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House of Assembly Session 2021/2022 537 speeches

March 4, 2022

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Session Summary

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This was primarily an information session where Ministers presented updates on major government initiatives. The Deputy Premier announced a $200,000 UK-funded climate study to assess how rising seas and storms will affect Bermuda's infrastructure, beaches, and agriculture. The Education Minister provided details on the new Signature Schools system starting this fall, which will offer specialized programs in health care, trades, finance, and STEM fields. The new Economy Minister updated progress on economic recovery projects including casino licensing and vertical farming facilities.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 4, 2022
Session 2021/2022
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Speakers 33
Speeches 537

Key Topics

Climate change study to assess risks from sea level rise and extreme weather impacts on BermudaEducation reform updates on new Signature Schools launching in September 2022Economic Recovery Plan progress including casino industry, vertical farming, and North Hamilton developmentImpact of Russia sanctions on Bermuda's aircraft registryStudent learning gaps caused by COVID-19 disruptions

Bills & Motions

No bills were debated or voted on in this session. This was a routine sitting focused on ministerial statements and one set of oral questions about education.

Notable Moments

Government acknowledged that extreme weather events that used to happen once every 100 years are now predicted to occur annually within 25 years
Over 100 seniors are on the waiting list for affordable housing at Bermuda Housing Trust properties
Question period revealed ongoing tensions between the teachers' union and Education Department

Debate Transcript

537 speeches from 33 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. Welcome to this morning’s sessio n, today’s session. We will now start the proceedings with prayer. Madam Clerk. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Shernette Wolffe, Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Clerk . Members, the House is now in session. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER MOMENT OF SI LENCE [In memory of Mr. Walter King, former MP]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, you would know that there is a tradition in this House that whenever a former Member of this Chamber has passed we normally start that following proceeding with a moment of silence in ho nour of that fallen Member who served in this Chamber. At this time I would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members , for that . Now we will start with the proceedings of the day. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 25 February 2022 ]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes of 25 February 2022 have been circulated. Are there any amendments or corrections required?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Burch. In acknowledging you, Minister Burch, let me first welcome you back to our Chambers. It is good to see you being able to join us once again. We wish you continued good health.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you. I was present last we ek.
The Speaker The Speaker You were present last week?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Well, we will make the appropr iate adjustment to the minutes. Are there any other adjustments required? There are none. The Minutes will be approved with the necessary amendment as just mentioned. Thank you. [Minutes of 25 February 2022 confirmed as amended. ] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING CLERK EXCHANGE [Correction]
The Speaker The Speaker I would just like to add a correction. Last week when I acknowledged that the A ssistant Clerk, Ms. Beale, was overseas on an assig nment, an attachment, I somehow indicated that it was in at the Jersey Islands. She is actually in the Channel Islands. So we will make …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. 438 4 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are four papers this morning. The first is in the name of the Minis ter of Transport. Actually, the first three are in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister of Transport , would you like to pr esent your papers? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, g ood …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Continue with your next. BERMUDA AIRPORT AUTHORITY ANNUAL REPORT 2020/21—RESILIENCE Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Airport Authority’s Annual Report 2020/21 —Resilience.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. You can do your next one. BERMUDA CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY 2018/19 ANNUAL REPORT —MEET THE TEAM BEHIND OUR SUCCESS Hon. W. Lawrence S cott: I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Civil Aviation A uthority’s 2018/19 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next communication is in the name of the Minister of Public Works. Minister. BERMUDA HOUSING TRUST FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED MARCH 31, 2021
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Hono urable House of Assembly the Bermuda Housing Trust Financial Statements for the year ended March 31, 2021.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker This morning we have five such Stat ements. The first Statement this morning is in the name of the Deputy Premie r, the Minister for Home Affairs. Minister , would you like to present your Statement ? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker, and thank you very much. Good …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is from the Minister of Education. Minister, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. UPDATE ON EDUCATION REFO RM— SIGNATURE SCHOOLS Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to update this House and the listening public on the amazing and exciting work that is taking place in education reform, specifically the work of Learning First. With Signature Schools …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister, would you like to present yo ur Statement? BERMUDA HOUSING TRUST AUDITED FINANCIALS FOR THE YEAR 2021
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I lay before this Honourable House the Bermuda Housing Trust [the Trust ] Audited Financial Statements for the fiscal year ending March 2021. Mr. Speaker, just like many other organi sations in Bermuda, the financial year 2020/ 21 proved to be a challenging year for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister Hayward, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, continue, Minister. ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN UPDATE Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, as the Minister of the new Ministry of Economy and Labour Ministry, I rise today to update this Honourable House on the Government’s Economic Recovery Plan [ERP] . Mr. Speaker, COVID -19 has taken a heavy toll on …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning, and final Statement for this morning, is actually from the Minister of Transport. Minister, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. IMPACT OF THE SANCTION REGIME AGAINST RUSSIA ON THE BERMUDA CIVIL AVIATION AI RCRAFT REGISTER Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Speaker, the Bermuda Civil Aviation Authority (BCAA), is responsible for the regulation and safety oversight of aviation in Bermuda and all aircraft on the Bermuda Aircraft Registry [ the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that brings us to a close of the Statements for today. We will now move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Members, there are a series of three questions. One set of questions from the Member to the Minister of Education. And those questions are from MP Jackson. MP Jackson, would you like to put your questions to the Minister? And for the public audience, these questions are for an oral …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson And good morning, Minister of Education. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good morning. QUESTION 1: MEASURING GAPS IN EDUCATION DUE TO COVID- 19
Ms. Susan E. Jackson My question is directed to the Honourable Minister of Education. Can he please i nform this Honourable House how the Ministry is qual ifying existing achievement gaps between the last published assessments and how he is going to determine the extent of learning loss experienced by our st udents given …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, MP Jackson, for that. Like many school districts globally, predictably because of the COVID -19 disruptions, through traditional schooli ng, there have been and are notable achievement gaps to student learning. The Depar tment of Education has quantified the gaps in learning …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No, I don’t have any. I am not sure if any colleague does.
The Speaker The Speaker No supplementaries then. You can put your second question. QUESTION 2: PROVIDING LEARNING SUPPORT TO MEET ACADEMIC DEFICIENCIES FOR ST UDENTS SEEKING HIGHER EDUCATION
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. That was a wholesome response. Thank you, Minister. My second question is: Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House whether the Education Ministry developed any plan for assessing students who will be applying for higher ed ucation and would possibly not be at the level required …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you for that question, and it is a very topical question. The Department of Educ ation, like school di stricts globally, recognises and acknowledges the preparation for higher education institutions required for students locally, whether at the Bermuda College or internationally . As …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Lost you, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, we seem to have lost your audio. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson There you are. Hon. Di allo V. S. Rabain: Okay. Can you hear me now?
The Speaker The Speaker We hear you now. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay. Do you want me to start from the beginning?
