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House of Assembly Session 2018/2019 270 speeches

March 6, 2019

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Session Summary

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This was primarily a budget session where Minister Wayne Caines presented detailed funding proposals for the Ministry of National Security, including police, defence, customs, corrections, and fire services. The Minister announced a Gang Violence Reduction program receiving $600,000 funding and outlined prevention programs being rolled out in primary schools. Members also paid tribute to several community figures who had recently passed away and congratulated local residents for various achievements.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 6, 2019
Session 2018/2019
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Speakers 21
Speeches 270

Key Topics

Budget debate continuation focusing on Ministry of National SecurityGang violence prevention programs in primary schoolsRoyal Bermuda Regiment operations and Coast Guard developmentTributes to recently deceased community membersRecognition of local achievements and long-service awards

Bills & Motions

Miscellaneous Taxes Amendment Act 2019 - introduced for first reading
Bermuda Tourism Authority Amendment Act 2019 - introduced for first reading
Motion to resume Committee of Supply for budget debate - approved

Notable Moments

Minister corrected a budget error where $500,000 for Gang Violence Reduction was incorrectly listed under Immigration instead of National Security Headquarters
Recognition of young entrepreneur Ahmani Peets who bakes and sells cookies, highlighting support for differently-abled individuals
Acknowledgment of Nathan Trott, a Bermudian goalkeeper who signed a contract extension with West Ham United Football Club

Debate Transcript

270 speeches from 21 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, M embers. [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 1 and 4 March 2019 ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of the sittings from March 1 and March 4 have been circulated. Are there any amendments or omissions to be made? There are none. The Minutes stand confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 1 and 4 March 2019 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGY
The Speaker The Speaker We have received notification that the Deputy Opposition Leader, Ms. Scott, will be absent today and is not well. We will keep her in our thoughts. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have one Statement this morning in the name of the Minister of National Security. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, continue. GANG PREV ENTION IN PRIMARY SCHOOLS Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, this morning I am delighted to provide this Honourable House with an update on the prevention and intervention pr ogrammes administered by the Gang Violence Reduction Team [GVRT] within the Ministry of National S ecurity. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s. Honourable Member Ming, you have the floor.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker and listening audience.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mrs. Renee Ming I would like to rise to my feet today to just give a condolence note to the family a nd friends of Allan Leroy Bean, commonly known around St. George’s as “ Bean ie Man.” And if you have ever been down on the square or at any family function—does …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member Co mmissiong. Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank you. I just want to take time out quickly to acknowledge and offer condolences to the family of Ms. Melba Edith Lavinia Smith. She is the mother of Mr. Norbert Simons, who is a leading civil servant within the Department of Sports.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong She also i s a distant cousin of mine, through my mother. Secondly, I have the loss that I wish to a nnounce of one of my constituents from the Cavendish Heights area, Ms. Florence Lillian Dearing, who passed away recently. She was a pillar of that Cavendish Heights community, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. We recognise the Minister of Works. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, good morning and thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Lt. Col. Hon. Davi d A. Burch I would ask that congratulations be sent to the Keep Bermuda Beautiful committee, who celebrated their AGM [annual general meeting] yesterday and really celebrated another year Bermuda House of Assembly of success, honouring eight individuals for their contr ibutions to keeping the Island clean. I had the opportunity to attend …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member, Ms. Atherden. You have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the House to send condolences to the family of the late Mary Gosling. Mary was …
The Speaker The Speaker Unfortunately? That is very fortunate. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, as I said, “fortunately. ” Sorry. I meant to say fortunately.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh. Okay. All right. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Fortunately.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: To me, if you live to that age, then you had a good inning. I mean, she was a golfer as well, and she also played bridge. And she was one of those individuals who, at the time I knew her, she was at Riddles …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise Honourable Member Swan. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to you. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences to the family of Ms …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We recognise the Honourable Member Tyrrell. Honourable Member, welcome back.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, all. Mr. Speaker, I had the privilege of attending the recent Commitment Aw ards at the HSBC. We would all probably know them as long service awards, but they call them their Commitment Awards. There were four young ladies whom I hope that …
The Speaker The Speaker Fifty! Fifty?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Ms. Lynette Smith and Ms. Sharon Jacobs. Fifty years. Can you imagine that? 794 6 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Wow.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell I will associate MP Jackson—
The Speaker The Speaker You can associate the whole House. Do the whole House.
