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July 15, 2022

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Premier Burt announced a $15 million relief package to help working families deal with rising costs, including tax rebates for workers earning under $96,000 and $150 payments to parents for school supplies. The Health Minister outlined improvements to the travel authorization system to make it easier for repeat visitors. The Works Minister announced plans to merge two government corporations to reduce costs and duplication, while also launching a study of the Government Quarry operations.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jul 15, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 35
Speeches 858

Key Topics

Economic relief package for working families worth $15 millionTravel authorization process improvements for tourists and residentsMerger of two government corporations (WEDCO and BLDC)UN Ocean Conference attendance and marine protection effortsGovernment Quarry Depot feasibility study

Bills & Motions

Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for 2022/23 was tabled to fund the relief package
Various regulations from 2021 related to unemployment benefits were tabled
Customs Tariff Amendment Act was mentioned as coming later in the session

Notable Moments

Opposition Leader questioned whether the Premier's economic package announcement was interfering with later legislative debate on the same topic
Premier emphasized this relief package is "just the start" of government assistance for working families
Works Minister noted it has taken 20 years to move forward on merging government corporations, calling for faster government action

Debate Transcript

858 speeches from 35 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. The House is about to begin its session for today. Ms. Beale, will you lead us in prayer this morning? PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Ms. Beale. Members, the House is now in session. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 1 July 2022]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes of the 1 st of July have been circulated. Are there any amendments or omissions? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 1 July 2022 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGY
The Speaker The Speaker We have been notified by Minister Wayne Furbert that he will be absent today and un able to attend any of today’s session. Members, just for your clarity, the SharePoint is back up. At our l ast sitting we had a problem with SharePoint. The SharePoint is back up and …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker This morning, Members and listening audience, we have 30- odd papers and communic ations —actua lly three pages of them. Starting with the Minister of Finance, Premier, would you like to present your long list of communic ations this morning? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE ( NO. 1 ) FOR 2022/23 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the powers conferred by section 96 of the Schedule to the Constitution of Bermuda, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly Supplementary …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The next communication this morning is in the name of the Minister for Ec onomy and Labour. Minister, would you like to present yours? GUIDELINES: SUBMITTING APPLICATIONS FOR APPROVED RESIDENTIAL SCHEMES Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And the next two are in the name of the Mini ster of Tourism. Minister, would you like to present yours at this time? Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY ANNUAL REPORT 2021 BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY CONSOLIDATED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Ministers, for the communications that were presented this morning. We will now move on. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no ne. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have some 13 Statements this morning. We will start with the Premier. Premi er.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, we just cannot see the Premier’s Statement on the Shar ePoint site. So can someone just confirm that it is available for us?
The Speaker The Speaker It is available in the SharePoint.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member One moment. Let me just check.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. You are probably making reference to the first Statement.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, Mr. Speaker, I am.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, this is the Statement that I should have made a comment about, first off, correct? Members, I am going to ask your indulgence. That particular Statement is very time- sensitive. And the time sensitivity relates to a matter later on today. Once we have passed that period, I am …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Standing Order 20, A nticipati on] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: From an operational perspective, would this be perceived as anticipating a debate that is to come this afternoon? Because the Premier is speaking about his economic package and we have legislation that is …
The Speaker The Speaker I note your point of concern and point of order. Premier and Opposition Leader, if the Premier gets into details of issues, then he could cross that line. If he is giving an overview from the perspective of what has been done or intends to be done, it is acceptable. …
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to allow it to continue at this point, Opposition Leader, only regarding what has been given to the Premier to make sure he does not go too in- depth int o anything further , other than giving the number s that has been given. Okay? Hon. N. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I must also emphasise this package is not the end of the relief this PLP Gover nment will deliver. The cost of food is increasing, and in concert with the Cost of Living Commission, food i mporters and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to present your Stat ement now? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. UNITED NATIONS OCEAN CONFERENCE 2022 Hon. Wal ter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to inform the Honourable House of my attendance at the United Nations Ocean Conference in Lisbon, Portugal, which w as held from the 27th of June to the 1st of July 2022. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. TRAVEL AUTHORISATION PROCESS UPDATE Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Sp eaker and Honourable Members, in early June I announced changes to the travel authorisation [TA] that improved the process for travellers, and we continue to see travellers having better experiences due to those changes. The i mprovements included …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister. QUANG O OPERATIONAL CHANGES
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to provide a further update on operational changes at two quangos , namely, the West End Development Corporation [WEDCO] and the Bermuda Land Development Co mpany [BLDC]. Mr. Speaker, before getting into the specifics of those changes, it is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Min ister. Members, the next Statement is also in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister, would you like to continue?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. QUARRY DEPOT FEASIBILITY STUDY
Lt. Col. Hon . David A. Burch As this Honourable House may be aware, the Ministry of Public Works issued a request for proposals (RFP) two weeks ago on Friday, July the 1 st, 2022, for a financial feasibility study on the Government Quarry Depot located in Hamilton Parish. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, some background …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members , the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I was just checking my sound is okay.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good morning. Just chec king my sound is okay. I was having computer difficulties earlier this morning.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Go right ahead. 1578 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly SCHOLARSHIP AND AWARDS RECIPIENTS 2022 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, this Stat ement is for the 2022 scholarship and awards recip ients. Mr. Speaker, I would like to celebrate and commend the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is also in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister, would you like to continue? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. TABLING OF A BILL ENTITLED BERMUDA COLLEGE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, this morning I would like to give brief remarks regarding a Bill ent itled the Bermuda College Amendment Act 2022 , which I intend to table later today. The Bill …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Minister. Member s, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Social Development and Seniors. Minister, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. STATE OF GOV ERNMENT GRANT SUPPORTED NURSING HOMES Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to highlight to the Honourable Members and the public about the unprecedented financial challenges that many of our nursing homes are currently experiencing and the recent financial relief provided to those nursing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. ECONOMIC INVESTMENT CERTIFICATE IN BERMUDA , UPDATE Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am elated to rise to present to th is Honourable House an update on investment in the Economic Investment Certificate in Bermuda . The total number of Economic Investment Certificate [EIC] holders has exceeded our …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Tourism. Minister, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. TOURISM UPDATE Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, t oday I will pr ovide an overview of the Bermuda Tourism Authority's Annual Report and Audited Financials for the 2021 fiscal year and the state of tourism so far this summer. The Authority is guided by the National Tourism …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the final Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahe ad. SKYPORT MINIMUM REVENUE GUARANTEE Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Speaker, on the 12 th of November 2021, I advised this Honourable House of the payments made as set out in the Project Agre ement between Skyport and the Bermuda Airport A uthority. I wish t o …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that brings us to a close of the Statements period for this morning. We will now move on to the next item on the Order Paper. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES The S peaker: There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Members, there are not any written questions today, so the questions will focus on those that have been submitted in reference to Statements given this morning by Ministers and Junior Ministers. Members, the 60 minutes allotted for this stage will be noted. And if time is left, that time will …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Point of order, Mr. S peaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I am asking the question. What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member just asked four questions in a row.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, the point of or der is noted. Member, the question should be sort of a si ngle question, and then you could submit your suppl ementaries after it and additional questions. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. So my first question is, Can the Premier please tell us how …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am grateful to the Hono urable Member for highlighting the relief that this Government is providing to the people of this country. This economic relief package is a start. It is a start. During the debate later today, the supplementary …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Just stick to the topic right now, which is the education. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplementary, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Would the Premier think that the Statement, the way it is currently structured, can be construed as discriminatory? Discriminatory against public school, private schools and home schools?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , I do not accept what the Honourable Opposition Leader is saying. What I am saying is that the Government has a co nstrained budget. We are doing what we can to support the students in this country. And the Honourable O pposition …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No. Those are my questions. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly Premier, in reference to that question, MP Cannonier also has questions for you. MP, would you like to put your questions? QUESTION 1: GOVERNMENT RELIEF PACKAGE
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay, video is up. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to everyone. And good morning to our Premier this Question Period. On page 2, the Premier in the second par agraph makes the statement, “While we have heard a lot of comment from the Opposition, the fact is no …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Declaration of interest?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I have made my declaration, many, many times over and over and over, and ev eryone knows.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I will respond in t his fashion: The Statement speaks for itself. Nobody in this country has paid more at the pump since Febr uary—no one. Those are the facts, Mr. Speaker. This Government has fulfilled its pledge and is acting in the …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Supplementary, yes. Since the inception of holding the prices up until this point, what percentage decrease has the Government tak en on taxes on fuel to accommodate this price freeze?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, it is stated inside my Ministerial Statement that the expected amount that this will cost the Treasury this year is $6.4 million.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No, Mr. Speaker. He did not answer the question. I asked specifically what percentage up until this point —what decrease in percen tage to government —duty for government —has this Government sacrificed up until this point?
