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House of Assembly Session 2021/2022 494 speeches

September 30, 2022

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Session Summary

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This was the first House sitting after summer recess, beginning with a moment of silence for former MP Colin Pearman who passed away. The Premier reported on successful meetings with EU officials that should help maintain Bermuda's important financial services relationships. The government announced better-than-expected finances for last year, with the deficit $44 million lower than budgeted due to stronger tourism and business revenues. A major new bill was introduced to move fuel industry regulation from government departments to the independent Regulatory Authority.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Sep 30, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 26
Speeches 494

Key Topics

Premier's trip to Prague and Brussels to meet with European Union officials about Bermuda's financial services sectorGovernment's improved financial performance with 2021/22 deficit coming in $44 million lower than expectedNew Fuels Bill 2022 to transfer fuel regulation from government to the Regulatory Authority$150 relief payments for parents of public school students and processing updatesEmergency repairs needed at Tynes Bay Waste-to-Energy Facility requiring additional $22 million

Bills & Motions

Fuels Bill 2022 - Tabled (first reading), would transfer regulation of fuel imports and sales to the Regulatory Authority
Various government orders and reports were submitted for House information, including investment business regulations and hospital board reports

Notable Moments

Premier emphasized that improved government finances must translate into relief for struggling families, not just better accounting
Minister of Works warned that Tynes Bay facility faces "very real" risk of catastrophic failure, which could force a return to landfilling garbage
Education Minister apologized to parents experiencing delays in receiving $150 school relief payments due to various processing issues

Debate Transcript

494 speeches from 26 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. Ms. Beale will lead us in prayer this morning. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. [Gavel] MOMENT OF SILENCE [In memory of Mr. Colin Pearman, former MP]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, it is tradition that we reco gnise former Members of this House when they have passed. And while we were all recessed from these Chambers, a former Member, the Honourable Member Colin Pearman, passed away. So we want to take a moment of silence in honour of the late …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. You can be seated. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 1 5 July 2022 ]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes of July 15 to be confirmed. Members, have you received your Minutes? Any amendments or adjustments? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 15 July 2022 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING NEW ADMINISTRATI VE ASSISTANT IN THE LEGISLATURE OFFICE
The Speaker The Speaker First let me announce, you may have noticed in the Speaker’s Gallery here to my left a new face, a new staff member . We would like to acknowledge Ms. Andrina Smith, who will be a part of our staff who as sist the Members as we conduct our business …
The Speaker The Speaker I would also like to acknowledge that I have received . . . as is customary when Members are absent, they send notice that they will be absent. I have received notice f rom the following Members: Minister Wilson, A ttorney General Simmons, MP Kim Swan, MP Jamahl Simmons, MP …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATION S TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are six of those. Premier, I think the first is in your name. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning to you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. E. David Burt: It is a pleasure to be back in this Chamber.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, it is. INVESTMENT BUSINESS (CLASS B REGISTERED PERSONS) ORDER 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Investment Business (Class B Regi stered Persons) Order 2022 , made by the Minister of Finance in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. INVESTMENT BUSINESS (CLIENT MONEY) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Hon-ourable House of Assembly the Investment Business (Client Money) Amendment Regulations 2022, made by the Minister of Finance pursuant to section 14 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I note that the next two are in the name of the Minister of Health, who has indicated she will not be present today. Is any Member . . . Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning, Members of the House and the listening public. I will do the submissions on behalf of the Mi nister of Health.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD ANNUAL REPORT 2016/17 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I have the ho nour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Hosp itals Board Annual Report 2016/17.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Walter H. Roban: May I go on to the next one, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you may. PUBLIC HEALTH (COVID- 19) EMERGENCY EXTENSION (NO. 1) ORDER 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I have the ho nour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Public Health (COVID -19) Emergency Extension (No. 1) Order 2022, proposed to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister Furbert, I believe you are introducing for the Minister of Sport. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHO RITY ANNUAL REPORT 2022 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Sport Anti - Doping Authority Annual Report 2022.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS The Sp eaker: There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker This morning we have 10 Statements. The first Statement this morning is in the name of the Premier. Premier, would you like to present your Statement? MINISTERIAL STATEMEN T ON PRAGUE AND BRUSSELS TRIP Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker , Bermuda’s economy continues to be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. I believe the second Statement is also yours. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. UPDATE ON GOVERNMENT’S FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I rise today t o provide this Honourable House and the people of Berm uda with an update on the work being carried out by the Ministry of Finance. In the first instance I would like to advise …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier. TABLING OF THE FUELS BILL 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you and good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am tabling today the Bill ent itled the Fuels Bill 2022 . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. The next Statement this morning is in t he name of the Minister of Health. Are we carrying that [over], or someone is going to read it this morning for her? Hon. Walter H. Roban: We will carry it over, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We will carry it over. Okay. Thank you. The next Statement then would be in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Before you start, Minister. Members, let me just remind you that if you would like to ask questions , I need to be notified. I have not had anyone notify me yet that they have questions. Just as a reminder. Thank you. Continue, Minister. 1724 30 September 2022 Official Hansard …
The Speaker The Speaker I know we have been away from thi s Chamber, so I have to refresh memories on proces ses. So that was simply to remind us on the protocol of how the Speaker gets notified. I know everyone has been used to using their virtual space to do it. But …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. TYNES BAY WASTE- TO-ENERGY FACILITY STABILISATION PROGRAMME
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to provide a further update on the Tynes Bay Waste -to-Energy Facility . Honourable Members may recall in February of this year, the then Acting Minister of Public Works advised this House on the $150 mi llion Capital Programme for the refurbishment of the Waste-to-Energy …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Social Development and Se niors. Minister Furbert. EXPRESSION OF INTEREST FOR GENDER AFFAIRS COUNCIL Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to inform this Ho nourable House and the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. I believe the next Statement is also in your name. Hon. Tinee Furb ert: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. 1728 30 September 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly NURTURING OUR NATION: IMPERFECT PARENTING SERIES Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to i nform this Honourable House and the general public about an exciting initiative, Nurturing Our Nation: I mperfect Parenting Series , that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister, would you like to put your Stat ement? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. AIRPORT FIRE RESCUE SERVICES Hon. Micha el A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to provide an update on the Bermuda Fire Rescue Service Airport Operations Division. Mr. Speaker, you will recall that I made a statement to this Honourable House on the 1 st of July of …
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on one second, Minister. Just to remind you we are back in Chambers. You have got to come around. You are crossing the line. Thank you. Continue, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, at that time I advised that the Bermuda Fire Rescue Service operates the Airport Rescue …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement, t he final Statement this morning, is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. INITIATIVES TO PROMOTE AND SUPPORT YOUT H EMPLOYMENT Hon. Jason Hayward: I am elated to rise today to present to this Honourable House on the initiatives the Government has undertaken to promote and support our youth. Mr. Speaker, a strong economy hinges upon people having the skills they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. This, Members, brings us to the end of the Statements for this morning. And we thank you for your contributions. We now move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are written questions, which will be carried for the moment. Then we will go to the questions on Statements this morning. Ministers, the Statements this morning have not many questions, but we do have some questions. We will start this morning, Premier, we have questions for you on your …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No.