Mr. N eville S. Tyrrell The whole House, Mr. Speaker. Next to that was a 45- year person, Felicity Jacobs, a very good friend of mine. And last, but not least, one who did 10 years, and I would declare my interest, Nakisha Tyrrell. Thank you very much, Mr. Spea ker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Premier. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I am pleased to stand and ask that the House recognise a nd send congratul ations to a young …
The Speaker The Speaker The whole House. Do the entire House. Hon. E. David Burt: I will associate the whole House, as this young man, this young 20- year-old, whom I have had the opportunity to meet, has just signed a contract extensi on with the best club in London, West Ham United Football …
The Speaker The Speaker Well. Well. Well . . . well, you should not mislead the House, Mr. Premier. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker But continue on. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And he has signed a contract extension until 2022. Honourable Members would know that he has been with West Ham United since 2016.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: He has certainly made a number of appearances for West Ham and won a number of trophies, not in the first team, but in the second team. And it is just delightful to see that his work is being rewarded with a contract extension to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member F amous. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Christophe r Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Christopher Famous First, I would like to thank the people of St. Kitts and Nevis and CARICOM, who hosted us for the 30 th Intersessional meeting last week. Everybody was like, So, when are the other people coming from Bermuda? And they called your name.
The Speaker The Speaker That is family there. That is home. Hon. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: Well.
The Speaker The Speaker But go ahead.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to rise to speak of a young man who comes from a long line of business people from constituency 11, a young man who is named Ahmani Peets. (I may have pronounced it incorrectly. )
The Speaker The Speaker Ahmani; you are good, yes.
Mr. Christopher Famous But Ahmani is now a baker, he now bakes cookies. And he sells cookies for one dollar each. So, I am taking donations on his behalf. But I would like to say Ahmani is a product of a family who stands behind him no matter what cha llenges —father, grandfather, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Member. We will n ow move on. Bermuda House of Assembly MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MAT TERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION O F BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are two Government Bills, yes. The Minister of Health is going to do these on behalf of the Minister of Finance, yes? FIRST READING MISCELLANEOUS TAXES AMENDMENT ACT 2019 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. I am introducing the Bill, which, according to …
The Speaker The Speaker Member. The Clerk: The Tourism matter.
The Speaker The Speaker Is somebody going to do Tourism? Thank you, Deputy. You can do the [introduction for the] Minister of Tourism. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, I will do it on behalf of the Minister of Tourism and Transport.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. FIRST READING BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2 019 Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am introducing the following Bill, which, according to section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, requires the Governor’s recommenda-tion, so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There ar e none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Members and listening audience, that brings us to the start of our Orders of the Day. And as we all know, we are here for the resumption of the debate on the budget, Committee of Supply. And this morning, the first Ministry that will be up for debate is the …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? No objections to that. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Speaker The Speaker As I call on the Chair man to come forward, I would also just like to add a couple of remarks to the comments made by Mr. Famous in reference to the young man and his cookies. I believe that some have been delivered to the House this mor ning …
The Chairman Chairman Good morning. We are i n Committee of Supply to consider the Ministry of National Security, Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25 and 45. Five hours have been allocated for these heads, coming under the Ministry of National Security. The Honourable Minister Wayne Caines, JP MP, you have the f …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. HEAD 83 —MINISTRY OF NATIONAL SECURITY HEADQUARTERS Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Chairman and Honourable Members, I am pleased to present the current accounts estimate for the Ministry of National Security Headquarters, Head 83, which can be found starting on pages B -270 and 272 in the Estimates of Revenue …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The pages, the errata . . . [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman And that was $500,000 that you made mention to, Minist er? Hon. Wayne Caines: Yes, sir. The Chai rman: Thank you. Expenditure Overview Hon. Wayne Caines: The Ministry of National Secur ity Headquarters has seven full -time posts , of which five are funded and filled. Salary costs are $718,000 …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Minister said that there was an increase from $427,000 to $619,000. Did I hear that correctly?
The Chairman Chairman In the Budget Book , it says 619. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. But the errata that the Minister just handed out says a different number. So, are we using the errata or the Budget Book? The Chairman: Thank you. [Pause] Hon. Wayne Caines: What are you reading from again? …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Je anne J. Atherden: Because the Minister has indicated a change, which is affecting the . . . what is the group that he called?
The Chairman Chairman Are you referring to the errata that was circulated? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, affecting the errata. In the c ourse of your conversation, you were talking about hiring different people. But yet, when you look down in the book, you do not see any changes in any of the …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. And for a point of just clarity, [pages] B -269, B -270 and B -271 are affected by the errata. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am sorry to belabour this, but, Minister, I just want clarification. I understood about the people who were going to be seconded. But I …
The Chairman Chairman Continue on, Minister. [Pause] HEAD 6—DEFENCE Hon. Wayne Caines: Head 6, the Defence. Mr. Chairman, Head 06 comprises the D efence Department, the Royal Bermuda Regiment (“RBR" or the “Regiment”). The Regiment’s role is to provide operational capacity to support the civil au-thority. It performs a number of critical functions …
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Yes. HEAD 7 —BERMUDA POLICE SERVICE Hon. Wayne Caines: The Bermuda Police Service is Head 7 and can be found at pages B -278 to 281. Objectives Hon. Wayne Caines: The objectives, Mr. Chairman. The mission of the Bermuda Police Service is m aking Bermuda safer by engaging in five …
Mr. Ben Smith Point of clarification.
