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House of Assembly Session 2020/2021 226 speeches

March 17, 2021

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Session Summary

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This was a budget debate session where Minister Renee Ming presented the spending plans for the Ministry of National Security and its departments. The Ministry's overall budget decreased by $377,000 to just under $2 million, mainly due to reduced spending on consultants and travel. The Royal Bermuda Regiment officially took over maritime operations from police in February 2021, creating a new Coast Guard Unit with plans to hire additional personnel. The Police Service budget was set at $61.3 million with a reduction of 40 staff positions, while Customs received $16.1 million, down $1.1 million from the previous year.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 17, 2021
Session 2020/2021
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Speakers 13
Speeches 226

Key Topics

Ministry of National Security budget presentation for 2021/22 fiscal yearRoyal Bermuda Regiment operations and new Coast Guard Unit establishmentBermuda Police Service strategic plan and staffing changesCustoms Department budget and COVID-19 operational impactsGang Violence Reduction Team programs and community initiatives

Bills & Motions

Motion to resume Committee of Supply for consideration of budget estimates (approved)
Budget estimates for six departments presented: Ministry Headquarters (Head 83), Defence (Head 06), Police (Head 07), Customs (Head 12), Corrections (Head 25), and Fire Services (Head 45)
No bills were read or voted on - this was a budget presentation and debate session

Notable Moments

Minister highlighted the Regiment's COVID-19 response as the longest military operation since World War II, managing quarantine facilities for 452 people
Police successfully recovered significant criminal assets including $1.8 million through proceeds of crime legislation
Gang Violence Reduction Team achieved 100% participation in work readiness programs with six students gaining employment

Debate Transcript

226 speeches from 13 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. We are now about to start today’s session. And we will now have our morning prayer. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Ms. Beale. Members, the House is now officially open for this session. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 10 and 12 March 2021]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes of the 10th of March and the 12th of March have been circulated. Are there any amendments or adjustments, corrections that need to be made? There are none. [Minutes of 10 and 12 March 2021 confirmed]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes for the 15th of March have been deferred. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker Moving on, t here are no messages from the Governor. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no ne. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are no written questions and no Statements, so no questions this morning. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Renee Min g: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Minister Ming, you have your three minutes. Hon. Renee Ming: Surely. Mr. Speaker, I would like to send congratulations out to a young lady from St. George’s, Joanna Santiago. She recently was awar ded for her s ailing ambitions. I look forward to seeing her in years to come …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. And Ms. Tuckett is one of the young voices here in our Youth Parliament. 954 17 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? No other Member. We will move …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. However, Members, I am going to come back to you la ter in the day to seek the indulgence, because I understand there are some matters that should have been tabled today that, just because of a technical error, have not made it this morning. But once …
The Speaker The Speaker And as all know and for our listening audience, we are here to continue the debate on the annual Budget. Today is day five of that process. And as I have stated before, there are a total of 56 hours for the entire Budget process, eight hours per day. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now resume in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2021/22.
