The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning, Members. I trust ever yone had a good weekend. [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Deferred ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers , the Minutes from the 14th of December have been deferred. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerFirst, I would like to announce that we have received notification from two Members who will be absent today: MP Pearman and MP T. Furbert. 1OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou will also see on the Order Paper that I will be announcing the oversight committees. I am going to defer them until later, but they will be announced before we close today. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, there is one personal expl anation today . Leave [was sought] because we were originally coming back not to do anything other than a partic ular Bill that is on the Order [Paper] today, and the Premier , in a revisit of a Statement that was given, realised that …
Members, there is one personal expl anation today . Leave [was sought] because we were originally coming back not to do anything other than a partic ular Bill that is on the Order [Paper] today, and the Premier , in a revisit of a Statement that was given, realised that there was a matter that needed to be clarified on that Statement. He would just like to clarify it before the House closes. Premier, we will allow you to give the personal explanation to provide t hat clarification. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. 494 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly SALE OF VICTORIA HOUSE TO ARBITRADE —PREMIER’S QUESTION TIME [14 December 2018] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, on Friday, during Premier’s Question Time, in response to a question about Arbitrade, I indicated that enhanced due dil …
Good morning.
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Bermuda House of Assembly SALE OF VICTORIA HOUSE TO ARBITRADE —PREMIER’S QUESTION TIME [14 December 2018]
Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, on Friday, during Premier’s Question Time, in response to a question about Arbitrade, I indicated that enhanced due dil igence was conducted by way of access to the “international Interpol system .” I would like to clarify that statement. The information systems used b y Bermuda’s Financial Intelligence Agency [FIA] to facilitate en-hanced due diligence requests contain information from multiple sources, not solely Interpol. Though this is a minor distinction, I felt that it was important to clar-ify this for the record. Mr. Speaker, section 18 of the Financial Inte lligence Agency Act 2007 gives the Financial Intell igence Agency the power to disclose information of its own volition or upon request to the Minister of Finance if the disclosure is for the purpose of enabling or assisting the Minister to discharge their functions under any statutory provision. Mr. Speaker, as directed by me, the Ministry of Finance requested additional background infor-mation on the company, its principals, and its benef icial owners. Based upon the information provided by the Financial Intelligence Agency, in addition to the checks already conducted by the Registrar of Companies, the Ministry was able to proceed with the appl ication. Mr. Speaker, there has been a lot of attention given to Arbi trade inside of this House, in traditional media, and in social media. Some of this commentary has erroneously conflated the Government’s approval of a licence for this company to purchase property with due diligence done on any digital asset issued by Arbitrade prior to incorporation in Bermuda, specifically the dignity token. I wish to make it clear to this Honourable House that the Government of Bermuda has not examined, scrutinised, or approved any digital asset i ssued by Arbitrade, and to date, no app lication has been received under the Initial Coin Offering Act [Limited Liability Company (Initial Coin Offering) Amendment Act, 2018 (the “ICO Act”) ] for the issuance of a digital asset. Additionally, there has been no licence issued by the Bermuda Mone tary Authority to Arbitrade to conduct a digital asset business. The approval for a company to purchase property is wholly unrelated to the Bermuda’s digital asset regime and it would not be correct to state that one will affect the other, or to i mply, as some have, that approval to purchase property is a sign that other approvals are imminent. Mr. Speaker, it is my hope that following this explanation all persons, both inside this House and outside this House will allow the process for any l icence which may be issued to any company looking to conduct digital asset business in Bermuda to follow its normal course. We should trust the systems in place and the independent Bermuda Monetary A uthority to protect investors and the reputation of Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me to make this short, but important, personal explanation.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Premier. Thank you, Members, for the indulgence. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, and for the sake of our li stening audience, we are sitting today specifically to deal with one matter. It is the only item on the agenda for us today. It is the second reading of the Economic Su bstance Act 2018 in the name of the Minister of …
Members, and for the sake of our li stening audience, we are sitting today specifically to deal with one matter. It is the only item on the agenda for us today. It is the second reading of the Economic Su bstance Act 2018 in the name of the Minister of F inance. But Members and particularly those in the public audience, again, the significance and the i mportance for us to have this special sitting will become clear as the Minister presents his presentation this morning. So, I thank Members for their indulgence for allowing us to sit today for this special sitting. Minister.
Bermuda House of Assembly BILL WITHDRAWN
ECONOMIC SUBSTANCE ACT 2018 [Tabled 7th December 2018 ]
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, under the provisions of Standing Order 48, I move to withdraw the Bill entitled Economic Substance Act 2018 tabled 7th December 2018.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, any objection to that? No objections. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: The Economic Substance Act 2018 tabled 7 December 2018 was withdrawn.] SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 14 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended to enable me to i ntroduce the first reading …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAny objections? No objections. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 14 suspended.] BILL FIRST READING ECONOMIC SUBSTANCE ACT 2018 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I am intr oducing and r eading for the first time by its title the Bill entitled the Economic Substance Act 2018.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAny objections? None. Continue, Minister. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 29(1) Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 29(1) be suspended to enable the House to proceed with the second reading of the Bill entitled Economic Substance Act 2018.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 29(1) suspended.] BILL SECOND READING ECONOMIC SUBSTANCE ACT 2018 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to address Honourable Members on perhaps the most important Bill to Bermuda’s international business sector and to Bermuda’s economy that this House has had t o …
Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 29(1) suspended.]
BILL SECOND READING
ECONOMIC SUBSTANCE ACT 2018 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to address Honourable Members on perhaps the most important Bill to Bermuda’s international business sector and to Bermuda’s economy that this House has had t o consider in recent history. Mr. Speaker, we are a small jurisdiction, too small to export agricultural products, textiles, cars, boats, or just about anything Honourable Members can think of that would generate sufficient income to run our economy, except for the qualities of our people. There have been explorations in offshore fisheries and seabed mining with international fisheries quotas in the North Atlantic , and the March 11, 2014, Hami lton Declaration on Collaboration for the Conservation of the Sargasso Sea, otherwise known as the Hami lton Declaration for collaboration in high seas conservation, signed by the then Government, are hurdles to overcome. Therefore, Bermuda’s potential to exploit our only abundant natural resource, the high seas, to cr eate an export industry to the level sufficient to sustain our economy is not a realistic aspiration in the short run. Mr. Speaker, it is our people’s renowned hospitality to service our tourists and our people’s intellect and professionalism to service our international business clients that enables Bermuda as a country to survive. Mr. Speaker, some parts of the world are envious of Bermuda’s success and have now openly attacked the core of our economy, our strongest ec onomic leg, our international business industry. Mr. Speaker, I speak of the European Union [EU] who are fuelled by , or to use the term “egged on” by , nongovernmental organisations that believe that if you do not have an income tax regime then something must be wrong with you. That if your tax regime is consumption based instead of income based, then you must be the cause of diverting other countr ies’ tax revenue away from potential use to assist to feed some developing countries and care for refugees, m igrants, war victims, et cetera. Mr. S peaker, such NGOs [Non- Governmental Organisations] have clearly won this round , for they have convinced policymakers in the European Union to attack all low - or no- income tax jurisdictions, inclu ding Bermuda. This is despite the global body for cross- border tax policy to which the G20 has for years delegated its global tax competition mandate, and I am referring to the Tax Policy Division of the organis ation for Economic Co- operation and Development, better known as the OECD, which has rated Bermuda “largel y compliant,” meaning cooperative. Mr. Speaker, when one of my predecessors, Minister of Finance, the late Honourable C. Eugene Cox, wrote Bermuda’s May 15, 2000, Level One, Commitment Letter to the OECD, in respect of the 496 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly OECD’s project on harmful tax competition, along with several of our peer jurisdictions writing similar Commitment letters at that time, it ushered in an era of i ncreased partnership and understanding between the OECD and cooperative low/no income tax jurisdi ctions. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda even serves on the OECD Global Forum Working Group on Effective Exchange of Information that produced the OECD model Tax Information Exchange Agreement , called a TIEA, which was published by the OECD in April of 2002. Mr. Speaker, the OECD at that time, and continuing to this day, concluded that low - or no- income tax jurisdi ctions that have two key elements, (1) transparency in their laws and (2) exchange of information agre ements (TIEAs) are not harmful. Mr. Speaker, the OECD rating of Bermuda is “largely compliant,” is based on the OECD asses sment of Bermuda in mid- July of last year for our co mpliance with the two key elements, transparency and exchange of information. Mr. Speaker, therefore, Bermuda is one of those low - or no- income tax juri sdictions that the OECD concluded is not a harmful low- or no- income tax jurisdiction. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda’s status as a low - or no-income tax jurisdiction that is not harmful is rei nforced by compliance with OECD standards of today whereby we have adopted ev ery form of exchange of information the OECD has thrown at us, such as, au-tomatic exchange of the OECD’s version of the US FATCA [Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act ], that is, the OECD’s C ommon Reporting Standard, known as CRS , and the OECD automatic exchange of Cou ntry-by-Country Reporting Information, known as C bC. Mr. Speaker, additionally, Bermuda was among the early adopter countries of these automatic exchange of information regimes. I might add that some EU m ember states were not early adopters of the automatic exchange of information regimes . Mr. Speaker, as mentioned earlier, the European Union, influenced by some of civil society, broke rank with the long-standing OECD standard for low - or no- income tax jurisdictions and independently conclude d that irrespective of a low - or no- income tax jurisdiction having transparency and exchange of information pr otocols, it places it in, nevertheless, a harmful tax juri sdiction— or, in European terminology, a noncooperative jurisdiction— unless it submits t o the EU’s economic substance requirements, the subject of the Bill being debated today. Mr. Speaker, as is the case when one is co nfronted with a bigger and stronger opponent, a bully on the school playground, you run and tell the teac her, a responsible adult, and you seek assistance from peers of the bigger and stronger opponent. Mr. Speaker, unfortunately, it has been the case that there is, to date, no intervention by the bigger and stronger countries to cause the EU to quickly reverse its de-mands on low - or no- income tax jurisdictions. I point out that the EU body at the top of this drive to threaten blacklisting is the EU Economic and Financial Affairs Council, configured commonly known as ECOFIN , the members of which are the Finance Ministers of the 2 8 member states. Mr. Speaker, ECOFIN ’s resolutions on tax matters must be unanimous; meaning, all 28 members states of the European Union voted yes to the EU blacklist regime and its economic substance crit eria for low - or no- income tax jurisdictions. Mr. Speaker, while none of the bigger and stronger countries have been able to influence the EU, the OECD under the direction of the OECD Secretary General, with whom the Premier has met, has managed to intervene. Mr. Speaker, the OECD head of tax recently, in late November, informed several leaders of several low- or no- income tax jurisdictions, including in a bilateral phone call with our Premier, that the OECD will eventually replace the EU economic substance r egime with an OECD substance regime for low - or noincome tax jurisdictions. But this eventuality that has been discussed between the EU and the OECD is still a work in progress and, therefore, will not immediately . . . and will likely occur long after the EU blacklisting time limit of February or Mar ch of 2019. Mr. Speaker, therefore all low - or no- income tax jurisdictions must comply with the EU’s blacklist regime in order to avoid being blacklisted by the EU. Mr. Speaker, yes, one of the peers of the bi gger and stronger opponents, the G20 mandated global standard- making body for international tax cooper ation, the OECD, has come to the rescue with an ec onomic substance regime for low - or no- income tax jurisdictions to be administered by the OECD’s Forum on Harmful Tax Purposes, commonly known as the FHTP. But as I stated earlier, the cavalry is not due to arrive until long after the EU’s February/March 2019 blacklisting date. Mr. Speaker, so plainly —plainly —what the media and NGOs refer to as “offshore financial service centres” [OFC] are perceived by many in Europe ––at the “man- in-the-street” level, and at the political level––as “an antisocial element.” Mr. Speaker, it is our duty to continue to fight those misconceptions and prove them to be incorrect. The difficulty of this fight is that incidents like the Panama Papers indicate that some offshore financial centres and/or some pract itioners therein, are not up to the standards of others. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda can and has demonstrated that we are a leading blue- chip compliant of fshore financial cent re. However , the level playing field concept with global regulatory bodies appl ied to their initiatives means that Bermuda, at the top of the international cooperation, is often placed in the same bucket as others that are not. Mr. Speaker, we see opportun ity arising from the EU substance regime whereby it will force those jurisdictions at or near the bottom, in terms of compliance with international
Bermuda House of Assembly standards, to raise their game up to the international standard. We also appreciate some overseas companies may view Bermuda as a domicile of choice if companies find themselves in the position of having no choice in establishing a physical presence or ec onomic substance in the jurisdiction where they are registered and thus may seek Bermuda as a domicile of registration. Mr. Speaker, to the intellectually honest observer , the OECD base erosion and profit shifting initiative , otherwise known as BEPS, is proof in and of itself that we, the low - or no- income tax jurisdictions are not the source of the so- called pr oblem behind the large countries’ loss of portions of their income tax revenue. Mr. Speaker, the OECD BEPS initiative has identified and targeted the abusive use of the world network of large income tax countries ’ double taxation agreements, better known as DTAs , as the leading culprit of aggressive tax avoidance when DTAs are abusively coordinated with a large income tax country’s manipulation of their domestic income tax laws. Mr. Speaker, in recent years we have read press reports about the EU’s investigation of what it termed “illegal state aid,” and in some cases forcing some of their own EU member states to retroactively apply back taxes on some of the giant multinational enterprises, while at the same time the OECD BEPS has pressured the revising of all of the world’s DTAs via an OECD multilateral protocol document, commonly known as the OECD’s multilateral instrument [MLI]. Mr. Speaker, because the large countries have felt pain through the OECD’s implementation of BEPS anti -tax avoi dance initiative, there may be a perception among them that low - or no- income tax jurisdictions must somehow be made to feel or share the same pain. Mr. Speaker, this perception has led today to an EU economic substance regime founded on questionable tax policy conclusions and applied against jurisdictions that do not have the means to manipulate the global network of DTAs, nor the means to fiddle with our domestic income tax law, given we have no domestic income tax law to ab usively fiddle with to attract entities of no economic substance. Mr. Speaker, the entities of so- called “no ec onomic substance” establish themselves in low - or noincome tax jurisdictions after they have avoided large countries ’ income taxes by being positioned in a multinational corp orate structure in a way to take advantage of tax avoidance effect on the DTAs and tax avoidance elements in the domestic income tax laws of large countries. Mr. Speaker, the domestic tax laws of the large countries can be made to tax their own taxpa yers’ overseas income rather than the tax deferral, tax credit, or tax offset provisions large countries provide in their domestic income tax laws. Mr. Speaker, we believe the UK is one of the few large countries that are intellectually honest and recognise that abusive BEPS practices can be addressed by the UK domestic tax law as opposed to attacking the internationally recognised sovereign rights of countries to have a largely consumption- based tax regime. Mr. Speaker, the UK created the UK Diverted Profits T ax, which is outlined in the UK’s Finance Bill 2015, and has the stated aim to (and I quote) “‘counter the use of aggressive tax planning techniques used by multinational enterprises to divert profits from the UK to low tax jurisdictions, ’ ultimately tryin g to ensure that no business with UK operations can achieve an ‘unfair ’ tax advantage. ” This measure introduced a new UK tax on d iverted profits. The UK’s diverted profits tax operates through two basic rules. The first rule counteracts arrangements by which foreign companies exploit the permanent establishment rules in DTAs and in d omestic income tax laws. The second rule prevents companies from creating tax advantages by using transactions or entities that lack economic substance. Mr. Speaker, the UK’s diverted profits tax r egime became applicable from the 1 st of April 2015, and, as I just mentioned, its second rule prevents companies from creating tax advantages by using transactions or entities that lack economic substance. Mr. Speaker, the UK diverted profits tax regime does not attack the jurisdictions where transactions or ent ities that lack economic substance are domiciled. Mr. Speaker, large countries have the ability to do what the UK has done, but instead they have launched an unprovoked attack on us. Mr. Speaker, I say “unprovoked” because if you have the power to prevent your residents from avoiding your domestic income tax by simply revising your own domestic i ncome tax law, how are you provoked to attack a low - or no- income tax jurisdiction that has cooperated with the OECD for decades by signing up to every tax i nformation exchange agreement the international community of income tax countries has created? Mr. Speaker, to further prove my point the E uropean media outlet, Law360 Tax Authority , reported on November 30, 2018, that “a representative of Google, Inc. recently told EU lawmakers the company would be phasing out a Bermudian structure after r ecent tax changes in Ireland and by the OECD remove the tax incentive for us to use it.” Mr. S peaker, instead of attacking Bermuda, Ireland made tax changes , and the OECD created BEPS to force all of the world’s DTAs to stop abusive tax treaty shopping. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda’s centuries old consumption- based tax regime is not responsible for i ncome tax countries loss of their income tax revenue. BEPS and the much- publicised EU state aid investigations against their own members is proof of that. Mr. Speaker, if one seeks further proof The Guardian in London reported on 13 October 2014, the headline, “Ireland to close ‘double [Irish’] tax loophole.” And the 498 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly article leads with “ Apple and other multinationals based in Ireland are to be given a four -year window before the phasing out of a scheme that cuts their tax bills.” Mr. Speaker, one can now see more clearly the connection to a comment attributed to Google on November 30, 2018 to which I referred a few minutes ago. Mr. Speaker, I encourage Google, to whom Bermuda has been a good host for years, to keep the current scope of your company in Bermuda, i n Be rmuda. And help your host domicile by establishing the economic substance as required by the EU to your companies that are currently in Bermuda. We will work with you, and with all of our international bus iness stakeholders, to fulfil our collective objective to remain compliant with the EU’s standard and event ually the global community standard for economic substance. Mr. Speaker, last year on December 5, 2017, the EU listed 17 jurisdictions as non- cooperative tax jurisdictions with a list, which many refer to as the “blacklist,” changing several times since then, as some of the listed jurisdictions met commitments set by the EU and were delisted, and some were added to the list and then taken off. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda has never been listed on the EU’s list of non- cooperative jurisdictions, the EU blacklist. But this decision by the EU not to adopt an approach similar to that of the UK diverted profits tax has placed the world’s low - or noincome tax jurisdi ctions on the cusp of a watershed precipice by including low - or no- income tax jurisdi ctions on the EU’s watchlist, the so- called “grey list.” Mr. Speaker, after months of public specul ation, the EU ECOFIN, on 22 June 2018, finally pub-lished what is known as the “2.2 scoping paper” setting out the economic substance requirements that must be adopted by low - or no- income tax jurisdi ctions. Mr. Speaker, ECOFIN is a short name for the European Union’s Economic and Financial Affairs Council, the members of whi ch are the economic and finance minis ters of all 28 EU member states. Also relevant European commissioners parti cipate in their meetings. ECOFIN meetings generally take place once a month. ECOFIN is responsible for EU policy in areas of economic policy, t axation issues, and the regulation of the financial markets in capital movements, as well as economic relations with countries outside the EU. ECOFIN takes decisions by a vote of ministers from the member states. Mr. Speaker, there are three types of votes in the EU institutions, depending on the European U nion’s Lisbon Treaty provisions for the subject being dealt with. It is a simple majority of procedural dec isions, qualified majority, a weighted voting system based on the populations of member stat es used for many decisions concerning the internal markets, ec onomic affairs and trade, and unanimity for foreign pol icy, defence, judicial and police cooperation and tax ation. I emphasise “unanimity.” Mr. Speaker, though public speculation about the EU’s intentions were rife, and all low - or no - income tax jurisdictions were monitoring events of this, 22 nd June 2018 was the first time that a concrete published EU criterion emerged as an official doc ument of ECOFIN; the first time we knew exactly where the goalposts had been set. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda’s government tec hnical officers have been in constant dialogue with the Code of Conduct group and its partner EU body, the European Commission, even before the 22 nd of June of this year. Several further meetings have taken place post June 22nd to endeavour to ensure Berm uda’s legislation meets the requirements of the 2.2 scoping paper. Mr. Speaker, this economic substance legisl ation being debated today is necessary to protect Ber-muda’s status as an internationa l business centre, and we will continue to lead in complying with global standards. I have already stated that the EU standard will eventually be replaced by the OECD’s global standard, and it is Bermuda’s hallmark that we comply with global standards. Mr. Speaker, we are confident that we can avoid any adverse designations regarding our tax regime, and the structures set by the EU. And if the EU throws more curveballs at us early next year, we will adjust and adapt our regulations in order to continue to d efend Bermuda’s interests. Mr. Speaker, it was said to us, This is a take - it-or-leave- it situation. Notwithstanding this aggressive posture, we believe that from this difficult situation can come something positive. Mr. Speaker, among the positive aspects emanating from this situation are (1) this will level the playing field across jurisdictions, and (2) the OECD will eventually take over the administration of the su bstance regime, thus making it the global standard. While the origins and pathways of this substance r egime toward achieving the status of a global regime could have, in our view, been handled a bit better, Bermuda has always embraced global, or international, standards. We will seek opportunity from this by continuing to market Bermuda’s attr ibutes as a blue- chip i nternational financial centre. Mr. Speaker, having in these opening comments spoken for and to our people, Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda, who will be impacted by this legislation, and our valued international business community, I trust my c omments were not too long, but I felt that a Bill of such significance requires nothing less.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member — Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Oh, Mr. Speaker, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Member, would you yield to allow the Minister just a closing point? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: …
Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member —
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Oh, Mr. Speaker, sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Member, would you yield to allow the Minister just a closing point?
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, my apol ogies. I took a pause a little bit too long. I have still got three more pages to go.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberOh. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWell, read fast.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell . . . well . . . well, Minister, that is a first. [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou flipped to the end before you should have. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Well, Mr. Speaker, I apologise for the long lead- in. Now I am going to talk about the Bill. [Laughter] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: With your indulgence, sir.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerBeing that the other Member had not started speaking, we will let you continue. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker — Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I am perfectly happy to yield. [Laughter] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: And I thank the Member for her cooperation throughout this saga.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, this Bill will impact Bermuda’s business community, and by extension Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda, in several ways: • By imposing an obligation on an entity, d omestic or international, involved in relevant activities as defined in the Bill to maintain an economic …
Thank you.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, this Bill will impact Bermuda’s business community, and by extension Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda, in several ways: • By imposing an obligation on an entity, d omestic or international, involved in relevant activities as defined in the Bill to maintain an economic substance in Bermuda. And in that regard, comply with economic substance r equirements set forth in the Bill. Though the substance obligations will apply as well to l ocal or domestic entities, the obligations will apply only to the extent that a local entity is one that in engages in a relevant activity. • Establishing requirements to file information through the Registrar of Companies [ROC] by way of an [economic] substance declaration form, and any other appropriate forms deve loped by the ROC. • Providing for the tax treaty competent author ity for Bermuda under the International Coop-eration (Tax Information Exchange Agre ements) Act 2005, to exchange required information with EU member states, provided there is an agreement with the relevant EU member state in place under the said 2005 Act. • Requiring regulations to be made that will provide more detail on the substance regime and whereby such regulati ons will be subject to the negative resolution procedure to enable the Minister to move quickly to address any required details to ensure continued compl iance with the EU standard, even when the Legislature is not in session. • By applying certain provisions of the Registrar of Companies (Compliance Measures) Act 2017 which prescribed criminal penalties for breach of confidentiality and specifies limited circumstances where the disclosure of information is permitted. • By providing for the issuance of guidance in such manner as the Registrar of Companies thinks fit. • By providing for offences in penalty provisions set forth in the Registrar of Companies (Compliance Measures) Act 2017, in respect of the sanctions which will be applied where an ent ity is determined to have failed to comply with the economic substance requirements and subject to the required prerequisites, and ult imately to apply to the court to prevent the entity from continuing to carry on business, and ultimately result in the exercise of power to strike -off the entity. • By providing for transitional matters that apply a six -month transitional period for existing e ntities, but the substance regime will immediately apply to new entities registered after this Act comes into operation on January 1, 2019. Mr. Speaker, in- scope business activities r eferred to in the Bill as “relevant activities” for the purposes of this new regime include banking; insurance; fund management; financing; leasing; headquarters; shipping intellectual properties; holding companies; and distribution and service centres. Mr. Speaker, with respect to certain regulated industries where the applicable regulatory framework already includes heavy substance requirements in 500 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Bermuda (such as banking and insurance) such ent ities that co mply with these existing regulatory r equirements will be deemed to have sufficient evidence of compliance with the new economic substance r egime. However, this sufficiency will not include the fund sector, and I will go into detail on this in the Committee phase. Mr. Speaker, the economic substance [r egime] will apply to new companies from 1 January 2019 and existing companies from 1 July 2019. Mr. Speaker, thank you, and now I am done.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister, thank you, very much. Are we now at that f inal page? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Yes.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: For now. [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWould any other Member like to speak now? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 23. You have nothing but a smile on your face; I hope you keep that smile on throughout. How is that? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have, Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —and I had to sit for an extra second because I wanted to make sure that there was not another page that was being pulled out of the hat along with the flying bird and the handkerchief —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerUh-huh. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —and the flo wers that you expect. But, Mr. Speaker, let me say that, firstly, I would like to thank the Minister for sharing his brief with me because when we have something of this i mportance and of this magnitude on the horizon …
Uh-huh.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —and the flo wers that you expect. But, Mr. Speaker, let me say that, firstly, I would like to thank the Minister for sharing his brief with me because when we have something of this i mportance and of this magnitude on the horizon for Bermuda, it is very, very important that we are as c ooperative with each other so that we can support that which the Government needs to do. Mr. Speaker, let me commence my comments by saying that it must be tremendously frustrating for the European Union and for the countries that are members of the European Union to realise that a place as small as Bermuda has the ability to stand on the world stage, to punch above our weight, and to maintain a blue- chip jurisdiction which has appealed to so many companies over the years.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMm-hmm. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: We have done it in a way that they wished that they could have. We have done it with a taxation structure that has worked for our jurisdiction, which has not fallen afoul, and has not encouraged any company to register or operate here …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: We have done it in a way that they wished that they could have. We have done it with a taxation structure that has worked for our jurisdiction, which has not fallen afoul, and has not encouraged any company to register or operate here which is not as pristine as the reputation that we want to maintain. Mr. Speaker, I can say that periodically legi slation comes before the Honourable House that de-mands unanimous bipartisan support. We saw a sim ilar approach in the s ummer when we had to have an additional sitting to be able to agree with the CFATF requirements in order to make sure that we were not falling afoul of the regulations and rules pertaining to that particular issue. And we met it, Mr. Speaker. This Bill tod ay, the Economic Substance Act is another such example. This Bill, fortunately, had intense information sessions in which the technical officers assisted us in the Opposition of examining the content of the Bill so that we were fully apprised of the impli cations and of the urgency. The tech team, in my opinion, Mr. Speaker, has given yeoman service to our country in ensuring that the legislation has reached the stage where it is today. They have literally jumped through moving hoops of fire. And in so doin g, Mr. Speaker, every time they thought that we had reached where we needed to be, the EU Code of Conduct Committee changed the goalposts, and we had to respond, and we had to comply, and they have done it. And they have worked, I would say, 24/7, 365–– perhaps not quite that much, but I am sure they feel as though they have. So for that, Mr. Speaker, I believe that it is i mportant that we as an entire House express our si ncere thanks to the committee, to the tech team, who have worked so assiduously in order to ensure that we have reached the standards that are necessary with this legislation. Mr. Speaker, the burdens that have been placed upon our jurisdiction were necessary for us to bear because without it, Bermuda would be blacklis ted if we are seen to be hosting companies that may not show that they have sufficient substance in r espect of the physical presence that has been required to satisfy the OECD and the EU. According to the Mi nister’s brief, Mr. Speaker, the challenges are not just Bermuda’s to face. But as a country we pride ourselves on being able to maintain a position on the cutting edge of regulation, not just for our own standards but internationally. Mr. Speaker, notwithstanding the additional steps that were needed in order to meet the standards imposed, we have to examine the opportunities that
