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House of Assembly Session 2020/2021 667 speeches

July 16, 2021

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Session Summary

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This was a routine parliamentary session focused on government ministers providing updates rather than debating new laws. The Premier announced that $4.4 million has been provided to local businesses through various COVID-19 support programs, helping 255 businesses survive the pandemic. The Finance Minister explained Bermuda's participation in a new international tax agreement that could establish a global minimum corporate tax rate of 15%. Ministers also updated Parliament on ferry repairs, infrastructure stimulus projects, and human rights issues in Bermuda.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jul 16, 2021
Session 2020/2021
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Speakers 33
Speeches 667

Key Topics

Government financial support for small and medium businesses during COVID-19 pandemicInternational tax changes through OECD agreement affecting Bermuda's tax systemFerry repairs and Marine & Ports services updatesGovernment stimulus programme for local contractors and infrastructure projectsHuman Rights Commission annual report on discrimination complaints

Bills & Motions

Employment (Probationary Period Exemption) Regulations 2021 - presented to Parliament
Public Health (COVID-19) Emergency Extension (No. 4) Order 2021 - presented for consideration
Human Rights Commission Annual Report 2020 - submitted to Parliament

Notable Moments

Premier Burt joked about wearing red and blue ties leading up to Cup Match while discussing business support
Technical audio difficulties interrupted the Works Minister's presentation on stimulus projects
Opposition members asked detailed questions about COVID-19 cases among vaccinated travelers and quarantine exemptions

Debate Transcript

667 speeches from 33 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. Ms. Beale, would you represent us in prayer? PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Ms. Beale. Members, the House is now in session. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 2 July 2021]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes from the 2nd of July have been circulated. Are there any amendments, adjus tments required? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 2 July 2021 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER P RESIDING
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker We have three [communications] this morning. The first is in the name of the Minister of S ocial Dev elopment and Seniors. Minister Furbert, would you like to present your matter at this time? Minister Furbert? [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker We are going to move on. Minister Hayward, would you like to present your paper or communication at this time? Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. EMPLOYMENT (PROBATIONARY PERIOD EXEMPTION) REGULATIONS 2021 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the [Honourable] House of Assembly the Employment (Probationary Period Exemption) Regulations 2021. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next [communication] this morning is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister of Health, would you like to present yours? PUBLIC HEALTH (COVID- 19) EMERGENCY EXTENSION (NO. 4 ) ORDER 2021 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister Furbert, are you available? Hon. T inee Furbert: Yes. Apologies, Mr. Speaker, a bit of technical diff iculty. Can you hear me?
The Speaker The Speaker We can hear you. HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 2020 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the informat ion of this Hon1712 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly ourable House of Assembly the Human Rights Commission Annual …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We move on. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have six Statements this morning. The first Statement is in the name of the Premier. Premier, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. E. David Burt: Certainly, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to provide an update on financial support provided to Bermuda businesses through the Bermuda Economic Development —
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier, Mr. Premier, one second. Your camera is on, but I think you need to adjust the item that is front of your camera. Hon. E. David Burt: Ah.
The Speaker The Speaker There you go. Hon. E. David Burt: My apologies, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem at all. Hon. E. David Burt: Shall I begin again?
The Speaker The Speaker We want to make sure we see that redand-blue tie, see? Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, absolutely, Mr. Speaker. I have a different red- and-blue tie for every day leading up to Cup Match.
The Speaker The Speaker There you go. Hon. E. David Burt: And I will make sure they are all on display, especially for those persons who may be confused as to my affiliation due to some pho-toshopped pictures that are sneaking around the I nternet. [Laughter] The Speaker: Go right ahead now. UPDATE ON …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The next Statement this morning, Members, is from the Minister of Finance. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. OECD INCLUSIVE FRAMEWORK Hon. Curti s L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I rise to update this Honourable House on the work of the Organisation of Economic Co- operation and Development (OECD) [Committee] known as the Inclusive Fram ework on Base Erosion and Profit Shifting [the Inclusive Framework ]. Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. 1716 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Members, the next Statement this morning is that in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Only if you feel …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, I see you at a distance, but I do recognise some red in that colour. So I assume that you are appropriately dressed with that blue beside it. So you can continue. Hon. W. Lawrence Sco tt: Thank you. As well as my colleague, Neville Tyrrell, is in red …
The Speaker The Speaker You are in good company then. MARINE AND PORTS SERVICES FERRY RETROFIT PROGRAMME Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Speaker, on the 27 th of June 2021, the fast ferry Resolute returned to Berm uda after an extensive nine- month retrofit project at Gladding -Hearn shipyard in Boston, the original buil …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister, would you like to present your Statement?
Lt. Col. Ho n. David A. Burch Yes, Mr. Speaker. Good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Minister. Go right ahead. FOURTH UPDATE ON THE STIMULUS PROGRAMME
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to provide another update on the Short Term Stimulus Programme that was launched on December 17, 2020, to a maximum value of BMD$13,385,000 where small to medium -sized contractors were invited t o participate. Mr. Speaker, the programme was launched as it was …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, are you having an audio pro blem there?
The Speaker The Speaker You are having a little audio problem that time. C ontinue.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch [INAUDI BLE] A total of 16 projects are underway. The nine projects currently ongoing are as follows: • Flatt’s Bridge handrail project —work underway; • Artemis building B interior work —started May 21, 2021, duration eigh t weeks ; • Elbow Beach Access —May 17, 2021, dur ation five weeks. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, it may help. There you go.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch At Elbow Beach again, • Elbow Beach Access —May 17, 2021, dur ation five weeks. Substantial completion has been achieved with the steps poured and in place. Waiting on fabrication and installation of handrails , which should be complete in two to three weeks ; • New Plant Inspection Building …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch [INAUDIBLE] Fourte en out of 93 companies have been awarded stimulus contracts. We are very pleased with the response to the stimulus programme thus far from both contractors and likely employees, all of whom want to get to work and help the economy improve. These projects are 1718 16 Jul …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. And, Minister, let me just say if you intend to speak later today, maybe have your tech nical look at your system. Because normally you come through very clear, but today you seem to have a little issue there. Okay?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch They have already been [INAUDIBLE], Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Good. Members, the nex t Statement this morning is that of the Minister of Social Development and Seniors. Minister Furbert, would you like to make your presentation? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, I would, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL R EPORT 2020 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased today to submit to this Honourable House the Annual Report of the Human Rights Commission for the year ending December 31, 2020. Mr. Speaker, the Commission has a statutory remit to protect …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement and final Statement for this morning is in the name of the Mini ster of Labour. Minister Hayward, would you like to present your Statement? EXTENDING THE TERM FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE OF ABLE -BODIED UNEMPLOYMENT RECIPIENTS Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker and Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, this brings us to a close of the Statements period for this morning. We will now move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we have 60 minutes for Question Period. Today we have both written ques-tions and questions from the Statements that were given this morning. We will start with the written questions, and all of the written questions this morning have indicated that they will be for oral responses. The first …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, we do not hear you. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the total number of fully vaccinated travellers who hav e tested positive for COVID - 19 upon arrival in Bermuda or with any day 4, day 8 or day 14 test since February …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Further question, or supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Honourable Minister, is there any awareness of what vaccines have been used in those 24 cases?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: No, Mr. Speaker, I would not have that information. The Speake r: Okay. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Is the Minister able to give a breakdown of the positive cases on each test date? Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, in February there were [nil] for arrival day 4, day 8 or day 14. In …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Those were your two supplementaries from your one question. So we will move on. Next. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. The next written question this morning is to the Minister of Health from the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, would you like to put your question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I was trying to bring up my video.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. I will start anyway.
