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House of Assembly Session 2021/2022 544 speeches

July 1, 2022

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Session Summary

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The Premier announced that government finances are performing better than expected, with the deficit projected at $95 million instead of the original $125 million estimate. He also introduced new legislation giving the Bermuda Monetary Authority power to regulate banking fees, warning banks to voluntarily reduce excessive charges or face government limits. Additionally, the government approved a 2.75% increase in social insurance pensions for about 10,000 seniors, which will be backdated and include lump sum payments.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jul 1, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 30
Speeches 544

Key Topics

Government financial performance update - deficit better than expected at $95 millionNew banking regulations to control excessive fees charged by local banksSocial insurance pension increases of 2.75% for seniors, backdated to August 2021Consumer Affairs annual report covering COVID-19 impacts on consumersLegal Aid Office operations and services for low-income Bermudians

Bills & Motions

Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022 - tabled for first reading
Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2022 - to be debated later in the session
Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Benefits) Order 2022 - tabled to implement the 2.75% pension increase
Tourism Investment (Cambridge Beaches Resort and Spa) Order 2022 - tabled
Public Health (COVID-19) Emergency Extension (No. 5) Order 2022 - tabled

Notable Moments

Premier warned local banks that if they don't voluntarily address "escalating fees" and charges "outside of global norms," the government will act to impose limits on banking fees
Government's fuel price freeze is saving families $23 every time they fill up their car tank, with prices 25% lower than they would be without intervention
The session began with a moment of silence for former MP Stuart Hayward who recently passed away

Debate Transcript

544 speeches from 30 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we will now start the Order today. The Minutes from the 17th of June have been circulated. Are the re any amendments required? No amendments. The minutes will be [confirmed as printed]. [Minutes of 17 June 2022 confirmed.] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR Th e Speaker: There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next is in the name of the Madam Attorney General. Madam Attorney General, would you like to present yours? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. CONSUMER AFFAIRS ANNUAL REPORT JANUARY 1 , 2019– DECEMBER 31, 2021 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker. I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Consumer Affairs Annual Report January 1st, 2019 to December 31st, 2021. LEGAL AID …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for doing both. The Minister of Tourism. Hon. Vance Campbell: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. TOURISM INVESTMENT (CAMBRIDGE BEACHES RESORT AND SPA) ORDER 2022 Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Tourism Inves tment (Cambridge Beaches Resort and Spa) Order 2022, as made by the Minister responsible …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Thank you. The next communication this morning is from the Minister of Health Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Good morning. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. PUBLIC HEALTH (COVID- 19) EMERGENCY EXTENSION (NO. 5) ORDER 2022 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Public Health (COVID -19) Emergency Extension (No. 5) Order 2022 proposed to be made …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Thank you, all Ministers, for the papers and communications this morning. We will now move on. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker Members and listening audience, we have 14 such statements this morning, and we are going to begin with the first by the Premier and Mini ster of Finance. Premier, would you like to present your Statement this morning? Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, one second before you start. Members, just as a bit of housekeeping, I a nnounced earlier to you before we started, but for those who may not have been on at t hat time, there is a problem with the SharePoint right now where you would normally find the …
The Speaker The Speaker Loud and clear. FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE UPDATE Hon. E. David Burt: All right, thank you very much. Mr. Speaker I rise (though I am seated in the Cabinet Chamber as we are not yet back in the House, but I Bermu da House of Assembly rise) to provide an update on …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Premier, the next Statement is also in your name. Would you like to do your second Statement now? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead, then. BANKS AND DEPOSIT COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased today to table the Bill entitled the Banks and Deposit Companies Amendment Act 2022 [the A mendment Act]. The primary purpose of the Amendment Act is to pr ovide the Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premi er. Premier, the third Statement is also in your name. Hon. E. David Burt: Absolutely, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for presenting that one at this time as well. Hon. E. David Burt: No problem, Mr. Speaker. The Government has been busy on deliver ing on its ele ction promises. I will deal with my third Statement, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. KEEPING OUR PROMISES: INCREASING PENSIONS TO KEEP UP WITH INFLATION Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, sir. Mr. Speaker, in this Government’s 2017 election platform this Government pledged to put our seniors first with initiatives such as annual cost of living increases for social insurance pensions at …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Attorney General. Madam Attorney General, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning again.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. CONSUMER AFFAIRS ANNUAL REPORT 2019– 2021 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to give this overview of the work of the D epartment of Consumer Affairs as detailed in the Consumer Affairs Annual Report 2019 through 2021 . Consumer Affairs, Mr. Speaker, is the designated …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorney General. The next Statement is also in your name. Would you like to present that at this time? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes, sir, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. 1478 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly LEGAL AID OFFICE ANNUAL REPORT 2020 –2022 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, I rise to update this Honourable House on the work of the L egal Aid Office. Mr. Speaker, as the Minister respons ible, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorney General. Minister of Works, you have the next Stat ement on the Order P aper this morning. Would you like to present it at this time?
Lt. Col Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, today I would like to bring you—
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, can we g et you just to i ncrease your volume? Your audio is a bit low here. Can you get a little closer to your microphone?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay?
Lt. Col Hon. David A. Burch Is that better?
The Speaker The Speaker Much better. Continue. RECOGNITION OF THE SKILLS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMME TRAINING
Lt. Col Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, today I would like to bring to the attention of this Honourable House the successful training of 35 Bermudians within the horticultural industry through the partnership be-tween the exceptional Skills Development Programme (SDP) run by Mr. Roger Parris and his team, the D epartment of Parks and Kingston …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Tourism. Minister, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, sir. TOURISM INVESTMENT (CAMBRIDGE BEACHES RESORT AND SPA) ORDER 2022 Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, I have a brief tabling Statement in reference to the Tourism Inves tment (Cambridge Beaches Resort and Spa) Order 2022 . Mr. Speaker, for growth and development, any economy requires investor confidence. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement is in the name of the Minister of Social Development and Seniors. Minister, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. LANDMARK LAUNCH OF A BERMUDA AND UNITED NATIONS ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I am delighted to inform this Honourable House and our Honourable Members and the public of the recent launch of a landmark partnership between the United Nations [UN] and the Government of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Stat ement is also yours, Minister. Would you like t o present that now? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue right ahead. LITIGATION GUARDIAN SERVICE UPDATE Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I rise to report to this Honourable House the continuing progress with regard to the Minist ry’s ongoing commitment to embedding a sound Litigation Guardian Service framework into Bermuda’s Court. As you may recall, the Litigation Guardian Service …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. 1484 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Minister, would you like to put your Statement this morning? Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. PROCESSING OF BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY CITIZEN (BOTC) BERMUDA PASSPORTS Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I rise before this Honourable House to provide an update on passport processing. Several weeks ago, the Bermuda public was advised of passport processing delays of 11 weeks. As the Minister responsible for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement is also in the Minister’s name. Minister, would you like to continue with your next Statement? UPDATE ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OFFICE FOR THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, this Statement is the establishment of a project …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister, would you like to present that Stat ement? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Just give me a second.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, Minister. PREPARATIONS FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF SIGNATURE LEARNING PROGRAMMES IN SEPTEMBER 2022 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning before this Honourable House to keep my honourable colleagues and the general public i nformed about the exciting work that continues in su pport …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. AIRPORT FIRE RESCUE SERVICES Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to provide an update on the Bermuda Fire Rescue Service Airport Operations Division. Mr. Speaker, the Bermuda Fire Rescue Service operates the Airport Rescue Firefighting Services , which provides aircraft rescue and firefighting services for …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, see if you can maybe get a little closer to your microphone. Your camera is fine, but you have just got a little audio feedback. You may have something on in there. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: No. Sounds better Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Still getting a little feedb ack. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Here, let me try something. Do you hear me now?
