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November 16, 2018

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Nov 16, 2018
Session 2018/2019
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575 speeches from 30 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Okay, so you combined the two? Good. Members, we are just going to seek your i ndulgence at the moment. The Junior Minister of F inance wants to table a report that should be associated with a Statement that is coming from the Minister of Finance. With the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTER S AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have a number of Statements this morning. I am appreciative of Ministers who have indicated they may carry theirs over; there are a couple, I believe. We will deal with that when we get to it. So, we are appreciative of that. But the first Statement this morning is …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to advise this Honourable House and the public —
The Speaker The Speaker Junior Minist er, hold off. The delay is partly my responsibility, in that we were going to carry this over, being that the Mini ster was held over. But we decided the Junior Minister can deliver the Statement and the report. So, it did not get circulated earlier; it is …
The Speaker The Speaker It is coming. It is coming now. [Pause] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Hold off. Hold off one second. Just hold off one second. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Here it is coming now.
The Speaker The Speaker What we may do is . . . the others are all circulated. So, while this is being circulated . . . I am going to let the Clerk and the Sergeant -at-Arms go ahead and circulate it. The Minister of Health, would you mind doing your Statement now , …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Junior Minister. TAX REFORM COMMISSION REPORT 2018 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, I am standing in on behalf of the Minister, the Honourable Curtis L. Dickinson, in regard to this Statement. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to advise …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. The next Statement is in the name of Minister Foggo. Minister Foggo, you have the floor. BERM UDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL ST ATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018 Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, under the Anti -Doping in Sport Act …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister, would you like to do your second Statement in reference to the Workforce? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, M r. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Go ahead. UPDATES ON THE DEPARTMENT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMES Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Mr. Speaker, I am standing here to provide this Honourable House with an update on the various initiatives being undertaken by the D epartment of Workforce Development to assist and prepare individuals for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we should only hear one voice. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Once again, Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure at this time to have the opportunity to update this Honourable House about the progress within the Department of Workforce Development . Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister Brown, would you like to put your Statement? Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE Hon. Walton Brown: Honourable Members will already know that the Bermuda Government is the I sland’s largest employer, and its workforce demographic is reflective of the wider society. That is, the wor kforce is ageing and there are skills shortages in key …
The Speaker The Speaker We now call on the Minister of Educ ation. BERMUDA COLLEGE 2017 –2018 ANNUAL REPORT Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, this morning I am pleased to rise before this Honourable House to table the 2017– 2018 Annual Report of Bermuda College …
Lt. Col. Hon. Dav id A. Burch . . . by the UK firm , Mott Mac Donald, regarding the state of Kings Wharf . Deck problems and other deficiencies were clearly identified. At that time , the cost of fixing the wharf and terminal building was estimated at more than $20 mi llion. In spite of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. You will note on the Order Paper that the Mi nister also had a second Statement, which he has agreed to carry over for the time being. So, we thank you, Minister, for that. The next Statement is in the name of the Mi nister for Tourism, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minis ter. And, similarly, on your Order Paper, there was a second Statement by the Minister, and he has agreed to have that carried over. So, I appreciate that, Minister. The last Statement this morning is that of the Minister of National Security, Minister Caines. 18 16 November …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. ROADSIDE SOBRIETY CHECKS Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to provide this Honourable House and the public with an update on roadside sobriety checks . The public will, undoubtedly, be aware of a Bermuda Police Service ongoing weekend presence at strategic locations in the central parishes. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That brings us to the conclusion of Ministerial Statements this morning. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are no reports of committees this morning. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are some nine Members who have indicated that they have questions for the Mini sters in regard to Statements this morning. And just to remind Members, this Question Period is a 60- minute period. So, the clock will start now. B ermuda House of Assembly And the first question …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. We can sort that out. I thought we did it, to be honest with you. But I will check that one.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any supplementary? No supplementary, no further question. We will move on to the next Statement. The next Statement that there is an indication of a question is for the Minister of Health. And that Member who would like to ask the question is the same Member, from constituency …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you for that question. There are 21 regulated care homes, with almost 400 residents. And actually, the Statement does refer to the fact that they have just completed the first round of inspection of all 21 of those homes. (I am just …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second question. QUESTION 2: PROTECTION OF PERSONS IN CARE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay. My second question is, Could the Minister indicate the kinds of observations that, in general, have been found from the inspections that have been carried out?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes. Thank you for that question. They do range. Fortunately, there has not been anything too significant. However, you have seen that they have had observations of, perhaps, inadequate food supply. When I say “inadequate,” I do not mean insufficient, but perhaps not …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? We will take a supplementary from the Honourable Member Jackson. Honourable Member from constituency 20, you have the floor. Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susa n E. Ja ck son Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. My question to the Minister is, Does that i nspection report include any identification or measuring 20 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly of capacity, or skills, to be able to meet the needs of, or the changing needs of, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. With respect to the homes, there are, as we can appreciate, varying levels of care that are re-quired. Some nursing facilities have skilled care. And with that, there is a quota that needs to be established with respect to how …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any supplementary? Supplementary? We will take your supplementary. (Turn your microphone on.)
Ms. Susan E. Jackson At what point, Minister, then, is a home required to provide those changes or additions to care and skill, based on their client popul ation? So, does the inspection report . . . if I am being specific, if I were to take a patient who has developed severe dementia, …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson And is the home mandat ed to provide that additional skill in order to meet those needs?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When a home registers, they indicate the level of skill that this home is. If, unfortunat ely, a person’s medical condition changes where they require skilled nursing assistance, and the home does not provide that skill, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any supplementaries or new question? New question? We will take . . . this is your third question, Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3: PROTECTION OF PERSONS IN CARE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Minister could let the House know and the public know how many complaints have been registered? As she mentioned on page 2, there were r ecent complaints of elder abuse, which …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for that question. With respect to the recent data, there have been those two c omplaints that I spoke about that were all publicised. However, not all of the reports are substantiated. So, when there …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. I have a supplementary. Could the Honourable Minister advise us how many cases that we have that are outstanding that are Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 21 Bermuda House of Assembly still in the process of investigation that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can say that all complaints are investigated to conclusion. And I will stand by to see if I can r eceive any information to confirm whether or not there are any cases that are actually still outstanding.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or . . . You are fine? Good. That brings us to a conclusion on the questions in regard to the Minister of Health. The next Statement that Members have indicated that they have questions about is that for the Minister of Sport. Minister Foggo, you have …
Mr. Ben Smith Good morning, and thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the Statement, it is discussed that there is a grant of $650,000. Is it possible for the Minister to let us know the last time this grant was assessed for ef-fectiveness, as this particular grant takes up most of the budget of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Yes. What I will basically say is that, as you can appreciate, Member, without an anti-doping regime, most of our athletes would not be allowed to participate overseas. And so, in answering that question, what I will say is that 39 per …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Ben Smith Well, just re -asking the same question because I am just asking if —
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary then? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: And I will undertake to get a more specifi c answer to that question.
Mr. Ben Smith Okay. Thank you. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: But I thought you would appreciate the other facts.
Mr. Ben Smith Yes. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker So, are you satisfied? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Next quest ion. Does anyone else have a supplementary on that matter? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have a suppl ementary based on the Minister’s answer.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That 39 per cent is going to administrat ion. And my question to that 39, it is actually 40- plus per cent. It is 40.56 per cent that is going to administration. And the question is, Is that an equitable balance between the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: There are strict . . . I basically have answered that question, saying that I will undertake to get further information. But, on top of that, there are strict international guidelines which require this authority to operate in a certain manner. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. This is your second question now?
Mr. Ben Smith Yes. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. 22 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just looking at the fact that there are 57 tests, which is costing us $256,000, t he reason I brought up the other sports is that if we are spending so much of our money on testing and not a lot of money on developing athletes, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: The question does not pertain to the [Statement], and what is in here. And it was specifically about the financials and the anti -doping regime. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Speaker, I guess my question is, how much is a test? If it is 57 tests, $256,000, it seems like we are spending a lot of money on these tests.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Go ahead. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: To test one individual, and if you are testing them overseas, it costs about $2,000.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: If a test is conducted locally, that test is about $1,000. And I can say that many of our athletes operate overseas and live overseas. So, hence the task with financing some of those tests.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Supplementary? Okay. Yes, put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Ben Smith Yes. So, I guess carrying on with this same line, what is the level of our athletes to warrant this level of testing? The reason [I] ask the question is, if we are paying this amount of money, do we have athletes of that calibre to continue to . . …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Wait, wait, wait, Minister. Members, the conversation is between the person who puts the question, the Member who puts the question to the Speaker, and the Minister to r espond. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: In order for any athlete to be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any supplementary? Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, I have a supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Minister indicated in her response that if a test is conducted overseas, it is $2,000, and if it is conducted locally it could be $1,000 per test. So, the question is, Why do we have $256,000 worth of tests for 57 samples …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I would think that that former Minister can appreciate how these allocations come about. And, as you know, there are the specific tests and whatever else is involved in paying people who are associated with doing these tests. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 23 Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, the math just plain does not work. The Minister, based on her response, has indicated that tests could be $2,000 and that the numbers …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Mr. Speaker, I said that there are ancillary costs attached to testing. And I am not going to say anything beyond that.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Supplementary, yes. Can the Minister advise what the ancillary charges are in relation to the samples so that we can get some feel for why the cost has escalated to $4,500 per test, as articulated in her Statement?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I will undertake to seek those answers, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary or new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary. The S peaker: Supplementary on the supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Honourable Minister: I think we all appreciate the Honourable Minister providing information on what the ancillary costs are. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. Put your question. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: But if we could have an understanding of when and why, and the numbers to be tested.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I can undertake to do that.
