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House of Assembly Session 2021/2022 478 speeches

May 6, 2022

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Session Summary

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Parliament discussed a bill that would allow new types of guided tour vehicles (like "Tuk-Tuks") to operate on Bermuda's roads, with the same access to national parks as taxis currently have. The Minister of Economy and Labour presented the annual report for Financial Assistance, showing reduced complaints and improved services, though some MPs questioned the lack of specific statistics. The Minister of Social Development reported on training programs for litigation guardians who protect children's interests in court cases.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date May 6, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 31
Speeches 478

Key Topics

Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2022 - creating rules for guided tour vehicles and minicar livery licensingDepartment of Financial Assistance Annual Report 2020-2021 - reviewing government assistance programs and performanceLitigation Guardian Service Update - progress on protecting children in court proceedingsPublic Health COVID-19 Emergency Extension Order - continuing pandemic emergency powers

Bills & Motions

Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2022 - introduced for first reading (same content as 2021 version that previously passed the House but failed in Senate)
Public Health (COVID-19) Emergency Extension (No. 4) Order 2022 - tabled for information

Notable Moments

Opposition MPs questioned why guided tour vehicles should have access to national parks, leading to a somewhat testy response from the Transport Minister who noted the same bill had already passed before
Technical difficulties plagued the virtual sitting, with computers going down at the start and some documents not being available online
Multiple MPs expressed condolences for recent deaths from violence and accidents, highlighting ongoing community trauma

Debate Transcript

478 speeches from 31 speakers
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good morning, MPs [and] members of the public. We will open Parliament [with] prayer by Ms. Beale. Ms. Beale, can you lead us in prayer? I’m sorry . . . one second, Ms. Beale, I’m sorry. Sergeant -at-Arms. [Pause]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker We are having some technical difficulties. Just bear with us; the computers have gone down. [Crosstalk]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker We are going to be about five minutes. We are trying to get some technical glitches fixed. [Pause]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good morning, Members of Parliament and the listening audience. We will start our session today with a prayer by Ms. Beale. Ms. Beale. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Ms. Beale. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 22 April 2022 ]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any ob jection to the confirm ation of the Minutes of the 22nd of April? There appear to be no objections. The Minutes are confirmed [Minutes of 22 April 2022 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPE AKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are some papers and other communications to the House. Minister Wilson, Minister of Health. Hon. Kim N. Wilson : Good morning, Mr. Deputy Speaker. PUBLIC HEALTH (COVID- 19) EMERGENCY EXTENSION (NO. 4) ORDER 2022 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Wilson . We have another paper by Minister Hayward, Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister Hayward. [No audible response]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Well, the Minister is not— Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, may I lay it on his behalf? 1250 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Deputy Speaker: Yes, you may. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. PETITIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker We have a Statement from the Minister of Transport . Honourable Member , Mr. Scott , you have the floor. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . MOTOR CAR (LIVERIES) AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Deputy Speaker, today I will be tabling the Motor …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Scott. There is another Ministerial Statement from Minister Tinee Furbert. Minister Furbert . LITIGATION GUARDIAN SERVICE UPDATE Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank you for allowing me this opportunity. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I rise to report to this Honourable House the recent progress about …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Furbert. We have a Statement from [the Minister of Economy and Labour] . Minister Hayward, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good morning, sir. DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ANNUAL REPORT 2020 –2021 Hon. Jason Hayward: This morning I r ise to lay the 2020 –2021 Annual Report of the Department of F inancial Assistance as prescribed by the Financial A ssistance Act 2001 , section 3(4) which states , “The Director …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Hayward. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There is a one- hour Question Period. So far , we only have one question for the Mi nister of Transport , and that is from the Honourable Member Susan Jackson. Ms. Jackson, you may ask your question.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: MOTOR CAR (LIVERIES) AMENDMENT ACT 2022
Ms. Susan E. Jackson My question is for the Mini ster of Transport. I just wanted to get a little more clar ity around the distinction between the guided tour v ehicle and a public service vehicle. I am just trying to ask how a taxi is included in the guided tour vehicle as …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Deputy Speaker, a public service vehicle is not included as a guided tour vehicle. The Statement was highlighting the discrim inatory nature of the amendment that the Opposition brought in the Senate, or in another place, by saying that guided tour vehicles could not …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Ms. Jackson, any further questions? Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: MOTOR CAR (LIVERIES) AMENDMENT ACT 2022
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Yes, I have a further question. Regarding the access to the national parks, does that mean that guided tour vehicles —which is a new definition —will somehow be incorporated into the National Parks Act in order for guided tour vehicles to fall under the same …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: There is no need to speci fically include them into the National Parks Act. They will be limited , or prohibited, from accessing any part, or the protected parts, of the national parks [system] . Simpl y stated, where a taxi, minibus and limousine can …
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Scott Pearman, you have the floor. Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTAR IES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Spe aker. Thank you, Minister. Minister, just to clarify, a guided tour vehicle which is the three- or four -wheeled vehicle as defined , being with a bicycle seat for the driver or rider and steered by handlebars . . . what restrictions will be imposed …
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Deputy Speaker: Yes, Mr. Pearman, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Minister, what is a “protected area” in the national park, as different from the rest of the national park? Is that a smaller area than the rest of the park off the paths? Or is it all areas of the park off the paths?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister Scott. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I find it interesting that this same Bill has passed already , and we have had all these questions that were a nswered . But I will answer them again. The fact is that sand dunes, beaches, those types of areas …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further questions to the Minister? QUESTION 3: MOTOR CAR (LIVERIES) AMENDMENT ACT 2022
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I have one other question , and this is just regarding the access with our main roads . Can the Minister please describe what controls may be put in place to ensure the smooth mov ement of traffic if t here are going to be large …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Supplementary.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, Ms. Jackson, continue. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So will there be a restriction or a control around the number of guided tour vehicles 1254 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly that will be in a tour group while on the main roads in Bermuda?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: If the Honourable Member read the legislation last time, the answer is in the legislation. It has not changed. It is still six vehicles at the maximum.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any further questions to Mini ster Scott?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson [No, Mr. Deputy] Speaker, thank you and good morning.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member Susan Jackson. There is one other person who wants to ask a quest ion to Minister Hayward. MP Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Can you hear me?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, we hear you. QUESTION 1: DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ANNUAL REPORT 2020 –2021
Mr. Jario n Richardson Thank you, sir. And I thank the Honourable Minister for bringing his Statement to the floor of the House this morning. Mr. Deputy Speaker, would the Honourable Minister be able to clarify the actual reductions that were made that he is referring to on page 1? He says that there …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Deputy Speaker, as I look through the actual report itself, it speaks to this item in general and does not have the statistics as it pertains to the reduction year over year as it pertains to the reported complaints. It just speaks to that …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am going to belabour the point a little bit, only b ecause this is a $52 million department and we do have metrics in the Budget Book. So when would the Ho nourable Minister be able to get those numbers to me?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I aim to get those numbers to the Member before the next si tting of the House.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Mr. Richardson, any further questions?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, second question.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mm-hmm. QUESTION 2: DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ANNUAL REPORT 2020 –2021
Mr. Jarion Richardson In the Honourable Minister’s Statement, on page 3 he says: “ At the end of this fi scal period, the total amount of recoverable debt recorded was approximately $469,627. ” Does the Honourable Minister know how much it was in the prev ious year? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Deputy Speaker, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further questions, Mr. Richardson?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker. How are we supposed to scrutinise his Stat ement if there are no numbers?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Richardson, the Minister said he would endeavour to get those figures to you.
