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House of Assembly Session 2018/2019 459 speeches

June 7, 2019

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Premier David Burt announced the Government will establish a 5-member Commission of Inquiry to investigate historic property losses through theft, dispossession and adverse possession claims - fulfilling a 2014 House resolution that the previous Governor had refused to implement. The commission will include a judge, legal counsel, land title officer and two lay members. Deputy Premier Walter Roban tabled the Electricity Amendment Act 2019 to give the Minister power to review electricity licence transfers, triggered by the potential sale of BELCO. Minister De Silva announced Bermuda will host its first PGA Tour event in October 2019 at Port Royal Golf Course, with the Bermuda Tourism Authority paying $3 million annually for a 5-year sponsorship deal.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jun 7, 2019
Session 2018/2019
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Speakers 26
Speeches 459

Key Topics

Establishment of a Commission of Inquiry into historic losses of citizens' property in BermudaFinTech education initiative update showing strong community participationElectricity Amendment Act 2019 to strengthen regulation of the power sectorWest End Development Corporation (WEDCO) growth and improvements at Royal Naval DockyardBermuda Championship - first mainstream PGA Tour golf event coming to the Island

Bills & Motions

Electricity Amendment Act 2019 - tabled by Deputy Premier Roban (first reading)

Notable Moments

The Premier emphasized "it is never too late for justice" when announcing the property losses commission, noting 2,000 people had marched on Government House when the previous Governor refused to establish it
Minister Burch defended WEDCO's changes at Dockyard, saying critics oppose change due to "negativity" or being "afraid of change"
The PGA Tour announcement was hailed as a milestone achievement, with acknowledgment of Patrick Horgan III who had pursued this goal for over 30 years

Debate Transcript

459 speeches from 26 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 3 1 May 2019]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of May 31st have been circulated. Are there any omissions or amendments? There are none. The Minutes are confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 3 1 May 2019 confirmed] ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker Announcements this morning: There are Members who have indicated that they will be absent today. We have, on the Order Paper, MP Jeanne Atherden. We also have MP Gordon- Pamplin, M P Dunkley and MP Commissiong. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none from the Senate. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR The Clerk: Also, there are no messages from the Governor. (I omitted that.) PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker You may note that there is a paper or communication on the Order Paper. But that is being carried over for another occasion. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker There are seven St atements this mor ning. And the first is in the name of the Premier. Premier, would you like to put your Statement now? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. ESTABLISHMENT OF A COMMISSION OF INQ UIRY INTO HISTORIC LOSSES OF CITIZENS’ PROPERTY IN BERMUDA Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members will recall that , on the 4 th of July 2014, this Honourable House approved a motion in these terms: “THAT this Honourable House take …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier, I believe the second Statement this morning is also in your name. Would you like to deli ver that now? Hon. E. Da vid Burt: Sure, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. FINTECH BUSINESS UNIT EDUCATION INITIATIVE UPDATE Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, today I will provide this Honourable House with an update on the Go vernment’s FinTech Education and Training Initiative . Mr. Speaker, technology companies are domiciling in jurisdictions …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The third Statement this morning is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy, would you like to present yours? Hon. Walter H. R oban: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. BILL ENTITLED : THE ELECTRICITY AMENDMENT ACT 2019 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, as the Order Paper indicates, I will today table a Bill in this Honourable House entitled the Electricity Amendment Act 2019 . Mr. Speaker, you will remember that, on the 15th of March 2019, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. The next Statement on the Order Paper this morning is that in the name of Minister Burch. Minister, would you like to put your Stat ement?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. THE WEST END DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I rise this morning to highlight change—s ustainable- growth, change, ongoing cruise ship port enhancements , change, developing an artisan industry , change, growing r etail bus inesses , change and repurposing h istorical assets to accommodate modern expectations , change. Mr. Speaker, in an era where it is so …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member How much?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The sys tem is already partially online. Next week , we intend commissioning another large section of production, and the final connection to power the wastewater treatment plant will be online within the next 30 days. Included within the project , WEDCO intends to set up live displays sho wcasing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement on the Order Paper this morning is in the name of the Minister of National S ecurity. Minister Caines. Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Do so. EXERCISE TRADE WINDS Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to inform this House of the Royal Bermuda Regiment’s involvement with Exercise Trade Winds . This exercise is organi sed by the United States Military, specifically the US Southern Command [SOUT HCOM] , which is based …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister, the next Statement is also in your name. Would you like to proceed on that? Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. HURRICANE SEASON Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, the second Statement this morning is to remind this Honourable House that we have just entered hurricane season, which runs from the 1 st of June this year until the 30th of November. We have already seen the first tropical storm …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Minister who has a Statement is the Minist er of Transport. Minister De Silva, would you like to put your Statement? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much. Good morning to colleagues, Berm udian listeners, and our overseas listeners.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. THE NEW B ERMUDA CHAMPIONSHIP —A PGA TOUR EVENT Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, this week’s announcement that Bermuda will host its first -ever mainstream PGA T our event , the Bermuda Championship, is a very exciting development for sports tourism in Bermuda. PGA T …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That brings us to the close of the Statements for this morning. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker We are now on questions. And the questions this morning relate to the Statements in that there are no written questions. All questions are to be answered this morning. Ministers, of your Statements this morning, there are five Members who have indicated that they have questions. The first is to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can assure the Honourable Opposition Leader that the cost of this commission will not be free. What I can say is that the cost will be managed prudently. And as part of the administrative planning, a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Supplementary or a new question? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I am good.
