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Senate Session 2020/2021 109 speeches

October 6, 2021

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The Senate heard updates on disaster victim identification training provided to 15 local personnel to help identify victims in major emergencies like plane crashes or natural disasters. The Post Office announced new services to help local businesses with delivery and compete with private courier companies at lower prices. The main debate focused on the Health Insurance Amendment Act, which increases health insurance premiums by $30-45 per month but adds prescription drug benefits and maternity care for uninsured mothers.

Chamber Senate
Date Oct 6, 2021
Session 2020/2021
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Speakers 9
Speeches 109

Key Topics

Disaster Victim Identification Training for emergency responders and government agenciesBermuda Post Office new services including local delivery and international shipping partnershipsHealth Insurance Amendment Act 2021 increasing premiums and benefitsMaternity care coverage for uninsured women

Bills & Motions

Health Insurance Amendment Act 2021 - Second reading debate (ongoing at transcript end)
Proposes $45 increase in standard health insurance premiums
Adds $30 monthly increase for HIP and FutureCare plans
Includes new prescription drug benefits and maternity care coverage

Notable Moments

Opposition senators questioned whether the Post Office's new services would hurt local businesses that employ Bermudians
Concerns raised about 100 out of 500 babies born each year being to uninsured mothers (20%)
Senators criticized lack of recent audited financial statements from Bermuda Hospitals Board since 2018

