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House of Assembly Session 2020/2021 397 speeches

March 5, 2021

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Session Summary

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This was a statements-only session where Ministers updated Parliament on various government initiatives. The Premier announced a new Economic Recovery Plan with 30 projects focusing on economic diversification, infrastructure, and expanding Bermuda's population. The Deputy Premier outlined plans to ban single-use plastics in three phases starting with import bans in 2022. The Health Minister reported good progress on COVID vaccinations, with over 23,000 shots given and 23% of the population receiving at least one dose.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 5, 2021
Session 2020/2021
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Speakers 31
Speeches 397

Key Topics

Economic Recovery Plan with 30 key initiatives to boost growth and employmentSingle-use plastics ban to be phased in by 2022 to protect the environmentCOVID-19 vaccination progress report showing 23% of population vaccinatedGovernment stimulus program for small contractors worth $13.4 millionReorganization of government human resources departments

Bills & Motions

Education Amendment Act 2021 was tabled (mentioned at end of transcript but details cut off)
No bills were debated or voted on during this sitting - it was limited to Ministerial statements only

Notable Moments

Premier announced creation of a dedicated Project Management Office to implement the Economic Recovery Plan, requiring new staff with specialized skills
Health Minister praised healthcare workers who worked 12-14 hours during a recent vaccination drive when excess doses needed to be used quickly
Works Minister reported strong response to the stimulus program with 98 companies applying for pre-qualification to bid on infrastructure projects

Debate Transcript

397 speeches from 31 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Members w e are now officially into today’s session. Mrs. Beale, will you lead us in prayer? Thank you. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 26 February 2021]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Ms. Beale. Members, the House is now in session. The Minutes of the meeting of the 26th of February have been circulated. Are there any omissions, corrections or amendments required? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 26 February 2021 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM …
The Speaker The Speaker I received the Government of Bermuda response to the COVID -19, Auditor General’s Public Interest Report . And that will be tabled for all Members to have a look at, at your pleasure to read through. APOLOGY
The Speaker The Speaker And I also would like to announce that I have received apologies this morning from MP Ad-ams. He is apologising that he will be absent today. And I think we all can support the reason why he is absent today is that his first child was born last even-ing. And …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are two to be introduced this morning. The first is in the name of the spokesman for the Minister of Youth, Culture and Sport, Minister Furbert. Minister Furbert, would you like to present . . . well, both papers today. Would you like to present your papers, Minister? Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. NATIONAL SPORTS CENTRE ANNUAL REPORTS AND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEARS ENDED 31 MARCH 2012 TO 2015 Hon. Tinee Furbert: I have the honour to attac h and submit for the i nformation of the Honourable House of Assembly the National Sports Centre Annual Reports and Financial …
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to present your second? HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 2019 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Human Rights Commission Annual Report for 2019. 514 5 March 2021 …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker This morning there are some seven Statements. The first is in the name of the Premier. Premie r, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. E. David Burt: Absolutely, Mr. Speaker. And good morning to you and good morning to colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN— IMPLEMENTATION Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, in his Statement in Support of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the Fiscal Year 2021/22, the Honourable Member, the Minister of Finance captured the essence of the critical nature of rebuilding this economy. Without exception, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, Deputy. REPORTING PROGRESS ON THE ELIMINATION OF SINGLE -USE PLAST ICS Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to update this Honourable House on the progress undertaken toward the elimination of single- use plastics in Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to announce that we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister for the Cabinet Office. Mr. Furbert, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes, Minister. Go …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister Wilson, would you like to present your Statement at this time? COVID -19 VACCINE —A PROGRESS REPORT FOR BERMUDA Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Spe aker. Mr. Speaker, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Ministe r Burch, would you like to present your Statement at this time?
Lt. Co l. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. GOVERNMENT STIMULUS PROGRAMME UPDATE
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker. It was Dec ember the 17 th, 2020, when the Executive Director of the Bermuda Economic Development Corporation, Mrs. Erica Smith, and I launched the Short Term Stimulus Programme to a maximum value of BD$13,385,000 and invited small to medium - sized contractors to participate. Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is for Youth, Culture and Sport. Minister Tinee Furbert is the spokesman in the House for the Minister of Youth, Culture and Sport. So, Minister Furbert, would you like to present your Statement this morning? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes. Thank you, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The final Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister, would you like to present your Statement this morning? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, sir. TABLING OF A BILL ENTITLED EDUCATION AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, Bermuda’s economy continues to be dominated by international business and tourism. Additionally, we know that over the years the trades have also undergirded steady growth in the economy. There are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister . That Statement brings us to a close of the Statement period this morning. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker As a reminder, we have 60 minutes for Question Period, start ing now. First, we have a series of written questions that we deferred from previous sittings. And the first written question this morning is in the name of MP Dunkley to the Minister of Health. And these require a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker MP, have you received your copies? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, good morning. Good morning, colleagues. I note the answers are on the parliamentary website. Yes, sir. QUESTIONS: ALL COVID -19 RELATED CONTRACTS UNDERTAKEN BY THE GOVERNMENT Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next question this morning, [a] written question, is from the Opposition Leader to the Minister of Finance. And all three of these questions require an oral response. Opposi tion Leader, would you like to put your question? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Just as a note . . . I am sorry. The Minister of Finance has advised that his technical officers have not been able to complete the answers to the questions [as] of yet. And he has asked that it be deferred to the next …
The Speaker The Speaker I would have appreciated being informed of that sooner. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker If he would have made it known. And if the answers are not available, I will ask the Opposition Leader to allow us to have them deferred until the next sitting. Premier, the next sitting is on Monday. Can we expect them on Monday, or will they need to be …
The Speaker The Speaker The next question this morning is to Minister Ming from Honourable MP Jackson. And again all three of these questions are for oral response. MP Jackson, would you like t o put your questions? QUESTION 1: ASSESSMENT AND TREATMENT PLANS FOR INCARCERATED SEX OFFENDERS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Yes, please; and good morning to the Minister of National Security. Will the Honourable Minister please prov ide this Honourable House a description of the assessment and treatment plans actively conducted on incarcerated sex offenders?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: There are different forms of assessments depending on need. The first is purely a pre-sentence psychological risk assessment often ordered by the court by way of an S-3 29-E. Typically the risk for sexual violence protocol will be conducted. Primarily this assessment highlights the presence of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susan E. Jackso n I am wondering if the Minister would kindly let us know how many of these assessments were carried out in 2020?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: I do not have that [information] right now. We are due to receive the 2020 Parole Board repor t by March 31 st of this year. So those figures and stats will be available as well.