The Chairman Chairman Just quickly. Minister, will you accept a point of clarific ation? Hon. Wayne Caines: I will.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, sir. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Ben Smith Just quickly, the numbers between the males and females. Can you repeat those two numbers, please?
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Minister. You may proceed. [Pause] Hon. Wayne Caines: The facility, with a capacity of 56 cells, has separate and distinct provisions to house 40 adult females and 60 [sic] adult male offenders — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne Caines: One-six. One -six. One -six. I apologise. Say …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Members, the Minister of National Security has finished his brief to the House. Are there any other Members who w ould care to speak on National Security, Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25 and 45? The Chair now recognises the Shadow Mini ster of National Security, Mr. …
Mr. Ben Smith Good morning, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Firstly, I would l ike to thank the Minister for the detailed brief that he just presented to the House. At this time, I would like to start with Head 83, National Security Headquarters. On 93002, Parole Board, there was an increase from the …
The Chairman Chairman Shadow Minister, are you referring to page B -271, the errata sheet?
Mr. Ben Smith Yes. Correct.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Ben Smith: With the information th at was given specifically to this, it was mostly dealing with the Gang Reduction Task Force. So, obviously, this is an area that all of Bermuda is interested in. The rise in gang violence in Bermuda …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Shadow Minister, which line item or head are you addressing right now, and line item?
Mr. Ben Smith [Cost centre] 93000. And the reason I brought up that particular spot was because it was brought up by the Minister for what he was discussing with what this unit was doing. So, I am just trying to have clarification, that there were a lot of items that are coming …
Mr. Ben Smith Yes, Programme and Education. So, I believe that is Darren Woods. This is another initi ative where you are having somebody who is having to fill multiple roles. And a lot of it is hands -on. So, as you try to expand and you, potentially, get success in one area, …
Mr. Ben Smith Give me one second, Mr. Chairman. [Pause]
Mr. Ben Smith On page C -14, the Public Safety COMS system. So, if the Minister can give us a little bit more detail on exactly what the changes are from the standpoint of, are some of these going to be just fixing some items that maybe have broken over the year? Or …
The Chairman Chairman Shadow Minister, we are at just short of 12:30. I am going to recommend that we move to lunch. Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do move that we adjourn until 2:00 pm.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Any objections? There being none, the House will resume at 2:00 pm. Proceedings suspended at 12:31 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:01 pm [Mr. N. H. Cole Simons, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2019/20 MINISTRY OF NATIONAL SECURITY [Continuation thereof]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon. We are resuming the Committee of Supply and we are debating National Security, Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25 and 45. The debate finishes at 4:53 pm. I recognise the Shadow Minister.
Mr. Ben Smith Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. I would like to continue with Head 6 for D efence. The Chairman: You may proceed.
Mr. Ben Smith So under line 16085, continuing on with Maritime Operations, I was wondering if the Mi nister coul d let us know whether there has been any thought to adding drones to go along with the bringing in of boats so that we can look at . . . overall [look …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Wayne Caines: Is that with reference to one of the heads that we discussed today specifically? Could you just draw me to . . .
The Chairman Chairman The Shadow Minister was speaking to [cost centre] 17010. Hon. Wayne Caines: Could I have the heading again, please?
Mr. Ben Smi th [Cost centre] 17010, Human R esources. So, because it is related to a new job, I was wondering whether it was something that we could discuss . . . just because, obviously, if there is a new position that is being looked at and the Commissioner has gon e overseas …
The Chairman Chairman What page are you on?
Mr. Ben Smith I am going back to [page] B -278. So I just spoke to this in regard to Defence. I am bringing it up again on whether drones are an option for Bermuda. When you look at the way policing is done outside of Bermuda you understand that they are using …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you for the clarification, Mini ster. Resume . . . Opposition.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you. Continuing with the road policing under the same heading, so the idea of having more CCTVs, the ability to have traffic cams, can the Minister give us more information on whether we could be looking for the ability for the cameras to take pictures of people that are …
Mr. Ben Smith It is [cost centre] 22080, Administr ation. I was wondering if the Minister can give us some clarification on what that difference is. On page B -283, I am looking at the differences between the shifts A and B. So the 2018/19 original was 32 staff numbers and it actually …
The Chairman Chairman I am sorry, what line item are we r eferring to?
Mr. Ben Smith We are on [page] B -284 and it is the shifts, so [cost centre] 22030 and 22040 , Shift A and Shift B. If the Minister could give us an explanation of what the difference is, why there seems to be signif icantly more seizures in Shift B than in …
Mr. Ben Smith Okay. I am going to move on to Head 25, Corre ctions. I am going to start with 35105, Psychological Services. So the Minister spoke to the fact that there is only one therapist available at present and that they are looking into getting two more in order to reach …
Mr. Ben Smith Consultants? So, obviously, getting staff in will reduce that cost, so that becomes a prior ity. Looking at the employee numbers . . . obv iously, you are going to have retirements. You are g oing to have people that are no longer working within that department. The number that …
Mr. Ben Smith Say again. Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of information.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Wayne Caines: I did list the number and, speci fically, by each programme how many inmates were involved in each programme at each facility during my presentation.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you for the clarification, sir. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Ben Smith No, I was actually looking at the . . . I was on [page] B -287, so I was actually looking at Westgate and then I looked at —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Okay, thank you.
