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December 11, 2020

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Dec 11, 2020
Session 2020/2021
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The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. We now want to start the next session for t oday’s sitting, and Ms. Beale will lead us in prayer this morning. PRAYERS [ Prayers read by Ms. Kara Beale, Assistant Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Ms. Beale. The House is now in session. [ Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 4 December 2020 ]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes for the sitting from the 4th of December have been circulated. Are there any omissions, corrections or amendments to be made? There are none. The Minutes are confirmed as printed. [ Minutes of 4 December 2020 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The Speaker The Speaker The announcement this morning is that the Standing and Sessional Select Committees have been assigned. And they are circulated to you by the Shar ePoint. So, Members, you can go on and see the selection of the committees. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are some 11 papers this mor ning. We are going to have our hands full with papers this morning. The first is in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister Ming, would you like to present your paper? Minister, we can see you, but we cannot hear …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD (TOOB) REPORT FOR 2018 TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD (TOOB) REPORT FOR 2019 Hon. Renee Ming: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Treatment of Offenders Board (TOOB) Report for 2018, and the Treatment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister Ming. The next paper is also . . . oh, you did both of them? Hon. Renee Ming: Yes, we combined them. Yes, we did.
The Speaker The Speaker Good. Thank you. The next is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister Wilson, you have about six of them. You can do all six at the same time. PUBLIC HEALTH (COVID- 19 EMERGENCY POWERS) (NO. 3) AMENDMENT (NO. 3) REGU LATIONS 2020 QUARANTINE (COVID -19) (NO. 3) …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next paper this morning is in the name of the Minister of Health [sic] , the next two . Minister, of Works, rather . . . Minister of Works, would you like to do yours?
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. BERMUDA LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND REPORT ON OPERATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEARS ENDING 31 MARCH 2012 –2017 BERMUDA LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND REPORT ON OPERATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEARS ENDING 31 MARCH 2018
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I would like to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Land Development Company Audited Financial Statements and Report on Operations for the f iscal years ending 31 March 2012 –2017; and the Bermuda Land Development Company Audited Financial Statements and Report on …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. And the last report th is morning is in the name of the Minister of Labour. Minister Hayward , would you like to do yours at this time? Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ANNUAL REPORT 2018 –2020 Hon. J ason Hayward: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Department of Financial A ssistance Annual Report 2018– 2020 .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That is the [last] of the Papers and Communications for t his morning. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker There are eight Statements this mor ning. The first is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, would you like to present your State ment? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning everyone and good morning to the people of Bermuda. BERMUDA OCEAN PROSPERITY PROGRAMME — PROGRESS ON IDENTIFYING OCEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY SOLUTIONS Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to update th e Honourable House on the Bermuda Ocean Prosperity Programme …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Madam Attorney General . Attorney G eneral , would you like to present your first Statement? I believe we can proceed with the first one now. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to table the Bill entitled —
The Speaker The Speaker You need to adjust your camera. We hear you, but your camera is on another one of your members. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Okay. I am not very good at this.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member If you just keep talking, I think it will pick you up. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I think if I keep talking, Mr. Speaker, it will pick me up. Is that okay?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I was just wondering if your member was being a ventriloquist because I was hearing her voice that time. [Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Not today, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Continue. CANNABIS LICENSING ACT 2020 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I am pleased to table the Bill entitled the Cannabis Licensing Act 2020 in this Honourable House today. This comprehensive Bill establishes the Cannabis Licensing Authority to ad-vise and assist the Minister responsible for drug pr evention in the regulation …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorney General . Would you like to do your second Statement? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. LEGAL AID OFFICE ANNUAL REPORT 2013 –2019 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons : I rise to update this Honourable House on the work of the Legal Aid Office and lay a copy of the document entitled Annual Report Legal Aid Office, Fiscal Period 2013– 2019, as submi tted to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister, would you like to present your Statement now? TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD REPORT 2018/19 Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to introduce to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Public Works. Minister Burch, would you like to present your Statement at this time?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, yes. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. BLDC AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND REPORTS ON OPERATIONS FOR THE YEARS ENDED 31 MARCH 2012 TO 2018
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I lay before this Honourable House the Bermuda Land Development Company’s Audited Financial Statements and Annual Reports for the years 2012 to 2018. The pur-pose of the BLDC [Bermuda Land Development Company] is to manage or oversee the management of the land entrusted to it generally for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of E ducation. Minister, would you like to put your Statement at this time? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. THE BERMUDA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM — EDUCATION REFORM UPDATE Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, this morning I rise to provide my honourable colleagues with an u p-date on the Government’s commitment to reform the Bermuda Public School System . Mr. Speak er, the overarching drive to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next item on the Order Paper for this morning is the Statement from the Minister of Labour. Minister Hayward, would you like to present your Statement? DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ANNUAL REPORT 2018 –2020 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, this morning I laid the 2018– 2020 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement is that of the Minister of Health. Minister, would you like to put your Stat ement? COVID -19 VACCINE FOR BERMUDA Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appear today to inform this Honourable House of the preliminary plan for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister, for your Stat ement. Members, that brings us to the close of the Statements that were on the Order Paper this mor ning. However, Members, I would like to bring to your attention that th ere will possibly be a need for us to suspend the rule …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker We have two written questions this morning—two Members who have written questions this morning. And both require oral responses. The time now is 11:29, and we will be going to lunch at 12:30 to 2:00. So we have just about an hour —we have an hour to complete it. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, in regard to the first question which the Honourable Minister just asked, if you would inform the Honourable House of the names of the full -time Ministers, that is the question I have in front of me. Myself as the Premier; the …
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader. I am trying to get you unmuted. You are unmuted now. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I only had one question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that is right. It was just a two -part question. It was the same question. It just asked . . . Maybe yo u did not hear it. Full time and part time, list of the names. So you can name the part time. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you. No further ques tion.
The Speaker The Speaker The second question is from MP Dunkley, who has three questions all for oral r esponse. MP, would you put your questions? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, there seems to be some conf usion here. Because when …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I can only go by what is here right now, and they all have the asterisk beside them. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if I may assist as well? I am sorry. I do not know if the Cabinet Secr etary did not inform your offices, but due …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP, the Premi er has indicted that because of ongoing issues this week, they did not get done. But rather than wait until the next sitting, as this is the last sitting today for this session, he can have the written answers provided for you very soon. Hon. Michael …
The Speaker The Speaker That brings us to a c lose of the written questions. We now move on to the questions based on today’s Statements. The first Minis ter who has questions to the Statement this morning is the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, in reference to your Stat ement on Bermuda Ocean [Prosper …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hmm. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, are you avai lable? [No audible response]
The Speaker The Speaker We are going to move on to the next Statement, and then we will come back to the Deputy Premier. Is that okay with you, Honourable Member? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, that is fine.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. The next Statement this morning which has an indication for a question is that from the MP Pearman to the Attorney General. MP Pearman, would you like to put your question? [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you , Mr. Speaker. Can you hear me?
The Speaker The Speaker We can hear you; we do not see you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Can you see me now?
The Speaker The Speaker We see you now. 258 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 1: LEGAL AID OFFICE ANNUAL REPORT 2013 –2019
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you very much, Mr. Speak er. Will the Honourable and Learned Attorney General address —this is [in regard to] the Statement that she gave in relation to the Legal Aid Office at page 3 of the Statement.
Mr. Scott Pearman She indicated that recruitment drives are still underway to fill the posts substantively. And I am quoting here from her Statement: “In the interim, the Legal Aid Office has been staffed, temporarily, by qualified barristers with the professional experience . . .,” et cetera. My question for the Honour able …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Attorney General? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, Member . No, it has not. The posts are vacant, and the staffing by consultants has been taken out of those boards or those vacant posts and paid at that rate. So there has been …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Supplementary, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman When is it anticipated that the temporary consultant will finish his post and a perm anent person will be hired into that role at the Legal Aid Office? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, we actually undertook a recruitment drive, I believe last year or the beginning of this year. …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Scott Pearman New question, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 2: LEGAL AID OFFICE ANNUAL REPORT 2013 –2019
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Will the Honourable and Learned Minister . . . at pages 4 and 5 of your Statement you deal with the budgetary items and constraints in r elation to the budget generally. Has the Honourable and Learned Minister —has the department more broadly consi dered ways to increase …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman In respect of the consideration of those court fees, has specific consideration been gi ven to tiered fees that are related to the value of parti cular claims? By way of example, if a claim was worth several million dollars, it would have a larger fee. Has consideration been given …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary. Go ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Can the Honourable and Learned Minister perhaps give a timeframe for when we can expect an outcome on the consideration of Bermuda House of Assembly measures to generate further revenue for the court systems? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I can only say that it is topical and it is …
The Speaker The Speaker New question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker You have two supplementaries. You used two. You have a new question.
Mr. Scott Pearman Oh, I thought it was my first supplementary to my second question. The Spe aker: No, no, that was your second suppl ementary.
Mr. Scott Pearman All right.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question. QUESTION 3: LEGAL AID OFFICE ANNUAL REPORT 2013 –2019
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, my third question is simply this: In terms of providing this information, will the Honourable and Learned Minister come back to the House of Assembly and update the House in this r espect at some point prior to April? Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Quite frankly, I do expect the …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. I thank the Honour able and Learned Minister for her answers to the questions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Attorney General, that was the only Member who had put forth questions for you. We now are back to Deputy Premier. I see you on the screen. Are you available to answer your questions now? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Opposition Leader, would you like to put your question to the Deputy Premier? [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Let us see if we can unmute you. Okay. It is to you now. Whoops, you are muted again. [Laughter] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Do not touch.
The Speaker The Speaker I can hear you now. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA O CEAN PROSPERITY PROGRAMME —PROGRESS ON IDENTIFYING OCEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY SOLUTIONS Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: As we all know, the Marine Spatial Plan is a marine usage plan and conservation plan. Can the Minister tell us why the Waitt Institute was …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, this was a subject of Ministerial Statements previously. And all the Member needs to do is go back in the record and find my Statements about the announcement of the Waitt Foundation being a part. But I think the Honourable Member knows …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay, but the Honourable Member knows the history of this, so his question is rather redundant —[with] all due respect, Mr. Speaker. 260 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you. T hank you, Deputy Premier. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker The Member has a right to get up if he can relate it to the Statement that is put today. Member, do you have a supplementary or a new question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Just a comment on his comment. I am asking the question so the community knows, …
The Speaker The Speaker No further question? Hon. Walter H. Roban: It is all in the public record , Mr. Speaker. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, we are not going to have a back -and-forth. Do you have any further questions? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker A new question or a supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: It is a new question.
The Speaker The Speaker Your second question. QUESTION 2: BERMUDA OCEAN PROSPERITY PRO GRAMME —PROGRESS ON IDENTIFYING OCEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY SOLUTIONS Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: My second question: The Minister speaks to the Blue Strategy. To me, a strat egy is part of a plan. So can the Minister provide details of where …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Minister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am just getting my video started again. Sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Walter H. Roban: That t erm is his term; that is not the term that was referenced in my Statement. My Statement referenced the Blue Economy. That is the only term that we have used. And to develop the Blue Economy, as my Statement says (so perhaps the …
The Speaker The Speaker Is this a supplementary or a n ew que stion? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: And so will Waitt Institute be involved in the development in the Marine Ec onomic Development Plans?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W alter H. Roban: The name is pronounced wait, not Wyatt. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Okay. I take your correction. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. They have pledged to work with Bermuda for the long term to make sure that this and our Blue Economy Strategy is …
The Speaker The Speaker Suppl ementary. Yes, this is your second supp. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. So for the marine economy, have they also engaged with us at no cost? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Waitt’s engagement, as I have said before— and the Honourable Member can go back in the Hous e …
The Speaker The Speaker Any further questions? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No. I do not have any fu rther questions.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, there is another Member who has questions for you. MP Dunkley, would you like to put your questions to the Minister? QUESTION 1: BERMUDA OCEAN PROSPERITY PROGRAMME —PROGRESS ON IDENTIFYING OCE AN RENEWABLE ENERGY SOLUTIONS Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Honourable Minister: …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Put your first suppl ementary. SUPPLEMEN TARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: That is correct. Just rewording the question in another way. So, to the Honourable Minister: What were the pa-rameters that enabled offshore wind to be the most feasible? How did it get that ranking? I am aware of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Second supplementary,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. In regard to the feasibility studies fo r these technologies, was the cost versus the benefit weighed in as an important factor in the feasibility? 262 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Hon. Michael H. …
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay. I can give an example—
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you can move on. He is ready to put his second question. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay, okay. But I can give an example which would be helpful. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am happy to hear the example, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay. For instance, wind is obviously a proven, proven, proven technology. But if we were to go the way of deploying wind and, you know, as I mentioned, that will be stationary and where the pylon would be implanted into the seabed, that will …
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to put your second question now? QUESTION 2: BERMUDA OCEAN PROSPERITY PROGRAMME —PROGRE SS ON IDENTIFYING OCEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY SOLUTIONS Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in regard to floating solar, it appears we still have plenty of opportunity for solar on the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Actually, yes, terrestrial solar does come out slightly less costly than floating solar only because—and the only difference in contrast is that the apparatus that you would create to have the solar floating is a lot more costly than the apparatus you would need to …
The Speaker The Speaker Is there a supplementary or a new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I have finished on this Statement, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, Deputy Premier, those are the questions for you on your Statement. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you very much.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. The next Statement that has questions this morning is the Statement by the Minister for National Security. Minister, you have a question from MP Dunkley. MP, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD REPORT 2018/19 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Speaker, the Member is correct. It does say that “the Board shall, as soon as possible after the 31st day of January in any year, make to the Minister a report on the exercise and perfor-mance” of the functions of the board. I do not …
The Speaker The Speaker That will be your first supplementary, yes? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Correct, Mr. Speaker. At the bottom of the page, the Minister goes on to say, “The responsibilities of the Board include being available to inmates who wish to discuss any ongoing concerns . . . .” Can the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker MP, that probably should be a new question because your first question was why it was being delayed. This now moves on to a new subject, but you used that as a supplementary. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: If you so choose, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD REPORT 2018/19 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Second question. So can the Honourable Minister please provide an overview of the ongoing concerns that the inmates have raised with the board?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Sure. Further in the Statement we speak to [the fact that] there were general concerns around the physical facilities. And I think it actually says on the fifth page of the report that at one of these particular facil ities that is the major concern, the …
The Speaker The Speaker First supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary. The Spe aker: Yes. Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: On page 2, the Honour able Minister says that “throughout 2018, there were many breaches of the perimeters . . .” (in the facilities) “including an escalation in both inmate …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Speaker, I think it goes on further in the Ministerial Statement to say that there are some items that are being rectified. But items such as what the facility —and I think I spoke about that in the Statement as well —and the fact of …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, thank you. Last question.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question. Yes. QUESTION 3: TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD REPORT 2018/19 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On page 3, the Honourable Minister refers to ([in] the third paragraph) “the success rate for the pr ogramme remains positive and the board commends the Right Living House staff on …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary. 264 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Spe aker: Put your supplementary, your first supplementary on this question. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker. In general, in regard to the prison’s security breaches, is the …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary or — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, sir. I am finished, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Honourable Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Supplementary to that question.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary from Member Jackson. Put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Would the Honourable Minister please provide some update on how better to secure the cell phone usage within the correctional facility?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Renee Ming: Mr. Speaker, I did not hear the last part.