Bermuda House of Assembly arise from this exercise. We are up against, as the Minister indicated, extremely tight deadlines, in that legislation and supporting regs have to be in place by December 31st. Companies that are registering as from January 1, 2019, will be subject to the new r egime. Existing companies have a six -month trans itional period by which the regulations and the rules will be applied to them. I do not know any country, Mr. Speaker, who is happy when somebody tells them to jump, we ask, How high?, when we are already on the way up. But that is what we have been faced with in this particular legislation and the demands which have been placed on our jurisdiction, based on the necessity for this. So we can pr ide ourselves in not just meeting great reg ulatory standards in isolation, but that we can meet i nternational standards and continue to hold our place on the stage with far larger jurisdictions. Mr. Speaker, you will know that blacklisting threats are no t new to us. It has not been too long ago that the former Finance Minister, the Honourable E. T. Richards, as well as the [former] Premier Cannonier, along with [former] Premier Dunkley, found themselves in situations of having to go and be toe- to-toe and face- on-face with a French jurisdiction because they decided that Bermuda needed to be blacklisted. They had the opportunity to push back. This Gover nment has also continued to maintain our reputation and our requirements internationally to ensure that blacklisting is not our lot. We have the responsibility to our jurisdiction and to our people, Mr. Speaker, to ensure that our country continues to be held in high esteem and in good regard for the regulations that we employ in order to ensure that we do the things that are needed. Mr. Speaker, one might question, What are some of the opportunities? Well, the Minister indicated in his brief, having economic substance in Bermuda, effectively means that you have got to physically set up shop. You have to be seen not to be a shell company; you have got to setup shop. In setting up shop, what are some of those opportunities? We will find that companies will require, perhaps, rental spaces. They will require significant staffing––and maybe si gnificant to their nee ds. I do not think that it is expected that they go above and beyond to bring in bodies just for the sake of bringing in bodies, but they will have to employ people significant to their needs, Mr. Speaker. And it is also important to recognise that if a company . . . and let me just back up one second to say that having a presence is based on a company carrying out the relevant activity that is delineated in the legislation. So let me just say, Mr. Speaker, that many companies already conform to that requi rement. And we have, as the Minister indicated, other standalone legislation—such as banking legislation and insurance legislation —that demands in and of itself the necessity to have a physical presence in order to show economic substance. So, the regulati ons that will append to the Act that we are debating will actually provide a carveout for those industries by vi rtue of the fact that they are required under their own specific legislation to comply. For that, the impact on some of our larger insurance com panies, will not be that significant because they are already required to conform [to this] based on their separate legislation. Mr. Speaker, it is important as we go through this that the Government advises the public. The Mi nister wanted to speak to Mr . and Mrs. Bermuda. It is important that we look at how we accommodate the need for new companies or new compliances, to be able to staff their entities to comply with the legisl ation. It may mean that there has to be a certain relax ation when it comes to immigration. We may find that there might not be sufficient talent on Island at the moment . . . insufficient numbers to adequately meet the demand which will be required by this Act. I just want to say that we have to be mindful that when we look at immi gration as an issue, we cannot succumb to creating a frenzy because it is a good talking point. We have to ensure that we have the vision that supports the needs of the country. And so it may be necessary to bring people in and to have an immigration polic y that accommodates in the short term an atmosphere which permits these companies to be able to comply with these new requirements. Mr. Speaker, some of these very people who may be required to come in under different immigr ation policies are going to be the ones who help us save our bacon, in terms of the requirements that they are placing upon us as a jurisdiction to be able to conform with this new legislation. Mr. Speaker, it is going to be important that companies are able to have boots on the ground in short order. And in the same way in which we were able to respond to the legislation to ensure that companies fulfil what they have to do, we also have to conform and respond to the requirements to ensure that companies can have the necessary boots on the ground as they comply, as time goes forward. Mr. Speaker, I do not wish to be naïve in assuming that all of the positive points of this legislation would be the only challenge that we have in its i mplementation, because I think it would be naïve if we did not address the fact there could conceivably be some downside. And I say “some downside.” I do not want anybody to believe for a second that I am thinking that the sky is falling, because I believe that we have shown our ability to rise above, but I t hink we have to be realistic. There may be some companies, Mr. Speaker, who elect not to continue their presence in Bermuda for varying reasons. While they may be engaging in some of the relevant activities, they might start to look at some of their options to relocate onshore as the new United States administration is star ting to make things look a little bit more appealing to them, and they may start to reconsider. 502 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly But that is okay, Mr. Speaker. And I say it is okay, not because I want to embrace the fac t that we may have some job losses in the process, but it is okay if it means that someone has to leave in order for us to be able to maintain that level of excellence that is expected of us as a jurisdiction, and on which our basic economy is built. Mr. Speaker, I know that some of the recent mergers and acquisitions which have occurred in the insurance industry . . . it is imperative that we continue to closely monitor and that we look at any possible diminution in the workforce that is likely to arise f rom that phenomenon coupled with what is going to be required here as companies consider whether they wish to use the six -month transition to comply to a new standard or whether they choose to relocate elsewhere. We heard the Minister give an appeal to Google, to whom we have been incredible hosts, and as opposed to them taking advantage of an opportunity to say that they will relocate, to invite them to con-sider staying and setting up and meeting the substance requirements that are outlined in the necess ities of this Act. So, Mr. Speaker, I believe that when this legislation is enacted, we can make lemonade out of the lemons that we have been dealt. We will continue to be a jurisdiction where transparency is the key. We will continue to say that we can ha ve the information exchange that we have been known for. And if there are more TIEAs that have to be signed, we will obv iously comply and conform with that requirement, Mr. Speaker. Because I think that once all is said and done, when the dust has settled, and when we have implemented this legislation and we have jumped through the hoops, as we said, not just as a technical team but as a country, once that is all said and done, when the dust settles, I believe that Bermuda will be considered in the light in which it has always been, once we went into the international business arena, and that is a jurisdiction that is well regulated. Mr. Speaker, the one thing that obviously gave me a little cause for pause because of the d emands was that of the requirement for information on beneficial ownership. Now, we know that this has been an extreme sticking point. If the idea of benef icial ownership is one that is going to . . . or the r equirement is one that is going to be applied across the board internationally s o that every country ranks pari passu with the next, then perhaps we can say we do not want to fall below that standard. But we have been asked to do things which other countries larger than us, with more resources than ours, do not have to do. They do not have to do these things, Mr. Speaker. And it is very interesting that because of our jurisdiction, and obviously with the threat that we pose to the stability of some of these larger countries who think that their tax base has been eroded because of Bermu da’s excellence and they just have not figured out how to effectively respond. So they have come with a club, and with, you know, the bully attitude to which the Minister referred, to say, You will do things our way. And because we have no choice in this m atter, Mr. Speaker, we will do things their way and we will get them at some point to understand that even though we will do things [their] way we will still find a way to outstrip and to excel because it is what we do. We know how to respond, Mr. Speaker , to challenges. We have seen it from the advent of our international companies’ business. We have seen it across various administrations and we recognise what is needed in order for our 21 square miles to stay afloat. And we will examine ways in which our responsibilities are maintained on an effective basis. Mr. Speaker, in closing, I would want to say that we support the legislation because, as I said, we have no choice. We will continue to work together with the Government. We will support the Governm ent in its bid to keep us from being blacklisted, [which would] thereby create a detriment to our economic success. It would be remiss of me in closing though, Mr. Speaker, if I did not also express appreciation to the companies who have gone through the c onsultative process and given their input and given their fears and given their observations and the realities that they will face on a practical basis, and recognising that they have a very short time within which to comply. It may not neces-sarily be easy for them, but I believe that when we all work together and when everybody lifts together, the load will be lighter than if we were lifting alone. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Premier. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to first thank the Minister of Finance who has done stellar work over the past month …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Premier. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to first thank the Minister of Finance who has done stellar work over the past month to get us to this particular point. He took over the brief from me, and as he sometimes says, he feels like he is drinking out of a fire hose.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberHydrant. Hon. E. David Burt: Hydrant —fire hydrant, sorry. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Such is the nature of Gover nment, c learly. But I also want to thank the technical officers who are here inside of the Chamber. With the Business Development Unit, and the Attorney General’s Chambers, and …
Hydrant.
Hon. E. David Burt: Hydrant —fire hydrant, sorry.
[Laughter]
Hon. E. David Burt: Such is the nature of Gover nment, c learly. But I also want to thank the technical officers who are here inside of the Chamber. With the Business Development Unit, and the Attorney General’s Chambers, and the Bermuda Monetary Author ity, and the Ministry of Finance and all those who have been literally working around the clock to make sure
Bermuda House of Assembly that we are here today to pass this very important piece of legislation. In addition, Mr. Speaker, I would also like to make sure I thank, not only the technical officers who are here, but also the persons inside of industry who have been very helpful over the past year as we have been dealing with this particular threat, and those who would be on the Insurance Advisory Council who advise the Minister of Finance and have been working closely with the Ministr y on these particular matters. Mr. Speaker, this has not been an easy pr ocess at all. And after much discussion, numerous trips, conference calls, and communications with the European Union, we are at this point on a Monday. Today’s debate is without question an important one, and many such debates are taking place in special sessions in Assemblies throughout the Overseas Territories, as we look to meet the political commitment that was given by myself and other fellow Overseas Territories leaders last ye ar to the European Union. The conversations amongst Premiers and Ministers of Finance of the Overseas Territories have been constant. We all recognise that this process has been less than ideal; however, we are here today, Mr. Speaker. And today we are going to pass legislation which some fear may be the end of Bermuda. Well, I want to make it very clear, Mr. Speaker, that I am sure that all 36 Members who sit inside of this House will make sure that this is not the case. Because we have an international standard which we have to live up to, and as international standards are changing, Bermuda as an international financial centre must continue to play its particular part. The only thing is, Mr. Speaker, in this particular case, what we are doing is not necessarily in r esponse to an international standard. What we are d oing is in response to the European Union who has decided that due to whatever political pressures they are facing at home, that this is the best way to a ddress this particular situation. The issue is, Mr. Speaker, that we are clearly transparent in our taxes. We are clearly transparent with the information of which we share. And we are compliant with the latest international standards. The truth of the matter is that it is not tax changes [i n Be rmuda] that are going to address the challenges which are needed, but it is tax changes and laws that are going to be required in other jurisdictions and not ours. However, as those changes seem to be difficult, they seem to have taken a differ ent appr oach, and this is the approach [which] they have [ended up with] . The global financial system, Mr. Speaker, in my opinion, works best when it is done in a way where there is consensus across all countries and all regions of the world. The OECD Global Forum is the correct structure for this. However, for whatever reason, the European Union decided to go outside of that remit and push ahead. As the Minister of Finance has noted, the OECD is looking to adopt a lot of the items that are inside of the EU standard to apply to a new global standard. But that global standard is not here. So we are now being subject to what many of us have found to be a subjective process. The process has not been clear, Mr. Speaker, and it has been difficult. The European Union di d not issue guidance until July on this particular matter, even though this process has been ongoing for a while. So it was not until July that clear guidance was issued from ECOFIN. After that, and as the Gover nment and industry worked together to fashion legislation, it seemed as though they were continually chang ing views, as other people said, the continuously moving goalposts. And I said, Mr. Speaker, Berm uda is not unique, as this has been the experience of many other countries which have been unfairl y targe ted by the European Union, and, as I said, the conversations between ourselves and other Overseas Terr itories, has been constant. Mr. Speaker, this will represent a change to the way that we do business. There is no question about it. But for it to be successful, it must be fairly applied to all countries. And the assurance that I want to give to industry that are listening, and for those persons who have been customers of Bermuda for a very long time, what I will make sure to ensure is that we will check to ensure that this is fairly applied to all countries, Mr. Speaker. Because the European Union has said that there will be no exceptions, we will look to ensure that there will be no exceptions, Mr. Speaker. If Bermuda is going to make changes, then the rules that apply to us have to apply to everyone else, because I am certain that this Parliament will not allow ourselves to be put at a competitive disadvantage, based upon what other countries are doing. And so for that, it is very important. So I want to give that assurance to industry, that we are going to watch and ensure that this is going to be fairly applied across the board to all coun-tries. And if it isn’t, then we might have to have anot her discussion, Mr. Speaker. And there might have to be additional changes. Because there cannot be a case where certain countries are put at a competitive disadvantage to others due to a system which, as we have found out, has not been the most fair and/or transparent system, a system which even some persons inside the European Union have recognised has not been a fair and/or transparent system, that there are some things which are being applied to third cou ntries which are not being applied to their own partic ular country, Mr. Speaker. And so, for that, duri ng the transition period, we will take a very careful [look] to ensure that this process in being implemented in a fair fashion. However, Mr. Speaker, we have to accept, and as I explained when I had meetings with the I nsurance Advisory Committee and the w ider consult ative group of about 40 persons, global standards are changing. And they are constantly changing. Twenty 504 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly years ago there were such things as secret bank accounts, where no one knew, and they were just accessed by a number. That is not the case nowadays. And that will not be the case going forward. There will be a continued evolution of global standards. And this is just one of those particular steps. What we have to do, Mr. Speaker, is that we have to collectively figure out how we are going to meet this particular challenge. I am gratified by what seems to be the recent consensus from industry here locally that is emerging, which has stated, as long as these items are fairly applied to all countries, there are opportunities for Bermuda to grow. And there are opportunities for additional jobs and economic activity inside of Bermuda due to the quality of our jurisdiction. But that can only be the case, Mr. Speaker, if these items are applied fairly to all countries. What I want to say, Mr. Speaker , is that just like when there was US tax reform last year, and when the Government met with industry and assured them that if any approvals were needed to facilitate either the relocation of staff or anything to make it easier to make a success, I would s ay, of these particular changes, the Government will listen and act accordingly. Because I am sure what all of us want, inside of this Chamber and inside of this country, is for there to be more jobs and for there to be more ec onomic activity. There are s ome who have said that economic substance can be a benefit to Bermuda. I can agree with them. But we also have to recognise that it will be a significant change and there will be some companies that will elect not to continue their presence in Bermuda. Thi s is something that we have to reco gnise, Mr. Speaker, and that is something that will be a fact. What we have to do, however, Mr. Speaker, is work collectively. And I say that very often because items, such as today, and unhelpful headlines that have been read that can create uncertainty inside of our industries, is not where we need to be. So, I want the listening public, I want the Members of the Government and the Opposition and you, Mr. Speaker, to understand that this Government will lead collectively in this effort working with industry to ensure that this fundamental change is a success. We will do whatever is required to ensure . . . whether or not that is meeting with the highest levels of the affected companies. The Business Development Agency and ourselves are already formulating a strategy in order to do this. The Business Development Agency have already been meeting with affected stakeholders, fine- tuning our messaging out of this to say, What are we going to say to the world to let them know what these changes mean and how these changes can be a benefit? We are going to continue that work and that effort, Mr. Speaker, because it is essential. Change is never easy for anyone, And for this it will mean a fundamental shift in many companies, in many law firms, in many accounting firms, in many service providers, and many people in the trust and private client areas, et cetera. However, we will meet this challenge, Mr. Speaker. And part of the way we will meet this challenge is by making sure that t he Government makes the investments in technology to make sure that these new processes are not overly burdensome, that we can make them quick, and that we can make them efficient. It will cost money, Mr. Speaker. It will require an investment. But for an inte rnational financial centre like ours, we have to be there to make sure that we are keeping up with the standards. And the other thing I want to say, Mr. Speaker, is that there has also been discussion as to whet her or not we can start forming regional bodies of c ooperation to share some of these compliance burdens which may make it a little bit easier for us to compete and will make it less burdensome on some of the countries that are affected. This, Mr. Speaker, is not easy. This is not something that we would have done under our own volition. But as long as international standards are changing and as we hold ourselves to be the premier international financial centre, we have to keep up with them. Our insurance industry is too valuable to risk being p laced on any European Union list, and we will not be on any European Union list, Mr. Speaker. We will continue to remain in these good graces and this Act is another step in that particular direction. So, in closing, Mr. Speaker, I wish to congratulate, again, the Minister of Finance. I wish to thank the numerous officials who have worked night and day to get us to this point. And what I will say, Mr. Speaker, is I will call for unity, not only inside of this Chamber, [but also] inside of the business community, and everyone else. Over the next six months we must make this regime work. This Government will lead that effort and we expect to have all hands on deck to en-sure that we can make a success of it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. ScottThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first, I would like to ensure the Premier that he has our collect ive support in making sure that this initiative works, and that we remain as the premier jurisdiction that we are. [Desk thumping]