The Speaker The Speaker No. Further questions? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, on the same one.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. QUESTION 2: MINISTERIAL STATEMENT ON PRAGUE AND BRUSSELS TRIP Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: On page 2 the Premier i ndicated that he spoke to Elina Bardram, the Director for International Affairs and Climate [Finance]. What jumped to mind for me, Mr. Speaker, is this question: Did the Premier …
The Speaker The Speaker The question is, Will he seek to have the EU members support and sign the document? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Just wanted to wrap it up in a succinct question. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have been informed by the Honourable Deputy Premier that those discussions were held with various EU member states at the glob-al Climate Change Conference, COP26, that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No.
The Speaker The Speaker Additional question? No. Thank you. Premier, you also have questions on your second Statement. And those questions again are from the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON GOVERNMENT’S FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you very much. I will …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That was pretty straightforward, one single question. Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do believe that the answer to the Honourable Opposition Leader’s question is mentioned inside the Statement, which noted that Berm uda’s gross debt has decreased due to our refinancing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or a new question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Finance indicated that the revenue projected to be $1.27 [billion] was basically $74 million above the original estimates. He said it w as primarily due to customs, stamp duty, civil aviation, payroll tax and increased …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am happy t o do so for the Honourable Member. The variance from original estimates to the revised estimates and final estimates for customs duty was $23,901,373. The variance on stamp duty was $13,052,640. The variance on payroll tax was $8.8 million, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. Along the same line, [the Premier] also ind icated that there was a $5 million increased projection on the interest and in guaranteed management costs. Can he break down the details of the increased costs attributed to the increased cost of …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. During the 2021/22 budget year there was no increased interest rate costs that were there. Our interest rates were fixed, and there was no variance during that year, to the best of my knowledge. And I think that that was covered …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? You used two supplementaries. You can do a new question. (Turn your microphone on.) QUESTION 2: UPDATE ON GOVERNMENT’S FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: My second question is this: The Statement says “interest/guarantee.” And it also goes on to say that most of this increase is related …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Statement is correct. Not all of it was attributable to Morgan’s Point. Those are t he breakdowns. The Government manag1734 30 September 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly es various guarantees. I am happy to give the Honourable Member a …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplementary. I am moving on to the—
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary on the same question or a new question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: New question.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Third question, your third question. QUESTION 3: UPDATE O N GOVERNMENT’S FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. In regard to the debt refinancing, can the Mi nister provide details on who the runners or the brokers who managed the refinancing in capital markets were? And how …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the best of my recollection, the joint book runners for the debt raise were HSBC and Goldman Sachs, I do bel ieve. And I do not have the information in front of me in regard to the cost, but I …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? No further questions. Thank you for your contribution on that Statement.
The Speaker The Speaker The next Statement that Members have indicated that t hey have questions is for the Deputy Premier, your Statement on the fuel deal. MP Cannonier, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: TABLING OF THE FUELS BILL 2022
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues. On page 5—unfortunately my tablet is not working well. On page 5 going through to page 6, the Honourable Deputy Premier mentions, “service to the people of Bermuda is the single greatest purpose of this Bill.” Later on in that paragraph, …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I declare my interest. Yes. The previous paragraph states that there will be fulsome discussion. But it does not identify with the Regulatory Authority that the governm ent and duty are going to be included in that. I am assuming that, as it mentions here, a fulsome look at …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. But that discussion on duty will be had with the Ministry of F inance.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary or a new question?
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Supplemental to that.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Considering that to be the case, is it an ongoing discussion at present then that we should be reducing the duty on fuel? And to be transparent about it, we know that in the pricing of fuel, especially fossil fuel, the greatest part of that and Bermuda House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me just remind the House that it was the former Government that substantially increased the duty on fuel.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I asked a very clear question that has nothing to do with the past. It has to do with the present.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are running from your record. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am not running from the record. I said transparent . We know that Gover nment —whichever Government has been . . . the greatest gain has been by Government. So if he can be specific.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. No problem.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier He does not need to politic. It is a simple question.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Can you respond? Hon. Walter H. Roban : I would hope, Mr. Speaker, as long as I am stating facts, I am within the rules of an-swering the question. The former Government doubled the duty on fuel.
The Speaker The Speaker You can state the facts and then a nswer the question. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Right. B ut I am answering the question. It is related to the duty on fuel, Mr. Speaker. And this Government is moving forward to review the duty and to perhaps be able to bring …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, the next Statement that has questions this morning is the Statement by the Minister of National Security. Minister, you have a question from MP Dunkley. MP Dunkley, would you like to put your question now? QUESTION 1: AIRPORT FIRE RESCUE SERVICES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I understood the question right, I would think that the conversation started right after the audit was complete as to an increase of the duty minimum strength.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker. My supplementary question is, So prior to that audit there was no indication by Skyport or any other body connected with the airport that there would be the potential need to increase the minimum strength?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you again, Mr. Speaker. I am not sure what the conversations were about. But you know how audits go. The auditor was hired, and they came in and did a review of the airport and the airport operations. And this is what they came …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. He was pretty precise on that, Minister. Had the conversation taken place prior, or any knowledge prior? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Not to my knowledge. I do not know one way or the other.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: On the next page, the top of page 3, the Honourable Minister says that “the Bermuda Airport Authority retained a UK Civil Aviation Authority Rescue Fire Fighting expert to review the recommended requirements . . . and his report is being used for further …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The answer, the simple answer, is yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva : Supplementary, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your supplementary, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Minister, when you were negotiating the construction of the new airport, what was the outline of the Fire Service and whether or not we were going to have the number of qualified people that we should …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for that question, MP. From my understanding, when the negoti ations were going on in reference to the building of the airport, the Fire Service was overlooked as to their minimum duty strength.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary, anyone? No supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I have a supplementary. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am just curious. What negotiations was MP De Silva from constituency 29 talking about? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You can’t ask me a question. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker The question — [Laughter]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Well, then I can direct it to the Minister; it does not matter.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Direct all questions to a Minister or a Member of Cabinet rather than a backbencher.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So I would like to ask the Minister, Mr. Speaker.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson If he might be able to give us some information around what negotiations they are talking about.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, unfortunately, I cannot answer for someone else. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Hold up, hold up. I think that you did answer the first question that was put by Member De Silva, which means you exposed yourself to now have to answer the second question. Had you said that reply that you are giving now, had you given that reply to Member …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if he could please let us know what negotiations they are referring to.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. Ho n. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would be negotiations to building the new airport under a former Government. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. [ Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Minister Weeks, can you tell us who was the Minister at the time?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Ho n. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, if memory serves me right, I cannot tell you who the Minister was. I co uld tell you that Minister was under the OBA Government.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? No supplementaries. Any additional questions? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Now that the mischief has ended, let me get back to bus iness here. [ Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker This is your second question, so we will get there. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Member on the other side had some good breakfast this mor ning. He is full of himself, but the lunch will probably calm him down. The Sp eaker: Well, we can just stick to …