The Speaker The Speaker Still not hearing. We have got the feedback. [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We confirm, Mr. Speaker. It is di storted slightly.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. It i s distorted. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Shut the camera off and just see. It could be a bandwidth weakness. Let us hear you. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Can you hear me now?
The Speaker The Speaker It has still got the distortion, so you can turn the camer a back on. And we will see if it i mproves as you go along. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker You can continue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Should I start over?
The Speaker The Speaker No, you can go where you are. You can continue on. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Mr. Speaker, the Airport Rescue Firefighting Services is a Retained Government Service as part of the airport project agreement between Skyport and the Bermuda Airport Authority. The Bermuda Airport Authority are responsible for managing …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, let me pause you for a minute. Let me go to the next Statement. And then see if guys can work on your problem so we can hear you clearly. I will come back to you. How is that? And what I may suggest is that if you cannot …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Well, let us work with the Mini ster of Health for the time being, and then we will come back to you after her Statement. Thank you. Members, I appreciat e that indulgence. Minister of Health, can we call on you at this time? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go ahead, Minister of Health. COVID -19 VACCINATION PROGRAMME UPDATE Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr Speaker and Honourabl e Members, yesterday, June 30, our mass vaccination 1490 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly programme ended— a campaign that saw over 75 per cent of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Nice and clear; we hear you now. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Nice and clear now?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, continue. AIRPORT FIRE RESCUE SERVICES Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to provide an update on the Bermuda Fire Rescue Service Airport Operations Division. Is that better, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Continue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, the Bermuda Fire Rescue Service operates the Airport Rescue Fir efighting Services whi ch provides aircraft rescue and firefighting services for the L. F. Wade International Airport. I need some indulgence, Mr. Speaker. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, we were able to hear you; you’re fine. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Mr. Speaker, Skypor t is the L. F. Wade International Airport’s Aerodrome Certificate Holder. The certificate is issued by the Bermuda Civil Aviation A uthority to Skyport. The Airport Rescue Firefighting Services is a retained government …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. 1492 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Members, that brings us to a close this mor ning of Statements by Ministers and Junior Ministers. It was a long session. We now move on to the next item on the O rder Paper. REPORTS …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Members, as we look to start the Question Period, it is about seven minutes after twelve o’clock. We have some time before it’s 12:30, so we can go ahead and get started there. There are no written questions this morning, so the questions today will come from the Ministerial Statements …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you, Mr . Spea ker. And good morning to all colleagues and to Berm uda. I am not sure what page number this is . . . it is the page before the ending of the Statement, at the very bottom of the page where the Premier talks …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Page 5. I just want to point him to that area. Mr. Speaker, the question I have is, down at the bottom of the page he says “This price freeze of gasoline saves $23 on the average- sized car tank.” I am trying to understand . . . okay, it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I a m certainly happy to clarify for the Honourable Member who I am certain knows a little bit about gasoline pri ces.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I should declare my interest, yes, yes. Hon. E. David Burt: No problem. That was not a thing, I am just saying. So, Mr. Speaker, when we were calculating the savings that were due to members of the public, I certainly did reach out to, funny enough, one of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary to that. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I guess the Premier was all over the place there. I just want to make sure that the public understands exactly what they are getting back in savings on this tank. He spoke in terms of litres. And, as you know, Bermudians understand the lingo is in gallons. So I …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker, t his is not for me; this is for the public. Bermu da House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes, yes. When we try to bring information we are doing it not only for the knowledge of those in the House, but those in the listening audience.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier When you buy gas, you buy it in gallons.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: No problem, Mr. Speaker, I will respond to the question because I have the answers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The difference in the price of a gallon of gas oline is $2.18, Mr. Speaker. So if the Government did not take action, gasoline would be …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No, this is . . . I don't think the Premier is actually answering the quest ion that I asked. We know that the price of fuel went up by 0.4. That's where it was frozen. So are you saying that . . . that's not $2.00- and-something cents. The …
The Speaker The Speaker I am trying to get a clear point from your question. Your question is that at that stage the increase would have been a 0.4 increase. And you're trying to ask was the price was frozen at that 0.4 i ncrease?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier What was the increase three months ago that he froze? He’s saying its $2.00 -andsomething cents. It is not.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, can you decipher the question that's trying to be generated out of that? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I will do my best to answer all the information of the Honourable Oppos ition Leader is asking for is not readily in front of me. I prepared for some …
The Speaker The Speaker For the sake of clarity, so that we don't go back and forth. I am not going to get into the specific numbers. I think the clarity is that the price that is at the pump today is the same prices that was at the pump in February of this …
Mr. L. Crai g Cannonier So supplemental, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, put your supplemental.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier In understanding . . . so the . . . I want to be clear. The $23.00 that the Premier speaks of, that is per tank fill -up. Is that what he is saying?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Or is that for the year? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if I m ay.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. 1494 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: As I explained earlier, I was i nformed by retailers of cars in Bermuda that the average sized tank in Bermuda is 40 litres. In the difference of price that was frozen in February …
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplement ary, Opposition Leader. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Minister of Finance, despite the fact that you did not increase the retail price of gas since February, my question to you is this: Can you confirm that there was an incremental increase i n government revenue …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am going to do my best to be polite. But this is the second time that the Honourable Opposition Leader and Shadow Mini ster of Finance has made a statement that he purports to be factual. Last ti me it was with …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good morning, Mr. Speaker and colleagues. The Honourable Premier just said that this is relief that is costing the taxpayer money. So I assume he is referring to the cost increase that the fuel companies have requested and has been denied. So in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Let me just remind you of the dress code. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I have my tie—
The Speaker The Speaker Jacket, jacket, jacket. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Okay, it’s a little hot, but I’ll get my jacket.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am happy to answer the question. There has been no c ompensation. The cost to the taxpayer is because gasoline taxes in this country are very high. Do you know why they are high, Mr. Speaker? Because the former Government …
Mr. L. Cra ig Cannonier Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Who is asking for a supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I have a second question if there are no supplementaries . Bermu da House of Assembly The Speaker: Your second question or supplementary to that question? Okay, secon d question. QUESTION 2: FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE CE UPDATE
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So, Mr. Speaker, my second question then is based on what the Premier is saying, who is footing . . . because fuel [cost] is increasing. And we know that fuel [cost] is incr easing right now with every boatload that comes in every couple of months to the RUBiS …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I am happy to provide clarity. I thought I had answered that specific question twice already, but I will try again. The ability to freeze the cost at the pump is due to the fact of the extraordinary high gasoline taxes …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary, Mr . Speaker. Understanding what the Premier has said, I mean, if we look around the world Bermuda gas pri ces have been some of the highest around the world. Everyone else is just catching up to us, quite frankly. You know, we've been at $8 for Lord …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have the benefit of sittin g in the chair of the Ministry of Finance and I can say what the Honourable Member is saying is categorically false. But if he wishes to have a conversation with me on the specifics, as there …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker. We were not attacking we were seeking clarification. There is no attack. — Hon. E. David Burt: With re spect, Mr. Speaker —
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —the Premier just asked—
The Speaker The Speaker Members, just be mindful of the term inology that we use when people are exercising the process of Parliament which is to scrutinise matters. And if we are allowing it to be scrutinised is not seen to be on the offensive; it is seen to be doing what Parliament is …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Third question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Mr. Premier, there are other Members who also wish to put questions to you on this Statement. Based on the first Member who has asked questions and the amount of energy that i t generated, I assume that the other two Members when they put their ques-tions are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Are there any objections? There are none. Members, the House now stands adjourned until 2:00 pm. Proceedings suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [ Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. We are back in session after our break, and for the listening public , a quick recap. We started this morning with the normal order of business. We made it through the list of Statements this morning. We had 14- odd Statements that were given this morning …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Mr. Speaker, I am going to let my other colleagues ask their questions.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Premier, other Member s have questions for that Statement , [and one] is the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, would yo u like to put your question now? [ No audible response]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Maybe we should move on to MP Dunkley.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, well, MP Dunkley, you can put your question now , and if the Opposition Leader wis hes to put his afterwards, we will come back to him. MP Dunkley, you have the floor. QUESTION 1: FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE UPDATE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier . Hon. E. David Burt: Not to my knowledge. I am not entirely certain what is being asked. If the Member wants to be more specific, I might be able to answer that question. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I thought I was quite specific. I'll rephrase.