The Speaker The Speaker I think the question basically was, in the report you made reference to one of the offences that seemed to take place in the prison was the use of cell phones or cell phone parts members were taken to court with. The question is, What can be done to tighten …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No supplementary? Good. Minister, that brings us to the end of questions for your Statement this morning. The next Statement that has questions is the Statement by the Minister of Education. Mr. Opposition Leader, would you like to put your question to the Minister of Education? QUESTION 1: …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minist er. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, that commi ttee has been meeting once a week for approximately the last. . . since about a week after the election. But I will have to confirm the exact number of meetings.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Can he—
The Speaker The Speaker A supplementary or a new question? SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: A supplementary. Can he name the members of the committee? He has given the positions, but I want the names of the individuals. Hon. D iallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I have given that there are members …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Do you have a supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: That is correct.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Go ahead. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Minister had said that they had been meeting every week basically since the election. What have they achieved to date? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, the team is being charged with looking at and doing the research on what …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. A new question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, new question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: THE BERMUDA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM —EDUCATION REFORM UPDATE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Mi nisterial Statement about the Learning First Programme. How does the learning programme dovetail with the Education Plan 2022? And which priority does it fulfil? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The Learning First …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker First supplementary. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplemental, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. N. H. Cole Simons : The Minister indicated that there would be more public meetings and more me mbers, 60 members, involved in gathering the information. Is this a duplication of the public meetings that we have and the information that we secured from the Plan 2022? …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Supplemental. Why is that—
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplemental.. Go ahead. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: So what is the difference? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The difference is Pl an 2022 was something that was created to develop a strategy moving forward and to talk about the things that the Bermuda public wanted to see within …
The Speaker The Speaker New question? New question? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No. I am finished, thanks .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, you also have questions from MP Jackson. MP Jackson, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: THE BERMUDA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM —EDUCATION REFORM UPDATE
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [I have] very short questions. Would the Ho nourable Minister please provide some insight to the independence of the Education Authority? 266 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Once the committee finis hes its deliberations and presents …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Your second supplementary, rather?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No, I have a second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question, yes. Go ahead. QUESTION 2: THE BERMUDA PUBL IC SCHOOL SYSTEM —EDUCATION REFORM UPDATE
Ms. Susan E. Jackson My second question is, Gi ven that there seems within this Ministerial Statement quite a few expenses in the reform, I am just wondering what is being done to prepare to find the money to pay f or the renovations and other costs involved in the overall reform? Hon. Diallo …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a final question.
The Speaker The Speaker Question, yes. QUESTION 3: THE BERMUDA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM —EDUCATION REFORM UPDATE
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Given that you mentioned COVID -19 in your Ministerial Statement, I am curi ous: What programmes, especially from a digital perspec-tive, will be formally introduced into our future educ ation reform to allow for what could potentially be a longer -term remote online learning environment? And what is being done …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And you asked all three of your questions, so thank you, Member. Minister, those would end the questions for you. We now move on to the next Statement. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Minister who has questions this morning is Minister Hayward. The Member who would like to put a question to you in reference to your Statement this morning [is] MP Richardson. Would you like to put your question?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Go ahead. QUESTION 1: DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ANNUAL REPORT 2018 –2020
Mr. Jarion Richardson Would the Honourable Min ister inform this Honourable House . . . pursuant to a statement he said, “This is an exercise used to per-suade offenders to commit to reimbursing the public purse.” He was talking about outstanding fees or outstanding overpayments that have been detected by the Department of …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: So for individuals, when they have been detected, somet imes they are removed from the system for a period of time, depending on the offence. There is also prosecution that takes place through the Attorney General’s Chambers where we attempt to get money back from individuals. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Well, no. New question,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker New question. Go ahead. QUESTION 2: DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ANNUAL REPORT 2018 –2020
Mr. Jarion Richardson And thank you, Honourable Minister. I noted in the annual report and in your Statement that there are overpayments of $413,000 currently owed to the government. And given t he current economic climate, are you intending to pursue collection of those outstanding fees? Hon. Jason Hayward: Certainly. Collection of overpayments …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Honourable Mi nister.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Jarion Richardson None from me, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you for your questions. Minister, this is the end of questions for you. The next Statement that has questions this morning is that made by the Minister of Health this morning. Minister Wilson, MP Dunkley has questions for you. MP, would you like to put your question now? …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker, supplementary. On page 6, the Honourable Minister talks about vaccines for travel. Does the Minister anticipate that we will have to be vaccinated for COVI D-19 to be able to travel?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes. The Statement does also go on to speak to that. The IATA [International Air Transport Associ ation] is ind icating that they will not allow for intern ational air travel unless the p erson is able to confirm by virtue of their having a …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or a new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: New question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Go ahead. 268 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: COVID -19 VACCINE FOR BERMUDA Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, second question, Mr. Speaker. And this is now on page 2 of the Honourable Minister’s Statement. The Honourable Minister talks about the Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, Mr. Speaker. That deals specifically with the cold chain process, which we have been intimately involved in. I think that Honourable Members might have seen . . . .I believe it was United Airways that was actually one of the first airlines as sisting …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. A supplementary or a new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker First supplementary. Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: But in regard to the shelf life of the vaccine, is there any know n way at this time that the applicant will be able to be aware that the vaccination has gone bad or the shelf life has expired because …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: I do not have that answer. I understand th e shelf life . . . I believe . . . I do not have that information, Mr. Speaker. But I will undertake to provide that to this Honourable Member.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. I ask that question, and I appreciate the answer, because depending on various temperatures stored, the shelf life is changed. So I think it is critical that we —
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister indicated she will get the information for you. She does not have it right at hand. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank y ou, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Third question or second suppl emental? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Third question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3: COVID -19 VACCINE FOR BERMUDA Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: In regard to the vaccine, the Minister has mentioned that 9,000 doses will be available from Pfizer and that 20 per cent of our pop ulation will be covered by doses from the COVAX facil ity. So assuming, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As my Statem ent indicates, we would be looking towards a minimal of 60 per cent of our population to be vaccinated.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker. So based on that, is the Minister comfortable that we can access more of the vaccine in a relatively rapid period of time after the 9,000 are used and the 20 per cent are used? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Is there a second supplement ary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister’s response.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That brings us to a close of the Question P eriod. I note that it is now 12:20. And so we still have 10 minutes left for Question Per iod and we want to carry that over to the additional Statement that will come later on today. Depending …
The Speaker The Speaker With that said, it is 10 minutes [before] 12:30, which is 9 minutes left now. We can start the Congratulatory and/or Obituary Speeches now, and we will break at 12:30 and come back and continue it. Would any Member wish to speak to the congratulations or obituary statements at this …
The Speaker The Speaker Sounds like the Madam Attorney General. Madam Attorney General, you have three minutes. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to send congratulations to Ari ana Caines. Ariana is a young barrister who is the daughter of Tina Evans and the granddaughter of Dame Lois -Browne …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorney General. Does any other Member want to make a contribution at this time?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson, you have your three minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to send condolences to the family and friends of Gloria Pearman. She was an educator, and she was very much a community participant and activist. And she had spent a number of years at the Port Royal Primary School, which was where my …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. It should also be noted that she was the wife of a former Member of this Chamber. She was the wife of Mr. Colin Pearman. And I add my condolences that are being expressed to the family. Does any other Member wish to—
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker. 270 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Mr. Famous, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I would like to give condolences to my cousin’s family, Mr. [E dmund] Sinclair Philpott. I have country cousins, too,
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Associate me, Brother Famous.
The Speaker The Speaker We get you there, yes.
Mr. Christopher Famous They were White Hill, but the Philpotts are r elated to the Andersons, the Halls — they are all related up there.
Mr. Christopher Famous But he was a master m echanic. More importantly, he was a loving husband of Laverne, father to Shaun and Shannon, three grandchildren. He was a mas ter mechanic. And he was a sports fan of the Mets. I do not know why. I do not know why he was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP De Silva, is that you? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We hear you, but do not see you. You have your three minutes. There you go; we see you now. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would certainly like to be ass ociated with the condolences to Sinclair Philpott, whom I had the …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So not only did I have the pleasure of working with Sinclair for that period of time, but we also spent many nights, Mr. Speaker — you will remember the o ld Half and Half up at Sout hampton Princess. Ritchie used to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. And again I would like to add condolences to the Philpott family.
Ms. Crystal Caesar Mr. Speaker, can MP Caesar be added to those, please?
The Speaker The Speaker MP Caesar would like to have [her] condolences added to the Philpott family as well.
Ms. Crystal Caesar Yes, please.
The Speaker The Speaker It has been noted. Does any other Member wish to make their contribution?
The Speaker The Speaker It is Ms. Wade -Simmons [sic], MP Wade -Simmons [sic].
The Speaker The Speaker Simmons -Wade, yes. You have your three minutes, and then we will break for lunch.
Mrs. I anthia Simmons -Wade I would like to assoc iate myself with the condolences made to the family of the late Gloria Pearman. As you know, I too am from Somerset.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade And we were certainly very connected to the family . And my condolences especially to her husband Colin Pearman. I would also like to send congratulations to Miss Thang on her Miracles for Christmas project. Bermuda House of Assembly Basically, she asks individuals in the community to nominate seniors and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And with that, we will break for lunch at this time.
Mr. Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban premier Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Is it the Deputy Premier? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. I wish to move that we adjourn until 2:00 pm.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No objections to that. The House stands adjourned for lunch until 2:00 pm. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Member s. It is now 2:00 pm and we can resume the House after our lunch break. When we broke for lunch, we were in the process of doing the condolences and congratulation remarks. Would any other Member wish to speak? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I will …
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have your three minutes. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES [Continuation thereof] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to start by associating myself with [the remarks about] Mi ss Ariana Caines. She is treading her own path with her legal career. I met …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Speaker, I would just like birthday wishes to go out to —
The Speaker The Speaker Can we see you in the camera? MP Campbell, that is you?
Mr. Vance Campbell Yes, that is right.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Vance Campbell I will not need three minutes, Mr. Speaker. I just wish birthday wishes to go out to Mr. John Paris who went 85 on Monday and Fanny Moniz who went 88 yesterday, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, MP Tyrrell, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We saw you the first, you have gone off the camera right now, you were on . You are back on. We see you and hear you. 272 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I beg …
The Speaker The Speaker You may need to get a little closer to your microphone.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell All right. [INAUDIBLE ]
The Speaker The Speaker We are losing you . . . we are probably losing m ore than what we are hearing.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Sorry, Mr. Speaker, I do not know what is happening.
The Speaker The Speaker Your picture is fine, it is just the volume . . . your audio is giving us a problem.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And it is at a very accelerated speed, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Can you hear me now, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker No, we are still not catching up your audio. Let us try somebody else while you work that out, how is that? Does any other Member want to speak in this moment? We can come back to Mr. Tyrrell.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Certainly, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier, you have your three minutes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to give condolences to a neighbour of mine that is actu ally right next door to me, Mr. Sewell, in St. George’s. I associate Cole Simons as calling out as well. This was a man who I grew up, actually, with his kids …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) Swan Associate me.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I associate Mr. Swan as well. I am sure he would know him well as well —Kim Swan, the Honourable Member from constituency 2. And a large family, a very close family. In fact, those of us who know, like MP S wan and the likes, all family living on …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, Honourable Member, thank you. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) Swan Mr. Sp eaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MP Swan. You have your three minutes. We hear you, we do not see you yet.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) Swan Yes, I have got my video on.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, we see you now. Your three minutes is ticking.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) Swan Yes, Mr. S peaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated as I did, and I appreciate MP Cannonier associating me, but just to extend deepest condolences to the family of Mr. Alfred Sewell. I also, like the Honourable Member, know his children very, very well an d am …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Swan. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, can I try again?