The Speaker The Speaker You are looking for a percentage rather than a dollar response?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Well, I already stated prev iously we know that the Government gets 50 per cent, the retailer gets 27 per cent and the wholesaler is 23 per cent. What reduction did this Government put in place up until now to accommodate the price freeze?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have the full -year figure. If the Honourable Member is asking for the fi gure between April up until July, I can seek to get those figures to him. I believe it is in the range of about $1.5 million, but I …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Do you have an additional question? Because you have used your two supplementaries on the first question.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your second question. QUESTION 2: GOVERNMENT RELIEF PACKAGE
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Second ques tion: Since the price freeze, which I believe was in February or March, we are now into July, the Government takes a percentage of fuel for its duty. I would like to know, not in dollar value, has the Government reduced its fee or taxes on fuel from …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the fuel price mechanism that has been put into place was put into place following discussions with importers to know that the Government will reduce taxes in order to keep the price at the pump the same. As I said in my Mini …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary, yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. In response to that answer by the Honourable Premier, are the wholesalers and retailers in full support of Government’s measures to date?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I can say that there are many different issues related to fuel supply in this country. And I am not going to say that all wholesalers or retailers are going to support it. But what I can tell you is that this Government …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, second supp leme ntary, Mr. Speaker. Can the Honourable Premier provide to this House information in regard to any commitments that Government might have made? Have they been fully honoured since the freeze in February? The Oppos ition supports the ability to make …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Government meets all of the commitments of which we have made. The fact is that this is a complex mechanism, but it is something that is being done to protect the people of this country from the increasing price of global fuel. …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Those are your two supplementaries. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member have a supplementary or a question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I have a question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. One second. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker MP De Silva. MP De Silva. MP De Si lva. MP De Silva. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: He is gone now, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker His mic was on, and for some reason I went in there and we shut it off from here. Normally, I cannot. MP Cannonier, were you finished with your questions? Because you had asked t wo and a supplementary came off of your second question. Do you have a third …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker You have none?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Dunkley, you can put your question. QUESTION 1: GOVERNMENT RELIEF PACKAGE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Premier mentioned commi tments that were made to the wholesalers. And he mentioned that later toda y the commitment will be met. Up until today, [or] …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the commitments were made to reduce the pri ce of gasoline taxes to Bermuda House of Assembly keep these prices stable. That is the mechanism that the Government has put into place. The fact is that it was done immediately. It takes time …
The Speaker The Speaker Just be mindful that even though there is an opportunity to debate some of this under differing Orders of the Day, Question Period is open for questions. So Members have the right to ask questions as they see fit. Any other questions, MP? Or supplementary or other? Hon. Michae l …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Okay. Premier, those are all the questions that were down for you this morning on that Statement. We now move on. Deputy Premier, you have a question in regard to your Statement. The Oppos ition Leader would like to put questions to you. Opposition Leader. QUESTION 1: UNITED …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I did not hear the full question of the Honourable Opposition Leader. Could he repeat the question, please?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Has the French Gover nment made a decision, or are they close to making a decision, to become a signatory to the Hamilton Declaration? Hon. Walter H. Roban: The answer is no. The French Government is a member of the European Union. And so …
The Speaker The Speaker supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you for introducing the EU [European U nion]. [His] Statement said that [he was] pleased to have made significant steps to the EU providing more support to the Commission. Can he explain what significant steps the EU has made in …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, the second suppl ementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: [The Honourable Minister] also indicated that there was a country that he was working with or negotiating with to become a member of the Sargasso Sea Commission. Can he share the name of the country? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I would prefer …
The Speaker The Speaker Second question, yes. QUESTION 2: UNITED NATIONS OCEAN CONFERENCE 2022 Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Can the Minister provide a current update as to where we stand with our own Bermuda economy and Marine Spatial Plan?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, that was not the topic of my statement; it was to report on the UN con-ference. We will in the not -too-distant future be provi ding a lot more information. The approval of the plan officially has to go through the governmental process …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary, yes? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I will read what the Minister said, and then I will ask my question. On page 3 he said, “I shared with the other countr ies details of Be rmuda's journey in developing our own blue economy and Marine Spatial Plan.” So …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, all I did was talk about the journey that we have gone with them, and the fact that we created the Bermuda Ocean Prosperity Pr ogramme, which was a st akeholder group that includes all of our local stakeholders and internal stakeholders. There was …
The Speaker The Speaker No further questions? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, that was the only question for you on that matter this morning. Thank you for your participation. We move on to the next Statement, which is from the Minister of Health. Minister, MP Dunkley has questions for you on your Statement. MP, would you like to put …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, the enhancements that I spoke about in my Statement that have taken place heretofore with respect to the travel authoris ation have been a com bination of enhancements conducted by external contractors, who are assisting with respect to this process, as well as …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Can the Honourable Mini ster please inform this Honourable House the cost for these enhancements paid to outside consultants?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information in front of me. It is quite detailed insofar as the contract (as is a matter of public record) is with resQwest. However, I can endeavour to get that. Or another suggestion is that if written questions …
The Speaker The Speaker Member Dunkley, the response is bas ically twofold, meaning the information is qu ite exte nsive. And providing it in an oral format may not suffice because of the extent of the information. So it could be responded to at a later date via a written question if you would …
The Speaker The Speaker Noted. Minister, you noted the Member’s further r esponse? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I have noted his fu rther response. But there is a mechanism in which that could take place, which is, of course, as you rightly suggested as the Speaker of the House, through written …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on. I would also note that, yes, the mechanism for questions is written. But the comment from the Member was that the contract could be tabled like other communications that are tabled before the Chamber. I just want to clarify that. He was not asking for it as a …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, it would have to be tabled when we come back for the next sitting in September. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And that is why, Mr. Speaker, I will ask that it be done in two ways, for the Minister’s consideration. Because it cannot be that difficult just to table …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. No problem. We will address it in September. Do you have a supplementary? 1594 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: A second question, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Go ahead. QUESTION 2: TRAVEL AUTHORIS ATION PROCESS UPDATE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley : Can the Honourable Mini ster state what the budget is for the funding of resQwest or any outside contract that the Government is operating under?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, again you would note the content of today’s Ministerial Statement deals specifically with the update of the processes concer ning the travel authorisation. If the Honourable Member is seeking further details as it relates to the contract terms, the budget and so forth, …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. And, M ember, when you ask a question, be mindful that it should relate to content of the Stat ement itself and not the . . . your question is a valid question as to a budget, but it did not form part of the Statement that was given …
The Speaker The Speaker It is your third question. QUESTION 3: TRAVEL AUTHORIS ATION PROCESS UPDATE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: On page 6, t he Minister says, “the call centre has received numerous compl iments about . . .” the changes. Can the Minister please inform the Honourable House if the call centre for …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to be able to announce that we are receiving quite substa ntial compliments and commendations with respect to the new improvements that have been made to the travel authorisati on experience. The majority, regrettably, of the concerns that have been …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, supplementary because the Minister went all around to not answer the question. So supplementary question to the Honourable Minister, and I only speak for the people we work for, Mr. Speaker. Let me make that clear. But a suppl ementary for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I cannot get the video up, but can you hear me?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Go ahead. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Okay. Mr. Speaker, I can confirm that no complaints, save from this Honourable Member, have come directly to me. I am not saying that it is complaint -free, because obviously if you provide any type of service there will be people who may …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister of Health, those are the only questions for you this morning on your Statement. We will move on. The next Statement that has questions this morning . . . oh, Members. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I note that it is that time.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, before we move on to the next, I am just noting the time. We are now at the time that actually I am going to ask us to yield and ask the Premier or Deputy Premier to put the appropriate statement at this time in regard to the time …
The Speaker The Speaker I am forwarding the time [left on the] clock for the questions. We have 28 minutes and 21 seconds left on the timeclock for questions. Premier, would you like to put the motion right now? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Are there any objections? There are none. The House now stands adjourned and will return at 2:00 pm. Thank you, Members. Proceedings suspended at 12:36 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. Good afternoon, l istening audience. Members, it is 2:00 pm now and we will be proceeding today’s business. QUESTION PERIOD [Continuation thereof]
The Speaker The Speaker Before we broke for lunch period we were on the questions from the Statements this mor ning. Thus far, we had questions put to three of the Statements. We are now on the Statement that was presented by the Minister of Works. Minister of Works, you have questions this morning …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker. Which one are we doing first? Sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker We are doing the quango. QUESTION 1: QUANGO OPERATIONAL CHANGES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker, just a basic question. We know that this has been going on for some time now. This is clearly stated in the Statement here. What I was curious about . . . the question was, When we did the amalgamation of the BHC [Bermuda Housing …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The CEOs of these pos itions.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, the boards agreed to a marginal increase for both the acting CEO and CFO.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So on page 3, when the Minister says “The initial staffing of the new entity will see minimal duplication of roles, but note that reductions will occur over time . . . .” And then continues on about the benefits of this here. Can the Minister tell us an idea …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. H on. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, we have actually already seen some reduction in expenses. The former substantive CEO of BLDC left the company about two and a half years ago, so a portion of that salary went to the replacement but the majority of it would have stayed in the coffers of BLDC. …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker, we concur that this is a good move.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. No further questions? Okay. Opposition Whip, did you still wish to put questions?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have questi ons from the Opposition Whip. QUESTION 1: QUANGO OPERATIONAL CHANGES
Mr. Jarion Richardson Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker, and Honourable Minister, and listening public. My question, Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House whether he intends to table or publish the report or review referred to in his Minist erial Statement?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch What report are you referring to? I referred to two reports. The first was “UNTANGLING BERMUDA’S QUANGOS [—A review of Quangos in the Bermuda Government”] dated 2003. That is in the public domain. And I referred to the SAGE Commission Report of 2013 and that is a lso in the …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, may I clarify the question? The S peaker: Okay. Clarify, yes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, sir. Yes, my question related to page 1, the last paragraph, starting with “ Mr. Speaker, the scope of the review covered a wide range of topics . . . .” So I probably used the wrong word, but it would be then “the review.” Does the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch That is in reference to “UNTANGLING BERMUDA’S QUANGOS.” It follows on from the three items that were t he aim of the exercise and so I listed those three items and then I r eferred to “the scope of the review covered a wide range of topics covering the establishment …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson None, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. That concludes that Statement; however, Mi nister, your second Statement on the Quarry, you have questions as well. Opposition Whip, would you like to put questions? QUESTION 1: QUARRY DEPOT FEASIBILITY STUDY
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House when the r eports will be completed, that is, the report referred to on page 3, [the] third paragraph referred to?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, the RFP has just been issued and it lists a number of signif icant dates [when] things are due. I do not recall off the top of my head when that is due, but I would think it would be several months. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Honourable Minister inform this House whether he intends to circulate the report to this Honourable House either after or before the BIU [Bermuda Industrial Un ion] gets to see it?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, it will be after the BIU gets to see it. But certainly it will be t abled in the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson No, Mr. Speaker. Second question, please, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, second question. QUESTION 2: QUARRY DEPOT FEASIBILITY STUDY
Mr. Jarion Richardson Would the Honourable Mini ster please inform the Honourable House the cost of the consultant referred to on page 2, third paragraph, “hired . . . following the [sudden] departure of the pri ncipal mechanical engineer.”
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I don’t have that information at the top of my head, but I can get it and pr ovide it.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson No, supplementary, Mr. Speaker, third question.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question. Continue. QUESTION 3: QUARRY DEPOT FEASIBILITY STUDY
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Would the Honourable Minister clarify for this Honourable House the status of replacing the principal mechanical engineer referred to on page 2, third paragraph?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The status is that it is caught up in the bureaucracy of government. It is a source of significant frustration to me as the Minister that a number of posts in this Ministry cannot be substantively filled until there is a review of the job descriptions. In this particular case, …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson None, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Honourable Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister, another Member also has questions for you here. MP Cannonier, would you like to put your question to the Minister? QUESTION 1: QUARRY DEPOT FEASIBILITY STUDY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Minister for his candi dness thus far. On page 1, the Honourable Minister speaks of understanding, knowing that both sides of the aisle can attest to some of the challenges there. We certainly can. But what I can say …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, be mindful that your questions should be generated around the subject of the Statement that was given. And I am not sure whether your question really fits the subject. The subject was around the combining of the . . . not the combining, the inquiry whether to outsource the …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Let me restate the question then, Mr. Speaker, if it pleases . . . Considering with the review that is going on, having a consultant that is there hired to take a look at things, are they also considering selling off of some of 1598 15 July 2022 Official Hansard …
The Speaker The Speaker Good question. Minister, he framed the question in a way that you can respond now. How is that?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I was prepared to a nswer whichever way he asked it. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I am aware of Gencom’s interest in a possible purchase of the quarry and I have had one meeting [with them] since being the Minister. That was a casual conversation. They have gone away to do some research and [will] come back with a formal proposal. We will talk with …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary. With the possibili ty of privatisation, with it will all of the scope of work that takes place at the quarry still be maintained with the potential selling of the operations? For instance, asphalt. Will asphalt still fall under this or will that be sectioned off to go …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch That is what w ill form part of the review. Whether there is an option to cease doing some of the things at the quarry or add to them. As an example, one of the challenges that we are facing at the moment in terms of being able to provide …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. No further questions for you, Minister. Thank you for your participation.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We will now move on to the questions for the next Statement this afternoon, the second Statement by the Minister of Education. Minister of Education, your second Statement regarding the Bermuda College Amendment Act. The Opposition Whip would like to put a question to you. Opposition Whip. QUESTION 1: TABLING …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House of some of the circumstances tha t led to Bermuda College falling behind on its audits, specifically on page 2, second par-agraph where he states, “For reasons well known to Honourable Members, the college …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes. Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: That Statement stated that Honourable Members would well know because the Auditor General at that particular time refused to audit the Bermuda College statements until the lease b etween Bermuda College and Coco Reef was tabled in the House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you . . . second question, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Go ahead.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Actually, no question, Mr. Speaker. I’ll put it to a par liamentary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: No problem. Appreciate it. Thank you for your participation. Minister, that is the only question for you. Thank you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker We will move on to the next Statement that has questions this morning and that is for the Mi nister for Social Development and Seniors. MP Dunkley has questions for [the Minister]. MP, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: STATE OF GOVERNMENT GRANT SUPPORTED NURSING HOMES Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe the answer . . . I know the answer was actually in the Statement —
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, can I just ask you to get a little closer to your microphone? Your audio is a little low right now. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Are you able to hear me?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that is better. Hon. Tinee Furbert: I will turn up my volume a bit. Is that better?
