The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Okay, so you combined the two? Good. Members, we are just going to seek your i ndulgence at the moment. The Junior Minister of F inance wants to table a report that should be associated with a Statement that is coming from the Minister of Finance. With the …
Thank you. Okay, so you combined the two? Good. Members, we are just going to seek your i ndulgence at the moment. The Junior Minister of F inance wants to table a report that should be associated with a Statement that is coming from the Minister of Finance. With the House’s indulgence, could you just table that at this time?
TAX REFORM COMMISSION REPORT 2018 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I appreciate what you have done. I also appreciate the House for allowing the Ministry to lay this report. Mr. Speak er, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Tax Reform Commission report that was done for 2018. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTER S AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe have a number of Statements this morning. I am appreciative of Ministers who have indicated they may carry theirs over; there are a couple, I believe. We will deal with that when we get to it. So, we are appreciative of that. But the first Statement this morning is …
We have a number of Statements this morning. I am appreciative of Ministers who have indicated they may carry theirs over; there are a couple, I believe. We will deal with that when we get to it. So, we are appreciative of that. But the first Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Finance, who, as we all know, is with the Premier, stuck in the US in the snowstorm. So, Junior Minister. That should be being circulated.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad to read this Statement on behalf of the Mini ster, the Honourable Curtis L. Dickinson.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to advise this Honourable House and the public —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJunior Minist er, hold off. The delay is partly my responsibility, in that we were going to carry this over, being that the Mini ster was held over. But we decided the Junior Minister can deliver the Statement and the report. So, it did not get circulated earlier; it is …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIt is coming. It is coming now. [Pause] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHold off. Hold off one second. Just hold off one second. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Here it is coming now.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWhat we may do is . . . the others are all circulated. So, while this is being circulated . . . I am going to let the Clerk and the Sergeant -at-Arms go ahead and circulate it. The Minister of Health, would you mind doing your Statement now , …
What we may do is . . . the others are all circulated. So, while this is being circulated . . . I am going to let the Clerk and the Sergeant -at-Arms go ahead and circulate it. The Minister of Health, would you mind doing your Statement now , while this is being circulated? We will come back to yours afterwards.
PROTECTION OF PERSONS IN CARE
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to provide for this Honourable House and the listening public highlights and updates on the actions that the Ministry of Health is taking to ensure the health, safety and well -being of persons in care. Mr. Speaker, this G overnm ent is committed to ensuring that persons in care , including seniors and persons with disabilities, are protected from harm. The Ministry, through the Ageing and Disability Services [ADS] , has taken strides in 2018 to improve how we operate to fulfil our protection and support roles. We have also moved forward key initiatives that help in the prevention, detection and addressing of abuse in care homes. On average, each month, ADS receives three complai nts of senior abuse and three complaints r egarding care homes. We have been working hard not only to improve our responses to these complaints , but also to ensure that preventative methods are in place. You may have heard of the two recent cases before the courts regarding allegations of care home staff harming residents. Ageing and Disability Servic es was on top of these incidents and worked with the care homes, police and families to ensure that protection and appropriate remedial actions occurred. Mr. Speaker, prevention is always better than react ion in such circumstances. A key preventative step that the Ministry took was the creation of service standards for registered care homes. Building on the legislative changes in 2017 that strengthened the regulation of care homes, a code of practice was pubOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 9
Bermuda House of Assembly lished and applies to the 21 regulated care homes , with nearly 400 residents. Mr. Speaker, the 2018 Code of Practice, which can be located on www.gov.bm , is the first set of comprehensive standards to embrace quality of life and care, and includes a new Bill of Rights for Persons in Care. We are still in t he implementation phase of the c ode and have completed the first round of i nspections to see where homes s tand and what is needed to improve. Central to the success of the code, improved care and protection are education and training. A new role was introduced this fall in ADS of an education officer. The education officer will provide and organis e training for care home staff on the c ode and priority areas identified in need of improvement. Protecting people in care, Mr. Speaker, i ncludes those living in their own homes in the comm unity who need support. Ageing and Disability Services is strengthening our support systems to improve case management and abuse investigation services. By