The Speaker The Speaker Now, Member, you did indicate you had a question. Do you still want to put your question? Okay. We recognise the Member from constituency 10 with his question now. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Thank you, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I will undertake to get those answers.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No supplementary? No further question? We will move on to the next Statement. And the next Statement that Members have indicated they have questions . . . in fact, three Members have indi-cated t hat they have questions for this Statement. And that is the Statement from the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Good morning. I do not have the specifics on those positions. I can undertake to get those positions for you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Are you satisfied? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: That is good. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. The next Member who has indicated that he has a question is the Member from constituency 8, Member Simons.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank y ou, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, Member. QUESTION 1: SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, succession planning always starts from the top. So, my question is, what succession planning framework do we have for the civil service executives? And do the civil service executives, the Cabinet Secretaries, the Assistant Secretaries, and the Director have a formal appraisal process? And who does it?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes, there is a formal appraisal process as undertaken by the Public Service Commi ssion. And there is a succession plan in place for all senior level civil servants, and that is underway.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question? SUPPLE MENTARY
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Yes, Mr. Speaker, my supplementary on that . So, as this is an ongoing programme, who is actually leading this initiative of succession planning in the public service? And will that person who is leading it have performance targets? The Speaker: Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. This will …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you, Minister. There is als o a supplementary from the Honourable Member, Mrs. Atherden. You can put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, through you to the Minister: It is an indication that 17 Bermudians are on the Public Services Development …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: That currently is not publicly available. However, I c an undertake to ensure that i t is publicly available, the list of 17 Bermudians.
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: And is it possible? B ecause, to me, it is not just about knowing who is there, but progress report so that people can know how they are progressing. Is that possible, as well?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: In the spirit of full transparency, I can undertake to ensure that there are interim progress reports provided for those individuals.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Now, there was a supplementary indicated from the Member from constituency 23. [ Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Covered it? Okay. I think the original asker of the questions would like to continue then. This is your second question. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 25 Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Yes. My second question is, Will the Minister be willing to table the Government’s retirement age report that was mentioned in his presentation, retirement by age report for the government civil service?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I will be happy to table that report.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Supplementary. Does this report dovetail in any way with the Workforce Development Plan?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Those reports were done at di fferent periods in time, so they do not necessarily dovetail with one another.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question? Supplementary? Okay.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons So, will both plans be r eviewed so that we can get the best outcome?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Well, clearly, Mr. Speaker, that is obviously the intention. We will carefully review all plans to ensure that there is the best outcome on the way forward.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. More questions? Supplementaries? None. The next Member who indicated, Minister, that they had questions to put to you is the Member from constituency 20. Member Jackson, you have the floor, Honourable Member. QUESTION 1: SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning. Minis ter, my question is, What is being done to safeguard those who are in the succession plan-ning pool from any external hiring of Bermudians who are somewhat parachuted into position?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Parachuted into pos ition in the civil service, you mean?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. Well, that is a process that is developed by the Public Service Commission [PSC] in terms of the employment opportunities. And when jobs are made available, everyone is free to apply for those positions. And so, the PSC makes a decision based on who the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I just have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary from the Member from 23. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister referred to the PSC and how they are looking at efficiencies and the like. The vex atious issue that has existed throughout perennial gov-ernments —
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Is there any particular efficiencies that are being employed under this new regime to ensure that the PSC is operating eff iciently and timely?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: I think, Mr. Speaker, that there are always efforts being made that there are greater efficienci es in the delivery of the services of the Public Service Commission. That is an ongoing matter. And we review it constantly.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson This is a supplementary. 26 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Supplementary from the Member from constituency 20. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, I just want to clarify then. So, if someone has been identified in the succession planning, a position might be earmarked for them. But, at the same time, if an external Bermudian qualified for the same position, then that existing member of the government civil service would get the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Well, the position would not become really available until such time as the person is fully capable and qualified for that position. So, the position will not be advertised until such time as the person is fully capable of taking over that position.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? We have a suppl ementary from the Honourable Member from constit uency 19. Honourable Member, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a supplementary, and this ties into my earlier question about whether the people who are on the succession plan …
The Speaker The Speaker Put the question. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Is the Minister . . . does the Public Service Commission look at what is outside before they make the decision on developing som ebody internally? Bermudians, Bermudians outside, before they make the decision on developing som eone internally to determine which one …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: The PSC considers all applic ations for positions and will make a decision based on the best possibility, the best alternative at that time.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Supplementary. The Speaker: Continue. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: And the reason I say, in terms of the succession planning, is because the ad-vertising does not come until such time as the position is ready to be filled. But if you are trying to …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Well, no. Because the process of the identification of the qualified Bermudian inhouse has its own process. A nd so, the position is not going to be advertised until such time as that person is ready for that position.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have a suppl ementary.
The Speaker The Speaker We have a supplementary from the Member from c onstituency 23. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, things happen. People quit. People die. So the question is, just to elucidate on the comment by my honourable colleague, How are we looking at external Bermudians …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That person will be brought into the mix through an open process of advertising. And so, peo-ple can apply for any position that becomes available, except for the positions that have been earmarked for the intended persons.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. One more supplementary. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 27 Bermuda House of Assembly I think if the Minister had stopped before he said “except,” I think I would have accepted his answer. But what he is basically saying is …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Well, it is very much akin to having an understudy. You have an understudy for a pos ition. And the position is something that the person moves up into that position. There is nothing untoward about it. It is part and parcel of the process.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker But you asked your supplementaries already. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I do not think so. I think I asked one.
The Speaker The Speaker One? Okay. Your second supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you. To the Minister: In terms of determining who is going to get the understudy position, is there anything within the civil service where the range of people’s experience is identified? Because, sometimes, people are in a position A, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Absolutely. There is a process of identifying the skill sets of individuals in the civil service who are eligible and suitable for being ident ified for promotion. And that is a rigorous process that is engaged in, and it is a process that works …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, I know, recently, there is a new PS [Permanent Secretary] who has just joined from private sector. Is the Minister indicating that that position arose and that gentleman got that position because there were no other qualified candidates within government who could take that job?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Speaker, I am not in a pos ition to answer that question.
The Speaker The Speaker Any fu rther supplementaries? Supplementary from the Honourable Member from constituency 20. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is there any formal documentation that a civil servant within the succession planning programme can, sort of, sign into so that there is some form of security around the earmarked position?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: As far as I am aware, there is no formal documentation in this regard. It is all done on the basis of identifying individuals and then prep-ping them for the position.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Any supplementary? No supplementaries, no further questions. That brings the questions regarding that particular Statement to a close. We will now move on to the next Statement for which Members have indicated that they have questions. And we have a question from the Member from constituency 8 to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you are constituency 8. Yes. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker It is to the Minister of Education. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA COLLEGE 2017 –2018 ANNUAL REPORT
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Okay. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I note that the Minister has indicated that there will be established the Bermuda Col-lege Foundation. Can he provide more details on the purpose of the foundation and how the foundation i ntends to raise its capital?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Dia llo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I can endeavour to provide that information at a later date.
The Speaker The Speaker At a later date. Thank you. Supplementary? You have a supplementary?