The Speaker The Speaker Are t here any objections? No objections. MP Foggo, would you like to take over as Chair?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. The House is in your hands.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Good morning. House in Committee at 10:06 am [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, in the Chair] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2021/22 [Continuation thereof]
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2021/22. We will be debating the Ministry of National Security. And the Heads to be debated are 83, 06, 07, 12, 25 and 45. I now call on …
The Chairman Chairman Proceed. HEAD 83 —MINISTRY OF NATIONAL SECURITY HEADQUARTERS Hon. Renee Ming: Madam Chairman, Honourable Members, I am pleased to present the current ac-counts estimate for the Minist ry of National Security Headquarters , Head 83, which can be found on pages B-262 to B -264 of the Estimates of Revenue …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, did you mean head 83? Hon. Renee Ming: I am sorry . . . Head 83.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. I thought you did. Hon. Renee Ming: My correction.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Members and the listening public, we are debating the Ministry of National Security. This is the Budget Debate. This is a four -hour debate, and it is scheduled to end after lunch at 3:36. B ermuda House of Assembly Minister, c ontinue. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you. Thank you, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Again for the listening public, we are currently debating the Ministry of National Security. The Mini ster is like ly to move to Head 07, which is on Police. Is that correct, Minister? Hon. Renee Ming: That is correct, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you may continue. HEAD 07 —BERMUDA POLICE SERVICE Hon. Renee Ming: The Bermuda Police Service, Head 7, can be found on pages B -269 to B -273 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure 2021/22. Executive summary Hon. Renee Ming: The Bermuda Police Service has completed a new strategic …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Point of order, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman What is your point of order? And who is speaking, please? Identify yourself. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Member from constituency 10.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Madam Chairman, I think the Honourable Minister said a budget of $61,000. I believe s he meant $61 million was the total. Just for clarification.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Member. Minister, continue. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you, Madam Chairman. BPS staffing for the financial year 2021/22 is 478, which can be found on page B-272, with the pr evious year being 518, a decrease of 40 people. The Bermuda Police Service has aligned its …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. We are continuing the debate. And soon to be debated will be H ead 12— Customs. And the Minister will resume. Minister. HEAD 12 —CUSTOMS Hon. Renee Ming: Customs Department, Head 12, found on pages B -274 through B -277 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, thank you. We are moving on to Head 25 —Department of Corrections. The Minister will take the floor on this. HEAD 25 —DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS Hon. Renee Ming: The Department of Corrections, Head 25, is found on pages B -294 through B -296 of the Estimates of Revenue and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. We are debat ing the Department of Corrections. When you are ready, Minister, you may conti nue. Hon. Renee Ming: Surely. I will start again. The Education Officer, along with personnel at the Berkeley Institute, continued a positive interactive programme between a gr oup of young men …
The Chairman Chairman Minister? We seem to have lost you. I have lost the Minister. Derek Lamb, can you confirm that she is still on, please? [Pause]
Mr. Derek Lamb (Parliament Information Officer) Yes, Madam Chairman. I have lost the Minister as well.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. I will try and reach out to her office to let her know that we have lost her. Members of the public, we will have a slight recess as we reconn ect with the Minister. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Members of the public, I think the Minister is back. Minister, you might want to repeat what you had started after you finished with the recidivism i nformation. Hon. Renee Ming: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Renee Ming: Madam Chairman, I looked up. I did not see anyone for a minute, though. So I am sorry about that.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. It is okay, Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Madam Chairman, despite the many challenges faced by the Department of Corrections, staff remain dedicated and seek ways to address them, including working with union represent atives and other stakeholders and partners in order to achieve our mission and mandate. Security breaches …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Minister, you may move on to Head 45. HEAD 45 —BERMUDA FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE Hon. Renee Ming: Bermuda Fire and Rescue Service, Head 45, can be found on pages B -281 through B-283 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure 2021/22. Madam Chairman, I am pleased to …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, given the time, and it is now 12:29, my suggestion is that we move for lunch unless your final comment is only about a minute long. Hon. Re nee Ming: We can move for lunch, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. May I have the Premier or another listening Minister move that we adjourn for lunch, please? Are any other Ministers on the call? Hon. Jason Hayward: Madam Chairman, I move that we adj ourn for lunch.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Hayward. We will adjourn for lunch, and we will resume the debate at 2:00 pm. Thank you. Proceedings suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Ms. Susan E. Jackson, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2021/22 MINISTRY OF NATIONAL …
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Honourable Members. Honourable Members, we are no w in Commi ttee of Supply for further consideration of the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2021/22, Heads 83, 06, 07, 12, 25 and 45 are now being debated. I call on the Minister in charge to …
The Chairman Chairman Are you muted, Minister? The Clerk: There she is. Hon. Renee Ming: Sorry. Madam Chairman, just prior to the lunchbreak I was just completing Head 45, which was the Fire Service. So, I will go and use my last few minutes to just complete that Head.
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed, Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you. Madam Chairman, I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Fire Chief and the members of the Bermuda Fire and Rescue Service for their con-tinued efforts on behalf of Bermuda. Madam Chairman, this closes my comments with regard to Head …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Is there anyone else that would like to speak to the Heads for National Security? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Madam Chairman. I would like to speak.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Member, please proceed. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman, and good afternoon. Minister, thank you for reading the present ation on National Security today. And I want to start off by thanking the staff within the Ministry, certainly, the Acting Permanent Secretary and all of the staff …
The Chairman Chairman All right. And we have until 3:36 pm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. So, Madam Chairman, this debate goes on for about another hour then. So, Madam Chairman, first [under] Police— Head 07, I want to thank the Commissioner and his team for the work that they do. I believe …
The Chairman Chairman Member — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Madam Chairman, you were going to say something?