The Speaker The Speaker No pr oblem. [ Laughter] QUESTION 2: AIRPORT FIRE RESCUE SERVICES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, my second question is, the Honourable Minister at the bottom of page 3 says, “the cost of this surge in 35 firefighters through to the end of March is anticipated to be ap-proximately …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. W eeks: Mr. S peaker, as I had int imated on, I t hink i t is page 4 (I a m not s ure which one it is), w e are still i n the process of looki ng at options. And onc e we …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker. Will the Bermuda Fire [and] Rescue Service and the Ministry of National Security require a supplementary estimate to cover this funding?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Ho n. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker, it was a situation that was not anticipated. So yes, we would probably need a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker, supplementary, my last supplementary on this question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Minister in referring to the benefit package says that the package for the overseas firefighters includes “return flights, housing 1738 30 September 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly and a base monthly fee paid in arrears.” Could the Honourable Minister please state …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker, that is a part of the package.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. You used your supplementaries. This should be your third question. QUESTION 3: AIRPORT FIRE RESCUE SERVICES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Third question. Third ques tion, and there is time in this, Mr. Speaker. Third question, Mr. Speaker: The Minister goes on to say that in the benefit package for …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: No.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary to the question, Mr. Speaker, in terms of manpower.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Minister said that there were 11 local persons being hired from November to train. And it is anticipated that their trai ning will be completed by March 2023. Does the Honourable Minister have any plans for another recrui tment drive to hire …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: My last supplementary, Mr. Speaker, yes. At the current time, Mr. Speaker, can the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House how far below manpower levels the Bermuda Fire [and] Rescue Service is at this time?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I think I answered that earl ier, Mr. Speaker. Right now the exact number that we are under -manned has not been determined. But once that exact number is determined, I will bring it to this Honourable House.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. That brings to a close that questioning because you used all three of your questions. And act ually it brings us to a close of the Members who had indicated that they had questions for Statements t oday. Thank you, Members for your —
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, I had rais ed a question.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, yes, I forgot. I had forgotten you had come up. We were discussing something else at the time and I did not put it down. Yes. QUESTION 1: INITIATIVES TO PROMOTE AND SUPPORT YOUTH EMPLOYMENT
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, honour able colleagues and to the listening public. My question relates to the Minister’s Stat ement wherein on page 3, the final paragraph, the Honourable Minister said, “The Department of Wor kforce Development is engaging with private sector employers to …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Apprenticeships are generally given on the supply and demand. So potential appre ntices will state their area of interest. And in order to find those individuals placements, most ti mes we have to do engagement with employers to determine whether or not they have the capacity …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Supplementary, thank you,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jarion Richardson: How many apprenticeships or new apprenticeships have been brought about due to this expansion of this new project? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I do not have the complete number, and I will endeavour to get that back to the Minister. But I will speak of one success story.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Jason Hayward: We did have a number of apprenticeships within BELCO. And when BELCO i ncreased to a record number of apprentices, the D epartment of Workforce Development took on signif icant commitments. So 13 of those individuals r eceived partial funding from the Department of Wor …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. S peaker. Second question?
The Speaker The Speaker Second question, okay. QUESTION 2: INITIATIVES TO PROMOTE AND SUPPORT YOUTH EMPLOYMENT
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. The Honourable Minister spoke to the work of the Labour Market Review Working Group on page 4 of hi s Statement, second paragraph. And would the Honourable Minister be able to explain to this Honourable House what the nature of that work was over the four months since the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson No, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Third question. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I have a supplementary,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Do not believe that! Do not believe that for a moment.
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair! Speak to the Chair, Members. Bring it this way. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Not for a moment! I am enjoying life to the fullest . [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. Speak this way. [Inaudible interjection and laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I thank you for that, former Premier Dunkley. Thank you for that. I am trying to get back in Cabinet like you are trying t o get back in leadership.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, let us have your question. Let us have your question. [Laughter] [Desk thumping] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, we know you are fi nished. Trust me. We know you are finished. And they know you are finished, too.
The Speaker The Speaker Question, question. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. But, Minister, Minister, obviously this initiative is a very successful one. When all of these apprenti ces become full -time employees do you anticipate to 1740 30 September 2022 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, the answer is yes. The Ministry will be having discussions within Cabinet in terms of extended funding so that we can provide more funding for youth employment initiatives for the people of this country.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Richardson, do you have a third question? What was it, your third question now? Yes. QUESTION 3: INITIATIVES TO PR OMOTE AND SUPPORT YOUTH EMPLOYMENT
Mr. Jarion Richardson Third question. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My third question relates to [this]: The Honourable Minister in his Statement has updated us on three of the nine goals in the Youth Employment Strate gy. Could he give us a progress report on the other five goals?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Six goals.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Six, thank you. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, this Statement pertains to the work that we are doing over the next quarter. And so while movement is happening in the other places, this will be our area of focus. Certainly by having focused on a number of goals within a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jarion Richardson When will the Honourable Minister inform or update this Honourable House on the other six goals?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I endeavour to give quarterly updates as to the initiatives that will be undertaken in those relevant quarters. The Speaker: Thank you. Further supplementary? No?
Mr. Jarion Richardson No further supplementary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, thank you for your contribution this morning in the question- and-answer period. This now brings us to the close of that period on our Order P aper. We now move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member like to make a contribution? Premier. The clock is on. I just remind Members of the clock. Hon. E. David Burt: T hank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. S peaker, on behalf of a ll of my honourable colleagues, a nd certainly I will …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Premier. I have to remind you that you can refer to notes rather than read notes. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh. My apologies, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Even for this?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, my.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. You refer to notes. Hon. E. David Burt: That is going to be tough.
The Speaker The Speaker You refer to notes. Hon. E. David Burt: I am out of practice.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. He became the PLP candidate for constituency 30, Southampton, each schedule, and ran a spiri ted campaign. Certainly, Mr. Speaker, although mis sing success by just a few votes, Members were proud of his performance. And following …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Caines, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speak er, I would like to offer congratulations to our helping services, to the EMO [Emergency Measures Organisation] that was led by Minister Michael Weeks. As you know, last week he went through a — Can you hear me, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker I can hear you. I had to take a second look because I know you have got a twin, and you look a little different this morning.
Mr. Wayne Caines Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker I had to make sure it was the right brother, you know. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Continue on.