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Yes. QUESTION 2: BERMUDA COLLEGE 2017 –2018 ANNUAL REPORT
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, like this fall, I travel the Caribbean quite a bit. And I notice that the University of West Indies has campuses mostly throughout the Caribbean. Has the Bermuda College entertained the possibility of marketing the college to other Caribbean neighbours and friends so that we can get a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank y ou, Mr. Speaker. Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Any further question? Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Supplementary. And when will that plan be effected, and how much in resources have we committed to ensuring its success?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, the explor ation of getting non- Bermudian persons to join Berm uda College is a continuing exercise. And when we do have people join the college from outside of Bermuda, announcements will be made at that point.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker That is it? Okay. The next Statement that Members have indicated they have a question for would be for the Mini ster of Works. Minister of Works, you have a question from the Honourable Member from constituency 7. Honourable Member Richards, you can put your question. QUESTION 1: KINGS WHARF …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Spe aker, I happily provide it, since they fell for the trap. It will be Crisson Construction, Ltd. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker I would not necessarily say “trap.” It was information they were seeking. It was information. We are all here to find out information. Any supplementaries? No supplementary? No Supplementary. We will move on to the last Statement that has been indicated— [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Members, there is only one voice. [Inaudible inter jections] Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 29 Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Members! [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker It is early in the session. Let us understand that is not going to be tolerated through the session. We will not be shouting and talking back and forth to each other. Come through the Speaker, and you will get your response. The next Member who has indicated that they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: I am actually not clear. If you can be more specific, that would be more helpful. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It is not a trap, it is just general information. Is there any discussion between you, as the Minister of National Security, and the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes. Second question, really.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Go ahead. QUESTION 2: ROADSIDE SOBRIETY CHECKS Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: In the Minister’s short Statement this morning, the Minister does outline where the checkpoints have been located over the past couple of weeks. And we know that they are all in the central part of the Island. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Eleven occasions, we started in September , Mr. Speaker. We have had the occasion to do this 11 times. And each time, there are over 100 people going through the checkpoints. This is som ething that we will not stop next week. This is an ongoing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any supplementaries? No further question? That brings us to a close of the Question P eriod for today. And we will move on with the other matters on the Order Paper. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would anyone like to speak on that matter? Any congratulatory [speeches]? We recognise the Honourable Member Richards from constituency 7. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will try and be as brief as I can. I would like condolences to …
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 8. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to send condolences out to the family of the late Honourable C. V. “Jim” Woolridge, former Cabinet Minister, the “Voice of Summer.” As you know, Mr. Woolridge was Berm uda’s foremost ambassador when it came to tourism. He was instrumental …
The Speaker The Speaker Nephew, nephew.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Gershwyn Smith, again another special character from Smith’s —he lived in my constituency. And, in fact, he ran against me in the last election. It was funny, because we were standing at a polling station, saying, Where’s Gershwyn? Where’s Gershwyn? And Gershwyn came in for about 10 minutes with his …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons But that was Gershwyn. And I think I saw some writings about him. And to sum it up, this report said that Gershwyn’s spiritual teachings were summed up in his slogans, such as Build a better world. Build a better Bermuda. Unity in the community. Community development depends on you. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I now recognise the Honourable Member from Warwick, Honourable Member Tyrrell, from constit uency 26.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And good afternoon, all. Mr. Speaker, following our summer break, three of my constituents passed on. Unfortunately, they were all women. And I would like this House to send letters of condolences to each of them. And I will name them in no particular order. Mrs. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s, the Honourable Member Swan. You have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, very much, and good morni ng. Mr. Speaker, it is on a sad note that I rise t oday. There are a number of condolences that I want to start to offer. Mrs. Frances “Fanny” Hall, from Sout hampton, proprietor of the Lilliput Nursery School …
The Speaker The Speaker Some of us in this room were students in that nursery.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan The building of many foundations through family and through her love of God and her service. My cousins from Rose Hill, and the Bailey’s B ay family that it encompasses, as well. A great lady —may she rest in peace. Ms. Ianthe Louise Pearman, a stalwart of St. George’s, very …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe the tributes to Gilbert Darrell and Jim Wool ridge have been associated with the whole House. But I did …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Minister. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, all. Mr. Speaker, I rise today for three sad occ asions. But I begin with one that has a unique place in my heart and …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: He was a mentor to my father. And later in his life, he was a mentor to me. And he will be truly, truly missed. Mr. Speaker, Ms. Cheyanne Brangman, who passed recently, unexpectedly, I first met during the last general election, the last day. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Beware of what you say. [Laughter] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: But, no. Jim Woolridge was one whom I certainly respected and would certainly never forget him. Also, Mr. Gilbert Darrell. Mr. Darrell, a polit ician, a businessman, one who was very well respec ted in Smith’s Parish and the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. We now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 19. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I know we have talked about Gilbert Darrell and the House being associated. But I just wanted to make one observation.
The Speaker The Speaker Sure. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Because I think, too often, we do not realise that, ov er time, people have many different lives and different ways in which they assoc iate. Gilbert Darrell’s wife is my godmother. And so, obviously, he and my father and mother were friends a long …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, well, well . . . Just remember you are speaking publicly now. You are speaking in public now. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, sorry. He could soften the edges. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, no. He could soften the edges. And I just want …
The Speaker The Speaker He made it equal. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: He gave equality. Not in the direction that I wanted to go. But anyway, those things happen. So . . . but in any case, I just wanted to say that these are people. And what worries me is that all these …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Speak for yourself. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Well, we are all getting younger. How is that? We all think younger. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Anyway, I am supposed to speak to the Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Getting better. How is that? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes. So, I just want to have condolences sent to their f amilies and the family of Sherry Tavares and the family of Giuseppe Rocher. Sherry, she was a consti tuent. Giuseppe and his wife were what I call the family …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 21. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, firstly, I would like to offer condolences to the family of Mr. Kenny Paul.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong I was not sure if somebody had mentioned it. I was out a little earlier. Mr. Kenny Paul, for many of us who are lifelong St. George’s fans, we always remember him, those of us over a certain age, of being part of that St. George’s dynasty in the early …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The BELCO strike.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The BELCO strike.
Mr. Rolfe Commis siong The “BELCO strike,” yes. [They] were determined to ensure that the conditions that existed over there because of the lack of union representation were going to be addressed. Of course, many of us know how that turned out. And Mr. Paul, I think qui te unfairly, was arrested, tried and …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, Ah. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong No, I am not going to . . . Okay, Mr. Speaker. I thank you for the time. And I think it was time well spent. Thank you so much. The Sp eaker: Thank you. We recognise the Member from constituency 10. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Michael …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. We recognise the Minister of Education. Mi nister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, obviously, would like to be associated with all of the comments, especially for Jim Woolridge and for Shiloh. Shiloh is someone who was very close and near to my father, and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, sir!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Associate! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Trevor Lindsay —we can associate the whole House. Trevor Lindsay took on some students from Dellwood Middle School as a day relief programme and brought them to my office. And we had a good chat yesterday. I just want to highlight that, to let …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I will take, with the indulgence, because I believe you are the last Member who is looking to rise to her feet. I will take the Honourable Member, and then we will recognise the . . . Other Members want to speak?
The Speaker The Speaker Well, we will come back after lunch then, for that. We will come back after lunch because there are other Members who wish to speak. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes. Members, your Whips may have indicated to you just now that I would like for us to do the moment of silence for former Members. It should have been done this morning. So, when we come back at the end of the condolences and obituaries, we will do …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. The House s tands adjourned until 2:00 pm for our lunch period, and we will continue with the Orders of the Day at that point. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:32 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:04 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] The Speak er: Good …
Mrs. Tinee Furbert Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Then you may have the floor.
Mrs. Tinee Furbert Good afternoon and thank you, Mr. Speaker . I would li ke to give condolences [regarding] quite a number of my constituents who have passed in the last couple of weeks. Mr. Wayne Johnston who was a long time serving employee of the Southampton Princess, he was responsible for security …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member wish . . . we recognise the Honourable Member Famous. Honourable Member , you have the floor.
Mr. Christophe r Famous Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. Christopher Famous —and Bermuda. I wish to give condolences as well, starting off with Mr. Wayne Augustus who was a faithful employee of the Corporation of Hamilton. He was also my family. Ms. Selina Dean, who was a classmate of mine in Berkeley, she was a constituent of Mr. Neville Tyrrell , …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s. Honourable Member Ming, you have the floor.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker —I am sorry —
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Ms. Ming.
Mrs. Renee Ming —good afternoon, Mr. Speaker, how are you today?
The Speaker The Speaker We are good.
Mrs. Renee Ming I have sad notes today, Mr. Speaker. St. George’s has been taking a blow down there, but I would like to just send prayers and words of comfort to the family of Arthur George Wales —I like his name as George, I do not know why I call him A …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . 38 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Minister for Works. Minister, you have the floor.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, thank you and good afternoon. Let me first be associated with the condolences for Allen Smith, Wayne Augustus and Eugene Wainwright. And even as a Somerset supporter — lifelong and gone die—I will be associated with the condolences to Mr. Kenny Paul because even though he played for …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —and I run out of time.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minist er.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch We should allow more time when we come back after the summer recess.
