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House of Assembly Session 2021/2022 333 speeches

March 9, 2022

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This was day two of budget debates, with Minister David Burch presenting the Ministry of Public Works budget of $69.3 million for 2022/23. The session was conducted virtually with some technical audio difficulties. The Minister outlined the ministry's responsibilities for maintaining Bermuda's critical infrastructure including 617 roads, 751 government buildings, 85 public docks, and 75 parks and beaches. He detailed programs run by the Bermuda Housing Corporation to help Bermudians with affordable housing and the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck program that provides temporary employment.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 9, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 19
Speeches 333

Key Topics

Ministry of Public Works budget presentation for 2022/23 fiscal yearBermuda Housing Corporation operations and housing assistance programsDepartment of Parks maintenance and services across the islandInfrastructure maintenance including roads, buildings, docks, and telecommunications towersEconomic stimulus projects and capital development plans

Bills & Motions

Motion to move into Committee of Supply to consider budget estimates for Ministry of Public Works (approved)
Budget heads 36, 53, 68, 81, and 82 moved for consideration under the Ministry of Public Works
*Note: This was a budget presentation session rather than legislative debate, so no bills were read or voted on during this sitting.*

Notable Moments

Speaker expressed concern for former MP Darius Tucker who was missing and asked the public to share any information with police
Technical difficulties interrupted the Minister's presentation multiple times due to poor audio quality
The session was chaired by MP Christopher Famous as the House moved into Committee of Supply

Debate Transcript

333 speeches from 19 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Madam Clerk, you can lead us in pra yer. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Shernette Wolffe, Clerk]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Clerk. Members, the House is now in session. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes from the sittings from March 4 and March 7 have been deferred. MESSAGES FRO M THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING CONCERN FOR FORMER MP DARIUS TUCKER
The Speaker The Speaker Members, I would just like for us to pause a moment at this time to express our concerns . I would like to ex press the concerns and thoughts of all of us in this House as we are under the shadow of the search for a former Member of …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are no questions this morning. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. 612 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Members, that now brings us to the business of today. And for the listening audience, we are on day two of the debates on the individual de-partments and ministries. And today, again, for the public knowledge, there are eight hours set aside each day for the debates, once we start …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, sir. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now resume in Committee of Supply to consider the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2022/23.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections. MP Foggo, would you assume the Chair? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Your microphone is on, Ms. Wolffe.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good m orning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Famous, are you in the Chair this morning?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. The Speaker: Okay, my apologies. I thought it was MP Foggo. MP Famous, you will be chairing the session this morning. So, MP Famous, you can turn on your camera we will assume that you have the Chair.
Mr. Christopher Famous My camera is on.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, okay, you are in the boardroom there, that is why I did not see you. Okay. And for the listening audience, we are now moved into Committee and the Speaker will depart the session and the session will now be handled by the Chair , and MP Famous is …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Members, we are now in resum ption of the Committee of Supply for further consider ation of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. The Ministry we are debating today is the Public Works, and we are debating Heads 36, 53, 68, …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, we can see you, but we cannot hear you.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman. You are coming through very weak and sporadic, so I do not know how you fix that. Mr. Chairman, I move the following Heads: Head 36 —the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters; Head 53 —the Bermuda Housing Corporation; Head 68—the Department of Parks; Head 81—the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Ministry of Public Works is responsible for maintaining Bermuda’s critical assets and infrastructure as well as delivering the many services this Island depends on. Bermuda House of Assembly Some of the assets and infrastructure that the Ministry is responsible for building and maintaining include the following: • …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier My apologies, Mr. Chairman. It was coming through very muffled just now. I did not hear a word he said in the last, like, minute.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Minister, [INAUDIBLE]. [Crosstalk]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, sorry, apologies. Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: Is that better?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, it is a vast improvement. Go back to revenue, the paragraph after revenue. Thank you, Minister .
The Chairman Chairman Yes, that is a vast improvement.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay. The Ministry’s total capital budget for 2022/23 is $39,634,000. This is a decrease of $278,000 over the current year budget. This includes the capital development budget of $37,746,000 and the capital acquisition ’s budget of $1,888,000. The Ministry’s established number of emplo yees, which is referred to as full …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the overarching objective of the Ministry Headquarters (Finance and Administration), Head 36, is to provide centralis ed support to the departments within the Mi nistry, which include the Department of Public Lands and Buildings, the Department of Works and Engineering, and the Department of Parks, to ensure delivery …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Head Office Administration— Programme 3601—is comprised of Headquarters Administration (including Safet y and Health). Previously Headquarters included Central Filing, but with the transfer of the human r esources team to the Department of Employee Organ isation and Development, it was only logical to transfer 614 9 March …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Accounts Pr ogramme provides accounts payable, accounts recei vable, payroll, capital asset recording, and non-financial and financial reporting functions for the operating departments within the Ministry. This section also prepares and distributes weekly payroll, vendor checks and invoices for services provided by the Mi nistry’s operational areas; as well …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Purchasing Programme provides centralised purchasing support, inventory management, warehousing and disposal functions to the other departments and pr ogrammes within the Ministry and to other external departments from time to time. Mr. Chairman, the Purchasing section’s focus for the fiscal year 2022/23 will be on relocating to …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Telecommunic ations programme provides a suite of services such as replacement of telephones and related equipment, and the management of mobile service contracts for the Ministry. Mr. Chairman, the Government owns and operates a portfolio of seven telecommunication tower sites across the Island, with the towers located at the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, this programme was formerly called the Human Resource programme due to its emphasis on employee se rvices. Although most of th ese services are now being centralised under the Department of Employee and Organizational Development, we are still required to assist with recruitment, employee relations, along with training …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the objective of the Architect and Design programme, 3614 is to deliver [INAUDIBLE]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you are breaking up af ter Architect —
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I cannot hear.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —within the Ministry to the—
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you are breaking up after Architect —