The Speaker The Speaker MP Tyrrell, would you like to try again?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Can you hear me now, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker It is vaguely about the same. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell: Okay, Mr. Speaker. I’ll pass. I’ll pass.
The Speaker The Speaker We see you clear, it is just the audio for some reason was breaking up.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we hear you clear that time.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, I do apologise. As I was saying, Mr. Speaker, I thank you very much for the indulgence. I just want to express my own condolences to the family of Ms. [ INAUDIBLE ] Scott, especially her son Andre [INAUDIBLE]. I also wish to take the opportunity, to associate …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Yes, I thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? No other Member? We will now move on to the Orders of the Day. The first Order on today is the Submarine Com munications Cables (Regulatory A uthority Fees) Reg ulations 2020 in the name of the Deputy Premier. The Clerk: …
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, sorry, sorry, I was jumping ahead that time. I thought we did that one, Government Bills to be introduced. Excuse me for that. I was racing that time because all the other matters, there was nothing to be done, other than to introduce one Government Bill. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS …
The Speaker The Speaker That Government Bill is in the name of the Attorney General. Honourable Member would you like to introduce your Bill? Madam Attorney General. FIRST READING CANNABIS LICENSING ACT 2020 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Yes, Mr. Speaker, apologies. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Attorney General. There are no other Bills to be introduced. Now we can move on to the Orders of the Day. And the first item under consideration today is the Submarine Communications Cables (Regulatory Authority Fees) Regulations 2020 in the name of the Minister of Home Affairs …
The Speaker The Speaker Is there any objection? No objections. Continue, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am presenting for consideration and approval the regulations entitled Submarine Communications Cables (Regulatory A uthority Fees) Regulations 2020 and the Electronic Communications (Regulatory Authority Fees) Amendment Regulations 2020 . Mr. Speaker, I am pl eased …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Christopher Famous Are you hearing me?
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Are you hearing me, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Well, y ou are nice and clear today because we notice you came more west than you nor-mally are. So, that is understandable why you are clearer today, and you have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous I cannot wait until Parli ament is televised. [Laughter]
Mr. Ch ristopher Famous Mr. Speaker, good afternoon. I wish to congratulate the Minister, his Mini stry, and the other associated body, the Bermuda D evelopment Agency. Mr. Speaker, often we are being chided that we are not moving fast enough to diversify the ec onomy or that we are only using the one …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Opposition Leader. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker You have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: We on this side support these regulations. I would just like to respond to the Honourable Member who just spoke. If I recall, and he may not have been around then, that we— the OBA — and as far back as …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Member? Minister, would you like to respond?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member [These are] recommended by the BDA, thes e are processing fees and are coming. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, just trying to get the technology in order, Mr. Speaker. I wish to thank all the Members who have spoken in support of the legislation. And thank you to the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker One quick question. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Unless there is someone who has a q uestion.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that is what I was trying to say, before you move. If any other Honourable Members want to make . . . no, we do not at this time, because you are . . . we did not go into Committee, we are just in the House with it. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is correct.
The Speaker The Speaker Right. So, there is no other comment. If we were in Committee, we could go back and forth. Hon. Wal ter H. Roban: You are my direction, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, the question that I have here, the second motion, that was actually tied into this one? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, I can . . . [Crosstalk] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I wil l just say yes.
The Speaker The Speaker It could have possibly gotten tied t ogether. You probably could have dealt with them both Bermuda House of Assembly together, but they were not. So, just do the second one now. [Is there any] objection to the Minister moving on? No objections. [Moti on carried: Draft Regulations entitled the …
The Speaker The Speaker So, do the second one now, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Spe aker. My brief comments did encompass both because they essentially are a reflection of each other.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Right. Hon. Walter H. Roban: The fee structures, essentia lly, will be in the same . . . operate together. So, my brief, in all of its e ssence, will be the same for the next piece of legislation. [Crosstalk] Hon. Walter H. Roban: All I have to do …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, here is the . . . I was listening to your brief and that is what was throwing me off a little. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, yes. I understand that and—
The Speaker The Speaker You could have introduced them — Hon. Walter H. Roban: —I apologise if I provided any confusion, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We could have introduced them at the same time and dealt with them. In this regard, being they were not done, but your brief has spoken to both of them, c orrect? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker So, just move the second one so it is at least moved if anyone wants to make comments, but the brief does not need to be repeated. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, Mr. Speaker, if you will recall, at the beginning of my brief, I did introduce them both at …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Well — Hon. Walter H. Roban: I did, like, speak to them in my brief.
The Speaker The Speaker What happened there is it was not acknowledged by my office to me that both were going to be moved at the same time. That’s where it gets— Hon. Walter H. Roban: Understood.
The Speaker The Speaker So, we did not acknowledge that you were going to move both, but after it got moved and I was listening to your brief and it sounded like your brief was covering both of them. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Walter H. Roban: And I apologise for any confusion. So, I will go forth now, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Just for the sake of clarity, if any Member wishes to speak to the second one, it is now open for conversation. You have moved it . . . and then move it and then someone can just, if they would like to— Hon. Walter H. Roban: I will just …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. 278 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: So, I am happy to entertain any comments of any Members on this second measure, Mr. Speaker, at this time.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a comment on the second matter?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I would like to make a comment.
The Speaker The Speaker [Go ahead] .
Mr. Christ opher Famous I just want to, again, thank the Ministry for their work. Often people who work at Ministries get overlooked, so, again, I want to thank those, especially PS Rozy Azhar and the two ladies up front —Miss Robinson and Miss Danielle— and all other s who have helped to craft …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Any other Member? No other Member. Minister, just do [what ] you need to do and we will move on. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. One short comment, Mr. Speaker, just for the benefit of my colleagues and for the members of the public. The first …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that message being sent to the Governor —for both matters? There are no objections, so, both matters are now passed. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. [Motion carried: Draft Regulations entitled Electronic Communications (Regulatory Authority Fees) Amendment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We now move on to [Order] No. 3, which is the Government Fees Amendment (No. 2) Regul ations 2020 in the name of the Minist er of Finance. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. DRAFT REGULATIONS GOVERNMENT FEES AMENDMENT (NO. 2) REGULATIONS 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, with the Governor’s recommendatio n in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I move that consideration be given to the draft Regulations ent itled Government Fees Amendment (No. 2) Regul ations …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Regulations entitled Government Fees Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 2020 be now read the second time. Mr. Speaker, these fees are new fees being added to Head 25 and Head 73A of …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections. Does any other Member wish to make a comment? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As stated previously, under the Deputy Premier’s comments, we have no objection to these Reg ulations. They have been spoken to previously. Just from an operational …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Member? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, is that you? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, would you like to make contribution? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I would just like to thank the Honourable Minister of Fin ance, the Member for constituency 21, for bringing this legislation. It is also a part of the picture and a part of the tapestry that I brought …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member. Minister of Finance, would you like to wrap us up? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I would like to thank the Honourable Opposition Leader for the questions and the Honourable Deputy [Premier] for his assistance in providing an …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: About the one- time nature of the fee of $412,500.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, I am comfort able with those answers.
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to just move us now to the message to be sent? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Yes, please. Mr. Speaker, I move that the said Draft Regulations be approved and that a suitable message be sent to . . . I guess it is Her Excellency (now) the …
The Speaker The Speaker As of the weekend, I guess it is still “His” ri ght now. Are there any objections to that? No objections. The message will be sent. 280 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: Draft Regulations entitled Gover nment Fees Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 2020 …
The Speaker The Speaker That now moves us on to the fourth item on the Order Paper today, which is the Inves tment Funds Amendment Act 2020, again, in the name of the Minister of Finance. Minister of Finance? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Invest ment …
The Speaker The Speaker Is there any objection to that? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING INVESTMENT FUNDS AMENDMENT ACT 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Bill entitled the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2020 for the consideration of Honourable Members. The Bill seeks to make …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: We have no objections to this legislation. As the Minister said, it is administrative in nature and a lot of the amendments, I thought, should have been done way before now. So, I am delighted that they have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I echo the Honourable Opposition Leader’s comments in that we support this. I do, however, have some questions for the Honourable Finance Minister. And for the purpose of explaining to the listening public, those who do not know, there are about 650 funds in Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? There are no others. Minister, would you like to wrap us up? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Indeed, Mr. Speaker, thank you. In response to the Opposition Leader’ s question I would just remind …
The Speaker The Speaker Move us into Committee, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 3:03 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL INVESTMENT FUNDS AMENDMENT ACT 2020
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Investment Funds Amendment Act 2020 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, this Bill seeks to amend the Investment Funds Act 2006 to, amongst other things, …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 1 provides a title for this Bill. Clause 2 seeks to amend section 2 of the Act in the definition of “company fund” to include an incorBermuda House of Assembly porated segregated account and an incorporated segregated accounts company and, as such, are defined …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speaker s to clauses 1 through 8? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Hang on. [I have a] comment on clause 8.
The Chairman Chairman We recognise the Leader of the O pposition, the Honourable Cole Simons. Mr. Simons, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I know historically when we appointed a new director, a new officer, of the fund, the BMA would basically have to approve of such ap-pointment. And if …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister, do you want to move clauses 1 through 8? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Sure, I will come back to clause 8. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 8 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that c lauses 1 through 8 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 8 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I am advised that the spirit behind the registrar requirement is to ensure …
The Chairman Chairman Are you satisfied, Opposition Leader? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes. 284 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Okay. Continue, Minister.
Mr. Jarion Richardson I am sorry. Hon. Cur tis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move clauses —
Mr. Jarion Richardson I am sorry, Mr. Chairman. Could the Finance Minister just read that advice back again as it relates to the appointment of the registrar? I think he said it was corporate service prov iders he mentioned. I just want to be clear. Thank you. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: The spirit …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Honourable F inance Minister. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman You are welcome, Honourable Member. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, clause 9 seeks to amend section 8C to align—
The Chairman Chairman One second, Minister. What are you doing . . . 9 through— Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Fourteen.
The Chairman Chairman —[clause] 14. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 9 seeks to a mend section 8C to align the annual filing date to within six months of its financial year end in order to accomm odate those funds whose year -end is not the 31 st of December. Clause 10 proposes to amend …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers to clauses 9 through 14? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 9 through 14 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved t hat clauses 9 through 14 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 9 through 14 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that th e Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be r eported to the House as printed. Bermuda House of Assembly Thank you, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary A uthority Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020. The purpose of this Bill is to amend the Fourth Schedule to the Ber-muda Monetary Act 1969 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution to this matter at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: We in the Opposition have no objection to this legislation. We see what is being done. I just question, for the general debate side, these fees that are being implemented to be aligned with the other sector fees within …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Mr. Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. I would ask a question of the Honourable F inance Minister. Last week we passed the Digital A sset Business Amendments that allowed for a Class T licence, and the Class T attracted its own fee. But I see that in this amendment, in the Bermuda Monetary Authority …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would say that the need for these hous ekeeping changes at this time is generally attributable to the comprehensiveness of the three- year review that the BMA conducts …
The Speaker The Speaker Do you want to w ait for it now or do you want to move into Committee and do it Committee?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker, I am happy to receive that information in Committee.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I have the answer. The Class T f ees are provided for cons equen tially in the Digital Asset Business Amendment Act [2020] approved [on 27 November 2020].
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Minister, you can now move us to Committee. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill now be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 3:28 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2 020
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Author ity Amen dment (No. 2) Act 2020 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 1 through …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 1 provides the cit ation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends the Fourth Schedule to the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969 under the following headings: • Digital Asset Business Act 2018, which is amended as a housekeeping measure, to r epeal and replace the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers to this Bill? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Opposition Leader S imons, continue. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: I would like to direct the Minister to page 7, [paragraph 2] (i). It says: “where a licensed undertaking does not carry on the digital asset business activity in accordanc e with paragraph (h) 288 11 December 2020 Official …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Are there any other questions, Mr. Chairman?