The Speaker The Speaker After the summer recess . . . okay. Gee, you took my mind right off my thought. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: He took your breath away, didn’t he, Mr. Speaker ?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, he did. Minister De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker I see you on your feet. I am assuming you would like to add a contribution. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I would. In fact , Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —let me finish off what the Colonel was going to say . I think, in that . . . because I attended the Youth Parliament as well —the opening— and I think he wanted to certainly congratulate all the young people …
The Speaker The Speaker A couple. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And, of course, I thi nk one of them is here today , and the two of you have created history. So, that being said, I would certainly like to congratulate all of them for participating in Youth Parliament and I look …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Colonel you had your chance. So there is no one— [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker —he was the only one that moved, right? Nobody else is moving, so I am going to assume . . . but Colonel before you go through, let me invite you back in. Come back in because we have now concluded the condolences and congratulations , being no one else …
The Speaker The Speaker I would just like to ask all Members to join me in a moment of silence to recognise our two former Members who have already had words expressed, but I think it is only fitting that we do the tr adition that we would do for any former Member who …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. MATTERS OF PRIV ILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker We have two Government Bills listed on the Order Paper to be introduced, and we will call on the Minister of Tourism —Minister —for the first matter. FIRST READING MERCHANT SHIPPING AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I am …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And for the second it is the Minister of Health. Minister. FIRST READING CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER ( [TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS] AND VALIDATION) ACT 2018 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we have moved to Orders of the Day and the first item on the Order Paper for t oday would be the continuation [of the consideration] of the Speech from the Throne given last week. And t oday we will have the Reply from the Opposition, but we will …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy [Premier]. Does any Member wish to speak to that? We recognise the Honourable Member , the Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member Cannonier, you have the floor. REPLY TO THE 2018 THRONE SPEECH Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker , for this opportunity this afternoon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Could we pause for a minute? Do you have copies to be circulated today? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, they are all here.
The Speaker The Speaker Sergeant -at-Arms — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: They are in the House.
The Speaker The Speaker —do you have the copies to circulate? Beg your pardon? The Sergeant -at-Arms: No, sir . Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Where are they? They were brought up here.
The Speaker The Speaker Let us just pause for one minute to find out where they are so the Sergeant can circulate them. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Just one minute, Members. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Opposition Leader, you can continue now that they are being distributed. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Employment has fallen. GDP is down. The volume of retail sales is down. Schools are crumbling, and health care costs are higher than they have ever been. In short, we are …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, we do not want to drown out the speaker. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Business confidence was once again on the rise. The opportunities for Berm udians were bearing fruit. Jobs for Bermudians were being created. Mr. Speaker , the Premier has been, he says, boldly pursuing a third …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. We have compared—sorry. Mr. Speaker , the recent economic indicators show that Bermudians were bet ter off in the first quarter of 2015 than the first quarter of 2018. We have compared the data from 2015 so that no one can say …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members. Hon. L. Craig Cannon ier: It was the OBA that signed agreements with Airbnb and developed the Tourism Investment Act, which the Burt administration took credit for. • It was the OBA that started the conversations and began work on roadside sobriety testing. • It was the OBA …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —the partisan shouting, despite the misleading [statements] and heckling from the other side, as we can hear now. Despite the prop-aganda spread so thick by some of those “pop- up” campaigns. Mr. Speaker , Bermudians are starting to see the hypocrisy of the Burt …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members . . . Members. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Take the former Minister of Transport. He licensed more mini cars even though he stood in front of the taxi drivers and spoke against mini cars. Take the former Minister of Tourism, now in charge of propaganda, who lambasted the …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there has been one time in my life that I have ever seen my father speechless, and that was during a conversation he had with a family friend. They were having a debate about different i ssues. My dad had an answer for every …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott So, Mr. Speaker, the only thing that I have seen that resembles that response that we just heard, were the Brett Kavanaugh hearings— [Laughter]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott —to the point where there was so much emotion (for no reason), there were so many misconceptions or factual . . . [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Yes, so many factual inconsistencies, that I was just waiting for the Opposition Leader to pull out a “creepy calendar” to show on what dates the OBA did what they said they did. But, Mr. Speaker, I am not going to spend my time talking about that so- called “Reply,” …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott And as the Premier says, that is work that the former administration should have started. That is work that the former administration should have done. Right? But I digress. The thing is, Mr. Speaker, knowing that this is what needed to be done in order to create a Bermuda, or …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That needs to be reformed.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott And that needs to be r eformed. And that is what this Government is doing, Mr. Speaker. How can we create a fairer Bermuda, how can we create a better Bermuda, if we did not address income inequality? How can we ensure that every Bermudi an has the same opportunity? …
Mr. W. Lawrenc e Scott As MP Neville Tyrrell from constituency 26, says, every little bit helps. So, Mr. Speaker, on our way, making our way to our destina-tion of a better, fairer, and safer Bermuda, in these few minutes I have been able to show you how the average Berm udian, through this Throne …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear!
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott That is something that we are going to tackle. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 51 Bermuda House of Assembly We are going to have it so that consumer pr otections are put in place so if they sell your home, if they sell that asset, you are not …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Ha! Ho ho! Whoo! [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Oh! [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. W. Lawrence Sco tt I got a little touched there,
Mr. Speaker. I got a little touched. The Speaker All right. Do not get carried away now. Do not get carried away. Remember what platform you are on.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I am not getting carried away, Mr. Speaker. I am going where the spirit moves me, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott And, Mr. Speaker, the Good Book says, Without vision, the people perish. So when you hear us in the PLP say, ‘ We will do this and we are going to do that ,’ that means we have a vision for the future.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes! Yes, sir!
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott We have a vision for the people. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you. And, Mr. Speaker, the Good Book also asks for members to pray for those in authority over them. So I am asking that Members pray for . . . the Honourable Member Wayne Furbert says, Pray for the OBA. I am actually saying that members of the public …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Deputy Leader of the O pposition, Madam Scott. Madam Scott, you have the floor .
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. After that sermon, I think we should all take some communion and go home. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker If the meeting is going home early, you got my support. [Laughter]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Mr. Speaker, governing is a challenge. And I am sure that this Government is finding that governing is a challenge, just like the OBA found it a challenge when we were Government. You have to satisfy your ministers and your backbenchers. You have to satisfy your local and international business …
Ms. Leah K. Scott “Based on these commitments, . . . ‘We stand to create 120 jobs for Bermudians over the next three years.’ “‘Most significantly, we believe in investing in our people and the institutions that strengthen our communities; so we are encouraging these corporate partners to tangibly do the s ame with …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Sorry. It was me. Sorry. [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Leah K. Scott I know. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
Ms. Leah K. Scott What was I saying? Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 55 Bermuda House of Assembly [Crosstalk]
Ms. Leah K. Scott The challenge between medical marijuana and recreational marijuana. We have to make sure that the industry is pr otected and that our people are protected. So who are our farmers going to be? Then you get into the whole . . . like people are going to be breaking into …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise Minister Brown. Minister Brown, would you like to have the floor? Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Speaker, I would like to begin by offering a correction to the Deputy Oppos ition Leader. She said that the Bermuda Government has one of the highest per capita rates of civil service employees. That is not actually true. It is about 17 per …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? Mr. Pearman? Okay. We recognise Mr. Pearman. Honourable Member, Mr. Pearson, from constituency 22. You have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in addition to being the Reply to the Throne Speech, today was the 50th anniversary of the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast. There were a number of those in the Chamber who w ere there this morning.
Mr. Scott Pearman We heard a barnstormer of a speech from Bishop Lambe. And what he said was this, people want to see, people in Bermuda, Berm udians want to see, bipartisanship. And he said this, If there is som ething good in the Throne Speech, then why not say so? And so …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yield a minute, Member. We have a point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mr. Speaker, the Member characterised single- payer systems, and I assume variations of those systems in other countries, as having failed and bankrupted those respective c ountries. Certainly, you have variations of single- payer systems in Europe. And I do not believe that it can be demon-strated that those systems …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mislea ding the House, in other words. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker He will develop his point. Continue, please.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am grateful for the interjection. I stand by my point. Socialist systems do not work. Socialist ideology has failed. A socialist health care system is, as I said, a very bad idea. [ Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman Move to Canada. Bermudians do not want the clunking fist of the state telling them how they can proceed with their health care.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 59 Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Is it . . . let’s try and just let him develop his point. But I will take this, and then we are going to let him move on out. Okay? …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong The Member is misleading the House, Mr. Speaker. The interpolation was that Canada . . . we should move there. Is Canada a socialist country?
