Minister of National Security Wayne Caines introduced a new immigration bill focused on helping Bermudians with children born overseas and addressing mixed status families where some family members have Bermudian status while others don't. The bill aims to make it easier for Bermudian children born abroad to gain status and keep families together. Minister Kim Wilson also presented the 2015 Hospitals Board report, noting progress in clearing audit backlogs. MPs asked questions about the immigration reform timeline and whether the process was truly bipartisan as promised.
Introduction of the Repatriation and Mixed Status Families Bill to reform immigration lawsTabling of the Bermuda Hospitals Board Annual Report for 2015Government Fees Amendment Regulations 2020Bermuda Public Accountability Board 2019 Annual ReportInternational Women's Day acknowledgments and community congratulations
Bills & Motions
Repatriation and Mixed Status Families Bill - tabled for future debate (amends the Bermuda Immigration and Protection Act 1956)
Government Fees Amendment Regulations 2020 - tabled
No bills were debated or voted on in this sitting
Notable Moments
Minister Caines emphasized this immigration bill is "just the beginning" of comprehensive reform, not the complete solution
The bill was developed through an 18-month bipartisan process involving both PLP and OBA members
International Women's Day was celebrated, with MP Dennis Lister wishing his mother (the Speaker's wife) a happy 65th birthday
Debate Transcript
454 speeches from 27 speakers
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning, Members. [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 2 and 4 March 2020 ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, the Minutes from the 2 nd of March and also the 4th of March have been circulated. Are there any corrections or omissions that need to be addressed? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 2 March and 4 March 2020 confirmed. ] MESSAGES …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning, Members. HOUSE PAGES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerToday I would just like to announce that we have with us two Pages who are sitting in with us today. We have Ms. [Jache] Butler and Ms. [Dazhja] Greaves, who are both here. I think you have seen both [of them] this morning as they have circulated around. Yes. …
Today I would just like to announce that we have with us two Pages who are sitting in with us today. We have Ms. [Jache] Butler and Ms. [Dazhja] Greaves, who are both here. I think you have seen both [of them] this morning as they have circulated around. Yes. Welcome. I trust you young ladies will enjoy your stay with us today.
APOLOGY
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI would also like to announce that Mr. Cole Simons is absent today. And he will send his apology. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThis morning on the Order Paper you will see that there are three papers to be tabled today. And the first is in the name of the Minister of Finance. Minister. Hon. Curtis L. D ickinson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. GOVERNMENT FEES AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Government Fees Amendment Regulations 2020 …
Good morning.
GOVERNMENT FEES AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Government Fees Amendment Regulations 2020 proposed to be made by the Minister of Finance in exercise of the power conferred by section 2 of the Government Fees Act of 1965.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd, Minister, I believe the second is also in your name. BERMUDA PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD 2019 ANNUAL REPORT AND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Public Accountability Board 2019 …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. And the third paper is in the name of the Mi nister of Health. Minister Wilson. 3394 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD ANNUAL REPORT FOR 2014/15 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have …
Thank you. And the third paper is in the name of the Mi nister of Health. Minister Wilson.
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Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD ANNUAL REPORT FOR 2014/15
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Hospitals Board Annual R eport for 2014/15 .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. PETITIONS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are two Statements on the Order Paper this morning. The first is again in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD ANNUAL REPORT 2015 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members, I am very pleased to be tabling in this Ho nourable House …
There are two Statements on the Order Paper this morning. The first is again in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister.
BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD ANNUAL REPORT 2015
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members, I am very pleased to be tabling in this Ho nourable House today the Bermuda Hospitals Board 2015 Annual Report . There has been progress in the auditing process, and this has been publicly commented on by the Auditor General. Financial Stat ements for 2016 were signed off by the Auditor Genera l in February. I am very pleased to note that both 2015 and 2016 have unqualified audits. I will soon be able to table the 2016 report in this Honourable House. The focus is now on completing the audits for 2017, 2018, 2019 and finally 2020. The current anticipated schedule will see BHB [Bermuda Hospitals Board] completing all of its audits up to 2019 by the end of the calendar year. Mr. Speaker, alongside financial data, salary data and financial statements, this 2015 annual report provides a summary of the activities during the fiscal year under review. This was an incredible year which saw BHB move acute services into the new Acute Care Wing after years of construction and planning. BHB was able to meet its new financial obligations even though revenue decreased that year. Significant cost controls were put in place, and discretionary spending was carefully managed. It was also the year we had two hurricanes within a week. The new Acute Care Wing fared very well, but the older buildings at KEMH [King Ed ward VII Memorial Hospital] and MWI [Mid Atlantic Wellness Institute], and specifically the old Continuing Care Unit were damaged badly and residents had to be relocat-ed at the height of the storm. The building has subs equently been demolished. During that year, BHB managed to end the year with a surplus, though down year on year. Thirty - seven per cent , or $10.7 million , of revenues over expenses in th at year was an accounting gain—not cash —related to accrued health insurance. Salary and employee benefit c osts dipped slightly compared to the year before, to $170.5 million. The biggest drops in revenue related to outpatient services and the E xtended Care Unit . Mr. Speaker, the 2015 annual report gives details of the operational readiness project, which i ncludes accreditation for the substance abuse pr ogramme Turning Point, with the Commission on A ccreditati on of Rehabilitation Facilities. A significant focus this year was on Ebola preparedness planning, overseen by an Ebola subcommittee of BHB’s Disaster Committee ; screening protocols for staff and patients ; and the purchase of special protective equi pment for staff and ambulances. At the same time, a respiratory infection e nterovirus , D68, was circulating, especially impacting the very young. Protocols around testing, treatment and caring for infected patients , as well as restricting visitation , were implemented. All of this to say that preparing for infectious diseases is not new to the I sland or BHB, even as we face the more widespread challenges of COVID -19 today. To close, Mr. Speaker, I look forward to brin ging the future annual reports as they are made ready and to see BHB move forward on its legislated sche dule of financial reporting. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The second Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister, would you like to put your Stat ement? Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIt so does. TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMIL IES BILL Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, Winston Churchill once said, “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” These words were spoken after …
It so does.
TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMIL IES BILL
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, Winston Churchill once said, “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” These words were spoken after a great victory which marked a turning po int for the British in World War II. It is the same for our progress so far with comprehensive immigration reform . This is not the end. This is only the end of the beginning. For w e have much more work to do on reform. Progress in immigration reform requir es time, resources, collaboration with stakeholders and strong leadership on the issue.
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, w ith that being said, I rise here today to announce to this Honourable House that I am tabling the Bermuda Immigration and Protection Amendment Act 2020, a Bill best referred to as the Repatriation and Mixed Status Families Bill . Mr. Speaker, this morning I would outline the phases of comprehensive immigrati on reform, the problems addressed by this Bill and the collaborative approach used.
Four Phases of Reform
Hon. Wayne Caines: Last year we said that compr ehensive immigration reform must be done in phases. We cannot fix everything at once. We outlined four distinct phases of i mmigration reform . Phase 1 addresses operational backlogs in the Department of Immigration including work permit processing and has resulted in our closely monitoring this area to ensure we have no slippage moving for-ward. Phase 2 i nvolves improving processes and procedures within all sections of the d epartment , removing bottlenecks, eliminat ing waste and improv ing efficiency. We seek to improve the effectiveness of decision -making, to have more consistent outcomes and improve turnar ound times. For this phase we partnered with the private sector through the Associ ation of Bermuda International Companies (ABIC), the Association of Bermuda Insurers and Reinsurers (ABIR) and others to fund “L ean” Process Improv ements with the assistance of KPMG Bermuda. For this partnership we are especially thankful. Phase 3 involves policy and legislative r eforms , and again we partnered with the private sector and with KPMG to augment the internal g overnment team, in addition to working collaboratively with other government ministries on legislative amendments. This is the area most often referred to as “Immigration Reform ”; however, it represents only one phase of the wider reform. Mr. Speaker, w e did not discard the existing Bermuda Immigration and P rotection Act of 1956 and attempt to introduce a brand- new Act. We believed that approach would be divisive and inconsistent with the Government’s pledge to execute i mmigration r eform in a collaborative and bipartisan way. A new Act would also have no caselaw behind it and lead to l egal uncertainty. We have not rushed or taken our r esponsibility lightly. We have proceeded cautiously, fully considering the racially charged history of imm igration in this country and the fact that this is an em otive issue. Mr. Speaker, t he full scope of policy and legi slative changes required under phase 3 is broad and includes the following: 1. permanent residency certificates [PRCs] ; 2. Bermudian status; 3. belongers; 4. job makers; and 5. mixed status families. Phase 4 is the implementat ion phase and i ncludes work to update IT systems, training of staff and an examination of the organi sational structure in light of procedural and legislative changes. This phase also includes the implementation of a new border management system, scheduled to go live in the summer of 2020. This new system will allow the Department of Immigration to better perform its role of protecting our borders and is a critical dependency for the new ai rport, which is scheduled to open with the use of e - gates. Mr. Speak er, there is much more to be done for comprehensive immigration reform , but tabling this Bill is a positive step in the right direction. Mr. Speaker, the Government stated in its Speech from the Throne in November 2018, “Our immigration laws must better reflect the mandate of this Government in putting Bermudians first. That means that a balance must be struck between the legitimate expectations of Bermudians in their own land and the legitimate l abour needs of businesses. Historically that balance has not been struck, and throughout our history imm igration has been used to achieve aims that had not hing to do with economic growth. That historical legacy has tainted the issue for many Bermudians; yet we must have mature debate on reforming and progres sing imm igration in a manner that works best for a better, fairer Bermuda. During this session, the Legisl ature will be invited to consider bills that simplify issues surrounding Bermudian status, the status of PRC holders and Bermudian status for mixed- status fam ilies.” Mr. Speaker, o n page 20 of the Progressive Labour Party’s Election Platform 2017, the following words were articulated: “Throughout our history, i mmigration laws and policies have been mired in the combustible mix of race, politics and class. They have divided our community, created distinct benefits for some and resulted in the marginalisation of others. We can never forget the historic protests in March 2016, when the OBA tried to force blanket status grants on Bermudians without consultation. Yo ur next PLP Government will: Complete comprehensive bipar-tisan immigration reform to ensure that the rights of Bermudians are advanced and protected, while recognising the need to grow our economy with fair and balanced work permits and residential policies. Our reform will ensure that Bermudians will come first, employer abuse is minimised, and the land in Berm uda is protected for Bermudians.” Mr. Speaker, in tabling this Bill today, we are taking steps to fulfil the promises that the Government made to t he people of Bermuda. This Bill was form ulated on recommendations from the Report of the Consultative Immigration Reform Working Group and the section entitled Mixed Status Families. This group worked tirelessly for 18 months, holding over 14 public 3396 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly town hall meetings. The g roup listened to the concerns, aspirations and ideas of Bermudians. The group worked in a bipartisan fashion, and every me mber of the group signed off on every word of the r eport. The report is now commonly referred to as the Madeiros R eport , and truly represents the thoughts and feelings of the people of this country. The c hairman, Mr. William Madeiros , should be commended for his leadership and guidance of the group. Under the leadership of the late Honou rable Walton Brown, JP MP, the Bipartisan Parliamentary Committee on Imm igration Reform was then created that further advance d the work. The group met from early 2018 through 2019 to develop policy proposals in a collabo-rative and bipartisan manner in line with this Gover nment’s election m anifesto promise. Members of the bi partisan committee include Members of Parliament Mrs. Renee Ming, JP MP; Mr. Christopher Famous, JP MP; Ms. Leah Scott, JP MP; and Mr. Benjamin Smith, JP MP. These members have diligently and fastidiously met and should be thanked for their contributions to the Bill that will be presented today. Mr. Speaker, i n addressing the issues of r epatriation and mixed status families, sev eral key pri nciples were used to guide the development of this Bill. The principles were th at immigration policy should 1. not negatively impact Bermudians; 2. be fair; 3. address the problems in a sustainable way; 4. not lead to the separation of families; and 5. ensure that Bermudians have a place of pr imacy in their own homeland.
Overview of Problem and S olution
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, the definition of a mixed status family is “a family where one or more parents has Bermudian Status or holds a Permanent Resident’s Certificate but their son, daughter, or spouse does not have either Bermudian Status or hold a Permanent Resident’s Certificate.” The prob-lems this Repatriation and Mixed Status Families Bill addresses are as follows: (1) Bermudians experience great difficulty for their loved ones who are born overseas to obtain Bermudian status; and (2) the current immigration law is unfair for Bermudian families because it creates differences in rights between family members, with some family members having no rights in the country of their birth.
The Repatriation Issue
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, we addressed the situation for Bermudians who have children born overseas and the administrative burden of the paperwork in two ways: both moving forward prospectively, and going back in time retrospectively. Prospectively, for children born overseas to a Bermudian parent, from the commencement of this legislation parents of these children will not be required to prove that they were domiciled in Bermuda at the time of the child’s birth for up to two generations of children born over-seas. That means if a Bermudian has a child born overseas, that child is automatically Bermudian at birth without the need to fulfil any other requirement. And if that child born overseas in turn has a child of its own, that second- generation child born overseas would also be B ermudian from birth. Retrospectively, the Bill does not make any legislative change. In the case of a child who was born prior to the commenc ement of this legislation, there is still a requirement for the Bermudian parent to prove that they were dom iciled in Bermuda at the time of the birth. However, as part of the process improvements in the Department of Immigration, the Government will simplify and streamline this process to make it less burdensome for Bermudians to apply for their children born overseas to be granted Bermudian s tatus.
Mixed Status Families Issue
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, we took the pro blems identified in the Madeiros Report under the Mixed Status Families section, and we simplified them into three problems that the Bill addresses . Problem 1 addresses the issue of two siblings who were both born from the same parents in Berm uda but on different dates, with one child having ac-quired Bermudian status and the other having no regularised position under Bermuda immigration laws. This anomaly arises from legislative changes that over time created cut -offs, which in turn resulted in one sibling having full rights and the other sibling having none. The Bill regulari ses the situation of the sibling with no rights by allowing him or her to qualify for Bermudian status as a result of the sibling already possessing Bermudian s tatus. Problem 2 addresses the issue of a child born of Bermudian parents who not qualified for Bermudian status because at the time he was eligible to apply he was eit her too young or too old. In some cases both parents are Bermudian and the child was born in Bermuda. The Bill regulari ses the child’s position via the parents by allowing the child to qualify for Berm udian status. Problem 3 relates to the situation of P ermanent Resident Certificate holders. Let me be clear that this Bill only focuses on repatriation and mixed status families . Again, Mr. Speaker, let me be clear that this Bill only focuses on the repatriation and mixed status families. The Bill does not at tempt to address the problems of PRC s. However, one significant source of mixed status families is the fact that persons who hold PRC s under one portion of the Act are able to pass on
Bermuda House of Assembly this status to their children, while persons who have PRC s granted under another portion of the Act are not able to do so. The Bill addresses this issue, but creating a window to regulari se this situation for children of PRC holders by allowing them to obtain PRC for a period of two years from the commencement of this Bill. Thereafter, the legislation reverts back to the status quo. This two- year window is critical for the Gover nment to enact further legislative changes as part of i mmigration reform which will allow the Go vernment the opportunity to address the issues of PRCs .
Consultation
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, we have engaged with key stakeholders as a part of this process , and we have taken opportunity to listen to the feedback and comments. There is much fear, angst and frustr ation at the current state of immigr ation in this country. For this reason , more communication is required with the public to delineate the legislative changes ca ptured in this Bill. Consultation occurred with a wide cross section of leaders across Bermuda, including the follo wing: • the leadership of the People’s Campaign; • the Bermuda Public Services Union [BPSU ]; • the Bermuda Industrial Union [ BIU]; • the Association of Bermuda International Companies [ABIC ]; • the Association of Bermuda Insurers and R einsurers [ABIR ]; • the Bermuda Employers Counc il [BEC]; • the Bermuda Chamber of Commerce; • the One Bermuda Alliance [ OBA] ; and • the Progressive Labour Party [ PLP] . The collaborative approach was most signif icant in the b ipartisan committee. Members of the committee are supportive of this Bill. On behalf of Leah Scott , JP MP and the One Bermuda Alliance, Ben Smith , JP MP said , “This Bill is the first step in the process of reform, and demonstrates that members of both parties have worked diligently together toward a common goal. While this is just a first step—it is not the only step and we thank the public for their patience with this process thus far.” Renee Ming, JP MP [ of the PLP ] said, “I am happy to have been a part of a truly bi-partisan group that has had one thing in common—the protection of Bermuda's prized possession—her people! There has been much talk about the time this emotive matter has taken us, but we would rather measure countless times, but cut only once. We were well aware that we needed to strike a balance that encour ages growth bot h economically and socially, but not at the expense of our people.” Standing Strong for Bermudians Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, o ne might ask , What is this Government doing to take care of Berm udians? What steps are being taken to protect the i nterest s of Bermudians? In times of rising global inequality when only the 1 per cent seem to be making progress while the masses are struggl ing to survive, how is this Government fighting for its people? The answer is we are standing strong to ensure that there are fair opportunities for Bermudians in their own land. We are taking opportunities to ensure that there are steps through policies and practices to ensure that there are job availabilities for all our people. Through ever -more vigilant compliance, the Department of Immigration is fully utilis ing its 14 compliance officers. We have advertised the email and telephone compliance hotlines. We have revisited open, closed and restricted categories of work permits. We are insisting that employers have front -line workers who speak English in this country and will take steps to correct this if they do not. We are r eviewing our work permit policy to make it fair and more equitable. We are requiring employers to have robust training and development programmes to make sure that Bermudians get first opportunities for advancement.
Conclusion
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, t here are myths that have been propagated that need to be directly addressed in tabling this Bill today . This single Bill is not the totality of I mmigration Reform ; it is only the beginning. This Bill addresses the issues of repatri ation and mixed status families only. Further reform will be required to address other issues such as PRC, Bermudian status and belongers. The sentiment that this Bill do es nothing for Bermudians is patently untrue and must be rejected. T here are many black Bermudians who are caught up in the law as it stands with two Bermudian parents, but unable to claim Bermudian status , as the law does not allow it. The idea that the problems addressed in this Bill have been met with indifference by Bermudians is simply false. The fear that this Bill or any type of i mmigration reform will result in a simple giveaway of Bermudian status and a loss of land and a place of primacy for Berm udians in their own country is a fear that must be confronted and debunked. Mr. Speaker, immigration reform is about pr eserving the birthright of Bermudian parents for their children. It’s also about keeping families together. We cannot forget that, historically, immigration policies have been abused, and we have a responsibility to move forward cautiously. We must move forward with comprehensive immigration reform. We must boldly lead the way forward. We must listen, learn from each 3398 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly other and work together on this issue for the benefit of all of Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. There are no further Statements this morning. We will move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe have the two Statements which were delivered this morning. And we have Members who have indicated that they would like to ask questions of the Minister of Immigration. The first Member is Member Hayward. Would you like to put your question?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. QUESTION 1: TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES BILL
Mr. Jason HaywardThis question is put to the Mini ster: Why did the Minister decide to do an amendment and not just produce a whole new Bill?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, that is actually a very good question. This Act was written in 1956. There are so many parts to this legislation. We felt that it was very important for us to ensure that we dealt with this in a way that we were able …
Minister.
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, that is actually a very good question. This Act was written in 1956. There are so many parts to this legislation. We felt that it was very important for us to ensure that we dealt with this in a way that we were able to consider each section. And this was an opportunity for us to look at the law and to look at this stage by stage. We believe that it was not in best practice to start with a whole new Act. We believe that we can look at this with some amendments. Going into creating . . . the first controversy surrounding this change around mixed status family would have created confusion. To attempt to introduce a new Act, though appealing on the surface, would have been a very divisive approach for the country. And the Government has pledged to executive imm igration reform in a collaborative and a bipartisan way. Again, introducing a new Act would have led to uncharted waters, legally. And without much legal precedent and case law behind it, this would have led to legal uncertainty. And thirdly, the policy development process and the management of change require resources. Undertaking the review of the entire Immigration Act would require a tremendous amount of resources. The Ministry would understand that everything that we have done, Mr. Speaker, just with reference to the mixed status pieces —just with this part — has taken us with consultative parts going back to our respective caucuses, going to the community. This part alone has taken us 18 months, dealing with belongers, PRCs, everything else. It would have taken us several more months. This Act of 1956, Mr. Speaker, has had over 100 amendments to it. We felt it best to look at this thing in the manner that we are doing it and focus on specific amendments, starting with the mixed status amendment, Mr. Speaker.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberNo, a second question.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWould you like to ask your own question, or would you like to ask a supplementary, because you haven’t . . .?
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberNo. I want to ask my own question.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, you need to come up and get put on the list, sir.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou have not put yourself on the list this morning. If you c ome and put your name on the list––I am going to acknowledge those on the list first. The other Member who has indicated . . . Member Tyrrell, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: …
Mr. N eville S. TyrrellThank you and good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question to the Minister is just for clarification. The PLP in its manifesto said that we would do this process in a bipartisan manner. Can the Minister confirm that this matter w as conducted as such?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The entire process was done in a bipartisan manner. Actually, as said in the Statement, we had a number of stakehol ders throughout our community who had been a part [of it]. But with reference to the bipartisan, we had MP Benjamin Smith …
Minister.
Hon. Wayne Caines: Yes, Mr. Speaker. The entire process was done in a bipartisan manner. Actually, as said in the Statement, we had a number of stakehol ders throughout our community who had been a part [of it]. But with reference to the bipartisan, we had MP Benjamin Smith and MP Leah Scott from the OBA. We had a time where they represented the One Ber-muda Alliance. And throughout the entire process, they were integral parts at every stage. Nothing was done wit hout their approval. Nothing was done without
Bermuda House of Assembly their input. They were a part of every process. They are part of the process.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? No supplementary. The next one on the list is the Opposition Leader. Honourable Member, wo uld you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES BILL Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. The Honourable Minister …
Thank you. Supplementary? No supplementary. The next one on the list is the Opposition Leader. Honourable Member, wo uld you like to put your question?
QUESTION 1: TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES BILL
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. The Honourable Minister mentioned it has taken about 18 months to get to this point and mentions also, on page 2, in the different phases that we were moving through this reform. Just curious as to whether or not he set a timeline for himself or an approximate time for the next phase as we move through this important area?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: I have learned, Mr. Speaker, we were supposed to bring this phase in July. We were then supposed to bring this next phase in September. What we have realised is that we are going to debate this Bill in the not -too-distant future. We …
Thank you. Minister.
Hon. Wayne Caines: I have learned, Mr. Speaker, we were supposed to bring this phase in July. We were then supposed to bring this next phase in September. What we have realised is that we are going to debate this Bill in the not -too-distant future. We have to show that we are doing our sums. The people of Bermuda will say that the mixed status piece has taken too long. I think what we were able to show is that we have legislation which has been comprehensive, that we have been co llaborative in our scope and that we believe that the legislation is indeed fit for purpose. The bipartisan immigration reform group will not be disbanded. We believe that we have a key piece that we will discuss next. When that part of the legislation is discussed, we actually have to go back to this country again. We have to [work] piece by piece. The people of Bermuda should know that this is something that is important to the people of Berm uda. But we again have to do this with the people of Bermuda i n lockstep with us. And what this means is that as we discuss it, we have to go back to our people and share with them what the next steps are. And as much . . . Mr. Speaker, I learned through that last process that we have to go to the people with it. And so, as much as I would like to say it will be by Cup Match of this year, I have learned from the error of my ways. And what we will do is start the pr ocess and allow the process to take place with di spatch. And we believe that it will remain a work in pr ogress, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Supplementary? No supplementary. The next Member on the order is the Honourable Member Commissiong. Would you like to ask your question? QUESTION 1: TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMILI ES BILL
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongThank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Minister: Minister, you have talked about the benefit of these proposed changes. To Bermudians who have had children born overseas — for example, for myself, my new granddaughter was born only a few months ago in the UK —how will this allow people in …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Minister: Minister, you have talked about the benefit of these proposed changes. To Bermudians who have had children born overseas — for example, for myself, my new granddaughter was born only a few months ago in the UK —how will this allow people in that category to be able to achieve rightly their status in Bermuda without having to jump through a lot of hoops?
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I think we will debate the Bill in earnest at the ti me. But we believe this process will make it a lot easier for Bermudians who are living abroad. The purpose of this Bill . . . there are a number of Bermudians who have had children abroad. This will give Bermudians who have had young people abroad the opportunity to come back to Bermuda and to come back to a country that has lo ving arms and is ready for them to repatriate and come back to their homes.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Supplementary? No supplementary. The next Member who would like to put a question is the Member Pearman. Would you like to put your question?
Mr. Scott PearmanThank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. And Minister, thank you for your present ation. And really, for the benefit of the listening pu blic, although you have already said it, this Bill will come on for a full and substantive debate in the next few weeks. So this is not …
Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. And Minister, thank you for your present ation. And really, for the benefit of the listening pu blic, although you have already said it, this Bill will come on for a full and substantive debate in the next few weeks. So this is not the full and substantive d ebate. And so such questions as we have are just questions limited to your Statement.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJust on the Statement and not on the Bill that will be tabled.
Mr. Scott PearmanIndeed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for that clarification. But that is really for the benefit of the listening audience, who may not appreciate the way the procedures work.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. QUESTION 1: TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES BILL
Mr. Scott PearmanMinister, my question is this, and I think I have understood what you said in your Stat e3400 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly ment; it was very clear. But I think it is helpful just to pose the question again to ma ke sure that …
Minister, my question is this, and I think I have understood what you said in your Stat e3400 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly ment; it was very clear. But I think it is helpful just to pose the question again to ma ke sure that everyone has understood it. This Bill is dealing with three i ssues. Two you mentioned, repatriation and mixed status families. It is also, as I read the Bill, dealing with adoption, although I did not hear mention of adoption. What it is not dealing with is . . . if I understood you correc tly, it is not dealing with PRC, and it is not dea ling with status. Have I correctly summarised that Bill? Hon. Wayne Caines: That is correct, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Wayne Caines: That i s correct, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSecond question then. QUESTION 2: TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES BILL
Mr. Scott PearmanAnd, Minister, likewise this Bill is not, as I think you said in your Statement, retrospec-tive. And as I understand that, what that means is if there is a child born after this Bill passes, this Bill will affect that child. If there is a child who has already been …
And, Minister, likewise this Bill is not, as I think you said in your Statement, retrospec-tive. And as I understand that, what that means is if there is a child born after this Bill passes, this Bill will affect that child. If there is a child who has already been born prior to this Bill being passed, this will not have retrospective effect in relation to that ch ild. Have I correctly understood that, Minister?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Wayne Caines: That is correct. That is correct, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as was said by the Learned Member, we will have the opportunity to go through the substantive Bill l ine by line, precept upon precept. And if there are any . . . this Bill is …
Minister.
Hon. Wayne Caines: That is correct. That is correct, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as was said by the Learned Member, we will have the opportunity to go through the substantive Bill l ine by line, precept upon precept. And if there are any . . . this Bill is nuanced. The Bill has a number of specific nuances through the Bill. And we have the opportunity line by line, precept upon precept to go through the Bill at the appropriate time.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary or is this another question?
Mr. Scott PearmanSo thank you for that clarific ation. And I am grateful. And there will be a substantive deba te coming on. And I just simply thank the Minister and his committee for their efforts.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI thought you were putting a question to him. The next Member who has a question is the Honourable Member Richards. Honourable Member, you have the floor. QUESTION 1: TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES BILL Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this was …
I thought you were putting a question to him. The next Member who has a question is the Honourable Member Richards. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
QUESTION 1: TABLING THE REPATRIATION AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES BILL Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this was addressed by my colleague. I wanted to ask about the repatriation issue regarding Bermudians with children born overseas. The Bill does not make any legislative changes in this regard. So I am curious why this was not considered at this time.
[Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Right.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIf you are going to answer, you can stand to yo ur feet. Mr. Richards, thank you. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I would ask that the question be repeated. I was asked, and I did not hear the question. I apologise for not speaking into the microphone, Mr. Speaker. …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary? Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: I am going to restate my question.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerRestate it? Okay. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Yes. The Minister did not hear me. Regarding the repatriation issue which surrounds Bermudi ans with children born overseas, this Bill does not make any legislative change in terms of its being retroactive. I am curious why it is not retroactive. Bermuda …
Restate it? Okay. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Yes. The Minister did not hear me. Regarding the repatriation issue which surrounds Bermudi ans with children born overseas, this Bill does not make any legislative change in terms of its being retroactive. I am curious why it is not retroactive.
Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, this is not the appropriate time. At the appropriate time we will go into this, during the debate stage, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. What it is you do not want to a nticipate the debate when the debate comes. Your questions should purely be around what is written in the Statement today. And expect that there will be full debate at the appropriate time with the Bill that is to be tabled …
Yes. What it is you do not want to a nticipate the debate when the debate comes. Your questions should purely be around what is written in the Statement today. And expect that there will be full debate at the appropriate time with the Bill that is to be tabled to support the Statement. Any further questions? None. That brings us to a close of the Question Period. And we can move on.
CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWould any Member like to rise this morning? Everybody is going up and down. Who is first? Minister of Works, you have your three minutes.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Bu rchMr. Speaker, I would like to give congratulations to the African Methodist Episcopal Church. Whilst I am not an AME, I think I am probably the closest friend they have probably had who is not a member in good and proper standing at the commencement of their 134 th session …
Mr. Speaker, I would like to give congratulations to the African Methodist Episcopal Church. Whilst I am not an AME, I think I am probably the closest friend they have probably had who is not a member in good and proper standing at the commencement of their 134 th session of the Bermuda Annual Conference yesterday. And I would like to congratulate them on that. But I would particularly like to express my personal thanks to the Right Re verend Gregory Gerald McKinley Ingram, the presiding prelate of the F irst Episcopal District which includes Bermuda, and the Reverend Dr. Jessica Kendall I ngram, the Episcopal Supervisor who had been in charge of the First District for eight years. And this will be their last conference, Mr. Speaker. And I must say, and th is is a compliment to the bishop, he could have been a soldier. Because the way he runs that church and the district is with prec ision and accuracy and decisiveness. Were he to qua lify for status, I would invite him to run for a seat in this House, because we could use some of that in this place, Mr. Speaker.
[Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchSince we are giving it to everybody else that appears. Mr. Speaker, don’t say you are giving away anything to anybody anyhow. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to congratulate the Pastor of St. Paul. Yesterday he gave a message, Mr. Speaker, that probably should be repeated across the broadcast …
Since we are giving it to everybody else that appears. Mr. Speaker, don’t say you are giving away anything to anybody anyhow. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to congratulate the Pastor of St. Paul. Yesterday he gave a message, Mr. Speaker, that probably should be repeated across the broadcast —it was broadcast across the country. I hope they will broadcast it again. And it was about operating outside of the box .
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes. Good words.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Speaker, it was a message not just for AMEs. It was a message for people across this country and across the world, as far as I am concerned. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to extend c ongratulations to Keep Bermuda Beautiful [KBB], who held their annual general meeting …
Mr. Speaker, it was a message not just for AMEs. It was a message for people across this country and across the world, as far as I am concerned. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to extend c ongratulations to Keep Bermuda Beautiful [KBB], who held their annual general meeting last night. And I was so pleased to not only be present, because the Mini stry supports them and I am a member. But I was more than pleased to see that a young Bermudian, Stefan Smith, has assumed the presidency of the KBB, Mr. Speaker. And their mantra is to transition to younger members, even though currently the outgoing pres ident, Amy Shillingford, is going on to be secretary to support him. By their constitution, they as a general principle and rule are making an aggressive and pr oactive attempt to bring young people into the organi-sation so it naturally thrives. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe recognise the Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member, you hav e the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to congratulate two men whom all of us do know. First of all, Trevor Lindsay, who has the TNN media, social media communic …
We recognise the Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member, you hav e the floor.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to congratulate two men whom all of us do know. First of all, Trevor Lindsay, who has the TNN media, social media communic ations business has done the first of a TNN Com muni ty Impact Award. And he awarded it to Pastor Leroy Bean. I had the privilege of being with former Minister Weeks in presenting this. We know that Pas tor Leroy Bean has worked very closely with the Minister of N ational Security. And we want to just con gratulate him for . . . it sounded as if almost 40- plus years of his dedication to those who have been disen franchised, of our young people who have found themselves in compromising positions within. . . pos itions of being associated with gangs and the likes. His résumé goes back to quite a bit. And so I just wanted to thank Trevor Lindsay for coming up with this type of award and to also congratulate Pastor Leroy Bean for his being the first r ecipient of this Community Impact Award and the fine work that he has been doing for Bermuda. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 28. Honourable Member Lister, you have the floor.
Mr. Dennis Lister IIIGood morning, Mr. Speaker. 3402 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Good morning.
Mr. Dennis Lister IIIGood morning to the listening public. I just want to first recognise that today is I nternational Women’s Day, the day of the woman. And hopefully I can associate the whole House with this.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerEverybody is asking, Where is your purple?
Mr. Dennis Lister IIIThere you go. But, Mr. Speaker, I think it is even more fitting that on this day, March 6th, 2020, we have International Women’s Day . I have to highlight and send congratulations to a woman who has basically made me who I am today. Today, Mr. Speaker, is the …
There you go. But, Mr. Speaker, I think it is even more fitting that on this day, March 6th, 2020, we have International Women’s Day . I have to highlight and send congratulations to a woman who has basically made me who I am today. Today, Mr. Speaker, is the 65th birthday of my mother, your wife, who is actually in the Gallery today.
[Desk thumping]
Mr. Dennis Lis ter IIII would just like to say to my mother, Happy Birthday! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order. [Laughter] POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member must be misleading the Hous e! There is no way …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. I think she was pleased to hear that part. How is that? [Laughter]
Mr. Dennis Lister IIIBut I think also, Mr. Speaker, it is even fitting that as a schoolteacher, my whole life (I go 35). So my whole life I have known my mother to be a teacher. And she has brought with her her most recent students from Dellwood Middle School. So as you …
But I think also, Mr. Speaker, it is even fitting that as a schoolteacher, my whole life (I go 35). So my whole life I have known my mother to be a teacher. And she has brought with her her most recent students from Dellwood Middle School. So as you see in the Gallery, she has brought some st udents to just com e in to see how the Parliament operates in Bermuda. But as I said, she has a history of teaching. And so it is only fitting that she continues to keep her students aware of how Bermuda’s Gover nment operates. And on this, her birthday, that she is willing t o share it with her students. So, Mr. Speaker, I would like to send congratulations. Thank you. [Desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Thank you, Honourable Member. Honourable Member Ming, I see you on your feet. [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou should have associated the whole House, right. Yes.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberMr. Speaker, you are not going to associate yourself?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, I will do mine before I close. How is that? Honourable Member Ming, y ou have the floor.
Mrs. Renee MingGood morning, listening audience and Mr. Speaker. First of all, I would like to be associated with the comments with regard to the AME Annual Confer-ence. And I also would like to congratulate organisers of Internationa l Women’s Day 2020. This year’s theme is actually Each for Equal. In the …
Good morning, listening audience and Mr. Speaker. First of all, I would like to be associated with the comments with regard to the AME Annual Confer-ence. And I also would like to congratulate organisers of Internationa l Women’s Day 2020. This year’s theme is actually Each for Equal. In the sense that if we are women who are empowered, you would be surprised what we can do. And so as we continue to strive for parity with our male counterparts, each year we recognise this day. But it also lets us see that we have much work to do because that gender parity really is not coming for us for 100 years. I may not be around to see it, Mr. Speaker. But I hope that we continue to strive for it. Mr. Speaker, I say this to you all t he time, and now I have the proof of it today. Two days ago the St. George’s Community Centre was awarded the Centre of the Year! Mr. Speaker, when I got that news, you know I say, I say this all the time in the House of A ssembly about the centre . I say it to you all the time! I say it is the best centre. But now even Bermuda thinks it is the best centre, Mr. Speaker. And in addition to that, Mr. Speaker . . . so that is, you know, some rights for the next year at least. The Community Centre worker, Employ ee of the Year was none other than Caprial Dill, who is actually well known to me. But she is actually out of the St. George’s Community Centre. So I just want to congratulate the workers down at the St. George’s Com-munity Centre. I know them. I grew up wi th them. And I associate the entire House with those comments, actually, Mr. Speaker. They work really hard. They put
Bermuda House of Assembly a lot of themselves into what that centre is. They look for programmes which span across everything from . . . we joke about it, but we sa y from zero to 100. But they really truly try to be actively involved and interact within our community. And I would just like to use my time today to congratulate and thank them for all that they do.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Before . . . Minister , are you on your feet? But before I call . . . (No, you already spoke, Minister.) ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITORS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerBefore I call to acknowledge the next person, let me just acknowledge that, yes, it was men-tioned that Dellwood Sc hool are with us this morning. We have present the M3s and M2s, a mixture of st udents from Dellwood with Mrs. Lister and Mr. Bean. And I would just …
Before I call to acknowledge the next person, let me just acknowledge that, yes, it was men-tioned that Dellwood Sc hool are with us this morning. We have present the M3s and M2s, a mixture of st udents from Dellwood with Mrs. Lister and Mr. Bean. And I would just like to acknowledge both of the teachers this morning for the fine work that our st udents do, and [the fine work] the teachers do with our students, and to bring them here this morning to at least observe a little of what goes on here on a regular basis.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd with that, would a ny other Member like to do congratulations? I recognise the Honourable Member De Silva. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning for the House to acknowledg e …
And with that, would a ny other Member like to do congratulations? I recognise the Honourable Member De Silva. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning for the House to acknowledg e the accomplishments by two people whom I have been lucky to interact with over the last week and a half. You will know that there was a pr ogramme launched earlier a few weeks back, Learn to Earn, trying to get our young people into . . . well, our young people are walking out the door now. (That is unfortunate.) But be that as it may, we are trying to get not only our young people, but our Bermudians in the hospitality industry. And I have spoken about that many, several times over the last couple of mont hs. But two young people I would like to highlight that I have had the . . . because when they are doing this programme, Mr. Speaker, they have on their shirts Proud of the Hospitality Learn to Earn Pr ogramme. So they are easily identifiable. And I have been to two restaurants in the last week. And I have met two young people, Denise Dill and K iara Lee. And they are proud of this programme. And if you had not heard, or if you are one of those colleagues in the House who do not remember, these folks who are part of the first cohort are actually getting paid $500 a week to be trained, which is an awesome programme that we have that bodes well for the future. But I would like to highlight this young lady Kiara Lee in particular . Because when I talked to her, Mr. Speaker, I said, Look. What are your goals? What do you hope, to be a ma ître d’ one day or a head waiter or waitress? Because she is a young lady, a head waitress. And she said, Listen. I’ll tell you what I want to do. I want to own a restaurant boat. That’s my dream. That’s my goal. And I encouraged her. I said, Well, listen. If that is your dream and goal, go for it. Don’t let anybody tell you you cannot do it. And stay in touch with me. So I just thought that this programme . . . and you have heard me say many times, Mr. Speaker, you have been to enough events, and you know that I a lways encourage our young people. And Pat Gordon - Pamplin is here listening, because she attends just about all the Youth Parliaments we go to. And you will know, she will certainly know I always encourage our young people. Look. It is okay to climb the corporate ladder. But there is nothing wrong with owning it either. And this young lady, whom I had not spoken to, had not met before, said that she wants to own her own rest aurant boat. And I thought I would highlight that because any of our . . . even our parents who are listening. Encourage our children to go to school, get an education. But let us encourage our people to be entrepreneurs and owners of their own businesses. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Honourable Member Commissiong.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, belatedly I would like to assoc iate myself with the expressions of condolence offered by this House to the family of Mr. Ed Durham. Mr. Durham was actually my first club coach at PHC. We were the PCH Whites, and you had the PHC …
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongYes. We a re talking about the late 1960s, actually maybe around about 1967 and 1968 when I first started. But getting back to Mr. Durham, Mr. Durham was a quintessential Bermudian gentleman. And I guess in coaching terms, I guess you would call him a players’ coac h because …
Yes. We a re talking about the late 1960s, actually maybe around about 1967 and 1968 when I first started. But getting back to Mr. Durham, Mr. Durham was a quintessential Bermudian gentleman. And I guess in coaching terms, I guess you would call him a players’ coac h because the way he handled us young boys and tried to convey to us the principles of the game, it stayed with us long after we had moved on through teenage years and adulthood. So it was with great regret to talk about his passing. 3404 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Secondly, congratulat ions to Mr. Kenny Bascome [sic] and the North Village team, now North Vi llage Rams on successfully winning the Premier Div ision league. And congratulations to all of them.
[Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongKenny Thompson. Sorry. What did I say, Kenny Bascome? Yes. No. Kenny Thompson and North Village for successfully winning the Premier Division league title. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member? I recognise the Member sit ting next to you. Honourable Member Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not know how I missed this. But I believe I am associating myself …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member? I recognise the Member sit ting next to you. Honourable Member Scott, you have the floor.
Hon. Michael J. Scott: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not know how I missed this. But I believe I am associating myself with the cond olences to the family of a great matriarch of Somerset, Ms. Mary Gloria Simmons, the mother of . . . the Mi nister of Health, the Honourable Kim Wilson wants to be associated. And I know why she would wish to be. I am sure that she was her constituent. Yes, she was the Minister’s constituent. So, Mary Gloria Simmons, the mother of Melvin and Warren (who is deceased), Marita.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMarita, yes. Hon. Michael J. Scott: The aunt of the Hortons, the former Speaker of this House; former Permanent Secretary, Mr. Robert Horton; and a former educator , Ms. Ellen -Kate Horton; and June Horton. Ms. Simmons clearly was a great matriarch of Somerset, and I offer the condolences of …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Good morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I would ask that this Honourable House do send condolences to the family of the late Ms. Dorothy Mills, who passed earl ier this week, and in particular without ques tion, I will associate the whole House. And of course, Mr. …
Yes. Good morning.
Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I would ask that this Honourable House do send condolences to the family of the late Ms. Dorothy Mills, who passed earl ier this week, and in particular without ques tion, I will associate the whole House. And of course, Mr. Speaker, condolences to our dear colleague, MP N eville Tyrrell, as it was his mother, Ms. Dorothy Mills, who passed away earlier this week. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to associate myself with the condolences which were given prev iously to Ms. Mary Simmons from Somerset. In addition, Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be associated with the condolences which were given in this House on Wednesday on the passing of Mr. Glenn Simmons. I happened to know Mr. Simmons very well. “Dingback” was without question someone who was known and loved, a fierce fighter for justice, a person whom we call an ambassador for Bermuda. His work with our unions, his commitment to the people of Bermuda always went above and beyond the call of duty. Without question, for us the Progressive Labour Party, he was a life member of the PLP. He was someone who worked inside of the trenches in the Progressive Labour Party when called upon, and without question will be a miss. So I sincerely would like to associate myself with the condolences to his family and to his friends, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda has lost a giant in that man. And the labour movement, without question, has lost someone who was a very staunch defender of workers’ ri ghts and the rights for Bermudians inside of this country. Mr. Speaker, in another note, I would like to extend congratulations. And I would like to congrat ulate the six students of the Berkeley Institute who par-ticipated in the Virtual Enterprise International pr ogramme in New York to promote their Leisure in the Triangle business. I was impressed with the creativity and innovation of these bright students, who promoted Bermuda- inspired merchandise, and congratulate them on bringing home silver awards for the best website and HR manual, and a gold award for best boot design. It is exciting to see our young people working on their own business ventures and getting international exposure at the Virtual Enterprises trade show. So I would like to send my thank s and congratulations, of course, to the parents and teachers who assisted these talented students, and I certainly wish all of those six students success. Finally, in closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the remarks given by the Member for constituency 21 of congratulations to the North Village Community Club Rams for their first Premier title in nine years, and extend the congratulations to Coach Kenny Thompson, as well as Assistant Randy Bean. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Prem ier. Any other Member? We recognise the Honourable Member F amous. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Christopher FamousMr. Speaker, firs t off, I want to s end condolences to the family of Ms. Marie Pacheco of Devonshire. Bermuda House of Assembly Moving on, Mr. Speaker, I would like to join in the condolences to the Tyrrell and Mills family for a lady whom I rightfully should be …
Mr. Speaker, firs t off, I want to s end condolences to the family of Ms. Marie Pacheco of Devonshire.
Bermuda House of Assembly Moving on, Mr. Speaker, I would like to join in the condolences to the Tyrrell and Mills family for a lady whom I rightfully should be calling aunt, Dorothy Mills. What the Premier did not speak about was that she was a proud St. George’s supporter , so proud that she made 95 “runs,” almost a century. What he did not say as well was she was a proud pond dog. More importantly, as importantly, Mr. Speaker, what was not said and what will be said right now is that she was a mother of three sons and one daughter. One son I would say was a dedicated son, so dedicated that none of his constituents could find him on a Tuesday. And one might ask, Why was that? Because every Tuesday without fail, her son went to take care of his mother, spend time with his mother. And that is a lesson for all of us in this House and all of us in this community, that as we have parents who are ageing, we might not be able to take a whole day because not all of us are retired and living that life. But take time to spend with your parents, because not all of our parents are going to reach 95 runs. Not all are going to reach 90. Whatever time our parents are going to reach, let us take time to spend with t hem whether it be parents, aunts, uncles or godparents, because they have invaluable life lessons to teach us. So on behalf of the Famous/Brown family, I want to give condolences to my big brother/cousin Neville Tyrrell. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s. Honourable Member Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanYes, good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be as sociated with the Honourable Member from constituency 28, who sent congratulations out to his mother, Ms. Miranda Lister, a lady whom you know very well —
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanAnd congratulate her on attaining that milestone, and thank her for the years of service with the young people of Bermuda, especially those through Youth Parliament, of which she has piloted many young people through Youth Parliament and gave mentorship in that regard. I associate myself with the condolences to …
And congratulate her on attaining that milestone, and thank her for the years of service with the young people of Bermuda, especially those through Youth Parliament, of which she has piloted many young people through Youth Parliament and gave mentorship in that regard. I associate myself with the condolences to the Tyrrell, Brother Tyrrell, Neville Tyrrell’s family on the passing of his mother. And may he be comforted by the many good mem ories that he has and all the good work that she has done. And also, I would like to be associated with the condolences that were offered—formally associate myself with the condolences that were offered to my dear friend, Glenn Simmons. Growing up in Death Valley, White Hill community, was Joe Simmons , through the connection of the country growing up in the Portuguese and black community, growing up t ogether, playing all types of sports together and around the farms and the like. And it is through golf that Glenn was able to show some true talents, lived in the shadow of a great brother, Richard “Dirt” Simmons in football. He was a gritty footballer, Glenn. But you know, when you have got Dirt Simmons as your brother, it is a hard act to follow —a hard act to follow. But when Glenn took up golf, my Uncle Herman always used to tell me, The best hands in golf. One of the most powerf ul golfers I had ever seen, pound for pound, he hit a five- iron as far as most people could hit a driver. When Evan “the Big Cat” Wi lliams came here, tiny Glenn would walk up to him and look up to him and puff up his chest. I can handle you. That is the ty pe of character he was. But I want to thank the Bermuda Industrial Union and his union family, because Glenn’s talents were recognised in trade unionism, and he was polished and developed. And, you know, he made us all very proud to see him standing should er-to-shoulder with the leadership and being Vice President of the Bermuda Industrial Union. When you come from White Hill and that community, and to see Glenn holding his own in that stature, it made us all very proud. We are very sad. I know his family. I grew up in and out of his house. Diane, his sister, Donna and the whole family there, and his father, his late father and mother. Yes, that Whale Bay family stretching all the way to Somerset and across the Island. Yes, we are very sad about Glenn.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member — We recognise the Honourable Member Gordon-Pamplin. You have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I join in the condolences that have been offered to our honourable colleague Neville Tyrrell and, obviously we …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member — We recognise the Honourable Member Gordon-Pamplin. You have the floor.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I join in the condolences that have been offered to our honourable colleague Neville Tyrrell and, obviously we did not each get to speak on the previous week in terms of our condolences to honourable colleague Commissiong, I note, Mr. Speaker, that there are probably one or two theories. Either we are getting much older or we are stressing our parents to death. I cannot quite figure out which it is. Because we have actually had the opportunity here to acknowledge and to commiserate with our col-leagues on many occasions since I have been in this House on the death of a parent. So I certainly know. Honourable Member Tyrrell and I go back from central school days, so probably the better part of 60- something years. I will not say how many the something’s are. But certainly knowing the home in which he was raised, it was your typical type of home that we were experiencing as children of the neig h3406 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly bourhood, because he lived not too far from me. So I certainly offer my condolences, or join in with the condolences that have been offered to my honourable colleague. Let me also ask, Mr. Speaker, that I send condolences to the family of Joy Agass -Smith. Ms. Smith gained prominence, if you can call it that, way back in the late 1950s when she became the mother of, I believe, one of the first sets of triplets or certainly among the first sets of triplets. She was the mother to the Miller triplets, who were Philippa, Margaret and Elizabeth. I had the occasion to work with Joy for quite a significant period of time. She actually was the r eceptionist at KPMG while I was there as an accountant, working on their staff. And her loss is certainly one that will be felt by those three young women who are her daughters. And her legacy will certainly live on through her children and through her grandchildren, Mr. Speaker. And also, I would like to offer my congratul ations and join in on the congratulations on the 65 th birthday of your bride, Mr. Speaker. I had the opportunity, as you know, when we were chairing the Parliamentary Conference fairly recently to have far more interaction with her than I had ever had before. And I had the appreciation of who she is as an individual. I would just offer one reminder, Mr. Speaker, that at the age of 65, she can make sure that she registers for her pension. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
[Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI will remind her of that. How is that? Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? Honourable Member Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. TyrrellThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first of all let me associate m yself with th e congratulations to the North Village Community Club on winning the Premier Division, first time in nine years. I would also like to be associated with the congratulations to a fine young lady whom …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first of all let me associate m yself with th e congratulations to the North Village Community Club on winning the Premier Division, first time in nine years. I would also like to be associated with the congratulations to a fine young lady whom you know, Ms. Miranda Lister. She and I had connections, party connections. I always felt that she was one elegant lady. That is how I would describe her. While I am on my feet, Mr. Speaker, if you will allow me, I would like to thank my colleagues for their expressions of kindness on the passing of my mother. It is something that the family is coming to grips with. And as mentioned by my colleague cousin, those Tuesday mornings that I spent with my mum were well spent. It is something that we came to an agreement on. It is about the only time that I could actually give her some time. And it was good times. And I would certainly like to thank everyone again for the kindness that you have shown. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to . . . We recognise t he Honourable Member Ha yward. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Jason HaywardI would like to accept the co ngratulations on behalf of the North Village Community Club. [Laughter]
Mr. Jason HaywardI am a former vice president of the club and current member. But I am certainly pleased with the North Village Rams, and I also ex-tend my congratulations to the team. I also want to extend congratulations to the organisers of the International Women’s Day. As active members of the …
I am a former vice president of the club and current member. But I am certainly pleased with the North Village Rams, and I also ex-tend my congratulations to the team. I also want to extend congratulations to the organisers of the International Women’s Day. As active members of the Labour Movement for over a dec-ade, we have been actively pushing to get recognition to International Women’s Day. And it has finally caught the steam that it actually requires. The unions have been active participants in ensuring that there is equality in the workplace between men and women. And you will find that many of the organised bargai ning units . . .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou are on a good path. Continue on.