Mr. Jarion Richardson I apologise, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank you; I beg your indulgence. I thank the Honourable Minister for his Stat ement.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Richardson. There appear t o be no other questions for Ministers. Next is Congratulatory and/or Obituary Speeches. Bermuda House of Assembly CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I don’t see anyone at this time. I think there is one [Member] who wanted to speak on Congratulatory and Obituary Speeches. I believe it was MP Foggo. MP Lovitta Foggo.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mm-hmm.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. With a sad heart I would like to send condolences to two young mothers who have recently lost their sons to violence. The first mother is Ms. Sandra Hill who is a constituent of mine. I had opportunity to talk with her and I cannot …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Honourable Member Lovitta Foggo. Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Deputy Speaker, MP Pearman.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member Pearman, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I beg your indulgence. The Statement given by Honourable Minister Furbert earlier does not appear to be avail able on the website or on the Order Paper, so if could be placed up we would be most grateful, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Let me apologise. We are having some techni cal difficulties, but we will do our best to get it out to you ASAP.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And again, with your indulgence, there was supposed to be a Statement on fuel pricing. We are assuming that this Statement is not being given.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Not today.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And thank you for allowing me to clarify the position.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Not a problem. Thank you also. Any further speakers?
Mr. Tyrrell. Mr. Nev ille S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank you very much. Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I just want to give some congratulations to some students at the Purvis Prim ary School. Even though Purvis is not in my constitue ncy, the st udents who live in my constituency have been …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Tyrrell. Any further speakers? Minister Weeks. [No audible response]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister Weeks —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The Member is on mute. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, Mr. Weeks. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, good morning to you; good morning, colleagues. I would like to start off, Mr. Deputy Speaker, by associating myself with the remarks from the Member from constituency 3, MP Foggo, in giving the co ndolences to the two mothers that lost their …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Weeks. And congratulations to your team; may they be as ex-citing as Liverpool. [Laughter and inaudible interjection]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It seems like Minister Furbert, Tinee . . . [No audible response]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Unmute your microphone, Ms.— Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I do want to send condolences to the family of Omar Jennings. Omar Jennings, Mr. Deputy Speaker, was a client, or service user, of K . Margaret Carter Centre. Omar will be sorely missed. I just wanted to …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Would you associate me, please? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Absolutely! I would like to ass ociate MP Foggo in regard to Troika. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Furbert. The next Member is the Honourable Member Crystal Caesar. Ms. Crystal Caesar: Good morning and thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I join this morning, and whilst I am not speaking on congratulations, I think it is appropriate for me to also join with the Minister of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The entire House, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Go ahead, MP.
Ms. Crystal Caesar —as they stood with me. And so, yes, I will associate the entire House. I am sure that colleagues on both sides understand that this is a tragedy that affects not just the area, but the entire country. Finally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, another condolence that I would like to give …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Caesar. The next speaker is Member Cannonier. Member Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, very much, and good morning to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good morning. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: I just want to thank MP Cry stal Caesar for associating us to the unfortunate situation that happened at Hilltop. We know that it was such a tragic event which affected many in the area and Island- wide. On another …
Mr. L. Craig Ca nnonier Most of you would know that I am very close with the Pearman family —
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Associate me, please, Honourable Member.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Absolutely! Associate MP Swan of constituency 2, which I believe she lived in; almost on the border of constituency 1 and 2, actually. But certainly I am sure that Honourable Member Foggo would like to be associated as well with this here, knowing her, and yourself, Mr. Deputy Speaker, as …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, I t hought you were from St. David’s, but anyhow, you are—
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes! [Laughter]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker —switching. Thank you for associating me with the remarks on Ms. Pearman. The next speaker is the Member, my MP, from St. George’s, Ren ee Ming.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Deputy Spea ker. How are you today?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I am very well, my dear. And you?
Mrs. Renee Ming Good. I am all right. First of all, I would like to associate myself with the comments for the Pearman family. They are a long-standing St. Georgian family and I know my own family has had connections with them for quite some time, as Mr. Pearman, who passed some years …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Associate me, please.
Mrs. Renee Ming —that came through the St. George’s Cricket Club, Junior [League]. He travelled overseas. He lived overseas for some time and played professionally as a goalkeeper. More importantly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, he was an inspiration to all young footballers who are coming up and who aspired just like he did. And …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Ming. I think we would like to associate the whole House because I understand Freddy played for the Bermuda Squad, played for Bermuda. And I know his father so I certainly associate myself with your remarks.
Mrs. Renee Ming Mm -hmm . 1258 6 May 2022 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly The Deputy Speaker: Any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. MP Pearman.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mm-hmm. You have the floor, sir.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. I would like to send condolences to the H arvey family, the family of Dr. Eugene Harvey, for the loss of his beloved wife, Susan. She was a long - standing Bermudian with a number of children, including my OBA colleague, Elizabeth Harvey, who has stood for the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. Pearman. A ny further speakers?