The Speaker The Speaker There was not a real point of order in that. But let’s hold it. I believe you want to speak later. You can correct any viewpoi nt that you want to bring when you are on your feet. Just let it flow.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, as I said, Canada has a socialist health care system. I stand by that. I will be corrected, no doubt, later. Bermudians do not want the clunking fist of the state telling them how to manage their health care. Bermudians want choice. Bermudians want options. Yes, we need …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Speak for yourself, Scott. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, continue on.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, the problem with politicians getting involved in independent bodies, is that they tend to mess things up. Exhibit A: Gaming. If it is not stone dead, it seems to be, at very best, on life support. Why? B ecause of Government interference. Because a Mini ster who decided …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member . . . I recognise the Honourable Minister of Health. Minist er Wilson, you have the floor. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for allowing me to contribute to the Throne Speech Reply and the debate. …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you have 30 minutes to talk freely. I will do the bell after your 30 minutes is up. Go right ahead. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. However, seriously, what I would like to do, and I am actually in a very enviable position because, notwithstanding …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: One relates specifically to health care reform, which we have already heard spoken about this evening. As well as the other one as it relates to the extension of maternity leave. So let me start with the first one, the health care financing reforms. Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? You almost got the gavel that time. I was a little slow. I recognise the Honourable Member Commi ssiong. Honourable Member Commissiong, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mr. Speaker, thank you for acknowledging me here. Mr. Speaker, after hearing the Opposition Leader go through a fairly lengthy list of accomplis hments of the OBA Government, I am going to echo what was said by my colleague from constituency 24, and pose the following question: If the claims …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Only 11. And, in fact, the haemorrhaging did not stop with the last election because they subsequently lost a bye- election. Mr. Speaker, for too many Bermudians, a m ajority obviously, the misplaced and short -sighted austerity regime that was imposed upon Bermudians played a huge role in their rejection …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Ho nourable Member . Is there any other Honourable Member . . . I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member , you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I am going to address a couple of gener …
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair, speak to the Chair. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker We do not need to hear about your experiences with that. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Just speak to the Chair. Hon. Patricia J. Go rdon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, you know, some people can say, Oh, you know, I have had this experience. I can say hand on heart that I have never had an experience with it. You smell it at a distance. But let …
The Speaker The Speaker You have a minute and 24 seconds. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay, there is one final thing that I want to say. I am just going to move from health care, and the one thing that I am going to say in that final minute is , we talk …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? [Time r beeps ]
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I know that the Honourable Member who has just taken her seat when seeking to downplay FinTech as not supporting poor people like her good …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Minister Wayne Caines. Minister Caines, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, I have had the opportunity to listen to the Throne Speech [Reply] as artic ulated by the Leader …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Are there other . . . the Chair recognises the Honourable Member Sylvan Richards. Mr. Richards, you have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . I hope I can follow up after that Honourable Member ’s enthusiasm and evangelism. It is a …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Come back. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Is there a job for me if I go back home? And what I am hearing, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that students are saying, Unless som ething happens soon, I am not coming back . Soon we are going to have a brain …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Crystal ball? Mr. Syl van D. Richards, Jr.: —that this PLP Government is going to be forced—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Crystal ball light. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —to do exactly what the OBA Government attempted to do in order to grow our resident population. I know they are having those di scussions, not because my ear is to the wall, or, as the Honourable MP Rolfe Commissiong said, I …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mr. [Deputy] Speaker — point of order. The Depu ty Speaker: What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong He is misleading the House. I did not say they had a crystal ball. I said he had a crystal ball light.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Carry on. 78 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly [Laughter] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: That will be ignored. As I was saying, this PLP Government is going to have to do what the OBA Government attempted to do in order to grow our resident …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What? Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: It is being used to cr eate efficiencies and that monetisation of this new technology is about two years old. So, they can sell this bill of goods to the Bermudian public that it is going to create jobs next week, Thursday —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Nobody said that. Ano ther Hon. Member: No one said that. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —and that it is going to be young people working in blockchain technology after w e train them up. It is not going to happen in time to turn this Government around, to turn …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Carry on, Member. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you for verifying what I just said, Honourable Member. Cryptocurrency — [ Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 79 Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Until I see something concrete, Mr. Deputy …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member For Theresa May —not us. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Unless this PLP Government can create jobs, pay down our debt, reduce the deficit, winter is coming, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Our economic indicators at this moment are all pointing in the wrong direction. It is a fact. Our ec …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Sylvan. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE DEPUTY SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I would just like for the House to recognise the Premier of the Youth Parliament. She was sitting in the Gallery. [ Desk thumping] [ Debate on the 2018 Throne Speech and Reply continuing]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any further speakers? The Chair . . . Mr. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, we have heard a lot today. And what we have heard today is similar to what I have often spoke about, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker , and that is the …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, yield for a point of order. Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. The AML r egime . . . I do not care what he chooses to say. I can tell you what we did, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Continue on, Member. [Inaudible interjections] The Speake r: Members! Members! Members! [Inaudible interjections] [Gavel] [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Members! [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Ministers, would you like your Premier to continue, or do you want him to sit down and you continue your speech? Premier, would you like to continue, or do you need assistance? Hon. E. David Burt: I will continue, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Because it is clear that we struck a nerve on that side. But let me be very cl ear. Let me be very, very clear, Mr. Speaker . If they did the work, then we would not have had to have passed 42 Bills …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We did not hear a word. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Well, silence. A $165 million guarantee—silence.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No point of order? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Understand? So, yes, the Honourable Member that just took his seat is right. We have problems that we must fix. And the problems of which we have, many of them were left by the former Government. But that is okay, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Been embedded. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 83 Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: —engrained in this society. So, when I hear the scion of the Conyers, Dill & Pearman family get up in this House, Mr. Speaker, and criticise FinTech, when his com pany is …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Premier is misleading this House. I said nothing about FinTech in my speech. Hon. E. David Burt: Probably because he was conflicted, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Hon. E. David Burt: But I will tell you what he did argue against. What he did argue against —not only the expansion of maternity leave, but he argued against the fact —
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker . [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Scott Pearman The Premier was not here so he did not see t hat I commended the PLP Throne Speech and commended them for extending maternity leave. [Desk thumping]
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker That is correct. He did support . . . he did support the maternity leave. He supported that. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I was not in the Chamber, but I was listening in my office. And I was listening to the Honourable Member talk about how the fact …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members! Keep it down. Hon. E. David Burt: —this side, this Government also said that medium or large employers who increased the levels of staff of which they have will pay no more payroll tax. But, yet, in the alternate reality of the O pposition Leader, we are increasing …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member But they will not mention that. Hon. E. David Burt: No, they will not mention that. Houses and hotel properties that never sold a single unit when they were in charge, but all of a sud-den when we are in charge, those units are getting sold. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 10. Honourable Member . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker , I appreciate that. Mr. Speaker , I will start out by saying that I was pleased to hear some …
The Speaker The Speaker I will take your point of order. Yes? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , the understanding which I have inside of the rules of this House is that a mover of a motion, he is the last person to speak. The last person . . . …
The Speaker The Speaker The Deputy got up and moved us into it this morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , with respect, if I may, the motion was moved last week. The statement that was read this morning was not the motion which we ar e debating. The motion was moved last …
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on one minute. [Pause] SPEAKER’S RULING [Standing Order 19(9)]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, I thank you for the indulgence. We have had quite a discussion back and forth in regard to this. We have pulled out the Minutes and we are going by the wording of the Minutes and what was read last week in comparison with what we read this morning …
The Speaker The Speaker With that, would you like to make the next motion? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I move that this Honourabl e House do now adjourn until Friday, November 23rd.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any Member wish to speak to that? Mr. Famous? OBA/ UBP AND CREDIBILITY
Mr. Christopher Famous Good day, Mr. Speaker . I will be very brief. You do not . . . do not run yet. Mr. Speaker , we heard somebody talking about Wakanda today —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, it is true.
Mr. Christopher Famous We heard about Game of Thrones . Let us talk about People’s Court . Does anybody remember People’s Court ? Mr. Speaker , when somebody i s on trial the first thing that has to be established is credibility. So let us talk about credibility. The definition of credibility: “The …
Mr. Christopher Famous So that is seven other —
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker I will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, just for the benefit of the record, because I did just say to Mr. Famous that that is incorrect, but he said, No poi nt of order, no denial? No, Mr. Famous. That was a denial; and this is my point of order.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker , the things we find on social media. This is from Dunkley.