The Speaker The Speaker Much better. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Okay. Good. The answer is actually in the Statement, Mr. Speaker, when we spoke to the nursing homes [they] actually expres sed their own interest in regard to the value that was needed. It was looked at based on the . . . also the …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Honourable Minister , why is it a fact that Matilda Smith Williams averages about [$]17,200 a year in funding per resident in that home whereas Lorraine Rest Home is at [$]48,900 per res ident in that home. This is a three- fold increase. What …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Member for that question. I would say that the numbers that the Member is sharing with the House are not accurate numbers. Anyone . . . not anyone, but to run a nursing home there are a variety of …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, the numbers that I gave are accurate numbers. The Honourable Minister might not support those numbers, but they are accurate numbers based on the information that the Minister gave. So, what we are trying to do is just find out what the reason …
The Speaker The Speaker Just for clarity, your question . . . you are indicating that the numbers that you are using are the numbers that came out of today’s Statement? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. 1600 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. T inee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, those numbers did not come out of my Statement. Those were numbers that were calculated by that Member. QUESTION 2: STATE OF GOVERNMENT GRANT SUPPORTED NURSING HOMES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, we must have an appreciation that each of these homes are private businesses that are responsible for their own financial affairs. I cannot share with this House, Mr. Speaker, whether or not the homes will be able to get out of their financial difficulties …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. New question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Final question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3: STATE OF GOVERNMENT GRANT SUPPORTED NURSING HOMES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Obviously, the One Bermuda Alliance su pports any initiative we can undertake to put our seniors in a better position. Does the Minister have any concerns that the cost for individu-als to be living in these …
The Speaker The Speaker Minist er. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you for that question, MP Dunkley. I know I mentioned in my Statement already the average or estimated cost to take care of a senior in our nursing homes is about $12,000 per person. And that was actually indicated from a long- term care …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, so the cost, as the Minister has said, is unsustainable. On page 6, the Honourable Minister said that one of the mitigation measures to reali se cost savings is to increas e the intake of client s. If the costs are unsustainable …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We, the Government, give substantially to the care of our seniors, particularly in our nursing and residential care homes. That amount is subsidised greatly through many mediums, and it includes war veter-ans, it includes financial assistance [and] it includes grants, and so …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have no further questions now.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, that is the end of the questions for your Statement this morning. We will now move on to the next Statement. The next Statement is that from the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister, you have questions on both of your Statements. We will do the first …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Honourable Minister please clarify where on page 3 of his Statement he said qualifying Bermuda House of Assembly investments are possible in one of nine areas: purchase of real estate; invest in the development and launch of new Bermuda businesses; purchasing Government bonds; …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, within in the Statement the $349 million is broken down in the following ways: Injection into an existing business, equated to $49.1 million; in jection into a new business was $209.1 million; real estate investment was $91.4 million.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Honourable Minister be able to confirm then that there are no investments in the purchase of Bermuda Government bonds, contributions to Bermuda’s Sinking Fund, contribution to Bermuda Trust Fund, donation to Bermuda Registered Charity, or number eight, invest in any other social or …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: It is confirmed, Mr. Speaker. [Timer chimes]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, that bell signifies the fact that we have used up all the allotted time for our ques-tions this morning. The other Statements that had questions will have to . . . we won’t get to today. However, I am mindful of the fact that it is possible that another …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Jason Wade I can defer to the Minister, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Wade, you had my attention first. You can go ahead and take your three minutes.
Mr. Jason Wade I appreciate that, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to take this o pportunity to congratulate MP Kim Swan on being given the sponsor’s exemption for this year’s PGA Tour Event. As an avid new golfer, I would say in the last five years, I have heard the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Jason Wade. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Scott. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Speake r: You have your three minutes. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you. I would like to be associated with congratulatory remarks for our fellow colleague, MP Kim Swan. But also I would like to have the House send a …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Former Speaker Stanley Lowe. He was an avid [fisherman] and actually he was the person who took me out on my first boat ride, leaving Jew’s Bay and going out into the Great Sound there and caught a couple of Sailor’s Choice an d …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Simmons -Wade, you have your three minutes.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, good afternoon everyone. I would like to send my congratulations out to Dr. Claudette Fleming who is retiring after 22 years of service with the Age Concern. Her legacy for the se niors in Bermuda, I can say it is nothing short of ama zing. She has offered additional …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Weeks, you have your three minutes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, I would like to start off my remarks by associating [myself] with the remarks concerning [MP] Kim S wan. Kim Swan has taught me the art of golf, so much so that I refer to him a lot of times as my …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Tyrrell, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you and good afternoon to you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, first of all, let me associate with the condolences for Mr. Robert Lowe. Mr. Lowe was actually a constituent of mine, one that I got to talk to quite often because he obviously knew a lot about politics fr om his family members, of course. Bermuda House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Tyrrell. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Adams?
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes.
Mr. Jache Adams Yes, I certainly do not plan on b eing that long, but Mr. Speaker, I certainly wish to be associated with my good colleague and cousin in congratulating him, [MP] Kim Swan, on his accomplishme nts and I certainly will do my best to see to it to be in …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Please associate me, Member. MP Foggo.
Mr. Jache Adams Sure. And certainly, you know, I have gotten to know the Wells family quite well and so I certainly want to wish and say a job well done and congratulate her on a well -deserved award. And Mr. Speaker, finally, I want to basically congratulate a very, very, very good …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, MP. Tha nk you for your contributions. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker. Another Hon. Member: Yes, I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Foggo.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your thr ee minutes.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member who just took his seat, or turned off his microphone—
The Speaker The Speaker He got you in front of the camera that time, eh?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes, he did. And you know, it is not usual for people to use expletives when they are in the House of Assembly. So we are going to forgive him this time because what he said was tantamount to that. [Laughter]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo No, I wanted to congratulate young Ms. Butterfield for a job well done. In fact, there were two outstanding candidates who put themselves forward for councilman in the elections in St. George’s and young Ms. Butterfield was victorious, and I have no doubt she will bring her A game to …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Minister Furbert, you have the floor. Hon. T inee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to also be added to the congrat ulatories to our colleague, Mr. Kim Swan, [MP] as well as to be associated with the comments from MP Ianthia Simmons -Wade to Dr. Claudette …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mi nister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Premier. You have your three minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I may have missed i t earlier so I am uncertain if it was done, and if it was then I would ask to be associated. But I would certainly ask …
Mrs. Renee Ming Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. [No audible response]
Mrs. Renee Ming Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker I was muted. My apologies. MP Ming, you have your three minutes.
Mrs. Renee Ming Thank you for saying you were muted, Mr. Speaker, because I was beginning to say This can’t be the Somerset to St. George’s stuff coming here
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. You don’t want to hear from us St. George’s folks after the 29 th but you will hear from us up until then. [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming First of all, Mr. Speaker, and the listening audience, I would like to be associated with Bermuda House of Assembly the comments for Ms. Vita Burgess [sic] . I am sure that she will truly be a mi ss. I know her daughter, Crystal, as well and I definitely have …
The Speaker The Speaker Ms. Smith. Ms. Vita Smith.
Mrs. Renee Ming —in my thoughts and prayers. I would also like to be associated with the comments for [MP] Kim Swan. Those of us who have been around Kim for some time know that golf is truly one of the things that he loves and so to be given this o pportunity …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. I appreciate your comments. Any other Member wish to make a contrib ution this afternoon? Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Campbell, you have your three minutes. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like congratulatory r emarks go out to Chloe Morton who is a Berkeley Inst itute student who has been awarded a bursary for a two-year International Baccalaureate programme in India. She will …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? No other Member? Before we move on, I would just like to add some words to some of the comments that were made already. I would like to associate myself first with …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. 1606 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly NOTICE OF MOTION FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are two Government Bills to be introduced this afternoon. The first is in the name of the Premier, Minister of Finance. Minister, Premier, would you like to introduce your matter? FIRST READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. And just to confirm that we are i n receipt of the necessary documentation from the Governor. Thank you. The next item is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister. FIRST READING BERMUDA COLLEGE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTION
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Now, Members and listening audience, it brings us to the Orders of the Day. The first item this afternoon is the second reading of the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 in the name of the Minister of Finance, Premier. Minister, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none; continue. BILL SECOND READING BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank yo u, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022. The purpose of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, generally speaking we support the legislation. I just have some comments that I would like to make, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Minister indicated that most of the adjustments reflected corrections to prev ious years and various updates. So I would just generally go through the legislation from a cursory perspective and, like the Premier did, he spoke about on page 2, the Class A …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other? There appears to be none. Premier. [No audible response.]
The Speaker The Speaker Premier? Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. E. David Burt: My apologies, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thank the Honourable Member for his questions and for his overall support of the legislation. The questions of which he asked is why are the fee corrections being made …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: My apologies, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, I think you need to pass us on to the next stage. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with that I move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 3:14 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman ] COMMITTEE ON BILL BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Author ity Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 . Premier Burt, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I would like to, if I may, move …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. Clause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends the Third Schedule to the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969, “Financial I nstitutions.” Claus e 2 amends the Third Schedule to the principal Act in relation to the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Premier. Are there any further speakers? Mr. Simons? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, thank you.
The Chairman Chairman There are no further speakers. Mr. Premier, do you want to move the next step? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 5 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 1 through 5 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 5 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The preamble is approved. Hon. E. David Bur t: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be report ed to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 was c onsidered …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 3:18 pm [Hon. Dennis P. L ister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 being reported to the House as prin ted? There are none. The Bill has been reported as printed. Thank you, Members. This now moves us on to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Premier. DRAFT ORDER CONTRIBUTORY PENSIONS (AMENDMENT OF B ENEFITS) ORDER 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the tabling of the Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Benefits) Order 2022 on July 1, 2022, was a reflection of this Government’s …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, we are facing challenges that are basically unprecedented around the world. In fact, most countries face the same challenges that we face: an ageing population and the ageing population outweighs the size of [t he popul ation …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Opposition Leader, just be mindful of his intervention. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, I recognise his intervention.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The reality is, in July of 2022, in May of 2022, in April of 2022 the inflation rate of this country went from 8 per cent to 22 per cent from the previous year. And so— Hon. Jason Hayward: Point of order, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, the Opposition Leader cannot make up an inflation rate. The Depar tment of Statistics produces the annual inflation rates month over month, for each month, year over year. The inflation rate is not ranging between 8 [per cent] …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: —and for the opportunity to speak. Mr. Speaker, it is a fact that 95 per cent of our groceries are imported from the US or the UK. And if they are imported from the UK then we will see the prices of our …
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have completed your comments? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I have, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish— Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: If you don’t mind, I thought I heard Minister Hayward attempting to do a point of order, but perhaps you didn’t hear it, during the comments of — Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: No, I missed it at the time. But the o pportunity …
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, MP Adams, you have the floor.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Is that MP Adams or MP Richardson? I’m sorry.