The Speaker The Speaker You can get your video going as you talk. QUESTION 1: TOTAL NUMBER OF QUARANTINE EXEMPTIONS ISSUED MONTHLY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Will the Honourable Mini ster please provide the Honourable House the total number of quarantine exemptions issued [mont hly] by Government from the beginning of the programme …
The Speaker The Speaker While the Minister is responding, you can sort out your camera for us, MP. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I am.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Go ahead, Minister. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, we don’t have your audio. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the total number of quarantine exemptions issued by Government from the beginning of the programme unt il the 10 th of July 2021 is 294.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, any supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Would you like to do your second question? QUESTION 2: TOTAL NUMBER OF QUARANTINE EXEMPTIONS APPLIED FOR MONTHLY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Will the Honourable Mini ster please provide the Honourable House with the total number of quarantine exemption applications ap-plied for , for each month from the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, the total number of quarantine exemption applications applied for from the programme’s inception to the 10 th of July 2021 is 460.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I asked for the number of applications for each month so I could see a trend. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member would note that the requirements with r espect to the quarantine facilities started on the 20th of …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. All right.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have a supplementary, MP Jackson? Ms. Susan E. Jackson: Yes, please.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary. 1722 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Good morning, Minister. I am just curious whether you have a breakdown of the category of exemptions —i.e., college st udents, children, health, et cetera. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: As is provided for under the Order, the exemptions category relates specif ically to persons who are medically vulnerable …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Nothing from me, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary, MP Pearman. Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Honourable Minister. You identif ied two categories of exemption. I understood that there were three categories of exemption down from the original seven. Have the three been reduced to two? Thank you. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: With respect to minors, minors do not have to apply for an …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Honourable Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. No supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, no further suppl ementaries for your question 2? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to move on to your question 3? QUESTION 3: TOTAL COST TO GOVERNMENT FOR QUARANTINE SITES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Will the Honourable Mini ster please inform this Honourable House the total monthly cost to the Government for all quarantine sites from inception of the programme …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. N. H. Col e Simons: Mr. Speaker — [Crosstalk] The Clerk: Good morning. Yes, the questions have been deferred. And in the email that we received yesterday, the Minister of National Security would like to defer them. You are copied in the email, Mr. Speaker. The S peaker: …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. So w e will come back to question 3 next week under the respective Minister who will respond to it. Thank you. The next series of written questions now are from MP Dunkley to Minister Ming, National Security. MP Dunkley, would you like to put your two questions? …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP, the Minister is saying that it is a matter that is already in the public domain. And as you know, the rules allow for items that ar e already in the public domain, that the Minister can refer to the fact that it is already out there. Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker You have a supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I believe the Minister has remarked that an exemption was given in error. How did the error oc cur?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Speaker, I am sure—
The Speaker The Speaker Well, I am just trying to ascertain whether . . . I am reading the original. The original is already in the [public] domain. The original here does not speak to the error. And I do not have the stat ement that is already in the public domain in front …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker The supplementary has to be guided by the response of information that is shared to us during this Question Period. The response was simply that it is already in the public domain, which allows the Minister to quote that. Without having the information in front of us right now, we …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. Mr. Speaker, this question is put to rest because it is in the public domain. So there can be no supplementaries to it. And you are correct when you say you cannot refer to an ything. The Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: You have given the proper direction.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. MP, as I was directing you, I do not have that [information] in front of me to refer to. I am not saying you cannot put the question, but you can put the ques tion at a later date if you go to the information that is …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am just trying to get some understanding of how the error occurred, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. We can go on to the second question. QUESTION 2: ST. REGIS HOTEL DEVELOPERS EXEMPTION APPROVAL Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Okay, Mr. Speaker. Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House if any other verbal or electronic communication w as provided to anyone at the St. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. 1724 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly No, not that I am aware of.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker, because I am sure we would have to deal with the publ ic domain. And I will accept your ruling.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. All right. Members, that brings us to a close of the wri tten questions. We will now move on to questions from the Statements that were given this morning. And on the first Statement this morning from the Premier, there was a question from the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I will try to answer as best as I can. I think referring to the Statement that it shows a total guarantee capacity of the BEDC, and the guarantee capacity is governed by statute. So if there is more capital given, the guarantee …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. I understand the stat utory requirements. I think from best practice and bus iness prudence, each year we would say that we would allow “X” million dollars for guarantees. So for the budget year, I am certain from a business point …
Mr. Premier. The Speaker premier Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I think I understand the Honourable Member’s question. But I do not believe that there is currently a restriction. I am happy to follow up. But what I would say is if there was the limit which the Honourable Opposition Leader is sugges …
The Speaker The Speaker Further question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Question or supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: This is a question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Go ahead. QUESTION 2: UPDATE ON SUPPORT PROVIDED TO LOCA L SMALL AND MEDIUM BUSINESSES SINCE THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Can the Premier just tell the community what the application fees are and the fee for the use of the guarantees?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information off the top of my head. I believe all of the information would be on the BEDC website, as my Statement referred. All fees were cut in half. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I saw that. Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No. I have no further questions, but I would like to commend the BEDC and Er ica Smith for the work that they are doing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Members. Hon. E. D avid Burt: Thank you, Mr. Opposition Leader.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the next Statement this morning that has questions is that of the Finance Mi nister. Finance Minister, you have a question from the Oppo sition Leader. Opposition Leader, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: OECD INCLUSIVE FRAMEWORK Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker. On …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, not to my knowledge. We are doing some work within the Mini stry of Finance to do a bit of a data call so that we can try to ascertain the impacts of Pillar One and Pillar Two on constituent companies that are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Supplementary or new question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: So you, the Minister ind icated that —
The Speaker The Speaker Is it a new question or a supplementary? Hon. N . H. Cole Simons: Supplemental, suppl emental.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Minister indicated that he would be doing a data draw to secure the information generally. When does he expect to have this project completed?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: We are currently working on figuring out what data we need to get. And then we need to talk to stakeholders and make sure that we train—they get the data- gathering exercise in its appropriate context. But my hope is that we will be pos …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: OECD INCLUSIVE FRAMEWORK Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: On page 5 of 8 the Minister says, “Bermuda has been actively involved in ongoing discussions relating to this initiative to present pos itions that reflect the na tional interest and that of our various stakeholders.” Can the Minister …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned in the Statement, Bermuda is a member of the Inclusive Framework. There has been ongoing di alogue on this topic for the better part of two- plus years. We have representation in the Inclusive Framework, and so we participate in …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Do you have any specifics? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I think we have highlighted four or five particular areas of concern. One of them 1726 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly would be the overall rate that is being contemplated. I think initially there was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is all I have.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister of Finance, you also have questions this morning from MP Pearman. MP Pearman, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: OECD INCLUSIVE FRAMEWORK
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister, for your very clear and concise Statement to us. It is always refreshing to get this sort of information given in such a straightforward and fair way. My question arises at pages 4 and 5 of your Statement where you quote your …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: We do not have much vi sibility beyond October 2021. I think everyone is cur-rently focused on the negotiations that need to hap-pen between now and the end of October in adv ance of the G20 Finance Ministers meeting to ensure that the details are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary. In respect of that October 2021 meeting and specifically with reference to page 6 of 8 of your Statement in the middle paragraph, you quite sensibly anticipate that the Tax Reform Commission is not going to engage in matters until after the October 2021 details are released. So my …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, it is not. What I did say is, “I therefore anticipate the Tax Reform Commission may not engage in the full scope . . . ,” which means they will not be able to opine fully on the impact of OECD initiatives on …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Go ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Minister. I think the last bit of your answer actually does agree with me. What I was wondering is, it is fair to say that the Tax Reform Commission’s focus on these matters, not domestic matters, but on these matters needs to know the parameters they are working …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Minister, for your answer. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have no second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Minister, that is the end of the questions for you this morning. The next St atement that has questions this morning is the Statement from the Minister of Transport. Minister of Transport, you have questions this morning from MP Pearman. MP, would you like to put your …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Honourable Minister for his Statement on the Marine and Ports Services. (Just making sure you have my video. I think you do now.)
Mr. Scott Pearman Honourable Minist er, you gave a Statement to the House about the lifespan and de-ployment of the ferry Resolute, which was refitted at a $2 million cost. You indicated that the refit would ex-tend the vessel’s lifespan by some 12 years. I pr esume that is 12 years from today, …
Mr. Scott Pearman Grateful.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman In terms of the lifes pan and deployment, you indicated in your Statement that it would be for the green and blue ferry routes. Obviously, Minister, you are familiar with what those routes are, but the House and the public may not be. Could you kindly confirm which routes this …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: So that is mainly, and for the most simplistic answer, that is the Somerset route, town to Somerset.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Second question? The Speake r: The second question. Yes. QUESTION 2: MARINE AND PORTS SERVICES FERRY RETROFIT PROGRAMME
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, you discussed the Marine and Ports Services more generally, listing a hist ory of services dating back to the 1980s. With those services in mind, can you assist us with information on the situation in St. George’s, with the Viking Orion in St. George’s , please?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: If the Member could clarify what about the Viking Orion? What services?