The Chairman Chairman Member, can you just please try to reference the line item that you are referring to, please. Hon. Michael H . Dunkley: Thank you. I was referring to the Minister’s brief when she was talking about Confiscated Assets; and the total budget for the Police of $61.298 million. So, having …
The Chairman Chairman Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The point of order is the Honourable Member referred to the Minister’s brief when you asked about the line item. You cannot speak to the Minister’s brief, because when the Mini sters talk and present their brief, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Shadow Minister — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Madam Chairman, you seem to be—
The Chairman Chairman —referencing a line item so that we can follow. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —you seem to be buffering out a little bit, Madam Chairman. Yes, Madam Chairman, you seem to be buf fering out, but I caught what you said. Madam Chairman, I believe it is appropriate to refer to …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo One second, Member. It seems as though we have lost Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman No, I am right here. I am right her e. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I . . . I —
The Chairman Chairman I just thought that I would — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: She was just buffering, but she came back in and out.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Okay, sorry. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I got the gist. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman I am right here. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you. So, in regard to page B -272 Employee Numbers and Full -Time Equivalents, the Minister did give— Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Just one second, Mr. Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —an overview. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Madam …
The Chairman Chairman I am just having . . . my bandwidth was getting a little unstable — Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman —and so. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Understood. Okay. When you can, please do. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. I will continue on, Madam Chairman. So, in regard to page B -272 Employee Numbers, you can clearly see that the vast majority of the budget for the Bermuda Police …
The Chairman Chairman Mention the line item. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —getting to historically low levels. Employee Numbers right here on page B -272, Madam Chairman, Commissioner’s Office.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: So, as the BPS —
The Chairman Chairman Got it! Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you. As the BPS budget has been reduced over the past two years, the question to the Honourable Minister is: In light of the fact that 75 per cent of the Police budget goes towards salaries and wages, and the reduction in …
The Chairman Chairman —if you could just hold on. Minister? Hon. Renee Ming: —information? I am just trying to . . . can the Honourable Member please tell me what section of the Budget Expenditure he is referring to in terms of the cut that he just spoke to? I am sorry, the …
The Chairman Chairman You have about 20 minutes left, Member. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Performance Measures, the top line, I believe we should get rid of number 1(a) because it does not mean anything. If you take the total expenditure and divide it by the capacity, and that is …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Would anyone else like to speak to the Heads? We are in the Committee of Supply, and we are presently debating the Ministry of National Secur ity, Heads 83, 06, 07, 12, 25 and 45. Would any Member like to speak? Minister, would you like to respond …
The Chairman Chairman You are welcome. Hon. Renee Ming: And thank you to the Member for his questions as they relate to the Ministry of National Security. I understand his concern, but we are at this stage governing through a national pandemic and it is a difficult time. And it was a difficult …
The Chairman Chairman There is one minute left, Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Okay. The Travel costs was another question, I will try and get them done, Travel expenditure for the day has been over $2,000. This pertains to part of the course for overseas travel of a K-9 Handling Officer. The Officer travelled …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, it has, Minister. Would you like to move your Heads? Hon. Renee Ming: Surely. Madam Chair man, I move that Heads 83, 06, 07, 12, 25 and 45 be approved as presented.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 83, 06, 07, 12, 25 and 45 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of National Security, Heads 85, 06, 07, 12, 25 and 45 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Madam Chair , Honour able Member Ms. Jackson and thank you Minister Ming for your presentation. The next will be . . . Committee of Supply for further consideration of the E stimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2021/22 under Health Mini stry on Heads 21, …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Chairman, I am here today with great pleasure to present the budget for the Mi nistry of Health overall, starting with Head 21, the Mi nistry of Health Headquarters, found on pages B -155 through—
The Chairman Chairman Minister, may I break in for just one second? This is a four -hour debate. And it is scheduled to complete at 7:37 pm. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The budget brief for Head 21, which relates specifically to the Ministry of Health Headquarters, …
The Chairman Chairman Minister , what page are you talking from? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Chairman, initially it was found at page B -155. But you would see that we have gotten new budget pages, so it’s actually B -156.