The Speaker The Speaker You are fine? Thank you, Premier. That is the only question for you on that Statement. We will now move on to the Statement from the Minister of Works regarding WEDCO. And the Oppositi on Whip would like to put a question to you. Honourable Member. QUESTION 1: THE WEST …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you and good mor ning, Minister. I was just wondering if the Minister might be able to give us any insight into the development, or otherwise, of the eastern- facing shoreline where the dry dock is? So, right now, ferries are brought up on dry dock in private boats. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, thank you. There are no immediate plans to move that area at this time.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? No further questions? We will move on. The next Statement . . . Minister Caines? If someone can get Minister Caines, we are going to move on and come back. Minister De Silva, there is a question for you. The Opposition Leader would like to put a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, of course. It is $3 mi llion a year. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I am sorry? Could you r epeat that? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The cost is $3 million per year.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or further ques tion? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, continue. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Considering that, is the Minister aware . . . or, have any additional funds been asked of Government to add and to contribute to this tour?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister . Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, there have not.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Further question or supplementary? Suppl ementary? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Supplementary, suppl ementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Once all is finalise d, would the Honourable Minister be willing to at least table the agreement so that we are aware of all of the details?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Unless there is any sens itive information, I will be happy to do that. And I will be happy to share with the Opposition Leader. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No further questions? No further questions. The last question this morning would be to Minister Caines. Minister, it is in reference to your Statem ent on Trade Winds. And that is from the Honourable Member from constituency 7. Honourable Member Richards, you have the floor. QUESTION 1: EXERCISE …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or further question? Supplementary? 1750 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Would the Honourable Minister a dvise whether there will be a similar -sized contingent that will attend phase 2 in St. Vincent and the Grenadines? Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, as per the Stat ement, the second part will be the significant part, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? None? Well, Members, that brings us to a close of the Question Period this morning. CONGRA TULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to— Ah, Minister. You were quick that time. I recognise Minister Burch.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, yes. I want to go first, Mr. Speaker, since I only have three minutes . I mean, my goodness. Anyway, let me start, not wasting them, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. That’s a good way.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I would like to extend congratulations to Esther Merle Brock Swan Williams, who celebrated her 90 th birthday on the 29th of May,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Yes. Yes. Associate the whole House with that. Yes.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I associate the whole House with those congratulations. She is the founder of the Adult Education School 60 years ago, and still teachi ng and still giving licks on a regular basis, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I would also like to extend congratulations to the Ombudsman for Bermuda, who last week hosted the 10 th Biennial CAROA [Caribbean Ombudsman Association] Conference here in Bermuda which was attended by 17 countries from the Caribbean and Central America. Mr. Speaker, I had the distinct pleasure of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Now, I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 22. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to join with the Honourable and gallant Member in my congratulations, as well, to Bermu da House of Assembly the Ombudsman. I too attended the event last week. And it was delightful to see such a gathering of independent members of integrity …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I recognise the Premier. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning on a sad note, and I wish to ask this Honourable House to send condolences to the family of the late Beunice Crockwell, long- time—
The Speaker The Speaker You should ass ociate the whole House with that one. Hon. E. David Burt: I will certainly, Mr. Speaker, associate the entire House with these remarks. Many persons will know that Ms. Crockwell was a long- time receptionist at the Cabinet Office. Her spirit would brighten even that place and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise very happily today to offer congratulations and thanks to both the Minister of Tourism, the Honourable Zane De Silva, and Mr. P. H. Horgan and his team, Mr. Bruno, for realising a dream of mine from the days when I did play …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We recognise the Honourable Deputy Premier. Honourable Deputy, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like, of course, to be associated with the congratulatory remarks given to the Ombudsman of Bermuda for the holding of the conference. I did have the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. We now recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Good morning.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, I would like to offer congratul ations first to Inspector Na’imah Astwood, who was the first runner -up at the Association of Caribbean Commissioners of Police. And I associate the Deputy Premier. And I will associate the whole House, if that is …
The Speaker The Speaker I do not think so. But you can go ahead.
Ms. Leah K. Scott But I would like to give congrat ulations to all of our runners. I would like to thank Lister Insurance Agency, who has put on this race for the past 21 years now.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Ms. Leah K. Scott I would like to associate Mr. Swan. And it is always a pleasure to see our young people come out and run. We had a nice awards ceremony at the Bermuda College. So, I would like to thank you for sponsoring this, for allowing our young children to have an …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Finally, Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the remarks for Beunice Croc kwell. Beunice was a ray of sunshine, and I remember walking into the Cabinet Office every time, and she was just always welcoming and warm and kind.
Ms. Leah K. Scott And she will be a big miss. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Honourable Member Smith. Honourable Member Smith, you have the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Firstly, I would like to give congratulations to Bermuda’s Football Team for the 1 –nil victory in the Friendly last night. I know I saw quite a few of the MPs there. Bermu da House of Assembly The Speaker: Do the whole House, do the whole …
Mr. Ben Smith So, I associate the whole House with that. I would also like to give congratulations. Last weekend was the Bermuda National Swimming Champions hip. And we had the high point winners in the 12 and under, and 13 and over. So, the female 12 and under winner was Imogen Judd, …
Mr. Ben Smith I would also like to send good luck to all of our track athletes who will be participating in the Bermuda National Championships for Track & Field over tonight and tomorr ow, and hopefully, everybody will go out and support our youngsters as they conti nue to strive for success.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Now I recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s, constituency 1. Honourable Member, you have t he floor.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker and listening audience. Although I have been associated with the comments for Beunice Crockwell, I just wanted to add my own story to this. Although I have known Ms. Crockwell through her children most of my life, I have had the pleasure of really interacting with …
The Speaker The Speaker Well . . .
Mrs. Renee Ming And she could be found on Fac ebook always defending and letting everybody know that she was —she wore —she was blue.
The Speaker The Speaker Well . . .
Mrs. Renee Ming So, I do not know. Maybe the Premier forgot and left that part out. But I would also like to just say that Jo Jo, who Kim already has given acknowledgement to, will definitely be missed around St. George’s, as well. His favourite line to me was, Are you going …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member from constit uency 11. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, Bermuda. I associate myself with [the condolences for] Ms. Crockwell. What has been left out is that, before everything else, she was a Pond dog, right on Friswells Road. Also, she was what we call a BELCO mom. Her son Garrett is my co- …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I wonder why, Colonel?
Mr. Christopher Famous I wonder why. Because he said, Berkeleyites can’t count. Well, he wo n that, didn’t he? Mr. Speaker, moving on, a Bermuda College culinary student, Mr. Tremayne Bailey, is doing an apprenticeship over in Africa for eight weeks in conjunction with the Ace It Foundation, headed by Mr. Quinton Sherlock. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. We now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 7. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the remarks that my fellow colleague, MP Ben Smith, gave about the game …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 16. Honourable Member Weeks, you have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the comments by the Member who just sat down, congratulating the National Team. I just want to remind him and others that that pink and blue that you see now have become our national colours. So, not only will you see …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 32. Honourable Member.
Mr. Scott Simmons Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank you. I rise in this Honourable House this morning on two very sad notes, Mr. Speaker, and ask that I join colleagues in extending condolences to the family of my family, Mr. James Prescott Robinson. Though Uncle James was not my paternal uncle, he …
Mr. Scott Simmons Scientist, having been running around the Cabinet Office stark naked, on facing Beunice in the doorway and looking to her, he said, My eyes are up here. [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Simmons Beunice blushed and yelled, Scientist! Get out of here! Scientist ran off towards Front Street. Mr. Speaker, Beunice and I laughed without ceasing. She will be greatly remembered, as she is much loved. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member Furbert. You have the floor.