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you were breaking up after you [INAUDIBLE]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch If I get any closer to the microphone I will be kissing it. I am going to start again on Architect and Design programme 3614. Is that better?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, that is better.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay. Mr. Chairman, the objective of the Architectural Design programme 3614 is to deliver architectural design support for government’s capital develo pment projects in a pr ofessional, fiscally prudent and timely manner. This programme has transitioned wit hin the Ministry to the Department of Public Lands and Buildings along with …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the budgeted number of employees for the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters is 39; this can be seen on page B -221. The headcount has reduced by nine for the 2022/23 fiscal year, as the HR staff have moved to the new Department of Employee and Organizational Development …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, during 2022/23 the Public Works Headquarters will aim to conduct four safety and health assessments with corrective actions, and conduct 12 safety and health training sessions for Ministry employees. In addition, the Ministry will also establish a Medical Services pr ogramme for employees who have the potential to …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, with regard to the major capital projects being managed by the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters, the overall 2022/23 capital expenditure plan for the Public Works Headquarters is $9,692,000. This represents $1,120,000 less than the amount allocation 2021/22. Details are found on pages C -5 and C -6 …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the overall 2022/23 capital acquisitions plan for the Public Works Headquarters is $1,888,000. This is a dramatic reduction of 57 per cent from the 2021/22 budget all ocation. Details are found on page C -14 under Schedule C of the Capital Accounts Estimates. And the capi-tal acquisitions include: …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mission statement of the Bermuda Housing Corpor ation is to provide accessibility to adequate, affordable housing and promote independent living to enhance the quality of life in Bermuda. The vision statement of the Bermuda Housing Corporation is, Every Bermudian will reside in an adequate and safe environment …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the BHC operates eight rooming or transitional houses that contain approximately 180 beds. The v arious houses are located throughout the Island and provide a safe habitat for BHC clients. The rooming houses cater to households that need immediate, safe or emergency accommodation. The Support Services Department holds …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairm an, the Gulfstream multi -unit rooming house is comprised of 618 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly 79 rooms and currently houses 49 families from var ious backgrounds. Some families have adjoining rooms to ensure adequate privacy for parents and children. The Gulfstream residents …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, Building 632, known as Langley House, is a 63- bedroom housing facility located at Southside, St. David’s. The rooming house is used specifically to house m en in need of affordable, safe accommodation. There are 55 men residing in the rooming house. The Corpor ation has qualified social …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Corporation is in the process of transforming the Harmony Club property into studio, one- bedroom and two- bedroom units which will be used to primarily for inter -generational living, those 50 years and older who are mobile and can live independently. Harmony Club property is also used as the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Bermuda Housing Corporation’s Head Office is located at the Seven Arches Building (East Entrance), 44 Church Street in the City of Hamilton and presently consists of 43 per-sonnel. Of that total, four H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck members operate from office space at the Harmony Club. And four staff members, under the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Pr ojects Department consisting of two employees assists with adv ice regarding major repair work necessary on existing buildings owned by the Corporation to ensure longevity of the Corporation’s assets. The department has recently been restructured with the project man-agers overseeing the multiple dwellings that come under …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Property Operations Department is responsible for the maintenance of BHC’s housing stock of approximately 700 units including the rooming houses Island- wide. The department’s responsibilities include the regular maintenance of buildings under the control of BHC and providing advice and assistance to clients of BHC on housing- …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Finance Depar tment has a total staff of nine employees consisting of one finance manager; two assistant finance managers, one responsible for reporting and the other for IT; one accounts supervisor; three finance officers and one cashier. The Finance Department careful ly mon itors the Corporation’s spending and compliance, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Support Services Department is the department r esponsible for ensuring that adequate housing is found for BHC clients. The department conducts regular i nspections of BHC housing inventory to ensure clients are compliant with their rental contracts. The depar tment consists of ten persons: one manager, two …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Administration Department consists of the general manager, one executive assistant, one receptionist and two office as-sistants, and one intern. The Administration Depar tment is responsible for the orderly daily business of the Corporation. Human Resources
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Human Resource Department has a total staff of two. The HR Department ensures that staff members have the required sk ills to efficiently and successfully carry out their daily roles as the Corporation ensures employee welfare and provides mentoring and training services. Helping Unemployed Sustain Themselves with …
Lt. Col. Hon. Da vid A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck programme has proven itself over the years, assisting unemployed persons who actively seek work. The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck headquarters op-erates out of the Harmony Club and caters to 20 temporary employees per week. The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck continues to be of valuable assistance to Bermuda with the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the D epartment of Parks under the Ministry of Public Works is responsible for the administration of protected areas listed under the Bermuda National Parks Act 1986. This Act incorporates changes and amendments from the Bermuda National Parks Amendment Act 2009 and the Bermuda National Parks Amendment Act …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Administration, which will have a budget of $1,109,000, is the hub of the department and encompasses the Park Planning Section, which will continue work on the management plans for Southlands and the Botanical Gardens. The Bermuda House of Assembly section will also make use of the geographic information systems …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Park Ranger Service budget for the 2022/23 fiscal year is $497,000 with seven full -time equivalents. This section continues to advance the public -private par tnerships, whic h have greatly impacted the department in a positive way. The Friends of the Bermuda Rai lway Trail is an …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The Lifeguard Service has a budget of $462,000 for 2022/23. The depar t622 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly ment anticipates that there will be 21 seasonal and reserve lifeguards trained and certified under the Royal Life Saving Society [RLSS]. The Ser vice will be on …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The budget for the Railway Trail is $320,000. This has remained constant for over 10 years. The Railway Trail continues to be one of the most actively used parks in the system for both residents and tourists. Eve nts such as the Endto-End charity event generally held during the first …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch This budget for 2022/23 will be $456,000. The primary management responsibilit y for this section includes Fort St. Catherine, a World Heritage site, and other forts in the eas tern parishes. However, jurisdiction for managing forts Bermuda House of Assembly extends to other parks in the National Parks System. Therefore, …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, I am going to pause you for a second. [INAUD IBLE]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I heard somebody.