The Chairman Chairman Oh, yes, any other speakers? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: As I said in the general debate, I noted there were a number of increases in various classes. So, in principle, what triggered the i ncrease in fees from 3 per c ent all the way up to, in some …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I am wai ting for a real live example for [paragraph 2] (h) and (i). But in the meantime, I will take a stab at answering the most recent question by the Opposition …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I do not have a real live example, but what I would say, based on the advice given me by the technical officers, is the change that the Opposition Leader referenced with respect to [paragraph 2] (h) and (i) —this change …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further comments, questions to the Minister? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none, Minister. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Schedules be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Schedules be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Schedules 1 and 2 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections t o that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Bermuda House of Assembly The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Thank you, Minister. [Motion carried: The Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment (No. …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 3:35 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2020
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 being reported to the House as prin ted? There are none. The Bill has been reported as printed. And that moves us on to the next item on the …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Continue. BILL SECOND READING TAX REFORM COMMISSION AMENDMENT ACT 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Tax Reform Commission Amendment Act 2020 for the consideration of Honourable Mem-bers of this House of Assembly. Honourable Members …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution to this matter at this time? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you very much. We find this piece of legislation very interes ting in that, number one, we support an equitable, effective, efficient and transparent tax system. We also recognise that the current tax structure that we have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? There are none. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker . You know I am going to keep this brief because I . . . that is what I should …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 3:5 2 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL TAX REFORM COMMISSION AMENDMENT ACT 2020
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Tax Reform Commission Amendment Act 2020 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, this Bill seeks to amend section 3 of the Tax Reform Commi ssion …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Opposition Leader, Mr. Simons, continue. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Chairman, given where we stand right now with the COVID, does the Minister think that the six -month period that was imbedded in the initial legislation to get the job done, will that six - month period still …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, what I would say is that the existing legislation provides for a six-month term, but there is the option for the Minister to extend the term if it is deemed necessary. So, we will start with six mon …
The Chairman Chairman No further speakers? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 and 2 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 and 2 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 and 2 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the pre amble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be r eported to the House as prin ted. [Motion carried: The Tax Reform Commission Amendment Act 202 0 was considered by …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 3:56 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE TAX REFORM COMMISSION AMENDMENT ACT 2020
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Members, the Bill entitled the Tax Reform Commission Amendment Act 2020 is being reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections? There are no objections. The Bill has been reported as printed and received. That now moves us on to the next item on the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Transport, I am going to ask you to yield a minute because I have had an indication from the Premier. And Premier, I assume that if you are trying to get my attention that y ou would like to now address your Statement in regard to serious matters …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, I had indicated earlier today at the end of our Statement period and Question Per iBermuda House of Assembly od that there was a possibility there would be a fort hcoming Statement. This is that Statement, and I had indicated then that we had roughly 10 minutes left in …
The Speaker The Speaker Is that agreeable by all? Thank you. Premier, you can start by just requesting the Members to yield to your request for suspension of the rule, Standing Order 14, and we can proceed from there. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 14 Hon. E. Dav id Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker No objections? Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: No objections, Mr. Speaker. [Motion carried: Standing Order 14 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, Premier. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS [Resumption thereof ] COVID -19—THE NEED FOR FURTHER ACTION Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to m ake sure that the Statement has been uploaded as I did not have an opportunity to share directly with the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Mr. Lamb was in the process of trying to put it on our site as soon as you were in the process of delivering i t now. I will just confirm ––it is done. Mr. Lamb has just confirmed that it is on- site. Members, if you go to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Mr. Premier, before you started your Stat ement, I had indicate d that some time had been left in the question- and-answer period this morning and I was going to extend it. Having heard your Statement, I will stick to that by . . . I …
The Speaker The Speaker We had 10 minutes, just over 10 minutes or so left on the clock before, and I had said I was going to round it to 15 minutes. The clock is on now. Would anyone like to put questions? 296 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly …
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. QUESTION PERIOD [Resumption thereof ] QUESTION 1: COVID -19— THE NEED FOR FURTHER ACTION Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I thank the Honourable Premier for his Statement delivered today. Question for the Honourable Prem ier. On page 2, I believe, the Premier says …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I know that in conjunction b etween the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of N ational Security there have been a number of closure notices which have been issued. I know that there were closure notices issued last …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, just one supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Honourable Premier on page 4, I believe now, the second paragraph, you mentioned we run the risk of entering the realm of community transmission and, at that point, we cannot say what Bermuda will encounter. So, we have gone from two clusters to seven …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, we can be assured that we are not at that point at this time because of the various metrics that are done by the WHO definitions. Community transmission is where the health system loses the ability to detect, track, trace and is olate …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member have a question that they would like to put to the Premier at this time?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, I do. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Honourable Member Jackson. QUESTION 1: COVID -19— THE NEED FOR FURTHER ACTION
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. May I ask the Honourable Premier, given the age group of this particul ar spread, are we finding that there are more asymptomatic cases?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. I would not have the specific data at my fingertips for the number of cases that are asymptomatic or not. And so, I am sorry, I would not be able provide that answer to the Honourable Member. But I will undertake …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Do you have a supplementary or a further question? None. Does any other Member wish to put a question to the Premier?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, put your question. QUESTION 1: COVID -19— THE NEED FOR FURTHER ACTION
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, my question is in relation to schools that are open and churc hes. Do they fall under the requirement of the group size of 10? And also, what about businesses, do they need to reduce their sizes of permitted shoppers, et cetera? Thank you. Hon. E. David …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Member, supplementary? No supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary, MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker For the question just asked?
Mr. Scott Pearman About the question just asked.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Premier, you mentioned that the rule of 10, as it were, is for public gatherings. So, would it not also apply to private gatherings? Or can more than 10 gather in a private home? Hon. E. David Burt: I must thank you for that. Public …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplemental, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker A second supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Scot t Pearman Premier, thank you. Just to be clear, if there is to be a private Christmas gathering of family members and friends, it is to be 10 people or fewer, is that correct? Hon. E. David Burt: That would be how I would interpret the laws as they will be published …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. 298 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Honourable Member have a question for the Premier?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier. QUESTION 1: COVID -19— THE NEED FOR FURTHER ACTION
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you very much. Premier, thank you for your time. A question: If you go online to book an appoint ment, it says that you are not going to be able to get that until after D ecember 22nd or thereabouts. Considering the exponential number of concerns and testing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Is there a supplementary or are you good?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Is the Premier in a position to say what he believes to be that number on a daily basis to be tested that would be over the limit of being able to handle? Hon. E. David Burt: Well, let us put it this w ay, on Tuesday . . . …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: And, again, we received 1,800. So, we are far in exc eeding the targets. And it is good. That is a good response to be able to get that and we will have the volume and we will work through the vo lume and we …
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We are right on . . . well, we have got about a minute left in the 15 minutes.
Mr. Scott Pearman MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman. QUESTION 1: COVID -19— THE NEED FOR FURTHER ACTION
Mr. Scott Pearman Premier, you have stated that people must operate to contain the outbreak such as this. Could you assist us with what sort of cleaning is going on in respect of public transportation, buses and ferries and the like? And what is being done to mai ntain contact tracing on those …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. E. David Burt: But can I assist with one thing, MP Pearman? Though contact tracing may be difficult on public trans portation, because I am uncertain if there are sign- in sheets for persons who arrive. What I can say is that contact tracing would be …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Premier, just in terms of contact tracing, can you gi ve us where the current numbers are today in terms of current cases? Hon. E. David Burt: The Minister of Health will be announcing that at our press conference at 5:45 pm. I do not have the numbers from the …
The Speaker The Speaker Any further questions? No further questions. We are right on 46 seconds left on the 15 minutes, so, thank you, Members. Premier, thank you for updating us and we understand the severity of it and I trust the message that will come out of these Chambers, thr ough all who …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? No objections. Minister, continue. BILL SECOND READING MARINE AND PORTS SERVICES ACT 2020 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Speaker, the B ill for consideration is the Marine and Ports Services Act 2020. The Bill makes amendments to the current M arine Board Act 1962, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Speaker. MP Pearman. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Every now and again we come to a massive piece of legislation on our books and take a stab at improving it. In this case, it is the Marine Board Act 1962 , which runs some . . . over 100 pages or over 60 pages …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak?
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member Weeks?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Honourable Member, you have the floor. Good afternoon, sir.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Good afternoon. I would like to start off by thanking the Minister for bringing this legislation and I am speaking wearing a different hat right now, Mr. Speaker, I am currently the Chairman of the Water Safety Council.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks And I want to commend the Minister because, as much as we talk about bringing this legislation into the 21 st century, the Minister knows that my passion is water safety in and around our waters when it comes to our residents’ everyday living. We know that most of our …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a comment?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, MP Tyrrell.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Tyrrell, you sound nice and clear this time, Mr . Tyrrell. I am glad you were able to make that adjustment. Feel free to make a contribution now.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity to speak on this Marine and Ports Services Act 2020. I want to commend the Minister for taking on this challenge of updating an Act that is 58 years old. Let me say that I realise that, as the Opposition Member …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell —and it means Bermuda, “as a reputable marine maritime nation having a prestigious shipping registry and being a world- class tourist dest ination, it is imperative that Bermuda succeeds i n the upcoming IMSAS audit” (that is taking place) “with the highest grades in order to maintain [our] global pos …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Member. Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I now move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You are welcome. You have the floor. House in Committee at 4:54 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL MARINE AND PORTS SERVICES ACT 2020
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Marine and Ports Services Act 2020 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just befor e I go clause by clause I want to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, go right ahead. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: All right. It was asked about the P ort Authority. The Opposition Shadow Mi nister asked about the Port Authority, why does this Bill seemingly give more power to the Minister? It actually does not give more power to the Minister. It …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Clause 1 is the citation for the Bill. Clause 2 provides for the interpretation of the Bill. Clause 3 provides for the application provision for the Bill. T he Bill shall apply to ships, vessels, and boats used for naval or military purposes, or …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Chairman, MP Pearman.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Honourable Minister, I misspoke earlier when I was estimating the length of the Bill, but not by much, it is 52 pages plus Schedules. I do not propose and I am sure you do not wish to go through each and every clause, but I have …
Mr. Scott Pearman No, would you prefer me to go all the way through? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, just to give me time to get some answers —
Mr. Scott Pearman No, that’s fine. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: —at least for the first ones and then we can go from there.
Mr. Scott Pearman With your leave, Mr. Chairman, shall I go through them all?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, sir.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The next question arises from the definition of “Island boat.” That was a point I flagged up in the d ebate. This is relevant for section 93, which we will come to. And section 93 is the “ Arrest without warrant, and breath samples .” It …
The Chairman Chairman You are welcome, sir. [Pause] Hon. W. Lawrence Scot t: I was giving a whole lot of answers, and it is still muted. So the others said . . . and I will deal with the Bermuda Coast Guard. The Bermuda Coast Guard will be responsible and will be taking …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the Honourable Minister for the four answers he has given. If I could just go back to the first of the four answers, and that one only , I think the answer given was that the Royal Bermuda Regiment’s Coast Guard will be taking …
Mr. Scott Pearma n Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is all the questions I have for this section of clauses.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I would like to move clauses 8 through —
The Chairman Chairman Do you want to move clauses 1 through 7 and have them approved? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Sorry. Thank you. Yes. Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 1 through 7.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections to clauses 1 through 7 being approved? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 7 passed.] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 8 through 14.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Chairman, clause 8 provides for the general powers of the Minister which include the power to appoint an official surveyor to ensure conformance with the BSCV Code of Practice and the licensing of Government crews in the case of Government vessels. Clause 9 provides …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers to clauses 8 through 14?
Mr. Scott Pearman None from me, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any — Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Chairman, I —
The Chairman Chairman One second, one second, Minister. Any further speakers to clauses 8 through 14? There appear to be none, Minister, co ntinue. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Chairman, I ask that clauses 8 through 14 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 8 through 14 being approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Minister, continue. [Motion carried: Clauses 8 through 14 passed.] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 15 through …
The Chairman Chairman Clauses 15 through 24. Continue. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Clause 15 prohibits the master or pilot of any ship from entering a ship channel without securing clearance from the Pilot Station or the Bermuda Maritime Operations Centre. Clause 16 prohibits a disabled ship from entering or passing through a ship …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. [Are there] any speakers to clauses 15 through 24?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Honourable Member Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Honourable Minister, when you and I discussed the Bill previous ly, you referenced one of the reasons that this is being overhauled. You used the example of the cost of [Costa] Concordia. Just in respect to clause 16 of the Bill, the restriction on the use of a ship channel …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, will you do likewise? The Opposition Member has agreed. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I will.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you, Honourable Member Pearman. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 15 through 24 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 15 through 24 being approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: C lauses 15 through 24 passed.] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 25 through 69.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Clause 25 provides that on the outbreak of war or any grave national emergency, the Governor may, by proclamation, declare the channel authority to be vested in the Admiralty. Clause 26 provides the Minister with responsibility for the management and care of lighthouses and beacons. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? Honourable Member Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. For those clauses I have five questions for the Honourable Minister. I am happy to put all five toget her if that is the direction of the Chair.
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Starting with clause 32 of the Bill, it is the li ability of an owner or master for navigating without a pilot. I was hopeful that the Honourable Minister could give some examples, given that the earlier sections designated the Minister’s oversight of when boats may enter or …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to go back, I think, to make sure that I have answered all the questions as accurately and as in depth as possible. When we talk about the Costa Concordia, all ships entering …
The Chairman Chairman What clause are you speaking to? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Oh, sorry. I am speaking to clause 38. Sorry.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: [The expression] Dockyard docks [is used so] if there was to be a dock or an extension to the dock that goes outside of the WEDCO jurisdiction, we wanted to ensure that we covered that, so we made it a bit broader just to …
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions?
Mr. Scott Pearman Not in those clauses, Mr. Chai rman. I will let the Honourable Minister off answering why I cannot import a hovercraft. Thank you. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, sorry.
Mr. Scott Pearman No, no. That’s fine. That’s fine.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, let me say, Members. I turned my camera off because the advice was to turn my camera off because they are detecting some problems. So I don’t have it off just for that so . . . Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman I can hear you loud and clear,
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Oh, thank you. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: And to be honest, Shadow Minister Pearman, I did ask that same question when I got that. It is because hovercrafts are deemed to be unsafe vessels.
Mr. Scott Pearman There we are! Thank you, Ho nourable Minister for those answers. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: And Mr. Chairman, I move that the clauses be approved.
