Order 26 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING PARISH COUNCILS AMENDMENT ACT 2022 …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam President, I move that the Bill do now pass. The President: It has been moved that the Bill ent itled the Parish Councils Amendment Act 2022 do now pass. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. The Bill is passed. [Motion carried: Parish Councils Am endment Act …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. You know, I work in an organisation where we have deadlines and audits, and I am highl y symp athetic to organisations that have complex tasks to achieve within a certain timeline that is handed down to them from above. But typically, my experience (and I …
Madam President. The President Thank you, Senator De Couto. Would any other Senator care to speak on this Bill? I see Senator John Wight first of all. Senator Wight, you have the floor. Sen. John W ight: Thank you, Madam President. I think at a time when most of the world is generally raising …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of order. Sen. Owen Darrell: —with the work that they need to do,—
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of order. Sen. Owen Darrell: — Madam President. And in these times — The President: Sorry. Senator De Couto, what is y our point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives]
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto He is imputing improper motives, Madam President. Thank you. The President: Senator Darrell, carry on. Sen. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Madam President. So, in tod ay’s environment, when it comes to auditing and dealing with financials, it is a lot more complex. And to be blunt, Madam President, if we …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Madam President, I want to take this opportunity to thank the very hardworking Chairwoman of the Progressive Labour Party, Ms. Dawn Simmons and wish her a very, very happy 60th birthday today. The Pr esident: All right. Would any other Senator care to speak? Senator De Couto, you have the …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto That is a different di scussion. But we enjoyed the Gombeys. I would like to congratulate the Bermudian team at the [Global] Robotics Olympics in Geneva. That is right up my alley. I will leave it at that. I wish them success and a fabulous learning experience. I would like …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes. Thank you, Madam President. And certainly, happy bir thday to Senator Tucker. We are so grateful that you spent your birt hday with us today. And hopefully our presence has been somewhat of a gift. Having said all of that, Madam President, in all honesty, thank you everyone for …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets I motion that Senate adjourn until November 23 rd. The President: November 23rd. I will make a note of that. Would any Senator care to speak on the m otion to adjourn? Senator John Wight, you have the floor. HUMAN RIGHTS ANNUAL REPORT —FINANCIAL STATEMENTS NOT INCLUDED Sen. John Wight: …
Sen. Dr. Douglas D e Couto Thank you, Madam President. I want to start on one topic and then I am going to change topics. I listened carefully to Senator Lindsay Simmons, and I was dismayed and upset to hear about her personal experiences that she related. I mean, we know these things happen to people …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto I want to go on a different tack now. There are people in Bermuda who want to draw lines. They want to say who is on each side of the line. You have to be with us; you have to be against us. They want to be gatekeepers as to …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto But let me go back to the gatekeeping thing. When I was in the Regiment during recruit camp, I did recruit camp at . . . I started it at age 29. So you might imagine that it was a slightly different experience. And it can get a little tense. …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Point of order. Point of information. The President: Excuse me.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Just a point of clarif ication, Madam President. The President: Do you accept the point — Sen. Ben Smith: I am not accepting it. The President: He is not accepting your point of clar ification.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Okay. Sen. Ben Smith: A housing allowance—
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill There is no allo wance. The President: Senator Smith, carry on. Sen. Ben Smith: Madam President, questions were asked specifically about the benefits that were given to the overseas Fire Service and compared with the local Fire Service. And last week during that debate there was a comment that was …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill It is misleading. The President: Senator Dill, if you have a . . . you do not shout out in the Senate.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill I’m sorry. Bermuda Senate The President: So I would ask you to be mindful of the standards that need to be kept here.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Sorry, Madam Pres ident. Point of order. He is misleading the public. The President: Senator Ben Smith, carry on. Sen. Ben Smith: Thank you, Madam President. So the $4,500 housing allowance that was discussed last week in this Chamber that was in answer to the questions that were asked, today …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Point of order. The President: What is your point of order, Senator Dill? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill The Member conti nues to misl ead this [Senate] and the public. There is no housing allowance. The President: Carry on, Senator Ben Smith. Sen. Ben Smith: Thank you, Madam President. So that same local firefighter is having to pay the food bills that we have had to discuss reducing …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Point of order. The Member c ontinues to mislead this [Senate] and the public by stating that the firefighters are receiving a housing allowance. They do not receive a housing allowance. They are housed at the cost of Government on an interim period. They are here on a short -term …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill —[INAUDIBLE] this was the best they were able to do in such a short p eriod of time. The President: She will not be t aking away your time.
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill And I would ask that the [Senator] stop misleading the public by stating that these individuals are receiving amounts of. . . recei ving any type of additional compensation. They are not. He has sat here and said that they can take their $4,500 and they can pay $1,200, et …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes, a late good afternoon to you, Madam President. The President: Mm-hmm. And you.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets I apologise. This is not much of a birthday gift for Senat or Robin Tucker. [Laughter]
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets So perhaps we could consider that during our adjournment over the next couple of weeks. Do something special for her. The President: You are making promises now. QUALITIES OF GOOD LEADERSHIP
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets But in two minutes or less, there was something that Senator Simmons sort of was speaking about that just sort of jogged my memory and sort of touched my heart a little bit. We all know that we are living in some very difficult times. There is a war going …
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