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May 26, 2025

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Session Summary

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This was a routine parliamentary session focused on government updates rather than debates. Ministers provided progress reports on several key initiatives including the completed merger of land development companies, the upcoming launch of real-time tracking for buses and ferries in August, and successful tourism investment projects. The session also included typical parliamentary business like questions from opposition members and condolence speeches for community members who recently passed away.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date May 26, 2025
Session 2024/2025
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Speakers 17
Speeches 312

Key Topics

Update on Bermuda Land Management Corporation (BLMC) merger and operationsLaunch of Phase 2 of Shorelink digital transport system with real-time bus/ferry trackingTourism investment updates including new hotel orders and cruise ship infrastructureEnterprise Bermuda Incubator Programme supporting local entrepreneurs

Bills & Motions

No bills were introduced, debated, or voted on during this sitting. The session consisted entirely of ministerial statements, questions, and congratulatory/obituary speeches.

Notable Moments

Minister De Silva announced that Norwegian Cruise Line will fully fund a $22 million expansion of King's Wharf dock in Dockyard
Opposition Member Fahy questioned whether the sewage outflow pipe at Tobacco Bay will be shut off once St. George's sewage is transferred to Southside
Multiple MPs paid tribute to legendary footballer Ralph "Gumbo" Bean Sr., who recently passed away

Debate Transcript

312 speeches from 17 speakers
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Deputy Speaker Disclaimer deputy speaker The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for informational purposes only. The printed version remains the official record. Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY OFFICIAL HANSARD REPORT 26 MAY 202 5 10:01 AM Sitting Number 11 of the 202 5/2026 Session [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Deputy …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good m orning , Members. We will start with prayer s. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner, Clerk ] [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 21 May 2025]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker We have the Minutes from 21 May. Are there any objections or corrections? There are none. Thank you, Members. [Minutes of 21 May 2025 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCE MENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker [Honourable] Members Rabain and Adams have sent their apologies. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. PETITIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. I think we have four statements. And I will be calling on the Minister for Housing [and Municipalities] , Minister De Silva, M ember from constituency 29. You have the floor. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS BERMUDA LAND MANAGEMENT CORPORATION UPDATE 2025 Hon. Zane J. S. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister, I believe you have a second paper you would like to present. Hon. Owen Darrell: I do indeed. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. TOURISM INVESTMENT Hon. Owen Darrell: Madam Deputy Speaker, today, I stand before you to reaffirm the Government’s commitment to responsible and resilient tourism …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Darrell. I call on the Minister from Economy and Labour. I believe he has a paper he wishes to present to the House. Minister, you have the floor. EMPOWERING ENTREPRENEURS THROUGH ENTERPRISE BERMUDA INCUBATOR PROGRAMME Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. I rise today to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I have a couple of Members who did put their names down. The first Member who has questions for you, Minister De Silva, is Member Fahy. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA LAND MANAGEMENT CORPORATION UPDATE 2025 Hon. Michael Fahy: Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. Firstly, thank you, Minister, for your statement. A …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I would think so. I can double check it, but I would think so. Hon. Michael Fahy: So supplementary.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Supplementary, okay. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael Fahy: With that in mind, which I would assume is the case, there has to be an arrangement in place if someone is putting in $22 million to get the berths on the times that they wish. When other cruise ships are coming as well, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I will get that for you, too. Hon. Michael Fahy: Okay. All right, thank you. Next question.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Second question? QUESTION 2: BERMUDA LAND MANAGEMENT CORPORATION UPDATE 2025 Hon. Michael Fahy: Yes, thank you. In relation to the information on the BLMC and the 89 residential units, can the Minister advise as to what the average waiting time is on the list of BLMC residents, given that there's …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, it will.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael Fahy: Thank you. I'm sure the Honourable—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael Fahy: Yes, thank you very much. One supplementary, and that is in relation to revenue streams in relation to that pipe. I know in the Corporation of Hamilton there's a sewage tax. Is it anticipated that there will be some form of taxation from St. George's, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Minister? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That is possible. [Laughter]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael Fahy: And if it is possible, is the Minister aware, and has he had any discussions as to what that rate may be? Thank you. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Why, Craig, you're pretty good. Not yet. [Inaudible interjection and l aughter] Hon. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The Minister said he's . . . not yet. Hon. Michael Fahy: Okay. All right. Thank you. I have no further questions.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your questions have expired. You've reached your full limit. Hon. Michael Fahy: I've reached my limit. Okay. Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There have been no other Members who have put their names down for questions from Minister De Silva. So, we move on to Minister Darrell. I think MP Cannonier has questions. QUESTION 1: SHORELINK: REAL -TIME INFORMATION—LAUNCH OF PHASE 2 Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Good morning, colleagues and …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. While I will venture to get those specific answers, I would say this, that when you start at zero and it is not in place and you get to these numbers that we see, I am taking the liberty to call …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Member, another question? QUESTION 2: SHORELINK: REAL -TIME INFORMATION—LAUNCH OF PHASE 2 Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, a second question. And thank the Minister for clarifying that, not knowing the measurements, he still considers it a milestone. Maybe progress; but I'm not sure about milestone. The second …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Madam Deputy Speaker, while I often have used the term doom and gloom, I am 848 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly surprised that this is the path of which the Shadow is going down. But as he would know, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, point of order. The Honourable [Minister] is misleading the House. I'm not sure what path he's suggesting. We are just looking for clarification, that's all. There's no path being set here, just clarity, that's all. So, for …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: We suggest he's doom and gloom.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister? [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. As I was saying, the Honourable Member from the other side would know that tax increases of the like come under a different Minister, and I've gotten the indication with the shake of a head that …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Are there any other questions, Member? No other questions? Member? [Crosstalk]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member Cannonier, speak to the Chair. Are there any other questions? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: No, no, no.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay, thank you. I don't think any other Members had questions on the Shorelink . There was no one who put their name down to ask questions on the Tourism paper, and that moves us to Minister Haywood. Member Campbell has a question for you. QUESTION 1: EMPOWERING ENTREPRENEURS THROUGH …
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, and good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Minister mentioned that the participants in the Incubator programme have access to resources. Just for clarification, are any of those resources loans?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The answer to that question is yes. They have access to all resources that BEDC actually offers. BEDC actually supports grants which support loans, and so they can benefit from that as well along with the array of services that BEDC provides to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Second question?