The Speaker The Speaker Just the piece that you read there. The last— Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay. I was quoting from Angel Per éz, CEO of the National Association for College Admissions Counseling, and she said, “ So many things that were sacred in the college admissions pr ocess may not be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minister, I am just wondering, is the Bermuda College considering preparing a like kind of pr ogramme that you just mentioned in your last sentence? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I can state that the Berm uda College does have college prep programmes and they …
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No further supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker No further supplementary. Would you like to put your third question? QUESTION 3: SUPPOR TING TEACHERS IN R EDUCING LEARNING GAPS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House if the Education Ministry is providing additional support to teachers in reducing the learning gaps of our students? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MP Jackson, the simple answer to that is yes, we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Is there a further supplementary, or a suppl ementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I do have a supplementary and I hope it is not oversimplified, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson In all of the support that the Minister has just provided, I am just wondering, given the restrictions on teachers in the past couple of years, logistically, will teachers have the time, will they have the prep periods, will they be able to get back into the school to be …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? None?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson None from me.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. No supplementaries; good. Members, that brings us to a close of the— Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, MP Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker —written questions. We will now move on to questions from the Statements that were given this morning. The Statement this morni ng from the Deputy Premier in reference to Bermuda’s climate changes, you have a question from a Member. MP Pearman, would you like to put your question now? QUESTION …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister. Minister, when you previously spoke about the Blue Shield/Blue Belt Programme before this Honour-able House, you confirmed that the programme was being fully funded by the UK Government. Is this grant that you announced today part of the funding from that programme …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you very much.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. 448 4 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Do you anticipate, Minister, that there will be any further grants sought or received? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Second supplementary. Can you give us any information as to the timeframe or [will you] announce those further antic ipated grants? Hon. Walter H. Roban: We will be receiving additional funds to pay for the additional parts of the climate study, around $219,000. These are additional …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP, those are your two supplementaries. Do you have a second question?
Mr. Scott Pearman I do, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your second question.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. QUESTION 2: BERMUDA AND CLIMATE CHANGE: A STUDY TO DETERMINE THE IMPACTS FROM SEA LEVEL RISE AND CHANGING STORM ACTIVITY
Mr. Scott Pearman Minister, on page 2 of your Statement you referenced the solar farm on what is colloquially known as the Finger, out there. Could you kindly update the House as to what is happening in relation to the solar farm? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I don’t actually believe that is a …
Mr. Scott Pearman So you don’t wish to update this House as to what is going on at the solar farm? You would rather — Hon. Walter H. Roban: I will happily update the House in a formal Statement. But this is about the cl imate change study, not about the solar farm. …
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, you state expressly about the solar farm on page 2 of your Statement. Is there —
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Me mber and Minister, one second. I am just going to do a read of that to see if it fits in to the question.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is the middle paragraph on page 2.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I have it. I have it. I have it. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I mention a number of different things in that paragraph. The solar farm is just an example. These were examples of [ar-eas]––
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —that will be impacted by climate change.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, just a minute. The paragraph in question here mentions the infrastructure and it makes reference to how things in our infrastructure impact our climate. So if there is a question to be put, the question can be related to the impact on the climate, not necessarily to that partic …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful for the direction, Mr. Speaker, and I will follow it. Minister, your Statement says that the solar farm, among other things, is under threat. Could you Bermuda House of Assembly kindly elaborate as to how the solar farm is under threat? Hon. Walter H. Roba n: As …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Minister, is there flood insurance in place for the solar farm? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Again, that is a matter —
The Speaker The Speaker That is probably operational and— Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker —I don’t think the Statement spoke to that operational side of it. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, with reading my mind.
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, if the solar farm gets — Hon. Michael H. Du nkley: I have a supplemental.
Mr. Scott Pearman —flooded as you say, how is it going to get paid for?
The Speaker The Speaker Beg your pardon?
Mr. Scott Pearman If the solar farm is flooded, how will it be paid for?
The Speaker The Speaker Again, I am going to speak to the fact that the flooding of it and the financial side of recovery from that, does not speak to the financial . . . the cl imate change which is the topic of this Statement. It is a valid question, but it does …
Mr. Scott Pearma n Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will — The Speaker: I heard another Member had a supplementary under this question. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, good morning, and supplementary on his question. To date, has the equipment on the solar [farm] been damaged due to any climate impacts such as wind or rain?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: As far as I know, no.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementar y anyone? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I would just appreciate the Minister getting back to me because I have heard ot herwise.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I would ask that you bring it to the Minister’s attention if there is something that he may not know. Hon. Wal ter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, may I also add to supplement, it would be [that the] solar [farm] is operated and owned by a private operator, not …
The Speaker The Speaker That is why I just said to the Member, if he has knowledge that you may not be aware of, he can share that knowledge with you. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, I have no involvement with the day -to-day operation of the solar [farm].
The Speaker The Speaker We understand that. We understand that. MP Pearman, do you have a third question? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I have a supplementary,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker I’m trying to get the voice. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: MP De Silva.
The Speaker The Speaker MP De Silva, put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: My supplementary is , Minister, with regard to the questions that the Opposition are trying to get to on the climate change, the former 450 4 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Minister Grant …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Member, I have cautioned everybody on this line of questioning that it has to go to the climate change impact. You are speaking to an operational matter. That is an operational matter. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker Whoever manages or runs that facility, that is operational. And under the guidance that has been given on this from me thus far, we are not talking about operational, we are talking about climate i mpact. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay, I got you, Mr. Speaker. But what …
The Speaker The Speaker That Member no longer sits in this House, Member . So if a Member in this House has a question to be addressed on this floor, it has to be addressed to somebody sitting in this House. The member who sits outside of this House could have sat here for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Pearman, do you have a third question? None? Okay. Minister, that is the only questions for you this morning. Thank you for your contribution and partic ipation. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The next Statement this morning that has questions is the Statement by the Minister of E ducation. Minister of Education, there are two Members who have questions for you. The first is the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, would you like to put your questions to the Minister? QUESTION 1: UPDATE …
The Speaker The Speaker Would you speak into the microphone a little clearer? Your volume is coming through a little soft. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: In one of the paragraphs, the Minister says, “ The current M3 students are engaged in this process as we speak in preparation for the registration process for …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a curious question. The registration pr ocess is students make a request for the school that they wish to attend and it is a process that evaluates the application. Previously, the application process was done as they came …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, he answered it.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Second question? QUESTION 2: UPDATE ON EDUCATION REFORM —SIGNATURE SCHOOLS Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Minister will know that we have a number of students who are in or pursuing careers in the arts, either fine arts or the performing arts. Is it his intention to …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I have brought multiple Ministerial Statements to this House describing the 10 signatures that have been selected after extensive consultation. Members would be aware that one of those signatures that is intended to Bermuda House of Assembly be implemented is a cultural …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: And when will you plan to deliver that? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Again, Mr. Speaker, I have brought multiple Ministerial Statements discussing the forward- moving track of education reform. We have these [first] two signatures. We will be introducing further signatures …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, I’m fine. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No..