Mr. Scott Pearman Sorry. I apologise if I was not sufficiently clear. As the Minister will be aware, the Viking Orion is not stopping in St. George’s as part of its homepor ting efforts which, to the Minister’s credit, I understand are ex tending. Could you just assist with any information that the …
The Speaker The Speaker MP, before you try to put a supplementary to that, let me just say that the answer that the Minister just gave you was a courtesy. Nothing in the question or his response related to the refit pr ogramme, which is what his Statement was about. Take it as a …
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, I do take it as a courtesy.
The Speaker The Speaker If you have a third question that does relate to the Statement, you can put your third question.
Mr. Scott Pearman No. I think the Minister’s Stat ement was extremely informative for the House and the public, Mr. Speaker. I am grateful for his Statement.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, you have a second Member who wants to put questions to you. And that is MP Dunkley. MP Dunkley, would you like t o put your questions now? QUESTION 1: MARINE AND PORTS SERVICES FERRY RETROFIT PROGRAMME Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Can the Minister give an overview of t he work that is required and why? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Actually the overview of the work is still being assessed as to exactly what needs to be done. But it is anticipated that the work …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Why is it necessary that the work is done at this time? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: It is necessary for the work to be done at this time because the vessel is inoper able to be able to resume its duties in its current …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, second question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 2: MARINE AND P ORTS SERVICES FERRY RETROFIT PROGRAMME Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Can the Minister please provide the reasons why the vessel is inoperable at the present time?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: It was involved in an inc ident which is in the p ublic domain. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Is there any rough estimate of how much the work will cost? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: The es timate of the work is going to cost approximately $600,000, which will be covered by insurance. And the …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, in regard to the i nsurance.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, correct, Mr. Speaker. In relation to the insurance claim, what is the level of the deductible? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: It will be $10,000. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary to MP Dunkley’s question: Are you able to give a timeframe by which the boat might be back in service?
The Speaker The Speaker I think he said it would be from four to eight weeks.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am sorry. I did not hear that.
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister said that the repair work shoul d take anywhere from four to eight weeks.
Mr. Scott Pearman So second supplementary then, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman When does the Honourable Mi nister anticipate that the St. David will be back in oper ations? Hon. W. Lawrenc e Scott: In four to eight weeks.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Minister. There are no further questions for you on this one. The next Statement that has questions this morning would b e the Statement of the Minister of Works. Minister of Works, you have questions this morning from MP Dunkley. MP Dunkley, would you like to …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, not at this time. The Parks staff are paid overtime on weekends to address the Railway Trail. I and they get reg ular calls [about] areas in need of attention, so I would invite the MP to share that information and we will get it onto the list.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I thank the Minister for that. Second question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 2: FOURTH UPDATE ON STIMULUS PROGRAMME Hon. Michael H . Dunkley: Can the Minister provide the number of jobs provided to date in the stimulus programme? [Pause] 1730 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: I think the Minister is looking …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I did not hear the question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh. The question was, Can you supply the number of jobs that have been payable through the stimulus?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I can get that information.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. The Minister is undertaking to get the answer for you. Hon. Mich ael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be indebted in that regard.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any more questions? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker. But I do not know if this is the appropriate time. The last sitting, the Honourable Minister of Health committed to get back to me on three questions in regard to the travel authorisation form.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. We will make note of that again. Thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Works, you hav e a further Member who would like to put questions to you. MP Cannonier, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: FOURTH UPDATE ON STIMULUS PROGRAMME
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to all. Taking into light on page 1 where the Minister has on this occasion and previous occasions mentioned that this was a stimulus programme that they have put in place, and then on page 2 taking a look at the nine …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. Dav id A. Burch I would say that in some cases the answer would be, it is called stimulus because we had a significant reduction in our capital accounts expenditure for 2021. And so some of the work that is being done is done regularly by Public Works staff. So what we are doing …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary. So bearing that in mind, financially does the Minister believe that we are not doubling on our ex-penses by having Works and Engineering facilities not being able to get to the work, or they should be doing the work, I should say? Let me just rephrase that. Based …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch That would be correct. We were reduced. We have also had a freeze in a number of jobs into our government. And so we are not filling those posts . So what that means is that as an example, the road crews or the parks crews are still carrying out …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, I think you may have frozen. You may have frozen for a minute there. Continue on; you ar e back now.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch So the answer is yes. [INAUDIBLE ] for the reason of new posts causes us not to be able to get to the regularly scheduled work of cutting school fields and roadside work. And so this is assisting in that regard.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. So considering that —
The Speaker The Speaker This will be your second supplementary or new question?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I will do a new question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: FOURTH UPDATE ON STIMUL US PROGRAMME
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Considering the fact that we are attempting to save monies on one side, but yet we are spending on the other side, I am just trying to fi gure out where the balance is here to the taxpayer. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker The question is, you are trying to get a . . .
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. So if we are saving money because of budget -wise and we do not want to fill posts that will allow us to get these jobs done and that is a measure that has been taken by the Finance Ministry as well as the Works and Engineering Mini stry …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, the sti mulus package is as a direct result of COVID -19 and the number of people who are unemployed . So what we have done is put to the Ministry of Finance a pr oposal to improve the infrastructure and employ people from the private sector to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I think we lost the Minister again.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —put those people who are unemployed, to employ them.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I think you are still having a buf fering issue there, Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes. I am moving all around the office. I expect people to come at lunchtime to help us out.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. All right. Additional question there, MP Cannonier?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. A supplementary to that.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary . Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Bearing the answer in mind, has the Ministry looked at the scheduling of works and maybe revamped that to see how it can be more effective if in fact they are not able to hire, if in fact we are look ing to go outside of the regular scope …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. [No audible response]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier We lost him.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Let us just defer that for now, because the Minister is obviously having technical issues. If we can get them resolved before we co mplete, we will come back to that. Okay, Members, if you do not mind?
The Speaker The Speaker The next Statement that has questions this morning is the Statement from the Minister of S ocial Development and Seniors. Minister, MP Jackson would like to put a ques tion to you. QUESTION 1: HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 2020
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question to the Minister is, How are the Minister and the Human Rights Commission working to improve or amend legislation to address this high percentage of complaints by those living with disabil ities?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Member, for that question. If the Member notes in the annual report — well, actually in my report I made, that actually 90 per cent of the issues or complaints that were made through the Human Rights Commission were r e1732 16 Jul y …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP, the Minister has asked if you can direct it, define your question better so she can provide an a nswer for you that would be fitting.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Maybe just a supplementary clarification then. Is it possible for the Minister to share just a general category of what these complaints are around? Is it employment? Is it harassment? What those complaints are in general?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. Yes, that information again is in the annual report. I can give you the page on which that information can be found, and that is page 21 of the annual report.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Minister. I will take note. And having it just having been tabled this morning, I have not had a chance to have a look. So I have made note. Thank you. Hon. Tinee Furbert: You are welcome.
The Speaker The Speaker Any further questions? None. Minister, you also have questions from MP Pearman. MP Pearman, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 2020
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister. Honourable Minister, at page 2 of 4 of your Statement to the Honourable House today, you ident ified one of the Commission’s duties as carrying out “consultations to support the evolution of legislation, just practices and policies in support of human rights …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Member. I do not have that information on me as far as information from the Human Rights Commission. But I can get that i nformation to you. But the Government is working on initiatives to address issues with the homelessness. And that information will …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary, yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, by “very soon,” does that mean a matter of weeks or months or — Hon. Tinee Furbert: I cannot give you a specific date at this time, Member. But I am hoping within a couple of months.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, second suppl ementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary. Continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Are you able to share with this Honourable House in very broad terms what that le gislation will be that we will be dealing with? Hon. Tinee Furbert: So there is in fact no legislation, Member, that we will be working towards, but more so of …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Second q uestion, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Put your second question. QUESTION 2: HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 2020
Mr. Scott Pearman Honourable Minister, in the same vein but more specifically, also at page 43 of the r eport, the Commis sion references that they undertook an independent review of the legislation from this perspective. That was the exercise of powers by the government officials under the emergency coronavirus legislation. Is that …
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister is going to take an undertaking to get the information to you later.
