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House of Assembly Session 2021/2022 219 speeches

March 18, 2022

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Session Summary

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The Premier announced he rejected recommended fuel price increases for March (which would have been 5% for gas and 6.7% for diesel) and ordered a review to potentially reduce prices next month. The Deputy Premier reported overwhelming public support (75%) for regulating single-use plastics and outlined next steps including business consultations. The Social Development Minister introduced a bill to replace the Child Care Placement Board with a Children In-Care Advisory Council that would give children in care more voice in decisions affecting them.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 18, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 11
Speeches 219

Key Topics

Fuel price freeze announced by Premier to help with rising gas costsNew regulations for single-use plastics based on public consultation resultsChildren Amendment Act 2022 introduced to replace Child Care Placement BoardEducation reform update on capturing Bermuda's educational history

Bills & Motions

Children Amendment Act 2022 - introduced for first reading (will modernize oversight of children in care and create advisory council)
Two sets of regulatory authority fee regulations presented by Deputy Premier for electricity and telecommunications sectors
House resumed Committee of Supply to continue budget debate on Ministry of Finance

Notable Moments

Premier emphasized this Government's commitment to "people-centred recovery" by listing numerous fee reductions and tax relief measures already implemented
Deputy Premier thanked businesses like Gibbons Company and Marketplace that have already started reducing single-use plastics voluntarily
Education Minister highlighted the passion shown by community members for preserving Bermuda's educational legacy

Debate Transcript

219 speeches from 11 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of 9 and 11 March have been circulated. Are there any amendments or corrections required? There are none. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, Minister R abain. I was logged on for both of those meetings, and I believe I am not listed as being present.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, thank you. The Minister has indicated his presence at both of those meetings , [but he] was omitted. We will make sure that the necessary amendment is made for both. So, Members, those two sets of Minutes will be confirmed with the necessary amendment. And the Minutes for 14 …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker We have two papers this [afternoon] . Both are in the name of the Minister of Home Affairs, the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, would you like to present your papers this [afternoon]? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker, and to Members of the House and the listening public. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you like to do your second one? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS (REGULATORY AUTHORITY FEES) REGULATIONS 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Constitution I have the honour to attach and …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUN IOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker This afternoon we four Statements. The first Statement is in the name of the Premier and Minister of Finance. Premier, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, I would, thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to you and good after-noon to colleagues, and good …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The next Statement for this [afternoon] is from the Minister of Home Affairs, the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, would you like to present your Statement this afternoon? REGULATING SINGLE -USE PLAST ICS IN BERMUDA: RESULTS FROM THE PUBLIC CONSULTATION AND THE NEXT STEPS Hon. Walter H. Roban: …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. Members, the next Statement is from the Mi nister of Social Development and Seniors. Minister Furbert, would you like to put your Statement now? TABLING A BILL ENTITLED CHILDREN AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Tin ee Furbert: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, t he next Statement is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister, would you like to present your Statement? UPDATE ON EDUCATION REFORM HISTORY AND LEGACY WORKING GROUP Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, an African Proverb says this “If we stand tall, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that brings us to the end of Stat ements for this afternoon. We will now move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. 958 18 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Members, there are no written questions, so the only questions will be based on the Statements that were given this afternoon. Members have indicated today that they have questions. MP Jackson would like to put a question to the Minister of Social Development. MP Jackson, would you like to put …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you and good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. My question to the Minister is: I am curious as to whether this Child Advisory Commission will work independent of the Director and then the Director would be ex -officio . . . I am just trying to get a feel for where …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert. [No audible reply]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert. [No audible reply]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister of Social Injustice . . . Social Development . . . MP Jackson, you also had a question for the Minister of Education. I am going to ask you to put your question for the Minister of Educ ation and then implore another Minister to find the Mi …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Put your question to the Minister of Education and we will come back to the questions on the other Statement.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Good afternoon, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good afternoon. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON EDUCATION REFORM - HISTORY AND LEGACY WORKING GROUP
