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House of Assembly Session 2020/2021 504 speeches

June 4, 2021

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Session Summary

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This was a routine parliamentary session focused on ministerial statements and question period. The Education Minister announced a new loan program offering up to $4,800 per month to help Bermudians complete teacher certification during their unpaid 12-week teaching practicum. The Transport Minister announced new charter flights to the Azores starting mid-June, aimed at serving Bermuda's Portuguese community. The Works Minister announced the government was backing out of purchasing the Sandys 360 facility due to ongoing legal complications with debt issues.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jun 4, 2021
Session 2020/2021
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Speakers 28
Speeches 504

Key Topics

New Teacher Certification Bonded Loan program to help Bermudians become qualified teachersSATA Azores Airlines launching charter flights between Bermuda and the Azores starting June 13Government cancelling the purchase of Sandys 360 Sports Centre after 3 years of legal delaysAnnual reports from the Parole Board and Treatment of Offenders Board for 2020Questions about the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund's investments and performance

Bills & Motions

No bills were debated or voted on in this session. Several regulations and reports were tabled for information, including electricity regulations, fisheries regulations, pension scheme regulations, and various annual reports from government boards and authorities.

Notable Moments

The Works Minister disclosed personal connections to Sandys Secondary School as both an alumni and descendant of one of its founders
Opposition questioned the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund's performance, learning it has raised $88 million but only invested about $21.6 million in three projects
The fund has committed to controversial projects including electric vehicle rentals, internet services, and a solar project at the airport

Debate Transcript

504 speeches from 28 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are now about to start the House. Ms. Beale, would you like to lead us in pra yer? PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are now in session for this sitting. Thank you for the prayers, Ms. Beale. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 21 May 2021]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes from the 21st of May have been c irculated. Are there any amendments to be made? There are none. The Minutes will be reported as printed. [Minutes of 21 May 2021 confirmed. ] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we have some 11 papers or communications to be done at this point. The first is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, would you like to present your communication at this time? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to Members and …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. ELECTRICITY (LICENCE THRESHOLD) TEMPOR ARY AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2021 FISHERIES (FISH POTS) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2021 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I have the ho nour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the E lectricity ( Licence Threshold) Temporar y Amendment Regulations …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. The next is in the name of the . . . I believe there are a few of them here, all in the name of the Minister of Finance. Minister of Finance, would you like to present your matters at this time? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. NATIONAL PENSION SCHEME (REFUND) (TEMPORARY) REGULATIONS 2021 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the National Pension Scheme (Refund) (Temporary) Regulations 2021 , proposed to be made by the Minister of Finance …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Do the next ones . 1480 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY ANNUAL REPORT 2020 BERMUDA PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD ANNU AL REPORT 2020 BERMUDA PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ENDING MARCH 31, 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Continue with your next. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: That is it, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Okay. Thank you. [You] g ot ahead of me that time. No problem . The next will be in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister of Works, I believe you have two as well.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A . Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. EXCHANGE OF LAND AGREEMENT BETWEEN CORPORATION OF HAMILTON AND HAMILTON WAREHOUSE COMPANY LIMITED
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, I do. The first one is, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Exchange of Land Agreement between the Corporation of Hamilton and Hamilton Warehouse Company Limited , reference areas the land situated in the City of Hamilton …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. SALE AND PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CORPORATION OF HAMILTON AND ARNOLD’S DISCOUNT LIMITED
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And the second one is, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consi deration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Sale and Purchase Agreement between the Corpor ation of Hamilton and Arnold’s Discount Limited, reference areas of all of that triangular par cel of land measuring …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next item is in the name of the Minister of Health, Minister Wilson. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. PUBLIC HEALTH (COVID- 19) EMERGENCY EXTENSION (NO . 3) ORDER 2021 Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Public Health (COVID -19) Emergency Extension (N o. 3) Order 2021 , proposed to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next two items are in the name of the Minister of National Security. You can present your items. Hon. Renee Ming: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. PAROLE BOARD ANNUAL REPORT 2020 TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD (TOOB) REPORT 2020 Hon. Renee Ming: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Parole Board Report 2020 and the Treatment of Offenders Board (TOOB) Report for 2020 . …
The Speaker The Speaker There are no ne. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we have listed six Stat ements; however, four or five are going to be given this morning. The Minister of Labour has withdrawn his Statement at this time. So the first Statement this morning is from the Minister of Education. Minister, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, Minister. TEACHER CERTIFICATION BONDED LOAN Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, t his morning I rise before you and my h onourable colleagues to share a new initiative that the Ministry is putting in place to support Bermudians pursuing a career in the teaching profession to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning on the Order Paper is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: G ood morni ng, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. SATA AZORES AIRLINES Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to inform this Honourable House that on the 13th of June 2021 Bermuda will welcome Azores Airlines [previously known as SATA Internacional] for their inaugural flight from the Azores. This flight will be the first in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister. RESCINDING OF THE APPROVAL FOR THE PU RCHASE OF SANDYS 360
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise the House of the rescinding of the approval granted to the Government of Bermuda to purchase from the Trustees of the Sandys Secondary School for a purchase price of BD$1 million for the unencumbered freehold interest of the 2.5 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next two Statements this morning are in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister would you like to do your first Stat ement? Hon. Rene e Ming: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. THE PAROLE BOARD REPORT 2020 Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to i ntroduce to the Legislature the Parole Board Annual Report 2020 , as prescribed by section 8 of the Parole Board Act 2001. The annual report provides an overview of the decisions of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister, would you like to do your second Statement? Hon. Renee Ming: Yes. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD (TOOB) REPORT 2020 Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to introduce to the Legislature the Treatment of Offenders Board Annual Report 2020 , as prescribed by Section 8 of the Treatment of Offenders Board A ct and Rule 170 of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that brings us to a close of the Statements for today. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker As we all know, we have 60 minutes for the Question Period. And the time now is 10:32. And we are going to start this morning with the written questions. There are a series of written questions for Ministers. The first written question this morning is from the Opposition Leader …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Given that the Government of Bermuda has a seat on the Board of Directors of the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund in exchange for a guarantee —
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, we hear you, but we do not see you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: How about now?
The Speaker The Speaker Now we do. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. Want me to start again?