Mrs. Tinee Furbert Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to be associated with the r emarks giving obits to Ms. Beunice Crockwell. More recently, [as I was] her Member of Parliament in constituency 4, she will be a big miss in the Duck’s Pud-dle community. Ms. Crockwell is actually my aunt. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 26. Honourable Member Tyrrell, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, all. Mr. Speaker, last week, I was under heavy threat not to bring attention to this young lady. But this week, I am going to weather the storm and hope that I can send congratulations out to Ms. Virginia Butte rfield, better known …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other . . . We recognise the Honourable Opposition Leader. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to add my comments and support and condolences to certainly the loss of Ms. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And it was signified with a smile, a massive smile. I used to tease her all the time about her slightly bow legs. And her travels, of course, were everything to her. We talked about the ethnic cruises that we had been on. And so, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou. I now recognise the Honourable Member, Minister Simmons. You have the floor. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, all. I rise today to add my voice to the list of pe ople paying tribute to Ms Beunice Crockwell, who was a dear …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. No further speakers on condolences and congratulations? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thanks. Mr. Speaker, I was jotting a few notes of observances in respect of Ms. Beunice Crockwell. So, sir, in adding my observances of condolences, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member? No further Members wish to speak? We will move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTAN CE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier. Bermu da House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, again.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. FIRST READING ELECTRICITY AMENDMENT ACT 2019 Hon. Walter H. Rob an: I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the Electric ity Amendment Act 2019. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Members, it is now 11:20, and we are on the Orders of the Day. And the first and only Order for today is Order No. 5, which is a motion in the name of the Minister of Transport in reference to the Green Paper on the future of transport. Minister, …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MOTION 2019 GREEN PAPER ON TRANSPORT Hon. Zane J. S. De Si lva: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now take under consideration the following motion, notice of which was given on the 17 th of May 2019: WHEREAS the Government undertook in the 2017 Speech from …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. No objections to that? I am glad it was such a long intro on that one. No objections to it, Minister. Continue. [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today we look forward to debating the findings of the 2019 Transport Green …
The Speaker The Speaker Members. Can you sort that out? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, the Gover nment is also keen to encourage active transport as we tackle the impact of obesity and diabetes on our population . However, the Public Transportation Survey r evealed justifiable concerns regarding our road safety. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Minister for bringing forward this Transportation Green Paper. I think we all would agree that transportation does need to be ad-dressed in Bermuda. Public transportation provides a basic mobility service to people who either do not have transport ation, do …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Ooh. Thank you. [Laughter]
Ms. Leah K. Scott While public transportation does not provide a great revenue stream, it provides a service. I think that it is notable that there are currently 23,376 students and seniors who ride the buses. And I am happy to see in the paper that they ar e looking to reverting back to …
Ms. Leah K. Scott I am a senior. So, we have to also look, Mr. Speaker, at what is a sustainable bus schedule? We have been talking about this bus schedule now for 17 years. What does it take to get a proper bus schedule in place? And what will it take to also …
Ms. Leah K. Scott And so, they said that they are not looking at procuring another front -loading ferry because there is not enough volume of people. Ho wever, I think it is kind of a catch- 22. More people would ride the ferry if they could bring their bikes. And so, do you …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2. Bermu da House of Assembly Honourable Member Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to speak to this Green Paper on Transportation. I thank the Minister for bringing it here. I want to thank Ms. Stacey Evans, who I know has done a great deal of work in the pre paration, and the …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan But I digress there, Mr. Speaker, because I only have 30 minutes on an i mportant topic. Transportation reflects very much the social makeup of any society. And in university, in addition to playing a lot of golf, I majored in social science, as well, and spent a great deal …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Thousand.
Mr. Hub ert (Kim) E. Swan [Yes,] 484,000. That is 484 with three zeroes. Not even HOTT 107.5 with two T’s. That is three zeroes in the back of that 484. That is a lot of zeroes. That is a lot of people to have to manage. Now, let us cross reference that. Let us cross …
The Speaker The Speaker Do not waste your time. Keep talking. Keep talking.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I am going. I am going. Mr. Speaker, the senior population in Berm uda and the group of persons approaching the senior population in Bermuda are the fastest -growing segment of our society. And that presents a different d ynamic for Bermuda to consider. In the Green Paper, on page …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan If he does n ot see the receipts coming in, he is going to be looking at numbers. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan No, I am just saying. It is important to look at the social dynamics at play. And we have cultural problems as it comes to transport ation. I remember back when in 1979 when I was at Davis, California, for the NCAA Championship, and I remember the University of California, …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan It is a Green Paper, and I have some latitude. The only problem is, Mr. Speaker, with these new rules that I helped introduce, I do not have the time! [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Well, it is now 12:30. I am going to ask the question. Do you intend to finish in the next m inute? Or do you w ant to use the rest of the remaining 10 minutes that you have?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I have got 10 minutes? I will take the whole 10 after lunch.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, after lunch is good. Does one of the Ministers want to rise and break us to lunch? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Mr. Speaker, I ask that we break for lunch.
The Speaker The Speaker And return at two o’clock? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And return at . . . yes, sure. Let us do two o’clock. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Members, we now stand a djourned for lunch until 2:00 pm. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. I trust ev eryone had a refreshing break during their lunch. We are about to resume. [Gavel] MOTION 2019 TRANSPORT GREEN PAPER [Debate thereon continuing]
The Speaker The Speaker When we broke for lunch the Honour able Member Swan, from constituency 2, was on his feet with 10 minutes remaining in his speech. 1768 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Would you like to use up your 10 minutes or are you considered done?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan [Microphone off ]
The Speaker The Speaker Trying to get 10 on the clock. Well, mine is started, how is that? Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: I will continue on the [Transport] Green Pap er. Let me start off, Mr. Speaker , the Green P aper states that taxis are expensive. But it is my contention that …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And golfers, indeed. But I want to say that science has a lot to do with it. So if hundreds of thousands of people are in Dockyard, the composition of the Island, the layout of the Island, being configured [like] a fishhook, we need to make sure . . . …
The Speaker The Speaker You are almost at t hat point.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —efficient.
The Speaker The Speaker You almost at . . . well, there you go. [Timer beeps] [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker There you go.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I will . . . I have no choice but to stop right there, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your contribution. I now recognise the next Member, and I b elieve it is the Member from constituency 12. Opposition Leader, you have your 30 minutes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker , and good afternoon to everyone after lunch. I would like …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: However, it is not difficult reading, but it is very informative in the scope that it has taken to get to this House and to the larger Ber-muda what this Government believes is t he direction that we need to go in. What I will …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: We put them in place for safety reasons and we, as a people—not the tourists, we as a people— are ignoring the fundamental laws of the land. So we have got to go a long way in enforcing that safety for everyone in Bermuda as …
The Speaker The Speaker Going green. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —mostly electrical.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I mean, certainly, Mr. Speaker , you —
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —have been in the field and you know it all too well that this is a great opportunity in Bermuda. I was just looking last night, actually, at these new glass bat teries that will go a thousand hours —
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —without being regenerated. So technology is certainly catching . . . well, not catching up. Technology is certainly pushing us forward and we do need to advantage of many of these new and innovative things that are happening out there in the world. And we …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Gulfstream. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Gulfstream, and I had a nice meal there. My goodness, the number of minibuses that rolled out of that thing . . . it was incredible! I did not realise we had that many. I mean, to be frank, I felt like it was dozens …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I mean it is a real science. And we are seeing far too often that we are not appl ying the science to this, and we are hearing all of the issues that are happening up at Dockyard that we know we need relief for …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. L. C raig Cannonier: And so we have got to find a way, as we have gone through this paper, of ensuring that we have somehow, not necessarily a central place where all this information is going from, but ensuring that all of the separate entities that are …
The Speaker The Speaker You are winding down now — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I am winding down now.