Mr. Jason HaywardAnd you will find that in most organised bargaining units there is a level of parity that needs to be achieved outside of unionised env ironments. But nothing to take away from women on this day. I ce rtainly want to say that women played an extremely important role in …
And you will find that in most organised bargaining units there is a level of parity that needs to be achieved outside of unionised env ironments. But nothing to take away from women on this day. I ce rtainly want to say that women played an extremely important role in my life and my development. And I want to congratulate all of the women on International Women’s Day.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member? We re cognise the Honourable Member, Ms. Jeanne Atherden. You have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to have this House send condolences to the family of the late Ian Brown. Ian …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member? We re cognise the Honourable Member, Ms. Jeanne Atherden. You have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to have this House send condolences to the family of the late Ian Brown. Ian was one of those individuals w ho was at EngravBermuda House of Assembly ers [Ltd.] and was in the printing industry for such a long time. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I associate Kim and Pat —I mean, sorry —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHonourable Members. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Honourable Members Kim Swan and Pat Gordon- Pamplin. If you ever needed anything as it relates to printing and you need something quickly done, you could call Ian, and you knew for sure that he was go-ing to make it happen. I also knew …
Honourable Members.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Honourable Members Kim Swan and Pat Gordon- Pamplin. If you ever needed anything as it relates to printing and you need something quickly done, you could call Ian, and you knew for sure that he was go-ing to make it happen. I also knew that Ian afterwards started to play golf. And he was one of those keen individuals. And as everyone appreciates, when someone dies you suddenly realise that you are going to miss them. And I keep telling all of us in the House here, anybody whom you know and love, please go home and hug them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood advice, Madam. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member. We will move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR TH E ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are two Bills to be introduced this morning. The first is in the name of the Minister of Health. FIRST READING HEALTH INSURANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2020 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be put on …
There are two Bills to be introduced this morning. The first is in the name of the Minister of Health.
FIRST READING
HEALTH INSURANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2020
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be put on the order paper for the next day of meeting, namely, the Health Insurance Amendment Act 2020.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The second Bill this morning is in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister. FIRST READING BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION AMENDMENT ACT 2020 Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so …
Thank you, Minister. The second Bill this morning is in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister.
FIRST READING
BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION AMENDMENT ACT 2020
Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the Bermuda Immigration and Protection Amendment Act 2020.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. NOTICE OF MOTION S
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers , particularly for those in the listening audience as well, we are at that point where we will now resume into Committee of Supply to di scuss the annual Budget Debate. And again for t he listening public, once we get to that stage, the Speaker is out of …
Members , particularly for those in the listening audience as well, we are at that point where we will now resume into Committee of Supply to di scuss the annual Budget Debate. And again for t he listening public, once we get to that stage, the Speaker is out of the House, and the proceedings will be in the hands of the Deputy Speaker, as the head of the Panel of Chairs. And the Member of the Panel of Chairs this morning who will lead this sessi on is the Member, Mr. Commissiong. But I will first call on the Minister of Finance to lead us into Committee.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now resume in Committee of Supply for further consider ation of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2020/21.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAre there any objections? No objection. We will now move into Commit tee, and Honourable Member Commissiong, you can have the Chair. House in Committee at 11:14 am [Mr. Rolfe C ommissiong, Chairman.] 3408 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE …
The ChairmanChairmanGood morning, Members. Honourable Members, we are now in Commi ttee of Supply for further consideration of the Es timates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2020/21. We will be deliberating on Public Works and the following Heads —which would be 36, 49, 53, 68, 81, 82 and 97. …
Good morning, Members. Honourable Members, we are now in Commi ttee of Supply for further consideration of the Es timates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2020/21. We will be deliberating on Public Works and the following Heads —which would be 36, 49, 53, 68, 81, 82 and 97. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor, the Honourable Lieutenant Colonel Burch.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThank you, Mr. Chai rman. So am I correct that we are starting at 11:14, five hours? So we will end 4:14?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchOh, yes. We have to be at lunch. Yes. I do not plan on going all the way through. We need to stop for lunch. [Laughter] MINISTRY OF PUBLIC WORKS
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, I move that the following Heads —36, the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters; 49, Land Valuation; 53, Berm uda Housing Corporation; 68, the Department of Parks; 81, the Department of Public Lands and Buildings; 82, the Department of Works and Engineering; and 97, the Department of Land Title …
The ChairmanChairmanYou may proceed. HEAD 36 —MINISTRY OF PUBLIC WORKS HEADQUARTERS
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Ministry of Public Works is responsible for maintaining Bermuda’s critical assets and infrastructure. In fact, Public Works is the lead agent in delivering the infr astructure requirements upon which so many of the services provided to this Island depend. Some of the assets and infrastructure that the …
Mr. Chairman, the Ministry of Public Works is responsible for maintaining Bermuda’s critical assets and infrastructure. In fact, Public Works is the lead agent in delivering the infr astructure requirements upon which so many of the services provided to this Island depend. Some of the assets and infrastructure that the Ministry is respons ible for include building and maintaining the following: • 617 roads amounting to 225 kilometres of road surface; • 751 buildings —which probably should be r educed to 749 since we knocked down 2 last week ; • 85 public docks and purpose- built berths servicing cruise ships, cargo ships and hundreds of private vessels and yachts each year; • five reservoirs with a capacity of 2.5 million gallons of Bermuda’s precious and very li mited water resource; • 75 amenity parks, beaches and school grounds protected under the Bermuda N ational Parks Act 1986; and • Ocean View and Port Royal Golf Courses . Mr. Chairman, it cannot be overstated how critical this vast and diverse Ministry is to Bermuda and why it is so important that every possible opportunity must be grasped to maximise the economic benefits that the capital expenditures of this Ministry provide. This includes establishing private sector par tnerships to ensure the government’s assets and infr astructure are maintained while simultaneously generating economic opportunities within the construction sector. Therefore, the maintenance and enhancement of our infrastructure and facilities must remain a prior ity because infrastructure development is a vital com-ponent in encouraging a country’s economic growth. Mr. Chairm an, the total budget allocation to the Ministry for 2020/21 is found on page [B -213,] and the allocated amount is $73,259,000. This represents a decrease of $188,000 from the original 2019/20 budget. Mr. Chairman, the anticipated revenue for the Ministry is $17,734,000, an increase of $968,000 when compared to the original 2019/20 estimate. The Ministry’s total capital budget for 2020/21 is $44,571,000. This includes the capital development budget of $41,147,000 and the capital acquisitions of $3,424,000. T he Ministry Headquarters’ budget of $10,067,000 versus $7,942,000 last year, an increase of $2,125,000, reflects a grant to the golf courses for the preparation of the course for the Bermuda Championship of $1.15 million and an increase in the Office Reloc ations/Alterations budget. The Ministry’s established number of emplo yees, which is referred to as full -time equivalents [FTEs] for the fiscal year 2020/21 is 714, an increase of 3 when compared to the established number for the fiscal year, as seen on pa ge B -218. Of note, though, on that page is the actual number of staff presently of 620 with an increase of 20 during the last fiscal year. Mr. Chairman, there is a self -imposed moratorium on new hires which requires the specific and direct approval of the Minister before they can be processed or proceeded with. The overarching objective of the Ministry Headquarters (Finance and Administration) Head 36 is to provide centralised support to the departments within the Ministry, which includes Public Lands and
Bermuda House of Assembly Buildings, Works and Engineering, Land Valuation, Parks, and Land Title Registration to ensure delivery of their varied services and operating programmes. The services provided by the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters are organised into the following s ix programmes, which are found on page B -[215]: • 3601, Head Office Administration; • 3610 , Accounts; • 3611 , Purchasing; • 3612 , Telecommunications; • 3613 , Human Resources; and • 3614 , Architect and Design.
Head Office Administration —Programme 3601
Lt. Col. Hon. D avid A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Head Office Administration Programme 3601 com-prises Headquarters Administration (including Safety and Health) and Central Filing. Headquarters Admi nistration, under the direction of the Permanent Secr etary, provides oversight and management support to the entire Ministry of Public Works. It also ensures that the policy objectives are met, …
Mr. Chairman, the Head Office Administration Programme 3601 com-prises Headquarters Administration (including Safety and Health) and Central Filing. Headquarters Admi nistration, under the direction of the Permanent Secr etary, provides oversight and management support to the entire Ministry of Public Works. It also ensures that the policy objectives are met, and specifically is responsible for the implementation of the Ministry’s Throne Speech initiatives, yearly business plan, management of safety and health matters, compliance and numerous special administrative projects. During 2019/20, Mr. Chairman, the Safety and Health Office provided training to staff by offering a total of 208 hours of safety training, which was at-tended by 215 employees. The Ministry also conduc ted documented risk assessments to ascertain the risk that Ministry employees and the public are exposed to as a result of our activities. The training and asses sments will continue into 2020/21 so as to be in compliance with the requirements of the Occupational Safety and Health Act 1982 and the Occupational Safety and Health Regulations 2009. Mr. Chairman, the second area of support under the Head Office Administration is Central Filing, which provides records management for al l human resource records; Cabinet documents, and capital projects and contracts, and maintains records for the Ministry’s legislated functions. The operational budget for the Head Office Administration Programme 3601 is $2,216,000 for fiscal year 2020/21, a marginal increase of $27,000 over the current year.
Public Works Accounts —Programme 3610
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the A ccounts Programme 3610 provides accounts payable, accounts receivable, payroll, capital asset recording, and nonf inancial and financial reporting functions for the operating departments within the Ministry. This section also prepares and distributes weekly payroll, vendor cheques and invoices for services provided by the Ministry’s operational areas, …
Mr. Chairman, the A ccounts Programme 3610 provides accounts payable, accounts receivable, payroll, capital asset recording, and nonf inancial and financial reporting functions for the operating departments within the Ministry. This section also prepares and distributes weekly payroll, vendor cheques and invoices for services provided by the Ministry’s operational areas, as well as collection and recording of online bank payments, credit card, cash and cheque receipts. Through the use of the centralised accounting system, this section manages the yearly budget preparation and provides monthly management reports, a process which enables the effective and efficient monitoring and control of the Ministry’s current account budget along with the Mini stry’s capital development and capital acquisition budgets. Mr. Chairman, the Accounts Section’s focus for the fiscal year 2020/21 will continue t o be on i mproving the debt collection for the Ministry and wor king with the Accountant General on improving pr ocesses involving the E1 system. This includes payroll process, debt collection, vendor payments and ge neral reporting. The operational budget for the Accounts Pr ogramme 3610 is an amount of $1,146,000 for fiscal year 2020/21, a decrease of $18,000.
Purchasing —Programme 3611
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Purchasing Programme 3611 provides centralised purchasing support, inventor y management, and warehousing and disposal functions to the other departments and programmes within the Ministry and to other external departments from time to time. The Purchasing Section’s focus for the fiscal year 2020/21 will be on relocating to …
Mr. Chairman, the Purchasing Programme 3611 provides centralised purchasing support, inventor y management, and warehousing and disposal functions to the other departments and programmes within the Ministry and to other external departments from time to time. The Purchasing Section’s focus for the fiscal year 2020/21 will be on relocating to a cen tralised f acility; creating supply chain- related policies, proc edures, and end- user instructions for the Ministry; establishing supply contracts through competitive bi dding; and working with the Accountant General to maximise use of section- specific functi ons and capabilities of the E1 system, with a specific focus on i nventory control, contract pricing, and key performance indicators [KPI] reporting. Mr. Chairman, the Purchasing Programme 3611 operational budget is $1,417,000 for 2020/21, an increase of $48,000.
Telecommunications —Programme 3612
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Telecommunications Programme 3612 provides a suite of services such as replacement of telephones and related equipment, and management of mobile service contracts f or the Ministry. The programme also provides advice to department heads regarding call flows resulting in greater efficiencies and managing the implementation of new …
Mr. Chairman, the Telecommunications Programme 3612 provides a suite of services such as replacement of telephones and related equipment, and management of mobile service contracts f or the Ministry. The programme also provides advice to department heads regarding call flows resulting in greater efficiencies and managing the implementation of new technologies to maximise cost savings. The Government owns and operates a portfolio of sev en telecommunication tower sites across the islands, and the towers are located at Somerset Police Station, Alton Hill in Southampton, Warwick Camp, Com -ops in Prospect, the Quarry and Fort George. 3410 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Historically, the telecommunication tower faci lities have been managed by the Bermuda Police Service [BPS], as they were primarily installed to support their operational telecommunication requirements. In support of this use, the Department of Public Lands and Buildings [DPLB] assisted the BPS in managing the le tting enquiries from third- party telecom operators seeking to locate their own telecommunication equi pment on the Government’s tower portfolio. The department also manage any lease arrangements for third- party operators who have a pproached Government to use their buildings or land for their own telecommunication installations. In April 2017, the Ministry assumed responsibility of the to wers and commissioned structural surveys for each tower to establish their current condition, and also conducted surveys of each equipment cabin, air - conditioning and generator set. The structural surveys highlighted a lack of regular maintenance of the tel ecom towers themselves, which has resulted in every tower displaying various stages of corrosion. As these sites and inf rastructure are critical to operations and are of national importance, we have implemented a maintenance program and continue to carry out remediation works during this budget year for the issues identified. We will continue with proper planned maintenance schedules and make necessary adjustments to minimise the risk of failure in the f uture. This year a backup generator has been commissioned at the Quarry, and new air -conditioning units have been installed at Fort George, Prospect, Warwick Camp and Alton Hill. We have received Cabinet approval for the replacement of the tower at Pr ospect and will next seek approval for the replacement of the Fort George Communications Building. These two locations are in the worst state and require r eplacement. Mr. Chairm an, the Telecommunications Pr ogramme 3612 has been allocated an operational budget of $749,000, a decrease of $89,000 as a result of the implementation of the new Government radio network.
Human Resources— Programme 3613
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Human Resources Programme 3613 provides r ecruitment, employee relations and training, and deve lopment services to the various departments and staff within the Ministry. The role of the human resources team is to liaise and partner with the Department of Human Resources to provide human resources advice …
Mr. Chairman, the Human Resources Programme 3613 provides r ecruitment, employee relations and training, and deve lopment services to the various departments and staff within the Ministry. The role of the human resources team is to liaise and partner with the Department of Human Resources to provide human resources advice and guidance, as well as provide administrative support throughout the Ministry. In 2019/20, the H uman Resources Section continued to focus on the Ministry’s Basic Employee, Foreman and Superint endent Training Programme (known as BeFAST), suc-cession planning and recruiting for difficult -to-fill jobs and retirements, and the management of the Trainee and Apprentice Programmes. Mr. Chairman, the BeFAST Programme is now in its seventh year and has proven to be succes sful. Its objectives are to advance training, create c areer opportunities and build new working relationships with peers and staff, ultimately creating a team that speaks the same language, resulting in providing be tter service to our internal and external customers. Mr. Chairman, in 2019/20 for BeFAST we f ocused on computer introduction— Microsoft Excel, Word and Power Point —with the Information Digital Technology Department [IDT] and partnered with the Bermuda Industrial Union to coordi nate the Workshop on Understanding the Collective Bargaining Agreement. The Safety and Health Officer coordinated courses on safety and health in the workplace, the correct way to report incidents and accidents, and CPR and First Aid training. Mr. Chairman, in 2019/20 we focused on internal training including Human R esources Quick Guide; orientation for new employees; and Lunch and Learns and informational sessions with the Employee Assistant Programme [EAP], the Bermuda Industrial Union [BIU], Bermuda Publ ic Se rvice Union [BPSU] and various health organisations for our employees. In 2020/21 the Ministry will continue to partner with the BIU, the BPSU and Employee Assistance [Programme] to coordinate workshops. The Ministry’s safety and health officer will also coordinate courses on safety and health in the workplace, emphasising hazard identification and control. In addition, ongoing emergency response training such as fire marshal and CPR and First Aid training will continue into 2020/21. Mr. Chairman, it is a fact that our workforce is ageing; therefore, our Ministry will continue to focus on succession planning to ensure we have sufficient employees trained and prepared to fill core and diff icult-to-fill critical positions in the future. The Ministry of Public Works also has in place a trainee programme in which four trainees are currently enrolled. This pr ogramme focuses on training Bermudians for professional positions that are difficult to fill. Ricardo Graham -Ward, a former bursary st udent, is in tra ining as a civil engineer and joined us as a graduate member of the Institute of Civil Engineers and the Institute of Structural Engineers in the UK. He is currently assigned to the Structures Section and completed his overseas secondment programme with Ramboll, UK, an engineering company located in the UK which has been contracted by the Ministry for the design and engineering work for the new Swing and Longbird Bridges. Jamar Dill is in training as an electrical eng ineer and joined us as a graduate member of the Inst itute of Civil Engineers and the Institute of Structural Engineers in the UK. He is currently assigned to the Electrical Section and completed an overseas s econdment programme with Aecon in Canada in 2019.
Bermuda House of Assembly Zeeko Johnstone is in training as a mechanical engineer and joined us as a graduate member of the Institute [of Civil Engineers and the Institute of Structural Engineers in the UK]. He is currently assigned to the Electrical Section and also completed an overseas secondment programme with Aecon in Canada in 2019. Both of these individuals are a considerable way down the road to acquiring their professional designations, and those secondments will aid in that process. Andesha Busby is in training as a valuer and joined us as a graduate member of the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors. She graduated last year with a Bachelor’s Degree in Real Estate and is assigned to the Land Valuation Department. She is currently on a two-year secondment programme in the Southampton UK Valuation Office Agency. Mr. Chairman, the Ministry currently has three apprentices: Justin Simons, an apprentice mechanic currently working in the heavy shop, repairing and maintaining gas and diesel engine construction equipment and machinery. He is a graduate of Universal Technical Institute. Malik Lynch is currently employed in the light shop, where they repair and maintain all government cars and vans. He is a graduate of the Bermuda College’s mechanical pr ogramme. And Derrica Saunders is currently employed in the light shop as well, where they repair and mai ntain all government cars and vans. She is in her sec-ond year of Bermuda College’s Mechanical Pr ogramme. Mr. Chairman, in addition, the Ministry also plays a part in the government -wide bursary scheme, and we currentl y have two bursary students, one in the Structural Engineering Section, Tabia Butterfield, who is presently studying for a Master’s Degree in Civil Engineering at Cordiff University; and the other in the Public Lands and Buildings section, Kobe Ric hardson, who is presently studying for a Bachelor’s Degree in Building Construction Management at Purdue University. The Ministry is in need of bursary st udents in the areas of estates and buildings, surveying and quantity surveyor for the 2020/21 year. Mr. Chair man, the human resource team continued its successful partnership with C.A.R.E. Lear ning Centre which prepares a number of the Public Works staff for the General Education Diploma (GED). To date, 15 Ministry workers have gained their GEDs, and three employ ees in 2019/20 are pursuing the qualification. Mr. Chairman, in 2019/20 the Career Ou treach Programme was set up to introduce students to difficult -to-fill positions such as surveying, technical and engineering careers. The Ministry participated in CedarB ridge’s Think about it Thursdays, Berkeley’s Future Fridays and Clearwater Middle School’s Voc ational Career Fair, as well as Drive Around Career Fairs for CedarBridge Academy and Impact Mentoring Academy, to introduce those students to technical posts in our plants at Tynes Bay Waste to Energy F acility, the Quarry Mechanical Section and the Mater ials Recovery Facility. Mr. Chairman, the current account budget for the Human Resources Section 3613 is $502,000 for the fiscal year 2020/21, a decrease of $87,000. Mr. Chairman, the Ministry of Public Works recognises that opportunities within the trades are typically promoted and introduced to summer students during summer and seasonal employment. The role of the Summer Student Programme is to provide assi stance in various departments throughout the Ministry of Public Works with a view to offering the student population exposure to work -related tasks in their specific field of study or interest. Under the direction of the section and department heads and in accordance with department policies and procedures, summer students perform a variety of functions. The success of this programme is immeasurable. Students find their passion and thus become focused, self - motivated and confident young people who blaze their own course. As this Ministry covers both the trades and the professions, it is vital to our ability to attract qualified, competent Bermudians as part of any successful succession programme. The closing date for university students this year to apply for these posts was last Friday, and we received a total of 79 applications through the Berm uda Jobs Board. These are university students. We run a separate programme for high school students who may have an interest in the professions or trades in the Ministry of Public Works. Mr. Chairman, a budget of $153,000 has been approved for these posts. And since none of my technical officers are here, I am probably going to hire all of them, and they will have to find money elsewhere for them.
[Laughter]
Lt. Col. Ho n. David A. BurchNo, they should have been listening. And they know that every student that I ask, I hire them. And then they have to figure out how we are going to pay them. It is real simple. [Inaudible interjection]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI doubt it. One of the people who should be coming begged me last year to quit—to stop hiring, I mean. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Lt. Col. Ho n. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the objective of the Architect Design Programme 3614 is to 3412 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly deliver architectural design support for Government’s capital development projects in a professional, fiscally prudent and timely manner. Further, it provides opportunities for Bermudian graduates in architecture and …
Mr. Chairman, the objective of the Architect Design Programme 3614 is to 3412 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly deliver architectural design support for Government’s capital development projects in a professional, fiscally prudent and timely manner. Further, it provides opportunities for Bermudian graduates in architecture and related disciplines to obtain the necessary experience and training to acquire professional designations in their chosen field. The total budget for the Architectural Design 3614 for 2020/21 fiscal year is $174,000, which represents an increase of $115,000 which i ncludes capital project recharges. I must say as an aside, though, Mr. Chairman, that the Chief Architect retired halfway through last year. And so we are going through a bit of a reassessment about whether the structure of that pr ogramme is the best way to do it. And at present, the two trainee architects that we have on staff have been working in the Public Lands and Buildings Section and working out quite well. And so we may in fact not go back to the system that we had before.
Full-Time Equivalents (FTEs)
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the budgeted number of employees for the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters is 51. This can be seen on page B -222. The headcount has reduced b y one for 2020/21. But we should not cheer, because the account of the Permanent Secretary now falls under the Cabinet …
Mr. Chairman, the budgeted number of employees for the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters is 51. This can be seen on page B -222. The headcount has reduced b y one for 2020/21. But we should not cheer, because the account of the Permanent Secretary now falls under the Cabinet Office. And I believe that is true of all Permanent Secretaries.
Performance Measures
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Public Works Headquarters will aim to conduct four safety and health assessments with corrective actions in the year, conduct 20 safety and health trainings for Ministry employees, improve the procurement cycle time from requisition to creation of purchase orders in two days 95 per cent of the …
Mr. Chairman, the Public Works Headquarters will aim to conduct four safety and health assessments with corrective actions in the year, conduct 20 safety and health trainings for Ministry employees, improve the procurement cycle time from requisition to creation of purchase orders in two days 95 per cent of the time, produce detailed reports on all operational and capital actual -versus - budgeted expenditures each month by the 10 th day of the following month 100 per cent of the time, and i mprove on the finalisation of capital project files. The department’s Architect and Design Section also continues to aim to improve on the efficiencies realised, by using an in- house team compared to the private sector.
Capital Development
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, with regard to the major capital projects being managed by the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters, the overall budget capital expenditure plan for the Public Works Headquarters is $10,067,000, details of which can be found on page C -6 of the Capital Accounts Est imates. And the capital …
Mr. Chairman, with regard to the major capital projects being managed by the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters, the overall budget capital expenditure plan for the Public Works Headquarters is $10,067,000, details of which can be found on page C -6 of the Capital Accounts Est imates. And the capital developments include • cost centre 75050—Minor Works, nil. (But one should not get alarmed. I think it is a question of being covered in the next cost centre) ; • cost centre 75053—Miscellaneous Small Pr ojects, $200,000; • cost centre 7505 4—WEDCO Capital Grant, $1,973,000; • cost centre 75099—Office Reloc ations/Alterations, $1,925,000; • cost centre 75306—Golf Courses Improv ement, $1,150,000; and • cost centre 75334— WEDCO South Basin Land Reclam ation, $4,819,000. Mr. Chairman, the Ministry of P ublic Works Headquarters will provide a capital grant of $7,300,000 to the Bermuda Housing Corporation for their operations, along with an additional $1 million of which is to be allocated specifically to the North Street Homeless Shelter. This can be found on page C -6 of the Capital Accounts Estimates. The reason for put-ting this money in the Housing Corporation is that we have been in a public/private partnership with some community -minded business folk over the last year in doing renovations at the Housi ng Corporation. And anybody who has served in government will know that you are a lot easier able to manage getting money to suppliers out of quangos than you are out of that big monstrosity called the Government of Bermuda. And so we are going to leave it there.
Capital Acquisitions
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the overall 2019/2020 Capital Acquisitions Plan for the Public Works Headquarters is $3,424,000, under Schedule C of the Capital Accounts Estimates, and the capital acquisitions inc lude cost centre 76495 — Vehicles and Equipment of $2,745,000 towards r eplacement of aged GP vehicles as well as equipment; and …
Mr. Chairman, the overall 2019/2020 Capital Acquisitions Plan for the Public Works Headquarters is $3,424,000, under Schedule C of the Capital Accounts Estimates, and the capital acquisitions inc lude cost centre 76495 — Vehicles and Equipment of $2,745,000 towards r eplacement of aged GP vehicles as well as equipment; and cost centre 76868—Communications Equipment of $679,000 towards the Prospect Tower replacement, Fort George Building enclosure and anti -climb barriers with gates. Mr. Chairman, this concludes my presentation for the Ministry of Public Works Headquarters, Head 36. [Pause]
The ChairmanChairmanYou may proceed when ready, Mini ster. HEAD 49 —LAND VALUATION DEPARTMENT
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, I would now like to turn to Head 49, Land Valuation Depar tment, probably the smallest department in all of government, the mandate of which is to proactively mai ntain an accurate and fair Valuation List for land tax Bermuda House of Assembly purposes in accordance with the …
Mr. Chairman, I would now like to turn to Head 49, Land Valuation Depar tment, probably the smallest department in all of government, the mandate of which is to proactively mai ntain an accurate and fair Valuation List for land tax
Bermuda House of Assembly purposes in accordance with the Land Valuation and Tax Act 1967. This includes the five- yearly revaluation of all properties on the Island. Additionally, the d epartment provides accurate and timely valuation a dvice to other government departments upon request. The department ’s work ethic, principles and expertise are aptly summarised in their maxim, We value Bermuda . Thus, the Land Valuation Department strives to be a model of appraisal and assessment administr ation with a reputation for delivering impartial, accurate and understandable assessments that exceed statut ory requirements, guidelines and international best practices.
Programme 4901— Valuation
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Land Valuation Department has the single Valuation Programme 4901 with the accompanying business unit of 59080, as shown on page B -225. The single Valuation Programme comprises three primary areas: • maintenance of the Valuation List ; • appraisal service ; and • revaluation. Mr. Chairman, as …
Mr. Chairman, the Land Valuation Department has the single Valuation Programme 4901 with the accompanying business unit of 59080, as shown on page B -225. The single Valuation Programme comprises three primary areas: • maintenance of the Valuation List ; • appraisal service ; and • revaluation. Mr. Chairman, as seen on page B -226, with a total of 10 full -time positions budgeted for in fiscal year 2020/21, the Land Valuation Department is one of the smallest departments in all of government. The number of full -time positions has not changed when compared to the preceding year. Current Account Expenditure 2 020/21
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe current account expenditure estimates for Head 49 is a total of $1,034,000 that has been allocated to the Land Valu ation Department for fiscal year 2020/21. This alloc ation represents a marginal increase, very marginal, of $7,000 when compared to the original estimates of 2019/20. Mr. Chairman, the department …
The current account expenditure estimates for Head 49 is a total of $1,034,000 that has been allocated to the Land Valu ation Department for fiscal year 2020/21. This alloc ation represents a marginal increase, very marginal, of $7,000 when compared to the original estimates of 2019/20. Mr. Chairman, the department continues to be financially prudent and resourceful in the provision of their legislative mandates and services. The increases seen in the various object codes are solely on account of costs associated with the two trainee valuer pos itions and the department’s IT database. Mr. Chairman, valuation for taxation purposes is a complex and specialised field requiring a specific range of skills and expertise. Consequently, the department has invested heavily in attracting astute young Bermudians for professional positions within the department which are difficult to fill and as part of Government’s commitment to succession planning. The department currently boasts t wo such young Bermudians who have risen to this challenge. One I mentioned earlier, the trainee valuer, Ms. Andesha Busby, who recently completed her Bachelor’s Degree in Real Estate at the University of Reading in the summer of 2019; and bursary student Ms. Jodi Ming, who will soon be completing her Mas-ter’s Degree in Real Estate this year with the Univers ity College of Estate Management. Thus, Mr. Chai rman, the increases in the department’s budget are for salaries, $49,000, as both trainee valuer positions are budgeted for the entire 2020/21 fiscal year. Training, $10,000 for overseas training expenses incurred by the trainee valuer; Travel, $3,000 to cover expenses for visiting the trainee valuer whilst overseas; and Repair and Maintenance, $6,000 for additional software maintenance for the department’s MAGI database. It should be noted that the aforementioned increases have been drastically offset by significant reductions in other areas in the department’s budget. Professional Services is seeing a $35,000, or 53 per cent, reduction—reduced costs for the data inputters for the 2020 Revaluation project. And Materials and Supplies is seeing a reduction of $25,000, or 61 per cent—reduced printing costs associated with the 2020 Revaluation project, when com pared to the 2019/20 original estimates. These reductions relate to the oneoff expenses in connection with the 2020 Revaluation project. Consequently, the department is seeing a mere $7,000, or 1 per cent, increase in its overall expenditure budget for the fiscal year 2020/21. Mr. Chairman, the department is committed to our young Bermudians who aspire to attain their pr ofessional designations as chartered surveyors and will continue to provide development, training and s econdment opportunities for them. I will speak more to this when highlighting the Land Valuation Depar tment’s successes for 2019/20.
Revenue 2020/21
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, rev enue for the 2020/21 fiscal year can be found on page B-226 and remains at $6,000. This is revenue in r espect of fees which are paid by an objector to have their objection heard before the Land Valuation A ppeal Tribunal in instances where the objection …
Mr. Chairman, rev enue for the 2020/21 fiscal year can be found on page B-226 and remains at $6,000. This is revenue in r espect of fees which are paid by an objector to have their objection heard before the Land Valuation A ppeal Tribunal in instances where the objection was not resolved during negotiations with the department. Whilst it is unknown the number of objections the department might receive during fiscal year 2020/21 and how many, if any, will go before the tribunal for a hearing, the estimated revenue is based on a total of 10 tribunal hearings.
Capital Acquisitions 2020/21
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Bur chMr. Chairman, the department does not have any funds allocated for capital acquisitions for fiscal year 2020/21. Highlights and Achievements 2019/20
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the department’s bursary student, Andesha Busby, succes s3414 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly fully completed her three- year Bachelor of Science Real Estate Degree programme at the University of Reading, England, in June 2019. Ms. Busby then commenced full -time employment with the …
Mr. Chairman, the department’s bursary student, Andesha Busby, succes s3414 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly fully completed her three- year Bachelor of Science Real Estate Degree programme at the University of Reading, England, in June 2019. Ms. Busby then commenced full -time employment with the department in August 2019 as the trainee valuer and is on a fiveyear training contract and development plan. She subsequently commenced a two- year secondment opportunity with the Valuation Office Agency [VOA] in Southampton, England, in September 2019, where she is part of the VOA’s graduate scheme. This scheme is specifi cally designed to provide university graduate students with structured work experience in preparation for the Assessment of Professional Competence as part of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors [RICS] requirements for membership. Mr. Chairman, this is a tremendous opportun ity for Ms. Busby to gain valuable experience in an extensive range of statutory valuation work and a solid foundation for her future surveying profession. I am pleased to report that Ms. Busby has settled in well at the VOA. S he has completed the induction training both locally and at other offices, and is now undertaking inspections and valuations of various property types, including attending hearings at the valuation tribunal. Mr. Chairman, the appointment of Ms. Busby as the trainee valuer is in keeping with this Gover nment’s commitment to encourage Bermudians to pursue difficult -to-fill positions within the civil service, which are historically held by work -permit holders. As part of the department’s long- term strategy and succession planning, Ms. Busby will assume the role of valuer within the Land Valuation Department upon gaining the requisite professional qualifications and post-qualification work experience.
System Integration with Land Title Registry Office
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Land Title Registry Office is responsible for providing the Land Valuation Department copies of all sales transactions on the Island. This sales information forms the basis of the department’s comparable sales database and is critical to the appraisal advice provi ded to other government departments. Historically, batches …
Mr. Chairman, the Land Title Registry Office is responsible for providing the Land Valuation Department copies of all sales transactions on the Island. This sales information forms the basis of the department’s comparable sales database and is critical to the appraisal advice provi ded to other government departments. Historically, batches of sales transactions were received from Land Title Registry every few months in the form of paper hard copies of the notice of transfer documents. As of June 2019, both department’s IT systems were integrated to enable the electronic submission of sales transactions data on a daily basis. Mr. Chairman, the benefits of the system int egration are numerous and are in keeping with the Land Valuation Department’s commitment to be a paperless office and leveraging technology, which is in line with the Government’s commitment to achieve 100 per cent paperless processing by 2023. The int egration of both department’s systems has streamlined processes and proc edures by facilitating more eff i-cient and modern ways of working, improved customer service and satisfaction, and enhanced data secur ity by removing the risk of paper files going missing.
Performance Measures 2019/20
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI will now turn my a ttention to the performance measures for the depar tment for the current fiscal year. Mr. Chairman, the department has again had an exceedingly demanding year, and as one of the smallest in government, the work of the land valuation team should never be mi …
I will now turn my a ttention to the performance measures for the depar tment for the current fiscal year. Mr. Chairman, the department has again had an exceedingly demanding year, and as one of the smallest in government, the work of the land valuation team should never be mi nimised or diminished, as this team is indirectly r esponsible for some $95 million in government revenue from land tax, stamp duties and immigration property licence fees. The performance measures for the department can be found on page B -227, and I would like to speak to some of these notable achievements.
Maintenance of the Valuation List
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe legislated function of maintaining the Valuation List utilises the greater part of the department’s resources. This work entails inspecting, reassessing and making a corresponding alteration to the Valuation List on any residential, commercial or tourist property that is built, altered or demolished. At year -end 2019 there were a …
The legislated function of maintaining the Valuation List utilises the greater part of the department’s resources. This work entails inspecting, reassessing and making a corresponding alteration to the Valuation List on any residential, commercial or tourist property that is built, altered or demolished. At year -end 2019 there were a total 36,290 units in the Valuation List with a combined assessed annual rental value of approximately $1.3 bi llion. Mr. Chairman, the department makes every effort to amend the Valuation List for property alter ations within 20 working days of case creation, and a realistic turnaround target of 65 per cent was set. I am pleased to report that the department exceeded this target and completed 72 per cent of the maintenance of the list cases within the 20- working- day turnaround target. The department completed a total of 650 maintenance of the list cas es by year end, resulting in 724 proposals to amend the Valuation List in respect of property alterations. Each proposal is an opportun ity for a taxpayer to object to the amendment to the Valuation List. During 2019, the department received only two formal objections, which were both settled without the need to go before the Land Valuation A ppeal Tribunal. Mr. Chairman, these outputs are a testament to the work of the department and the accuracy and veracity of the Valuation List, which underpins $85,400, 000, or 7.6 per cent, of government’s projec ted revenue for fiscal year 2019/20.
Appraisal Services
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, as aforementioned, the Land Valuation Department also provides accurate and timely valuation advice to other government departments upon request. This appraisal Bermuda House of Assembly service will carry on in fiscal year 2020/21 and will continue to include (1) the provision of valuations to the Tax Commissioner and …
Mr. Chairman, as aforementioned, the Land Valuation Department also provides accurate and timely valuation advice to other government departments upon request. This appraisal
Bermuda House of Assembly service will carry on in fiscal year 2020/21 and will continue to include (1) the provision of valuations to the Tax Commissioner and Registrar of the Supreme Court for voluntary conveyances of property an d probate purposes, respectively, to ensure that the correct amount of stamp duty is levied on each document; (2) valuation advice to the Immigration Department in relation to sales of properties to restricted persons. The department reviews the purchase price on which the Government licence fee is calculated to determine if the price is an arm’s -length transaction and thus a fair reflection of the open market value of the property; and (3) appraisal advice to other government depar tments when requested, su ch as the Insolvency Unit of the Registrar of Companies or the Estates Sections of Public Lands and Buildings for the disposal or acquis ition of government properties. Mr. Chairman, the department provided 391 open market valuations to other government depar tments and, impressively, met each of their turnaround targets, attaining a 100 per cent achievement rate. This included completing 298 stamp duty cases for the Tax Commissioner, all within 20 working days of receipt; 26 probate cases for the Registrar of the S upreme Court, all within 10 working days of receipt; 63 land acquisition cases for the Immigration Depar tment, all within five working days of receipt; and four requests for open market valuations for the Estates Section and Insolvency Units combined, all within 10 working days of receipt. Mr. Chairman, the outputs and achievements of the department’s performance measures for both maintenance of the list work and appraisal services are impressive when one reflects on the relatively small size of the office and its limited resources. Furthermore, the successful transition of the bursary st udent to the trainee valuer position and continuous technological advances in creating efficiencies speak volumes to the dedication and commitment of the land valua tion team, and they should be commended for these accomplishments.
Initiatives for the Forthcoming Year 2020/21
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the very reason for the department’s formation in 1967 and continued existence is that of maintaining an up- todate and accurate Valuation List as properties are altered on a daily basis as a result of mergers, splits, demolitions and new builds. In addition to this i mportant function, …
Mr. Chairman, the very reason for the department’s formation in 1967 and continued existence is that of maintaining an up- todate and accurate Valuation List as properties are altered on a daily basis as a result of mergers, splits, demolitions and new builds. In addition to this i mportant function, the Land Valuation and Tax Act 1967 also mandates a revaluation of all properties on the Island for land tax purposes every five years, as the Valuation List forms the basis for land taxation. Mr. Chairman, the Island- wide revaluation is a significant project for the department and involves the revaluation of over 36,000 valuation units at the same time to maintain parity in the Valuation List. Property values change over time, and these changes are not uniform across the market. Since the last Island- wide revaluation in 2015, the Island continues to exper ience declines i n property values in various sectors. As some property types and areas have fallen in value more than others, the Island- wide revaluation re- levels the playing field by reflecting these relative changes in value. This mass appraisal of properties not only e nsures that all properties are valued on the same basis and on the same valuation date, but ensures equity and fairness between the assessments in the Valuation List and, consequently, Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda’s land tax liability. Mr. Chairman, the revaluat ion project follows three basic phases: 1. rental data collection; 2. analysis of the data; and 3. valuation model building and mass appraisal. Survey forms were sent to all taxpayers in November 2019 and final notices issued in January 2020. Once the rental data collected from the surveys are analysed, the newly compiled 2020 Draft Valua-tion List will be published on the 31 st of December 2020. ARVs [annual rental values] contained therein will be based on levels of rental value around July 2019. All taxpayers will then have six months from the date of publication in which to lodge an objection to their new ARV should they chose to exercise this right. Mr. Chairman, I must point out that the 2020 revaluation project will be the last paper -based revaluation exercise for the department. It is our commi tment that the next Island- wide revaluation in 2025 will include the online submission of information.
Closing Remarks
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, as I conclude my presentation of the Estimates of E xpenditure and Revenues for the Department of Land Valuation, Head 49, I would like to reference the three Ps of any successful organisation— people, processes and performance. The department is one of the smal lest in government with …
Mr. Chairman, as I conclude my presentation of the Estimates of E xpenditure and Revenues for the Department of Land Valuation, Head 49, I would like to reference the three Ps of any successful organisation— people, processes and performance. The department is one of the smal lest in government with a current staffing complement of only nine full -time equivalents. Correspondingly, the department also continues to have one of the smallest expenditure budgets for both the current and the u pcoming fiscal year. Despite these limited resources (some would say adequate ), the Land Val uation team, its people , continue to provide first -class service in the delivery of their statutory mandate of maintaining the Valuation List and the provision of an appraisal service to other government departments. Mr. Chairman, the department’s process es and procedures are continuously reviewed with the goal of streamlining and improving workflows. This is evident with the successful system integration of databases with the Land Title Registry Office and the electronic transmission of information betwee n the two departments. Additionally, over the last year the de3416 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly partment has met or exceeded all of their performance measures in respect of maintenance of the list and appraisal work, all of which have resulted in increased revenue for government. Mr. Chai rman, for the upcoming 2020/21 fiscal year, the department’s appraisal advice to other gov-ernment departments is expected to generate an estimated $9 million in stamp duties and immigration licence fees. Additionally, the assessed annual rental values in t he Valuation List underpin land tax revenue of $85,400,000, or 7.6 per cent of Government’s est imated revenue for 2020/21. One can certainly appr eciate the comparatively low cost of the Land Valuation Department when compared to the significant revenue generated by the maintenance of the Valuation List and appraisal services it provides. Mr. Chairman, might I be so bold as to suggest that the wider Government might look at using this department and the Land Title Registration Office as a template for reduc ing costs and improving greater efficiency. Mr. Chairman, this concludes my presentation on the Department of Land Valuation, Head 49.
HEAD 53 —BERMUDA HOUSING CORPORATION
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, I would now like to turn to Head 53, t he Bermuda Housing Corporation [BHC or the Corporation]. Mr. Chairman, the mission statement of the BHC is To provide ac-cessibility to adequate, affordable housing and pr omote independent living to enhance the quality of life in Bermuda. Mr. …
Mr. Chairman, I would now like to turn to Head 53, t he Bermuda Housing Corporation [BHC or the Corporation]. Mr. Chairman, the mission statement of the BHC is To provide ac-cessibility to adequate, affordable housing and pr omote independent living to enhance the quality of life in Bermuda. Mr. Chairman, the Housing Corporation’s grant allocation of $6,050,000 represents no change from the previous year. The allocated grant will be used to subsidise the annual cost of repairs, normal maintenance of properties, support services for fam ilies and individuals, and rental assistance via the Rent Geared to Income Programme to clients of the Corporation and for the continuation of the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Programme. In addition to the operating assistance grant, the BHC is budgeted to receive a capital grant of $4,800, 000, which is the same as last year as well. The capital grant will be used to pay for the interest and principal amounts due on the Corporation’s out-standing bank loan of $35,850,000. Mr. Chairman, the primary functions of the Housing Corporation are to provide housing in Ber-muda, to promote home ownership, to undertake and carry out housing schemes and to undertake such other functions in connection with housing as the Mi nister responsible for housing may require. The Corporation continues to provide met hods for Bermudians to gain entry into the housing market, whether it is by way of becoming first -time homeowners or renting affordable units that are avai lable. The Corporation continues to strive to provide adequate, achievable and affordable housing which will benefit Bermudians. The Corporation continues a public/private partnership with Clarien Bank to assist hard- working Bermudians to obtain their first home.
The HomeStart Programme
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchTo date, that pr ogramme has assisted 14 Bermudian families in their quest to become first -time homeowners. The initiative has been very successful in providing properties available for sale at affordable prices. The sale prices of these properties have been significantly reduced in return f or sweat equity to …
To date, that pr ogramme has assisted 14 Bermudian families in their quest to become first -time homeowners. The initiative has been very successful in providing properties available for sale at affordable prices. The sale prices of these properties have been significantly reduced in return f or sweat equity to bring the properties back to a healthy, habitable state. Many of the properties on offer were previously vacant and derelict —eliminating unhealthy eyesores from the Bermudian landscape. Mr. Chairman, I have recently had approac hes from four separate entities directly about bringing Bermudian derelict place/properties back online and rehabilitating them. I am probably breaking all the rules. But I have entertained every single one of them and encouraged them to go away and come with a proposal about how they might rehabilitate those properties. And then we will put it through the filter of Public Lands and Buildings and come up with an agreement that will bring those properties back online. The Bermuda Housing Corporation admini sters a number of programmes in pursuit of its mission, including managing and leasing a large inventory of properties comprising houses and apartments. Some of these properties are owned by the Corporation, and others are leased from private sector owners. The BHC manages 500 government and pr ivate sector residential units Island- wide and eight transitional homes comprising 180 rooms.