January of 2019, ADS will have two new case managers , bringing the total up to four, with a range of responsibilities from basic client support to crisi s intervention. In addition, to help manage this caseload and ensure consistent access to case management services and supports to their clients, ADS will also introduce walk-in hours. Mr. Speaker, effective December 1st, 2018, walk -in and intake hours will begin to improve client ac cess and office efficiency. From 10:00 am to 1:00 pm, clients will be ensured that a case manager will be onsite and able to see them during this period; and if they arrive or call outside of this time, they will be contacted by the office at the earliest opportunity. Other operational improvements for the office include the following: • the introduction of a new software program to improve case management and collect data to assist with future long- term-care system d esign and development, to go live in February 2019; • improved communication and coordination with the Bermuda Police Services for abuse investigations. Mr. Speaker, Ageing and Disability Services has been busy over the last year , and I want to acknowl edge their hard work. I also want to thank the public for their patience with our efforts to improve our ability to protect and support our clients and the community. In addition, I would like to acknowledge the care homes, caregivers, community organis ations, families and friends who all play an essent ial part in ensuring that persons with disabilities and seniors are respected and treated with dignity in our community. We must continue to work together to reach our vision of healthy people in healthy communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Junior Minister. TAX REFORM COMMISSION REPORT 2018 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, I am standing in on behalf of the Minister, the Honourable Curtis L. Dickinson, in regard to this Statement. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to advise …
Thank you, Minister. Junior Minister.
TAX REFORM COMMISSION REPORT 2018 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, I am standing in on behalf of the Minister, the Honourable Curtis L. Dickinson, in regard to this Statement. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to advise this Honourable House and the public of the Report of the Tax Reform Commission , which was tabled in this Honourable House earlier today. Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members will recall , in the 2017 Throne Speech, this Government commi tted to creating a Tax Reform Commission, and as a result, the Tax Reform Commission was formed under the Tax Reform Commission Act 2017. The purpose of the Commission was to conduct a review of Bermuda’s system of taxation and revenue collection, and make recommendations on tax reform to Parliament. More specifically, the Tax Reform Commi ssion was given the following mandate by the Minister of Finance: • examine Bermuda’s tax system , and determine any measures that may be taken to best enable a system of taxation and revenue collection that is equitable, effective, efficient, competitive and transparent; • increase public sector revenue yield fr om 17 per cent of GDP to a minimum of 20 per cent to 22 per cent of GDP; and • prepare and submit a report and recommendations in accordance with section 7 of the Tax Reform Act . A seven- member team was assembled in order for the Commission to be able to car ry out its duties. T he names of these members are: Chairman, Mr. Ronald Simmons, a Partner at Moore Stephens & Butterfield, Chartered Professional Accountants ; yours truly, Honourable Wayne Furbert, JP, MP, Junior Mi nister of Finance; the Honourable Jeanne Atherden, JP, MP, Member of the Opposition; Donald Scott, former Secretary to the Cabinet, Head of the Civil Service and Financial Secretary; Mitch Blaser, COO of Ironshore Inc. and CEO of Ironshore Bermuda; Economist Craig Simmons; and, MJM Ltd. lawyer , Brian Holdipp. Over the past nine months , the Tax Reform Commission met , on average, twice a week , conduc ting extensive research and due diligence to understand what options were needed to moderni se Bermuda’s tax system and provide proposals for the administrative aid, which will be needed to support the recommendations contained within the Tax Reform Commission’s Report. As a result, the commission determined that if the proposed tax policy recommendations are implemented, an additional yield of ap-proximat ely $147 million could be generated over the 10 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly next two- to three- year period, increasing government revenue to approximately $1.26 billion, or 20 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP), by 2020, compared to 17 per cent of GDP in 2017. Some of the more substantive proposed recommendations put forward by the Commission include the following: • a progressive tax on commercial and residential rent als, yielding an additional $41 million in revenue; • introducing a general services tax, yielding $27.5 million in new revenue; • introducing a withholding tax on overseas services provided locally, yielding $27.5 million in new revenue; and • aligning company fees with a company’s assessed capital, yielding an additional $25.5 million in revenue. Mr. Speaker, the Government will closely evaluate and consider all recommendations included in the report , and, as per this Government’s normal custom and practice, the appropriate consultation with the various stakeholders will be conducted before any major changes are made to our tax system. Mr. Speaker, I would like to formally give a special thanks to all of the members of the Tax R eform Commission for all the work that went into producing this report , and to also thank all of the experts who provided technical support to the comm ission , such as the