Mr. Jache Adams It is me, MP Adams.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Adams, you have the floor.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I said when this Government put forth legislation to eliminate the land taxes for nursing homes, I said that you do not have to be a senior or close to being a senior to care about how our seniors are being treated. You …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Honourable Member is unintentionally misleading the House. I was not around the Cabinet table at the time. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Noted. Be mindful of that, Member.
Mr. Jache Adams I am mindful of that. He was in the Government at the time. The people of Bermuda have not forgotten at all what this Government has done, and continues to do, on their behalf. Mr. Speaker, it is important then to note that we have not come with excuses. We …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? Is that a point of order? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your point of order. POINT OF ORD ER [Misleading] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I cannot allow this young Member to mislead the House. I spoke about food imports. I spoke about trading imports. I spoke about fuel imports. I spoke about all the imports which drive our economy. …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. 1616 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Member, be mindful of what the Member actually did . . . what his comments actually did say while you address your comments.
Mr. Jache Adams Understood, Mr. Speaker, but Mr. Speaker, let me say that the reported state of infl ation encompasses far more than just importation of any kind. So, Mr. Speaker, I then get back to the Premier’s comments and say that I also look forward to us as a Government addressing a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP . . . I heard two voices that time. [Cros stalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker, you have the floor. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I am so happy and I am sure the majority of Bermuda is so happy to know that the Progres sive Labour Party Government is going to institute a new system based on the ability to pay …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker, let me remind you. I know you were experiencing trouble earlier with your camera. If it is resolved, we can turn it back on. If you are still having trouble, I will just acknowledge that you are having trouble. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Are you still having trouble? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: It should be . . .
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, okay. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I forgot that time. So that is good news —
The Speaker The Speaker It looks like you still may have a problem, I see a red and blue tie you are wearing. Hon. Der rick V. Burgess, Sr.: No, this is the Berm uda Tourism tie, it has got no red in it. It is all light blue and dark blue. I believe …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, sir. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I am so happy to hear that because, based on this new sy stem, I think that this will translate to other systems that are in place being changed to this here. Mr. Speaker, I was happy to hear …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
Mrs. Wade. The Speaker Mrs. Simmons -Wade, you have the floor.
Mrs. Ianthi a Simmons -Wade I think Mr. Richardson was before me.
The Speaker The Speaker There’s no order. It’s who gets the Speaker’s attention first , and you jumped on first that time, loud and clear.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Ladies first. That’s not a problem.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I certainly applaud our Government for all it has done for our seniors. Unfortunately, we are going to be in a situation where 33 per cent of our population will be over the age of 65 by 2036. This Government has …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Mr. Richardson, are you still there?
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Mr. Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good afternoon to you, Mr. Speaker, my fellow colleagues and those in the listening audience. I want to start off with a slight segue which really refers to what MP Cole Simons talked about. Because I think it is important, as one of our colleagues says quite frequently, that we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Tyrrell, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you for recognising me, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, firstly, let me say thank you to the Minister of Finance and Premier for bringing this Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Benefits) Order. It is something that is certainly encouraged. And I applaud [the Premier] and his technical office …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Tyrrell. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker M inister Furbert, you have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, we are debating the Contributory Pe nsions (Amendment of Benefits) Order 2022, Mr. Speaker. And I would . . . for those of us in this room who are not within that category of what …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. L. Craig C annonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And good afternoon to colleagues and Bermuda. If we take a look at where our seniors currently are, it is pretty tough. And I would concur with just about every comment that has been made that the increase that is being given is vitally needed. Now, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Cannonier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP . . . MP . . . MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, good afternoon, Mr . Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, listening to the comments made by Honourable Member Cannonier, I just found I ha d to tune in. And I am very, very conscious of the comment that was made by the former Minister Bob Richards to our seniors at …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker. Unfort unately, the Honourable Member may be misleading the House unintentionally. I never said that this was electioneering. I said whether I believe it or not in a general statement to any of us whether we believe that to be the case or not. No one ever …
The Speaker The Speaker You can move forward now. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is why when that particular Member gets on his feet to speak you have to wonder where his mind -set is because in one breath he says this is good for the seniors, and …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The Honourable Member is misleading the House. I stated several times over and over and over that I supported this increas e. And I also stated to clarify that with different Governments, it is a priority as to where you put emphasis. Each Government decides to put its emphasis within …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I know you are capable enough to move on and not get caught up in the sidetracks. So, just move on and be mindful of what was actually said. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. 1624 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker. That is not what I said at all. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I actually agree with you. I am giving you a compliment actually. But if you want to correct me, go ahead.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That is not giving a compl iment.
The Speaker The Speaker Members. Members! Speak to the Chair. One of you speak at a time. You made your point of order. Continue on, Member. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, what I am saying, if I r emember correctly, is that we also had on …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. It is $47 million, not $44 million that were paid to Skyport.
The Speaker The Speaker Noted. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, thank you, Minister, I appreciate that. That is another $3 million. Yes, thank you very much. You see, Mr. Speaker, in spite of some very serious headwinds and challenges that this country has faced, and in spite of us having to deal …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, you have the floor. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, while it might be tempting to deal with some of the comments made by the Member who just spoke before me—
The Speaker The Speaker Don’t get sidetracked. Just go ahead and continue. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I will not get sidetracked.
The Speaker The Speaker Don’t get sidetracked. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr . Speaker, it is tempting but I will not get sidetracked because I thought they added little to the debate. And I have no intention here today to play party politics and go back and talk about what one did and what …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Dunkley . Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker . Another Hon. Member: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I hear two voices. Minister Hayward, your camera popped up as well. Would you like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes, certainly, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Go right ahead. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, if we looked at what the Government …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I do not think any Member of the Opposition has in any way discredited members of the Department of Statistics, Mr. Speaker. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker [INAUDIBLE ] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: They were not even raised. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Members . Members . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The figures can be wrong if— Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —it is done from a wrong aspect, Mr. Speaker. Let’s not get this into a personal affair. The S peaker: Members . Members, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? 1628 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank Minister Hayward for his very precise and eloquent delivery that he just made because he has actually taken away certainly at least half of what I [wanted] to allude …
The Speaker The Speaker Just a moment . [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Wait. Wait. Wait. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley : Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Wait. Wait. Wait. No, I am taking a point of order. Wait a minute. Minister, just remember that when we come to this House, Members . . . it is the process of Parli ament to scrutini se what is before us. So, when Members come and question, it is …
The Speaker The Speaker That is for all Members. That ain’t for you. That is for all Members. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker , I hear you and I note your c omments, but that is not where I was going. I was making reference to facts that I have wi tnessed in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Because what I would like to say . . . because Minister Hayward has covered . . . I do not need to say much more. I was compl ementing what he said by making reference to things I had wi tnessed. But I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Premier? [No audible response]
The Speaker The Speaker Premier? Hon. E. D avid Burt: Mr. Speaker. I will, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Okay . No other M ember seems to want to make a contribution. You can go ahead and wrap this up. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have had a lot of persons contributing to our first item of eight today , so I will …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. That is not what I said. The Ministers and the Premier have every right to question everything that comes across their desk. That is the intention. Let’s not get into some nefarious …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, let’s try and k eep to the points that need to be made to move us forward. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that , because he said to ques tion. Yes, we do, Mr. Speaker. But if we are questio ning and the numbers …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Point of order!
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. Point of order. Put your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading ; imputing improper motive]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The Premier, the Honour able Member, certainly is misleading the public and the House. No consultation from a consultant . . . Imput ing improper motives. We are simply questioning things. There are no ulterior motives. We could say [som ething] similar [abou t] him.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, let me remind you of a comment I made earlier in this debate . That the pr ocess . . . the real reason we come to Parliament is for the scrutiny of the matters set before us. That scrutiny naturally brings questions. And if we cannot exercise a …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? Hon. E. David Burt: I move that the draft O rder be approved—
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have it in front of you, Premier ? Hon. E. David Burt: —and that a suitable message be sent to Her Excellency the Gov ernor.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Members, are there any objections to that? No objections? [Crosstalk ]
The Speaker The Speaker The appropriate message will be sent to— [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker —the Governor. [Motion carried: The draft Order entitled Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Benefits) Order 2022 was approved.] [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, your microphone is still live. Members, that brings us to a conclusion of [Order] No. 2. We will now move on to [Order] No. 3 which is a second reading of the Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022. Again, in the name of the Minister of Finance, Premier …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue. BILL SECOND READING BANKS AND DEPOSIT COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the primary purpose of the Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act is to provide the Bermuda Monetary Authority, herein after referred to …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, in regard to regul atory treatment of retail and nonretail customers . . . Mr. Speaker, the Authority advised that the codes are i ntended to be proportionate to the nature of the customer and that initial implementation will primarily be focused …
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, I would like to begin where the Premier ended. He spoke about the charges, the credit card charges that the bank impl emented, and he said a client was charged $1,100 to $1,200 for transactions that were …
The Speaker The Speaker Restate your position, Member. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I would be happy to. The Pr emier said that we have not had a code of conduct which has been in place in the United States for over 12 years. Correct? And so, if the i ndustry is working with …
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? Mr. Famous, you cannot contribute yet.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, MP Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The other issue that I would like to speak to, as I said, generally, I acknowledge what the Premier is trying to do, the Minister of Finance, to provide some framework that will protect the consumer. …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E . David Burt: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Honour able Member is misleading the House. I think technically he should be discussing a clause [when we] are in Committee. But he said something in regard to polit ical interference. However, I think …
The Speaker The Speaker Mind the comment . . . mind the comment, be mindful. Don’t get into any clause matters that we should be dealing with in Committee. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Oh, okay. So, my point is we in the O pposition do not believe that the Minister should have any …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, my point of order is when a ruling is made where another Member could not speak to a point of order, and then you allowed a Member to speak to a point of order. Was your ruling that Members …
The Speaker The Speaker Wait. Let me be clear. You are not questioning my ruling, are you? Let’s be clear now. Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes, I am asking for clarity.
The Speaker The Speaker You are asking for clar ity on a ruling that I made in reference to which matter? Hon. Jason Hayward: A point of order that was raised that was not entertained and I was wondering why—
The Speaker The Speaker I think you need to walk away from that. That Member knows why I took that posit ion. If you want to speak to that Member, I think you [need to] speak to that Member. But do not be questioning my ruling. I stand by my ruling. My ruling was …
The Speaker The Speaker My ruling was correct. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, you provided for this House . . . and Members have a right to ask for clarity when —
The Speaker The Speaker That Member knows why he cannot participate and how he has to be able to participate. You and I [will] have this conversation offline. We are not going to have it on the air. Or you can speak to your Member. Give me a call offline and we will have …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order . POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is again misleading the House. There is no provision in any Act where the Bermuda Monetary Authority can prescribe anything without the Minister of Finance making regula tions. That is what it is! …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Member, as you speak, just be mindful on the point that the Premier has made in reference to that. Continue on. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I recognise that the Minister of Finance collaborates with the regulator, the BMA, when crafting legislation and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Deput y Premier, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for the opportunity to speak on this important Bill, the Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022. It is actually the product of considerable work done over a considerable amount of time. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Before I call on any other Member to make a contribution on this matter, I noticed that MP Famous is present now. Mr. Famous, I am just going to call on you to resolve an outstanding matter so that you will be able to participate in any …
Mr. Christopher Famous Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker, how are you doing?
The Speaker The Speaker I am fine, thank you. Good afternoon, sir.