Mr. Wayne Caines Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the EMO for the work that they and the emergency services have done through the storm. Mr. Speaker, obviously I would like to declare my i nterest for the staff at BELCO. Mr. Speaker, you know that we have just over 235 members. At the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Deputy Premier, you have your three minutes. Hon. Walter H. Roba n: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would like to pass on condolences to the family of Ms. Mildred Hodgson, a constituent of mine who recently passed …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Speak up. Another Hon. Member: Who is this? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mildred Hodgson. And I am associating Minister Michael Weeks. And other Members of the House, Minister Wayne Furbert, as w ell with this particular condolence. I would like to also, on a happier note, bring a measure of …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good morning to the House and to the listening public.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Mr. Speaker, I would first like to associate myself with the comments by the Premier to Mr. Raymond Tannock and also MP Caines’s [com-ments] to the BELC O staff. I just want to add congratulations also, Mr. Speaker. I know it has been a while—two months as a matter of …
Mr. Dennis Lister III So I would like to associate the whole House, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for that time, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Member, there was a lot of echoing going on at the time. I understand that all of the St. George’s folks wanted to be a part of that congratul ations as well? Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Absolutely!
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We’ll include all the St. George’s folks with everyone else on that one. Minister Weeks, I see you on your feet. You have your three minutes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to start on a positive note and want to be associated …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: He tragically lost his life a few weekends ago in an altercatio n at Horseshoe Bay. It is saddening, Mr. Speaker, to lose any life in our community due to a senseless act. But the loss of such a young life—there is a special pain …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member [have a comment]? I recognise the Opposition Leader. You have your three minutes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to send congratulatory remarks to the organisers of the new Bermuda Maritime Academy. I saw this in today’s …
The Speaker The Speaker The whole House. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: —I would like to associate all of the Members of the House on her recent a ppointment. And I wish her continued success in the future. I would like to associate myself with the comments made in regard to the EMO staff, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I recognise the Honourable Minister from St. George’s to get up to, I guess, support the congratul ations for Somerset. But I will leave that for her to do. MP Ming, you have your three minutes.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and listening audience.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, MP Ming.
Mrs. Renee Ming If there are any comments I do not want to be associated with, it will be those ones. [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming But you know, I wish your team all the best.
The Speaker The Speaker We know you have a good spirit. We know you have a good spirit.
Mrs. Renee Ming It is what it is. There was going to be a winner. There was going to be a loser. And it just was not the outcome that I had hoped and prayed for. But, Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning because I would first of all like to be assoc …
The Speaker The Speaker Are you finished, Member? Thank you. MP Tyrrell, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Or good afternoon, colleagues. First let me associate with the rem arks on the passing of Raymond Tannock. Mr. Tannock and I sat in the other place for a number of years under a di fferent — [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell He sure did. And I appreciated his counsel, certainly. But, Mr. Speaker, I certainly rise in a sad way to ask if this House can send condolences to the following families in my constituency in Warwick who [have loved ones] who passed recently. The first one was—to the Albuoy family …
The Speaker The Speaker The Opposition Leader will be assoc iated.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Yes, I associate the Opposition Leader. 1744 30 September 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly My condolences to her sons, Lloyd and M ichael. Finally, Mr. Speaker, if I could ask that condolences be sent to the family of the late Frederina Darrell. Frederina was not one of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to send condolences to the family and friends of Michael Wagner. He was som eone whom I had just met recently, so I do not have a long history. And there is association around the House, and I would like to include …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I met him more recently, and he was a constituent who was living in a wheelchair after an accident earlier in life. And I certainly enjoyed my visits with him. He was such an affable, friendly and considerate young man. He was a peer, my age. But I did also …
The Speaker The Speaker Any other — I recognise the Minister of Transport. Minister, you have your three minutes. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to ask this House to send a letter of condolence to Mr. Marcus Wilson, who was tragically taken from us earlier this month. I will …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any other Member? I recognise the Opposition Whip. You have your three minutes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to associate myself with the comments made by the Honourable Member Caines as it relates to the EMO, but most especially as it relates to the services and forces that worked during the hurr icane and helped us recover from it. Getting through a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other — The MP Foggo is jumping up and down quite a bit. I have a clear view of you now. I missed you the first time. Go right ahead, MP.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to give brief cond olences to the Richardson family in St. David’s for the loss of Ms. Darlene Richardson. I believe an aunt to the Member who sits —I forget your constituency number —Jarion Richar dson. And the matriarch of former …
Ms. Lovit ta F. Foggo So I would like the House to understand that we are still heroes in the East! I am talking about St. George’s at this point in time. Bermuda House of Assembly [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes. St. George’s and St. D avid’s are cousins, all right? And there are St. David’s people who sit on the St. George’s team. And so I know that St. George's, St. David’s are very happy with the win. [Laughter]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Anyway, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable M ember. The Minister of Education, you have your three minutes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to begin on a sombre note and send condolences to the family of Ms. Frances Rogers, one of my constituents who stayed in Alexandra Cour t. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. R abain: [She] was also married to my daughter’s great -grandfather, Bishop Norris Dic kenson. So I would like condolences sent to the family, and of course associate anyone else who wants to be associated with that.
The Speaker The Speaker She came from a family of educators in the West. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be associated with the comments on the seafood fest in St. George’s, and also add to the acc olades that have been given out to A -Rose Affair, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —who are the winners who defeated the St. David’s Island Warriors in the last game, Mr. Speaker. But those of us who are not fami liar with that because we are all Cup- Match oriented here, the Eastern Counties Association has been in …
The Speaker The Speaker You are the first one to get a buzzer today, Minister. Look at that. MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have to associate myself with the condolences for the Tannock family. As many will know, Raymond ran in …
The Speaker The Speaker I see you concluded on that note. MP Famous, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start off with condolences for one of my dear constituents, Ms. Zoleta Smith, nee Thompson.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that was my comment , yes. Go ahead.
Mr. Christopher Famous I assume the whole House will associate with that.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes.
Mr. Christopher Famous I also want to give cond olences for another Devonshire resident. He actually lived in constituency 13, Mr. Jahi Butterfield of Ale xander Road. I associate myself with my brothers at BELCO. For 30 years we ensure —more than 30 years, but every hurricane we are there. Mr. Speaker, the …
The Speaker The Speaker It has been a while since he made that promise to us, you know. But go ahead.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. Well, I just thought I would mention it.
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
Mr. Christopher Famous I have got it on record now. Mr. Speaker, I would like to associate myself also with Mr. Ire Cannonier, future St. George’s cricket Cup Match player, Berkeleyite, wrong house, but good team.
The Speaker The Speaker The only house.
Mr. Christopher Famous And, Mr. Speaker, 125 years ago on this same street, Court Street, there was a gathering of 27 students a little further north at a place called Samaritan’s Lodge. That is where the birth of the Berkeley Institute started, Mr. Speaker. So from humble beginnings on Court Street, down onto …
The Speaker The Speaker I am waiting for your congratulatory remarks. Who are you congratulating, though? Or condolences? Or condolences?
Mr. Christopher Famous I am congratulating Berk eleyites, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Christopher Famous There are so many in this House on both sides of the fence.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You need to be watching the clock.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, I am watching the clock. But most important, Mr . Speaker, Berkeleyites and Gold House, Respice Finem, Mr. Speaker. Have a great day.