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister, MP Jackson would like to put questions to you as well. MP Jackson, do you still have questions?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON E DUCATION REFORM —SIGNATURE SCHOOLS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, my first question just refers to the second page where the Minister had just made reference to the certifications. And I am just wondering whether any thought had been given yet on the kind of c ertification that we are looking at. Are we looking at the potential for …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Perhaps I will reread the last sentence. I understand what you are saying. It says, “c redentials recognised by industry and intern ationally recognised” which implies and that points out that we are . . . that our credentials are also talking about internationally …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I do have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I hope it isn’t too sticky a subject. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Given that our children will graduate with a certification, potentially an internationally acclaimed certification, will that in any way impact future employment of work permit holders who may not be certified in their particular fields? And I am thinking of, in particular, things like the trades, cosmetology, et cetera. Hon. …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No, no further supplementary from me that gives me —
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have a second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your second question. QUESTION 2: UPDATE ON EDUCATION REFORM —SIGNATURE SCHOOLS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson My other question is around the teachers. There w as mentioned on page 1 of the teachers coming together and figuring out how this curriculum will work for the signature schools, and I am just curious whether the Ministry thinks that there may be some, either secondment to, or transfer …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you for that question, MP Jackson. Part of the transformation process is not only the curriculum but the way the approach to teaching is done. As I talked throughout this and previous Stat ements, taking teachers and getting teachers to volunteer their time …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No supplementary from me, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Diallo V . S. Rabain: Thank you, MP Jackson. And then thank you, Opposition Leader [MP Simons].
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister, that was the final questions to you for your Statement. Thank you for your participation, Members. The next Statement this morning with questions is that from the Minister for the new Ministry of Economy and Labour. Minister, you have a question from the Opposition Whip. Opposition Whip, would …
Mr. Jarion Richardson I would, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can yo u hear me, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 1: ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, Honourable Minister of Economy and Labour, and the listening public. My first question relat es to the Minister’s Statement where he said, “ KPMG have identif ied four critical initiatives deemed mostly likely to generate a significant socioeconomic impact .” On page …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: KPMG provided a recommendation to the Government that these would be the four most likely initiatives to generate social economic benefit.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jarion Richardson: I’m not sure . . . was the answer, [the] Government picked them? Mr. Speaker, I wasn’t . . .
The Speaker The Speaker He indicated that KPMG suggested topics and— Hon. Jason Hayward: So to be specific, Mr. Speaker, KPMG provided a recommendation. So after they did their review, they provided a report that had recommendations. And the recommendations highlighted that those four key initiatives would yield the greatest social economic impact in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for the clarity. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, I do, Mr. Speaker, thank you. Would the Honourable Minister . . . he mentioned that KPMG will b e delivering an action plan, setting out key milestones, timelines and actions. When will that be shared with the public, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I will endeavour to provide regular updates on the progress of the Economic Recovery Plan, including the updates for the Project Management Office and the role of the Economic Development Department as it pertains to the monitoring of the progress on key initiatives of …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Any further supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Just a clarification on that. I had asked when the key milestones, timelines and actions will be shared with the public. And he said that regular updates will be provided. Will those regular updates be th e key milestones, timelines and action? I am just trying to be very specific …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second question or . . .
Mr. Jarion Richardson Before I ask my second question, I just want to make sure I provide any opportunities for any supplementaries. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, you have a supplementary on this one? SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to the Honourable Minister, can the Honourable Minister provide an estimated economic i mpact for each one of those four initiatives that they mentioned individually? Hon. Jason Hayward: So what …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I appreciate the Honour able Minister’s answer. Based on that answer though, then it would be hard to be certain that the economic impact from any one of those four initiatives would be significant to Bermuda. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I would have to …
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Whip, do you have a second question?
Mr. Jarion Richardson I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. QUESTION 2: ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Minister mentioned in his Statement about the vertical farming facilities being acted upon (it is at the bottom of page 4, Mr. Speaker) with the potential location under review and financial details in development. Mr. Speak er, my question to the Honourable Minister is …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I believe that the i ndividual is making an assumption that what is articulated in the Statement indicates that the vertical farming initiative is not at a more advanced stage. And so I would state that we are . . . a full business plan has …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson I have a supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jarion Richardso n I thank the Honourable Mi nister. He said a full business plan has been . . . they have a full business plan. Is it fair to say then that this full business plan is missing financial details?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I do not understa nd the nature of the question. And so anybody who does a business plan looks at the financial viability of moving and o perating in a certain jurisdiction. The question som ewhat alludes to we have a business plan that does not …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Put your second supplementary.
Mr. Jarion Richardson I think Honourable Member Dunkley had a supplementary, Mr. Speaker, before my . . . yes.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, okay. Put your . . . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: To the Honourable Mini ster, do the Board of Agriculture and the local Farmers Asso ciation support the vertical farming project? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, again the Mini stry of Economy and Labour is responsible for the overall progress of the projects. The …
The Speaker The Speaker But it has come as a supplementary, so I am not sure the relevant Minister is available at this moment. If it was a direct question, he would have had to have been available. But — Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michae l H. Dunkley: Well, the Deputy Premier is …
The Speaker The Speaker He indicated, the Minister of Economy and Labour just indicated that it is the Minister for the Cabinet Office and — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, the Board of Agriculture falls under the Department of Environmental and Natural Resources.
The Speaker The Speaker If it is the Minister of a different Ministry who is actually leading the project, that particular Mi nister that you mentioned may not be fully appraised of it. I am not answering for anybody, I am just trying to give . . . follow the direction that was given …
The Speaker The Speaker Put your second supplementary. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Minister mentions overseas partners. Have local part ners been selected as yet? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, we are still di scussing the specifics of particular projects that we want to move forward with and so …
The Speaker The Speaker I appreciate . . . Member, I appreciate where you are going, but it is not an opportunity for you to drive that point home at the end of this question. Does any other Member have a supplementary? There are none. Opposition Whip, do you have a third question?
Mr. Jarion Richardson I do, Mr. Speaker, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your third question. QUESTION 3: ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Minister, on the top of page 3 of his Statement, describes the lead initiatives, four priority initiatives, one of which being the rehabilitation of Tynes Bay infrastructure. So I would ask the Hon-ourable Minister to clarify. How did the Tynes Bay i nfrastructure get …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, the Tynes Bay redevelopment is a feature of the Economic R ecovery Plan. The need for repurposing of Tynes Bay is not a new issue. And so when developing the Economic Recovery Plan, we would have been well aware of the need to have …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson None, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks, Honourable Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister and Opposition Whip for your participation. Minister, that is the end of questions for you and your Statement this morning. The next Statement that has questions this morning is that from the Minister of Transport. Minister of Transport, you have Members who wish to put questions to …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I just ask how much time we have left in Question Period?
The Speaker The Speaker This started at 10:48 so it will end at 11:48. 456 4 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 1: IMPACT OF THE SANCTION REGIME AGAINST RUSSIA ON THE BERMUDA CIVIL AVIATION’S AIRCRAFT REGISTER
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay. Thank you. Good morning, Minister. You have been very specific here saying that this information is solely speaking to the financial effects. I am just curious what is the direct financial impact on the Bermuda Civil Aviation Authority [BCAA] from these sanctions on our aircraft registry.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes. As we speak right now, there are no financial impacts on the Bermuda Civil Aviation Authority’s financial statement. If these sanctions extend for an additional three months, it is projected that there could be approximately a $5 mi llion impact. If these sanctions go …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson I have a supplementary, Mr. Speaker. MP Richardson.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Whip.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you. Would the Honourable Minist er be able to tell us, when he says, “financial impact,” is he meaning just in the collection of regulatory fees, or is he mean-ing additional line items. For example, inspection costs will increase. I just want to be clear about what financial …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: It would be the collection of regulatory fees, the collection of revenue.