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Honourable Member Dickinson, you have the floor.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to have the House convey condolences to the family of Gryneth Robinson. You may know Ms. Robinson as Gwen Robinson.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Gryneth quite recently lost two of her granddaughters. One will be buried tomorrow at the Trinity Church. She also lost her granddaughter, Dalana Robinson, daughter of Dawnelle. Her other granddaughter is Devonna Robins on, daughter of Dee Dee DeShields. So I would as k the House to send condolences to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, Mr. Dickinson.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson On a brighter note, I would like to have the House offer congratulations to Bermuda’s CARIFTA team for their recent performance at the CARIFTA Games in Jamaica. I am particularly proud to be giving congratulations in light of my youngest child’s contribution to the efforts of the U nder 17 …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I am sure that comes from her mother’s side. [Laughter]
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Absolutely. Although I would add that when you see the tape and you see her at 300 meters and the other little girl comes up next to her, the grip that she displayed was her father’s. [Laughter]
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Mr. Deputy Speaker, I associate myself with these remarks.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Mr. Deputy Speaker, in light of the fact that I have congratulated one of my chi ldren, I would not want to then face the other two. So I have some notable news for my younger son who is today in the midst of taking IB exams and he is …
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson So congratulations to my son.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I suppose you have to get it in there. That’s fine. But he won’t be here without his mother.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any further speakers?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, and I would like to be associated with the condolences expressed to the Pearman and the —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Is your camera on, Mr. Swan?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I’m sorry. I do have it on now. Sorry. Bermuda House of Assembly The Deputy Speaker: Okay.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I think you should see me.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, we see you now.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I cleared my tie and ev erything. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like my condolences to be associated with the Pearman and Hall families. Both constituents, as the Honourable Member former Premier Cannonier spoke, a true St. George’s family through and through, up there on the Hill. My condolences go …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Swan. Any further speakers? Hon. E. David Burt: If I may, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Premier David Burt, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, today I would certainly like to be as sociated with the condolences offered earlier today, certainly for the families of the young men who tragically lost their lives to violence and …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Premier. The next speaker is the Honourable Member Zane De Silva. Member De Silva. [No audible response]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I guess he has got some tec hnical difficulties. Any further speakers? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Oh, please. Mr. De Silva, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like the House to send condolences to Mr. Mike Moniz’ family. Mike was a very good friend of mine, going way back. He …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member De Silva. Any further speakers? There appear to be none. I will just close it out by also having this House send condolences to the family of Ms. Jean Clarke, one of my constituents. She was a member of one of our most exciting churches in …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. And the Premier would like to be associated wit h those remarks. Thank you. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There appear to be none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There appear to be none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORT ANCE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There appear to be none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I think we have one or two. Minister Scott. FIRST READING MOTOR CAR (LIVERIES) AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. D eputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mini ster Scott. Are there any other Bills? And I am asking that even though it is not on the [Order Paper]. I had some glitches. Do any other Ministers have any Bills for i ntroduction of Bills? There appear to be none. OPPOSITION BILLS The Deputy Speak …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have carried that over, Mr. Pearman?
Mr. Scott Pearman No, I am withdrawing and retabling pursuant to the Speaker’s direction. The Deputy Speak er: Yes. OPPOSITION BILL WITHDRAWN [Standing Orders 25 and 48] EQUALITY ACT 2021
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Deputy Speaker, under the provisions of Standing Orders 48 and 25, I move to withdraw the Bill entitled Equality Act 2021, which was tabled on December 10, 2021. Mr. Deputy Speaker, under the provisions of Standing Order 14, I would like to move the first read-ing of the Bill …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Let me get the approval of the House to withdraw the Bill. Are there any objections to the withdrawal of this Bill? There appear to be none. Granted. [Motion passed: The Opposition Bill entitled Equality Act 2021 was withdrawn.]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, Mr. Pearman. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, under the provision of Standing Order 14, I would like to move the first reading of the Bill entitled Equality Act 2022. OPPOSITION BILL FIRST READING [Standing Order 14] EQUALITY ACT 2022
Mr. Scott Pearman Under the provisions of Standing Order 28(1), I ask for leave so that I may introduce the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the Equality Act 2022.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I am not aware of any. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I think we only have one which is [Order No.] 2. The second reading of the Fairmont Southampton [Hotel] Act 2022 in the name of the Mi nister of Tourism. Minister Campbell, you have the floor. Hon. Vance Campbell: Good morning, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good morning, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Deputy Speaker, with the Governor’s recommendation I move that the Bill ent itled the Fairmont Southampton Hotel Act 2022 be now read the second time.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING FAIRMONT SOUTHAMPTON HOTEL ACT 2022 Hon. Vance Campb ell: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Bill before this Honourable House is not complex on its face. Although it proposes to extend relief for 15 years, it is in the form of those Tourism Investment Orders that have …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers to this Bill?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Cannonier, Honourable Member, you have the flo or.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am trying something different here, Mr. De puty Speaker. You can hear me okay; yes?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, we can.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I know you were having diff iculty befor e, so I just want to make sure.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker No problem. Thank you so much.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you so much. And thank you colleagues for the opportunity here to di scuss something that has become near and dear to all Bermudians as we hav e been moving through the passage of trying to revitalise our tourism industry. It goes without saying that the tourism industry has …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And so I am disappointed that we did not hear more details from the Minister. This is his portfolio. He is an astute Learned and Hon-ourable Member. I am sure he can be given information. We should not have to be waiting for som eone else to give us more …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Now, some may argue or refute, but this appears to be some of his reasoning for stepping back. He said that, you know, this is the reason why I am stepping down. Whether or not there was a guarantee in place, there has been a lot of speculation because it …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Now, I know, and I am sure that we are going to hear, Mr. Deputy Speaker, interpolations of other projects. I am not interested in that, Mr. Deputy Speaker. There is enough mud to be thrown around. And I have been involved with thro wing around figures and numbers going …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is misleading the House, Mr. Deputy Speaker. To say that Gencom’s only —only—reason for investing in Bermuda—
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That is not what I said. That is not what I said! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What did you say? I will stand corrected.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Why don’t y ou listen? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, don’t be rude. B ecause I can be rude too, you know, Cannonier.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Members. Members.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier You are rude. You didn’t listen.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Members! Members! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You are the one to talk about somebody who doesn’t listen. You only got rocks in between your ears.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP DeSilva, let’s keep this in the proper manner. Continue.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I will clarify what I said. I said that this is one of the reasons, one of the major reasons, because he said the airport was a major factor. I said one of the major reasons why they invested. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is the point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] 1270 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you for that clarific ation. It is definitely misleading this House. To make a statement that Gencom said, and Gencom said …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP, MP De Silva, he is only reporting what he said was told to him. And you got to take it as that is. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Deputy Speaker, what was told to him is third- hand information.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Table something that proves it.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes . . . now hang on. Hang on. Now stop it, please! Listen when I am t alking. That is the opinion that was given to him and he is just r elaying it. Yes, it is third -party hearsay. So, you take it as that. Continue, Mr. Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. As a point of clarification, I wi ll read . . . I said I was reading from an article that was done in inter-viewing Gencom part owner, Karim , on December 5, 2017, (quote) “Karim Alibhai,” (I don’t know how to say his …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Was there something? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, yes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So, Mr . Deputy Speaker, with so little information being given here so far today, it becomes extremely difficult to ensure that Bermuda, that we as an Opposition, and maybe even some PLP Members, I don’t know, that we get a very clear pi cture of exactly . . . …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order, Member. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I don’t think the Member is intentionally misleading the House on this matter, but if he is going to say that he met with Gencom, the principals of Gencom, and they made that particular statement, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, but Member, he does not have to, you know. It is not a requirement that he states that. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, I understand that, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am saying for —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Well, that is not a point of order, Member. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, okay , sorry about that.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker No problem. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But I thought that the Ho nourable Member would do just that. Be honourable. And state who he met with.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, but he does not have to. Thank you, Honourable Member.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I think that he can check with his Premier and the Premier can certainly allude who he met and let him know on his side who met. I know that the Premier is aware of the meeting. So he can check with his— Hon. E. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. I have no idea to which meeting he is referring to . And I would certainly hope the Honourable Member would clarify whether he is talking about breaking even on the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, be car eful of that because you are putting it as if the Premier was in the meeting with you. 1272 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: Oh, no, no, no.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Well, that is the way it —
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier My apologies. [Crosstalk]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Clarify that, Member.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Sure. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I will clarify that. I was not alluding or suggesting that the Premier was in the meeting. I did say that a meeting request was asked of the Premier. It did not happen in a particular timeframe as to the Opposition Leader. And then …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am being transparent.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What’s your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourabl e Member, Mr. Deputy Speaker, just . . . I won’t say lie. But we all heard what he said. That is why the Premier came in like he did. He said, ask …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member. Honourable Member De Silva, that . . . we have gone past that point. We have clarified that, Member. You do not have to go back there. We have clarified that. The Premier made the point of order. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. Thank you, Mr. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker He clarified. We do not have to go any further than that. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Cannonier, continue. We are not going to be entertaining a whole lot of point -of-orders on nonsense. Continue, Mr. Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am attempting to be as transparent as I can on questions that were asked and meetings that were had, so I appreciate . . . I understand the questioning. And I appreciate being given the opportunity to give clarification on this. As I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, you have to remember that this same debate as far as acces s to information that was never received happened during the time that the OBA was in power. So, you know, I think you just have to be careful of that. We do no want to be …
Mr. L. Craig Cannon ier Yes, no . . . no . . .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Just be mindful of that, that’s all.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. I am mindful, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am not trying to throw stones. I am sim ply saying it would be nice to have more information at this point and juncture. That’s all I am saying. It would be nice to have more information and I take to heart, …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I do not want to belabour the point. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member needs to retract that, Mr. Deputy Speaker. First of all, he said what is going on in the blogs, and we are gi ving out to the fat cats. That needs to be retracted, Mr. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That is not a poi nt of order, Mr. De Silva. That is just a figure of speech. I am not offended by that. Continue, Mr. Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I would like to draw our attention, if we will, to a recent article. And I want to t alk about synergies here between governments. A recent article on May 5, 2022 , in the Royal Gazette , where the Honourable Crystal Caes ar mentions, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Cannonier, if you know the history of that hotel, they will always have 70- plus of Bermudians there, right from inception.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I don’t think that is unrealistic at all.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. The reason I am saying that is because the tourism industry has changed. It has become more competitive since we had that 77 per cent. And now that it has been closed, some people have fallen away. So, again, I am hoping that we get to that point, but …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member Cannonier, you have got about eight minutes. Do you want to finish and then we will finish after your eight minutes and then we will go to lunch?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. Thank you for the heads up, Mr. Deputy Speaker. What I am attempting to do is to highlight, quite frankly, some of the concerns, and I think the major concern that we are hearing is why the 15 years. And we do not, still to this date at …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank yo u, Mr. Cannonier. Mr. Premier, do you want to move us for lunch. Hon. E. David Burt: Absolutely, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until two o’clock.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The House is adjourned until 2:00 pm. Members , have a great lunch. Proceedings suspended at 12:33 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Deputy Speaker, in the Chair]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good afternoon, Members. I trust you all have had a nutritious lunch. We are r esumi ng the debate on the second reading of the Fai rmont Southampton Hotel Act 2022. The next speaker would be the Premier, the Honourable E. David Burt. Premier, you have the floor. BILL SECOND …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Deputy Speaker. Hon. E. David Burt: —which means that the developers were relying on residential sales to earn the funds necessary —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I hear a voice.
Mr. Jarion Richar dson Yes sir, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Opposition Whip.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, Mr. Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes sir, I noticed that the Premier is looking . . . it looks like he is reading from prepared remarks. I tried to raise it on the chat. Is he reading from prepared remarks? Hon. E. David Burt: I am reading a brief on the Bill. Would you like …
Mr. Jarion Richardson You are not allowed to.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are not the primary speaker.
Mr. Jarion Richardso n So, I thought the primary Minister read prepared remarks. I didn't realise the Premier, as third speaker, was permitted to do the same. Hon. E. David Burt: I am referring to my notes, Mr. Deputy Speaker. If the Opposition wants a full briefing in detai l, I am trying to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Continue Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Hon. E. David Burt: What is essential to note, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that the Morgan’s Point project was not fully funded which means that the developers were relying on residential sales to earn the funds necessary to complete the project. So, Honourable Members, I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you very much, Honourable Premier. Are there any further speakers? Any further speakers? I recognise the Honourable Member Lawrence Scott. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Mr. Deputy Speaker, I know you are from Hamilton Parish, and that they aren’t as churchgoing in Hamilton Parish …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I read it. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: That verse says, Mr. Dep uty Speaker, to let your ye a be your yea and your nay be your nay. It is disappointing, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that the Opposition are out in the press and even earlier today in this House stating …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, Mr. Cannonier? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I think . . . well, I was going to say not intentionally , but it is intentional . He is misleading the House. Just because someone questions matters of the Bill does not mean they do not support it. This is not a monolithic situation here. We have all …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That is not a point of order, Mr. Cannonier. I understand your observation.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I did say he is misleading the House, [when he says] that we are not on the same side.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Well, what he is saying is that you are saying you support it, but . . . you have the “but” that is what he is saying.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Deputy Speaker, if I might be indulged, that is the process . If we have 1282 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly questions we should ask the questions . And that is all we have done.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Understood. Thank you Mr. Cannonier. Continue, Minister . Hon. W . Lawrence Scott: Matthew 5:37, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Let your yea be your yea and your nay be your nay. If you are going to vote for the Bill say , I'm going to vote for the Bill and support …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Scott . Thank you so much. Are there any other speakers ? Are there any f urther speakers from the O pposition ? Is the Opposition finished speaking?
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, identify yourself . Is that MP Richardson?
Mr. Jache Adams I am just sort ing out my camera here. It’s MP Adams , Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Adams. Continue, sir, you have the floor.
Mr. Jache Adams Can you hear me now , Mr. Deputy Speaker?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, I can hear you. Continue.