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Well, maybe I can ask it this way then. How often are these assessments delivered? And I am trying to find the practic al side of it. So it is one thing to have a description of these assessments. I am just trying to figure out how they are actually …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: So, I am little confused. Can you just clarify? Are you asking . . . I did not get what the actual question was in that. 526 5 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Susan E. Jackson: I am trying …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson All right. I will accept the “may be carried out” with the suggestion that you have mentioned that you could provide the numbers of assessments that have been carried on in 2020 at the March 31 st report from the Parole Board . Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No more supplementaries for that one.
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to put your second question now? QUESTION 2: ASSESSMENT AND TREATMENT PLANS FOR INCARCERATED SEX OFFENDERS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please, Mr. Speaker. Will the Honourable Minister please provide this Honourable House details on the mandatory courses and programmes convicted sex off enders have to complete before release?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Surely. Mr. Speaker, the Department of Corrections currently runs the Life Minus Violence —Harmful Sexual Behaviour programme on both a group and individual t herapy basis. It is a cognitive -skills -based programme that examines a wide range of sexual behavi our and offending, with a primary aim to reduce …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I have one. When it comes to the mandatory provision of programmes, does any of that involve medicating offenders, incarcerated members? I am just curious. Hon. Renee Ming: I would not have the answer to that question now. I can endeavour to get it for you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. The Spe aker: Any other supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No supplementary on the second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to put your third question now? QUESTION 3: ASSESSMENT AND TREATMENT PLANS FOR INCARCERATED SEX OFFENDERS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please, Mr. Speaker. Will the Honourable Minister please provide the Honourable House the Parole Board criteria for granting early release to sex offenders?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Speaker, the Parole Board is a [INAU DIBLE ], meaning for each potential parolee the board receives or requests certain information from various g overnment entities to assist and guide the final board decision, which is reached collectively and collaboratively. Some of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Susan E. Jackson: No supplementary on that one. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. That brings a close to your series of questions. The next written question this morning is from MP Dunkley to the Minister of Health. MP Dunkley, would you like to put your question? And all three of those questions require oral re-sponse. QUESTION 1: COVID -19 VACCINE …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, yes. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: One person had their first appointment on the 11 th of January, and their second appointment was the 27th of January. Nine persons had their first appointment on the 14th of January, with their second appointment being the 1st of February. Seven persons had …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Is there a supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: When were these errors uncovered?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information at my disposal right now with respect to the date. However, that is a matter of public record because I did give a statement on it concer ning that particular incident. And the date I do recall …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplement ary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Who facilit ated these appointments? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, the persons who facilitated those appointments were those 34 persons. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. For clarity then, how were those appointments made? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, those persons would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you like to put your second question? QUESTION 2: COVID -19 VACCINE BOOKINGS Hon. Michael H . Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Honourable Minister please in form this Honourable House to date how many individuals have failed to show for a confirmed COVID -19 vaccine …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, th e total number of individuals who failed to show for the appointments were 1,454.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker, supplementary. To the Honourable Minister, how were the vaccines set aside for these 1,454 used? 528 5 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We facilitate two avenues. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Third question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Put your third question. QUESTION 3: COVID -19 VACCINES DISCARDED Hon. Michael H. Dunkle y: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House if any COVID -19 vaccines have been discarded due to not being used or held at the wrong storage temperature?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Mr. Speaker, vaccines have been discarded due to not being used. That is with respect to the first part of the question. And then the second [part of the] question, vaccines have not been discarded due to being held at a wrong storage …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. M ichael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: How many was the total number of vaccines that have been discarded due to not being used? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I do not have that specific number. But what I can say, I think [ INAUDIBLE] assist the Honourable Member. Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have a supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I think I have used all of my supplementaries on this, Mr. Speaker.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. A supplementary from MP Jackson. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minister, good morning. I was just wondering, given the urgency of getting as many people vaccinated as possible, whether there is any consideration to sending out, sort of last -minute digital social media messages to attract people to come to the vari-ous vaccine locations toward the …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. QUESTION 1: THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN —IMPLEMENTATION Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I note that the Economic Recovery Plan has devised and focuses on 30 key initiatives. Can the Premier provide details of the top five priorities of the 30 key initiatives?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as is stated inside of my Statement, the Minister will table the full plan on the 16 th of March at our House sitting.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary, Opposition Leader? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Well, he did not really answer my question, Mr. Speaker. I asked for what his top five priorities were in regard to the key initiatives. [Pause] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I will have to repeat the answer which …
The Speaker The Speaker Next question. QUESTION 2: THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN —IMPLEMENTATION Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: And that question is in regard to the Economic Recovery Project Management Office. Has there been a budget allotment for this office, given that it has a prominent role in our develop-ment going forward? Hon. E. …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Yes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: And when does he expect to have the office opened? Hon. E. David Burt: The allotment will be contained in this year’s budget, which was laid. I thi nk the Honourable Member will find out from the Cabinet Office line items. I am …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. N. H. Col e Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have no further question.