The Speaker The Speaker No, you lost us when you said “Gold House.” MP Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to be associated also with the bereavement and condolences to the Tannock family. I had the opportunity of getting to know him many years ago in the fuel industry when he was a senior at it and quite frankl y taught me the …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And so, to Terry and the kids, my condolences to them as they continue on to grieve. I would like to, as far as congratulations are concerned, thank Ire for carrying on the Cannonier name. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The Cannoniers have been known for cricket, i ncluding myself as opening bowler for St. David’s. [Inaudible interjections and l aughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I would have clean- bowled you any day. Yes. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I do not think you would have seen the ball. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier But also, on a more serious note, I would like to thank Cambridge Beaches. I had the opportunity with the Opposition Leader and Mini ster Rabain, I include him and I saw him come up as well. We did pass in the Hous e, as you know, Mr. Speaker, the …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, Member, Member, Member. Thank you, Members. It looks like no other Members are rising to make a contribution. Oh! Before you do that, Premier, I am going to just add a couple of comments to the condolences, mainly to where we started this morning when we had the moment …
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. He was my landlord where I had my business at the time. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we continued a very good rel ationship that lasted many years. It speaks to the type of man that he was; he didn’t hold that against me. In fact, our friendship grew much more after that. I think he was relieved to be out of here, to be honest, …
The Speaker The Speaker And her children and her brother and “Pilot Mario” Thompson. With those few remarks, I am going to call on the Premier to take the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Until what time do you want us to adjourn until?
The Speaker The Speaker At two o’clock. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay. Mr. Speaker, I move this Honourable House do now adjourn for lunch until 2:00 pm.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No. The House now stands adjourned until 2:00 pm. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:38 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:04 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. The House is now back in session. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker Before we recessed, Members, we had concluded the condolences and congratulatory r emarks. We are now on Matters of Privilege. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON M ATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker I believe that Government has a few Bills to introduce today. Premier, I believe the first is in your name. FIRST READING PAYROLL TAX AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION (NO. 2) ACT 2022 STAMP DUTIES AMENDMENT ACT 2022 CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (NO. 3) ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy Premier, I believe the next one is in your name. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. Bermuda House of Assembly FIRST READING FUELS BILL 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: Fuels Bill 2022. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister of Works. FIRST READING WEST END DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AMENDMENT ACT 2022
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I am i ntroducing the following Bi ll for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2022.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And the Minister of Social Development and Seniors. Minister. FIRST READING PARISH COUNCILS AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: Parish …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister of Transport, I think you have the last one. FIRST READING GARAGES LICENSING ACT 2022 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill which according to section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution requires the Governor’s recommendation so it may be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTION
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. We now move on. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker The first matter is the second reading of the Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act [2022] be now read for a second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? [There are] none. Continue. BILL SECOND READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank y ou very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members are now requested to give consideration to the Bill entitled the Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Opposition Leader, yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, you will be pleased to note that in principle we agree with the Government’s recom-mendation and the relief in regard to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. I am happy to rise and give a few comments in relation to this particular measure bought by the Premier and Minister of Finance. Certainly, as the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? MP Adams. I know you were having problems with your microphone. Yes. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, let me be the first to say that in my opinion this is long overdue for you and me to have a direct conversation, one on one in this forum.
The Speaker The Speaker There you go. [Laughter]
Mr. Jache Adams Yes. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Been looking forward to it.
Mr. Jache Adams Indeed. So, allow me to add a bit of colour to this co ntribution to this Bill. Mr. Speaker, according to the August CPI [Consumer Price Index], delivered with the U.S. B ureau of Labor Statistics in the US, the inflation rate was 8.5 per cent, which was a slight …
Mr. Jache Adams But, Mr. Speaker, w ith this Bill, we have ensured that every time [we] go to the pump, we are saving money. Mr. Speaker, those are just some of the accomplishments of this Government. And I list them not to suggest that everything is wonderful, but rather to emphasise that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Minister Hayward, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, as I talk to the residents of Bermuda, the cost of living in our society is one of the major concerns. There are two primary reasons why residents are making …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? MP Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am happy to weigh in on this particular A ct. I have . . . well, first, let me say that I am glad to see this. I have believed (having been in the industry, I declare my interest) that for far too long …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And in fact, yes. And I'm sure I am hearing interpolations already taking place. Yes, that is fine. We are talking about this. But at some point in time we will talk about their increases as well in other areas. But we are talking about increase, the i ncrease . …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So— [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I found at the same time as you.
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair. Talk to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, y es, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I found out about the same time as he found out. Basically, he didn't know. So, it is good to be able to see this here, that were taking a stab at this. I really do not know what the $6 mi llion the Premier speaks of, in the grand …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wi sh to make a contribution at this time? None other? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Sounds like they are writing your speech for you. Hon. E. David Burt: I know, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I just have to say it is so good to be back here in the House of Assembly. It is much more—
The Speaker The Speaker Very much so. I am glad all Members feel that way. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes. It is much more— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You missed me.
The Speaker The Speaker I sure did. [Laughter and inaudible interjection] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: It is. And so, from the perspective, Mr. Speaker, I welcome the support of Members of the Government, from backbenchers of the Government, and from Members of the Opposition, b ecause I think that all …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. I call on MP Foggo to take the Chair and take the House into Committee. MP Foggo, you have the Chair. House in Committee at 2:52 pm [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members. Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bil l entitled the Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 . Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I would like …
The Chairman Chairman You may. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, clause 1 is the citation and provides a title for the Bill. Clause 2 amends the Fifth Schedule to the principal Act by inserting a new end use relief, CPC 4712, with respect to fuel for …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any other Members who wish to speak to the clauses? I recognise the Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. I asked the Minister of Finance to address this during his general overview. And I would like for the clarity …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Premier, would you like to speak to that? Or are there any other Members who wish to pose questions first? Premier. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E . David Burt: It is not “end users.” It is . . . Madam Chairman, if I may?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may. Hon. E. David Burt: It is not “end users” it is “end use.” It is “end use.” So, in the customs tariff nomenclature, its end use, and in this case is end use be-cause the end use is only fuel that is going to fuel st ations …
The Chairman Chairman —the relief — Hon. E. David Burt: —the BIU, Cole, , you support the BIU gas station [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: But I thought you were —
The Chairman Chairman Realised the relief. Hon. E. David Burt: But that is the definition of end use relief. So, it is a specific end use. And as you can see in clause 2, it does say for refilling stations.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who wish to speak?
The Chairman Chairman Member from constituency 12.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Under [clause] 2, amends the Fifth Schedule. The last category, “Goods of tariff codes” it mentions light oils, kerosene, gas oils, diesel, and the likes. I am just curious then. The $6 million that the Premier mentioned, that rebate, does that include t hese other fuels as well?
