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Senate Session 2021/2022 86 speeches

March 23, 2022

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Session Summary

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The Senate debated the Government's 2022/23 budget, which projects $1.08 billion in revenue and a $70 million deficit. Junior Minister Hodgson announced that the Government rejected recommended fuel price increases for March, freezing gas and diesel prices temporarily to provide cost of living relief. The Opposition raised concerns about the $3.35 billion government debt, arguing it costs taxpayers $133 million annually in interest payments alone. Several routine regulations and reports were also presented.

Chamber Senate
Date Mar 23, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 7
Speeches 86

Key Topics

2022/23 Government Budget debate and spending estimatesFuel price freeze announcement to help with cost of livingGovernment debt concerns and their impact on taxpayersVarious regulations related to COVID-19, aircraft fees, and pensionsAnnual reports from Youth Culture & Sport and Information Commissioner

Bills & Motions

Appropriation Act 2022 - began second reading (budget debate ongoing)
Multiple bills received first reading: Investment Business Amendment Act 2022, Municipalities Amendment Acts, Payroll Tax Amendment Act 2022, Motor Car Amendment Act 2022, and others
Various draft regulations presented for future approval including aircraft fees, government fees, pension scheme changes, and COVID-19 emergency extensions

Notable Moments

Opposition Senator De Couto calculated that debt interest costs the average family $149 per year just in gasoline taxes, calling the debt "a millstone around the neck of this Island"
The Government highlighted budget relief measures including 10% reduction in car license fees, payroll tax cuts for those earning under $96,000, and extended unemployment benefits
Junior Minister Hodgson had to defer answering technical questions about fuel pricing, promising responses later in the session