The Chairman Chairman I do not have that. I was never given that. Hon. Ki m N. Wilson: It was initially B -155, but we got new budget pages and it is now B -156.
The Chairman Chairman I understand what you are saying, but I was never given any . . . nothing on that. Continue. I don’t know why they haven’t given it to us. But I don’t ha ve it.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is listed correctly in the Budget Book, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Oh, the Budget Book is correct. Okay.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, I’m following in the Budget Book, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Okay, thank you. Hon. Kim N. Wilson : Okay. Mr. Chairman, however, an additional $800,000 in funding was allocated for transformation Bermuda House of Assembly of Bermuda’s health care structure via the new Bermuda Health Plan. Manpower Hon. Kim N. Wilson: With respect to manpower, Mr. Chairman, the change in …
The Chairman Chairman I’m sorry. My figures . . . you know, you have the business unit, but the figures are not the same that I had in this book here. It’s not your fault; but we can’t hold this up. Continue. I am really sur prised that I had not been supplied …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. HEAD 22 —THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This can be found on pa ges B-161 through 172 of the Budget Book. It gives me great pleasure, Mr. Chairman, to present the budget for Head 22, the Department of Health, again found at …
The Chairman Chairman Minister [Wilson], before you go, let me just turn this over to the Honourable Member N eville Tyrrell who will be chairing for the next two hours. Mr. Tyrrell, thank you. [Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell, Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Honourable Members, for the benefit of the listening audience we are debating the Heads under the Hospital 21, 22, 24 and 91. The Minister is pres-ently on Head 24, Hospitals. Minister, you may proceed. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, turning …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister, for that wideranging brief. Before I ask for any other speakers, I would just remind Honourable Members that this d ebate is scheduled to end at 7:37. Are there any other speakers? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Honourable MP Dunkley. Please proceed. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to start by thanking the Minister for, as you sai d, a very broad presentation. The Mini ster presented for an extended period of time and covered the brief in all the ministries. …
The Chairman Chairman MP Dunkley, can I just say that I have not received that [revision], so you are at an a dvantage here. Okay? [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman I am sure the Minister will keep up. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for that clarification. I hav e looked through them and I have tried to make some notes and I will refer to that when I come [to that item], so I appreciate your understanding. …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, I was befuddled myself. MP Dunkley , if you could stick to this Budget Book, because I was wondering where you had gone with that figure myself. So, I mean, I understand what you are trying to do but we are dealing with this Bud get Book, please. Hon. …
The Chairman Chairman MP Dunkley, continue. You were on a good line. So please, continue. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, sir. I would like to bat for Somerset so I will stay on that good line, sir. Mr. Chairman, goi ng down that page on B -156 to line item 31997, National Health …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Go ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And I am cognisant of time, I will move through it quite quickly. That is why I am talking at a faster pace than I normally do. So I would like some understanding from the Minister that these sole- sourced contracts will, now …
The Chairman Chairman I was as well. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Let’s spare us; we won’t do it. This department is part of the engine room of the Ministry of Health, which often get s overlooked by what it does in the public but certainly it is well appr eciated by me and …
The Chairman Chairman Going back to the Minister’s brief, I take it. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, I am going back to the Minister’s brief, bac k to Ministry Headquarters 1020 17 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly where it is Control , furthermore, to vaccinations, which the Minister did …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Dunkley. Are there any other speakers? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Before you start, Mr. Opposition Leader, could I remind you that we are finishing at 7:37? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I just have a handful of questions, not many at all. [Crosstalk] The Chairman: Proceed. Proceed. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I would like to refer the Mi nister …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Opposition Leader, could you please give us some line item? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I presume she . . . I am making an assumption because it does not state clearly. So I am presuming it may be under Patient Fees. Does Patient Fees, 8163, include revenues …
The Chairman Chairman Page please. Page and line number. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Page B -161, line item 32000 and 32015. We saw the expenditures of $4.738 [million] for Lefroy House and $5.44 [million] for Sylvia Richardson. Can the Minister confirm whether any of these two care homes realise any revenue? Or …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Opposition Leader. Are there any other speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman I recognise . . . I see you now. MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman I just have one question for the Honourable and Learned Minister. I am not quite sure on the line item. I am guessing it is page B -156. Either under the National Health Emergency, 31997, or possibly under Surveillance line item 31040, but it is somewhere in there. And Minister, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Pearman. Are there any other speakers? I hear none. Minister. Over to you. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will at tempt to answer the questions, not necessarily in the order presented. I am going to start with the last and move forward. With …
The Chairman Chairman Okay, you still have a bit of time. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Okay. I think that is it, Mr. Chairman. I think I have answered the questions that were asked.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other speakers? I hear none. Minister, do you want to move your Heads, please? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Heads 21, 22, 24 and 91 be a pproved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Members, it has been moved that Heads 21, 22, 24 and 91 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? I hear none. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Health, Heads, 21, 22, 24 and 91, were approved and stand part of the Est imates of Revenue and …
The Chairman Chairman Members, it has been m oved that the Committee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? I hear no objection. Agreed to. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. [Motion c arried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress, and sought leave to sit again.]