The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Programme
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchAnd the BHC also manages and controls the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck pr ogramme, acronym for Helping the Unemployed Sustain Themselves with Limited Employment, which has been in successful operation since 2007. This year marks the 13 th anniversary of the programme. Mr. Chairman, the Corporation brought the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Prog ramme …
And the BHC also manages and controls the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck pr ogramme, acronym for Helping the Unemployed Sustain Themselves with Limited Employment, which has been in successful operation since 2007. This year marks the 13 th anniversary of the programme. Mr. Chairman, the Corporation brought the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Prog ramme to birth by contracting eight young men and women of Middletown Lower to paint over graffiti on walls of BHC -owned property in the Middletown area. It was very encouraging to see the young men and women take pride in their work, and in one case it was extremely satisfying to hear one of them chastise his friend who was sitting on a wall newly painted by him and chiding him for marking up the wall with his sneakers. He had taken ownership of his work. Since then, the Corporation, through the H.U.S.T.L. E. Truck Programme, has helped over 1,000 unemployed Bermudians in need with short -
Bermuda House of Assembly term temporary employment and assisted them with finding full -time jobs, the most recent of which is the (I forget the title) resident manager at Bermudiana Beach. He came t o us off the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck. In addition, the programme has provided much- valued assistance to our seniors, community groups, churc hes, schools and neighbourhoods. The Corporation works with local banks to help assist Bermudian cl ients to retain their homes by advising on best steps to manage mortgage payments when they are under threat due to the continuing challenges of our ec onomic times. The Corporation continues to find ways to reduce expenses and generate positive cash flows. Through efficient us e of current staffing levels, redi stribution of duties, retraining and in- house seminars, the Corporation has been able to use available staff members to ensure daily operations are performed to expectations and in some cases exceeding expected levels. Fur ther, additional efficiencies and cost sa vings are underway as the Corporation is working t owards the integration of the administration of the Bermuda Land Development Company [BLDC] oper ations, with the operations of the Bermuda Housing Corporation. Mr. Chairman, the BHC is transforming the former Grand Atlantic condos into Bermuda’s newest tourism venture, the Bermudiana Beach Resort Condo Hotel. The Corporation has hired three young Berm udians to take over the management of the property. They are Mr. Al len R. Walker, who has been appointed General Manager of the development; Deborah Leverock as Operations Director; and Donovan Si mmons as Resort Manager. We are honoured that the three Bermudians have expressed confidence in the success of the Bermudiana B each Resort and our Bermudian tourism product and wish to be a part of that success. Mr. Chairman, [BHC] has successfully signed a licence agreement with the world- famous Hilton (Tapestry Brand) Hotels. [Hilton] will be providing training, reservations services, consultation and marketing to assist in the daily operations of the Berm udiana Beach Resort. Hilton has a sterling reputation globally and will provide outstanding support in achie ving the professional standards expected from this new hotel. Mr. C hairman, the Bermuda Housing Corpor ation continues to have empathy with many of its cl ients who have suffered a decline in their income through unemployment or underemployment. The Corporation has constant meetings with clients to help them navigate through these difficult social, economic and financial times. It is worth noting, Mr. Chairman, that the Corporation does not evict clients for an inability to pay rent . I repeat that: It is worth noting that the Corporation does not evict clients for an inabili ty to pay rent . If anybody looked at their financials and saw the outstanding debt that they are carrying, they will know that that is true. But rather, when the difficult decisions are made to evict, it is because of clients’ irresponsible or unhealthy behaviour after multiple meetings, cautions and intervention programmes. And as an aside, Mr. Chairman, we are likely to see three of those evictions in the next few days in the courts. And all I would say is just that anybody who has any sympathy, to ask, How much has their arrears grown and how long have the cases been in existence?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, if I may, there was a request from a couple of Members that we adjourn early so that Members could feel free to go to the International Women’s Day event. It is only 10 minutes left. I mean, my position is that we should just go right to lunch. …
Minister, if I may, there was a request from a couple of Members that we adjourn early so that Members could feel free to go to the International Women’s Day event. It is only 10 minutes left. I mean, my position is that we should just go right to lunch. I suspect we are going to be amply represented at that event, and persons within the next 10 minutes can join the members who are there. Would you . . . Are you . . .
The ChairmanChairmanYes. So we only have 10 minutes left.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchLet them walk into Government. Some of us have had enough of international everything.
The ChairmanChairmanWell, I . . . yes. Thank you, Minister. You may proceed, Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI will feel a little better when they have an International Men’s Day som ewhere around the world. I will go and attend it. Rent Geared to Income
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe Rent Geared to Income [RGI] initiative gives real relief to clients by assisting them with requested payment of only 25 per cent of their combined household income to be paid to the Corporation as rent regardless of employment st atus of family members. Part of this programme i ncludes …
The Rent Geared to Income [RGI] initiative gives real relief to clients by assisting them with requested payment of only 25 per cent of their combined household income to be paid to the Corporation as rent regardless of employment st atus of family members. Part of this programme i ncludes finally a mandatory 10 per cent savings portion of the monthly household income to guide clients into positive saving habits for long- term goals. I know that some families have graduated off of this pr ogramme. I had asked the question before I came, How many? I want to know. I think everybody would like to know. And I should have that answer when we come to answering questions.
Transitional Housing
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe BHC operates eight rooming houses, or transitional houses, that contain approximately 180 beds. The various houses are 3418 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly located throughout the Island and provide a safe habitat for BHC clients. The rooming houses cater to households that need immediate, …
The BHC operates eight rooming houses, or transitional houses, that contain approximately 180 beds. The various houses are 3418 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly located throughout the Island and provide a safe habitat for BHC clients. The rooming houses cater to households that need immediate, safe or emergency acco mmodation. The Support Services Department continues to hold regular rooming house meetings to listen to concerns and address complaints from the residents of those facilities. The satellite offices at the largest rooming houses at Southside are charged wi th regular meetings with clients who have fallen on hard times. The support given includes economic, social and psychological guidance to occupants to assist them in graduating out of the facility into more trad itional Bermuda living. Since its inception i n 2007, a total of 380 families have transferred out of the room-ing house facilities. Gulfstream is a multi -unit rooming house comprising 78 rooms and currently houses 54 families from various backgrounds. Some families have adjoi ning rooms to ensure adequate privacy for parents and children. The Gulfstream residents are appreciative of the opportunity, and regular house meetings are held to listen to and allay concerns before they become problematic to society. Unfortunately, as in many things in this country, some clients have not been compliant with meeting requests to discuss issues and only react when given ultimatums of penalties for their errant behaviours. I might add, Mr. Chairman, that the Corpor ation is also exploring best practice international ly, because there is a growing belief that the size of this facility is probably not conducive to the type of housing that we want to provide in Bermuda. And so we may be transitioning from this into another model. Mr. Chairman, Building 632, known as Langley House, is a 61- bed rooming house facility, located at Southside, St. David’s. The rooming house is used specifically to house men in need of affordable, safe accommodation. There are currently 50 men residing in that facility. The Corporation has qua lified social workers working out of the satellite offices, including a former police officer to monitor and correct antisocial beha viours. The Corporation is in the process of transforming the Harmony Club property into studio and one-bedroom units which will be used primarily to house seniors on the ground floor and families on the second floor who are mobile and can live independently. Harmony Club property is also used as the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck offices, and the Gate House buil ding is used to provide em ergency accommodation for persons in immediate distress or in need of immediate housing.
BHC Staff
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe BHC has recently initiated an intern programme for three young Berm udians who are working with the Corporation for one year. This intern programme is used to ensure that our young people have guidance and counselling as they make firm decisions on their career choices. They are working in …
The BHC has recently initiated an intern programme for three young Berm udians who are working with the Corporation for one year. This intern programme is used to ensure that our young people have guidance and counselling as they make firm decisions on their career choices. They are working in different departments of the Corporation including Finance, Property Management, Proper ty Operations, Compliance and the Support Services Department. The Bermuda Housing Corporation’s head office is located at the Seven Arches Building [East Entrance], 44 Church Street in the City of Hamilton and presently consists of 41 personnel. Of that total, four H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck members operate from office space at the Harmony Club, and three staff members under the Support Services Department operate off - site at a satellite office in the Southside complex. The current structure of BHC consists of s even departments: 1. Project Management, with two staff; 2. Property Operations, with 10; 3. Finance, Collections and Home Ownership Services, with eight; 4. Support Services, of 10; 5. Administration, of five; 6. Human Resources, with two; and 7. H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck, with four .
Project Management
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Pr ojects Department, consisting of two employees, as-sists with advice regarding major repair work necessary on existing buildings owned by the Corporation, to ensure longevity of the C orporation’s assets. The department has recently been restructured with the project managers overseeing the multiple dwellings which come under …
Mr. Chairman, the Pr ojects Department, consisting of two employees, as-sists with advice regarding major repair work necessary on existing buildings owned by the Corporation, to ensure longevity of the C orporation’s assets. The department has recently been restructured with the project managers overseeing the multiple dwellings which come under the BHC remit to ensure that effective and cost -conscious maintenance programmes keep the units in safe and heal thy states. They also are responsible for initial drawings of projected capital projects, as well as the project management of the properties through to completion. Projects planned for the year include • conversion of Blocks B and D at Harmony Club into the one-bedroom and studio units; • restoration and conversion from five units to nine units of Chelsea apartments in St. George’s; • renovation and conversion of the former St. David’s preschool building into loft apar tments; and • renovation and conversion of the former St. George’s police barracks into a rental studio accommodation.
Property Operations
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe department is r esponsible for the maintenance of BHC’s housing stock of approximately 700 units including the rooming Bermuda House of Assembly houses Is land- wide. The department’s responsibilities include the regular maintenance of buildings under the control of BHC and providing advice and assistance to clients of BHC …
The department is r esponsible for the maintenance of BHC’s housing stock of approximately 700 units including the rooming
Bermuda House of Assembly houses Is land- wide. The department’s responsibilities include the regular maintenance of buildings under the control of BHC and providing advice and assistance to clients of BHC on housing- related matters. The department comprises three property officers, six maint enance officers and one administrative assistant. The department conducts regular maint enance checks of buildings under the management of the Corporation and is responsible for small maint enance works along with coordinating more difficult tasks with trust ed and able contractors. Last year, the Property Operations Depar tment completed approximately 2,700 maintenance requests. The requests for maintenance are wide ranging. They include everything from simple plum bing, electrical, water, sewage and roof repa irs, to landscaping, painting, flooring and major renovations.
Finance Department
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe Finance Depar tment has a total staff of nine employees, consisting of one finance manager and two assistant finance managers, one responsi ble for reporting and the other for IT, one accounts supervisor, three finance officers and one cashier. The Finance Department carefully monitors the Corporation’s spending and compliance, …
The Finance Depar tment has a total staff of nine employees, consisting of one finance manager and two assistant finance managers, one responsi ble for reporting and the other for IT, one accounts supervisor, three finance officers and one cashier. The Finance Department carefully monitors the Corporation’s spending and compliance, ensuring that policies and procedures are adhered to and that clients act responsibly in paying their bills in a timely manner. The Finance Department fields questions of a financial nature, provides mortgage advice and assists clients with understanding their financial oblig ations to the Corporation.
Support Services Department
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe Support Services Department is the department responsible for ensu ring that adequate housing is found for BHC clients. The department conducts regular inspections of BHC housing inventory to ensure clients are compliant with their rental contracts. The department consists of 10 persons, one manager, one rentals case worker, two …
The Support Services Department is the department responsible for ensu ring that adequate housing is found for BHC clients. The department conducts regular inspections of BHC housing inventory to ensure clients are compliant with their rental contracts. The department consists of 10 persons, one manager, one rentals case worker, two transitional house case workers, two junior transitional house case workers, three rental inspectors and one intake officer. There is a current waitlist for BHC ac comm odation of 108 cl ients. I personally believe that this is underreported, and I tell them so. The Support Services Department offers a myriad of services to clients which include money management, housekeeping, social and behavioural problem eradication, child care, and health and safety guidance. In addition, the department offers advice on support from other agencies that stand ready to assist clients who are in need of professional counselling. Administration
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe Administration Department consists of the general manager, exec utive assistant, one receptionist and two office assi stants. This department is responsible for the orderly daily business of the Corporation. Human Resources
Lt. Col. Ho n. David A. BurchThe Human R esources [HR] Department has a total staff of two. It ensures that staff members have the required skills to efficiently and successfully carry out their daily roles as the Corporation ensures employee welfare and provides mentoring and training services. The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Programme
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Programme continues to be of valuable assi stance to unemployed persons who actively seek work. The programme operates out of the Harmony C lub and caters to 20 temporary employees per week. The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck continues to be of valuable assi stance to Bermuda with the ability …
The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Programme continues to be of valuable assi stance to unemployed persons who actively seek work. The programme operates out of the Harmony C lub and caters to 20 temporary employees per week. The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck continues to be of valuable assi stance to Bermuda with the ability to adjust to the needs of the community as they arise. The current cost of the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck programme is approximately $1 million per year (20 people per week for up to three months total per year, taking one week off each month to seek regular employment). At this level the Corporation is able to r otate through approximately 260 different people per year. The programme is available for any unemployed Bermudian. At present, there are approximately 35 people on the waitlist daily who are advised to return the following day for an opportunity to work. The H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck Office keeps a dat abase of information on the unemployed and their skill sets for the specific purpose of making a good fit when partnering with employers. The office regularly receives requests from employers for qualified and suitable potential employees. Upon receipt of these requests, the da tabase is checked, and those persons who have the required qualifications are sent on interviews in the hopes of achieving full -time traditional employment. In addition, the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck has fundamentally replaced the bulk waste pick -up section that was closed in the Ministry of Public Works, by collecting and cleaning neighbourhoods of illegally dumped bulk waste items such as mattresses, sofas, furniture and appliances on a weekly basis. The Corporation has completed an MOU with the internationall y recognised Cisco IT training network, a networking and cybersecurity solutions company to train unemployed Bermudians in IT solutions. The initiative is the first step in providing skills to H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck members to enable them to i n3420 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly crease their opportunities for full -time employment by teaching them transferable skills in computing oper ations. The first cohort of five students completed Phase 1 of the programme two weeks ago. Mr. Chairman, the Bermuda Housing Corpor ation has a very important role t o play in Bermudian society, assisting vulnerable people including seniors, mental health patients, inmates, young people and those who have fallen on hard financial times. They continue to come up with courageous, innovative plans to help Bermuda combat t he escalating costs of living [which causes] stress in many Bermudian fam ilies. They are committed to their tasks and willingly embrace new challenges.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, we are at around 12:31 now.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI am going to end t he Housing Corporation piece right there, Mr. Chairman. And I will move that we adjourn for lunch.
The ChairmanChairmanYou have always been very efficient, I must say. Okay. So Members, it has been moved that we take lunch right now. And the House will resume at 2:00 pm. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:31 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:01 pm [Mr. Rolfe Commissiong, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF …
You have always been very efficient, I must say. Okay. So Members, it has been moved that we take lunch right now. And the House will resume at 2:00 pm. [Gavel]
Proceedings suspended at 12:31 pm
Proceedings resumed at 2:01 pm
[Mr. Rolfe Commissiong, Chairman]
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY
ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2020/21
MINISTRY OF PUBLIC WORKS
[Continuation thereof]
The ChairmanChairmanWelcome back, Members, and for the listening public we are back into the Committee of Supply of Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year [2020/21]. The Minister has . . . you have completed the first three Heads, I believe, you will be resuming now in the consideration of …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThank you, Mr. Chai rman. Before I start with Parks, let me just say that I spent the lunchtime carving some of the items out of this thing and I will have more to say about this whole process towards the end of this period. But I think that . …
Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. Before I start with Parks, let me just say that I spent the lunchtime carving some of the items out of this thing and I will have more to say about this whole process towards the end of this period. But I think that . . . anyway, I will have more to say and probably get in trouble as a result. But in any case, we will press on.
HEAD 68 —PARKS
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchSo, this is the Depar tment of Parks, Mr. Chairman, which is responsible for the administration of protected areas listed under the Bermuda National Parks Act [1986]. The current account expenditure estimate allotted to the department for 2020/21 is $9,289,128; which represents a [3.67] per cent decrease of $354,447 compared …
So, this is the Depar tment of Parks, Mr. Chairman, which is responsible for the administration of protected areas listed under the Bermuda National Parks Act [1986]. The current account expenditure estimate allotted to the department for 2020/21 is $9,289,128; which represents a [3.67] per cent decrease of $354,447 compared to the 2019/20 original estimate. Mr. Chairman, the department’s budget is divided into the various programmes including: Admi nistration and Planning; Park Ranger Service; Lif eguard Service; the Park Maintenance Section encompassing Government House, Maintenance and Deve lopment, Eastern Parks, Tree Service, Western Parks, Schools Grounds, Tulo Valley and the Botanical Gardens; Forts and Historical Sites; and the Railway Trail. The Department of Parks has 143 posts within its remit which remains unchanged from 2019/20 to 2020/21. However, it is important to note that the department operated during the 2019/20 budget year with only 118 posts most of the year. And as I indicated in this m orning’s presentation, Mr. Chairman, there is a moratorium on new hires that must make their way all the way to the Minister before we agree to hire folks. The Capital Acquisitions Estimate for the department for the year is $650,000. Four hundred thousand of that is for Park Improvements to include: the installation of a new lifeguard tower; repairs to buil dings in the Botanical Gardens; and restoration of designated parks. And $250,000 for the design of a purpose- built Administration and Maintenance facil ity for Parks at Marsh Folly. Mr. Chairman, revenues for the department are projected to remain at $[128],000. Steady demand continues for Special Permits for events such as beach weddings for tourists at Warwick Long Bay, Jobson’s Cove, Stonehole Bay, Chaplin Bay in South Shore Park, and Fort St. Catherine. Media documentation continues to support this. Also, the demand continues for organised functions such as birthday parties where Laser Tag occurs and bonfires on various beaches. Fort St. Catherine with the World Heritage designation continues to attract interested patrons for events such as weddings. The projected revenues for the various sectors are as follows: • Camping and Special Permits: $30,000; • Concession fees: $5,000; • Lifeguard service fees: $1,000; • Horticultural Produce sales: $5,000; • Fort St. Catherine Admissions: $60,000; • Fort St. Catherine Retail: $1,000;
Bermuda House of Assembly • Fort St. Catherine Facilities: $27,000. Camping and Special Permit Fees for functions at various beaches are expected to collect $26,000; Concession Fees will amount to $5,000; and $71,000 will be raised from the activities at Fort St. Catherine; Lifeguard service fees are $1,000; and Horticultural Produce from Tulo Valley of $5,000. Mr. Chairman, I would like to report on key activities in the respective sections of the Parks Depar tment for the upcoming 2020/21 budget cycle.
Administration and Planning —78050
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe Administration will have a budget of $1,178,037. It is the hub of the d epartment and encompasses the P ark Planning section which will be planning and implementing the following projects for the budget year: • Installation of a third fitness equipment station at Death Valley Park in the …
The Administration will have a budget of $1,178,037. It is the hub of the d epartment and encompasses the P ark Planning section which will be planning and implementing the following projects for the budget year: • Installation of a third fitness equipment station at Death Valley Park in the west. • The final phase of the installation of the new Lifeguard Tower at C learwater Park will be completed following the implementation of recommendations from the Department of Planning. • The Management Plans for Southlands and Botanical Gardens will be updated. • Trained staff in Geographic Information Sy stems (GIS) has commenced, collecting doc umentation and data of the Parks assets. • With the assistance of the Estates section l icences or leases will be drafted for conces-sion operations at various parks and beaches. • The improvements for the boat ramp at Stone Crusher Corner in Kin dley Field Park will continue. • The Sale Centre building and the Green House at Tulo Valley Nursery are still planned to be replaced in order to increase the produc-tion of plants for Bermuda Government properties. • New signage, park benches, and picnic tables will be placed in the parks and beaches. • The department has embarked on several i mprovement projects including Community Gardens, assisting with PTAs for their School Gardening Programmes and a new roundabout design scheme. That scheme was ev ident this r ecent Christmas Holiday season. • The Tree Planting Initiative in partnership with the National Trust has also commenced; with the aim of planting 2,020 trees in the year 2020.
Park Ranger Service—78000
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the Park Ranger Service as a small team has operated like many other sections with a shortage of staff. The budget for the 2020/21 is $469,887. This section has taken the lead with some of the public/private partnerships which are bearing positive achievements. The section has been directly …
Mr. Chairman, the Park Ranger Service as a small team has operated like many other sections with a shortage of staff. The budget for the 2020/21 is $469,887. This section has taken the lead with some of the public/private partnerships which are bearing positive achievements. The section has been directly involved with the Friends of the Bermuda Railway Trail and continues to assist with most of the landscape culling of invasive veget ation, which is now required before the installation of Phase 2 of the Bridging Scheme. Phase 2 wi ll involve bridging Flatt’s Inlet. The section continues to have a working rel ationship with the Bermuda Police Service [BPS], pr imarily the Community Action Team, which has pr ovided valuable assistance when enforcing the Berm uda National Park Regulations 1988. The recent clearing of abandoned vehicles at the Parsons Road Park is a prime example of their team work. At Southlands Park they are directly involved with culling invasive species with the Bermuda Zoological Society and PricewaterhouseCoopers [PwC] in order to start the process of restoring the park on the western boundaries. This initiative will continue. The Park Ranger Service also works closely with the Bermuda Bicycle Association and Fat Tire Massive who provide assistance in maintaining trails in designated parks. Patrols to the Island- based parks and nature reserves are becoming more consistent. The campground at Higgs and Horseshoe I sland Parks will be cleared, as will the Military Grav eyards and Lime Kilns at Ferry Point Park as per nor-mal. A joint initiative with the Ministry of Tourism and Transport will see Traffic Coordinators on duty at the Horseshoe Bay parking lot in order to organise and control the taxi and minibus fleets who are transporting passengers primarily to and from the crui se ships in Dockyard.
Lifeguard Service —78010
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe Lifeguard Service has a budget of $473,981. This year will see the installation of the new lifeguard tower at Clearwater [Beach] Park. This will ensure that lifeguard service continues at this popular location. The department anticipates that there will be 21 Seasonal and Reserve Lifeguards trained and cer-tified under …
The Lifeguard Service has a budget of $473,981. This year will see the installation of the new lifeguard tower at Clearwater [Beach] Park. This will ensure that lifeguard service continues at this popular location. The department anticipates that there will be 21 Seasonal and Reserve Lifeguards trained and cer-tified under the Royal Life Saving Society (RLSS) and will be challenged to try and meet the expanded cruise ship tourism s eason which will operate from April to November 2020. The Lifeguard Service works alongside the Park Ranger Service and will continue to provide the following services: • They will once again provide lifeguard and water safety support during the swim portion of the second ITU Bermuda International Tr iathlon 2020. 3422 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly • In conjunction with the Park Ranger Service they will also provide training and certification of 20 staff in the Department of Parks in either American Heart Association Basic Life Support or Bermuda Red Cross Community CPR, AED, and First Aid with instructors who have been certified.
Park Maintenance Section
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe combined budget will be $ 6,767,277. This section comprises the follo wing: • Government House—78015: $268,290; • Maintenance and Development —78020: $831,139; • Eastern Parks —78030: $1,007,923; • Tree Service —78035: $581,904; • Western Parks —78040: $1,394,634; • Schools Grounds —78045: $563,706; • Tulo Valley Nursery —78055: $400,018; • …
The combined budget will be $ 6,767,277. This section comprises the follo wing: • Government House—78015: $268,290; • Maintenance and Development —78020: $831,139; • Eastern Parks —78030: $1,007,923; • Tree Service —78035: $581,904; • Western Parks —78040: $1,394,634; • Schools Grounds —78045: $563,706; • Tulo Valley Nursery —78055: $400,018; • Botanical Gardens and Arboretum —78065: $1,399,664. Mr. Chairman, the combined sections provide landscape and horticultural maintenance and the necessary bedding plants for the Island’s parks, beaches, nature reserves, roundabouts, schools, and Gover nment properties. In addition to the maintenance performed by these employees, in 2020/21 they will continue to make improvements to Blue Hole; repair and replace the fencing in Spanish Point Park, Astwood Park, Chaplin Bay, Admiralty House Park, Mullet Bay Park and Shelly Bay Park; repair and upgrade bathroom facilities in the parks; install park benches and picnic tables at various parks and beaches such as John Smith’s Bay, Astwood Park, West Whale Bay, and South Shore Park (Warwick Long Bay Playground); replace gates at parks, beaches, and the Railway Trails; and they will be involved in the restoration and improvement of parks including Coney Island, Adm iralty House, Shelly Bay, Ferry Point, Kindley Field, South Shore Park, and Southlands. This will involve the major clearing of invasive species and replanting with natives and endemic species. The Skills Development Programme conti nues to develop persons with the skill sets for gardening and landscaping and have successfully garnered the support from the Garden Club and is one of this year’s recipients of the End to End fundraiser. Some of the goals of the programme are to: • research colleges that we can consider sending SDP participants and Parks’ workers to; • improve our training programme in areas like arboriculture, horticulture and landscaping; • gather information re apprenticeship pr ogrammes to share with government depar tments and the private sector. The Railway Trail —78100
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe budget for the Railway Trail is $320,000. This has remained constant for over the last 10 year s. The Railway Trail continues to be one of the most actively used parks in the system year -round for both residents and tourists. It has major events such as the World …
The budget for the Railway Trail is $320,000. This has remained constant for over the last 10 year s. The Railway Trail continues to be one of the most actively used parks in the system year -round for both residents and tourists. It has major events such as the World Triathlons and the popular End to End the first week in May. It benefits by way of the co nstant promotion by the Bermuda Tourism Authority and via social media. Going forward the department is looking to do informing public notices and adverts to inform and educate the public on things happening on the Trail. In 2019/20, staff were tasked wi th again providing the landscape maintenance of the Railway Trails and they have been able to achieve this objective within budget. The same will apply for 2020/21. Mr. Chairman, projects planned for the Rai lway Trail in 2020/21 include replacement of damaged gates, installation of park benches, repairs of da maged fences, culling of invasive plants, and restoration of uneven surfaces primarily in the western sections. The department will network with Friends of the Bermuda Railway Trail and their industry partners for the surface restoration projects and Phase 2 of Flatt’s I nlet.
Forts and Historical Sites
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe budget for 2020/21 will be $399,946, which is a decrease of $18,418. The primary management responsibility for this se ction includes Fort St. Catherine, within the World Heritage site, and other forts in the eastern par-ishes. However, jurisdiction for managing forts extends to other parks in the National Parks …
The budget for 2020/21 will be $399,946, which is a decrease of $18,418. The primary management responsibility for this se ction includes Fort St. Catherine, within the World Heritage site, and other forts in the eastern par-ishes. However, jurisdiction for managing forts extends to other parks in the National Parks System. The current five staff continue to market the Fort wit h the Bermuda Tourism Authority (BTA) and destin ation-based magazines and publications. Revenues and patrons should remain steady with slight increases correlating with the projected i ncrease in tourists for the 2020 season. Projects planned for the fiscal year include: painting of the guns at Fort St. Catherine, Alexandra Battery, Gates Fort and St. David’s Battery; and refurbishment and replacement of the signs at various forts. Mr. Chairman, with those remarks I conclude my remarks on Head 68 the Departm ent of Parks and would now like to turn to Head 81 the Department of Public Lands and Buildings.
The ChairmanChairmanYou may proceed, Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly HEAD 81 —PUBLIC LANDS AND BUILDINGS
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the r esponsibility of the Department of Public Lands and Buildings is to: To effectively manage [Government] property and provide national mapping to enable the delivery of effective public services. Mr. Chairman, on page B -236 you will note that there are four main programmes for the Depar …
Mr. Chairman, the r esponsibility of the Department of Public Lands and Buildings is to: To effectively manage [Government] property and provide national mapping to enable the delivery of effective public services. Mr. Chairman, on page B -236 you will note that there are four main programmes for the Depar tment of Public Lands and Buildings and they are as follows: • 8100 —Administration • 8101 —Buildings • 8102 —Estates • 8103 —Land Surveys Mr. Chairman, the total budget allocated to the department is $19,919,000 for fiscal year 2020/21, as compared to $19,472,000 for the previous year. This represents an increase of $447,000. This i ncrease reflects the government’s costs to effectively operate and maintain facilities for public services across all government departments. The Estates section is responsible for the management of the Government estate; the Buildings section is responsible for its maintenance and repair; and the Land Surveys Section is responsible for map-ping and cadastral surveys. The fourth programme is Administration, Training and Apprentices Programme which comprises mainly the Director of the Depar tment and the trainees and apprentices. Mr. Chairman, the budget for the programmes are as follows: • 8100 —Administration: $279,000 • 8101 —Buildings: $9,076,000 • 8102 —Estates: $10,236,000 • 8103 —Land Surveys Management: $328,000 This compares with the budget for the same programmes for fiscal year 2019/20. The increase in 8102 is due the increases in costs [and] expenses in operating and managing the government’s ageing stock of buildings. Lands Surveys has a nominal increase from 2019/20.
Administration
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, pr ogramme 8100 Administration, Training and Apprenti ces has a total budget of $278,000. This programme is split between two cost centres, namely: • 91000— Administration: $232,000 • 91001—Training and Apprenticeship: $47,000 The Administration programme objective is to provide administrative support for the Estates and Buildings sections. It …
Mr. Chairman, pr ogramme 8100 Administration, Training and Apprenti ces has a total budget of $278,000. This programme is split between two cost centres, namely: • 91000— Administration: $232,000 • 91001—Training and Apprenticeship: $47,000 The Administration programme objective is to provide administrative support for the Estates and Buildings sections. It has a budget of $279,000 to cover the head of department and support staff and is split into two cost centres. The Administration cost centre 91000 has a specific budget allocation of $232,000 for fiscal year 2020/21, as compared to $227,000. This represents an increase of $5,000, or 1 per cent. However, cost centre 91001 has a budget allocat ion of $47,000 with no increase over 2019/20 to support training and apprenticeships.
Buildings Section
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe Buildings section is split between two cost centres, namely: • 91002— Services Management: $1,066,000 • 91003— Maintenanc e: $8,010,000 Mr. Chairman, the Buildings programme, as seen on page B -236, has a mandate to effectively manage the maintenance, repair and renovation of all Government buildings. This programme has a …
The Buildings section is split between two cost centres, namely: • 91002— Services Management: $1,066,000 • 91003— Maintenanc e: $8,010,000 Mr. Chairman, the Buildings programme, as seen on page B -236, has a mandate to effectively manage the maintenance, repair and renovation of all Government buildings. This programme has a total budget of $9,076,000 when compared with the $9,086,000 allocation during fiscal year 2019/20, which represents a decrease of $10,000 over the prior year. Again, with an ageing infrastructure more maintenance and improvements are a necessity. Mr. Chairman, over $3,000,000 under cost centre 75309, All Schools Maintenance has been spent in 2019/20 on annual capital and improvement work to schools. Most notably are the public schools annual scheduled works for schools and painting to Nort hlands Primary, Paget Primary, Clearwater Middle School and Frances Pat ton Primary. Additionally, each school had a list of regular maintenance and repairs that are tackled over the summer vacation to prepare the schools for the new school year.
Capital Works Plans 2020/21
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchFor 2020/21, there ar e a number of planned capital works that will take place. The schools continue to be a high priority with major works being currently planned for the Easter and summer breaks. Some $3,000,000 has been budgeted for these works. Mr. Chairman, I am happy to advise …
For 2020/21, there ar e a number of planned capital works that will take place. The schools continue to be a high priority with major works being currently planned for the Easter and summer breaks. Some $3,000,000 has been budgeted for these works. Mr. Chairman, I am happy to advise that the refurbishment to the Sessions House has commenced as can be seen by the scaffolding on the exterior. The replacement of all windows and external repairs and painting are currently underway to seal the envelope of the building. The House was moved to this temporary location at Veritas Place in September 2019 to allow the interior works to commence. In conjunction with the Sessions Project is a supporting project to relocate the Criminal Courts to the Dame Lois Browne -Evans Building. Mr. Chai rman, the capital budget has been a llocated in 2020/21 under cost centre 75320 for Parliament Building Refurbishment and Courts Reloc ation. This is for the interior fit out of the Sessions House for the Legislature and includes the works to relocate the co urts from the ground floor of the Ses3424 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly sions House to the Dame Lois Browne- Evans Buil ding. Mr. Chairman, as an aside, I have made a r equest to those people who count beans to separate these two out. It is two different departments and it should be two differ ent bunches. Mr. Chairman, the 2020/21 allocation for capital cost centre 75112, Major Buildings Upgrade Pr ojects is $3,050,000. The account enables the depar tment to carry out major works to improve and rede-velop facilities, to modernise, to make them fit for purpose, and meet statutory compliance. Most notable is the redevelopment of the Agricultural Services Centre in Devonshire which is a critical service for local far mers and for Bermuda’s food supply. The works under this account also include: • refurbi shment of the official residence of the Premier at Camden in the Botanical Gardens; • fire protection upgrades to government offices at Global House; • accessibility improvements to the K. Margaret Carter Centre in Devonshire; • refurbishment works to various go vernment and residential premises. Mr. Chairman, in addition to the above, the Department of Public Lands and Buildings also works with other departments to manage projects and ex ecute works in 2020/21 including: • Westgate Correctional Facility —replacement of steel doors and windows and refurbishment of the residential pods for inmates (and there is an extensive list of current works that are currently going on at the Westgate Correc-tional Facility); • Marine and Ports —workshop improvements; • PTB—staff bathroom s and changing rooms; • Refurbishment and repairs to Lefroy Elderly Care Home; • Mangrove Bay Clinic —refurbishment; and • Police —facilities improvements.
Estates Section
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the E states section under programme 8102 has a total budget of $10,236,000. The Estates section is split between two cost centres, namely: • 91004— Property Asset Management: $4,503,000 • 91005—Insurance: $5,733,000 And, Mr. Chairman, you will note from the general economic debate that we are looking to …
Mr. Chairman, the E states section under programme 8102 has a total budget of $10,236,000. The Estates section is split between two cost centres, namely: • 91004— Property Asset Management: $4,503,000 • 91005—Insurance: $5,733,000 And, Mr. Chairman, you will note from the general economic debate that we are looking to br ing down the cost of those insurances. And those discussions are ongoing. The mandate of the Estates programme is to effectively manage the Government estate, to provide insurance cover on all Government property and to facilitate and secure office and res idential accomm odation for government departments as needed. The Estates section provides property and land-related management service to all government ministries and departments. This service includes i nsurance, acquisition, letting, rental and disposal of land and property across the Island. The section is the custodian of the foreshore and seabed and is responsible for licences and leasing of same. Mr. Chairman, the Property Asset Management, cost centre 91004, together with the Insurance cost centre 91005, have a total allocation of $10,236,000 for this fiscal year as compared with $9,790,000 for the previous year. This represents an increase of $446,000, or 4 per cent due to increased costs for additional staffing including a trainee surve yor, increas ed costs of electricity and insurance. Property Asset Management cost centre 91004 has a total allocation of $4,502,000 when compared to the $4,149,000 for the previous year. This budgeted amount represents an increase of $354,000; which is largely due to the extra costs of electricity for public buildings, contractors’ costs and memberships costs for professional institutions. The budget for insurance $5,733,000 compared to $5,641,000. This is an increase of $92,000, or 1.6 per cent. The increase is largel y due to adjus tment in premiums due to additional buildings.
Asset Management
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, $1,925,000 under cost centre 75099 has been budg-eted for office relocations. Funds will be used to refurbish government spaces, wher e possible, to bring in departments currently renting space in the private sector. This year the second phase of the refurbis hment of the third floor of the …
Mr. Chairman, $1,925,000 under cost centre 75099 has been budg-eted for office relocations. Funds will be used to refurbish government spaces, wher e possible, to bring in departments currently renting space in the private sector. This year the second phase of the refurbis hment of the third floor of the Government Administr ation Building is nearing completion. This is after many delays and will provid e a significant increase in capacity with 31 new workspaces where 17 existed prev iously. Mr. Chairman, the intention is to ensure all Government offices are brought back up to codes and standards as required under the Safety and Health Act and other statut ory requirements, while also i ncorporating new space standards to reduce the amount of space which is allocated to every single government employee—from Ministers down to cler ical staff. These improvements for 2020/21 include offices in the Government Admi nistration and GPO buildings. The account also allows for works required when offices are moved to leased premises.
Land Survey Management
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI now move to pr ogramme 8103, Land Surveys, with cost centre 91007, Bermuda House of Assembly on page B -231. This programme has a budget alloc ation of $328,000 for fiscal year 2020/21 as compared to a budget of $322,000 in the previous year. This section provides traditional and …
I now move to pr ogramme 8103, Land Surveys, with cost centre 91007,
Bermuda House of Assembly on page B -231. This programme has a budget alloc ation of $328,000 for fiscal year 2020/21 as compared to a budget of $322,000 in the previous year. This section provides traditional and specialised land surveying expertise and guidance for the Bermuda Government. For example, the section establishes, maintains and updates a National Control Monument Network across Bermuda, ensuring that private Land Survey Companies have a standardised and internationally compatible coordinate system to utilise. Recently the Land Survey Sec tion worked with Marine and Ports on a National Hydrographic Survey as an international maritime regulatory requirement and the section will have the benefit of updated mapping for both marine and terrestrial areas carried out under this survey. Mr. Chairm an, there are daily many small pr ojects undertaken and completed by the department. Many go unnoticed by the public and are carried out with little or no disruption to government services. To date this year, the department answered approximat ely 3,800 maintenance calls which resulted in small repairs to more major works. Irrespective of size or scope, great emphasis is placed on ensuring that the work is carried out to the highest possible standards by the staff who continue to take pride in their work. This concludes the presentation on Head 81, Public Lands and Buildings. I would now like to move to Head 82, Department of Works and Engineering.
The ChairmanChairmanI have full confidence in your ability to do so, sir.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. B urchWell, I am going to stop whenever the alarm goes, no matter where I am, Mr. Chairman. HEAD 82 —DEPARTMENT OF WORKS AND ENGINEERING
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the mission of the Department of Works and Engineering is: To ensure the effective and prudent management of all operations and engineering services relating to the construction, erection, improvement, maintenance, and repairs of government infrastructure. The operational budget estimates for the department for 2020/21 is $29,29 9,000 which …
Mr. Chairman, the mission of the Department of Works and Engineering is: To ensure the effective and prudent management of all operations and engineering services relating to the construction, erection, improvement, maintenance, and repairs of government infrastructure. The operational budget estimates for the department for 2020/21 is $29,29 9,000 which represents a decrease of $348,000 over last year’s budget. Programme 8200, Administration [page B - 228] provides for the salaried senior management team of the department. The mandate of the senior management team is the efficient management of the seven sections of the department, including: • Highways; • Structures; • Electrical/Mechanical; • Solid Waste; • Water and Sewage; • Tynes Bay Waste- to-Energy Facility; and • Quarry Operations. Mr. Chairman, a $259,000 budget has been allocated for fiscal year 2020/121 and this represents no change, when compared to the 2019/20. Mr. Chairman, programme 8201, Engineering. The mandate of the Engineering Services programme is to provide quality electrical, mechanical, and structural engineering services. A budget of $1,683,000 has been allocated for this programme, representing a decrease of $104,000 compared to the 2019/20 budget. This programme includes cost centres 92001, Electrical and Mechanical Management; cost centre 92002, Electrical Support; and cost centre 92003, Structures. The decrease is from reduced funding of a Mechanical Engineer post which is not set to be filled until later in the fiscal year, and a reduction in Training budgets. The Electrical/Mechanical Management and Electrical Support (92001 and 92002) manage the provision of planning, design, construction, install ation, and maintenance services for electrical and m echanical systems associated with the government’s facilities. Mr. Chairman, cost centre 92001, Electrical and Mechanical Management, is estimated at $673,000, representing a decrease of $75,000 from the original 2019/20 budget. This section provides support on electrical and mechanical issues to other sections and departments throughout government. Mr. Chairman, cost centre 92002, Elec trical Support is mainly used to provide the budget for street lighting. Cost centre 92002, Electrical Support has allocated $501,000, which is $3,000 less than last year. The Structural Engineering Services, 92003 manages the provision of structural ins pections, design, construction, maintenance, project and contract management services, as well as acting as the go vernment’s functional authority on structural and relat-ed civil engineering matters. The budget for this cost centre 92003 is $509,000, which represents a d ecrease of $26,000 against the original 2019/20 budg-et. Programme 8202, Highways. Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Highways programme is to deve l3426 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly op and maintain the public road infrastructure to ensure the safe passage of motorists and pedes trians. This entails all work associated with the planning, design, and construction of road schemes and includes activities such as resurfacing, drainage, signage, road markings, retaining walls, and bus shelters. They are also mandated • to provide technic al advice to other Gover nment ministries and agencies on highway - related matters; • to manage the improvement of public roads; • to assist citizens with their private road i mprovement needs under the Private Roads (Improvement) Act; and • to act as the government functional authority on highways engineering- related matters. Mr. Chairman, a $3,685,000 budget has been allocated to this programme, representing a decrease of $33,000 as compared to the original budget. Cost centre 92004, Management, has a budget of $557,000, which represents an increase of $31,000 compared to 2019/20. The performance measure for cost centre 92004, Highways Management, indicates that the forecast amount of communications received by the team from members of the public during fiscal 2019 /20 is 1,500. The full -time equivalents for the cost centre 92004, Highways Management, are nine, no change from last year. Cost centre 92005, Road Asphalt and Signs, budget is $755,000, which represents an increase of $61,000. Mr. Chairman, the budget for cost centre 92006, Public Roads Maintenance, is $828,000, which represents a decrease of $34,000, when compared to the original 2019/20 budget. This unit is responsible for the maintenance of retaining walls, sidewalks and other masonry works, as well as the highways drai nage systems. The budget for cost centre 92007, Public Road Cleaning, is $1,545,000 and represents a de-crease of $91,000 compared to the previous budget year. The budget for cost centre 92008, Private Roads, which is not in the Budget Bo ok, remains unfunded due to budget constraints. Programme 8203, Waste Management. Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Waste Management programme is to arrange for the collection and safe disposal of Bermuda’s solid waste. The aim of the Waste Management sect ion is to serve the people of Bermuda by providing a comprehensive waste management programme, utilising the best technologies for disposal, recovery of materials and energy r esources, protecting public health and safeguarding the environment. This includes: • education regarding waste reduction, reuse, and recycling; • waste recycling; • waste collection; • composting; • land creation; • high temperature mass burn incineration with energy recovery (waste to energy); • special and hazardous waste disposal; • the management and maintenance of the Tynes Bay Waste- to-Energy Facility in a reli able, safe, and cost -effective manner; and • acting as the government functional authority on all matters relating to solid waste, env ironmental engineering, waste to energy and process engi neering. Mr. Chairman, a budget of $17,292,000 has been allocated for this programme for fiscal 2020/21, which represents an increase of $104,000 as co mpared to the 2019/20 budget. The budget for cost centre 92009, Management, Education, and Enforcement i s $376,000, which represents an increase of $34,000. Mr. Chairman, the budget for cost centre 92011, Recycling, is $1,126,000, which is an increase of $33,000, when compared to original 2019/20. Mr. Chairman, my observation is that the Government is probably one of the worst offenders for not recycling, particularly the Members of this House. So, our initial response to mandatory recycling is to start at home with them —or us. At the start of this year I asked the Education and Enforcement Officer in the Mi nistry to devise a plan for implementation of mandatory recycling throughout government. There are over 60 government locations, so the first step was to get buy -in from the Cabinet and the Public Service Executive. That was the easy part, Mr. Chai rman. Now, it is getting departments to participate. And I am pleased to report that the response, so far, has been encouraging. To date, 11 sections or depar tments are operational and another 26 others are in progress. We anticipate that the process will be complete by the end of this month. The key is to find an advocate in each department who will police their colleagues. And I think that is exactly what the Education Officer is doing. Mr. Chairman, just a brief snapshot of rec yclables collected this year: On average, we currently collect between 40 and 45 tons of recyclables a month. That is approximately 20 to 22 tons every two weeks, so it is increasing. This past fiscal year we shipped overseas 180 bales of aluminium, that is 180,000 pounds; 540 bales of tin, that is 1,080,000 pounds; 10,000 cable TV boxes and computer hard drives and 1,600 air conditioners. Mr. Chairman, we have to [make] a better effort of recycling and I think we are on that path. And if we can get those in Government to actually carry out that process, hopefully, they will carry that idea home. Mr. Chairman, the budget for cost centre 92012, Airport Disposal Facility is $1,262,000, which is an increase of $12,000 from last year’s original
Bermuda House of Assembly budget. And I see my handlers have arrived. Good luck with that. [Inaudible interjection]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchNo, he came in late. Mr. Chairman, the budget for cost centre 92013, Composting Operations, is $1,646,000, which represents a decrease of $147,000 when compared with the original of 20 19/20. This decrease was pr imarily in equipment rental costs, which is projected to be offset by newly purchased equipment. …
No, he came in late. Mr. Chairman, the budget for cost centre 92013, Composting Operations, is $1,646,000, which represents a decrease of $147,000 when compared with the original of 20 19/20. This decrease was pr imarily in equipment rental costs, which is projected to be offset by newly purchased equipment. Mr. Chairman, cost centre 92014, Special and Hazardous Waste, has a budget of $1,338,000, which represents a decrease of $41,000. The budget for cost centre 92029, Collections, is $3,791,000, which is an increase of $114,000 when compared with the original. This increase is due to the filling of vacant labour posts. Mr. Chairman, the Tynes Bay Waste- toEnergy Facility provides refuse disposal and renew able energy for the country. It is anticipated during fi scal 2020/21 that there will be 14 tours of the facility as indicated in the performance measure for 92016, Tynes Bay Administration. The facility is also forecas ting that there w ill be two complaints from the me mbers of the public from the public drop- off facility, and the number of employed power engineers will be 17, an increase of 1 compared to last year. And I might add that those posts are primarily filled by Bermudian engine ers, Mr. Chairman. The budget for cost centre 92016, Tynes Bay Administration, is $585,000 and represents an i ncrease of $11,000. The budget for cost centre 92017, Tynes Bay Operations, is $4,992,000, representing an increase of $190,000. The amount of electricity generated and sold to BELCO is forecasted to be 25,000 kilowatt hours in 2020/21. This is a reduction from estimates due to non-turbine -related steam losses within the plant due to ageing auxiliary equipment, now due for replac ement. Now, I su spect that none of that means an ything to anybody, like it does not to me, so I will put it in dollar terms, Mr. Chairman. Last month, or January, we received a check from BELCO for $1.9 million for two months’ worth of power being generated. So, that gives you an idea of what they are doing. — [Inaudible interjection]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchYes, it puts it in clear perspective. Take your trash to Tynes Bay, do not drop it off at Tatem. The revised forecast for the amount of ash concrete the facility produces is 7,000 cubic yards. This is an increase from last year due to funding costs and overtime which …
Yes, it puts it in clear perspective. Take your trash to Tynes Bay, do not drop it off at Tatem. The revised forecast for the amount of ash concrete the facility produces is 7,000 cubic yards. This is an increase from last year due to funding costs and overtime which led to ash being encapsulated raw at the airport site instead of being processed into blocks. Mr. Chairman, the budget for cost centre 92018, Tynes Bay Maintenance, is $2,083,000, a de-crease of $110,000 from the original fiscal 2019/20 estimate. Programme 8204, Quarry Transport, and 8205, Quarry Products. The mandat e of the two Quarry programmes is, collectively, to manage the fleet and equipment leasing, mechanical maintenance, quarry operations; and to act as the government functional authority on all matters related to fleet management, vehicle, and other mechanic al engineering and maintenance activities. Programme 8204, Quarry Transport, has a budget of $2,431,000 allocated to this programme for 2020/21, representing a decrease of $53,000 as compared to the original budget. The budget for cost centre 92019, Quarry Administration, is $551,000, representing a decrease of $44,000 from the original estimate. Mr. Chairman, the budget for cost centre 92020, Quarry Vehicles and Equipment Operation, is $2,563,000, which has decreased by $10,000 from the original 2019/20 es timate. The budget for cost centre 92021, Quarry V ehicles and Equipment Maintenance, is $4,816,000, which is the same as last year. The budget for cost centre 92034, Quarry R eceipts, (an internal recharge budget with a negative value) is set for $5.5 mill ion and is the same as for fiscal last year. For quarry products, a $2,063,000 budget and a $3,140,000 recharge budget for quarry products have been allocated to this programme. Mr. Chairman, programme 8206, Water and Sewage, the mandate of the Water and S ewage pr ogramme is • to provide planning, design, construction, o peration and maintenance of the Government water extraction, treatment, and distribution systems, and the wastewater collection and distribution systems; • to produce potable water on a cost recovery basis to meet demand; • to provide septage receiving facilities for pr ivate sanitation truckers and for limited public facilities; and • to act as the Government functional authority on all matters related to water and wastewater engineering. Mr. Chairman, a budget of $5,026,000 has been allocated to this programme and this represents a decrease of $148,000. 3428 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly The budget for cost centre 92025, Water and Sewage Administration, is $1,001,000, which repr esents a decrease of $55,000. The budget for cost centre 92026, Water Supply and Treatment, is $2,683,000, which is a decrease of $88,000. This budget ensures that there are sufficient funds allocated to pay for contractors who supply supplementary bulk water, remote monitoring and control systems support, and to pay for the electricity charges associated with pump stations and treatments plants within the infrastructure. The budget for cost centre 92027, Water Sewage and Distribution, is $782,000, which repr esents a decrease of $137,000 which has been reall ocated to cost centre 92028, Sewage Collection, to more accurately reflect operations. Mr. Chairman, the budget for the cost centre 92028, [Sewage Collection], as I just indicated, is $560,000 and has been increased by $132,000.