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Continue. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I will start again.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA INFRASTRUCTURE FUND/CA PITAL RAISED Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Given that the Government of Bermuda has a seat on the Board of Directors of the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund in exchange for a guarantee of the minimum management fee paid to the fund manager , will the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. [Pause] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. 1486 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Curtis L . Dickinson: Sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Are we at Parliamentary Questions?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Parliamentary Questions. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker The first written question from the O pposition Leader was j ust read out to you, and you need to supply the answer for that. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: [All right]. Yes, as best as I can. The Bermuda Infrastructure Fund commenced operations on the 27th of April of 2018. …
The Speaker The Speaker No supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second question. QUESTION 2: BERMUDA INFRASTRUCTURE FUND/INVESTMENT VALUE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Will the Honourable Mini ster please inform this Honourable House of the full details and the dollar value of each investment that the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund has made into Bermuda’s infrastructure projects from inception to date?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: To date the fund has i nvested, committed to invest or targeted to invest $21.6 million into three separate investments. The first is Rugged Rentals, which is a start -up miniature electric vehicle rental business. It is a fleet of 20 vehicles growing to 50 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your first supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Minister indicated that the fund had committed to $21.6 million. How much have they actually paid or actually invested at this point?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Di ckinson: Mr. Speaker, I just provi ded the sums of the parts of that [which] answer those numbers in my answers previously. I mentioned the amounts that have been committed to and spent on Rugged Rentals, Horizon Communications and the Bermuda Airport …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, no. Y ou have had your two supplementals. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker So you can move on to your third question. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: My third question is — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I have a question.
The Speaker The Speaker You have a su pplemental on that particular question? MP Dunkley would like to put a su pplemental. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Honourable Minister in regard to this question, can the Honourable Minister please inform this Hon ourable House the length of time …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: In the private equity space, typically —and I would put the word “typically” in quotation marks —deals are entered into. And once they have been fully funded or are being executed on by their respective management teams, the underlying investors take a very opportunistic view …
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, can you mute yourself while the other MP puts his questions? Hon. N. H. Co le Simons: Yes, I can. Sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, just finish your question. [Crosstalk /Feedback ] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: —the Opposition Leader’s background conversation. Let me finish the answer. The underlying managers will decide for themsel ves whenever it is optimal for them to liquidate an investment. Typically, the funds have an advertised life of around …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Opposition Leader, would you like to do your third question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, supplementary. MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, supplementary? MP Pearman has a supplementary on this second question. Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Minister, the Opposition Leader asked you about the applications that were being made for monies to be released from the funds. And you said you could not identify the applicants or what they were about. Are you able to tell this Honourable House how many …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I believe the question that I answered was, Can I advise the Honourable House of those transactions that are pending or under consideration? I cannot. Similarly, I cannot talk to what is being considered by the managers. The Government of Bermuda is a …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Second supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary. Go a head.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, you gave a figure. I think I heard you say $26 million. Forgive me if I got the number wrong. Is that the complete amount in the fund?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I mentioned that there were . . . so the way these funds work is they go around in their fundraising activities and solicit interest from prospective investors to provide a commitment to invest in the fund. The fund then goes out and ident ifies …
Mr. Scott Pearman Sorry. Honourable Minister, I do not think you actually answered the question I posed. The question is whether the $26 million figure was the “X” you just described— i.e., the government’s respo nsibility —or whether it was the total amount in the fund. Thank you. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: What …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you very much, Honour able Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, would you like to put your third question now? You are muted. We cannot hear you. You have got to unmute yourself. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I am unmuted.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. We can hear you now. QUESTION 3: BERMUDA INFRASTRUCTURE FUND/TOTAL LIABILITY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Will the Honourable Mini ster please inform this Honourable House the total li ability and the amount paid in management fees by the Government and the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund to the fund manager …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dicki nson: The total liability, Mr. Speaker, is $3 million, and the amount paid in management fees is $500,000 for each of the following years: 2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21 for a total of $2 million to date.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No. That is it, thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to put your supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, supplementary. You just identified the annual payments over a period of the four years at $500,000 a year. Will that amount change in future years?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Not that I am aware of, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No further supplementaries?
Mr. Scott Pearman No further supplementary from me. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That is the close of the written questions from the Opposition Leader to the Minister of Finance. The next written question this morning is from the Opposition Leader to the Premier. Opposition Leader. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION /BUSINESSES RECEIVING GRANTS OR LOANS Hon. N. H. Cole …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speak er, in response to the Opposition Leader’s question, total funding deployed through all various COVID -19 funding support projects thus far is $3,789,497.75, with 225 business applic ations being approved. As of May the 31st, 2021, the BEDC has approved 160 business …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Can the Premi er provide details on the number of pending applications and the number of outstanding applications that have yet to be addressed? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, as per Standing Orders, that information is not with me. So …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Opposition Leader, that was not originally what he was expecting, so he did not have that infor-mation. The Premier has indicated he will provide it at a later date. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. I will accept that.
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to do your second question now? QUESTION 2: BERMUDA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION/REQUIREMENTS FOR LOANS OR GRANTS Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House what is r equired to apply for the grants or loans from BEDC, and if this process …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. In regard to the first part of the question, the information is in the public domain. It is there where anyone can see what is required by going to BEDC’s website. The impact of this programme on busi nesses …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. Question 3.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3: BERMUDA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION/ TOTAL AMOUNT BUDGETED Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Will the Ho nourable Mini ster please inform this Honourable House the total amount budgeted for the economic support from i nception of the program me; and is there any intention to increase the budgeted …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplemental.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: So the $12 million was granted. Is that the budgeted amount and granted amount, or is i t just the budgeted amount? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have indicated in my statement, and of course as also, I think, …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, I think I am asking the question unclearly. Is the granted amount the budgeted amount? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Is the granted amount the budgeted amount? Is that what you are asking? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker And the Premier’s response is yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: He said yes? Okay. Thank you very much. That is it for me.
The Speaker The Speaker No supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, that brings us to a close of that second written series of questions. The third written question is from MP Jackson to Minister Burch. However, the response was not for an oral respo nse, but for a written response. And I believe that the Minister has supplied …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Will the Honourable Mini ster please provide this Honourable House a written list of all of the contractors engaged in Bermudiana Beach Resort redevelopment, renovation, furnis hing and maintenance of the property?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker, that is correct. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. We will now move on to the questions from the Statements given this morning. And each of the Ministers has a question that has been i ndicated by Members. And we are going to start with the Minister of Education. And Minister of Education, you have a question from …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. And thank you, Minister of Education for this most generous opportunity for those who are studying to become certified in teaching. And I believe that it will be a wonderful way to help to evolve the profession in Bermuda. Bermuda House of Assembly My …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Do you have a supplementary or another question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. I just have one quick supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Minister, do you have a percentage or a number of teachers who f all under the exemption right now? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Currently I believe we have around 12. I have asked the Exemption Committee to forward me the complete list of who has been exempted over the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Further supplementary or new question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson That is it. I do not have any further questions for the Minister. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Jackson. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, MP Jackson.
The Speaker The Speaker The next question this morning is from MP Dunkley for the Minister of Transport. MP Dunkley, would you like to put your question? And I am going to be departing from here probably during this series of questions. QUESTION 1: SATA AZORES AIRLINES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence S cott: Yes. It is a series of weekly charter flights. So you will see one flight every Sunday between [those dates].