Debate Transcript

86 speeches from 7 speakers
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam President, and good morning to you and to the entire Senate Chamber. YOUTH CULTURE AND SPORT YEAR END REVIEW 2021/22
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam President, I hereby present for the information of the Senate a report entitled Youth, Culture and Sport, Year End Review 2021/22. Thank you, Madam President 164 23 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate The President: Thank you, Minister Peets. The second one is in t he name of …
Sen. Rev. Dr. Emilygail Dill Madam President, I hereby present for the consideration of Senate, the draft Regulations entitled the Mortgaging of Aircraft and Aircraft Engines (Fees) Amendment Regulations 2022, proposed t o be made by the Minister of Transport under the power conferred by section 7(1)(b) of the Mortgaging of Aircraft and Aircraft E …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President, and thank you Junior Minister for that Statement. I second my colleague’s support for an ything that can reduce the burden on families and the people in Bermuda. I noticed that because, of course, we are storing this cheaper gasoline, that the price increases are not …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto My second question is, my understanding is that the government tax is 55 cents per litre, or about $2.00 per gallon, did the Government consider de creasing that tax? That would have the advantage, I believe, of taking a slice out of the fuel cost to the people that would …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto The third part of my question is, My understanding is that about 13 per cent of Government taxes go to paying down the Government debt. By my calculations that is about 26 cents per gallon. Has the Government thought about how the overall reduction of the debt could be applied …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank yo u, Madam President. And thank you to the Junior Minister for her presentation. I look forward to discussing the finer points in more detail later on. Let me first say how honoured I am to be here today. As you know I am jumping in at the deep …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes, Thank you, Madam President. I certainly also want to thank the Junior Mini ster for her presentation this morning. I certai nly have enjoyed listening to the early discussions today r egarding a very, very important subject matter. Of course, there will be a time later on, Madam President …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Madam President, the Senator is incorrect. I wish he would repeat his Statement and correct it as to the party which I represent and make an apology. Because I believe he has made that statement with intent. The President: Senator Darrell. Sen. Owen Darrell: I do apologise, Madam President, I …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Point of information. That is an incorrect statement. And I am taking offence to the Senator’s repeated —repeated— misstatements which I know he is making on purpose for rhetorical and political effect, and I would request politely that he straighten out his memory because I am the OBA Senator and …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto My apologies. Sen. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Madam President. I say again, I find it disingenuous that Senator De Couto in his remarks would mention signs around the Island when that is not what I notice when I go around the Island. What I see are young Bermudians, and, I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam President. Senators, we are in Committee of the Whole [Senate] for further consideration of the Appropriation Act [2022] together with the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the financial year [2022/23]. The Ministry under consideration is the Mini stry of Youth, Culture and Sport. The Heads for …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that the Committee do now take under consideration Head 71, Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport Headquar ters; and Head 20, Youth, Sport and Recreation.
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed, Minister Peets. MINISTRY OF YOUTH, CULTURE AND SPORT
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I am pleased today to present the financial year 2022/23 Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport, which can be found starting on page B -242 of our Estimates Book. Madam Chairman, I will briefly discuss the Ministry …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, next year my Ministry intends to continue to develop and celebrate our people through a variety of initi atives. In keeping with the 2021 Throne Speech t heme of economic recovery and social renewal, the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport recognises the value of sport to our …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, I now turn to the current account expenditure for Head 71, the Ministry Headquarters. Madam Chairman, the financial year 2022/23 estimates of expenditure and revenue for Head 71, the Ministry Headquarters, are found on pages B -243 to B-245 of the Estimates Book. Page B -243 shows that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Peets. Please proceed to Head 20. HEAD 20 —DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH, SPORT AND RECREATION
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam Chairman. Head 20, Madam Chairman, is Youth, Sport and Recreation. I will now present the fiscal year 2022/23 estimates of expenditure and revenue for Head 20, the Department of Youth, Sport and Recrea-tion, which can be found on pages B -246 through B - 251 of the …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the objectives for 2022/23 are as follows: • provide funding/support for the National Sport Governing Bodies (known as NSGBs); • provide funding support for the National Youth Organising Bodies (or NYOBs); • manage and maintain government sports and recreation facilities; • provide af ter school programmes for school …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the budget allocation of business unit 30045, General Administration is $841,437, a decrease of 3 per cent, or $28,795, from the previous allocation of $870,232. Madam Chairman, the allocated funds provide for the administration and operations of the Depar tment of Youth, Sport and Recreation Headquarters, which is …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the sport development programme is operated through business unit 30055, [Sports Programme]. The budget allocation is $418,475, a decrease of $1,436,500, or a 77 per cent reduction. This decrease is because some of the funds have been re- allocated to a new dedicated [business unit], 30065, Sports I …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the estimate for business unit 30030, Athletic Awards, is $160,000. This represents an increase of $81,250 over the 2021/22 budget, which was $79,750. This increase facilitates the re- establishment of the Annual Sports Awards and the National Junior Athlete Sponsorship