Review of Major Capital Projects
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, I will now provide a summary of the status of the major capital projects being managed by the Department of Works and Engineering. The overall 2020/21 Capital Expenditure Plan for the Department of Works and Engineering is $16,330,000. Details are found on pages C -6 and C -7 …
Mr. Chairman, I will now provide a summary of the status of the major capital projects being managed by the Department of Works and Engineering. The overall 2020/21 Capital Expenditure Plan for the Department of Works and Engineering is $16,330,000. Details are found on pages C -6 and C -7 [of the Approved Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure 2020/21]. Road Works, CEP cost centre 75042. The estimate for this cost centre is $2,820,000. This budget comprises major maintenance work to the road network, which includes road resurfacing, as well as road improvement schemes such as junction improv ements, road widening, and new sidewalks. For fiscal 2020/21, the major works planned will be in conjunction with the Island- wide BELCO trenching scheme which will see new underground cable laid across the Island over a period of 36 months. This project will replace significant portions of the Island’s 22 kilowatt systems. And the highways reinstatement following the trenching will be between a collaborative effort between the Ministry of Public Works and BELCO. Water Projects, CEP cost centre 75044, this programme is for planned and unforeseen small to medium water and sewage projects, including a r equirement every year to provide equipment and ge neral facility upgrading to meet ongoing treatment, environmental, and safety -related issues. The 2020/21 estimate for this cost centre is $1,050,000. The funding will be used for an advanced water metering sy stem to reduce non- revenue water through early leak detection. It is anticipated that this system will save the government significant amounts in lost revenue after implementation. Water and Sewage Capital Maintenance, CEP cost centre 75345, this line item will be used for var ious system refurbishm ents as required by the ageing plant and infrastructure. This represents no new funding as CEP 75044 was reduced by the same amount. Essentially, the new CEP was created for better trac king and asset management. The 2020/21 estimate for this cost centre is $342,000. Improvements in Street Lighting, CEP cost centre 75046. Mr. Chairman, the estimate for this cost centre is $560,000. This budget is used to cover the ongoing LED modernisation project currently being delivered by BELCO. Bus Shelters, CEP cost c entre 75048. Mr. Chairman, the 2020/21 estimate for this cost centre is $30,000. This will see one new shelter built for the coming year. Not a position I like to be in, and so we will be looking to scrounge money from elsewhere to increase that number. Private Road Street Lighting, CEP cost centre 75051. The estimate for this cost centre is zero. This budget is normally used to provide extra lighting on private roads, but due to budget constraints, no service is planned for this next year. St. George’s Sew age Treatment Plant, CEP cost centre 75061. Mr. Chairman, the estimate for this cost centre is $530,000. This budget supports impl ementation of the previous St. George’s water and wastewater master plan, which has been expanded to include the greater island of St. George’s. The major ity of the funding will be used for further study and i mplementation costs. Asbestos Removal, CEP cost centre 75064. Mr. Chairman, the estimate for this cost centre is $1,750,000, which will be used to continue the repac king of containers which have deteriorated too far at the government quarry, and also to ship adequately packed materials to the United States for permanent disposal. This funding will also cover engineering costs for local disposal options for asbestos materials that cannot be repacked and shipped overseas. Structural Refurbishment of Bridges, CEP cost centre 75116. Mr. Chairman, the estimate for this cost centre is $850,000. This budget will be used to carry out repair work on Watford Bridge, which was delayed last year, as well as replace the Bailey Bridge located at Coney Island. Refurbishment Ferry Docks and Public Landings, CEP cost centre 75117. Mr. Chairman, the est imate for this cost centre is zero, as following major repairs on King’s Wharf and Heritage [W harf] last year and a survey of all wharfs and docks, no major works are planned for the coming year. Reconstruction of Retaining Walls, CEP cost centre 75127. Mr. Chairman, the estimate for this budget is also zero. No work is planned for this initi ative during the upcoming budget year due to cost r eductions; however, efforts will be made—a greater effort will be made—to secure insurance funding from
Bermuda House of Assembly those people that demolished public walls to ensure that they pay for them to be reinstated. Foreshore Prot ection Work, CEP cost centre 75144. This cost centre is used to carry out repairs and for mitigating measures to the foreshore. The 2020/21 estimate for this budget is $500,000 to address critical areas of North Shore Road and the for eshore at the Westgate Correctional Facility. Causeway Refurbishment, CEP cost centre 75207. The estimate for the cost centre is zero dollars. No work is planned for this initiative during the upcoming budget year due to cost reduction. Howe ver, the inspections that have been c arried out on the Causeway do not give cause for alarm, so we are able to skip a year without any maintenance. Tynes Bay Waste- to-Energy Treatment E xpansion, CEP cost centre 75210. Mr. Chairman, cap ital funding for fiscal 2020/21 is zero dollars. No work is planned for this initiative during the upcoming budget year as long- term planning for the facility is now part of a larger scheme to involve the Water and Wastewater Master Plan for the Island. Additionally, significant amounts of money have been spent i n this current fiscal year to provide for maintenance to Tynes Bay. Dangerous Walls and Rock Cuts (Highways), CEP cost centre 75258. The estimate for this cost centre is $100,000. This cost centre is used to carry out repairs to collapsed walls and rock cuts. Additio nally, as most cases of these damages occur due to vehicle accidents, the Government will increasingly be seeking insurance coverage for these accidents as well from the vehicle owners to pay for the damage. Quarry Refurbishment, [CEP cost centr e 75264]. Mr. Chairman, the 2020/21 estimate for this cost centre is $1,046,000 which will be used to fund upgrades at the Quarry Depot. Two new buildings have been added to the site, which were relocated from Morgan’s Point, the former Artemis buildings. The funds will be used to fit -out the building interiors with garage equipment and tools as well as a store room . . . stores.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchNo. Mr. Chairman, here we are . . . [Pembroke Canal Upgrade], CEP cost centre 75293. This pr ogramme is for the upgrade of the Pembroke Canal. The estimate for this cost centre is zero dollars this year. While no funding has been allocated for the next budget year, the …
No. Mr. Chairman, here we are . . . [Pembroke Canal Upgrade], CEP cost centre 75293. This pr ogramme is for the upgrade of the Pembroke Canal. The estimate for this cost centre is zero dollars this year. While no funding has been allocated for the next budget year, the Ministry is looking at ways to advance initiatives to address canal issues through str ategic partnerships with stakeholders. And I can say that the PS and I had recent discu ssions with an ex ternal party who has some si gnificant expertise in this regard who may be able to help us. Reverse Osmosis Plants Electrical Systems, CEP cost centre 75294. This programme has been created for the as -needed upgrade of all the electrical control and remote monitoring systems in each of the water facilities . The estimate for this cost centre is $293,000. Tynes Bay Capital Maintenance, CEP cost centre 75308. The 2020/21 estimate for this cost centre is $2,480,000 and will be used for the installation of a new clinker crane and the refurbishment of the bulky w ay share and some minor boiler works. Morgan’s Point Works, CEP cost centre 75324. The estimate for this cost centre is $200,000. These funds will be used to address any further co ntamination discovered during the Morgan’s Point site development. Solid Was te Capital Maintenance, CEP cost centre 75043. The estimate for this cost centre is $450,000 and will primarily be used to replace ageing equipment and infrastructure at four sites: Special Waste Depot in Sally Port; recycling at the gover nment quarry; com posting at Marsh Folly; and the land reclamation at the airport. Swing Bridge Refurbishment, CEP cost centre 75096. The estimate for this cost centre is $1,750,000. This budget will be used to advance the environmental assessment and planning application for both the Swing and Longbird Bridges. It is planned for this work to advance the project to tendering and procurement stage by the next fiscal year.
Review of Major Capital Acquisitions
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, I would now like to pr ovide you with a summary of the status of the major acquisitions being managed by the D epartment of Works and Engineering, the details of which can be found on page C -14. Vehicles and Equipment, [CEP cost centre 76495]. The vehicles …
Mr. Chairman, I would now like to pr ovide you with a summary of the status of the major acquisitions being managed by the D epartment of Works and Engineering, the details of which can be found on page C -14. Vehicles and Equipment, [CEP cost centre 76495]. The vehicles and equipment to be replaced under the 2020/21 [budget] are those that have sur-passed their useful economic life and are in poor and/or dangerous condition. The focus for next year will be the replacement of essential heavy equipment, such as payloaders, excavators, crane truck s, et cetera that are essential to the Ministry’s road maintenance and cleaning services. The purchase of this equipment will be critical to the Ministry carrying out its support of the aforementioned BELCO trenc hing initiative. The estimate for this annu al year is $2,745,000. And that brings me to the close of Head 82, Department of Works and Engineering, Mr. Chairman. I am getting there . . . slightly over. 3430 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly I would now like to move to the final Head, Mr. Chairman, 97, the Department of Land Title and Re gistration. Is that fine by you, Mr. Chairman?
[Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell , Chairman]
The ChairmanChairmanCarry on, Minister, please. Thank you. HEAD 97 —LAND TITLE AND REGISTRATION
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the D epartment of Land Title and Registration’s mandate is: Guaranteeing land titles, simplifying property transactions, and using digital technology to maintain data security. Additionally, the department’s objectives are: • to create and maintain an electronic register of all legal estates and interests in land thus providing securit …
Mr. Chairman, the D epartment of Land Title and Registration’s mandate is: Guaranteeing land titles, simplifying property transactions, and using digital technology to maintain data security. Additionally, the department’s objectives are: • to create and maintain an electronic register of all legal estates and interests in land thus providing securit y for owners and third parties; • to publish as much of its data as possible in a way that i s easy to access and understand; • to maximise the use of its data for the benefit of wider society and drive innovation in the digital economy ; • to use digital technology to reduce the time needed to receive, process, and deliver services to its customers, making them instant aneous wherever possible; • to continue to reassess its processes, using technology to make them as simple as poss ible for customers and colleagues alike, using continuous improvement and new technology to ensure its systems are as efficient as possible; • to create and maintain the Index Map; • to maintain the Deeds Registry and ensure transfer notices are completed within 10 days of receiving the application. Mr. Chairman, the Land Title Registration O ffice [LTRO] strives to become a world- leading Land Registry Office, and I believe that they are well on their way to doing just that, which means being outstanding at delivering its basic and core statutory services. Its aim is to make dealing with them quick and simple by becoming even more customer -focused and efficient while upholding its professional values at all times. Mr. Chairman, the Land Title and Regis tration Department, has two Registration programmes, 9701 and 9702, with the accompanying cost centres of 10700 and 10730, which are found on page B -246 of the Budget Book. These programmes comprise two primary areas: Administration and Land Title Management. The total current expenditure for the depar tment is estimated to be $1,463,000. This represents an increase of $65,000 over last year’s budget. Mr. Chairman, once again, the bulk of the expenditure represents salaries, and the increase r elates to the employment of consultants as additional staff to assist the department. Management Services are reviewing the Land Title Registration Office as it is recognised that it is woefully understaffed. The second biggest expenditure derives from the administr ation running cost of leasing the Land Title Registr ation’s Office in Milner Place. Mr. Chairman, the LTRO is still in its infancy, it has been operational for 17 months. It has three main aims. The first of which is to register all land and property in Bermuda as this will help to make conve yancing simpler, cheaper and faster, by moving from an unregistered system of ownership based on pr ivately held title deeds to full registration of land. The second aim is to provide a comprehensive land register that is enabled and supported dig itally, with high quality comprehensive data. Such i nformation will be a significant tool to help and support the housing market and give a better understanding of the economic growth or decline in it. Mr. Chairman, the third aim of t he Land Title Registration Office is to assist the Government in its vision to stop land fraud. One of the LTRO’s primary duties is to adjudicate on land disputes. Many hom eowners are property rich but cash poor; thus, they are unable to fight any disputes that they may have with their neighbours. The LTRO provides a service when a property is being registered. It will adjudicate on a land dispute to ensure that the title is settled before it is registered. In this role, the LTRO acts as an inde-pendent part y and will hear disputes involving private landowners; however, any decision that the LTRO makes on ownership of land is based entirely on the legislation and case law. The LTRO is a department separate from other departments to ensure that its role as a quasi -adjudicator is not affected by outside influences. This gives members of the public a sense of security when bringing a claim concerning their land. Mr. Chairman, the LTRO’s revenue for 2020/21 can be found on page B -247 and is projected to be $701,000. This revenue covers the work from the Deed Registry as well as the Land Title Registry Office. Some of the increase is due to the influx of cases released from the Office of the Tax Commi ssioner. From the date of its opening, the LTRO regi stration fees were set on a sliding scale, which relates to the value of the property being registered. The LTRO fees have remained the same so that the cost of registration does not have an adverse effect on purchasers or first -time buyers who have a lower i ncome and are looking to acquire a property. Mr. Chairman, the LTRO is a small multi - skilled department. It has a total of 10 full -time pos itions budgeted for this fiscal year. Consultants currently occupy three of those positions. There are two vacant positions within the LTRO at the moment. The
Bermuda House of Assembly need for proper succession planning has been recognised from the outset. Employing and training Berm udians will facilitate the sustainability of the department, and building the organisational capacity is a priority. The department will also be looking at ways to support staff within the department in their continued professional development and training. And may I state for the record, Mr. Chairman, that we have not had some success . . . I think we have had two Bermudians rotate in and out and have . . . throwing in the towel. That is the disappointing part. What is encouraging, Mr. Chairman, is that I r eceived an email about two weeks ago, no, maybe a month ago now, from the former head boy at the Berkeley Institute, he is on Rotary Exchange in Brazil. And he indicated that he had been looking at the go vernment website at jobs and he wanted to spend his summer in the Land Title Registration Office and I thought, Praise the Lord! A 19-year-old actually knows that the office ex ists and wants to go there? So, needless to say, we are moving heaven and earth to have him in that office this summer.
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Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchNo, T. N. Tatem. Mr. Chairman, business unit 107030, Land T itle Management, in the past year, the Land Title Registration Office undertook and achieved the following performance measures . . . I am going to pass on those. If you have got a question, I will answer. Mr. Chairman, …
No, T. N. Tatem. Mr. Chairman, business unit 107030, Land T itle Management, in the past year, the Land Title Registration Office undertook and achieved the following performance measures . . . I am going to pass on those. If you have got a question, I will answer. Mr. Chairman, Major Achievements I would like to highlight. The LTRO commenced an integration project with the Department of Land Valuation —which I talked briefly about this morning—to interface Landfolio with the Land Valuation’s data management sy stem. This initiative means that the LTRO will no longer need to send paper information to Land Valuation. Their system now automatically, on completion of a register, pulls the information from Landfolio that it requires. This new process has been up and running since June of last year, and is working well. The int egration has st reamlined the process of providing i nformation and has allowed LTRO to provide a more efficient service to the Department of Land Valuation. And I will repeat what I said this morning, that I recommend to the wider government that those two departments be the gold standard and a template for future efficiencies.
Access to Land Information via the Web
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe Land Title Regi stration Office Public Access Module (PAM) now has a payment gateway in place and will be ready to be rolled out this coming fiscal year. PAM, as it is called, will allow the public to check their deeds information online to ensure that it is correct. …
The Land Title Regi stration Office Public Access Module (PAM) now has a payment gateway in place and will be ready to be rolled out this coming fiscal year. PAM, as it is called, will allow the public to check their deeds information online to ensure that it is correct. It will also enable stakeholders to carry out searches online without ha v-ing to attend the Land Title Registrati on Office. By introducing PAM, this will assist the office in becoming paperless in the future. The LTRO legislation and triggers mostly govern the work that they receive. So far this year; they have received the 572 Land Title Registration applications. T his includes: • conveyances on sale; • mortgages; • cautions against first registration; • search applications. The office is also committed to accepting vo luntary registration applications from the public and has received 107 applications to date. The office has a legislative duty to maintain a judgment register. It has registered 45 such judgment applications to date. The office still maintains the Deeds Registry for applications that do not trigger Land Title Registr ation. So far, this fiscal year they have rec eived 675 such applications.
Plans for the Upcoming Year
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Chairman, the key projects for 2020/21 are as follows: • The office is now looking to explore and pr ovide further security to their data by introducing new Blockchai n technology to its system. In essence, Blockchain is a digital database (or ledger) distributed across a network of computers. …
Mr. Chairman, the key projects for 2020/21 are as follows: • The office is now looking to explore and pr ovide further security to their data by introducing new Blockchai n technology to its system. In essence, Blockchain is a digital database (or ledger) distributed across a network of computers. The records are protected by cryptography (secret codes) and are therefore protected against human error, or the editing or removal of data. Blockchain has been tout-ed as the future of land registries due to the myriad of benefits it offers. Firstly, it has the potential to reduce fraud significantly. Bloc kchain technology could also speed up the conveyancing and registration process. This, in turn, would also lead to greater efficiencies and cost savings for the Land Title Registr ation Office. • The office will also continue to digitise the Deeds Registry records. [There have been] 58,000 applications scanned thus far, and they are working their way through creating Deeds Registry registers for them. Mr. Chairman, let me close by saying I am fully aware that the people in the Ministry of Public Works have never seen the likes of me before, and are unlikely to see the likes of me again. And I will just leave it at that now. But I refer to them that the complaint department is at 105 Front Street. I do wish, however, Mr. Chairman, to offer a special thank you to the eight heads of the depar tments and quangos that make up the Ministry of Pu blic Works, ably led by Department Permanent Secr etary Mr. Randy Rochester. They are: Mr. Gideon Kigo3432 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly tho, the Chief Financial Officer of the Department of Finance and Administration; Mrs. Diane Elliot, the D irector of Land Valuation; Ms. Sudell Joseph, who is currently Acting Director of the Department of Parks; Mr. Steve Conway, the Chief Surveyor of Public Lands and Buildings; Mr. Kirk Outerbridge, the Chief Engineer of the Department of Works and Engineering; and Mrs. Debbie Reid, the Land Registrar , Department of Land Title and Registration. And the two quangos: Mr. Andrew Dias, the General Manager of WEDCO; and Major Barrett Dill, the CEO of BLDC and General Manager of Bermuda Housing Corpor ation. And, of course, their teams, without whom the Minis try will not be able to function to the level that it does. Mr. Chairman, I sincerely believe in the motto of the Ministry: Business as usual just won’t do. I am not so sure everybody has bought into that motto— in fact, I am sure everybody has not bought i nto that motto, but I am not deterred. And I will have more to say on that at the end of this debate, so I will simply end by saying to the team, thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Minister. Any further speakers? I recognise the Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Cannonier. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to start off where the Honourable Minister has ended off and, too, echo the sentiments of the heads of these departments that we …
Thank you, Minister. Any further speakers? I recognise the Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Cannonier.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to start off where the Honourable Minister has ended off and, too, echo the sentiments of the heads of these departments that we have been discussing, these different heads, and the fine work that they do. It is evident, after having listened to the Mini ster, that a lot of work has taken place, that Public Works is really in the middle of some dynamic change. And it is always very, very difficult when ev eryone usually wants to see change, but when it comes to them they are kind of slow at it. And so, the comprehensive . . . the detail . . . I was going to say to the Minister . . . I could have let him go on for, it looked like he probably had about three and a half hours of reading and we could have closed it out. It was comprehensive. But now that he has cut some of it short, we have got a few questions that we would like to get answered. But I must say, the briefing that he has given was very, very, very good and speaks volumes to the efforts that he is putting in, quite frankly, to ensure that Bermuda not only looks good, [but that] it is operating well, and the staff —the civil servants —are getting the training that they need and the likes. So, again, I say thank you to the Minister and thank you to his team — he has some here at this present time in assistance — for the fine work that they are doing. I am squinting just a little bit, I do not have a light over me, so it is a bit difficult. The lighting is a bit odd. So, I would like to turn over to page B -28 on the Ministry of Public Works —
The ChairmanChairmanPage B . . .? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Page B -218, sorry, B -218. I am going to try to read without my glasses here. And on this page, we have a general summary, of cours e, which highlights . . . and we will get into some of …
Page B . . .?
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Page B -218, sorry, B -218. I am going to try to read without my glasses here. And on this page, we have a general summary, of cours e, which highlights . . . and we will get into some of the subjective analysis as we go through. We certainly can see under the Current Expenditure . . . as we go down, we can see more highlighted on the Parks, that in totality we are looking at about $355 ,000 less there. And then if we go down to Head 81, Public Lands and Buildings, we see also that there is an improvement in spending of $447,000. Works and Engineering, between the original amount and the estimated amount, we can see that there has been a drawback of about $348,000. As we go through the analysis, the Honourable Member did mention some of the reasons for this. If we go further on down, we can see under Revenue that, in fact, we are looking to take in more money, it is about $968,000. I did want to take a closer look at that just to understand a little more as to the forecast and how we believe that we will be taking in more revenue. There were some answers. And if we go down, under Revenue, quite frankly, Works and Engineering has a huge increase there of $957,000 so we are going to look for a little more detail on that. Under Capital Expenditure and Development, if you will, what I will probably do, because it is quite extensive and there are a few questions there, I am going to move through all of the Heads and then come back to that and spend some time just on that as we move through, if you do not mind. True to word, the Minister has kept to . . . he continues to talk about the employee numbers and, certainly, I understand that challenge. During the fiscal prudence that we are living under, it is a challenge when you are attempting to get work done and, usua lly, the first thing that is said is, Well, you know, we need another employee. Rather than looking at ma ybe how we can change something up, many times the first sense is if we can get an extra person then it may relieve that stress. And I know that the Minister is not always of that mind, bearing in mind that there are some areas of the last department that he just spoke of that, you know, they have been calling for people for some time. They certainly are responsible for large amounts of revenue, but with a very small number of emplo yees, the work that they do is quite fantastic. The Minister also mentioned in his brief that we have about 751 buildings. And so, one of the first questions that I r eally wanted to get to was: Is there any anticipation (I know that we have been talking about it for some time now) of selling off some of
Bermuda House of Assembly these buildings that we do have that are out there? Is there a process in place so that if anyone has interest in some of these buildings that they can participate in trying to find out whether or not they are available . . . if there is a process in place? But with 751 buildings we know that financially maintaining all of these buildings is a bit of a challenge. Are there any plans, moving forward with what was already in place to sell off some of these buil dings, including post offices and the likes? So, if we can find out about that. I will turn over to page B -220 under the Ge neral Summary. If we take a look here we will see that . . . let me just skip over my page here and I will come back to that other page. If we take a look here we understand that under 3601, Head Office Administration, there was . . . he did explain to us about the Admi nistration concerning training information and the likes. But if we take a look, there is approximately $21,000 difference there. That is not a whole lot; maybe it is just due to a cushion, per se, for Administration. At any time within Administration there should be some fluctuation, I am assuming that that is that, and that is the situation. If we take a look at 46999, Hurricane Expenses, there is nothing allocated there. But certainly it appears as if we may have had to do some work. Is that due to the hurricane that we just had? And interestingly enough, there used to be Hurricane Relief under 46998 and I was not sure if we had just done away with that at all, because now we have a different item or unit number, which i s 46999. I do not know if there is a difference between the two. Maybe we can have an explanation for that. But in the past, I reme mber it being under 46998. If we go down further, under 3610, Accounts and Finance Management, it was interesting to listen that Accounts now is focusing in on debt collection, as he mentioned in his brief. And, of course, he gave quite some detail about some of the things that it is involved with —payroll payments, et cetera, monthly reports and the likes. These guys are very, v ery, very busy. Under Finance Management, I was not quite sure . . . I thought it might have to do with staffing, per se, but with all of the different kinds of things that they do, it was a bit odd to see an $18,000 less amount. It could be for any number of things. I was thinking it might have been due to supplies or whatever the case may be, but that probably would not fit there. It is just an odd amount. If we move forward to 3611, Purchasing, this Purchasing Administration, we do see that there is a $62,000 increase there. And the Minister did say that this was . . . they are focusing on inventory control. So, I am assuming that this was due to an increase in staffing to get that up to par for focusing in on control. I could be wrong. It would be interesting to hear what that is. But it seems to make sense in that particular area. If we move forward, down below there, and we look at Telecommunications, this was quite inter-esting as I was listening to the Minister. Under 3612, Telecommunications he mentioned in answering . . . underspend there, he was talking about we were moving to a new network system that led to the savings. I am curious as to what that network system is. But I do know that a lot has been going into telecommunic ations and upgrading. We did hear in a previous debate the Premier and myself debating the projects that they were doing from the Cabinet Office. So I know that they have been looking at new phone systems and the likes. So, I can see where the decrease will come into place. At first, I was thinking maybe it was due to . . . and I am asking this question: Is this also going to reduce . . . this new network, will it reduce staffing to any degree, so that the numbers that are there for the staffing for Telecommunications . . . will t here be a reduction with this new network system that we see there? And, again, the Minister was quite extensive in his explanation as to the new technologies that they want to increase. He also mentioned about poles, that there were some poles that they w ere going to be r eplacing. So, I am not sure how much of that increase goes toward the poles, but he did mention that as well. If we go down to 3613, Human Resources, and if I just follow through here and go down to unit 46118, Training and Development, and I know that this has always been —especially for Ministers —they always want to make sure that they have got enough training going on. We did hear quite a bit of training that has been going on throughout the broad of Public Works and the different Heads f rom the Minister. In Training and Development there is a lesser spend of about $77,000. I am curious. Are we finding a bit more expertise on the Island that we can do training? Or does this have to do with on- Island training that we are reducing? Or is thi s mostly having to do with overseas training that we have cut back on? He did mention, under Training and Development, that they [are] devoted to Bermudian advanc ement. This is really, really good to hear. And I just wanted to echo the sentiments of the Mi nister when he spoke of Ricardo and his progress, he spoke of, was it Zeko? A mechanical engineer (I am trying to remember all of these names that he wrote down). I think what I really want to just say there is that . . . what a fantastic job that we have seen. We have seen many of them in the House here on many occasions where the Minister has given them accolades. He also spoke to two bursary students, Ms. Butterfield and Mr. Richards, I believe it was. We just want to also congratulate them. What I did hear, which was new, was that 15 of the Ministry’s workers are getting their GED qualif ications, and that was really, really interesting and good to hear. I hope that that continues. 3434 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly And he also mentioned about the . . . there were 79 applications from univ ersity students. That is a good sign, because I do know that within Headquarters of Public Works it has been a challenge in trying to get qualified Bermudians, especially with some of these hard- to-fill positions. So, there seems to be an effort of getting to a point whereby we are filling these positions by qual ified Bermudians and getting them to that point. So, to all of the members that he mentioned I want to say congratulations to them for the fine work that they have been doing. Under 3614, unit number 46040, Architecture and Design, I was writing fairly quickly and I cannot recall exactly what was some of the reasoning behind the . . . if you look at Architecture and Design, the i ncrease of $115,000. I do recall something about cap ital recharges or something to that effect, and I could be wrong, but it would be good to hear, once again, what the increase has to do with there. And, again, a challenge in trying to get qualified people; sometimes we have to go out and get professional services outside of the civil service government allocation, so it would be good to hear about that. Now, I am going to move over to [page] B - 221. Under Salaries, we did get an explanation for the $176,000 less, and I want to thank the Minister for that. I was very much concerned trying to understand, if the number of employees had not quite changed that drastically, then what did that have to do with? Under Professional Services we have a plus of $66,000, if we compare the original to the estimate. That may have to do w ith having to go out and get extra services for Architecture and Design, I am not sure. But I am assuming that this plays a big role in that there. Also, I did take note of the Materials and Supplies, an increase of $91,000. So, the original amount was $237,000 and the estimate this year is for $328,000; which is a $91,000 increase. Is that due to an increased administration because we are going to be doing other works that he has already mentioned? What does that primarily have to do with for Materials and Supplies? We know that they have some works coming up, new things happening and coming up, maybe they are anticipating that, which is what that has to do with. So, we would like to hear about that. Bear with me just a minute here . . . I did not have an y questions on the employee numbers. Again, the Minister has been holding the line, doing the best that he can with the numbers that he does have. So, no real questions there. So, if I could move on to Performance Measures —
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm, [page] B -223? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —on page B -223. Under business unit 46111, Administration, I just had a question on the second point that says conduct safety and health assessments and corrective action plans for the operational areas. I am assuming that this goes across the board …
Mm-hmm, [page] B -223?
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —on page B -223. Under business unit 46111, Administration, I just had a question on the second point that says conduct safety and health assessments and corrective action plans for the operational areas. I am assuming that this goes across the board for all of the depar tments or for all of government, period. So, I would just like a clarification on that. Does that include schools as well for the safety and health assessments and corrective action? Certainly, with all of the things that are going on now it would be very interesting [to know] whether or not the Safety and Health Officer has been going around talking about the coronavirus as well as some of the things that we need to. Has that been taking place? We know that many businesses are doing that, but is that happening within civil service? Has that been taken on as a mandate by Public Works, be-cause it does manage all of these buildings? Or ma ybe these different ministries are handling it ind ependently. But, because we do have a Health and Safety Officer that falls in these areas, it would be i nteresting to hear whether or not they are addressing this issue for all buildings, understanding also that probably, next to Education, Public Works hires just about [the] most c ivil servants in one block. We need to get the information out there about what is best practice and, of course, they are in contact with the public as well. So, it would be inter-esting to hear if they have got anything in place that addresses that. If we go down . . . oh, he did answer that a lready, sorry. Under business unit 46113, Purchasing Administration, it says meet the expected delivery deadline by overseas goods orders by operational areas . And that is to be removed. I was wondering, how we are tr acking that now. Or is someone else assisting with a system now that we are not tracking it? And why are we not tracking that anymore? An ytime you are inputting goods, certainly you want to be able to track them and know exactly where they are. And I know within Public Works a lot of times it is an emergency. I recall one time travelling back on a plane and I saw Public Works officers and they had gone up—physically flown up themselves —and picked up the parts because it was cheaper to do it that way. So, is that kind of like a new norm? Are we looking at that as one of the measures that we do use, that we send someone up that can actually get the parts fairly quickly, as opposed to going through the traditional method, either online or over the phone? So, w hy are we not tracking that? And lastly, the last one on page B -223, meeting demand of our customers for maintenance service items, it may be a similar reason as to why we are not doing also, the first one that I just mentioned, I do not know. But we certainly want to be able to, as far as customer maintenance is concerned, keep an eye on whether or not we are meeting the demands of these
Bermuda House of Assembly maintenance needs, whether it be in water works, wherever it may be, so that we have a file in case . . if there is a challenge. So, I will flip over to page B -224. And under Performance Measures, business unit 46118, Training and Development, the Minister did mention several subjects that they have been doing to complete Lunch and Learns for the year. I believe he mentione d that there was some CPR, First Aid training that goes on during those Lunch and Learns. And so, as far as going into the new year, I know he mentioned some that had already been done. Does he have an idea of what those upcoming subjects might be for the Lunch and Learns? Maybe it is a hot topic right now, either dea ling with mould or dealing with the coronavirus, I do not know. Maybe they have an agenda already, ma ybe they do not. So, it would be interesting if they have decided on that. If you go down under the same business unit 46118, Training and Development, Career Outreach, I was not quite sure who handles this, this Career Out-reach. We certainly heard from the Minister of the many efforts and things that they have been doing as far as career outreac h is concerned in isolation. But does the Headquarters itself have a plan in place on how they do career outreach and getting to our young people and the likes to let them know of these hard- tofill positions? That kind of a thing. If we can catch them ear ly . . . I do not know if there is a plan in place, but what is that Career Outreach? How does that work? Also, bear with me just a minute. Okay, I asked that question already there. I would like to move on to the next Head, which is Head 49. And, as I mentioned, I will go through the Heads and then I would like to go back to the Capital Acquisitions and Capital Development, there are many questions there.
The ChairmanChairmanCarry on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, under Head 49, Land Valuation, again, I would li ke to lend my support behind the sentiments of the Minister, as he mentioned that this is a model area, a department which, quite frankly, has always pushed beyond their weight. And I cannot …
Carry on.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, under Head 49, Land Valuation, again, I would li ke to lend my support behind the sentiments of the Minister, as he mentioned that this is a model area, a department which, quite frankly, has always pushed beyond their weight. And I cannot thank them enough for the valiant work that they do. If we go ov er to page B -226, the Minister certainly . . . I was grateful for the answers that he gave as far as the Professional Services, Materials and Supplies, because I was a bit concerned that they were not getting the assistance, which has always been a challenge, looking for assistance in this area. But those Professional Services had to do with reevaluation, the fact that those costs were there and so they have come out. I do recognise that we are going to be moving into another phase of re- evaluation and he did give a summary on that, which was good. He also spoke to the tribunal hearing, appeals tribunal hearing, so I am grateful for that. But I did write something down here as he was talking, so if I will just go through it again. Ah! Yes. He mentioned her e in this area about difficult -tofill positions. And I also would like to add to the sent iments with the Minister to congratulate Ms. Busby on graduating the real estate course that she had taken. And I know that surveying has always been a cha llenging ar ea, so it is really, really good to see we have a Bermudian there. And also to congratulate Judy Ming was it? I think it was Judy Ming, I think he mentioned Judy Ming, a student that has not graduated yet, but is moving towards graduation.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I am not sure if it was masters or not, but I just wanted to send support to both of these ladies, because I do know this is a very, very difficult area to get Bermudians in. Finally, we see some end to the proverbi al hole, or tunnel, here, that we have got some Bermudians coming into those positions, which is a great thing. And the Minister and his team need to be congratulated for that. So what I would like to do is go to the Performance Measures on [page] B -227. Under Performance Measures, the very first item, business unit 59080, Valuation, it says, amend the valuation list for all changes within 20 working days, receiving notification of a change to a property . And the Minister did speak to some of this. He spoke to the fact that, in this particular area, Land Valuation is responsible for about $85 million in revenue that we take in, about $9 million in stamp duty, that they are the basis for this. And I guess what I was wondering, because these guys are so effi cient in this particular department, as I know, 65 per cent target outcome seems to be a bit low for these guys. I mean, for these guys, 100 per cent is low to them. I am just wondering why it is at 65 per cent. Is it due to staffing, potentially, that the y need? Or is the system manual, that it is taking more time than they would like? So, it would be interesting to hear about that from the Minister. Also, the next point was . . . and this is a new measure, I might add. It says, receive no more than 5 per cent objections to proposals served to amend the valuation list on the ground that the ARV is incorrect or unfair, having regard to other ARVs in this list. I am just curious as to why they were thinking they wanted to make this a new measurement. I think I know why and understand where they are going with this here, but it would be nice to hear from them as to why they felt that this was necessary as a new measurement, considering, you know, these guys, they may get complaints, but the resolution is incredible, that very, very rarely is there an ongoing challenge here. So, it would be nice to understand the new measurement here as to what they were thinking behind that. 3436 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly He also mentioned a bit of an education to maybe some of the other departments, people processed and performance, these kinds of success and the model that they have been following. He also mentioned about new initiatives. What is remarkable is that these guys do some pretty good work and the Minister did mention 36,000 units, and they are very, very efficient with this. So, I just want to thank him for that update that he gave. Yes, okay, and he mentioned about . . . oh, the last paper -based re- evaluation that will take place. So, that was good to hear as well, that coming into the next term it will be paperless. And I know that they have been on a trajectory of getting to that point. So, I will then move on from there to Head 53, Housing Corporation. And although Housing Corpor ation does not have much here as far as financials, the Minist er did give quite a comprehensive . . . and he probably even cut it short there, but details as to the Housing Corporation. They have always done a fantastic job. I did not hear, though, I believe that the Housing Corporation has taken over BLDC. If they have not taken [it] over, are they involved in the management of it at all? I was curious as to . . . if they are involved in the management of BLDC, what changes, potentially, have they seen that can be made or have they implemented as they are now helping [to] ma nage BLDC? What challenges, maybe, have they found? And what opportunities? Obviously, with such a lan dmass there I am sure that they are looking at some opportunities that might be down there. Have they identified, coming into management . . . Major Dill, and having conversations . . . in fact, I just spoke to him the other day about some prospective of looking at BLDC and just wanted to give him heads up. What other opportunities is he seeing with the landmass down there that could take place? Now, one of the things that has come up, and I have kept looking for it myself, was integrating (and we will get to some of that in Works and Engineering), the joining of water and sewage systems and having BLDC be the hub for that. So, I am going to get to that in more detail when we get to Works and Engineering.
The ChairmanChairmanOkay. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Now, the derelict buildings . . . he also mentioned under Bermuda Housing Corporation that there were many derelict . . . well, I should not say “many ” derelict, but identified that there were derelict buildings and that people had been approaching either himself …
Okay.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Now, the derelict buildings . . . he also mentioned under Bermuda Housing Corporation that there were many derelict . . . well, I should not say “many ” derelict, but identified that there were derelict buildings and that people had been approaching either himself or others within the Housing Corporation. I was hoping that maybe he could just let the public know what they should do if they are interested in some of these derelict buildings, to get more information. How can they get more information? Is there like a hotline or something? But is there a number that can be called? I am sure he does not want to be bombarded with a whole lot of calls, but who do they co ntact? Who is the contact person in looking at that? Certainly, people are looking for options when it comes to some of these buildings. So, if we can get them filled, then that goes a long way in maintaining them as well and taking them off the hands, quite frankly, of the taxpayer. It was good to hear about the intern pr ogramme. The Minister did mention about they have an intern programme, which is good in relation to the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck and the likes. I was curious (let me just put a note here so I can come back to it), he did mention that the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck was handling our bulk waste, and that was one of those things that kind of went by the wayside. So, who do they call? Is there a fee for this, if you want bulk waste to be picked up? Is there a number to call, if you want someone to come by? Because I know that the public is probably not . . . a large part of the public may not be aware that the H.U.S.T.L.E. Truck is doing this, so it would be good to get some more information on that. And I am glad that the Minister also, in defence of the Housing Corporation, stated quite clearly that they do not evict because of difficulty in paying. And it is important that the public is aware of that. Having been in this area and knowing some of the challenges that have taken place, it really needs to be a gross situation before the Housing Corporation puts its foot down. Just as soon as Wednesday there was som eone coming to me, complaining about the Housing Corporation , and I had to be very clear with them . . . and they can back it up if they are listening. I had to be very clear with them. If there is any area that is lenient, which is willing to work with you, it is the Hous ing Corporation. And I did say to them, you know, do not disparage th ese people in that area. Okay, I am going to move —
ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN
HOUSE VISITOR
The ChairmanChairmanCan I just interrupt one moment — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Oh, yes, sir.
The ChairmanChairman—to recognise in the Gallery the former Speaker of the H ouse [Honourable] Randolph Horton? It is nice to see you, sir. [Desk thumping] [Committee of Supply, Ministry of Public Works, debate continuing]
The ChairmanChairmanCarry on. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. So, again, I echo those sentiments and I am glad that the Minister did bring that up. They are fine people working there, trying to do a good job for Bermuda. If I can then go move on …
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And if we go over to page B-230, and I am just . . . in this particular . . . I am going to have to ask the Minister for some grace. When he was talking, I could just about hear him in some …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And if we go over to page B-230, and I am just . . . in this particular . . . I am going to have to ask the Minister for some grace. When he was talking, I could just about hear him in some of the words that he was saying. I am going to try to pick through the notes that I took because he did answer quite a few things here. And if there is a repeat, please forgive me for that, I was trying to listen intently as he moved through. Under Head 68, Parks, if we go down to . . . under Parks Maintenance 6803, so, if we look at 6803 and the unit number 78020 —
The ChairmanChairmanYes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —we see there Maint enance and Development. I just want to make sure . . . I am just checking my notes on what he had said here. So, you can see that between the original amount and the estimate there is a $40,000 difference. …
Yes.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —we see there Maint enance and Development. I just want to make sure . . . I am just checking my notes on what he had said here. So, you can see that between the original amount and the estimate there is a $40,000 difference. And considering, especially in Parks, that maintenance is a major, major part of what they do, I know that $40,000 actually goes a long way in . . . especially in a large part of the work that they do in trying to maintain so many different areas, I am just curious as to why we are $40,000 less there, understanding that a large part of the work the public sees openly, if he can explain that to us. I did not see any staff changes affecting this area, so it would be interesting to see what he has to say there. Now, right under that, if you look at unit number 78030, Eastern Parks —
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier:—and I found this interes ting, because there is an Eastern Parks and we know that there is a Western Parks. But if you look at the Eastern Parks it is less $31,000, and if you look at Western [Parks] it is plus $27,000. And I …
Mm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier:—and I found this interes ting, because there is an Eastern Parks and we know that there is a Western Parks. But if you look at the Eastern Parks it is less $31,000, and if you look at Western [Parks] it is plus $27,000. And I know this is a West End dude here, the Minister. I am not . . . is it because of Cup Match that they are getting more?
[Inaudible interjection and laughter ]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I am beginning to feel like the East End . . . Renee . . . is Renee here? Back me up here. Kim is here. That the East End is getting hit here and the West End is getting a spend of about $27,000. So, I will be looking at Cup Match time to see—
The ChairmanChairmanYou take an issue with that? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yeah, man, I am an East Ender. I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Also, I was curious in pointing those out, he did mention some work about Tulo Valley, so I did get an answer …
You take an issue with that?
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yeah, man, I am an East Ender. I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Also, I was curious in pointing those out, he did mention some work about Tulo Valley, so I did get an answer there. It was a bit odd, though, when he was reading through the numbers under Parks Maintenance and he seemed to be saying it was like a dollar off. I do not know if that was just a typo in the script that he had, but if you look at the estimate amounts, like Eastern Parks, he said $1.1 million and down to Tree Service $581,000 . . . maybe it is just a typo. It is not of any significance, but there was a dollar difference there. If I could go down to 78065, Botanical Gardens —
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —the original amount, of course, $1.481 [million] and then the estimate amount of $1.4 [million] even. For Botanical Gardens there is an $81,000 less amount there, if we can get an expl anation to that. Understanding that I was just at Botan ical Gardens yesterday …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —the original amount, of course, $1.481 [million] and then the estimate amount of $1.4 [million] even. For Botanical Gardens there is an $81,000 less amount there, if we can get an expl anation to that. Understanding that I was just at Botan ical Gardens yesterday to an award [ceremony] and, yes, I could see that it needed some more maint enance and work, what that had to entail. If we go down to unit 78100, the Railway Trail, the $320,000 . . . now, the Minis ter actually did answer that. And that was one of those areas where I was not sure exactly what was mentioned there. So, I am curious, is the $320,000 that is allocated here . . . there is no difference. Does that have to do with just Parks itself doing the maintenance, or does that i ncorporate any other private entity that might be wor king with them? And for that $320,000 is that all of the Railway Trail that is involved? If it is not, then what are we spending as far as assistance in this area for the Railway Trail with, maybe private landscapers or the likes? Continuing on under the General Summary, Administration, the Minister briefly mentioned . . . let me just look here . . . yes, he briefly mentioned A dministration and Planning. But I just wanted to make sure that I got that right, the $271,000 less, what that had to do with. Also, under Forts, the expansion to 6805, unit number 78080, Forts and Historical Sites. Now, I know that this area has been one of those areas that has always needed a lot of m aintenance. And he did mention a few things in his brief, but some of these forts and historical sites are in tremendous need of refurbishment. I am just curious as to whether or not there are plans in the future of overhauling some of 3438 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly these areas, like we are doing with some of the buil dings that we have, to really give them some attention in this area, thank you. If I go over then to, on Head 68, over to [page] B-231 under Subjective Analysis, and I think . . . I was thinking that maybe some of this had to do with the Administration and Planning, as I mentioned, the $271,000 because we do see, under Salaries, $204,000 less. And then under Professional Services, if you go down a little further here, the original amount was $300,000 and if we take a look at the estimate for this upcoming fiscal year [it is] $118,000. What is that di fference, $182,000? Who have we taken out? And do they believe that by taking out these professional ser-vices it is going to compromise some of their effectiveness, knowing that, understandably, we are under some constraints and we cannot fix everything? Under Revenue Source . . . if you look at unit 8801, Facilities. Although they do not do a whole lot here, it was interesting that we do have an increase of about $17,000, and beca use the numbers are extremely low percentagewise, it is high. What is Facil ities? Is that for, porta- potties? I was not quite sure what that is, under Revenue [Source], and the antic ipated increase that we see there from the original amount of $10,000 to $ 27,000. What exactly is that? Okay. If I could . . . again, no need to mention the employee numbers here. Under Performance Measures on page B -233, under business unit, Park Ranger Service, 78000. Again, I am on page B -233. Number two, the total number of special permits i ssued, percentage of special permit requests pr ocessed within three working days, one month for large events. If you look at the original amount, it is $575 and the target amount is about $650. So I was just curious as to what were they expecting coming up this year as far as . . . because of increased tourism. I am not really sure even if whether or not they get special permits, maybe it is for a wedding or something like that. The other question that I had was exactly what is a “special permit”? What makes it different from a regular permit? Obviously, it is a kind of event, and maybe I am trying to find out what are those kinds of events that make a special permit a special permit, so that the public would know the difference if they are looking to get a permit on Parks land. If you go down to business unit, Lifeguard Service, 78010, total number of preventative actions. If you look at the original amount, it is $6,900. If you look at the target outcome, it is substantially increased to $14,500. Now, the Minister mentioned that they were holding courses and the likes. I was not sure if that involved like CPR and first aid that the lifeguards were doing, so I was just trying to tie them in to these performance measures. It is a drastic inc rease, so what is that increase due to? What would the lif e-guards be doing as an increase? It is more than double. If you go down to business unit, Maintenance and Development, 78020 . . . it is kind of an odd question, but the first one is total number of toilets se rviced. I am assuming that it is . . . I do not know how many toilets we have in public areas. But I just found that number interesting that we have 4,530 services. I am assuming that most of that is done during the summertime. I will say that i t is a major challenge. And I know for sure that he is aware of the major challenge of keeping our public bathrooms neat and tidy. I do not know if we have made any [improv ements] there. There was also a challenge of even keeping them serviced, but it looks like we have reg ularised the servicing of these public toilets. Maybe the Minister can tell us a little more about how he is getting along with vandalism and the likes at these public bathrooms and how they are handling that. I can think of a few of the public areas that continue to be vandalised. And how is he making out with the management of that? And then number three, under the same bus iness unit, 78020. The number of roundabout displays replanted four times per year. I just wanted to say u nder this particular one, I was quite pleased because the roundabout at the end of the Causeway has been a challenge. It is just grass. And just up a little further on the Causeway, by the airport, you know, they have a nice rock garden there. It looks all nice. But at that junction in St. George’s, I’m going back to, maybe the Minister is giving the East End less than the West End.
[Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: But this year Cup Match is in Somerset, yet some work is happenin g there. I am not sure exactly what they are putting in there, but I do want to thank the Minister for the fact that we are ge tting something, some sort of a display there. I know being close to the water was one of those challenges. So I am looking forwar d to seeing what they finally come up with. It is shaping up like a star thus far, as I look at it. If we go over to page B -234, continuing under the Performance Measures, for Head 68, under Parks, I took note of the number of roadside verges, twice per m onth. That is really good to see. I just wanted to highlight that. I am grateful to see the target outcome is going to be higher there. But if I go down to Tree Service, 78035, the total number of trees felled. Now, there is a massive increase between the original and the target outcome. If you just bear with me, I just want go back over to Tree Service. So Tree Service has an increase in the overall budget of $15,000, on page B -230. And so I am assuming that this ties into this performance measure as well . But was it due to the fact that maybe
Bermuda House of Assembly one of our machines or our lifts was down, which is why they were not able to do as many as they would have liked. I do not think that this is the case because the history speaks to the fact that 77 is around about where we have sat. So, obviously, they want to do more work in this area. And it would be nice to see , because I do know that even after the hurricanes we still have stuff that needs to be cut down , whether that has to do with that. And again, also, in addi tion to that, number two under that same unit, number of trees pruned. And there is even a greater difference between the original amount of 45 and the target outcome of 120. What exactly was happening? What has led to this drastic increase that they feel confident it can be done with such an increase? Under business unit, Administration, on the same page, B -234, Administration and Planning, 78050, the very first item is total number of special permits issued for Botanical Gardens and the Arbor etum. Now, if you look at the original forecast, Mr. Chairman, you will see 100 per cent. But if you look at the target outcome, it is 21,000 per cent. So this is the total number of special permits issues for Botanical Gardens. [I was] just curious as to what that is. Maybe it is a typo, I do not know.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: It’s a typo? Oh, okay. Thank you. Maybe it is 210 per cent then?
[Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: You can let us know what it should be. If you go down to number 5, Total number of permitted commercial activities per year, you see 5. What are those kinds of commercial activities we are talking about that are permitted there? The original amount is 5, which historically may make sense, but we are forecasting 22. Maybe they can tell us what kind of events they are already aware of that are com-ing up so that the public knows that in these park ar eas we have things going on. Mr. Chairman, if you go over to page B -235, continuing under Parks, with Performance Measures, under business unit Park Improvement, 75101, second item, the total number of new benches installed, I will say this: I am pleasantly encouraged by the fact that I do actually see benches now [at the] bus stops. I do not know if that was by design. If they should not be there, I am letting you know that I do see Public Works benches [at the] the bus stops, but —
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberIn the East End? [Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: But if that is by design, it is good to see. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, they have been r equested. So it would be good to hear about that. But it is kind of encouraging to see that, …
In the East End?
[Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: But if that is by design, it is good to see. [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, they have been r equested. So it would be good to hear about that. But it is kind of encouraging to see that, because we do have seniors who are catching the bus more frequently, especially Honourable Member Kim Swan from constituency 2. You know, he wants to have that bench at that bus stop. So, kudos to that; it is very pleasant to see. Under business unit Botanical Gardens, 78065, total number of flower beds displayed inside the parameter per year, [there is a] drastic reduction there. Is that potentially due to the fact that getting flowers grown and the likes, has been a challenge, and so we do not have the ceilings that we want to accommodate the historical targets of 74? Knowing also that the botanical gardens are certainly a place where the public like to go for many different occ asions, whether it is permitted or not, but just to go through and enjoy, are we having a challenge with flowers? So that the public is aware, there might not be as many in this upcoming year. All right, Mr. Chairman, I want to move on over to Public Lands and Buildings, which is Head 81. And if you take a look at the general summary [there is] a spend of $19.919 million for the estimate in comparison to the original amount of $19.472 milli on, which is a difference of $447,000, in total. As I was going through and listening to the Minister, if we take a look at . . . under Estates . . . sorry, let me just make sure I got that right. Oh, before I get to that, sorry. [I have a] note here, base d on a comment that he made, under business unit 8101, on the same page B -236, Buildings, Service Management, he mentioned that certainly we have ageing facilities. And these ageing facilities certainly need the maintenance requirements going forward. Understanding the maintenance needs of these buildings, I can see that we have a [decrease] of about $10,000 under Buildings. That might not be too much. I would have thought that with the issues of asbestos coming up and mould and the likes, that we might be spending more under Lands and Buildings when it comes to service maintenance and management. So I would like to hear a little bit more about how the Minister believes that they will be able to manage going into this next new year with the increasing issues of mould and asbestos coming up, how they plan on managing this through the upcoming year. If I can then move down to . . . I am sorry, while we are talking about that, in a statement the Minister made prior, he talked about the T. N. Tatem building there. It would be nice to hear, just to get an update on where they are with that. I know that they 3440 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly have had teams go up to take a look at it because we are looking to rent it out and the likes. Based on their inspections, what have they found thus far since he made the statement about the area, and how much work does he think it is going to take to get it up to par to rent out? If I could then go down to Estates, 8102, and looking at Proper ty Assessment Management, 91004, the Minister did mention . . . he ga ve an answer to the increase of the $354,000, so I want to thank him for that, in relation to cost expenses. He also mentioned 91005, under Estates, Insurance. And this had to do with adjustment in premiums. I know that the team is always working really diligently in trying to get these insurance premiums down. I am curious as to what they are finding in their negotiations, whether there is a market out there, whether or not the insurance companies are finding it favourable to negotiate with Government in getting some of these fees down, knowing the stellar history that Government has with insurance and its pa yments. So, good luck with that as well. He did give an answer to this and the adjus tments there and why he saw, under that Head, there was going to be at least a $446,000 increase due to insurance and cost expenses. If we go over to page B -237 and we get to the subjective analysis and current account estimates under Head 81, yes, the two highlighted areas, the Mi nister did give mention to this. What I was not sure of was under Energy, further on down under the ex-penditure there. I just was not quite sure; I think he said that electricity has gone up. I believe that is what he said. I was racing trying to get it down. But if that is the case, I am curi ous as to . . . that is . . . maybe in the grand scheme of things it is not that much. But the $300,000 increase was rather interesting. Can he confirm if that was due to the increased rate? I think we probably need to do a better job pushing them, and I should not say “better” job, but I am sure the Minister feels no way about pressing them at all, on getting a better rate. Okay . . . just bear with me a minute, Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanOkay. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: [I am looking at] my different notes here.
The ChairmanChairmanWhile you are doing that I will just remind the listening audience that we are still in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2020/21. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I also did . . . …
While you are doing that I will just remind the listening audience that we are still in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2020/21.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I also did . . . this is one area that I did look at, the employee numbers. The Minister did give an explanation to these areas, so I want to thank him for that. I was just going through my notes. If we could go to the Per formance Measures , then.
The ChairmanChairmanWhich page are we going to? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: We are going to page B - 328.
The ChairmanChairmanYes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Under Head 81.
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Public Lands and Buil dings, under business units 91002 through to 91003, the second item there, number of government -owned facilities to be sealed removing the potential of water ingress, future mould and mildew. I would like to hear a little more [about that]. The …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Public Lands and Buil dings, under business units 91002 through to 91003, the second item there, number of government -owned facilities to be sealed removing the potential of water ingress, future mould and mildew. I would like to hear a little more [about that]. The numbers have not changed, but as I mentioned already, this is a major, major challenge. And I know that in the House the Minister has spoken to it several times, the fact that this largely has to do with maintenance issues and those who are in the buil dings clearly not being as diligent as they can be with opening windows and the likes. He has even been colourful in naming it “the national flower.” I think he said.
The ChairmanChairmanYes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I think it was the n ational flower. But mould continues to be a challenge in Bermuda. It is something that we have lived with forever. But it does become a challenge when the public is screaming out and we are trying to remediate …
Yes.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I think it was the n ational flower. But mould continues to be a challenge in Bermuda. It is something that we have lived with forever. But it does become a challenge when the public is screaming out and we are trying to remediate these kinds of issues. I would like to know a little more. When it says the num ber of government -owned facilities to be sealed, removing the potential for this, it looks like preventative maintenance. It would be nice to hear about what that preventative maintenance is in detail as to what we are doing. And does that . . . of course, it includes the schools as well, not just the gover nment buildings. There were also some new measures. I must say it was good to see some of these new measures creeping up. It does point to the fact, it tells the story that change is happening. When you start seeing these kinds of new measurements [it shows] people are working diligently. If we go down to business unit 91004 through 91006, the second item says, number of government departments with occupancy agreements for their acBermuda House of Assembly commodation in government premises. And then following after that, the number of expired commercial and residential leases out, reviewed and renewed, or re-let. So I see the logic in these, I actually do. So it is good to see that we have new measures there. If the Minister wa nts to expound on this here, as to what they were thinking, then fine. I get it, but maybe the public may not. But I do understand that, especially with the challenges that we are having. So, again, k udos to those new measurements. If you can give me just minute to just go back to the front.
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I knew I had a note here. In talking about public lands and buildings, I know that there were at one time discussions about centralising the civil service, all the different depar tments. [It would] be difficult with Parks, per se, but with some …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I knew I had a note here. In talking about public lands and buildings, I know that there were at one time discussions about centralising the civil service, all the different depar tments. [It would] be difficult with Parks, per se, but with some of the major departments, centralising them so that when Bermudians are looking for the assi stance of government, they are not having to go all over the place in different ar eas, catch a bus from one area to another, and then be told that they have to go down to somewhere else and then have to walk to the other side of town. Is there still a plan in place, or have we given up on centralising most of the departments within, I guess, the City of Hamilton, centralising civil service to that effect? Where are we with those plans and whether or not they have been scrapped? So thank you, Mr. Chairman, for that. I will move on over to another big Head, Head 82, Works and Engineering, which also hires a substantial number of employees within it. Of course, they do an array of different works, to the benefit of Bermuda. So I will go to page B -240. The Minister certainly had quite a few notes for me to take from this particular Ministry . So I will start. I take note that under 8201, unit 92001, Electrical and Mechanical Engineering. He did mention that there was a reduction in staffing here and that also there was a reduction in training. I am curious, understanding of some of the challenges that we have with mould and all these di fferent things, what was the reasoning behind reducing the number of staff here? Is it just merely a cost measure and it is not going to affect the overall pr ocess? But understanding that this is a very integral part of what Works and Engineering is doing, why it was felt that they needed to reduce staffing and also training in this area? If you take a look of the overall total, under Engineering, you can see that the original amount is $1.787 million and the es timate for this u pcoming year of $1.683 million, which is a $104,000 difference. Under Highways, 8202, if we go down, I did have a question under Road Maintenance. I was cur i-ous. He mentioned several things in Road Maint enance, but I was not sure. Under th is particular area, Road Maintenance, I am assuming that potholes are a part of that area. The reason I am bringing up the challenge of potholes, I noticed that . . . was it yeste rday that I was coming up? A lot of potholes were actually filled. I have als o heard from the public, complaining, Oh, well, we have a truck with three or four people on it and they are trying to fill one small pot-hole. Not understanding the whole of the operation, what everyone is doing. There was some talk about a new process at one time for filling potholes which was more perm anent. So, once we fill a pothole rain comes next month and that kind of eats it up, and we have got the same pothole exposed. They were looking at some composite that is mixed. I do not know if they are aw are of that, but there was talk about some composite plastic. I don’t know. It was a composite material mixed with the asphalt so that it adheres to the other asphalt and seeps into it, holding everything much tighter, where the pothole is least likely to come back up again within a few months. With technology there are so many things out there. I am hoping that they are exploring some of these areas. I mean, my goodness, road works has [advanced] to the point where it filled with microchips and the likes, where it can track the computerised cars and the likes. So I am curious as to whether or not we are still moving in that direction with the po tholes. It would save a whole lot of maintenance, know ing that this technology already exists and it i nvolves rec yclable material, which is extremely cost - effective.
The ChairmanChairmanMember, I do not want to break your flow, but you do realise you have about an hour. You have raised a lot of questions so I just want to be sure— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Cra ig Cannonier: Lord have mercy. Okay. Let me move along here. Yes, yes.
The ChairmanChairmanIf you want the answers to your — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: What? Good Lord! Thank you for that. I did not realise the time had gone by so quickly. All right, I will m ove down to 8203, Waste Management. We did get some good answers coming from the …
If you want the answers to your —
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: What? Good Lord! Thank you for that. I did not realise the time had gone by so quickly. All right, I will m ove down to 8203, Waste Management. We did get some good answers coming from the Minister here. And he mentioned about rec ycling. I just wanted to take note of that. Under Rec ycling, I am really, really encouraged that the Minister has taken this bold step to move Government along in leading the way. Certainly it is the right move so I give kudos to that. I am going to move along here. 3442 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly If we go on over to the General Summary, on page B -241, under Head 82, I guess I was a bit concerned about Water and Sewage. This is an area where I know that government receives revenue. But yet you will see here at the summary of it, the original amount of $29,647,000 to the estimate amount of $29,299,000 there is a difference of about $350,000, $348,000. And if you look there— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: For the whole department? Got you. Thanks. Thank you for that. Okay. Yes, because I know this is an ever -ongoing process with water and expanding and improving its footprint. I am curious as to whether or not the Mini stry is looking to improve its footprint in this area as well. So I would like to get an answer to that. I will not go much into the subjective analysis. I was pretty clear on most of it. We talked about the energy. He spoke to that. H e spoke to maintenance as well. I put a tick there; I did not write the answer down but for professional services, I think you a nswered that as well. I will go on over to Performance Measures. How much time did you say we had left?
The ChairmanChairmanIt is d ue to end at 5:44. You have an hour and . . . [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Hour and ten minutes? He is sharp. He can get through to the end; he can get through them. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: You have some …
It is d ue to end at 5:44. You have an hour and . . .
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Hour and ten minutes? He is sharp. He can get through to the end; he can get through them.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: You have some questions as well? Okay. I will leave the Performance Measures for now, under Head 82. If we have time, I will come back to those. I will move on over to Head 97, Land Title Registration. I was happy to hear that he said that Revenue, the fees —
The Ch airman: Page B -427.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I’m sorry, p age B -427, under Revenue Summaries. The fees will remain the same. Again, I just give accolades to these guys; they do a fantastic job as well. So, I echo the sentiments of the Minister. So, if I c ould then, Mr. Chairman, as I mentioned I would like to go on over to Capital Develop-ment and we will go through all of the departments there, with the few questions that I do have. And then I will allow my colleagues to be able to ask some questions as we ll. (My goodness, I cannot believe that the time has gone.) Under Capital Development, page C -6, unit 75306, Golf Courses Improvement, I was curious as to whether or not that involved . . . I am assuming these are improvements for both golf courses. Maybe if we could get a breakdown of the amount that goes to one as opposed to the other: Port Royal, Ocean View. And whether or not this has to do with tournament, these improvements, or is this just normal golf course improvements through the course of time t hat we are looking at, or whether it has to do with tournament. Under Bermuda Housing Corporation, I see the Homeless Shelter there. I was just curious as to whether or not he was aware of the kind of shelters that they will be putting up there. Park Impr ovements, 75101. I am aware that this is normally a rolling amount with the classification of an “E.” What are some these park improvements that we are looking at? What are some of these smaller projects that we are looking at? If you go down to unit 75234, Parks Maint enance Yard Facility, I was curious as to whether or not they have determined on a permanent location for the maintenance yard. I know that was in question based on the issues at Botanical Gardens and they were temporarily moved over to Pembr oke, [to the] back of Pembroke. So, are we looking at any facilities where we may be moving them? What are the plans going forward? Under unit 75112, Public Lands and Buildings, it was mentioned [about] the major building upgrades, with a classification of an RA. I was just curious as to how many and which different buildings we are look-ing to upgrade. I do know that there has been some work at . . . is it Tudor Hill? I think I saw some work going on up at Tudor Hill as well. How extensive are these upgrades that we are looking to do? If we go down to 75326, under Sandys 360, the classification of “E.” We understand that. Is this the monies to pay for the property, finally? I am assuming that this is what that is. Could I just get confirmation on that? Another classification of Road Works, 75042. Of course, this is always a popular topic. We are dou-bling there. He did give an answer. I recall him giving an answer to that. So I am grateful this has to do with the cabling, working with BELCO on that. Under Water Projects, 75044, I also recognise that he gave answers to that. Sorry, I am going fast now. (I did not realise the time had gone by so quickly.) Unit 75061, with this classification of a “D” the $530,000 does not seem like a lot of spend for such a large project. I understand that we are expanding the sewage programme throughout the greater [area] of St. George’s. I do not know if that includes . . . if it just includes BLDC that this includes, or does it include St. David’s as well as
Bermuda House of Assembly a part of the parish? I am assuming that is what he is saying. So what exactly do we believe we are going to accomplish with this upcoming year with only a spend of $530,000 for such an extensive programme? I do know that people are here looking at it. It would be good he ar a little more about that. He already mentioned under unit 57064, A sbestos Disposal. I am assuming that a large part of that spend has to do with getting rid of the containers and the likes, full of the asbestos. Under unit 57096, Swing Bridge, the old Swing Bridge is getting moved. It is great to see; fantastic. I know the fishermen are not going to be too happy, but it is good to see that. I was not sure where this was accounted for, whether it was under 75096 or 75116, this work that is being done. Structural refurbishment of bridges, 75116. It appears we might have spent a little more than we anticipated here. I am just curious, he did mention Watford Bridge, and a large part of that had to do with Watford Bridge. What other challenges are we having as with our ageing bridges and facilities? The last two and I can sit down and let some other colleagues [ask questions]. Quarry refurbis hments, he mentioned. He did speak to that. And Tynes Bay [ Waste Treatment Facility ], he did speak to that. So thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, I will sit down.
The ChairmanChairmanAre there any other speakers? I recognise the Honourable Member GordonPamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just have a couple of questions that I wonder if the Minister could address. One is to start on the Ministry of Public Works, Headquarters. This is …
Are there any other speakers? I recognise the Honourable Member GordonPamplin.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just have a couple of questions that I wonder if the Minister could address. One is to start on the Ministry of Public Works, Headquarters. This is on page B -220. The business unit is 46112, in respect of Central Filing. The Minister indicated that this Head handled the archiving and the conve yance of government documents for storage and archiving and the like. And my question is, What is the average demand for retrieval and return of boxes to the Central Filing? And is there any indication or is there any intent for us to be able put those doc uments, to the extent possible, on an electronic medium so that we do not have to have physical boxes and pay for space? I am just wondering if that is something in the plan going forward. Under 46030, under Finance Management, the Minister indicated about his efforts with respect to debt collection, and I wondered if we have some kind of aged analysis as to where we are in terms of the debt. On page B -221, on Salaries, the Minister did mention, I thought he said that . . . this is under Sal aries, Subjec t Analysis for Salaries, page B -221, at the top of the page. I thought he indicated that the neg a-tive of 176 had something to do with . . . I think he said that the PS was now under Cabinet . . .
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin : Okay. All PSs have moved to Cabinet. So, the question now begs, if we have already spent in 2019/20, more than we . . . I’m sorry, we have spent a little less than we budgeted for, but it is more, we have already spent more than we are estimating for aft er that transfer out. So we had a revised in 2019/20 of 2502, in respect, and we are saying 2020/21 we are only going to spend 2454, but that 176 reduction was against the original est imate from the prior year. So I just wondered if there was a quick explanation in respect of that. On page B -227, with respect to Land Valu ation, amending the list . . . this is business unit 59080, on Valuation, amending the list within 20 working days. They are looking at a targeted outcome of 65 per cent, which seems a lit tle low for the efficiency which happens in that department. I just wondered if there was any reason why we are setting the target quite that low. And should we be looking at a slightly higher, or slightly better, turnaround on that? On page [B -]237 in r espect of Public Lands and Buildings, in respect of insurance. The Minister has indicated, notwithstanding that he did explain that there were some differences in premium and the like, but the Minister indicated that there would be $6,840,000 on insurance. We have already spent an actual in 2019/20 of $8,053,000, which is higher, so that obviously would have something to do with the adjustment of premium within the current year. So I understand that. But the question that I have is, given the positive claim s experience that the government has with insurance, are we looking at the possibility of increasing our self -insured retention so that we do not have to pay quite as much in premiums? I did know that earlier on in the Budget D ebate, I believe the Ministe r indicated something to the effect that they are looking at setting up a captive. It would be interesting to hear how that process is going to develop. I want to go to Capital, on page C -7. And that is on business unit 75293, with respect to Canal O perations, Pembroke Canal. He has indicated that there is nothing that is being put in for this year. The idea being that there were some external bodies who were working along with Government, and I am just wondering how progressed those talks are, because th e problems that exist in that area that are impacted by that Pembroke Canal are still severe. I just wondered how quickly we are likely to get some kind of resol ution with these external partners to be able to see some relief for the businesses especially that live and operate in that area. Dangerous Walls and Cuts, 75258, on page C-7. My question is, There is $100,000 set aside, but 3444 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly over on the page C -6, the stabilising roadside rock cut, 75142, where there is zero, have these two bus iness units been merged so that the stabilising–– and the $100,000, the dangerous walls and rock cuts, are merged together? I am just curious whether . . . I think there are still some unstable areas. Quarry Refurbishments, 75264. The Minister had indicated that they had actu ally gotten two of the units that were transferred from Morgan’s Point which were from the Artemis building that they used to help construct two extra buildings (I think he said) down at the quarry. My question is, Was there a cost that the Government had to pay to Morgan’s Point or was that just part of the trade off in terms of what we have done for Morgan’s Point? Did we have to pay anything for those buildings that were transferred down from Morgan’s Point? On page C -6, 75064, in respect of Asbestos Disposal, $1.750 million. What was interesting with that is that the Minister had indicated that we have to repack some of the containers in which asbestos is now being stored. I think we know that the containers that were used have rusted out over time and obv iously they have to be repacked and that is understandable. But what the Minister said piqued my ears and that is that we have repack it for shipping of some of it to the US for disposal. I am just wondering whether we have additional insurance in relat ion to that because it is known that asbestos, especially when it is transported into the United States, that it actually has . . . it is always deemed, under the Occ upational Safety and Health Act in the US, to belong to the generator. So I am just wonder ing if we have any additional insurance, if we are taking our asbestos and sending it off to the United States, what protections do we have in order to ensure, if somewhere down the road there are claims , that we have looked into that particular area? Swing Bridge, 75096—
[Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman]
The ChairmanChairmanWhat page? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: This is on page C - 6. [It is] 75096. It is on the left- hand side of the page, and that is the Swing Bridge Refurbishment. The question t hat I have is, Have there been effective lead abatement on the structures …
What page?
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: This is on page C - 6. [It is] 75096. It is on the left- hand side of the page, and that is the Swing Bridge Refurbishment. The question t hat I have is, Have there been effective lead abatement on the structures that are there with the swing bridge? Because I know under normal circu mstances, we would be doing sandblasting for lead-contaminated steel, and I am wondering whether those processes have been carried out as yet. And then I had one other question and that is on page . . . I go back to the Expenditure, page B -247, and that is under Subjective Analysis of Salaries. U nder Land Title Registration, for 2019/20, we had est imated for $956,000, and we have gone up by $112,000 in this current year for 2020/21. However, for 2019/20, we have only actually expended $596,000, so there is quite a differential between what we have done, what we anticipate to be the new expenditure in relation—
The ChairmanChairmanOn page B? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: This is on page B - 247, Subjective Analysis under Salaries. So the difference between . . . we have only spent $596,000, and this is the best estimate as to what we are going to spend given . . . you …
On page B?
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: This is on page B - 247, Subjective Analysis under Salaries. So the difference between . . . we have only spent $596,000, and this is the best estimate as to what we are going to spend given . . . you know, up to March 31. And I am just wondering what the differential is between that number and whether the 1068 is perhaps a little bit too much, that we may have set aside. And the final question I have, very quickly, is on Professional Services. We had an estimate of, in 2019/20, of $87,000 and in 2020/21 we have $86,000. So there is only $1,000 difference. But in the actual revised, what we would expect, the 2019/20 to ult imately get up to is $460,000 and I am just wondering if there could be some explanation as to where that differential is between what we initially anticipated that we would spend and the $460,000 that we have act ually spent already, or that we anticipate to be the new revised budget up to date. Those are my substantive questions. I have a couple more, but I can wait for some responses.
The ChairmanChairmanAre there any further speakers? Minister.
The ChairmanChairmanIt is goo d to be seen, cousin. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchOkay. I am going to go, I believe, in the order in which they came, even though I have duplicate answers from my people over there. Hopefully, they are not in conflict, otherwise somebody wi ll be in trouble. Any anticipation of selling buildings? Is there a process in place …
Okay. I am going to go, I believe, in the order in which they came, even though I have duplicate answers from my people over there. Hopefully, they are not in conflict, otherwise somebody wi ll be in trouble. Any anticipation of selling buildings? Is there a process in place of which buildings are for sale and how does one go about obtaining information on the sales? The answer: First we would have to be sati sfied that the building is not needed for public services and can be considered surplus to requirements. [Second] they would be put out for public tender for r equest for proposals to lease or sell, depending on the circumstances. And third, contact the chief surveyor with expressions of interest.
Bermuda House of Assembly Of course, they would have missed what I said this morning, which is, follow none of those rules. What I would say is that, particularly, in the case of vacant and derelict buildings, people should make . . . there is not going to be a whole lot of interest. And they usually, in the four cases that we have currently before us, these are people who have a special interest in a certain building. One of which is on Parsons Road, that they just found a dead body in it. I do not know why he wants to buy it, but if he wants to rehabilitate it then we are going to entertain that and come to some arrangement that he can do so. And so I i nvite people to do that rather than wait for tender. And I will give a more practical example b ecause the level of my frustration with this bureaucracy is beyond 200 per cent. We have been trying to have . . . I am sure there are six, seven former Ministers of Public Works in this House, serving, including me. And I can guarantee you that if I took them all to the quarry tom orrow, they would find vehicles down there that have been there before they came. And we have been trying to have an auction for six months. I am not going to wait another six weeks. Anyway, I will come down off my bully pulpit. Hurricane was under 46998 and now showing 46999. Was the cost of $988,000 related to Humberto. Where was the hurricane relief? The account is 46998. The relief is netted off against the account and the $988,000 is the operating cost of Humberto not covered by insurance. Explain t he increase in $900,000 . . . this must be your third . . . I do not know what this was. You know what this was, Mr. Cannonier? It is probably your second or third question, because they do not say where this was. An increase in $900,000. Selling buildings . . . Okay, maybe this was in relation to Tynes Bay. When I give you the answer, maybe it will make some sense. The answer is that it is an increase of revenue from charging back BELCO from Tynes Bay electricity. Okay. Under 3612, the question was, Is t his an u pgrade? In fact, the new radio system that we are moving toward gives us a cost savings. And it should not be a reduction in staff in this post. Architect and Design, $36,000. This is less the salary of recharges, expense for the chief architect who is no longer there. And the irony in this is that . . . and I might not get this quite right, but I will get the principle. I believe the chief architect is paid and established under the Office of Project Management and Procurement and the architects are established under Public Works. Go figure. You got that on your list to fix, PS? Because I do not want to stand here next year talking this foolishness. Performance Management, page B -223, 4611, in relation to the coronavirus. I think it was about . . . the Ministry of Health is leading on this. We are working with them along with all the other mini s-tries as a team together which meets, I think, every day, headed by the Health Department. And they bring in other resources as and how they need. Our current involvement at the moment is coming up with identifying locations for people to go to, should we have an outbreak. Career Outreach: What is the Ministry doing in this area? This actually is being headed by the HR Department in the Ministry. We have a young lady who . . . we have a second young lady who is respo nsible for HR, but has a keen interest in helping young people and doing outreach. So she is actually leading on this, with the support of us in the Ministry. Difficult -to-fill positions, wha t is the Ministry doing? The Ministry is identifying all hard- to-fill posts via the HR section and developing strategies to get persons interested via the school career fairs that I mentioned and working with outreach to various high schools in the country . Derelict buildings in relation to BIY. I have answered that. In relation to . . . there is no hotline. They just write to the Ministry, if there is an interest. Housing Corporation and BLDC, how are they involved? The answer to that is that it is not going as smoothly as I would like. It is not going as smoothly as most of the people would like, working in both entities. But they have merged the HR function and the IT functions. The IT functions were fairly easy to merge because a decade ago (well, may be a little longer than that now) when there was some discussion about merging the three entities previously, all of them needed to have new IT. So they all purchased the same systems. And so the ability to merge IT now is very easy. The fact that it is not going as smoothly as we like, I think that we have all decided and agreed that we need professional advice. And so we shall shortly be hiring Performance Solutions to help us in that r egard, in terms in coming up with how it is that we can accelerate this process and effect some more cost savings. So at the moment, the only posts that have been subsumed by the BHC and BLDC are the CEO’s post, so you have a dual -headed general manager and CEO at BHC, and a dual -headed chief financial officer at BHC. Head 68, Parks, Maintenance, page B -230, 78020, a $40,000 difference. Eastern parks versus western parks. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI can confirm that there is no bias in this, Mr. Chairman, between the West and the East. I accept all the Parks workers as my children, so except for the week of Cup Match, they belong to me. But essentially, the answer to this is going to be the …
I can confirm that there is no bias in this, Mr. Chairman, between the West and the East. I accept all the Parks workers as my children, so except for the week of Cup Match, they belong to me. But essentially, the answer to this is going to be the answer to several other questions where there have been cuts in funding. In order for us to meet our 3446 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly cash limits we made a conscious decision to remove funding from funded posts in departments. So that is what that is. I will indicate as I go on in other areas that in some cases that is the case as well. Botanical Gardens, decrease, why? We r emoved funding as a result of a vacant post. The same applies for Head 68, Admin. Are there plans for fort development? Part of Parks overall strategy will be to look at forts in consul-tation with the environment and natural resource team. I do also know that we are having somewhat of a battle with those people in the east because the World Heritage site designation covers forts and fort ifications throughout the entire country. It is the original certification. And there is some resistance from those people who you are down ther e squatting with, Mr. Chairman, about expanding it.
[Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchBut I think they should look on the bright side. The ability to get funding for the whole country is probably greater than just focusing in on St. George’s. That is what I will say. And ne ither one of them are here. I am sure they will get the …
But I think they should look on the bright side. The ability to get funding for the whole country is probably greater than just focusing in on St. George’s. That is what I will say. And ne ither one of them are here. I am sure they will get the word. Head 49, 227, Performance Measures, Objections of Proposals. Why are we doing this? The rec-ommendation by the Management Services review of performance measures was objections form an int egral part of the department’s maintenance of the list work . . . of the [can’t read it] something work, and have not been reported previously. Special permits at Botanical Gardens, stated at 2100 per cent. This is a typo. Actually, the percentage increase was 210 per cent. Head 68, Performance Measures, 234, why the increase in commercial activities per year? More concessions are planned for 2020/21. Are we still looking to centralise government offices? Why the reduction in electrical/mechanical section? The answer there is, the first step in this pr ocess is to move toward space standards. The removal of the requirement for everybody and their cat to have an office, and so there is still some resistance to that, I will state. Qu ite naturally. But when I suggest to folks who have the courage to mention it to me, Have I seen the research? I suggest to them that I will organise a tour to PwC and maybe one of the other private firms around the country, which is where we went to get o ur ideas from in the first place. And so, I wanted to give some statistics. And these are statistics, which are probably decades old and have gradually increased over the years. But I think that both successive governments have recognised and acknowledged the fact that as long as you enter into an arrangement to make some payment on your arrears, then nobody is going to come look for you. And when you neglect to do that, everybody is going to look for you. So these are statistics from the January board meeting, and these are for the 30 th of November 2019 and the 31st of December. And so, for bad debts, and by that we mean . . . I am not sure what that means other than . . . I only have an explanation for 144 of the 370 people who are identified, some of whom r eside outside of Bermuda at the Credit Association, unemployed, blah, blah, blah, Bermuda Debt Collection or Bermuda Credit Association. And so, they will not come off because if you win the lottery, we will come looking for you first. And so, there are 373 pe ople in that category as of the 31 st December to the tune of $2.9 million. And then for rental arrears, there are another 365 people at $2.3 million. And so, what I want folks to understand is that if . . . and these arrangements you enter into as an individual family, there is no set schedule of what you must pay. And so, as long as you are meeting that commitment, nobody is going to trouble with you. B ecause whilst there is some pressure . . . and I always get a lecture about arrears and what we should be doing about them. We also have to recognise that we are not in a commercial enterprise and that we are a government that has compassion for people who are doing the best that they possibly can. And so, you cannot beat them down. I have no problem s haring those statistics, but I want people to know that as soon as you step out of line and try and abuse the system, we are going to come after you with all guns blazing. Okay, Mr. Chairman, I am going to . . . are there any more questions?
The ChairmanChairmanThe Chair recognises the Honourable Member Ms. Gordon- Pamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I wonder if the Minister, in reference to page C -6 on the Homeless Shelter under business unit 75320 . . . I know my Honourable Leader did ask a …
The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Ms. Gordon- Pamplin.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I wonder if the Minister, in reference to page C -6 on the Homeless Shelter under business unit 75320 . . . I know my Honourable Leader did ask a question concerning it, but there is a mi llion dollars being set aside. And the question that I have is: This is for some r enovations for the existing homeless shelter at North Street. Have they given up on an alternative site that we looked at, in terms of Bishop Spencer, that your government looked at, our government looked at? I am just wondering whether we have given up on that and whether we are just g oing to go with fixing up the North Street facility.
Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: The short answer is that the Salvation Army declined to go to the Bishop Spencer because they did not think that they could financially maint ain and sustain it. And so, what we then set about doing was a structural assessment of the facility at North Street. And it is not as bad as it would appear, if it receives the support of government going forward to address some of the challenges that they face. And so, we have been having discussions within government . . . because it is not just Public Works, it is the Ministry of Health, and I do not know where the National Drug Commission resides now, but wherever they are, they provide funding for the drug treatment programme. So, what we have done—and you will hear from them —is [increase] the contr ibutions to the Salvation Army in order to be able to support their efforts there. Over the last, I think it is fair to say, probably a year, maybe a litt le bit longer than that, if you have been by the North Street centre you will see first the Women’s Shelter, which is the one closest to North Street. That went from being a dilapidated, run- down, old piece of something to having been completely r efurbished. It is now painted pink and the innards of it have been completely refurbished and the women are now quite happy. Subsequent to that —and this was in a public/private partnership between the government and some private interests who are friends of the Salvation Army —the Men’s Shelter . . . half of that buil ding was condemned. And so, that is being removed and we are sourcing another space. But the part that remains is being refurbished. And if you have been down on North Street recently, you will see the b uilding that is multi -coloured. That is being renovated as we speak. And so this million dollars in Public Works is to provide them with ongoing support to make sure that the facility remains in pristine condition. The next phase— and probably the last phase, I think —is the main administration building and the kitchen. We believe that this is sound, that word is not yet in, but we have done the research in terms of sourcing units from various entities should we need to replace them. And so, the commitment f rom the government is to support the Salvation Army in its work there in every which way that we can. And we are, in this budget, meeting the financial commitment that we have made and agreed with them.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, you want to move your Heads.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, you want to move your Heads, it is 5:40. I am sorry, it is five . . . you have got — Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: I have got three more minutes.
The ChairmanChairmanI don’t want to cut you short. The clock down the back, it moves
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchOh, you can’t see that far? Okay. Mr. Chairman, I end my presentation on this Ministry of Public Works Heads by quoting the motto of the Ministry, Business as usual won’t do . And I said that earlier. In my opinion (and this is mine, so . . .) it …
Oh, you can’t see that far? Okay. Mr. Chairman, I end my presentation on this Ministry of Public Works Heads by quoting the motto of the Ministry, Business as usual won’t do . And I said that earlier. In my opinion (and this is mine, so . . .) it would be fair to say that [motto] c ould apply to the government generally, and specifically to the nature of this budget process. Mr. Chairman, you would know that I have done this just a few times before. And I would venture to say that all six former Ministers of Public Works, including yourself, currently sitting in this House would find a lot of what was in the Public Works brief very familiar.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe system is broken. It is old. It is archaic. It is disjointed. It is confusing and frustr ating to both the Government and the Oppos ition. It was designed for a long time ago, Mr. Chai rman. Fifty -six hours is too long . . . a time when …
The system is broken. It is old. It is archaic. It is disjointed. It is confusing and frustr ating to both the Government and the Oppos ition. It was designed for a long time ago, Mr. Chai rman. Fifty -six hours is too long . . . a time when the passage of information was via donkey, not fibre optic cable.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe only people pr esent in the House are the Minister, generally, and the Shadow . . . we have got a few more now. So, the i nformation is not shared with all Members and the learning process is made a nonsense of. This year we used zero- based …
The only people pr esent in the House are the Minister, generally, and the Shadow . . . we have got a few more now. So, the i nformation is not shared with all Members and the learning process is made a nonsense of. This year we used zero- based budgeting —the process, on the face of it, sounds like a good practice. Unfortunately, in my opinion only, every time this pr ocess has been used the process has started from a false premise. Even though everyone will agree at the outset that everything should be up for cutting or consideration or debate, it is always started, though, with some sacred cows. Now, there should only be one sacred cow and that is Salaries. Everything else should be up for consideration. It is not!
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. 3448 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: The process is a nonsense.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI am probably going to even get a flogging for this, but what else . . . you know, go talk to Alice. [Desk thumping]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchBut, Mr. Cha irman, my point is . . . my point is that we could do so much better. We could do so much better for both sides. We could do so much better for the people of this country who do not have time to listen to Burch …
But, Mr. Cha irman, my point is . . . my point is that we could do so much better. We could do so much better for both sides. We could do so much better for the people of this country who do not have time to listen to Burch talk for three and a half hours and the Oppos ition ask questions that they do not . . . that I am not going to get an o pportunity to listen to. We could do a better —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch—process of this. And I would invite the Minister of Finance (in his absence I am sure somebody has called him by now), to consi der, in consultation with the Shadow Finance Minister, doing something different that actually makes sense to those people and these people, and those people and …
—process of this. And I would invite the Minister of Finance (in his absence I am sure somebody has called him by now), to consi der, in consultation with the Shadow Finance Minister, doing something different that actually makes sense to those people and these people, and those people and those people out there. This process could be far better and far more beneficial for the people of this country, Mr. Chairman.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchAnd so, with that, with those comments on my limit, I move the following Heads: 36, Ministry of Public Works Headquarters; 49, Land Valuation; 53, Bermuda Housing Corporation; 68, Department of Parks; 81, Department of Public Lands and Buildings; 82, Department of Works and Engineering; and 97, Land Title Registration …
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that Heads 36, 49, 53, 68, 81, 82, and 97 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThank you, Mr. Chai rman. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Public Works, Heads 36, 49, 53, 68, 81, 82, and 97 were approv ed and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expend iture for the year 2020/21]
The ChairmanChairmanWe call upon the Minister responsible for Cabinet and Government Reform to debate Heads 13, 14, 51, and 61. It has a time of three hours and it can finish so oner if everybody agrees. CABINET AND GOVERNMENT REFORM Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move the …
We call upon the Minister responsible for Cabinet and Government Reform to debate Heads 13, 14, 51, and 61. It has a time of three hours and it can finish so oner if everybody agrees.
CABINET AND GOVERNMENT REFORM
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move the following Heads: 13, 14, 51 and 61 the Department of Employee and Organisational D evelopment be now taken under consideration. Mr. Chair man, [Heads] 13, 14, and 61 I will do up front because they come directly under myself and Head . . . sorry the Department of Communications, Head 61 comes under . . . sorry, Head 51 comes under the Minister Jamahl Simmons, so he will do that after me.
The ChairmanChairmanContinue. [Mrs. Renee Ming, Chairman] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, I would have to agree with Colonel Burch in what he said just now. I think we could do some things better. The pr ocess that we have been doing now has been going on for years and years …
Continue.
[Mrs. Renee Ming, Chairman]
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, I would have to agree with Colonel Burch in what he said just now. I think we could do some things better. The pr ocess that we have been doing now has been going on for years and years and, basically, numbers change, but words, at the end of the day, do not change much at all. So, I could say “ditto,” “ditto,” and just put some numbers in from last year and we would be fi nished in 15 minutes. But the process that we have now . . . unfortunately, we will have to go through the process.
HEAD 13 —BERMUDA POST OFFICE
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, Madam Chairman, it gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 13, the Bermuda Post Office, found on pages B - 48 to B -53 of the Budget Book. Madam Chairman, the Bermuda Post Office is governed by the Post Office Act 1900, the Post Office Regulations 1933, and the Post Office (Departmental Administration) Regulations 1933. Postal services are provided from: the General Post Office (also known as the GPO), located on Church Street; the Mail Pr ocessing Centre (also known as the BMPC) located at New Venture House on Mill Creek; and the eight sub post offices located throughout our beautiful Island. These sub post offices are at Crawl, Devonshire, Flatts, Mangrove Bay, Southampton, St. George’s and Warwick, as well as the Perot Philatelic Bureau on Queen Street. Madam Chairman, the Bermuda Post Office’s mission is to connect the public to an accessible, affordable and efficient delivery of products and services. The Bermuda Post Office is a member of the Universal Postal Union (UPU) and works to ensure that it meets its Universal Service Obligation to pr oBermuda House of Assembly vide access to affordable communication to all res idents of Bermuda. The department aims to deliver mail consistently within four working days and provide the public with other postal services. The Bermuda Post Office also plans to increase its relevance in this digital age, and to take advantage of global opportunities in e- commer ce. Madam Chairman, the Bermuda Post Office has set the following as its strategic priorities for 2020/21: • continue Phase 2 of implementation of the new postal operations solution; • introduce strategic alliances with other ent ities; • generate additional rev enue; • be E-Commerce ready by 2020; and • become a customer service centre for other government services. Madam Chairman, the new postal operations solution is an information technology one that com-pleted its first phase in August 2019. This phase consolidat ed six legacy systems into one system whilst improving controls, efficiency, effectiveness and acc uracy of the revenue collection and stock management process. This system has provided the platform needed for the Bermuda Post Office to introduce new re venue -generating initiatives and form strategic alliances with other government departments and external parties on initiatives that are mutually beneficial. These initiatives include: utilising the Bermuda Post Office’s extensive Island- wide network to enhanc e the revenue collection process Government -wide; promoting online shopping; improving the customs declar ation process; and expanding courier services. The second phase of this project will enable the Bermuda Post Office to become E -Commerce compliant by 2 020 as well as provide a platform for the provision of e- postal products and services, and e - government services in the future—one of the initi atives highlighted in the 2018 Throne Speech. Hig hlights of this and other initiatives are provided in the sectio n below in relation to plans for the upcoming year. The Bermuda Post Office recognises that in order to remain relevant it must generate additional revenue. The Bermuda Post Office plans to do this by first developing a three- year business plan which would introduce new products and services including online shopping, improving customer service, devel-oping strategic alliances, and by introducing a more effective marketing strategy for new as well as exis ting products and services. Madam Chairman, the Bermuda Post Office is comprised of the Corporate Services Division and the Operations Division. The Corporate Services division includes Administration and Finance, Information Technology, and Philatelic Services; while the Oper ations Division is made up of the BMPC, the General Post Office (or the GPO), the Sub Post Offices, and Courier Services.
Expenditure Overview Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: As indicated on pages B -48 and B -49 of the Budget Book, the Bermuda Post O ffice has been allocated a total of $10,502,000 for the financial year 2020/21. This amount reflects a zero variance from the 2019/20 budget allocation. Hence, the point that the Minister just mentioned —no var iance, same revenue, and we are pretty well using the same talking points. Salaries and wages continue to be the largest expenditure item at 83 per cent of total expenditure, which is the same as the previous fiscal year. The total estimate of salaries and wages for 2020/21 is $8,735,000, which is up from $8,696,000 in 2019/20, an increase of $39,000, or a 1 per cent increase over last year. As most accountants would say, it is insi gnificant or flat, basically. This is representative of a drop in the approved establishment of 137 staff in 2019/20 to 135 in 2020/21, so a two employee drop compared to 2019/20, but there is a 2 per cent salary uplift. Madam Chairman, operational expenses for the Bermuda Post Office make up the remaining 17 per cent of the expenditure for 2020/21. The major operational expenses included in the 2020/21 budget are: rent, r epairs and maintenance, insurance, energy, clothing, uniforms and laundry, materials and supplies, training, et cetera, et cetera. And I will touch on a few of those numbers in a few minutes. As a matter of fact, I am going to mention it right now. When we look at Salaries, we had mentioned $7,500,011 compared to the revised figure of $7,419,000, which is really a 1 per cent increase or $92,000 over last year, or this current year, I should say. Wages are down by $54,000, now $1,223,000 compared to $1,277,0 00 (I am open to page B -49 in case anybody wants to follow). Other Personnel Costs was flat, zero, nothing at all on that particular expense. The Government is not putting money in there. Training is up by $3,000. It went from $19,000 to $22,000. Transport . And transport would be consi dered, as you know, many of the Post Office people drive their cars or bikes around to different homes and some expenses are built in there for fuel, et cetera, et cetera. Travel. We all know what Travel is, $12,000. Communic ation is down by $12,000. It went from $87,000 to $75,000. Advertising and Promotion is down by $7,000, or $79,000 to $72,000. 3450 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Professional Services went up by $7,000, which is offset between Advertising and Promotion — $76,000 up to $83,000. Rentals are flat $332,000 last year, $332,000 this year. Repairs and Maintenance went up by $3,000 from $539,000 up to $542,000. Insurance is flat at $12,000. Energy is flat [at] $12,000 last year, $12,000 this year. Sorry, 2020/21 . . . I cannot see this pro blem.
The C hairman: I think if you look at the line, yes.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, $221,000 [down] to $216,000; a $5,000 decrease. Clothing and Uniforms went from $60,000 to $60,000. It is the same thing, or zero, flat, no increase at all. Materials and Supplies [are] down by $17,000, from $239,000 to $222,000. Equipment (Minor Capital) went down by $18,000. Other Expenses went up by $8,000. So, you can see that last year the department spent $10,502,000 and this year the budget, again, [is] $10,502,000.
Revenue Overview
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: When we look at the rev enue side, the revenue side depicts last year, or this current year 2020/21, estimated that, well, last year’s budget was $4,645,000, but the revised figure is $4,220,000. And the reason for that is that the Frankpost Sales has been revised down from $1,097,000 to $800,000. Bulk Mail has been revised down from $1,019,000 to $980,000. But we also see a drop between 2019/20 to 2020/21 by $605,000 and the reason for that is because instead of budgeting for the $1 million as we did [last year] for Frankpost Sales (General), we are being more reasonable and saying the amount that we will actually collect is $750,000. And if you also look at the Bulk Mail, which was budgeted at $1 million, we are putting i t back down to $777,000. And between those two amounts there is where the drop in the revenue will take place. So, in other words, the 2019/20 Frankpost Sales and Bulk Mail were overstated.
Capital Expenditure
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, the Bermuda Post Office Capital Expenditure budget for 2020/21 can be found on page C -9 of the Capital A cquisition Estimates, Schedule C. The Bermuda Post Office has been allocated an amount of $27,450 for the purchase of a cancelling machine and computer equipment. This compares to a revised 2019/20 all o-cation of $80,000, a decrease of $52,550, or 74 per cent.
Major Policy Changes
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: If we look at some of the Major Policy Changes, Madam Chairman, there have been no major policy changes i n the Bermuda Post Office in 2019/20 and none are expected in 2020/21.
Plans for the Upcoming Year
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: We do have some plans for the upcoming year. As part of the Bermuda Post O ffice’s strategic objective to increase revenues, the department will be introducing an online shopping platform to allow our customers to purchase products and have them delivered through the Bermuda Post Office network. We believe that we can compete with the other courier services. As you know, most of the time the courier services all come in on the same plane down at the airport. They are on the same plane; but the problem is that the clearance between the Post Office . . . the courier service is faster than the Bermuda Post Office. And why do I say that? So, before I get to that part . . . so, we can deliver faster service . . . I am sorry, the same time as the courier service, and our price structure will be, of course, much lower because we are not really into that profit arrangement like the rest of the courier services. We believe that we can compete with those other couriers; hence, we believe revenue will event ually go up. Now, work is being done right now by KPMG looking at a three- year business plan to see how this whole thing can be put in place. S o, as soon as we get more information from them we can reflect the numbers in the budget. Right now, they are not r eflected in these budget numbers, but we will have a way to do it. But let me . . . all of you are aware that when you order online and it c omes to the Post Office, you go to the Post Office and the first thing they tell you is to open up your parcel. You go to FedEx and the rest of them, you get, Thank you Mr. Furbert . . . thank the rest of them. And you ask the question, Well, why? Well, th at is the question I asked. Apparently what happens is they want to verify that you are not lying [about] the product [in] there. Well, if you are lying there you are going to lie also in FedEx. So, what we will be putting in place is doing spot -checks fro m time to time on individuals. Hopefully we will speed up the whole process of people [so they will not] get frustrated every time they are coming through the post office. And so, customs will clear it, the information, just like they do courier services right now, they have a clearing service out there. It would get to the . . . leave the airport, go up by our trucking to our clearing process over there at Venture House, I think it is
Bermuda House of Assembly called. They will do the processing ensuring that customs does what the y have to do, get to the post office hopefully within 24 hours or 48 hours at the most, and then you go to your post office, ask for your parcel, and get it through much faster. But, from time to time they can ask for you to verify or open up the box to s ee, and that is what we call spot -checks. So that process will be speeded up tremendously. So, we will also be looking to increase rev enues by expanding our courier services as are cur-rently providing to the Ministry of Health. Our EMS and parcels products will be marketed better to i ncrease knowledge of these products both internally . . . by the way, we are speaking right now to . . . most of you are aware of myus.com. So we are having some discussions with them and others to how we can link up to flow things much faster here on the I sland. We will also enhance our service levels so as to improve our global EMS ranking, increase our pay - for-performance EMS revenue, and maximise the bonuses for our parcels delivery. The Bermuda Post O ffice will also be est ablishing corporate standards for customer service, inclusive of training and the measurement of outcomes. To enhance the efficiency by which mail is processed into the Bermuda Post Office, we will fina lise the MOU between the Bermuda Post Office and HM Customs, which I was just talking about. We will also establish MOUs with other departments with whom we have partnerships so as to clarify roles and responsibilities. The Bermuda Post Office is currently in the process of change with the second phase of the new postal solution expected to be completed in May 2020. This will facilitate a mandate issued by the UPU (Universal Postal Union) to send ITMATT data (or data which is used to communicate and attribute information about postal items) in 2020, to expedit e integration of the Bermuda Post Office’s IT solution with the global Customs Declaration System (or CDS). This will increase efficiency in the customs declaration process as well as enhance security and accountabi lity with respect to mail items. This phase is also ex-pected to include a web portal functionality including a customer service and payment gateway for [Philately], PO Boxes, bulk mailers and other services. It will also expand the Bermuda Post Office’s online presence to offer e- postal products and services, and e - government services in the future, one of the initi atives highlighted in the previous Throne Speech. And what do I mean by that, in case you are not aware? I remember when I was on the Efficiency Committee and what happened was that there were a lot of places where . . . I think it was about 19 different places where you could go pay for government services, your dog licence somewhere, your boat licence somewhere, your whatever, and the list goes on. So, we are going to provide a service within the post office services that you can go and pay . . . if not all, then most government services at the post office locations. In order to continue to have an online presence, the Bermuda Post Office website has been moved to the government website and we will intr oduce an online payment portal for certain postal services as far as possible within the current budget. Additional enhancements in IT include intr oducing touch screen kiosks at the General Post Office and all sub post offices, and introducing public Wi -Fi at the General Post Office. Both of these initiatives are expected to improve the customer shopping exper ience and increase foot traffic, thereby, increasing revenue. In order to increase accuracy over the payment recording process, we wi ll implement a credit card machine integration into the new postal solution. We will also be upgrading the IPS software for greater stability. Madam Chairman, additional legislative amendments to the Post Office Act 1900, the Post Office Regulations 1933, and the Post Office (D epartmental Administration) Regulations 1933 are contemplated. The first phase of amendments was completed in July 2019. It is anticipated that additional legislative changes will be made in 2020/21 and are likely to include proposals for rate changes. The Bermuda Post Office also plans to have five stamp issues and one Presentation Pack in 2020/21. Our stamp program will include: • Bermuda Bridges, Pt. 1, which will come out May 21, 2020; • 400 th Anniversary of Parliament, which will come out August 6, 2020; • Holiday Stamp, October 24, 2020; • Presentation Pack, November 12, 2020; and finishing with the • 100 th Anniversary of the Garden Club in March 24, 2021. We are proud to be an avenue through which Bermuda can showcase its culture and rich history. Members of the International Stamp Society —and Member Chris Famous is on this Committee—are planning a visit to Bermuda in November 2019. Chris is not a member of that, he is a member of the Ber-muda group. This visit is expected to promote our [Philately product] among international stamp collectors. We hope to develop relations with other agencies such as the Bermuda Monetary Authority and Berm uda Tourism Authority for mutually beneficial collabor ations, to increase philatelic sales and to market Bermuda as a venue for conferences and other types of events. The Bermuda Post Office will be updating the organisation structure to better reflect the vision and future needs of the department. Job descriptions will be updated and submitted for review and re- grading. A training plan for the department will also be deve loped. This process will by tied in with the develop3452 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly ment of a succession plan and an internal and external communications plan. The department is also committed to the full participation of its hearingimpaired employees through the use of an interpreter for staff meetings. On the operational front, the Bermuda Post Office is looking to implement a Customs Declaration System (CDS) which includes ITMATT, which is in respect to electronic data transmission for mail items. As a member of the UPU, the Bermuda Post Office is required to be operationally ready for e- Commerce in 2020. The Bermuda Post Office is Gold certified and meets all UPU security requirements and also passed a UPU Process Revi ew last year. The Post Office also ensured that they are operationally compliant with the requirements of the International Safe Transport of Dangerous Goods by Air requirements. Dangerous Goods standards have been implemented and training of staff has occ urred, and the BPO is compliant. We are looking to conduct a postman efficiency study and a measurement of delivery timeline pr oject. Madam Chairman, the objectives, goals and projects set by the Bermuda Post Office for 2020/21 will move it toward its vis ion of being a more innov ative, customer focused, and sustainable postal service. The outcome will be that Bermuda will be moving closer to implementation of a postal service which meets the needs of its residents whilst at the same time being sustainable and financially viable. Madam Chairman, I hasten to add my co mmendation to all of the hard- working and dedicated staff of the post office, who are ably led by the Acting Post Master General (should it be Post Mistress General?), Ms. Susan Moore -Williams an d her senior management team. Just to touch on a few highlights on what I mentioned about the numbers as far as salaries, revenue. I mentioned that the number of employees went from 137 down to 134. And I will leave the performance measures in case any of you want to ask any questions about that. So, that completes the Post Office. I will now go to Head 14, which is the Department of Statistics.