The Speaker The Speaker The Honourable Member . . . the Honourable Member .
Mr. Christopher Famous Sorry. Honourable Member Dunkley, my apologies. So, according to my math there are seven out of eleven OBA MPs who are actually UBP. Let us do the math. Sixty -five per cent of the OBA is really the UBP. Any denials? No. So let us go to the statement from …
The Speaker The Speaker We will take . . . Member, will you yield for a point of order?
Mr. Christopher Famous I would be like Maxine W aters, but go ahead. The Spea ker: You will yield. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Just for a matter of clarity —
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Patricia J . Gordon -Pamplin: The UBP bec ame defunct, and I am an OBA member and was elected as an OBA member. If w e are talki ng about people who wer e UBP, may be the Honourabl e Member can conti nue and …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Okay. This is about . . . this is a statement from [the Royal Gazette October 11th, [2018] Mr. Speaker , “This is about us changing course.” (Opposition Leader Craig Cannonier.) Now, the question is how can you change course if 65 per cent of your caucus is UBP? It …
Mr. Christopher Famous But they cannot do it because there would only be four of you left. Let us go a little further. Headlines —Exhibit B . . . C, sorry. “In defence of Fahy, my friend” (Craig Cannonier) . . . Oh, sorry, the Honourable Michael Fahy. [ Royal Gazette 4 October …
Mr. Christopher Famous Oh, he petitioned the Government to be honourable. But anyway, let me speak to the Speaker. Headlines —“He” (Michael Fahy) “was indeed a ‘chief architect’ of the BDA. Frankly, without him, the BDA would not have been.” As we all know, the BDA was the splinter group that pretended they …
Mr. Christopher Famous Oh, it gets even better. [ Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher Famous Curio user and curiouser. I quote from the Honourable Craig Cannonier, “Doing a deal with the UBP meant we lost good people who could not bring themselves to join UBP members. ” But you did. All right. Finally . . . would you like to point -of-order me? The Spe …
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair.
Mr. Christopher Famous All right. My last piece, Mr. Speaker , Exhibit D —not “C” for Canada. Anyway — [Crosstalk and laughter ]
Mr. Christopher Famous Headlines —[Royal G azette ], “The old guard must go” from Opposition Senate Leader Nick Kempe. “I believe now, as I did then, that the only way” (the only way) “ for the One Berm uda Alliance to survive is for it to thank and exit ” (that means get …
Mr. Christopher Famous I do not know. Why doesn’t he get rid of them? But let us say we go back to the word “credibility.” You cannot have credibility in anything you say when the first things you are saying out of the gate are proven to be false. Anything you say after …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member . . . we recognise the Member from —
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Ooh, ooh.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members! The Member from constit uency 10 has the floor. PLP CABINET SHUFFLE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I appreciate the excitement when I stand to speak. Mr. Speaker , a couple of weeks ago when the Honourable Premier announced his Cabinet shuffle— his second …
The Speaker The Speaker Now, now, let us just keep—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speak er—
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Thank you. I did not —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker I did not acknowledge anybody. I have not acknowledged anybody, so nobody should be on their feet. Let us keep it in order, and let us not make accusations. Let us just keep it above board. You can continue speaking. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker But keep it clean. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . So Mr. Speaker , many people who have talked to me as I have canvassed and as I have walked the streets, just like everyone in this House does, wonder why there is a larger Cabinet now. …
The Speaker The Speaker I will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Wayne Caines: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. The Premier, on more than one occasion, gave reasons, rationales why he made the decisions that he has made. He did that in the public domain, and he also …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you for that interjection, Mr. Speaker . But that is just another Minister, y ou know, trying to support the Premier. I certainly have not heard that. Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of order, Mr. Speaker . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker , …
The Speaker The Speaker Ahh . . . Members! Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of order, Mr. Speaker . [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Hon. Wayne Caines: That Member is [imputing] i mproper motive. He cannot speak or make reference to anything to do with my state of mind. So he cannot make that reference, Mr. Speaker . Thank you very much. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne Caines: …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Members, let us continue. His point that he was making was basically a response to your question that you wanted clarification. The Premier did clarify what the roles of his Cabinet would be when he did the shuffle. That part was in the public knowledge. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Wayne Caines: That Member is misleading the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, Minister, we need not go back and forth. That is his opinion. He is expressing his opinion. If you want to present a different one afterwards, do it when he finishes. You can come to your feet. Because you have expressed that the Prem ier was clear on the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I appreciate that it is sensitive for some Government Members because while at one point they have to defend the Premier and at the other point Backbenchers, who believe they are well - qualified to sit in …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, Members! Members. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker .
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You had the chance to run the country. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, I did not have the chance to run the country. W e were elected to run the country! It is not a chance! [Inaudible interjection] Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 91 Bermuda House of Assembly …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, Members! [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, he just—
The Speaker The Speaker Members.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You had your chance.
The Speaker The Speaker Direct your conversation— Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker , I hear them say we had a chance.
The Speaker The Speaker —this way. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker , you know what? If you want chance, go to Vegas! [Inaudible interjection and laughter ] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: If you want a chance, go to Vegas, Mr. Speaker . When you are elected you have to lead for the people. …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members! [Gavel] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It must be the shortest disappearance from Cabinet in the history of this country, Mr. Speaker .
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh, no! Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Fired in February, but back in October. Ooh! That is pretty quick, Mr. Speaker. But Mr. Speaker , the governance of this country is serious business. And now we have a Premier who touts transparency and accountability, but he has got two minister s …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I recognise the Honourable Member from the East End, Mr. Swan, from constituency 2. You have the floor. 92 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker , I recognised that earlier the Honourable Member did not have the opportunity to speak when he elected to remain in his seat. And I noticed that he jumped to his feet on the motion to adjourn with two Members that he was r eferring to absent. But, …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And the truth of that has not really been told!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No! [Inaudible interjections] [Gavel]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan It really, really, really has not. And it is most, most, most unfortunate. And so my honourable colleague who opened up the motion to adjourn and alluded to how things relate in that r egard, was on a very good wicket. But let me just say that there is not …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And so Bermuda lost as a consequence on the gamble of the Government that Team Oracle would win. That is a gamble. It is a gamble because it did not sustain itself economically. [Inaudible interjections ]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan It did not sustain itself economically. And yes . . . and yes, the Honourable Opposition Leader throws a dart about it . . . Grand Atlantic. But in your four years of Government we still have to come back and pick up, because you did nothing with it in …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan There is Boundary Lane right here! Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 93 Bermuda House of Assembly So when the Premier speaks for that side, he is speaking of it from the constituency divide! And you know, if we have the opportunity of another byeelection, Robin Hood Corner is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The Speaker The Speaker I now recognise the Minister of National Security. How is that ? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne Caines: I think we all thought we were going home and . . . and—
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes. [Inaudible interjections ] OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP Hon. Wayne Caines: I just texted my wife to see if she can keep my corned beef and hash . . . if she can put that in the oven until I get home, Mr. Speaker . And so . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. I now recognise Minister Simmons. Minister? OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I have to agree with my colleague who took his seat. I will not spend too much time on the irrel evant. But I will say this …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member When is it? Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: November 18 th, four years. Time flies when you are having fun. So, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjection] 94 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Ber muda House of Assembly Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: No, it was not the first time. Go back …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Minister. Do not revisit. That debate is closed. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I am not going revisit that.
The Speaker The Speaker That debate is closed. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I am not going to revisit that because that debate is closed.
The Speaker The Speaker You did not take the opportunity; let us not go back. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Well, Mr. Speaker, I will talk about some of the things that are happening. Berkeley Institute has APs [advanced plac ements]. CedarBridge Academy is producing more IGCSE [ International General Certificate of Secondary Education] …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much. Minister De Silva, would you like to take the floor now? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, sure, Mr. Speaker. Why not?
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. OBA’S ATT EMPT TO DIVIDE PLP Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Speaker, this has been an interesting motion to adjourn. And with your permission, Mr. Speaker, I can table this. This is an advert that the OBA used in 2012. And it is a nice, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It was good enough for America’s Cup guests. Hon. Z ane J. S. De Silva: Oh, it was good enough for America’s Cup participants! It certainly was.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I guess they tried to sell it, too. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And they tried to sell it. [ Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, they did. Now, Mr. Speaker, you know, I have got to mention an old Bermuda saying. And it goes som …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, yes. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 97 Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, I tell you what. If he thinks he can divide and conquer this team, it will never happen. Never happen. Just because there was some dividing and conquering going …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, he was. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, yes, sir. Oh, yeah. B ecause you get pushed out, you want to try to take ev erybody with you. [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You see? Misery loves company. Yes, it does. Well, I could …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Amen. Amen. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That is all I am saying, Mr. Speaker. Okay? And the other thing is t his. I think that Honourable Member would do himself justice by not trying to give our Premier advice. Because, obviously, he comes from a position of non- …
Mr. Scott Pearman No. Everyone in Bermuda thinks that. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, they do?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, the Honourable Member from [constituency] 22 . . .