Mr. Christopher Famous Can you hear me good?
The Speaker The Speaker I hear you clear and see you clear.
Mr. Christopher Famous Can you see me good?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes sir.
Mr. Christopher Famous Am I dressed appropriat ely?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes sir. MP’S APOLO GY FOR USING UNPARLIAMENTARY LANGUAGE IN THE HOUSE
Mr. Christopher Famous Okay. That’s what I wan ted to know. Mr. Speaker, I am a tradesman and som etimes when I am on the job I use colourful language. And sometimes the colourful language is to help the other tradesman do his job a little bit better. Som etimes we use a …
The Speaker The Speaker I don’t know if you wish to speak on this, but if —
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, I am going to speak but ot hers are going to speak before me, Mr. Speaker. But I do have one point of order . Can I use a point of order?
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order?
The Speaker The Speaker Well, no one is speaking right now. Let me get someone on the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Oh. I will save it up until I have my new maiden speech.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to contribute to the Bank and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022 at this time? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I want to first start by thanking the Honourable Premier , Minis ter of Finance for bringing this Bill forward. No doubt it is very over due, Mr. Speaker, very overd ue. Our people’s consumer financial protection is vital. Banking is …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker, would you like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker, you have the floor. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you so much. First of all, let me say that I want to thank the banks for the services that they provide to the general public, Mr. Speaker. But let me say, and I don’t say Bermuda House …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Whip.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will not be that long. This legislation is quite crucial because it fills in a missing piece of the puzzle that Bermuda has not had for some time, and that has been to our disa dvantage both internationally and locally. I do not want to …
Mr. Jarion Richardson But, Mr. Speaker, I think it is fair to say that no one is a fan of the banks at the moment in Bermuda. But with all that being said, what this code or what we are about to do is enable the Bermuda Monetary Authority [BMA] to create a …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, Honourable Member. You started off nice and clear. You are ge tting garbled in the volume, in the audio right now.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay. I am probably talking too fast. Let me go into the Opposition Leader’s O ffice, Mr. Speaker. The S peaker: Sure. [Pause]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, can you hear me?
The Speaker The Speaker Much better, much better.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, sir. So it is important that we put this in place. It is also important for our international partners to see that we have a lot more clarity around our legislative frameworks in Bermuda. So in all, it is quite a good piece. And of course, as I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Whip. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Adams?
The Speaker The Speaker MP Adams, you have the floor.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, from the onset I will say that I support this Bill and emphasise that I understand and appreciate ––similar to what the Opposition Leader said––I appreciate the direction the Government is going. And in my opinion, I believe it was Minister Furbert who said …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? There appear to be none. Premier .
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker, how are you doing?
The Speaker The Speaker I am good, MP.
Mr. Christopher Famous All right. I have my carving knife out.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Christophe r Famous There is a rhyme, Mr. Speaker, some people made it up a few months ago, a few years ago. They call it, Two -way, OBA. Two - way, OBA. Mr. Speaker, earlier today or I should not say “tod ay” so I do not reflect on a previous debate. But …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Keep it short.
Mr. Christopher Famous “Butterfield Reports First Quarter 2022 Results.” May 2, 2022. Financial highlights for the fir st quarter 2022: Net income of $44.4 million. Net income, Mr. Speaker. HSBC, Mr. Speaker, from that same paper that the Deputy Speaker does not like to buy: “HSBC Holdings plc has bounced back with after …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, MP Famous. Continue.
Mr. Chris topher Famous Mr. Speaker, the Oppos ition Leader went on to say about, Buyer beware! They should be discerning, they should read the fine lines! What the Opposition Leader failed to say is, people have to put their money in the bank. They do not have any choice, Mr. Speaker. They do …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good evening, Mr. Speaker. I would like to do so, please.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Anthony Richardson. You have the floor.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, sir. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I am actually smiling as we go through and I listen to this debate today. And I am smiling because recently what I have been doing is using this phrase, right, which is a real phrase. And that is that capitalism is about exploitation. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? 1650 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, MP De Silva, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think this date today is appr opriate.
The Speaker The Speaker Just a reminder for your video to be on. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: My video is on, Mr. Speaker. I see me.
The Speaker The Speaker We do not see you. We hear you nice and clear, though. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, wait a minute. Okay. I see my picture, Mr. Speaker. What am I doing?
The Speaker The Speaker Keep talking as you try and adjust it. Just keep talking. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. All right. Can you see me now, Mr. Speaker? I hit one of these other buttons in the area. No. [Pause] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I have mine . . …
The Speaker The Speaker We hear you loud and clear. Just keep talking. Keep talking. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. All right. I think this legislation is appropriate for the climate that we are currently living in, Mr. Speaker. I think some points have been made today, and some additional things need …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Hello, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, there were a few questions that were asked, and I will do my best to try to answer them as I close this out and take us into Committee. Let me start, I guess, on matters related to customer responsibility. There was …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: But I am going to read to you from one of my first contribut ions in this Honourable House back in 2013. It says: “Mr. Speaker, certain fees at local banks punish and compound distress for those in financial difficulty. One key issue …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Unfortunately, the Premier is misleading the House. Hon. E. David Burt: Unintentionally. Maybe I misunderstood, so please, go ahead. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: What I said was, you do not think that the banks would regulate themselves, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier, just keep in mind his clarification. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. But I think it is important to note that the i ndustry did not ask for a code of conduct. That was Bermuda House of Assembly something that came from the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 8:11 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman ] COMMITTEE ON BILL BANKS AND DEPOSIT COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022 . Premier and M inister of Finance, David Burt, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, clause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends section 2 of the Banks and Deposit Companies Act (the principal Act) to provide for the definition of “code,” which shall have the meaning given in …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers? Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry, Mr. Chairman; my fault. I was just having trouble turning the page.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: Clause 4 amends the principal Act by repealing and replacing section 39(1)(a) to r equire institutions to additionally provide any infor-mation the Authority may reasonably require, relating to the following: codes issued by the Authority and the implementation of such code; and safeguarding the interests …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Premier. Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Sounds like MP Richardson?
The Chairman Chairman Continue. You have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Would the Honourable Premier be able to clarify clause 4 amending section 39(1)(a), [the] power being given to the BMA to coll ect information as it r elates to compliance with the code of conduct, and a nother power being given to acquire information related to (and I …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, stand by. I do not know if there are any further questions on these clauses. [Pause] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, this particular clause is just making sure that the Bermuda Monetary Authority also has the power to gather information 1654 …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Chai rman. MP Richardson again.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. In relation to clause 3, [where] proposed section 8A(2) says [in part], “the Authority may issue a code of conduct for the pur pose of providing guidance as to the duties, requirements and standards to be complied with, and the procedures (whether as to identification, record- keeping, internal …
The Chairman Chairman MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The clause is cl ause 3 inserting section 8A, specifically section 8A(2), starting with, “Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (1).” [Pause] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, if I may, I am tr ying to actually follow what the Honourable Member is not necessar …
The Chairman Chairman MP Richardson, can you clarify, please?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. So the topics are identification, recordkeeping, internal reporting, and training or otherwise. Those are topics in regulatory compliance, Mr. Chai rman. And there are a number of other topics that go with this. So basically, the Authority will have the abi lity to generate …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Richardson. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank yo u very much. So just a few things. I appreciate the clarify now. Under procedures, certainly those things are done. It is just giving the example of various proc edures. But I think it is also important to know, from …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Any further speakers on clauses 1 through 4? There appear to be none. Premier, Minister. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 4 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 4 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 4 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move clause 5. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Continue. Hon. …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any speakers to clause 5?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Chairman, MP Richar dson.
The Chairman Chairman Continue, MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Undoubtedly as the Honourable Premier is aware, the Bermuda Monetary Authority applies pri nciples when enacting or undertaking certain superv isory activities. And he mentioned one of them, which is proportionality, Mr. Chairman, which basically means that we apply a suitable standard based on the nature, …
The Chairman Chairman Any other questions on clause 5? There appear to be none. Premier. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Chairman, I had anot her.
The Chairman Chairman Oh, I am sorry. Honourable Cole S imons, c lause 5? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. [The Explanatory Memorandum] says about clause 5 “. . . the Minister with the power to make regulations relating to any commercial or operational business fee . . . .” Is the Minister …
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions on clause 5? There appear to be none. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, in the time that the Honourable Members of the Opposition have asked this question, I have just gone to Bermuda Laws and typed in, “acting on the advice of the A uthority.” …
The Chairman Chairman Any further comments from clause 5? There appear to be none. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that clause 5 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 5 be approved. 1656 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 5 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will move clause 6 and clause 7 if I may.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may. Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. Clause 6 amends the principal Ac t in the Second Schedule to impose an obligation on [institutions] to observe the measures set out in any codes issued by the Authority, and further provides for the Authority to consider …
The Chairman Chairman Any comments on clauses 6 and 7?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chai rman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question is, When does the Premier anti cipate bringing the regulation into force? Thank you, Mr. Ch airman.
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions coming from clauses 6 and 7? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The answer to the question is, when the draft regulations are made it can come into effect.
The Chairman Chairman Any further questi ons from clauses 6 and 7? There appear to be none. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that clauses 6 and 7 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 6 and 7 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 6 and 7 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be r eported to the House as prin ted. [Motion carried: The Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022 was considered by …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. Hous e resumed at 8:28 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE BANKS AND DEPOSIT COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Banks and Deposit C ompanies Amendment Act 2022 being reported to the House as print-ed? There are none. The Bill has been reported as printed. Members, thank you for your participation. This now moves us on to …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: I move that the Bill entitled Domestic Partnership Amendment Act 2022 be now read a second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue. BILL SECOND READING DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speak er, I rise to intr oduce for the second reading the Bill entitled the D omestic Partnership Amendment Act 2022. The Bill seeks to (1) extend the transitional …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Would any other Member wish to speak to this matter?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker, MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The OBA supports this Bill. This is an i mportant issue both for our community and for equality of treatment. The Opposition raised the issue publicly this past spring, inviti ng the Deputy Premier to fix the gap in the existing law. The One Bermuda Alliance …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous, you have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker. What this Bill demonstrates is that this Government or any Government of Bermuda has the abi lity and flexibility to write our own laws in regard to how 1658 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly we deal with th ings in our country. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Member? Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I appreciate the support that has been shown for this amendment. And just a few closing comments on this part of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burge ss, Sr.: Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 8:39 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Domestic Partnership Amendment Act 2022 . Minister Roban, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wish to move clauses 1 through 3 of the …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: May I do so?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may. Continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Bill seeks to amend the transitional p eriod in section 54 of the Domestic Partnership Act 2018 (the principal Act) in light of the Privy Council judgment in Attorney General for Bermuda v. Ferguson and others (2022) …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you did. Hon. Walter H. Roban: So I will stop there.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers on clauses 1 through 3?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman, MP Pearman.
The Chairman Chairman MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, and thank you, Honourable Deputy Premier and Minister. I have two questions on clause 2 of the Bill. And I think that this is clear, but I just want to clarify. The position is that any same- sex marriages that occurred between the 5th of May 2017 through …
Mr. Scott Pearman Right. And I think you answered to this Honourable House with respect to that second point, that there were no marriages in that period. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Absolutely.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful. Thank you, Mini ster, and thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, thank you, MP Pearman. Any further speakers on the clauses 1 through 3? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will now just go through clause 4.