The Speaker The Speaker Good. Any further supplementary? There is none. MP Jackson, do you have a second questi on?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I do not have. I am going to defer to my colleague.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. And thank you for your participation. Minister, there are two other Members who have questions for you this morning. The next is MP Pearman. MP Pearm an, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: IMPACT OF THE SANCTION REGIME AGAINST RUSSIA ON THE BERMUDA CIVIL AVIATION’S …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minister, thank you for your Statement this morning on the effect and impact of sanctions on the Civil Aviation Aircraft Register. In your Statement you say that you will aim to provide an update in the near future. Can you give us a sort of timeframe …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, we will be taking the temperature and keeping our finger on the pulse as things are very fluid over the weekend. And depending on what happens over the weekend will [determine] the timeline for the next Ministerial Statement. But you can expect a Ministerial …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Thank you, Minister. Just to my original question, Will that Stat ement deal with the EU sanctions? Because, obviously, the vast majority of the aircraft are Irish- based or Irishleased. And Ireland being part of the EU, it is the EU sanctions that are most relevant to that. …
Mr. Scott Pearman I’m grateful. Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. QUESTION 2: IMPACT OF THE SANCTION REGIME AGAINST RUSSIA ON THE BERMUDA CIVIL AVIATION’S AIRCRAFT REGISTER
Mr. Scott Pearma n Minister, you were at pains in your Statement and said twice that you were only speaking to financial issues and not foreign policy i ssues. Is there a reason that you are not stating whether our Government is supportive of these sanc-tions? Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Minister. Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman I very much hope that this Government will express its support for the sanctions in the immediate future. And if that does not come from you, Minister, given your answer, hopefully it will come from someone else because, obviously, the world is watching. Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I was looking for a question in there, Member. That wasn’t a question. That was just a—
Mr. Scott Pearman I can put it more bluntly —
The Speaker The Speaker This is question period. You said you — [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker You need to form it in a question next time.
Mr. Scott Pearman Will the Minister or this Gover nment be giving a Statement of support for the sanctions against Russia? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: The Ministry of Transport through the BCAA are in compliance with all EU and UK sanctions. And we will continue to comply with the EU and UK sanctions …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank yo u, Minister.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, that was rather like the answer I was anticipating. But I put the question because you told me to.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, well, this is question and answer period, so when a Member puts something to the Mi nister, it should be in a question form.
Mr. Scott Pearman You are quite right, Mr. Speaker, and I am glad I did so and I thank the Minister for his Statement in response.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Is there a third question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Not from me, Mr. S peaker, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, the last Member who has a question for you this morning is the Opposition Whip. Opposition Whip, would you like to put your question. QUESTION 1: IMPACT OF THE SANCTION REGIME AGAINST RUSSIA ON THE BERMUDA CIVIL AVIATION’S AIRCRAFT REGISTER
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you Honourable Minister. My question as it relates to his Statement on the impact of the sanction regime in Bermuda, Does the Minister have any indic ation that we are going to have to seize assets similar to what we are seeing overseas, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I am saying this in this way. The way we are looking at our regulatory r esponsibility, we are curren tly first focused on having the assets returned or make it to jurisdictions outside of sanctioned airspace so that they can be recovered by our …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson No, tha t’s great. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. Ministers, Members, that brings us to a close of the question- and-answer period this morning. We would have had about five minutes left in our timed period. I thank you for that. We now move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to make a comment on this section? 458 4 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, I can do that.
The Speaker The Speaker Sounds like the Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like for this House to send congratulations to Ms. Pat Nesbitt. She will be retiring as a teacher. As many would know, she is an icon in the performing art world, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Any other Member?
The Speaker The Speaker Sounds like a Member from the East End. MP Swan, would yo u like to make a contribution?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start off by congratulating those recipients of the Founder’s and Drum Major [Awards] for the Progressive Labour Party over the weekend. The Drum Major Awardees were Michelle Khaldun, Aunt Betty Smith , Rose Douglas from St. George’s , Ianthia …
The Speaker The Speaker You recognise that we did give a m oment of silence this morning to him.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, sir, I did. But I ce rtainly could not let this opportunity pass without sa ying, putting some words to —
The Speaker The Speaker Oh no, I don’t mind you putting words to it; but the comment seemed like you had missed this morning. I just wanted to bring that to your attention.
Mr. Huber t (Kim) E. Swan I was there. I made sure I was there bright and early, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Am I going to get an extra two minutes for that?
The Speaker The Speaker You can finish up your time.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Okay , thank you, Mr. Speaker. But no, Mr. Speaker, myself, Darren Woods, the late Glen Simmons, Dwayne Pearman, Cornell Bean, Bradley Johnson— many of the young people Bermuda House of Assembly would never have been golfers of the calibre that we are, or were, if it wasn’t for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —[appreciate] how signi ficant [he] was, and it is not lost on me, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. And I do reco gnise those names you called. There are a lot of Death Valley names there. So you were in familiar territory there, eh? Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Education, you have your three minutes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the comments by the Deputy Speaker for Ms. Nesbitt. I do know her as a very passionate teacher in the system for the performing …
The Speaker The Speaker Sandys South? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Smith’s. Smith’s! I’m s orry. Smith’s.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. I didn’t know about Sandys, I thought I had missed something there. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: He ran seven elections prior to tasting victory. And also, of course, Mr. Speaker, you would know that the venerable Ms . Ann Webb, another constituent of mine was recognised for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Simmons -Wade.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you. I would like to associate with the remarks in regard to the Founder’s Day awardees and the Drum Major awardees. Specifically for my chair, Ianthia Butler, who has actually been, I will use the word, “partia lly” responsible for getting seven MPs in Warwick North East. I would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, you have your three minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker , I would like to certainly be ass ociated with the congratulatory remarks that were given to Bermudian high jumper Sakari Famous. Certainly, the Minister of Education recognised her accomplis hments. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Would any ot her Member like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have your three minutes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. I won’t take three minutes.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I would like to send condolences to the family of the late Rosemary Outerbridge. She is from Smith’s Parish and her family actually used to own [ INAUDIBLE] years ago. She died at the ripe old age of [95] and she was lucid …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Some Hon. Member s: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Dunkley, you have your three minutes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too would like to be associated with the congratulations by colleagues in regard to young Ms. Famous and her outstanding achiev ements. It is certainly a delight to see young Bermudi-ans …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Associate me, please, Honourable Member. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I would be happy to ass ociate the Honourable Member —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Associate me, as well, MP Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, all Members, and certainly the Honourable Member from St. George’s, the professional golfer, he would know the calibre of Mr. Talbot. It was a joy to watch him and to listen to him. He taught so much to so …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Yes, Mr. Speaker. Th e Speaker: Yes, I hear MP Lister. You have your three minutes.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I won’t be t hat long. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to send some congratulations out to some constituents of mine. Mr. Calvin Borris of 17 Warwick Lane, on Tuesday he ce lebrated his 65th birthday. So I want to send congrat ulations to him. …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are two [Government] Bills to be introduced this morning. The first is in the name of the Deputy Premier, Minister of Home Affairs. Minister, would you like to present your Bill? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I did not get my recital . . . I don’t …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. It should be on your email or your Permanent Secretary’s email, probably. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Just one second, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker While you are doing that let me see if the Attorney General . . . Are you ready to proceed with the your [Bill], Attorney General, while the Mini ster sorts out his matter? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes, I am, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. We will allow the Attorney G eneral to put hers while you sort yourself out there, Mi nister. Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, Members. FIRST READING CANNABIS LICENSING ACT 2022 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, I am introduci ng the following …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Just a minute, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. You can basically take the same wording— Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, that is what I am going to do.