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary question to the Honourable Minister: Will the flight be direct from the Azores to Bermuda and direct back from Bermuda to the Azores?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: At risk of being pedantic, it will be “nonstop,” not direct. So it is a nonstop flight between Bermuda and the Azores. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: So for those who are not that familiar with the airline industry, can the Minister 1492 4 June 2021 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And, MP Dunkley, before you put your supplementary, I am going to turn the chair over to MP Swan. MP Swan, you have the Chair. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have your volume on? We see you, but we do not hear you, MP Swan. I am just tes ting your volume before I depart.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. We are good. We hear you now. [Feedback ]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Someone’s microphone is i nterfering. [Feedback ]
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on. Let me just try and get a little clarification here. The microphone, somebody’s m icrophone was breaking up. I am not sure if that m icrophone was the microphone that was MP Swan’s microphone or someone else’s microphone. Some H on. Members: I believe it was MP Swan’s …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Try taking off your earphones.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Foggo, MP Foggo. MP Foggo.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You are a member of the Panel of Chairs. Are you in a position where you can have a better control with your volume than MP Swan?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes. At this point in time, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Could you take over? I will send you the list of persons who have indicated that they have questions that are remaining. Okay?
The Speaker The Speaker I will send it to you on the chat.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan, let MP Foggo take control of the Chair then. Okay? MP Foggo, MP Dunkley is putting a second question to the Minister. And we can go from there. And I will send you in the chat the other questions. Okay?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Okay. [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Acting Speaker, in the C hair]
Mr. Scott Pearman Mada m Speaker.
Mr. Scott Pearman Before Mr. Dunkley, MP, puts his second question, I have a supplementary on his first question, please.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I am not sure who is speaking?
Mr. Scott Pearman It is MP Pearman speaki ng.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman MP Dunkley put a question to the Honourable Minister of Tourism. And that question has been answered. I have a supplementary to that question before MP Dunkley moves on with his next question.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. So MP Dunkley, will you yield for the supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Thank you, Madam. Honourable Minister, you were asked by MP Dunkley about the num ber of planes between June Bermuda House of Assembly and September, and then that devolved into a discussion about nonstop and direct flights. So just for the benefit of the listening public, who may …
Mr. Scott Pearman So that is a nonstop flight, in effect? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Correct. It is nonstop.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am sorry. You Statement had said it is a direct route. But that is your answer, is it? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes. I just wanted to make sure that this was clear.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful. I am grateful for the answer. Madam Acting Speaker, I have a second supplementary. Thank you. MP Dunkley had asked you about the number of flights between now and September 2021. And I am not sure we actually got the answer to that question. But how many …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful to the Honourable Minister for his response. Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, your question. QUESTION 2: SATA AZORES AIRLINES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Madam Acting Speaker, yes. My question to the Honourable Minister: What type of plane will be used on this weekly Sunday service? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: It will be an Airbus 321 100 or an Airbus 321 …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. I am still awaiting the list of persons from the Speaker. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I have a question, Madam Acting Speaker, to the Min ister of Works.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. I am just checking first if there are any other persons who put forth questions for the Minister of Transport. There being none, we shall move to the Mini ster of Works. Opposition Leader, please put your question forward. QUESTION 1: RESCINDING OF THE APPROVAL FOR THE PURCHASE OF …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Acting Speaker, I have no clue. I do not have that information before me, but I can undert ake to get it.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Colonel. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I have a supplementary.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. All right. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Madam Acting Speaker, based on my understanding and my research, it appears that $5.3 million have been invested in the pr oject. Can the Minister provide details on how he i ntends to protect Government’s interest, given the amounts invested in …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch All right . I have no knowledge of the five- point -whatever million dollars the Opposition Leader mentions. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Five-point -three.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The building is not owned by us. I expect that there will be some discussions going f orward based on this decision. And so we will protect the Government’s interest as best we can. 1494 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker A supplemental question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The second, the second.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Go ahead. QUESTION 2: RESCINDING OF THE APPROVAL FOR THE PURCHASE OF SANDYS 360 Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Should you find that a pproximately $5 million has been committed and i nvested in Sandys 360, will you plan to recover some of these funds, given that the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I think that decision has already been made. The state of the building is in full disrepair and will require si gnificant amounts of additional funding to bring it back into service or to demolish it. That is a matter for the trustees. And we will stand ready to have …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Is this another . . . we do not have three supplemental questions. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Just a comm ent, just a comment.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Right. QUESTION 3: RESCINDING OF THE APPROVAL FOR THE PURCHASE OF SANDYS 360 Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: So in essence, we are g oing to write off $5.3 [million] invested to date by the various governments. The Actin g Speaker: Thank you.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I am not prepared to say that. I am saying that it appears likely. And the fat lady has not sung on this story yet. We have taken another of step in this journey, but that does not mean that we are not s till at the table. Hon. N. …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Was that your third question? That was your third question. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I am finished; thank you.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Are there any other Me mbers who put questions forward to the Minister of Public Works? There being no other Members, are there any Members who put forward questions for other Mini sters? I still do not have the list of names. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I would like …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Did you indicate you had questions with the Speaker? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: That is correct. Yes, I did.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. Mem ber Dunkley, you may put your question forward to the Minister of N ational Security. QUESTION 1: TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD (TOOB) REPORT 2020 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. Minister of National Security, thank you for the two Statements today. In regard to the Treatment of Offenders …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMEN TARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I would appreciate your getting back to me because you would not have the information. But a supplementary, or the second sup-plementary was that there is $800,000 put towards the budget for prison refurbishment. There was $800,000 put last …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD (TOOB) REPORT 2020 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: In light of the scope or the size of the facility, and the Minister has said there will be 40 doors, is the $800,000 solely to replace the doors? Or are there other capital works that …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Is this a second question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, a suppl ementary.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I thought you already gave two supplemental questions. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, I thought just one. But it can be a second question if you wish. The Acting Speaker: Second question. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Surely. The answer to that question would be, if there is additional funding left, Member, we will use it to do whatever capital improvement and infrastructure improvement we can, that we can do. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Okay. I look forward to further updates from …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Third question. Give your third question. QUESTION 3: TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD (TOOB) REPORT 2020 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: On page 2 again, the Mi nister refers to the adjudications. And the Minister r efers to a 5 per cent increase in mobile phone related adjudications from 2019 and also, …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Madam Acting Speaker, what we have seen, Member, is that COVID -19 has presented challenges not just for us who are even not incarcerated at this time, but even for t he inmates. And there has been a lot of tension during this period. So the …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: You currently have a population that is very young and have in some cases life sen-tences. And so there is some tension there. It could be also gang- related, Member. COVID -19 did not help us in terms of ––there were some restrictions put in place …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you. Hon. Michael H . Dunkley: My final supplementary, Madam Acting Speaker. My final supplementary. Hon. Renee Ming: Surely.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker That was your first suppl emental? I thought that was your second. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: That was my third question. Yes. Sup plementary to the Minister, final su pplementary. Minister, do you believe that the long- term position of an acting commissioner, where there is no set leadership in …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, can you make your question more specific so the Minister can answer you? I think that is what her concern is. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Okay. Let me rephrase it this way: Does the Honourable Minister believe that an acting commissioner is having an impact on some of …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: I do not believe that it is having any effect, though it sounds like what you are hinting at in that question would be negative effect. Bu t I would like to see the role become formalised.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members with questions or supplementary questions for the Minister? There being no other Members —
Mr. Scott Pearman Madam Acting Speaker, I do not have a supplemental; I have questions that I sent to you in the chat.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. Fine.