Mr. Ben Smith So the Minister, I guess I am going to continue to be speaking on [page] B -287, so starting at 35020, for all the different facilities. The Minister spoke to the programmes that are available so there is the Farm, there is . . . the different programmes that have …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Minister. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Wayne Caines: In the presentation, we hig hlighted the specifics as it relates to recidivism and the decrease in recidivism over the rate on a percentage basis.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: I think it would be most difficult to understand and to quantify why a person does not come back to prison because you do not have the benefit of getting that information from them once they leave the prison facility.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you for your contribution.
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Chairman, potentially, this person, when they get out, they are going to have to stand in front of the Parole Board, they are going to have a parole officer that they are going to be communicating with. Potentially what we can do is try to get that information …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. And can you tie it down to a line item to keep us focused, please?
Mr. Ben Smith I was on —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member [Page] B -287, 35090.
Mr. Ben Smith Yes, thank you.
The Chairman Chairman You may continue, sir.
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Chairman, I am going to move on now to Head 45, which is the Fire Service. I actually meant to make sure that we send our appreciation out to all the people who are working in all of these services. As I was saying earlier, it is always difficult …
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you. The other [cost centre] is 76733, so it was a portable water pump. That was in the budget for . . . is this something that is just maintenance, like they have to keep purchasing more every time another one goes down, so really it is a stock …
The Chairman Chairman For the public’s edification, w e are currently debating Head 45, Fire [and Rescue] Service, and the Shadow Minister of Security has the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Chairman, I am looking at [page] B -296 for the Fire Department and I am going to take this under the payments to the staff members. Specifically, all I am doing is tying it back to what I said previously when it comes to defence. Are we pu …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Shadow Minister. That brings a conclusion to the Shadow Mini ster’s contribution. Is there any other Member that would like to speak to the Ministry of National Secur ity, Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25, and 45? I recognise the Honourable Michael Dunkley from constituency 10. Hon. Michael …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member , you said “this year.” The $427,000 to $714,000 was for the year 2018/19. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: That is this year, Mr. Chairman. We have not finished this one year yet.
The Chairman Chairman We are doing the budget for the 2019/20. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, when I speak and I say “this year” I am talking about where we stand in tim e right now. We are actually doing the budget for 2019/20, which starts April 1 st. But that is …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Chairman, I am actually confused at the point about Police Complaints A uthority with reference to its completion. Are you saying that we took . . . that it was . . . not that we said that the Police Complaints Authority …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the need for clarification. I hope I said “Police Authority.” I had not meant to refer to the Police Complaints Author ity. But the Police A uthority is something that you mentioned in your brief today, …
The Chairman Chairman The line? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Volunteer Recruitment, you can put it i nto . . . it is on page B -274, but you can put it into the line item16005.
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed. 826 6 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister gave some explanation about the number of camps and, I think, the Minister did say there were 65 recruits in the last year. It seems now …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Always money. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Always money. But when you face tough times, you know, sometimes you make a decision that you cannot put a programme in [now], but you have to start somewhere and you have to do it. And that makes it important, Mr. Chairman, that we …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you may proceed. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, sir. Let me start by saying that, you know, this is one of those security service departments that are critical, but it is one where the roles and the respons ibilities change so fast depending on what is going on …
The Chairman Chairman Line item, Honourable Member , please. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am talking about line item . . . I am on [page] B -278— [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, it does not say drone, but it does talk about services that could be . . . services …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I note that the line item 17120, Marine and Road Policing Unit, has a budget of $475,000 which is unchanged this financial year to the next financial year. And I ask the Honourable Mi nister if he can provide a breakdown of how much of …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And as an offshoot based on what my colleague and I had been talking about earlier, how is the relationship worked this coming financial year between the police and the Regiment as far as our maritime policing? Are the res ources going to be used …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Minister, you may pr oceed. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Wayne Caines: We just need to make sure we are talking about the right CCTV cameras. There are CCTV cameras for the headquarters and there are CCTV cameras for the country. To which is he speaking?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Minister. You may proceed. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The country, unless we need cameras at the headquarters to watch speeding up there. But my question relies . . . goes back more to page C -14. The line item 76902, Public Safety COM System of $3.1 million, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —it says that in this fina ncial year 2018/19 there is $231,000 to be spent. It was not budgeted, but it is to be spent. And I assume there will be a supplementary coming for that. Can the Honourable Minister please provide some background on …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —I am interested to know why, [comparing] airport Shift A and airport Shift B, there is a big difference in the seizure of illicit items. One has 4 and one has 210. I would appreciate some clarification from the Honourable Minister. Turning my attention to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: When people get into di scussions, whether it is politicians or concerned me mbers of the community, about the cost of Corrections, they say . . . in this year’s Budget Book it says “the average cost of incarceration per inmate is $71,595” and …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —the Honourable Minister did say that there was only one psychologist available and that they were working hard to get the other two. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And they are filling in with consultants. So there are a couple of questions here. How …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —and, Mr. Chairman, if it is one of sal ary and we cannot retain people, but then we end up paying for ad hoc people to come in and spend a higher amount of budget, it would make sense to pay the appropriate salary.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: All right? So I look forward to hearing some comment from the Honourable Mini ster. I have a question to Honourable Minister.