Ms. Leah K. ScottMr. Speaker, I have been riding this train for a very, very long time. Bermuda exempl ifies the old adage that if you build it, people will come. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Ms. Leah K. ScottWe created a model that has been successful. We have created a model that has worked for years, and we are known, among other things, as being a jewel in t he Atlantic. Mr. Speaker, because the OECD taxes its people heavily and they do not like the fact that …
We created a model that has been successful. We have created a model that has worked for years, and we are known, among other things, as being a jewel in t he Atlantic. Mr. Speaker, because the OECD taxes its people heavily and they do not like the fact that peo-ple who do have money are able to transfer their wealth to other jurisdictions [where] they can be charged lower taxes, they want to vilify the inter national financial centres. So they bully us into compl ying with taxes, as others have spoken today, which they do not apply to themselves. Now, Mr. Speaker, the EU has not managed their affairs in a way that has been financially viable, and so they are t urning to the international finance centres to sponsor them. So they started out with the UBO [Ultimate Beneficial Ownership] Register, they started out with us complying with all kinds of KYC [Know Your Customer] regulations, and this whole process, Mr. S peaker, has been a progression. We started with TIEAs in 2009. Then we started with FATCA in 2010, and UK FATCA, the common reporting standard in 2017, country -bycountry reporting, the UBO Register started in 2013, and now we have EU substance. And just to, Mr. Speaker . . . I want to just address the level of hypocrisy that the OECD and the EU have applied to us in terms of what we are required to do. And I would just ask for Members’ patience —
Ms. Leah K. ScottSo we have to complete the local bank’s application form. We have to provide a copy of the trust instrument and its structure chart. We have to provide a certified abstract of the trust deed, or a letter issued by a regulated trust company, or a law firm acceptable to …
So we have to complete the local bank’s application form. We have to provide a copy of the trust instrument and its structure chart. We have to provide a certified abstract of the trust deed, or a letter issued by a regulated trust company, or a law firm acceptable to the bank providing a certified abstract of the trust deed and confirming the following information: The name of the trust; the legal form nature and purpose; date and country of establishment; the trustees; its purpose and objects; all beneficiaries; classes of beneficiaries; any other parties; all donors, settlers, grantors, and other persons making the arrangements; confirmation as to whether additional funds or assets will be paid into the trust, by whom and when; and the details of the relationship of the seller to the beneficiary. Then we need a statement of assets within the trust and their current value, and this statement has to be certified. In addition to that, we also have to have an accountant certifying a statement with their full name, signature, occupation, professional registration number, professional address, telephone number, email address, [and] date on which the document was cert ified. For each beneficiary we have to have a cert ified or notarised copy of a passport [and] declaration of tax status. For each US national a W -9 form. A current utility bill. For each authorised signatory, a cert ified or notarised copy of a passport; a certificate of good standing for a company; source of wealth; prov ision of audited statements; information from the company’s website; [and] source of funds. Have dividends been paid? What were the dates they were paid? What was the amount? Who paid them? How long has the trust held the shares of the company? Mr. Speaker, that is just to open up a bank account in Bermuda. Let me tell you what you have to do to have a bank account in the UK.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCome on. Give it to us. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Leah K. ScottA tenancy agreement, a recent utility bill or a credit card statement —in the UK. [Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberThat’s it!
Ms. Leah K. ScottLet me tell you about Switzerland. Swiss banks are happy to have foreign residents as customers. You can hold an account in Swiss francs or in an array of other world currencies. All banks requir e customers to prove their identi ty with an official document, usually a passport. And …
Let me tell you about Switzerland. Swiss banks are happy to have foreign residents as customers. You can hold an account in Swiss francs or in an array of other world currencies. All banks requir e customers to prove their identi ty with an official document, usually a passport. And if you cannot go to Switzerland you can mail your passport in!
Ms. Leah K. ScottAnd if you are concerned about privacy, you can get a numbered account, Mr. Speaker!
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWow! 506 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Leah K. Scott: But they want us to go through all of this to demonstrate that we have to comply with their foolishness. Mr. Speaker, there i s a thing called “sovereignty.” And if you will allow …
Ms. Leah K. ScottSovereignty means that nation states are free to decide for themselves about the kind of democracy that they want, the kind of rulers that they want, and their policies, internal and externally. Often the concept of sovereignty is invoked to delin eate the distinction between taking decisions on their own …
Sovereignty means that nation states are free to decide for themselves about the kind of democracy that they want, the kind of rulers that they want, and their policies, internal and externally. Often the concept of sovereignty is invoked to delin eate the distinction between taking decisions on their own by nation states and to be autonomous and independent when they pursue policies that are in their interest and their people’s interest and not according to the dictates of a foreign power. Mr. Speaker, you know, the EU has devised this, We-are-doing- this-for-your-own- good, kind of thing. Base erosion and profit shifting is where people shift their money from a higher tax jurisdiction to a lower tax jurisdiction. Mr. Speaker, if a company is being prudent in its business management, why is that a problem? Every country has a tax base, and that tax base determines the level of taxes that people pay. The level of tax that they pay should be enough to manage their infrastructure, invest in education, invest in technology, to do the things that they need to do as a jurisdiction. But, Mr. Speaker, I could be wrong, but what I think is —and please excuse me, and if I am out of line you can tell me and I will take my seat.
Ms. Leah K. ScottThe OECD consists of a bunch of wealthy, non- black people —
Ms. Leah K. Scott—who are not happy with this jurisdiction of brown people being successful. [Desk thumping]
Ms. Leah K. ScottSo, how can it be that those brown people down there are buying houses, and they are being successful, and they are running busines ses? How can that be? And I get that there are other jurisdictions that are also being caught up in this, and Crown depen dencies. And …
So, how can it be that those brown people down there are buying houses, and they are being successful, and they are running busines ses? How can that be? And I get that there are other jurisdictions that are also being caught up in this, and Crown depen dencies. And maybe those jurisdictions do not have brown people. But let me tell you something. We have been successful as a jurisdiction and they can’t stand it. And so because they can’t stand it, they want to make sure that our success is taken away.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCorrect.
Ms. Leah K. ScottBut you know what? We will rise out of these ashes!
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberExactly.
Ms. Leah K. ScottWe will not be subjected to their plan. And as the Premier said, we will go along with the things that they have required of us, but we will be who we are, and that is the jewel in the middle of the Atlantic. Now, Mr. Speaker, there are people …
We will not be subjected to their plan. And as the Premier said, we will go along with the things that they have required of us, but we will be who we are, and that is the jewel in the middle of the Atlantic. Now, Mr. Speaker, there are people who have said, Well, why don’t we get blacklisted? Why are we complying with this? Blacklisting actually is not an option. When you are blacklisted you cannot do an ything. The banks will not process money. So it is not anything t hat we can do. But we can show them that we are still able to be the jurisdiction that we are. Mr. Speaker, this is going to increase our cost of doing business, and we have already seen that the BMA increased their fees. We passed that legislation a couple of weeks ago. This is going to be a burden to us. But at the end of the day, as others have s aid, it will also be an opportunity. I am looking forward to the opportunity. I am looking forward for us to show the EU that we can survive that no matter what they want to do to us. And, you know, we have to now as a jurisdi ction start being creative, Mr. Speaker, because one of the things the legislation does do (if you want to call it that) is impose upon us a level playing field, including Cayman [Islands], BVI [ British Virgin Islands ], and those other jurisdictions. So now we have to get crea-tive in our legislation. We have to get funky with our marketing. We have to develop products and develop things that will continue to allow people to invest their money in Bermuda and want to be here as a jurisdi ction. And I think that as we work together, we can do it. Now, Mr. Speaker, there have been people who have criticised the Premier and the Government about this. I am going to tell you this. If God were d irecting this himself, it would not make a difference because the EU thinks that they can do what they want. So I give kudos to the Premier for his efforts. I give kudos to all of the people from the BMA and the technical officers because they have done yeoman’s work. I have sat in the industry meetings, Mr. Speaker, where we have reviewed the legislation and we reviewed consultation papers and we have asked them to go back and, you know, say, Can we change this? Can we change that? And I cannot imagine an ything more humiliating than being an educated person, in a senior level position, and asking for some concessions and being told no, and being told, We don’t care what happens to your country.
Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Ms. Leah K. ScottIt is ridiculous, Mr. Speaker. And we should not be subjected to it. But we are, and here we are! And so we will rise up to meet the challenge and we will continue to be successful. Yes, we may lose some revenue, but I think that we will also …
It is ridiculous, Mr. Speaker. And we should not be subjected to it. But we are, and here we are! And so we will rise up to meet the challenge and we will continue to be successful. Yes, we may lose some revenue, but I think that we will also gain some. And we are all going to be all right in the end. Again, thank you to everybody for your efforts. And we will see what the next six months will bring. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 21. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongMr. Speaker, thank you for acknowledging me here. Mr. Speaker, if only we were sovereign!
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongI have a feeling that the sovereign nation that we are affiliated with as a colony has no objection to what the EU is doing. Somebody could stand up and correct me, but that is the world we live in. Mr. Speaker, when most Bermudians blithely go about their daily …
I have a feeling that the sovereign nation that we are affiliated with as a colony has no objection to what the EU is doing. Somebody could stand up and correct me, but that is the world we live in. Mr. Speaker, when most Bermudians blithely go about their daily business, and when the festive cheer makes its appearance, we are called t o this Chamber to deal with a matter of monumental i mportance to the country and its future. Mr. Speaker, the EU has once again, along with other global bodies, raised the bar considerably to ensure that Berm uda complies with regulations that are imposed a nd will in turn become a global standard that will undermine our global and strategic competitiveness. Mr. Speaker, let me just, for the sake of Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda out there, convey to them the ground zero substance of this Bill. Again, the revised Bill is called Economic Substance Act 2018, and I want Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda to hear this. Clause 3, section 1 and 2, says as follows —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNow, Member , you reference to clauses of which Bill?
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongOf the Economic . . . the revised Bill that we were handed this morning, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe are not in Committee yet. You cannot speak to it.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerBut we are not in open debate right now.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongI am not drawing attention to it. Mr. Speaker, we all know, as the Finance Mini ster indicated, that the EU requires that all companies which are, in our parlance, exempt companies, foreign owned companies that are registered in Bermuda must, if they have not a physical presence, establish one …
I am not drawing attention to it. Mr. Speaker, we all know, as the Finance Mini ster indicated, that the EU requires that all companies which are, in our parlance, exempt companies, foreign owned companies that are registered in Bermuda must, if they have not a physical presence, establish one in Bermuda within the next six months, or Berm uda must ensure that they are no longer on our Com-pany Registry, in short. Mr. Speaker, and I understand, and [it] may be an estimate that I am giving you, that we are look-ing at 12[,000] to 14,000 companies on our Company Registry, maybe 4[,000] to 5,000 of those are Berm udian companies, along with those in IB. We could be looking at between, again, a rough estimate, 6[,000] to 8,000 companies. It is unrealistic to think that even 95 per cent of that figure of companies will decide to domicile in Bermuda. And, frankly, we do not have the capacity to accommodate them. We do not. Perhaps we will get a few score to do so, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100. We can derive some economic benefit from that. But if people are weighing this on a cost benefit analysis, this does pose an existential threat to Bermuda. Now, positively speaking, as many hav e ind icated, it does not seem that this is going to affect our foreign owned exempt companies that do have a domicile here for over the past 30, 40 years, partic ularly in our bread and butter business, which is the insurance sector, captive reinsurance, ge neral insurance. Bermuda has operated in a way, it has been an intrinsic part of the global ecosystem. Those companies will continue to flourish in Bermuda. But the reality is that most of that business which provided those services for those 6[,000] or 7[,000], or possibly 8,000 companies, those law firms and other service providers are faced with a major challenge that really goes to the heart of their bus iness model. 508 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, over 50 years ago you would have had a pioneering law firm, such as CD&P [Conyers Dill & Pearman]. The scion of one of its foun ders, Mr. Pearman, is here in this Chamber as a sitting Member, that company, along with—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerTry not to make it personal now.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongThat Member and the then AS&K were the pioneers in this business. But even before that, going back to Sir Henry Tucker, with the trust business, with his experience on Wall Street, going back to the 1930s, perhaps, he began to pos ition Bermuda as a place that could become …
That Member and the then AS&K were the pioneers in this business. But even before that, going back to Sir Henry Tucker, with the trust business, with his experience on Wall Street, going back to the 1930s, perhaps, he began to pos ition Bermuda as a place that could become a refuge for foreign capital assets. So even while Bermuda’s tourism industry was growing, that was always a small, but significant, part of what Bermuda was in terms of what it represented in terms of its overall economy. Mr. Speaker, a major sea change occurred in the 1980s, and that was the so- called revolution that occurred in the Western world, particularly around countries such as the UK and the USA, personified by its leadership at the time of President Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. I spoke of this a couple of weeks ago. It is during that era, characterised by a phil osoph ical sea change in terms of government and pol itics whereby it ushered in what we now commonly refer to as a neoliberal era, which then gave birth (to some degree) to what we now know as a global eco nomy. Bermuda as a major offshore centre, and others, became intrinsic to the establishment of that new global economy —1980s. Mr. Speaker, I believe, and I have said before, that that era has changed. It is over now, I should say. And it ended in 2008 with the Great Recession. So Bermuda benefited along with these other offshore tax, low - or no- income tax jurisdictions, as the Finance Minister says. As a consequence of the things that were put in place, around what is called the assum ptions underlying neoliberalism and the global economy, with Bermuda and the rest of these offshore juri sdictions, and Bermuda being a major beneficiary. The question now is, If that era is indeed over (and I contend it is) how are we going to reposition ourselves? And I see Member s exuding optimism here, including the Premier and I agree with him because Bermuda has been very resilient, and has always been able to meet these strategic challenges over the last 100 years or so. The question is, How will we meet this challenge? That i s the question. Because it is real. I might also add that, again, [regarding] the sovereign of which we associate ourselves, the UK, let’s not forget, there is another deadline there as well. And maybe the Finance Minister will talk about this, because the y have been after us to provide or establish a public registry of beneficial ownership. Some even view that as even a more major threat, or just as much of a threat, as what we are dealing with now, from a strategic standpoint.