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am curious as to whether your vision is to create, at some point, an actual curriculum for the different levels of schooling in Bermuda and apprise them of the history that is going to be co llected. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you. That is a very topical …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I think I can add this as a supplementary, or a second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am curious as to whether the Working Group and then the Legacy Committee will be collaborating with the Depart ment of Culture. The reason I am asking that is because to have our own written history would be something that I see as a benefit to the community and …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Very exciting. Thank you, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No more questions.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, let’s go back to t he previous Statement for the Minister of Social Development. Do you want to put your question to the Mini ster?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. QUESTION 1: TABLING A BILL ENTITLED CHILDREN AMENDMENT ACT 2022
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good aft ernoon, Minister. My question is whether this Child Advisory Commission will be working independent of the Director? And if the Director is involved, it would be more ex officio? And if you would just confirm that for me.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, good afternoon. The Director will be ex officio.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I have a second question,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Second question, put your question. QUEST ION 2: TABLING A BILL ENTITLED CHILDREN AMENDMENT ACT 2022
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Minister, I am just wondering about the litigation guardians who also fall under your Ministry. Where will they fall in the Child Advisory Commission? Will they come under the remit or the superv ision of the Child Advisory Commission? Or will they remain a separate entity? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Will there be any connection between the two in any way, given that they would probably have at times t he same child? I am just cur ious what that relationship would be between the two, the Council and the litigation guardians.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the Children Act it clearly states what the responsibilitie s are of the litigation guardians. Litig ation guardians operate separately, independently. But if a child [has a view or opinion] in regard to litigation guardians they can share that information particularly …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I have a supplementary, but I am not sure it should not wait until we get closer to the actual debate on the Bill. But I am just . . . what if a child says one thing to the Commission and another to the litigation guardian. Would there be …
The Speaker The Speaker Hmm. Hon. Tinee Furbert: That is their reporting structure, to the court.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Tinee Furbert: I will be happy to do a separate meeting with that Member so she can have a better understanding of what lit igation guardians’ responsibi lities are and what their framework is.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Member, the Minister has offered at some point to brief you on more of the details of the Bill.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, all right. I will accept that, Mr. Speak er. 960 18 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Okay. Are there any further questions? Any suppl ementaries? There are none. This brings Question Period to a close. We now move on to the Congratulatory and/or …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTION FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF UR GENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There is one Government Bill to be i ntroduced today and this Bill is in the name of the Mi nister of Social Development. Minister, would you like to table your Bill? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. FIRST READING CHILDREN AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. There are no other Bills, no Opposition or Pr ivate Members’ [Bills]. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. So, Members and the listening audience, that now brings us to the Orders of the Day. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker And we start with resumption in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. Today, as always, there are eight hours set aside for the period of the Budget Debate. Today the first three hours are for the Ministry of …
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now resume in Committee of Supply to consider the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2022/23.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are no objections. The House is now turned over to the Committee of Supply under the able hands of MP Famous, Chairman. House in Committee at 1:5 1 pm [Mr. Christopher Famous, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR 2022/23 [Continuation thereof]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Members and listening public, we are now in resumption of the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. Today we will be debating the Ministry of Finance. The Honourable Premier will be leading that, and …
The Chairman Chairman So moved, Honourable Premier. MINISTRY OF FINANCE HEAD 10 —MINISTRY OF FINANCE HEADQUARTERS Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the 2022/23 budget estimates for the Ministry of Finance Headquarters, Head 10, may be found in section B of the Estimates Book on pages B …
The Chairman Chairman I did not quite hear that, Honourable Premier. Would you repeat that please? Hon. E. David Burt: I am happy to do that, Mr. Chairman. Mr. C hairman, it should be noted that since Budget Day it is projected that this deficit will narrow further by another $5 million due …
