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House of Assembly Session 2018/2019 298 speeches

March 8, 2019

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Session Summary

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This was primarily a question period session where Opposition MPs questioned Premier David Burt about various government policies. The Premier defended the planned municipal reforms, saying they would create more efficient infrastructure management while maintaining that corporations wouldn't be "dissolved." Questions were raised about why children weren't interviewed in a recent Child and Family Services abuse investigation, with the Premier offering bipartisan cooperation on child protection issues. The Minister of Health provided an update on new child care safety standards and inspection processes for day care centers.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 8, 2019
Session 2018/2019
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Speakers 16
Speeches 298

Key Topics

Municipal reform - converting the City of Hamilton and Town of St. George's corporations into government-controlled "quangos"Child safety concerns - questions about investigations into abuse at the Department of Child and Family ServicesSex offender sentencing and monitoring following a recent public demonstrationFinTech business development and banking challenges for cryptocurrency companiesChild care center oversight and safety standards

Bills & Motions

Bermuda Educators Council (Exemption) Amendment Order 2019 - submitted for information only
No bills were formally debated or voted on during this sitting

Notable Moments

The Premier acknowledged that FinTech company Binance left Bermuda due to banking challenges, but said they're now re-engaging as banking services improve
Heated exchange over municipal reform, with the Premier saying there had been adequate consultation despite concerns from St. George's stakeholders
The Premier committed to having the Attorney General meet with Opposition members about child protection concerns

Debate Transcript

298 speeches from 16 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, M embers. [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 6 March 2019 ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of the 6 th of March have been circulated. Are there any corrections or omissions? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 6 March 2019 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The Speaker The Speaker There are none this morning. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COM MUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There is one paper to be communicated this morning, in the name of the Minister of Educ ation. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. BERMUDA EDUCATORS COUNCIL (EXEMPTION) (2018 TO 2019 SCHOOL YEAR) AMENDMENT ORDER 2019 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the following: Berm uda Educators Council (Exemption) (2018 to 2019 School Year) …
The Speaker The Speaker There is one this morning from the Mi nister of Health. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. CHILD CARE OVERSIGHT AND REGULATION Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker , today I stand b efore this Honourable House to provide an update on developments in improving the safety and enhancing the learning space for our infants and toddlers. Mr. Speaker , I rose in November 2017 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. There are no further Statements this morning. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PREMIER’S QUESTION TIME [Standing Order 17(11)(i)]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, today is the second Friday of the month, which is the day that we will hold Premier’s Questions on our Order Paper. Just to give us a few guidelines and remind you of the guidelines, the guidelines for the Premier’s Questions are as follows: • The question to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thank you very much for the introduction of the rules, and from this perspective, I also want to take this opportunity to wish all of the women of Bermuda a very happy International Wo men’s Day. …
The Speaker The Speaker Let us answer the question, sir. Let us answer the question. Hon. E. David Burt: I will most happily do so. Mr. Speaker, in regard to the question which came from the Leader of the Opposition, the feedback that has been taking place throughout this process of the conversion of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear , hear!
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Would you like to put a s econd question or a supplementary? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTAR IES Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bearing all of that in mind, can the Premier tell us what he believes to be the diff erence in concerns between St. George’s stakeholders and Hamilton stakeholders ? Having been myself to one of those meetings, I recognised …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: I thank the Honourable Member for his question. I did not attend the St. George’s town hall [meeting] , and I have not been apprised of the full issues regarding the consultation. But, on a broad level, the fact is that the two corporations are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second question or supplementary? Hon. L. Craig C annonier: Supplementary. I appreciate the Premier’s short speech on that. I am quite surprised that he is not aware in total ity of the concerns of the St. Georgians, knowing that this was pretty much one of the first meetings …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the legislation before us is the amendments to the Municipalities Act. The question was as ked regarding the feedback from the individual corporations. I told the Honourable Opposition Leader that I did not attend the meeting, but …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you like to put your second question now? Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: LONGER JAIL TERMS FOR SEX OFFENDERS Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Premier. Yes, second question. Considering that we just recently ha d, I believe it was on Monday, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That was Friday. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Was it Friday? I am s orry. Thank you for the correction—Friday. What were the main concerns that the d emonstrators had?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I believe that this might be a matter of public record. I think that Ms. Juanae Crockwell, who led it, was speaking about the issues, in their view, of the inadequacy of sentencing and other particular items. So, I think that …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank y ou, Mr. Speaker. Bearing that in mind then, have any discussions been had since the demonstration or any further thoughts given to the next steps concerning those grave concerns that they had?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very muc h, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a number of my caucus colleagues, and I think even a few Members from the Opposition, went to greet the persons who were gat hered at Parliament one week ago. During those conversations . . . …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Hon. E. David Burt: This Government has already delivered, following the Joint Select Committee’s r eport and recommendation, a register of sex offenders. This Government has made changes to the treatment that happens, mandatory treatment inside of prisons, and also mandatory monitoring of persons who are newly convicted. …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: No. New question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. This is your last question, your third question. QUESTION 3: CHILDREN LINKED TO DEPARTMENT OF CHILD AND FAM ILY SERVICES ABUSE NOT INTERVIEWED Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bearing that in mind, and in the light of the last vein …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the question from the Honourable Opposition Leader. But, as the Honourable Opposition Leader has been a former Premier , he would know that issues that deal with matters of discipline inside the public service are not within the boundaries …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTAR IES Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Supplementary. Is the Premier aware of any other organis ations that may be investigating or questioning the chi ldren who were involved in this particular situation?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Is the question, am I aware of anything else that is going on?