Mr. R olfe CommissiongWe also know that this deadline is probably imminently upon us, probably within the next 5, 6, 7 or 8 months, I believe. I stand to be corrected. So, again, if in 2008, that era which gave rise to these offshore business centres, such as Bermuda, came to an end, …
We also know that this deadline is probably imminently upon us, probably within the next 5, 6, 7 or 8 months, I believe. I stand to be corrected. So, again, if in 2008, that era which gave rise to these offshore business centres, such as Bermuda, came to an end, and if, as I contend, we are going through a transitional period, post 2008, look at the politics in Europe, look at the politics in the US and in other countries. The question then is, What is going to come out the other side? We have seen indications that it could be very, very ugly. Look at the politics in the US right now. Look at the politics in Europe and the UK. I might also note the question of France right now. What are they protesting over? They are protesting over the taxes that have placed a major burden upon lower - and middle- income people in France, and more particularly, in terms of the cost of living. These are i ssues that resonate quite powerfully. So some of the stresses and strains and pressures that are imminent right now in European politics is also exacerbating the moves to rein in of fshore centres like Bermuda who have done quite well, over the last three or four decades. Again, that era has come to an end. The question then again r emains, How will we adapt to the new geopolitical real ities that are quickly emerging and concretising right before our eyes, globally? So, Mr. Speaker, moving on, I remember during the previous five years when we were in Oppos ition, that every now and then we would take a reput ational hit, particularly around the issues of Google and the machinations around taxes by utilising islands, the Netherlands and Bermuda, to be able to avoid having to pay a major share of its tax burden to its home country. It was clear over the last five years that our role in that was causing increasing reputational damage to Bermuda. I always remember standing up, Mr. Speaker, as you may recall, and saying, Well, at the very least, shouldn’t we (the government) be getting paid, in terms of fees, a littl e more (in terms of the fact that we were incurring reputational damage)? I remember at the time, Mr. Speaker, these companies, including one of the richest companies in the world, such as Google, probably early in 2012 or 2013, certainly even before we l ost the Government (i.e., being the PLP Government), were paying no more than like maybe between $7[,000] and $10,000 per annum in fees. I note that the last Government, the previous Finance Minister, not Mr. Burt, of course, I am talking about Mr. Richards, had proposed to take it up to $25,000, a paltry sum, especially because of
Bermuda House of Assembly the fact that it was causing us increasing — increasing—reputational damage around the world. Well, it is clear now that they have stepped up and said, No more. Mr. Speaker, the Fr ench have an expression, it is called, r ealpolitik , and that is an expression associated with politics. It essentially, boiled down to its essence, means that “might makes right,” that political decisions should not be contingent upon romantic notions, or even morality, but only what is in extreme self -interest of your country. Notwithstanding the fact that we know, for example, that on the continent of Europe itself you have tax havens (to use that term), such as Ireland, the Netherlands, Luxembourg —all m embers of the EU — Switzerland, an affiliated member. We know that. But yet, they would ask us to do what they themselves are not prepared to impose upon their own member countries. That is an example of realpolitik. And so all this cry about, you know, mis placed assertions that somehow we are a sovereign nation and they should treat us as one is totally misplaced because, one, we are not a sovereign nation. We are affiliated [with] one and are dependent on one as a colony. And they have the might, and they are determined to impose that might and their will upon a small, politically weak country, such as Bermuda, and the other tax havens. I have not yet heard the Prime Minister of the UK stand up to defend our interests here. In fact, her government abandone d us on the issue of beneficial ownership and the public registry, if you will recall. Mr. Speaker, I would just say this in closing. I do share the confidence in Bermudians.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberAnd the Government.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongI share deep confidence in the Government. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongI am emboldened by the spirit of bipartisanship around this issue. But let’s be under no illusion. This will be a major challenge to us and it is not over. Let us not be fooled into thinking that if we agree or acquiesce to this, as we will do, because …
I am emboldened by the spirit of bipartisanship around this issue. But let’s be under no illusion. This will be a major challenge to us and it is not over. Let us not be fooled into thinking that if we agree or acquiesce to this, as we will do, because they have all the leverage and we have little or none, that this will be it. As th e Member Leah Scott has stated, We have seen this bar continually rising. And it goes even back over the last five years. Go back to when we were the Government in the 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 period. Every time the House sat we were passing two or three TIE As, or statements were being read about the tax treaties that we had entered into with respective countries around the world. Over the last year and a half, Mr. Speaker, you would have thought we were the government of FATCA, in terms of passing compliance legislation. How many Bills did we pass along those lines, post July 2017? They were extraordinary. So much so that some of our grassroots supporters . . . I can u nderstand them wondering, like, Well, hey, is that what we elected them for? Not understanding how i mportant this was to Bermuda’s economy. But yet, the bar continues to be placed higher. So, Mr. Speaker, I just want to say this here. If the world is changing, as I contend it is, not only do we need to ensure that we are going to be able to make the necessary moves to ensure that Bermuda’s economy can maintain its global competitiveness, but we also need to take another cue, and continue in a bipartisan fashion to make the type of changes that are going to improve measurably the lives of Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda. We have to be transformative, not only in terms of this issue, but on the social issues as well, to bring all of our people along with us. I am confident that we can do that.
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerAre you looking for your final page as well? [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Minister, you started something today.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongSo I will just close with this, Mr. Speaker. I think so far it has been an issue that I hope will resonate publicly. Again, it asks of us some very deep and profound questions about who we are as a country and what t ype of country do you …
So I will just close with this, Mr. Speaker. I think so far it has been an issue that I hope will resonate publicly. Again, it asks of us some very deep and profound questions about who we are as a country and what t ype of country do you want to be. I have heard expressions of the issue of using the term “sovereignty” bei ng bantered about in this context. So, I look forward, frankly, as we move forward, of having this very robust and profoundly nec-essary conversation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member w ish to speak? We recognise Honourable Member from constituency 10.
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Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: But, Member, before you take your m icrophone, I would just like to acknowledge in the Gallery Senator Kempe from the other Chamber. Welcome.
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[Economic Substance Act 2018, Second Reading, debate continuing]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMember. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak on this most important Economic Substance Act 2018 for two main reasons. One reason is to signify very clearly our support for the Government’s intentions here. And second, just to add a little bit …
Member.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak on this most important Economic Substance Act 2018 for two main reasons. One reason is to signify very clearly our support for the Government’s intentions here. And second, just to add a little bit of weight of emphasis t o the challenges we face as a community. As a former Premier who spent a great deal of time working on these issues with the Minister of F inance (and I think the Opposition Leader, who is going to speak after me, can attest to it in his time as Premier), and in reply to the Honourable Member from constituency 21 who just spoke, these issues which are not going to go away any time soon, or I certainly do not see in the near future where they are going away, are the issues —substantive, very strong i ssues —that deeply impact our community. And at the same time many in our community do not realise the breadth and the depth of the impact that they could have. These are the issues that take away much of the focus of any Government in dealing with the Ber-muda cent ric issues, Mr. Speaker. So, to the Honourable Member from constituency 21 who just spoke, I sympathise with those concerns. These issues come up from time to time, they take a much greater deal of time than you would imagine, and they just seem to never go away. And so, you know, as we sit here and debate this Bill, as the Finance Minister who is piloting this legislation on the floor of the House . . . and it is pro bably the one time the Finance Minister can feel comfortable in the chair. Not with the leg islation that we are dealing with, but that the Finance Minister will have the support of every Member of this House and does not have to worry about answering those “tricky” back and forth questions. He can sit here and pilot this very important Bill through this House, And as he so adequately said (in my words, probably not his exact words), This is an attack on the core of our business that we have in Bermuda. These issues will continue on. We recently have looked at the assessment by CFATF, and there h as been mention made by the Honourable Premier about the US tax reform. Throughout our history we have been faced with bars that have been put in front of us and we have been told that we have to jump over them. And throughout our history those bars continue to rise while we talk about the subject. And this issue is no different. And once this issue is put to bed, when the legislation is passed, the community and the business community will have to deal with the very difficult task of adhering to the legisl ation, complying to the legislation, and at the same time trying to protect what we have built through time. And, Mr. Speaker, it is easy for us to come up here today and stand hand- in-hand on both sides of the floor to pass this legislation. And I want to take this opportunity to thank all of those who worked so hard behind the scenes to make it happen. We see some of them here in Chambers today. I know what it is like. The deadlines change; the facts that you are dealing with change. Then all of a sudden you are given a deadline and before you go out of the room, it is all of a sudden, Wait a second. Come back. We have got a new deadline. So I want to thank every single person who worked on this, because without your hard days and nights, your advice, yo ur guidance, you staying calm and you staying patient, we would not be here today to be able to try to put Bermuda on a firmer foundation. So all of us . . . some of us know the names and the faces and the capability and the work [they] do. All of us need to recognise that the process is di fficult but the people that we have working with us have made this process easier. So I thank them. But back to my original point. I find it interes ting that in the short time that I have been in this place, in speaking t o the history of Bermuda, how that bar has always changed. And every challenge that we have, and now with this Economic Substance Bill, it is a severe challenge; but there are always opportunities and there is always hope for us. And while at this point th e legislation is not passed, the community is probably not aware of what we face, but every time we face one of these challenges we pass legislation that is the best that we can do. It has an impact on what we do as a community. And I remember one of the best lines I ever heard when my honourable colleague was Premier . I think it was one of the first trips the Honourable Member went overseas to Gibraltar, when he was debating an issue such as this, somewhat exasperated. And the Premier at the time said, Well, what do you want us do? Keep fishing and farming? And that stopped the conversation for a brief moment, because it made those asking the question think about, Well, wait a second. It is a good point here. And I say that to say this, Mr. Speaker , in my time . . . and I know the Premier faces a difficult task, and the current Finance Minister faces a difficult task. What we need to continue to do is to talk about who we are, and why we do what we are doing. We have
Bermuda House of Assembly to stand up. We have to stand tall. We have to say who we are, why we do what we do, and defend our position against every critic. Because let’s face it, Mr. Speaker, every country needs tax. Every country which is raising money wants more tax. They never get enough tax. And the easiest way t o get more tax is, if you cannot get it from within your own system, you have to tax somebody else.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And as somebody prev iously said before me, Well, you know, the big guys are the bullies and they come after the small guys. That is not going to change. Bermuda is never going to be a big player. We are always going to punch …
Yes.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And as somebody prev iously said before me, Well, you know, the big guys are the bullies and they come after the small guys. That is not going to change. Bermuda is never going to be a big player. We are always going to punch above our weight, Mr. Speaker. But we have to make sure that we stand tall and defend our jurisdiction, because just as they have come after us on this, there will be other ways to come after us. We are blessed. We have created opportun ities throughout the history of Bermuda. In my time I can remember when Bermuda went from being a tourism minnow , to one of the world players in tourism. And then we went into international business in the 1980s, and we continue to be strong there. We have to continue to fight that with all the energy we have. And we will always be at that competitive di sadvantage whic h colleagues have talked about today. That is because we are small. Our resources are not unlimited and there are more big guys wanting to come after us then we can fight at one time. But with the support of the staff, some of them we see in Chambers today , and with the wisdom that we have, when as parliamentarians we work together, we can fight back, we can push back. We can maintain what is appropriate for us to maintain. I have always been proud to fight and stand up for what Bermuda is. And when they ta lk about how we tax people, we need to never forget, Mr. Speaker, and colleagues and the people of Bermuda, how we decide to tax our people is up to this Parli ament of Bermuda. It is not somebody from the EU to tell us what to do.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: At times we have to jump. But when we jump we need to make a lot of noise. And we need to make sense when we are making that noise. And I know the Premier and his colleagues have done it, just like we did …
Yes.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: At times we have to jump. But when we jump we need to make a lot of noise. And we need to make sense when we are making that noise. And I know the Premier and his colleagues have done it, just like we did it. We need to defend what we do, and we always need to stand up for our reputation. Yes, we can fight. We can squabble. We can bicker. We can argue in this House. But one thing we have never done as Bermudians is bicker about attacking when we have been attac ked from overseas.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCorrect. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And today is one of those things. We need to defend who we are and why we do what we do, Mr. Speaker.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberThat is correct. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And so while we make these changes today —which we have to do . . . because I have heard people say to me, Well, maybe it’s time we just took this blacklist thing and see what happens after that. My honourable colleague, …
That is correct.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And so while we make these changes today —which we have to do . . . because I have heard people say to me, Well, maybe it’s time we just took this blacklist thing and see what happens after that. My honourable colleague, Leah Scott, said, That approach will not work.