Customs Department; the Caribbean R egional Technical Assistance Centre (CARTAC) ; the Ministry of Finance; the Association of Bermuda I nsurers and Reinsurers (ABIR) ; the Association of Bermuda International Companies (ABIC); the Department of Statistics; and the 50- plus stakeholder groups, comprising over 500 individuals who attended these meetings . Also, Mr. Speaker, the c ommission is to be commended on the open and transparent manner in which it went about its business. Mr. Speaker, in closing, the Government looks forward to implementing the appropriate recommendations included in the report in order to assist the Government in meeting our fiscal targets and also to ensure that we fulfil our promise to provide a better and fairer Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Junior Minister. The next Statement is in the name of Minister Foggo. Minister Foggo, you have the floor. BERM UDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL ST ATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018 Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, under the Anti -Doping in Sport Act …
Thank you, Junior Minister. The next Statement is in the name of Minister Foggo. Minister Foggo, you have the floor.
BERM UDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL ST ATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018
Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, under the Anti -Doping in Sport Act 2011 (the Act) the Bermuda Sport Anti -Doping
Authority (the Authority) was established to give effect to the International Convention Against Doping in Sport of 2005, which came into force in Bermuda in June 2006. Prior to this, the Authority was set up as a charity and called the “Bermuda Council for Drug- Free Sport .” The Authority’s function is to facilitate the control and prevention of doping in sport and thereby en-able all athletes to compete on the international stage, in addition to providing sample collection services for many international sporting events brought to our shores, namely, the International Triathlon, World S eries Triathlon, the Bermuda Marathon and the Junior Caribbean Cycling Championships, just to name a few. This is done through a programme of educ ation and doping- control procedures, and results management. This includes following the World Anti - Doping Agency [WADA] standards to establish and implement the following: • comprehensive anti -doping rules which must adhere to the WADA c ode, international standards and many guidelines; • an extensive education progr amme for at hletes, athlete support personnel, administr ators, participants and the general public on anti-doping and the promotion of health, fai rness and equity in sport; • detailed protocols for results management; • detailed protocols for therapeutic use ex emptions; • research relevant to anti -doping; and • the development of an athlete testing pr ogramme, including the development of prot ocols governing the location and whereabouts of athletes , for the purpose of testing. Bermuda Sport Anti -Doping Authority conti nues to ensure that all athletes are tested under the illicit policy, a domestic programme, prior to representing our Island either locally or internationally. Mr. Speaker, the Act also establishes a board of the Authority, who shall m onitor the admini strative operations of the Authority; ensure that correct prot ocols are followed in the process of securing samples; ensure that the rights of everyone involved in the doping-control procedures are respected; and assist in ensuring that the Authority recei ves and manages funds in a prudent manner. Mr. Speaker, Section 17 of the Act also r equires the Authority to present to the Minister a report of its proceedings for the year, including the audited accounts, and for the Minister to lay the same within the House of Assembly, which was done today. Mr. Speaker, the Auditor General has signed off on the Financial Statements, stating that they pr esent a fair view of the Authority. I would like to take this opportunity to highlight a number of items from the r eport and audited accounts. The Authority conti nues to be fully compliant with the World Anti -Doping Agency requirements. Through their sample collec-tions at local sporting events and in partnership with other national anti -doping organisations from around Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 11
Bermuda House of Assembly the world, including Canada, Denmark, United Kingdom and United States, the Authority has been able to ensure that the testing requirements of both local and overseas -based Bermudian athletes have been fulfilled. Their educational initiatives continue to be of paramount importance, including providing advice to athletes and coaches on all aspects of the illicit and anti-doping programmes. Mr. Speaker, under the performanceenhancing programme, some 57 samples were taken for testing during the year, 51 ur ine and six blood. There were two adverse analytical findings, both of which related to foreign athletes who competed in Bermuda. There were three positive results under the illicit drug policy, where the substance in all three cases was THC. The Authority ’s international dopingcontrol partnership was expanded, with Mrs. Marionette Zuill, a doping- control officer, representing Bermuda at the 2017 World Youth Commonwealth Games in Nassau, Bahamas, in July. The Bahamas Anti-Doping Commission commended Mrs. Z uill on her expertise and teamwork. Mr. Speaker, the Authority’s revenue for the financial year is mainly made up of a grant of $650,000 from the Department of Youth, Sport and Recreation. Expenses include some $256,672 for the performance- enhancement testing programme, and $137,792 for the illicit -drug screening programme. Mr. Speaker, I would to thank the board under the chairmanship of Mr. Michael Smith, and the staff of the Agency under the leadership of the Chief Executive Officer, Ms. Deborah Hunt er, for their dedication and hard work during the year. With those words, Mr. Speaker, I thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Minister, would you like to do your second Statement in reference to the Workforce? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, M r. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Go ahead. UPDATES ON THE DEPARTMENT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMES Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Mr. Speaker, I am standing here to provide this Honourable House with an update on the various initiatives being undertaken by the D epartment of Workforce Development to assist and prepare individuals for the …