Mr. Vance Campbell Supplementary.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Vance Campbell Does the Minister know whether or not the terms of those loans are standard or specific to each individual?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The terms for the loans will be consistent with all other loans that entrepreneurs would actually receive during the budget period. I did outline the volume of loans that were provided to small busi-nesses in the last fiscal period and the way in …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Second supplementary or second question? QUESTION 1: EMPOWERING ENTREPRENEURS THROUGH ENTERPRISE BERMUDA INCUBATOR PROGRAMME
Mr. Vance Campbell Second question. The Minister outlined that over 50 entrepreneurs have been supported over various cohorts. We have 10 more participating in the next cohort. Of the over 50 entrepreneurs, does the Minister have any statistics on how many of those busi-nesses are still existing? Bermuda House of Assembly The Deputy …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplemental or third question?
Mr. Vance Campbell Yes, supplemental.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Vance Campbell I accept what the Minister has said as far as the tools that people are equipped with, but given our population challenges, we can be as prepared as possible, but we still need a customer base in order to be successful. And does the Minister feel that our current population …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The challenges that this Ministry has highlighted as it pertains to our population, is as a result of our ageing population. Our population is ageing rapidly. That's not to say that our ageing population are not consumers, but when we look at the business …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Is there a third question?
Mr. Vance Campbell No, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. That ends Question Period. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I recognise Minister Darrell. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, I rise today and I ask that the House send a letter of condolences to the family of Mr. Ralph Eugene Bean, Sr., affectionately known in the community as “Gumbo.” And I would like to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members? I recognise the Member from constituency 33. Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. Good morning, Bermuda, and good morning, colleagues. I would just like to raise today to extend my thanks and gratitude to the organisers, the volunteers, everyone who helped make the recent Bermuda Day festivities a roaring success. I encourage you to continue to grow from …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Minister from constituency 16. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, I rise this morning to start off on a sad note. I would like to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 2. Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, I would like to start off by offering congratulations to Mr. Quinton Sherlock, Jr., who is a golf professional and is opening a new golf school in St. George’s at the GOLFZON Leadbetter Golf Academy at the St. Regis. It's a …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 26. Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. Thank you for recognising me, and good morning, colleagues. Madam Deputy Speaker, just previously, the term ageing population was used, and I'm here standing on my feet to send some congratulations to some of my ageing constituents. All in their 90s, all in their 90s. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Well done.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Ms. Vernetta Simmons, tomorrow, will celebrate her 95 th birthday. And the last one, I have to declare my interest. It's my favourite aunt, my aunt Ursula Tyrrell, who will be 94 today. So, I wish congratulations go to all of them. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell I wish to send congratulations to all of them, but while I'm on my feet, Madam Deputy Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences to my very good friend, Ralph “Gumbo” Bean. The young Minister only mentioned North Village that he played fo r, but I can …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member Tucker. Member, you have the floor from constituency 30 [sic].
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thirty . . . oh! I keep getting you wrong. From constituency 7.
Ms. Robin Tucker Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. First, I realise that the whole House was associated with the condolences to Mr. Ralph “Gumbo” Bean, but I specifically wanted to get up and just simply express my personal condolences to his family. Most of his, certainly his younger family, grandchildren and even his …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker [Constituency] 26.
Ms. Robin Tucker MP Tyrrell from constituency 26 expressed congratulations to his aunt, Ms. Ursula Tyrrell, for her 94th birthday.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Favourite aunt.
Ms. Robin Tucker His favourite aunt, I beg your pardon, I stand corrected. I believe that is Ursula Tyrrell who used to work at Conyers, and I love her. I also used to work at Conyers, and she is an absolute lovely lady. So I would like to associate MP Scott Pearman as …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 36. Member, you have the floor.
Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, to my colleagues, and to the listening audience. I would like to take the opportunity today to give congratulations to Dr. Yannick Majumair, who happens to be my daughter, who just finished her medical degree and graduated from the Wake Forest University Medical School. It …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 25. Member, you have the floor.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I wanted to associate myself with all of the comments congratulating the athletes, the performers, the participants, and the spectators who brought the energy for the festivities on Bermuda Day. And I'm sure that the whole House would like to be associated with that …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto So, thank you very much,
Madam Deputy Speaker. The Deputy Speaker the deputy speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the member from constituency 29. Member, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, last week I asked the House to give congratulations to the Bermuda …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 12. Member, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I just want to say congratulations — happy birthday to our youngest member in the House, MP …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 18. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Madam Deputy Speaker, and good morning to you. I wish to be associated with the condolences which were …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Premier. Are there any other Members? There being none, that ends congrats and/or obits. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I do believe we have two Bills to be introduced. Premier? GOVERNMENT BILLS CUSTOM TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2025 LAND TAX AMENDMENT ACT 2025 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, I am introducing the following two Bills, which according to section 36.3 of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Premier. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. 854 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly PRIVATE BILLS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That brings us to the Orders of the Day, and it takes us to a resumption in Committee. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, I move that the House do now resume in Committee of Supply to consider the Estimates of Revenue and …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It has been moved that we move into Committee of Supply. Are there any objections? There being none, I call on Member Simmons to come take the Chair. House in Committee at 11 :12 am [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR …
The Chairman Chairman Good morning, Members. We will be starting this debate in the Committee of Supply at about (what time is it?) 11:12 am. This is a five- hour debate. Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year …
The Chairman Chairman Good morning, sir. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I move the following heads: Heads 83, Ministry of National Security Headquarters; Head 6, which is Defence; Head 7, which is Police; Head 12, which is Customs; and Head 88, which is National Drug Control, be now taken under consideration.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. Are there any Members that do not agree? There are none, Minister, proceed. HEAD 83 —MINISTRY OF NATIONAL SECURITY HEADQUARTERS Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, it gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 83, the Ministry of National Security Headquarters found …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Mission Hon. Michael A. Weeks: The mission of the Ministry of National Security is Working together to keep you safe. Expenditure Overview Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, a total of $4,966,000 has been allocated for this Head, which represents an increase of $1,796,000 from the previous year and …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: It is important to note, Mr. Chairman, that the Gang Violence Reduction Team (GVRT), under the Ministry of National Security, was not only instrumental in developing this strategy but also led its drafting and presentation to Cabinet and the House of Assembly. …
The Chairman Chairman Not a problem at all, Minister. Just to remind Members that we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Esti-mates and Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2025/26. We are now debating heads in the Ministry of National Security, Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, and 88. The …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister . Hon. Michael A. Weeks: And as I move on, I would like to thank the staff of the Ministry Headquarters for their yeoman work , led by our Permanent Secretary, Colonel Edward Lamb.
The Chairman Chairman So noted. Thanks, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I shall now present my budget, Mr. Chairman, for Head 6.
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Which is Defence.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, go right ahead. HEAD 6 —DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, found on pages B -268 through B -272 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure. Mr. Chairman, it gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 6, the Department of Defence, found on …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, we did. They did a fine job. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: —for Bermuda Day. Thank you, sir. • International Assistance—Upon request, the Regiment will provide military skills and resources to assist UN, NATO, regional, or inter-national peace support operations or training thereby enhancing Bermuda’s reputation in the international community. …
The Chairman Chairman I was not a Junior Leader. I was a Police Cadet. I enjoyed being a Police Cadet as opposed to a Junior Leader. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: You served our community well.
The Chairman Chairman I never had that opportunity. Minister, as you take a short break, I will simply say that we remain in the Committee of Supply for fur-ther consideration of the Estimates and Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2025/26. Minister, by note, it looks like about 20 minutes is left before …
The Chairman Chairman Clearly. They sound busy, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: So be careful, Mr. Chairman , if you are out on the water. [Laughter] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: My boys are watching.
The Chairman Chairman I will make sure I have all in order. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Working with local and international partners, including US Coast Guard, HM Coast Guard, and the Royal Navy, the Coast Guard continues to provide the following services: a) Search and rescue or recovery. b) Interdiction of illegal maritime …
The Chairman Chairman I did the Outward Bound programme, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes? How was it?
The Chairman Chairman It was good. It was a very good programme. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. We are now reimplementing —it laid dormant for a few years but we are putting some more energy and funds into it.
The Chairman Chairman Very good. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, the Royal Bermuda Regiment conducts many of these tasks in partnership with or in support of other Government departments, specifically the Emergency Measures Organisa-tion (EMO), Maritime Operations Centre, Department of Environmental Protec tion, HM Customs Bermuda, Disaster Risk Reduction and Mitigation (DRRM) …
The Chairman Chairman You are on Defence in Head 6. It does not appear you are winding it down, are you, before Police? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: No.
The Chairman Chairman But no, that's fine. No, that's fine, Minister. We can adjourn for lunch break. If you can just move that we go ahead for lunch break until two o'clock. But go right ahead, Minister. We stand at your leisure. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I move that we adjourn …
The Chairman Chairman The House stands adjourned until 2 pm. [Gavel] Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2:00 pm [Mr. Scott Pearman, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2025/26 MINISTRY OF NATIONAL SECURITY HEAD 6 –DEFENCE [Continuation thereof ]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Honourable Members and members of the listening public. I hope you all had a nice, short adjournment. We are listening to a five- hour debate in the Committee of Supply [considering the] Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the budget year 2025/26. And this five- hour debate concerns …
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: How much time do I have left?
The Chairman Chairman Wel, l think you were one hour and 15 minutes into it. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman So, some time to go still. I think — Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Four hours.
The Chairman Chairman Well, I think it's five hours and I think the conclusion is . . . I'll double check but I think it's something like 5:45. But I'll check. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: No problem.
The Chairman Chairman I'll check the conclusion time for you. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I was just asking that for the listening public.