The Speake r: Yes.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And she is right.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberGot to jump through the hoops. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: We do not have to jump through hoop. We are going to go where we need to go, and we are going to tell them why we need to go there.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCorrect. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And we are going to push back on this. And it is interesting, the Honourable Member from constituency 21 talked about Europe and the challenges in Europe. I sat over the weekend, as we prepared for this debate, and listened to the challen ges that …
Correct. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And we are going to push back on this. And it is interesting, the Honourable Member from constituency 21 talked about Europe and the challenges in Europe. I sat over the weekend, as we prepared for this debate, and listened to the challen ges that are going on with some of the big players in Europe. And at the same time I looked at videos that came out about some of the EU members going to meetings and how they treat people, and how they act toward people, and yet at the same time, they want to come and legislate through us. Well, here we are t oday. One side and the other side standing hand- inhand and saying, You are not going to push us around.
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Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: We are going to work with you. You need to listen to us. And we are an equal partner in everything. Now, Mr. Speaker, one of the things that is i nteresting, and maybe it is just because I broke the scale at 60 (60 years old), life seems to get harder.
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It never gets easier. And I know how men and women, Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda, feel about all of this. They do not know the impact yet, but they hear us as leaders of the community talking about it. And there is some apprehension. This j ust makes life harder for us. It makes life harder because it trickles down. It will trickle down into cost of living changes because there has got to be some impact in this that just goes through with all the changes the businesses need to make to keep up. But they need to be assured that the people who were elected to this legislature clearly understand the challenge they have and we are going to fight for them. And that is one of the things that I am proud of as a Bermudian. We can bicker all we want as politicians, but at the end of the day we have stood up to hurricanes, to storms, to adversity, to people pushing back, to presidents of the United States (and we love the United States of America), through tax reform, to assessments, to legislation we have to do. But we will stand as one and the people of Bermuda need to know that we are standing as one today as we push back to this. So with apprehension, we move forward. I am proud to be here to support the Government. It is not often that people recognise I will support the Gover nment on the issues that are important. But Bermuda has moved from fishing and farming. We will continue to play on the world stage. We will continue to protect what we have, and we will continue to show people that we are a blu e-chip jurisdiction that has nothing to hide. We are open. We are transparent, and this is the best place to be. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. I recognise . . . Junior Minister, are you rising to speak? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI recognise the Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was not going to speak, but I am just going to speak for about two or three minutes on this. Mr. Speaker, there is a saying, We don’t grow when things are easy; we grow when …
I recognise the Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was not going to speak, but I am just going to speak for about two or three minutes on this. Mr. Speaker, there is a saying, We don’t grow when things are easy; we grow when we face challenges. And Mr. Speaker, there is no doubt that Bermuda over the years has faced many challenges. It was only about two years ago when the Trump tax , the corporate tax , was being reduced and there was great concern in our community as far as what was going to happen. Many meetings took place around the Island between companies, and of course, with the Government on what the impact of this would be, if the taxes are being reduced. I think the corporate [U.S.] tax was about 20 per cent. Well, Mr. Speaker, from what I understand even with the decrease in [U.S.] taxes, we have had more incorporations this year in the insurance field than we have ever had before. In other words, the challenges that we faced sometimes worked out to be very positive. I am glad, Mr. Speaker, again, I thank the Minister, although he has only been there for a short time, we worked very closely with the team. And I know the Premier has already identified the entities, but I would like to identify particular ind ividuals by name that over the last year I have diligently worked with to ensure that we are kept informed and working in behalf of the people of Bermuda. Lorraine Welch is from the Chambers. I asked her just now if she got any sleep last night , because I know that she was working very hard over the weekend to ensure that the drafting took place—
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Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yvette Pierre, from the BMA; Maxine Binns from Bermuda Development Unit; our own Wayne Brown, who I have worked very closely with for the last year and a half, the Assistant Financial Secretary. He is always on the phone. So if you see the cost for our telephone bill going up and tra vel—
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Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: —it is because Wayne has been working hard to ensure and keeping in front of individuals. So I do not expect anybody to complain when they see the traveling, because the Premier has been doing a lot of traveling to ensure that we get our message out there. Phil Perinchief, who has been on board for a couple of weeks as an advisor ; Pam Burrows, of F inance; of course, the great Jeremy Cox, of the BMA, the CEO ; Kimberley Durrant, who is pr obably sitting there in our London Office listening to us ; and, of course, Lydia Dickens. Mr. Speaker, we owe a great debt to these individuals, and there were probably more that were involved who worked, as I said, around the clock. I know we had to make some changes last week to ensure that we complied. And is it all over? No. Probably in the next couple months, year or whatever it is, they will come back again and say to make a few more changes. But like I said before, at the beginning, we grow when we face these challenges. Mr. Speaker, I am optimistic. I am very opt imistic that, despite these expectations by the EU, we can benefit. Now why do I say that? Because it talks about that you have to have substance on the ground. And I want Bermudians to understand . . . and that substance means they want people. They want to show that [these people] are actually working here in Bermuda.
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, we estimate that the number of companies that are affected by this is roughly 11,000, give a few here and th ere, companies. We only have 15,000 companies on our register. So you are talking about a significant number of companies. Mr. Speak-er, just imagine that if half of those companies were to put boots on the ground, what impact it would have on our economy. First of all, our GDP will rise significan tly. Goods and services, renting of accommodations, those are the types of accommodations, Mr. Speaker, which could make an impact. Even if there was, if I dare to say, just 500, but 5 or 10 people on the ground, w ill have a great impact on Bermuda. So, Mr. Speaker, I am optimistic because, you know, we are not in this boat alone. The Cayman I slands, Jersey, G ibraltar . . . you cannot run; you cannot hide. So it is not about saying . . . We are not going to do it here in Bermuda, we are going to go off to Timbuktu.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberMauritius. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, we are all in this boat together. And now that the EU . . . and I u nderstand that in the next six months to a year that the OECD will be taking control of this particular mov ement going forward.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes. Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, we estimate that these companies spend roughly about $134 mi llion in Bermuda right now, and are affecting our GDP roughly about $209 million. Mr. Speaker, as I said before, we face these challenges together. And I am so glad that the …
Yes. Yes.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, we estimate that these companies spend roughly about $134 mi llion in Bermuda right now, and are affecting our GDP roughly about $209 million. Mr. Speaker, as I said before, we face these challenges together. And I am so glad that the Opposition . . . we have had a few meetings with them to expose them to the Bill. And we are very happy that we are working together on this particular iss ue. Because if we do not, we all will fail t ogether. Mr. Speaker, those are the only few remarks I have to say. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Leader of the Opposit ion. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know that we have gone beyond the agreed allotment of speakers. This will be …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Leader of the Opposit ion. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know that we have gone beyond the agreed allotment of speakers. This will be it for us. I want to echo the sentiments of thanks to the technical team. Having spent many trips with Wayne Brown, we certainly are aware of the challenges in this Opposition that you have already heard, when we were Government, of the complexity and the cha llenges that we have had as an Island, as well as our technical team in having to manoeuvre through the many, many, many, many goalposts that have shif ted—sometimes change into a completely different game. But I want to set the stage for the few m oments that I speak. In today’s Royal Gazette, page 16, Anthony Mancini kind of sets, really, where we are. He says, from KPMG . . . sorry. Anthony Mancini, a tax partner with KPMG, Channel Islands [Limited.], said this, “So far the process has been an overall failure because the process has been unfair or inconsistent.” And I think that this really sets the stage for Bermuda, that this has been unfair and inconsistent. And why do I say that? I can recall, and my honour able colleague, Michael Dunkley, spoke briefly to some of what was said. While I was away, we were at BBC doing an i nterview and we, quite frankly, were set up by BBC. They brought into the interview room with me a representative from an NGO, who continued to berate the islands, Bermuda, and the likes for the pro wess that it had in thinking of a regime, and in thinking of a product, and thinking of a methodology, a bus iness plan, a model that surpassed theirs. I can recall very vividly this preppy -looking guy coming in. I was expecting maybe someone more senior. But he came in as an economist and an accountant as well, to speak to the issues that because of us, people in his country were suffering.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHmmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And I sat and I patiently listened, as I usually do. And, after he got going, I decided that enough was enough. I handed him a spanking about what it is that we do in Bermuda, and that is to ensure that when countries , …
Hmmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And I sat and I patiently listened, as I usually do. And, after he got going, I decided that enough was enough. I handed him a spanking about what it is that we do in Bermuda, and that is to ensure that when countries , like where he comes from, have a catastr ophe it is Bermuda that steps in to ensure that they can be put back to as normal . . . working in normalcy as possible. He had not a clue. And I realised that as I continued to berate him, as the Honourable Member Michael [Dunkley] said, I went on, I see. This has got to be probably one of the most prejudicial statements a man has ever made to a country to say, ‘Oh, well, you need to go back fishing.’
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHmmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And it was on. And while I was in that room having a go at this gentleman who was part of an NGO, and I quite frankly told him that the financing that he is getting for his NGO, probably 99 per cent sure, I …
Hmmm.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And it was on. And while I was in that room having a go at this gentleman who was part of an NGO, and I quite frankly told him that the financing that he is getting for his NGO, probably 99 per cent sure, I am guaranteed, that the funding that he was getting was coming someone who has invested in Bermuda. And therein I realised that most people out there, really, just did not understand who we are and what it is that we do.
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Bermuda House of Assembly The S peaker: They never do.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And within a few months we were blacklisted by the French and I realised, Oh, my goodness. They also hadn’t really seen someone represented from Bermuda on their doorsteps. So Lord knows what they were think ing [about] who we were or . . . it became quite amusing after a while, that they just did not have a clue about Bermuda and what it is that we do. So Mancini continues on in this article, Mr. Speaker, to say “When we have tax havens within the EU, and t hey are not on the list, it makes it hard to go after others outside the EU.” He continues on further to say, “We have a situation where the United States does not meet the transparency criteria, but the EU member states have decided to ignore that. This goes to show that the process is political.” And I think this article does a fine job at pos itioning us. When we became Government the real issue at that time was this public register, or beneficial ownership. And I can recall with clarity that as we sat there with the UK MPs in a room, you know, all the fancies are there, and our former Minister, Bob Ric hards, got up and says, Well, you do it first.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And the room went silent. You do it first!
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Bermuda has been able to, and has had a list for Lord knows how long. The G20 countries . . . they could not tell you. They could tell you who owns what. But yet they want us to jump through hoops, per se, and …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Bermuda has been able to, and has had a list for Lord knows how long. The G20 countries . . . they could not tell you. They could tell you who owns what. But yet they want us to jump through hoops, per se, and then we tol d them, Well, we are already there. And the room went quiet. And so we continue now after that debacle, oh, now, the goalposts shift again and here we are at this time where we are having to race, push through, if you will . I do not envy the position that the technical team has been in. As a Government, it is what it is. We were Government and so we understand that part, but for the technical team to understand these com-plexities and then be able to relay it so that we as government officials, our position, understand it, I know that it has been taxing for them. As we continued on, Mr. Speaker, while Bob and I were away on this particular trip, we went to Sky News and it was evident even from the media that they did not understand this whole idea of these new regulations coming into place, and all they were doing was just casting stones. Again, we went on Sky News and put the young lady, just as lovely as she was si tting there, in her place because she did not understand what she was talking about. And immediately you could see the lightbulb go off, Oh, I am out of my depth. So what did I learn from that? This: That we, as a jurisdiction , have to get out and to sell Bermuda, regardless, even if we do not feel like we want to talk to this person or that person, it is incumbent on us that the world understands exactly what it is that we do. If we do not do this, the assumptions will be made. And so as a Government, when we were Government, and now we see with this Government, these assumptions continue to persi st and we have to continue to do what is best in the interest of this Island. I am a bit tentative, and I am concerned, you know, the only two roads here are, well, we go on the blacklist, or we comply. The question is, and the unknown is, What is that going to cost us? So, not only do we need to ensure that the world understands what it is that we do, one of the biggest challenges that we have in Bermuda is the fact that Bermudians do not even understand what it is that we do.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: They do not understand the main contributor to our GDP and the work that it does. What they do understand is that it has affor ded us a wonderful life style. But most of us really do not understand how all of this impacts us …
Mm-hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: They do not understand the main contributor to our GDP and the work that it does. What they do understand is that it has affor ded us a wonderful life style. But most of us really do not understand how all of this impacts us , which leads me to the fact that a whole lot of talk has been around immigration . I believe, and I am hoping that from this Government they are already looking at what is necessary with this unknown factor of how this is going to affect us. What are we doing about e nsuring (and I sure that that will happen as we go along) . . . about putting something together, packages, that are enticing to ensure that these companies that are here, stay here? Bermuda, someone is trying to take your lunch. And we need to stand up and say that this is not going to happen. We have heard how this has crossed the aisle. We have worked together on this and we have seen this particular subject where we have both engag ed, as parties, in working together to ensure the best for Bermuda.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberAbsolutely! Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: There was a saying by a former US President, he said, Now that there is no money, it ’s now time to think.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: It’s time to think. The EU is slipping under that mattress ; there is no money, so it is time to think. And the only thing they could come up with is, Oh, go after them byes down in Bermuda. We, likewise , are in …
Hmm. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: It’s time to think. The EU is slipping under that mattress ; there is no money, so it is time to think. And the only thing they could come up with is, Oh, go after them byes down in Bermuda. We, likewise , are in a position
Bermuda House of Assembly where we need t o understand, now that there is no money, it ’s time for us to think about what it is that we need to be doing. And so we have opportunity, I b elieve, moving forward that will come out of this, but those opportunities . . . we will only be able to take advantage of those opportunities if we take time in this Honourable House to think about what it is that we need to be doing and the next moves that we need to make. So I am encouraging the Ministry to make known and to table in this House the economic impact assessment report that was done by PwC. If you are not happy with when it was done, at that time, let’s get another one done so that we can sit down and educate one another and educate this Island on the mind-set that we need to have in order to get throug h this. Because I can guarantee you that there is a lot of con-fusion out there about what it is that we are doing here in this House. The Premier also spoke . . . and I will move to close because I know we want to get this stuff done. The Premier spoke about cost. And also . . . and I thought that maybe this might happen. It has not happened. But I will say this to the Minister, you know, we need a financial memorandum outlining the cost to Bermuda concerning this Act. We would like see it, and so I woul d encourage the Minister and the team to get on with that. It is vitally important that, again, we all understand the impact on Bermuda as we move forward. I am happy to hear all of the contributions t oday. And, again, I want to say thank you to everyone as we move through this difficult time. To ease the pain as best as possible, let’s get the messaging out there abroad. Let’s get our own people understanding what it is that we do and the nature of our business here so that we can collectively put our minds toget her as to the solutions and the impact. Undoubtedly, we are going to feel the impact . But how do we now gain back some of that ground that may be lost because of something like this ? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Mem ber. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? Minister, would you like to take the microphone? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, as we move to conclude the debate on this Bill, just let me say a few words. I would first like …
Thank you, Honourable Mem ber. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? Minister, would you like to take the microphone?