The Chairman Chairman What clauses? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: That would be—
The Chairman Chairman —[clauses] 25 through 69. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Correct.
The Chairman Chairman Will you move them then? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I would like to move that clauses 25 through 69 be approved. 310 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Thank you. It has been moved that clauses 25 through 69 be approved. Are there any …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Chairman, c lause 70 empowers the Minister to make regulations controlling and regulating diving. Clause 71 empowers the Minister and the Ports Authority to have general regulation making powers for implementing the Act in relation to their respective functions. Clause 72 prescribes the authority …
The Chairman Chairman Levying recovering or the payment of fares. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Levying. Yes. Sorry. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman I’m sorry, Minister. [We] lost you. Minister, we have lost you. Minister Scott. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Sorry, just having a little bit of technical . . . can you see me now?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Yes. Hon. W. Lawren ce Scott: Okay. Good.
The Chairman Chairman We can see you and hear you. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I think my tablet caught that. Sorry. I was on . . .
The Chairman Chairman [Clause 74]. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Clause 74 provides for the parliamentary scrutiny of regu lations made under the Bill. Subsection (1) provides that regulations made under the Bill for levying, recovering or the payment of fares, dues, fees or other charges, are to be subject to the affirmative resolution …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Chairman, just looking for your guidance. Do I read Schedule 1 provides for the proceedings of the Ports Authority?
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you can, finish it. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Schedule 2 contains consequential amendments. Schedule 3 provides savings and transitional provisions.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. MP Pearman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, with your leave I have two questions arising from clause 73, if I can ask them both together?
The Chairman Chairman Most certainly.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, clause 73 deals with the prevention of air pollution from boats and ships on our territorial waters. That section is a bit vague, if I may respectfully say so. It says that we can prevent “the unnecessary emission of air pollution.” I am just wondering what …
Mr. Scott Pearman That is the first. Excuse me. The second is, it refers thereafter to regulations which are prescribed from time to time and I am just wondering if there are any regulations that are in force at the m oment. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Okay. So, actually, I do have to …
Mr. Scott Pearman If the Honourable Minister wis hes, subject to the Chair’s consent, I can continue with questions while they are considering those. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, please.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Yes.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The next question is for clause 74. That is headed, “ Parliamentary scrutiny of regulations.” There it talks about various practices being brought to Parliament for scrutiny under the affirmative resolution 312 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly procedure and the negative …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Minis ter, we cannot hear you. Do you have your microphone muted? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Sorry, Mr. Chairman. So the question on clause 73 [was], what does that mean in practice? It means that they should meet the international emissions standards. And then with clause 74 . . . …
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, it just seemed that what was being suggested was that if you make any regul ations that you will bring them to Parliament to be scr utinised . That is correct; yes? Sorry, I can’t hear the Honourable Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes. That is correct.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: And then—
Mr. Scott Pearman Sorry, I am just pausing you, if I may, Honourable M inister, there was a second question on clause 73.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Chairman, with your leave?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman I had asked if there were any regulations in force at this moment. I do not know if the Honourable Minister has an answer to that as yet. I think you are on mute again, Honourable Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I am just checking with my technical officers.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Chairman, I am almost done, you will be pleased to k now.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, that’s fine, Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman I know it is a long Bill.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, it is. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: So to answer the second question for clause 73, yes, there are regulations being enforced. They are being enforced by the Maritime Shipping Authority.
Mr. Scott Pearman I’m grateful. Thank you, Honourable Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: So going to—
Mr. Scott Pearman [Clause] 93. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: —[clause] 93 —
Mr. Scott Pearman Clauses 92 and 93. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Sorry. Clause 92, that would put them in line with the Road Traffic Act which covers all. So, the blood alcohol that is for a bus operator would be the same that is for an Island boat.
Mr. Scott Pearman I see. So, it is per missible for a bus operator or a ferry operator to consume alcohol while driving a bus or ferry. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, and it is in line with international maritime operations. [Crosstalk] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Convention requirements, sorry.
Mr. Scott Pearman Right. And a further question also on clauses 92 and 93, you will remember that we discussed this concept of a workboat earlier, at clause 88, and you explained that this was someone doing marine works, I believe. Workboats were doing marine salvage, et cetera. What is the position there? …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member Dunkley. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Sorry about that. So, for clarification, it is not permissible to drink and operate buses or anything like that.
Mr. Scott Pearman So I guess the question th at I was driving at was slightly . . . the same question but from a different angle. If it is not permissible for a bus driver or a ferry driver to consume any alcohol while transporting members of the public on their vehicles, …
Mr. Scott Pearman Right, Honourable Minister. Mr. Chairman, with your leave.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman So Honourable Minister, my question relates speci fically, if you have clause 92(3) before you, we have just established and you have just confirmed to my honourable colleague Mr. Dunkley, that ferry drivers and bus drivers may not consume any alcohol while transporting members of the public, passengers. But this …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful. My last question, with your leave, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman It is clause 96 of the Bill. And Honourable Minister, this talks about the deployment of a public officer to act as a master or engineer outside territorial waters. I am just curious if the Minister can answer what that is about, what that clause is seeking to do. Thank …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: So that is when we have to take our boats overseas to be serviced, or inspected for Lloyds — [Crosstalk; Feedback] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: —of Bermuda. So therefore it is for the technical aspect of that to where they can act as masters.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Chairm an: Thank you, Honourable Member Pearman. Are there any further speakers? Minister, do you want to move the clauses and the Schedules? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I move that clauses 70 through 99 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 70 through 99 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. 314 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: Clauses 70 through 99 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Do you want to move the Schedules? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Schedules be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Schedules be approved, Schedules 1, 2 and 3. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Schedules 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? No objections. Approved. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I move that the Bill be r eported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Members. [Motion carried: The Marine and Ports Services Act …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, thank you, sir. Members, are there any objections to the Marine and Ports Services Act 2020 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. It has been reported and re ceived as printed. That now brings us on to the next item on the Order Paper tonight …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Minister, continue. BILL SECOND READING MERCHANT SHIPPING AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2020 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Bill for consideration is the Merchant Shipping Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020. The Bill makes amendments to the Merchant Shipping …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution to the debate at this time? Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have just gone through an inordinately long Bill and taken up a great deal of the House’s time, so I will try to be far more brief on this one.
The Speaker The Speaker That would be appreciated.
Mr. Scott Pe arman Fortunately, it only goes to 11 clauses, not almost 100. Mr. Speaker, the Opposition is obviously pleased to see any amendment that improves and enhances our reputation as a jurisdiction. The Oppos ition is equally delighted that Bermuda did so well in its mock audit. Nonetheless, our job is to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Pearman. Bermuda House of Assembly Does any other Member wish to speak?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Mr. Tyrrell. You have the floor, Mr. Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you for allowing me to add to this discussion on the Merchant Shipping Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020. Again, I would like to thank the Minister for bringing this legislation. I fully support his efforts in doing so. As stated in the Minister’s brief, Mr. Speaker, the suggested amendments …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Tyrrell. Does any other Member wish to speak to this? Any other Member? No. Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, Mr. Speaker, can you see me or . . .
The Speaker The Speaker I hear you, Minister. I do not necessar ily see you right now. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: What about now, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker All right. I see you now. Minister, would you like to do a wrap- up for us now? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: No, actually, now I would proba bly just move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Actually, do you want to answer any of the questions that were put? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I understand that the same questions are going to be asked in the Committee and I—
The Speaker The Speaker All right . Okay. As we are going to move to Committee now, the Deputy Speaker just called . . . he has got a tec hnical problem and . . . he was trying to get back on. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Okay. So —
The Speaker The Speaker I do not see him right now. Let’s see in a min ute if he responds. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker He is not responding. Is MP Swan available to take us . . . to take the Chair? [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: All right. Well—
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, let me see who from the . . . MP Foggo, would you be available to take the Chair? [Pause] 318 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Okay. MP Tyrrell.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo [INAUDIBLE ] [Crosstalk; Feedback]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Foggo, thank you. MP Foggo. [Feedback]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo [INAUDIBLE ] [Feedback] The Spe aker: No problem. We hear you echoing. You have a feedback there. Okay. MP Tyrrell, we know you were just on. Are you still there? Because you are a Member of the new panel that was released today. Would you be able to assist us?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, I will do my best.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. What you will do, just to help you along as a new Member of the Chair panel, you are basically going to lead us into Committee and once in Committee you will go clause by clause, ask Members who wish to speak, and then you will bring us back …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Members, we are now in—
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are moving into Commi ttee now and MP Tyrrell will lead us through Commi ttee. If the Deputy sorts out his technical issue and wants to come back, he will acknowledge that to you, MP Tyrrell. Thank you. So it is now in the hands of MP Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. House in Committee at 6 :09 pm [Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell , Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL MERCHANT SHIPPING AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2020
The Chairman Chairman [Members], we are now in Committee of the [whole House] for the Merchant Shipping Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 .
Mr. Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott Yes, Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 1 through 11.
The Chairman Chairman Proceed, Minister. Hon. W. Law rence Scott: Yes, thank you. Clause 1 is the citation for the Bill. Clause 2 re- inserts sections 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 and 80A into the principal Act. These provisions deal with inquiries into the fitness and conduct of [seafarers] and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any speakers to clauses 1 through 11?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is Scott Pearman.
The Chairman Chairman MP Pearman, I recognise you.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, we touched on a matter in debate and you have elaborated a bit on your answer, i n respect of clause 2 which deals with the rei nsertion of all of the rules that were repealed eight years ago, and you said just now in your …
The Chairman Chairman Do you have any other questions, Honourable Member?
Mr. Scott Pearman Not on that clause, Honourable Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Okay . Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: If you can go through all the questions because we are passing all the clauses at once.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, okay. I am happy to do so. With your leave, Mr. Chairman. Would you like me to go through all of my quest ions now?
The Chairman Chairman Continue, please.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Clause 3 deals with the definition of “wreck” and introduces into our legislation the wreck recovery procedure that you described. My question is a pract ical one. What is practically going to happen if a ship . . . and pausing for a moment. Clause 4, as we di …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Minister. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When it comes to clause 3, the question about 100 miles out, in reality if a boat is floundering about 100 miles out, it is not going to be a wreck it is going to go straight to the …
Mr. Scott Pearman It was in relation to clauses 5 and 6. Yes, one of the examples of an oil spill. What would be the procedure there? [Pause]
Mr. Scott Pearman Minister, you are on mute. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Oh, sorry. So in regard to clauses 5 and 6, that question. One is that depending on the size of the oil spill and its location. So the hypothetical situation that you gave was an oil spill 100 miles off shore. …
Mr. Scott Pearman There were two questions outstanding, Honourable Minister. One was, what was to be done about the inland intern al water wrecks, you know, Bermuda boats that are currently wrecked on our foreshore and what is being done about that? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Okay. Well, one thing that is being …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Honourable Minister. My final question was just whether you agreed with me that “for other reasons” probably means mi stake? Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: No, “for other reasons” means for other reasons. It could be multiple different reasons that we felt as though at the time it was …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other speakers? Hearing none, I will ask the Minister to move the clauses. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 11 be approved. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chai rman: Is there any objection to that, Members? I hear none. [Motion carried: …
The Chairman Chairman Any objection to that, Members? None. Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I move that the Bill be r eported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Members, the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Thank you. [Motion carried: The Merchant Shipping Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.] House resumed at 6 :27 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Tyrrell for stepping in. I do believe that is the first time you actually had to sit in the Chair. Thank you, sir.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Congratulations.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Bill entitled the Merchant Shipping Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 has been r eported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. The Bill has been reported as printed and r eceived, and that brings that matter to a close. We …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING EMPLOYMENT AMENDMENT (NO. 2 ) ACT 2020 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to introduce the Bill entitled the Employment Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 which seeks to provide a number of reforms …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. J arion Richardson I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP . . . yes, Mr. Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Richardson.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, yes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Minister for bringing this legislation before the House and this effort to moder nise our employment labour laws. Undoubtedly it was a labour of love and it took many hands all pulling in the same direction. To the credit of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member Weeks. Honour able Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Mr. Speaker, thank you. I do not agree with the previous Member because I personally feel that the Minister and the team that have been labouring to bring this legislation into the 21 st century have started out on a good foot. Now, to think that we are going to …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? [Crosstalk]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I would like to say a few words. Another Hon. Member: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson. I think I caught your voice first. Is that c orrect?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I would like to say a few words.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go right ahead.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, as I was reading the Employment Amendment Act, it seemed to me that there was some confusion or som e conflicts in some of the clauses as far as how it would work in real life. And I am looking at this a lot from …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak to this matter? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Tinee Furbert: MP Tinee —Minister Tinee Furbert.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Minister Furbert. Yes. You have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to lend my support for the changes, the amendments to this Bill. Mr. Speaker, we have many employers out there who are not giving employees fair chances, and I believe that this legislation …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak to this matter?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Honourable Member from . . . Honourable Member Simmons.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member Simmons, how are you this evening, sir?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons I am fantastic, sir. Pleasure to speak to you.