The Chairman Chairman Excellent. Not nearly long enough is the answer, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Right. Okay. Plans for the Upcoming Year Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Plans for the upcoming year is where I left off, Mr. Chairman. So, Mr. Chairman, the coming financial year will see the Defence Department conduct Recruit …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Head 6. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Over 100 soldiers have just returned from overseas camp 2025, in Jamaica. Addi-tionally, a smaller overseas camp, Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, is scheduled for June where our JNCO Cadre [Junior Non- Commissioned Officer] will be taught essential leadership development skills before Bermuda House of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Does that take us on to Head 7? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, it does, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Excellent. Minister, when you're ready you have the floor. HEAD 7 —BERMUDA POLICE SERVICE Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, it gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 7, the Bermuda Police Service, found on pages B -273 to B - 276 of the Budget Book. The …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: The total current expenditure for the 2025/26 financial year is estimated to be $69,769,000. This represents an increase of $4,931,000, or 8 per cent from the 2024/25 financial year. This change is due primarily to salary increases, resulting from negotiations between the various unions and …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I will highlight the material changes year over year. Mr. Chairman, with a projected budget of $69,769,000, Salaries and Wages represent 79 per cent of the Bermuda Police Service budget. The budget for salaries is $54,860,000, an increase of 9 per cent. The budget for …
The Chairman Chairman Sure. As the Minister is just getting himself organised or more organised, we are in the Committee of Supply for Estimated Revenues and Expenditures for the budget year 2025/26, This is currently a five- hour debate on the Ministry of National Security and we are hearing from the Minister of …
The Chairman Chairman There we go . You have three minutes less . . . three minutes less. This debate has five heads, Head 83, 6, 7, 12 and 88 and at the moment we are on the third of the five heads, Head 7, Police . Minister, if you're ready, please continue. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. As you prepare the next head, we are in the Committee of Supply for Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for budget year 2025/26. The specific debate this after-noon is the debate on the budget for the Ministry of National S ecurity. We have been listening to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Got that?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: The additional position is planned to be used at the airport. The total approved establishment of the Customs Department is 228 positions. Mr. Chairman, of the remaining expense lines the more significant changes are as follows: • Other Personnel Costs are estimated to be $200,000, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: —a capital development project, business unit 75372, Building Dock Scanner Hall, $395,000 has been allocated to replace the Hamilton Dock Scanner Hall Building. The existing building has been in place since 2012 and has fallen into disrepair and is in urg ent need of replacement …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: —business unit 76473, Office Furnishings/Fittings, $10,000 has been allocated for the purchase of replacement office chairs. Also, on page C -15, business unit 76500, Heritage Wharf Scanner, $127,900 has been allocated to purchase a new X -ray scanner to be used at the Heritage Wharf …
The Chairman Chairman Head 88, I think. National Drug Control Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Head 88, National Drug Control.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Thank you, Honourable Minister. If you want to take a quick break, I will just remind the Honourable Members in the Chamber and the members of the listening public that we are the Committee Bermuda House of Assembly of Supply for Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the budget …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good. Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, we have it. Thank you. Sorry, my microphone was off. Yes, we have it. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Mandate or Mission Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, our mission. The mandate of the Department for National Drug Con-trol is to Lead efforts to reduce the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, and that is at page B -285. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. Okay. The increase is related to negotiated salary uplifts for one staff. Funding is allocated to facilitate activities that are primarily targeted towards public education, community development, information dissemination and to support a grant of $60,000 to …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry. Page C -15, Grants and Contributions. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. 878 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I’m sorry. Yes.
The Chairman Chairman No. I’m with you. Business Unit 98020, Prevention Unit Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Mr. Chairman, an allocation of $247,000 is provided to support the Prevention Unit efforts in business unit 98020. This is a $6,000 increase in the allocation from 2024/25 due to the negotiated salary uplift for one …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry. I think it should be C -21, not C - 221. Yes? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Page C -21, yes.
The Chairman Chairman National Drug Control. These are the grants and contributions. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Sorry. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I will have to be a little more clear because I did say C -21.
The Chairman Chairman My mistake. I thought you said C -221. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman I’m with you. But anyway, we are in the same place. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. Business Unit 98050, Research and Policy Development Unit Hon. Michael A. Weeks: All right, Mr. Chairman. Moving on. The Research and Policy Development Unit, business unit 98050, on page B -285. has an allocation of $326,000, which is a 20 per cent, or $55,000 increase, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Page C -15. Capital Expenditure Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, in fiscal year 2024/25, the Department of National Drug Control was provided with $3,000 to upgrade the security system in the main office. This was completed. In fiscal year 2025/26, the Department of National Drug Control has been …
The Chairman Chairman So, we are now moving on to page B - 288? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. Performance Measures by Business Unit Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to report that the department’s forecast performance measures for fiscal year 2024/25 were achieved in the majority of funded cost …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. As the Minister is getting himself a glass of water, for the benefit of the listening public, we are in the 880 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Committee of Supply for Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for budget year 2025/26. The debate we are …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. And all of these grants can be found at page C -21 of the Budget Book. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. Mr. Chairman, CADA works in collaboration with the Department for National Drug Control to provide community education on alcohol misuse, as well as to provide the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Business unit 98010, Community Development.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. So, we are going back to pages B-288 and B -289? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, sir.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Business Unit 98010, Community Development Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, the goal of this unit is to educate the public about the harms of alcohol and drug use, to ensure the provision of clear and sustained messages to our young people that no use of alcohol, cannabis, tobacco …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Business Unit 98020, Prevention Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, the Prevention Unit is responsible for providing drug prevention programmes for schools and the wider community with the goal of stopping use before it starts. The Prevention Unit facilitates the implementation and integration of the Al’s Pals programme at …
The Chairman Chairman Almost there. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman I hope you heard all the cars tuning out for your speech. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Tuning out or beeping?