The Chairman Chairman Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Yes, it does. If the Honourable Member wants exact figures and if you have time, I can go ahead and pull them up. But the approximate figures are, it is about $4 million for gasoline and $2 …
The Chairman Chairman Sure. And while you are doing that, perhaps there are other Members who may have questions regarding the clauses t hus far. There being none, Premier, when you have the figures. Hon. E. David Burt: Absolutely, Madam Chairman. The total amount for diesel is . . . you know, I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. Are there any other Members who wish to pose questions on the clauses? There being none. Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman And before I could even ask you . . . 1758 30 September 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: I’m sorry.
The Chairman Chairman No, that is fine. Go ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Yes, there are no objections. Continue. It has been agreed. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections? There being none, continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. No objections. Approved. [Motion carried: The Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 was c onsidered by a Committee of t he whole House and passed without amendment.]
The Chairman Chairman We call on the Speaker of the House to resume his seat. House resumed at 3:01 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. Are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported to the House. That now moves us on to the next item which is the second …
The Speaker The Speaker Afternoon. Hon. Diallo V. S. Ra bain: I am trying to push the day forward.
The Speaker The Speaker I see that. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled Bermuda College Amendment Act 2022 now be read the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are no ne. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING BERMUDA COLLEGE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, this Bill pr oposes to amend the Bermuda College Act 1974 to allow the Bermuda College (the college) to appoint its own auditor. While amending …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. And I would like to thank the Minister for giving a fulsome explanation for the why behind changing or amending the Berm uda College Act. The other piece as well is that I want to begin by saying that I certainly have nothing but positive messages and positive …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I'm just saying. I'm just sa ying. [Inaudibl e interjections]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I had to let it go. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue to speak to the Chair. Speak to the Chair.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker. So, with that in mind, we move on to the accreditation. And the accreditation has boosted the reputation of the Bermuda College by leaps and bounds. Absolutely no doubt about it. I mean, ever ybody should be excited to want to sign up and enrol, to …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, they, just generally speaking, just want to make sure that our pr ogrammes are good, high quality and they want to make sure the operations are good, you know, the maintenance care facilities, IT infrastructure, et cetera. I did not notice anything about the auditing. But then the Minister …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Jackson. Does any other MP . . . Opposition Leader? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the Education Minister for his detailed brief and I want to get back to the accreditation side. As you will know, and most people in this room will know, Berm uda College has …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: If the Member would allow that. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And I think it probably started with the Member that spoke before. Audits have always been needed by NECHE to …
The Speaker The Speaker And it is not just for the Bermuda College, it is for all institutions that apply underneath it. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: [Yes], all of them. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. So, that reinforces my question. So, if we have been always required to have an audited financial …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Go right ahead. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, there was nothing in my Statement talked about the audits being insufficient that are comi ng from the Auditor General. But what NECHE is saying is institutions must have sufficient …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. So then will thi s be a temporary measure, or will it be final going forward?
The Speaker The Speaker Have you finished your presentation? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, I have.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister, that was the question that he put to you in the end. So, you may want to take note of it. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. Christopher Famous Let me first declare my unashamed interests. I am a Bermuda College alumnus and I have set on the Board of Governors for the last four years, Mr. Speaker. I won’t get into the nitty - gritty. I am sure that the Minister is more than capable of sorting that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? Opposition Whip, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to ask a question of the Honourable Minister. But I would first like to thank him for his efforts to communicate clearly his reason and logic for undertaking this course of action. And, of course, the Auditor General for her response to …
Mr. Jarion Richardson —and I want to say NECHE, specifically relating to autonomy. The Third Standard says that “The institution has sufficient” (this is looking at the Bermuda College) “autonomy and control of its programs and operations consistent with its mission to be held directly account-able for meeting of the commission’s Standards for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. That is another question that I see you closed on, Member, for the Minister. Minister Hayward, would you like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Jason Hayward: Certainly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me to have intervention into this debate. I, too, am a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Is there any other . . . Minister Burch.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I did not plan to speak on this, but we have headed down a road that suggests that this is a unique situation. It also suggests that some of those on the other side never served in government or never experienced, particularly qua ngos, being late wi th their audits. …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —everybody else in the country can do math. And so, Mr. Speaker, it is a source of significant frustration because the emplo yees and those involved in those entities, go the extra mile to get an audit, are impeded in that process in terms of meeting the deadline, and they …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Pardon? [ Inaudible in terjection]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I think there needs to be a wider look at the whole process of audits b ecause we are going to be criticised again because BLDC is still three years out of date. And we have been five years trying to get across that line. So I think that there …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? None. Minister of Education, would you like to wrap up here? Hon. Dia llo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is actually a very small amendment, but we did know that it would generate some type …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. MP Foggo, would you like to take the Chair and take us into Committee? House in Committee at 3:47 pm [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL BERMUDA COLLEGE AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Bermuda College Amendment Act 2022 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, I would like to move all three clauses.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that all three clauses be moved. I am sure there are no objections. Minister, you may continue. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, this Bill seeks to amend the Bermuda College Act 1974 in relation to the appointment of an …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to the clauses?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I have a question, Madam Chairman. Good afternoon.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Okay. Member from constituency 20, is it? You have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thanks. So my question is, Should the Bermuda Co llege with this amendment be able to hire a third- party auditor, once those audits are signed off by the board of the Bermuda College, will those financial stat ements be the financial statements that will appear in their published annual …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson It's all clauses. So, I am speaking to —
The Chairman Chairman Excuse me. Members, Members, —
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Sorry, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman —please recognise the Chair.
The Chairman Chairman If you do have a query or question, Member, can you please refer to me so I can get the Member who is speaking to respond? And rather than just respond, recognise the Chair. Minister, you have the floor, if there are no other Members who wish to ask a …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I just want to build on what my colleague has just said. I know, historically, the Auditor General has subcontracted the audit to some of the audit firms. And when she subcontracts the audit to the audit firms, then when the final audit is …
The Chairman Chairman Member, are you going to answer the question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. I’m leading up to my question.
The Chairman Chairman Just a minute. Okay. Can you please ask the question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I am just setting in the context for the question.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Keep it extremely brief. Thank you. And this is in reference to which part of the clauses? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: All three.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you . Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: And I am just building on what the Minister said, in this case, the college, in essence, has engaged an audit firm to do the audit. The audit firm has the authority to sign off on it. Can the Minister please …
The Chairman Chairman Excuse me. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Because I asked him, Can he give me the reason why it must go back to the A uditor General if a large, reputable, independent audit firm has already approved it?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who wish to ask questions on that same line? Member Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Madam Chai rman. 1768 30 September 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I rise to ask a question as it relates to clause 3. Specifically, I am looking at section 5, [new section] (1B). If I may r ead with your permission?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may. Continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. “A person shall not be appointed as an auditor under subsection (1A) unless he is a member entitled to practise as a public accountant under the Chartered Professional Accountants of Bermuda Act 1973.” Madam Chairman, as you are probably aware, not all things are alike. Public accountants vary …
The Chairman Chairman Member, can you ask the question?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Sure. The qualifier is the word “appropriate.” And we do not have that word in this legislation. So, my question to the Honourable Minis ter is, Will the proportionality or appropriateness of the audit selection be entirely dependent upon the college board? Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to ask questions? Okay, Minister, you have your responses. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you. Yes, it was interesting, the last comment. The purpose of us having a regulatory body is to ensure that those persons who are admitted …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The other question asked by the Opposition Leader does not make sense. You would have heard m e speak on a few [occasions] to say that we are hoping that the Auditor General does not want to do the audit all over …
The Chairman Chairman Member, can you please refer your comments to the Chair. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The other question from Ms. Jackson is that the audit that would be done by a duly appropriate audit firm in Bermuda would be made public, just as an y other audit would …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to ask questions? I recognise the Member Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Madam Chairman. Would the Minister consider adding the pr oportionality principle by adding the language of appr opriate?