The Speaker The Speaker I like that background with all that red in the bac k . . . there you go. [Laughter] Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons: Red for Somerset and red for Labour, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right! All the way around. You got the floor, sir.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you. Mr. Speaker, there was a saying that was going around the Internet a few years ago that said that the existence of child labour laws are a reminder that were it not for laws there are people in this world who would literally exploit children for profit. And …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Point of clarification, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, thank you, Member. Did I hear a comment from another Member? Mr. Jarion R ichardson: Yes, a point of clarification for the last speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Point of clarification? Yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Jarion Richardson —for the Honourable Member. I was just wondering, was he equating our request, or our point that cert ain things are not termed rightly and not written up very well in legislation to be like the Atlantic slave trade?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Mr. Speaker, I would be—
The Speaker The Speaker Member, would you like to respond to that?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons I was expr essing the fact that the narrative and the language and the demeanour is very reflective of the arguments made against every bit of legal changes made to improve the condition of the worker. As Brand Nubian said: Nothing changed, it’s just another sequel The devil’s still [causing] …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Member like to make a contribution as far as participating in this debate? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker. An H on. Member: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to have the opportunity to participate i n this debate, the Employment Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020. Mr. Speaker, as I get into my comments, let me just harp back on some …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? I think Minister Ming had been trying to get in before. Minister Ming, are you still interested in ma king a contribution? Hon. Renee Ming: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Ming, I believe you have the floor now. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is one piece of legislation that in my entire time of being involved in politics I have been extremely passionate about. I know when I joined the Senate in …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: The Minister i s misleading the House even though it may be unintentionally. If she looked at the consolidated laws, she would see that there are many amendments to the Employment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, he is just bringing your attention to a technicality; that there have been amendments. Hon. Renee Ming: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe the essence of my contribution today was there.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Member s?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker No other Members?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Can you hear me, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we can hear you, MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, let me reiterate some things that I heard earlier today during this debate: This legislation is harmful to business. This legislation is going to cause confusion. This legislation is coming at not the best time. This legislation is not executed well. All from the Honourable Member from constituency …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Point of clarification, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of clarification. Point of clar ification, yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Jarion Richardson I think he was referring to my comment harmful to entrepreneurships, start -ups, and small businesses.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Member, he made the clarific ation for you. You can continue.
Mr. Chr istopher Famous Mr. Speaker, as the Honourable Member from constituency 33 said, we have heard this same philosophy for years. We have heard it for centuries. The Honourable Member from consti tuency 10 said that this is going to cost money or tie up administration to report bullying, to report sexual harassment. …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of o rder. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the point of order is that the Honourable Member from constituency 11 is referring to my comment based around the fact that if you do not get the wording right, the clause will …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Member.
Mr. Chri stopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I am really not surprised by what I have heard from those Ho nourable Members on the other side because this is the same party that during their brief tenure had various run-ins with the unions (plural) of Bermuda. Some of the M embers of that same party …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker. 330 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Christopher Famous: Mr. Speaker, it is clear that the workers —
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Scott Pearman Bermuda has had anti -sexual harassment laws for several years. Indeed, decades. It is not new.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Member.
Mr. Christopher Famous I wonder which part of that was employment law. Mr. Speaker, it is clear that the workers of Bermuda have only one party to trust.
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. It in fact is employment law. It is the Human Rights Act 1981, it was specifically targeted to prevent antidiscrimination in the employment context.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, it is not in the Employment Act; hence, we are bringing it now. Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker It has been added to the Employment Act but the point was that it has existed in other legi slation. But continue on.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I am going to go further. You and I and others have been to islands which have no unions. None. Zero. It is not a pretty site. Workers can get instantly dismissed for no reason. They have no job security. They get bullied. They suffer with low wages, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution to this debate at this time? Any other Member?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. S peaker. MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MP Pearman. MP Pearman, you can make your contribution.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to pick up where the last speaker left off. I just jotted down what he was saying, so it is a direct quote, with your leave.
Mr. Scott Pearman He said, “We have to go behind closed doors and sort our business out.” (quote/unquote) Mr. Speaker, I want to take a slightly different approach to this Bill, because it is not so much the content th at I wish to discuss but the overarching aspect of what the Honourable …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. What is your point of order? Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Christopher Famous My point of order, point of clarity if the Member even wants to state that , is—
The Speaker The Speaker Point of clarification .
Mr. Christopher Famous Let no one divide the u nions and the PLP. We will go behind closed doors and sort our business out. It is not your business; it is our business .
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It is the people’s business!
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think ––
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, Member.
Mr. Scott Pearman [At the risk of] irritating, MP Ty rrell, I will suggest that that is not a point of order. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Scott Pearman No, no. MP Tyrrell is the one who does not like the expression “not a point of order.” Anyway, you have a choice. You can go behind closed doors and sort business out, or you can try and legislate with tr ansparency. And let me take a quick detour before …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Walter H. Roban: Clarification. Is the Honour able Member discussing specific clauses of the Bill? Isn’t this the general debate where we discuss the general purpose of the Bill? 332 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly An Hon. Member: …
Mr. Scott Pearman Again, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Member, just be mindful that this is the general debate.
Mr. Scott Pearman It is the general debate and the point I am making is that n ot once but twice in this Bill we find the Statutory Instruments Act bypassed. We find an express attack on parliamentary scrutiny. By not allowing Parliament to reconsider things that the manager of labour relations may …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Walter H. Roban: The Member is referencing specific clauses in the Bill and we are in the general debate. Those are points he can r aise during the clause by clause in Committee, certainly. If he has questions about transparency or the lawfulness …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I will press on with the po int I am making in debate— as I believe I am entitled to do —which is that this is a bad idea, and it makes for bad law because it is removing parliamentary scrutiny from decisions by the manager …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I defer to the Deputy.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Deputy. Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the opportunity to participate in this debate on this legislation. Much has been said already on which I will not go back over in any in- depth way because certai nly Members of the Government have made …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker, the Member seems to be muted. Another Hon. Member: The Deputy muted himself. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I did not know I had done that. Sorry about that. Thank you, Members, for pointing that out. The body of this legislation represents a long, long effort that goes back …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Would any other Member like to speak on this matter? Would any other Member?
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan. Is that you?
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am in a fixed location now. Thank you very much. I appreciate the Minister bringing the E mployment Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 today. And, Mr. Speaker, it is always the time to do the right thing. There is never a wrong time to do …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution to this debate? No other Member. Minister, would you like to wrap us up and take us to C ommittee? 336 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: Good evening …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I am somewhat disappointed in terms of how the conversation has been framed tonight around what we are doing here. Because it almost seems —I heard some Members talking about this is a burden on employers. What we are aiming to do is increase …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy, are you connected? It is good to see you there again. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I am connected back up, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker All right . Deputy, will you take us into Committee? House in Committee at 8:14 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL EMPLOYMENT AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2020
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Employment Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 . Minister Hayward, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, this B ill seeks to amend the Employment Act 2000 (the principal Act) …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Clause 1 is the citation of the Bill. Clause 2 amends section 3 of the principal Act by inserting new definitions. Clause 3 amends section 4 of the principal Act to enable the Labour Relations Manager to issue guidance for the purposes of determining whether …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? [Crosstalk]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker —Mr. Pearman, I am sorry.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Pearman, continue.
The Chairman Chairman Richardson! I am sorry. I thought you said Pearman. 338 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jarion Richardson: Yes. I would like to bring to the Minister’s attention clause 3(a) as it relates to [proposed subsection (2A)] “(2A) For the purposes of determining . . …
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Chairman. (MP Pearman.)
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. My questions to the Minister relate to clause 3. I spoke in the debate, Honourable Minister, about the issuing of guidance. And I flagged up the fact that guidance once issued would not be subject to parliamentary scrutiny. When the Honour able Minister responded in the debate, his answer …
The Chairman Chairman Point of order. POINT O F ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Jason Hayward: The Member is misleading the House. I am not operating on any assumption that an independent contractor is bad.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you for the clarification from the Honourable Minister. The question then i s, What is wrong with being an independent contractor? Because there are multiple occasions where it is a great benefit b eing self-employed. For example, taxi drivers. They get their own time, they set their own hours, …
Mr. Scott Pearman Oh, I understand there is a point of order.
The Chairman Chairman Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes. The Member is misleading the House. The intention of the legislative change is not to shoehorn anybody into becoming an emplo yee.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, one second. Mr. Pearman, I have given you guys —you Honourable Members some leeway. You really should be talking to the clause and what is wrong with it.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman You have put in a lot of commentary.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful, and I had completed the point.
The Chairman Chairman Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman And I would be grateful for an answer on the question as to why guidance issued by the manager would not come back to the House in the normal way. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Minister, do you want to answer or take some more questions? Hon. Jason Hayward: I can answer the questions that have been provided thus far. The C hairman: Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: We are not against independent contractors. The legislation actually provides for independent contractors to upgrade in …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there a ny further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Chairman. MP Pearman.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, the question I posed relates to clause 3[(b), which inserts new] subsection (5). And subsection (5) excludes parliamentary scrut iny. It says, “Section 6 of the Statutory Instruments Act 1977 shall not apply to any guidance issued or r evised under this section.” And my question, …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman MP Pearman. Honourable Minister, if you think it is just a matter of allowing flexibility for the manager, would you agree that the guidance can then come to the House, and that [clause 3(b) inserting new] subsection (5) can be struck from the Bill?
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I do not agree. I thi nk the course of action that the Government has taken is the correct course of action. And we have been advised that we are on good footing with doing things this way.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? No further speakers. Minister, do you want to mov e those clauses? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 6 through 11.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. But let us approve clauses 1 through 5 first. Hon. Jason Hayward: I move that clauses 1 through 5 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been m oved that clauses 1 through 5 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 5 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Now you want to do clauses 6 through 11, you said? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 6 through 11.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Clause 6 amends section 9 of the principal Act to provide that where an employer and employee agree that the provisions of overtime pay or time in lieu for hours worked in excess of 40 hours per week is not to apply, that agreement must …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Chairman, MP Richardson.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, and I thank the Honourable Minister . Honourable Minister, at clause 7, at [proposed section] 10B(1) in the definition of “bullying,” I am sure the intent, or I stand to be advised that the intent is to stop any and all bullying. But it says the word “habit …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Honourable Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The difference between the two definitions is that we have used a more progressive, internationally recognised definition than the def-inition that was in the Human Right s Act at that parti cular time. The requirement for persons to . . . …
The Chairman Chairman Are there a ny further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Chairman, MP Pearman. Oh, sorry. I think MP Richardson was about to continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. C hairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I just want to say that filing a complaint under this Act . . . this Act will prevail regarding sexual harassment. It does not prohibit one from filing a complaint under the Human Rights Act if it is proven that there are discriminatory …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Honourable Member Richardson.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Honourable Mi nister. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to get the Minister’s thoughts on also that “habitual display.” I would want that employee to be protected from any instance versus there being a lot of instances. I am not sure if that is how he is reading …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, do you want to take some more questions, or do you want to respond to that? [Pause] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I am quite fine with the definition which is stated in the Bill. I think that the definition was borrowed fro m international defin itions so that …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman, MP Pearman.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes. Also in relation to clause 7, please, Honourable Minister. This is also about definitions, but this is the one about the def inition of “sexual harassment” under the newly -to-be-inserted 10B(1) in this section, down to “sexual harassment.” “Sexual harassment includes any one or more …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The reasonable test is one peg. However, the impact on the individual i s another thing that one could consider. So when looking at bringing a harassment case, if the phone call was offensive, was it offensive enough where it did create a level of hardship …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there a ny further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman, MP Pearman. The Chairman: Continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman Still at clause 7, Minister, I am going to come back to the question of parliamentary scrutiny. If we look at clause 7, it is inserting a new 10B. And we go down to [proposed] section 10B(4) and it is “The Minister may by order amend Schedule 1.” So the …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I am just lookin g through the notes to see exactly . . . So Schedule 1 is the content of the policy statement against bullying and sexual harassment. So we put a content statement in place. And the world of work is continuously evolving. And …
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. So, Honourable Minister, I will take a last stab at this. A content statement would be making the law of Bermuda. And one would normally expect the laws of Bermuda to come back to Parliament so that your parliamentary colleagues, both those on the Oppos ition, but indeed those …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Would the Member accept, [Mr. Chairman], that there are numerous provisions and numerous pieces of legislation that allow for a dministrative processes to take place? And I think this is a harmless, logical one where we can allow a manager to determine what should be in …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 6 through 11 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 6 through 11 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 12 through 15.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, clause 12 r epeals and replaces section 19 of the principal Act to provide (i) for a probationary p eriod for new or pr omoted employees of not more than six months [(subject to that section)]; (ii) for the conduct of a performance review …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Are there any further speakers? There are no further speakers. Minister, do you want to move those clauses 12 through 15? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that clauses 12 through 15 be ap proved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 12 through 15 be approved. Are there any objections to it? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 12 through 15 passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I would like to move c lauses 16 through 25.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, clause 16 r epeals and replaces section 26 of the principal Act to enable an employer to give to an employee who is guilty of misconduct a written warning setting out both the misconduct and appropriate instructions for i mprovement. This clause also enables …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any speakers to clauses 16 through 25?
Mr. Jarion Rich ardson Yes, Mr. Chairman, MP Richardson.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Richardson, continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson I am sorry. I may have mi sunderstood. We are on clause . . . I can speak to clause 16, right?