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member So, he speaks for all Bermuda! [ Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member Pearman says, Everybody in Bermuda thinks that. You see, that is the mind- set.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He speaks for all Bermuda now. FINTECH AND ARBITRADE Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Notwithstanding that his company has made a boatload of money off some of these transactions, Mr. Speaker. Okay? A boatload of money. But I tell you what. You see the attitude and the comments from …
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I gave him some leash because I knew he would eventually get caught on it. Mr. Speaker, I never chastised Arbitrade. I asked questions, Mr. Speaker. And I asked the Honourable Member across the floor, What …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, if I chastised you every day in the newspaper and tweeted every two minutes that you—you, Mr. Speaker — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Minister is known …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. All right. All right. Okay. [ Crosstalk] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, Mr. Speaker! Oh, he just sa id I will not show him one. I will table one right here. And, in fact, let me read it for you.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Read it! Read the whole thing. Read the whole thing. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, look . The press comments by Arbitrade raised more red flags than from a hurricane on South Shore Beach.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Read the article! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That was one of his things, Mr. Speaker. But let me say this, because . . . How much time do I have left, Mr. Speaker? Hon. Michael H. Dunkl ey: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member should read the whole article. …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. The Minister has the floor. Let him continue. Let him continue. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. How m uch time do I have left? Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 99 Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You have got just about nine …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, he will speak to his opinion. He will speak to his opinion. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, do we need any more proof? We have got a building that has been purchased by this company, vetted by the Bermuda Monetary Authority, the Registrar of Companies, been …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member “Tilt”? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So, do I need . . . Yeah, yeah, to the tilt . . . to the hilt. I mean, to the “hilt.” [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But, Mr. Speaker, he has got some crust! But, …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Ahh! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It is only them. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, no! Black people in this country are not supposed to rub shoulders with bi llionaires! [Inaudible interjections and general uproar ] [Gavel] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It is …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Now you are talking!
The Speaker The Speaker Let us get back on the track that you were on. Go back to the track that you were on. Members! Members! Members, Members. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, we have had a couple of predictions today . I am going to give you one, that the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We asked a legitimate question. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: One minute you say we are not doing anything; the next minute when we do something, you say, Ooh. Wait a minute. The sky is falling. The sky is falling. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is just not true. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member said, Well, that’s not true. I t’s not true. Do you read some of the things that your colleague, your good friend, Michael Dunkley, talks about in the newspaper, the Honourable Member?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Read them out. Read them out. Read them out. Read them out. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva : I mean, the Honourable Member Pearman just said, that is right, Nobody in Bermuda believes that Arbitrade is legit.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. That is right. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And that is in Hansard.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is right. Hon. Zane J. S. D e Silva: A lawyer . . . a lawyer whose company has benefited more than any other lawyer company with these 44 FinTech companies, I would bet. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: We did not see any point of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. We now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member, you have the floor. SERVING WITH DIGNITY AND P RIDE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last Friday, which was the day that we returned to Parliament, represented the 20 …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Point of order, Mr. Speak er. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes?
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order is taken. POINT OF ORDER
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch That Honourable Member is presuming to know what is in my mind. And I can assure her that there is just a long way from ever being able to figure that out.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Uh-oh. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: You are wrong.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I said they fell into the trap, because I know who they are. I know who they thought I was going to name, because that is how they operate. And I did not deliberately leave out the name of the company. I did not want to put it into the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou. Continue, Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, the same way the Honourable Minister could indicate that I do not know what he is thinking, he certainly does not know what we are thinking. And he put a Stat ement out that was incomplet e, and …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I know you have got an issue. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —so that we should never have had to ask the question. This is the people’s money. It is not the Opposition’s money. It is not the Minister’s money. It is the people’s money that is going to be …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members. Members. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I say one thing, Mr. Speaker. In the 20 years that I have been there, I have never been smothered by the toxicity of fumes, because I have had my head stuffed so far up. I have never done that, Mr. Speaker. …
The Speaker The Speaker I am glad you kept that clean in how you put it. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: And I absolutely will, M r. Speaker. I always will, because I honestly believe that the dignity of this House is deserved.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Well said. Well said. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: And I will attempt to maintain it, to the best extent that I can, Mr. Speaker. And I will say that the Government, they choose to expand the cost of Government. They choose to make as many ministers as is constitutionally …
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I think the Honourable Member is misleading the House, maybe unintentionally, when she says there is no proof. This company, Mr. Speaker, you know, because that Honourable Member does not have what she …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And let me remind the Honourable Member and the House that they are li stening, because I have just got emails from them. So, let us respect our people who want to come here and invest in our country and our people.
The Speaker The Speaker Point taken, point taken. Continue on, Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, I have no intention in this Honourable House other than to seek facts and to repeat them as they are known to be. So, if information that I have is incorrect, I am the first one …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member But you are pretty close. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have no doubt. I have no doubt. [Laughter] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: But, you know, so often . . . so often we have comments that are made where it is obvious that Members opposite do not want …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: To fire me! The easiest thing for me to do, because that is something over which we have no control. But when I hear — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, when I hear that somehow my early service to this …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, I now recognise the Deputy Speaker. Deputy Speaker, you have the floor. CALL FOR BETTER GOVERNANCE FROM LANGTON HILL Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has gotten kind of lively. It has gotten a little stormy outside. But, Mr. Speaker, …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. S peaker. 104 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman I am sorry. You are not going to paraphrase me and then say that I said something which is highly offensive. Who was the “they” that I said something about? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman The gentleman is misleading the House. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Do not tell me I am not going to do what, right, because you do not have that authority to tell me what I am going to do. Let us not do that.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, let us try and not get on a personal level.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member has just paraphrased and then misquoted what I have said. If he would like to say what I said, I will listen politely. And if he is wrong, I will challenge him on it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I paraphrased, …
The Speaker The Speaker Let us move on. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: He can get up next, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Let us move on. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: But, Mr. Speaker, that is how these folks are looking at us. They need to start looking at black folks as equal to them. We were born like them. We bleed red like them. When I give blood down at the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. With that, I recognise the Member from St. George’s, the Honourable Member Ming. OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP
Mrs. Renee Ming Good night, Mr. Speaker and li stening audience. Mr. Speaker, with our opening of Parliament, I just want to take this time to continue to encourage our people and our listening audience to . . . I said it before in this place, stay woke. Because a lot of times, …
Mrs. Renee Ming Yes. For years, I did ask the question, from 2015 to 2018, about what does “ reasonable access ” mean for a beach? I went up and down, around and around, asking just a simple question. What does reasonable access mean in the St. George’s Resort Act of 2015? It …
Mrs. Renee Ming A change that the people of St. George’s were able to live with.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Exactly.
Mrs. Renee Ming So, it was not hypocrisy. It was not using that or anything like that. It was actually called listening and doing the work of the people and getting something done. I think sometimes, like I said, I want people to know, hear, and go and understand these things. And maybe, …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, let me just remind you that the Throne Speech debate ended. So, please do not reflect.
Mrs. Renee Ming Oh, no, Mr. Speaker, I am reflec ting on t hings that we did not get a chance to speak about before.
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
The Speaker The Speaker Just be careful. There is a line you do not want to cross.
Mrs. Renee Ming No problem. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. But on August the 10 th, when we delivered this report to this House, I can tell you that it came with a pure passion for wanting to see things done, to protect our communities. And a lot of times, I think what you …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. KINGS WHARF REHABILITATION
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you for this opportunity. I am going to start with something that is probably not quite familiar with many people. And that is this book we often call a “platform.” On my travels, I refer to it as a “book of promises.” I refer to my constituents, particularly in …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay? Never tabled by them, Mr. Speaker. And whilst I am being challenged on what I said, I would not have to have said anything, Mr. Speaker, had that been taken care of in 2014, 2015, 2016 or 2017.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ooh! Ooh! Ooh!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch It was not. It was left to us. And, Mr. Speaker, I can tell you that the number of things t hat have been left to us just in this Mi nistry of Public Works alone is astounding. And I will come next week with something else. Okay? And it …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I take any criticism of Grand Atlantic personally. And I take it personally because I happened to have been sitting in this job a decade ago, maybe slightly less than that, when Grand Atlantic was built. I soon after left that responsibility. And one of the criticisms that …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Very offensive.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch But even notwithstanding that, Mr. Speaker, the project that is now proceeding on the Grand Atlantic, soon to be renamed Bermudiana Beach Resort . . . you know when it started, Mr. Speaker? Before we came. And I do not know which one of those people was the Minister of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Well done. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 107 Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: But, Mr. Speaker, the biggest criticism . . . and I am never going to forgive these people for this until they actually stand up and publicly apologise to the …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, so, until the people who criticise this just because they had no valid reason to do so . . . and I would suggest just because it was a PLP project . . . because I can guarantee you, Mr. Speaker. I can predict something tonight, too. Had …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh, yes!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Oh, yes! I know there were other reasons at work, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Ho n. David A. Burch —because I also happened to be sitting in this post when the Loughlands process and project was built, okay? There was a former Minister of this House who stood and criticised it until it was even built, and still criticised it. And I kn ow that when they went to …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And every shade of Bermudian could report to me that this is the answer they gave to that Honourable Member who used to be a Member of this House. So, Mr. Speaker —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are making points now.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Right. Oh, I know I am making one. Mr. Speaker, I want to talk about one other thing.