Debate Transcript

109 speeches from 9 speakers
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets On behalf of Senator Richardson, I was wondering if I could indulge the Senate and read his Statement. Mr. Richardson is actually en route. The President: Yes, certainly, Senator Dr. Ern est G. V. Peets , the Government Leader in the Senate. You have the floor. DISASTER VICTIM IDENTIFICATION TRAINING
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam President, for your cooperation and indulgence. Madam President, I rise this morning to inform this Honourable Senate that during the week of the 30th of August 2021 a number of Bermuda agencies 680 6 October 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate received training in disaster victim identification …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes, thank you, Madam President. And thank you, Senator, for your question. Training, of course, is vitally important, given the nature of the work. And as the Statement indicat-ed, this type of training is indeed professional and does come under certification of important oversight bodies. The recertification process is typically …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Sure. I will certainly make an attempt, Madam President. As the Statement had indicated, in January 2019, there was a n Air Crash Incident Tr aining conducted. That particular training [course] identified some gaps in services , which of course we eventually filled with th e DVI training. So I …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets The Overseas O ffice, of course, provides some guidance. As we had mentioned in the Statement, the i dentification of a lot of cross -ministry departments was important, so agencies that are associated with disaster either d irectly or indirectly, I do not have a complete number, but the list …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam President, it is my understanding that the defici encies that were identified after the training in 2019 were fully covered by the DVI training. Perhaps maybe the question is asking, Are there any additional deficiencies beyond that? Sen. Ben Smith: Yes, correct. Is there anything else that is having …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Okay. Thank you. Now that I better understand the question, Madam President, allow me some time to actually get a defin itive answer for the Senator. The President: Thank you, Minister. Senator Ben Smith, do you have a second question or . . . Sen. Ben Smith: No, Madam President. …
Madam President. The President Thank you, Senator Robin Tucker. Would any other Senator care to speak on this Bill? Senator Marcus Jones, you have the floor. Sen. Marcus Jones: Thank you, Madam President. I am just going to piggy -back off of what my colleague, Senator Tucker, was referring to, and that is the …
Madam Pres ident. The President Thank you, Senator Ben Smith. Sen. Lindsay Simmons: So, for example, what had problems before [was where] somebody k nowingly brought snakes in their socks to Bermuda. They knew that they could not bring snakes to Bermuda and still brought snakes to Bermuda. So if you knowingly bring something into …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam President; we are prepared to proceed with the Bill you just mentioned. The President: Thank you, very much. Then the second reading of the Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021 is in the name of Senator Curtis Richardson, Junior Minister for Transport. Senator, you have the floor. …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you. The Presiden t: Here we are.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you. I do apologise. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. The President: Carry on, Senator Richardson. BILL SECOND READING MOTOR CAR (LIVERIES) AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam President, the Bill I present today is the Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Bermuda Senate Act 2021. Members of …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes, Madam Pres ident. The President: Minister Peets, you have the floor.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you very much, Madam President . It goes without saying that this particular legi slation has the opportunity to create some employment opportunities as well as to enhance our tourism product. So I do not think it is really necessary to reiterate those points. But, given some of the …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam President , my apologies for intervening, but I was not sure if we were able to speak twice on a Bill. 710 6 October 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate The President: Yes, okay, thank you. Senator Wight, all the Senators have now spoken on the Bill and it …
The Chairman Chairman Senators, we are now in Committee of the whole [Senate] for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021 . I call on [Senator] Curtis P. Richardson, Junior Minister for Transport, to proceed. Senator, you have the floor. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chair man . …
The Chairman Chairman You are going to move the various clauses. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Yes, I got you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 1 and 2, 3 through 10, 11, 12 and 13 be approved a nd stand as part of the Bill entitled the Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021.
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, may I ask you to repeat the clauses you are moving again? Sen. Curtis Richardson: Clause 1.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Sen. Curtis Richardso n: Clause 2, clauses 3 through 10 . . . [clauses] 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10, clauses 11 and 12 and clause 13.
The Chairman Chairman So, basically, you are moving all the clauses in the Bill. It has been moved that clauses 1 through 13 be approved. Is there an y objection to that motion? Sen. Marcus Jones: Yes, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman I hear Senator Marcus Jones. Sen. Marcus Jones: The only reason I raise it is because it is peculiar for all of the clauses to be put forward and passed at once. The normal protocol is to do five at a time, because I remember in the general debate stage …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Sen. Marcus Jones: So, in the event that a Senator has an issue with that definition, which is I believe clause 2, I would like to see that they be given the opportunity to raise that issue on their unreadiness. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Jones. Is there anyone else who would like to speak? [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman I will repeat. It has been moved that clauses 1 through 13 be approved. Sen. Ben Smith: Madam President , I—
The Chairman Chairman Is there any objection? Sen. Ben Smith: Yes, Madam Chairman. The Clerk: All Senators can speak to all of the clauses.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Senator Ben Jones, I hear you. You have the floor. Sen. Ben Smith: Madam Chairman, are we going to go through each clause one by one? Bermuda Senate The Chairman: We can, yes. Sen. Ben Smith: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman You can speak to each clause. Sen. Ben Smith: So, Senator Jones went first. He was just clarifying that as we were trying to move all of them . . . that is not the normal [protocol]. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you, Senator Ben Smith. Senator Jones, would you like to begin again? Sen. Marcus Jones: My unreadiness simply was actually piggy -backing on your concerns, Madam Chairman, in regard to the definition of the guided tour vehicles, which is in [clause] 4—