Mr. Jarion Richardso n Yes. Thank you. Honourable Minister, as it relates to [proposed new] section 26, Termination for repeated misconduct, is it the intention that the written warning that the mi sconduct . . . and let me sort of walk that. (I beg your indulgence, Mr. Chair man, because I am just …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: No, it is not the intention. And so the second misconduct, which could be different in nature from the first misconduct, is what we are tal king about in terms of repeated misconduct. So it is not repeated mi sconduct of the same nature.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Are there a ny further speakers? No further speakers. Minister, do you want to move the clauses 16 through 25? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 16 through 25 for approval. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Yes. It has been …
The Chairman Chairman Move the Schedule. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that the Schedule be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Schedule be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Appro ved. [Motion carried: The Schedule passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Let us do the preamble, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any obj ections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be r eported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Employment Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 was considered by a …
The Chairman Chairman Thank y ou, Minister. Thank you, Honourable Members. Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 8:55 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE EMPLOYMENT AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2020
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Deputy Speaker. Members, the Bill entitled the Employment Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 has been reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. The Bill has been reported as printed and received. That now takes us on to …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Ja son Hayward: I move that the Bill entitled the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 2020 be now read a second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? No objection. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING TRADE UNION AND LA BOUR RELATIONS (CONSOLIDATION) ACT 2020 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to introduce the Bill entitled the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 2020, which consol idates and modernises the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Ric hardson.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, you have the floor.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the Honourable Minister for bringing this legislation to this Honourable House. With any luck, I can avoid pinning it clear to the Atlantic slave trade on this particular submission. But I hope to be of use to the Honourable Minister. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? Any other Honourable Member? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, MP Dunkley. Yes, you hav e the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity to speak to the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 2020, and I support the comments of my honourable colleague. While I support t …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Mr. Speaker, if I may.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Weeks? Or is it the Deputy? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr .: I will stand down for Weeks. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Well, okay. Okay. All right. Okay, MP, I caught your voice today. Then I saw the Deputy moving. But the Deputy has indicated he will let you go first. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Michael A. Weeks: Let me start off by telling the Deputy, our cousin, thank you, you …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, you stuck to your word. You said you were going to be brief. I appreciate that. And would any other Member like to speak at this time? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also want to thank the Minister for bringing this Bill to the House. Because as the Act presently stands that was enacted in October 1998 —
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, we could see you your first time around. We do not see you this time. We hear you nice and clear, though. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Okay. Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker Keep talking. We are listening. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. That Act that was enacted in October 1998, really parts of it promoted some of the things that happened in our past. For example, in 1959, the dock strike. The dock strike was because of the bad conditions down …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member?
Mr. Vance Campbell Yes, Mr. S peaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Campbell? Yes, MP Campbell.
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections ]
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Speaker, there is no question that over the years unions have done much good in improving the rights of w orkers in this country. And this Bill before us brings together the content of several existing Bills that it looks to replace. That is not a simple cut -and-paste, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Member. Minister. Just hold off, Minister. I think we have—
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Speaker, MP Pearman.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It has been a long day, and so I will be brief. I just have one observation —
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearma n And I will hold to that. You can hold me to that. I just have one particular observation. And indeed it kind of follows from what the last speaker, MP Campbell, just had to say, which I jotted down. He said, The labour force is greater as a whole than …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? No other?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous.
Mr. C hristopher Famous Can I just address som ething real quick?
The Speaker The Speaker You can, sir.
Mr. Christopher Famous I have worked in a union shop all my life, all my adult life. And there are people who say, Oh, I don’t want to be part of the union! And they say they will put their money in charity. Okay. Pick a charity —SPCA (cats), whatever, right? But then …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Honourable Member. Minister, would you like to wrap this up? Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it would be remiss of me not to thank the former Minister, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. House in Committee at 9:44 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL TRADE UNION A ND LABOUR RELATIONS (CONSOLIDATION) ACT 2020
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 2020 . Minister Hayward, you have the floor. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, this Bill seeks to consolidate the Trade Union Act 1965 …
The Chairman Chairman What do you mean, clauses 1 through 10? Hon. Jason Hayward: No. I am going to move the 103 clauses into 10 unequal parts.
The Chairman Chairman Oh, okay. Hon. Jason Hayward: I begin with clauses 1 through 4, which may seem strange because there are 103clause in the Act. But I can guarantee the other parts will allow me to catch up. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: All right. Understood. Yes, understood. Hon. Jason Hayward: …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Ja son Hayward: Clause 1 is the citation of the Bill. Clause 2 provides for definitions of terms used in the Bills. The definitions are largely modelled after the definitions set out under the Trade Union Act 1965, the Labour Relations Act 1975 and the Labou r Disputes …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers to clauses 1 through 4 of this Bill? No speakers. Minister, do you want to move clauses 1 through 4, have them approved? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 4 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 4 be approved. Are t here any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 4 passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I will now move clauses 5 through 19. The Chairman: Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Any further speakers to clauses 5 through 19?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, Mr. Chairman, MP Richardson.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Richardson, yes.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. T hank you, Ho nourable Minister. Just some questions on clause 10(1) “Subject to this Act, the courts shall not have power to entertain any legal proceedings . . . .” And then it goes through “(a) any agreement between members of a trade union . . . …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: MP Richardson, let me just state that those clauses that you have mentioned have been clauses that would have been found in the original Trade Union Act 1965. And so those are not amendments. T hose would be existing provisions that we are carrying over into …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Honourable Mi nister. It was the penalty from the summary . . . no, no. That is not it. I am a little early. Sorry for that.
The Chairman Chairman Clause 11 about the Registrar General?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. Were there any more resources given to them for their additional duties? Hon. Jason Hayward: And so the se are not additional duties to the Registrar. T hey have been governing trade unions from the inception of the Act.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Honourable Mi nister.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there a ny further speakers? No further speakers. Minister, do you want to move those clauses? Hon. Jason Hayward: I move for the approval of clauses 5 through 19.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 5 through 19 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 5 through 19 passed.] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I now move clauses 20 through 39.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Clause 20 is the first provision under Chapter 2 of Part 2 of this Bill. Chapter 2 pr ovides for the administration and membershi p of trade unions. This clause sets out what the requirements in relation to the constitution of a registered trade union. It …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, thank you. Thank you, Honourable M inister. Are there any further speakers to clauses 20 through 39?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Speaker ?
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Richardson?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have got a question on clause 21, annual returns to be transmitted to the Registrar. In the past this has not been complied with. Does this body of legislation provide for —how is that going to be nav igated because I get that it is …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Minister? Hon. Jason Hayward: MP Richardson. I can assure you that the Registrar keeps up with the trade unions regarding their books. I think it is a misconception that it is not being complied with. I know that the majority of the unions are up to date …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay. Thank you. I have read some credible source material on that, so that is all. I am not saying that it happened all the time. But clearly, it must have happened at some point. Thank you for clarifying.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers to clauses 20 through 39? There appear to be none. Minister —do you want to move clauses 20 through 39? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 20 through 39 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 20 through 39 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 20 through 39 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Minister , before you continue, you have some amendments. Have they —are you aware — Hon. Jason Hayward: Clause 57 has the first amendment.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, but we need to give them out before then. You need to — Hon. Jason Hayward: I distributed the amendments to the Whip and it was my understanding that the Whip was distributing the amendments.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. No problem. Continue, Minister . Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I will appreciate your guidance when we come to the sections that need to be amended.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Jason Haywa rd: Mr. Chairman, I now move clauses 40 through 60.
The Chairman Chairman I will tell you what. Go [clauses] 40 through 56. I think the amendment is 57, is that your first one? Hon. Jason Hayward: Correct.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Let us —so, if you go from 40 through 56, if I can suggest that to you. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move clauses 40 through 56.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, clause 40 is the first provision under Part 3 (exclusive bargaining rights for certain trade unions) Chapter 1 of the Bill. Chapter 1 provides for the certification of a union, meeting the definition provided in clause 40, as the exclusive bargaining agent for a …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. 358 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any further speakers to clauses 40 through 56? There appear to be none. Minister, do you want to move those clauses? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 40 …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 40 through 56 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 40 through 56 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Minister, if you want to introduce the amendment now, you can do that first — on 57. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 57 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to amend clause 57. In clause 57(1), I would like to delete “do not or.”
The Chairman Chairman Right. You want to read . . . would you read the whole amended clause in case people do not . . . in case Honourable Member s do not have it. Hon. Jason Hayward: [Clause] 57(1): A worker in a bargaining unit (“the existing unit”) may, at any time …
The Chairman Chairman Any speake rs to clause 57 . . . the amendment? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Chairman. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a question to the —
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Mr. Dunkley, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a question to the Honourable Minister. Can he please give some background for the amendment and why those three words are deleted? Hon. Jason Hayward: What was done was we reverted back to …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Speaker [sic]?
Mr. Vance Campbell It is MP Campbell. Mr. Speaker . . . I mean Mr. Chairman, sorry, I would like to ask the Minister whether or not the effect of that change amounts to only union members that are part of that collective unit can vote in a decertific ation process.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Minister . Hon. Jason Hayw ard: There are two categories of members that can vote in the decertification process and those are members who paid agency shop which means they paid their monies go to the union prem ium—or members of the union can participate in a d ecertification …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Bermuda House of Assembly No further speakers? Minister , you want to move the amendment [to] clause 57? Well, you will want to move clause 57 as amended, I should say. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clause 57 as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 57 as amended be approved. Are there any objections to that? Approved. Continue, Minister . [Motion carried: Clause 57, as amended, passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move cl auses 58 through 61.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Clause 58 requires the cance llation of certification be made by order by the Labour Relations Manager. This clause also provides that where a union’s certification is cancelled, the agency shop in respect of that union shall terminate, and that the union shall not be permitted …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister —Honourable Minister. Are there a ny further speakers to clauses 58 through 61? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker —sorry, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Clause 61, agency shop, Mr. Chairman. This is the clause that colleagues and I had spoken to briefly during the introduction of the Bill, and I certainly can understand a union’s belief that they should be entitled to all employees …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I believe that matter was suff iciently covered when we were debating the legisl ation.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister , do you want to move the clauses 58 through 61? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move the clauses 58 through 61.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 58 through 61 be approved. Are there any objections to that? 360 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 58 through 61 passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 62 Hon. Jason Hayward: In clause 62(2)(b), we want to delete “engage a worker” and substitute “engage a person.”
The Chairman Chairman Do you want to read that w hole clause there so they can get it? Hon. Jason Hayward: To refuse to engage a person who, if engaged by the employer, would be a worker in relation to whom the agency shop applies, on the grounds that he is not a …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister . Are there any speakers to the clause 62 as amended? There appear to be none. Minister , do you want to move that clause as amended be approved? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that clause 62 be approved as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 62 as amended be approved. Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 62, as amended, passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 63 through 77.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: [Clause] 63 provides for what may, under a collective bargaining agreement, const itute an appropriate contribution in lieu of membership to a union. This provision is largely adopted from the Trade Union Act [1965] and requires the employer to pay to the union the appropriate contributions …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, thank you, Honourable Minister . Are there a ny further speakers to clauses 63 through 77? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Honourable Member Dunkley. Hon. Michael H . Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, clause 71.
The Chairman Chairman [Clause] 71? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Page 39, duty to keep notes confidential. Can the Honourable Minister please give me a definition of what is in that category of notes? Or let us put it this way, Mr. Chairman, to the Honourable Minister, it says in that section that parties …
The Chairman Chairman Any there any further speakers to clauses 63 through 77? There appear to be none. Honourable Mini ster, do you want to move clauses 63 through 77? 362 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move clauses 63 through 77.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 63 through 77 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 63 through 77 passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I want to amend clause 78.
The Chairman Chairman Yes? AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 78 Hon. Jason Hayward: In clause 78(2)(a), (3)(a) and (3)(b), insert after “essential industry” the words “or service.”
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister . You just want to read it all out. Hon. Jason Hayward: [Clause] 78(2) —
The Chairman Chairman [Clause 78](2)(a). Hon. Jason Hayward: Give me a second, Mr. Chai rman.
The Chairman Chairman No problem. Hon. Jason Hayward: So, [clause] 78(2)(a) an award determining the rights of the employer or the worker in the essential industry or service and of the trade union in relation to the matter to which the complaint relates. Under [clause 78](3)(a), against the employer in the essential industry …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers to clause 78, as amended? There appear to be none. Minister , you can move that. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clause 78 as amended for approval.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 78 as amended be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 78, as amended, passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 79 through 89.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Clause 79 provides for the enforcement or recovery of an award made in respect of a complai nt of an unfair industrial practice under clause 78. Clause 80 provides for restrictions on lock - outs, strikes, and industrial action short of a strike in the essential …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Are there any further speakers to clauses 79 through to 89? There appear to be none. Minister , do you want to move those clauses? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 79 through 89.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 79 through 89 be approved. Are there any objections to t hat? There appear to be none. Approved [Motion carried: Clauses 79 through 89 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Ministe r. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 90 through 103.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. C hairman, clause 90 is the first provision under Part 5 (enforcement) of the Bill. This provision empowers the Labour Relations Ma nager to impose a civil penalty not exceeding $5,000 on a person who without reasonable excuse contr avenes a provision for whic h …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, like connivance. Hon. Jason Hayward: Connivance?
The Chairman Chairman That is what is looks like. Hon. Jason Hayward: Okay . . . with the consent, knowledge or connivance of an officer of the body corporate the person and the body corporate commits an offence and shall be liable to be proceeded against and punished accordingly. Provision is also made …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. 364 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any further speakers to clauses 90 through to 103?
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Chair —sorry, Mr. Chai rman.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Will we be dealing with Schedule 7 in its entirety or would we discuss it here?