The Chairman Chairman One minute, Mr. Premier. Member, speak to the Chair first, and not to the Minister. I think you understand that. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Shall I proceed, Mr. Chairman?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, please proceed, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, the Commission’s projected t otal revenue for the year is $2,050,000 which consists of a government grant of $700,000 and regulatory fees of $1.35 million. The Commission’s total budget expenses f or the year are $2,045,000, consisting …
The Chairman Chairman I am going to pause you for a m oment, Mr. Premier. 970 18 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: You are so kind. I will ask to be excused for a matter of personal privilege at the same time. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Just as a matter of housekeeping, Honourable Members if you wis h to speak to a Minister you have to go through the Chairman first, and not simply butt in and speak directly to the Minister in that regard. For the listening public, Honourable Members, we are now in …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Honourable Premier, you can now proceed with Head 11. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, moving on to Head 11. HEAD 11 —ACCOUNTANT GENERAL Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, it is my pleasure to present the budget for Head 11, the Accountant …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Pre mier, that will be more civil servant ingenuity, correct? Hon. E. David Burt: Absolutely, Mr. Chairman. The 2022/23 capital allocation will be used to progress the following projects: • completion of the HRIMS, or human r esources information management sys tem i nterface; • development of the application …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may proceed, Premier. HEAD 12 —BERMUDA CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT REVENUE Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I will now speak to Head 12, which is Bermuda Customs Department Revenue, which is included under the Ministry of Finance. Customs expenditures are included along with the Ministry of National …
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed, Mr. Premier. HEAD 28 —SOCIAL INSURANCE DEPARTMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I will now move to the Depar tment of Social Insurance, Head 28, which can be found on page B -115 of the Estimates Book. The Director of Social Insurance along with …
The Chairman Chairman No, Honourable Premier, we will do station ID in approximately 20- some minutes when I hand over to the next Chairman. You may proceed with Head 38, Premier. HEAD 38 —OFFICE OF THE TAX COMMISSIONER Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, Head 38, is …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, y ou may proceed to Head 39, Honourable Premi er. HEAD 39 —REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I now present the budget for Head 39 the Registrar of Companies which is found on pages B -122 to B -125 of the …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Premier, may I pause you for a minute please? Hon. E. David Burt: You may, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members and the liste ning public we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of Estimates of Revenue and Expend iture for the year 2022/23. The Honourable Premier, who serves as the Minister of Finance, is giving his brief on the Ministry of Finance. He has covered Heads, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister, you m ay proceed when you are ready. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I now refer you to page B - 123. As a result of planned restructuring there is a decrease of $206,000 in salary -related costs. …
The Chairman Chairman Excuse me, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Have you moved back to the B pa ges, or are you still on C -11? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt My sincere apologies. I am now back to the B pages.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt I have completed the current account stuff. I am so sorry, Madam Chai rman. I am back to the B pages now, speaking about the major achievements that were achieved in fiscal 2021/22 and moving on to compliance for the upcoming year.
The Chairman Chairman I got you. Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt My sincere apologies. Madam Chai rman, moving on to plans for the upcoming year, the department has now become a bona fide regulator, having evolved from its primary purpose of being a repository for cor porate filings. I nternational pressures being …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. If I may just take a moment to remind Members and the listening public that we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. This afternoon we have been listening to the Premier and Minister of …
The Chairman Chairman Oh, sorry. It is three hours. Apologies. So, 4:53. And Opposition Leader, please proceed. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. I would like to take up where the Finance Mi nister left off in regard to the debt and loan guarantee. For the Bermuda Hospitals Board, which went from …
The Chairman Chairman If you can also just give us the line item. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I will be happy to. The OECD common reporting. That is line item 76867, OECD common reporting, and that is capital acquis itions. And so [the Honourable Minister] basically said, if I remember correctly, these …
The Chairman Chairman Page? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Page B-109, for the admi nistration line item 21020, Contributory Pension. I note that they gave the value of the assets. In 2019, the value of the assets of $1.95 billion. In 2020, the PSSF [Publ ic Service Superannuation Fund], the value of the …
The Chairman Chairman Can you just reiterate? Was that the contributory pension? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I gave the value of the assets for the contributory pension funds and the PSSF. Okay?