The Speaker The Speaker No further questions? Okay. Thank you. The next question this morning in reference to a Statement is for the Deputy Premier. And that question is from the Honourable Member Jackson. Honourable Member, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: REPORTING PROGRESS ON THE ELIMINATION OF SINGLE -USE PLASTICS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My first question is that I am interested in finding out whether the Minis ter will be tabling the paper 530 5 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly on the regulation of the single- use plastics in Bermuda?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. (I am just trying to get my camera on.) More information will be brought to the House once the policy is officia lly approved by Cabinet and is appropriately vetted by the Government. And then it will be …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No. But I do have another question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Pu t your second question. QUESTION 2: REPORTING PROGRESS ON THE ELIMINATION OF SINGLE -USE PLASTICS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. On page 3, Minister, there was a mention of the commitment to eliminate single- use pla stics by 2022. I am just curious whet her there is going to be a hard- cut elimination deadline or whether we are going to reduce first with then a view to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, go ahead. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I believe I outlined t he phases clearly, Mr. Speaker, as to what we are doing, on pages 4 throughout. The first phase— and I will go right to the Statement if the Member can refer. The first phase would involve …
Ms. Sus an E. Jackson Okay. I have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Referring to sort of the number two, that second phase then, the prohibiting of sale, [will we] be doing that gradually, certain items at a time?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay. So, it will not be across the board all of their stock will be eliminated? But that it might just be straws and cutlery, and then move to the next? Hon. Walter H. Roban: That is exactly what my Statement says.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Okay. And thank you, MP, for your questions. We now move on to the next Statement that has questions this morning. And that is from the Minister for the C abinet Office, from MP Jackson. MP Jackson, you have questions once again.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, a busy morning for me,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Go ahead and put your question. QUESTION 1: ABOLITION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson These are just shor t questions. Good morning, Minister. I just have a question regarding the positions, the actual jobs within Human Resources. Will there be any elimination of roles in this consolidation? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Unfortunatel y, MP Jackson, I do not have the chart in front of …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay. Thank you. I have another question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Or second question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson It is a second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. QUESTION 2: ABOLITION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am just curious about the location. So one, I do not know whether —has a permanent new location been established? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Discussions are taking place. We have not yet chosen a permanent location and place.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson And again I am not sure. I would suspect some of these human resource departments are located right within existing departments for government. But if they are in any of these sort of separat e satellite locations, will t here be a consolidation? Are there buildings that will be vacated …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any further questions?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Not right now. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister, that is the end of the questions for you. The next Statement this morning which has questions is for the Minister of Health. Minister of Health, MP Dunkley would like to put questions to you. MP. QUESTION 1: COVID -19 VACCINE —A PROGRESS REPORT FOR BERMUDA Hon. Michael …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahea d. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Minister did say that the vaccine has been purchased from the COVAX Facility. What was the cost of the purchase of the 26,400 doses?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wil son: Yes, Mr. Speaker. That matter is on public record. In fact, I think it was the Honourable Member who asked me that question previously when I spoke about it. I want to say around 260. I do not know exactly off the top of …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. If it has been asked before, it would be in the House record. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: That is correct.
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary ? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary or new question? 532 5 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, further supplementary, Mr. Speaker. I do not recall that answer, but I will research it as well. Has there been any purchase cost for the 39,215 vaccines from the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. New question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: New question, Mr. Speaker. Yes, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: COVID -19 VACCINE —A PROGRESS REPORT FOR BERMUDA Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: On page 10 of the Statement, the Honourable Minister in a paragraph says, “Nowhere was this more evident than this past Wednesday, when an excess of vaccine doses needed to be used immediately.” Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, the issue concerning the excess, I believe th ere were 35 vials. And as I have said previous ly, Mr. Speaker, once a vial has been taken from the sub- zero temperatures, it has to be used within five days. And there was …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENT ARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when are the vials removed from cold storage? At the beginning of the week or at the beginning of the day for usage? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I do not have those …
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary from MP Pearman. Yes, put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, given that you are running a waitlist, if I understood you correctly, why would one go through a sort of email blast rather than go to people who are already on the existing waitlist? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: That is a very good question that the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? No. New question, MP Dunkley? QUESTION 3: COVID -19 VACCINE —A PROGRESS REPORT FOR BERMUDA Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker , a new question. Wednesday was the first day a plea was issued. Is it safe to assume that it was becaus e of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly And that brings us to a close of questions for the Minister of Health. The next Statement that has questions this morning is for the Minister of Works. Minister of Works, you have a question from MP Cannonier. MP, would you like to put …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On page 1, the Minister mentions, I will just quote it: “As a result, the Ministry of Public Works compiled a list of shovel -ready projects that are executable within three months.” And then on page 3 at the end he mentions, “Although there are 43 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, thank you for the question. The answer is yes, or sooner.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No. Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question, yes. QUESTION 2: GOVERNMENT STIMULUS PROGRAMME UPDATE
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Are the estimated values of these 43 projects close to the value of the $13 million that he has stated in this joint project that [they] are putting to spend?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, the $13,385,000 is the total of the 43 projects’ estimate.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Suppleme ntary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, that brings the questions for you to a close. The next Statement this morning that has questions is for the Minister Tinee Furbert. And that is from MP Pearman. MP, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 2019
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Minister, thank you for your presentation today tabling the Annual Report of the Human Rights Commiss ion. My question is on the third page of your Statement where you mention the number of complaints, 128 complaints received in the relevant period. And you identified the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Honourabl e Member. I am just going to look in the report because I believe it is in the report, MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman It may be at 18, page 18. Hon. Tinee Furbert: So, the intake by gender is page 17.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: [It show s] 66 per cent female, 31 per cent male and 2 per cent gender not stated.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. I just take you over to page 18. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Can you repeat the question?