The Speaker The Speaker Just restate your question. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Sure. Is the Premier aware of any other organis ations, departments, corporations or the like . . . is he aware of anyone else or [any] other institutions that are investigating or questioning the kids involved in this particular abuse situation?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, at this time, I am not aware. However, I undertake to ask the Attorney General, who has responsibility for the Department of Child and Family Services, and revert to the Minister. I think that on this one we do not have to particularly …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That brings to a close— Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Okay. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Supplementary. I appreciate the Premier’s answer in the light of what he just said, playing politics. Certainly, I am not playing any politics with this. This is a serious, s e-rious, serious situation , as we read in the newspaper on a regular basis …
The Speaker The Speaker Put a question. Put a question to it. Put a question. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. I just want to get a commitment from the Premier that he will make this a priority to address the issue, because I am concerned that there may be other cases coming forward.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, what I can say is that it is w ithout question a priority for this Gover nment. I will ask the Honourable Attorney General to have a conversation with the Opposition Leader so that he can be fully apprised of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That brings us to a close of the Opposition Leader’s three questions. The next Member who has a question would be the Member from constituency 10. Member Dunkley. QUESTION 1: FINTECH MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING UPDATE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to you, to …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Regarding the issue of the company Binance, it is well known as part of the public record that B inance came to Bermuda with the intention of setting up their global compliance operation. But one of the things that they could …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I thank the Hono urable Premier for the answer. In regards to the MOU with Binance, the B inance Holdings Limited committed, and it was item number 3. They committed to, through the Binance Foundation’s sponsor, university -level training for Bermudians in blockchain technology …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, there has been no money contributed to the FinTech Development Fund. When there is money that is contributed to the FinTech Development Fund, I will be the first one to come to this House to say so. I think what we have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Your second supplementary. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Colleagues will support good initiatives for Bermuda.
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. Put your question. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Premier referred to the FinTech Development Fund, which is not mentioned in item number 3 of the do- ables by Binance Holdings. So, I ask the second supplementary to the Honourable Premier. Item number 4 says that B …
The Speaker The Speaker That brings a close to the questions from the Member from constituency 10. The next Member who indicated that he had a question would be the Member from constituency 31. You passed? The next on the list would be the Deputy Premier.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No, the Deputy Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker. I am sorry. Deputy Speaker, I am sorry. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: That is fine. [Laughter] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I certainly do not need that position, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Speaker, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: BERMUDIANS WORKING O N CONSTRUCTION OF NEW AIRPORT TERMINAL Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Premier, what percentage of Bermudians are working on the construction of the new air term inal? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, any further questions or a su pplementary? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: No, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker No? We will move on to the next Member. The next Member on the list is the Member from constituency 19. Honourable Member, would you like to put your questions? [Inaudible]
The Speaker The Speaker None? Okay. The next Member would be the Member from . . . and I do not see him in his seat, [constituency] 9. Okay. Bermuda House of Assembly The Deputy Opposition Leader, would you like to put your question? No? Declined. Okay. The next Member on the list would …
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Christopher Famous How are you doing, sir?
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: PROGRESS OF WORK BY ENGINEERS AT KING’S WHARF
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I am sure that the Honourable Members will have seen the considerable works —I say “ considerable” works —at King’s Wharf in Dockyard. Can the Premier confirm that Bermudian engineers are managing that project and it is largely on schedule [for] completion this spring before cruise ship season …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you like to put a supplementary?
Mr. Christopher Famous No, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. The next Member who has a question for you this morning, Premier, is the Member from constituency 22. The Honourable Member, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: INVESTIGATION REPORT OF DEPARTMENT OF CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the House is aware, former Minister Michael Weeks commenced an investigation at DCFS [Department of Child and Family Services] with a r eport that was due at the end of October of 2018. Has this report been provided to the Premier, and has the Premie …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Reports do not come on these particular instances to political officers. They go, or are handled inside of the public service. So, the an-swer to your question is no.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary ? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary. Is the Premier aware who it is at the Depar tment of Internal Audit who is now carrying out the i nvestigation at DCFS?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: My assumption would be that it would be the head of the Department of Internal Audit. I believe the public officer’s name is Ms. Roseanne Foy. If it is not specifically her, I will get the specific information for the Honourable Member.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary and final.