Mr. Scott Pearman [This is] MP Pearman.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Were these questions also sent to the Speaker?
Mr. Scott Pearman No. I sent them directly to your chat.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, fine. Go ahead and ask your question.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, my questions are on your Parole Board Report 2020 Statement. The first question is on the second page of that Statement where you talk about the 43 inmates who chose to decline parole. Hon. Renee Ming: Yes. QUESTION 1: THE PAROLE BOARD REPORT 2020
Mr. Scott Pearman My first question is this: In this next par agraph below, you mentioned that the purpose of parole, and you say, “Parole provides inmates with an opportunity for a supported re- entry into soci ety. With tools to assist in transition back into the community, former inmates are less likely …
Mr. Scott Pearman It is your Parole Board Report Statement. It is the second page in the third par aBermuda House of Assembly graph down. And you are talking about what parole provides to the inmates, in the third paragraph. Hon. Renee Ming: Okay. Yes, and what was your question? [Crosstalk]
Mr. Scott Pearman So you are talking about parole as an opportunity to re- enter the society in a suppor ted way with tools to assist. Hon. Renee Ming: Yes.
Mr. Scott Pearman And you say former inmates are less likely to reoffend if they are on parole. And I am just wondering. It is the Government’s and the soci ety’s intention here to encourage parole; is that right? Parole is a positive mechanism to allow re- entry with support? Hon. Renee Ming: …
Mr. Scott Pearman I see. Supplementary, Madam Acting Speaker?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, you may.
Mr. Scott Pearman First supplementary. Thank you.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman So where, Honourable Minister, you say above in that Statement that 43 inmates have chosen to decline parole, to stay incarcerated b ecause they would prefer an early release date. Should that be a matter of concern that they would rather wait and come out without the parole mechanism? Or …
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary, Acting Chair?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, you may. That is your second.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, to the answer you just gave, I mean, is that a concern that someone is effectively choosing to get outside of the parole mechanism when they have an early release date? Is that an issue of concern? Hon. Renee Ming: I do not know that I …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Acting Speaker, if I may move my second question?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, you may. QUESTION 2: THE PAROLE BOARD REPORT 2020
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, my second question is still on the same Statement, on the Parole Board R eport, but it is on the next page on the top. And you are talking about parole again here, and you are talking about the two elementary requirements for parole be-ing appropriate …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Supplementary, Acting Speaker. [Pause]
Mr. Scott Pearman Acting Speaker, you are on mute.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Go ahead, Member. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Supplementary. Honourable Minister, you identify then that there are seven foreign nationals who are incarcer1498 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly ated. And I am wondering what happens to them on their release back into society? If they are foreign nationals, would they then …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful. Are any of the seven foreign nationals whom you have identified in your Statement likely to be released in the immediate future or the near future? Hon. Renee Ming: I cannot confirm that information.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Honourable Minister, and thank you, Acting Speaker. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker On my chat I saw no other questions being advanc ed. I will go double- check to make certain that that is still the case. And I believe it is the case. And if there is no one with a supplemental and no further questions, that ends the Question Per …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker So, Members, are there any Members wishing to give congratulations and/or ob ituary comments?
Mr. Dennis Lister III Yes, Madam Acting Speaker, I do.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Is that MP Dennis Lister, III?
Mr. Denni s Lister III Yes, it is. Can you still hear me?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. You have three minutes.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. Madam Acting Speaker, I would just like to start off first by sending condolences to the family of Mr. Gregory Young of Warwickshire Drive, a constit uent of mine. Also I would like to send condolences to the family of the young Ms. Amber Bridges, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Can I also be associated, ma’am?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, please.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Also, Madam Acting Speaker, also very sadly was recently I have had two young people my age who passed whom I felt very dearly [about], Mr. Judah Quallo from Somerset, a friend of mine who passed recently; and also Ms. Renee Bean, also a friend of mine who passed. So …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Tyrrell, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good morning, all. Madam Acting Speaker, since the last time we met, two members of my constituency celebrated birthdays. And because I think it is better to give roses while people are still alive, I would ask that the House send congratulations to, in the first instance, Dorothy Lattimore of …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Any other Members with congratulations or obituary comments? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. I would like to associate myself with the comments made in regard to Amber Bridges. You all know that she was a fellow equestrian, a young one at that. The young person had a passion for equestrian …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I would like to be associ ated with those remarks. Any other Member offering obits or congrats? MP Famous, I see you. Are you trying to chime in? [No audible response]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Any other Members?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay, go. You have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning. Good morning to colleagues, and good morning to the people of Bermuda. I firstly want to give condolences to my mother and her family on the loss of her brother, Moleto Turnbull of the Virgin Islands who passed away yesterday morning. He was a master mason. He built …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Member Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. Colleagues, I would also like to be associated with the congrat ulations to Nurse of the Year, Nurse Simmons. Obviously, it is fantastic to recognise people in our health care industry. And I think over the past year, through COVID -19, many …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You are welcome. I believe I saw Honourable Member Vance Campbell. Vance Campbell, do you have comments you wish to make? It is 11:33. You have three minutes.
Mr. Vance Campbell Yes, I do. Thank you very much, Madam Acting Speaker. I would like to associate myself with the co ndolences issued by MP Famous and also the condolences issued by MP Dunkley to the family of the late Louise Virginia Daniels. She actually lived in my constituency. But she was …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you. 1500 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Any other members with congrats or obits to air your comments? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you. I would like to associate myself with the comments from MP Cam pbell on Louise Daniels, as Sundown is a brother of mine. Louise Daniels and my grandmother were very good friends. And —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Can I just pause you for one second? Somebody has a radio or a TV on in the background. Please mute the microphone. Thank you. Sorry, Minister. You may continue. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you. Ms. Louise Daniels and my grandmother were very good friends. And I know …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes, Mr. Dep uty Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Madam Acting Speaker. I would like to associate myself with the r emarks for Ms. Louise Smith- Daniels. Ms. SmithDaniels is from Frog Alley, Somersall Road, a sister of Carlton Smith, a former candidate for the Progressive Labour …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Are there any other Members wishing to give condolences or congratulatory remarks?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Madam Acting Speaker. MP Pearman.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Madam Acting Speaker. I would just like to remark on the passing as reported —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, can you turn on your camera, please? For some reason I cannot see you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Of course. Of course, Madam Acting Speaker. Can you see me now?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Now I can, yes.