The Chairman Chairman Right. Sen. Marcus Jones: —[which amends] section 101E, that applies to the principal Act, whether that particular definition is clear and concise, which removes all doubt of the proper use of these vehicles.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Thank you, Senator Jones . Is that the only clause you wish to address? Sen. Marcus Jones: Madam Chairman, are we doing [clauses] 1 through 5? Or are we doing each clause at each section at a time? Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, Madam Chairman. [Crosstalk] Sen. Curti s …
The Chairman Chairman I hear a voice; I am not sure who it is. Sen. Curtis Richardson: It is Senator Richardson,
Madam Chairman. The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, you have the floor. Sen. Curtis Richardson: I do . . . I have a fai rly good understanding of what the Opposition is speaking to with regard to the manner under which we . . . under normal circumstances [would] carry clauses forward. I want to bring …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Richardson. I believe the numbers you are referring to and the groupings you are referring to are in your brief. Is that correct? Sen. Curtis Richardson: Yes, that is correct. Correct.
The Chairman Chairman I would prefer that we deal with them as they come in your br ief. So, would you be kind enough to move the clauses according to the notes that you have. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Yes, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, I move that clause 1 be approved as it stands as part of the Bill entitled the Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 1 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? I hear none. It has been agreed. Clause 1 has been approved. [Motion carried: Clause 1 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, continue, please. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, I move that clause 2 be approved and stand as part of the Bill entitled Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 2 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? I hear no objection, so clause 2 has been [approved]. [Motion carried: Clause 2 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson. 712 6 October 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 3 through 10 be approved and stand as part of the Bill entitled Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 3 through 10 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? Sen. Marcus Jones: Yes, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Senator Marcus Jones, you have the floor. Sen. Marcus Jones: Thank you, Madam Chairman. As was brought up in the general debate in regard to a possible amendment that would be r equired to, hopefully, tie up and close any loopholes as it relate s to the usage and the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, please, Senator J ones. PROPOSED NEW CLAUSE 10A Sen. Marcus Jones: [New clause] “10A. Notwit hstanding any other provision in this Act or in the pri ncipal Act, no Guided Tour Vehicle shall be used within the National Park System (as defined in the Bermuda National Parks Ac t …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you, Senator Marcus Jones. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to clauses 3 through 10? The Clerk: And the amendment. Sen. John Wight: Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Senator John Wight. Sen. John Wight: Yes, thank you, Madam Chairman. I just [want] to say I would be in support of the amendment change just mentioned to us by Senator Jones. I would be supportive of that amendment change. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Wight. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to clauses 3 through 10? Sen. Ben Smith: Yes, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Senator Ben Smith. Sen. Ben Smith: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, considering the debate that happened before we came into Committee, and the specifics that were given by the Junior Minister in regard to using park land that is on the road that is provided as opposed to what …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Ben Smith. Is there anyone else who would like to speak?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Minister Peets.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes, thank you, Madam Chairman, just for a moment to take note of Senator Ben Smith’s comments. The comment made by Senator Smith is the intent of this particular Bill. As we have already mentioned, Madam Chairman, guided tour vehicles are currently licensed. Guided tour vehicles are also required to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest G. V. Peets, JP, Minister, Government Leader in the Sena te. Senator Curtis Richardson, I saw your hand. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Yes, Madam Chairman, only if I am the last. If anyone else has anything to say, they can. Bermuda Senate The Chairman: …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Senator Smith. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to clauses 3 through 10? The Clerk: And the amendment as well.
The Chairman Chairman And the amendment. Thank you, Mr. Somner. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chai rman?
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, yes. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Clauses 3 through 10 speak primarily of changing all references to “tour quadricycles,” which is described as a four -wheeled vehicle , to that of a “guided tour vehicle.” Unfortunately, I do not see how the amendment becoming [new clause] 10A, which speaks pr …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Madam President . Sen. the Hon. Joan E. Dillas -Wright: Madam Chairman, we are . . . at the moment we are discussing t his amendment to the proposal, which is —
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Sen. the Hon. Joan E. Dillas -Wright: —a new clause 10A and that reads: “Notwithstanding any other provision in this Act or in the principal Act, no Guided Tour Vehicle shall be used within t he National Park System (as defined in the Bermuda National Parks Act 1986).” And …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam President . I am just going to get some clarity from Mr. Somner. Do we vote on the amendment now? The Clerk: Yes, you can propose that the amendment clause be approved or considered.
The Chairman Chairman Okay, okay. The Clerk: So, you can consider that first, and then consider the movement of clauses 3 through 10.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. It has been moved that the proposed amendment to clause 4 [sic] . . . sorry . . . yes, to clause 4 [sic]— The Clerk: No, to insert a new clause 10A. That is the amendment.
The Chairman Chairman Right, which will be inserted as [new] clause 10A be approved. And I will read it again. [New clause] 10A will read: “Notwithstanding any other provision in this Act or in the principal Act, no Guided Tour Vehicle shall be used within the N ational Park System (as def ined …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets I object, Madam Chairman. The Clerk: Okay. 714 6 October 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda Senate The Chairman: Then I think we have to have a div ision then, Mr. Somner . The Clerk: Okay, I will call the names of Senators and those in favour of the proposed amendment …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Somner. [Motion carried by majority on division: Proposed new clause 10A passed.] Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, I move that the Senate do now . . . I am sorry, I move that the clauses 11 and 12 — The Clerk: We can move that clauses 3 …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 3 through 10, as amended, be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? I do not hear any, therefore, clauses — Some Hon. Senators: Object. We object. Object. An Hon. Senator: We can’t have tour vehicles that cannot do tours in public lands.