The Chairman Chairman Well, we are talking about clauses 90 through 103 right now.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay. Thank you. I just needed clarity.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. No further speakers to clauses 90 through 103? Minister, do you want to move? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I want to move clauses 90 through 103.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 90 through 103 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 90 through 103 passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move Schedule 1—
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: —through Schedule [5]. Schedule 1 sets out the procedures for the conduct of a ballot under clauses 47 and 57 (certific ation and cancellation). Clauses 2(a) and (b), the Ma nager shall prior to conducting a ballot meet with eligible workers to explain the process and …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Dunkley, conti nue. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I would like to speak to Schedule 1 first and then Schedule 3.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, to the Mi nister, on page 55, Schedule 1, [paragraph] 8, it reads, “As soon as all persons entitled to vote in the ballot and who wish to do so have voted, the Manager shall count the votes and record the …
The Chairman Chairman Are there a ny further speakers — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman—
The Chairman Chairman I am sorry . . . Mr. Dunkley. PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SCHEDULE 3 Hon. Micha el H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, on the chat, I sent is an amendment for Schedule 3. Have you read that on the group chat, Minister? I can read it out to you. Minister, Schedule 3 …
The Chairman Chairman Minister.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Chairman, I would like to speak to that as well.
The Chairman Chairman Continue.
Mr. Jarion Rich ardson Yes, thank you, Mr. Chai rman. I echo my colleague’s sentiments in that Bermuda is extremely exposed as an Island, and prob ably more so than is currently recognised as we have had over the decades less and less maritime traffic. I remember as a person I used to write …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers to the amendment put forward by Honourable Member Dunkley? Minister. 366 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: While it may be logical to put forward the amendment, the Government at this time cannot support it. The workers that …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Mr. Chairman, MP Richar dson. Thank you; and I thank the Honourable Minister for that explanation. I believe [Part] 5 i s in this set. I was hoping that the Honourable Member would be able to explain the logic behind these penalties. Obviously, entrepr eneurs, small businesses and start -ups …
The Chairman Chairman Okay, let me deal with the amendment — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, I just had another comments back on the amendment.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the Minister’s explanation. So, while it may be logical, and this is not the right time, when would the Minister envision it would be the right time? Also, Mr. Chairman, the Minister did say that the dockworkers are covered …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, do you want to withdraw the amendment, since the Minister has undertaken to do what he said he will do? Or do you want to put it to a vote? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Well, the Government has 30 votes, so there is no reason to put it …
The Chairman Chairman Well, you know I had to put that to you, it’s the rule. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I appreciate that. I think it is the appropriate thing to do and I think the people of Bermuda believe that too. So I will take the Minister on …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member Dunkley. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I just want to add to the clarif ication on [paragraph] 6. MP Dunkley defined narrow port and dock services, and we received clarification that the scope of those port and dock services that they have to provide are much broader …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that Schedules 1 through 5 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Schedules 1 through 5 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Schedules 1 through 5 passed without amendment .] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move Schedules 6 and 7.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Six through eight, Mr. Chai rman.
The Chairman Chairman All right. Hon. Jason Hayward: Schedule 6 sets out maximum fees which may be imposed under regulations for registering a trade union, altering its constitution and i nspecting documents. Schedule 7 makes amendments to the E mployment Act 2000 as follows: (1) Section 3 (interpretation) is amended to insert and …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. AMENDMENT TO SCHEDULE 7 Hon. Jason Hayward: It is Schedule 7, paragraph 9 (Inserts Part VA), in new section 44I(4)(a), delete “and the employee” and substitute “, the trade union, the employee and any other person.”
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to the amendment in Schedule 7?
Mr. Jarion Richardson I’m sorry, Mr. Chairman, can the Honourable Minister just explain that amendment again? I did not quite catch all of that. Hon. Jason Hayward: Okay, let me just . . . In Schedule 7, par agraph 9 (Inserts Part VA), in new section 44I(4)(a) (which is found on page 72), …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Honourable Mi nister and Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any further speakers to the amendment of Schedule 7? There appear to be none. Hon. Jason Hayward: Can I continue with Schedule 7, an d move it as amended?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Schedule 7 be approved as amended. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Schedule 7 passed as amended.] Hon. Jason Hayward: So, with that said, I will read Schedule 8 and move Schedules 6 through 8 collectively.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: Schedule 8 sets out the consequential amendments.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be—
Mr. Jarion Richardson Sorry, Mr. Chairman, I just want to be sure that I am following along properly, would this be my opportunity to comment on page 75, I want to say Schedule 2. Is that what is being move? Or, inclusive with Schedule 7. Hon. Jason Hayward: So, Schedules 6 through 8 …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Okay great. Perfect. Then, Mr. Chairman, I do have some questions for the Minister.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue.
Mr. Jarion Richardson My first one, Mr. Chairman, is that in Schedule 6 the maximum fees to be paid under the regulations are registering of trade unions $50, registering alterations to the constitution $25, and for inspection of documents $10. That is not a lot of fees, so I am not quite sure …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Got it. And, Mr. Chairman, thank you Honourable Minister, are these compensated positi ons? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: I am almost certain that they are. I will seek clarity, but I am almost certain they will be compensated.
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Honourable Minister.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be none, Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: With there being no further speakers, Mr. Chairman, I would like to move [Schedule] 6 for approval.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Schedule 6 be approved. Any objections to that? There appear to be none . Approved. [Motion carried: Schedule 6 passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I move Sche dule 7 as amended.
The Chairman Chairman We did that already. Hon. Jason Hayward: Okay. So, I would like to move Schedule 8.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that S chedule 8 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Schedule 8 passed.] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move the preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that the Bill be reported to the House as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as amended. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: The Trade Union and Labour Rel ations (Consolidation) Act 2020 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Members, the Bill entitled the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 2020 has been reported to the House as [passed as] amended. Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. The Bill has been reported as [passed] as amended. Members, that brings us …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections, continue Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING INVESTMENT FUNDS AMENDMENT ACT 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Investment Funds Amendment Act 2020 was read a third time and passed.] 370 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you, Minister. The next …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections, continue Minister. [ Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2 020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [ Motion carried: The Bermuda Monetary Authority Amen dment (No. 2) Act 2020 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, I think the next one is yours as well. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Tax Reform Commission Amendment Act 2020 be now read a …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections, continue Minister. [ Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING TAX REFORM COMMISSION AMENDMENT ACT 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Tax Reform Commission Amendment Act 2020 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. I believe the next item is in the name of the Minister of Transport. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott : Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Marine and Ports Services …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No objections, continue Minister. [ Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING MARINE AND PORTS SERVICES ACT 2020 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I move that the Bill be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Marine and Ports Services Act 2020 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, I believe the next one is yours as well. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott : Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Merchant Shipping Amend-ment (No. 2) Act 2020 be now read for …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to the Bill being read by its title only? No objections, continue Minister. [ Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] Bermuda House of Assembly BILL THIRD READING MERCHANT SHIPPING AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2020 Hon. W. Lawrence Scott: I move that the Bill be read a …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third tim e by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Merchant Shipping Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next item is in the name of the Minister of Labour. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Employment Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 be now …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none, continue Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING EMPLOYMENT AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2020 Hon. Jason Hayward: I move that the Bill be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The B ill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Employment Amendment (No. 2) Act 2020 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to do the last item, Mi nister? SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Trade Union and Labour R elations (Consolidation) Act 2020 be now read for …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Trade Union and Labour Rel ations (Consolidation) Act 2020 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. W alter H. Roban: Hello, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, are you going to move us to the next phase? ADJOURNMENT Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Tonight with such a substantive and marathon night completed, I wish to move that the House do adjourn until February 19, 2021.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker That sounds like the Deputy Speaker. Deputy Speaker, you have your 20 minutes. CORRECTION TO DR. GRA NT GIBBONS’ TRIBUTE TO THE LATE MR. LEONARD GIBBONS Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will not be that long. But, Mr. Speaker, in the November 27, 2020, Royal …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, thank you for your comments. You didn’t use your whole 20 minutes. You said you wouldn’t and we appreciate that. Does any other Member wish to speak?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker. Another Hon. Member: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I hear Mr. Pearman. Mr. Famous, I hear your voice. I am t rying to see who it was . . . MP Famous, MP Pearman.
Mr. Christopher Famous I will yield to MP Pearman,
Mr. Speaker. Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, I will equally yield to MP Famous. Let’s hear what he has to say.
Mr. Christopher Famous No, you go f irst.
The Speaker The Speaker I recognised your voice first, MP Pearman. You can continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman All right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I will.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Scott Pearman Like the speaker before me, Mr. Speaker, I won’t use my 20 minutes.
The Speaker The Speaker We appreciate that.
Mr. Scott Pearman It has been a long day with a lot of Bills. I believe there were 10 different matters there on the Order Paper. And I know Mr. Famous wants to have his full 20 minutes, so I will leave hi m some time before the witching hour. The Speaker: No …
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, there—
The Speaker The Speaker We can hear you clearly; it would be nice to see you as well.
Mr. Scott Pearman Oh, you can’t see me? Hang on.
The Speaker The Speaker We’d like to see that you’re not in your pyjamas at this hour of the night. L. F. WADE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT BERMUDIANS SHOULD BE PROUD
Mr. Scott Pearman I should be! There I am. I have pyjamas on underneath, Mr. Speaker. I have a tie on the top, and the pyjamas underneath. Mr. Speaker, there has been a lot of bad news around lately, and more of it today about the pandemic. Our COVID cases are concerning and …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. MP Famous, would you like to begin your 20 minutes? Go right ahead.
Mr. Christopher Famous I should have 40 minutes considering what happened to me last week. But, Mr. Speaker, I won’t be that long.
The Speaker The Speaker You have 20 minutes to use tonight.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I sat here and listened to the Honourable Member from consti tuency 22 wax empiricall y, if that is the word, emphat i-cally about the airport, it’s a great airport , let’s put the past behind us . Some people are making a lot of money off that …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go right ahead. L. F. WADE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT A FINANCIAL BURDEN
Mr. Christopher Famous “Every time I hear the crack of the whip my blood runs cold. I remember on the slave ship how they brutalized our very souls.” Mr. Speaker, I heard the previous speaker talk so much about the airport. But he never mentioned the path that it took to get to …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Rules of Debate, Standi ng Order 19(7)]
Mr. Scott Pearman As delightful as the speech that MP Famous is giving to the House is, I am reading along the very same speech from the Royal Gazette published today. He is not supposed to—
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, so what is the point of order?
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah. I have control of the House, I don’t need assistance. Make your point of order. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: My point of order, Mr. Speaker, is that when he comes to address the House he should do so fresh and should not be reading …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, this was my motion to adjourn last week that did not get read. Anyway, Mr. Speaker, he said We had a right to go into the House to do what we had to do. Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker The point that should be made is that we should remind Members that you should not be reading your speeches. You can refer to your notes, that is allowed, but not to read your speech.
Mr. Christopher Famous I wanted to properly quote the former Premier. And I will quote him again, We had a right to go into the House to do what we had to do. You see, Mr. Speaker, the fact that the OBA wanted to go in the House is why the police came …
The Speaker The Speaker You still have time on the clock. REPRESENTATION OF THE PEO PLE, CROWN DEPENDENCIES AND OVERSEAS TERRITORIES —UK PRIVATE MEMBER’S BILL
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, I am moving on to another subject. Mr. Speaker, there is a quote by somebody (I don’t know who), The British are coming; the British are coming! Some s ay it was Paul Revere, some say it wasn’t him, so I am just saying it was somebody. In February …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Would any other Member like to make a contribution this evening? Any other Member? No other Member? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? You have your 20 minutes. BERMUDA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM EDUCATION REFORM UPDATE Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier this week due to staff shortages caused by COVID -19 quarantines in Bermuda, public schools had to switch to remote learning. This was not a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Simmons? MP Simmons, you have the floor this evening. L. F. WADE IN TERNATIONAL AIRPORT A FINANCIAL BURDEN
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the comments by the Honour able Member from Paget . . . it is very disappointing, because I would have appreciated it if there had been some mention of the v ictims of December 2 nd, [2016]. I would have appreciated some concession for …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Mr. Speaker, I am moving on. I would like to take a few moments to talk about something that hit the news today, and this is in reference to the alleged arrest of Dr. Brown coming forth, and being charged with corruption. And Mr. Speaker, I would like to put …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons But today, on our final session for 2020, I would like to take a few moments to reach out through the House to the young of Bermuda who . . . we know most are not listening, but I think this is an important message to deliver, not just here, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Simmons. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution here this evening? No other Member? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I would like to close if no one else is going to speak. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: If you speak, we will close …
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. No one seems to have moved, so you can go right ahead. PLP GOVERNMENT FULFILLING ITS MANDATE Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has been an interesting session. It opened up with the celebration of our 400 th anniversary with the …
The Speaker The Speaker You have five minutes left. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I will not l ook to use up all of my time, but I will say this. I do want to wish all of our colleagues, all 36 members of this House and Legislature, your staff and others who …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. That brings us to a close of tonight’s session, but also a close to this period of Parliament before we break for our Christmas recess. And as this is the last sitting, I would like to remind members that we will resume again on the 19th …
The Speaker The Speaker The House now s tands adjourned. [At 12:33 am (12 December 2020) the House stood adjourned until Friday, 19 February 2021.] 382 11 December 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentionally left blank.]
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