The Chairman Chairman We are debating [INAUDIBLE ] Lt. Col. Hon. David A . Burch: May I continue?
The Chairman Chairman Not yet.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo MP Famous, Member, I can barely hear you. Colonel Burch, are you able to hear him?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, loud and clear.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Okay, so maybe it is the s ystem in the House of Assembly. Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I do not hear him at all.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Oh, you do not hear him either?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Do you have the speaker right next to you, Member Famous?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Member, I have it right here.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Okay, that is much clearer, that was much clearer, [Member] Famous. MP Cannonier, could you hear him when he said that?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I did, but it has been sporadic. I stopped interjecting. For some reason, much of it gets muddled.
The Chairman Chairman Minister, may you resume please?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Okay, MP Famous, yes, just keep the speaker next to you. Thank you. Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Minister, may you resume please? HEAD 81 —DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC LANDS AND BUILDINGS
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay. Mr. Chairman, this is the Department of Public Lands and Buildings. Am I coming through loud and clear?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Minister, you ar e very clear at this moment.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay. Mr. Chairman, it is the responsibility of the Department of Public Lands and Buildings: To effectively manage Government property and provide na624 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly tional mapping to enable the delivery of effec tive public services. The Department of Public Lands and …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairm an, pr ogramme 8100— Administration Training has a total budget of $667,276. Its objective is to provide senior management leadership and administrative support for the Estates and Buildings Section. This pr ogramme is split between two cost centres, namely: 91000— Administration at $246,947; and 91001 — Training and …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the Building Section 8101 has a total budget of $8,774,000. The Buildings Programme is split between two cost centres, namely: 91002 —Services Management at $672,000; and 91003— Maintenance at $8,102,000. Mr. Chairman, the Buildings Programme, as seen on page B -232, has a mandate to effectively manage the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I would like to highlight some of the achievements of the D epartment of Public Lands and Buildings during the 2021/22 fi scal year. Mr. Chairman, the Buildings Section attended to over 3,000 help desk building maintenance calls in the year together with intended planned service works and …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, for 2022/23 there are a number of planned capital w orks that will take place across the various capital cost centres. It has to be appreciated that the department has been required to prioritise and limit capital works to meet budget limitations. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Chairman, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the E states Section under programme 8102 provides property and land- related management service to all go vernment ministries and departments. This service i ncludes insurance, acquisition, letting, rental and di sposal of land and property across the Island. The sec-tion is the custodian of the foreshore and …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The budget for Insurance in 2022/23 is $5,750,000 and it effectively r emains unchanged from 2021/22. Cost Centre 91004—Asset Management
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the O ffice Relocations Capital cost centre 75099 for 2022/23 has a sum allocated in the amount of $2 million compared to a nominal amount of $250,000 in 2021/22. This capital budget account allows for the planning and fit -out costs for moving government offices. In 2021/22 a …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I now move to Programme 8103 —Land Surveys, with cost centre 91007, on page B -232. This programme has a budget allocation of $324,000 for fiscal year 2022/23 as compared to a 2021/22 budget of $326,000, an immaterial decrease of $2,000. Mr. Chairman, this section provides traditional and …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, as I conclude the Budget Brief for Head 81, the Depar tment of Public Lands & Buildings, I would like to take this opportunity to recognise all the staff in the D epartment and thank them for their hard work thr ough these challenging—especially times during the COVID …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Bur ch Mr. Chairman, the mission of the Department of Works and Engineering is: To ensure the effective and prudent management of all engineering services relating to the construction, erection, improvement, maintenance and repairs of Government infrastructur e and the operation of essential water and waste treatment services. Mr. Chairman, the Department …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I will now present the seven programme areas, each with a number of sub- programmes or cost centres, as shown on pages B -236 through B -241 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure, namely: • 8200 —Administration • 8201 —Engineering • 8202 —Highways • 8203 —Waste Management …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the estimated budget for the Department of Works and E ngineering for the 2022/23 fiscal year is $27,716,000, which represents an increase of $740,000 from the 2021/22 original budget level. [Programme] 8200, Administration, provides for the salaried senior management team of the de-partment. The mandate of the senior …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Engineering Services Programme is to provide quality electrical, mechanical and structural engineering services. A budget of $1,369,000 has been allocated for this programme, representing an decrease of $391,000 compared to the 2021/22 budget. This programme includes cost centres 92001, Electrical and Mechanical Management; cost …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Highways Programme is to develop and maintain the public road infrastructure to ensure the safe passage of motorists and pedestrians. This entails all work associated with the planning, design and construction of road schemes and includes activ ities such as resurfacing, drainage, signage, road …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Waste Management programme is to arrange for the collection and safe disposal of Berm uda's solid wastes. The aim of the Waste Management Section is to serve the people of Bermuda by provi ding a comprehensive waste management programme, utilising the best technologies for …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, a $1,136,000 budget has been allocated to this pr ogramme for 2022/23, representing a decrease of $852,000 as compared to the original 2021/22 budget. The budget for cost centre 92019, Quarry Administration is $516,000, representing a decrease of $32,000 from the original fiscal 2021/22. The full - time …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, a $1,805,000 budget has been allocated for cost centre 92023, Asphalt Plant, which is a decrease of $223,000 compared to the previous year. Additionally, a $3, 214,000 rechargeable budget for quarry products have been all ocated to this programme for fiscal 2022 /23. The full -time equivalents for …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Water and Sewage Program is: To provide planning, design, construction, operation and maintenance of the Government water extraction, treatment and distribution systems and the wastewater collection and distribution systems; to produce potable water on a cost recovery basis to meet demand; to provide septage …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, total staffing levels within the Department of Works and Engineering are shown on page B -238. Employee number estimates for the 2022 /23 budget are 344. However, only 290 of these required posts are currently filled. This will place an even greater challenge to meet service delivery. Notwithstanding, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Minister, may you pause there for a minute?