Mr. Scott Pearman Given the allegations that the complainants at DCFS were not interviewed as part of the report, would the Premier now support a call for an independent lawyer or judge to be appointed to ha ndle this inquiry properly?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I would be happy to take that particular item under advisement. I am not prepared at this point in time to make any such com880 8 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly mitment on the floor. As I talked to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That brings a close to your questions, Member. The next Member who has ind icated that she has questions for you, Mr. Premier, is the Member from constituency 20. Member, would you like to put your questions? QUESTION 1: INTER -ISLAND COMMUNICATIONS CONTRACT
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, P remier. My question is around a gazetted PATI [ Public Access to Information] request that has been published between a contract that was made between the Department of Communication and Inter -Island Communications. I would like to know what the total co …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I do know that Standing Orders are not going to require me to answer a question that requires me to go with full r esearch on such a matter. So, I can certainly undertake specifically to get that particular answer back to t …
The Speaker The Speaker To the Member, to the Member. Hon. E. David Burt: What I would say, however, is that . . . to the Honourable Member (sorry, Mr. Speaker)—
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is i ncorrect. It is not a PATI request. It is part of a PATI disclosure. So, there was no request. Contracts that exceed a value of, I think it is $50,000, have to be gazetted. And so, all things are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or . . . You are fine? SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. My supplementary would be simply be that, yes, I look forward to the total amount of all of the itemised lists of all of the services for the duration of that contract, which, to me, is f rom 2018 to 2019. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Next time, try to put it in a question. The next Member, Mr. Premier, who has a question for you is the Member from constituency 8. Honourable Member, would you still like to put your question? QUEST ION 1: SALARY INCREASE FOR CIVIL SERVICE
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Premier, the 2018 Budget indicated that the civil service would get a salary increase of 2.5 per cent, retroactive to April 1, 2017. In this year’s budget, we say that, and I quote, “Included in . . . operating expenses is the 2.0% salary increase …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am a little bit confused by the question. I know that negotiations are taking place between the unions. I know that there was a mandate that was laid down by the Cabinet for a 2 per cent increase. I am …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Pr emier! Hon. E. David Burt: —that there was no increase for public officers —
The Speaker The Speaker That brings us to a close. Hon. E. David Burt: —under the former Government, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections and desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker That brings us to a close of the 30 minutes allotted for the Premier’s Questions. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker However, we still have 30 minutes on the clock for any other questions related to the Stat ement this morning. And, in fact, there is one Member who has indi cated that he would like to put a question to the Minister regarding her Statement this morning. And that question …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I applaud the Minister for the progress that she is making in this space. But I think what we need to also look out for, who are also key stakeholders in this industry, are the teachers and leaders in the schools. I am not …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Member for his question. However, the Statement that I read does speak specifically to the standards, the child care standards of Bermuda. And no reference was made with respect to outstanding payroll tax and health i nsurance …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you like to put a supplementary question or a new question?
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Yes. Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker A new question, because I think that question was off -base. So, just put a new question.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Okay. My supplementary . . . okay, new question.
The Speaker The Speaker New question, yes. QUESTION 2: CHILD CARE OVERSIGHT AND REGULATI ON
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons We have to ensure that our teachers are committed and dedicated to delivery of world -class standards to these young people. And they can ill afford to have actions going on within their classroom settings because they are unhappy with their terms of employment. Can the Minister [assure us] somehow, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. W ilson: Mr. Speaker, as I indicated in the Statement, the inspections with respect to the child care centres and the day cares deal with things like fire certificates, liability insurance, staff applic ations and educational qualifications. It does not relat e to payroll and outstanding …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. That brings us to a close of our Question Period this morning. We can move on. The Clerk: Written answers to Parliamentary Questions.
The Speaker The Speaker The written questions and responses have been carried over until Monday. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Minister of Education. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I ask that this House send co ndolences to the family of Henrietta Louise Jones, [mother] of a good friend of mine, Mervyn Grant, who passed away thi s week. Mr. Speaker, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. We call on the Government Whip. Government Whip, would you like to have the floor at this time?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like for this House to send a letter of congratulations to the Harto Karate School. I have to declare my interest, as that is my home dojo. The Harto . . . [Inaudible interjections ]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Yes, yes, the Harto dojo. And my sensei is actually the Sergeant -at-Arms here, Sensei Arnold Allen. [Desk thumping]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott And this weekend, Mr. Speaker, his leadership was, let us say, put to the test, and he passed with flying colours through his students. They had the Invitational Martial Arts Com-petition at Pembroke School, Sunday School, on Sunday, March 3 rd. You had [the following participants]: • Lucas Frias, age …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott But, Mr. Speaker, I would like to also have congratulated the other judges and instructors, who are all local —Charles Butterfield, Princeton Bailey, Garon Wilkinson, John Doherty, Oscar Lightbourne, Bobby Smith, David Simmons, Al Wharton and Arnold E. Allen, once again. I just want to say that I would like …
The Speaker The Speaker Come and join “us,” you said? So, you are part of it as well. You do a little martial arts , too? Do you do a little martial arts, Whip?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He is the doorman. He is the doorman. [Laughter]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott That is my home dojo, Mr. Speaker. And that is why I say “us” because we are a family. We do everything together. We w ork together, we train together. So, once again, a letter of congrat ulations to the Harto Karate School of St. Lucas. And it is the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. [Inaudible i nterjections and laughter ]
The Speaker The Speaker And you including the whole House in those remarks, right?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you. Include the whole House. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you. The next Honourable Member who is on his feet is the Honourable Member Commissiong. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just wish for the House to send condolences to the family of Ronald Norman Eugene Clarke. Mr. Clarke passed away the other day, and he is [being] buried today. I have been asked to assoc iate Mr. Tyrrell, from constituency 26, with these …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s. She jumped up real quick that time. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker and listening audience. I was going to say the age was the factor, but I am going to stop there.
The Speaker The Speaker Well . . .
Mrs. Renee Ming First of all, I would like to congrat ulate the First Episcopal District African Methodist Episcopal Church on their 133 rd session of the Annual Conference, which st arted yesterday at the Sout hampton Princess Hotel. This is an annual event for the AME churches in Bermuda, and we look …
Mrs. Renee Ming There are some men who have worn the purple, as well. (I was not finished speaking.) There are some men who have joined the fight with us women and have worn the purple.