The Chairman Chairman First move clauses 1 through 3. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am sorry. I wish to move clauses 1 through 3, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I now wish to move clause 4, which deems the Bill to have come into effect on 14 March 2022, the date of the Privy Council judgment in Attorney General for Bermuda v. Ferguson and others . Thank you very …
The Chairman Chairman Any comments on clause 4, Members? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, I now wish that we could move clause 4, please. Hon. Walter H. Roban: It has been moved that clause 4 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Do you want to move the pr eamble? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I wish to move that the pr eamble be approved. 1660 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There are no objec tions. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Domestic Partnership Amen dment Act 2022 was considered by a Committee of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Mr. Pear man. Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 8:45 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Members, are there any objections to the Domestic Par tnership Amendment Act 2022 being reported to the House as printed?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. We would call for names. From the Opposition. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Call for names?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Mr. Somner. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Somner. Give me just a moment, Members. [Pause] The Assistant Clerk: We will be calling for the name vote. There is a two- minute warning to get online to vote. And cameras must be on.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Ms. Beale is goi ng to lead us through the vote. First thing would have been the two - minute warning to get Members in the House. We will run that two- minute now. Ms. Beale, the two minutes are running now. And then once the two minutes are …
The Speaker The Speaker For the listening audience, the matter that is before us right now is that when it came down to moving the Bill, there was a call for a vote. S o when you hear silence right now in this regard, there is no one really speaking because we have to …
The Speaker The Speaker Ms. Beale, you can start the names. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Excuse me, Mr. Speaker. I would like some clarity as to what we are exactly voting on.
The Speaker The Speaker The question that was put by me was, Were there any objections to the Bill being reported to the House as printed? And the Honourable Member called for names. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay. Oh. I was not aware.
The Speaker The Speaker So we called for the vote. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, just for further clarity, should there not be three Members who call for names? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, there should have been three. In the room where they put up acknowledgement I was watching because he was in the collective Opposition room. I just took it at that when they [spoke] up. I should have clarified it more, so thanks for pointing it out to me. But …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: I am not trying to question what you a re saying. But I am not entirely certain that this would be the correct interpretation. The question that there were objections to, of course, is to see if there is no objection. And …
The Speaker The Speaker To be clear. To be clear, Premier, you were actually . . . you put it in the context that we can accept for clarity. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker So the vote yes is that the matter would be reported to the House, because that is what the original question was. So if you are in favour of the Domestic Partnership Amendment Act 2022 being reported to the House without any amendm ents, r eported as printed, you say …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Jason Wade The Speaker Sounded like the yeses have it, but we will wait for the count . The Assistant Clerk: I have it with 26 [Ayes] to zero [Nays] .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Ms. Beale. Thank you, Members. The vote has been in favour of the Domestic Partnership Amendment Act 2022 being reported to the House as printed. And it has now been reported. [Motion passed by a majority on division: The Domestic Partnership Amendment Act 20 22 was reported to …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, this brings us to a close on that matter. We will now move on to the next item on the Order Paper , which is [Order] No. 5, the second reading of the Quarantine Amendment Act 2022, in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. Hon. Kim N. …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? 1662 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly There are no objections. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING QUARANTINE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, thank you. I would like to introduce again the second reading of the Bill entitled the …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. Let’s hear your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading and imputing improper motive] Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member is misleading, and I believe it is intentionally, this Honourable House to impute i mproper motive. I am wearing my mask currently …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Member, just be mindful in response. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. I thank the Minister for that clarification, Mr. Speaker. But, Mr. Speaker, legislation such as this at this stage in the pandemic certainly has minimal, if any, impact on the pandemic on our Island. As …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any ot her Member? No other Member? Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Government has indicated previously, and we will continue to reiterate the message, COVID - 19 is still …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Quarantine Amendment Act 2022. Minister Wilson, you have the floor. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move all three [sic] clauses, please.
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. C hairman. This Bill seeks to amend the Quarantine Act 2017 as it relates to the application of emergency orders to the armed forces. Clause 1 is the citation. Clause 2 amends section 15 of the Quarantine Act 2017, which provides …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Wilson. Are there any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minis ter. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Do the clauses first, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Chairman, I move that all three [sic] clauses be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the three [sic] clauses be approved. Are there any objections to that? 1664 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly There appear to be none. Approved. [Clauses 1 and 2 passed.] Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none; the preamble is approved. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be r eported to the House as printed. Thank you, Minister Wilson and MP Dunkley. [Motion carried: The Quarantine Amendment Bill 2022 …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 9:08 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE QUARANTINE AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are t here any objections to the Quarantine Amendment Act 2022 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported as printed. Thank you, Members, for your participation. That now moves us on to the next item on the Order Paper, [ Order …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Honourable Minister for her brief. So here we go again, Mr. Speaker. Here we go again. The Opposition has been very supportive of public health emergency extensions u p until very r ecently …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. Speak er. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I will accept the point of order from the Honourable Premier. The Speaker: Point of order . POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: I just have a question, because I hear the …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead, Member. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley : There are many r estrictions that are in place, and one of the restrictions and requirements is that we still have got to fill out the travel authorisation form. We still have to get a COVID -19 test to return to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, point of order . POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: And this is just in regard to germaneness . Mr. Speaker, the public health emergency is not tied to tra vel authorisation. So even if the public health emergency were to end, the travel authoris ations under the …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, make your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. He cannot say it's all in one big pie. The public health emergency su pports very specific items and the only restrictions in the country are stated …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: We would not have had the last piece of legislation and we would not have this piece of legislation, Mr. Speaker. That in itself is very clear, Mr. Speaker. And so I appreciate the Honour able Premier — Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, …
The Speaker The Speaker Let me just add some clarity here. The piece of legislation that is before us speaks to the extension. It is clear, plain and simple. The TA falls outside of that extension in that if we took the emergency extension off the table today and it ceased tonight, that doesn't …
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: But, Mr. Speaker, on May 20, I talked about the TA quite a bit, Mr. Speaker. And here is why I did then, and here is why I raised it briefly tonight, Mr. Speaker. Very clearly, the Minister in her brief …
The Speaker The Speaker Your last comment helps to clarify for you, Member, in that you said that the Minister spoke to border control. Yes, she spoke to border control, but even in the conv ersation on the border control it doesn ’t place TA under the extension. That’s what we want to clarify …
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member made a pointed . . . made it well out of his way to talk ab out people having to take COVID -19 tests to come here or return home. That could only be talking about the TA. The Speaker: Yes, he indicated that. …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order . POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. He cannot continue to say that there are restrictions and having people go back to normality in their lives when there are no r estrictions the country, save and …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, you had concluded. But b ecause the Premier has put his questions for your comments, I am going t o allow you to respond to his point. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, a question to the Honourable Minister and to the Honourable Premier when he has an opportunity …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, I am bringing out my carving knife again.
The Speaker The Speaker You have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, let me start off with the good news and then I will gravitate to something else. Mr. Speaker, I had the occasion of meeting a young lady who happens to be . . . was the Chief Medical Officer in the Turks and Caicos Islands, and is now …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, let me just remind everyone that this is an Order and is not a . . . which means that we will not go into Committee, which means Members can speak back and forth. Normally when we are in the House Members are only allowed to speak once, and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker, MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman. Yes.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm slightly disappointed by the last speaker. I listene d carefully to the Honourable Minister of Health, and I also listen carefully to the Shadow Minister. And to try to take some of the parlour games out of this, let me start by thanking the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order . POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. The emergency powers are clearly defined under our Constitution. This is not emergency powers, this is not suspension of the Constitution, this is the extension of a public health emergency …
Mr. Scott Pearman I'm rather shocked to hear the Premier of Bermuda say that. He is well aware . . . and if he isn't well aware, then he's badly informed that we switched emergency powers out of the Const itution and into the Public Health Act, section 107A. And the Honourable Minister …
Mr. Scott Pearman —to have a parallel . . . excuse me.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am very well i nformed, Honourable Member, because I was leading the Cabinet that changed that. But it is not correct to say “emergency powers.” This is a public health emergency. There is a difference. Emergency powers …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman The Premier can have his argument, Mr. Speaker, but he can't hav e his facts. Emergency powers are emergency powers, whether they are wielded under the Public Health Act, whether they are wielded under the Constitution, or whether they are wielded under the Quarantine Act. All of them are emergency …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. I am not going to accuse him of doing it in any other way. But people are free to make their own decisions, with the excep-tion of the spaces where …
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, I am glad that the Premier clarified, Mr. Speaker, because if you say that people are free to make their own decisions —except when I tell them they are not —then, with respect, they aren't free to make their own decisions. So I think the logic is flawed. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. B ermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House and taking this out of context. But let me help them again. There are no legal restrictions in the country outside of the mask requirement, which …
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, sometimes snappy sound bites don't hold up when tested against context. You did say there are no legal restrictions. I am glad for your clarification. Your clarification is correct. There are legal restrictions. So, respectfully, don't say there aren't when there are. It is misleading. Now, another thing— …
Mr. Scott Pearman —that the Premier said, before he tries to point -of-order me again. He said this —
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order .
Mr. Scott Pearman Oh, here we go. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, The Honourable Member is misleading the House and the public. I was very clear in the things of which I had submitted and listed the things which are inside of the public health emergency Order.
Mr. Scott Pearman Right. Well again, I am quoting verbatim. I am glad that he at least accepts that my quote was accurate. And then he wants to elaborate on it. And I accept the elaboration as accurate, Mr. Speaker. The next quote was this quote. “ We are no t going back. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? Minister.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker. 1674 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Probably more of a qualification . . . I am tr ying to gain a better understanding here. I think one of the concerns and arguments that some of us are hearing, whether it is …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Member is unintentionally misleading the House. Mask wearing is not required in schools. He men-tioned teachers, but mask wearing is not required in schools. It is optional.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, that is correct. I should not have said teachers. But I was just trying to go through the list that had been put out earlier. I did name some of those—C ustoms workers, bus drivers and healthcare workers and the likes. Thank you for the clarification, Education Minister. Again, …
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Christopher Famous Unless the former Oppos ition Leader could point out in the regulations where it is Government mandated that persons have to wear a mask at work, I am thinking that maybe he may not be quite correct.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I already qualified. I am talking about what this emergency measure is going to put into place with bus drivers and the likes —those people who are affected by this measure—that they have to wear a mask. So, I am not sure what the …
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of order, Mr. Speaker. B ermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Christopher Famous The Honourable Member said that people are going to be going to Cup Match and then going back to work. He never once qualified it by saying bus drivers or prison officers. He made a general statement.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I did qualify before I made that statement.
The Speaker The Speaker And then after it, you mentioned that too. So, it is clear now. Continue. It is clear now.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I did make it clear earlier when I mentioned it, and I was corrected that teachers do not fall under that. So, I said, “these same people are going to go back to work.” Those were my exact words: “these same people are going to go back to work .” …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Before I call on any other Member, let me just correct an error that I made earlier. Earlier I indicated that because we were [discussing] an Order, Members could speak repeatedly. That was an error. It was an error because the paperwork that I was looking at …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I think for the benefit of the public, the Government has transitio ned and shifted its stance as it pertains to COVID -19 and how we cope with it as a society. And as a result, we were seeing the majority of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member? There are none. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank Honourable Members for their participation in a very important debate as it relates to the Public Health (COVID -19) Emergency …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. DRAFT ORDE R TOURISM INVESTMENT (CAMBRIDGE BEACHES RESORT AND SPA) ORDER 2022 Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, the purpose of bringing this Tourism Investment (Cambridge Beac hes Resort and Spa) Order 2022 before this Honour able House is to enable the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. S peaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me first start off by thanking the Tourism Minister for bringing this to the table. Anything that is going to enhance or encourage our tourism product here in Bermuda is certainly vital and important. And some of these things have already been said in the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Crystal Caesar: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Caesar, you have the floor.