Mr. Scott Pearman I can see me on the screen; hopefully you can see me, Madam Acting Speaker. I would just like to take this opportunity to o bserve the passing as was report ed in the paper this week of the Supreme Court Manager of many, many years, Joann Lynch, who has …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Member, can you round up your comments?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Ms. Acting Speaker, to those judicial tributes let me add my own very brief remarks. She had an encyclopaedic knowledge of the court and court pr ocedure. She walk ed an extra mile to help court users, lawyers and members of the public. Sixty -eight years old seems so …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You are welcome, Member. Any other Members wishing to speak? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Minister Furbert, is that you? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, Madam Acting Speaker. How are you?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Very fine. Good morning. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, and good mor ning, colleagues. Madam Acting Speaker, I would like to also be associated with the condolences for Ms. Talbot of Harris Bay , sending condolences to the family and our very own Minister, Diallo Rabain, as well as condolences …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You are welcome, Member. Any oth er Members with congrats or obituary remarks? [Inaudible interjection]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Member Swan. I must tell you that your microphone is still quite muffled. But you can give it a try . [Inaudible interjections ]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I can hear you, but it is still muffled. [Inaudible interjections ]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker It is just a little better. I do not see you any longer. [Inaudible interjections ]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. Okay. Okay, Member Swan. We hear you, but it is still very much muffled. Is that it? [Inaudible interjections ] 1502 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Acting Speaker: Any other Member?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Madam Acting Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I just want to take a moment to congratulate all of the runners in the recent 24th of May, or Berm uda Day, holiday. It was a wonderful show. It was so impressive that the organisers of the race were able to adhere to the strict restrictions that …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members wishing to speak? Any other Members wishing to speak? Before I hand t he floor back over to the Dep uty Speaker, I wish to weigh in on the congrats and/or obituary remarks. I would like to be associated with the condolences …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member May I be associated with that, please?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I would like to associate the Deputy Leader. She was the matriarch in that family — Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: And the Opposition Leader.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker The Opposition Leader. I would like to associate the Opposition Leader with those r emarks. Last but not least, I would like to offer congratulatory remarks for Mr. Calvin Smith, who in 2016 retired from the police service only to be called back in immediately. He is retiring again. He …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks May I be associated, Madam Acting Speaker?
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I would like to associate Member Weeks with these remarks.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Myself, MP Richardson, Jarion Richardson.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker And Jarion Richardson.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell And Tyrrell, Tyrrell. [Laughter]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker MP Tyrrell. I am going to associate the House because his career was so outstanding that I think it deserves association from the House itself. He served in various capacities. He received 15 Commissioner’s commendations, Long Service Awards, numerous letters of good works, sports cit ations —you name it, he …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker There being none, we move on. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Acting Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Acting Speaker The Speaker None. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Acting Speaker The Speaker There are three Government Bills. Ministers, we are on Introduction of Bills. FIRST READINGS NATIONAL PENSION SCHEME (OCCUPATIONAL PENSIONS) AMENDMENT ACT 2021 ECONOMIC SUBSTANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Acting Speaker, I am introducing the following Bills for their first readings so that they may be placed …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister Dickinson. We should have one more introduction of a Bill by Minister Wilson. FIRST READING PUBLIC HEALTH AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2021 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, Madam Acting Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister of Health. I believe that covers Introduction of Bills. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Acting Speaker The Speaker It is my understanding that the Motions that we will be hearing today, the order has been changed. And so I think we will be hearing the Motion that is going to be led by Minister Roban. Minister, is that correct? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Thank you, Madam Ac …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Right. Just pause there for a second, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Foggo, I am back if you would like for me to take over.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Okay. Yes. [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good. I thank you for chairing during that period.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, I was able to hear some of it. I want to acknowledge that MP Foggo, having stepped in at the last minute as a pinch- hitter, did an extremely good job. Thank you for t hat, MP.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, I walked in as you were explaining that you wish to do your matter ahead of the Minister of Finance. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker And yes, that was acknowled ged to my office beforehand, and I had agreed that we would do it. However, we still have to put it to the House floor for the indulgence of the House. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker And I would like at this moment just to seek the indulgence of the House as to whether we can proceed by allowing the Deputy Premier to move his motion before we move the motion of the Minister of Finance. Are there any objections to that?
The Speaker The Speaker No objections? Good. 1504 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Deputy Premier, you can move your motion as the first Order of Business for today. MOTION BERMUDA PLAN 2018 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Members of …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections. Continue, Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that in accordance with sections 10 and 11 of the Development and Planning Act 1974, that this Honourable House consider and approve the Bermuda Plan 2018. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead, Minister. Sorry. Someone just came into the office briefly. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. I was n ot sure if you asked me to pause. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Just continue. B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, the tribunal pr ovided additional remarks for my consideration. Of particular note, the tribunal recommended that a new coastal study for Bermuda should be undertaken. It was specifically noted that there is continuing deve lopment pressure upon …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Ric hardson. The Spe aker: MP Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sorry. I am just going to get my video started, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we see you.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Perfect. And I would like to begin my remarks by thanking the Honourable Minister for bringing this before the House, but most especially his offer of having the technical officers and leadership team of the D epartment of Planning brief us on the activities of the Bermuda Plan, the workup …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. It is 30 minutes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Great. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Actually, I am sorry. You are the first speaker from the Opposition, so you have 60 minutes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Both lead speakers from either side have 60 minutes, and all other speakers have 30 minutes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the clarific ation.
The Speaker The Speaker You are welcome.
Mr. Jarion Richardson I wanted to draw everyone’s attention, the public’s attention most especially, to the volume of work that has gone into this process, which was striking. As a new politician I am often under-whelmed by the quality of information that gets to the House of Assembly. And in this case that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? I do note that it is now 12:25. At 12:30 we would break for lunch. With the indulgence of the House, we can let someone speak for five minutes, or we can break …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker . . . or good afternoon. If I start now, would I be able to continue after lunch?
The Speaker The Speaker We could break now. Then you can start fresh right at lunch.