Mr. Scott Pearman There is a chart on the distribution of intakes by ground of discrimination. It is figure 6, Distribution of intakes by ground of discrimination. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, I see. I am trying to understand your question.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. I am just trying to get to—I mean we know the percentage from your Statement. Disability is 34 per cent, race 11 per cent. And gender was not covered. And it does seem from this box here that gender is 8 per cent? Hon. Tinee Furbert: So, yes. Gender …
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Supplementary, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Do your supplementary. 534 5 March 2021 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARIES Mr . Scott Pearman: So, Honourable Minister, after disability, if one includes gender and indeed pregnancy at 6 per cent, gender seems to be the number -two for complaints after disability. So disability would …
Mr. Sco tt Pearman Supplementary, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary? Mr . Scott Pearman: Second supplementary. In terms of the largest grounds of complaint, the disability complaints at 34 per cent, how do you propose and how does the Human Rights Commission propose to tackle the fact that disability is so overwhelmingly large compared to race or gender?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will have to get that answer for MP Pearman. But there does speak to . . . there is a section in the report that speaks to (let me just find it, sorry). I be-lieve it is page 20, Member.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Where it speaks to the investigations by grounds of discrimination.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: And it speaks to . . . like you said, [that] race and sex were identified as a ground of discrimination in six matters, those based on pregnancy and also place of origin and disability repre-sented in three of the cases, which I believe had something …
The Speaker The Speaker I know what you are going to raise, I am pretty sure. I am just trying to get a clarification myself. Before you go there, let me just address what I think you are going to. The questions should have been related to the Statement itself and not to the …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I a m grateful for the clarification. However, the Statement at page 3 identifies that 34 per cent of the claims were on the ground of disability, by far and away the largest, triple that of race, more than four times that of gender. So the …
The Speaker The Speaker As long as you are addressing your question to what is in the Statement, there is no prob-lem.
The Speaker The Speaker When you start referring to the report itself, that is beyond what this section of the agenda allows today.
Mr. Scott Pe arman I am grateful, Mr. S peaker, a nd directed. And I believe that I am addressing the Statement as put at page 3, the second bullet point.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. If you refer to page 3, you are fine, any from pages 1 to 7, you are fine. When you start referring to pages 18 and 20, you are going beyond. Mr . Scott Pearman: I got it. I got, Mr. Speaker. I am grateful for the direction. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I can answer that question.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the Commission will be issuing guidel ines in regard to the support of reasonable accommodation in the workplace. So, there are guidelines being worked on for reasonable accommodation in the workplace. That will be pre-sented to persons in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Suppleme ntary?
Mr. Scott Pearman I think I have had my supplementaries. If I may move on to my second question, Mr. Spe aker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Second question. QUESTION 2: HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 2019
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My second question is at page 5 of the Statement, the penultimate paragraph. The Honourable Minister identifies that she has been “informed of the Commission undertaking a full independent review of the Act . . . .” May I just clarify with the Honourable Minister? So, …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Does the Honourable Minister have an idea of the timeframe of that review and when we might see any consequences of that review?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. Can MP Pearman please repeat the question? Sorry, I coul dn’t hear.
The Speaker The Speaker He is trying to find out if there is a timeline to that Commission as to the report and any idea on when the timeline would be for that.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is my question. Hon. Tinee Furbert: So I do not have a timeline, Mr. Speaker, in regards to that. The only timeline is the accreditation, which was mentioned in the Statement, which was in regard to the process with the Global Alliance for National Human …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman No, no further supplementary, not from me anyway. Thank you, Honourable Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No further supplementaries from any Member? That brings us to a close of the question and answer period. And we will now move on to the other items on the Order Paper. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SP EECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to speak? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am having trouble starting my video , my sincere apologies. Mr. Speaker, I would like today to extend my sincere and heartfelt condolences to the family of the late Dr. Faith Burgess Clarke, who passed away yes-terday. Dr. Faith …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Okay. Thank you, thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Absolutely.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Premier! Hon. E. David Burt: I will associate the entire House. Dr. Faith Burgess Clarke was certainly a pioneer practitioner, chiropractor. And she was B ermuda’s first Black chiropractor in the work. And I want ask the House to send a letter of condolences to her family. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker You have about a half a minute left. Go ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: I would like to as sociate myself with condolences that were given by the Honourable Member Kim Swan on February 19 th to the family of Vernal Burns, to certainly his wife, Peggy, and children David, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Associate the entire House, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: And I would like to absolut ely associate the entire House for the congratulatory remarks on his retirement for Mr. Allan Trew. Do I have more time, Mr. Speaker, or am I up?