Ms. Crystal Caesar Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at this time I wanted to just acknowledge the concerted efforts of the new man-agement, new owners of the Cambridge Beaches. The Tourism Minister and I had occasion to meet with the management team. And I must say I was very i mpressed not …
Ms. Crystal Caesar Yes. But also because of the makeup, the demographics of the s taff that they have there. It is a largely Bermudianised property. They have done their best to incorporate and continue to honour some of the history that Cambridge Beaches has had over the years in terms of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Caesar. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this point? Any other Member? Minister.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I was trying to press the button here.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I got confused when the previous speaker talked about the best part. Was she talking about St. Regis? Because that is in the best part of the country.
The Speaker The Speaker She said the home of the Cup Match champions, where the Cup resides and will reside after the 29 th of July as well. Does that provide any more clarity for you?
Ms. Crystal Caesar You got it, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, are you vi olating the rules of being biased?
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. I am just stating facts. [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous Okay. So, Mr. Speaker, I just want to congratulate the Minister, the Member from constituency 21 who has been integral in forming and keeping relationships with hotel owners. Mr. Speaker, there is a thing called the litmus test. Well, those who have been propagating a rumour that tourism is dead …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member? Minister. [No audible response]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: I do not want to deprive an ybody who wants to speak, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker It seems like they have allowed it to proceed back to you. Hon. Vance Campbell: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, the Cambridge Beaches is a property that sits on 20 acres on a peninsula surrounded by the calm turquoise waters of the western end of the Island. It is a favourite destination of boaters. They have an excellent reputation when it comes to their …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I thought I put on my m icrophone on; sorry. Thank you, Members and Minister, for your participation. The appropriate documentation will be drafted . . . sorry. First of all, are there any objections? No objections. Thank you. [Motion carried: The Touri sm Investment (Cambridge Beaches Resort …
The Speaker The Speaker The appropriate documentation will be prepared and sent to the Governor. Thank you, Members and Minister, for your participation. That brings that matter to a close. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank my colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker We now move on to [Order] No. 8, consideration of the Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for 2022/23, in the name of the Premier and Minister of Finance. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDERS 23(3) AND 43(3) Hon. E. David Burt: T hank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue. [Motion carried: Standing Orders 23(3) and 43(3) suspended.] BILL SECOND READING SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2022/23 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. In accordance with Standing Orders 43(4) and 43(5), I move that the Supplementary Estimate for financial …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? Without any objections, we now will take this into Committee and the matter will be dealt with in Committee for each of the estimates that are listed. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 10:53 pm [Hon. Derrick …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for consideration of the Suppl ementary Estimate (No. 1) for financial year 2022/23 . Finance Minister, Premier Burt, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this Schedule identifies four items containing $5,812,089 …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I rise to provide a briefing on a supplementary budget increase for the Ministry of Finance, Head 10 . Mr. Chairman, earlier today . . . sorry?
The Chairman Chairman Head 11, is it not? You have Heads 11, 16 and 5 5. Hon. E. David Burt: You are 100 per cent corr ect. My sincere apologies, sir. Head 11.
The Chairman Chairman All right. 3HEAD [10]—MINISTRY OF FINANCE Hon. E. David Burt: Earlier today I highlighted to this Honourable House the strong, unwavering commi tment that this Government has to providing assi stance to persons at the lower end of the economic spectrum to assist them with the challenges of living in …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry, I was muted. Bermuda House of Assembly Any speakers for Head 11? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman The Honourable Cole Simons, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Chairm an. I would like to thank the Premier for his clarif ication. I have just two brief comments and more unless there are questions. Can the Minister provide de-tails on the number of …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further questions to Head 11? There appear to be none, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. I thank the Honourable Opposition Leader and Shadow Minister of Finance for his question. To a nswer his first question regarding the number of people, those …
The Chairman Chairman Are ther e any further questions? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, if I could add one further clarification.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: Each person will only be eligible to be paid one time. That is key. So there may be people who have two jobs and they pay payroll tax twice. Each person will only be able to be paid once. So someone would not be able …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Dunkley, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. Question for the Honourable Premier: How will it be verified, the rate of yearly compensation to an employee?
The Chairman Chairman Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It will be verified by the employer. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Premier. 1684 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Are there any further questions on Head 11? There appear to be …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to Head 11 being approved? There appear to be none. Approved. 4[Motion carried: Head [10] —Ministry of Finance, approved.] The Cha irman: Head 16 is the next one. HEAD 16 —MINISTRY OF EDUCATION Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Honourable Members. Today I rise …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Cole Simons, Cole Hedley Simons. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Minister addressed my concerns in regard to private schools. Can he consi der making an exception for home- schooled students? They may suffer the same economic challenges as the public school students. And we also have single …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers on Head 16?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Chairman, I have a quick question.
The Chairman Chairman Continue, MP Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I would like to ask the Minister if the parents are going to have to inventory or in any way verify any of the supplies that they get for the children. That is all, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Jackson. Are there any other speakers? Minister Rabain. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you for those questions because they are topical questions that I am sure the public is wondering [about] as well. In terms of, as I said …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Simons. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Minister, have you consi dered actually providing coupons issued by the retai lers? I am just giving an example. Gibbons Company for uniforms, Boyle and Gibbons for shoes and socks, or the Royal Gazette stationery store for books. I nstead of giving them …
The Chairman Chairman I am giving you l eeway, Mr. Simons. We are in Committee. Let me remind you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. So we are in Commi ttee, I can ask questions. 1686 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Mr. Simons, did you hear …
The Chairman Chairman Your questions should be based on what you have got in front of you. Continue, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I would say, actually, MP Simons, this is something that can be considered looking at. We originally thought about the coupons for uniforms, as I said in the brief. …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Thank you, Honourable Member Cole S imons.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Chairman. I have one other quick question.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Ms. Jackson. Go ahead.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I am wondering whether the Minister might —I may have missed it, but if the Minister would not mind just saying whether the application for the school supplies [is based on] financial need, is [that] a consider ation? How will you prioritise? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Financial …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Nothing for me. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman That is it? No further speakers? Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Head 16 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Head 16 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Head 16 —Ministry of Education, a pproved.]
The Chairman Chairman The next supplementary is Minister Hayward, Head 55. Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister Hayward. HEAD 55—MINISTRY OF ECONOMY AND LABOUR Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, Honourable Members, I rise tonight to provide a briefing on the supplementary budget increase for the Department of Financial Assistance, Head 55. I am going to speak to item number 31, Ministry of Economy and …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Jar ion Richardson Yes, please. Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman It is difficult hearing you, Brother Richardson, MP Richardson. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jarion Richardson: Yes. MP Richardson, please, sir.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Can you come closer? I cannot hear you. The others can hear you, but it is difficult for me to hear.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Can you hear me now, Mr. Chairman?
The Chairman Chairman That is much better, sir.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was hoping that the Honourable Minister would be able to give me a breakdown for how much the supplement will be per awardee under the Financial Assistance Programme. Because it looks like, by my math, it would be something in the range of $47 …
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions on Head 55? Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, you cannot do a simple division when it comes to food assistance for Financial Assistance. The food assistance rates are set on the Health Department nutrit ional rates. And so they are done by household composition size. So, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Any further questions on Head 55?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, MP Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, sir. Would the Honourable Minister clarify that those rates are as outlined in the annual Department of Financial Assistance Report? He tabled one a few months ago, and at the back is the government nutr ition rate. Is that the rate which he is speaking of right now? …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Please proceed, Mr. Richar dson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is in the Schedule of Allowable Expenses, but it does not give a rate in that in that particular box. It only says, costs at government nutrition rate. So this was me trying to work out the actual benefit to t he individual awardee. It …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Yes, please, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Chairman, how do I get those rates for the purposes of scrutinising Mr. Ha yward's noble work?
The Chairman Chairman Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: The Member can simpl y request them from the Minister. [Laughter] Hon. Jason Hayward: I mean, I can read off the rates now in Parliament, but I do not think that would be a useful exercise right now, if the Member just wants the rates …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Chairman, please.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Two points. For the purposes of the Hansard and formality, I request those rates and will email the Honourable Minister for those rates. And the second question is for clarity. The CPI [consumer price index] just got released saying food prices increased 5.4 per cent. The rates that the Honourable …
The Chairman Chairman Correct. Any further speakers to Head 55? There appear to be none. Minister, do you want to move that head? Hon. Jason Ha yward: Mr. Chairman, if there be no further questions I would like to move Head 55.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Head 55 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Head 55 —Financial Assistance, a pproved.]
The Chairman Chairman The next head up is the Energy D epartment —Head 66. And I think this is Minister Roban. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Chairman. May I continue?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Please do. 5HEAD [89] —DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY CAPITAL ACQUISITION Hon. Walter H. Roban: This is a presentation around Supplementary Estimate No. 1 for the Financial Year 2022/23 for the Department of Energy —Head 66, Capital Acquisition. Mr. Chairman, I rise to highlight the benefits of the capital allocation for …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers on the Head 66?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (MP Pearman.)
The Chairman Chairman MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Actually, Mr. Chairman, before I proceed just on the Head, I could not locate a Head 66 in the Budget Book. I found Energ y at Head 89, and I found the Capital —
The Chairman Chairman I am having difficulty hearing you, Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Sorry, Mr. Chairman. Is that be tter?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, it is.
Mr. Scott Pearman Great. I apologise. I was looking down. I could not find Head 66 in the Budget Book. I found the Department of Energy at Head 89, and I found Capital Acquisitions for Energy at business unit 76889 at page C -16. I only point this out, not to be a …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers on Head 66? Thank you, Mr. Pearman. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, can you see me on the video? I am sorry.
The Chairman Chairman It is okay if I do not see you. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am sorry because I just noticed that my video thing was not on, and I do not want —
The Chairman Chairman Yes. It is late. It is late. Hon. Walter H. Roban: So I apologise. I genuinely thought I was on, so I apologise, Mr. Chairman. The Chairm an: That is all right. That is all right. Hon. Walter H. Roban: We have done our raw calc ulation at this point …
The Chairman Chairman I did not get that. How many bulbs per household? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Potentially four to five bulbs per household.
The Chairman Chairman Four to five — Hon. Walter H. Roban: That is based on our having around 30,000 households because, you know, this is for every household in Bermuda to benefit from. Al though we will be focusing, as I stated in my brief, on the most needy households first as first …
The Chairman Chairman That would be five if it is 30,000. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. So four to five, estimate based on an acquisition of 150,000. Our most recent aspiration of procurement has the bulb somewhere around $1.50 per bulb at the moment. And certainly, Mr. Chairman and to the Ho nourable …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. It cannot be $1.50 per bulb. Hon. Walter H. Roban: That is our estimate at this point, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Well, you have got 150,000 bulbs. They should only be— Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairm an, 150,000 bulbs.