The Speaker The Speaker I am glad you clarified that piece, b ecause I saw some of these gentlemen in purple, too.
Mrs. Renee Ming Yes. The gentlemen have worn purple, as well. But I just want to say thank you because we recognise that, as women, we are contin uing to fight for gender equality, parity, and all of those other things that w omen fight for. So, the theme this year is #balanceforbetter …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. We now recognise the Leader of the Oppos ition. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Yes, another St. George’s person. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Unfortunately, I want to add my sentiments to the passing of Sakeena Talbot, a young woman whom I got …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: On a congratulatory not e, I had the opportunity yesterday to spend some time with P4 at Purvis Primary. And I want to congratulate them on the work that they are doing in understanding what it is that we do here in Parliament. So, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank yo u, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Tyrrell. Honourable Member Tyrrell, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, all. Mr. Speaker, I would ask that t his House send a letter of condolences to the family of the late Mr. Calvin Bascome, popularly known as “Nancy” Bascome, who is a friend of the family. He will be sadly 884 8 March …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 10. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like this Honourable House to send congratulations. And I am sure that all Members of this Chamber would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Minister of Works. Honourable Minister, you have the floor.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, thank you. I would like t o be associated with the congra tulations to the AME Church on the occasion of their 133 rd Annual Conference. I would also like to congratulate the Honourable Minister of Tourism and Transport, who actually gave the message last night, as a …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Even though he is a “minister,” he will remain as a Minister of the Gover nment, even though he did do an admiral job as a la yman. I would also, Mr. Speaker, like to extend congratulations and ask the House to join me in doing so to the Reverend …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Minister Foggo. Honourable Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, firstly, I would like to give condolences for Mr. Laroy Trott, who was a constituent of …
The Speaker The Speaker Associate yoursel f, yes. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Excuse me?
The Speaker The Speaker They said that it was done. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Okay. I would like to assoc iate myself with the remarks for Nathan Trott. I was not here to give remarks on Wednesday past. Mr. Trott signed a new deal with West Ham United. And he will be with that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. No other Member? The Member from constituency11 (I almost missed you that time), y ou have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Christopher Famous I want to firstly, on behalf of MP Tinee Furbert and myself, thank the class of P6, Williams and Ming, who invited us down to Har-rington Sound Primary School to explain . . . we thought we were going there to explain how legislation was passed. And we found out …
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, we did.
The Speaker The Speaker Good.
Mr. Christopher Famous We got to speak to them about the need for gender equality in politics, because they knew the number of MPs and the number of women to men. And they said, Oh, we need more women in politics. On a sadder note, Mr. Speaker, I would like to give condolences …
The Speaker The Speaker You can associate yourself with that. That was done earlier.
Mr. Christopher Famous And Mr. Wolf e, of Cedar Park. Some people would know him as “Scuffler.” He was a (how can I say?) very vivid character in town . And, unfortunately, he passed away.
Mr. Christopher Famous So, I just want to give condolences to those families. The Speaker: I will be added to that one, too. I know the family well.
Mr. Christopher Famous Thank you. All right.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am sure that I am late. So, I will ask just for myself to be associated to rise today and echo the sentiments of my colleagues to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That brings us to a close of the condolences and congratulations. We will move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURN MENT OF THE HOUSE ON MAT TERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are two Government Bills to be introduced today. And I believe that they are both in the name of the Minist er of Finance. Minister. 886 8 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. FIRST READINGS PAYROLL TAX AMENDMENT ACT 2019 STAMP DUTIES AMENDMENT ACT 2019 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I am introducing the following Bill, whic h according to section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, requires the Governor’s recommendation, so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. OPPO SITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker And again, for our listening public, we are here today to continue the Budget Debate, to di scuss in Committee of Supply the Estimates of Rev enue and Expenditure for the year 2019/20. And this morning, the first Ministry up to be debated is that of Home Affairs. I would …
The Chairman Chairman Good morning. At this time, we would like to resume in the Committee of Supply. Today we are debating for two hours the Department of Energy, Head 89, and this debate will conclude at . . . we will have a break at 12:30 and continue after lunch for a …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, can you guide me to which line you are speaking to, please? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am speaking to “Major Achievements” of the department, Mr. Chairman. If you would just allow me to identify it in the Budget Book. [Pause] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Do you still …
The Chairman Chairman No. You are fine. Hon. Walter H. Roban: All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will continue. The event was a success, bringing insight and knowledge to a diverse group of attendees, ranging from prospective participants in the energy sector, the local renewable energy industry, government officials, local engineers, and …
The Chairman Chairman You have my support there. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the department has worked to find ways to work within its budget and resources by leveraging relationships built through the attendance at conferences and symposia overseas. In October 2018, a Memorandum of Understanding was signed …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, the depar tment will be focusing more on education and outreach in a more consummate approach, rather than restric ting its efforts to the annual Energy Summit alone. The department will still be hosting summits, but it will i nstead move …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Roban. Is there anyone else who would like to speak to Head 89, the Department of Energy? I recognise the Deputy Leader of the Oppos ition. You may proceed.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One of the things I have to say is that I always enjoy being across from the Deputy Prem ier, b ecause, I do not know whether it is fortunate or unfor-tunate, but he answers all of my questions before I get up and ask my …
Ms. Leah K. Scott So, he has a very good—very good support team. Hon. Walter H. Roban: A point of i nformation. I want to make clear that there is no collusion between me and the Honourable Member. We do have a decent working relationship. But that is about it. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. You may proceed.