The Chairman Chairman Line item . . . line item? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Line item [page] B -286, Educational Services. It says that the Educational Services, the $300,000 attributed to this programme, and I assume that is the cost of the education manag-er and all supplies. And there was a comment in …
The Chairman Chairman Line item 35090. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, you are pretty sharp, man. Turning to the Bermuda Fire [and] Rescue Services, Head 45, [page] B -295. It is interesting if you look at the Hansard from last year, and as my colleague talked about, a lot of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN HOUSE VISITORS
The Chairman Chairman While I have a break, I would like to recognise the presence of the Attorney General and the various Senators from the Government. Thank you. [Committee of Supply , continuing] [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Are you done? Okay. I would like to invite anybody else who would like to speak to Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25, and 45 for the Ministry of National Security. Is there anybody else that would like to speak to the Ministry and those heads? No? Bermuda House of …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, thank you. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Chairman, I am just going to answer these questions in no particular order as we have prepared responses to questions that were posed this morning by MP Smith and MP Dunkley. The question was asked: The parole increase, why the increase and how …
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed. Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. By centralising staff from within the Ministry, this allows for good collaboration in helping to develop a National Plan, which includes an Airport Emergency Plan, a Cruise Ship Plan (to include a mass rescue plan), the Marine Pollution Contingency Plan, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: So the key operating plan is then for all the key points in Bermuda––Mr. Rubaine is responsible for putting together a plan around our n ational key infrastructure. He is responsible for the r egional tsunami exercise and for putting together our hurricane planning. Stuart Daniels …
The Chairman Chairman Hmm. Hon. Wayne Caines: —due to, mainly, there bein g no disaster management legislation being put in place. They wanted to lay the foundation for a disaster management programme and to codify the remit of the Emergency Measures Organisation [EMO]. The prev ious Government did announce a plan to draft …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Wayne Caines: The disaster management le gislation will be drafted and it will establish formally the DRRM, and will codify the EMO into law. This will cause the National Comprehensive Disaster Management Plan to be written and to establish the staf fing of the DRRM. At this …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: So understand where that lies. However, understanding the plan, being a man of this country, I think we all have a deep commitment to making sure this goes properly. The next question was, The Minister referred to 25 recruits, 65 being the number required, are we …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Wayne Caines: I crave your indulgence for a second, Mr. Chairman. The Chairman: Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: Question from Mr . Dunkley. What is the plan for the $600,000 that was put for the Gang Violence Reduction Team? Staffing budgets. Full -time programming staff, $211,000. Three part -time …
The Chairman Chairman Please. Hon. Wayne Caines: Every plan, every item that we plan to use in the next year we have a documented line by line, every jot, every tittle, every penny on how we will spend in an itemised budget that was cons idered by our department before we approved the …
The Chairman Chairman Bishop Bean. Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you. I did not use his ecumenical title, Bishop Bean. The primary school prevention programme, $4,000. This is something else that is brilliant. Going into the elementary school, and these young men have been deemed “at risk” in specific schools. This is a pilot …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Wayne Caines: Work permit placement and mentorship. This initiative is budgeted for $28,000. The bullying app. The bullying app is $25,000 to develop this app and ongoing work with that. The bullying app is very important. There was a trauma indicator checklis t, and a survey done of …
The Chairman Chairman Three. Hon. Wayne Caines: The Coast Guard (and I just want to spend my last three minutes), the last couple of ques tions are just being centred around the Bermuda Regiment and a couple of others. In the last three minutes I would just like to talk about the Coast …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you want to move your heads, please? Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25, and 45 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25, and 45 be appr oved. Any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Thank you. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Ministry of National Security, Heads 83, 6, 7, 12, 25, and 45 were approved and stand part of …
The Chairman Chairman The next Head up for debate is Cab inet and Government Reform. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Walton Brown. You have the floor, Minister. CABINET AND GOVERNMENT REFORM Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move the following heads: Head 13, Post Office; Head 14, Department …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Continue. HEAD 13 —POST OFFICE Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Chairman, it gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 13, the Post Office. 844 6 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly It gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 13 found …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Susan Jackson. You have the floor, Ms. Jack son.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good afternoon, Mr. Chai rman. Bermuda House of Assembly If you don’t mind, I would like to start with Communication, thank you. So I am going to start with Head 51, Department of Communications. I, too would like to thank DCI and their leader, Ms. Wilson, for all of the …
The Chairman Chairman What unit are you looking at?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I am looking at 61064, Portal Management, on page B -69. I do know that this is a relatively new portal that has been put in place. It certainly had a few challenges, because people had to get used to the search engine and we didn’t have the traditional landing …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Just to answer the first two, for the most part what the Member was asking about in terms of government using DCI as a first point of service, that is happening already, for the most part. That is what happens when you see us go …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. So, I was just a little curious about who is providing the sort of creative production, who is uploading and maintaining the website, and whether you are finding cost savings based on what was the original or previous website that was there. And then just whether there are more …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I have another question that has come to mind. And it is around the customer journey within the website. Certainly, I hav e personally gone on the website through the search engine looking for pages that are oftentimes advertised or announced within this Chamber, different documents and various initiatives that …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Ms. Jackson. Ms. Susan E. Jackson Just changing the subject slightly, but I am noticing that there is . . . it is not a pplicable around deadlines for production of the Throne Speech and annual reports, et cetera. I am just wo ndering if you could provide an update on how those reports, those speeches …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Ms. Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I have another question around your customer satisfaction surveys. So, I no-ticed that under —