The Chairman Chairman They were tuning, beeping and tuning. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Oh, okay.
The Chairman Chairman There was no doubt, they were so excited about the speech being given in Parliament today that they were— Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Have mercy.
The Chairman Chairman —hitting the horns. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. Okay. Business Unit 98060, Men’s Treatment Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, and members of our listening public, the Men’s Treatment programme is a Residential Substance Abuse Treatment programme for men 18 years and above in Bermuda. It provides long- term, comprehensive …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Business unit 98070, Women’s Treatment.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. We are on page B -289 of the Budget Book for those in the listening public. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Business Unit 98070, Women’s Treatment Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, the Women’s Treatment programme provides long -term, comprehensive treatment for addiction and related disorders. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. If I could pause you just there. I know that you are still addressing the Chamber on Head 88, being the fifth and final head of your five heads in the debate on the Ministry of National Security. We are going to have a change in the …
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members and listening audience. We are currently in Committee of Supply for the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditures. We have the Minister for National Security up right now and he is doing Head 88 of his brief. We have approximately one hour and probably about 40 minutes left. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister Weeks. We appreciate you getting that brief sorted. At this time, I would like to ask if any Member would like to speak. I recognise the Member from constituency 10,
Mr. MP Robert King. Mr. Robert King Thank you, Madam Chairman, Honourable Members and the listening public. I will be brief. I will ask questions just for clarification, et cetera. I don’t anticipate being up here a long time because it was a very comprehensive brief given by the Minister for National Security. First of all, I …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, just for the sake of clarity, so you have agreed to answer each of the heads that the Member has just spoken to as it relates to Professional Services and Training first? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I just need to wait until I hear from my team.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Robert King Well, in that case, just in the interest of time, I will keep it going and then you can answer as you get the answers. Is that agreeable? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Member, I just want to make sure that the Minister understands that if he is answering that way and for you, from a time expediency —
The Chairman Chairman —you may not have all the time that you want. So, you can choose basically if you want to do one question/one answer. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Or you can just pose all you questions and then the Minister’s team will have enough time—
Mr. Robert King That sounds good. 886 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: —to provide you with those responses. I think that better serves —
Mr. Robert King No, no, no. I agree.
The Chairman Chairman —the listening public as well.
Mr. Robert King I am going to run out of time, I can see that.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. So, we recognise—
Mr. Robert King No worries.
The Chairman Chairman —the Member from constituency 10, MP Robert King.
Mr. Robert King Regarding the National Drug Control, and the work that they do with treating persons with substance use disorders and it was actually . . . I thoroughly enjoyed when Minister Weeks was speaking about that because that used to be your wheelhouse. Right, si r? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, …
Mr. Robert King Yes. So, what I picked up on was basically the general regard and . . . yes. So that was encouraging to hear that. So, regarding the Treatment Courts, the way they currently operate, understanding that it is an intensive programme, and rightly so, because of the risk needs associated …
The Chairman Chairman Member, just asking if when you are speaking, just let us know the page and the—
Mr. Robert King Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
The Chairman Chairman —that you are on so that we can follow you.
Mr. Robert King Yes, yes.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. Robert King Okay. I am referring to the NDC, so that would be Head 88, page B -286. And what I am speaking to basically is the overarching philosophy as it relates to . . . the Minister made a statement about CADA and the stats that he was giving in terms …
The Chairman Chairman Member, just what page are you on?
Mr. Robert King Oh, yes, sorry. Head 7—
The Chairman Chairman MP King, excuse me. What page are you on?
Mr. Robert King Page B -274. Sorry. Page B -276, sorry.
The Chairman Chairman Page B -276.
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed.
Mr. Robert King Eastern area command, Western area command. The question I have, Are those police stations operational with a full -time staff? In terms of Head 7, page B -275, Revenue source, Firearms, $9,000, $19,000, $19,000—I was a bit confused. It reads as though we are selling firearms, but I am sure …
The Chairman Chairman Member, are you on page B -275, which is either the subjective analysis or the revenue summary. Or are you on the performance measures which are actually on page B -277?
Mr. Robert King Page B -277, I stand corrected. Sorry about that.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Robert King I will make sure that I have it open. So, when we are looking at customer satisfaction, like I said, in terms of what is the actual metric, I think the public would be more concerned about the response time, apprehension rates, weapon seizures, how many, quantities —some specifics in …
The Chairman Chairman Which . . . what business unit are you referring to? — [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman We have . . . you said page B -289 which is the performance measures. So just let us know which business unit you are referring to. [Crosstalk] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Of course, you don’t know. Lost probably. You need some help?
Mr. Robert King Yes, it is a big book there.
The Chairman Chairman Member. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, the consultant didn’t you give that?
Mr. Robert King No, no. You have got all the consultants. We don’t have—
The Chairman Chairman Excuse me, Members. Speak to the Chair. Thank you. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Note, I said, Members —with an “s.” [Laughter]
Mr. Robert King Thank you for that. Well, I will withdraw that question because it is covered in the other. So that is fine. What we have also seen is that the current approach is not working. So in terms of the police budget, the money has stayed consistent. Employee numbers have increased …
The Chairman Chairman Member, we are on . . . we are doing Head 7, Police, now?
Mr. Robert King Actually, I am going to go back to the Ministerial Statement, the brief, regarding the NDC Master Plan.