Mr. Christopher Famous Okay. I would like to be the first batter up. The Speaker: Okay. With that said, I will acknowledge MP Famous at two o’clock. And Members, we will now call on the Deputy Premier, or Premier, to adjourn us for lunch. [ Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Does my video work, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker W e can sort your video out at two o’clock w hen you c ome. I h ave a lready acknowledged that you will be the first speaker at two o’clock.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, would you like to move us to lunch? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. With the indulgence of the House, I move that we adjourn for lunch and return at 2:00 pm.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Members, the House now stands adjourned for lunch until 2:00 pm. Proceedings suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] MOTION BERMUDA PLAN 2018 [ Continuation of debate thereon]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. It is 2:00 pm. The House is now in session after our lunch break. Members, for the benefit of the listening aud ience, we are on the first Order of business for today, which is the motion by the Minister for Home Affairs, the Deputy Premier. And …
Mr. Christopher Famous Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Can you hear me clearly?
The Speaker The Speaker I hear you. You could be a little louder, but we hear you. B ermuda House of Assembly Mr. Christopher Famous: Can you hear me clearly, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, continue on.
Mr. Christopher Famous Sorry, technology challenges. Mr . Speaker, today is a great day for my fam ily and I will speak about that on the motion to adjourn. It is also a great day for Bermuda because the Ber-muda Plan 2018 was submitted by the Honourable Deputy Prem ier of Bermuda Walter …
The Speaker The Speaker I just lost you. I was seeing you, but we just lost you off the screen.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, I do not know what is going on, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. We see you now.
Mr. Christopher Famous All right. So, Mr. Speaker, in this Bermuda Plan 2018, the Deputy Premier and his team (who were mentioned earlier, and I thank them all for their work) have put a lot of emphasis on the environment. They have put a lot of emphasis on not just a blanket plan …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, it is Susan Jackson, I would like to say a few words.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson, I hear you faintly, if you can just tune in a little louder it would be good.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson All right. I will see what I can do here. So, I will just speak up. Thank you and good afternoon everyone and the Members of the Parliament as well as the listening audience. The Bermuda Plan 2018 is, in my opinion, our opportunity to really strike a balance. There …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you know the environment is a passion of mine.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: In fact, just last w eekend I went over to the Bermudiana Beach Club and just took a walk along the beach. I had my grandson, my daughter and her husband. And, again, I was amazed with the coastal erosion that has transpired over …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Opposition Leader. Before I call on any other Members to make a contribution, I just want to call on the Minister just to clarify. As you know, I was in between the Chair coming back when he started this morning, and the wor ding of the motion …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Because on the Order Paper it just says that we “take note,” it does not say “support.” So, the amendment is asking for the support of the House rather than just taking note. So, Members, the indulgence now is that you accept the motion as it is stated now, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your indulgence. Thank you, Minister. 1516 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: No problem, Mr. Speaker. No problem.
The Speaker The Speaker The Opposition Leader just completed his presentation. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? There is no other Member? Minister, it looks like we were at the end of it. Okay, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you for the contributions made on this measure. Just to restate it, THAT this Honourable House supports the Bermuda Plan 2018, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I think it has been made cry stal clear by, certainly, my submissions earlier today and by what has been articulated by a number of Members, that this is a very important Plan. It has a certain historical significance in that it is going to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly Minister, the question has to be put now as to . . . because the Motion was changed asking that the House approve the Plan. So, the question is now put, Does the House approve the Bermuda Plan 2018? Hon. Walter H. Roban: …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any Member . . . any objections to that? There are none. It has been approved. [Motion carried: The Honourable House supports the Bermuda Plan 2018.] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Members of the House, for your support.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Ho nourable Members for your contributions. We will now move on to the second Order on the Order Paper for today, which is a motion by the Minister of Finance. A nd similar to the motion that was done earlier, the Minister has an amendment …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to the amendment to this as it is now worded? There are no objections? [Motion carried: Motion amended from a “motion to take note” to a “ motion o f support.”]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, now put the motion. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now take under consideration the following motion, notice of which was given on the 26th of March 2021: THAT this Honourable House supports Bermuda’s Economic Recovery Plan, Summary Report.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Continue, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to provide opening remarks on the discussion in this Honourable House of the Government’s Economic Recovery Plan to take Bermuda beyond the pandemic. Much has been said and we have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister, for your opening remarks. Are there any other Members who would like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Any Honourable Member? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Is it Minister Furbert? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, I will if the Opposition does not speak.
The Speaker The Speaker MP— Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I will yield to the Mi nister.
The Speaker The Speaker I am sorry, Opposition Leader? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I will yield to the Minister, I will speak after the Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister Furbert, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I think it is traditional in these debates that we would have an Opposition speaker 1522 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly follow the main speaker. Suddenly, the Opposition Leader wants to—
The Speaker The Speaker Well, the Opposition Leader has yiel ded. What will happen is that th e Opposition Leader, as the first speaker for the Opposition, will still have a lengthier time than the Minister who is speaking now. But he has yielded and the Minister has the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: …
The Speaker The Speaker It is all right. It is not declared that it has to be in that order. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Understood, Mr. Speaker. [INAUDIBLE ]
The Speaker The Speaker The fir st speaker of either side will get the 60 minutes; all other speakers of either side will get 30 minutes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: [INAUDIBLE], Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister Furbert. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have no problem speaking before the Opposition because it is clear that we have to lay out our plan and our vision. Mr. Speaker, we speak to an economic plan, it means that the Progressive Labour Party …
The Speaker The Speaker Just to let you be aware, you have two minutes left. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Oh my gracious, Mr. Speaker!
The Speaker The Speaker You started at 3:37 and it is now 4:05. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Two minutes?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Wow! So vertical farming right now, local farmers produce only 20 [per cent] to 25 per cent of leafy greens. The ver tical farming hopes to pick up the balance of that. Which would lower food costs, self - efficiency, due diligence, blah, blah, blah. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have your 60 minutes, if you wish. You have your time now. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As was said by the Minister of Finance, Bermuda, like many other countries around the world, was struck by the catastrophic impact of COVID -19 back …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Opposition Leader. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Hayward. Minister Hayward, how are you, sir? You have got your 30 minutes on the clock. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, we are here to discuss an important topic and that is Bermuda’s Ec onomic Recovery Plan. I am thankful for you allowing me the time to have intervention in this debate today. You would note that the plan has two distinct features. One …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I would like to make a contribution if that is okay with you.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. It sounds like Minister Scott. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Scott, you have your 30 minutes. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Seeing as though you are from Somerset, God’s country —
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, no dispute there. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I believe that you probably know the Bible better than anyone else I know.
The Speaker The Speaker Well— Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Well, maybe not. Maybe the Deputy Speaker, who may or may not have an autographed copy — [Laughter] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: But I digress. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: But, Mr. Speaker, for those who may not be as familiar with the Good Book as us, Genesis chapter 1 speaks to the seven days in which everything was created amongst the heavens and earth. Well, Mr. Speaker, I do not actually want to speak …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Well said!