Thank you. Go ahead.
UPDATES ON THE DEPARTMENT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMES Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Mr. Speaker, I am standing here to provide this Honourable House with an update on the various initiatives being undertaken by the D epartment of Workforce Development to assist and prepare individuals for the world of work. The Depar tment of Workforce Development carries out t wo main operational functions, namely , career development and training. The Career Development Section pr ovides assessments, employment assistance and job readiness training, while the Training Section admini sters educational funding program mes, manages the apprenticeship and trainee programs and regulates certification standards in four designated occupational trades. Mr. Speaker, in 2008, the national certification legislation came into effect. In December 2017, the Train ing Section of the department began national certification in four specific occupations , as required by legislation. This required welders, electricians, automotive service technicians and landscape gardeners to register with the Department of Workforce Development , and participate in occ upational training and assessments in order to achieve the national certific ation designation. As of October 1, 2018, the number of regi strants for national certification total led 226 e lectri cians, 30 welders , 214 automotive service technicians and 575 landscape gardeners Mr. Speaker, t here has been a reputable shift in the number of Bermudians who achieved national certification since December 2017 in the four occupations , totalling 108 electricians , 15 welders , 143 automotive service technicians and 84 landscape gardeners. The remaining non- certified registrants are currently being assessed for approval by the Occupational Advisory Committee, as provided under the N ational Occupational Certification Act 2004. Mr. Speaker, t he Training Section has been diligently collaborating with the Department of Immigration to deliver an effective work permit policy with respect to national certification. This policy remains under review. However, this collaborative consultation process will ultimately result in ali gnment of the work permit policy with national certification to ensure (1) uniform advertising for positions that align with certification criteria , thus helping to level the playing field for Bermudians ; (2) certified Bermudians are given a fair chance at any positions in that certified trade; (3) employers demonstrate that they interviewed certified Bermudian workers prior to being able to apply for a work permit, and (4) potential guest workers demonstrate competency in their respective occupational trade that will satisfy Bermuda’s national certif ication requirements before a work permit is granted. Mr. Speaker, t he Training Section is also r esponsible for the establishment of apprenticeships. Apprenticeships combine full -time employment and training under a skilled journeyman and create a pathway for apprentices to acquire a qualification. Steady progress has been achieved, with a total of 47 apprentices and trainees registered with the Depar tment of Workforce Development as at October 1st, 2018. Benef its associated with the establishment of an apprenticeship programme include payroll tax waiver for the employer , and apprentices receive paid work experience while pursuing a trade qualification. Mr. Speaker, t he Training Section awards scholarships bas ed on Bermuda’s workforce needs, particularly in occupations of underrepresentation by Bermudians. Scholarships awarded to date include 42 students for overseas studies, total ling $385,000, of 12 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly which 29 were new and 13 are continuing students. Fifty-eight s tudents were awarded funding for Berm uda College studies total ling $170,000. Of these, 34 were new and 24 were continuing awards. Mr. Speaker, t he Training Section is currently expanding the apprenticeship and training schemes. To this aim , they have begun engaging employers to better understand their needs , and how to increase apprenticeship and training opportunities for Bermudians. As a result of collaborating with employers, five new companies have signed agreements with the department to train Bermudians in the field of medical coding and billing, computer programming, plumbing, air-conditioning and refrigeration, and heavy equi pment operators. Additionally, efforts to assist employers by providing support to train their existing Berm udian staff for c areer progress within their respective companies are also underway. The intent is to encourage career advancement and increased entry - level opportunities for Bermudians. Mr. Speaker, t he Career Development Section prepares and supports individuals for work placement, particularly the vulnerable population group. Currently, a total of 1,452 persons are registered with the department as either unemployed or seeking alternative employment. Of the total persons registered, 360 r eceived career development serv