Ms. Leah K. Scott I think the Deputy Premier might have inherited Bob’s crystal ball. [Laughter] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Let me at least declare my interest, if you do not mind, Mr. Chairman. The Honourable Member and I have known each other for many, many years. We go back long before we w …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Walter H. Roban: But I am glad that she r egards our relationship as positive in working together.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much. Deputy Leader of the Opposition, you may proceed.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I actually just have a few questions. Starting on page B -324, under the Department Objectives, I note that one of the objectives is to continue educa ting the publi c on energy matters. We did have the E nergy Summit in 2018. Are we looking …
The Chairman Chairman Page C -15?
Ms. Leah K. Scott [Page] C -15, yes, cost centre 76689, Energy Rebate. And the Minister actually did talk about this. My question was what the status of the project is. But the allocation was originally $500,000, and it has gone down to $200,000. And I would like to know why. I also know …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Travel? Yes, it has gone from four to ten. And just wondering what that comprises and who is doing the traveling? And is it related to —is it an associated cost with the training? And then, materials and supplies on page B - 325, again under expenditure, has increased from …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes. Yes. Those are my questions for now, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you for your contribution. I now recognise the Opposition Leader. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I, as well, appreciate the brief that was given, and it was heartening to hear that the goal for Bermuda is a low-carbon future. That is very admirable to hear that …
The Chairman Chairman I now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 10, former Premier, Michael Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I thank the Honourable Minister for his br ief. Just a couple of questions, but before I get there, a comment: Obviously, alternative sources of energy are quite …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Is there anyone else who wishes to make a contribution to the debate in regard to Head 89, the Department of Energy? I recognise the Deputy Leader of the Oppos ition.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question regarding the integrated resource plan, and I would assume that it comes under Administration, [cost centre] 99000, on page B - 324. I would just like to know what the update is with the integrated resource plan. I k now that there …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Is there an yone else who would like to speak to Head 89, the Department of Energy? No. I now recognise the Minister, the Honourable Walter Roban, Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. And I appreciate the questions that have been posed …
The Chairman Chairman So, it is a worthwhile investment. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. So, those are some of the interesting things that we are going to make sure that more people in the country understand around energy. And we are going to put more of our judicious resources towards that.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. I recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you. Just to ask a question about the Lunch & Learn. How well attended we re they? Only because I attend a lot of “lunch and learns” just in my profession. And I find them to be actually really effective. And so, I want to know how many people …
The Chairman Chairman Maybe for the House of Assembly Members. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Happy to look at that, as well, if we can, Mr. Chairman. But let me move on and answer some of the questions. Okay. So, I hope to answer some of the questions of the Members opposite.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Minister, you may proceed. Hon. Walter H. Roban: So, I will proceed. Some of the other questions that came up, Mr. Chairman, have to do with the Regulatory Author ity amendments and the fuels policy, and when the amendments to those are going to be deployed. As we said …
Ms. Leah K. Scott That is a good segue, because I just want to ask you a question. Do we have any additional spectrum inventory? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you for the question. The matters pertaining to the matters of spectrum are with the Regulatory Authority. That is not a matter that the …
The Chairman Chairman Is the re anyone else who would like to speak to Head 89, Department of Energy? I recognise the former Premier, the Honour able Craig Cannonier. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I am the Opposition Leader, man. Yes. In the vein, and this has been quite i nteresting and informative, actually. …
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Honourable Member Jeanne Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Mr. Chairman. I just had one question, too. And this is relating to, I guess if you look at the performance measures. I am mindful of the fact that, on page B -324, it says that the department …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Before the Minister answers that question, I would like to put before the House whether they would be interested in going the 23 minutes, because that is all we ha ve left, to about 10 minutes to 1:00. Or, do you wish to break for lunch and come …
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. So, I think you have some questions, Minister, to be answered. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. I am actually quite pleased to hear the comments, Mr. Chairman, of the Honourable Opposition Leader around, obviously he has an interest in the fuel industry, and his comments in relation …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: That is where the new growth is going in energy. So, and this is a global trend. E urope has decided that it is moving to electric cars by 2040. And other progressive countries are actual ly making aggressive targets to move to alternative fuels. …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, I think it is time for lunch. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Of cour se. As I am already standing, Mr. Chairman, I can certainly move that we adjourn for lunch until 2:00 pm.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:28 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:02 pm [Mr. H. H. Cole Simons, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2019/20 MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS HEAD 89 —DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY [Continuation thereof]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members. For the benefit of the public we are continuing with the review of the Department of Energy, Head 89. We have 23 minutes left in the debate. I now recognise the Minister of [Home Affairs], the Honourable Walter Roban, Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: It is about cost to the consumer. And I am not afraid to say this, that for all the lofty plans that some have about renewables and how wonderful they are, if they cannot show this Gover nment —or I think the community —that it …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —of keeping their lights on so they can take care of their families and go about their daily lives. So that is the commitment that we have, t hat is the sort of energy policy that we are looking to build, and to build, particularly, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. I now recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you , Mr. Chairman. I do not have any questions, but what I would like to say is thank you, again, to the Minister for the thoroughness of his answers, for his ability to respond to us and not be dismissive. And I think, Mr. Chairman, if I may, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Is there anyone else in the Chamber who would like to make a contribution to the debate in r egard to Head 89, the Department of Energy? No. I recognise the Minister, you may wind up. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for …
The Chairman Chairman Is there anyone else that would like to speak to Head 89, Department of Energy? No. Minister, you may proceed. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Head 89 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Approved. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Ministry of Home Affairs, Head 89, was approved and stands part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2019/20.]