The Chairman Chairman Can you hear me better now, Mini ster?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, loud and clear.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Honourable Members, and for the benefit of the listening audience, I am now handing over chairmanship to MP Susan Jackson.
The Chairman Chairman You now have the floor, Honourable Member. —I am sorry, you now have chairmanship , Honourable Member. [Ms. Susan E. Jackson, Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. I will just take this moment to remind Me mbers and the listening audience that we are now in Committee of Supply for further considerati on of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. And we are listening to the Minister of Public Works [who …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, M adam Chairman. I was just starting on staffing, that was [for] the Department of Works and Engineering. Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Chai rman, total staffing levels within the Department of Works and Engineering are shown on page B -238. Employee number estimates for the 2022 /23 …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I will now provide Members with a summary of the status of the major capital projects being managed by the Department of Works and Engineering. The overall 2022/23 Capital Expenditure plan for the Department of Works and Engineering is $13,964,000. Details are found on pages C -6 and C -7 …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I would now like to provide you with a summary of the status of the major acquisitions being managed by the Department of Works and Engineering, the details of which can be found on page C -14 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure 2022/23. Quarry
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Vehicles and Equi pment (CEP cost centre 76495). Madam Chai rman, the vehicles and equipment to be replaced under the 2022/23 budget are those that have surpassed useful economic life and are in po or and/or dangerous cond ition. Additionally, efforts are being made to transition to electric vehicles. Unfortunately, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Given the fact that we are six minutes from the lunch break, shall we take a break a few minutes early? Minister, would you like to break us for lunch?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chai rman, I move that the House adjourn for lunch and return at 2:00 pm.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. We will now adjourn for lunch and return at 2:00 pm. Thank you. Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:26 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2:00 pm [Ms. S usan E. Jackson, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2022/23 MIN ISTRY …
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members, and the listening public, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. This afternoon we are continuing with the Mi nistry of Public Works. The Minister has read Heads 36, 53, 68, 81, and …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the MP Cannonier. You may proceed.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, very much. First of all, just let me do a sound check. I just want to make sure that I am being heard clearly. I apologise. I was not able to hear many parts of the Honourable [Minister’s] layout of some of the areas. So one or two …
The Chairman Chairman What page is that on?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier On page B -219, Head 36, Ministry of Public Works Headquarters. We are going through the general summary here. And so [business unit] 3601, [line item] 46111, it looks as if we spent $112,000 more than projected for 2021/22. And we anticipate spending $219,000 more in 2022/23. Or that is …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, thank you. Honourable Shadow Minister, please continue.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Performance measures under the business unit 4611, administration. The third item down says, Provide safety and hea lth training for Ministry employees . We can see that this is down. The Minister did mention that there was a focus and I believe he mentioned this focus going forward, to have …
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Yes. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman As you get there let me just say to the Honourable Members and the listening public that this is the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. This is a five -hour debate on the Mini stry of Public Works. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. On page C -5, under Ministry of Public Works, we see here the grant for the Corporation of St. George’s. We can see that it has been reduced. I do believe the Minister did mention this, but I am not sure. Again, I was listening intently but we …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you are on mute.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I am happy to do whatever you wish. I can answer now or you ca n continue.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. I’ll continue through, bearing in mind the time. So I will continue through.
The Chairman Chairman Minister, thank you. Shadow Minister, please continue.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, much obliged. Thank you very much. We now move to Head 53, housing corpor ation. I, again, this is a highlighted area. I know this is probably one of the areas that the Minister also has taken a lot of pride in, especially understanding that he was a m …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Just quick notes on the summary that the Minister gave and then I will go into more of the analysis of the numbers and the likes. So, at the begin ning of each head, I will just ask questions on the summary that was given …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Sorry about that!