The Speaker The Speaker —that the Attorney General just used. FIRST READING ENDANGERED ANIMALS AND PLANTS AMENDMENT ACT 2022 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Sp eaker, I wish to table for the benefit of the House of Assembly the Enda ngered Animals a nd Plants Amendment Act 2022. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Attorney General. Those were the Bills for today. We will now move on. OPPOSI TION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker For the listening public, we are here today to listen to the [Reply] from the Opposition to the Budget Statement that was produced last week by the Minister of Finance. That will be done this morning after which we will start the open Economic Debate on the budget for this …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, is it appropriate at this time if we move the Motions and get all of those items out of the way before we move for lunch?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you can actually do that so that when we come back the Opposition Leader can just go rig ht into the presentations. I was actually going to call on you to do just that so that we would not have to call on you again after lunch and just …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. We have now moved into that phase. Opposition Leader, I trust you have been following my comments, which means that once we come back from lunch at two o’clock you will be able to do a full presentation without interruption. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: …
The Speaker The Speaker Basically, I said being the clock is tic king and we have g ot less than 20 minutes on the clock, I am sure your presentation [is] more than 20 minutes. So rather than have you start, at this point we will probably be down to about 15 minutes by …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, the House now stands adjourned until 2:00 pm and we will back at that time for the presentation of the Opposition’s Reply. Thank you, Members. Proceedings suspended at 12:15 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Hon. D ennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker It is now 2:00 pm and we will be able to resume the debate for today. The House is now in session. For the listening audience, this morning we concluded the early phases of the [Orders of the Day ]. The main business for the remaining part of this day …
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you now have the floor. THE OPPOSITION’S REPLY TO THE BUDGET STATEMENT 2022/23 Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, it is an understatement to say that we are living in unprecedented times. A global contagion of fear, an endless parade of viruses, social and civil unrest, and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Opposition Leader. Members, the Opposition Leader has pr esented a Reply to this year’s Budget [Statement], and now we will begin to have the open economic discussion on this Budget and the Reply. Would any Member wish to speak at this time? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Hayward? Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Hayward, you have the floor. It is 4:17. Bermuda House of Assembly DEBATE ON THE BUDGET STATEMENT AND REPLY TO THE BUDGET Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, all of Bermuda should be disturbed by what they heard just now, b ecause they heard the Opposition rehash information that is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister Hayward. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, and just quickly, I saw Minister Dunkley yield to the Member of the O pposition, so I am ready.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 30 minutes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I appreciate the Honour able Premier’s attentive eye to this debate tonight. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We face a very critical time in our history and we cannot underestimate the impact of what has tak-en place over the last two years …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House when he says “only now” and then “issue of sabotage” in the past. The Progressive Labour Party’s position in Opposition, Mr. Speaker, is the position which they hold now. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Point noted. Member — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, just be mindful that there are records in the past that could verify what was said. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am sure, Mr. Speaker, I have looked at those records. But when you disrupt the first meeting, a public meeting, that is disrupting progress from here. Now, …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House, again, when he said he would like to give credit to former Minister Caines’ and party headwinds. There was a bipartisan commi ttee and the objections came from his Members …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Member. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, we will have to disagree on that because information from my party Members, my colleagues, shows that to be different. But I just make that point and we do not need to debate that now because it is he said and I …
The Speaker The Speaker Please do, thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, also in r eflecting on the Budget that the Honourable Premier delivered last Friday, another item that stood out to me is this approach to blame the OBA. Mr. Speaker, the record clearly shows that the PLP has been the …
The Speaker The Speaker You have four minutes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, with tourism it is important that we have some progress there. And it is also important with tourism, Mr. Speaker, that the BTA earns its keep. It seems like they have been neutered under the current Minister, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I will speak.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert — Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker —you have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member who just finished speaking talks about political rhetoric. And I thought I would look up that word. It says, “language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience.” And when I heard …
The Speaker The Speaker You hav e a minute and 30 seconds. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the time has gone by too fast. I move that we increase the time for everybody to speak to an hour.
The Speaker The Speaker Not supported, not after the effort was made to get the Rules where they are now. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, this Gover nment is committed to keep our debt ceiling at $3.5 [billion]. And, Mr. Speaker, some extraordinary thing could happen again. If we would start increasing the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any Member? Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, MP Richar dson. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, our Members are waiting to allow Members of the Opposition to speak.
The Speaker The Speaker Are any of you . . . are you going to speak now?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to speak?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, can you hear me? MP Richardson.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Office I see your camera come on, it looks like the Opposition Whip.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, sir. Can you hear me now? 494 4 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You have your 30 minutes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I dou bt I will take that much time. My points are fairly condensed. Mr. Speaker, I rise this evening to contribute to the Debate as it relates to the Government’s Budg-et for 2022/23. Mr. Speaker, before I go too far down that road, I would …
The Speaker The Speaker You have a little distortion coming through your microphone right now, you may want to get a little . . . you started off nice and clear, but there is a little distortion now.
Mr. Jarion Richardson How is that, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Much better.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay, great. The Budget aims to “ restore some measure of hope to the people of Bermuda. ” And I could not agree more, Mr. Speaker. We are in desperate need of hope, now more than ever. As I was saying, the calamity that is COVID -19 has radically changed …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, did you shift just now? Your volume is getting distorted again.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Maybe. Let me go this way. How is that, Mr. Speaker? The Speaker: That is perfect there.
Mr. Jar ion Richardson Okay, that is it. And we all know that tax reform . . . that our tax base needs to be diversified. And you know, this is unarguable. And yet, somehow, we are still saying what we are going to do about it, not what we have done about it. …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, you need to shift back to the position you were in because your microphone got distorted again.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Let me try this. How is that, Mr. Speaker? The Spe aker: Every time you go back to that position you are clear.
Mr. Jarion Richardson It is almost a stress position, so this will be interesting.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, so we need transparent language and we need to be abso lutely crystal clear and precise on what exactly it is that we are doing, how we are doing it, who is involved, and when we expect deliverables. This is project management 101. We simply cannot be esoteric and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I hear . . . is that MP Adams? Is that you?
Mr. Jache Adams Yes, indeed, it is.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Adams, you are going to have the microphone, but just for the benefit of all Members, I am s tepping out of the Chair and the Deputy Speaker will be in charge of the House until I return. Okay, Members, you are in the hands of the Deputy Speaker. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MP Adams, you have the floor.