The Speaker The Speaker No. I think the clock is done. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will reserv e until Monday.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Sounds like Mr. MP Tyrrell?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Tyrrell, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good morning, all. Mr. Speaker, I wish to have congratulations to sent out from this House to two young outstanding persons I am very familiar with. The first one is Mr. Dequan Trott, who attends the CedarBridge Academy. He is the s on of Dion and Thelma Trott. Dequan was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker, you have your thr ee minutes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank y ou, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the remarks concerning Ms. Faith Burgess Clarke on her passing. Also, Mr. Speaker, I would like to send condolences to the family of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Renee Ming: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Sounds like Minister Ming. Minister, you have your three minute s. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I would like to extend condolences right now to the family of Mr. Yusaff Pitt from St. George’s, a well -known football player, a Corporation of St. George’s worker and …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Sounds like MP Jackson. You have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Mr. S peaker, I would like to send condolences to the Wilkie family on the passing of their mother, Joan Wilkie. So there are children, Annabella and Bruce Wilkie. And I remember Joan, and she was in her mid- 90s the last time that we spoke. And she …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Mr. Speaker. Yes, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The Opposition Leader, I hear your voice. You have your three minutes. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I would like to congratulate the new Acting Financial Secretary, Ms. Cheryl -Ann Lister. I think she is well qualified for the post. I found out …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Tinee Furbert.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Furbert, yes. Minister Furbert, you have your three minutes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will not take all three minutes. But I do want to get the House to send condolences to the family of Mr. Glen Outerbridge, who is actually being funeralised today. And his …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Famous. How are you today, MP?
Mr. Christopher Famous Good day, Mr. Speaker, I am speaking from the West side of the House of Assembly .
The Speaker The Speaker Well, that means it will be clear for you. You have your three minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. I am going to need it. Mr. Speaker, today I want to give tribute to a great woman, a lady who lived to be 101 years old. She was a staunch PLP supporter. And at age 100 years old, she was able to wal k to the polling station …
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. She never let me out of the house if my shoes were not shiny. I speak of a lady who took care of the Leader of our country when he was a young man in his playpen.
The Speaker The Speaker And a handful, eh?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. And when she saw that he, you know , bobbled a little bit, she used to have some colourful language for him. [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous She was a staunch listener of your weekly show called the House of Assembly, Mr. Speaker. And the lady I am speaking of is someone cal led Ms. Phyllis Wade. Anyone who knew her knew she was the life of the party right up to the last moment. And on …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honour able Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Campbell. Is that MP Campbell?
Mr. Vance Campbell Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your three minutes.
Mr. Vance Campbell I would just like to associate myself with the comments of MP Famous. Ms. Wade, when I canvassed her prior to the elec tion, she gave me great motivation. She asked me, You’re a PLP candidate, Mr. Campbell? She held up my picture, and she kissed it. And that gave …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTA NCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There is one Bill to be introduced this morning, and that is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister. FIRST READING EDUCATION AMENDMENT ACT 2021 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOS ITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker The first Order is the Reply to the Budget, and I am going to ask with the indulgence of the House, in that it is now 12:15, we would have broken for lunch at 12:30. I am going to ask that we add on an extra 15 minutes and break …
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. It is now 2:00 pm. We can r esume the afternoon session. We have now been through sort of the preliminary business of the day and we are going to start the Orders of the Day with the consideration of the motion for the approval of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Shadow Minister, Opposition Leader, are you ready to deliver your Reply to the Budget today? You have the floor, sir. All of our microphones will be muted during your presentation. THE OPPOSITION’S REPLY TO THE BUDGET STATEMENT 2021/22 Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, without a doubt, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Opposition Leader. Does any other Member wish to speak? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Spe aker: Honourable Deputy Premier, we recognise you, and you have the floor. B ermuda House of Assembly DEBATE ON THE BUDGET STATEMENT AND REPLY TO THE BUDGET Hon. Walter …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, as the second speaker . . . Hon. Walter H. Roban: I just wanted to confirm . . .
The Speaker The Speaker The opening speaker had his time. You have 30 minutes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Is it 30?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes sir. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay, I just wanted to confirm the rules, Mr. Speaker, so I can be sure.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I will just try to paint a picture for our listening public in particular, because I do not believe I am . . . it is very clear what our opponents feel, Mr. Speaker. We have been belaboured for two hours with their Reply …
The Speaker The Speaker You have just under two minut es left, Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Gracious me, Mr. Speaker! Time just flies.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: With that, I think I can say as I said from the very beginning, we are faced with a very historic, monumental opportunity in our hi story to reshape this economy, to reshape Bermuda, to em-brace the opportunity to be a leader in climate, to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. That sounds like MP Dunkley. MP Dunkley, you have your 30 minutes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, good af ternoon. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I get into my presentation today let me start off where the Deputy Premier ended where he said we have a …
The Speaker The Speaker That is correct. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —is the real shortage of any information about where we are going in health care in the b udget. And I am sure when we get to the debate in Committee of Supply there will be more discussion about it. But Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any Honourable Member wish to make a contributi on at this time? Any other Member? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Can you see me?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: How are you?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you have your 30 minutes, sir. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Good. Mr. Speaker, first of all, let me say good afternoon to you, and good afternoon to all.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, it is interesting. I have been li stening to the Opposition, and it is important that I point out a few things that came to my attention. First of all, the Opposition Leader spoke about reducing the number of MPs. And I …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Just allow me two minutes; I just feel kind of faint right now. I will pass over to my coll eague, the next person.