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker, I turn it back to you. House resumed at 7:22 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE ESTI MATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2021/22
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. Members, are there any objections to the r eport that the Committee rise and reporting progress for leave to sit again? No objections. The leave has been granted. The next item on the Order Paper today is the second reading of the Rent Increases (Domestic Premises) Control …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, might I ask your indulgence. You mentioned earlier today that you would be getting dispensation for the tabling of the—
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to do that before we go to our third readings. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay. I am going to act in behalf of that Minister, so I was just checking.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Hon. Walter H. Roban: So that you know that I am the one who is going to be doing that.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Yes. Continue on with your Bill. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I now move that the Bill entitled Rent Increases (Domestic Premises) Control Temporary Amendment Act 2021 be now read a second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to that? No objections. Continue, Minister. 1024 17 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly BILL SECOND READING RENT INCREASES (DOMESTIC PREMISES) CONTROL TEMPORARY AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce to this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank yo u, Deputy. Does any Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, you have the floor. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Minis ter for bringing this to the House for consideration. Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Minister has referred to a number of motivations for making this determination to bring …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Perhaps the new Member of the House is [unknowingly] misleading the House and also the public. I am the Minister of Home Affairs. I am the Minister responsible for rent control. So that is where the ultimate statutory legal …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I hope that adds some clarity to you, MP, but continue on.
Mr. Jarion Richardson No, no. Thank you. And absolutely. And I thank the Honourable Minister for the clarification, although I do not believe I was misleading the House, Mr. Speaker, especially given that we had only just . . . you know what? I will move on. Mr. Speaker, these components are my …
The Speaker The Speaker Just a reminder to put your video back on, MP. We can hear you clear; we just can’t see you.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Oh, okay. How is that?
The Speaker The Speaker You’re good.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So the goal here is to stimulate economic growth. And if it were to stimulate economic growth then we would be looking at having a bigger impact into the inventory. So, it is as if we are trying to have it both ways. We are saying …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MP Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes, good evening.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Hayward, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you for allowing me to provide intervention into tonight’s debate. Mr. Speaker, what we see here is a Bill that seeks to extend the restrictions on vacation rentals for control of properties. Mr. Speaker, this Bill presents an opportunity for …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Yes, you may. Hon. Jason Hayward: If I reflect on a current article form the realtors of Bermuda in regard to consumer confidence in Bermuda’s real estate market, it speaks specif ically about the rental sector and the boom that the real estate sector is having in regard …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, a point of clar ification for Minister Hayward.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, the Minister had r eferred to the Royal Gazette article that talked about consumer confidence. I wanted to be clear, did the Honourable Minister, was he stating that the consumer confidence was in respect of rent controlled vac ation rentals?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, do you want to give a clarific ation? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, the article spoke to the real estate market which this particular segment, rent control properties, are a part of the real estate market.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, a point of order then. That article was talking about luxury properties. So I have a point of order that one. And everyday condos, I am sorry. Thank you. The S peaker: Noted. Does any other speaker want to make …
Mr. Christopher Famous Good evening, Mr. Speaker.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Christopher Famous I will yield, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I heard . . . is that MP Jackson?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, it is, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I will keep it brief. I just simply wanted to carry on from the “unintended consequences” that my colleague, MP Ric hardson, mentioned in his words. And that is twofold. One is that I am just wondering if the Minister might be able to give, shed some light …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson —so even though they might have an extended lease— [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Excuse me? Mr. Speaker, I think your microphone is on.