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Deputy Speaker, I was going to base my c ontribution this afternoon around three quotes. I read a few articles last evening that inspired me to cue the fourth My first quote today will come from the 44 th President of the United States . President Barack Obama famously …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you MP Adams. Are there any further speakers? Is the Opposition going to participate in this debate? It seems not. Okay, any fur ther speakers? So I can close this . . . yes, MP Dickinson. You have the floor.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, six weeks ago I deli vered a statement by way of a personal explanation setting out the reasons for my resignation as Minister Bermuda House of Assembly of Finance. Mr. Deputy Speaker, in that statement I advised this Honourable House and the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Dickinson. Are there any further speakers? The Speaker recognises the Honourable Mi nister of Labour and Economy, Mr. Hayward. You have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I listened carefully to the submission of the former Minister of Finance. The former Minister of Finance asked …
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Mr. Deputy Speaker, I r egretfully have to do this, and had hoped beyond hope that I would not have to do this — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What’s your point of order?
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson —but my honourable colleague is — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What is your point of order? What is it?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. De Silva, let me run the meeting please.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson I believe that my honourable colleague is unintentionally misleading t he House. Unfortunately, I cannot speak to deliberations that happen in the Cabinet Chambers —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Dickinson, you have made your point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You said you thought he was unintentionally misleading the House. Minister, continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Why are we bringing this now? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Fairmont Southampton Princess is a tourism pillar in our economy. It is Bermuda’s flagship hotel in our fleet of local hotel accommodations. Fairmont Southampton Princess, Mr. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Hayward. Thank you very much. Are there a ny further speakers?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to say a few words.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, the Chair recognises the Honourable Member Susan Jackson. Miss Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. My concern today is focusing more on the humanity behind this Bill. I would like to speak a little bit about the vision, because I would imagine that there are a number of people that are sitting at home right now wondering what …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of order, yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. When the Honourable Member says it is the first person, it should be noted that this property was for sale for a very long time. There were multiple deals that …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP, be mindful of the comments of the Premier.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Thank you very much Mr. Deputy Speaker. This speaks directly to my point. We have on the table negotiations and agreements and terms of financing that we have not necessarily considered before. And if we had just taken a few more months to have considered what potentially could …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, please remember that those folks, those overseas investors, were probably looking at the deal that was made at the airport. So be mindful of that, please.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. So with out the taxpaying dollars that we are giving away, basically with the Fairmont Southampton [Hotel] Act, and the potential that we have on Island right now, existing properties that are closed, that will be looking at this kind of concession and saying, We …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, your point of order, Mr. Premier. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member conti nues to mislead the House. It is established fact, as I gave in my Statement, that the Government of Bermuda will make more money with this development open than not. I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Jackson, please—
Ms. Susan E. Jac kson Thank you. I am going to hang on to the word “if.” I am also looking to the future and looking at this from a visionary perspective that says that there is almost no way . . . there are existing hotels on this Island, future hotels and closed hotels, …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson The St. George’s Resort Act. Like most of us, I went back and looked through the Hansard for that. And I could not help but raise my eyebrows at the fact that the PLP Administration at the time were most agitated to get as many details about the St. [George’s] …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker A point of order, Premier? Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is again unintentionally misleading the House. The St. George’ s Resort Act was not just a concessions Act which was passed by the former Government, but also consisted of a …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, again, let me repeat. The St. George’ s property belonged to Government . The Southampton Princess property is privately owned. It does not belong to Government. Comparing the two is not really the way to go.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Deputy Speaker. I will never profess to be the financial numbers person, but one of t he pieces that did strike me was just a simple but major piece of information that would have helped me. That is that there is a defini-tion in the Fairmont Southampton [Hotel] …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member. [Crosstalk ]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am just making my point : no matter how little or how much, i t would be very nice to just have a little more information. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, you are right. You won’t find a def inition of a guest room. Di fferent hotels have different definitions, different sized rooms, different amenities and everything else. So, no; y ou won’t find that . . . what you’re looking for. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker One second. Deputy Leader, do you have a point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. I have a point of order. Mr. Deputy Speaker. I think the Member was referencing clauses in the Bill, and, as you know, we haven’t gone to Com-mittee yet . It …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Mini ster. Ms. Jackson, continue.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Deputy S peaker. Just making a point there. In conclusion, I do not think that there is an ything much within these three pages that really gives me and the constituents that I listen to who are concerned about the future, especially regarding the po-tential dilution of the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, ple ase do not mislead the House. The Premier outlined the cost to everyone.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson It would be nice to see.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker [INAUDIBLE ] But he did do that.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Do not mislead the House.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I would like to know a little bit more about — Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Deputy Speaker —
Ms. Susan E. Jackson —[INAUDIBLE] thoughts around condo development. 1292 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Deputy Speaker. Point of or der, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, sir? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: The Honourable Member is imputing improper motive when she used the line “above board,” that something is “not above board.” She is imputing improper motive. I would request that she retract that statement.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I did not hear it ; but if that is what you said, Ms. Jackson, if that is what you said, I would ask you to withdraw those remarks.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Okay. I can withdraw them. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson My final piece is the information around the employment at the Fairmont Southampton. I know that may be down the road, and that the unions are in agreement with some structure. But I am very interested in making sure that Bermudians are given a fair and a vast majority advantage …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, let me say this to you. You should know that if you do not know the history of Berm uda Industrial Union, I would ask you to go and talk to the union. They can tell you what they have done and continuously do in the hotel industry. …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Deputy Speaker. I guess my point really is that this is one of the first really big deals that we have negotiated. And I know that we are negotiating with some seasoned professionals, international developers. We just need to keep our eyes open, stay alert, pay attention to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Ms. Jackson. Any further speakers?
Mr. Jason Wade Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I can’t recognise the voice. Is that Mr. Wade?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, Honourable Member Jason Wade. You have the floor.
Mr. Jason Wade I appreciate it, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, as I have listened to the past few speakers, some things jumped out to me. One is, why now? Another is, wait six months. As the Honourable Member whose constit uency Southampton Princess falls in, that concerns me. That is concerning …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Wade, can you pause a second?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Opposition, you have your m icrophone open. Can you close your microphone, please? Thank you. Continue.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Deputy Speaker, it looks like it’s Joan Dillas -Wright who needs to be muted.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker No. That’s me. That’s me. I’m not Joan Dillas -Wright, but I’m using her . . . [Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are not her tonight?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker No. I’m not her tonight. [Crosstalk]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, Mr. Wade. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Jason Wade Can I continue, Mr. Deputy Speaker?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, MP.
Mr. Jason Wade Thank you, sir. So, let’s talk about the 70/30. My colleague, Minister Hayward, talked about the 70 per cent Bermudians minimum who will be working up at South P and the 30 per cent of others who will be coming in and working at that establishment. Let's be real. Where …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker! Point of order. Po int of order.