The Speaker The Speaker Woul d you like . . . Members, we are going to ask, if you do not mind yielding, and letting another Member take the floor and Minister, when your health restores later, after that Member’s speech, you can come back. Is there any other Member who would like to …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Minister Rabain.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Minister. You can have your 30 minutes and then the Minister Furbert, if he is feeling better, can return. Okay? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, I am feeling a little under the weather as well, but —
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you do not have to take the whole 30 minutes. You certainly do not have to take it all. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I do wish for his speedy recovery. But I would say that I probably was not surprised at the presentation that we had today. It …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, just to correct you. He did declare his interest when he made reference to the banks. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Ah! Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I do apologise for that because I did not hear that when he did. But Mr. Speaker, when he does speak of …
Ms. Susan E. Jac kson Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order, yes. POINT OF ORDER
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to state that we have met with the Minister and he did give us a comprehensive overview of the reform. And we look forward to meeting with him again in the future.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Spe aker, and I was going to get to that. The last meeting that I had with the Opposition was March 2020. I have contacted both of them since the last election and neither of them have found time to meet with …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I have not received any response.
The Speaker The Speaker We will take a point of or der. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I have sent a communication to say, “Can we meet?” POINT OF ORDER
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, I and my colleagues have attended the online Parish Primary School Reform meetings and presentations and we have remained engaged. We are listening.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I will restate it. I have reached out directly to the Shadow Minister of Education. I have asked him to come and sit with me one on one so we can talk about educati on reform. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have been on a good ground all this time. Keep doing well. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And so, Mr. Speaker, when I read things in here, when it talks about the public educatio n reform and the consultation that is going on now …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. You indic ated you were not going to use all your 30 minutes, you used 28 of them. How is that? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: [Laughs ]
The Speaker The Speaker Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert, are you feeling up to it now? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I [was feeling bad] myself. Anyway, I am back.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, you can have your 30 minutes now. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, Mr. Speaker, let me just say that today is our economic debate, and it is my intention to stick with facts and the economic impact on our Island home. We all understand the …
The Speaker The Speaker You can share your screen. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Is it coming up ?
The Speaker The Speaker We see the graph, yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, Mr. Speaker, let me just look at total revenue . . . this is the Government’s revenues, just under a billion dollars . . . $999 million. Can you see that, Mr. Speaker? Mr. Speaker? The Sp eaker: Yes, go …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The GDP went from $7.1 million, $7.2 million up to $7.4 million—that was 2019 year—and, of course, it droppe d off in 2020. Retail sales index, Mr. Speaker, look at this . . . look at this, Mr. Speaker. In January was down 2.3 per …
Mr. Jarion Richard son Point of order, Mr. Speaker. I can’t hear anything. I can try to disconnect. Mr. Speaker, can you hear me? There you go. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: MP, I can hear you. I can hear you loud and clear. POINT OF ORDER [Standing Order 16(3)]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I raise a point of order as it relates to guidance from you. The Honourable Minister alluded to tabling those spreadsheets, and under Standing Order 16, I believe that we are entitled to get a copy of those. And I would like to know …
The Speaker The Speaker I am sorry, my microphone was muted, I am sorry. If we were in the House, Whip, yes, the Minister would have had to table it. Being we are not in the House, he asked permission to share it on the sc reen. So we all saw i t, but …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Jarion Ri chardson Mr. Speaker, on that point of order, what is the guidance if we do not get it before the Committee of Supply when it would be of most use?
The Speaker The Speaker Well—
Mr. Jarion Richardson When I raised the point of order, I would have raised an object ion in the House.
The Speaker The Speaker We would like to have it as soon as possible. So, Minister, as soon as possible if you can get it sent over, because the Budget Debate will start on Monday, and if someone wants to make reference to it, at least we have it. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. With that said, I think we took care of the point of order. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier?
Mr. L. Craig Can nonier Yes. 572 5 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: MP, you have your 30 minutes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to colleagues and to Bermuda as a whole. I would like to start out by saying thank you to the Opposition Leader for his methodical Reply and his consideration of where we are, how we should be potentially moving forward in …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Well, the Honourable Member says . . . he is being quoted in the paper today saying, you know, he needs to move forward. And I am wondering wha t exactly is happening up there, we spent a lot of money. At the end of the day, Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you, MP. I appreciat e your contribution.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, I would like to say a few words.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jac kson, yes, you have your 30 minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I just want to begin by saying that we are definitely in a position here where it is a bit of a holding pattern. And, you know, I have heard this quote lately that we are surviving, we are not thriving yet. And when I think …
The Speaker The Speaker Honour able Member —
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes? The Speake r: —your 30- minute alarm is going off.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your contribution. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Minister Tinee Furbert.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert, yes, you have your 30 minutes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am hoping I do not take all of my 30 minutes. 580 5 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Spe aker: Well, the alarm will let me know when you …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, anyone knows that managing a budget can be very, very challenging, because you can only spend what you have, or what you borrow. So, I remember as a young girl listening to videos about money management and I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, Honourable Member, you are going into something that your brief will cover. We are just talking about the Budget, not the specifics. You are going really into your Ministry, something that you would have in your brief. Hon. Tinee Furbert: No, this information is not in my brief, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, but it should be in your brief. T his is not the time. Hon. Tinee Furbert: No, it is totally unrelated, but I will take your point. It is totally unrelated.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Thank you. Hon. Tinee Furbert: So, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I just want to close by saying that we are a Government cognisant of the social issues and we will continue to support our people who are most vulnerable when they need it. Thank you, Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. Are there a ny further speakers?