The Speaker The Speaker Just rephrase the question. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. In any of the meetings, discussions, emails or correspondence has the Premier or the Government of Bermuda made any commitments in regard to taxation and revenue from taxation to the fuel companies that has yet to be met? Hon. E. David …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Be rmuda House of Assembly Not to my knowledge. B ut if the Honourable Member has information that persons are saying that the Government has not done anything, I am happy for him to go ahead and share those …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Do you have a supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, I do . But for clarity, Mr. Speaker, I do no t have any knowledge. I am just asking the question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Put your second supplementary . . . your first supplementary. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Another question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You don’t have a supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Not on that one. No.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, well, put your question then. QUESTION 2: FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE UPDATE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't know if anyone else does, but not on that one. Mr. Speaker, in the Budget Statement the Government did promise that they would review tax ation and direct …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can say that what the Honourable Member . . . the basis of his question is categor ically false. I can run through the litany of relief measures of which this G overnment has done, Mr. Speaker . …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary ? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkl ey: Let me just provide some clarification. The OBA did start the change in the pa yroll tax structure, and I think the P remier is conveniently forgetting that . Let me be more specific then in this supplementary .
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. Hon. Micha el H. Dunkley: The Premier talks at great length about the tax relief at the pump for Bermudi-ans. When is it going to be codified and clarified by passing legislation in the House of Assembly? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I thank the Member …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary ? 1498 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker , because I think —
The Speaker The Speaker Another question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —once the Bill is tabled then we can have a full debate on it. QUESTION 3: FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE UPDATE Hon. Michael H. Dun kley: Yes, a third question , Mr. Speaker. Has the Honourable Premier been able to have a team in the Ministry …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. But I will remind the Honourable Member that insofar as my Statement, I will certainly share the details of the costing of the full package of which has been given. What I can say to the Honourable Member is …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary ? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTAR IES Hon. Michael H. Dun kley: Mr. Speaker, I thank the Honourable Premier for clarity on that in regard to the half that will go towards relief. So knowing that the full numbers are not available, what guideline is the Premier using to make sure that he sticks …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: The measuring stick that I have , Mr. Speaker , is to make sure that we are doing what we can to provide relief to the people of this country. I am confident that we are not going above that level , Honourable Member . …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, final supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: To the Honourable Premier, thanks for that answer. And I am sure everyone supports the relief. What preliminary numbers are you working with, Honourable Premier? You mentio ned those. So I am sure you can share those, and I would understand if they were change …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Member has concluded his three questions. Does the Opposition Leader . . . would you still like to put questions to the Premier on that Stat ement? [No audible response]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, [this is] the O pposition Whip. No, the Opposition Leader would not—
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. We will move on. Thank you, Premier. Bermu da House of Assembly However, Premier, your third Statement also has questions that Members would like to put to you . This comes from MP Cannonier. MP Cannonier , would you like to put your question regarding the Premier …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. Mr. Speaker. The Premier mentioned that this 2.75 per cent i ncrease fully covers the overall weight of inflation. So I guess my question then is, Does the Premier still i nsist that this 2.5 per cent that the G overnment has put out there as inflation . …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if I may . Inflation in this country is [calculated] by the consumer price i ndex [CPI] that the Department of Statistics has been collect ing in the same fashion since 1964 when it began. I do not know if the Honourable Member …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much. So considering, you know , in the past the Premier has very much gotten involved in detail with certain areas when it comes to finance. And based on the local economists and their public impression of where they believe the inflationary rate …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the benefit of experience over five years in this role has taught me to make sure that I let my Ministers handle their partic ular matters. The Minister of Economy and Labour is someone who has worked in the D epartment of …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you, Premier. The next Statement that has questions this morning is for the Minister of Tourism . Minister of Tourism , MP Cannonier has questions for you. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr . Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MP Cannonier, would you like to put your question?
Mr. L. Craig Ca nnonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to . . . sorry, I got so many papers in front of me, I am trying to get to the right page here.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. QUESTION 1: TOURISM INVESTMENT (CAMBRIDGE BEACHES RESORT AND SPA) ORDER 2022
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Here it is. I got it . On page two . . . and thank you, Mr. Speaker . And thank you also to our new Minister . I am glad to see that he had meetings at the hotel . That is really good to hear . On page …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, as per conversations and information provided by the developers, the owners, they indicated that they are looking to start these renovations in November of this year , and the targeted completion date is April of 2023.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. Mr. Speaker. No, that is all.
The Speaker The Speaker That’s all? Okay. Minister, there are no further questions for you. Thank you. The next Statement, Members, that has a question this morning is for the Minister of Social D evelopment and Seniors regarding the Statement on the UN d evelopment . Minister Furbert, MP . . . Is the …
Mr. Scott Pearman That's a question by me. Mr . Speaker , MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Pearman, do you have a question?
Mr. Scott Pearman I do, Mr. Speaker, th ank you.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. QUESTION 1: LANDMARK LAUNCH OF A BERMUDA AND UNITED NATIONS ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP
Mr. Scott Pear man Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister. Thank you for the S tatement about this very welcomed and exciting United Nations economic partnership. I know that MP Susan Jackson and Senator Robin Tucker from the OBA were both able to attend and hear about it , and it is …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you to the M ember for the question. There actually is not a breakdown yet , as far as a 50/ 50 split for these funds . We are going to be working on an assessment to see how we would best utilise those funds. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary ?
Mr. Scott Pearman No, no supplementary. Second question, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Second question, yes. Bermu da House of Assembly QUESTION 2: LANDMARK LAUNCH OF A BERMUDA AND UNITED NATIONS ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Thank you, Honourable Minister . On the fourth page of your S tatement, you deal with the unemployment rate and reveal the rather concerning statistic that youth unemployment rates increased significantly , jumping from 18.8 per cent in 2019 to a rather eye- watering 32.1 per cent in 2020. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, I think your microphone might be off. Hon. Tinee Furbert: I can . . . I can — Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP . . . [who] is that? Minister Hayward, were you trying to get my attention? Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes. While the question was . . . the figures pertained to —
The Speaker The Speaker One second, one second, Minister. Minister Furbert, you are yielding, allowing Minister Hayward to respond? Hon. Tinee Furbert: I am yielding to Minister Ha yward for clarification.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister Hayward, go ahead. Hon. Jason Hayward: I just want to clarify that the statistics produced in the Statement come from r eports from the Ministry of Economy and Labour. They are purely unemployed and do not feature the underemployed.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Minister . Supplemental, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman I am happy to continue to put t he question to Minister Hayward or Minister Furbert as they prefer. Do we know what the number would be , above 32.1 per cent i f we include underemployed?