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. I am going to page B-107, Economic Policy and Domestic Policy, 20030 line item. Other than drawing funds from the Sinking Fund, what is the F inance Minister’s strategy for the deficit? Now I move to grants. I think we may …
The Chairman Chairman All right. We will wait. Just give u s a page number when you are ready. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. Okay. Head 10, line item 20070, and the Premier said that members (i.e., pension members) are allowed to withdraw 5 per cent of their pension holdings for investment …
The Chairman Chairman Page? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Head 11, page B -109, Revenue Receipts. And it can also apply to Head 38 with Tax Collection, line 4800, page B -118. And I raised this issue before. There was the issue of the acco unts receivable due because of the overpayment of …
The Chairman Chairman While you are looking I will just update the listening public that we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. Right now we are covering heads within the Ministry of F inance and they are Heads 10, 11, …
The Chairman Chairman Let me just remind you that there are about 15 minutes left. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Page B -126. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Page B -126. 1 Official Hansard Report, 10 March 2021, pages 753754 986 18 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Chairman, we are talking about interest and financing and the general administration of Head 58 under debt. I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Before the Minister answers those questions, does any other Member wish to ask questions? I am receiv ing no response. Minister, would you like to address the questions that have been pr esented please? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I will do my best …
The Chairman Chairman We have one minute. So I believe, unless you have a quick one . . . Oh, excuse me, we are at 4:53. So, Premier, I please request that you now move your Heads. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am very grateful for the questions from …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 10, 11, 12, 28, 38, 39 and 58 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection, agreed to. [ Motion carried: the Ministry of Finance Heads 10, 11, 12, 28, 38, 39 and 58 were approved and stand pat of the …
The Chairman Chairman All right, I am going to mark that as 4:55. Thank you. HEAD 83 —MINISTRY OF NATIONAL SECURITY HEADQ UARTERS Hon. Renee Ming: Madam Chairman and Honourable Members, I am pleased to present the current ac-counts estimate for the Ministry of National Security Headquarters, Head 83, which can be found …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister . I am just going to pass over to MP Tyrrell as Chairman. Thank you. [ Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell, Chair man]
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Honourable Member Jackson. Just as a reminder to the Members and the listening audience, we are continuing in the Commi ttee of Supply for further consideration of the financial year 2022/23. We are debating the Minist ry of Natio nal Security . The Minister has already done Head …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. HEAD 07 —BERMUDA POLICE SERVICE Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Chairman and Honourable Members, I am pleased to present the current account estimate for the Bermuda Police Service Head 7, which can be found on pages B -271 to B -275 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure Book. …
The Chairman Chairman Very well, Minister . Continue.
Mrs. Renee Ming I will just have one little sip of w ater. HEAD 12 —CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Chairman, Honourable Members, I am pleased to present the current account estimate for the Customs Department Head 12, which can be found on pages B -276 to B -279 of the Esti …
The Chairman Chairman Minister , can I just pause you there just to give an update. I wish to remind Members and the listening audience that we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. We are under the Ministry of National …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, please continue. Hon. Renee Ming: Two seconds, Mr. Speaker.
The Chairman Chairman Not a problem. HEAD 45 —BERMUDA FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to present the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for Head 45, the Bermuda Fire and Rescue Service, which can be found on pages B -283 to B -285 of the Current Account …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. I will now ask if the Shadow Minister or any other Member wishes to speak. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good evening, Mr. Chai rman. Yes, I would like the opportunity to participate in this debat e.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Dunkley, I recognise you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And let me thank the Honourable Minister for provi ding the brief. I know , as a former full -time Minister of National Security , that the staff w ithin the various d epartments , and …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Dunkl ey, if I can just pause you there. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Sure
The Chairman Chairman I am looking to my relief to come on. I will call on the Deputy Speaker. Honourable Burgess, are you there? [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] 1016 18 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman : Yes. Thank you, Mr. Tyrrell. Honourable Members, we are …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —the performance measures and our discussion about gangs , if you will look at the last performance measure on that page, percentage survey questionnaire data showing i mprovement in knowledge and skills development among at -risk youth participation of prevention pr ogrammes. I would ask …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: If you look at recruiting, you can see on the line it says that the Roy al Berm u-da Regiment is to recruit (and I believe that should say retain ) a standing deployable force of 420 personnel in order to meet its legal mandate …
The Chairman Chairman Seven? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Chairman. I want to start out by congratulating the new Commissioner of Police, Commissioner Darrin S imons, on his appointment as C ommissioner. I certai nly have a great deal of respect for Mr. Simons, having worked with him, having known him for …
The Chairman Chairman Well, t hey are tinted there. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I know ; but they still work If I take my glass es off, I cannot see this thing, but if you turn to page B -273, Mr. Chairman, the insurance line.