Ms. Lovitta F. Fo ggo Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I will yield to anyone in the OBA if someone—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The Chair recognises the Honourable Mem ber Lovitta Foggo.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, imagine you being the Finance Minister of a country when COVID -19 hit. Imagine being responsible for trying to come up with solutions to address and meet the impact of COVID in Bermuda House of Assembly the way that many governments worldwide …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member Foggo. Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That sounds like MP Richardson.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have the floor, sir.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, sir. First of all, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to express my gratitude to the Minister of Finance and his civil service support team who have undoubtedly contributed countless hours to this budget. Although I say it tongue in cheek, it is with a bit of admiration …
Mr. Christ opher Famous Point of order, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Deputy Speaker, good evening. The Honourable Member is speaking about we are one rock, and inflammatory language. But on page 8 of the Reply to the Budget it says, “The Minister of Finance has failed to deliver either one of these objectives in any kind of robust or detailed …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Carry on, Honourable Member.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And to that end I do not think an evaluation, however uncomfortable, is always inflammatory. And to that end that is why . . . and I am going to continue with this point, but I do take the Honourable Member’s point. And he is …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, I think you saw it demonstrated and the world saw it demonstrated during the last year. The Government paid everybody whether you were Bermudian or foreigner.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Exactly. Exactly.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I just do not want you to forget that.
Mr. Jarion Richardson No, no, no, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I mean, it is hard to sort of balance in a half hour all the good . . . not all the good, because I mean, I am trying not to say that something is horrible and there is something that is wonderful. There …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Oh, I called her Mr. Pearman. Yes, Honourable Minister, Ms. Ming. You have the floor. Hon. Renee Ming: Good evening, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and listening audience. Thank you for allowing me a few minutes to be able to add my thoughts and comments to the general Budget Debate. Mr. Deputy …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Minister Ming. Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Pearman. You have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Good evening. Can you see me there, Mr. Deputy Speaker? Bermuda House of Assembly The Deputy Speaker: Yes, yes. I can see you and hear you.
Mr. Scott Pearman It would be better without the video, but I am afraid that is what I look like so . . . [Laughter]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I make no comment. [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is hard for me believe that as the once- newbie, this is in fact my third Budget Debate already. It has gone quickly, I know, I know. But here I am. What I did in my first two was to try to be as balanced as …
Mr. Scott Pearman Excuse me. The Leader of the Opposition is remindi ng me that the entire OBA team says that as well. It does not make sense to pay a bank to borrow to put into a fund to pay back the money you borrowed from the bank. And so there too, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I do not want to interrupt MP Pearman’s flow, but I t hink context is really important when referencing my re-marks and then offering a critique or a criticism of what was said. The …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I readily accept the intervention from the Minister of Finance. I take his point. I fully accept that the quote was deployed in the context that he states it was. Nonetheless, it is a quote that I have been hearing a lot of late. And …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have got 10 minutes.
Mr. Sco tt Pearman Okay. I’m grateful. Looking at page 14 of the Budget Statement, I am delighted to see that one of the seven identified initiatives is extending the resident population. I think the PLP is right to be on board with this. The OBA has been there before. But this is not …
Mr. Scott Pearman —there clearly is — Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of order, Honourable Premier. POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Honourable Member cannot make up figures. The debt figures are clearly published for all to see. And we understand exactly what Bermuda’s net debt position is. And Berm uda’s net debt position is not …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, just be mindful of what is in the book.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It is unfortunate perhaps that the Premier tuned in late because I explained precisely how I got to the figure of 4.5. I added in the [$]1.47 [billion] unfunded public sector pension fund, which is a promise to our public sector workers — Hon. E. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is y our point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member cannot invent what the definitions of debt are. And so, he cannot use in his argument that Bermuda is $4.5 billion in debt when we have laws and statements which state what the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, just be mindful of what is in the Budget Book, where our debt is. I understand what you said, but you got to quote the book.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. I am grateful, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Our gross debt, as I said, as of August 2020 was $3.35 billion. Our net debt as I understand it from the presentation is just below $3 billion . . . or just Bermuda House of Assembly above $3 billion. Our unfunded public …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of order, Mr. Premier. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: It is wholly inaccurate to state that future pension obligations which are unfunded due to actuarial calculations on money that has to be repaid. It is not accurate. It is not keeping with finances. It is a …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, stay away from that because it is speculating. That is not the exact figure and we do not want Honourable Members to give the public that notion that that is what it is. So if you can stay away from that.
Mr. Scott Pearman Absolutely.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That is appreciated.
Mr. Scott Pearman And I would just point out that splitting hairs between $4.5 and $3.0 billion . . . I mean, they are both pretty bad. But I will leave it to the Minister of Finance and the Premier to have the conversation about the unfunded pension liability and I will leave …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman —it will put more people in Bermuda . . . how much time, Mr. Deputy Speaker?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have two seconds.