The Speaker The Speaker Ministers , whichever. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Sure . I will again yield to Minister Hayward speaking to unemployed.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker , the unemplo yment number doesn't change if you factor in the underemployed rate. If the specific Member is asking for the portions of persons underemployed in that age group, that is public knowledge because it will be found in the Labour Force …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful for the clarification from the Minister for Economy and Labour . Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Minister F urbert. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker That’s it? No further questions?
Mr. Scott Pearman No further questions.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, thank you. Thank you, Members. Minister, that's the last . . . those are the only questions for that Statement. The next Statement that has questions this morning, Minister Hayward , is actually your second Statement regarding the Update on the Established Recovery [Plan] . The Opposition Whip has …
Mr. Jarion Richardson I would , yes. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon to the listening public and Honourable Minister . I am afraid, Mr. Speaker, I actually had a question on both the processing passports and the ER, the Economic Recovery Plan update. B ut I think the processing passports came first.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay , would you like to do that one first then? I had overlooked it and gone to the second. Yes. [Crosstalk] QUESTION 1: PROCESSING OF BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY CITIZEN (BOTC) BERMUDA PASSPORTS
Mr. Jarion Richardson Would the Honourable Mini ster be able to inform this Honourable House, or clarify for this Honourable House page 6 of his Statement 1502 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly . . . or, rather , throughout the S tatement he is referring to 11 weeks …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker , the recruitment process was commenced once we had the staff on board. Within the next couple of weeks we should see the immediate impact in terms of the turnaround times . But it's going to take us a while to get back to …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary ? SUPPLEMENTAR IES
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, please. Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister. As it relates to the Ministe r’s response for r ecruiting staff , what , if any , impact is he anticipating to the department ’s budget? Are we getting money from a different department for this hiring? Is it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, t he Statem ent indicated that the Ministry of Finance has approved supporting the hiring. We would have to get suppl ementary funding from other areas within the gover nment as the funds within the Department of Immigr ation are currently not …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, please, Mr. Speaker , supplementary .
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Does the Honourable Minister know from which cost centre or business unit the supplementary funding will come from ?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: At this point, we are unclear as to the exact location of where the source of the funds will be derived. The Sp eaker: Would you like to [ask] another question?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Second question, please,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: PROCESSING OF BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY CITIZEN (BOTC) BERMUDA PASSPORTS
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Woul d the Honourable Minister inform this Honourable House if the Department of Immigration has been advised why they will not receive any more emergency stock? That is the emergency stock that is used for travel documents for persons who have to travel in an emergency, but may …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: All immig ration officials from all of the Overseas T erritories have joint meetings with Her Majesty ’s Passport Office. In one of those meetings it was indicated that the UK Government will not be issuing any further emergency travel documents to Overseas Territorie s without …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, please, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTAR IES
Mr. Jarion Richardson Will this Government or the Honourable Minister inquire of the UK Government as to why the emergency stocks won't be replenished?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Be rmuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: We can certainly inquire why, but I don't think the answer as to the reason why gets us in any better place, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary ?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Jarion Richardson W hen the Minister receives the information as to why we are not going to be able to produce emergency documents for residents , Bermudians in emergency circumstances, will he share that information with the public ?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I will re -ask the office to get a firm reason as to why the UK Government has determined that they will not be issuing Overseas Territ ories with the emergency travel documents. Maybe I can also get the answer to why the UK G overnment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Third question?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Third question, please,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Continue. QUESTION 3: PROCESSING OF BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY CITIZEN (BOTC) BERMUDA PASSPORTS
Mr. Jarion Richardson In the Minister’s Statement on page three, in the first paragraph he said “With approximately two years of restrictive travel, the desire to get off ‘the rock’ is certainly understandable and necessary.” Would the Honourable Minister be able to inform this Honourable House if within the processing of these applications …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: M r. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: No Bermudian or personal individual who seeks to obtain a passport from the Bermuda Government has to justify why they desire that passport.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Sp eaker. Good afternoon. I have a supplementary question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MP Jackson. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. So, Mr. Speaker, in the beginning there was a high demand for passports b ecause people have been on the Island for so many years, really because of COVID -19. So my question is, The permanent structure of this department, or the expansion, does this mean that we have …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, there is not a higher number of residents who desire a passport. A large portion of the passports, of renewals, [are] of expired passports. And so it's not as though the res idents didn't have passports and now all of a sudden desire to …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Supplementary, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jarion Richardson So is there any way, or I should say, in the processing of these passports does the Department of Immigration document or record anyone who is leaving Bermuda to reside elsewhere? 1504 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That was your first supplementary on your third question. Do you have a second supplementary on your third question?
Mr. Jarion Richardson No, thank y ou, Mr. Speaker. The information was helpful.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. You also had questions for the Minister on his next Statement, Would you like to move to that one now? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I just have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Okay, MP Dunkley. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. [For] years under the OBA, and certainly u nder the PLP Government, there have been commi tments to try to get the processing of passports here in Bermuda. Did I hear the Honourable Minister correctly when he …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: To be clear, Mr. Speaker, what I have stated was there is a greater desire to have a better understanding as to why Overseas Territories cannot continue to print their own passports within their jurisdictions. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: In all the discussions we've had on printing passports, is the Government unable to get an answer from the UK on why we cannot print here, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, the [processing and printing of] passports wer e removed from Berm uda in 2016. Since then they would have had multiple conversations and there would have been letters from the UK Government indicating that we will . . . the change in their policy …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am baffled myself by the answer, and more confused. If we are trying to solve a problem, how can we solve a problem without knowing the reasons behind the problem, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Now, was the question just asking the information again? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker. This is an important topic. But how can we have passports printed in Bermuda again if the Government of Bermuda doesn't even understand why we can't print them here in the first place? You …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: That wasn’t a question, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It was a question, Mr. Speaker. But, clearly, the Honourable Minister is not in a position to give —
The Speaker The Speaker When I interceded just now, I was tr ying to make sure it was formulated correctly. The point that you are trying to raise was you were asking a question that . . . your previous question had asked [if] we know the reasons why. The Minister indicated that the …
The Speaker The Speaker If you have some insight . . . because I believe you were the Government when they took the right from Berm uda to be able to print passports. So maybe you can consult with the Minister. But it appears there is no further question. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I …
The Speaker The Speaker There appear to be no further questions. Opposition Whip, do you want to put a question to the further Statement , the last , the second Statement? W e've got a minute and a half left. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Would the Honourable Minister be able to i nform this Honourable House, as relates to page 3 of his Statement where he said there is a full business case being made for the rehabilitation of Tynes Bay infrastructure. My question is, Haven’t we already committed funds …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, before I answer that question, I just want to clarify that the reasons why the UK Government initially told us that they were removing passport printing from Overseas Territories was for security reasons. Now, we can delve into what those security reasons are, but …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. That bell just signifies the 60 minutes that was allotted for the Question Period this morning. So we have completed the Question Period. I thank all Members for their partic ipation and we will now move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY S PEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to make a contribution under this section this afternoon? I was about to say this morning but is now this afternoon. Would any Member wish to make a contribution this afternoon? No Member? Okay, we will move on. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker. Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Education. You have your three minutes, Minister. [Crosstalk] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I am having some issues with my camera. Is that fine with you, Mr. S peaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Keep talking. If you can get it going, we will get to see you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay, Mr. Speaker, but I will be brief. Mr. Speaker, I would like the House . . . and I will take it that all Members will join me in congratulating …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, Mr. S peaker.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I think Minister Weeks . . . I know you've been trying to get in here before. You have your three minutes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I could yield to the Premier. I think the Premier spoke. Hon. E. Dav id Burt: You are so kind, Minister. [Laughter] Hon. E. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, he yielded. Go ahead, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I may not have heard it . . . if I did [not] I'd certainly like to be associated with it. I am not certain if the Minister of Education went first, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Weeks, you have your three minutes. Bermu da House of Assembly Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker I would like to start off by being associated with the remarks for Mr. Randolph Ha yward. I heard the Premier say that he was a longstanding member …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The clock has just going on you. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: All right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank yo u for your contribution. All right. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to associate myself with the comments made in regard Lady Olga Scott. She was truly a lady of the people of this country. Her invaluable services to our young teens with Teen Services . . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Would any other Member . . . Colonel Burch, are you t rying to get my attention? I see your camera is on there. 1508 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: I am, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Colonel, you have your three minutes.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Are you hearing me, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker I heard you that time.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Oh, okay. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the congratulations to the Berkeley [Institute] and CedarBridge graduates. I would also like to note that in the case of CedarBridge, they graduated 76 male students and 60 female students. I think that's proba-bly the first time in a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? [Crosstalk]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader. MP Cannonier, you have your three minutes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I won’t be long. I first want to [give] condolences and share in with the condolences [for] Mr. Stuart Hayward. He certainly, as an Independent, set the way forward for Independents in a system that we have where it is very difficult for an Independent …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Cannonier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Anthony Richard son Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Anthony Richardson I will defer to Minister Furbert. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert, were you trying to get in? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, thank you. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I also want to be associated with the House in regard to condolences for the former First Lady, Olga Scott. When I last spoke with Mrs. Scott, we were ha ving a meeting in regard to Teen Services …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Would anyone else like to make a contribution at this time? MP Richardson, would you like your three minutes now?