The Chairman Chairman So, you are going back to his brief related to the budget?
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Robert King: So, the NDC brief spoke about the Master Plan for the NDC not having a budget. And to me that is very concerning because that would be one of the first things that would be considered in a strategic plan to make …
The Chairman Chairman You just need to let them know —
Mr. Robert King Oh yes. Regarding the brief.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Which head did that come under? [Pause]
Mr. Robert King That would be 93007, Disaster Risk Reduce and Mitigation.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, just provide me the page number.
Mr. Robert King Page B -266. So, cybersecurity, how does it relate to the disaster risk reduction and mitigation team contingency plans being progressed? Those are my submissions. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak to the debate that we are currently having in regard to the Ministry of National Security. And we are debating Heads 83, 6, 7, 12 and 88. I recognise the Member from constituency 25. MP Dr. Douglas DeCouto.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes, thank you, Madam Chairman. I am looking on Head 6, Defence. And I do have some questions —
The Chairman Chairman Member, can you just give us the pages —
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Oh, of course. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman We do that we can follow with you.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto I will start on page B -269, which is the department objectives. And I just note under Objective 8, Recruiting, it refers to a standing deployable force of up to 420 personnel. And on page B-272, the performance indicators for the second business unit listed, 16010, Regiment headquarters, refers to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Yes, I recognise the Member from constituency 31, MP Linda Smith.
Ms. Linda Smith Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am referring to page B -265, just to mention the gang reduction budget. It is $1.7 million. On page B-267, one of the performance measurements is measuring the percentage of survey question data showing improvement in skills development and prevention programme. And I may have …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak at this time? I recognise the Member from constituency [22], MP Scott Pearman. 890 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you, Madam Chairman. And thanks to the Minister for his very detailed …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak to this debate? No? Minister, I believe you have a few questions to answer at this time. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Thank you, colleagues, on the other side. (I’m just trying to get things in order.)
The Chairman Chairman Just for the benefit of the listening audience, we are currently in Committee of Supply for the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure. Today we are debating the Ministry of National Security. And that will be Heads 83, 6, 7, 12 and 88. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank …
The Chairman Chairman Proceed, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Dr. DeCouto from —
The Chairman Chairman Constituency 25. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Constituency 25. Professional services versus training, on page B-271, $91,000. This is all medical fees covering full - time staff, copays, and costs associated with uninsured part-time staff soldiers. There was another question for the Bermuda Police Service, [regarding] firearm licensing. MP King from …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Madam Chairman, point of clarification.
The Chairman Chairman Let me ask the Minister first if he will yield to your point of clarification. Bermuda House of Assembly [No audible response]
The Chairman Chairman I recognise the Member from constituency 25. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes, I am seeking a point of clarification. I didn’t quite hear the retention rate or the attrition rate. If he could repeat that I would appreciate that. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chairman. And for my learned doctor, the Regiment aims to recruit 40- plus soldiers a year. And plans for an attrition rate of 30 soldiers. Retention remains high and the Regiment is doing more than ever with fewer people. Although …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. I actually believe you answered all the questions. I was recording them as well. Does any other Member wish to speak to the debate that we currently have going on? I recognise the Member from constituency 10.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Robert King For Minister Weeks, when can we anticipate that we will learn of the recommendations of the cybersecurity report? That’s all. Thank you. The Chairman: Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak to the debate at this time? Minister, no one. So, I guess you can answer that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: So, if there are no other questions —
The Chairman Chairman Let me just ask, does anyone else wish to speak to the debate that we currently have which is the Ministry of National Security, Heads 83, 6, 7, 12 and 88? I recognise the Member from constituency 12. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just over on …
The Chairman Chairman I’m sorry. Did you have any further question? Or was that your final, your only question? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, one more question.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Well, you can ask it at this time. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: In reference to the . . . the Minister said, his answer was that they would be looking forward to the Joint Select Committee forming to answer questions concerning the report that was done on cybersecurity. I …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you, Member. And just for the sake of clarity, the Minister did say that . . . not the formation of the Committee, he said 894 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly they will reconvene the Committee in the new Parliament. Hon. L. Craig …
The Chairman Chairman But I will allow him to answer the questions. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Correct. My apologie s.