The Speaker The Speaker You have got a few minutes left.
The Speaker The Speaker You have got a few.
The Speaker The Speaker Ten minutes, just about.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I declare and decree—
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —that I know very li ttle, and understand even less, about FinTech and blockchain. And I had requested the Minister months ago to come up with a one pager for three- year olds, so that I might be able to understand, and Ms. Smith would be able to join me …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch My knowledge has increased a little bit, because I went to every one of his presentations and got a nugget from each one of them. But Mr. Speaker, I am unequivocal in my support of FinTech and blockchain, and all of this stuff that I do not understand. And do …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —in their operation and positioning themselves . . . what they see into the future . . . Mr. Speaker, I characterise all of these folks as people who smell money. 108 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly An Hon. Member: That’s ri ght! [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch They can smell money at a thousand paces, Mr. Speaker. And I know! I know! I have seen the movie before. The movie is, Oh, no, we are going to criticise it over here, Ms. Smith, so that you think that this i s a bad thing and—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s right!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —in the meantime, we are going to be setting up our operation to be able to take all of the benefits of this. [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And how do I know that this is the case, Mr. Speaker?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch In this current Throne Speech. And I . . . I . . . I . . . Let me decree and declare something else, because people get confused. I do read t he Royal Gazett e. I do not read it on the day it is published, because I …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And I do not buy it. People save them for me. But I read them all and I read them in s equence. So, right now, I am about a week behind. But what I do know, Mr. Speaker, is that when the Royal Gazette criticises —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burc h —and writes the same narrative that we are getting from the other side, but yet, i n the same newspaper they are publishing the incorporations of FinTech companies . . . so, they know they are lying to you. They know, not from no one else’s vault. They know from …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Correct.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —that what they are saying is not correct. And so, what I am saying, Mr. Speaker, that when you hear . . . and I do not necessarily read the online newspaper, because I am old- fashioned. I need to have the paper. And so therefore, I do not see …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch So, because that is where they are, that is where they stay. And so normally that venom is directed toward people on this side. But if one person who traditionally supports business puts one toe—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh, yeah.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —in suppor t of the . . . they come over the mountain after them. And for me it is incredibly entertaining, because the president of BF&M, who is also the president of the Chamber, got an almighty flogging for even suggesting that, Oh, the PLP might have put out …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Amen.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch There were people that raised me that told me from the cradle to adul thood, and even though many of them are no longer here, they are still with me. And whilst I sometimes stray from what some people think should be, you know, being nice to folk, I do …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch It is because we believe in a philosophy . We believe in the underlying fundamental principles that this party is founded on: justice, equality —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —care and concern for your neighbour, doing what is right for the people of this country. Some Hon. Member s: That is right.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I did not say black people.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is right.
Lt. Co l. Hon. David A. Burch Doing what is right for the people of this country — [Desk thumping]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And sometimes we cannot see it. Some Hon. Member s: That is right.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And sometimes you have to . . . it is just like cod liver oil. And parents used to make you take that stuff and, what was it? What was the commercial? Is it cod liver oil or broccoli? It tastes awful, but it . . . something— [Inaudible interjections …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Whatever it was. [Inaudible interjections ]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch They always tell you and they would use that line—
The Speaker The Speaker Cannot be healthy, right?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —that never made any sense to me.
The Speaker The Speaker Cannot be healthy. Yes.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch It is good for you. No! It tastes awful.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. It kept you well.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And so sometimes . . . and I can assure you, Mr. Speaker, that as long as I have a responsibility in this Parliament and in this Government, we will do what is the right thing to do.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is right.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch In spite of some of the challenges that we may face from people who suggest that we should be doing some things differently.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The book of promises. If it is not in here . . . and I am not saying that we will not do it. Because you have to be responsive to the changing circumstances that you face. But fundamentally, this i s the Bible! This is the Bible! This is …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And there is a process . And the process is . . . this is for five years. I heard a reporter on the news the other night, criticising the Government because we had not completed this platform in the last year. And I am not going to argue with …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Exactly.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch This is for the whole term. And I can tell you that from a Public Works point of view, you will see there is very little in here, there is very little in the Throne Speech. But I can assure you, that is not where we end. You do not …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. We will now recognise the Leader of the O pposition. Honourable Member, you have the floor. GATES BAY BEACH ACCESS CLARIFICATION Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I am not going to be long. I think enough has been said today. We have …
Mrs. Renee Ming Point of information, Mr. Speaker. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —to that beach.
The Speaker The Speaker Will take the point of information. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Point of information: no, no, no. No.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Point of order.
Mrs. Renee Ming Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Oops. You did say information, so let him continue on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. And I know that extensive consultation took place so that the public was aware. And yes, there were questions being asked about what is reasonable access. And St. Regis themselves set out to explain that …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Reasonable access. GRAND ATLANTIC Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Reasonable access, abs olutely. And also, I wanted to speak to the Grand A tlantic and the property there. And the question was about why possibly we did not get it completed. I can say this for a fact. By the time …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Certainly did not stop them. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The idea was to get that property moving. And I have said it before in this House as well. If you were not able to win the argument before about the fact that the bank was falling down, that does not …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 111 Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member, I think maybe mistakenly, is misleading the House. When he said that, you know, it is up to us to inform people …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was not the OBA. But so be it. It was not the OBA. But so be it. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So . . . so—
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. Continue on. Continue on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Mr. Speaker? So, Mr. Speaker, that was where I left it. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A point of order, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member said it was not the OBA. I have tabled this. …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, continue, continue. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have been down that road. We are talking about the debate that took place over whether or not it should be done. And all kinds of things were said about the airport. All kinds of things are still …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member When you say “white” horse they could be offended. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yeah, absolutely. He is going to be offended. He is going to be offended. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue to speak this way. Speak this way. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, Mr. Speaker, I recognise that in the cut and thrust of all of what is going on, it is beholden upon us when we see something good to speak to it. But it also is beholden upon …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member [It’s] $5 million worth of leadership. Hon. L. Craig Ca nnonier: Yes, $5 million. And we are still trying to sort out the $42 million.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, I am glad that the Honourable Member who is in charge of Public Works has the opportunity to fulfil — [Inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Members! Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —that mandate over there from Grand Atlantic, $42 million, which if you do square footage and work it out, is not low -cost housing. So, I am glad that he has the opportunity to do something about this property. But to insinuate, Mr. Speaker, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Do not tell lies. Do not tell lies. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: That is the truth. It did not happen.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He said it himself. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: He did. Put it out to tender. You did not go for it.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ooh! Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: You said it! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes. Let him finish. Let him finish. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, you are not giving me a break. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I am going to try and make sure that I give you a break as well. So, Mr. Speaker, I am …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Still watching your back? [Laughter and inaudible interjections ] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And I will always watch my back, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So Mr. Speaker, I hope that I am the last speaker. [Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: We have missed the game now. But …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . We now recognise the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. PLP MANDATE Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Some comments just to conclude the night. It is late. It has been an interesting day. Certainly, the motion to adjourn was an …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It started famously. Hon. Walter H. Roban: And it did start quite famously. And it is very interesting, Mr. Speaker. Because this is the first meeting of the House, to some degree, since a certain journey commenced and concluded on that side, very much in the public arena. So, it …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: In fact, arguably, I would say it has. Because we are historically the most succes sful political party this country has ever seen. We have come back with the largest majority ever seen by a party in this country. All right? The only other time …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. No further Members wish to speak. The House stands adjourned until Friday next, the 23 rd of November at 10:00 am. [Gavel] [At 9:32 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 23 November 2018.]
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