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, as we move to conclude the debate on this Bill, just let me say a few words. I would first like to echo the sentiments of the Premier and the Opposition Leader, a number of my colleagues on this side, and of course, those opposite, in their support , and thank them for their support for this Bill. I understand that many of us are hol ding our noses as we say, yes. But Bermuda has been resilient, and we have always managed to find a way. My children dislike when I use this phrase with them, but I think it is probably a moment that we also need to collectively take in this House. I often use the phrase, Now what ? And a “now what?” for us is that we are going to get up and keep moving forward; we are going to adapt. We are going to be innovative. We are going to figure this thing out and we are going to do what we have always done, persevere. I would like to thank the team who has worked on this for months, much longer than I have been in situ as Minister. The technical folks have been extraordinary. Over the course of the last four or five days they have worked like crazy, and they need to be recognised for that. I would also like to recognise i ndustry: ABIR; ABIC; the IAC; all of those folks out there who have been behind the scenes working to kind of help us try to figure out how we can best crack the code on this initiative from the EU. And I would also like to thank my colleagues for their unflinching support as we have tried to get this thing done. With that, Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be committed.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Deputy. House in Committee at 12:09 pm [Hon. D errick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL ECONOMIC SUBSTANCE ACT 2018
The ChairmanChairmanHonourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Economic Substance Act 2018 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The purpose of this Bill is to enhance prov isions relating to …
Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Economic Substance Act 2018 . Minister, you have the floor.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The purpose of this Bill is to enhance prov isions relating to economic substance for registered entities and connected matters. The Bill also seeks to amend the Investment Funds Act 2006 and the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 16 be moved.
The ChairmanChairmanRepeat that, sir. Clauses 1 through . . .? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: [Clause] 16.
The ChairmanChairmanContinue. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Okay. Clause 1 provides a title for this Bill. Clause 2 provides definitions for the interpr etation of this Bill. 516 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Clause 3 imposes an obligation on an entity that is engaged in a relevant …
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Bermuda House of Assembly Clause 3 imposes an obligation on an entity that is engaged in a relevant activity to maintain a substantial economic presence in Bermuda and, in that regard, comply with economic substance r equirements [ESR] set forth in subsection (2). Clause 4 provides that the ESR regime applies to any registered entity that is engaged in a rel evant activity (as that term is defined in section 2). Clause 5 sets forth the filing requirements under the ESR regime. An economic substance declar ation form will be prescribed for purposes of this r egime. Clause 6 makes provision for the competent authority for Bermuda, pursuant to the International Cooperation (Tax Information Exchange Agreements) Act 2005, to exchange ESR information with any EU member state. Regulations will be made t o prescribe matters relating to such exchange of information. Clause 7 requires that confidentiality be pr eserved. This clause applies certain provisions of the Registrar of Companies (Compliance Measures) Act 2017 which prescribe criminal penalties for a breach of confidentiality. Clause 7 specifies limited circumstances where the disclosure of information is permi tted. Clause 8 applies the provisions in the Companies Act 1981 to provide for immunity from suit for any officer, employee or agent of the Regi strar and others acting on his behalf provided such persons act in good faith in the performance of their duties. Clause 9 provides for matters relating to the Public Access to Information Act 2010. Clause 10 provides for matters relating to the Personal Information Protection Act 2016. Clause 11 provides for the making of Regul ations. Such regulations will be subject to the negative resolution procedure. Clause 12 provides for guidance to be issued by the Minister in relation to the application of this Bi ll and regulations made under the Bill. This clause also allows the Registrar to publish such guidance in such manner as he thinks fit. Clause 13 allows the Registrar to exercise the powers conferred on him by the Registrar of Companies (Compliance Measure s) Act 2017 where an entity fails to comply with the provisions of this Act, or regulations made in relation to this Act. Clause 14 provides for offences related to the provision of false information. Clause 15 amends the penalty provisions set forth in the Registrar of Companies (Compliance Measures) Act 2017 in respect of the sanctions which will be applied where an entity is determined to have failed to comply with the economic substance r equirements. This clause provides for the Registrar to apply for a Court order which may ultimately result in the exercise of any existing power to strike- off the entity. Clause 16 provides for transitional matters. The ESR regime will be immediately applicable to new entities registered after this Act comes into operation. The operative date for the imposition of ESR is antic ipated to be 1 January 2019, with a six -month trans itional period for existing entities.
The ChairmanChairmanAny Members want to speak to the specifics of clauses 1 through 16? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor, Honourable Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as we mentioned when we were debating in the whole, the …
Any Members want to speak to the specifics of clauses 1 through 16? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor, Honourable Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as we mentioned when we were debating in the whole, the technical officers have actually gone through the process and gone through on a clause- by-clause basis, so there would be very limited questions that I will have. And I believe my co lleagues may also have the odd question. But my first question is with respect to page 5, clause 6(2)(d) with respec t to beneficial owner. The question is, How will the existing approach toward provision of information be changed as a result of this? Or will we stay with what we presently do? But more importantly, is this the thin edge of the wedge with respect to the demands that have been put upon us for having a public register of beneficial interest?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Member, could you please repeat the clause which you were referencing? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: May I, Mr. Chairman?
The ChairmanChairmanCertainly. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That is clause 6(2)(d), beneficial ownership.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, you have the floor. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I will wait for the technical officers, Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanAny further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Trevor Moniz. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question is with respect to clause 2, the definition section with respect to “relevant activity.” There is a list from (a) to (j) of relevant activities, and those …
Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Trevor Moniz.
Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question is with respect to clause 2, the definition section with respect to “relevant activity.” There is a list from (a) to (j) of relevant activities, and those include banking and insurance.
Bermuda House of Assembly I have a concern about the captive insurance companies. On the face of it they would be included. There has been some suggestion that they will be exempted. In fact, there was an article in the Royal G azette on December 7th, and where it quoted a Mr. Tom McMahon from Citadel [Management Bermuda Ltd.]. He was saying that they are going to be deemed to be compliant as they meet the requirements of the Insurance Act. I know there have been some different opi nions going back and forth as to whether or not they would be compliant with the economic substance r equirement, if they are included under “relevant activ ity.” So I am just ask ing the Minister, what is the intention with respect to those industries and captive insurance, in particular?
The ChairmanChairmanThe Chair recognises the Honourable Member Leah Scott.
Ms. Leah K. ScottThank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a couple of questions. One, I now know that local companies are now in scope.
The ChairmanChairmanWhat clause are you speaking to?
Ms. Leah K. ScottOh, sorry. I am speaking to clause 2, Interpretation, and the definition of “local company.” So I know that local companies are now in scope in terms of economic substance. So, . . . I don’t know if the question is relevant, but I would like to know whether or …
Oh, sorry. I am speaking to clause 2, Interpretation, and the definition of “local company.” So I know that local companies are now in scope in terms of economic substance. So, . . . I don’t know if the question is relevant, but I would like to know whether or not there are intentions to educate Mr. and Mrs. Smith about their shop and what they need to do and how they need to comply with this le gislation . The other question that I have is on page 4, [clause] 5(2)(b). I would like to know what the defin ition is of “high risk IP activity .”
Ms. Leah K. ScottAnd then in terms of, again, [clause] 5, generally, if there are requests that are made for this information, what is the process for determining if it is going to be disseminated and to whom ? Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank s, Mr. Chairman. With respect to the first question regarding beneficial ownership, the Registrar of Companies a lready collects beneficial ownership information in compliance with the Companies Act 1981. So that is already captured. With respect to the Honourable Member Moniz’s question about captive …
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Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank s, Mr. Chairman. With respect to the first question regarding beneficial ownership, the Registrar of Companies a lready collects beneficial ownership information in compliance with the Companies Act 1981. So that is already captured. With respect to the Honourable Member Moniz’s question about captive insurers, regulations will make clear that captive insurers are covered by the Insurance Act 1971. So inasmuch as there is any ambiguity or uncertainty, we will make a definitive stat ement that they are covered.
[Inaudible interjec tions] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Yes. Well, they do have . . . they have substance.
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The ChairmanChairmanDo not leave me out, Minister. Don’t leave me out. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Sorry, Mr. Chairman. The captives will have economic substance. The question by Honourable Member Scott with respect to local companies, local companies are only covered by this legislation inasmuch as they are engaged in a relevant …
Do not leave me out, Minister. Don’t leave me out. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Sorry, Mr. Chairman. The captives will have economic substance. The question by Honourable Member Scott with respect to local companies, local companies are only covered by this legislation inasmuch as they are engaged in a relevant activity. And so, we will, inasmuch as folks need help understanding how this is applicable to them, be able to provide advice through the Ministry. We have some work around educating people on the impact to them individually, and so we will have to publish some guidance notes of some sort, whatever is appropriate to help people navigate their way through this.
The ChairmanChairmanAny further questions? The Chair recognises the Honourable Pat Gordon- Pamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Minister did not really answer the question that I needed. We know that the Registrar collects information in terms of beneficial ownership, that is very clear …
Any further questions? The Chair recognises the Honourable Pat Gordon- Pamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Minister did not really answer the question that I needed. We know that the Registrar collects information in terms of beneficial ownership, that is very clear in subsection (2) where it says, “Where the competent authority receives information from the Registrar under subsection (1) relat-ing to an entity . . . .” So we know the Registrar gets the information.
The ChairmanChairmanHmm m. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The question was, is there any indication that this beneficial ownership is the thin edge of the wedge [which will] lead to a di sclosure of a public register for beneficial ownership? That is the concern. We have pushed back from it, historically, …
Hmm m. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The question was, is there any indication that this beneficial ownership is the thin edge of the wedge [which will] lead to a di sclosure of a public register for beneficial ownership? That is the concern. We have pushed back from it, historically, and I just wondered if there has been any indication based on the communication and the co nsultations whether this is likely to be mor e intensely?
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I am . . . 518 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Leah Scott, Deputy Opposition Leader.
Ms. Leah K. ScottThank you, Mr. Chairman. Just going back to my question about the definition of “high risk IP activity ,” if I could get an expl anation of that. And then again, on page 4, [clause] 5, in terms of the information that is contained in the declaration, who can have …
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: If I can start, Mr. Chai rman, with a response to the Honourable Member Gordon- Pamplin’s question. There has been no indication, other than the G20 Global Beneficial Ownership Register coming into play. But we have said, I think successive Governments have said that we …
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Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: If I can start, Mr. Chai rman, with a response to the Honourable Member Gordon- Pamplin’s question. There has been no indication, other than the G20 Global Beneficial Ownership Register coming into play. But we have said, I think successive Governments have said that we are not going to show our register unless everyone meets the same standard. And I think I will echo that sentiment. I am sure you will agree with that, as well. Honourab le Member Scott asked a question about the definition of high risk companies. I think it refers to Internet giants, like Google, et cetera. And then there was one other question and the response is . . .
The ChairmanChairmanAny further speakers? The Chair recognises Ms. Gordon- Pamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to make sure that I am fully understanding of the [answer] in respect of captives falling under the insurance . . . I think the r esponse …
Any further speakers? The Chair recognises Ms. Gordon- Pamplin.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to make sure that I am fully understanding of the [answer] in respect of captives falling under the insurance . . . I think the r esponse was that insurance is caught by the Insurance Act for substance. So we understand that. But with respect to captives, that would be caught in the regulation, the carve- out. And the regulations were not tabled today with the Act, so if the Minister could j ust maybe advise us when the regs are going to come so that we can have access to those, so we can see exactly what is intended.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thanks, Mr. Chairman. I am loath to commit to a date firm, Honour able Member. I know that this team has been burning the candle at all ends for the last several days. I know that the regulations are on the queue of work that …
Minister.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thanks, Mr. Chairman. I am loath to commit to a date firm, Honour able Member. I know that this team has been burning the candle at all ends for the last several days. I know that the regulations are on the queue of work that needs to be done. I suspect we have a draft. The draft is being reviewed and will be revised over the coming days. We have to have this legislation in place before the end of the year. And my anticipation is that we will probably have something before the end of the week. The Chairman: Okay.
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: They are negative resol ution.
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister, will you move clauses 1 through 16? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I will, Mr. Chairman, but before I do that, I would like to answer the question from Member Scott with respect to the declaration forms. Information on those forms …
Mm-hmm. Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister, will you move clauses 1 through 16?
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I will, Mr. Chairman, but before I do that, I would like to answer the question from Member Scott with respect to the declaration forms. Information on those forms is private and confidential, and it will be protected from PATI. Okay?
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I move that clauses 1 through 16 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that clauses 1 through 16 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 16 passed.]
The ChairmanChairmanContinue, Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move clause 17.
The ChairmanChairmanContinue. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, from clause 17 on I will continue to read from the [Explanatory] Memorandum at the back of the Bill, but will add my detailed comments to each of those claus es which I have received from the Bermuda Monetary Authority. Clause 17 amends …
Continue.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, from clause 17 on I will continue to read from the [Explanatory] Memorandum at the back of the Bill, but will add my detailed comments to each of those claus es which I have received from the Bermuda Monetary Authority. Clause 17 amends the Investment Funds Act 2006 in a number of respects in relation to exempted and excluded funds. Clause 17, Amendment of Investment Funds Act 2006, provides for enhanced regu latory requir ements for exempted and excluded funds. These funds will be renamed “Professional and Private Funds,” respectively , collectively called “Registered Funds.” This clause contains [ 23] [subsections] as follows: [Subsection] (1) amends section 2 of the IFA [Investment Funds Act] by renaming “exempted” and “excluded” Funds. Further, the definition of “service provider” is amended to include “corporate service provider.”