The Chairman Chairman Now that we have conc luded the debate on Head 89, the Department of Energy under the Ministry of Home Affairs, we now welcome the contr ibution from the Minister of Tourism and Transport, the Honourable Zane De Silva. He will be moving Heads 30, 34 and 35 in the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may proceed. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Chairman, today I am presenting the budget for the Transport Division of the Ministry of Tourism and Tr ansport. The budget appr opriation for the entire Ministry totals $88,496,079 as found on page B -194 of the Estimates of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Chairman, the Transport Control Department’s budget allocation of Bermuda House of Assembly $5,375,000 for 2019/20 is unchanged from the budget of 2018/19 and can be found on page B -204. Under the General Summary of Expenditure per business unit you will …
The Chairman Chairman Tell me. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Staff were there . . . pain ting—painting the building, painting the walls, painting their workplace. That is what kind of staff we have. Now, Mr. C hairman, you will know, somebody will say, Well, look, you know, I’m a truck driver, …
The Chairman Chairman I did. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And I just cannot give enough praise to our civil servants that keep this country . . . really, they are the ones that keep this country ticking. And, to me, we just need to make sure that we highlight them as …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Now I recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader, Ms. Leah Scott —
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you , Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman —and she will respond accordingly.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I support the Minister in his remarks for the civil ser vants and I agree that oftentimes their work and the things that they do are not acknowledged, so thank you. Mr. Chairman, I will start w ith Head 30, Marine and Ports. If we …
Ms. Leah K. Scott [Page] B -200, Head 30, under Training. And you know I am happy that people are being trained so that they are more diligent and eff icient in their jobs, it is just a big increase, so I just would like a further explanation about that. On page B -200, …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay, okay. I think I— [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Thank you. Let us see, again, on page B -200, Head 30, under Other Personnel Costs, that has gone from 70 to 27 . Why the decrease? And my understanding is that there was only one ferry supervisor in Dockyard, Dennis Outerbridge. And apparently, my understan ding is that …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Head 30, under Other Personnel Costs. I guess that . . . I am not sure whether that is the correct one, but . . . Again, on page B -200, under Repair and Maintenance, I understand that one of the cycle parks up at the Dockyard was turned into …
Ms. Leah K. Scott For [line item] 8177, Local Crui ses. Again, on page B -200, the Dockyard cradle assists local vessels in their repairs, and consideration was given to making that an official revenue stream. I would like to know whether it has been made an off icial revenue stream, how much revenue …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. All right. So, Transport Control Department, page B - 204, under business unit 3401 and then 44110, Traffic Control. So now that the vehicle safety and emissions programme has moved under the auspices of Government, I believe that they had a staff of 13. And I think that some …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes, okay. And then I am not sure, this does not fall under a particular head, and I am not sure whether I can even ask this question. So if I am out of line, please let me know. But one of the things that I would like to know …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Some people buy taxis because . . . there are multiple reasons for people buying taxis. And so as a result we have a disconnected taxi service, and it is doing us a disservice in terms people going out in the evenings and wanting to enjoy themselve s. And I …
Ms. Leah K. Scott It says actual outcome. [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, okay. So rry. All right. Well, that ends my questions for TCD. And now I will move to [the Department of] Public Transportation [DPT]. Mr. Chairman, th e mission of DPT is to pr ovide safe, affordable, reliable—and I will say that again, reliable —and comfortable …
Ms. Leah K. Scott On page B -208, under the rev enue summary, estimated revenues were $8.1 million (and that was in 2018/19), and it was subsequently revised to $6.2 million. Why did we not reach the target of $8 million? Did we overestimate it? Or was it due to the multiple cancellations of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you , Honourable Member . Is there anyone that would like to make a contribution to the Department of Transportation on Heads 30, 34 and 35; that is, Public Transportation, Transport Control Department, and Marine and Ports? I now recognise the Opposition Leader and former Premier the Honourable Craig …
The Chairman Chairman I would say it falls under Registration. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Under Registration, yes. I guess what I was concerned about was in calling TCD I recall one incident where they were trying to figure out who is responsible for removing the vehicle. And it was still a question as …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you , Mr. Chairman. I just have a question and this would be under Marine and Ports, page B -199, 3007 either 40150, Mooring and Boat Registration, or 40220, Admi nistration. Last year I raised this question with the Minister. There is a piece of legislation, and I cannot …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you , Deputy Opposition Lea der. Minister, would you like to respond to these questions? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, okay.
The Chairman Chairman We have the Minister of Transport ation, the Honourable Zane De Silva. He is responding to questions raised by the Opposition and other Members in the House. He will be address ing Heads 30, 34 and 35 under the Department of Transportation. Honourable Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ahem! Ahem! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, Mr. Neville Tyrrell, too.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ahem! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And also Mr. Wayne Furbert. Anybody else want to give me an “Ahem”? [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But, no, I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, the Members on this side hav e been . . . quite — [Inaudible interjections] …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Because if it is in som ebody’s yard you cannot do anything about it. You know, I think everybody in the Island knows V. K. Richardson, where he used to keep his trucks down by the b ottom of . . . by …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Could I just ask a quick question? Just in terms of . . . and I k now you may not have the number to hand now, but what is the actual revenue lost from 2016 to date by not having the charters? And you do not have to give …
Ms. Leah K. Scott So if I could just ask one question? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Sure.