The Chairman Chairman —Shadow Minister. That is all right. We are currently dealing with the Public Works debate, and you are on Head 68, Parks, at bundle B -225, for those following along. Thank you, please c ontinue Shadow Minister. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, there was mention also by the Minister of …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —I see an estimate of 12, and I do believe he said there were 21. So, I could be wrong; just looking for clarification there. Park Maintenance 6803, maintenance and development, we can see that there is a $286,000 increase here . . .. and …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Under the subjective ana lysis estimates where we have salaries and wages. So, you can see combined here, under salaries and wages it is up substantially, but the employ ee nu m642 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly bers are down. …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Again, it has already been mentioned that there is a reduction here, but I do draw back to the question I recall there being said about the lifeguards, if we can clarify that number. And of the four beaches, are they evenly distributed, these lif …
The Chairman Chairman Page C -6, yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Page C -6, yes . . . under parks. The Minister was very detailed here and I want to thank the Minister actually for the details that he gave here, under these particular areas. I noticed that park maintenance and yard facility …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: There is an intention of getting vehicles there, $250,000. Of that allotment of $250,000 [for] vehicles, what type of vehicles is he looking to purchase there? Is the intent to go electrical if it is trucks and the likes? The smaller trucks, I know that …
The Chairman Chairman B-232? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, page B -232, and that will be —
The Chairman Chairman And this is Head 81— Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman —in the debate for Public Works which is public lands and buildings. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Correct.
The Chairman Chairman And we have another . . . or the debate runs until 4:43 this afternoon. Please continue —it is currently the Honour able Shadow Minister Craig Cannonier asking questions of the Honourable Minister. Please continue. Thank you. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Minister , …
The Chairman Chairman That is line item 91001? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: That is corr ect. Training and apprenticeship. If you go to the very end, the percentage amount.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, thank you. Please continue. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, thank you very much. Now, with the training and apprenticeship, I was hoping that the Minist er can tell us exactly . . . he did mention it was for training and apprenticeship, but in what areas? What areas are …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Under Estates, 8102, E states. The Honourable Member did answer this here and I want to thank him for giving us the answers there. He said it had to do with relocations. Land surveys, not much change there. So, there was not much to say …
The Chairman Chairman B-233, yes? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, under Head 81, again, public lands and buildings.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, again, I go back to those salaries and those increases, if he can give us . . . that is like a $618,000 increase, if you add the two together between salaries and wages. I was just cur ious as to whether or …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Under Head —
The Chairman Chairman B-234? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: B-234 performance measures, Head 81. Business units 91000 to 91001 update the G overnment property asset management plan. I am very curious as to what work was done there as far as the property asset management plan. And did this property asset management plan involve …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Oh, sorry —my apologies. I need to go to . . . hang on. I think I need . . . let me just go to capital developments here.
The Chairman Chairman Sure, while you check that — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes—
The Chairman Chairman —I will just remind the listening audience and Honourable Member s that we are in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenues for the year 2022/23. This is a five-hour debate on the Ministry of Public Works. The Bermuda House of Assembly Honourable Minister Lt. …
The Chairman Chairman Yes? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —and buildings. I do want to commend the Minister for the update that he gave us on the work that is going on as far as the operating of projects under 75112. Also, for school maintenance under 75309 and it is nice to see this …
The Chairman Chairman That is line it em 75327 at C -6, yes? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: That is correct. My apol ogies, yes.
The Chairman Chairman No, no. I was just checking. I have got it. Yes, thank you very much. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes—and it was great to hear about the solar panels for Gover nment buildings at 75357. I know that there has been talk about this project —could the Minister tell us …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And again, I want to say because this is one of the largest areas of manpower that this Ministry has and as a single unit probably the largest [payrolls] in the civil service employment. So, I recognise that with the tough financial times —I must …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cann onier: I understand that has to do with bridges. Interestingly enough there was a few boaters the other day who mentioned to me that they thought that the temporary bridge down at the airport, that it was in pretty bad shape. If the Minister can …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Under business unit 8206, water supply and treatment, 92026. The Minister mentioned that we are producing 301 million gallons. Can the Minister let us know —is that an increase or a decrease for what we have done in prior [years], these 301 million gallons? I …
The Chairman Chairman This is at page B -237? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Page B -237 under the subjective analysis of current account estimates.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much—oh, adverti sing and promotion. Thank you. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, advertising and pr omotion, yes. Below that you have professional services as well which has increased to $1,058,000. If we can get a breakdown of where that falls, professional services of $1 million , he …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: At the top where it says revenue source . . . sorry, just going through my notes here, the general subjects that he mentioned. So, at the top there, waste collection and disposal we can see that there is $1 million less in revenues. Also, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Shadow Mi nister. B efore you continue, just to say that we have 45 minutes left in this five- hour debate. Please continue. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Okay, and I am about to finish now on page B -239 under the performance measures. I will quickly go …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I think that fills everything. Let me just go to my rentals real quick. I had a note here—
The Chairman Chairman Sure. While you are doing that, Ho nourable Shadow Minister, just for the listening public, this is the debate on the Minist ry of Public Works and the Shadow Minister Craig Cannonier has been pos-ing questions from the Budget Book to the Honourable Minister Lt. Col. David B urch. This …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Shadow Minister. Honourable Minister we have about 35 minutes left in the debate, so over to you, si r.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I think you have to offer to others who may have comments. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Yes, absolutely. Any others who wish to put questions to you, Minister , by all means.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay. Let me start by saying thank you to the Shadow Minister for his comments about my return and . . .
The Chairman Chairman Let me add my own welcome back, Minister . Pleased to see you back.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I have tried to do [I NAUDIBLE]
The Chairman Chairman Minister , you are very faint.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Can you hear me, Shadow Minister?
The Chairman Chairman No—I mean we can hear you, but you are very faint. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members and listening members of the listening public, while we are waiting to see if the Honourable M inister can fix his audio, this is the Committee of Supply where the House consi ders the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23 and this is a five- …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes. Is that better?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, we can hear you now. Thank you. Yes. Shadow Minister, can you hear th e Minister ? Yes. Please proceed. Thank you, Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I am going to go with the question in relation to page B -219. There are t ypos there in relation to [business unit] 3613, [cost centre] 46116. The revised 2021 figure shoul d be $123,000.