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good afternoon to you, Mr. Speaker, and to those in the listening audience. I want to join everyone else in offering congratulations. I am mindful, though, that it is for school leavers and graduates. I'm always told, for example, that you don't graduate from primary school. You have a school …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Richardson. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? [Crosstalk]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker. I would like to say a few words.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I hear [someone] coming from the Opposition. Is that MP Jackson?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, that’s me. Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, I would just like to associate myself and send my deepest sympathy for the families of Olga Scott as well as Stuart Ha yward. And I bring both together at the same time because these are all family members. We are cousins by either marriage, for Lady Scott, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Jackson. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, Mr. Speaker. Ianthia Simmons -Wade.
The Speaker The Speaker Ianthia Simmons -Wade, you have the floor.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, good afternoon to the list ening audience. I would like to associate myself with the condolences for Olga Scott who also is a relative by marriage. I have actually known Mrs. Scott for probably over 50 years in many different capacities. And the first capacity was as a member …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution?
Mrs. Renee Ming Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Sp eaker: MP Ming.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes.
Mrs. Renee Ming Surely. Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would like to be associated with the comments for Mrs. Olga Scott. [She was] truly a gem, and one that will be missed. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to give a congratulatory note to the Progressive Labour Party C1 branch for hosting …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Is there another Member who wishes to make a contribution? Any other Member? Any other Member? No other Member. Members, we thank you for your contributions for the congratulator y and obituary speeches. I would just like to make a comment or two before we close it …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are t hree Government Bills to be introduced today. The first two are in the name of the Premier, Minister of Finance. Premier. FIRST READING BANKS AND DEPOSIT COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would like to table your second one? FIRST READING BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister of Health, would you like to introduce yours? FIRST READING QUARANTINE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, thank you. Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. There are no other Bills to be done. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS The Sp eaker: There are none. Notices of Motions, there are none. Members and the listening audience that now moves us to the business of the day. And of the four items that are listed, there are …
The Speaker The Speaker Oh! Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: My apology. I had some technical difficulties.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, let us just seek your indulgence. The Deputy S peaker had indicated that he was going to try and have a motion ready for today. I didn’t realise you got it together so quickly, Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, sir. 1512 1 July 2022 Official …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, would you like to go ahead and put your motion? NOTICE OF MOTION MOTION TO TAKE NOTE OF MEASURES BEING IMPLEMENTED BY THE COST OF LIVING COMMISSION Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me just put my camera on. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And that will be included on the Order Paper for the next sittings. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker As I was saying, we have four items on the Order Paper of business today [and there are] i ndications that three of the four will be done. The first is the second reading of the Bermuda Monetary Author ity Amendment Act 2022 in the name of the Premier and …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Premier. BILL SECOND READING BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the purpose of the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2022 is to amend the principal objects to the Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Whip, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I mirror the Premier ’s comments in thanking ev eryone who has worked towards bringing this amendment to the floor of the House. It is something that Bermuda should have done some time ago, to be frank. But I am very glad to see that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Whip. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr . Speaker. As my colleague indicated earlier, the question is , Why now? B ecause it's way overdue. Mr. Speaker, I've been preparing for this debate. I did some research and I see a number of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Any other M ember? There are none. Premier, would you like to wrap up this one before we go to C ommittee? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I will do my …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. Are there any objections to the Bill being committed? There are none. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 3:47 pm [ Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman ] COMMITTEE ON BILL BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Author ity Amendment Act 2022 . Premier, Finance Minister, David Burt, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you so much, Mr. Chai rman. Mr. Chairman, …
The Chairman Chairman You may certainly move them all. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, clause 1 of the Bill provides a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends section 3 of the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969, Principal objects to the Authority. Clause 2 amends section …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Premier. Are there any further speakers? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman thank you, Honourable Member Cole Simons, Opposition Leader.
Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you, very much. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the clauses 1 and 2 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 and 2 be approved. Are there any objections to that? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: There are no objections.
The Chairman Chairman None. Approved. Thank you, Mr. Simons. [ Motion carried: Clauses 1 and 2 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Any objections to that? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No.
The Chairman Chairman No objections. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be r eported to the House as printed. [ Motion carried: The Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2022 was considered by a …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 3:49 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 202 2
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy [Speaker ]. Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Author ity Amendment Act 2022 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported. Thank you, Members. That now moves us on to the next item on …
The Chairman Chairman Madam Attorney General, would you like to present your matter at this time? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes, Mr. Speaker. if you would indulge me for one second. I am trying to pull up my notes, which seems to have defeated me.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. We will give you a moment. Technology is a great tool when it works with us. Right? W hen it works against us, it is another matter. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Criminal Code Amendment Act 2022 …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to the Bill being read a second time? There are none. Continue. BILL SECOND READING CRIMINAL CODE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, the Bill entitled the Criminal Code Amendment Act 2022 seeks to repeal the temporary or sunset clause prov isions in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorney General. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, MP Dunkley . You have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. The Opposition certainly is widely supportive of this Bill. And while we didn't agree with everything that was in the brief, we certainly are supportive of this Bill as another tool in our …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Good afternoon. Thank you, MP Dunkley. MP Simmons, would you like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Simmons, you have the floor.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you. First of all, I do appreciate the tone that the debate has taken, and I have to commend the Hon-ourable Attorney General for bringing forward this legislation. I think that most of us, all of us, feel the need to see this implemented. But as you look around …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Simmons. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Weeks? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. Thank y ou, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, sir. You have the floor. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. I would like to start off by commending the Attorney General for bringing this, and I very much understand it and I agree with it. But you know we have to understand, Mr. Speaker, also that the Criminal Code …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, sir. Yes, MP. Yes, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Oh, you are there. Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Minister. Go ahead. I'm here. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, I can see you. I can see you.
The Speaker The Speaker I’m just trying to resolve an issue, but go ahead. I caught every word that you had. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. All right, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the spectrum that I explained is like a ch ild coming up in a household. One end of the spectrum is the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have the floor, sir.