HEAD 14 —DEPARTMENT OF STATISTICS
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Again, it gives me great pleasure to present the bu dget for Head 14, The D epartment of Statistics, found on pages B -54 to B -56 of the Budget Book. The Mission is: To produce and provide stati stical information for data- driven decision making for Bermuda. The Department seeks to fulfil its mandate by delivering quality data that aligns with international standards and best practices, in order to facilitate a culture of evidence- based decision- making for policies and programmes. As such, the Department of Stati stics actively seeks to improve its statistical methodo logies to support informed decision- making and help achieve Government’s strategic objectives.
Expenditure Overview
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, the total current expenditure of the Department of Statistics found on page B -55 is $2,493, 000. And I will touch on these, but I am not going to read all of this. I like to look at numbers, it is better for myself. So, the Salaries are up by $58,000 or 3 per cent. Wages went from $66,000 to zero, and I think it is reallocation between wages and salaries . . . the $66,000 and the $58,000. Other Personnel Costs are flat, $6,000 last year, $6,000 this year. Training goes up from $12,000 to $42,000 or a $30,000 [increase]. We believe that it is very i mportant that the personnel who are actually at t he department have training in other locations around the world to see what they are doing. So, I support that. Travel went from $22,000 to $25,000 and we are doing more training, which may also include some travelling overseas, hence, why the Travel budget has gone up by $3,000. But as you see, the overall increase within the expenditure is zero. So, there has been some reall ocation within the department as far as being more eff icient and making their . . . based on zero- based budgeting. Advertising and Pr omotion went up by $11,000, from $6,000 to $17,000. Professional Service went up by $16,000, [from] $50,000 to $54,000. Rentals went down by $9,000, [from] $166,000 to $163,000. Repairs and Maintenance goes down by $7,000, [from] $59,000 to $52,000. Energy goes down by $18,000, [from] $78,000 to $60,000, which basically means that they are looking at some cost savings within Energy, because if you look at 2018/19 it was $42,000. Materials and Supplies go down from $69,000 to $53,000 or a $16,000 decrease. Minor Equipment Capital is zero. And Other Expenses goes down by $1,000. So, at the end of the day, $249,300 last year and $249,300 this year. As far as full -time equivalents there were 23 last year and 23 this year, or next year, a zero difference; no incr ease, no changes at all. There is no revenue making within the D epartment of Statistics. Maybe we can look at finding a way to charge a few when everybody goes online and looks at revenue . . . we can inquire about that, but we
Bermuda House of Assembly can investigate something l ike that maybe in the f uture. So, Madam Chairman, that is basically Stati stics, I am not going to get into . . . sorry, Major Achievements. We touched a little on those things. One of the major achievements of the d epartment is that the base year for meas uring Gross Domestic Product (GDP) at constant prices in Berm uda was updated from 2006 to 2013. In addition, met hodology changes based on the implementation of the 2008 System of National Accounts, such as the calc ulation of Financial Intermediation Servic es Indirectly Measured, were implemented. The revised estimates incorporated benchmark data from a 2013 Supply and Use Table which reconciles the three approaches to measuring GDP. Bermuda’s GDP series now reflects a more accurate picture of the size and s tructure of the economy and incorporates new activities which were pr eviously not captured in the computational framework. The relevance of the GDP series has been enhanced and is now more internationally comparable with other jurisdictions. Another major achievement was revising the International Standard Industrial Classification of all Economic Activities Rev. 4, which was last updated in 2003. The revised version aligns its procedures and classifications with international standards and would facilitat e arranging for all businesses to be classified consistently throughout the government ministries and departments. Both updating exercises incorporated feedback from the Caribbean Regional Technical A ssistance Centre consultant and were completed in August 2019.
Plans for the upcoming year
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The Department will produce the following core publications in the upcoming year: • Monthly: Retail Sales Index and Consumer Price Index; • Quarterly: Balance of Payments and International Investment Position; and Gross Domestic Product by Expenditure; • Semi -Annually: Labour Force Survey Reports; • Annually: o Bermuda Digest of Statistics; o Bermuda Job Market Employment Briefs; o 2019 Employment Survey Tabulation Set; o Annual Gross Domestic Product; o The Inf ormation, Communication and Technology Profile; o Environmental Statistics Compendium; and o The Tourism Satellite Account Report. Madam Chairman, the department will conduct the following surveys this year: • Quarterly Hotel Gross Receipts Surveys; • Surveys of C onstruction Projects; • Balance of Payments and International I nvestment Position; • Semi -annual Labour Force Survey; • Annual Employment Survey; and • Economic Activity Survey. The department conducts ad hoc surveys, provides survey samples and undertakes in- depth research and analysis of data. In addition, the d epartment provides statistical advice and professional consultancy in the collection, processing and analysis of data for government departments. The department will engage in activities such as processing and providing trade statistics, fulfilling statistical data requests from local and international organisations and making presentations to internal and external stakeholders. Madam Chairman, it is anticipated that the Department of Statistics will under go a comprehensive review by the Management Consultant Section of the Cabinet Office as we seek to maximise efficiency in terms of the use of technology, staffing and service delivery. Madam Chairman, let me take this opportunity to acknowledge and thank t he hardworking staff of the Department of Statistics led by the Director, who is in the Chambers today, Mrs. Melinda Williams, and her team of statisticians and support staff for their conti nued commitment. I just want to mention one thing in the Performance Measures. The department plans to do a N ational Household Income and Expenditure Survey from July 2020 to March 2021 and hopes to have an 80 per cent response rate. Madam Chairman, the next one I will touch on is the last one before the Minister Jamahl Simmons gets up, the Department of Employee and Organis ational Development, Head 61.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, just before you proceed, that can be found on page B -70 for the listening audience. HEAD 61 —DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYEE & O RGANI SATIONAL DEVELOPMENT Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 61, The Department of Employee and Organisational Development, …
Minister, just before you proceed, that can be found on page B -70 for the listening audience.
HEAD 61 —DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYEE & O RGANI SATIONAL DEVELOPMENT
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 61, The Department of Employee and Organisational Development, found on pages B -70 to B -72 of the Budget Book. The Department of Employee and Organis ational Development’s miss ion is to optimi se talent and transform the Organi sation. And I repeat, The D epartment of Employee and Organisational Development’s mission is to optimi se talent (within the civil service) and transform the Organi sation. The total current expenditure is es timated to be $1,672,000 for 2020/21, which remains unchanged from the original amount 2019/20. 3454 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly The subjective analysis for the department is on page B -71 of the estimates book. Please allow me to highlight the material object code increase. Salaries are estimated at $2,125,000 [and] represent an increase of 6 per cent or $126,000 compared to the current estimate for 2019/20 of $1,999,000. This increase is attributed to additional funds for resources needed to assist with implement ation of the new structur e as well as funding for employees incremented to the next grade in their pay scales during the current fiscal year in accordance with their employment contracts. Receipts credited to programmes, if you look on [page] B -71 you will see some receipts credit ed to programmes. This is estimated [to be] $579,000 in comparison to the current estimate of $437,000. This is attributable to the estimated recharges back to the Public Service Superannuation, Ministers and Members of the Legislature Pension and Government E mployee Health Insurance funds. These funds cover the administrative costs incurred by the compensation and benefits business units. I will repeat: There is work that is being done by the compensation and benefit business units and they charge back their costs to this particular salary portion. So, do you follow me? Okay.
Manpower
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The manpower estimates for the department as outlined on page B -71 are 21 full - time equivalents, which remains the same as the ori ginal estimate for the year 2019/20.
Performance Measures
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The performance measures developed for the Department of Employee and O rganisational Development are found on page B -72. The measures for the department are all new. This is a transition year for the new department and, ther efore, I will take the time to briefly expand upon them. Its initial brief is centred around organisational development and changes as the HR component is being built out. A number of significant change initiatives are in ch annel in accordance with the Government R eform Strategic Planning Framework. Many of these initiatives will affect the entire organisation and require engagement and participation at the ministry and department level. Therefore, the purpose of rolling out a Pe rformance Measurement and Management System for the government reform initiative is to establish a sy stematic approach to manage and evaluate the impl ementation of the change initiatives across the organ isation. Ministries and departments will ultimately be required to report progress. Strategy and performance underpin the deli very of government reform. Strategic alignment workshops, which focused on aligning department and ministry missions with the Government’s vision and operating model, were com-pleted in August 2019. These workshops established the foundation for the Performance Measurement workshops with ministries and departments in Oct ober. More work with ministries and departments under the direction of the Management Consulting Team will be undertaken in 2020 to ensure operations are aligned with the Government’s vision. These efforts are directly related to the performance measure to facilitate the completion of strategic plans by depar tments. Additionally, to ensure that the Government continues to cultivate the development of a performance management culture, ministries and depar tments will be provided with ongoing assistance to further refine the development of performance management metrics. As already stated, the system wide workshops with m inistries and departments commenced last year and the output is evidenced in the Performance Measures that have been included in the budget submissions for 2020/21 across all heads. What Honourable Members should have taken note of by now is the significant shift and the new measures that have been included under the Performance Measures section in the 2020/21 Estimates of Revenue and E xpenditure versus the 2019/20 Estimates for many mi nistries and departments. The new measures focus on results and outcomes related to the creation of public value, which is very important —measures focus on results and the creation of public value. Madam Chairman, the Management Consul ting Team will also continue their work in assisting the Government to solve complex operatio nal problems with a view to improving organisational performance. One of their core functions involves the conduct of [an] operational/organisational needs analysis across government. The objective of this work is to ensure that ministries and departments are functioning in an efficient (including cost efficient) and effective manner with the overarching objective of achieving greater public value as indicated earlier. Honourable Members will already be aware of work to centralise and streamline the deliver y of HR services in government. This requires the amalgam ation of 10 HR units and departments across gover nment —10 HR units and departments across gover nment. A part of this process involves rationalising processes and systems to ensure information flows freely between the Human Resources Information Management (HRIM) System and Enterprise One (E1) version 9.2. Work is already underway to identify duplic ation in the payroll processes. New workflows will be
Bermuda House of Assembly determined and ultimately the on- boarding experienc e improved, while at the same time the administrative burden will be reduced.
Current Year Achievements
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Effective 1st April 2019, the Management Consulting Services (MCS) section and the Accountant General’s Compensation and Benefi ts section were transferred to the Department of E mployee and Organisational Development for budget purposes. So, if you look, Madam Chairman, at the budget . . . and this is very important. If you look at the budget under employee numbers, Management Co nsultant Services Compensation is now under the D epartment of Employee and Organisational Develop-ment. This compensation originally was transferred to the Department of Employee . . . and the Accountant General’s Compensation and Benefit section, okay? I hope we are all aware of that. So, not all Human R esources units, or departments, are currently, right now, under the Department of Employee and Organ isational Development. You may be aware, Madam Chairman, the Department of Human Resources has a Human R esources department. The Bermuda Police Service has a Human Resources department. Bermuda Fire and Rescue Service has a Human Resources department. The Department of Corrections has HR. The gover nment Post Office has HR. Public Works has HR. The Department of H ealth has HR. The Department of Public Transportation has HR. The Department of E ducation has HR. The Accountant General’s depar tment has HR. They do not currently sit under the D epartment of Employee and Organisational Development in this budget. We are i n a transition budget and so, hopefu lly, next year, or, hopefully, within a year, we will have all those human resources falling under the Depar tment of Employee and Organisational Development. Okay, I just want to make it very perfectly clear on that part. Ms. Carlita O’Brien will take up this new post on March 9, 2020—she has [already] taken it up— and will lead the organisation through significant changes. So, this whole transition period will eventually . . . and not necessarily all human resources depar tments will sit within that office. As you know, we can work within . . . wherever you were working through, and some may end up in one big structure depending on how we work with Works and Engineering who is responsible for offices and stuff, but not necessarily will everybody have to sit within that [office]. But they will fall under the Employee and Organisational Development, hope-fully, in the next year’s budget. During the past year, Management Consulting Services (MCS) was designated the Project Manag ement Office (PMO) for the Government Reform Initi a-tive (GRI). In particular, MCS assisted the Deputy Head of the Public Service with mobilising the project with much succe ss. And I would like to thank PS Cherrie Whitter for such a great job for what she h as done, first of all, in leading this process and making it very clear, and helping me to understand how this actually makes it work. As the numbers became more enlightened, it even became clearer how this whole thing will work. In accordance with the pri orities established for government reform several taskforce groups are now actively engaged in delivering future- forward init iatives under the operating components known as People (which are government employees) and Platform (which includes government IT infrastructure). The Project Management Office is overseeing the delivery of work related to talent management, a Pilot Leadership Programme, a system wide performance appraisal process across all job categories, a rewards programme, and, of course, the tr ansition to the new model and structure for the delivery of HR services across government. On the IT side, the Project Management O ffice is overseeing the delivery of work related to government’s 2023 Paperless Initiative, digital identific ation, and telec ommunications rationalisation. Further, the Project Management Office led out on system -wide training for the alignment of fiscal management and strategic management through the ZBB (zero -based budgeting) process and managed the project to produce an elect ronic data collection instrument to assess the value of government ser-vices by business unit. The electronic tool was used throughout government to gather the necessary as-sessment data as a part of the ZBB data input pr ocess. The data gathered is now being analysed and will be used, following refinement and consultation, as one of the primary inputs for the delivery of the Public Services Plan. In accordance with the Government Reform Strategic Framework, the Government will produce a Five- Year Public Servi ce Plan which r equires the review and justification of services provided by Government by 2020.
Plans for the Upcoming Year
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The department’s core objectives for the upcoming year are set out on page B - 70 and that is to: function as the programme management office of the government reform initiative; facilitate organisational improvements of Ministries, departments and government entities throughout operational, organisational and strategic reviews; i mprove performance management gov ernment -wide in accordance with the Strategic Planning Framework 2019- 2023; and operationalise the Shared Services Centre. 3456 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Under the People component of the pr ogramme the Pilot Leadership Programme will launch in the spring, and the first cohort will be on- boarded this summer. The first phase of the system -wide performance appraisal process will roll -out in the spring and planning for the next phases will be completed. Also, it is expected that a major milestone in the delivery of HR services will be achiev ed with the launch of the Shared Services Unit in September. This back -office operation will manage the high volume of transactional services for all employees across the public service. Under the Platform, or IT component of the government reform initiati ve, the Project Management Office will oversee Phase I of the 2023 paperless init iative which is expected to result in a slew of gover nment forms being automated and made available to the public via the Government portal starting this spring. Pilot testing is now in progress with approx imately 16 customer forms across two departments already digitised, and a training programme designed to teach identified officers from each department how to digitise their own forms [is] a work in progress. The training is expected to take place in the spring and more customer forms, including those requiring pa yment should be available to the public this summer. The Project Management Office will also ensure the completion of planning for Phase II of Government’s 2023 paper less pursuit. Phase II addresses the content management and database components for the paperless initiative. Madam Chairman, during the fiscal [year] additional taskforce groups, under the direction of the Project Management Office, will be activated and new projects under the government reform initiative commenced. Further, the team will engage senior management across the service in another series of wor kshops as the government seeks to build capacity and improve performance management. It is also expected that a programme and performance management system will be implemented. The department itself is expected to take shape. Over and above the Shared Service Unit, it is anticipated that the amalgamation of more of the units and departments associated with the HR transformation will occur as the positions within the new d epartment are populated with existing employees. Madam Chairman, let me take this opportunity to acknowledge and thank the dedicated and har dworking staff within the Management Consulting S ervices section and the Compensation and Benefits sections who have commenced work on the amalgam ation of the Department of Employee and Organis ational Development and led out on the government reform initiative. At this time, I will give it to Minister S immons to do Head 51. HEAD 51 —DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNICATIONS
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Good evening, Madam Chairman. It gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 51, Department of Communications, found on pages B -66 through B -69 of the Budget Book. Our mission is: To be the trusted source of i nformation for Bermuda.
Expenditure Overview
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, on page B -66 there is a general summary for the depar tment. The total current expenditure is estimated to be $2,764,000 for 2020/21. This is a decrease in the pr oposed expenditure over the 2019/20 budget of $386,000 or 12 per cent. Madam Chairman, on page B -67 for the su bjective analysis you will note an error in the dates, which will be corrected. The dates for each column should be 2018/19, 2019/20, 2019/20, 2020/21 and 2019/20 versus 2020/21 respectively. Madam Chairman, there is a $256,000 decrease in salaries. This represents an overall 10 per cent reduction, which is due to the Portals Management section moving to Information and Digital Tec hnologies Department (IDT) in 2020/21. This transfer of posts was a recommendation by the Management Consulting Services section following their review of IDT in 2019. The advertising and promotion budget has decreased by $45,000, or 18 per cent, to $205,000. Professional services has decreased by $11,000, or 24 per cent, to $35,000. Repair and maintenance has decreased by $60,000, or 55 per cent, to $50,000. Materials and supplies has reduced by $13,000, or 32 per cent, to $28,000. Equipment (minor capital) has reduced by $3,000, or 5 per cent, to $56,000. Other expenses were reduced by $5,000, or 42 per cent, to $7,000.
Manpower
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, I will start by saying this is an all Bermudian staff. There has been a change in the number of staff in the department. In 2019/20 there are 30 full - time funded employee posts. Following a Manag ement and Consulting Services review of the Information and Digital Technologies Department (IDT), the decision was made to move the four posts in Portals Management Team from the Department of Communications to IDT. The section comprises one Assistant Director Portals Management and three Portals Administrators.
Bermuda House of Assembly The salary allocation for this section is $432,687. The other sections within the department remain the same. They are: Administration, Comm unications; CITV; Creative Services; and Telephone Customer Service Representatives (who are the Gov-ernment telephone operators). There is currently one post, Madam Chai rman, to be filled in the department; that of Communications Officer within the Communications section. The recruitment process has started and it is antic ipated the post will be filled in the coming months.
Communications section
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chai rman, as we discuss staff, I must pause to highlight the functions of the various sections within the department. The public continues to seek their news and information in short, interesting, easy to digest sound and visual bites. The department continual ly provides information which is readily and easily accessible utilising all platforms, radio and print ads; social media pos tings; 30 to 60 second videos; online postings; the government’s Tree Frog App; the government’s YouTube channel; and the government’s portal www.gov.bm . While the department incorporates traditional news services, social media continues to drive how the department communicates with the general public. Madam Chairman, Bermudians are increasingly turni ng first to social media and online news sources for their information. The department con-stantly reviews their analytics, online engagement and other measurements to determine what is working and how users want to receive their information. Madam Chairman, the drivers of media engagement are the communications team, who conti nue to provide outstanding service. The section comprises: one Assistant Director Communications, five Communications Officers and one Internal Communi-cations Officer. Their aim is to ensure that the community is well informed about government services, programmes, policies and legislative initiatives. In short, Madam Chairman, the communic ations officers provide the words that help to shape the voice of government which determines how the public sees and hears the information that is shared. Communications officers draft Ministers’ speeches, write and issue press releases and media statements. They create and implement communications plans, write ads and video scripts. Madam Chairman, working with Creative Services, they develop and maintain government’s social media presence. Within the public service, they make sure public officers know and understand what is happening around government. This drives employee knowledge and understanding about the organisation in which they work which further helps to enhance employee morale. CITV
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, over the course of 2019/20, staff at CITV made significant gains in productivity and in the quality of the work pr oduced at the station. With a small and efficient all - Bermudian staff, CITV is able to constantly generate fresh, professional programming which is relevant to Bermuda. Production standards at CITV, in terms of quality, quantity and speed, continue to improve. The quality of production has also increased in the areas of graphics and motion graphics, with the station maintaining a professional on- air image by constantly updating its graphics so they are timely, exciting and current. Since its launch in 2007, CI TV has become a central element in the architecture of the Bermuda community. The station occupies a cohesive place at the crossroads of government, culture and Bermudian identity. The CITV staff have developed a wide range of skills by moving from a broadcast video- only oper ation to one where the station routinely generates graphics, motion graphics, highly professional video and audio productions for social media. CITV generates hundreds of programmes, videos, public service announcements and radio ads every year. The content covers everything from government information to the arts, education, sciences, the environment, and Bermuda history, to name a few. Madam Chairman, as skills and technology have improved, so too have the station’s efficiency and cos t-effectiveness. Over the years, CITV has greatly increased the volume of work it generates, in the face of constantly shrinking budgets. Like other sections within the Department of Communications, CITV saves the Bermuda Gover nment tens of thousands of dollars in production costs annually. If the government were to outsource and use private sector production houses for a fraction of the work CITV produces, the cost would quickly become prohibitive.
Creative Services
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, if you want to immediately see an example of the work of Creative Services, I urge you to look at this year’s Budget Statement. The cover design and layout of this document is just one small example of the work the Creative Services team provides. This s ection includes an Assistant Director Creative Services, a Senior Graphics Designer, three graphic designers, two photographers and one Image Librarian. This small team works together to provide all government’s signage, posters and fliers, social media gr aphics, print ads and photography. 3458 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Chairman, everything you see that is produced by government would have been phot ographed, sourced and designed by the team at Creative Services.
Customer Service Representatives
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chai rman, the Customer Service Representatives are two ladies and a gentleman who answer government’s switchboard, arguably the busiest switchboard in Bermuda, fielding hundreds of call a day. They are the ones on the frontline, answering questions, giving hel p and directing callers. I am pleased to report that working with the Information and Digital Technologies Department (IDT), the current switchboard which has served us for decades, will be replaced.
Administration
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, this section comprises the Director, Executive Assistant and an Accounts Assistant. They are responsible for the administration and overall running of the depar tment.
Capital Expenditure
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, the capital expenditure for Communications listed on page C-10 of the Budget Book is $443,000. Four hundred thousand dollars has been all ocated to build a new website. The current site, www.gov.bm , is built on a system known as Druple 7 which will become obsolete in 2021 and, therefore, the work to build a new site must begin in the coming year. Twenty -two thousand dollars has been all ocated for a desperately needed new vehicle for Creative Services. Madam Chairman, $11,000 and $10,000 will be spent on buying new computer equipment and to upgrade existing television station equipment, respectively.
Output Measures
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: With the purchase of equipment for CITV and faster internet speeds, it is anticipated the number of programmes produced by the television station will increase by 5 per cent, t ogether with a reduction in the cost to produce these programmes. These locally -focused programmes further define and preserve Bermuda’s heritage and cu lture. Madam Chairman, Bermudians are increasingly turning to online options to view local and international content. More locally produced shows will be housed on CITV’s YouTube page, providing viewers with on -demand local programmes to watch when they want and where they want. Overall, the department will work to assess the services provided to customers using a customer service assessment tool. The goal is to continually increase internal customer satisfaction year over year, in order to ensure the Communications team meets and exceeds client needs.
Major Policy Changes
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, social media plays a significant role in how the government communicates with the public. More and more people get their news and information from family and friends sharing links to stories of interest and topics about which people have a concern. The social media platforms will continue to be used by the department to get information— whether it is a static graphic or brief video —to our people. Those interested in learning more can cl ick on the graphics and be directed to the website where press releases or information pages give even greater details. One such direct communications platform which was launched during the 2019/20 financial year is the Tree Frog app. Madam Chairman, for t hose who are unfami liar with the app, I will give a brief explanation. The Tree Frog app can be downloaded from the App Store or Google Play. All press releases that are posted on the government website www.gov.bm will be dow nloaded to the app. The public can receive information directly from the government, without interpretation, analysis or bias. As you may recall, Madam Chairman, before, during and after Hurricane Humberto impacted Bermuda last year, all information ab out the storm was relayed to the public by traditional media methods and via the Tree Frog app. Madam Chairman, this app was considered a huge success and continues to provide the people of Bermuda, whether on Island or overseas, with direct information about the government’s programmes, policies and services. Madam Chairman, I would like to take this moment to pause and acknowledge and recognise the public officers who worked extremely hard to create, launch and maintain this news and information app, and to congratulate the Bermuda College students and their lecturer who were a part of the project from its inception. Madam Chairman, I encourage everyone who does not already have the app to download it to their phone today.
Plans for the Upcoming Year Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, the department will work to enhance and fine tune how it
Bermuda House of Assembly communicates with online users, employing analytics and analysing engagement to determine what works for the identified demographics and target markets. The modernisation of CITV’s equipment is ongoing. Working with IDT, the main government switchboard will undergo an enhancement, making it easier and faster for the general public to communicate with government departments. Madam Chairman, the Department of Co mmunications will provide guidance and support to Mi nisters, Permanent Secretaries and Heads of depar tments as they work to deliver their message to the public through social and traditional media. The role of internal communications grows as employee- focused programmes are created and implemented as there is an increased demand for employee awareness and engagement. Madam Chairman, I would like to close by thanking the Director, Aderonke Bademosi Wilson and the expert team at the Department of Communic ations . Their ability to serve under often stressful cond itions, including late nights and weekends, is extremely commendable. And I appreciate the sacrifice that they make and for the excellent job that they do. This goes for the entire team: communications off icers; the Creative Services team; CITV; portals administrators; administrative staff and customer service represent atives (the telephone operators). All work together to provide sound professional advice, a stellar product and a quality level of service unmatched anywhere. Bermuda public officers and the government are well served by the Department of Communications and I take this opportunity to publicly thank each of them. Thank you, Madam Chairman. This concludes my budget presentation for Head 51.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Ministers. Just for the benefit of the listening public, we are doing Cabinet/Government Reform, Heads 13, 14, 51 and 61. Would any Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 20,
Ms. Susan Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonGood evening, Madam Chairman. Before I begin, I would like very much to focus on one head at a time, so maybe Communications first, and then I will move on to the other three. But before I ask my questions I would like to acknowledge, especially on International Women’s Day, …
Good evening, Madam Chairman. Before I begin, I would like very much to focus on one head at a time, so maybe Communications first, and then I will move on to the other three. But before I ask my questions I would like to acknowledge, especially on International Women’s Day, that all of the heads that we are debating right now are led by women. And I certainly do recognise the strength and the potential, and I certainly wish them all well. If you do not mind, Madam Chairman, I would like to just name them. The Head of the Department of Statistics is Melinda Williams. The Acting Head of the Department of the General Post Office is Susan Moore Williams. The Department of Communications, Aderonke Bademosi Wilson, and the Department of Employee and Or ganisational Development —congratulations too—Carlita O’Brien. So, it is wonderful to see that so many people moving into leadership roles are women. So, thank you very much for all of that. So, moving on to Communications, I did not really have any . . . I did not want to go line by line as there have not been many changes. But I am interes ted in the portal and the changes that are taking place with the website. And so, I am wondering if the Mini ster can just give a brief description and explanation of what difference it is going to make, moving the staff and the portal management from Communications into the technology space. And, of course, my concern really is around the content and what is going to be provided to the public. So, my question would be that if they are moving into a more technical domain, is that going to compromise the content that would be on the web-site? And if there are going to be any changes, which in some ways will be welcome changes to the www.gov.bm website, what those changes might be? Would you mind answering those questions? Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Madam Chairman, and thank you, Honourable Member. The changes were made, actually, to create a better synergy by putting them in the more technical section In terms of what we can expect from the website, I cannot say at this time. Part of the issue with upgrading the website is the expiration of the existing service. I cannot remember its exact technical name, but that expires in 2021, so t hat will require us to do an upgrade. When we get closer to the time we will be able to analyse what will actually be changed and what will be done to upgrade it. In terms of content, DCI will continue to liaise with the portals team to make sure the cont ent is co nsistent with the content you would see on Tree Frog or anywhere else where government information is contained. So, at this time, right now, normally DCI would provide the content to someone who uploads it to the site. I do not anticipate that c hanging. Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonYou did mention analytics and, just for the sake of the general public who may be following along, I am on page B -67 discussing line item 61060 Portals Management. So, within that you had mentioned the intr oduction of some analytics. And I am just wondering how are we …
You did mention analytics and, just for the sake of the general public who may be following along, I am on page B -67 discussing line item 61060 Portals Management. So, within that you had mentioned the intr oduction of some analytics. And I am just wondering how are we going to communicate and prepare the general public for what will be really quite a bit of data collection that they may or may not want to get i n3460 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly volved in. So, without getting too into the weeds about it, two big pieces for me: One is probably the most popular and common, which would be cookies. So, cookies, basically, is a method on a website where the computer, the technology, can track your interests. So, if you go onto the government website and you go to the public libraries and you spend some time in the public libraries, the Bermuda National Library site, and you are looking for certain items within the library, maybe a little bit in the archives, and then you come out of that site and you are minding your own business and then all of a sudden bookstores start popping up on your screen when you are on Facebook, or you might be on any other website. And then, all of a sudden, things that seem like they are directly of interest to you randomly st art to appear on the website. Well, that is because these cookies are tracking your likes on . . . and I do not mean “likes” like Facebook, social media likes, but the sites that you are travelling and landing on within the Internet, they are tracking that and they are taking what you favour and then they are advertising to you, in a nutshell. And so with all of that, this being a gover nment website, are we going to be looking at tracking people? Are we going to have things like a cookie policy where we are informing our visitors to the gover nment website that: (1) we are tracking; or (2) giving them the option to opt -out and not be a part of having this tracking take place? And what is the government doing from the backend of this to put in place the proper safeguards? And, of course, the privacy, the data privacy, is another growing issue. Bermuda is getting closer and closer to exercising the legislation that has been passed around privacy. And so, how are we going to manage that on the government website? Now, to the best of my knowledge, the government website does not collect any data, it is just a search engine. Is that correct, Minister? Yes. So, at least there is not a concern that there is personal data that will be shared. But just the fact that there is a pr ivacy policy that could become live soon and how that would impact visitors to the government website. So, my question, again, is, Are we going to be going into some serious analytics? And if we are, how is that going to be implemented and when, who? Could you just give us some information on that?
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, Honourable Member, the analytics that we are referring to are actually the study of the effecti veness of posts. So at the moment we are using a software called Hootsuite, which basically gauges how many times something is shared, how many times som …
Minister.
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, Honourable Member, the analytics that we are referring to are actually the study of the effecti veness of posts. So at the moment we are using a software called Hootsuite, which basically gauges how many times something is shared, how many times som e-thing is liked, how many times things are passed on in conversations around it. And part of the measurement of the tool is that you will find out that maybe there are certain subjects that generate more interest and r esponse. There are certain presentations, whether it is video or image, which generate better response. And so in using that information, we are then able to say, Okay. These are the most effective tools for reaching people. In terms of the cookies in the website, at the moment we do have cookies on the website, but we do not spam people. We do not provide that information to anybody else. No w, we are able to track how people use the site, to make it easier for people to find out what they are looking for. They are invest igating to find out what the cookie policy is, but this falls under the information technology side, so that is a little bit outside the remit. But I think it important that part of the analytics that we are using via Hootsuite is to be able to see things such as what times people are most likely to be observing. So when you see something . . . you know, if I post something at 9:30 am, for example, there is a different reaction than if I post something at 1:30 pm. And so those are things . . . we are able to get better timing, better response and become more effective. And the reason why this is important, partic ularly in the 2 1 st century, is that people no longer just go to the paper and read it cover to cover to get their information. It is very much a bespoke experience. And so you have to maximise the time that you get in front of people and the way that they get the information which is most appealing to them. So there are many people, for example, who will not watch a 10minute video. So you determine from some of the things they look at that certain videos are more effective. You will find that some visual images are more effective. And so it is very helpful in terms of making sure we penetrate, because as more and more people are choosing what they choose to take in, it becomes harder and harder to get their attention at the time they want to have their attention grabbed. And so that is part of the process. I will try to get you a more detailed answer on the cookie policy. But at the moment we do not track that sort of thing. We are not giving that information to anybody for that to go somewhere else and use. Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonAnd I have one other question around the portal, and then I will let it go. And that is around the design and the actual journey that the customer experienced. So, you know, I understood the rationale around having basically the www.gov.bm as the search engine. You know, you pretty …
And I have one other question around the portal, and then I will let it go. And that is around the design and the actual journey that the customer experienced. So, you know, I understood the rationale around having basically the www.gov.bm as the search engine. You know, you pretty much get on a
Bermuda House of Assembly landing page and you type in what you are interested in. And then it gets pretty much as close as you are going to get to the topics. And gone are the days when there were individual websites. And I happen to have gone on a website that must have been the post office’s original website, because it had been many years since it has been updated. But it is still out there if you google Bermuda Post Office. Same with, you know, the Bermuda National Library, which, I have to declare my interest, I was at one point very much a part of the board. And they have a beautiful website that is still live, but it is no longer in use becaus e of the mainframe www.gov.bm portal. I know how difficult and time- consuming it can be to have to manage a very creative website. And it is your own website, and so you have got to find an individual IT person in every d epartment in order to maintain and update each department’s website. But at the time same, there is something to be said around the customer experience, when you can go to one particular website and everything that you want to ask about that topic is right there. Whereas now with the www.gov.bm site, you kind of have to keep searching and trying different key words to collect what it is you are looking for. So my question then is, Is there any appetite (well, it will not be communications now; it will be technology) to look at the design of the gov.bm we bsite and how it may change its look and feel to i mprove the customer experience?
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: I think that is a very good question. And I agree. I think that i s part of the pr ocess that is necessary, because we want to be an effective tool for the public to get information from. So right now . . . and a lot of businesses have actually gone away from websites, and they just stick it on their Facebook page or the ir Instagram. But we have to be able to cover all the bases. And making it more effective, more accessible and a better product is part of the mandate going forward. Now, as to what that looks like and how that will work, I cannot say at this stage. But t hat is part of the mandate. Because we recognise that it has to be user-friendly.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonI am sorry, I just came up with another question around the portal. This question actually overlays with the online services for the post office. So i f a government department chooses to have any kind of online services, if we start getting into being able to make purchases or …
I am sorry, I just came up with another question around the portal. This question actually overlays with the online services for the post office. So i f a government department chooses to have any kind of online services, if we start getting into being able to make purchases or being able to pay for certain taxes and things, is this going to be something that will be a part of the mainframe portal? Or wi ll that be a separate website?
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: I cannot really say at this stage because, as I mentioned, they are actually g oing to be basically rebuilding it almost from scratch. So whatever those considerations will be will be pro bably wrapped into that. That is the best I could say at this stage. But I commit to working with my colleague in the Ministry of the Cabinet Office to bring the information forward at the appropriate time.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonAnd I have one other topic that I am int erested in in the Department of Communications. And that is the telephone customer service. This is B -67, and I will start with the Tel ephone Customer Service Representatives, 61070. So you had mentioned that there is a new phone …
And I have one other topic that I am int erested in in the Department of Communications. And that is the telephone customer service. This is B -67, and I will start with the Tel ephone Customer Service Representatives, 61070. So you had mentioned that there is a new phone system which is in the pi peline. What will happen, and will this new system impact the three, the super -valuable, absolutely wonderful personalities that are presently on the telephone system?
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Madam Chairman, it is my hope that it will make their lives eas ier. At the moment they are, quite honestly, stretched. And if you have a situation where, say, one person is sick and another person has to leave the office for personal reasons, you have issues. And also the system has a number of technical problems as well. So it is our hope that this will actually make their lives easier, make their jobs easier and could provide a faster, more effective service for the public. So in terms of the details, the mandate really was to try and find a way to address the fact that we really are tight down there. And when you have . . . it’s a vehicle that operates at high efficiency when every part is in place. But it can very quickly break down if the machinery breaks down or an individual has an illness or is gone. So part of it is to try and make their lives easier and to provide a better service to the public consistently. Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanWould any other Member wish to speak to Head 61, the Department of Communic ations? I recognise the Member from constituency number 10. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. To the Honourable Minister, this has been an interesting discussion. Around social media, could the Honourable Minister inform this …
Would any other Member wish to speak to Head 61, the Department of Communic ations? I recognise the Member from constituency number 10. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. To the Honourable Minister, this has been an interesting discussion. Around social media, could the Honourable Minister inform this Honourable House if the strategy was developed in- house or outside the house, and if it was developed outside the house, can the Honourable Minister say who helped develop it and what was the cost?
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: I will have the cost for you shortly. It is for a period in the final quarter of, or in the middle of 2019. We had the services of Keshia Ming. It was put out by the Director of Communications to hire him to do overall strategy, to do an analysis of the 3462 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly effectiveness of what we were doing, as well as to look at some of the ways we presented information. So I will get the information on the cost. If I remember correctly from memory, it was about a three- month contract. And I cannot remember off the top of my head. But I will get that information for you. The team is actually pulling it together for y ou. But I think it was important because one of the . . . I think it is important to stress that our machinery is evolving. And it is evolving by nature, because the last change in job descriptions we had was back in the early to mid- 2000s. And if you look at 2007, that is when social media really started to kick in. So when we brought staff on board, they did not necessarily have to have the skills when they were hired. And we are finding now that this is part of supplementing necessary information. So it is whether, you know, knowing how to present it, how to present, things of that nature; that expertise was very helpful. So he was on for a period of time. And like I said, I will get the details for you shortly as soon as they have it for me. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Minister. Would any other person wish to speak to Head 51, Department of Communications? I recognise the Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonYes. I would like to just move over to the performance measures on B -69, in partic ular. In Portals Management, 61060, I am just interes ted in the satisfaction surveys that you have. I see that there are satisfaction surveys as well for 61070, which are the Customer Service …
Yes. I would like to just move over to the performance measures on B -69, in partic ular. In Portals Management, 61060, I am just interes ted in the satisfaction surveys that you have. I see that there are satisfaction surveys as well for 61070, which are the Customer Service Representatives. And each year it is just mentioning that there is a desire for an increase in satisfaction scores. Usually it is between 5 per cent for the customer service reps and 10 per cent for the satisfaction levels of the government portal, by users. But I am just wondering what the current satisfaction levels are for both the portal and the customer services. So, you know, we know we want to try and get an increase. But where are those satisfaction scores now?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Madam Chairm an. Unfortunately, I do not have that information with me. But I would ask my team to put it together. I will be glad to provide it as soon as they have it for me. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Would any other Member wish to speak to Head 51, Department of Communications? No other Member. We will move to the other heads. But I just wanted to make sure that we did ev e-rything in Head 51. So rather than having each Mini ster going up and …
Thank you. Would any other Member wish to speak to Head 51, Department of Communications? No other Member. We will move to the other heads. But I just wanted to make sure that we did ev e-rything in Head 51. So rather than having each Mini ster going up and down every five minutes, I think that would make more sense.
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The ChairmanChairmanOkay. We move to the other heads at this time.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonYes, please. And so I am interested in asking some questions for Head 13 for the Post Office. So my first question is actually on the leadership, s o let me just look for it in employee numbers. I guess I can speak to it on page B -49 under …
Yes, please. And so I am interested in asking some questions for Head 13 for the Post Office. So my first question is actually on the leadership, s o let me just look for it in employee numbers. I guess I can speak to it on page B -49 under Salaries and Wages. Page B -51 under Administration and Finance. I am just curious what the status is for the Post Master General. She has been in an acting positi on now for quite some time. And what is in place to see whether we cannot confirm someone in that role so that there is a feeling of continuity and stability, given the fact that there appear to be quite a few initiatives that the Government would like to proceed with. But having someone in an acting position, to me, just seems like it is not as stable and confirmed. And I am just curious what the status is on the position of the Post Master General.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The stat us is that the persons acting are . . . the Ministers do not get involved in hiring government workers. And it will be up to the head of the civil service and the PS [Permanent Secretary].
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Minister. I recognise the Member from C -20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonAnd my other question is around page B -49, line 345, the Sub- Post Offices. You mentioned that there are now eight of the sub-post offices. And I am just curious, one, what has come of the post offices that are no longer in oper ation? I know that there …
And my other question is around page B -49, line 345, the Sub- Post Offices. You mentioned that there are now eight of the sub-post offices. And I am just curious, one, what has come of the post offices that are no longer in oper ation? I know that there was an initiative sometime back to just try to sell them. I am just not sure what the status is of the closed sub- post offices and whet her there is any appetite to reduce the numbers any further in the coming year or so.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The Post Office does not come under the Minister of Cabinet. It will come under the Ministry of Works and Engineering. That falls u nder their assets. So what will be done will be done from that Ministry’s point of view. As far as looking at it further, having this reduction, we have not considered it at this time.
Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Susan E. Jackson: And also, I would like to ask some questions around the Universal Postal Union, not quite sure what line item that would be. Maybe Professional Services? I am not quite sure. But my question is that I am curious. You had mentioned in one of your Ministerial Statements a while back that the Bermuda Government is paying some $80,000 a year, I believe, in sort of membership dues for the United Postal Union. And I c ertainly know that this year it feels as though the Minister has given quite a few Ministerial Statements around challenges with the UPU. So I am just curious where we stand and what we are going to do with that. I do not even know if we have to be member s. I know that the United States had threatened to pull out of the union because they were not satisfied with some of the rates that were being kind of, I guess, mandated by the Universal Postal Union. And so it has just kind of triggered the question of w hat our role is really in the UPU. Why we are in it, why we are pa ying $80,000 a year and what we are getting out of it?
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: UPU is a conglomerate of 194 unions, or members. If you were not involved in the UPU, you could not move transactions or parcels throughout the union membership. You would not be a part of it. You could not transfer information to the United Postal Services. They would not move it unless you formed some other specific agreements. But because you are a member of the UPU, those countries have to accept your postal services. Okay? And the $80,000 . . . we pay that $80,000 to the UK Government. I am not sure which line item that falls under because they then pay it to the UPU. Okay? We pay the money particularly to th e UK Pos tal Service. We fall basically under them. They then pay. That is why when we go to the United Postal U nion conferences they speak on our behalf, although we pay as a member.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonOkay. So no votes. And we come under the UK. So th is feels a little bit like a correspondent bank, and it is all about the United States, really, right? So if we want to move any posts and parcels through the United States, we have to be a …
Okay. So no votes. And we come under the UK. So th is feels a little bit like a correspondent bank, and it is all about the United States, really, right? So if we want to move any posts and parcels through the United States, we have to be a member of the UPU. I know that the United States has sort of rates that they charge for international posts. On top of the $80,000 a year for the membership, do we have to pay postal rates to the United States Post Office every time we pass mail through their system? Yes. Okay. So is there anything that we can do to get good value from being a member of the UPU? I mean, I saw that . . . I just kind of googled them. (I ask Google everything.) And I notice that there are some jurisdictions, small jurisdictions that actually really want to compete. And I noticed that we d o mention in the Budget Book, you know, that we have got rank-ings. Maybe it was a Ministerial Statement. You know, that we have particular rankings. And if I were to give some direction, page B -52 under Programmes, 330, just talking about sort of technical compliance of the UPU, products, specifications, I guess it would fall under that to a certain extent. Are we actually trying at the post office to i mprove some of the ratings that the union has so that we can find some competitive aspect to it? I notic e that there are some jurisdictions that very proudly say that they are ranked eighth as, you know, being able to deliver post in a particular window of time, that they are fast, that they are efficient and, you know, some other attributes. And I am just w ondering whether we at the general post office, the Bermuda Post Office, have any appetite to really try to compete with some of those rankings to improve our services to such an extent that we can generate some national pride, some government civil servic e pride around some of the improved rankings.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I will try to explain. I do not have the information in front of me, but let me try to explain basically how it works. So the United Postal Union falls under an advanced country, per se, and a country that is being modernised, or …
Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I will try to explain. I do not have the information in front of me, but let me try to explain basically how it works. So the United Postal Union falls under an advanced country, per se, and a country that is being modernised, or a country that is underdeveloped and so on. So the more underdeveloped countries pay a lower rate than we charge them. And the fight last year was with China and the United States in par ticular. Many of you buy something, products from . . . I think the company is called Alibaba. It is cheaper to get their products from China to Bermuda than from New York to Miami. So the Trump administration said, Nah. No, no, no. We want them to increase their rates. Hence, we will limit ourselves, myself and others who were buying from China, to get the product here. And there was literally a strong mandate from the Trump admi nistration that if the UPU do not increase their rates, they are going to pull out. So we met in Switzerland. And they made it very clear. It was either do or die. You know, we all know who the big country is when it comes to the United . . . if they had pulled out, we would have to negotiate particularly with the United Postal Se rvice. But the UPU said, If you negotiate with them, you are out of the UPU. So it was all this big mess as far as what to do. So it was bargaining. It was political manoeuvring. And the first vote was, Nope. Not happening. And so, everybody bowed their head. And it was a whole room of . . . it was huge. And we went away to come back in the afternoon, so let us say one o’clock in the afternoon. And then we all said we heard that the meeting was being held off until four o’clock, for an example. In other words, negotiation was starting to take place, and some things were making some headway. 3464 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly So, what was agreed on was that they will adjust the rates for . . . and we fell, Bermuda fell, interestingly, under a more modern jurisdiction or a more advanced juris diction. Hence, our rates were pretty high, right? Hence why we pay $80,000 and some countries may be paying, I do not know, $5,000 or $7,000 for being part of the UPU. The larger ones, of course, we were up there with the United States, France, Canada and all the rest of them. There were very few Caribbean countries that were involved in that with us. So what was agreed on is that the United States could increase their rates, okay, for China. And because of that, we will be able to increase our rates for any country that deals specifically with the United States and particularly Bermuda, based on the amount of weight, a certain weight. And so I expect that we will get a rate adjustment. It is not calculated here because we do not know what exactly it is going to be, right now. There will be an adjustment to the rate. Hence we will gather more revenue. We will have the opportunity, too, to do that. But it came down to . . . I remember clearly the Secretary of State said that . . . he was clear. He was sitti ng on that side about three rows behind me. And I looked at him and I said, Well, in other words you either do it or we are pulling out. And so ever ybody had to . . . there were fights . . . not literally fights. There were debates and a proposal put forward by some other countries. And we came down to the idea that we will let the United States increase their rates, particularly when it came to China. So now the rate from China to New York may be just as much as from New York to Miami, for instance. And h ence, anybody who will eventually be buying it from China from Bermuda, well, the rates will be going much higher. I hope I explained that a little bit.