The Chairman Chairman So, not $238[,000] but $123[,000].
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Sorry, that should be—the 46112 should be $238,000, making both of those zero. But the totals are the same.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Honourable Shadow Minister, you are on mute. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, no, I missed—I am trying to . . . so central office $238[,000] is correct, you are saying, but the—I missed that last part. Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: Central office should be under 2021/22 revised …
The Chairman Chairman Rather than zero?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Rather than the zero, yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Got it, got it. Thank you.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Good pick up.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay, we are going to start with the Minist ry Headquarters. So, in the Budget Book in connection to—oh, this is in relation to the grant to the Bermuda Housing Corporation. The Budget Book has $5,438. That is incorrect. That is a typo. It should be origina l $6,050,000. The …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Sorry? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Ordinance Island?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I am sorry? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Its name—Ordinance I sland.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, yes. Ordinance Island. The golf course grant cut. This is due to budget cuts; however, there is new leadership at the golf courses, and they are looking at ways to gener ate non-golfing revenue. MP Kim Swan took over as chairman last year and is doing an outstanding job …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch We are performing a pilot study in working with the Rocky Mountain Inst i-tute to develop a plan for the infrastructure to supply a large electric fleet. We have to have the results by fall in time to set the budget for next year. A full change of fleet will …
The Chairman Chairman You have got five minutes left in the debate, Minister , to conclude at 4:43 pm.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Why is this [INAUD IBLE] much higher than current estimates ? We have to buy aggregate in 2022/23 that we did not buy this year. Can the Minister expand on the electronic vehicles. I done answered that one. For Horseshoe Bay, $240,000. This is for a new sewage system and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister . That now concludes the five- hour debate on the Minist ry of Public Works. Thank you very much, the Honourable Minister Lt. Col. David Burch and to the Honourable Shadow Minister Craig Cannonier. I will now relinquish the Chair to the Deputy Speaker who I …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Can I move the Heads, Deputy? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Pearman will do that.
The Chairman Chairman Please move the Heads.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch [I move] that Heads 36, 53, 68, 81 and 82 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? Appr oved as printed. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Public Works, Heads 36, 53, 68, 81 and 82 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23.] [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman ]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Member Acting Chairman, MP Pearman. Honourable Members, we are now in Commi ttee of Supply for further consideration of the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23, the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport, Heads 71, 20 and 52. This debate will …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, so continue. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to present the financial year of 2022/23 Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport, which can be found starting o n page B -242 of the Estimates Book. Mr. Chairman, I will briefly …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Sure.
The Chairman Chairman Can we take a second so we can change over chairpersons to MP Tyrrell? MP Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrell Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrell I will carry on; thank you. [Mr. Neville S. Tyrell , Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, before you proceed, let me just remind the Honourable Members and the listening audience that we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. We are now debat-ing the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Spor t. Minister, …
The Chairman Chairman Please. [Pause] HEAD 52 —DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I will now present for fiscal year 2022/23 estimates of the expenditure and revenue for Head 52, the Department of Culture, which can be found on pages B-253 through B -261 of the Estimates Book. Mr. Chairman, the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Before proceeding, let m e just remind me mbers of the radio audience that we are in Committee of the whole for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2022/23. We are debating the Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport, which should …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman I recognise you, MP.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you Minister for delivering that comprehensive brief. It was very comforting to hear that the Mi nistry has been able to continue throughout COVID -19 to produce and pivot where necessary from in- person [to being able to] pick up new ways to chronicle …
The Chairman Chairman I am good, proceed.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay, thank you. I would again like to congratulate the team of about eight members of staff who have been able to develop the National Youth Policy. This is clearly a comprehensive document. The document covers ev ery aspect of youth development. I could not think of anything that was …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, do you wish to answer that now, or do you need to . . . Hon. Tinee Furbert: I will hold on that and get the answer for the Member.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Please excuse me if I have gotten it mixed up. If I look at the number of the budget for anti -doping, I would suspect that it has been 668 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly moved to line 30065 because the anti -doping budget for …
The Chairman Chairman She said 52.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am on Head 52, page B - 254, it is the second line item, administration 62001. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Okay. Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am just curious what has been added, whether that is an additional salary or whether that is some amount of money that is going to be allocated towards the National Cultural Policy. I am just interested in finding out who or what has been added to the administration under …
The Chairman Chairman Member Jackson, if I could just pause you here just to remind myself and other Members that this debate will go on to 7:25. So, just be conBermuda House of Assembly scious of the time if you want answers to your questions.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay, thank you, Mr. Chai rman. I am just reading over my notes. Some of these the Minister answered in her brief , so I am not going to be repetitive. Folklife Bermuda, 62070. In 2020/21 we spent $100,000 for the celebration of Parliament’s 400th Anniversary I believe, which was …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Jackson. Are there any other speakers? Hearing none, Minister, are you ready to answer questions now? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, Mr. Chairman. The Chairm an: Proceed. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Honourable Member, for those questions. I have just written them down. Please forgive me because they …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson That’s fine. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Okay. There was a question in regard to whether the National Youth Policy have any meat around it, or budget for it, or are there any stipends or payments to the working group. So, there is not a dedicated budget for the working group. However, …
Ms. Susan E. Jackso n Mr. Chairman, may I just ask for clarification? Was that B -255, professional services? On page B -255? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Sorry, I was speaking to page B - 254, [cost centre] 62001. It was asked what had been added to the administration.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Got you. Thank you. Hon. Tinee Furbert: You’re welcome.