The Chairman Chairman I have i t. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The insurance line is $164,000 for the last financial year. It is $186,000 for this year. So, there was a $22,000 increase for this year. And then we see $266,000 [in the budget] for the next financial year—so, an $80,000 increase or …
The Chairman Chairman That should decrease it, would it not? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, because . . . It might decrease it. But with liability insurance, Mr . Chairman, liability insurance could increase it. I remember in preparing for this debate and reviewing the conversation s we had last year and the …
The Chairman Chairman It makes it worthless. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. And maybe, you know, we can improve this process, but that is for another day. But in regard to Government’s commitment for road safety and the police’s commitment to road saf ety and the programme that they have been following over …
The Chairman Chairman You probably want the lifespan of these cars. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Well, that is correct. I a ppreciate you jumping in there. The reason why I have not jumped in and asked about the lifespan is because I would like to know the size of the fleet, how many …
The Chairman Chairman Right . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Because I have heard i ncidents with some of the cycles that there have been challenges from time to time. Now, cars actually respond to incidents. But when it comes to road safety, it is cycles that are used, quite appropr iately, for that …
The Chairman Chairman That is all right. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The CCTV systems will really be under the police gamut, but the Government purchases them. You will see that number of $1,037,000. And certainly we in the loyal Opposition support improvements to the current CCTV system. In fact, when I was the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, got it. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Sorry page B-273 Professional Services. If the Honourable Minister could pr ovide a breakdown of the Professional Services, b ecause we saw a big increase in the financial year two years ago from $1.9 million to $2.6 million, which will end at probably …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The energy line item has risen from $981[,000] to $1.1 million and then it is going to finish at just over $1 million this year and it is the same budget item, budget number for the nex t year which is down $102,000. In light …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And I am not aware of what the current plan is, so I would appreciate the Minister’s elucidation on that plan. Mr. Chairman—
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Mr. Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Honourable Chairman. I turn my attention to Customs, Head 12. And I want to thank the good officers in the Customs D epartment for their professionalism and work, and the Collector for her work through the year. And I make this …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, I understand. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley : And so, you know, when you look at key departments such as Customs, the Collector has been there and is doing a good j ob, I enjoyed my relationship. I found her to be very profes-sional and on top of things. But …
The Chairman Chairman You said 74 or 84? Hon. Michae l H. Dunkley: I said 174. That was the number that the Honourable Minister gave.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: There are 184 positions but only 174 are funded. There are 12 unfunded pos itions. And I think the Minister said that it is the s ame as before with the Police. If they can get some savings, they can fund those positions. But 87 …
The Chairman Chairman That’ s right. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: We want the cruise ships to come. We want more planes to fly in. We want more action on our borders, good action, that depar tment is going to be taxed again like they were before to meet the needs of the cruise …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, I have got it. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. And so, once this work is done, how much longer do we think this machine will last and be effective, bearing in mind it is a critical piece for us? And how long will it take for the overhaul …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am still on page B -277, Mr. Chairman. I am looking specifically at the item of Travel .
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Interesting, the Travel numbers two years ago was $1,000, last year was $56,000 and this current year is supposed to be $3,000. So, why so much last year that it has dropped down to almost nothing this year with $3,000? The Minister did give some …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —a $63,000 increase. If the Honourable Minister could give me some explanation of what that $63,000 was for? Mr. Chairman, I am not going to deal with the Performance Measures too much in it —
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —but just, I say it year in and year out, and when I was the Minister, I wanted to change these things all the time because I think they should mean more than what they mean. You know, I will just pick out a simple …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Seriously, canines form a critical part of our safety infrastructure, whether they are in the Bermuda Police Service, whether it is in Customs, whether it is in Corrections. And I would hope that all those canine units work together be-cause we have a number of …
The Chairman Chairman The dog may bite you if you don’t have any cash. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I will keep treats in my pocket, then. But I think this is a good initiative b ecause from my time I know that dogs are v ery effective.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: As long as they are handled properly —
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —as long as the handler has the expertise and as long as they are cared for properly. I am not saying that because I think they are not. I know in Bermuda that the trainers love them, you know, like their own family. They take …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. You have 57 minutes left. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Corrections —I want to thank the Department and the Commissioner and congratulate the Commi ssioner on her appointment as [the first female Commissioner]. I have to state, Mr. Chairman, and I would like the Honourable Minister to …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: But the [staff] allocation at the end of the year was 181. Now, I think the Minister said 188, because I wrote that number down at the bottom. So, you have got a difference Mr. Chairman, of 16 staff, right? And the budget —if you …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: So, if I am correct, or if I am wrong the Minister can answer some questions and let me know, but if the overtime is a problem up there it has got to be because of staff shortages, scheduling issues, Mr. Chairman, or a combination …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am very concerned b ecause the budget for Psychological Services was $436,000, it was cut to $337,000, and two years ago it was $157,000. Now, I know why two years ago it was so low at $157,000, because there was only one ps ychologist …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Dunkley. Are there any further questions? I would not think so. Minister Dunkley covered them al l. But, Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you for that compliment, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you, Member for not …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you hav e 33 minutes. Hon. Renee Ming: Okay. Thank you, Mr. [Chairman]. Member, you asked the question about cybercrime. You asked a few questions, so I am going to provide you with the answers. You asked: How much has been spent and do you have any outside agencies …