The Chairman Chairman Okay, I hear some objections. Does this mean we have to have another vote, Mr. Somner? The Clerk: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Over to you then, sir. The Cl erk: All right, hold on just a second. We are voting to move clauses 3 through 10 as amended. Are we ready?
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm, yes. The Clerk: Okay, so now we are voting on clauses 3 through 10, as amended. And those in favour, of course, will vote aye ; those opposed will vote nay. DIVISION [Motion to approve clauses 3 through 10, as amended by new clause 10A] Ayes: 6 Noes: 5 …
The Chairman Chairman Senator Lindsay Simmons, we can hear you. The Clerk: Yes. So, Madam Chairman, the motion to approve clauses 3 through 10, as amended, is affirmed by six ayes to five noes.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Somner. [Motion carried by majority on division : Clauses 3 through 10, as amended by new clause 10A , passed.] The Clerk: Senator Richardson can now proceed to clause 11.
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, you may conti nue. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 11 and 12 be approved and stand as part of the Bill entitled Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 11 and 12 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? I hear none; therefore, clauses 11 and 12 have been approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 11 and 12 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, continue please. Sen. Curtis Richa rdson: Madam Chairman, I move that clause 13 be approved and stand as part of the Bermuda Senate Bill entitled Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 13 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? I hear and see no objection; therefore, clause 13 has been approved. [Motion carried: Clause 13 passed.] The Clerk: Move the preamble.
The Chairman Chairman The preamble. Senator Richardson. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman We are just awaiting Senator Ric hardson. The Clerk: He is muted.
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, do you have what you need? Sen. Curtis Richardson: Yes, I do, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Great. Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection, so the preamble has been agreed. And now would you move the Bill?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Minister Peets.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you. I move that the Committee rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
The Chairman Chairman I am not sure if I have to get permi ssion for that, but I believe that is agreed. The Clerk: Yes, that is a motion he can move. (So, ask if there is any objection. )
The Chairman Chairman There is a motion proposed by Mini ster Peets that we rise and report [ progress ] on this Bill. Is there any objection to that? Sen. Ben Smith: Madam Chairman, this being the last [sitting ] for this [ session] , would this mean that we would be bringing …
The Chairman Chairman I do not think we are allowed to go— Sen. Ben Smith: —rise and report with that being the case? This is the last [ sitting]. The Chairm an: That is a very important point, and I will need to seek advice from Mr. Somner. The Clerk: Well, technically, that …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that the Committee rise, report pr ogress and I ask for leave to sit again.
The Chairman Chairman There is a motion— Sen. Ben Smith: Madam Chairman, —
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Senator Ben Smith. Sen. Ben Smith: Can we object to that in light that this is the last session?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you can.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Madam Chairman, just for clarification, this will enable the Committee to resume its consideration of the Bill at a subsequent meeting. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman So, there is a motion on the floor that we rise and report [progress] and consider this Bill at another time. Is there any objection to that motion? Some Hon. Senators: Objection.
The Chairman Chairman I see three hands and that means we have to vote. Mr. Somner, over to you again. The Clerk: All right, hold on a second. Senators, we are voting on the proposal by Senator Peets that the C ommittee rise, report pr ogress, and ask for leave to sit again. …
The Chairman Chairman So, I believe I go back to Senator Richa rdson. The Clerk: Yes, Madam Chairman. At this stage I think Senator Richardson would be moving that the Bill, as amended, be reported to the Senate for adoption.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Sen. Ben Smith: Madam Chairman, did we do the preamble?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, we did. Sen. Ben Smith: Okay, thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, would you please move the Bill? Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, I move that the title stands part of the Bill. The Clerk: He wants to do the title. Yes. ( Is there any objection?)
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the title stand as part of the Bill. Is there any objection to that motion? I hear none; therefore, the title has been agreed. The Clerk: Now we move that the Bill be adopted.
The Chairman Chairman That the Bill be adopted by the Senate. The Clerk: As amended. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Senator Richardson, would you please move the adoption of the Bill? Sen. Curtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, could I get one moment while I confer? The Chairman: Yes. Sen. C urtis Richardson: Madam Chairman, I move that the Bill be adopted.
The Chairman Chairman As amended. Sen. Curtis Richardson: As amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill ent itled the Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act 2021 be adopted as amended. Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection; therefore, the Bill has been agreed as amended. Thank you, Senators. [Motion carried: The Motor Car (Liveries) Amendment Act …
Madam President in the Chair. The Chairman I move that the Senate Committee do now rise. The Clerk: You do not have to make a motion, Committee will rise and the Senate will resume.
The Chairman Chairman Madam President , back to you. Thank you. Senate resumed at 3:10 pm (Sen. the Hon. Joan E. Dillas -Wright, President, pr esiding) The President: Thank you, Senator Simmons, Vice President of the Senate. The Senate will now resume. Thank you, Senators. We will now move on then with our …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Yes, Madam Pres ident, if I may. The President: Minister Peets, you have the floor.
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam President . I would like to send condolences to two fam ilies within constituency 10 , first to the family of Mr. Mills, and secondly, to the family of Vernon Daniels, also of constituency 10. These are very, very i mportant families. I know them quite well …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, Madam President . I certainly appreciate your patience today Bermuda Senate and the patience of all of our Senators. I understand that the Hous e has [been] prorogued and they will sit on the 5th of November. I move that we adjourn until the 10th of November, Madam …
Madam President . The President Yes, Senator Lindsay Simmons, you have the floor. COVID -19 VACCINE —BERMUDIANS URGED T O CONSULT WITH THEIR PHYSICIANS Sen. Lindsay Simmons: Thank you, Madam Pres ident. Madam President , I debated today whether or not I should speak on this topic, but it has hit home for me. A …
Sen. the Hon. Dr. Ernest Peets Thank you, I promise I will keep my comments brief. Given the fact that we have just completed our first year, particularly someone like myself who is a new Minister, a new Senator, I certainly want to thank my Senate colleagues for an extraordinary year. Their friendship, their participation in …
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