The Chairman Chairman Right, 150,000. I understand that you are spending $500,000. That is only $225,000 at $1.50. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, okay. Can I factor in there—
The Chairman Chairman You can get the information and get it to us. Hon. Walt er H. Roban: —the shipping that was fa ctored into there? Based on those whom we have spoken to so far, $1.50 per bulb. But you are factoring the shipping and the consignment and all those charges as …
The Chairman Chairman Hang on, hang on, hang on. Hang on, Minister. Minister, hang on a second. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Sorry.
The Chairman Chairman You have to fix that because shipping charges and all that are included in the price of a bulb. So definitely if you can get the correct information to— Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Yes. All that will be a part of our procurement.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. All right. Hon. Walter H . Roban: But I am just giving you the price that I have been given so far. So it is an est imate. The amount of money that has been provided for this exercise is $500,000. We will have to factor in the $500,000. …
The Chairman Chairman I am very aware of that. But the question was, How much is the bulb? And that is not the correct answer, as you know. Everything has to be factored into the cost of bringing that bulb. What is the landed charge and fi nal charge, too? That is what …
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. That is fine. Hon. Walter H. Roban: But I am giving him what I have been given so far by the agents I have spoken to, and I am being very transparent with this. I certai nly will be happy to come back with the clear, precise …
The Chairman Chairman Understood. We got you. We got you. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Any further questi ons for the Minister on Head 66?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And actually, you identified a few lines, so it does look like if it is a buck -50 per bulb with the shipping costs, if it is right, it would be over $1.50 shipping per bulb as w ell on your numbers. But can I just …
Mr. Scott Pearman And finally, when do you think we would be completing the ordering of the LED bulbs, roughly? You know, [is it] weeks, months? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I cannot speak to that. But this will be done as soon as reasonably possible, subject to the process that we are going …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Any further questions on Head 66 for Minister Roban? There appear to be none. Minister, do you want to move that? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. I wish to move Head 66.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Head 66 be approved. Are there any objections to that?
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, Mr. Chairman, solely the point that I raised earlier that I cannot find the Head 66, I just —
The Chairman Chairman Yes. I think the Minister has taken note of that and will do the necessary — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, if I may.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. CORRECTION TO HEADS BY HONOURABLE MINISTER OF FINANCE Hon. E. David Burt: Just looking here in Standing Orders, and apologies to the Deputy Premier, as this was certainly prepared by the Ministry of Finance. But the Honourable Shadow Attorney General is correct. This [Head 66] is supposed to be …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Minister. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: So Head 10, Head 16, Head 55 and Head 89 have been approved. Thank you for that, Mr. Premier. [Motion carried: Head 89, approved.]
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I now move that Supplementary Estimate (No. 1), complete with Head 10, Head 16, Head 55 and Head 89 for the financial year 2022/23 as printed be reported to the House.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, it will be reported to the house as printed. [Motion carried: Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for financial year 2022/23 was considered by a Commi ttee of the whole House and passed without amendment.]
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, are you available? Mr. Speaker. They are up on break. Mr. Lamb, can you find the Speaker for us, please? [Pause] House resumed at 11:44 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2022/23
The Speaker The Speaker I heard you, Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to the consi deration of Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for 2022/23 being reported to the House? There are none. Thank you. Members, before we go on to the third readings, I just want to go back. Earlier today we indicated the possible indulgence that I was …
Mr. Jario n Richardson Mr. Speaker (Opposition Whip), is that up on SharePoint?
The Speaker The Speaker It will go on SharePoint now.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. 1692 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS [Reinstated] US$500 MILLION SENIOR NOTES DUE 2032 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, thank you for allowing me to deliver this Ministerial Statement at this time. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Members, as I indicated, I will set aside 15 minutes for any questions that Members may want to put to the premier in reference to his Statement. Does any Member have a question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I am sorry I did not have more time to go through this. I think there is a lot in here and, as a consequence, we actually deserve some more attention and more time.
The Speaker The Speaker Normally when the Statements are gi ven, we would then do . . . well, we do not do too much time after. But I will give you a few minutes, yes. QUESTION PERIOD [Reinstated] QUESTION 1: US$500 MILLION SENIOR NOTES DUE 2032 Hon. N. H. Cole Simon s: I …
The Speaker The Speaker Did you have a specific question that you wanted the Minister to respond to? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: First of all, Why did the Mi nister of finance not refinance the debt? Because they knew that the maturities were due. Why did they not refinance the debt at the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can only speak for the time period on this particular matter [when] I took over the role of the Minister of Fi nance, so I know the Honourable Opposition Leader is referring to December. But …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, that is it.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Any comment from anyone else?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Speaker. (MP Pearman.)
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, yes. QUESTION 1: US$500 MILLION SENIOR NOTES DUE 2032
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Premier. I am just looking again at page 3. And I am just trying to wrap my head around . . . it is not about whether you get lower interest rates. I want to ask a question about the numbers at …
The Speaker The Speaker Thirty million [dollar s].
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Thirty million [dollars] . Another Hon. Member: Thirty million, [dollars], co rrect.
Mr. Scott Pearman My next question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go right ahead. Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: US$500 MILLION SENIOR NOTES DUE 2032
Mr. Scott Pearm an It may be my memory is faulty, but I thought that the previous Minister of Finance had come to this House at some point last year to discuss the forthcoming notes and talked about the Gover nment’s strategy for dealing with those. The impression given by the Statement to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Premier, thank you for that a nswer. I must confess that I am a little bit confused. At one point you said that there was not a pre- process. At the other you said that there was an announcement to the House back in November. Could you …
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Mr. Premier, thank you for that answer. When you are dealing with time periods, sometimes the expression moved up means bring forward and sometimes it means push back depending on the context. As context is often so important, could you explain whether you mean brought forward in time …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Mr. Premier, what would you give as the re ason for the failure to action the intended November 2022 refinance until July 2020 —wherever we are now? Hon. E. David Burt: I am not entirely certain I understand the question. November 2022 has not happened yet. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Sc ott Pearman Right. So when were you taking the decision about the November 2022 dates? When you say you decided to move it earlier, when was that decision taken, approximately? Last week? Months ago? Hon. E. David Burt: I cannot speak to when the advice was given to move it up from …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful for the clarification. Thank you, Premier. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member have a question for the Premier? There are none. That actually worked out. We have got one minute left in the 15 minutes. Thank you, Members, for your participation. Thank you, Premier, for the Statement. Members, we now resume with the regular Orders [of …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read for a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment (No. 2) Act 2022 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker You can do your next item. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022 be now read for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue. BILL THIRD READING BANKS AND DEPOSIT COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022 be now read for a third time by its title only and …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read for a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: the Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Bermuda House of Assembly The next is in the name of the Deputy Premier. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled the Domestic Partnership …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Deputy. BILL THIRD READING DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, move that the Bill now be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time now by its title only and has passed. Thank you. [Motion carried: the Domestic Partnership Amendment Act 2022 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker None of the others require a third reading. Hon. E. David Burt: There is one more, I think, the Quarantine Amendment Act.
The Speaker The Speaker I beg your pardon? Hon. E. David Burt: I think there is one more, the Quarantine Amendment Act.
The Speaker The Speaker The Quarantine Amendment Act. The Minister of Health, that is right. Minister of Health, your Quarantine Amendment. Minister of Health. [No audible response]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Health. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. S peaker, if the Minister of Health is not there, I am happy to do it for her.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill ent itled the Quarantine Amendment Act 2022 be now read the third time by its …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue. BILL THIRD READING QUARANTINE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Quarantine Amendment Act 2022 be now read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: the Quarantine Amendment Act 2022 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker That concludes the third readings. Thank you, Members. Thank you, Ministers, for your participation today.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. As a note, I do intend on speaking on the motion to adjourn. However, I do move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until the date of Friday, September the 16th, at 10:00 am.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that?
Mr. Dennis Lister III Yes. Good evening, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Lister.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Lister, you have your 20 minutes on the clock. 1698 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly CULTIVATING POSITIVE LIFE VALUES TO AVOID GANG ACTIVITY
Mr. Dennis Lister III Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a late hour, so I promise I will not be long. Mr. Speaker, it is not news to us, given the past recent months, that we have seen an uptick in anti-social activity, violent crimes, gang activity and acts such as t hat. So, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution t onight? Any other Member? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Education. MINISTRY OF EDUCATION ACCOMPLISHMENTS Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I go back to June 2017 when [INAUDIBLE ] led this country as the government. It was with that victory, the Progressive Labour Party pledged to put Bermudians first. And speaking as …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution this evening? Any other Member? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: MP Famous is ready to speak tonight. He might be taking his time to unmute his m icrophone.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. How are you doing?
The Speaker The Speaker I'm good. Thank you. PLP POLICIES HELPING BERMUDIANS
Mr. Christopher Famous All right. I won't be as long as the previous speaker. Mr. Speaker, I stated earlier I am grateful for those little walks of life that have pulled me aside and given me proper guidance and the proper to ols to use to deliver the job. Mr. Speaker, I am …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, last week on July the 7 th, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Boris Johnson, claimed he would resign after he saw all his compatriots jumping ship. He is still the prime minister. I didn’t know somebody could resign, and still be prime minister. But nevertheless . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I know that Minister Tinee is ready to go.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, if they want to speak, they need to come to it themselves. You do not have to announce them, Premier. Does any other Mem ber wish to speak? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert. MINISTRY OF SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SENIORS ACCOMPLISHMENTS Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know that the night is late, Mr. Speaker, but I want to . . . I think it's important, Mr. Speaker, that we as MPs have the opportunity to speak particularly to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister Furbert. Would any ot her Member like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, MP Adams, you have your 20 minutes. PLP GOVERNMENT’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS
Mr. Jache Adams Good evening, Mr. Speaker. I certainly wanted to start my contrib ution this evening on a lighter note and know that you and I share similarities in our support for our Cup Match team. You know very well how deeply rooted I am, and my family is up in the …
Mr. Jache Adams And so we certainly look to keep the Cup in the next few weeks. Mr. Speaker, I also want to acknowledge and congratulate the Minister who spoke before me, Mini ster Furbert, on her contribution this evening because she certainly articulated a lot of the work that is being done …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member? Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Minister Campbell. Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 20 minutes. MINISTRY OF TOURISM ACCOMPLISHMENTS Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we've been sitting here a long time today. So what I would like to do is take us on a trip through time. I will take a short trip to yesterday to …
The Speaker The Speaker They are short pieces? Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes, short pieces. The first says, 6“Tax-payer funded financial breaks for the $376 million Fairmont Southampton refurbishment have set a ‘bad precedent’ for the E lbow Beach Resort as its owners seek a new buyer, a shadow minister believes. . . . “We …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, that indicates that your 20 minutes are up, sir. Hon. Vance Campbell: Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I got th e point across.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your contribution. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution this evening? Any other Member ? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy [Premier]. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ACCOMPLISHMENTS 1710 15 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, sir, Mr. Speaker, I wish to make a contribution in this early hour of Saturday morning on the motion to adjourn. I want to thank you for …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, Deputy, that’s your 20 minutes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: So thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the opportunity and Happy Cup match to all of our citizens. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. E. David Burt: I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. D avid Burt: Unless anyone else wishes to speak.
The Speaker The Speaker You can go ahead. PLP GOVERNMENT’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, I thank all of the Honourable Members who have contributed to this motion to a djourn this evening. And thanks to all the Honourable Members who have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. It has been a long day. Many of you haven’t had these long sessions before. But that brings back memories of yesteryear for me. Not that I want to r epeat them too often, Premier. But thank you, Members, for your contributions today. And as we …
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