The Speaker The Speaker I am sorry about that. Go right ahead.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson That’s okay. Just that the . . . yes, they may have an extended lease now, and so there is this continuity of a tenant. But the fact that they will not be able to adjust their rents, maybe for seasonal reasons and maybe through renovation, they will not be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Christopher Famous Good evening, Mr. Speaker. How are you?
The Speaker The Speaker That sounds like MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, I am to the south of you.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Thank you. You can make your contribution.
Mr. Christopher Famous I won’t be long, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem.
Mr. Christopher Famous What I find curious . . . there is a saying, Things are getting curiouser and curiouser. What I find curiouser is that if those who are in the industry are agreeing with our policies, those who are in the industry are saying that our ho listic policies of whether …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Point of clarification, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP, just pause, we have a point of clarification. Yes. POINT OF C LARIFICATION
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, I am mindful that the Honourable Minister said in his comments that they had met with the Chamber of Commerce. But I have not heard anything more from, for example, the rental real estate agents. In fact, I have heard something contrary to that, that the industry was …
The Speaker The Speaker You point is made. MP, please continue.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, we are now debating “I heard.” Mr. Speaker, I do not have much more to say beyond the fact that I support this Bill. This party supports this Bill. The Government supports thi s Bill. Thank you to the Minister and his team.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? No other Member. Minister, would you like to reply and wrap- up and take us to Committee? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy, would you like to take the Chair and take us into Committee? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. House in Committee at 8:00 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL RENT INCREASES (DOMESTIC PREMISES) CONTROL TEMPORARY AMENDMENT ACT 2021
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Rent Increases (Domestic Premises) Control Temporary Amendment Act 2021 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will now go through the Bill clause …
The Chairman Chairman What clauses are y ou moving first? [Crosstalk ]
The Chairman Chairman Move the whole three— Hon. Walter H. Roban: There are only three clauses.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Just a minute . . . [Crosstalk] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, I will move all three clauses of the Bill, 1 through 3.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman, the Bill seeks to make a temporary amendment to the Rent Increases (Domestic Premises) Control Act 1978 to increase the lengt h of permitted rental to a Bermuda resident in a rent controlled vacation rental unit from an aggregate …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Chairman, MP Richardson.
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Richardson, Honourable Member Richardson, continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. The Honourable Minister gave some numbers earlier, but I just want to get some clar ification as it relates to clause 2, proposed section 6, of the Act, where we are deleting 12 and substituting 24. If he could just let me know how …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson It is, Mr. Chairman. And just for clarification those units then go off the market alt ogether. Those are only permitted . . . they are used only for vacation rental? They cannot be used by ot hers at that time?
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The answer is yes. They cannot be used for any local rental while they have the certificate to be a vacation rental unit.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
The Chairman Chairman No further speakers? Minister, do you want to move the clauses? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble—
The Chairman Chairman Move the clauses first. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I’m sorry. I would like to move clauses 1 through 3.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1, 2 and 3 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Now you can m ove the preamble. Hon. Walter H. Rob an: In addition, of course, the Schedule is applicable . . . oh, there isn’t a Schedule.