The Chairman Chairman [INAUDIBLE] Hon. Tinee Furbert: Sorry, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman No, that’s fine. I thought I heard MP Jackson speaking. But she was garbled. Please proceed, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Okay. There was a question in regard to Head 52 requiring more information in regard to the professional services. And MP Jackson , I was just going to answer the …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, I am going to halt you there. The time limit for this debate has expired, three hours. I would ask you at this time if you would move your Heads please. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Sure, Mr. Chairman. I move that Heads 71, 20 and 52 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Are ther e any objections to that? 674 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Minister. [Motion carried: Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport, Heads 71, 20 and 52 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure 2022/23.] Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. It will be repor ted to the House. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress and sought leave to sit again.] House resumed at 7:45 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Tyrrell, Chairman for the last session in Committee. Members, the Committee has risen to report progress for this evening and will resume on Friday when we resume the debate process. Member s, the next item on the Order [Paper] tonight is the second reading the Investment Business …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? Hon. E. David Burt: My sincere apologies. My sound was down. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Investment Business Amendment Act [ 2022] be now read for the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Continue, Premier. BILL SECOND READING INVESTMENT BUSINESS AMENDMENT ACT [2022] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank y ou very much, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Bill entitled the Investment Business Amendment Act [2022], the Bill, to …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, sir. Mr. Speaker, a floor amendment has been circulated for consideration of Members. The House is advised that the floor amendment affects clauses 6, 42 and the Schedule of the Bill as follows: Bermuda House of Assembly • It will insert new …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I would like to first thank the Premier for brin ging this legislation to the House. I would like to make it very clear that the One Bermuda Alliance is suppor tive of this …
Mr. Speaker . The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker . MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Whip, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I will follow the Opposition Leader’s comments thanking the Honourable Premier for bri nging this legislation forth. It has been long in coming and long needed. Mr. Speaker, the original Act, principal Act, is dated 2003, and the world has changed quite a lot since …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Whip. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker ?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MP Adams, you have the floor.
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, I will certainly be brief this evening, particularly recognising t hat this does not appear to be any sort of contentious matter, particularly after listening to the previous two speakers. But I, too, support the Bill, recognising that as the previous two speakers spoke to the financial i …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Adams. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? There are none. Mr. Premier. 680 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I thank the Opposition …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Deputy?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Speaker . House in Committee at 8: 30 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL INVESTMENT BUSINESS AMENDMENT ACT 20 22
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Investment Business Amendment Act 2022 . Premier, Minister, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much—
The Chairman Chairman One second, Mr. Premier. I have got some problems with my camera, so I am still fiddling with it to try to put me on, but continue. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 1 Hon. E. David Burt: No problem, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, before I move the clauses, I would like to …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to that amendment? There appear to be none. Continue. [Motion carried: Clause 1 amend ed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to please move clauses 1 through 5.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, clause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 of the Bill amends the principal Act in section 2 by inserting the following definitions: “Class A Registered Person”, “Class B Registered Person”, “incorporated segregated account”, “incorporated segregated accounts …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Premier. Are there any further speakers? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I just have a question for consideration by the Premier. 682 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Yes, continue, Opposition Leader, Mr. Simons. Hon. N. H. Cole …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman MP Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Premier. As it relates to clause 5 where the Authority is being given power to issue codes of conduct or prac-tice in line with other powers. As it stands right now the Authorit y has probably three, four, five codes that are pretty outdated under …
The Chairman Chairman MP Richardson, what clause are you speaking to? We are doing clauses 1 through 5.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Clause 5, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Clause 5? Okay, continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, I finished the question, if the Honourable Premier had any indication of when we would be seeing updated codes of practice, codes of conduct for practice from the BMA. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Just to respond to the questions from MP Richardson and I will go bac k to the questions from the Shadow Minister of Finance. In my brief, MP Richardson, I did state that the Authority consulted with the …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Mr. Premier, you want to move clauses 1 through 5? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 5 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 5 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 5 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move clause 6 which I know has an …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, clause 6 amends the principal Act to insert new sections 10A and 10B to provide Bermuda House of Assembly power to the Authority to make Rules prescribing pr udential and technical standards. The prudential Rules under the new section …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any speakers to the amendment? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: We support it.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Are there any objections to the amendment? No objections. Approved. [Motion carried: Amendment to c lause 6 passed. ] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I then move that clause 6 be approved as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 6 be approved as amended. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 6 passed as amended. ] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to now move clauses 7 through …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, sir. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, clause 7 amends the principal Act to amend the heading of Chapter 1 of Part III to align the same with the proposed new classes of i nvestment providers. Clause 8 repeals and replaces section …
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. Are there any speakers to clauses 7 to 17? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Opposition Leader S imons. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I would like to direct the Minister of Finance to page 7. I touched upon it before and I would just like to speak to the philosophy behind item 13A[(1)](b) which does not maintain a place in Bermuda—that is …
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Yes. Mr. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Let me try to deal with the first question that deals on page 7, section 13A, B where the Shadow Minister asks a question about companies which do not maintain a place in Bermuda and spoke about …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will accept the point which the Opposition Leader has made. But what I will say is that the most important thing for us to make sure to do is to be flex ible in these particular cases …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: —17A(3) which talks to “The Minister may, after consultation with the Authority, make an order amending the meaning of ‘maintain a place of business.’” My answer to that would be it is just to maintain flexibility. It is important to note, of course, that any …
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions on clauses 7 to 17? There appear to be none. Premier, do you want to move clauses 7 to 17? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that clauses 7 through 17 be ap-proved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 7 through 17 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 7 through 17 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to move at …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Clauses 18 through 22 amend sections 20 through 24 of the principal Act to update the sections by inserting registration references. Clause 23 repeals and replaces section 26 of the principal Act to provide for the process to be …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. Are there any speakers to clauses 18 to 41? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I only have one question. I would like to direct the Minister of Finance to page 16. And that is Bermuda House of Assembly [clause] 29 [new section] 41 …
The Chairman Chairman Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If there are no further questions on those sections, our response is as follows. Certainly, looking at the principal Act where there is no such requirement for the submission of these items and then looking what is placed here, Mr. Chairman, …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Jari on Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker. MP Ric hardson.