The Chairman Chairman What line item? Ms. Jackson, I am trying to . . . I am giving you a lot of latitude, but —
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Sorry, the customer satisfaction surveys are noted in the performance of . . . okay, let’s go with business unit 61070, customer service representatives, [page] B -69. But the customer sati sfaction seems to appear in numerous lines. But I am just curious, what mechanism are you using to measure …
The Chairman Chairman Do you want to continue, Ms. Jac kson, on the other heads, if you have finished that one, that is?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I am finished. I would like to move on to Head 13, the Post Office.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Continue.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I will start by, one, thanking the Pos tmaster General, who I understand has been seconded into that post. And I will ask the Minister, When will we have a more permanent person in that post? And my next piece is to transition to the location of the post office. …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Mm -hmm.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson There has been, well, first of all, I am just questioning why $6 million has been all ocated in that space. And also, I understand from public releases that there is a move to have multiple go vernment payment locations at the sub- offices. So, a person can go into …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I noticed that you had mentioned that the General Post Office is considering g oing into or diversifying their business, and you mentioned an online shopping feature as a possibility. And I am just curious if you might be able t o give a little information around the costs to …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson You mentioned that there would be a line item for the additional costs associated with the online shopping platform. Added to that, you have mentioned a record and tracking IPS sof tware. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. Mm -hmm.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Touch screen kiosks and public Wi- Fi, which I would imagine is nominal. But I am curious where those expenses will be housed within the Head 13? And whether any of those costs are incorporated into, let’s say, Materials and Supplies for this year, which is at $239,000? And I …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Opposition Leader, Mr. Cannonier. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I still was not quite sure about on page B - 48, obviously under Head 13, 340, Central Mail Pr ocessing Unit. I was not quite sure if the Honourable Member is …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, I am going to allow one of the other Members to pose some additional questions while you try to straighten that out. Are there any other Members who would c are to speak to these respective heads? The Chair now recognises the member for constituency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair now recognises the Minister. Mini ster, you have the floor. Hon. Walton B rown: First of all, we are not going to be in direct competition with courier companies. We offer a different timeframe for delivery of packages than the courier companies. So, we are …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair now recognises the Opposition Leader. You have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There was one particular question on the performance measures that I did not get an answer to, and that was the status and completion of the impl ementation and rollout of …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. I am still on Head 13, [page] B -48, and I believe it is going to fall under Equipment and Other Expenses. But I am just curious what kinds of charges and payments we might be up against after the security assessment. I have read that we have …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Opposition Leader. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I don’t mean to be labour the point, but I am just a bit confused now. At [page] B -50 the Performance Measures , the Honourable Member says that it is a work in progress . And I can …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Walton Brown: It remains a work in progress. We are making it more efficient. We are streamlining procedures, and we are providing for more thi ngs to be delivered online. That is the extent of what we are doing. Online greater capability and streamlining …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that wish to speak to these heads? The Chair now recognises the Shadow Mini ster. Ms. Susan E. Jackson: I am still on Head 13 for the Post Office, and I am curious. Now, I grew up enjoying stamp collecting and I noticed …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson A thousand. A thousand dollars. So, I am just curious, I mean, is there some law why we have the Bur eau? I mean, I get it from a phi lanthropic perspective, but . . . Hon. Walton Brown: It is not cost efficient. Right. It is not going to …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson For the cost of $433,000 a year? Is there any initiative or any work bei ng done to investigate other ways in which we might be able to provide this service at a less expensive, at a lower cost? Hon. Walton Brown: Well, we will certainly consider other options. But …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Members. Are there any other Members that wish to address these heads at this time? The Chair now recognises the Member from constituency 19, Ms. Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question goes to [page] B -55, which is, I am going now to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. You may continue. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: [Page] B -55. Okay. All right. So, my quest ion is because I have always mai ntained that the more timely the information you get, the more you can do with it. So, this is talking about the surveys. And on business …
The Chairman Chairman Minister? Hon. Walton Brown: Well, they have two different reference dates, first of all. Secondly, with regard to shrinking the timeframe, that is always possible. It is a question of devoting more resources to gett ing it done more efficiently. We will have to explore that, the vi ability of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. The Chair now recognises the Member from constituency 10, [Honourable Member] Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is on Head 51, D epartment of Communications, page B -67. During the Minister’s presentation, he talked about bulk media buying. I am just curious, because, …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair now recognises the Member from constituency 33, Minister Simmons. Hon. Ja mahl S. Simmons: Yes, to answer the Ho nourable Member’s first question, when it comes to ad-vertising buys, you do not advertise for advertising buys. How it works is you buy advertising based on the audience you …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. I recognise the Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thanks very much, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move on to Head 26, Depar tment of Human Resources. So, I definitely support the idea (and I have mentioned this before) that the H uman Resources Department is looking to restructure itself. I just have a few questions around how, …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay, thank you for that. Now, given the fact that the Government is looking to take all of the HR departments within the various ministries and pool them into one centre of excellence for HR services for government, I guess my big question is, What is actually going to be …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Minister.