Mr. Jache Adams Good evening, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I just want to piggy -back on one of the comments that the previous speaker spoke about when he asked about, you know, within the Budget [Statement] and even the comments today, constantly refer to the One Bermuda Alliance. So, I want to make it …
Mr. Jache Adams Come on, Zane, I’m here. Mr. Deputy Speaker, another incorrect comment by the Opposition Leader is when he went on to say that “I have been advised that, yet again, Berm uda has missed a deadline for its commitment to the EU Code of Conduct Council.” This is an egregious …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP, can I —
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Deputy Speaker, in the —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP, can I just interrupt you for a second to pass over to MP Lovitta Foggo, who will take the Chair. [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Acting Speaker, in the Chair] The Acting Sp eaker: Mr. Deputy Speaker, yes, I have heard you. So, I am taking over, and Mr. Adams, …
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You are welcome.
Mr. Jache Adams So, from Speaker, Deputy Speaker, now Madam Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I am glad you are recognising my sex.
Mr. Jache Adams Madam Acting Speaker, in the Reply to the Opposition they continue to ask for details and they ask for the Plan. I want to focus correc tly [on what they said], that this is the most non - specific Budget Statement ever presented. The reason they keep saying this, the …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Madam Acting Speaker , I would like to say a few words. It is MP Susan Jac kson.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, Member, you have the floor. Let me just tell you it is now 6:48, you have 30 minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. Madam Acting Speaker, I am going to take a little different tack on this debate this evening, and I am going to accept the challenge of the Premier when he said that we need to look at some solutions. So, I am going to take …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Member, what is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER An. Hon. Member: I was wondering if the Honourable Member needs to declare some interest.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Member, is there any interest you need to declare?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am not aware of the interest I need to declare. An. Hon. Member: Okay, thank you, Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Member, continue. [Crosstalk] Ms. Susan E. Jackson: The other is solar development. So, we have a couple of companies that have already started on the Island. And if we had an opportunity to have legislation that would allow for more homes to have installed on their roof and within any …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Member s who wish to speak? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, Member Burgess, you have the floor. It is now 7:14. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you. Thank you very much. Madam Acting Speaker, I would like to just to mention the people of Ukraine, the heinous acts of aggression—one cannot understand —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Member, I am sorry to interrupt you. Are you able to turn on your camera, M ember? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I am not seeing you. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Okay, it should be. It should be on.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker It is c oming up now, I believe. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Okay.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is black. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: At least I am there; I don’t know. I do not know what has happened, but . . .
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I am just going to ask if any other Member can see you on the screen. I am not seeing you. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Well— Hon. Walter H. Roban: No, I cannot see the Deputy Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson It is almost as if you might have— Hon. Derri ck V. Burgess, Sr.: Obviously, I am having some difficulties, but I would ask you to let me conti nue.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I will indulge you, Member , while you try to get your screen up while you speak. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, I do not know i f I can get it up, but anyhow, let me say again —here we go—
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, you are up. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, you are up now. We can see you. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, my concern is about the heinous acts of aggression toward the people of Ukraine. I am concerned about that and I am incensed by it because there …
Mr. Vance Campbell I believe Member De Silva is ahead of me.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay , but I do not hear him.
Mr. Vance Campbell Oh, he has his camera off, so—
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, Member De Silva — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay, I have my —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I definitely did not hear you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Can you hear me?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes. Thank you, Member Campbell, for pointing that out, but he was not coming through. Member De Silva, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay, let us make sure that the clock does not continue from MP Burgess , that would be great. Madam Acting …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I definitely remember that. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am sure you do. And they told our people to take furlough days. And they cut out the exhibition, you know, that was our people’s event. They told people to take pay cuts, all these things. Well, we know …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, I do, Member. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. FutureCare, never before seen in our history. Now we have got all segments of our society using FutureCare. All segments of our society. We had the docks for the cruise ships that were built. Lord knows where this country …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I think I understand that expression. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, now the other thing is they always say that they spearheaded and got St. Regis started. Well, that is not quite true because Derrick Burgess when he was the Minister of Works was the one that demolished …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I am sorry, Member! You have about 15 minutes left. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay, beautiful. Fairmount Southampton. Now, let me say this . . . let me talk about Morgan’s Point first, because then I can dovetail into Fair mount afterwards. The Opposition’s comments on page 13 …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member . This must be the first time that you finished ahead of time in the debate. [Laughter]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker At this time, I want to recognise the MP Burgess back to his seat as the Deputy Speaker. MP Burgess, are you available? [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Deputy Speaker, in the Chair]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, thank you. Yes, thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. I appreciate your service. Any further speakers? Are there any further s peakers? Hon. E. David Burt: I am sure there may be.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You know, because the gavel is nearby.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes, yes, Member Tinee Furbert is going to take the floor . . . to speak, sorry.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Pardon me?
Ms. Lovi tta F. Foggo Member Tinee Furbert is going to speak.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay, Minister Furbert you have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Deputy Speaker. I want to start off this evening, Deputy Speaker, with something that has been bothering me. It came from earlier, Deputy Speaker, and it was . . . I have heard it said in this House …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Deputy Speaker?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It sounds like MP Tyrrell —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have the floor, MP Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Putting up my video.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Let us try again. Are you seeing me?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You are probably down there with—
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Are you seeing me now, Dep uty?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker —Lawrence Scott. Yes, we see you now. Lawrence, since you turned off —
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good evening, Deputy Speaker. Thank you for allowing me to briefly weigh in on the Economic Debate. I promise not to be long. And if permitted before I start, can I preface my r emarks with a one- line quote from the most recent Speech from the Throne?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Uh-huh.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you. I will quote. It was on page 1 and it says, and I am reading it, “If you want to change the culture, you will have to start by chan ging the organization.” Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker, I had planned to speak this evening on two main points. …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell I hear somebody in the bac kground. Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker, am I okay? [No audible response]
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Okay, I will go on. As I was saying, there is some modernisation of the use of our public service vehicles which will provide an environment for job creation and entrepr eneurship in the transport industry. I will leave the full details to the Minister to share that in Committee …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Tyrrell. Are there any further speakers? Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Anthony Richardson: Mr. Deputy Speaker?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, it sounds like MP Ri chardson. You have the floor, Mr. Richardson.
Mr. Anthony Richardson MP Richardson from the east.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Uh-huh.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good evening, [Deputy] Speaker. I am going to go back to my previous analogy in terms of a small boat off of Devonshire dock. And it speaks to the idea that you are off the dock and the boat springs a leak and you are with somebody, if you like …
Mr. Anthony Richardson He said, “We must conti nue to capitalise on opportunities to work together t owards a common end. As a nation, we must chart our way together through economic recovery and rehabil itation. Bermuda is small and agile enough to do it.” I was like, okay, this is a good …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Richardson. Are there any further speakers? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker, a fellow from the Opposition —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Pearman? Is that Mr. Pearman? Hon. E. David Burt: No, that was me, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Oh, I thought tha t was Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker . [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Dennis Lister III Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to speak. It’s MP Lister.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Lister? Okay. MP Lister, you have the floor.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Good evening, Deputy Speaker, good evening to the listening audience and good evening to my fel-low colleagues. Mr. Deputy Speaker, tonight I will speak on the Budget presented for 2022/23. We have heard much said t onight in support of the Budget noting the many good …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Lister. Are there any further speakers?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Foggo, you have the floor.