Mr. Jason Wade —and they do not want our consti tuents to be making money from this deal.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker One second, Mr. Wade. There is a point of order. What is your point of order, Ms. Jackson.? POINT OF ORDER
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Yes. There are residential dormitories that are allocated within the Fairmont Southampton, and most of the staff that are from overseas are living in dorm itories either at the hotel or at numerous sites around the Island.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Well, that is what the Member said—
Ms. Susan E. Jackson They are not private. They are the dormitory residences of the Fairmont Sout hampton.
Mr. Jason Wade So I am assuming, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that the Member knows for a fact that no residents, no workers, will be staying in any of the apartments close to the hotel . She—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, MP. Go on .
Mr. Jason Wade Thank you, sir. I apologi se. So, let’s talk about the types of jobs that will benefit. I always like to give examples. As a former teacher, I like to give examples for the stories and for my points that I am making. I know of truck drivers who . …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. Wade. The next speaker is Mr. D e Silva. Zane De Silva, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, let me start like this. No hotel equals no taxes and no jobs. Simple. Plain …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Point of order. Point of order. Point of order. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Here we go.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, MP Jackson? POINT OF ORDER
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Another six months to get a good deal!
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That is not a point of order. Mr. De Silva, continue. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. See? Those are the idiotic comments we get, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Right? I am going to repeat: Another six months to get a good deal? We have been …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member De Silva. Are there any other persons who wish to speak? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Madam Speaker, are the O pposition going to speak? Certainly . . ..
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Well, I am trying to give opportunity to— Hon. Walter H. Roban: I mean we are having a d ebate.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I don’t want it to be said that — Hon. Walter H. Roban: Let’s get an early night.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker —we are not including them. I am just looking to see who is — Hon. Walter H. Roban: You have an Opposition in this House. It is a democracy. I thought they would have something to say. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Is that the Leader of the Opposition? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: It is.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I want the Parliament to know that the Deputy Premier does not define the Opposition strategy. So, he can wait until we are ready to speak.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. And I do not think that he was intendi ng to do that. I think he was just trying to be courteous and allow anyone . . . because we do know that our numbers are vast in the House. So, he was probably just trying …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Is that the Deputy Leader? [Do] you wish to speak Deputy Leader? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I will. But I think this is also about democracy and less about strategy. Those who wish to have opposing views on matters of the Go vernment should b e prepared to speak on …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Minister, you have the floor. And the clock is now tic king. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. Yes, Madam Acting Speaker , we have had a very interesting debate today. And I wish to thank, certainly, the Government speakers who have spoken up so far, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Deputy Leader, Mr. Roban. Are there any further speakers? There are no further speakers? Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Deputy Speaker, if there are no other speakers, I am more than willing to wrap this up and go to Committee.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You can. Go right ahead, Mi nister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Okay. Firstly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to clarify something that was said by the first speaker after me and maybe repeated later on by another speaker. What I did not say is anyone who questions this Bill is …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue. 1300 6 May 2022 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Vance Campbell: This is from my S tatement: “[B]ut I wish to make it clear that an argument about government sacrifice of revenue and that being a flaw of this Bill and this Government’s approach is …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I’m sorry. Can you repeat that, Minister? I am so sorry. Hon. Vance Campbell: I said with those closing comments, I move that the Bill be committed. The Deputy Spea ker: Yes. Thank you. My apologies again. The House will resolve in Committee of the whole. And we ask the …
The Chairman Chairman Good evening, Members. We are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Fairmont Southampton Hotel Act 2022 . Let me ask the Minister and continue. Hon. Vance Campbell: Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: This is my first time doing this so if I —
The Chairman Chairman Take your time, Minister. That’s okay. Hon. Vance Campbell: If I do not get the exact wor ding right . . . I believe now I am to move clauses.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Vance Campbell: It is not a very long Bill, so I would like to move clauses 1 through 7.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. It has been moved that clauses 1 through 7 be spoken to. Do the Members approve? Minister, continue. Hon. Vance Campbell: Madam Chairman, clause 1 is self-explanatory. Clause 2 sets out definitions used in the Bill. The “hotel redevelopment” is defined as meaning the Fairmont Southampton Hotel redevelopment, inclu …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry. I just reali sed I was on mute. Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to clauses 1 through 7?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Madam Chairman. MP Pearman.
The Chairman Chairman MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Sc ott Pearman Thank you, Madam Chairman. I did not speak in the debate. So, let me commence here and now what I am speaking by d eclaring my interest. I am a partner of the law firm C onyers Dill & Pearman who are the attorneys for the developers in this cas …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. 1302 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any other Members who wish to speak? Or Minister , do you wish to reply? Hon. Vance Campbell: Madam Chairman, I prefer to wait and get all the questions and answer them at …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Sure. I see the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, did you wish to speak to clauses 1 through 7?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Not the Opposition Leader. Shadow Tourism Minister.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. I do apologi se. Shadow Tourism Minister. Yes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Clause 3( c), where it mentions that “the hot el developer shall be entitled to the following relief —for a period commencing six years after the hotel’s opening date and ending on the fifteenth anniversary of the opening date, full exemption from land …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may since the Minister has indicated he would prefer to get all questions so he can answer them.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Under 4(1), terms and conditions, the Minister has stated here “ To qualify for the exemption from land tax [under section 3(1)(c)], the hotel developer shall, for the relevant period, confirm in writing to the Minister that in years six through fifteen at least 70% of the hotel’s staff …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member Are there any other Members who wish to speak? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman I recogni se the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I would like to direct you to the interpretations and again “hotel redevelopment. ” Hon. Vance Campbell: Madam Chairman, I cannot hear the speaker.
The Chairman Chairman Opposition Leader, do y ou have the microphone close to you? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I hear you. Can you hear me?
The Chairman Chairman I hear you, yes. Are you able to hear, Minister? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Vance Campbell: That’s better. That’s much better. Yes, thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: So, under the interpretation “[hotel] redevelopment ,” it reads “means the Fairmont Southampton Hotel redevelopment, including renov ation of the guest rooms, restaurants, bars, meeting rooms ,” (et cetera) “as described in the summary of works and …
The Chairman Chairman Continue Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: While on that same . . . on [clause] 3(1)(a), it says “for a period of fifteen years from the commencement of this Act, full relief from [customs] duty in respect of any building materials, furnishings, fixtures and equipment which are necessary …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. I was going to ask you to ask the question because I was not sure what specifically your question was. But thank you. You did that. Hon. N. H. Cole S imons: Okay. The second question I am just going to pigg yback on the Minister of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Opposition Leader. Are there any other Members w ho wish to ask questions on clauses 1 through 7?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Madam Chairman. MP Richardson.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. MP Richardson. You have the floor. I don’t see you. Thank you.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Just a question for the Honourable Minister as it relates to clause 2. I know my h onourable colleague has already raised a question on it. But I would like to ask the Minister: When would he anticipate circulating the summary of works and the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Richardson. Is that it? Thank you. Do any other Members have questions on clauses 1 through 7?