Ms. Leah K. Scott So the 18 months is just going to be . . . and forgive me if I am not understanding, that will just be a solid 18 months? There is not going to be a stop for the winter schedule or a summer schedule— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: …
Ms. Leah K. Scott It is just going to go straight through? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No. I mean, they call it . . . it is called a “winter schedule,” but it is almost like the “night train” that we used to refer to or “night run” or —
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —you know, that run. So, yes, it will be for . . . so it is not like, well, Gee, we’re just announcing the schedule and something— [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, it is an 18- month per iod, …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So we should be, going forward, my . . . you know, touch wood when we say it. We should see the end of the cancellations.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Which, I think, everyone . . . all of us . . . all of us are dying to see. With regard to taxis, Uber and Lyft, we currently have what we call in Bermuda, Hitch. I do not know if you have …
Ms. Leah K. Scott I used it once. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. So we do have Hitch, which is very similar to that, which, I think, does help. I Bermuda House of Assembly know there are a lot of people that are using it now. In fact, I have used it …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Is Hitch only utilised for taxis, though? I think Uber and Lyft you can use your own car, your own vehicle, to transport people. And I am just asking because I am not sure if Hitch is only for registered taxis in Bermuda as opposed to personal vehicles. Hon. Zane …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Could I just ask one mor e question, Minister? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Sure.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Under TCD, page B -204, Admi nistration. TCD oversees garages and gas stations and cycle liveries to ensure they are in compliance with their permits. How many were not compliant for this year, and what is the consequence for not being compliant? Is it a fine? Do they get closed …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Leah K. Scott The steel buoys at Two Rock Passage that were being redeployed — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. They have been done.
The Chairman Chairman Minister? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes?
The Chairman Chairman Would you like to move the head? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, you have another question?
The Chairman Chairman No. Okay. Sorry.
Ms. Leah K. Scott The United Nations Safety of Life at Sea, SOLAS convention —there was an increase in the repairs and maintenance to the radar and radio communication syst em. Was that sufficient? Will it extend the life of that system? Do we need to get another one, or everything is chill? Hon. …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Would anyone else like to speak to the heads? Member from [constituency] 31 [sic]. You have the floor, [constituency] 30—sorry.
Ms. Leah K. Scott I had to think myself! [Laughter] Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Leah K. Scott: The VHF coastal radio system. It was proposed that that was going to b e replaced. Has that been replaced? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, that has been r eplaced.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. And then in terms of the maritime safety and security measures that were go-ing to be in line with the recommendations contained in the national security review, I just ask to be reminded of (and you can do this offline) what the recommendations are, how many of them have …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Night pilotage? Okay. And then, the passenger load studies with a view to reducing fuel consumption, have those studies been conduc ted? Hon. Zane J. S . De Silva: Yes. Yes, they have.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Oh . . . the EVR — [Crosstalk and laughter ]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You want me to just —
Ms. Leah K. Scott You want to give some answers? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Go ahead, yes —
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay, the fuel savings that were expected to be achieved during the budget year as a result of the revised ferry schedule . . . were those achieved, and what was the amount? Yes? Okay. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, ye s, the —$200,000, yes, yes, $200,000. I …
Ms. Leah K. Scott We still have a little ways to go. The EVR system, that is going to be functioning . . . oh, I was asking about what the revenue loss was from the time that the EVR system has not been working until to date. Abandoned cars, road safety . . …
The Chairman Chairman For the listening audience, we are just waiting . . . the Minis ter is speaking with his tec hnical officers. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, can you turn on your micr ophone? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, thank you. Yes, the forms are still at TCD. With regard to the EVR, we do not know exactly what that is because the courts collect that. But the tickets are $750 per offence. [Inaudible …
Ms. Leah K. Scott The comprehensive review of the Motor Car Act, in terms of bringing it in line, where are you with that r eview and when can we expect to see legislation to amend, particularly the areas where the provisions are contrary to the TCD’s own policies? And, under performance measures, the …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So, if we are able to get more staff, we can have a little bit more success.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What was the other question before that? Oh, it was the —
Ms. Leah K. Scott The Motor Car Act. 920 8 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Motor Car Act. Again, that will come with the green . . . once w e get the Green Paper tabled and then we debate that. That is …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Once the Green Paper was concluded, there was supposed to be a World Café, like a stakeholder roundtable and that . . . has that ha ppened? Or is it anticipated that that will happen? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Once we get there, there is going to be …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Was a new facilities manager appointed to lead enhancement projects, under page B - 210, [line item] 45120? [Inaudible interjections ]
Ms. Leah K. Scott No? Okay. And I think . . . oh, th e only other question I have was that the budget for 2018/19 was decreased, sorry, page B -208, business unit 3501, line item 45010. There was a decrease of $529,000, and it was said that this reduction was due to …
Ms. Leah K. Scott The Dockyard cradle and whether that is going to be made an official revenue stream from the Government ? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It sure is, yes.
Ms. Leah K. Scott I have one more . . . well, maybe not one more, but another question. Page B -200 on repair and maintenance, $500,000 was allocated to the expansion of the traffic and surveillance system s to improve radar coverage of coastal waters. Has that been money well spent? Was that …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Minister. I think that is everything and thank you for answering all of my questions and thank you to your support team for being here to support you.