The Speaker The Speaker You have less than half a minute. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And certainly I did not even get to the last three- quarters of this report, but this report gives a lot of great information. And I was excited about the fact of being able to read through this here, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Government Whip. Government Whip.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker . One thing that we . . . it is a term that we tend to use very often, which is talking about vision and, they usually say, Hindsight is 20/20. And you know me, I like to research why we use the phrases we use …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott And, as I said before, the nurse that I am dating is helping to educate me on anatomy. But the thing is when we talk about vision and we talk about it being 20/20, that means that . . . Bermu da House of Assembly 20/20 is not necessarily the …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I do not know. My eyesight is actually correctible to 20/20 with my glasses. But the thing is that the 20/20 part is just . . . and the clarity and sharpness of vision is just one aspect. There are other things that go into really being able to tell …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Well, yes, Place’s closes at 1:00 and then we go, I mean, some Members in here do go to Spinning Wheel. So therefore . . . but also another thing is allowing the buses to be able to pick up some additional bandwidth by providing luggage racks on the buses …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Huh? [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Well, no, I am going through my main points, mainly about the airport, just making sure that people understand the importance and its contribution to the transportation infrastructure be-cause that is a . . . just like the cruise ships bring in large numbers of people, so does the airport …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much, Mr. Whip. I now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 9. Honourable Member Moniz, you have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . First, just a matter of housekeeping, Mr. Speaker . The Member who spoke immediately before me declared his interest. …
The Speaker The Speaker Now— Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: The Minister is chirping over.
The Speaker The Speaker Go on. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Did the Mi nister declare his interest, Mr. Speaker ? He is implying that he did.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we will continue. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: No, no, I want to raise the point. It is an important point, Mr. Speaker . I just want an answer because we need to know that.
The Speaker The Speaker To be honest with you, I am going to have to check the note on that one. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: I do not believe he did. And so just . . . it is important, because there are commercial vehicles involved. I believe he has a beneficial interes t …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 1. Honourable Member , you have the floor.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mrs. Renee Ming —and listening audience. First of all, I would like to just commend the preparers of this report, because it definitely delves into all the areas that we probably think about or we have discussed, whether it be with friends, family around the living room, or the dining room tables. So, …
The Speaker The Speaker I think we have got a hearing problem over at this end.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Me, too, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker It is a hearing problem. [Inaudible interjection]
Mrs. Renee Ming There is nothing wrong with the [microphones] in here today.
Mrs. Renee Ming But, Mr. Speaker , St. George’s has challenges in terms of transportation. And I know that in my time of sitting on the Corporation of St. George’s we have talked about, you know, and in some capac ity tried to address some of our challenges. Some of the things that …
Mrs. Renee Ming Anyhow, we are going to continue to deal with transportation today. And to be truthful, Mr. Speaker , some of the general lift issues that St. George’s has have [carried over] into other areas, especially probably into our tourism product. And so when you look at the situation with general …
Mrs. Renee Ming —that those issues stay highligh ted. But one of the things . . . I know on page 28 it speaks to East End . . . East End . . . yes, the bus service. And so in the report, I think it primarily addresses St. David’s, because it …
Mrs. Renee Ming But it used to go all the way out to the Martello Tower. That is not a short walk either, and we have people that live all the way out there. So I hope that consideration would be given for those persons who live in those areas. Mr. Speaker , …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Bermu da House of Assembly Mrs. Renee Ming: Because every time I am in town the first thing I hear people saying is, Can’t find anywhere to park . And so as we start to look at whatever the s olutions are going to be, I think we need …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mrs. Renee Ming —especially if they believe the ferry to be reliable. And I think “reliable” is the key word in this because you have to believe that it is coming, it is going to be able to allow you to make your commi tment, wherever that is, and that you do not …
Mrs. Renee Ming Yes. So, I definitely think that, you know, whilst it was an exercise where we spent, I believe it was j ust . . . it was over a million dollars, but it was an exercise that was worth it and needed at the time. It is funny, because when …
Mrs. Renee Ming So . . . so . . . but I say all of that to say, Mr. Speaker , that you . . . over time . . . and the time that I am noting is that time that I used to sit on the Corporation of St. George’s …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . I now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 8. Honourable Member Simons, you have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , as you know, I have been here 20 years.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons And I make it a habit of trying to read the Green Papers that are produced by go vernments on various national issues. I find them very, very educational, enlightening, and informativ e. It gives me a true insight of what is going on in other ministries, be they health, …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Point of information, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Beg your pardon, Member. POINT OF INFORMATION
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, for the edification of the Honourable Member, there is an example of a school bus that leaves St. George’s at 7:20, at Cut Road, all the way down at the end by Gates Fort, and goes through and services all the way up to Bermuda Institute.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Wow. Mr. Hubert (Kim) E . Swan: So it encompasses Wa rwick Academy and all those . . . and goes right up the South Shore, and doesn’t go into town. So, Spice Valley . . . it even goes by Purvis. And someone who works up the West End …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Member, continue.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you very much. I thank my colleague for his contribution. As far as student safety is concerned, as we all know, there has been a history of bullying before and after school, and a num ber of parents have raised their concern about the safety of their children. Again, …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Okay. I have spoken about the one car per family. I would like to basically talk about taxis a bit, Mr. Speaker. The issue of taxis is a very interesting one b ecause taxi drivers are not a harmonious group. Some taxi drivers drive a taxi because that is their …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons But anyway, the guest got the cash and paid the taxi driver. So I am saying this, you know, Come on, taxi drivers. We have to get with it. I think it is time that we put infrastructure in place that will allow these drivers to have debit card and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member In your size.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons In my size, yes. [Crosstalk ] [Timer beeps]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I’m not finished, am I? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Oh, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker [Microphone off ]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Anyway, Mr. Speaker, thank you. I had a few other things to [say], but my time is up. I enjoyed making my contribution, and thank you for the opportunity.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 4. Honourable Member Furbert, you have the floor.
Mrs. Tinee Furbert Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First, I want to thank the committee and persons who put together this Transportation Green P aper because I know it was a hefty task and they did such a wonderful job in accumulating all this data and information, so for that we are thankful. I …
The Speaker The Speaker Tare load, yes. 1790 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mrs. Tinee Furbert: And so there is actually a capac ity in which these trucks are able to carry and a lot of times they are definitely carrying more than their load, and they are not …
Mrs. Tinee Furbert So now I am just going to go on to accessibility transport, which is something that is very important to me. The other day I was in a nursing home and I was talking to a former . . . well, retired senior PTB manager. He is now wheelchair bound. …
Mrs. Tinee Furbert So we seriously, seriously, ser iously need to respect this, because we do not know what our condition is going to be like one day, and we ourselves might need to have access to a disabled parking spot. But I will continue with what some of the community had expressed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Smith from constituency 31. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. Ben Smith First, I would like to thank everybody who was involved with putting together this report. It was extensive. Obviously, a lot of work went into get-ting the information that we have been provided. The thing that is interesting about transport is that most of the time people do not think …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Mr. Ben Smith: The situation is . . . you know, recently we heard about the buses a lot because that has been something that has been causing frustration, and it has been a difficult thing for everybody to try to come up with a solution that was going …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this debate has probably gone on longer than most people anticipated it would, but there is a considerable amount of material in the Green Paper, so with transport as our theme, let me just give a very quick whistle -stop tour of 10 specific …
Mr. Scott Pearman “[The] Ministry of Transport will seriously consider in light of the robberies that have taken place in broad daylight by persons wearing dark visor helmets. ” Well, respectfully, and I mean this crit icism constructively, I think we are beyond the “ser iously considering” stage. Why don’t you just do …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Mr. Scott Pearman —I was quite shocked to see at page 125 of this report the fact that in a survey, and I do not know how many people participated in this sur-vey, but some 22.59 per cent —I will repeat that, 22.59 per cent —so 23 per cent of people surveyed do …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Member behind you. The Member from constituency 11. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Christophe r Famous Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, colleagues, and good afternoon to the people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I am going to start with a quote from a song [by] Jacob Miller. “ Jolly Joseph” the people’s transportation. The song was about —
The Speaker The Speaker I thought you were going to sing for us.