Mr. Scott Pearman That would be great. Hono urable Minister, I understand that this undertaking is to provide the independent reviews to me, or just to answer my question? Hon. Tinee Furbert: I will check with the Human Rights Commission to see whether the information can be shared. And if it can be …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful, Honourable Mini ster. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Members, that actually brings us to a close of questions this morning. I think that the Minister of Works is still having a technical problem, so it would probably be wise not to try and get that final answer from him. With the House’s indulgence in that, …
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to make a contribution in that regard?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Mr. Speaker, I would. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker It sounds like MP Weeks.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Weeks, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Good morning to you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to my colleagues, and good morning to Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I take this opportunity this mor ning to ask this Honourable House to join me in saying good- bye, so long and thank you to Ms. Lynn Outerbridge. Most people are asking …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Associate me, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes. [Inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Weeks, it sounds like you are going to be associating the House, it sounds like. There are many Members who have visited that facility over the years.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes. I will definitely associate the whole House, Mr. Speaker. Ms. Outerbridge, as she is known by many of us as Auntie, Aunt Lynn, Ms. DeGraff, Byrdie or ho wever we have gotten to know her, she is retiring today after 51 years, Mr. Speaker. And I would encourage anybody …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Simmons -Wade, you have your three minutes.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, good morning, Mr. Speaker. I would like to extend my condolences to the family of the late Sandra Wade [Allen] , as we all know, of the Progressive Labour Party. She was the daug hter of Wilfred Mose Allen, who in 1963 founded the PLP, which actually helped to …
The Speaker The Speaker You give congratulations to her.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Oh, yes. Congratul ations. Sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker You said “condolences.” You mean congratulations. Okay.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Congratulations, right. The Sp eaker: No problem. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to share with this Honourable House the sad loss of Pauline Powell, who was a constituent of mine. Ms. Powell worked at the National Trust for many, many years. And with your leave, Mr. Speaker, I would just like to read two …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman The first is from the technical officer, Ms. Karen Border, who said this: “Pauline was the smiling public face of the water bill for many years and an absolute treasure to the Trust. She will be greatly missed by all who had the pleasure of knowing her.” [UNVERIFIED QUOTE] A …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I would like for this House to send condolences out to the family of Ms. Inez Caesar, who passed this week. Ms. Caesar will be sorely missed by her daughter, Altama; and sons, Lynn, Dale and Garn. Also, I would like to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I woul d like to be associated. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: He was a stalwart of the Bermuda Industrial Union and a stalwart of the Progressive Labour Party. Mr. Riley will be sorely missed by all who knew him. And as I …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. We endorse that as well. Any other Member who would like to make a contribution at this time?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker!
The Speaker The Speaker I am hearing two voices. I think it is Neville Tyrrell. Is that your voice?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell That is corr ect, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Tyrrell, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would sadly ask if the House could at this time send condolences to two families with recent passings. The first one is Althea Madre Lightbourne, who actually is the sister of a very good friend of mine, Marshall Minors. And I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Tyrrell.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, MP Cannonier. You have your three minutes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker. I just want to send out condolences to a good friend of mine who has been involved in my political career since I started, Bobby Baron. His wife just passed away. They have been invaluable to myself as I began to get involved in this whole thing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, I would like to associate myself with the comments made in regard to Pauline Mary Powell and Althea Madre Lightbourne, whom I have known for many, many years. And Sandra [Wade] Allen. She w as a loving, committed person in the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, you have your three minutes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very muc h. 1736 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I wish to be associated with the condolences for Ms. Sandra Allen. Most certainly her lineage is known to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes, good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I will take ladies first. I was not sure of the male’s voice, but I heard a lady’s voice that time. I believe it was the Minis ter of National Security? Hon. Renee Ming: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have your three minutes. Hon. Renee Ming: Surely. Mr. Speaker, I would like to use my time today to convey some really good news. An old schoolmate of mine who has been involved in hospitality for quite some time has recently been promoted to the Director of Food …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous, you have your three minutes, sir.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. Good morning to the people of Bermuda. I first want to join in with the condolences to the Riley family. Mr. Riley, as the Deputy Premier said, was a hero of mine as well. Often on the radio show with MP Swan, he used to call in. And he …
The Speaker The Speaker You can ass ociate yourself because that was done at an earlier sitting. But go ahead and associate yourself.
Mr. Christopher Famous I associate myself with that. Lastly, Mr. Speaker, I would like to give a shout -out. Often the people in the background get left behind when it comes to congratulations. I want to thank the people who work processing the TA [Travel Authorisation] forms. Because in travels recently, I have …
The Speaker The Speaker The Cup will visit f or two days; I agree.
Mr. Christopher Famous They said— [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your contribution, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a comment? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes, Minister Furbert, you have yo ur three minutes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to be associated …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Burch, that sounds like you.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I am going to give it a try.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. You have your three minutes.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , I wish to be associated with the condolences to the family of Mr. Leroy Riley, who I think was a mentor to many of us, and spoke wisdom. I would also like congratulations to be sent to a constituent of mine, Mr. Speaker, Ms. Edith Lorraine Douglas, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And when I told her that I was the son of Ellis Burch, whom she knew, I was in like Flynn. So I shall be visiting on Sunday. But she is a sprightly 100- year-old, and I wish her the warmest of congratulations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker. The Speaker: Mr. Premier, you have your three minut es. Hon. E. David Burt: Let me try and get my video right and sorted. Can you hear me?
The Speaker The Speaker We hear you. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first I would like to be associated with the condolences that have been offered t oday for Mr. Charles Leroy Riley and of course would ask the Honourable House to send a letter of condolence to his …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I wish to associate myself. Hon. E. David Burt: I will happily associate the entire House, Mr. Speaker. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Members! [Timer chimes]
The Speaker The Speaker I hope you hear the bell. Hon. E. David Burt: I want to s end good wishes to our Bermudian footballers overseas.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Member like to make a contribution?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences to the family of Leroy Riley [INAUDIBLE ].
The Speaker The Speaker MP, I think we are having an audio i ssue with you as well this morning. You may want to shift your location.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Does that help, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker That is a little clearer now, yes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I want to be associated with the condolences to [the family of] Mr. Leroy Riley.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I got to know him pers onally and he [INAUDIBLE ] myself. A s we came to [I NAUDIBLE] he shared with me as our relationship grew closer that it was to my great -grandmother they rose up [INAUDIBLE] and has committed to the [INAUD IBLE] ] and to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I would just like to send congratulations to a family member, Charles “Charlie” “Chuck” Swan, who today newly became Mister and Missus, a full member of that fam ily. He got married today, and congratulations to Chuck. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. And just for the clarity on that, you are congratulating a former Member on his marriage today. Your audio got a li ttle disturbed at that point. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution? No others? No other Member. Thank you, Members, for your …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are two Bills to be introduced this morning. The first is in the name of the Minister of Finance. Minister, would you like to introduce your Bill at this time? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended—
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. You can go ahead with the Bill. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, sir. FIRST READING INCORPORATED SEGREGATED ACCOUNTS COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I am intr oducing the following Bill for i ts first reading so that it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The second Bill this morning to be introduced is in the name of the Minister of Labour. Minister, would you like to move your Bill, i ntroduce your Bill? FIRST READING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE EXTENSION AND VALIDATION ACT 2021 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no Opposition Bills. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker [There are] no Private Members’ Bills. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker That now, Members, leads us to the Orders of today. And the first Order today is the second reading of the Development and Planning Amendment Act 2021, in the name of the Minister of Home Affairs. Minister, would you like to present your Bill? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to introduce for the second reading the Bill entitled the Development and Planning Amendment Act 2021. The purpose of this …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, if you do not mind, it is now 12:30. And if you would like to have us pause and we can come back after lunch? Hon. Walter H. Roban: But, Mr. Speaker, if you can I am not that far from finishing.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. 1742 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: If I can finish my opening statement, because sort of to not finish would be di sjointed.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker The reason I interrupted you was to find out how further along you are. How m uch more do you have? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I have not much more left, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. With the indulgence, we are g oing to allow you to finish, and then we will break. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the H ouse for obliging. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, additionally (and I will continue) this claim that, by the introduction …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister? Is the Premier there? Would either one of you like to move us to lunch? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn for lunch, to return back at 2:00 pm, 2:00 or 2:05, whichever one is best.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, 2:00 pm will be fine. Hon. E. David Burt: Two o’clock.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Are there any objections to that? No objections. The House stands adjourned to 2:00 pm. Procee dings suspended at 12:36 pm Bermuda House of Assembly Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, it is now 2:00 pm. We will resume the House after [having had our] lunch. When we ended the Minister of Home Affairs had presented his presentation on the first item on today’s Order, which is the Development and Planning [Amendment] Act 2021. He concluded his present ation before …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker MP, you have the floor. BILL SECOND READING DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2021 [Continuation of debate thereon]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr . Speaker. And I would like to start by thanking the Honourable Minister for bringing this legislation to the House of Assembly, as well as his leadership team for the work that they have done on it. I am not aware of . . . I was …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you can r efer to them, yes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The five key goals of the Bermuda Plan are to conserve open space and protect the Island’s natural and built heritage. The second of the five goals is to provide sufficient development pot ential to meet the community’s needs. The third key goal is to facilitate …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we will take your point of order, Minister. POINT OF ORDER [Misleadin g] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Mr. Speaker, I want to ensure that the Honourable Member does not mislead the House or the public to paint SDOs in a light that is not consistent with actual practice …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Member, just be mindful of the Minister’s i ntervention.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 11 Official Hansard Report, 18 May 2012, page 2085 I disagree, I certainly do not, I would never . . . yes, but I can . . . yes. I can 100 per cent agree that it is contained within the same piece of legislation, and …
The Speaker The Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Walter H. Roban: The Honourable Member is giving implications here that suggest that the special development order is a tool of something not . . . not . . . not proper to the law. And that is a false implic ation …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, the law in and of itself does not bind us, is not sacrosanct in that everything that takes place within i t is— Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Jarion Richardson —exactly ethical and moral.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member, I know, is new, but he certainly must realise he is misleading the Honourable House of Assembly by saying that the laws which this House passes do not bind us.