Bermuda House of Assembly [Subsection] (2) amends section 5 of the IFA which prohibits a person from oper ating a fund unless it is authorised or registered. [Subsection] (3) introduces the category of “registered funds.” This [subsection] also amends section 6 of the IFA that enhances the qualification crit eria for private funds and requires that they must apply to be registered with the Bermuda Monetary Authority. Private funds will also be subject to enhanced filing requirements. [Subsection] (4) amends section 6A of the IFA to replace the term “Class A Exempt Fund” to “Profes-sional Class A Fund.” [Subsecti on] (5) amends section 6B of the IFA which removes the exemption provisions and intr oduces the requirement to apply for registration for Pr ofessional Class A Fund. [Subsection] (6) amends section 7 of the IFA to replace the term “Class B Exempt Fund” to “ Profe ssional Class B Fund.” [Subsection] (7) amends section 8 of the IFA which removes the exemption provision and introduc-es the requirement to apply for registration for Professional Class B Fund. [Subsection] (8) amends section 8A of the IFA that sets out the procedure for the registration of Pr ofessional Class B Fund. [Subsection (9)] amends section 9 of the IFA by removing the subtitle “Criteria for exemption” and replacing it with the term “Qualified Participants.” [Subsection] (10) amends section 9[A ] of the IFA by removing reference to “exempt ” funds and r eplacing them with “registered” funds.” [Subsection] (11) amends section 10 of the IFA to remove reference to “exempted” funds and r eplacing them with “registered” funds. [Subsection] (12) amends section 16 of the IFA that allows the Authority to keep a register of registered funds. [Subsection] (13) amends section 17(1) of the IFA by repealing paragraph (ba) and replacing par agraph (ba) to provide for registration fees for regi stered funds. [Subsect ion] (14) amends section 30 of the IFA to give the Authority the power to issue directions to a registered fund. [Subsection] (15) amends section 33 of the IFA to give the Authority the power to revoke or vary a direction issued to a registered fund. [Subsection] (16) amends section 36(1)(a) of the IFA to give the Authority the ability to windup a registered fund. [Subsection] (17) amends section 37 of the IFA to give the Authority the ability to make fund rules for registered funds. The matters that may r equire full rules were extended to include depositary and saf ekeeping obligations, publ ic disclosures, disclosures to the Authority, and disclosures to investors. [Subsection] (18) amends section 38 of the IFA to provide for the Authority to make fund prospectus rules for Professional Class A and Professional Class B funds. [Subsection] (19) amends sections 40(1), 55(1), 59(1), 60(a), 61(1)(a), subsections (2), (3), (3)(a), (4) and (5) of section 61, subsections (1), (2) and (3) of section 63, subsections ( 1), (4), (5) and (7)(c) of section 64 to registered funds. These amendments give the Authority the power to waive or vary fund rules in fund prospectus rules, extend the appeal provisions to registered funds , extend the A uthority’s information gathering and investigative po wers over registered funds. [Subsection] (20) amends section 64A of the IFA and gives the Authority the ability to investigate registered funds if there is a suspected contravention of the registration requirements. [Subsection] (21) amends section 65(1A) of the IFA to require the registered fund to produce documents upon written notice from the Authority. [Subsection] [(23)] amends section 69(2) of the IFA to allow disclosures for facilitating the di scharge of the function of the Authority over registered funds.
The ChairmanChairmanAny further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister, do you want to move clause 17? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move clause 17 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that clause 17 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 17 passed.] Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 18 through 21.
The ChairmanChairmanContinue. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 18 amends the Fourth Schedule to the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969 (which relates to fees under the Investment Funds Act 2006) to refer to registered funds. This clause also adds fees for private funds. This clause amends the Fourth Schedule of the Bermuda …
Continue.
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Clause 18 amends the Fourth Schedule to the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969 (which relates to fees under the Investment Funds Act 2006) to refer to registered funds. This clause also adds fees for private funds. This clause amends the Fourth Schedule of the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969 to reflect the name change from “exempted funds” to “Professional funds.” Clause 19 provides for savings related to clause 17. Clause 20 provides for transitional matters r elated to the provisions amending the Investment Funds Act 2006 that are set forth in clause 17. The 520 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly operative date for the amendments relating to funds is anticipated to be 1 January 2019, with a six -month transitional period for existing funds. Clause 21 prov ides for commencement.
The ChairmanChairmanAny speakers to these clauses? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat Gordon- Pamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, page 17, clause 18, with reference to the amendment to the BMA Act with respect to [paragraph] (b) of clause 18, by inserting the a …
Any speakers to these clauses? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat Gordon- Pamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, page 17, clause 18, with reference to the amendment to the BMA Act with respect to [paragraph] (b) of clause 18, by inserting the a ppropriate fee schedule. So there is, obviously, now an application fee for private fund at $1,250. And an annual fee for private fund of $1,250. The question is that with the application fund, is this fee really adequate? And the reason I ask is that when we think back to the fees that we did the other day, to get a letter from the BMA is going to cost you $750, to provide a letter of compliance, to say that you look ed at somebody’s balance sheet and you said, Yes, here is the letter to say that they comply. And it is going to cost you $750. Presumably this application process is not meant to be just a perfunctory exercise —$1,250 is the cost of opening the envelope. What is the cost of the actual vetting of the application itself to make sure that it is appropriate? I am not sure that $1,250 is an appropriate amount. Also, in respect of the transitional with respect to clause 20, we heard that January 1 will be for new companies, [they] will have to comply with this new regime. And June 30 would be the date by which . . . or July 1 is the date by which existing companies have to ensure compliance. What is the communication process to companies that come within an industry that are not represented by the alphabet, the ABIR the ABICs? Because there are some companies that are on the register, maybe insurance companies, but they are not part of ABIR. So what is the communication process to those companies that fall outsi de that ambit? Because we cannot assume knowledge, if they do not have direct communication.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As the Honourable Member would know, the BMA off ers guidance on terms of their fees and what they charge. This fee was pegged to be equal to Profe ssional Class B funds , as a …
Thank you. Any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As the Honourable Member would know, the BMA off ers guidance on terms of their fees and what they charge. This fee was pegged to be equal to Profe ssional Class B funds , as a starting point. Given the new requirements, the BMA will recess the regulatory efforts required for these new funds, and will rev iew appropriately. For inasmuch as they are of the view that these funds require more fees to properly admi nister, they will make a request to us and we will di scuss it in this House. With respect to the ongoing PR, we accept that there needs to be an education component to the implementation of this legislation. We commit to doing what we need to do, to advise people accordingly.
The ChairmanChairmanAny further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister, do you want to move clauses 18 through 21. Hon. Cur tis L. Dickinson: I move that clauses 18 through 21 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that clauses 18 through 21 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 18 through 21 passed.]
The ChairmanChairmanDo you want to move the preamble? Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: I move that the preamble be approved, Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? Approved. Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? Approved. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Economic Substance Act 2018 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without …
It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? Approved. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Economic Substance Act 2018 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.]
House resumed at 12:34 pm
[Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
REPORT OF COMMITTEE
ECONOMIC SUBSTANCE ACT 2018
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood afternoon, Members. Are there any objections to the Economic Substance Act 2018 being reported to the House as printed? Bermuda House of Assembly No objections. So moved. It has been repor ted to the House and accepted. Now, I believ e that brings us to a close of business …
Good afternoon, Members. Are there any objections to the Economic Substance Act 2018 being reported to the House as printed?
Bermuda House of Assembly No objections. So moved. It has been repor ted to the House and accepted. Now, I believ e that brings us to a close of business for today, but before we go there the Deputy is going take a few moments. [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, we will do third readings and then the Deputy . . . the Deputy will do his and then we will do the third readings. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to …
Yes, we will do third readings and then the Deputy . . . the Deputy will do his and then we will do the third readings.
SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that a message be sent to the Senate conve ying Christmas and New Year’s greetings.
[Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
MESSAGE TO THE SENATE
CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR’S GREETINGS
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: “To the Honourable the President and the Members of the Senate: “The Speaker and the Members of the House of Assembly desire t o extend to the President and Members of the Senate our greetings and best wishes for Christmas and the New Year.”
SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that Christmas greetings and best wishes for the New Year be conveyed to His Honour the Speaker.
[Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. MESSAG E TO THE SPEAKER CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR’S GREETINGS Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Speaker be requested to accept Christmas greetings and best wishes for the New Year from Members from the House of Assembly. SUSPENSION OF ST ANDING ORDER 21 …
Thank you.
MESSAG E TO THE SPEAKER
CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR’S GREETINGS Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Speaker be requested to accept Christmas greetings and best wishes for the New Year from Members from the House of Assembly.
SUSPENSION OF ST ANDING ORDER 21
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that Christmas greetings and best wishes for the New Year be conveyed to His Excellency the Governor, Mr. John Rankin.
[Motion carr ied: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
[Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on, Deputy. Continue on. [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] MESSAGE TO THE GOVERNOR CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR’S GREETINGS Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I move that [his] honour the Speaker, be requested to convey to His Exce llency the Governor, Mr. John Rankin hearty Chris tmas greetings and best wishes for the New …
Continue on.
[Inaudible interjections and laughter]
MESSAGE TO THE GOVERNOR
CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR’S GREETINGS
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I move that [his] honour the Speaker, be requested to convey to His Exce llency the Governor, Mr. John Rankin hearty Chris tmas greetings and best wishes for the New Year from the Speaker and the Members of the House of A ssembly .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd I am sure all Members agree with you on those sentiments, Deputy. We will now have the third reading for today’s matter. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspende d to enable me to move that the …
And I am sure all Members agree with you on those sentiments, Deputy. We will now have the third reading for today’s matter.
SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21
Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspende d to enable me to move that the Bill entitled Economic Substance Act 2018 be now the third time by its title only.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAny objections? No objections. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING ECONOMIC SUBSTANCE ACT 2018 Hon. Curtis L. Dickinson: Mr. Speaker, I move that Bill be now read a third time by its title only and passed.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIt has been read, approved, and passed. Yes. All in agreement. 522 17 December 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: The Economic Substance Act 2018 was read a third time and passed.] ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES HOUSE APPOINTMENTS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerBefore we go to that final step, as ind icated this morning, I was going to close the Ho use by naming the Oversight Committees. Just for the information of the House and the public, establishing Oversight Committees is a new process for our Standing Orders. So what is going …
Before we go to that final step, as ind icated this morning, I was going to close the Ho use by naming the Oversight Committees. Just for the information of the House and the public, establishing Oversight Committees is a new process for our Standing Orders. So what is going to happen today is that the committees will be named. And I am going to meet with the individual committees during the time of recess to walk them through the process and the roles and responsibilities that they will have. Hopefully , we get them started early in the new year , but those meetings will take place just as an initial meeting to get people up to speed with the understanding of the role of the Oversight Commi ttees. There are three Oversight Committees. Let me also say that each committee will have two Me mbers from the Senate. The Members from the Senate . . . I have been in conversation with the President of the Senate. The next time the Senate meets she will name those individuals and I will let them name them publicly in that Senate, but they will serve as part of the committees. So, the first committ ee is the Infrastructure and Transport. We have the Honourable Member Cole Simons; the Honourable Member Derrick Bur-gess; the Honourable Member Lawrence Scott; the Honourable Member Kim Swan, and the Honourable Member Tinee Furbert. On the second committ ee, which is the Education , Health , Welfare, the Honourable Member Neville Tyrrell; the Honourable Member Michael Weeks; the Honourable Member Chris Famous; the Honourable Member Leah Scott; and the Honourable Member Jeanne Atherden. And on the third comm ittee, which is the Ce ntral Policy , Security , and Economic Growth , it is the Honourable Member Ming; Honourable Member Jackson; Honourable Member Michael Scott; Honourable Member Simmons; and Honourable Member Richards. They will serve on the inaugural c ommittees that are established. Thank you, Members.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. CHRISTMAS GREETINGS Hon. E. David Burt: Seeing that there is no motion to adjourn, Mr. Speaker, I hope that you will allow me to wish on behalf of the Government of Bermuda to the people of this country a very merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year. N …
Yes.
CHRISTMAS GREETINGS
Hon. E. David Burt: Seeing that there is no motion to adjourn, Mr. Speaker, I hope that you will allow me to wish on behalf of the Government of Bermuda to the people of this country a very merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year. N o matter what faith they manage to follow at this time, I do hope that we have a nice time of family —friendship and family. And with that, Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, Mr. Premier, I am going to ask for the House’s indulgence, because my role is to sit here and try to give fair play. Being the Leader of the Go vernment has been able to give Christmas greetings, would the Leader of the Opposition like to give a Christmas …
Well, Mr. Premier, I am going to ask for the House’s indulgence, because my role is to sit here and try to give fair play. Being the Leader of the Go vernment has been able to give Christmas greetings, would the Leader of the Opposition like to give a Christmas greeting before we finally close?
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Certainly. And thank you for obliging me that opportunity. It has been an interesting session. But what I would like to say foremost is that we appreciate all efforts made in this House to bring Bermuda to a better place. Mr. Speaker, we want to thank your admi nistration for the hard work that they do to ensure that there is some semblance of staying in line while we are in the House. But as we move into a season, a time where we talk about hope, where we talk about enjoying one another as family, Bermuda is truly one family. And over this holiday season may we reflect more on the importance that we place on one another, that we move this Island to a better place. Merry Christmas everyone.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. MembersMerry Christmas.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Mr. Premier, continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. With those messages being sent from the Opposition Leader, as I said and previously indicated, I do wish that all Bermudians and all persons who are residents of this country will have a very safe, …
Thank you. Mr. Premier, continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. With those messages being sent from the Opposition Leader, as I said and previously indicated, I do wish that all Bermudians and all persons who are residents of this country will have a very safe, happy, and joyous holiday season. And with that, Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House adjourn to until Friday, February 8, 2019.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. MembersFebruary 8 th?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, February the 8 th. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: The 8th.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe 8th, yes. Members, the House does now stand adjourned. As we look at this adjournment of our Chris tmas season, I would just like to wish you all, each and every one of you and your families, a good Merry Christmas season, and remember the reason for the season, …
The 8th, yes. Members, the House does now stand adjourned. As we look at this adjournment of our Chris tmas season, I would just like to wish you all, each and every one of you and your families, a good Merry Christmas season, and remember the reason for the season, and be blessed during that season in this true Christmas spirit. I look forward to seeing you all back on February the 8th. I trust that you will enjoy your time away from here and do a good reflection on what has been accomplished during this session and the need for us to continue to conduct ourselves in a proper manner when you return. Thank you, Members. With that, we are closed until the 8th of February.
[Gavel]
[At 12:42 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday , 8 February 2019.]