Mr. Christopher Famous No, no, no, no, no. I will sing on Cup Match.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you will be singing a sad song, but that’s all right.
Mr. Christopher Famous The song was about the minibuses in Jamaica. Mr. Speaker, I am going to take a slightly different tact than everybody. I am going to start by recognising some legendary bus operators. Mr. Albert Cann, I think you may know him.
The Speaker The Speaker Somerset fellow, yes.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Bernard Woods , I think you may know him. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher Famous Sorry, the late Albert Cann, the late Bernard Wood. Ms. Lydia Matthew s, the first woman bus dri ver. Ms. Grace, another woman bus driver. And my uncle, and Mr. Neville Tyrrell’s dad, the legendary Boo Brown . The great Boo Brown. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Lillian Outerbridge. Actually, her mom was a bus driver. Lydia Matthews, that’s her mom. [Inaudible interjections] The Sp eaker: You gentlemen can direct your conve rsation this way.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, it is very . . . maybe people do not understand, maybe they do not know this, but Bermuda is one of the few Caribbean islands that has public transportation. If you go to most Caribbean islands, there is no such thing as public transportation.
The Speaker The Speaker You jump in those little vans.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s right.
Mr. Christopher Famous You get it in Barbados. You get it in . . . somewhat, in Jamaica in Kingston. But outside of those islands, you are on your own. You have got to pay for private transportation. Now, there are going to be those who say, Well, that takes a strain off …
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, yes, you remember it. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Anyway, Mr. Speaker, I have never lived up west, never ever. But one night —
The Speaker The Speaker You lost out. [Inaudible interjections] The Speaker: It was your loss. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Definitely your loss.
Mr. Christopher Famous One night a long time ago, I happened to sleep up there. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker We aren’t going to ask the circumstances. You don’t have to let the circumstances out. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, the car broke down. I ran out of gas. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, this is before the 24 hour gas station times . [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Mr. Christopher Fam ous So, this was somewhere in Southampton, Mr. Speaker. Not quite God’s country, but on its way. So anyway, I come off the hill, Scenic Heights Pass and I am like, Wow! All these cars. Must be an accident. And I said, Okay, well, I am going to ease up by …
The Speaker The Speaker You ran out of gas two nights in a row up there? Well, well. All right.
Mr. Christopher Famous Hey, that’s what happens. The gas station was closed. What can I say?
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Christopher Famous So anyway, Mr. Speaker, what happened was that was when I realised this is what people from the west have to deal with every day going to and from Hamilton. And I am saying, I could never live up west because I can’t deal with this. I would have road …
Mr. Christopher Famous Beg pardon, sir?
The Speaker The Speaker It is very scenic. You just enjoy the scenery coming down.
Mr. Christopher Famous And I notice when you drive east, you got to wear glass es and when you drive west, you got to wear glasses. So, I don’t know. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous So, what’s my point, Mr. Speaker? That was the year 1995. And when they had the fast ferries put in place, I haven’t tested it out, but I think the traffic load has gone down. My point, Mr. Speaker, is that whether we have fast ferries, high-speed ferries, slow -speed …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Christopher Famous They will not servic e themselves. Let me move on, Mr. Speaker. Taxis. Mr. Speaker, I live in Friswell’s Hill, five minutes from town. Five minutes. If I call a taxi right now, I would probably be waiting an hour before a taxi comes. That’s ridiculous . . . ridiculous. …
The Speaker The Speaker As long as you do not have t o call A ugustus, you are all right. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Well, if he comes there and I am alive then he might just keep driving. You know? I sympathise with the taxi drivers; they have to work hard. But I do not sympathise with them parked up somewhere while Bermudians are calling looking for cabs, and you are telling me …
Mr. Christopher Famous You backstroke? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Okay. All right. I will check that later on. But anyway, the Uber model cannot work in Bermuda, Mr. Speaker. The U ber model only serves Uber. Uber drivers get robbed. Taxi drivers get robbed. So what is the solution, Mr. Speaker? We heard a proposal earlier this last week …
Mr. Christopher Famous And he was there like in the lion’s den, I wou ld say. But he stood his ground, and he said to them, Shout. Carry on. I’m used to this from Alaska Hall. But my point, Mr. Speaker, was this here. He laid down the law to them. [He said] …
The Speaker The Speaker Run out of gas again?
Mr. Christopher Famous No, no, no, no, no. Different.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Christopher Famous I was patronising a St. George’s establishment. I got a ride down and I said, Okay. I will catch a taxi back. I will catch the bus back. Eleven o’clock comes and I am standing b y the bus stop, no bus; 11:15, no bus; 11:45, no bus; twelve o’clock, …
Mr. Christopher Famous I don’t even want to comment on that one. I sat there until one o’clock in the morning waiting for a taxi. In total time, t wo hours, whether it was a bus or a taxi. No transportation. The taxi guy came and said, Yeah, man, you are lucky, man. …
Mr. Christopher Famous They abandoned it; it has been there for years! Now, some may say, There is a process. Right. But there is also a thing called “a chassis number.” There is also a thing called “registration.” You look up a chassis number, or the engine block number, you know who that …
The Speaker The Speaker Teach them the trades.
Mr. Christopher Famous We have to be real. We need our Bermudians to be motor mechanics. A motor mechanic can make upwards of $100,000, i f not more. If you are a marine mechanic, you are rich! So I am thanking those who put this together, but let’s not forget there are things …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other . . . oh, Deputy Speaker. You have the floor. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a letter was written to the editor some years ago and it was signed by a taxi driver. That taxi driver said …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I tend to believe that that statement is stil l correct. It may be out a few points, but I think it is correct. Mr. Speaker, at one time we had 600 taxis, now we got 44 less. I am not sure why that …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: —then you need to face the stiff arm of the law, t he very strict arm of the law. Mr. Speaker, also, many years ago when you had [William] “Cheese” Ray and Malcolm Terceira own taxis, they owned a lot of taxis, and those …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is right. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: That is what you are supposed to do; regardless of if that lady is 30 years old or 65 years old. That is what we did. We got up. In school, we got up for the girls w ho caught the school …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Does any other Member? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 26. Honourable Member Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker How are you this evening?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell I will try not to delay things too much.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, I would like to hold you to that.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell But I certainly feel compelled to support the Minister in this Green Paper. I think it is a well-done document, and I certainly give kudos to whoever else assisted, the technical officers and ev eryone else. Mr. Speaker, let me start off. I have a few points. I will say …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell So, you know, and my honourable colleague says, It’s because the police don’t stop. So, therefore, they are getting leeway. Next it is going to be 60. Pretty soon, it is going to be 60 [kph]. That is going to be the norm of driving on the road, which is …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Yes. All right. I will tak e your point. And I certainly take the point where the Mini ster in his brief said that the Government “will continue to assist with the work of the Friends of the Railway Trail by taking on the maintenance and repair of each new …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. I now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has been 72 years since the introduction of automated transportation in our fair Island. It mirrors with the same period of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, for your contribution. And, Minister, I believe you are the last speaker at this point. Would you like to do your wrapup at this point? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I would, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker, first of all, I …
The Speaker The Speaker You do not want to do anything to help with the cost. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And as we continue t o try to increase our visitors to the Island, whether it be through cruise or air, the transportation issue will con-tinue to be just that, a challenge. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Do you have any bicycles? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, I do not have any bic ycles.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are a Liverpool supporter. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am a Liverpool supporter,
Mr. Speaker. I say it just in case. The Speaker Too bad. Too bad. [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So, but of course, Mr. Speaker, let us put that to bed. But I must say that it is interesting because, who was it who said that if you do not have a conflict in Bermuda, then—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are in conflict. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —you are in conflict? [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But a couple of things, you know, I would like to touch on, Mr. Speaker. And there were several questions. And I will try to cover as many as …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Point of —
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Sure.