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question relates to clause 24 which amends section 33 of the principal Act to exclude persons issued with a test licence from the right to appeal to the tribunal for a decision made by the Authority. My question is — Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Twenty-four. Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Clause 24, Mr. Chairman. Yes, my question is even a test licence for a business, especially if it goes for a period of time, can be capital heavy and quite costly. So, one of the guarantees that a person would have going for a test l icence is that it …
The Chairman Chairman Premier? 688 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: I am happy to do so, Mr. Chai rman. Just give me one second. I am just reading section 16 fully here. Just one second. Yes, Mr. Chairman, I can certainly speak to this …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Premier. Any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Just one more question, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Mr. Richardson. Continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Clause 41 dealing with the transitional provisions for existing investment provi ders. My question relates to . . . I want to say the exemption. Hon. E. David Burt: What was that again? I’m sorry.
The Chairman Chairman Forty -one. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay, got it thank you.
Mr. Jarion Richardson My question relates to exempted persons would be expected within 12 months . . . there it is [clause] 41 subsection (3) exempted persons would be required to make an application within 12 months once the Act comes live. Does the Honourable Premier have any idea how many exempted persons …
The Chairman Chairman Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Sorry, is there a nother question, Mr. Chairman? I heard someone else speaking.
The Chairman Chairman I didn’t hear it. No. There is no one else. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay, thank you. Mr. Chairman, if I may, the question from the Honourable Member from constituency 23 is incredibly specific and I —
The Chairman Chairman I do not know if you are right to the microphone, Premier, but you are coming and going as far as volume. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay, I’m sorry. Let me just move to the centre. What I will say is that the question from the Honourable Member from constituency …
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions? Hon. N . H. Cole Simons: No, Mr. Speaker.
The Chairman Chairman There appear to be none. Mr. Premier, do you want to move [clauses] 18 through 41? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, I move that [clauses] 18 through 41 be ap-proved as printed. The C hairman: It has been moved that clauses 18 through 41 be …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. In moving clause 42, I also note that there is an amendment to clause 42. So, I will read the prov isions of the clause, and then I will ask to move the amendment.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Clause 42 provides consequential amendments to the Proceeds of Crime (Anti -Money Laundering and Anti -Terrorist Financing Supervision and E nforcement) Act 2008 and revokes the Investment Business ( Exemptions) Order 2004. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 42 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any speakers to the amendment? Oh, I am sorry. Hon. E. David Burt: I just want to check because I am relatively certain that this is supposed to read Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969, not Amendment Act 1969, because the Act came in during 1969, so I am …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Any speakers to the amendment? Any objections? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No objections.
The Chairman Chairman No objections to the amendment. Amendment approved. [Motion carried: Amendment to clause 42 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I assume there are no objections to the clause so I will move that the clause 42 be approved as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 42 be approved as mended. Any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 42 passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clause 43.
The Chairman Chairman Forty -three. Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Clause 43 pr ovides the Minister of Finance to bring the Act into operation by notice published in the Gazette.
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to that? There appear to be none. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 690 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Chairman, I move that clause 43 be a pproved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 43 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 43 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chair man, I would like to move on to the Schedule, if I …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. SCHEDULE AMENDED Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Moving on to the Schedule, there is an amendment to the Schedule which was circulated as well, and the Schedule is s tated there. But what I would like to move is that the Investment Business Amendment Bill 2022, …
The Chairman Chairman No. No. You will circulate it. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay. Those are the amendments, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to the amendments? There appear to be none. Hon. E. Dav id Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, given that the amendment has been approved, I move that the Schedule be approved as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Schedule be approved as amended. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be done. Approved. [Motion carried: Schedule passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I now move the Bill be reported to the House as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as amended. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as amended. Thank you, Mr. Premier. Thank you, Oppos ition Leader Simons and MP Richardson. Mr. Speaker? …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Members, are there any objections to the I nvestment Business Amendment Act 2022 being r eported to the House as amended? There are none. The Bill has been reported. Members, that is the end of the items on the Order Paper for today. Mr. Premier, would you …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING INVESTMENT B USINESS AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. E. Da vid Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled t he Investment Business Amendment Act 2022 be …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Bill has been read a third time by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Investment Business Amendment Act 2022 was given a third reading and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Thank you, Members for your participation. Premier, would you like to move the next piece f or us? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: No problem, Mr. Speaker. I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Fr iday March 11th at 10:00 am.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Ministers, the motion has been moved for the House to adjourn unti l Friday at 11:00 am. Hon. E. David Burt: That should be 10:00 am., Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Members? Thank you, Premier. Thank you, Members for your participation today and look forward to seeing everyone again bright and early 10:00 am on Friday. As always, be safe and stay well. Members, that brings us to a close of our proceedings for today. Good night.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Good night.
The Speaker The Speaker Good night. [At 9:17 pm the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am Friday, 11 March 2022] 692 9 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentionally left blank.]
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