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister Scott. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? No other Member? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr . Speaker, I will speak.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, Deputy Premier, you have the floor. You have your 30 minutes. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am happy to have given space so a Member of the Opposition could contribute to this very i mportant debate, but as that is not the case I will myself give my submission. Bermuda House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, Minister. You can read it. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Right now, in 2019, the est imated value of the global space industry was $300 - plus million [sic]. And that is still the case now in that the estimated revenue generation in the global space industry . …
The Speaker The Speaker It is now 6:09 and you finish at 6:15. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay, I have a little more time to talk. Well, that’s good. I am not going to say I am going to use it all. But Mr. Speaker, I am excited about the opportunities that within my …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would like to say a few words.
The Speaker The Speaker That sounds like MP Jackson. MP Jackson, you have your 30 minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you very much. Before I start my few words, I do want to send out my appreciation and thanks once again to all of the essential workers who worked selflessly to keep our country safe and to keep us healthy during this critical time and I always want them …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, you have one minute left on the clock.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay. Have a more entrepreneurial spirit around thing s that we already do well and pick up on some of the low -hanging fruit that is there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Jackson. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? Any other Member? [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker It sounds like someone is trying to get our attention. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley, is that you? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, it is me, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 30 minutes, sir. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I was waiting for one of the Government Members to speak. But if they are not willing to speak on the Economic Plan, I certainly was not going to let this debate collapse at this point in time, that is …
The Speaker The Speaker No, we do not want it to collapse. So go ahead and make your contribution. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It might be an opportune time to speak, Mr. Speaker, because Bermuda is about to kick off at seven o’clock in the match against Suriname, so I can speak now and …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Just a reminder to turn your camera on. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: My camera is coming on now. The signal should be coming through to you any time soon, Mr. Speaker. So if I am speaking on Bermuda’s scores , please excuse my cheer, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, getting …
Mr. Wayne Caines Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Go ahead. I am not the Speaker, Honourable Member, but carry on. I am happy for that.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, point of order. We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, the Government did not oppose the America’s Cup. The Government opposed the spending and the way that the OBA went about the process. So we were not against the Amer ica’s Cup. T here were some financial things that were taking place, the expenses. And the teachers and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, thanks for that. But clearly the spending on the America’s Cup, with the report that was done after, it clearly showed that it was very successful for Bermuda—so success-ful—
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The current Government, Mr. Speaker —
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmon s Yes, Mr. Speaker. I question whether it could be deemed a success when only 16 per cent of the financial beneficiaries were described as Black or of mixed origin. That is the problem at its core of the America’s Cup above everything else, the failure t o equally and equitably …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I am happy to take a valid point of order, but those types of com-ments can come up when those Members who have not spoken interject. I think it is just wasting my time, Mr. Speaker. But the America’s Cup was a …
The Speaker The Speaker MP, you have a minute left. One m inute left. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. Just checking, thank you. So, Mr. Speaker, in the final minute that I have I will say that people cannot recover on hope. People certainly cannot recover on dreams. People require opportunity. And, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I am trying to get my video going. Mr. Speaker, can you see me just yet?
The Speaker The Speaker No, we do not see you yet. We hear you here. Hon. Zane J. S. D e Silva: I hope the clock does not start until the . . . I am using—
The Speaker The Speaker Now we see you, and now you have your 30 minutes. There you go. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am happy to make a c ontribution tonight. And let me say that this Government along with the people …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, point of order. The Honourable Member should listen clos ely. I never said we cannot recover from. I never said those words, so the Honourable Member should listen more closely and get his facts right.
The Speaker The Speaker Just clarify. Just clarifying for him. That is the main thing. You are fine. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I thank you. 1550 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Go ahead. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You will know, Mr. Speaker. I …
The Speaker The Speaker Now, hold on just a minute. Hold on just a minute. Let me acknowledge your point of order. What is your point of order now? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I will get the Hansard when it is available because I proved him wrong before in …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. All right. You have made your point . Now we will let him continue on, and the Hansard will state the case when it is available. MP. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I will say this, Mr. Speaker. It is not too often I am wrong when it …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, let us stop going back and forth with each other, and let us get on with presenting your points, MP. You are losing most of your time on his points of order. So get to your point — [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Stay on the line and we will be okay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley : [INAUDIBLE] speaking for itself. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, maybe the Honourable Member will do a point of order on this and say that he did not say that he saw no hope …
The Speaker The Speaker Put your point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I said, Mr. Speaker, that people cannot recover on hope. People cannot recover on dreams. People require opportunities. Those were my exact words. So maybe the Member’s ink does not work in his pen, but that is what …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. As I said earlier, the Hansard will clarify everything. Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I mean, Mr. Speaker, think about it for a moment what the Honourable Member just said. Is it not the same thing? You see? But let me move on because he …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert. 1552 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert, you have your 30 minutes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Good evening, colleagues. I probably will not take all of my 30 minutes, but I did want to have the opportunity to speak to the Economic Recovery Plan that we do have. And, yes, I am …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Adams. How are you this evening, sir?
Mr. Jache Adams I am pretty good, sir. I am feeling good.
The Speaker The Speaker Good. You have your 30 minutes. 1554 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jache Adams: Mr. Speaker, I hope that you n oticed that, as the Minister of Sport and Premier said that cricket was about to start, in hopes of a good Cup Match …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, I see you are wearing your redand-blue, so it is good that you are representing the West End of the Island because I know your father wanted you to wear your red- and-blues.
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, you know I am Somerset through and through.
The Speaker The Speaker Very good. All right. I grew up nearby Somerset. I know who your father is. Okay. All right. [Laughter]
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, I am going to start by saying that I am a bit confused and disappointed. And I will tell you why. I am first confused. I am confused because there was an Honourable Member who spoke prev iously and questioned whether or not the Economic Recovery Plan considered …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. Adams. Are there any further speakers?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. That sounds like Famous from out there in northwest.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good afternoon, Mr. Deputy Spea ker. How are you?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Very well, sir. Continue. 1556 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Christopher Famous: Can you hear me well?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Very well, sir. You sound like a St. George’s fan. Continue.
Mr. Christopher Famous All right. My video may or may not cut out. But I just want to put some things in real quick. I heard the OBA criticising our Economic R ecovery Plan. But let us just go over the OBA’s ec onomic strategy. Give money to Aecon, check. Give money to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. Famous. Are there any further speakers? Any further speakers?