The Chairman Chairman No Schedule here. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I move that the preamble be approved, Mr. Chairman. The Chairman: It has been moved that the preamble be appro ved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, I move that the …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Rent Increases (Domestic Premises) Control Temporary Amendment Act 2021 was considered by …
The Chairman Chairman I call on you, Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 8:05 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE RENT INCREASES (DOMESTIC PREMISES) CONTROL TEMPORARY AMENDMENT ACT 2021 The Spe aker: Thank you, Deputy. Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Rent Increases …
The Speaker The Speaker I would like to— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Somebody’s microphone was on. I thought someone was trying to say something. Okay. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Microphones are on.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. I am trying to get . . . okay. 1032 17 March 2021 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Members, we are going to seek your indu lgence. Earlier today when we were going through the Order Paper, I indicated that the Government Bills that were being …
The Speaker The Speaker Which Minister are you acting for? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am acting for the Minister for Cabinet Office, Minister W. Furbert.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Okay. SUSPE NSION OF STANDING ORDER 14 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended so that I may present the following communication to the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to this? No objections. C ontinue. [ Motion carried: Standing Order 14 suspended.] PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE [ Recommitted] BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION (RENTAL AND USE) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2021 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, with the Governors’ r ecommendation and in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Bill to introduce is in the name of the Minister of Transport, Minister. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 14 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Speaker, I move . . . these are actually Regulations, but I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended so that I …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. [ Motion carried: Standing Order 14 suspended.] PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE [ Recommitted] MARINE AND PORTS AUTHORITY (PORT DUES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2021 MARINE BOARD (SEABORNE SERVICES) REGULATIONS 2021 MARINE BOARD (PILOTAGE DUES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2021 Hon. W. Lawrence …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That now takes us to the end of the day and we would like to have the third reading done for the Bill that was done today. Minister, Deputy Premier, would you like to present your third reading? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go right ahead. Bermuda House of Assembly SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Walter H. Roban: I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill ent itled Rent Increases (Domestic Premises) Control Tempor ary Amendment Act 2021 be now read a third time …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? No objections. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING RENT INCREASES (DOMESTIC PREMISES) CONTROL TEMPORARY AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill now be read a third time by its title only and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, the Bill has been read a third time by its title only and passed. [Moti on carried: Rent Increases (Domestic Premises) Control Temporary Amendment Act 2021 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That brings us now to the close of the Order Paper for today.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until the 19th of March at 10:00 am. And I can assure you, Mr. Speaker, that at least one of my Members is speaking this evening on the motion to adjourn.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Premier. Would that one Member wish to make their contribution at this time?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you, I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Is that MP Simmons -Wade?
The Speaker The Speaker MP Simmons -Wade. And let me also ask, I believe this would be a Maiden Speech for you?
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Member who is going to speak on the motion to adjourn is making her maiden speech. I will ask you to respect it as a maiden speech. Member, you have your 20 minutes. MAIDEN SPEECH
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you. Good evening, Mr. Speaker, colleagues and listening audience. Today I rise as someone proud of my Island home, its history and tra ditions. My maiden speech is in memory of my late father, Allan Eugene Simmons and my late husband, Frederick Wade. Mr. Speaker, I am here in …
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Mr. Speaker, I worked hard to ensure that my campaign was about understanding the needs, ambitions and aspirations of my constituents. Affordable and qu ality health insurance, low food costs, quality public education and greater employment opportunities were major concerns. As Members of Parliament we will continue our work to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Member? 1036 17 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jarion Richardson: I do, Mr. Speaker. MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, you may have your 20 minutes, sir. BELCO POWER DISRUPTION
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I won’t be taking up that much time. I just wanted to draw to the attention of this Honourable House the temporary loss of generation at BELCO that we experienced recently. We have seen some comments in the public and I wanted to draw our attention …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Can you see me, Mr. Speak er?
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 20 minutes. CONSTITUENCY 25 —PLP VICTORIES
Mr. Christopher Famous I won’t take that long, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I want to congratulate our colleague for her inspiring maiden speech. She can speak from the capacity as someone who worked holistically, that she put all her effort in the short time that she had to retain that seat for …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I would like to pivot to one other thing before I close. I find it a bit irritating, to say the least, t hat persons who do not work in a profession seem to act like they know all the answers. Tonight I am putting on my BELCO …
The Speaker The Speaker Let me remind you, [INAUDIBLE] be careful how you walk with that because you are not here to represent the employer, you are here to repr esent the people who elected you. —
Mr. Christopher Famous No, I am speaking as a BELCO —
The Speaker The Speaker So be very careful how you walk.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I thank you for your guidance. I am here to speak as a BELCO worker of near 30 years. Mr. Speaker, BELCO workers work in the most arduous conditions, 24 hours a day. We go out in the weather when peopl e are sheltering in. So when persons, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? I hear none. Thank you, Members. At this point the House is closed. We will see you on Friday morning at 10:00 am. [Gavel] [At 8:44 pm, the House stood adjourned unt il …
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