Mr. Scott Pearman Okay. It will grow more people into paying our health care system. To conclude, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would just like to commend the Minister of Na tional Secu rity, Renee Ming, for what she said, which is, We are in this together. And I would say back to the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Go ahead, Mr. De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to ask you to just be a little, give me a little leeway from t ime to time. I am operating with one hand.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It has nothing to do with your mouth. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: True. But I have the session up on my cell phone and I am trying to hold and look at my notes at the same time.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, go ahead. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Please bear with me if I need to look down at times.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Understood. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to start off first by congratulating “ Porky ” Manders and his team. “Porky, ” as we know, was the former Financial Secretary. He passed away just a few weeks ago. I knew the man. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. De Silva. Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Christopher Famous Good evening, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That is Mr. Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, your cousin.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Famous, Honourable Member, my honourable cousin. You have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Deputy Speaker, normally I hear people say, I wasn’t planning on speaking, but . . . [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous So tonight, I am going to add to that cadre and say I wasn’t planning on speaking but when I heard MP Jarion Richardson and MP Scott Pearman speak I was inspired to be like Cousin Wayne Furbert. Mr. Deputy Speaker, one of the advantages of having this virtual Parliament …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Famous. I hear the great Colonel Burch. Colonel Burch, you have the floor.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I haven’t said anything. How do you hear me?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I can hear way, way before you speak. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Oh, I see. Mr. Deputy Speaker, one of the challenges of going this late in the batting order is that many people who have gone before you have said what you wanted to say. But I still have something to contribute. This is my 14 th budget I think, Mr. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister, Colonel Burch. Any further speakers?
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Mr. Vance Campbell [It is] MP Campbell.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Campbell. Continue, Honourable Member.
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Deputy Speaker, Bermuda is fortunate to have Mr. Curtis Dickinson as its Finance Minister during these challenging economic times. He is doing an admirable job, given the circumstances. Mr. Deputy Speaker, few would want his job right now. And even fewer would be able to match his performance. But, …
Mr. Vance Campbell We heard about the SAGE Report, 140 pages, Mr. Deputy Speaker. If you do not believe me, I will show it to you. I have it right here, 140 pages. I believe it was completed in October of 2013. And again, the Minister of Finance when he spoke indicated they …
Mr. Vance Campbell —amongst oth er influential lobbyists, NGOs and other influence. That is very na-ïve, Mr. Deputy Speaker, to think that this is going away no matter who we align ourselves with. We know what this is about. It has nothing to do with anti -money laundering. It has nothing to do …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh boy.
Mr. Vance Campbell —would have us believe they are the financial geniuses. But today we heard from the Leader of that party. When referr ing to the Caroline Bay, the Morgan ’s Point development, he indicated that it was a poisoned chalice from the start. But his Government turned around and provided $165 …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. Campbell. I think the Speaker will take . . . Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy, for filling in. Thank you, Honourable Member Campbell, for your comments. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. E. Dav id Burt: Mr. Speaker, if no one else wishes to speak, I am happy to do so.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, I am going to acknowledge you, so feel free to make your contribution. Hon. E. David Burt: All right. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, let me start where the Honourable Member from constituency 9 left off, in congratulating the Minister of Finance for delivering an excellent …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. You were just short of your one- minute time remaining. I am assuming the Minis ter of Finance would like to close us out. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I sure will, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour this evening of being joined by my oldest son, Samuel, who is here to keep his dad company. I am all by myself, so—
The Speaker The Speaker That means you will be shorter rather than longer. Hon. Curtis L. Dickins on: It is going to be just enough time, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Let me begin by thanking my honourable colleagues for their contributions to the debate today. Mr. Speaker, let me say that last week Friday in delivering my third Budget Statement, I started off by making reference to 2020 being a year …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you hear that alarm in the background? That is reminding me that your 30 minutes is about to run out. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Okay. Or I can ask myself, you know, I use the Now what? to require me to do this job better. So, thank you, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister, for closing us out. And there is no other business thi s eve ning on the Order Paper So, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I thought that we would actually go into committee and then rise to report progress.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. We will rise to report progress, yes. Hon. E. Davi d Burt: Are you chairing, Mr. Speaker, or is the Deputy [Speaker] chairing?
The Speaker The Speaker I am chairing. You can rise— Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman—
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, no, no. You are right. We will move into Committee. So, Deputy, you will take us into Committee, then rise and report progress. And we will come back to the House and take us through the close of the night. House in Committee at 10:5 3 pm [Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker The Deputy is there.
The Chairman Chairman I am here. YOUT H, CULTURE & SPORT Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I now move Heads 71, which would be Youth, Culture and Sport Headquarters; Head 20, Youth, Sport and Recreation; Head 52, Department of Culture, Ministry of Youth, Culture and Sport. Mr. Chairman, I move that the …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Committee rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Are there any objections to this motion? There appear to be none. 614 5 March 2021 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Agree d to. Mr. Speaker. I have a bell, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for that. Members, we are back in the House with all business having been concluded for today. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Monday, March 8. And I am uncertain …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier, I understand that Members have decided it has been a long day and we will see them all on Monday. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, with that thought, that means you all have a nice, pleasant weekend. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker I look forward to seeing you nice and bright and early on Monday morning at ten o’clock. Thank you, Members. Enjoy your weekend.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Good night!
The Speaker The Speaker Good night.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Good night. [At 10:56 pm the House stood adjourned unt il 10:00 am, 8 March 2021]
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