Mr. Jarion Richardson I wanted to finish that point, which might help the Honourable Premier.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardso n Many laws have been in e ffect . . . and we are not saying that about this one, but for some time slavery was legal and we can all agree that that was not ethical. So, I am trying to get to the point here, Mr. Speaker, that there …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Continue, Member.
Mr. J arion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, when we are talking about the positive affirmation procedure, we are obviously talking about there being a vote taking place before anything happens —not after. 1746 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Minister had said that we are going …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Education, it looks like you are trying to get m y attention. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, that is me, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Okay. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And welcome to colleagues. …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Do not worry, Member, I was just about to have a conversation with the Minister. Mr. Scott Pearman I would be grateful. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Minister, be mindful that every Member has a right to express themselves here. They come the same way that we all got here, to voice opinions of those that do not have a voice up here. We may not all agree . . . we may not always agree, but …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have reviewed the legislation, and I will admit there are improvements. We had a very productive meeting with the leadership of the Planning Depar tment yesterday. It was very enlightening. So, I would like to …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order, point of order. We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleadi ng] Hon. Walter H. Roban: The Honourable Member is misleading the House that somehow we are rolling legislation back. We are not. I was very clear in my brief. We are enhancing and …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Again, what will it be next year?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, thank you both for clarifying your points. Just be considerate of what was said by both and just go on with your presentation. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: What will it be next year? And so, how can the community feel that t hey are really committed to this …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, point of order. Hon. Walter H. Roban: If the Member will yield? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, I will yield. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Walter H. Roban: Would the Member not agree, Mr. Speaker, that waiting for Parliament to convene rather quickly could actually interrupt or interfere with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, MP Pearman. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I heard two voices.
Mr. Scott Pearman I think it was the Premier, I will defer.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier? Premier, would you like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. E. David Burt: I will defer, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker If no one wants to speak, we can have the Minister reply . . . respond and take us into committee.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am happy to go, I was going to let the Premier speak first and defend his Bill.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. We need either one of you to take the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Go ahead, Scott. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would —
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Pearman, MP Pearman?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Mr. S peaker, I was intending to speak very, very briefly about this Bill. And I was intending to do so in what I hoped would be an even- handed and fair manner. And the reason for my intent is there is much about this Bill that I …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman This was our debate on the SDO for R iddell’s Bay. And those who participated in that debate may recall that, in fact, the Opposition, in cer-tain instances, was supportive of the Minister’s pr oposals. But he said this —and this is Walter Roban, the Minister — “Mr. Speaker, please …
Mr. Scott Pearman —who review the laws —
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order, Minister. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Walt er H. Roban: I will, again, as the other Member did in a previous part of this debate, point out the misleading statement the Honourable Member has made is that even negative resolutions that are laid in the House are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Member, just be mindful of the Minister’s i ntervention.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful for the Minister’s intervention. And as he well knows, that is a load of tosh. The reason we have it come to Parliament for debate is so that Parliament can decide. It is not for the Minist er or the Board or the [ INAUDIBLE ] to …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, Member.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 4“‘The most concerning amendment is a pr oposal that will remove the ability of Parliament to d ebate and vote on Special Development Orders [SDOs].’” (Before they are issued.) “‘Instead, the Mi nister of the Environment will have the power to issue an SDO at his …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 5“‘We believe that not enough thought has been applied to the details and consequences of the proposed amendments and we urge that they be withdrawn and reconsidered. . . . Of particular concern is the fact that Special Development Orders [SDOs], which currently undergo parliamentary scrutiny, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, good afternoon. How are you?
The Speaker The Speaker I am good, sir.
Mr. Christopher Famous Can you hear and see me fine, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker I hear you. You are missing this though, so I do not know if I am seeing you fine, but a little red would have been nice in there, how is that? Go ahead, my friend, you have got the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I often . . . they tell me you have to listen twice as much as you speak. And I always find it interesting when I listen to the Opposition as to what they put so much passion into. There were two Honourable Members from [constituencies] 22 and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? Minister. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. S peaker. Mr. Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to contribute to this debate this afternoon on the Devel-opment and Planning Amendment Act 2021. I have appreciated the opportunity to listen to colleagues on both sides of the floor as …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Anyone else? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my contributions this afternoon will be brief. And my contributions will be that out of the three things that are inside of this particular Bill — the thre e main items which are inside of this particular Bill— I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? None? Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the debate has concluded with the contr ibutions, I will happily do a summation of the discus-sion. And, Mr. Speaker, I do this with great pleasure. I do it with great pleasure, hearing the comments and compliments that the Honourable …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Walter H. Roban: But Mr. Speaker — The Spe aker: Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker I will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, that is what I said, the single premise is the greater efficiencies.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Continue, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, Mr. Speaker, I would suggest that is incorrect. It is not just about greater efficiencies, but that is what the Honourable Member said. He talked about a single premise. That is not the single premise of the Bill. The Bill br ings …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker. That is his o pinion. I just want to make sure that the general public understands that that is just the Minister’s opi nion on whose record is what is concerning the env ironment.
The Speaker The Speaker Noted. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member does not want me to list the record because it would be too painful for the OBA to hear. But I will move on, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Please do. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, he is happy to list what record he believes. But I will be listening.
The Speaker The Speaker No, he is going to move on, so he can continue to go forward. We don’t have to go bac kwards. Hon. Walter H. Roban: No, Mr. Speaker, I will not digress into a diatribe with any other Members. I am summing up my presentation on this Bill. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, we have a point of order we will take. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Member is misleading the House at best. Those projects that he has mentioned certainly had broad consultation. And what I find interesting is that in regard to the St. Regis and the airport, Government officials were there …
The Speaker The Speaker All right, [we] appreciate your contrib ution. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: The only hypocrisy is the fact that the “in principle” approval of the Act was done without . . . was done with great protestation from the St. George’s community and not consistent with the advice given by …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burg ess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You are in the Chair, sir. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 3:49 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2021
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Development and Planning Amen dment Act 2021 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I seek your guidance. Would it be preferable for me …
The Chairman Chairman You may, if there are no objections, you may. Hon. Walter H. Roban: All right. Mr. Chairman, there is also a motion that I am also going to . . . and this may be where I will pause at clause 4. I believe that motion has been forwarded to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Okay. Hon. Wa lter H. Roban: An amendment to clause 5.
The Chairman Chairman Well, let us do clauses 1 through 3 first and then we can do clause 4. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is why I seek your guidance because it gives me the right direction. Thank y ou very much.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. No problem. Continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: All right, thank you. The Bill seeks, Mr. Chairman, to amend the Development and Planning Act 1974 (“the principal Act”) to give the Minister the power during a national emergency to implement procedures to allow the D irector of Planning to expedite …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? There appear to be no further speakers. Minister, do you want to move clauses 1 through 3? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I so move. Okay, Mr. Cha irman, I move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections to clauses 1 through 3 being approved? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: There is an objec tion, Mr. Chairman, there is an objection to [new section 14A](5) under clause 3.