Ms. Leah K. Scott —clarification?
The Speaker The Speaker Clarification? Okay. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes. I wanted to know why we have a grey schedule, the number of bus drivers who drive it, when the schedule actually occurs, and do they get compensated for driving i t?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Thank you, Opposition Deputy Leader. Why do we need it? Because sometimes, we just have to juggle the schedule. And overtime is r equired. And the 1998, the old schedule, is insufficient to meet the 2019 requirements. So, without …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Or any time? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Or any, but in particular this time of year? And sit down in a porta- potty for 20 minutes in this blazing sun. [Inaudible interjectio ns] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: After sitting on a bus for three or four …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member All right! All right! [Crosstalk] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The work to rule is over. But, Mr. Speaker, let me say this, right? I am going to end on this note, Mr. Speaker. And I heard Members opposite asking for that White Paper, almost to a person. And …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ferry fantasy . Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Ferry fantasy is correct. So, Mr. Speaker, we have made inroads with regard to transportation in the country. And I think that, if you look back over time, I think the improv ements that we have made in both buses and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That brings us to a close of the items that are on the Order Paper for today. Deputy Premier. [Inaudible interjection] 1812 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Oh, yes, yes. You have to resolve that. I forgot, for your m …
The Speaker The Speaker It sounds like it passed. The Clerk: It has been resolved. The motion stands. [Motion carried: The House supports the recommendations and priorities set out in the Green Paper on Transportation 2019.]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Deputy [Premier] . ADJOURNMENT Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do move that the House do adjourn until June 21st, Friday, at 10:00 am.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Does anyone wish to speak to that? We recognise the Minister of E ducation. Minister. T. N. TATEM MIDDLE SCHOOL Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to the listening public. Mr. Speaker, last week I announced in this House something that …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And I am quoting from my Statement, Mr. Speaker, wherein I said, “ In regard to the future of T. N. Tatem, this decision to close is, at the moment, applicable to the upcoming school year only. As we move forward with our plans …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And I quote . . . And th is was in response to a question from Member Susan Jackson. And I said, “Mr. Speaker, I will reiterate and try and say it much more clearly. We will not invest any money in the school …
The Speaker The Speaker They may have misinterpreted it. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Misinterpreted it.
The Speaker The Speaker That is a better way of putting it. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, it is clear from this erroneous statement that Mr. Cannonier made . . . I went up to the station on Monday and cleared it up. And they produced it, and they put it on …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, just speak to the Chair. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: But, Mr. Speaker, why I rise to my feet today is because I was shocked to see that the Shadow Minister of Education, after that being cleared up on Monday, put out an opinion piece, ent itled “State of …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, we heard it just now. We heard it. 1 Bernews , 4 June 2019 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —where I said, “ This dec ision is critical and was not made lightly, as a safe and healthy learning and teaching environment is par amount for our students and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ooh. Put a mark on you. Ooh. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, we will not — [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Members! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I will not be deterred by the drivel I hear from the Opposition Leader .
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: An Opposition Leader who stood up in front of Bermuda and said, I will tell you about Jetgate, and we are still waiting. And we are still waiting for that, Mr. Speaker.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh, wow. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The comments on Bernews and the comments on Facebook — [Gavel] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —to the Shadow Minister’s article are telling. And I challenge him to go and read those articles, because the people see through the drivel, and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 8. Would you like to take the floor?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ah! Another Hon. Member: Oh!
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. T. N. TATEM MIDDLE SCHOOL
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I sat here quietly, intently. Obviously, I have gotten under the skin of the Mini ster. Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members!
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons As the Pres ident of the BUT has said, The Minister is long on words and short on actions. And that is why we have the challenges that we have today, Mr. Speaker. He talked about, Mr. Speaker, consultation with the parents, consultation with the students. My article w as …
The Speaker The Speaker Wait, wait, wait! One second, one second, one second. One at a time. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker. He is misleading the House. Bermu da House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, this is the first Minister out …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Okay. Continue. Continue. Continue.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, during my te nure, I did not have the problems that he currently has, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter] [Gavel] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order, Mr. Speaker! Po int of order! Point of order! [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Wait, wait, wait, wait! Take your time! Take your time! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order!
The Speaker The Speaker Take your time. Take your time. Take your time. What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The Member is misleading the House. Because if he was truthful, he would stand up and tell Bermuda that when he was voted out of office, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh! Oh, my word!
The Speaker The Speaker Rise up, [Shadow] Minister.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, I stand by my comments.
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons He is talking about work to rule. Ask him about his principals. They are still on work to rule. And you had the strike last week.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Cleaning up your mess.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Cleaning up my mess?
The Speaker The Speaker Just speak to the Chair. Speak to the Chair. Mr. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, again, same story —talk, talk, talk. And the principals are where they are on work to rule because, again, as I said before, I stand by my article. They have not been heard. Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, well —
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons He has been up here speaking! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I have a point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Calm down. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The Member is misleading intentionally, because I have pointed out where he has said there has been no consultation on T. N. Tatem, and I have pointed out where I said there has been consultation. So, he needs to …
The Speaker The Speaker Just speak to the Chair. Members! Members!
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, does consult ation mean, I am here. This is what you are going to do. I have heard you, but this is what we are going to do? A good example is that of the middle schools — Hon. Diallo V. S. Raba in: Point of order! Point …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order!
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons A good example of that is middle schools.
The Speaker The Speaker Let him just go on a little bit. Let h im go on a little bit more. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: He is misleading the House!
The Speaker The Speaker Let him just go on a little further. 1816 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: He is incorrect and mi sleading the House!
The Speaker The Speaker Have a seat. Have a seat. Have a seat. Continue on a little bit more. I am trying to follow where you are going. Go ahead.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, I wish that Mi nister would calm down.
The Speaker The Speaker Just talk to the Chair. Just talk to the Chair. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] [Gavel] [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker You do have the floor if you want to continue. Talk to the Chair. If not, we can pass on to somebody else.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I think he has lost his concentr ation.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I did lose my concentration that second.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is easy to do when you are making it up. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Come back.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, a number of teachers and principals have said to me, Listen. I want to do a world- class job in the delivery of the services that we provide to our young people. I have values, ideas and contributions that will increase the value of what I can do …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members! [Gavel] Mr. N. H. Cole Simons: Mr. Speaker, one principal came to me and said, All the Minis ter needs to do is meet with their principals on a quarterly basis or semi - annual basis. And they, the Ministry and the Minister, will get a lot of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Be honest!