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Ra bain: Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, we will not be doing any amendments to this Bill. I'm presenting as presented today.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other questions as it relates to the clauses? There being none, Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, I would like to move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved. Are there any objections? There being none, Minister. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Madam Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections? There are none, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Madam Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections? There are none. Minister, thank you. [Motion carried: The Bermuda College Amendment Act 2022 was c onsidered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.]
The Chairman Chairman We call on the Speaker of the House to resume his seat. House resumed at 3:57 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lis ter, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE BERMUDA COLLEGE AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bermuda College Amendment Act 2022 being r eported to the House as printed? There are none. The matter has been repor ted. This actually brings us to a close of the Order Paper today. So we can do our third readings now. Premier, …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, Premier. BILL THIRD READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 be read [a] third time by its title o nly and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Customs Tariff Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 was given a third reading and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Education. SUSPENSIO N OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended and enable me to move the Bill entitled Bermuda College Amendment Act 2022 be now read for the third time by its …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, Minister. BILL THIRD READING BERMUDA COLLEGE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill no w be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Bermuda College Amendment Act 2022 was given a third reading and passed.] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1770 30 September 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Friday, October 7.
The Speaker The Speaker Is there any objection? There are no objections to it. Does anyone wish to speak to that?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Famous. How are you, sir? You have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous I will not take that long. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Ch ristopher Famous Mr. Speaker, it is so nice to be back in your House once again.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY RETURNING TO IN -PERSON SITTINGS
Mr. Christopher Famous It has been a long time— two and a half years.
The Speaker The Speaker It is nice to hav e you all back.
Mr. Christopher Famous The last time we were in the House there were more people on this side. [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, firstly, I just want to thank the . . . it has been a long two years, two and a half years f or us to be in this House. And I want to thank those first responders, emergency services and so on that have— [Inaudible interjection] [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah, ah , ah! Mr. Whip. Mr. Whip. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Yes. All right.
Mr. Christopher Famous Stop my time. Stop my time.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. We understand that it is your first occasion to sit here. We understand that. Continue.
Mr. Christopher Famous I will forgive the new Member. This is his first day. Firstly, I want to welcome the new Members into the House, MP from constituency 23 especially, MP from constituency 19,— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: New Deputy.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. Any new Members in the House? [Crosstalk]
Mr. Christopher Famous Beg pardon? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on.
Mr. Christopher Famous Sorry. Anyway, Mr. Speaker, just to say, listen, we have not been in the House for a long time. We have known each other mostly on Zoom for the last two and a half years, or whatever. What do they call that thing?
The Speaker The Speaker WebEx.
Mr. Christopher Famous WebEx. Right. I want to thank the HOA [House of Assembly] staff that have kept us in check even while we were online. Mr. Speaker, we are at the point in our country where fake news seems to be the news of the day—people just making things up, putting them …
Mr. Christop her Famous I was going to call his name.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No, you weren’t.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, I was. I called it ye sterday. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher Famous No. No. No. No. Today is a good day. Today is a good day. Bermuda House of Assembly [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Yea, though I walk through the valley . . .
The Speaker The Speaker Just speak to the Chair.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Just direct your comments directly here. That way you will be safe. GENERATI NG DIVISIONS ON SOCIAL MEDIA
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, one of the hallmarks of Devonshire politics is that we believe in relationships. It does not matter which team you are on, we believe in relationships. Last week, I saw . . . two weeks ago, I saw MP Caines take it upon himself to do something in …
Mr. Christopher Famous She said, You can still call me. Ain’t I just across the street? And I said, Well, you know, your MP is Mr. Dunkley. She said, Yes. He calls me. He sends birt hday cards. You know, if I need anything done— [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous You don’t call them? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Work with me! Work with me! [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker I think you caught him off guard with that compliment today.
Mr. Christopher Fa mous I pranked him. But an yway, he is eating into my time. Mr. Speaker, here’s the thing. There are pe ople who are on Royal Gazette who are at each other’s throats every day. They are on Facebook at each ot her’s throats every day. And they sort of paint …
The Speaker The Speaker I hope none of these students have to take a note home to their parents. Just be nice.
Mr. Christopher Famous Or have to come— [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, yes, yes, yes. Mr. Speaker, the point I am getting at is irr espective of whichever side you are on, or even with whatever side you are on, on a particular side, the point is that the people are looking to us for leadership.
Mr. Christopher Famous They have continued to look to us for leadership, not just through COVID -19, not just through a hurricane, not just through a financial crisis. They are just looking to us even if leadership means, Listen, I do not know the answer. I will point you to the right direction. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous, for keeping it short. Does any other Member wish to keep it short? MP Dunkley, you have the floor. GENERATING DIVISIONS ON SOCIAL MEDIA Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I look for the reset of that clock. Although I doubt that I …
The Speaker The Speaker No accountability. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. No accountability. You can say how bad Dak Prescott was last week, but it does not mean anything. So, Mr. Speaker, especia lly when we face real challenges in our country, we need all of us to try to row in the right …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Clarify that. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. Mi chael H. Dunkley: Well, we’re short on numbers, Mr. Speaker, — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva : Point of order, Mr. Speaker! [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker We all got the gist of it. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Well, we are short on numbers so they are trying to put som e strength over here. We appreciate it. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva : Point of order, Mr. Speaker! Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Member …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Continue on. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, as we try to heal some of the challenges we have, as we try to move forward, we need people moving and rowing in the right direction. And as the Honourable Member Curtis Dickinson said, we should not just come t …
The Speaker The Speaker Just remember where you are. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I did. I did. I remember and I am back here, not on Zoom. It’s a real bugger, Mr. Speaker, because it comes quickly for 24 to 48 hours and it really, it takes you. It takes you to a place …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What kind of flu do you get? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Luckily, I haven’t had it yet. And you don’t want to get it either. But when we come to the fall and the winter, Mr. Speaker, I am more worried about the flu because a lot of people who …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Now he’s making up fairy tales, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Now, Mr. Speaker,
The Speaker The Speaker Let him finish. Let him finish his point. Develop your point, go ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Now, Mr. Speaker, I believe it has hurt Bermuda financially as well.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Here we go. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Not only by cruise ship people who have said that, but, Mr. Speaker, by international businesspeople who . . . and the Honourable Minister has said, the Honourable Premier and Mini ster of Finance said in his Statement this morning that international business …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Can the Honourable Member please state what restrictions he is not in support of under the public health emergency? As the only r estrictions that exist under the p ublic health emergency as of Monday are masks to be required …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, let me be very clear. I am referring to the emergency measures that are carried on for two more months and the Travel Authorisation form, Mr. Speaker. If the Government cannot see that this is an issue with people, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Where is this? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I had it out, Mr. Speaker. Even whispered conversati ons with health officials down there were saying it was time to end, Mr. Speaker. I am not naming who they are.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hearsay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I hear Honourable Members say, Hearsay, Mr. Speaker. But why would they have a conversation with me, Mr. Speaker?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You named them. You just did. Everybody knows who they are. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No. A name is saying “Zane De Silva.” That’s a name. Right? I don’t need to name him. So, Mr. Speaker, I ask the Government, if it is all about the money, just stand up …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. WORKING TOGETHER FOR A COMMON CAUSE
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, there was a murder—the first murder that happened. And the question was asked, Cain, where is your brother Abel? And, Mr. Speaker, you know the response. He responded, Am I my brother’s keeper?