Mr. Wayne Caines Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I echo the sentiments of the Minister of N ational Security who just spoke, and previously before him, MP Jamahl Simmons. Like both MPs, it was a shock and a horror to learn this morning of another gun-related i ncident which has led to the death …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker. MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, Opposition Whip. You have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what can I say that has not already been said, and hasn't already been said by so many of us in Bermuda over the last 20 years? At this point, Mr. Speaker, I can start by saying that my proudest years were spent in …
The Speaker The Speaker MP, just one moment. You were coming in nice and clear and now w e are getting a little distortion. I don’t know if you adjusted something that time. But you were clearer initially.
Mr. Jarion Richardson I was probably talking over to the side. Can you hear me now, Mr. Speaker? I can speak up.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Oka y. Much better.
Mr. Jarion Richardson This kid went off to school. And I can only imagine that this was not the best school day that this student had ever had. I can only imagine what they carried with them. So, Mr. Speaker, this legislation is part of a lot of things that we have to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Whip. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Anyone? No? Minister. Bermu da House of Assembly Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I sincerely appreciate the contr ibutions of Members. It is clear that we are all on …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you Attorney General. Any objections? There are none. Deputy Speaker. House in Committee at 5:01 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COM MITTEE ON BILL CRIMINAL CODE AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Members, we are now in Commi ttee of the whole House for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Criminal Code Amendment Act 2022 . Our Attorney General, Minister Kathy Si mmons, you have the floor. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you Mr. Chai rman. …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you. Clause 1 provides the citation of the Bill. Clause 2 repeals section 4 of the Criminal Code Amendment Act 2012 [the “2012 Amendment Act”]. The effect of repealing section 4 (the so- called “sunset clause”), is to remove the power of the Mini …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mi nister Attorney General. Are there any further speakers? 1530 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Susan E. Jackson: Mr. Chairman, I have a question.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Can you come closer, because I have difficulty hearing you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Chairman. I have a question.
The Chairman Chairman That's not much better at all. It's a little difficult.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I have a question, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Member.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Yes, my question is . . . I am just curious whether these par ticular sections of the Criminal Code in any way address any kind of juvenile. And I don't mean to use the word “delinquency” in a bad way, but certainly I would suspect that there …
The Chairman Chairman Member, you have t o speak to the clauses because I am reading these clauses here and none of that . . . none of that is in here. I am not sa ying they are not important, but they are not in here. You need to, you know, speak …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Oh well, I'm just in general, the—
The Chairman Chairman Well, this is not the general debate. That, you could have done . . . you have to be specific when you come into Committee.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Hold on. The language of the clause around instructing a person to participate in unlawful gang activity, i nstructing a person —
The Chairman Chairman What clause is that?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Well, it seems to be the general language of all three of those clauses.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, but I don't see it. I don’t see it there. You know, you can't fish in Committee. You have to be specific. And I am not trying to stop you at all. I am just trying to go by the rules. Ms. Susan E. Jackson: All right, Mr. Chairman. …
The Chairman Chairman Any further comments on clauses 1, 2, or 3? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, and thank you for the question from the Member. The answer is yes. It addresses juvenile offender s.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: And if there are no further questions, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Do the clauses first. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I'm sorry. I move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1, 2 and 3 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The preamble is approved. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Thank you, Attorney General Minister Si mmons. Mr. Speaker. [Motion carried: The Criminal Code Amendment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Members, are there any objections to the Criminal Code Amendment Act 2022 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. That brings that matter to a close for this moment, and we'll now move on to the next item on the Order Paper which …
The Speaker The Speaker Loud and clear. Mr . Scott Pearman: Great. Pursuant to Standing Order 24, I move that the Bill now under the consideration of the House be amended, pursuant to the amendment in writing, de-livered to the Clerk to remove any reference in clause 2 to the Bermuda Constitution.
The Speaker The Speaker You can note that you are going to make the amendment at that time and we will actually make the amendment when we get into Committee. Mr . Scott Pearman: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. So it has been duly noted that when we get to the Committee stage, there is an amendment that the Member would like to bring to address one of the clauses. Mr . Scott Pearman: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the Bill entitled the Equality Act 2022 …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Shadow Minister. OPPOSITION BILL SECOND READING EQUALITY ACT 2022 Mr . Scott Pearman: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I hinted at the beginning, there will be an amendment to the Equality Act that is currently on the SharePoint and on …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, just one second. I think you may be suffering from the same thing that the Opposition Whip was. If you are looking up at us, you are clear. When you sort of turn from us, we get a little distortion.
Mr. Scott Pearman I will try and sit up and address straight up. Is that better, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, much better. Mr . Scott Pearman: Excellent. I am afraid that we in the Opposition have a limited budget on these things. But here we are. As I said, Mr. Speaker, in case I wasn’t heard, this Bill today is but a small step towards a better Bermuda. Yet …
Mr. Scott Pearman —based on the size of the rel evant employer.
The Speaker The Speaker Hello? Yes. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I'm sorry Mr. Speaker. I cannot hear the Member clearly.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP, you are getting distorted again. You stay clear and then you dropped back down.
Mr. Scott Pearman Right. Is this better, Mr. Spea ker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Whenever you address back at me it stays clear. But just do whatever you need to do to stay at that angle. Mr. Scott Pearman: I will hold up this note, and I will back a few sentences just to make sure that the part wasn't missed.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes because the Attorney Gen eral missed the last few comments that you made. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, okay. Mr. Speaker, t he Oppositio n Leader has kindly ask ed m e to use his microphone. An d I'll just move to that microphone.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. We will give you a couple of minutes just to switch your location.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, is that a better audio?
The Speaker The Speaker That's perfect. That's perfect.