The Chairman Chairman So, Minister. If they have less than $10,000, the dogs will not sniff you? Hon. Renee Ming: I do not know if the criteria have been set yet for the dogs but I do not think they want us laying around on the beaches. There was one other question with …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, your time is complete. Hon. Renee Ming : Okay. Member, I know there were a few more questions. I [will be] happy to supply you with those.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, I think that would be appreciated by the Member. Hon. Renee Ming: Surely.
The Chairman Chairman Do you want to move the heads? Hon. Renee Ming: Surely again. I move that Heads 83, 06, 07, 12, 25 and 45 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25 and 45 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Ministry of National Security, Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25 and 45 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Commi ttee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress and sought leave to sit again.]
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 9:55 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 202 2/23
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Members, we appreciate your contribution t oday on the debate in reference to the Expenditure and Revenue. We are now back into the House and the Committee has moved to rise and report progress and sit at a later time. That said we will now move on …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert, you are presenting? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I am presenting on behalf of the Premier and Minister of Finance.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Spe aker, I move that the Bill entitled the Payroll Tax Amendment and Validation Act 2022 be now read for the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING PAYROLL TAX AMENDMENT AND VALIDA TION ACT 2022 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, today I am pleased to present to this Honourable House the Payroll Tax Amendment and Validation Act 2022. This Bill will amend the Payroll …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: We have no objections. This issue has been discussed in the public domain and we have no further comments. Thank you, Mr. Speak er.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I would like to thank the O pposition Leader and the— Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I think there are some other people who are trying to speak. I am sorry, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson?
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, good evening, Mr. Speaker, and to those in the listening audience. I just want to give a few comments, if I may, and mostly to express my support for what is being proposed in support of the Government and also i n this instance, MP Minister Furbert. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. I can’t tell . . . is that MP Adams?
Mr. Jache Adams Yes. I am in a completely new spot for me this evening.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, I certainly want to concur with the sentiments of my colleague, MP Ric hardson. I cer tainly too am supportive of this Bill. I can certainly say from the outset that I am proud once again to be a member of this Government because this Government certainly has …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Adams. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member? Minister Furbert. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I really enjoyed hearing all the good comments coming even from the Leader of the Opposition and Shadow Minister of Finance. And of course …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Speaker . House in Committee at 10:15 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] 1036 18 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly COMMITTEE ON BILL PAYROLL TAX AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Payroll Tax Amendment and Validation Act 2022 . Minister Furbert, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move all clauses if that is …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, t his Bill seeks to amend, as we mentioned, the Payroll Tax Act 1995 (“the principal Act”) and the Payroll Tax Rates Act 1995, and to validate certain waivers of payroll tax granted by or on behalf of the Minister of Finance. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank y ou, Minister Furbert. Are there any further speakers? There are no further speakers. Minister, do you want to move your clauses 1 thorough 7? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 1 through 6—
The Chairman Chairman Through clause 7, you have seven clauses there, don’t you? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Oh, seven.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. It has been moved that clauses 1 through 7 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 7 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Move the preamble. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Go ahead. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move that the Bill be r eported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Hang on. You move the preamble. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I did.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, repeat it. I didn’t get it. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move the preamble be a pproved.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. It has been moved that the preamble be a pproved. Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved, continue, Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move that the Bill be r eported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Payroll Tax Amendment and Validation Act 2022 was considered by a Committee …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 10:21 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE PAYROLL TAX AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Members, are there any objections to the Payroll Tax Amendment and Validation Act 2022 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The matter has been repor ted as printed. Thank you for that contribution, Members. The next item on the Order Paper is …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members are requested now to give consideratio n to the Bill entitled Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2022. Mr. Speaker, this Bill proposes to amend the Customs …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Col e Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have reviewed—