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Madam Chairman, I have a question or two.
The Chairman Chairman MP Dickinson, you have the floor.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Minister [INAUDIBLE ], clause 4(1) speaks to at least 70 per cent of the hotel staff being Bermudian. Does the Ministry have a measurement period over which the 70 per cent is to be determined? 1304 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member Dickinson. Do any other Members have questions on clauses 1 through 7? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Madam Chairman. I would like to . . .
The Chairman Chairman Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I have some more questions. I am just thinking about —
The Chairman Chairman For some reason I am not seeing you. Can you turn on your camera, please? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I am going back to [clause] 3, custom s duty and tax relief. Can the Minister pr ovide an estimate of the quantum value of each of the items listed in the customs duty relief, items (a), (b), and (c)? We are …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Thank you, Opposition Leader. The screen just disappeared for one second. Are there any other Members who wi sh to ask questions on clauses 1 through 7?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Is that MP Kim Swan?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Madam Chairman. I have three questions.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. You have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Ki m) E. Swan One question is: How many jobs would be created if this deal were shelved for six months? How many jobs would be created in that six -month period? The other question I have is: What would be the value of all the concessions if this deal is not consummated in …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member Swan. Do any other Members have any questions on clauses 1 through 7? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Chairman Chairman Is that MP Zane De Silva? It sounds like him, but I don’t see him. MP De Silva, can you turn on your camera? And you do have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I would like to ask the Mi nister: Does he think that delaying this …
The Chairman Chairman MP De Silva, which clause are you speaking to? Hon. Za ne J. S. De Silva: I am speaking to the third clause.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Does the Minister think that a delay with this project will benefit our people? Or does he think that it has to be put through now in order to kick -start this economy? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Madam Chairman, how does …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Opposition Leader. Would you like to clarify your question, MP De Silva? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Sure. Sure, I would.
The Chairman Chairman And make the connection for the Members. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Sure. If we do not have any concessions, we do not have any hotels opening and we do not have any jobs for our people. It’s very simple.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, just a point of order.
The Chairman Chairman What is your point of order? Who is speaking?
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson This is MP Dickinson.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. MP Dickinson, your point of order. Go ahead. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson I believe MP De Silva may be inadvertently misleading the House. Madam Chairman, the existing legislation currently provides for concessions. What is being s ought here is an extension of the existing regime. So, if nothing was done with respect to this legislation for six months, the existing legislation that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Dickinson MP De Silva, you — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I would like to reply. See, that is where the [former] Finance Minister is out to lunch. Because quite frankly —
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Madam Chai rman. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —the developer has already stated that if he does not —
Mr. Scott P earman Point of order.
The Chairman Chairman MP De Silva. There is a point of order on the floor.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We are in Committee.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Unparliamentary language]
Mr. Scott Pearman Point o f order, Madam Chai rman. MP Zane De Silva is using unparliamentary language. And it is simply not appropriate. Moreover, he spoke in the debate. This is a matter for Commi ttee. He should not just spout off what he wants to. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you for your point of order. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to clauses 1 through 7? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Madam Chairman. I am not finished.
The Chairman Chairman Well, your camera is off MP De Silva. I thought you were gone. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am not going anywhere. Let me just state—
The Chairman Chairman Are you speaking to the clauses, MP De Silva? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am speaking to clause 3 again.
The Chairman Chairman You cannot go back to general debate. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Clause 3, on page two.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: In fact, we can talk to clause 3(1)(a) and clause 3(1)(b).
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. I will vehemently disagree with anyone.
The Chairman Chairman Just put your question to me. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: My question is: Does the Minister think that if this clause 3(1)(a) and (b) are not given to the developers that they will even start the project at all? So, whether it is one year, two y ears …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you, MP De Silva. I hope that clarifies matters. 1306 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any other Members who wish to speak to clauses 1 through 7? There are no other Member s. Minister, do you have answers for the …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, could you have the camera turned on please? The camera is off. Hon. Vanc e Campbell: My apologies.
The Chairman Chairman That’s okay. Hon. Vance Campbell: In regard to the question in clause 2, under “ ‘hotel redevelopment’ means ,” there was some question of guest rooms. We do have an inspection team who will inspect, do their job. And what meets the definition that is included in this clause will …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of clarification, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman There is a point of clarification on the floor. Minister, do you yield? Hon. Van ce Campbell: Yes, I do. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Madam Chairman. Thank you, Minister. You referred to a definition of “ guest room. ” Where is that definition to be found? Hon. Vance Campbell: It says “ ‘hotel redevelopment’ means the Fairmont Southampton Hotel redevelopment, including renovation of the guest rooms .” So that is a room …
Mr. Scott Pearman Honourable Minister, how is Parliament to know what is not a guest room?
The Chairman Chairman Could you repeat?
Mr. Sc ott Pearman Thank you, Madam Chairman. How is Parliament to know what is , and what is not , a guest room? [Crosstalk] Hon. Vance Campbell: We have all stayed in a hotel. It is a room that is fitted out with a bed, a bathroom, and it is where guests will …
Mr. Scott Pearman So, does it or does it not include the additional condos? That was the original question. Hon. Vance Campbell: If it is a room that is available for guests to stay in who are staying at the hotel, then the team will evaluate whether or not it falls under the …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, that may be silent in the Act, but I think you have said that if . . . I think what you are saying is that if the accommodation is being used as a guest accommodation for tourists, then it will fall under the regulations that govern it. I …
The Chairman Chairman Opposition L eader, I have not recognised you. And you do not have your camera on. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Sorry. So —
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hold on. Minister, do you yield to the Opposition Leader? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: He said yes.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: So, my question is: If the agreement is already dated, are you saying it is not fully executed at this time? First question. And if it is not fully executed, then I accept what you are saying. But if it is fully …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Thank you. Continue, Mini ster. Hon. Vance Campbell: There was a question around what items would be subject to the relief. I believe this was on [clause] 3(1)(a). And it is only those items that are listed under clause 3(1)(a) that will be subject to the relief. There was …
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, MP Dickinson.
Mr. Curtis L. Dickinson I think the Minister is a ttempting to answer my question. I guess, Minister, my question was we set a 70 per cent target of threshold. There has to be, I am almost certain, a period of time over which you are measuring date one to date . . . …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP . Minister. Is that Minister De Silva? Not De Silva. Sorry. Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Just as a point of clarific ation— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: He ain’t that good looking.