The Speaker The Speaker My brother’s keeper.
Mr. Wayne Caines The question that I would like to pose this afternoon, Mr. Speaker, is: Are we our brother’s and sister’s keepers? We have heard from MP Famous and he, in his opening delivery, shared that there has to be a step change. The step change has to centre around this community …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Wayne Caines As you know, Mr. Speaker, I am blessed to be the MP for constituency 14. In our constituency we ha ve an area called One Way Deepdale. One Way Deepdale was the epicentre for antisocial behaviour in Bermuda, Mr. Speaker. The neighbours were plagued with the selling of drugs, people …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Honourable Member.
Mr. Wayne Caines The Honourable Member, t hank you. The Honourable Member donated the soil, truckloads of soil. Other Members in this community, ATL, Wilmot Trucking, they came by. Tons of people volunteered. And guess what this neighbourhood did, Mr. Speaker? They decided to plant a garden. Now, somebody would say that it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Mr. Hayward. WORKING TOGETHER FOR A COMMON CAUSE Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, it is a shame that this Chamber is not full because if we, as politicians, were down on our motivation or we …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member. Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: Honourable Member [Famous] gave this ill usion of this Kumbaya . There is no unity between us. One party is in power. And the other party is seeking to be in power and they will do all that they have to, including all of …
The Speaker The Speaker I would want to think that every Me mber in this room is above that fake news and stuff. So, let me just throw that out there for everybody’s ears. I would think that we are all above that. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I have personally felt it. And …
The Speaker The Speaker I said I hope they would be. You stressed the word “hope. ” Hon. Jason Hayward: I have hope that I will be r eferred to as Minister Hayward while I hold this office, and that when I look at their blo gs, they are saying why they disagree with …
Mr. Christopher Famous Absolutely. Hon. Jason Hayward: And just as his constituents desire from him a safe and healthy environment, m y constituents require from him the same. Because I too have constituents who are seriously concerned about their health and well -being and are also looking to leave Bermuda because of that. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Cannon ier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did not realise how much we missed each other. As was pointed out by the Premier, you got two pictures up there. It might be time to change those pictures behind you.
The Speaker The Speaker They only just went up for the last si tting that we had.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. I was not quite sure if I wanted to speak.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You don’t have to.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And therein lies the problem.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Why would that be a problem?
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair. You’ll be all right . Just speak to the Chair. THE NEED TO GROW BERMUDA’S ECONOMY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier You know, the Premier spoke (quote) “relief now and more relief to come.” And I am very much appreciative for the fact that we see these certain relief packages coming. If you listen to the blogs and if you listen to whomever, after an article is written and the likes, …
The Speaker The Speaker All in time.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier An Honourable Member came and he said, Look, look (in his Bermuda vernacular). And I just love the way we talk, and we need to keep that going. Hey, look, boss. Listen, man, I'm hearing that man Bob, the former Finance Minister, and all these byes, they made millions of …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And therein lies the problem. You are hearing it here in the House of Assembly. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Personally! Now is not the time to joke because we got people out there talking about us as leaders in this House and we need to get serious. So, if we are going to get serious, we are g oing to follow what Honourable Member Caines is sa ying. There …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I don’t know what he is bu ying and selling. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Come on, Craig. If you are going to be honest —
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair. Talk to the Chair. Talk to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Unbelievable! Now, if he lets me finish the story and stops interpolating (right?), the fact is that by t he time we got to the end of the conversation, I said — [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair, talk to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier By the time we got to the end of the conversation, I said, D o you understand how foolish you sound? If I had all the money that people said that I got, I would not be in this House of Assembly, I can tell you that right now! Why …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Because too many people are complaining, It’s going in phases. I heard that it can go tomorrow . That's when it can go. It is affecting. I spent I don't know how many days trying to help people out. And Honourable Members in here, I called them for help in …
Mr. L. Craig Can nonier I'm not admitting to anything. He made an assumption, and I am going with his assumption. And there goes the unfortunate ci rcumstance, Mr. Speaker, playing right out in front of this House, why we have a challenge, because som ebody's always got som ething to say. Always! My point …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It’s no help. When it is the right time, yes. But right now, people are hurting. We got to get serious, put our glasses on, sharpen our pencils, and if somebody needs advice or wants to hear, What do you think about this here? I remember many, many, many, many …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I wonder why. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes. Why is that? Yes, it continues on, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, thank you for your contribution. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Opposition Whip, you have your 20 minutes. WORKING TOGETHER FOR A COMMON CAUSE
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I was recently invited by a journalist to give a one- or two -word answer about the governing party, and I thought it was a really interesting question. I know a lot of people in the governing party as a wider body. I have a lot …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Indeed, indeed. And, Mr. Speaker, we are now a body that is challenged with probably the greatest challenge that Bermuda is ever going to face. I mean, if World War II, rationing, and the Great Depression and other aspects challenged Bermuda, our cost of living crisis, added with our inflation, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Looks like none other. Mr. Premier. M Ps ENCOURAGED TO DISCUSS POLICY AND NOT ATTACK THE PERSON Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what I would say is that certainly it …
The Speaker The Speaker We welcome all Members back. Hon. E. David Burt: T hank you. —and a little bit of camaraderie as well. And certainly, during this motion to adjourn we have heard a number of contributions from Honourable Members, passionate contributions, speaking to their truth and sharing certainly their views and their …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Members, as you know the close of motion to adjourn brings a close to the House. Before I put the gavel, I would just like to make one comment I intended to have made earlier this morning. There were technical improvements we were trying to do to …
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