The Speaker The Speaker Members!
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons —the stakeholders along. Bring the teachers along. [Inaudible interjections ] [Gavel]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Bring the principals along. And listen to them! And not just promote and rush through your agenda. The issue of the middle schools and the si gnature schools . . people have said, This is a major shift in education in this country. And to have anec dotal reasons as …
The Speaker The Speaker Member.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons —the principals are not doing a great job in leading the middle schools. He has not Bermu da House of Assembly said what deficiencies in performance the middle schools currently have, Mr. Speaker. No! He has just said, We’re getting rid of middle schools, and we’re going to signature schools …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is because they did you while you were there. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker Member!
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons They went and did a vote and said, Okay. We cannot get the Minister now. So, we will go wi th the Commissioner of Education and the PS. So, again, somebody may have exerted pressure on them, Mr. Speaker. But at the end of the day, there was unrest because …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2. Honourable Member Swan has the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, just be respectful of your comments going across this floor, please. PGA TOUR EVENT IN BERMUDA
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, for the last few months, particularly in sittings, I have listened to the Opposition, and I have listened to people out in the community walk up and say, you know, What are you doing? When are you going to get any inward i nvestment in this country ? …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan The news this week, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that Bermuda will host a $3 million PGA Tour event is more than proof cer tain that this Government is fishing where the fish are. I would venture to say, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that it is an oppor-tunity for this country to reach …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Oh, yes! Yes. Money — you have to fish where the money is. And why am I making this speech today? My cousin, the late Reginald Burrows, made a similar cry in the early 2000s. Money in Bermuda? Get on board! Get on board with this event. Because it is …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, you have heard it before. And let me tell you this, Mr. Opposition Leader, who is interpolating under his breath, the opportunity is for all of us. And let me say this. The black people in this community do not enjoy the spoils of this community. We do not …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ah! Ah!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Come on. Come on. Come on!
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan That is why. And in my trade, oh, my, my. You know? I am not afraid to tell people what time it is in my trade! [Desk thumping]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E . Swan You want me to tell you why? Because I rode on the backs of people like Herman “Santucci” Bascome, Earl Anderson and the likes, to get where I am.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I am here to tell you, the money that can come t o this shore will benefit the ones on the opposite side who would cry Wolf! against it before it is likely to benefit those of us on the PLP side. And it is business! [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Nobody is crying Wolf! We support this! We s upport this! We support it.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan No, no. Mr. Deputy Speaker —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Hey, hey, hey. Hey. Let us — [Gavel]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I know of which I speak!
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker We are going to have some order here, you know. Yes. Let us have some order. Bermu da House of Assembly Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I know of which I speak. I just happened to be around a little bit. And I am saying, when you …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I do not mind confessing. I have nothing to . . . not today. I know what it was to tell you, that refer to fine argument against the fast ferries that people that benefited the country or to c riticise the dock up at Dockyard that now provides the …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan It wasn’t so! [Inaudible interjection]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Richards!
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan You know, Mr. Richards is in financial services. He will know that in 2007 and 2008 when ACE, who now are Chubb, were in difficulty, he will know that when Mr. McGavick came to Bermuda, his stock was down to two dollars. That was not caused by anything the PLP …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I am here to say that the opportunity has presented itself today under a PLP Government. So, in closing, Mr. [Deputy] Speak-er, I am here to say this. I am here to say to the Mu-nich Re, who is listed as the number -one ranked i nsurance company in …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And they need to have some connection to know that, hey, if I can be here and support my event somewhere else, there is no reason why I cannot encourage somebody to support 1820 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Bermuda in real ways. Because there …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes. You know, I hear someone interpolating, Why am I not in charge of the Government? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan No, no. I am not going to take . . . Because that is the type of divide -andconquer rhetoric that I was speaking about when I got on my feet! [Desk thumping] [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I do not have to stay in my lane. I am a man who showed up at the place unbeknownst to anybody, and they di d not realise I was black! And I know how to walk in a space. [Timer beeps]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Christopher Famous. Mr. Famous , you have the floor. DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR BERMUDA
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, let me start by saying today is June the 7 th. No more Theresa May. [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous She is no longer the leader of her party because s he did not listen. Because she thought she could keep telling people, No, let’s change course. And they did not want to hear it. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am going to start with a quote: “Let us not seek …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue.
Mr. Christopher Famous This is what somebody [posted] two days ago. “I personally have never seen a politician i n a grocery store. I guess their hous ekeepers do the shopping. So, I will march on them.” This person used their name. The next person said, “I have said for years that the …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Deputy Speaker, in getting to know some of these OBA persons, I realise they are just as passionate about Bermuda’s success as anybody on this side. They might have a different way of how they think we should get there. As you know, Mr. Deputy Speaker, within our own …
Mr. Christopher Famous I am gassing you up. Right? But at the end of the day, did that cause the price of rice to go down? No, it did not. Did that cause more affordable houses? No, it did not. Did it cause our children to score better on IGCSEs? No, it did …
Mr. Christopher Famous Are they trying to bait me up? Then I go and do some research, and I say, Okay. This has a little bit of validity to it. You see? So, we cannot be dismissive of each other all the time. In closing, Mr. Deputy Speaker, again I want to thank …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. We recognise the Honourable Member. Mr. Richards, you have the floor. PGA TOUR EVENT IN BERMUDA Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, before I get into the crux of what I want to talk about, I just want to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, he did. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: I almost said World Cup. I almost said World Cup; I have got football on my brain right now, Mr. Liverpool. We brought the biggest sporting event Bermuda has ever seen to Bermuda. And leading up to that event, during that event …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —a Ms. Leatrice Oatley, who is the Chairperson for Endeavour Community Sailing. And I quote, Mr. Deputy Speaker: “ Endea vour’s programmes leverage sailing as an effective tool for teaching Science, Engineering, Arts and Math, or STEAM education that enriches the learning exper ience …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mm-hmm. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: That is how we made our name with the Bermuda Sloop and the Bermuda Rig. But over time, due to changes in technology and whatnot, our young pe ople got away from that. Now, a certain segment of our community stayed involved. And we …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Say it again. Thanks to the Amer ica’s Cup. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Sailing, horse riding —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Say it again. Thanks to the Amer ica’s Cup. Another Hon. Member: How many of them are going to look like you, bye? Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: That medal is gold. So, you know, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I understand that there are Members who have a jaded view of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mm-hmm. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: There is the Endeavour Middle School Programme; the Endeavour After School Programme; the BF&M (Bermuda Fir e and Marine) No Limits Sailing Programme; the Endeavour Graduate Programme; the Endeavour Club Development Programme; and the Endeavour Maritime C areers Springboard Programme. Now, I wish I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your time is up. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member, Minister De Silva. ENDEAVOUR COMMUNITY SAILING IMPACT PROGRAMME Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am not going to say, like many people in the House, I am not going to be long, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But I just feel I have to r espond to the speaker who just took his seat because he made a couple of . . . Maybe he has been up here all day and he is a little tired. But when he …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member When did it start? When did it start? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: When did it start? No, you had bett er just keep quiet. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: See, Mr. Deputy Speaker, you see what happens? You see what happens when you call them …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes! Another Hon. Member: Yes, let’s peel them back.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is right ! You would not know! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Deputy Speaker. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I would not know. Now, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, yes. Let us go back. I will get back to him. I will get back to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order? Bermu da House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: History and sailing did not start at the Yacht Club.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order? Mr. Sylv an D. Richards, Jr.: We were whalers, we were sailors, we were traders. That Honourable Member needs to read a book called, In the Eye of All Trade.