Programme Awards , because during the pr evious …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the budget estimate for business unit 30060, Sports Facilities Administration, is $1,313,069, a decrease of $2,325 below the previous estimate for 2021/22. Madam Chairman, the budget estimate for business unit 30060 primarily comprises funding for the Natio nal Sports Centre, which is $1,100,000. There is no change from …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the allocated budget for fiscal year 2022/23 of $415,306 is for two of the business units under the Youth Development Programme. Youth Development Administration, business unit 30210, has a budget allocation of $315,306, a decrease of $1,000 from the [2020/21] budget. Madam Chairman, the allocated budget for business …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. E rnest Peets Madam Chairman, the budget allocation for three our community centres under the department’s remit is $1,447,856. There is no change from the previous 2021/22 budget. The community centres’ full -time equivalent count is 19 for fiscal year 2022 /23. These staff facilitate a wide range of programming for seniors, adults …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the budget allocation for the Department’s Camping Programme is $982,000, a decrease of $72,000. This was achieved by eliminating overtime. This will result in a small reduction in the hours of access to the i slands by the public, but it was deemed necessary in the context of …
The Chairman Chairman With pleasure. It is now 3:21 and the debate will end at 4:34, so you have roughly one hour and 15 minutes.
Madam Chairman. The Chairman Chairman And you did indicate earlier that you would speak for one hour and a half, allowing a half an hour for the debate.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you. I am not sure how many miles I have put on my speech today, but I w ill quickly get through these last few pages of presentation so that we can enjoy a robust debate.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. I will just remind the li stening audience that we are in Committee of the whole [Senate] for further consideration of the Appr opriation Act 2022 together with the Estimates of Re venue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. The Mi nistry we have under consideration at present …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam President.
The Chairman Chairman Chairman.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam Chairman. It is a bit tiring at the moment, but that’s okay. Thank you, I really appreciate the correction. Programme 2008— School -Age Activities/ Summer Day Camps
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the budget allocation for the Summer Day Camp Pr ogramme is $750,600, an increase of $18,050, or 2 per cent increase. Madam Chairman, this programme supports approximately 1,500 school -aged children and is provided in various schools throughout the I sland. Approximately 130 part -time work ers deliver …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. E rnest Peets Madam Chairman, the After School Programmes budget allocation pr ovides for staffing, communications, materials and su pplies for 14 programmes . The budget allocation for business unit 30125, After School Programmes, for fiscal year 2022/23 is $1,188,350, a decrease of $5,000. The programme supports approximately 450 primary and middle school …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, the performance measures for the Department of Youth, Sport and Recreation can be found on pages B-250 and B -251. For business unit 30030, Athletic Awards, the intended target for 20 junior athletes to [receive] financial support to develop skills in their chosen sport could not be met …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator, Minister Peets. Would any Senator wish to speak on these heads? Senator Ben Smith. Sen. Ben Smith: Thank you, Madam Chairman. First, I would like to thank the Minister for his brief this afternoon. Minister Peets and I have had several opportunities to talk about sports since …
The Chairman Chairman You are referring to Head 20, I believe. Bermuda Senate Sen. Ben Smith: Sorry, Head 20. I apologise. Yes, Head 20, under general administration, 30045. The Minister has given us what the estimate is for 2022/23 —of $841[,000]. Just looking at what the actual was in 2021, which was $1,367,000, …
The Chairman Chairman I was going to suggest that, Senator Smith. Thank you very much. Because we have roughly 33 minutes left in this debate. Minister Peets, would you like to start answering the questions? But before you do, is there any other Senator who would like to speak to these heads? Senator, …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam Chairman. I really wanted to echo my colleague’s comments. I can see that the Minister has worked hard to control the cost and deliver the services in an ex-tremely difficult environment and, frankly, with not a lot to work with. And I do want to echo the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator De Couto. Minister Peets, back to you, sir.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam Chairman. Thank you, Senator Ben for your comments. Senator Ben is correct. We have had opportunity from time to time to chat. And I certainly enjoyed those conversations because we certainly share a very, very similar passion for our athletes, particularly those that are coming through our …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Thank you, Minister Peets. Senator Smith, please continue. Sen. Ben Smith: Yes. Thank you. And thank you for the answers that we have received so far from the Minister. Minister, just adding a couple of other quick questions that came to me as you were giving your answers. On …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Smith. Minister Peets.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just going back just a few questions to the Senator’s question about the National Sport Centre in relation to the funding for that, particularly as it rela tes to their issues with the budget. I think the question was around the savings. The average thereabouts for …
The Chairman Chairman Chairman.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you. We have been doing this so long . . . It is either by force of habit and/or . . . So, I will just wrap that last little part up stating that the Ministry is very inter ested in developing a programme to support the athletes and …
The Chairman Chairman We have two minutes left. I do not know if there is anyone else who has a question or would like to participate in the debate . . . other wise, Minister Peets.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets I also want to thank our new Senator for his c omments earlier. He is right. We wish we would have had more money. And if we did, we certainly would have given it to the sporting community for their use and for their betterment. But hopefully, in years to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Minister Peets, would you like to move the heads now?