The ChairmanChairmanI recognise the Member from consti tuency 20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonSo I just will segue then to ask some questions around some of the proposals for future services. On page B -49, line 350 under Courier Services, with all of these there are not any real n umeric changes. So this is not a big discussion for me around the …
So I just will segue then to ask some questions around some of the proposals for future services. On page B -49, line 350 under Courier Services, with all of these there are not any real n umeric changes. So this is not a big discussion for me around the spending, but it is around the performance and the evolution of these various departments. So you had mentioned the online shopping and the creation of the possibility to have courier services and an express mail kind of thing coming from the United States. So I am just wondering, one, how will that kind of online shopping model work well or have any rel ationship to the UPU? You know, I mean, if the Berm u-da government, the post office, gets into a relationship with, I guess i t would have to be an American distribution business of some sort, which would collect all of the parcels that Bermudians would be purchasing products online, Amazon, wherever, and all of those products that we order online from the government post office would then go to some American distribution. And then that American distribution would, I would suspect . . . you had mentioned they all use the same plane, so these things would then be flown to Bermuda. Are they not going to be a part of the gen-eral postal tr aditional processing? Or is it going to be sort of like a separate kind of business, this online shopping? Or how is that going to work?
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, the post office provides that service now. There are goods that come through the Bermuda Post Office. If you look at the retail sales monthly, there is a value that is placed there. So we get about $400,000 to $500,000 of value that comes through the post office based on people ordering online. It is cheaper. It is cheaper. But if you look at other courier services, sometimes they are $12 million. I think last month was about $19 million for a certain courier service that comes through. So you have goods coming through shipping. You have got goods coming through people bringing them back through on the plane. You have got goods coming through the courier service. Like I said, it was like somewhere between $15 million and $19 million, not last month, but whenever we did it last, in December. But the Bermuda Post Office value —value, not the month that we collect —is about $400,000. So if we provide a service . . . and many of you within the sound of my voice have an address in the United States. I know my son- in-law has an address som ewhere in New Jersey. He sends his products from time to time to their [New] Jersey address. When he gets to a certain amount, he says, Send me that bulk. Right? So if we are able to provide, say a separate thing is coming in, and they come in in a bulk package or a box or whatever you consider, that of course would be cheaper coming in on that particular plane. And I mentioned that we are having discussions with www.myus.com . As a matter of fact, some of you may a lready be going through them. But type www.myus.com , you can actually do that. So that pr ovides ZipX , may have, because they have their own services, distrib ution centres around the United States. I believe the one over on (not Bermudiana Road) Par -la-Ville Park, the road down there (I could not name the company) . . . they have a . . . I mean, literally we could set up a sub- place somewhere in the United States if we want ed. But whether it is cost effective or not, we will take a look at it. And then ever ything will go there. And then they ship it, fly it from wherever back to Bermuda for distribution.
Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 10.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. To the Honourable Minister: I was listening to your brief, but I stepped out a bit to get something to eat. Did you give mail volumes for the past year or over the past couple of years? Volume of mail that has been moved by the Bermuda Post Office? Vol-ume of mail that has been moved over the past year? The reason why I ask that is because it is clear that mail volumes continue to decline for many reasons . You know, people do not send you bills anymore by mail; you pay them online. There are many, many reasons behind it. And with the mail volumes decreasing, I would be interested to know how much they have continued to decrease. Is there any consideratio n for a review of the mail delivery routes and the frequency for delivery? Because as I understand, at the present time if I would have one letter that is for me on a Monday, my post office person would bring it on a Monday. If there was another that came for Tuesday, they would do Tuesday, and they would do it every day of the week. Is there any consideration, based on declining vo lumes, of looking at streamlining routes, making them more efficient so we could utilise our staff in a more efficient way to m ake them more productive?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Honourable Member, I do not have the numbers in front of me right now. I am hoping they are bringing them back and can provide that information for us. But there has definitely been a reduction in mail. I think we all recall when we …
Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Honourable Member, I do not have the numbers in front of me right now. I am hoping they are bringing them back and can provide that information for us. But there has definitely been a reduction in mail. I think we all recall when we were much younger than we are now that we were writing letters to our girlfriends, whoever, every five minutes.
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Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: But you do not write an ymore. You send out text messages. You send out one text message. And so people are not using mail as much. And right now, most companies are sending you information online. Get your BELCO online; you get quite a few things on online. But the numbers have decreased, and yo ur point is valid. And that is why the numbers basically for employment, for employees in the post office, have decreased over time. I used to have a graph, but unfortunately . . . I wish I had remembered. I could have brought it. But as you know, the revenue is here, and expenses are up here. So we are trying to get this moved and going closer. But the points that you have mentioned are valid, and we are looking for that type of information ultimately to make things much more efficient within the department and provide more services.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Madam Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanYes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Minister, just as a follow - up to that. Are post office personnel who make the deliveries now more flexible? Can they do varied routes throughout the Island?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I will try to get that info rmation to the Member.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberSend him a letter. [Laughter]
The ChairmanChairmanWhile you sort that out, let us take a minute to remind the public that we are in the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure. We are doing Heads 13, 14 and 61, Cabinet and Government R eform. It is now 7:31. And this debate will finish at 8:40. Member, …
While you sort that out, let us take a minute to remind the public that we are in the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure. We are doing Heads 13, 14 and 61, Cabinet and Government R eform. It is now 7:31. And this debate will finish at 8:40. Member, you would like to speak? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, please. To the Minister : In line with what my —
The ChairmanChairmanJust one second, because he is act ually just taking one second to do that. And I want him to be able to hear your question. [Pause]
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, you have someone who would like to speak, but I wanted to make sure that you have their — [Crosstalk] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. I am just trying to get the information for the Member. Was there another question you asked? Sorry. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, I …
Minister, you have someone who would like to speak, but I wanted to make sure that you have their —
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Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. I am just trying to get the information for the Member. Was there another question you asked? Sorry.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, I had. And it is in line with what my colleague ask ed. Bearing in mind that . . . I am looking at the headcount in terms of 132 and then 137, and then 134. I guess what I am asking is the fact that . . . bearing in mind that the amount —
The ChairmanChairmanExcuse me, Member. You said you are looking at the headcount? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am looking at head B -51. 3466 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Okay. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay? And I am saying, bearing in mind that the …
Excuse me, Member. You said you are looking at the headcount? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am looking at head B -51.
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Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Okay.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay? And I am saying, bearing in mind that the . . . we all know that the amount of mail that is being delivered is declining. And I guess my quest ion to you is, Has any study been undertaken to see whether, with the amount of mail that is being delivered, whether a scheduled . . . You know, we have garbage, which is collected once a week. It used to be twice a week. We have all gotten used to that. So should we be turning around and looking at the mail and saying, okay, mail is only being delivered twice a week? Especially if the delivery of mail twice a week will mean that we will need fewer individuals to be in the postal service. Now, I am assumi ng that if we have fewer individuals, those individuals will be available—
The ChairmanChairmanHold on. Hold on one second, Member. I need to make sure that I am listening to what the Member is saying. So if you are talking, I am just asking you to lower your volume. Thank you. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So I am assuming that if we are …
Hold on. Hold on one second, Member. I need to make sure that I am listening to what the Member is saying. So if you are talking, I am just asking you to lower your volume. Thank you.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So I am assuming that if we are able to reduce the number of postal workers who are required to deliver mail . . . that leaves them to do something else. And I do not know, that something else might not be in the post office, but it might be in another government area where they have skills. And to me, the bottom line is, what can we do to r educe the size and the cost of government? It does not make sense not to explore this. And if you were in the private sect or, this is the first thing that they would be doing. So I have to ask the Minister, has this type of review been looked at? As I say, I would love to have my garbage collected twice a week rather than once; but I have adapted to it. So I would like to fi nd out whether, then (the post office), the idea of collections perhaps twice a week has been considered, bearing in mind we all know that with emails and all sorts of other stuff, the amount of mail that is being delivered. And if it is any real mail, it is usually what I call solici ting mail rather than bills, et cetera. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So basically, I think I can answer some of the questions here. There are about six million [pieces of] mail annually. The costs have been reduced by 50 per cent over the last 10 years. Deliveries . . . and they do …
Thank you, Member. Minister.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So basically, I think I can answer some of the questions here. There are about six million [pieces of] mail annually. The costs have been reduced by 50 per cent over the last 10 years. Deliveries . . . and they do deliveries through many parts of it. So not only are they working in town, but they may also work in another sub- post office around Bermuda. So they do things differently. Do we need to improve and get better eff iciency? We do. So I agree with that part.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there a question? I recognise the Member from constituency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: And I am going to ask the other question, partially because if these things have been considered, then the public will get to know that it has been. And if not, then hopefully it will. …
Is there a question? I recognise the Member from constituency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: And I am going to ask the other question, partially because if these things have been considered, then the public will get to know that it has been. And if not, then hopefully it will. Bearing in mind in terms of I do not think postmen are delivering as much mail, the second thing is, why do we now, in the age of reduction in terms of using mail, still have to have a sub- post office in every location? And when I say in every location that it is now, why do we need to still have sub- post offices? And the reason I am asking is because if there is an opportunity to have one area covering a larger area, and if you then have the mail being di stributed perhaps not as many days as it was, then one would think that there is an opportunity to reduce costs. Because having a post office means that you have to not only have the people who are there, you have the upkeep of the post office itself. So I wondered whether the Ministry and the post office people have looked at whether there is any opportunity to start to reduce the number of sub- post offices and then reduce the mail delivery so that more people are then able to go and deliver the mail and we can reduce the costs and the expenditure.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Member. Minister, would you like to answer that question now? [No audible response]
The ChairmanChairmanI am going to recognise the Member from constituency 10. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister, just appreciate the volume for the last year, I guess. You said six million pieces. I know that the post office probably has the information, because I am sure they look …
I am going to recognise the Member from constituency 10. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister, just appreciate the volume for the last year, I guess. You said six million pieces. I know that the post office probably has the information, because I am sure they look at it. But could you endea vour to get the information, say, for the last five years? How much has mail volume declined year in and year out? I think that will help get a better understanding. They should be able to tell quite quickly that, on average, 4 [per cent] or 5 per cent a year.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: You are absolutely right, Member. We will get that information to you and try to get a more accurate number, even percentage- wise. But you ta lked about cost reduction. And that is something that we are doing. But you also have the opportunity to provide a service in those particular sub-post offices, which is not currently being provided right now. As you know, right now you have to come
Bermuda House of Assembly to Ham ilton to pay for your dog licence, your cat l icence, your boat licence and your driver’s licence. But we can provide services within the sub- post offices, charge revenue and gain other revenues, that are cur-rently not being provided. As a matter of fact, we have facilities that can be worked even more efficiently, other than right now everybody going into over there by Venture . . . not Venture, Mills Creek. Mills Creek, where FedEx has one location, per say. And we are able to find a way to provide more s ervice in the sub- post office. We are just saying. But it is something that we can look at. But at this moment, we are looking at more how we can provide service to people within those, so granny is not leaving Hamilton Parish every five minutes, jumping on a bus, and walking over to Mills Creek to get her mail. Or she does not have to go down to pay for her dog, cat or rat cat. I said rat cat ; yes, you are right . But come to Hamilton Parish. So you get concerned about the people. You will be concerned ab out providing a service closer to them, where they do not have to be going back and forward every five minutes.
The ChairmanChairmanI recognise the Member from consti tuency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Madam Chairman, I guess this seems to be inconsistent and in opposition to a statement that was made earlier from the point of view of saying that there was going to be the opportunity of having people …
I recognise the Member from consti tuency 19.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Madam Chairman, I guess this seems to be inconsistent and in opposition to a statement that was made earlier from the point of view of saying that there was going to be the opportunity of having people pay all their bills at one place, et cetera. And there was a suggestion that it was the post office, you know. So what I am trying to say is that if you are trying to have streamlining where people are going to the post office, per se, then things where granny or somebody else might go to the sub- post office, then might not need to go there because someone else will go to the post office and deal with it. So all I am just saying is that we have to be careful that we do not do something which is incon-sistent with something else. If you are trying to say that all the government things can be done at a place, then maybe fewer things will need to be done at a sub-post office, and therefore the justification for a sub-post office might not be as great as it has been in the past. And I just would like to think that the Minister and his technical team will perhaps consider this. Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Member. Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, you know the Honourable Member had five years to do what she wanted to do. The direction we are heading is where we are. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: That is right. And so …
Thank you, Member. Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, you know the Honourable Member had five years to do what she wanted to do. The direction we are heading is where we are. [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: That is right. And so right now everybody . . . everyone can go online in their house and pay for their car licence —everyone. Right? So there are 33,000 whatever homes, about 33,000 homes, you can go there. We are saying that we are going to provide some services within the subpost office that allow individuals to go to their sub- post offices, which will raise additional revenue on behalf of the post office, hence shrinking the deficit between what the government spends and what the gover nment collects. That is the direction we are headed. The direction you were headed was nowhere, because that is where you went —nowhere.
The ChairmanChairmanI am going to recognise the Member from constituency 20
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThank you, Madam Chai rman, I just have a quick question. So when you were talking about sort of consolidating or centralising bill payment, you had mentioned in your brief that there were like six legacy computer systems. And I am on page C -9, line 76663, Computer Equipment. I …
Thank you, Madam Chai rman, I just have a quick question. So when you were talking about sort of consolidating or centralising bill payment, you had mentioned in your brief that there were like six legacy computer systems. And I am on page C -9, line 76663, Computer Equipment. I see last year there was some $24,000 that was spent. Is that for the switching from the six legacy systems into one system that you quot-ed in your brief? And is this system, this new system, going to be able to allow or accommodate for this centralised payment? Or would we have to purchase additional equipment in order to go to a sub- post office and pay the dog licence, the cat licence, the car l icence, the boat mooring? It is C -9, yes. And there is Computer Equi pment P urchase, 76663. So last year there was a good bit spent on computer equipment, but I am just curious what this taking six legacy systems and purchasing one system or . . . I am just trying to get some clarity on the computerisation of the post office, especially around this, going to be able to pay everything in one place.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, I believe I mentioned something about it in the actual brief. I am trying to find it right now. Just give me one minute. [Pause] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So what I mentioned was the Bermuda Post Office capital expenditure budget for …
Minister, yes.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, I believe I mentioned something about it in the actual brief. I am trying to find it right now. Just give me one minute. [Pause] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So what I mentioned was the Bermuda Post Office capital expenditure budget for 2020/21 can be found on page C -9; that is what you are talking about. Of the capital acquisition estimates, Schedule C, the Bermuda Post Of fice has been all ocated an amount of $27,450 (that is what you mentioned), the purchase of a cancelling machine, the 3468 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly computer, and the computer equipment. This compares to the revised 2019/20 allocation of . . . [Pause] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: RMIS AS400, IPS, File Pro P.O. box system. And that will all be replaced by the Swift system. Yes. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Right, the Swift system. The Swift system allows —
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberIt is more comprehensive. Hon. Wayne L. Furber t: Yes; more efficient for the government. But within the department itself it allows some of that work that we talked about for gover nment, paying services at the post office can be done through that Swift system.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThank you. So with all of the proposed changes, I just want to reflect on B -49. The total expenditure for the post office is about $10.5 million in expenses. But yet, they are right now only earning about $4 million in revenue eac h year. So last year and …
Thank you. So with all of the proposed changes, I just want to reflect on B -49. The total expenditure for the post office is about $10.5 million in expenses. But yet, they are right now only earning about $4 million in revenue eac h year. So last year and this year, there has been lots of optimistic conversation about looking at things like online shopping and improving the express mail maybe, those kinds of things. With the 134 members of staff, what kind of retraining, retooling . . I would imagine that there is going to have to be some restructuring if the model of the post office is going to change, become a little more technical. And so I am just curious whether, one, any of the staff will be i mpacted, as listed on page B -51? An d two, what kind of projected revenue you are hoping to actually make to try to balance, at least, so that . . . I mean, it is going to take a while for us to earn $10 million in revenue to balance off our expenses. But it is just a huge loss every year. A nd it looks as though this has been the case for the last few years, at least —at least in this book. So, you know, are we expecting that we are going to earn additional revenue? And what kind of projected revenue numbers are we looking at with the introduction of these new services? And are the 134 members of staff going to be retooled, reorganised in order to accommodate and meet all of these new ser-vices that you are proposing?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, first of all let me just say that the staffing level has come down considerably over the years. We do not plan to cut staff. I am not sure if that is the objective of the One Bermuda Alliance. Oh, you are not …
Minister.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, first of all let me just say that the staffing level has come down considerably over the years. We do not plan to cut staff. I am not sure if that is the objective of the One Bermuda Alliance. Oh, you are not planning to cut staff? So you are happy with the staff num bers? So we are, too. [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Right. So . . . no, well, do not be too concerned. The point is I was not sure whether you were saying that you were going to cut the staff. No? Okay. All right, because that is the biggest chunk of expenses within the post office. So the post office is providing a service. And the service consists of 134 fulltime, per se, staff. And as time goes on . . . and I will tell you, some of the staff work under a lot of pressure, because I am sure there are many forms that have come across my desk for hiring additional staff. We are still looking at some of them. Some of them we will approve; some we will not approve. But I am very grateful for the service that the post office staff are act ually doing. And so what we are trying to do, based on the numbers that are there, is say what can we do to pr ovide more service to find a way to close the gap between revenue and expenses? Will we get there? I do not know. You know, probably not. But what we are trying to do is no different from the other services we provide. As you know, the bus service . . . I have ne ver found a way to close the gap, no matter how you talk about it. But there are services that the Government believes have to be provided. What we did over the years (I think this stuff probably started under yourselves), we probably closed some of the post offices, three post offices. Okay? So those are some of the things that you have done. What you did not do is r emove all of the post offices, as the Honourable Mem-ber Jeanne Atherden is talking about.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Point of order, Madam Chairman.
POINT OF ORDER
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I did not suggest closing all of them. All I suggested was to look at the rational isation of how many post offices you could use. The same way in other countries where you have a little hub that can service a catchment area, you do the exact same thing with the post office. And I know that the Minister is capable of doing that. So I am just c hallenging him to give it a shot. Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I understand what the Honourable Member is saying. But what I am saying is, Bermuda House of Assembly they felt that [closing] three post offices was sufficient. That i s what they did. They closed three post offices. And so the numbers …
Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I understand what the Honourable Member is saying. But what I am saying is,
Bermuda House of Assembly they felt that [closing] three post offices was sufficient. That i s what they did. They closed three post offices. And so the numbers that remain they felt was the right number. That is what I am assuming. If not, they would have done four or five or six. But they did not. So we are happy right now, and as we go on to build money, to see how things are going. But what we plan to do is provide better service within the sub-post offices. Now, what we are doing as far as revenue, I mentioned at the very beginning that a report is being done by KPMG looking at a three- year plan for a business plan. And so those numbers are not currently in the budget. Once the plan has been done, I will probably make a Statement in the House to say, This is what it looks like. These are some of the efficiencies we are going to be working on. But what I did not want to do is give you a false . . . just a number. I mean, I could have put in a number and said, Okay, we’re going to get $50,000 or $100,000 or whatever. And then next year you are going to say, Well, you didn’t get the number.
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Right. So that is why. So KPMG is doing a three- year plan. Hopefully, that plan will be done sometime in the next four weeks to six weeks. I know that they are flying in an individual to have a meeting with all the staff for half - a-day, with myself and probably the PS, and looking at what, as far as putting numbers together . . . because it is not putting numbers together, but what those different things look like within the post office. So will we close the gap? You and I will not be here when that happens, if it does. The time may change. Other ways, like I said, right now we move from mailing to WhatsApp to Messenger to whatever it is. The young generation . . . times change. And as the time changes, the G overnment will change with that.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Minister. I recognise the Member from C -20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonAnd so my final question, or area of questioning around Head 13 for the Post O ffice, page B -49, is under Rentals. So yes, a couple of years ago the post office processing unit moved out into the new Venture buil ding. And we are paying an annual rental …
And so my final question, or area of questioning around Head 13 for the Post O ffice, page B -49, is under Rentals. So yes, a couple of years ago the post office processing unit moved out into the new Venture buil ding. And we are paying an annual rental cost of $332,000. I am just curious whether the Government has made any moves or has had any thoughts about moving out of that building, or what might come of the general post office, which is relatively quiet as far as customer volume and traffic, of people, are con-cerned? And what we might be able to do to find some efficiencies there through building? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Good observation. The Mi nistry of Cabinet Office and the Ministry of Works and Engineering are having a discussion now in particular with that regard. If we are able to find a way to move the processing back to town, then of course we save X amount of dollars. But that conversation is going on right now with the Ministry of Works, between the two PS’s, on how we can make things work better.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThank you, Madam Chai rman. I just had one or two questions on Head 14, Department of Statistics. I guess the big question rea lly for statistics is all about timing. And so, you know, I am just curious. There was quite a bit said about the time frame of …
Thank you, Madam Chai rman. I just had one or two questions on Head 14, Department of Statistics. I guess the big question rea lly for statistics is all about timing. And so, you know, I am just curious. There was quite a bit said about the time frame of collec ting data and when it is released to the public. And I am just wondering whether there are any improvements that are going to be made. I do not know. Let us see, under B -55, the Core Statistics and Publications, 24020. What changes or improv ements might be made in the future to reduce the time from data collection to data release to the public?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Well, I mean, I do not have the information. But just thinking about technology, technology always finds a way to im prove inefficiencies within departments. For instance, every month we have people going into the fields, particularly let us say grocery stores, collecting items as …
Minister.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Well, I mean, I do not have the information. But just thinking about technology, technology always finds a way to im prove inefficiencies within departments. For instance, every month we have people going into the fields, particularly let us say grocery stores, collecting items as far as price is concerned. We are looking at other ways of collecting that information whi ch may be readily available, which could cost . . . which would improve efficiency of not allo wing the staff to go out in the fields. But there are things we are looking at currently right now to see if that can work. That is just on retail sales.
The Cha irman: Would any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency —
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: And another thing to say, and that is where technology comes in.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, are you going to finish a nswering the question? Hon. W ayne L. Furbert: Yes. I am sorry.
The ChairmanChairmanThat is okay. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So I mentioned about tec hnology. But so, the department has purchased 18 tab3470 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly lets which will streamline data collection and pr ocessing, particularly for retail sales, I am assuming.
The ChairmanChairmanI recognise the Member from consti tuency 20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonYes. So I am just staying with 24020, Core Statistics. So then, if we purchased and increased our number of tablets so that we can electronically collect the data, which would then be quickly downloaded or exported into some sort of programme that would push out the results a lot …
Yes. So I am just staying with 24020, Core Statistics. So then, if we purchased and increased our number of tablets so that we can electronically collect the data, which would then be quickly downloaded or exported into some sort of programme that would push out the results a lot faster, is there any move to introduce surveys that are sent directly to respondents? And so, the survey respondent is actually just answering the questions online, or are we already doing that? I mean, I do not want to take away from humans going out into the field with tablets and asking questions. But the ability to just quickly do an online survey . . . I do not have any knowledge on the met hodology and the ways in which the Department of St atistics collects its data. So I have to ask these general questions for understanding.
The ChairmanChairmanYes. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: A lot of surveys are being done within the department. The employment survey tabulations, we do not have people going out in the fields. That information is completed by the employer. There is other information that we may gather that is really done by …
The ChairmanChairmanI recognise the Member from consti tuency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Madam Chairman. This is on page B -56. It is indicating under the Performance Measures, new tables in the environmental statistics compendium compiled to reduce data gaps as per the United Nations Statistical Division’s recommendation by …
I recognise the Member from consti tuency 19.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Madam Chairman. This is on page B -56. It is indicating under the Performance Measures, new tables in the environmental statistics compendium compiled to reduce data gaps as per the United Nations Statistical Division’s recommendation by December 2020. It is indicating that there are two new tables. I wonder if the Minister would do two things for us. One, indicate what the two new tables are, and also indicate to us whether there are any further t ables that we need to introduce in order to reduce the gap, as recommended by the United Nations Statistics Division.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Ok. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThank you. On line 24025, there is a mention of the core annual survey. What are those surveys? What are those core annual surveys? Can you list them for me?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, would you like to answer the question? Hon. Wayne L . Furbert: Sorry, you said number what? What number?
Ms. Susan E. JacksonIt is on B -55 and it is line item 24025. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Right. So, that is annual surveys. We did an annual . . .
The ChairmanChairmanI think it says annual. Hon. Wayne L. Fu rbert: Just one minute— [Pause] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, we do an annual Bermuda digest of statistics, Bermuda job markets, employment briefs, employment survey tabulation, ann ual gross domestic product (these is annual stuff), the tourist satellite ac count report …
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberTourists. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Tourists is one of them. I nformation communication and technology profile. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Information communication and technology profile.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any other . . . Minister , have you finished answering the question? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I have answered most of the questions. But besides, there was the question that the Honourable Member had mentioned about the —
The ChairmanChairmanThere was a qu estion from the— Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, the Member asked about new tables in the environmental statistics compendium compiled to reduce . . . just a moment. [Pause] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, we do not have that i nformation at this time, but we …
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Ministe r. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 20. Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Susan E. Jackson: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. So, I would like to move on to Head . . . hold on, we have done that one.
The ChairmanChairmanWe are not doing 26. You mean 61? It starts on B -70.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonHere it is. Head 61, Depar tment of Employee and Organisational Development. So, I would like to be gin with the employee numbers on B -71 and the . . . so, in the brief it was explained that there were staff members that had been moved from management services …
Here it is. Head 61, Depar tment of Employee and Organisational Development. So, I would like to be gin with the employee numbers on B -71 and the . . . so, in the brief it was explained that there were staff members that had been moved from management services and the A ccountant General’s office, I think, yes, to move into the employee and organisational development. Now, will they move in with new job descriptions? Are they going to, you know, is their actual pay scale changing? What will be different about them moving from one department to the new employee and organisational development? Will they have a completely different job description now?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Sorry . . . no. Right now, the compensation falls under the Accountant General. Management Consultant service falls under the employee organisational development . So, now those two units will fall directly under that employee and organisational development structure. That is where they will be. …
Minister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Sorry . . . no. Right now, the compensation falls under the Accountant General. Management Consultant service falls under the employee organisational development . So, now those two units will fall directly under that employee and organisational development structure. That is where they will be. So, the transition of that group will eventually move ––as I mentioned earlier, other human resource departments, such as , fire, public works, and ever ybody else who is separate–– all of that will fall, event ually, under that employee and organisational deve lopment under the budgets part next year.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Ministe r. I recognise the Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonSo, do those separate HR areas or departments in each one of those Ministries, presently kind of come under the umbrella of the department of human resources? It seems like we have got a duplication of efforts right now. We have got the department of human resources, which is functioning …
So, do those separate HR areas or departments in each one of those Ministries, presently kind of come under the umbrella of the department of human resources? It seems like we have got a duplication of efforts right now. We have got the department of human resources, which is functioning at full speed. So, their expenditure is close to $4 million. And then we have got the department of employee and organisational development, which is right now probably about $2 million. I am just curious where all those satellite HR people . . . so the HR at the police, HR at wherever, fire service, they are all going to come into the d e-partment of employee and organisational development. So, what happens with the department of human resources? Is that . . . that is going to move into . . . so next year this will not be Head, 26, for a depar tment of human resources. That will be phased out. Okay. All right.
[Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. JacksonSo, what . . . I mean, I know that you are talking about efficiencies and streamli ning, but what actually is really going to be that fundamentally different about bringing everybody in under an umbrella?
The ChairmanChairmanHold on one second. Minister , can you take your seat? You can speak to the speaker, that is fine. Continue.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonSo, Madam Chairman, I am just wondering what will be fundamentally different about the people who are going to be moving from where they are now into this employee and organis ational development. Now, I get what the vision and focus and some of the quite ambitious goals that the …
So, Madam Chairman, I am just wondering what will be fundamentally different about the people who are going to be moving from where they are now into this employee and organis ational development. Now, I get what the vision and focus and some of the quite ambitious goals that the employee and organisational development department has es-pecially around government reform, but I am just cur ious what they are hoping to achieve by bringing all of the HR member s into this one area.
The ChairmanChairmanOkay, thank you. Minister , are you ready to respond? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, I am.
The ChairmanChairmanOkay. Proceed. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I think you asked the question earlier . . . and when I said no— [Inaudi ble interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, it was “no” because we were talking about budgets. So, there was no change to the budget, because that is what …
Okay. Proceed. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I think you asked the question earlier . . . and when I said no—
[Inaudi ble interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, it was “no” because we were talking about budgets. So, there was no change to the budget, because that is what we are talking about, the budgets. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, but I was talking about no changes to the—
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, you— Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, I understand that. 3472 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly So, because we are on budget numbers, I was [saying] “no” to the budget numbers. But there may be some changes in the actual description and — [Inaudible interjections] …
Minister, you— Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, I understand that. 3472 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly So, because we are on budget numbers, I was [saying] “no” to the budget numbers. But there may be some changes in the actual description and —
[Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert:— new reporting lines. But as far as the actual budget numbers . . . sorry as far as pay, [there are] no new pay scales. So, what is the benefit of bringing all of these departments . . . human resources, because right now human resources are provided by every government department, as I mentioned earlier. You name it, they are there. So, when a person asked me what took so long for someone to get hired, the first thing you think of is human resources loc ated . . . I think it is at the [Ingham and] Wilkinson [Building]. But it is not neces-sary because every department, Ministry . . . not every department, but practically every Minist ry has a human resources [department]. That is for the whole . . . well, it could be, not down at Ingham and Wilkinson Building.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: That is where the human resource . . . ain’t it Wilkinson? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Where are we located? I do not know where we are located.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberBack behind you. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, over on Front Street . . . maybe we are talking about Front Street. So, they are . . . when you say there is a hold up, everyone thinks of the department of human resources l ocated on Front Street. But …
Back behind you.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, over on Front Street . . . maybe we are talking about Front Street. So, they are . . . when you say there is a hold up, everyone thinks of the department of human resources l ocated on Front Street. But as I had mentioned earlier every –– there are so many human resource departments. So it could be held up in the Bermuda Police Service hu-man resources, it could be held up in Bermuda Fire Service, it could be held up in the Public Works h uman resources department. But right now, by pulling everyone under one unit, which is called the Department of Employee and Organisational Development, there is a centralisation of information, there is more efficiency within gover nment . So the s tructure changes from —and I will show you—a structure like that, I know you cannot see it, to a structure making it more efficient when you pull ev erybody together. As you know, you work for a certain . . . you do not have a human resources [department] f or mortgages, you do not have a human resources department for banking, you do not have a human r esources . . . and that is where you go do your banking at the place . . . you do not have a human resources for other departments. You have one central human resources department, correct? You kind of do. All the banks have their human resources departments that fall under one thing, [one office], [and everyone] r eports to it, I would have thought. But that is the way we are going to be doing it. So, all human resources will fall under the human resources organisational structure. Did I explain that properly?
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am going to page B -72. [Here] there is an indication that this department is going to, it says operational and organisational needs analysis conducted across government, …
Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am going to page B -72. [Here] there is an indication that this department is going to, it says operational and organisational needs analysis conducted across government, and it says target outcome of 30. So, what I need to understand is, does that mean that there are only 30 organisations in the government ? Or if there are more than 30 organisations, or depar tments within government , how many of them are there so that we can understand the percentage of government departments that are going to have operational and organisational needs analysis conducted? And then I have a second question after that.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberA second one? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Shall I give you the next one? Okay. The second question after that relates to facilitate completion of strategic plans by depar tment and that target outcome is 20. Now, that gets back to my first question. If 30 was the whole depar …
A second one? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Shall I give you the next one? Okay. The second question after that relates to facilitate completion of strategic plans by depar tment and that target outcome is 20. Now, that gets back to my first question. If 30 was the whole depar tment, maybe, then why is 20 the number that you are going to say it is okay to do in terms of strategic plans? So, the bottom line is how many departments are there in government so that we can understand how the 30 and 20 relate to addressing all the needs of government , whether this is 10 per cent, 20 per cent or 100 percent.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I will get that information. Just give me just one minute.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Bermuda House of Assembly There are approximately 50 departments. So, management consultant service will provide . . . when you looked at it, there are 30 there, it is to provide service or reviews for 30 departments. Hon. Jeanne J. …
Minister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Madam Chai rman.
Bermuda House of Assembly There are approximately 50 departments. So, management consultant service will provide . . . when you looked at it, there are 30 there, it is to provide service or reviews for 30 departments.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thirty of the 50?
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. Management consul tant service to assist 20 departments with aligning str ategic pla ns.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Twenty of the 50?
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Right.
The ChairmanChairmanDo you have a supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Supplement, sorry. Yes, I guess it is supplementary. I guess my question [would be], is this because the other departments are going to be done next year? And what would happen to them during the current year? Because I know that …
Do you have a supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Supplement, sorry. Yes, I guess it is supplementary. I guess my question [would be], is this because the other departments are going to be done next year? And what would happen to them during the current year? Because I know that this was very important, this is something very i mportant. And so the second question is, which 20 of the 50 will get done? Which 30 of the 50 will get done? What is the basis on which this number was chosen, bearing in mind it is not 100 per cent?
The ChairmanChairmanMiniste r? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Sorry, as the Honourable Member will be aware, that you cannot do everything all at once. So, the MCS has said that reasonably we can do X amount at a certain time. So, for the budget year of 2020/21, we are going to do …
Ministe r?
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Sorry, as the Honourable Member will be aware, that you cannot do everything all at once. So, the MCS has said that reasonably we can do X amount at a certain time. So, for the budget year of 2020/21, we are going to do 30 reviews for those departments and 20 to do strategic plans. That is what they have come up with. That is the target for 2020/21. Now, if they are able to do 21, that is fine. But that is the target for their 2020/21.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonSo, Madam Chairman, one of the motivati ons for the employee and organisational development department, as I understand it, is that there is a Government reform report, which we have all read and debated, and there are a number of actions within that report that this department will spearhead. I …
So, Madam Chairman, one of the motivati ons for the employee and organisational development department, as I understand it, is that there is a Government reform report, which we have all read and debated, and there are a number of actions within that report that this department will spearhead. I am just curious given that everybody is going to be transferring from their satellite HR into this area, and they still have their work that they have to do, and they have their performance measurements . . . I am just curious how some of the initiatives for the go vernment reform are going to fall into that given that these are some big ticket items here from the government reform. Right? The Chairman: Are you finished with your question, Member ? Minister —
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: To be honest, I am not quite sure what the Member is asking, because when you say transferred to the satellite . . . are you saying they are going to transfer from their department to Front Street, for example? Is that what you are saying? What are you saying?
Ms. Susan E. Jack sonWell, I think I am confirming that the Minister had said that all of the different HR representatives in all of the different departments around the civil service will now come in, and maybe by next year there will be a full complement of HR represent atives in the Department …
Well, I think I am confirming that the Minister had said that all of the different HR representatives in all of the different departments around the civil service will now come in, and maybe by next year there will be a full complement of HR represent atives in the Department of Employee and O rganisational Development. But those, all of those HR members of staff, you have also said will have the same job descriptions, their pay scales and the like will remain the same. So now I am just curious how all of the initi atives of the government reform are going to be actioned given that there is still business as usual that needs to be carried out. And we all know well within any business or department that there are always i mprovements that can be made. So, w hile everybody is scrambling to, you know, reduce the time that it takes to recruit a person, making sure that, you know, intr oducing staff programmes and all of the other internal communications and programmes that HR does, how is there going to be capaci ty to spearhead all of these government reform initiatives, some of which are quite meaty?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister ? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: First of all, we had reported that there will be new job descriptions. And we also look at as far as — [Inaudible in terjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, I said “no” to pay. That is what I said. I am going to …
Minister ?
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: First of all, we had reported that there will be new job descriptions. And we also look at as far as —
[Inaudible in terjections]
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, I said “no” to pay. That is what I said. I am going to repeat it again so the Honour able Member can hear me finally. I said no new pay scales. But new reporting lines are going to take place. You must agree that by . . . and I said this also. Not every human resources department may end up on Front Street. They might be working also within their [present] location. Basically, they can do human resources right in this room here. So, they may be, depending on how i t works, and works with the department and how we can do it, they may end up all in the same location. But right now, they may be in different locations. But they will all report under one structure. And the structure as I 3474 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly have reported here; it will fall under Chief Human R esource and Organisational Development Officer. And then there will be a Deputy Chief Business Partner and Centre of Expertise, and a Deputy Chief of Services. So, that one chief, two deputies, and ever ybody, will report up under those t wo deputies event ually to the chief. Right now, the human resources do not report . . . they report to probably a PS within the Ministry. Hence, why right now we believe that by joining them under this top heading as we mentioned just now, there is more efficiency within the government services.
The ChairmanChairmanI recognise the Member from consti tuency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Madam Chairman, I have to say from the outset that I personally support the idea of having all the HR people together because of the benefits of making sure that there is consistency developing people, et cetera. So, …
I recognise the Member from consti tuency 19.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Madam Chairman, I have to say from the outset that I personally support the idea of having all the HR people together because of the benefits of making sure that there is consistency developing people, et cetera. So, any questions that I am asking, I want to make sure that it is in that framework. So—
[Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Keep going? Okay. So, when I look at the performance measures that say only 30 of the 50 departments are going to have operational organisation needs analysis conducted, and then only 20 of the 50 are going to have completion of strategic plans, two things cross my mind. Do the 30 over here get the operational efficiency and the other 20 get strategic plans, in which case neither one of them is having the benefit of what they need? Or why aren’t the people that are getting the operational needs analysis done also getting the complet ion of the strategic plans? It just seems to me that it would be better to have one group getting everything from the point of view of strategic analysis as well as organisational competence—
The ChairmanChairmanCompetency. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Competency . Yes, an yway, my brain is gone. But, you know, what I am trying to say is that it just seems strange. You have 50. Thirty are going to get needs and the other are going to have competencies. And so it just …
Competency. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Competency . Yes, an yway, my brain is gone. But, you know, what I am trying to say is that it just seems strange. You have 50. Thirty are going to get needs and the other are going to have competencies. And so it just seems strange that if you cannot do them all that you do not get at least one group having the two things that complement each other. The strategic planning aspect of it and the competencies go together, and it just seems one the 30 and one 20 . . . so 30 of the first group do not get it and 20 of the others do not get it. It just . . . I just wo ndered why this gap. And if the Minister could explain . . . I know you said that you cannot have it all at once. But if you have one group not getting the complemen-tary side of it that would help them, I just w onder why.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister — Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Do I need to repeat that? Or you got it? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, I got it. So the Government says out of the 5,000 . . . I am going to use this as an example. Out of the 5,000 employees, we …
Minister —
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Do I need to repeat that? Or you got it? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, I got it. So the Government says out of the 5,000 . . . I am going to use this as an example. Out of the 5,000 employees, we are going to train 2,000 this year. That does not mean that the other 3,000 are not going to get trained. But that is the target for 2020/21. I do want to emphasise that: that is the target .
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Madam Chairman, this is by department , okay? You say right in here that you are going to deal with the organisational needs anal ysis conducted across the government . So, you are going to take 30 departments and you are going to help them come up with their organisational needs. So, there is n o question about the number of emplo yees . . . [we are talking about] the departments. And then you say that you are going to facilitate compl etion of strategic plans. The strategic plans are going to tie into the organisational needs whether you like it or not.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Honourable Member —
The ChairmanChairmanMinister — Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Sorry.
The ChairmanChairmanI think that the Member is, she is sta ting that they tie in. That is the belief that she has. I do not know, I mean, what you may be wi lling to do is just explain what you are going to do, because I do not think you …
I think that the Member is, she is sta ting that they tie in. That is the belief that she has. I do not know, I mean, what you may be wi lling to do is just explain what you are going to do, because I do not think you can go into the next space of where she may be in her understanding. And, if so, you may have to take that conversation off -line so that you can get a greater understanding of the strategic needs versus the core value. That is what it sounds like . . .
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Amen. Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanOkay. Does any other Member wish to speak?
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThis is probably my last question, Madam Chairman. So, on top of (and I am in performance measurements, B -72) the role that the employee and organisational development department will also play is, I would imagine, negotiations with the unions. And if I Bermuda House of Assembly am correct, there …
This is probably my last question, Madam Chairman. So, on top of (and I am in performance measurements, B -72) the role that the employee and organisational development department will also play is, I would imagine, negotiations with the unions. And if I
Bermuda House of Assembly am correct, there are probably about seven unions, seven collective bargaining [groups]. No? Yes? [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. JacksonOh, okay. And so, you know, this is just another layer. I guess really my bottom line is, one, whether there are the resources, the financial . . . you know, I am just trying to get a feel for whether this department is going to float, given the heavy …
Oh, okay. And so, you know, this is just another layer. I guess really my bottom line is, one, whether there are the resources, the financial . . . you know, I am just trying to get a feel for whether this department is going to float, given the heavy load that it is carrying. Right? And whether in the final analysis, you know, the amount of money that is being allocated here for expenditure is going to be suffic ient, and even if we fold in the department of human resources, they are already doing their business as usual. So, they are still going to have their expenditure no matter what. How is this department really going to be able to function with all of these other layers of responsibilities that they have? And, you know, I am just looking at the viabi lity of this department and making sure that next year we are here to budget a department that is, you know, healthy and moving along. So, you know, I just want to make sure that we have the resources —financial and staff —to really accommodate all of the demands of this particular new department in the coming years.
The ChairmanChairmanJust before you rise to your feet, Minister, I just want to say that the time is now 8:25, so we have 15 minutes left in this debate. Minister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The Honourable Member . . . there is one Member on that side saying that it is …
Just before you rise to your feet, Minister, I just want to say that the time is now 8:25, so we have 15 minutes left in this debate. Minister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The Honourable Member . . . there is one Member on that side saying that it is going to be tough, the other Member says she supports the . . . maybe I will suggest that she may want to speak to her counterpart [and] have her explain a little more about why she supports it [but] you have a hes itation on it. But let me just say this, too. The Government is well aware —the Opposition should be well aware— that it is not the hum an resources department that negotiates [with] the unions. It is the Public Service Negotiating Team, PSNT. Some support will be given to them from the department, but the PSNT goes in and does the negotiations, they have been doing that for years. So, tha t is not one of the balls that they will be carrying.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Minister . Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I just have one question, and I guess I was sort of concerned because in this it says identify duplication in the payroll process . And that is …
Thank you, Minister . Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 19.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I just have one question, and I guess I was sort of concerned because in this it says identify duplication in the payroll process . And that is 100 per cent. I would have thought that the Ministry of Finance , or whatever else, should be r e-sponsible for making sure that there is a proper pr ocess in terms of people being hired, being paid, et cetera. Now, if there is something about the hiring process, I could understand that. But, to me, payroll should be a finance issue rather than a human r esources issue. So, I am just curious as to how one identifies payroll and maybe some other aspect of the process which is being refined and defined.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Well, I am sure you do not mean that they are identifying duplications of payroll processes. You are not assuming that they are paying twice. Okay. So, the process . . . and there could be some duplications, as far as the process within Accountant …
Minister?
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Well, I am sure you do not mean that they are identifying duplications of payroll processes. You are not assuming that they are paying twice. Okay. So, the process . . . and there could be some duplications, as far as the process within Accountant General, because it is the compensation department, and with another department, human resources. But by pulling them all together, we can be sure to elim inate a lot of duplication. That is where your efficiency comes in.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: What I want clarity on . . . I can see if you talk about duplication in the hiring process, as opposed to in the paying process. To me, payroll is paying people, and HR is about hiring people. So, I was just curious about when it said duplic ation in the payroll process whether we had clearly d efined the part of the process that was going to be i nvestigated.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister ? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: All right. You can look at the actual . . . if you look at the actual line 71010, it talks about compensation. So, what we are doing is putting all the compensation within that organisation.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member . . . Minister , first of all, are you finished responding to the question? Yes? Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThank you. I just cannot quite let this go just yet. There is a description . . . and, you know, I would like to think that the performance measures on B-72 will increase as this department develops. But one of the Government Senators had said that there will be …
Thank you. I just cannot quite let this go just yet. There is a description . . . and, you know, I would like to think that the performance measures on B-72 will increase as this department develops. But one of the Government Senators had said that there will be . . . that this new structuring will have industrial and employee relations. It will reduce time to recruit. It will modernise the workforce training and—
The ChairmanChairmanExcuse me one second, Member. What are you referring to? 3476 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Susan E. Jackson: Well, I am just referring to a quote that came from a Senator. [Inaudible interjec tions]
Ms. Susan E. JacksonMarch 27, 2019. So, if these tasks are going to be carried out, these exercises, then will they be included, and will this performance measure expand as the department expands and grows? Will you be adding more to the perfor mance measures?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you. This is not easy. All right? We are going through a transition right now regarding reallocation of descriptions as far as putting all these human r esources departments within the Employee and Organisational Development. It is going to take time, and hence why …
Minister?
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you. This is not easy. All right? We are going through a transition right now regarding reallocation of descriptions as far as putting all these human r esources departments within the Employee and Organisational Development. It is going to take time, and hence why we first looked at getting the head person on board first. So, the transition is going to take some time and, yes, yes, yes! Performance measures will increase. But the expectation . . . sometimes though, you will be aware, that we have had performance measures . . . it makes no sense. They just stop there. People copy the same number from last year . . . what they had for the last five years. When we were on the Efficiency Committee, when I was on the Efficiency Committee, we looked at some performance measures, and some things just did not make sense. We are going to make sure that 80 per cent of the people do not fall out of their beds in hospital. What? We are going to make sure 100 [per cent of] people do not fall. I am just using an example. Right? This one talking about putting in a performance measure. We are going to make sure that 85 per cent of the children get to school. What? We are going to make sure 100 per cent, but . . . I do not know what that means by we are going to make sure 85 per cent or 80 per cent . . . I am not saying that is there. I am just [describing] some of the things we may have seen on performance measures. So, will it increase? It is possibl e. Will it stay the same? I do not know. That is where the depar tment says we are going to look at something. We are going through this period right now and we are going to make sure that everybody gets paid on time, 100 per cent. Well, that is what it is supposed to be. Or we are going to make sure that the hiring of staff goes from six months, eight months, down to two months. You got my vote on that one. All right? That is what I am talking about. And so, that is where . . . and so the depar tment will h old them accountable, because we hear of people whose work, whatever it is, applications are stuck in Neverland somewhere, and so you do not know where it is. And people are saying, I have said to the PS many times, so where is . . . I have heard complaint s about that a person’s work application is somewhere. But it is not stuck in human resources. It is stuck somewhere else, another department, and they are working on it. So, these are the types of efficiency improv ements that this organisation . . . so, give it time. Next year you will be able to measure basically where we are. Hopefully, I said, everybody will fall under the department next year, under this Employee and Organ isational Development [Department], and the shared process and everything else w ill––we will have more to say. This is basically the first year that the impl ementation will take place, and I am confident that, under the leadership of the PS Cherie Whitter and the rest of the people, the staff that are there, they will make things work . Okay? Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Minister . Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member ? Minister — Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, Madam Chairman, I move that Heads 13, 14, I will do 51 also, and 61 be approved as printed. The Chairm an: It has moved that Heads 13, …
Thank you, Minister . Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member ? Minister —
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: So, Madam Chairman, I move that Heads 13, 14, I will do 51 also, and 61 be approved as printed.
The Chairm an: It has moved that Heads 13, 14, 51 and 61 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to.
[Motion carried: The Cabinet, Heads 13, 14, 51 and 61 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for t he year 2020/21.]
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move that the Committee rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Commi ttee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress, and sought leave to sit again on Monday , …
It has been moved that the Commi ttee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress, and sought leave to sit again on Monday , 9th March 2020 .]