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have reviewed the legislation and we have no objection.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier. You have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wish to briefly comment on this Bill and commend the Government for in i ts wisdom to reduce the duty on light emitting diode (i.e., LED bulbs). We know that energy costs in this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Bermuda House of Assembly Any other Member? Minister Furbert. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker . House in Committee at 10:29 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for fur ther consider ation of the Bill entitled the Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2022 . Minister Furbert, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairm an. Mr. Chairman, I move all the clauses, 1 …
The Chairman Chairman Well, you have a Schedule there. Don’t you have a Schedule in there also? You have three clauses and a Schedule. Isn’t number three a Schedule, isn’t it? I don’t have the Bill but — Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, it is. You are correct.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: You want me to start?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you can go ahead. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This Bill seeks to amend the First Schedule and the Fifth Schedule to the Customs Tariff Act 1970. Clause 1 contains the citation ; it is self - explanatory. Clause 2 repeals and replaces the First Schedule …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Furbert. Any further speakers? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Chairman, there are no questions —
The Chairman Chairman The Honourable . . . I’m sorry Oppos ition Leader. What — Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I said there are no objections on our side, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Opposition Leader, Cole Simons. Are there any further speakers? Minister, there appear to be none. Continue, Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Again, Mr. Chairman, thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, thank you for your support. I will now move the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Well, you have got to move the clauses first. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I’m sorry. I keep forgetting it. I move all the clauses 1 through 4, and the Schedule.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Well, you have to do the clauses separately. Clauses 1, 2 and 4. You want to move clauses 1, 2 and 4. The Schedule is 3, so the Schedule comes . . . you have to do the clauses first. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, I move clauses 1, …
The Chairman Chairman No, you have to do them separately, Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Move clause 1, move clause 2 and move clause 3 and clause 4 and the Schedule.
The Chairman Chairman Minister. No. There are only 3 clauses. Clauses 1, 2 and 4. So you move them first. Just make a motion to move clauses 1, 2 and 4. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move clauses 1, 2 and 4.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1, 2 and 4 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1, 2 and 4 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Now you can move the Schedule, which is number 3. 1040 18 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move the Schedule number 3.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Schedule be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: The Schedule passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Now you can do the preamble. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move the preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman It will be reported to t he House. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I am getting a note about some amendments. I don’t see the amendments here. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Well, it is kind of late for the amendments. Nobody is aware of them. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: [INAUDIBLE ], Mr. Chair man.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Someone just send me a note that I got to [INAUDIBLE] the amendments. Anyway, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2022 was considered by a Committee of the …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 10:37 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2022
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Members, are there any objections to the Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2022 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The matter has been repor ted as printed. Members, this brings us a close of the Orders that were to be debated today; therefore, …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING PAYROLL TAX AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2022 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill now be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and has now passed. Would you like to do the second one? [Motion carried : The Payroll Tax Amendment and Validation Act 2022 was given a third reading and passed.] SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Wayne L. …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2022 was given a third reading and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members, for your partic ipation today. It has been a long day but a fruitful day. Mr. Premier, or Deputy Premier, would you like to move the next portion? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Monday, March …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Would any Member wish to speak to that? None? Hon. E. David Burt: [INAUDIBLE]
The Speaker The Speaker Did I hear a voice say no or yes?
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan, you have your 20 mi nutes. HISTORY OF DISCRIMINATION
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I speak tonight recognising that we just celebrated on March 8, International Women’s Day to recognise the struggles and celebrate the tr iumphs by women in our society. And certainly, Mr. Speaker, all of those women today would be mindful that the struggle has …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan. MP Swan. Your 20 minutes are up.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Would any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? None other? Thank you, Members, for your par ticipation today. The House now stands adjourned until Monday morning at 10:00 am. Have a safe and healthy weekend. [At 11:00 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Monday, …
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