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes, Madam Chai rman. I move that Heads 71 and 20 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? There is no objection. These heads are so moved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport, Heads 71 and 20 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/2 3.]
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Peets. Thank you very, very much. We are now moving on to the next Ministry under consideration. As a reminder we are in Commi ttee as a whole for further consideration of the Appr opriation Act 2022 together with the Estimates of Re venue and Expenditure for …
The Chairman Chairman Now, I would just like to interject that it is now 4:26 and we have two hours for this debate, so we will conclude at 6:26. [Pause] MINISTRY OF FINANCE Sen. Arianna Hodgson: The Finance Ministry is comprised comprises six departments, led by the Mi nistry of Finance Headquarters, and …
The Chairman Chairman Senator Hodgson? Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Yes, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman I am just suggesting that you take a quick water break or something. Your voice must be tired. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: We have a bit to get through so I am trying to keep it going.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. We are half -way through the debate, and I was wondering how much more time you needed. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: I am not sure how long it will take but I do have a bit to get through.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. HEAD 12 —BERMUDA CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT REVENUE Sen. Arianna Hodgson: I will now speak to Bermuda Customs Department Revenue, which is included under the Ministry of Finance. Customs expenditures are included along with the Ministry of National Security which will …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Sen ator Hodgson. Would any other Senator wish to speak on these heads? Senator De Couto, you have the floor.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam Chairman. Could you perhaps refresh me as to the time remaining?
The Chairman Chairman It is now 6:14 and we c onclude this debate at 6:26. So you have about 12 minutes.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto All right. Thank you. Well, first of all I would like to thank the Junior Minister for that fulsome brief. I am not sure how we are going to get into our free and frank exchange and collaborative approach to looking into the Island’s problems, but I will do my …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator De Couto. Would any other Senator wish to ask a question? Senator John Wight, you have the floor. Sen. John Wight: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just a couple of quick questions. The first one relates to the Office of the Tax Commissioner. On page B -118, I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Wight. Is there any other Senator who wishes to ask a question of the Junior Minister of Finance? I don’t see any hands, so Senator Hodgson we are coming back to you for answers to the questions. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. I am …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Senator De Couto.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto May I ask a few more questions?
The Chairman Chairman You have another question that you would like to ask?
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Please go ahead.
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Page B -107, again, from the Auditor General’s report we know that 15 per cent of the people who received the unemployment benefit were overpaid [and] 20 per cent of financial assistance recipients were incorrectly receiving two benefi ts. What are the processes and controls to ensure collection of that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator De Couto. Are there any other questions? Would any other Senator like to ask a question of the Junior Mi nister of Finance? [No audible reply]
The Chairman Chairman Okay. We will just wait for the answers from Senator Hodgson. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Senator De Couto, you have another question?
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto It is related to the overall budget process, but since we are in the Ministry of Bermuda Senate Finance this is clearly an immense amount of work, both literally, how heavy it is, and conceptually. Now that it is 2022, I wonder if this sort of infor mation might be …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you for your question. We only have a minute left in this debate. So it most likely that we will have to ask Senator Hodgson if she can supply the answers in written form, unless she has some answers now. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Madam Chairman, I do apologise because …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you, Senator Hodgson. Since the time for this debate has expired, I am going to ask if you would be kind enough to submit the answers in writing once you have them. Would that be possible? Sen. Arianna Hodgson: I will seek t o have the answers to …
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection. So moved. [Motion carried: the Ministry of Finance Heads 10, 11, 12, 28, 38, 39 and 58 were approved and stand part of the Es timates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2022/23] Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chai …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Now I am going to ask either Minister Peets or Senator Hodgson if you would take us out of Commi ttee. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Yes, I will Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move that the Committee rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection to that motion? No objection; so moved. Sen. Arianna Hodgson: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. The Ch airman: Madam President, back to you. [Pause] Senate resumed at 6:28 pm [Sen. the Hon. Joan E. Dillas -Wright, President, pr esiding] REPORT OF COMMITTEE APPROPRIATION ACT 2022 ESTIMATES …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I too would lik e to be associated with the comments by Senator Simmons. I am not sure of the right form of this but I would also like to extend my congratulations to Sebastian Kempe for his gold medal at the Youth Sailing World Championships. …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets I move that we adjourn until tomorrow, [Thursday] the 24th of March. The President: Would any Senator care to speak on the motion to adjourn? Senator Ben Smith, you have the floor. MASK WEARING IN SCHOOLS Sen. Ben Smith: Yes, and thank you, Madam Pres ident. I would also like …
Sen. Dr. Douglas De Couto Thank you, Madam President. I am sitting here reflecting upon my day and actually it is a very moving ending, and I thank Sen ator Simmons for that important remi nder. I talked earlier today about forthrightness and I talked about being here to challenge the Gover nment. It is …
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