Ms. Lov itta F. Foggo Yes, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. Thank you for the acknowledgement, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I just want to share with the submission given by the . . . in the Reply. I felt somewhat aghast especially when I heard little things like, for instance, when it came to trash pickup that, you …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have one minute.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Okay, thank you, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker . I can say that there are these types of measures, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that all of us are tasked with— not just the frontbench, the backbench as well. And we are collectively putting our brainpower together to ensure that through all of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, MP Foggo. Let me just remind folks that the deb ate has just gone over seven hours and any further speakers will be only for 20 minutes. Any further speakers? Any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. That sounds like Member Pearman. You have the floor, si r.
Mr. Scott Pearman It is, Mr. Deputy Speaker ! You called for me earlier, and here I am, so—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, we missed you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Can you hear me this evening?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I hear you very well.
Mr. Scott Pea rman Excellent, excellent. I got a better speaker tonight, I hope.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Deputy Speaker, before I start, I would like to echo your words and the words of some other speakers this evening, just to say that, you know, Bermuda is in solidarity with the people of Ukraine and let us hope that the world comes to its senses sooner rather …
Mr. Scott Pearman —I would like to — POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, sir? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. The stat ement in my Budget Statement did not speak to the fact of greater immigration, it spoke to the fact that we need to …
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker, I will let the listening public decide for themselves. I was just about to ask your leave to read verbatim from Premier Burt’ s speech from last week.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. He said this, “ Mr. Speaker, population growth is not simply an option for Bermuda, it is a necessity for our survival. It is not possible for Bermuda’s economy to grow w hile our population declines and ages. A declining population in a small island state increases the …
Mr. Scott Pearman He says this, “ Mr. Speaker, this growth of jobs does not mean that all persons need to be imported for the roles to be filled. ” I agree. He co ntinues, “ If we do our job” (that’s we the Government) “to make Bermuda a fairer place to live …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, what is your point of order, Premier? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member may be clever, but he is not going to go ahead and say he is not going to take cheap shots then say that the time it has taken to get to …
Mr. Scott Pearman You know, I would respectfully suggest, Mr. Deputy Speaker — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman —that when someone pays a compliment, you should take it. Hon. Jason Hayward: Point of order, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker .
Mr. Scott Pearman And if you do not want my support, Premier, that is fine; and I will move on.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker One second . . .
Mr. Scott Pearman I am afraid I cannot hear you,
Mr. Deputy Speaker . The Deputy Speaker the deputy speaker Yes, no, Mr. Premier, I did not see anything wrong with it. It seemed like a compl iment to me. He said that is what he would say. Hon. Jason Hayward: I have a point of order, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker One second, Mr. Hayward. Yes, so I did not see anything wrong with it. What is your point of order, Mr. Hayward? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker, the Honourabl e Member is misleading the House in terms of the OBA’s willingness to work with …
Mr. Scott Pearman Oh, stop it. Hon. Jason Hayward: The OBA rejected the offer to sit on a bipartisan immigration reform committee and they sai d that they would not participate in bipartisan immigration reform with the Progressive Labour Party.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Deputy Speaker, this is pr ecisely the problem I just identified at the beginning of my speech. Put the rocks down, Minister Hayward. If you want us to help, we will help. The people of Bermuda want us to work together. I am identifying som ething that was in …
Mr. Scott Pearman Excuse me? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Try being genuine.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Hang on —
Mr. Scott Pearman Ah, MP De Silva.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Hang on, hang on. We are not going to have this here, you guys.
Mr. Scott Pearman All right, thank you, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Pearman, continue. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Look, the simple fact is that everyone wants high-paying jobs for Bermudians. The question is, how do we get there? We have been suggesting that i mmigration reform is the way forward. And I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Sorry, I had myself muted. You have five minutes.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Well, I will speed up a little bit. One of the things I am disappointed by this Budget [Statement] from the Premier is a lack of real solutions. The MP who interjected earlier said earlier in his speech, Premier David Burt is going nowhere in a hurry. I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman It says, “ If our conservative rev enue estimates are exceeded,” (so that is one,) “If our conservative revenue estimates are exceeded and ,” (two, if) “ spending remains in line with estimates, we will provide additional tax relief . . . .” So there are two hurdles that need …
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Deputy Speaker, moving to the issue of casinos. Where are the casino licences? What is the Premier waiting for? Some are saying — Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker . Point of order. Point of order, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker . The Deputy Spe …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, Mr. Pearman, that is correct.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Premier. Okay. We will see. Well, if it has nothing to do with the Government , why has there been such a furore over the fact that he handles the portfolio? My point is this: Let us get on with it. It is time to lead or get …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have one minute.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. This is not good. We were told earlier today that it may, and I say may because I do not know, then because a deadline was missed I very much hope that is not the c ase— Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker He only has one minute. You can reply when you come. Continue, Mr. Pearman. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: But he is misleading the House, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker . It was not a missed deadline and that was corrected by a press release from the Ministry …
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am clearly not misleading the House when I say it may and I do not know, but it was said earlier. That is not mislea ding the House. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I will finish. On the debt, the Premier has said that the OBA doubled the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Mr. Pearman—
Mr. Scott Pearman —let us not worry about who caused the debt —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your 20 minutes is up, Mr. Pearman. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Let us hope that the debt issue is solved. Thank you, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Any further speakers?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, good evening, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Swan, you have the floor. [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Deputy, before the Honourable Member Swan b egins, I would just acknowledge that I am back in the Chair and I thank you Deputy for your participation in the Chair this evening. Much apprec iated. Mr. Swan, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker . Good evening to you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I have heard the Opposition use the refrain that, you know, they are trying to be helpful in a very passive- aggressive manner, I might add. And it is not lost on me and others as well. Mr. Opposition Leader actually put it in writing in one particular …
The Speaker The Speaker MP, you are about to wind down in your 20 minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I was on the Rules and Privilege Committee and when they changed those rules. Oh, dear, dear, dear, h ow sorry I am. Because I would have just been getting in full flight right about now when I first came in this Honourable House, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker You hear the bell. Thank you for your contribution.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Have a great evening.
The Speaker The Speaker You too, now. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this point?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker. Can you hear me? The Sp eaker: MP Cannonier, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And I appreciate some of the sentiments that have been echoed within this parliamentary session about working together. And I know that th is has been scoffed back and forward, but I do believe that all 36 Members of this House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Member Cannonier , we ask you just like we did earlier with Opposition Whi p. Just get a little closer to your microphone. You are starting to get a bit distorted.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker , sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker When the Opposition Whip was speaking . . . when he got closer it cleared his distortion. You may need to just get a little closer to wherever —
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I have another computer. I just walked—
The Speaker The Speaker You are louder now. You are louder right there. You are coming through clear again.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I’m coming through clear again?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And so, it is troubling for all of us to witness and to be able to see where our young people are exhibiting these antisocial behaviours. And we are seeing more and more crimes comm itted with knives and the like. And we have got …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker. He’s coming through gar bled, Mr. Speaker. We cannot understand one word. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Opposition, your microphone is acting up again there.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I’m moving. I’m moving .