Mr. Scott Pearman Excellent. Well, let me continue then. I will just back up a touch to the second part of the four parts of the Bill to which I was addressing. And that was increased remedies and penalties for discrimination. Mr. Speaker, the second part of this Bill seeks to increase the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Madam Attorney General? Hon. Tinee Furbert: It's Minister Tinee Furbert.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, I am sorry. Minister Furbert, yes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do want to take this opportunity to acknowle dge the Opposition for bringing the Equal ity Bill forward.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, can you increase your volume a little bit? Or just sit a little closer; just speak a little louder, that's all. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Let’s see if this makes a difference. Does this make a difference, Mr. Speaker? Hello?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, it does. It’s coming clearer now. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Okay, good. I will just turn up the volume. Mr. Speaker, I do want to acknowledge the Opposition for bringing forward this Bill, and bringing forward an Equality Bill. I know that it could be very difficult and challenging bringing …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker And just be m indful, if you have that same issue with your sound [volume], maybe you would switch. Right now, you are nice and clear. But if the problem happens, maybe you need to use the other microphone that the MP Pearman used. But so far, you are clear. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I doubt I will have any issues with the microphone quite frankly. My voice is pretty heavy. I have listened to the substantive Minister. I guess I am kind of shocked at some of what is being said (lack of substance and this kind of thing). …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The Member is muffled.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier But the tools that are being put before you do not even exist. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier They do not exist. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I’m sorry. I am unable to clearly hear the Member who is speaking. He is sounding garbled.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP. Yes, he is going to switch to the other computer. Just give him a moment to make the adjus tment.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Much better, Member. Much better.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. I will take point and do this on a regular basis, Mr. Speaker. I was just saying that the Government in many cases when we have asked questions when they bring Bills forward . . . [they say] do not let perfection be the enemy of good, or do …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, for your contribution. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker. MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Whip, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am speaking this evening in support of this Bill and the work that has gone into advancing the antidiscrimination in Bermuda. What we are trying to do here is to promote equality, opportun ity, and equal pay. How we are going to do …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like to say a few words.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This piece of legislation is setting the example. We have got to start at some point to establish within our community the fact that everyone deserves to have an equal right to participate in this community. As a woman, Mr. Speaker, I have experienced what it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Simmons, you have the floor.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speak er. You know initially when I heard about this Bill, saw this Bill, I got a little excited. I said, Maybe the OBA is starting to get it. Maybe they are starting to get it. But then, unfortunately, I read the Bill. And while they try …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Unfortunately, the Honourable Member is misleading the House speaking of the OBA —its DNA being the UBP. This Member 1540 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly is a former UBP member, so are we saying that the DNA is in PLP as well?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons No. I left that organisation because it was racist and they had trouble dealing with the racists within them. That remains a pr oblem with your organisation based on the supporters and how they —
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Members! Members, let me interject here. We can have a full discussion this afternoon without having to go down some roads that may di stract us from the matter that i s before us. So, I am just going to ask Members on all sides to continue to be …
Mr. Jamahl S. S immons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am guided by your wisdom and experience. But the point I want to make is that the Opposition has an opportunity not to grandstand on the floor of the House but to actually do what a former leader of this country and a nat ional …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. We will take yo ur point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Bermu da House of Assembly Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: The Honourable Member is imputing improper motive here. You know, I don’t assign to that, and if I felt any colleagues here were moving …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your input there. Just be guided by his concern.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons I will try not to irritate the sensitive skin, Mr . Speaker. But the point is this: At the end of the day you cannot argue—
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The Honourable Member once again is mislead ing the public. There is no sens itive skin here. His skin may look thicker than mine, but I can assure you, it ain’t.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I say that in Bermuda vernacular.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons My skin is just prettier. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Well … well —
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons But Mr. Speaker, I am not going to continue any further. [Crosstalk]
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons I am not going to continue any further. I think my point has been made. I think that it is import ant to recognise that in my opinion my concern is that we have to as a Go vernment be able to pick people who regardless of race share the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, would you like to make your contribution? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. I would like to pick up where the Honourable Jamahl Simmons ended. He spoke about grandstanding and that if we were si ncere about equity and addressing the challenges that we face, then we should …
The Speaker The Speaker Is someone trying to get my attention? Hon. Tinee Furbert: The Member is obfuscating the truth, Mr. Speaker. The Speaker: Minister Furbert, you are fading out. Can you get a little closer to your computer or your microphone? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the information that the Opposition Leader is …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Tinee Furbert: The Honourable Member is mi sleading this House because that is not the interpret ation, Mr. Speaker, that I have received from the H uman Rights Commission. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Let me just try and move this forward. I think the point is, both sides have met with the Human Rights [Commission] and both sides thought they were on solid ground. That is what I am interpreting— Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: That is correct.
The Speaker The Speaker I am not going to let you start churning back and forth: whether I met, whether I did not meet, or they told me this, or they told me that. I think you both met, which was the right thing to do, and you are basing your movement on the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you Opposition Leader. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Hayward, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker , inequality in our society is not a touchy subject. It has been prevalent throughout our existence. Each and every one of us in this particular Chamber has been subject to some level of inequality, whether you have benefited …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading and imputing improper motive]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Member, perhaps inadvertently, is misleading the House, but, clearly, is also imputing an improper motive. And I would ask him to withdraw the remark. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, it is my opinion that there is a political exercise taking place.
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, I am going to remind Members that we have had a long afternoon here. Let’s be guided by keeping our tones above any way that is going to distract and turn the debate into an area we don’t need it to go. Minister, I know you're gifted enough to …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman Perhaps unintentionally, he mi sleading the House. But I remind him that Opposition Bills are not entitled to spend m oney.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Let me assist for clarity on this one. When the Bill was first tabled and then an amendment was brought at some point, the reason that amendment was brought was because the benchmark that this Chamber uses for an Opposition Bill is whether or not there is going to …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POIN T OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. There is no current law that does any of the four elements of our Bill. Hon. Jason Hayward: I guess we would have to di sagree because I believe that the Human Rights Co mmission has the right to issue guidelines and …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order. The Honourable Minister is misleading the House. The Equity Council is a subset of the Human Rights Commission. That's what the Bill provides for. Hon. Jason Hayward: That's what I just said, Mr. Speaker. I need protection now, because I cannot say . . . he agrees …
The Speaker The Speaker The guise of . . . I am trying to assist both of you here. The point that the Minister is making here is that in his interpretation of what is being done, those are already in place individually elsewhere, in a sense. The Shadow Minister is trying to draft …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Minister is misleading the House, although perhaps inadvertently. There were efforts for consultation and there was consultation with the Human Rights Commission. It was offered for consultation with the Government which was not accepted. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Noted. Continue, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The impediments that the Bill faced at the beginning are going to be similar to the impediments that are being faced now, which is an unworkable Bill. And so, Mr. Speaker, with that, I would like to conc lude [by saying] if we are …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive ]
Mr. Scott Pearman Again the Minister is imputing improper motive and should not do so. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ready to close, Mr. Speaker? 1546 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: I beg your pardon? Another Hon. Member: No, don’t say an ything.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, yes, I am happy to speak.
The Speaker The Speaker Madam Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You actually need to turn your camera on as well. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Okay. One second. Thank you for your patience, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, this has been an interesting but unsurpri sing debate this afternoon with regard to a Bill that is, at its best, aspir ational. And I say that because the sentiment behind the proposals is genuine and sincere. But the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Attorney General. Does any other Member wish to speak? Any other Member wish to speak? Any other Member?
Mr. Scott P earman You have got to come back to me, Mr. Speaker. Yes?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes. I am just trying to see if there is any other Member beforehand.
Mr. Scott Pearman I’ll wait patiently.
The Speaker The Speaker If no one else is going to speak, I will call on the mover of the Bill. It seems like no one else is willing to speak. So, MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, let me thank all of the speakers from both sides of the aisle who spoke tonight on this Opposition Bill. I may not agree with everything that was said on the Government benches or indeed the Backbench, but equally they made valid points. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes. I have made it quite clear that my lack of support was not to the concept but the substance of the Bill. So, the two cannot be compared in the regard.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for clarification.
Mr. Scott Pearman Let me, then, Mr. Speaker, address that point of order, that her concern is not with what the Bill is seeking t o achieve but with the format, the process, the way it is written. Respectfully, the Honourable and Learned A ttorney General commands the Attorney General’s Chambers. She sits …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading ] Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: The Honourable Member may be inadvertently misleading the House and making this clarification to amend this Bill to take into account the replication of existing provisions with very little standing. That is not an exercise you undertak e …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your viewpoint.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, I may have many, many flaws as a human being, but I am not an idiot. I have been practicing human rights law for almost 25 years now.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, I would not allow anybody to call any Member in the House an idiot. —
Mr. Scott Pearman It was self -deprecating, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker —I didn’t think that was being done.
Mr. Scott Pearman Let me get back to the substance. The Honourable and Learned Attorney General said there was no deficit in our human rights laws. And I wrote that down. That is something she said. If she is right that there is no deficit in our human rights laws that does not …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I respect the Member’s characterisation of himself as not being an idiot. But I do not think that the persons who assist in the ex ercise of reviewing these Bills are idiots either.
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, I certainly did not say that,
Mr. Speaker. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons I am not suggesting that the Member has said that, Mr. Speaker. But I suggest that we not . . . I am trying to be polite and be respec tful here as the debate warrants. I would encourage, Mr. Speaker, the Member to be careful in his remarks.
Mr. Scott Pearman I will not only be careful, Mr. Speaker, I will be precise in the rebuttal of the sugges-tion that our Bill causes confusion and disharmony in existing statutes. Again, Mr. Speaker, this is not —
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, find your centre ground and stay in your centre ground.