The Chairman Chairman You fellows are slow. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: We are not approving. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Wait a minute. Mr. Chairman, I thought we had moved the clauses. You had called for objections and— Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: He asked us do we approve all of them and …
The Chairman Chairman No. I asked if you approve clauses 1 through 3. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Right. And I am in [cla use] 3, [new section 14A](5).
The Chairman Chairman Yes, okay, but nobody said anything. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: [INAUD IBLE] Mr. Chai rman, we are registering our disa pproval of clause 3, which is [new section] 14A(5). We are just registering our disapproval. That is all.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, but the procedure, Mr. Oppos ition Leader, there were no speakers to clauses 1 through 3. When we move to have them approved, all right, they are approved. You are supposed . . . you did not speak against them. If you— Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I know, …
The Chairman Chairman Okay, all right. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Just that [clause] 3, [new section 14A](5).
The Chairman Chairman Okay, all right. Hon. Walter H. Roban: [INAUDI BLE] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: You may proceed.
The Chairman Chairman Okay, thank you. Continue. Clauses 1 through 3 have been approved over the objection of [new section 14A](5) [by] the Opposition. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Mr. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I now will continue to read the clause- byclause description. Clause 4 amends section 15 of the principal Act to provide that, before making a development o rder, the Minister shall cause the conduct of public consultation of an …
The Chairman Chairman Let us deal with the amendment first. Are there any speakers to the amendment? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, I wou ld. On [clause] 4, [subsection] (b).
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Again, I would like to regi ster the Opposition’s objection to [clause] 4(b) “by deleting ‘affirmative’ and substituting ‘negative.’” I am just registering our objection t o that amendment. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Understood.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Minister, do you want to move the amendment? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I wish to move clause 4 as written, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, the . . . it has been moved that the amendm ent 4 be approved. Are there any objections to that? Can I hear . . . can you signify by voice?
Mr. Scott Pearman What is the amendment, Mr. Chairman?
The Chairman Chairman You do not have the amendment, Honourable Member?
Mr. Scott Pearman No, Mr. Chairman, I’m not sure anyone on our side has the amendment. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, okay, wait a minute. Mr. Chairman, if you can advise me, the amendment that we submitted is in clause 5, not in clause 4.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member — Hon. Walter H. Roban: I was just moving . . . I was just describing clause 4, but our amendment that we submitted for consideration and we submitted to the House yesterday is in clause 5. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: We do not see the amendment, …
The Chairman Chairman Come on, you guys. What is . . . [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Opposition Leader, do you have the amendment? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I do not have it, Mr. Chai rman. [Crosstalk] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay. We found . . . I am sorry, Mr. Chairman, my mistake and I apologise for speaking in a misleading way. It wa s …
The Chairman Chairman That is what I had down. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —and I apologise for misleading the House unintentionally. It is actually an amendment to cla use 6. I am sorry. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Accepted.
The Chairman Chairman There you go. Okay, let us do clauses 4 and 5 then. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay. I will now speak to the description of clause 5, I am sorry. Clause 5 inserts section 15A into the princi pal Act to provide that the Director of Planning shall pr epare …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers to clauses 4 and 5? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Again, I would like to register the Opposition’s disapproval of the negative resolution in the proc edures and development orders. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Any further speakers? …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 4 and 5 be approved as printed. Any objections to that? The Opposition has voiced their objections to clause 5, I think it is, and it is approved by the Go vernment. [Motion carried: Clauses 4 and 5 passed.] Hon. Walter H. Roban: May …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, do you want to do your amendment on [clause] 6? AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 6 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, sir, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at this juncture I would like to make the following motion that the Development and Planning Amendment Bill 2021 be amended as follows: “In clause …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any speakers to the amendment? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Opposition does not support the amendment. I think it is correct as written,
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Okay. So you do not support th e amendment. Okay. Are there any further speakers to the amendment? Hon. Walter H. Roban: We register the objection.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Minister, do you want to move that amendment? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Chairman, I do move the amendment as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 6 be approved as amended. Any objections? The Opposition has regi stered their objection to that. Any other objections? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Amendment to clause 6 passed.] Hon. Walter H. Roban: So now I will go down to clauses …
The Chairman Chairman Continue with clauses 7 and 8. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Chairman, we have not spoken to clause 6 yet.
The Chairman Chairman Oh. I’m sorry. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I’m sorry. Yes. I will read the description for clause 6, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Clause 6 inserts Part IVA, sections 25A and 25B, into the principal Act to provide for the designation of protected cons ervation areas on privately owned land. On written agreement with the landowner, the Minister may publish an order in the Gazette to designate an …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to clause 6?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Chairman. 1764 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Mr. Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister, clause 6 inserts new [section] 25A and on page 4 of the Bill you dealt with the amendment at [section] 25A(2). My question relates to the subclause below that, [section] 25A(3). And as you just read in the explanation, where there is a removal of …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, may I speak or shall I hold?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, yes. Continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: During the debate, we made it clear that the removal of any property from being protected will require the full parliamentary scrutiny. But the addition of that land to the protected, that new protected class, will only need the negative resolution subject to …
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Chairman, I defer to the O pposition Leader there, but I still have a question if I may? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons : Yes, go ahead.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister, the terms “adding,” “changing” and “removing” appear in [new section 25A] (3)(a), (3)(b), and (3)(c). Now, those are not, insofar as I can tell, defined terms in the primary Act. I have just looked in the primary Act. I may be wrong. It is a …
Mr. Scott Pearman But, Minister, given what you are trying to achiev e here, and I commend what you are trying to achieve here, why wouldn’t they all be su bject to the affirmative resolution procedure? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I think we have addressed that already, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Scott Pearman No, I don’t think so, res pectfully. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, I do, Mr. Chairman. I think we have adequately addressed it.
The Chairman Chairman But, Minister, there is no problem in giving an answer to that because we want clarity. There is no problem with asking the question— Hon. Walter H. Roban: Oh, I—
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay. I have no problem with the question. But all of those changes that are r eferred to in that clause will be done with the agre ement of the landholder. So, just as the putting in of these substantive holding with …
The Chairman Chairman The Honourable Member has asked that if there is a change in the boundary, meaning that the lot becomes larger, is there a stamp duty attached to that? Hon. Walter H. Roban: A stamp duty? No. No, no. Not for this. No. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. I just …
The Chairman Chairman Any further comments? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Oh! And also, just an added point, Mr. Chairman, it has nothing to do with conve yance.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. 1766 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Land use. Not conveyance. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman No further comments? Minister, complete clauses 7 and 8 then. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for your obliging me and I am happy to have explained answers to those questions for the Opposition.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, clause 7 i nserts the Fifth Schedule to the principal Act which will contain a list of protected conservation areas. Clause 8 provides a consequential amendment to the Protected Species Act 2003 to make clear the distinction between an area designated as a …
The Chairman Chairman And clause 9, yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: And clause 9 provides that the Bill will come into operation on a day appointed by the Minister in the Gazette.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers to clauses 7, 8 and 9? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Minister, do you want to move clause 6, as amended, and clauses 7 and 8? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Chairman, I move claus es 7 and 8 as printed.
The Chairman Chairman And clause 9. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Clauses 7, 8 and 9 as printed. I am sorry.
The Chairman Chairman And clause 6 as amended. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, thank you for your gui dance, Mr. Chairman. And clause 6 as amended.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to the motion? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 6 passed as amended.] [Motion carried: Clauses 7 through 9 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you want to move the Schedules and then the preamble? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Chairman. I move the Schedule and the preamble as printed.
The Chairman Chairman You have to do the Schedule first. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I’m sorry, Mr. Chairman. [Crosstalk] Hon. Walter H. Roban: I move that the preamble be appro ved. The Deputy Clerk: Mr. Chairman, you do not have to move the Schedule because the Schedule is a part of clause 7.
The Chairman Chairman Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Somner. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as amended. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. The Bill will be reported to the House as amended. [Motion carried: The Development and Planning Amendment Act 2021 was considered by a Commi …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 4:14 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you, Deputy. Members, are there any objections to the Development and Planning Amendment Act 2021 being reported to …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? Any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING PUBLIC TREASURY (ADMINISTRATION AND PAYMENTS) AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 202 1 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, the Gover nment wishes this Honourable House to now give consideration to the Bill entitled Public Treasury …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I support the Minister’s introduction. The pandemic was catastrophi c to this country, both from a health point of view and an economic point of view. Our economy virtually closed down. There was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, yes.