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker All right. Take your seat. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: He says it only goes back —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Take your seat, Mr. Richards. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You see, Mr. Deputy Speaker? You see? Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: In the Eye of All Trade, the book. Read it.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Richards, take your seat, please. Hon. Zan e J. S. De Silva: See, Mr. Deputy Speaker, in the Honourable Member’s zest to quiet me down, he does not listen. I said, where has the majority of sailing taken place in this country? And where does the majority of sailing …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It did not come from the Yacht Club. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: When that Yacht Club down there could have long supported black young men in this country. So, Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Honourable Member talked about the Endeavour legacy from the America’s Cup. That is great. But …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Incredible! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Get an OBE for getting paid to do a job that you did not even tender on. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Honourabl e Member is asking me how much I got out of it. Any …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The recent one, the recent one. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The recent one, yes, got another one today.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Members! Honourable Member, speak to me. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I want to hear the Member, please. 1828 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And, Mr. Deputy Speaker, if they want to talk about bidding on things, I bid on Port Royal, too. [Desk thumping] Hon. Zane J. S. De …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You brought it up. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, no, no. Your bloggers have been to work this week, my dear f riend, the Honourable Member. Look on the bloggers; it has started already. Do not say I brought it up. Do not say . . . But …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No, he did not. Another Hon. Member: He is making it up.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No, he did not. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, I tell you what. Prove me wrong. Prove me wrong. Look at the Bermuda Sun. Too bad I do not have that file with me tonight, because I would show it to him. Because you know …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member They love football, they say. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: They say they love football.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member They do! They do! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I mean, I think we have got some of the most loyal followers of football anywhere! But where are they when it comes to supporting our young black men? Where are they?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Was he there? I am wondering. [Inaudible interjections] Bermu da House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, what colour am I? [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So, what I am saying is, what I am saying is, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is just true. It is …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member A lot of them. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A lot of them. Look. [Crosstalk ] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Deputy Speaker, listen. If we are not going to be honest up in this place, you know, you might as well get out of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Yes, he was. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: All right? Okay? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, yes. He was in the last group. 1830 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly But anyway, Mr. Deputy Speaker, what I am saying …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have got three minutes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. What I am saying, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that these players who will be coming and embr acing Bermuda’s shores are the superstars of the future. They are the superstars of the future. I mean, eight, ten years …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Minister of National Security. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. PRISON OFFICERS ASSOCIATION MARCH ON PARLIAMENT Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, this morning we saw an exercise in democracy. MP Famous talked about what we need to do as a Government, because in just under two years we have had two marches. And people look at the disquiet as …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Hon. Wayne Caines: I am grateful, Mr. Speaker. When it comes to the mould, the first inspection took place in September 2018. A cleaning regime was put in place. An external company has been hired. On the 27 th of May, we have been getting quotes from cleaners. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: We are looking at things t hat we can do and making sure that we can measure. We had a budget in the prison for upgrades, and that was limited. And so, we had to do things on a basis that allows us to look at …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member About who is prettier? Hon. Wayne Caines: Who is the more handsome, of course. [Laughter] Hon. Wayne Caines: And I will make light of it. And our mother would sit us in the room, and she would say, At the end of the day, you are brothers! You sit in …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: If you want to hold us to account, look at the 27 things that we have done to make the prison better. Challenge me when it comes to the gate that was repaired, the razor wire! Challenge me when you are talking about the safety. Are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. We now recognise [Microphone off [Crosstalk ] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: He is getting up to speak. [Crosstalk ]
The Speaker The Speaker I had not acknowledged him. I was as king him, was he aware of the fact that he closes the House? That is basically what I was asking. I did not acknowledge him to speak. I said, Are you aware? Okay.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Would you like to speak? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Most definitely. Oh, no, we are not making it hard.
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker If I had acknowledged him, you would not have been able to get on your feet, see? DEPARTMENT OF CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Right. Actually, I have, quite frankly, appreciated a lot of what has been said this evening. I do believe, as I just listened …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member A rich white man’s sport. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Rich white male sport. So, we are going back and forth over this whole idea of who benefits based on race. And we are both out there, whether it be the PLP Government or when we were Government, trying to bring …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Point of information. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —that will allow us —
The Speaker The Speaker Point of information? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Point of order. I believe the Member is inadvertently misleading the House. I just wanted to just clarify that in Bermuda it is probably the one example where a sport, which is globally dominated by whites, is probably enjoyed by more persons of African descent , proportionBermu da House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —is huge in that respect. The Member makes a correct [statement] about the global sense, in Bermuda—
The Speaker The Speaker You have made your point.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —there is . . . Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think what I have had to say still stands. We are bringing a white event to Bermuda, and that is the bottom line. So, again, I appreciate this effort and I am looking forward, quite frankly, …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Point of order, Mr. Spea ker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott The Honourable Member is misleading the House. He is making it seem as though there is a Bermudian interest in the airport. There is no Bermudian interest in the airport at this time and, right now, not for the foreseeable future. So, none of the concessionaires will be Bermudian, none …
The Speaker The Speaker I think you are stretching from a di fferent perspective there. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Spea ker; thank you, Mr. Speaker. My goodness, man. My goodness. That is why we have this going back and forth. The airport is coming back to us. It has not been …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? Hon. E. David Burt: If I may . . . and it might be more of a point of clarification for the Honourable Opposition Leader will yield. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. E. David Burt: You won’t yield? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: No. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay. Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is uni ntentionally, again misleading the House, because in this type of debate he is trying to create equivalence. So I would hope the H onourable Member in his statement as he …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What are you saying? Hon. L. Craig Cannonie r: I just said it. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Well I can explain it to you, but I can’t comprehend it for you. So, that is the bottom line. [Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I can’t comprehend it for you, …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members! Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —to Canadians as well. But yet, the OBA, when it was Government was ge tting fla k because a Canadian company was coming down to run Aecon. If we just pause for a moment, Mr. Speaker, the public is paying attention. And that is …
The Speaker The Speaker Actually, it never got reset when we were talking. You started at 8:53. You have a few more minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you very much. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Working it out right now. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, Mr. Speaker, I w ill fast forward—
The Speaker The Speaker You actually have just two minutes left. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I will fast forward to my summary, Mr. Speaker. 1838 7 June 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You have two minutes. We have already confused you where we were trying to— Hon. L. Craig …
The Speaker The Speaker You have two minutes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Mr. Speaker, the Premier ended out . . . and I must say that if I were sitting there listening to him I wo uld say that was a wonderful speech. He said, “Well we are the people who we serve; . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Premier. UPCOMING EVENTS Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and good evening to you. As the Honourable Deputy Premier moved the motion to adjourn, and I believe that the House is adjourned until June 21 st, I wanted …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. And, wit h that, we will bring the House to a close. And we will resume again at 10:00 am on Fr iday, the 21 st of June. Members, as we have heard, in between there will be the National Heroes Day. Enjoy your ho liday …
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