The Chairman Chairman That is what you meant? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Correct.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I will answer the first question first, concerning any ransom or whatnot. I think those kinds of questions should be held offline, actually. And that would better be served by the Finance Minister. And second, because the Committee …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak to the current debate? I’ll ask one last time. Does any other Member wish to speak to the debate? Minister, I don’t see any show of hands or anyone rising to their feet. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 83, 6, 7, 12 and 88 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of National Security, Heads, 83, 6, 7, 12 and 88 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Weeks, and to your team. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman We will just give the Minister for Housing and Municipalities one minute to get himself settled. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members, and the listening public. We are currently in Committee of Supply with the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure. We are about the start the debate on Housing and Municipalities. The heads that we will debate for the next three hours will be Heads 90 and 53. Our …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister, you can proceed. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am trying out these new glasses to see how I make out. [Pause] HEAD 90 —MINISTRY OF HOUSING AND MUNICIPALITIES Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Madam Chairman, I am grateful for the opportunity to lead the …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you said “on Head 90.” So does that include Head 90 and Head 53? Or are you about to start Head 53? [No audible response]
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. HEAD 53 —BERMUDA HOUSING CORPORATION Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I would like to go ahead and present the budget for Head 53, Bermuda Housing Corporation , found on pages B-322 and C -22 of the approved E stimates of Revenue and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister D e Silva, for your comprehensive delivery of your briefs. At this time, I would like to ask if there's any Member who wishes to speak to the debate on Municipalities and Housing , Heads 90 and 53. I recognise the member from constituency 20, MP Michael …
The Chairman Chairman Member, can I just ask you to pause for one minute while I change over with MP Scott Pearman? Thank you. [Mr. Scott Pearman, Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you to MP Renee Ming, who's just left the Chair, having chaired the beginning of the debate. This is a three- hour debate on the Ministry of Housing and Municipalities. We've heard from the Honourable Minister Zane De Silva. We're now hearing questions, initial questions, from the Honourable Shadow …
The Chairman Chairman Please. Hon. Michael Fahy: HOME says in their report that, “Subject to appropriate approval of Government commitment and funding, ” (is going to,) “commence preparations for capital work and operations to provide services and accommodation to (a) men experiencing housing insecurity and their vulnerable children and (b) single men exiting …
The Chairman Chairman Please. Hon. Michael Fahy: And the Minister will be familiar with this quote, because it's his . And it was from a press conference in April, where he said, “In the coming weeks, ” (this was, I think, at the Bermudiana housing estate,) “ we will present a medium to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael Fahy: —which is the same sum as the previous year. Now, on Sunday, I went up to St. George's and actually had a wander around Fort Albert, which I have to say is incredibly impressive from the work that was done by the St. George's Foundation, I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Not as nice as Somerset. Hon. Michael Fahy: But it's crumbling. St. George's is crumbling. And notwithstanding anything that may or may not come out of a Privy Council decision—I'm not goin g there before anyone urges me to be careful — there are probably not sufficient sums for St. …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, page C -22. Hon. Michael Fahy: Yes, it relates to the M inister's opportunity to give directions. If St. George's is going to be the kind of the jewel in the crown if you will, for international recogni-tion, because of its UNESCO World Heritage Site status, we have to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael Fahy: And the M inister said in that debate that when we talked about floor space and the things that there's ways . . . we are Legislators . We can do things here. So can the Minister. So, I hope that he considers some of these …
The Chairman Chairman It is a good point to pause. We have about an hour and 25 minutes left in this three- hour debate on the Ministry of Housing and Municipalities. And for the benefit of the Honourable Members, but also for the listening public, we have been listening to questions from the …
The Chairman Chairman Please. Hon. Michael Fahy: It's easy to find. It allows the Minister to give direction s to the Company —just like the Minister can under most quango setups. So, has the Minister or his predecessor given any written or oral direction to the board of director s to do anything …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It takes a long time. Hon. Michael Fahy: But that wouldn't be retail, that would be commercial, I suppose. But the point is made that a master plan for both what was the WEDCO properties, and what were the BLDC. And again, that also was a comprehensive list shared by …
The Chairman Chairman The grant at page C -22. Hon. Michael Fahy: Thank you very much. Thank you for pointing that out for more specificity. I hope that the Minister can answer the question that I posed this morning about what that means in practi ce for Norwegian Cruise Line in terms of …
The Chairman Chairman Shadow Minister, while you're looking at your notes, let me just recognise the Honourable Member from another place who's sitting in the back, Senator Fubler. We have been listening to submissions — [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Senator Fubler. Yes, yes, Senator Fubler. [Desk thumping]
The Chairman Chairman Yes, there you go. And you're getting a tap from the H onourable Minister . There you go. [Committee of Supply, continuing]
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Shadow Minister, we are about two-thirds of the way through a three- hour debate. We have been listening to questions from the Shadow Minister for Home Affairs, Housing and Municipalities, Michael Fah y. Shadow Minister, do you have any further questions you want to put before we open it …
The Chairman Chairman Okay, please continue. Hon. Michael Fahy: I said the Minister couldn't get off that easy, so I don't want him to get off that easy. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Michael Fahy: In relation to, again, going to the Minister 's brief, the Minister made mention of the HomeStart …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Shadow Minister, Member for c onstituency 20. Is there anyone else who would like to participate in the debate before w e— Oh, I see the Honourable Member from constituency 1. MP Ming, you have the floor.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good afternoon, Mr. Chair man and listening audience. I thought that it would be a good idea to le nd my voice to this debate tonight because each and every one of you know where my passion is when I sit in this place and others. And I particularly want …
The Chairman Chairman [That would be] 75003.
Mrs. Renee Ming Absolutely, 75003. The change is not there. And so , I think my colleague who spoke earlier said that St. George's is crumbling. I may disagree on the crumbling side of it, but I do agree on the aged side of St. George's. And if we're going to talk about …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Ming. Is there anyone else who would wish to contribute to the debate? Bermuda House of Assembly I see the Honourable Member for constituency 9. MP Vance Campbell, you have the floor.
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, Mr. Chair man. I just have a couple of questions and a comment, if allowed. For clarification purposes, the Minister mentioned that the Property Operations Department of the Bermuda Housing Corporation is responsible for the maintenance of 710 units, but he also mentioned in several spots of his …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Are there any other Honourable Members who wish to contribute to the debate before we go to the Honourable Minister for a couple of bats back of some questions? I see none. So, Honourable Minister, the floor is yours. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank …
The Chairman Chairman About 45 minutes -ish, 50 minutes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: All right. Let's see what we can do to accommodate colleagues. As I look through the host of questions, I will start by just saying that the Honourable Member MP Renee Ming, no one will ever say that …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The best value? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The best value for that property as it is. We could sit down, and we could . . . Look , we could have left it alone, you know. We could have left it alone. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. …
The Chairman Chairman What's your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Michael Fahy: The Honourable Minister is inadvertently misleading the House.