The Chairman Chairman Do you yield to the Minister for his point of clarification? Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes, I do, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Continue Minister Hayward. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Jason Hayward: As for most, Southampton Princess has more than 10 employees. They are mandated by law to complete the annual Em ployment Survey submission. Now, that submission is done at a time period where it takes into account seasonality. So, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Minister Campbell. 1308 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Vance Campbell: I appreciate the clarification from the Minister and hopefully that answers the ques-tion that was asked. There was a question around the delay and how I felt about that. You …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Continue. Or is there any other person who — Hon. Vance Campbell: I’m going through now to see if the re are any questions that I have not answered. I believe there was one around the breakdown of the concessions. What I will do is I will …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Opposition Leader . Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: There was one other question that I am waiting for a response to. And that is the 15-year concession period. Given that we have other large investors on the horizon, will the 15- year co ncession period be the PLP’s standard …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who have questions for the Minister?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Shadow Minister. You h ave the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I did not get an answer. At least I did not hear it for clause 3(c) for a period commencing six years. I wanted to know concerning land tax. Up until that six years, is anything being paid? Are there any concessions that are being given to that already? We …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who have questions for the Minister? Minister, you have two questions before you. Hon. Vance Campbell: Madam Chairman, I did answer the q uestion. They will be paying the land tax years one to five. I did answer that. I’m sorry if …
The Chairman Chairman He did say he did not get it. Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes, I don’t mind repeating.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Vance Camp bell: And as it relates to what the future will look like, I did in my brief indicate that we are looking at the Tourism Investment Act [2017]. I am not going to preclude what the amendments might be. However, if we receive any applications, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other questions on clauses 1 through 7?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Madam Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Who is asking the question?
Mr. Jarion Richardson MP Richardson, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman MP Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson If the Honourable Minister would let us k now when the site plan would be circulated . [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, did you want to repeat your answer? Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes, I did make a commi tment to present it to the House as soon as possible. And I think that is the thir d time that I have mentioned that.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other questions for the Minister on clauses 1 through 7? There are no other questions for the Minister on clauses 1 through 7? Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Madam Chairman, I move that the . . . I believe I move here that the clauses be …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. It has been moved that clauses 1 through 7 be approved. Are there any objections? There are no objections. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 7 passed. ] Hon. Vance Campbell: Madam Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections? No objections. Approved. Hon. Vance Campbell: Madam Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections? Agreed. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. [Motion carried: The Fairmont Southampton Hotel Act 2022 was considered …
The Chairman Chairman I call on the [Deputy] Speaker. House resumed at 5:46 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Deputy Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE FAIRMONT SOUTHAMPTON HOTEL ACT 2022
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Madam Chairman. Are there any objections to the Bill being approved? No objections. Approved. The next order of b usiness . . . There is no more business on the agenda. We will get the third readings . Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Vance Campbell: I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill ent itled Fairmont Southampton Hotel Act 2022.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Are there any objections to that? Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING FAIRMONT SOUTHAMPTON HOTEL ACT 2022 Hon. Vance C ampbell: I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Are there any objections to the third reading? No objections. Approved. 1310 6 Ma y 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: Fairmont Southampton Hotel Act 2022 was given a third reading and passed.] Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: And thank you, colleagues.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker We are at the end the order of business.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Friday, May 20 at 10:00 am. And I believe that some of my Members may wish to speak on the motion to adjourn as some of them did not get to speak on the general …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That’s all right. Are there a ny speakers? Minister Diallo Rabain, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Wow! I didn’t even ask. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Deputy Spe aker: I saw you up. You’re up there, so you caught my eye. When you catch my …
Mr. Wayne Caines Good afternoon, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, thank you, Minister. The Speaker recognises the Honourable Member Wayne Ca ines. You have the floor, Mr. Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines Good afternoon, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good afternoon, sir. EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES IN TOURISM
Mr. Wayne Caines It is a privilege for me to speak this afternoon. I was in Huntsvi lle, Alabama for a graduation from local college and amongst the graduates was my niece. As I walked Bridge Street Mall this afternoon I was amazed by how many Bermudian families that I have seen. Mr. …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Deputy Speaker?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The Speaker recognises the Honourable Member Kim Swan. Mr. Swan, you have the floor. MP URGES UK GOVERNMENT TO TAKE SERIOUSLY THE MURDERS HAPPE NING IN BE RMUDA
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I start off my contribution on the motion to adjourn this evening on a bit of a sombre note to start off with because we have had some deaths in our community, in the same area. And while some are under investigation, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Swan, you are breaking up. I do not know what has happened. W e cannot hear you wholly. Honourable Member Swan? Mr. Swan?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I spent quite a bit of time . . . in that constituency —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Swan? Honourable Member Swan? Honourable Member Swan? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deput y Speaker, if I could make a suggestion? If the Honourable Member turns off his camera, because it seems his connection is bad, but I am not sure if he can hear you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: [If we tell him] to turn off his camera and then we might be able to hear him.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Honourable Member Swan?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Can you hear me better now, Mr. Deputy Speaker?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, yes, we hear you now.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Oh, thank you. I was speaking about when I —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Just leave your camera off.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I am going to move to a slightly different location which might give me a better connection. When I met the Honourable Member Michael Weeks, it was during the time period, Mr. Deputy Speaker, when the gang violence was taking hold. I spent a lot of time in the …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And yes, I am going to send these comments around the world to people I know in Europe that deal with human rights, and the United Nations that deal with human rights, because our country, our social fabric is being ripped asunder! Our people are fleeing our country! Exodus! You …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Member, you have fiv e minutes. Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: Oh, five minutes. I am getting better. I asked when I have only got five and not one! The National Tourism Strategy, the National Tourism Plan has spelled its name Agility . And you know, one of those is …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Member, I think you mean ai rplanes. Hotels do not fly.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan If you do not have people flying to the country in airplanes to put people in the hotel beds, but you have got to have some beds for the people to want to make a decision to fly to Berm uda! And when you have sufficient beds to do so, …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker And that is fine, Premier. I will just put out one more call just in case someone did not hear. Are there any other members who wish to speak on the motion to adjourn? If there are not, the Premier will close us out with his comments on motion to …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Premier, I lost you. I lost your . . . I cannot hear you. Hon. E. David Burt: Am I back now?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, you are. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay. I am so sorry. What was the last thing you heard, Madam Acting Speaker? The Acting Speaker: You started to say mothers something— Hon. E. David Burt: Did you hear me recognise you as a mother?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker We are superheroes, I know that! Hon. E. David Burt: No question and certainly, you know, I got to see the superhero power because Kri stin went away for a few days and my mother came over to assist with my young children. And the fact is that it was …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, thank you Mr. Premier, and I would like to end by extending Happy Mother’s Day on behalf of the Deputy Speaker, Mr. Derrick Burgess, and myself. As I said, we know the stellar work that we do, us mothers, and I wish everyone, every mother and more importantly, every …
Mr. Christopher Famous Happy Grandmother’s Day, Madam Whip.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Happy Mother’s Day all. [At 6:41 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 20 May 2022.]
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