Mr. Scott Pearman I’m just getting the video on. Hopefully it is on. Here we are. Mr. Speaker, thank you v ery much. Thanks to the Honourable Minister for his clear and concise presentation of this Bill. We have actually had a Mini sterial Statement on this Bill at the last sitting. There …
Mr. Scott Pearman Sorry, $500,000. I slipped. I am just curious how much more has been recovered since that Statement to the House two weeks ago. Mr. Speaker, my second and final question to the Honourable Minister is this: As I understand it, the reason for these overpayments was that someone was out …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? There appears to be none. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to respond to some of the questions put forth by the Opposition Leader and others. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 4:38 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL PUBLIC TREASURY (ADMINISTRATION AND PAYMENTS) AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2021
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Public Treasury (Administration and Payments) Amendment and Validation Act 2021 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, the Bill seeks to amend the Public Tr easury …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 1 is self - explanatory. Bermuda House of Assembly Clause 2 amends section 22A(1) of the Act to insert paragraph (b) to ensure that the provisions with respect to the right to set -off extend to sums paid for the purpose of assisting …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there an y further speakers? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Minister, do you want to move those clauses for approval? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I move that the Bill be r eported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Public Treasury (Administration and Payments) Amendment and Validation Act 2021 was considered …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 4:41 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE PUBLIC TREASURY (ADMINISTRATION AND PAYME NTS) AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2021
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Members, are there any objections to the Public Treasury (Administration and Payments) Amendment and Validation Act 2021 being reported to the House as printed? No objections. The B ill has been reported as printed. Members, thank you for your contributions today. That brings us to the end …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Walter H. Roban: I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill ent itled the Development and Planning Amendment Act 2021 be now read a th ird time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Hon. Walter H. Rob an: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its title only and …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. Thank you, Minister. Minister of Finance. 1772 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING PUBLIC TREASURY (ADMINISTRATION AND PAYMENTS) AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION ACT 2021 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson : Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Public Treasury (Administration and Payments) Amendment and Validation Act 2021 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members and Ministers.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Friday, July 23.
The Speaker The Speaker At 10:00 am? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, 10:00 am would be a good time. And I understand that the Deputy Speaker would like to say something.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any Member — Hon. E. David Burt: Maybe you can throw down the gavel again, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Well, it is in my hand. Would any Member wish to make a comment on the motion to adjourn this evening? Any Members? Mr. Christopher Famous: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. Can you see me, Mr. Spea ker?
The Speaker The Speaker I hear you; I do not see you yet.
Mr. Christopher Famous Hold on. I am having problems with my video, Mr. Speaker. Hold on. Can you see me? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: If he has problems, can I go, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Well, let the Deputy Speaker go right now. The Deputy Speaker seems to be ready. We can sort you out afterwards then. Okay? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, MP Famous.
The Speaker The Speaker We can just get yo ur camera adjusted, Deputy. We hear you loud and clear. BANK ACCOUNTS FOR SENIORS Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Okay. I am trying to get that going. Mr. Speaker, over the last couple of weeks I have had complaints about some residents of Berm uda, …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead, Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. He was talking about somebody, “This clearly is a sign that there continues to be a divide in our community where the historically disadvantaged are seen as corrupt and the historically privileged are seen as deserving.” That is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Deputy, I believe you had a good line and length until you got there. I think you missed the wicket there at the end. [Laughter] Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Simmons?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons I will defer to my colleague, Mr. Famous. He was in line. I thought he left the meeting. I will defer.
The Speaker The Speaker I could not recognise him by what he had on his face. I was not sure who he was that time.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker —
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Now that I see him I think I will have to rescind my offer. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous, your colleague gave way to you before he noticed what you were wearing. So you have 20 minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous Thank you, colleague. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my opening bat—
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Scott Pearman The Member of Parliament is improperly dressed for Parliament and needs to r emove his mask. [Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker, I concur that he is impro perly dressed.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. I think you need to adjust your . . . there you go. Now we can allow you to speak. How is that?
Mr. Christopher Famous Well, do you see my light blue shirt and my dark blue jacket, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker We are stil l trying to get the colour a djusted here. PLP GOVERNMENT FOCUSED AND UNITEDLY TACKLING THE ISSUES
Mr. Christopher Famous I want to thank my opening bat, the prolific batter from Harris’ Bay, transplanted to Bailey’s Bay when appropriate, the Bishop, bec ause he said in his closing argument everything I want to say so there is no need for me to repeat that, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Mr. Christopher Famous There is a gentleman called Charles Dickens. According to history, he wrote quite a few books. But we never know. There were a lot of ghostwriters around at that time. But according to history there is a sayi ng from Charles Dickens, credited to Charles Dickens that said, “ It …
The Speaker The Speaker You have about a minute . . . about 56 seconds.
Mr. Christopher Famous Through it all, Mr. Speaker, we have stood firm. So I say to my brothers, PLP, all the way! United we stand, divided we fall. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker, again.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Simmons. Would you like to take your 20 minutes now, sir?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmon s I won’t take that long, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 20 minutes. Go ahead. PLP GOVERNMENT SEEKING TO CHANGE THE MIND -SET AND TRANSFORM BERMUDA 1778 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons: Mr. Speaker, I rise today out of a sense of obligation to the people who elected …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? Hon. E. David Burt: I guess . . . am I ready to close? Hon. Michael H. Dunkl ey: Mr. Speaker. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker MP . . . I hear . . . MP— Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. I think my microphone is unmuted and my video should be recording now.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley. BERMUDA TRAVEL AUTHORISAT ION FORM Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, good evening to you and colleagues. I appreciate the opportunity to speak on the motion to adjourn tonight, Mr. Speaker, after listening very assiduously to Members who spoke before me. I speak because …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, this is from a long-time visitor to Bermuda and his wife who have travelled from their home in California to Bermuda every year, sometimes a couple of times a year, just because they lov e the Island that we call home. This …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I am just getting the video up, Mr. Speaker. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: It’s up.
The Speaker The Speaker Right. You have your 20 minutes. NATIONAL SPORTS CENTRE CONTRACT
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you are aware, on June 25 in the motion to adjourn I had asked some pertinent questions about a contract that had been awarded to AESG. And I was just really trying to come to some clarity as to how from 2018 to now, 2021, …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, I would suggest, if you are not going to table it, that you at least make sure that I have eyesight of what you are referring to, on both of those items.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr . Speaker, I will give you a folder that is full of pages and I will ensure that 1782 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly this gets to you from our secretary, Judy Benevides, ASAP.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So my concern really is that we now have a contract in front of us, no one seems to know who the borrower is because on behalf of the National Sports Centre there is a signator that should be given by a trustee or the director. …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: There are a few things I have to say. Number one, the fact that we do not have s ight of what the Honourable Member is speaking about is a challenge. And number two, I do not know if there …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, that is why I asked that he make sure that the documentation arrives at this office and i f the documentation when vetted is not correct, I would expect that the Member would do the right thing. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, the documentation is on its …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I want the rest of it sent to him as well. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: What?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I want all of it sent to him.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I appreciate the Premier stepping in, but I would c aution the Premier right now because I have the documentation coming from the National Sports Centre in writing with signatures. And I would caution the Premier to be very careful what he says going forward because the information is in …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier In addition to that, Mr. Speaker, —
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute. Let him finish what he saying. Finish what you are saying.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier In addition to that, Mr. Speaker, I am clearly aware that phone calls were made after I just asked general questions. But I am not making any accusations at all. I am simply asking questions. That is what I am doing right now —
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Okay.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —is asking questions.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I allowed you to continue based on that last point. I would suggest that you not make any accusations. If you have something in front of you that you think is factual, you can speak to what you were pr ovided but do not make any accusations out of …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What I will do then, Mr. Speaker, is I will pr esent some of this information right now and read it verbatim. And as I said, I have our secretary who will be forwarding this information to you in writing so that the Premier can be …
The Speaker The Speaker You cannot say if you are not sure. You cannot say if you are not sure.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am sure, Mr. Speaker. This is a letter coming from a trustee to the Permanent Secretary of the National Sports [Centre] and the letter basically . . . the subject matter, says: “National Sports Centre letter cease and desist from finance.” This is coming from the finance of the …
The Speaker The Speaker I would suggest right now that you do not refer to names until we can get this verified.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay? Just be very cautious about how you proceed in regard to that.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Well, I was giving you the factual information, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We need to verify that it is factual. I cannot dispute that you do have a document. You do have a document. At this point we cannot verify how factual the information may be. So that is why I am asking you to refrain from naming any individuals.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay, Mr. Speaker. Let’s take a different tac k here. I am going to send this documentation to you. It is clear in my mind that questions need to be asked and that answers need to be forthcoming. We already have someone who has resigned. We also have trustees who …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Let me be clear about this here— Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member, of course, as usual, is misleading the House. So we will try one more time. I can confirm to him that the $12,000 to which he speaks is not part of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I anticipated that from the Premier. And, quite frankly, it was very predictable. The reason that I am coming forth now with these questions is because when I did ask questions in the House of Assembly the PLP Government refused to come back to us — …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —to answer — Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order, point of order. Member, point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the record reflects that no parliamentary questions have been submitted by that Member regarding the National Sports Centre.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Again, Mr. Speaker, here is the Premier in his spin. I asked the questions on a motion to adjourn expecting some answers. We did not get answers, but what did take place was that we had Honourable Members go to the public and give information to the public rather than …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, you have less than a minute left.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, the— Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Let me, let me . . . let me before . . . are you going to use up your minute?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I am going to use up my minute.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So the Premier —
The Speaker The Speaker I want to caution you when you’re fi nished. Go ahead.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. So the Premier can continue on with his assumption that he knows where I am going, but I am simply trying to clarify the matter. That is all we are trying to do, [trying] to clarify the matter. Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is imputing improper motive. And it is a very simple situation. If people want to know facts, they will lay it out and ask questions in a regular and simple fashion. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: It is just [INAUDIBLE ].