The Chairman Chairman Members, I just wanted to make sure that you are aware that we have about 11 minutes left. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Okay. I stand corrected. We have over an hour left, just a little over an hour. But you may proceed, Member. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know you wanted to keep us own our toes. I would just like to ask the Minister a couple of …
The Chairman Chairman Wher e are you? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: [Page] B -58.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay. I am talking about the Department of Human Resources. If you look at the employee numbers, full -time equivalent, it says that the actual for 2017/18 was 26. The original for 2018/19 was also 26. The revised for 2018/19 is 26, and the revised …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. The Chair now recognises the Opposition Leader. Mr. Cannonier, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am just trying to remember to put on my microphone. On [page] B -60, at the very bottom in the performance measures, we see that …
The Chairman Chairman Does any other Member wish to address the respective heads at this time? The Chair now recognises the Member from [constituency] 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I guess I should . . . because the Opposition Leader mentioned it, and it ties right into what I was going to ask, …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Walton Brown: Let me first say that there was a very detailed analysis that went into the formulation of this new departm ent. It was a very prolonged process. A lot of assessment was done; a lot of assessment was undertaken. So, there were …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So does that mean that the existing team under Head 26 will create their efficiencies and continue to do what they are doing? And that under Head 61 with the members who have been seconded from the likes of Cabinet and Economic Development, et cetera, will …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Any other Member? Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, so my question was when. What is the timeline for this transition from Head 26, effectively to Head 61? And then my additional question is, within Head 61, although I am not seeing a line item for it in particular, whether there will be any additional software programmes and …
The Chairman Chairman Any other Members care to address the respective heads under discussion?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson And the timeline? Hon. Walton Brown: This is a gradual process, so it will take place over the course of a few months. But it is a gradual process; there is no rigid timeframe by which . . . we will transition from [Head] 26 to [Head] 61. It is …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: There will be some overlap as the transition takes place. There is some inevitable overlap between the two departments.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I hate to go on about this. So, the positions within Head 61 now, I thought they Bermuda House of Assembly were in position because they are the ones that ar e going to lead the transition and create the strategy and carry it out. However, you are saying that …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Walton Brown: That is the process. It has to be clear: phase one will establish Head 61 and MCS and the Compensation and Benefit Section will move over in the first quarter of this year. Phase two is an 18month period in which the transition of all other …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Member from constituency 20.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Chairman. I would now like move to Head 80, Project Management and Procurement. So, to me, this is another example of a department within the civil service that is evolving. When I was first introduced to the Department of Project Management and Procurement, it was my understand ing …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you have the floor. Thank you. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Walton Brown: First of all, let me say that the Office of Project Management and Procurement is not in the business of going around and figuring out who can best provide a range of products and services, as you suggested. …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair now recognises the Member from constituency 19. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Minister, with respect to Head 80, which is the Project Management and Procurement, if I am reading on [page] B -78, the Performance Measures, it says: “Deliver to the responsible Minister a report …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair now recognises the Opposition Leader. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier : Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a question, not much here, although this also is a major part of what Government does, this Project Management and Procurement, but it has always brought up a lot of other kinds of …
The Chairman Chairman Member. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier : Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just to go back to the monitoring of the rules. I am bringing it up because, I am sure that the depar tment knows that this a major concern because it was repeatedly coming up about the false information b …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member They knew? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier : Yes. Yes, yes, yes, abs olutely. I hope you do not know anyt hing about that. So, I am just hoping that they are addressing it. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members that wish to address these heads? The Chair recognises the Shadow Minster.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. You mentioned in your brief that two airport operation staff were going to join the Office of Project Management and Procurement. Are they being brought in for their expertise, or is it just that they happen to be in Airport Ops and moving over? Hon. …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I have an additional question. I do not mean for this to be a curveball, but I am still wrapping my head around the (I want to back and this is my final q uestion) Head 13, the Post Office and the online shopping. So, when it comes to the …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, we will have a local su pplier? Hon. Walton Brown: No, this is for an overseas function. This is for the delivery of the mail from an overseas location into Bermuda.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson And then, how will the goods get here? Hon. Walton Brown: They will get here by plane. 