Mr. Scott Pearman I will, and I will stick with the facts because that is the safest place. The fact is that this Bill is only seeking to do four things, four new things, I might add. Firstly, to give an interpretive tool to the courts, so that they can interpret legislation wherever …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. As the mover of the Bill, you can ask that we go into Committee.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I asked if there were any objections. You responded? Hon. E. David B urt: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I’m waiting for further comment. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if the Bill is to be committed, it has to go to a vote. So, I am objecting so that the vote can be held. The Deputy Clerk: There are no other obj ections. We need three objections …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that is what I am waiting for. The Deputy Clerk: —for a vote. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I object, Mr. Speaker. Mi nister Rabain. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I object, Mr. Speaker.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I object, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. [ Crosstalk]
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Object, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, we've had three [objections]. So now we will take a vote call. The Deputy Clerk: Okay, Mr. Speaker, w e will do the two minutes to allow Members to come online before we start calling the names. So start the two minutes now.
The Speaker The Speaker Two minutes will start right now. Yes. [ Pause] The Deputy Clerk: Mr. Speaker, we should point out that the normal procedure on these votes is to require Members to have their cameras on at the time that they vote. So, Members, be aware that when you give your vote …
The Speaker The Speaker That’s the clock, Mr. Somner. Members, this will be a name call. Mr. Somner will call your name. In order for it to be recorded, we not only have to hear you, we have to see you. We are now at a vote that's going to either support or oppose …
The Speaker The Speaker Right. Mr. Somner will start calling you individually, and as if we were in the House, that two- minute per iod just now, I would ask Members to return to their seats to participate. Any Member who has not entered inside of those two minutes will not participate, so we …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Adams, did you respond? The Deputy Clerk: I didn’t hear it.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, go on to the next person. The Deputy Clerk: Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch. [ No audible reply] 1552 1 July 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Colonel, we can’t hear you if you are responding.
The Speaker The Speaker Nay? Okay.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I think that “Nay” was MP Adams,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Mr. Adams, we had moved on. Once your name is missed, sir, we do not go back. If you were not on the camera when we were callin g . . . if your camera was not on when we were asking for you, unfortunately, you missed the vote. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, you heard the count which means that the matter will not go into Committee, and ends at t his stage here. Thank you. [Motion to commit the Equality Act 2022 to a Commi ttee of the whole House failed on Division.]
The Speaker The Speaker We will now move on. There is no other business on the Order P aper for today, so I will go to the third readings on the other Bills. Go ahead and do the third readings. I have a comment to make after the third readings. Premier. SUSPENSION OF STANDING …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none, continue. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspend ed.] BILL THIRD READING BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2022 be read for a third …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2022 was given a third reading and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Madam Attorney General. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled Criminal Code Amendment at 2022 be now read a third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections? There are none, continue Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] Be rmuda House of Assembly BILL THIRD READING CRIMINAL CODE AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Criminal Code Amendment Act 2022 be now read …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Bill has been read a third time by its title only and has now passed. [ Motion carried: The Criminal Code Amendment Act 2022 was given a third reading and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker This brings us to a full conclusion of the business side. The next will be left for the Premier to move us to the motion to adjourn. Premier, before you do that, I feel obligated to make a comment. SPEAKER’S COMMENT ON THE DIVISION ADULY NOTED “ABSENT” MP VOTING IN …
The Speaker The Speaker And the comment was simply . . . I am not going to name any individual, but when the House and the Speaker have been duly noted that a Member is going to be absent, I am extremely surprised that that Member would choose to participate in a vote if …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if no one is speaking, I am.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Speaker: Mr Richardson, would you like to speak?
Mr. Anthony Richardson Can you just give me a moment to myself please so I can come on camera as required? Mr. Speaker, can you hear me and see me?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I can. SUPPORTING PUBLIC EDUCATION
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good afternoon to you, Mr. Speaker, to my fellow colleagues and the listening audience. Mr. Speaker, this evening I would like to speak in the context of the Bermuda public school system. We all know that this is a season whereby we celebrate . . . I spoke on this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Education. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I'll defer to, I’ll defer to Mr. Dunkley.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 30 minutes. SUPPORTING PUBLIC EDUCATION Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I will not need . . . hopefully five minutes. Mr. Speaker, I just want to follow on from MP Richardson to express my sincere gratitude to all of our educators and …
Mr. Speaker. I appreciate it. The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley , you have the floor. Bermu da House of Assembly TRAVEL AUTHORISATION FORMS Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, good evening, Mr. Speaker . And let me support the Minister in his co ngratulations to all of our teachers and all the professionals in the education industry. They have …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And I w ill come back again. Sorry , Mr. Deputy Speaker. I think you're in the Chair right now . And come back again another time and talk about some issues. But, Mr. Deputy Speaker , I end where I star ted. That if …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Dunkley , and you have a safe evening also. Let me apologi se for not having my camera on. My phone is having difficulties and the advice was to turn my camera off. Are there a ny further speakers ?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Mr. Deputy Speaker .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It sounds like Mr. Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I’m getting my camera on.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There you go. Go ahead. TRAVEL AUTHORISATION FORM
Mr. L. Craig Cannonie r Thank you. Thank you , Mr. Deputy Speaker and good evening to you. I want to start off by congratulating the Educ ation Minister Diallo Rabain. I've been out a few times in different restaurants and the likes and it's been great actually to be able to say congratulations to …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I also want to touch a little on . . . I got a few subject s here, a little on the econ omy and where we are. And I must say , Deputy Speaker, I was very glad to hear that we have a m otion forward by yourself …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, yes, I think you need to stop because you're bringing stuff here that has not been verified, and I don't . . . this, motion to adjourn is not about bringing stuff that can’t be verified. You will have to table that. You have to be careful of …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier All I was saying was that it is a concern to see that an attorney would be raising such a subject matter. I will take your guidance on that. That was only my concern that it was brought up by an attorney in the public forum. In the past we …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That’s fine.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier In addition t o that, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I thought that the Speaker was still going to be in the House. Back some time ago, Honourable Member Famous made mention—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I cannot address that, Mr. Cannonier. And I respect what you are saying, right? But I am thinking that would be best left for the Speaker. I mean, I can't stop you from saying it; but I just can't address it.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes, yes. I haven’t said what it is yet. But, yes, okay. You must be reading my notes, Deputy Speaker .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, I am. [Laughter] Bermu da House of Assembly APOLOGY FOR USE OF UNPARL IAMENTARY LANGUAGE NOT FORT HCOMING FROM MP FAMOUS
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Honourable Member F amous used a derogatory term as far as “monkey” is concerned. And the Speaker said that he expected an apology in the next [ sitting] when we came in. And that apology has not been forthcoming. We have been here a couple of [sittings] now, and I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Cannonier. You have a great weekend also. Are there any further speakers? Any further speakers? Hon. E. David Bur t: I will close, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The Premier, the Honourable David Burt. You have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: I am sure you want to [speak].
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Well, it's my Sabbath. Hon. E. David Burt: Well, we can't be meeting tomorrow, then.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I'm trying, you know . . . it is difficult, but we’re going to try to be there. GUN VIOLENCE IN BERMUDA Hon. E. David Burt: No problem. Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, it certai nly hurts my heart this evening to have to offer …
The Speaker The Speaker I am in the Chair. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, Mr. Speaker, you are! COST OF LIVING IN BERMUDA Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I look forward to next week when we debate the Deputy Speaker’s m otion who serves as the Chairman of the Cost of Living 1566 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Thank you, Members, for your participation today. It has been a full day of debate and discussion. I trust that everyone will have a pleasant weekend. And we look forward to returning to Chambers here for the next sitting on the 15 th of [July]. Members, stay …
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