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr . Speaker. The Premier is well aware that—
The Speaker The Speaker Member, let me just —
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —let civil servants —
The Speaker The Speaker Member, Member. Your time has run out. But let me just caution you where I have been all this time in that your infor mation that you have b efore you . . . you have strongly tried to stress the points in it. Again, it has been done without …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier More is coming. There is a whole lot more coming.
The Speaker The Speaker Wait. Not anything to the degree of what you were speaking of. So, I am going to insist that I get the full documentation of what you spoke of so that we can verify what was said. And again, if there is anything that needs to be withdrawn, you will …
Mr. L. Crai g Cannonier Mr. Speaker, I promise you what I said is —
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to put that on the record because of the fact that we could have it in front of us now and you have used the privilege to be able to speak to it. But that privilege comes with some r esponsibility. Okay? 1786 16 Jul y 2021 …
The Speaker The Speaker Just get it to us as quickly as possible. Thank you. Would any other Member with to speak on the motion to adjourn? Any other Member? Hon. E. David Burt: Well, Mr. Speaker, I certainly would like to fi nish, but I thought that another one of my Members was …
The Speaker The Speaker It seems that no one else is moving. Mr. Premier, I can put the gavel down now, or I can let you use the last 20 minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: You do not have to put the gavel down, Mr. Speaker. If no one else is going to speak, …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you . . . whoops, sorry, a Member stood up right there, Mr. Speaker. There’s a few—
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Speaker, if I may?
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Campbell, I had acknowledged the Premier —
Mr. Vance Campbell I understand, Mr. Speaker. I understand.
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to be (what’s the word?) . . . I will b e cordial this time. Next time try to be a little quicker, please. PLP GOVERNMENT FOCUSED AND UNITEDLY TACKLING THE ISSUES
Mr. Vance Campbell Much appreciated, much appreciated. Mr. Speaker, I want to go back to November 27, 2020, one of the great days of last year, my birthday. But that is not what makes it great. It was my opportunity to deliver my maiden speech. And I spoke about my village, because, you …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Campbell. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Hayward, you have your 20 minutes. PLP GOVERNMENT PEOPLE- CENTRED Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me to provide intervention in this motion to adjourn this evening. Mr. Speaker, I am going to carry on from where MP Campbell finished. We have a responsibi lity as …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have less than a minute left. Hon. Jason Hay ward: —things that would assist with moving Bermuda forward. I thank you, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me that brief intervention.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson, you have your 20 minutes. BERMUDA TRAVEL AUTHORISATION FORM
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to say a few words in refl ection of my recent experience using the travel authorisation form. I travelled overseas. And my observation with the travel authorisation form is that when Bermudians are overseas, in the first instance it is rare that people …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Burch?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have your 20 minutes.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I have sorted out my technical difficulties.
The Speaker The Speaker You sound nice and clear this time. We just can’t see you at the moment.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Bermuda House of Assembly PLP GOVERNMENT BALANCING THE CHA LLENGES OF COVID -19
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I would like to follow in the footsteps of some of my colleagues who have talked about COVID -19 and this journey that we have been on for 17 months now. Mr. Speaker, I know that Bermudians are special —all of us. And we think that the world …
Speaker The Speaker Why do people who are now criticising a process of mandatory quarantine where they have to pay for themselves and they can do it at home, and we’ve heard all of the arguments, Mr. Speaker . . . they cannot. We have been down this road before. We had quarantine …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have one minute.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. One minute, Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay, I will skip to the ending then. Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Acting Speaker, we have governed with one thing at the forefront of our minds throughout this exercise. And that is every decision we make is in order to protect the health and wealth of the people of …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak at this time?
Mr. Wayne Caines Yes, Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Is that MP Caines?
Mr. Wayne Caines Yes, Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, MP Caines, you have the floor. Do you have your video camera on?
Mr. Wayne Caines Yes, Madam Acting Speaker, my camera is on.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, thank you. You have 20 minutes. PLP FOCUSED A ND UNITEDLY TACKLING THE ISSUES —You are speaking to Minister Hayward
Mr. Wayne Caines Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. If I had to name my 20 minutes this after-noon, I would entitle it “You are speaking to Minister Hayward.” Over the last few weeks, over the last 15 to 16 months, we have had a period of differences in opi nion.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Member, before you continue, I am still unable to see you. Can anybody attest if they can see him? He is not showing up on my screen.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes, we can see him.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, thank you. Sorry for the interruption.
Mr. Wayne Caines Hello, can you see me?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members We can see you.
Mr. Wayne Caines If I had to entitle this it would be “You are speaking to Minister Hayward. ” I had the opportunity over the last 15 months to consider differences in opinions from political co l-leagues, differences in opinions of medical experts, differences in opinions of family members, differences in opinions from …
Mr. Jache Adams Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker With whom am I speaking?
Mr. Jache Adams MP Adams.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, MP Adams. You have the floor. You have 20 minutes. NATIONAL SPORTS CENTRE CONTRACT
Mr. Jache Adams Madam Acting Speaker, I must say that this evening I have the unenviable task of following MP Caines with his passionate and em otional speech on the motion to adjourn. But noneth eless, I will continue. Madam Acting Speak er, it has come to me a common quote that I …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Acting Speaker. The Acting Spea ker: Yes, Premier. Is that you? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, it is me.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You must have a magic camera because you are the only one who has come that I can see. Hon. E. David Burt: I understand. Madam Acting Speaker , I will tell you the h onest to God truth, I contemplated not speaking after the Member from c onstituency 19 …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Are you speaking, Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: I am!
The Acting Speaker The Speaker O kay. Hon. E. David Burt: I am going to close this out this motion to adjourn, it’s time for us to go home.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. You have 20 minutes. NATIONAL SPORTS CENTRE CONTRACT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. I appreciate that. Madam Acting Speaker, earlier today we wi tnessed a despicable innuendo– laced attack on private citizens and Members of this House under the cloak of parliamentary privilege without even …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Premier, the Speaker has taken the Chair so you can acknowledge him. [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] Hon. E. David Burt: All right. It is so good to see the red and blue tie. Madam Acting Speaker, I like your ensemble.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Blue and blue all the way! I am taking advantage while I am the Acting Speaker. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: At least his tie matches mine! Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, Premier. 1798 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. So here is the difference. While their candidates troll press conferences and stand outside, we work. While they look to attack and demonise people in …
Speaker The Speaker When other countries are seeing surges in cases, when other countries are having to re - implement r estrictions, when other countries are finding themselves having to close down shops and stores and everything else after reopening their borders to tourists, we are not, because we believe that what we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Members, that now brings today ’s [sitting] to a close. I thank all Members who have contributed t oday. The Premier just mentioned that I will not be pr esent next week, and he is correct. You will be in the capable hands of the Deputy …
The Speaker The Speaker Have a great, great Cup Match season! Thank you. Good night.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Good night. Blue and blue all the way! [At 7:50 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am Friday, 23 July 2021.] 1800 16 Jul y 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentionally left blank.]
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