The Speaker The Speaker You are moving to the other one? Okay. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And Mr. Speaker, that was for like the last five minutes. We didn’t hear anything. Probably, that is the way it should be.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier My apologies, Mr. Speaker. Can you hear me now?
The Speaker The Speaker We hear you loud and clear.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you very much. I apologise to the public for the garble. We thought that the microphone was working fine. Apparently, it is not working very well at all. And so, we are looking for clarity on so many things. And when we get this going back and forth …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —we saw a route forward and we took the route forward.
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on just a minute, Member . There is a point of order . POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, the Honourable Member is misleading the House, Mr. Speaker. He gave a $160 million guarantee for a $33 million cleanup. Explain that.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Obviously, Mr. Speaker. He obviously is lacking on the facts there. He’s saying $33 million—that was the amount that was put aside. But to clean it up is going to cost — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —way more than that. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker
The Speaker The Speaker Point of or der. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, if you look in the Opposition Leader’s [Reply] today , I pulled those figures right from his [Reply] . He said $33 million clean- up. And I said, why did we give them a $160 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Ye s, well let me break it down to a simple fact. If you have a bag of apples si tting next to you, and all the apples are good in the bag, you are going to buy it. But if you have a bag of apples that are all …
The Speaker The Speaker You have got a minute left.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. [He said] 90 per cent of them are a serious challenge because all we are doing is shifting one customer from one place to another because we only have 33,000 adults working and spending money. That is nowhere near enough to maintain our standard of living in this Island. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for that. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Vance Campbell Yes, Mr . Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Campbell, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Speaker, I believe in my short time in this House on a couple of occasions I have urged Members on both sides to work together and even recall saying I do not think I’ m naïve in thinking that is possible. But what I do know, Mr. Speaker , …
The Speaker The Speaker MP, you have a minute left.
Mr. Vance Campbell —their tax revenues. It makes sense to refinance debt whilst inte rest rates are low, Mr. Speaker. This does not elim inate the debt, but it does reduce the cost of that service to the country. Is this the best option? Not in an ideal world. But we do not …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Appreciate your contribution. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Christopher Famous Good evening, Mr. Speaker—
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous, we will set the clock. You have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous —and good evening to the people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, two weeks ago we saw som ething called a k abuki theat re where people were pr etending like they actually cared about the former F inance Minister. This week they changed the script. And they have gone back to …
The Speaker The Speaker As long as it is short.
Mr. Christopher Famous It is very short. Well, kind of short, kind of long.
The Speaker The Speaker Read quickly.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, every MP has to write a declaration of interest, correct? Right, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Mr. Christopher Famous Every MP. But guess what, MP Scott Pearman’s declaration of interest reads . . . This is public knowledge or is a public document. So, I am not reading anything out of class. The investment companies identified, invest no n-listed Bermudian companies included: Antares Limited, I nsurance; Argus, Insurance; Ascendant/BELCO; …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive]
Mr. Jarion Richardson I think the Honourabl e Member is imputing improper motive. And the specific ations of how to reduce Government costs was not covered in my contribution, so I just want to make sure that we did not—
Mr. Christopher Famous You are cutting into my time, man.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker He is making his point of order.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Sorry, Mr. Speaker. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. Mr. Christopher Famous So, let’s keep it real, Mr. Speaker. Every civil servant pays his rent or pays mortgage or both, and they buy groceries. So, if they cut those jobs, Mr. Speaker, somebody is not going to be able to pay their mortgage. Somebody is not going to be able to buy …
The Speaker The Speaker Just be mindful of parliamentary language.
Mr. Christopher Famous Well, sorry . . . not telling the truth, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, under the [late] Honourable Walter Brown , I was asked—myself and others were asked—to serve on the Comprehensive Immigration Reform board, or whatever, committee. We served there with pride. We served there guiding our country to move …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Walter H. Roban : Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Deputy Premier. You have your 20 minutes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Good night, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good night. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good night to you. Good night to Members of the listening audience and to all of my esteemed colleagues. Tonight, I wish to thank so many of my esteemed colleagues for their contributions today in this debate. I find myself once again, as I …
The Speaker The Speaker Keep your language parliamentary. 536 4 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walte r H. Roban: Well, I will rephrase it : The deliberate effort by the Opposition Leader to not tell the truth today about the Land Valuation Department, Mr. Speaker. There is a clear …
The Speaker The Speaker You have about nine minutes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Fine. I will spend the rest of the time talking about what this Government is doing. This Budget has been shaped to help the people who need to be helped during this time. This Budget deals with the issues. It ensures …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have just under a minute left. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, Mr. Speaker, I won’t waste my time going over the time that I have been afforded. I just want to make sure that my contribution supports the fact that this Government has put forth a Budget of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister, Deputy Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this point? Any other Member? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am happy to help to close this out. I am sure you would like that.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. You have your 20 minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I am marking the time at 11:17.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, it has been an i nteresting debate this afternoon, and I just want to start my comments tonight by thanking all of the Members who have spoken this evening. Certainly, I would like to commend the Members of the Government side who have …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker. MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading and imputing improper motive]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Premier is mi sleading the House. First of all, he is imputing improper motive to the Opposition. Secondly, the Opposition’s [INAUDIBLE ] of a joint immigration committee for three years and not hing ever . . . there was one Bill that came out of it and it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Mr. Premier, be mindful of his comments. Hon. E. David Burt: I am happy to be mindful of his comments, but I also know that this Government has passed more immigration reform legislation than [the OBA] were able to do, Mr. Speaker. And we passed it and it …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry?
The Speaker The Speaker I said continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Speaker, just like when it comes to pensions and there are very few things that can change it. When it comes to budgets, there are very few things that you can do wit h a budget. You can increase taxes …
Speaker The Speaker This Budget delivers relief now and relief later, into the future. Because the world is in uncertain times, Mr. Speaker, and governments need to be ready and prepared to support the citizens whom they represent. It funds our promises. As I have said, the critical promises which we made in …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. The House has now been moved into the Committee. We begin on Monday. Thank you, Mr. Premier. That brings us to a close of the Orders of the Day, business of the day. Premier, there is just one other item …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. Before we do that, can we rise and report progress? That means Deputy Speaker, you come to the Chair so that we can have the House put into Committee? Correct? Right. So, right now, the Deputy, you will come into …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Deputy Speaker will take us into Committee, Premier, and then you can move the heads. House in Committee at 11: 36 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] 542 4 March 2022 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND E XPENDITURE FOR …
The Chairman Chairman We are now in Committee of Supply.
Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I now move that Head 21, Mi nistry of Health Headquarters; [Head] 22, Department of Health; [Head] 24, Hospitals; and Head 91 be co nsidered.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that these heads be considered and reported to the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Let’s rise and report progress for now. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee r ise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again on Monday, 7 March 2022.
The Chairman Chairman Will do. Mr. Speaker. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress, and sought leave to sit again.] House resumed at 11:37 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2022/23
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Deputy. Thank you, Premier. We are now back into the House. Premier, you can move that m otion to close us out for the evening. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. There is a question that I have to traditionally ask, but I am expecting all Members to say, no. There is no Member who wishes to speak to this, correct? Thank you. The House now stands adjourned, Members, until Monday at 10:00 am, when we will …
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