The Chairman Chairman Is there anyone else that would like to speak to Transport, Heads 30, 34 and 35? Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you very much and I would like to thank the Shadow Minister and Deputy Opposition Leader for her questions, and I would …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 30, 34 and 35 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Mini stry of Transport , Heads 30, 34 and 35 were approved and stand part of the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for the …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Commi ttee rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and repor t progress , and sought leave to sit …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Pardon? Hon. Walton Brown : I will be doing it on behalf of the Premier.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue, Minister. DRAFT ORDER GOOD GOVERNANCE (PROTECTED DISCLOSURES) ORDER 2 019 Hon. Walton Brown : I move that consideration be given to the draft Order entitled, Good Governance (Protected Disclosures) Order 2019 proposed to be made by the Premier under section 3(7) of the Good Governance Act 2012. Mr. Deputy …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any further speakers? No speakers? Minister. Hon. Walton Brown : Mr. [ Deputy ] Speaker, I move that the draft Order be approved and that a suitable message be sent to His Excellency the Governor.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Are there any objections? There appear to be no objections. Approved. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Good Governance (Protected Disclosures) Order 2019, was considered by the House and approved.]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The next order of business is [Order] No. 5, consideration of the Employment (Pr otected Disclosures ) Order 2019 in the name of the Minister of Labour, Community Affairs and Sports. 922 8 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Minister Foggo, you have the floor. DRAFT ORDER …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Under the Employment Act 2000 , a person who makes a protected disclosure in good faith and on the premise that they have reaso nable grounds to believe that their employer, or the employee or he hi mself has been directed to commit a criminal …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Sorry . . . yes, Mr. [ Deputy ] Speaker, let me also at least give this House an overview of the Order —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: —of the Employment Order 2019 —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: —section [29A](5) of the E mployment Act 2000. In respect of protective discl osures corrects the department name from the D epartment of Environmental Health to the Department of Health and includes the Director of the Department as a person to whom a protected disclosure …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Mr. Pearman. You have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Opposition is supportive of this Order. Just very, very briefly , for the benefit of the li stening public, the concept of protected disclosures is what in the common vernacular we refer to as whistleblowing —when employees or others discover things that have been …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, the Honourable Member Mr. Pearman. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Scott Si mmons. You have the floor, Mr. Simmons.
Mr. Scott Simmons Mr. Deputy Speaker, I stand in support of the Minister on this particular [Order] as it relates to the relationship that we have with the people that . . . that very many times are reluctant to i mmerse themselves in situations that they see that there are problems, they …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, the Honourable Member Mr. Simmons. Are the re any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Susan Jackson. You have the floor, Ms. Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Deputy Speaker. I just would like to speak to the evolution of whistle -blowing in general in Bermuda, because I certainly do remember , when the legislation was first i ntroduced, that there were incidences where members did wish to divulge information and there was only one path …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, the Honourable Member Ms. Jackson. Are there any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker, and thank you to colleagues for their brief comments . Mr. Deputy Speaker, in this day and age, no one should have …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It has been moved that the Order entitled, Consideration of the Employment (Pr otected Disclosures) Order 2019, be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Employment (Protected Discl osures) Order 2019, was considered by the House and approved.]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The next order of business is [Order] No. 3, and it is the second reading of the Pr oceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2019 in the name of the Minister of Health and spokesman for Legal A ffairs, Minister Wilson. Minister, you have the floor. 924 8 March 2019 Official …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Mr. Pearman. You have the floor, Mr. Pearman. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. This is a time for our Island wh ere the Oppos ition is very pleased to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Pearman. Any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Kim N. W ilson: Thank you, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, and thank you to those Members, those Honourable Members of the Opposition, in particular the Learned and Honourable Shadow Attorney General. Obviously , as an attorney and as a person that operates …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The Bill will be committed. Honourable Member Ming will take the Chair [of Committee] . House in Committee at 4:48 pm [Mrs. Renee Ming, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL PROCEEDS OF CRIME AM ENDMENT ACT 2019
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon. Honourable Members, we are now in Commi ttee of the whole [House] for consideration of the Bill entitled the Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2019 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, in light of …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, the preamble explains that the Bill seeks to amend the Proceeds of Crime (Anti - Money Laundering and …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the proposed amendments to all clauses be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Is ther e any objection to that motion? No objection. Approved. Hon. Kim N. Wilson : I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2019 was considered by a Committee of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any objections to the Bill ent itled . . . I lost the Bill now . . . the reading of . . . the Proceeds of Crime Amendment Ac t 2019? Any objections? There appear to be none. Approved. [Gavel]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I think that ends the Order of Business. Any third readings, Minister? SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: I move that Standing Order 21 be suspende d to enable me to move that the Bill ent itled the Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2019 be now read …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any objections? There appear to be none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING PROCEEDS OF CRIME AMENDMENT ACT 201 9 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. [Deputy Speaker], thank you. I move that the Bill be now passed.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any objections to the Bill being approved, passed? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: The Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 201 9 was read a third time and passed.]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I think that is the end of the business. Mr. Premier? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Deputy Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Monday, March 11th at 10:00 am.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It has been moved that the House be adjourned to Monday, March the 11th? Any objections to that?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No. [Gavel] [At 4:54 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Monday, 11 March 2019. ] 928 8 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentionally left blank]
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