868 6 March 2019 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Laughter]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Do we contract in . . . I am still trying to wrap my head around how that is going to work. So, does the General Post Office already have a contract for the way that its mail gets here and that would be a part of t hat? Or …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Okay. Hon. Walton Brown: And there are well -established airline routes coming in to Bermuda delivering the mail. But this particular service is going to be contracted out to a private company who has their own routes established for delivering the mail or other products to Bermuda. That is what …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, they would use a private airline then, separate from the way that our regular mail comes to Bermuda? Hon. Walton Brown: I do not know. That will be determined by the contract or. They will determine what is the best route for getting the products into Berm uda. That …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Minister. The Chair man: Thank you, Members. Are there any other Members that wish to address these respective heads? There being none, Minister, are you prepared to move the respective heads at this time? Hon. Walton Brown: Yes, Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 13, 14, 26, 51, …
The Chairman Chairman The Minister has moved that Heads 13, 14, 26, 51, 61 and 80 be [approved] as printed. Are there any objections? There being none . . . [Gavel]
The Chairman Chairman The heads are approved. [Motion carried: The Cabinet, Heads 13, 14, 26, 51, 61 and 80 were approved and stand part of the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2019/20.] Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee rise and report progress, and ask for …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Commi ttee rise and report progre ss and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress, and sought leave to sit again …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. Members, are there any objections to the Committee reporting back to the House at this m oment? No objections. So done. We now move on to the other items on the Order Paper today. And I believe all items are being carried [forward].
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Sounds like you are pretty anxious t o go home, Mr. Simons.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I now move that the House do now adjourn until Friday, the 8 th of March—
The Speaker The Speaker At 10:00 am. Hon. E. David Burt: At 10:00 am.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Members wish to speak to that? No Member wishes to speak to that — [Laughter and inaudible interjections ] Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: I thought you were just racing to gather your stuff to get out the door, but you actually would like to speak.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. B urch No, no. I could not wait to see you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, Minister, you have the floor.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? HERITAGE WHARF LAWSUIT
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I learned last week that I was being sued for almost three million dollars by the predictably pathetic tabloid daily newspaper in this country.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, no!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, the head line was deliberately designed to mislead and to give the impression that I was personally being sued.
The Speaker The Speaker You write a cheque for them?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Anybody dumb enough to sue me for millions of dollars, will be bitterly disappointed, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I do not have that kind of float and they would be wasting their time. Mr. Speaker, it was the worst kind of journalism in this country —gutter, tabloid journalism —of the [National] Enquirer ilk. And they wonder why I will not speak to them. I do not buy their …
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, the Honourable Member is misl eading the House and the public. The former Government is not partners with the Royal G azette.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister, the Opposition Leader has clarified a point. [It is] his opinion that there is no partnership and I just ask you—
Lt. Col. Hon. Da vid A. Burch —It is my opinion, Mr. Speaker. —
The Speaker The Speaker —I will just ask you to verify —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —It is my opinion and—
The Speaker The Speaker Wait, wait, wait. I am just asking you . . . it is not factual that they are partners. So, just be mindful of that. 870 6 March 2019 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch : Okay, Mr. Speaker. I take that …
Lt. Col. H on. David A. Burch So, to be clear, Mr. Speaker, I am talking about the mismanagement by the former OBA Government. And, yes, you heard me correctly, almost 50 per cent over budget. A target price at the outset was set at $22,369,961.93. The revised target price was then set at $32,561,440.07. And for …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch So, “these sorts of disputes in big construction jobs are not unusual but normally you don’t need to go to court.” So, why didn’t one of the three OBA Ministers of Public Works fix this before they were replaced? And, “overall, we thought the project came off very well.” Seriously, …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Sheer incompetence, Mr. Speaker. That is what it is, almost 50 per cent over budget. Did you hear me, Mr. Speaker? The “Captains of Industry,” the “Masters of their Fortune,” the wealthy of this country, the “to- the-manor -born,” the only ones self -ordained to govern and manage this country …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Not a peep!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch [The sound of] crickets from the media, crickets from the Auditor General, crickets from all around, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker. I have run out of paper. Don’t worry, though.
The Speaker The Speaker You have got 10 minutes. You have time, you have time.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I know, Mr. Speaker. I won’t need all of that. I am going to give them an o pportunity to reply in a moment or two. Mr . Speaker, the document said the firm wanted $2,995,015.50 plus interest and costs from the Minister of Public Works. Mr. Speaker, that is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? We stand adjourned until Friday at 10:00 am. [ Gavel] Th e Speaker: Have a good evening. [At 7:35 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 8 March 2019.]
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