Bermuda House of Assembly House resumed at 8:36 pm
[Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Deputy Speaker, in the Chair]
REPORT OF COMMITTEE
ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2020/21
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerAre there any objections to the motion? There appear to be none. Approved. The next order of business . . . I think the next order . . . Mr. Somner — [Crosstalk]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerIt is number 3 is it not? Second reading— [Crosstalk]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerRight. The next order of bus iness will be the second reading of the Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020, by the Minister of Finance, Mr. Dickinson. Minister , you have the floor. BILL SECOND READING DIGITAL ASSET ISSUAN CE ACT 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. …
Right. The next order of bus iness will be the second reading of the Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020, by the Minister of Finance, Mr. Dickinson. Minister , you have the floor.
BILL
SECOND READING
DIGITAL ASSET ISSUAN CE ACT 2020
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I move that the Bill ent itled the Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020 be now read the second t ime.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerAny objections? None. Continue. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the purpose of this Bill before you is to facilitate the transfer of the administration and regulation of the digital asset issuance regime [DAI] for merly known as Initial Coin Offering regime from the Registrar of Companies to the …
Any objections? None. Continue.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the purpose of this Bill before you is to facilitate the transfer of the administration and regulation of the digital asset issuance regime [DAI] for merly known as Initial Coin Offering regime from the Registrar of Companies to the Bermuda Monetary Authority. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Bill sets down an enhanced supervisory framework for the oversight of companies that seek authorisation to carry out a digital asset issuance in or from Bermuda. Key comp onents of the framework provide for matters related to public disclosures, offer documents, corporate go vernance, customer protection, cyber security, as well as supervision and enforcement. Mr. Deputy S peaker, Member s are advised that although the responsibility is transferring to the BMA, a substantial portion of the regulatory fram ework has been retained from the regime that was i ntroduced by the Companies and Limited Liability Company (Initial Coin Offering) Amendment Act 2018 . The rationale for this retention is for the legislation to remain closely aligned to its original drafting intent, where possible, so as to provide some stability and comfort to industry by only making changes where it is absolutely necessary to do s o. Mr. Deputy Speaker, in order to provide effective regulatory oversight of the DAI Act regime, the BMA has adopted a tailor -made legislative approach which requires that the legislation provides for all of the regulatory powers that the BMA presently has in its other regulatory acts. Additionally, in an effort to mitigate against delays in the processing of applic ations which can involve large amounts of very tec hnical information, the new Act will introduce the con-cept of accredited digital asset business, or DABs. Presently, DABs are licensed by the BMA u nder the Digital Asset Business Act 2018 to perform certain activities. Given that the expertise in the digital asset field is very limited in Bermuda, the BMA i ntends to leverage the expertise in certain licensed DABs by having them become accredited to perform the vetting of applicants for authorisation to conduct a digital asset issuance. As such, the BMA will introduce and oversee a new accreditation process under a new supporting rule to the new Act. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Member s should be aware that a key change to the new regime involves the fee structure for an authorisation. Previously, all applications for consent attracted a flat fee of $5,000. Honourable Member s are advised that the BMA has opted for an approach which is in line with how it de-termines its other tiered fees by introducing a range of fees between $2,500 and $50,000 based on the size of the issuance and the manner in which the issuance is conducted, that is, whether a company conducts the issuance itself or it utilises the services of a Bermuda licensed and accredited digital asset business. Additionally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Honourable Member s are further advised that the BMA has incorporated globally anti -money laundering standards as set down by the Financial Action Task Force for digital assets. FATF guidance provides that certain activities regarding digital assets should be properly regulated including, but not limited to, digital asset issuances. Accordingly, the DAI Act makes clear that no person can conduct a digital asset issuance in, or from within, Bermuda unless they are authorised by the BMA to do so. Finally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Member s are advised that in the interests of mitigating against u ncertainty in the market, by facilitating a quick transfer of responsibility, the BMA opted for a direct consult ation with industry stakeholders instead of a publi c 3478 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly consultation. The Authority met with key law firms, all of whom supported the idea of the transfer as well as the efforts to make the system more efficient. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker .
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat GordonPamplin. Ms. Pamplin, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Mr. Deputy Speaker, I thank the Minister for the comments that he has made in introducing this …
Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat GordonPamplin. Ms. Pamplin, you have the floor.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Mr. Deputy Speaker, I thank the Minister for the comments that he has made in introducing this Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020. As he has indicated, and as I determined through my study of the Bill, that it is a significant por-tion of what was in the Digital Asset Business Act, the DABA, as Minister Caines’ pet hobby horse. And it kind of almost mirrors in significant portions in terms of how the Bill is laid out and what it is intended to achieve with the exception that instead of this digital assets which came under the Registrar [of Companies] will now transfer under the auspices of th e BMA. We certainly understand the regime that exists at the BMA in terms of how efficiently the BMA actually conducts their affairs and what their consult ation processes are and how they recognise that Be rmuda has a big reputation which it must uphold. And in so doing, the BMA takes all the necessary steps to ensure that we do not do anything that is ultra vires our goal of maintaining the standards for which we have been known. The major difference, in terms of the fee structure, is certainly understan dable. Obviously the BMA, when they have to put themselves in the situation of having to oversee what digital asset businesses are being done, whether they are being conducted, whether they are being done under the auspices of a law firm or an authorised organisation to assist with the introduction of any digital asset company, that obviously it is going to entail different levels of scrutiny and oversight. Therefore, the range of fees is definit ely appropriate. We obviously, as I mentioned, have to look at the key change in this, which is really the structure for the authorisation process. But I think the underlying responsibilities of what the Bill does kind of marries up with what we have learned before as we were doing the Digital Asset Business Act bef ore. So, Bermuda . . . obviously we have our r esponsibility to ensure that our anti -money laundering standards are maintained. And this is the minutiae; that we have to reach that level of granularity to e nsure that we do not slip between the cup and the lip in terms of what we are trying to do. So, we certainly support the introduction of this Digital Asset Issuance Act and when we go through the actual clauses themselves, if there are any specific questions that need to be asked certainly we will have the opportunity to do so at that point in time. But we support this Act. Thank you.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerAny further speakers? The Deputy Speaker recognises the Premier, the Honourable David Burt. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much and good evening to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker .
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerGood evening. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I rise today clearly in support of this Government piece of legisl ation. But I just wanted to make sure that my voice was added to the conversations in this regard, because after hearing the Shadow Minister of Finance and her …
Good evening.
Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I rise today clearly in support of this Government piece of legisl ation. But I just wanted to make sure that my voice was added to the conversations in this regard, because after hearing the Shadow Minister of Finance and her comments here, I just wanted to make sure that it was clear to all that though this process was managed previously by the FinTech Advisory Committee, it al-ways intimately involved Bermuda Monetary Authority. And everything of which we have done inside of the digital asset space has intimately involved the Berm uda Monetary Authority. I recall when I was the Minister of Finance and when we were looking to set up a Digital Asset Regime, the CEO, and now the Executive Chairman of the Bermuda Monetary Authority, made it clear to me that if this was going to be an initiative that was going to be successful by the Government of Berm uda, that we would certainly need to have the Bermuda Monetary Authority on side. I remember other times when I had stood up, not necessarily in this place, but in our regular accommodations across the street, I thanked the Bermuda Monetary Authority for the speed in which they were able to get the Digital Asset Business Act done. Now, hindsight is 20/20. The way in which it was set up originally was to be set up in the quickest fashion possible, which were amendments to the Companies Act [1981] . Though those amendments the Companies Act worked, and though they satisfied the purpose of which they were, because they were for companies that were issued, the ability to issue digital assets from Bermuda, what we did find was that the process itself was cumbersome, and the pr ocess itself relied on volunteers on a FinTech Advisory Committee to review these particular papers. Now, they used the expertise of the Bermuda Monetary Authority, and the Bermuda Monetary A uthority always gave input to this process. But it relied on volunteers from the FinTech Advisory Committee. Now, this was not necessarily a bad thing when you had well -put-together white papers, as they were, for the issuance of digital assets. But when they were paper s that were not put together as well as they needed to be, they ended up causing a lot of chalBermuda House of Assembly lenges with the feedback and the various loops. And there were some clients that were understandably frustrated. And also when you are dealing with volunteers on this Fintech Advisory Committee, it was not something that lent itself the most efficient processing of these particular applications. There was a view from the FinTech team that said that we needed to find out a better way of han-dling this process. And t he view was, given that the Bermuda Monetary Authority is so intimately involved with all the matters, and they have an entire digital assets team at the Bermuda Monetary Authority, it would make sense to transfer the responsibility completely to the Bermuda Monetary Authority. So, that is particularly what this Act does. It is important to recognise that we have been the country . . . Bermuda has been recognised for its pioneering digital asset regime. And it is good to note . . . and it is quite interest ing that there are companies that are being issued licences under our regime, which now are not even coming through the business development efforts of the Government of Bermuda. So, it was very interesting this past week there was a little bit of, I woul d say, consternation amongst the FinTech team itself when the FinTech advisor had sent me a message and he was like, Were you aware that there was another company that was issued a digital asset business licence at the end of February? And I said No, I was not aware and apparently it was this international company which is called IG Bermuda Limited. This is not underneath this particular Act, but under the Digital Asset Business Act. But what that shows is that our law firms in Bermuda and others . . . not through the work of the FinTech business unit, not through the work of the Cabinet Office which runs economic development, not through the work of the business development age ncy, we are actually seeing companies that are looking at our regime and that are looking to domicile their business here. So this company has actually 134,000 employees around the world. They are in 15 countries around the world and they have decided to base their digital asset business in Bermuda. What is important to note that basing digital asset business in Bermuda means that you have to have a representative office here. It cannot just be, you know, with a law firm. You actually have to have people that can be accessed with the Bermuda Monetary Authority. So, we are without question making progress in this area. People are seeing what we have done. The Bermuda Monetary Authority is a key part to this, and I am going to express my gratitude for them wor king through this process to make sure they took over this responsibility. It has not been easy. Without question, it has taken a lot longer than what would have [been ex-pected]. It has caused some challenges inside of the marketplace, waiting for this particular transition to happen because of the challenges of which we are exper iencing with the FinTech Advisory Committee. But it is the hope with the passage of this in this place, and soon in another place, that this will be able to be brought into effect and the Bermuda Monetary Authority will be able to handle all aspects of digital asset business in Bermuda. And that is certainly something that is welcome. So, it is very simple. You live, you learn; we get these things right, we get some things not so right. We realise what we do. We fix it to make it work better and more effic iently. And I think that this is going to be a great step. And as we are seeing the steps of which we are making [on] the digital asset business front, as we are recognising the jobs that are being created, as we are recognising the new businesses which ar e coming to Bermuda and creating themselves and domiciling on these shores, there is nothing but pos itives from the work of which we have done. I will recall, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that this was criticised by some when we started. And the fact is that other governments may have been deterred by the criticism. But this Government is not going to be deterred by the criticism because we know what we are doing in this area is right. We have seen it from the response in the international market. We have seen it f rom the response from our law firms here that are working to drum up this business and that are continuing to work with us to develop this regime, and we can proudly call ourselves leaders in the digital asset space and we are going to continue to modify our regime to make sure that we are going to be leaders in the digital asset space as it is going to the f uture. Right now, we issue stocks and bonds in a regular fashion. We can remember way before when stocks and bonds were originally issued, and they were issued on pieces of paper. Now, they are through electronic trading systems. Now, we are going to have digital assets that are going to represent this. And programmable money and programmable assets and the merging of value and data at the same points in time is going to have a transformational effect on the way in which all of us operate. We are leaders in this space and we should be proud of the work that this Government has done and proud of the work that the FinTech business unit has done and proud of the work that the Bermuda Monetary Authority has done. So, I just want to lend my thanks to the entire team in all those departments who have worked tir elessly. And as this will lead to the end of the FinTech Advisory Committee, I want to thank the vol unteers of the FinTech Advisory Committee which was chaired by Justice Cheryl -Ann Mapp and others for the work of which they have done. It was volunteer work. It was good work, and they served the country well and we should be very thankful for their servi ce. 3480 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker .
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerAre there any further speakers? Minister — Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I move that the Bill be committed.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerHonourable Member , Mrs. Ming — House in Committee at 8:53 pm COMMITTEE ON BILL [Mrs. Renee Ming, Chairman] DIGITAL ASSET ISSUAN CE ACT 20 20
The ChairmanChairmanHonourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for the further consideration of the Bill entitled Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. This Bill seeks …
Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for the further consideration of the Bill entitled Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. This Bill seeks to make provision f or the Bermuda Monetary Authority to regulate persons carrying on an offer of digital assets via a digital asset iss uance and for the protection of the interests of digital asset acquirers or potential digital asset acquirers. I move clauses 1 through 10.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that clauses 1 through 10 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? Does any Member wish to speak? No objection. Agreed to. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 1 is self - explanatory. Clause 2 provides definitions including “digital asset acquirer,” “digital asset issuance,” “digital …
It has been moved that clauses 1 through 10 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? Does any Member wish to speak? No objection. Agreed to.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 1 is self - explanatory. Clause 2 provides definitions including “digital asset acquirer,” “digital asset issuance,” “digital asset issuance document” and “digital asset issuance pla tform.” Clause 3 provides for the interpretation of the terms “director,” “controller,” “senior executive” and “associate.” Clause 4 provides for the interpretation of the phrase “conducting digital asset issuances in Berm uda”. Subsection (3) empowers the Minister of Finance, acting on the advice of the Authority, to make an order subject to the negative resolution procedure, spec ifying the circumstances in which a person is to be r e-garded as carrying on, or not carrying on, such bus iness in Bermuda. Clause 5 defines “issuance of digital assets to the public.” Clause 6 defines “qualified acquirer” for the purposes of that definiti on. Clause [7] requires the Authority to publish a statement of principles. This statement is to indicate to persons conducting a digital asset issuance how the Authority proposes to carry out certain aspects of its licensing and supervisory functions. Thi s clause also provides the Authority to publish guidance on the application of the Bill and regulations made under it. Clause 8 empowers the Authority to issue codes of conduct. Persons carrying on a digital asset issuance are required to observe these cod es of conduct. A failure to observe the codes of conduct could lead to regulatory sanctions. Clause 9 empowers the Authority to make Rules requiring returns to be filed by an authorised undertaking within the period prescribed on its authorisation and kept for five years at its local registered office or the office of its local representative. Failure to comply can lead to imposition of a civil penalty. Clause 10 makes provision for the Authority to modify or exempt authorised undertakings from the requirem ents of the Act and Rules and empowers the Authority to take the necessary or other actions in r elation to the business or operations of authorised u ndertakings.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes anybody wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just wish to refer to clause 8, and that is with respect to the codes of conduct. So, this indicates that the Authority may issue …
Does anybody wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just wish to refer to clause 8, and that is with respect to the codes of conduct. So, this indicates that the Authority may issue codes of conduct in connection with the manner by wh ich the authorised undertaking shall carry on the digital asset issuance. And the question is, Is there likely to be a templated standardisation of the codes of conduct or are the codes of conduct likely to be developed in r elation to each company, specifi c to that company? And then, you know, will those conditions, terms and conditions, be placed on them by the BMA. I just wondered whether . . . normally, with the manner in which the BMA operates, certainly in the other space with which I was more familiar at the time, the Monetary Authority would send out position papers and then they would get feedback and stuff. So, this is not that kind of organisation inasmuch as each of the digital asset companies is going to be different than the next. So, I am just wondering if the Authority is going to be sending out specific codes of conduct so that any company that is operating in this space will have a very clear understanding of exactly what is, not just required of them, but what will be permitted of
Bermuda House of Assembly them in being an issuer of digital assets, you know, under this Act. Also on clause 6, starting on page 9, where they speak about the qualified acquirers, I wonder if the Minister could just . . . I guess I just wanted to make sure that I fully understand what is being determined as a qualified acquirer. There are different terms and conditions, high income, private acquirer, but what makes that determination of a high income, private acquirer? Who makes that determination? Is there a threshold over which somebod y falls into that category? Or is it by method, by some determination that the Monetary Authority will look at it and say, yes, this person qual ifies? Is it if somebody has $5 million? Is it somebody who has $10 million? Is it somebody who has $1 mi llion? Is it somebody . . . like, what would be that threshold that we would make the determination as to what qualifies as being a high income, private acqui rer? Those are my questions.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? Minister? Hon. Curti s L. Dickinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. In response to the Member ’s first question about whether the code would be customised to each issuer, the answer to that is no. The code will apply to the regime. So, there …
Does any other Member wish to speak? Minister?
Hon. Curti s L. Dickinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. In response to the Member ’s first question about whether the code would be customised to each issuer, the answer to that is no. The code will apply to the regime. So, there will be a set of standards that will ap ply to all companies that apply for a licence to be a digital asset issuer by the BMA. With respect to the second question around qualified acquirers, I would draw the Honourable Member to the concept that is in practice in the i nvestment space for high net worth investors and there being qualifications around income, assets, to determine whether investors are sophisticated enough or have sufficient assets where they could withstand the potential loss from these kinds of investments. I would refer the Honourable Member to page 10, the second paragraph, “For the purposes of subsection (1),” there are criteria set out for what a high income private acquirer would look like, and what a high net worth private acquirer would look like, with income in excess of $200,000 or with a spouse [i ncome] over $300,000. In the case of the high net worth private acquirer, a net worth in excess of $1 million.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, thanks. I thank the Minister for his response. It is just that a fi gure of $200,000 does not necessarily seem, in my mind, to be deemed to be high …
Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, thanks. I thank the Minister for his response. It is just that a fi gure of $200,000 does not necessarily seem, in my mind, to be deemed to be high net worth, and that was the reason for my initial question. It just seems as though tha t $200,000 figure . . . that may be the terms of reference that are used in the banking space in terms of high net worth individuals from a banking perspective, but $200,000 is probably almost the brink of poverty. And when we are dealing with something t hat is a digital asset issuance, which is different than a certificate of deposit or something that you can phys ically have in your hand that can be acquired, I just wanted to make sure that we are looking at something that is substantial, and $200,000 seems like an awful little bit of money under these circumstances. Certainly, the number, as far as a corporation is concerned, a body corporate, assets of not less than $5 million, where such assets are held solely by the body corporate . . . that makes sense to me. Five million dollars seems like something that is substa ntive. Two hundred thousand dollars seems almost on the brink of poverty for individuals, and I was just cur ious about that level, that threshold.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Curtis L. Di ckinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just to make a correction there, in the case of the $200,000, it is the income for an individual; $300,000 if the individual and their spouse are purchasing it; $1 million being the net worth number. Madam Chairman, I move …
Minister.
Hon. Curtis L. Di ckinson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just to make a correction there, in the case of the $200,000, it is the income for an individual; $300,000 if the individual and their spouse are purchasing it; $1 million being the net worth number. Madam Chairman, I move clauses 11 through . . . sorry, Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 1 to 10 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that clauses 1 to 10 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 10 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I would like to move clauses 11 through 20.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved . . . I am sorry. Would any Member wish to speak to clauses 11 through 20? [Crosstalk]
The ChairmanChairmanOh, I am sor ry, I am jumping ahead. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I am going to make this real quick, too. Okay? [Laughter] 3482 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 11 creates an offence of conducting a digital asset issuance …
Oh, I am sor ry, I am jumping ahead.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I am going to make this real quick, too. Okay?
[Laughter]
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 11 creates an offence of conducting a digital asset issuance without the authorisation of the Authority. Clause 12 provides that an application to the Authority for authorisation shall be accompanied by a business plan and the application fee prescribed under the Bermuda Monetary [Authority] Act 1969 . Clause 13 empowers the Authority to grant or refuse applications for authorisations. The Authority shall not grant an application unless it is satisfied that the minimum criteria set out in Schedule 1 are f ulfilled with respect to the applicant. The Minister is empowered to amend Schedule 1 by order subject to the negative resolution procedure. Clause 14 requires the Authority to publish a list and details of authorised undertakings. Clause 15 makes provision for the payment of fees for authorisations, et cetera. Such fees will be prescribed as set out in the Fourth Schedule to the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969 (inserted by paragraph 1 of Schedule 2). Clause 16 prohibits an undertaking from offering dig ital assets via a digital asset issuance to the public unless it is published in an electronic form of the issuance document. Clause 17 requires undertakings to publish updated particulars of an issuance document in certain circumstances. Clause 18 requires a promoter while an offer via a digital asset issuance is open or suspended to provide an electronic facility for persons to access, comment on and ask questions relating to the iss uance document. Clause 19 provides a cooling- off period of three business days for a person to withdraw an application in relation to a digital asset issuance. Clause 20 requires a promoter to ensure that a general risk warning appears in the issuance doc ument.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any Member wish to speak? I recognise the Mem ber from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I just wanted to briefly look on page 14 at clause 13 with respect to grant and r efusal of applications, and clearly the …
Does any Member wish to speak? I recognise the Mem ber from constituency 23.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I just wanted to briefly look on page 14 at clause 13 with respect to grant and r efusal of applications, and clearly the conditions must be met with the application for an application’s . . . for permission to be granted. But the question begs when there is a refusal of an application, I am not sure that I understood what the process would be. I mean the Authority has the final word to say they will or t hey will not issue a licence. But in the absence of that, what recourse does the individual have if the application has been denied in terms of if the Authority says, No you cannot have a licence , the A uthority would have looked at whatever documentation that it has in front of it and decides that it does not necessarily fit the criteria that they would want. There may be something deficient and, therefore, the A uthority can say, No, I will refuse your application. What is the next step for satisfying an a ppeal, if I can put it that way, if somebody feels aggrieved at the fact that they may not have received permission from the Authority?
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? No? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, the reference paragraph, [clause] 13, subsection (2), states, “T he Authority shall not grant an authorisation unless it is satisfied that the minimum criteria set out in Schedule 1 are fulfilled with respect to the appl …
Does any other Member wish to speak? No? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, the reference paragraph, [clause] 13, subsection (2), states, “T he Authority shall not grant an authorisation unless it is satisfied that the minimum criteria set out in Schedule 1 are fulfilled with respect to the appl icant.” My read of that [clause] is that there are mi nimum criteria set out in Schedule 1 for which an appl icant needs to meet. In evaluating the application, if the Authority is comparing the content of the applic ation to the guidelines that are in Schedule 1, inasmuch as people, or an applicant, are not meeting those cr iteria, then they have the right to reject the application. My sense is that the ability to fix the problem by the applicant is that they go back, look at the crit eria, determine what the minimum criteria is and then seek to meet it to the Authority’s satisfaction.
The ChairmanChairmanI recognise the Member from consti tuency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chairman. I thank the Minister for his explanation. But I did look at this clause in conjunction with the Sc hedule in terms of who is fit and proper, and who could …
I recognise the Member from consti tuency 23.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chairman. I thank the Minister for his explanation. But I did look at this clause in conjunction with the Sc hedule in terms of who is fit and proper, and who could and could not. I guess the question is that when one reaches the stage of making an application, there has to be a presumption on behalf of that individual that they qualify by all means to be able to get permission. There may be some further information that the Authority has by virtue of whatever other extraneous information that they may have where they make that decision. A person could be a fit and proper person, according to clause 1. They could have a bus iness plan that says that they will be conducting their business in a prudent manner. So they may, in their own mind, think that they have met all the criteria that is necessary for them to have issuance of a licence. So, the question is, what . . . I just did not see. You know, the Authority can say no. They are the final arbiters; they can say no we are not going to do it. But if they do say no, but the individual feels as though they have satisfied the criteria that are necessary, do they jus t have to accept the fact that the A uBermuda House of Assembly thority is saying no, or is there some second r ecourse? That was the question.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I believe in normal circu mstances, there is a dialogue which would happen be-tween the applicant and the Authority as they are pr eparing their applications for submission. Additionally, the applicant would avail themselves to the resources of local professionals who can provide guidance around …
Minister? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I believe in normal circu mstances, there is a dialogue which would happen be-tween the applicant and the Authority as they are pr eparing their applications for submission. Additionally, the applicant would avail themselves to the resources of local professionals who can provide guidance around what the appropriate criteria are and how the applicant can go about meeting those criteria. So, I think that there . . . between the comm unications with the Authority as well as the advice of the local professionals, experts, that should provide ample guidance for the applicant to ensure that their applications meet the minimum criteria.
The ChairmanChairmanNo other Member wishes to speak? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 11 through 20 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanAre there any objections? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 1 through 20 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move clauses 21 through 32.
The ChairmanChairman32, okay. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 21 provides that an authorised undertaking shall apply appropriate measur es of identification regarding the identity of persons participating in a digital asset issuance. Clause 22 requires authorised undertakings to ensure mechanisms are in place regarding the secur ity of assets and confidentiality …
32, okay.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 21 provides that an authorised undertaking shall apply appropriate measur es of identification regarding the identity of persons participating in a digital asset issuance. Clause 22 requires authorised undertakings to ensure mechanisms are in place regarding the secur ity of assets and confidentiality of information of parti cipants. Clause 23 creates offences relating to the i ssuance of an issuance document. Clause 24 provides for civil penalties for mi sstatements in an issuance document. Clause 25 specifies when experts are not li able under clauses 23 and 24. Clause 26 requires a n authorised undertaking to hold the assets of digital asset acquirers separate from its own. Clause 27 imposes an obligation on all authorised undertakings to appoint a local representative with an office in Bermuda. Clause 28 makes provision for local re presentatives to report certain events to the Authority. Clause 29 provides for authorised undertakings to apply to the Authority in respect of “material changes” to its business. Clause 30 empowers the Authority to restrict the authorisation of an undertaking where an author-ised undertaking fails to satisfy the minimum criteria, contravenes a provision of the Bill or fails to meet an obligation imposed by or under the Bill —but in ci rcumstances not to justify revocation of the authoris ation. The Authority’s objective in restricting an author isation is to protect digital asset acquirers or potential digital asset acquirers of an undertaking. Clause 31 provides for the revocation of an authorisation, and the grounds for revocation are set out under paragraphs (a) to (e). Clause 32 provides for the winding- up of an authorised undertaking that has had its authorisation revoked, if it is just and equitable to wind it up.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Does anyone wish to speak to clauses 21 through 32? I recognise th e Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, again I am looking at rev ocation of authorisation the same way I would have looked at the …
Thank you. Does anyone wish to speak to clauses 21 through 32? I recognise th e Member from constituency 23.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, again I am looking at rev ocation of authorisation the same way I would have looked at the issuing of the authorisation in the first instance in terms of, yes, it is fine to have your authorised agency such as, you know, your authorised law firm or whomever to guide you through the process, and now you have got your licence and you have been operating and now the Monetary Authority has determined that it is time, because of something that is not quite right, to revoke that authorisation. So, again, when somebody is up and running one would think that apart from just saying let your legal firm, or whomever, guide you through this or have a conversation, is there not either an appeal to a tribunal or to a court or some such [legal entity] that says, You know what , you are pulling my licence. I have been able to operate. I have had authorisation. Now, you are revoking my authorisation. What is the remed y for the individual if they feel as though they have been aggrieved in the pr ocess?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, that is the next clause. So, I will refer the Member to clause 33 which requires the Authority to giv e notice to an authorised undertaking where it proposes to restrict, vary a r estriction or revoke an authorisation. It sets out what …
The ChairmanChairmanDoes anyone else wish to speak? 3484 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly No? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 21 through 32 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any objection? No objection. [Motion carried: Clauses 2 1 through 32 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move clauses 33 through 43. Clause 33 requires the Authority to give notice to an authorised undertaking where it proposes to r estrict, vary a restriction or revoke its …
Is there any objection? No objection. [Motion carried: Clauses 2 1 through 32 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move clauses 33 through 43. Clause 33 requires the Authority to give notice to an authorised undertaking where it proposes to r estrict, vary a restriction or revoke its authorisation. The Authority is required to give the undertaking a warning notice in writing which mus t state the action it proposes to take and give reason for the proposed action. The authorised undertaking is given the opportunity to make representations to the Authority. The Authority after considering representations made to it by the authorised under taking can decide to either proceed with its proposed action or take no further action. It can also, where it has proposed revoking an author isation, restrict it instead; and where it has proposed restricting or varying the authorisation in a certain manner, restrict or vary it in a different manner. Once the Authority has made its decision it must provide a decision notice in writing which shall set out the reasons for its decision and where appropriate, an indic ation of the right to appeal to a tribunal. Where the A uthority decides not to take the action proposed in a warning notice it must give a notice of discontinuance, identifying the action which is being discontinued. Clause 34 provides for the imposition of r estrictions in case of urgency by the Aut hority. In such cases, the Authority is not required to give an author-ised undertaking notice under clause 33(1) of its inte ntion to impose a restriction. An authorised undertaking may also make representations to the Authority and can appeal a decision of the Authority under this clause. Clause 35 provides for the giving of directions by the Authority to an authorised undertaking following the revocation or surrender of its authorisation, where such directions appear to the Authority desirable for safeguar ding the interests of the digital asset acqui rers. Failure to comply with directions is a criminal offence. Clause 36 provides for the notification and confirmation of directions given by the Authority to authorised undertakings under clause 28. The A uthority is required to give directions by notice in writing and is empowered to vary a direction by a further di-rection. The Authority may also revoke a direction by notice in writing by exercise of its powers under this clause. Further, a direction given shal l cease to have effect at the end of 28 days unless it is confirmed by a further notice given by the Authority to the authorised undertaking. Clause 37 provides for the surrender of an authorisation by an undertaking. Surrender is irrevoc able, unless it is expressed to take effect at a future date, and before that date the Authority by notice in writing allows it to be withdrawn. Clause 38 requires any person who proposes to become a 10 per cent majority shareholder contro ller or a partner of an authorised undertaking to obtain the prior approval of the Authority by notice in writing. Such person shall only become a shareholder contro ller if the Authority does not object or respond within a specified period. Clause 39 provides for the Authority to object to any person who seeks to become a new controller of, or to increase his shareholding in, an authorised undertaking. Provision is further made for the time frame for notices to be submitted to the Authority and the Authority to respond to same. Persons recei ving any notice from the Authority under this section may also make representations to the Authority which it has to take into account in its determinations. Clause 40 provides for the Authority to object to an existing controller who it considers is no longer a fit and proper person. Provision is made for the giving of notices and for the making of representations by the persons concerned. Clause 41 provides offences with penalties ranging from $25,000 to $50,000 for contraventions by a controller of various requirements under the Bill. Contraventions are committed, in particular, with r espect to the failure by the person to notify the Author ity as required that the person is to become a 10 per cent or majority controller of an authorised undertaking or where a person fails to comply with notices of objection to him being a controller given by the A uthority. Clause 42 makes provision for the Authority to impose certain restrictions on the shares of a control-ler. The Authority may also apply to the court for an order for the sale of specified shares. Clause 43 empowers the Authority to impose effective, proportionate and dissuasive civil penalties of up to $10 million for failure to comply with any r equirement, or contraventions of any prohibition, i mposed by or under the Bill.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any Member wish to speak to clauses 33 through 43? No? Minister . Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 33 to 43 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any objection? No objection. Agreed to . Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: Clauses 33 through 43 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move clauses 44 through 58. Clause 44 requires the Authority to give a warning notice first, followed by a decision notice, where it …
Is there any objection? No objection. Agreed to .
Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: Clauses 33 through 43 passed.]
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move clauses 44 through 58. Clause 44 requires the Authority to give a warning notice first, followed by a decision notice, where it intends to impose a civil penalty. Clause 45 empowers the Authority to publish a statement publicly censuring an authorised under-taking which has contravened a requirement imposed by or under the Bill. Clause 46 sets out the public censure proc edure. Clause 47 empowers the Authorit y to make prohibition orders depending on the circumstances of each particular case and after an assessment of the qualities of the individual concerned. A person who performs or agrees to perform a function in breach of the order would be liable to a civi l penalty. Clause 48 requires the Authority to give a warning notice first, followed by a decision notice, where it intends to make a prohibition order. Clause 49 establishes a procedure for the making of applications to vary or revoke a prohibition order. Clause 50 provides for determination of appl ications under clause 49. Clause 51 provides for the Authority to apply for an injunction in specified circumstances. Clause 52 sets out rights of appeal. Clause 53 provides for the constitution of appeals trib unals. The chairman and deputy chairman are appointed by the Minister. The other members are appointed by the chairman, or, in his absence, by the deputy chairman from a panel appointed by the Mini ster. Clause 54 provides for the jurisdiction and powers of the tribunal in the determination of appeals. Clause 55 provides for costs, procedure and evidence related to any party to the appeal. Clause 56 provides for further appeals by an authorised undertaking or other person against the decisions of the tribunal to lie to the Supreme Court on questions of law only. Clause 57 makes provision for the issuing of warning notices by the Authority. The warning notice shall set out the proposed action and the reasons for it and give an indication of whether or not the Authority proposes to publish its decision. The notice provides a period of not less than 14 days, which can be exten ded by the Authority, to enable the authorised under-taking to make representations. Clause 58 makes provisions for the process by the Authority to issue a decision notice. The dec ision notice shall provide the particulars of the decision and the reason for the action and an indication of whether or not the Authority intends to publish the decision. It shall also inform the person concerned of the right to appeal to the tribunal. The Authority is r e-quired to make a determination within 90 days after issuance of a warning notice and, if no decision notice is given within that period, it shall be treated as having discontinued the action.
The Ch airman: Does any Member wish to speak to clauses 44 through 58? I recognise the Member from constituency 23.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, on page 35, clause 53 in respect of the constitution of tribunals. I n the first i nstance the tribunal shall have a chairman or a deputy chairman in his absence and two other members, this is subclause (2). And subclause (3) indicates that the chair and deputy chair shall be appointed by the Mi nister for a term not exceeding three years and shall be barristers and attorneys of at least seven years’ standing. The other two members in subclause (4), “The two other members of the tribunal shall be selected by the chairman or, in his absence, the deputy chairman, from a panel of members appointed by the Minister under subsection (6), who shall be persons appearing to the chairman or, as the case may be, the deputy chairman, to have relevant experience.” I am just wondering if the Minister could be a little bit more specific in terms of what they deem to be the relevant experience in respect of the other two members. They are not barristers or attorneys necessarily, they could be; but I am just wondering if there is any thought in terms of what exact criteria might be required by the other two members who will be on this panel of six other members that the Minister would approve for selection by the chair or, in his absence, the deputy chair.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other . . . sorry. Let me just ask. Does any other Member wish t o speak? No? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, the experience requirements for those other members would have to be individuals who have digital asset experience. It could be other lawyers. They …
The ChairmanChairmanOkay. Does anyone else wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, sorry. The Minister indicated that they could be . . . that they will be people having digital asset experience. Given that we are sort of dealing with a rel …
Okay. Does anyone else wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 23.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, sorry. The Minister indicated that they could be . . . that they will be people having digital asset experience. Given that we are sort of dealing with a rel atively new sort of area in this, and I would imagine that the capacity internationally, certainly, if not locally, 3486 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly may be restricted, I am just wondering what sort of training processes, what acceptability studies . . . I mean you could be a lawyer, you could be an accountant, you could have technological expertise, but not necessarily in the digital asset space. So, the question begs . . . to say that it could be a lawyer, it could be an accountant . . . I am an accountant, and I would not have a clue in this r espect, so I am just wondering if there is something extra that the Minister could give me, some comfort to say who these other six people could be.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: The digital as set space is one that is evolving at a rapid pace. And I would daresay that five years ago there was no one in Bermuda who knew what it was and what it was going to be. I would suggest that the capabilities in this space are developing rather quickly wit h there being greater proficiency in law firms and accounting firms. Like you, who has had a career for a while, I am not an expert in digital assets either. So I probably would not be an ideal candidate for sitting on this tribunal. But folks who are comi ng behind me, who are newer to the legal and the accounting professions —
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Well, I was not going to say that, but since you mentioned it, yes, those folks who operate with their phones and who do most of their activities with their phones. So, the expectation is that while there may not be a plentiful supply of pe ople today, a year from now that whole circumstance could change. So, we will have to kind of test it out and see how we progress. The objective here, though, is to kind of set up a framework that actually makes the most sense un-derstanding that we may have some challenge at this moment filling all the spots, but we are developing the capability and with the benefit of time we will get there.
The ChairmanChairmanI recognise the Member from consti tuency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman, and just for a matter of clarity for my own edification and perhaps those who are interested and excited about this legislation, because it is exci ting stuff. I just wondered, with …
I recognise the Member from consti tuency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman, and just for a matter of clarity for my own edification and perhaps those who are interested and excited about this legislation, because it is exci ting stuff. I just wondered, with the Minister ’s response, are we looking to perhaps . . . I would not say advertise or headhunt internationally for people who are in this kind of space if we are looking to fulfil a schedule of people on whom the Minister might be able to appoint, that the chair and the deputy chair could call for their expertise in this area. I mean, I know the Minister indicated that obviously the talents are developing literally as we speak. But I would imagine that there would notwithstanding that Bermuda has been on the cutting edge of this particular type of legislation, digital assets, that we might be equally hard- pressed even internationally to find the level of expertise to find six people that the Minister would have, acc ording to this Act, and I am just wondering how we are going to fill that place. I mean, I know that he said that it is developing daily, and some of us who have probably been in the workforce for an exceedingly long time may not necessarily have that exp ertise. I am just wondering how far our reach is likely to be. Are we going to be saying if we do not see somebody locally who fulfils the criteria that we are looking for, are we going to look to New York or London or somewhere else so that we have people who could sit on that panel on a one-off basis?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I would say to that that—
The ChairmanChairmanSorry, Minister . I am sorry. I did not see the gentleman. . . yes? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I would say that over the course of the last 30 months, when this area, this evolving, emerging industry has been an area of focus for the Government , that lots …
Sorry, Minister . I am sorry. I did not see the gentleman. . . yes?
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I would say that over the course of the last 30 months, when this area, this evolving, emerging industry has been an area of focus for the Government , that lots of contacts have been made. And it would not surprise me if there are others who would have an interest in providing assistance. I do not want to in any way minimise the i mportance of the tribunal. But my hope is that with the construct of this regime that the need to go to a trib unal will be the exception and not the rule. And so, the frequency of these kinds of things happening— hopefully it is not that many —and the timeframe in which it does happen is hopefully not too soon. I am not embracing a hope strategy, because I am one who rails against a hope strategy. But I think that we have to . . . I thi nk we should be more focused on ensuring that the regime is appropriately architec ted and have some confidence that we will find the bodies should we need them, as opposed to try and identify all of the resources today.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 44 through 58 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any objection? No objection. Agreed to. Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: Clauses 44 through 58 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dick inson: Madam Chairman, I move clauses 59 through 68.
The ChairmanChairmanProceed. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 59 makes prov ision for the Authority to give a notice of discontinuance to a person concerned if, following the issue of a warning notice, the Authority decides not to proceed with the proposed action. Clause 60 makes provision for the Authority to decide …
Proceed.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 59 makes prov ision for the Authority to give a notice of discontinuance to a person concerned if, following the issue of a warning notice, the Authority decides not to proceed with the proposed action. Clause 60 makes provision for the Authority to decide what information should be published about a decision and prohibits the Authority from publishing a decision unless it has first notified the per son co ncerned, and pending the outcome of an appeal that might have been made. Clause 61 requires an authorised undertaking to notify the Authority of any change in its controllers or officers. Where an undertaking fails to comply, it shall be liable for a civil penalty. Clause 62 makes provision for the Authority to obtain information and reports from an authorised undertaking. A report requested by the Authority under this clause may be prepared by an authorised undertaking’s auditor, accountant or other person. Clause 63 provides for the production of documents for examination by the Authority. The Author ity may also require, amongst other matters, for the parent or a subsidiary company of an authorised undertaking to produce documents for its examination, if it appears to it to be desirable in the interests of digital asset acquirers. Clause 64 empowers an officer, servant or agent of the Authority to enter into premises occupied by an authorised undertaking to obtain information or documents in certain c ircumstances. Clause 65 makes provision for the Authority to investigate the digital asset issuance conducted by an authorised undertaking. Such investigations shall be conducted by third parties on behalf of the Authority, all expenses of which are payabl e by the authorised undertaking under investigation unless otherwise d irected by the Authority. The Authority may launch an investigation into the nature, conduct or state of the business of an authorised undertaking or any partic ular aspect of it, or into the ownership or control of an authorised undertaking. Offences are created in con-nection with the failing of an authorised undertaking or other relevant persons to assist in or in obstructing an investigation. Clause 66 makes provision for the Authority to investigate suspected contraventions of fundamental requirements in the Bill and other requirements i mposed by or under the Bill. Clause 67 makes provision for the Authority to require a person under investigation or any person connected to the person under investigation to provide information, produce documents or attend for questioning. Clause 68 makes provision for the issuance of search warrants by a magistrate in cases where a person is suspected of removing, tampering with or destroying documents required by the Authority for its functions, or in cases where a person under investigation or any person connected to the person under i nvestigation refuses to provide the information or documents requested by the Authority.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any Member wish to speak to clauses 59 through 68? I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I just wanted to observe that the penalties are sufficiently punitive, and the powers of s earch are sufficiently broad …
Does any Member wish to speak to clauses 59 through 68? I recognise the Member from constituency 23.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I just wanted to observe that the penalties are sufficiently punitive, and the powers of s earch are sufficiently broad so that it helps to keep honesty in the system. So, I do not have any . . . I just wanted to make that as an observation, but I have no other comments on that.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? No? Minister . Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 59 through 68 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any objection? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 59 through 68 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 69 through 85 be moved.
The ChairmanChairmanI am sorry, you said 69 through 89? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Eighty -five.
The ChairmanChairmanEighty -five, the end? Okay. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 69 creates an offence for a person who knows or suspects that an i nvestigation is likely to be carried out in certain circumstances to obstruct such an investigation. Clause 70 requires an authorised undertaking to deliver to the Authority, …
Eighty -five, the end? Okay.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 69 creates an offence for a person who knows or suspects that an i nvestigation is likely to be carried out in certain circumstances to obstruct such an investigation. Clause 70 requires an authorised undertaking to deliver to the Authority, within four months of the end of the digital asset issuance and within four months of the end of its financial year if falling during the offering via the digital asset issuance, a certificate of compliance signed by an officer of the authorised undertaking, certifying that the authorised undertaking 3488 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly has complied with the minimum criteria for authoris ation and codes of conduct. Clause 71 prohibits the disclosure of information relating to the business or other affairs of persons coming into the possession of any person exer-cising functions under the Act. Clause 72 authorises the disclosure of certain information if it is necessary for facilitating the di scharge of the function of the Authority. Clause 73 authorises disclosure to the Mini ster and to other authorities in Bermuda by the Author ity for the purpose of enabling or assisting them to di scharge their regulatory functions. Disclosure may be made to overseas regulators who exercise functions corresponding to the function of the Authority, provi ded that such overseas regulators are subject to similar restrictions on further disclosure. Information may be disclosed for the purposes of criminal proceedings to the Director of Public Prosecutions or a police officer not below the rank of inspector. Clause 74 imposes similar restrictions on the disclosure of information supplied to the Authority by an overseas authority. Clause 75 creates offences in connection with false documents or information. Clause 76 is a standard provision relating to criminal liability of officers of authorised undertakings which have committed an offence. Clause 77 prohibits the use of the words “digital asset issuance” by persons not holding an author isation. Clause 78 provides the procedure for the gi ving and serving of notices to an authorised undertak-ing. Clause 79 provides that a notice requir ed under the Bill to be given or served on the Authority shall not be regarded as given or served until it is received by the Authority. Clause 80 makes provision that where a person is convicted of an offence under the Bill no civil penalty can be imposed relative to the same matter, and vice versa. Clause 81 makes provision for the Minister after consulting with the Authority to make regulations prescribing anything which may be prescribed under this Bill and generally for the implementation of the Bill. Regulations and Orders are made subject to the negative resolution procedure. Clause 82 makes provision for saving and transitional matters. Clause 83 gives effect to the consequential amendments in Schedule 2, including the fees to be inserted into the Fourth Schedule to the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969. Clause 84 provides for the repeal and revoc ations of enactments superseded by this Act, as set out in Schedule 3. In particular Part IIIA (Initial Coin Offering) of the Companies Act 1981 and Part 1 0A (Initial Coin Offering) of the Limited Liability Company Act 2016 are repealed, and regulations made under those provisions are revoked. Section 272F of the Companies Act 1981, which provided for the FinTech Advis ory Committee to advise the Minister of Finance on matters relating to FinTech and the development of the FinTech industry , is repealed. Clause 85 provides for commencement.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamp lin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I just have one question, and that is in respect of clause 73. (Let me just make sure this is the right clause) In …
Does any Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamp lin: Thank you, Ma dam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I just have one question, and that is in respect of clause 73. (Let me just make sure this is the right clause) In clause 73, in which . . if there is information that may be, for the purposes of criminal pr oceedings, that such information may be disclosed to the director of public prosecutions or, it carries on to say, a police officer, not below the rank of inspector . . . I am just kind of curious as to why that restriction. I know it happens in lots of ot her BMA –– But why an inspector? Why not . . . I mean, there is a sergeant, if you know something, if you think that something is wrong. Is there some reason why the inspector has the ability, you know obviously you need an inspector, a chief inspector or whatever up the ranks, but what about one level down? What is the determination as to that level in terms of criminal pr oceeding? A criminal proceeding is a criminal procee ding. And it would seem to me that any police officer should be in a position of receiving information. B ecause this is such a specialised area, I can under-stand that they would want somebody who is relatively higher up the chain, but I am just not sure that waiting until an inspector is available, if you find that som ebody is doing something that is of a criminal nature, then it would seem to me that you would utilise maybe somebody who is a sergeant and above.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 36. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, to the Minister , under 79, will the Minister be aware that this may be an area in terms of the word “received” whether the legal …
Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 36.
Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, to the Minister , under 79, will the Minister be aware that this may be an area in terms of the word “received” whether the legal co ncept of the posting rule or mailbox rule might apply. And I am not asking the Ministe r to give an answer tonight, but it is a contract rule that says when it is put in the post it is received and it might be common issue in the administration of section 79. Just an observation.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, with respect to the clause 73 question, the best answer that I can give at the moment is that this is a standard provision contained inside of Acts that are part of the BMA legislative package. We can go …
Minister?
Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, with respect to the clause 73 question, the best answer that I can give at the moment is that this is a standard provision contained inside of Acts that are part of the BMA legislative package. We can go and make an inquiry to see why the rank of inspector has been the one designated for being the person to whom things should be referred. With respect to clause 79, I am not a lawyer, and I am not even going to try to practice being one. So, I would also similarly want to go back to the BMA to get further explanation from them as to why they deem it is appropriate that this provision is construc ted the way it is.
The ChairmanChairmanDoes any other Member wish to speak? No? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that clauses 69 through 85 be appr oved.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 69 through 85 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I also move Schedules 1 through 4 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any objection to that motion? [Schedules] 1 through 3? [Crosstalk] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I am sorry. My notes here . . . there are three Schedules; I am sorry. I move that Schedules 1, 2 and 3 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any objection? No obj ection. [Motion carried: Schedules 1 thr ough 3 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIs there any objection? No objection. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Madam Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Is there any objec-tion to that motion? No objection. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Thank you, Minister . [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020 was considered by a …
It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Is there any objec-tion to that motion? No objection. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Thank you, Minister . [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment .]
House resumed at 9:44 pm
[Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Deputy Speaker, in the Chair]
REPORT OF COMMITTEE
DIGITAL AS SET ISSUANCE ACT 2020
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerAre there any objections to the Bill that has been reported to the House? There appear to be none. I think I am clear that all other orders have been carried over. Minister, can you do your third reading? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Deputy Speaker, there are two items …
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerPardon? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Foreign Currency Purchase Tax Exemption Orders.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerWe do not know anything about t hat. We have not been informed of that. We have only been informed of one Bill. It is the one that was done. [Crosstalk]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerNobody has informed me of that. [Crosstalk] [Pause]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerWe will wait until Monday. We were ne ver informed. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Deputy Speaker, well, that is fine. We can do it at the next session. That is not a problem.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerOkay. Hon. Walter H. Roban: We were of the . . . we were informed that all concerned parties were informed.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerMinister , do you want to do your third reading? 3490 6 March 2020 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled …
Minister , do you want to do your third reading?
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Bermuda House of Assembly SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled the Digital Asset I ssuance Act 2020 be now read the third time by its title only.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerAre there any objections to the third reading? No objections. Agreed to and approved. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING DIGITAL ASSET ISSUANCE ACT 2020 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its title only …
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerAny objections? Approved. [Motion carried: The Digital Asset Issuance Act 2020 was read a third time and passed.]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerMr. Premier? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Mr. Deputy Speaker, I move that the House do now adjourn until Monday, March 9th at 10:00 am. [Gavel] The Deputy Speake r: The House stands adjourned — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Uh-uh—
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerMarch 9th at 10:00. You got to move quick. [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I can’t move any quicker than that!
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerYou know I’m quick. You got to be real quick when I am here. [Laughter] [At 9:4 8 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Monday, 9 March 2020.]