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Sounds like the Honour able Member Weeks.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have the floor, Mr. Weeks.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, Mr. Deputy. How are you tonight?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Very well indeed.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Okay, Mr. Deputy. I would like to start off my remarks by saying in the midst of this global pandemic we have leaders, strong leadership. Up until 15 months ago, Mr. Deputy Speaker, our Government was on a good track. They were doing what was right for our people, trying …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks But our Government was actually doing some good stuff before then. Mr. Deputy Speaker, since this pandemic has gripped us and globally gripped the world, we have needed strong and courageous leadership. We needed somebody to be innovative and able to think outside the box, actually being able to reset …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks And in order to get people to come here, to believe in our product, we have to put the people out there. We have to show our country to be safe, we have to show our country to be welcoming. And the natural beauty of ours is another good thing …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. Weeks. Are there any further speakers? Is that the Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am happy to speak.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very m uch, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am grateful to join this debate today. And certainly there have been a number of capable contr ibutions from Members on this side, certainly from not only our capable front bench, but also our …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, the Honourable Premier. Any further speakers? I see the Honourable Minister Colonel Burch. You have the floor.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Economic Recovery Plan highlights two areas for the Ministry of Public Works, they being i nfrastructure investment and the upgrade to the water and wastewater treatment facility. And they continue to increase the stock of affordable housing for the country. So, Mr. Deputy Speaker, …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. MP Pearman.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, Mr. Pearman, Honourable Member, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. D eputy Speaker. Good evening. So interesting, the Economic [Recovery] Plan for Bermuda. I do not envy the Minister of Finance, and I will say that right from the start. It is a tough job in a tough time. We are facing a triple whammy. We have …
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There is a point of order.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am surprised I am being point - of-ordered on that. I would have thought it was obv ious. But go ahead.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Deputy Speaker, the gentleman is saying that it is a mess. Without going into details, if you do a deep dive on what the money was spent on, the majori ty of money was spent on paying the workers of this Island. I do not equate that to a …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Well—
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful for that intervention. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, yes. Let us take the high road. 1564 4 June 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you. I was. I was, and I think I had just said, as I was being interrupted, that I do not envy the Minister of Finance …
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Mr. Scott Pearman —whether something is gross or net—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There is a point of order. Honourable Member Hayward. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Jason Hayward: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. It was a Wage Commission Report. I indicated that the Government had not made a decision or determination on how we are going to move forward. Let’s …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker All right.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank you to the Minister of Labour for that intervention. I asked the Minister of Labour whether the three numbers that had been proposed by the Commission (I accept they were proposed by the Commission, not by the Minister) were gross or net. And the …
Mr. Scott Pearman Oh, I appreciate that, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker —on the Minister’s behalf.
Mr. Scott Pearman But nonetheless, three numbers were put out there and it had not been decided if they were gross or net. Bu t, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I do not think it is an unfair observation for me to make. Peo-ple do different things in different ways. I am not crit icising …
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Mr. Scott Pearman I don’t know how much time I have left.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order. You have seven minutes left.
Mr. Scott Pearman Oh, another one? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Christopher Famous This gentleman keeps r eferring that this Government is sniping at international business. That is a total misleading of the truth. The Minister of Finance has worked in international bus iness all of his career, and he is most connected to financial business, even more than the previous Minister of …
Mr. Scott Pearman I did not say the Government was sniping at international business. I said, firstly, that we Bermudians need to stop the sniping if we are going to succeed. I said, secondly, and quite differently, that international business is our friend, that they create jobs, and I asked the question where …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have five minutes, Ho nourable Member.
Mr. Scott Pearman Okay. I will be less than that. Thank you, very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Let’s turn then again to solution- driven observations. It is not very sexy. It is not shiny and bright. It is not FinTech. And, by the way, I would like to say that the Opposition was …
Mr. Scott Pearman I’m up?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Let me say that I hope I may one day be able to support this plan if it works. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister Dickinson. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am here. Before I give some closing remarks, I just want it to be abundantly clear, because there has been a whole lot of talk about …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, two Friday ’s from today, correct. Thank you, Deputy Premier. Does any Member wish to speak to that?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker, I will not be long.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous I won’t even need 10.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. I will hold you to that. COVID -19— SAFELY REOPENING THE ECONOMY BY FOLLOWING THE RULES
Mr. Christopher Famous My video may kick out, but I am going to say something. Mr. Speaker, today is a very proud day for my father’s side of the family. Today the granddaughter of my Aunt, Dame Lois Browne- Evans, the first female Leader of the Opposition in the Commonwealth, was called to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Does any other Member wish to make a contrib ution?
Mr. Dennis Lister III Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Lister.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 2 0 minutes.
Mr. Dennis Lister III I will not use the full 20 minutes, Mr. Speaker, I am trying to keep it a short night t onight.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. ROAD SAFETY
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Good evening to the listening public and to my fellow colleagues. Mr. Speaker, sadly, this week Bermuda lost its fifth road traffic victim of the year. And while it is a lways a tragedy to lose a person of any age, it hits di fferent when …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker. The Speake r: Does any other Member wish to add—
The Speaker The Speaker Is that the gentleman from St. George’s?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I will start off by wishing you a happy birthday.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, sir.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Your son gave one of the digits away, and there are only nine others left.
The Speaker The Speaker I am still behind you, sir. How’s that?
Mr. Hu bert (Kim) E. Swan I think you might have caught me up on this one! Bermuda House of Assembly [Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan If I am ahead, I just hope I can stay ahead, that’s all.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. MURDERS IN BERMUDA, A NATIONAL EPIDEMIC
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Sw an Mr. Speaker, that note is the vein on which I come forward tonight. You and I, Mr. Speaker, go back to school days. We go back to Dalton E. Tucker, the greatest of all, with Elsie Bascome.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan When I speak of Dalton Tucker, respectfully, and Elsie Bascome, it evokes in me the most serious respect that I would have for anyone that would ever have walked God’s earth. And I say God’s earth because those ladies, and those who worked with them, groomed us in an exceptional …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Swan, you mention that we go back to earlier school days. I think in those earlier school days you wore a lot of red and blue, if I remember correctly.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker. But on the road to Damascus I ended up in St. George’s. And like Saul, I changed my name to Paul of St. George’s, Mr. Speaker. And I am asking us. And I am asking us to journey on that road to Damascus tonight, Mr. Speaker, as …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? No other Member? Thank you. MOTION BERMUDA’S ECONOMIC PLAN, SUMMARY REPORT [Questi on put on motion as amended]
The Speaker The Speaker Before we close, there’s a little bit of housekeeping. Minister of Finance, when we closed your m otion just now we should have clarified that the motion as it had been amended asked for the approval of the House, and that the House supports that motion. I just need to …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. So we will take it that the motion is [approved], [there is] support, and the [Bermuda’s] Ec onomic [Recovery] Plan [Summary Repor t] is a pproved. [Motion carried: The House supports Bermuda’s Ec onomic Plan, Summary Report.] CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECH
The Speaker The Speaker With that said, I am going to close the House. But before I close the House, MP Famous, you made reference t o . . . I was out of the Chair this morning during Congratulatory and Obituary Speec hes, but I would just like to be associated with the …
The Speaker The Speaker With that, the House stands adjourned until two weeks from today at 10:00 am. Thank you, Members. Have a good weekend. [At 10:31 pm the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 18 June 2021.]
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