The Chairman Chairman Proceed. Hon. Michael Fahy: Whilst it was not eventually a housing project, an exceptional amount of work was done in discussions with both the Salvation Army, with the various ministries, that is documented in many places. We couldn't get it over the line, but to say we did nothing is …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, you know what? I'll give you . . . I'll give you something for that. You probably did do a lot of work. The problem is you didn't produce anything. So , you may …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Dormitories. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is saying dormitories like it's a bad word. The fact of the matter is dormitories in this country have a use too. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: They have a very good use. If we didn't have …
The Chairman Chairman Members. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: If we didn't have investors like the Green’ s in this country that saw an opportunity to produce dormitories for their workers, where would — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Where would they be living? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: There was also a question from the Honourable Member Fahy with regard to municipalities. We will get to that. But he did ask, had I given any directions for Bermuda Land Management Company? And I think I answered that by talking …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, as you're checking your notes, let me just remind the listening audience that this is a three- hour debate on the Ministry of Housing and Municipalities and we have 30 minutes left. The debate is due to conclude around 8: 15 pm. Minister, you have the floor.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Thank you. Gee, that goes by quick because I would . . . I know that MP Cannonier wants to have a little word. I am sure he does. But I think the other thing I would like to touch on, because it was mentioned by the Honourable …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member How long? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: How long? Not quick enough. But I'll tell you what, there will be no energy spared getting it done. Well, we're already doing it . . . the Honourable Member Fahy says, how long? We have had a public meeting, first time …
The Chairman Chairman Members. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I can. If you want to call a point of order, I will sit down rather than sit over there and chirp.
The Chairman Chairman Members. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And interrupt. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman MP. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, thank you. So, the other thing the Honourable Member said is that with regard to municipalities and Bermuda Land Management Company, I have the power to direct and get things moving quickly. Well, the Honourable Member hasn't been here that long, …
The Chairman Chairman In 2018. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: In 2018, s o maybe, maybe—
The Chairman Chairman Babe in arms. [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. So maybe you weren't. But I was around . And one of the things that I have found is that . . . the Honourable Member says confusion as to what's going on. If he thinks he's confused, you …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Default? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It was in default in January of 2017. We took over in July 2017. We found . . . wait a minute. They went default in January and never told the country !
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Never told the country that we were in default. We found out in July 2017 that guess what, $160 million was due and had to be paid. But we never hear too much about that. But we want to talk about BBR and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Put them in your brief. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Honourable Member says, put them in my brief . I did. I explained in my brief that we were over $200 million heading to $250 million in debt. [Inaudible interjections] 920 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House …
The Chairman Chairman Members, come on. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Minister's just sort of putting the pin o n the tail o f the donkey over there. He’s lost. You know, obviously, Morgan's Point has hit a nerve. Morgan's Point has hit a nerve, and it should hit a …
The Chairman Chairman Members —speak to the Chair. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: If I would have been in the OBA, Mr. Chairman, I' d be afraid to show my face around the country. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Speaker . . . oh, Mr. Chairman, sorry. …
The Chairman Chairman I think you've got about 10 minutes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. All right. Well, one thing, one thing else I have to touch on is the Honourable Member talked about the charity HOME and the 1,100 homeless people. And he said he— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. …
The Chairman Chairman Okay, thank you very much. Does any other Honourable Member wish to contribute to the debate? I see the Honourable Member, Shadow Minister of Fa hy, constituency 20. Y ou have the floor. Hon. Michael Fahy: Thank you to the Honourable Minister for some interesting lessons that he believes are …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, there was another M ember in the back, but I don't know if he's going to yield. Okay, Minister, you have the floor. We have about three or four minutes left. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay, thank you, and I'll do my best to accommodate my Learned …
The Chairman Chairman You have time for one more answer. 922 26 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That was it. The only other thing that I had was from Mr. Campbell when he talked about Dr. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. It has been moved that Heads 90 and 53 be approved as printed. Is there any objection to that motion? There being none, Heads 90 and 53 are approved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Housing and Municipalities Heads 53 and 90 were approved and stand part of …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, would you now move that the Committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit again? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chair man. Mr. Chair man, I move that the Committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit again.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the C ommittee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? There being none, the Committee shall rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit again. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good evening, Members. I understand that the Committee requested approval to rise and report progress , [and sought leave to sit] again. And that indeed met with no objections. So that brings us to the next Order of the Day and I understand that . . . I recognise the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Thank you, Premier, for that notification. The Member who was going to carry the motion this evening is unfortunately absent . And so, there being no other O rders . . . Mr. Premie r. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Madam Chair . . . …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It has been moved that we adjourn until Wednesday, the 28th. Are there any M embers who wish to speak to that motion? I recognise the Member from constituency 2. Member, you have the floor. SPIRIT OF VOLUNTEERISM
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I'm very moved to speak today on the motion to adjourn about the spirit of volunteerism which was sort of alluded to today on more than one occasion, but I have mentioned this on my radio programme, “ Tourism in Focus, ” on more …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to the motion? No other M embers? Well, Members , we stand adjourned until May 28. [Gavel] [At 8:30 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Wednesday, 28 May 2025. ]
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