ices during the fivemonth period May to September 2018. These services were varied and comprised interest and skill asses sments, r ésumé development, employability training workshops, job search assistance, career guidance and case management towards job r eadiness. However, after receiving these services, only 50 individ uals actually provided feedback of their success in find-ing employment in areas such as compliance, hospitality, construction and cleaning. Recently, Mr. Speaker, the department has hosted an event in the West End community. There were general workshops on Understanding What E mployers Want: Employability Skills, Your Online Image and Employment, and Interview Skills: Winning over the Recruiter . Participants also had the opportunity to visit breakout stations and consult one- on-one with professionals on r ésumé development and cri tique, Bermuda Job Board registration, job leads and future opportunities, national certification, apprenticeships , Bermuda College program mes, and funding. Mr. Speaker, t here has been significant follow-up with persons who attended the event in the west, assisting them with creating profiles on the Bermuda Job Board and arranging to meet further with staff to help them reach their career goals. Three more events of this nature are planned across the I sland between January and March of 2019, taking the department’s services to the community , Mr. Speaker . This will allow the department to capture details on persons who are unemployed, but who would not ordinarily come into the d epartment to receive services. It is also an opportunity to increase awareness about the department’s services and empower individuals and equip them with strategies to obtain their employment and career goals. As a requirement of the 2015 Work Permit Policy, the Career Development Section received r equests for referrals relating to 285 positions which were restricted jobs since May 2018. There were 174 suitable candidates referred and 62 hires during the same period. Currently, the referral process for restricted jobs is executed manually. In an effort to increase eff iciency and shift to a paperless work environment, the department plans to adopt a fully electronic referral system by December 2018, utili sing the Bermuda Job Board. The electronic job board will be upgraded to encourage and solicit constructive feedback from employers who consider or hire applicants through referrals from the department. The feedback on individuals who were not hired is vital to address any development areas applic ants may have, and subsequently design development plans to position persons with the requisite skill s set for future employment. Mr. Speaker, presently there are 14,137 applicants registered on the Bermuda Job Board, 2,053 employers and 225 jobs posted. Since March 2016, there have been 2,204 hires through the Bermuda Job Board, consisting of 962 in 2016. There were 739 in 2017 and 503 in 2018, to date. The Career Development Section regularly facilitates and offers employability skills workshops in the department’s training room , to equip job seekers with the tools necessary for employment success. Since May 2018, only 59 persons participated in specialis ed workshops , such as interview skills, r ésumé development and self -presentation skills. The low attendance is primarily attributed to “no-shows ” and low registration, Mr. Speaker. Recognis ing the importance of marketable work skills, employers and human resource professionals have consistently indicated the need for appl icants to develop and strengthen their soft skills and life skills. These are critical characteristics needed for employee hiring and retention in the workplace, apart from the requisite technical skills. As such, the Career Development Section plans to expand its offerings of employabil ity skills training to include online and evening courses in community clubs, churches and schools. The department is presently working on a public relations campaign to increase awareness of the department’s services and the advantages of being registered as a client. It is the intent to continue to collaborate with the Department of Communications to develop a marketing strategy that will support and drive the work of the department. This strategy will focus on greater visibility , and engagement with employers and the community through outreach, satellite training, i ncreased education and awareness, career fairs, town hall meetings and social media campaigns. A m arketOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 13
Bermuda House of Assembly ing strategy will be completed in December 2018 for immediate implementation. Much of thi s work is aligned with the National Workforce Development Plan, which the department intends to progress further as we continue to improve internal processes.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: The Department of Workforce Development will continue to assist and prepare persons for the world of work. The public relations strat egy will support and drive the initiatives being undertaken by the department.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, we should only hear one voice. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Once again, Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure at this time to have the opportunity to update this Honourable House about the progress within the Department of Workforce Development . Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Minister Brown, would you like to put your Statement? Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE Hon. Walton Brown: Honourable Members will already know that the Bermuda Government is the I sland’s largest employer, and its workforce demographic is reflective of the wider society. That is, the wor kforce is ageing and there are skills shortages in key …
Thank you.
SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE
Hon. Walton Brown: Honourable Members will already know that the Bermuda Government is the I sland’s largest employer, and its workforce demographic is reflective of the wider society. That is, the wor kforce is ageing and there are skills shortages in key areas of the service. Mr. Speaker, as Bermuda’s largest employer, this Government is focused on developing its talent pool. We are committed to the training and development of all government officers, and succession planning in the public sector is fundamental to the sustai nability of the delivery of public services. Mr. Speaker, as at September 30th, 2018, there were 4,630 persons employed in the public service. An earlier report indicates that the number of non-Bermudians in permanent positions total led 204, and of this number, 148 positions are deemed “ hardto-fill.” Posts are considered hard- to-fill either due to the lack of available, qualified Bermudians or, in some cases, due to a worldwide shortage of qualified r esources. What’s more, Mr. Speaker, according to the Government’s Retirement by Age report, as at Oct ober 1st, 2018, there are 1,181 employees who will have reached the minimum eligible retirement age of 60 in the next five years, and 515 of those individuals will attain the current mandatory retirement age of 65. The combination of an ageing workforce and resource limitations in certain areas of specialisation reinforces the need for the Government to place particular emphasis on succession planning. Mr. Speaker, the aim is to identify and develop leaders within the service at both technical and professional levels who are ready and available to fill key roles in the future. Mr. Speaker, to be clear, this is not a process of pre- selection wherein any one person is intended to assume a job once an incumbent is no longer avail able to fill the role either through retirement or termination of contract. Instead, we have committed to i mplementing a programme to assess the potential of our existing talent and strengthen the entire talent pipeline. Resultantly, Government has put in place a Succession Planning Framework to support a consistent approach across the organisation. Mr. Speaker, the objective of the Succession Planning Framework is to ensure that the right people are in the right jobs at the right times to fill positions that are deemed critical, or key. The framework comprises seven steps: Step 1. Identify critical positions. Without these roles, government departments will not be able to effectively meet their business objectives. Info rmation on positions is currently being collected, using a customised post questionnaire in the Government’s Human Resource Information Management System. Step 2. Identify competencies. Mr. Speaker, knowledge, skills and abilities are essential for successful performance. They are important for guiding personal/individualised development plans, setting clear performance expectations and assessing performance. The post -questionnaire requires the ident ification of competencies for each position. Step 3. The identification of succession management strategies. Such strategies include the following: • developing internal talent pools for highpotential employees; • employee development which allows individ uals to express interest in leadership roles, c areer advancement, or lateral moves; • retention and engagement, which provides employees the opportunity to develop in ways that stretch their capabilities, challenges and engages them; • knowledge transfer that will enhance the or ientation of persons coming into the role and ensure that employees in key positions do not leave with critical knowledge; and • recruitment and selection, as time may be li mited to build a talent pool . Step 4. Requires the documentation and i mplementation of succession plans. Mr. Speaker, eac h 14 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly critical position will require the development of a succession plan. The plan will document the agreed succession management strategy to hire for the position and prepare for future vacancies. Step 5. Involves assessing an employee’s performance/potential. This will require managers to review employee performance, using performance management tools such as annual appraisals, personal/individualised development plans and any other agreed- upon assessments that will uncover potential. Steps 6 and 7. Requir es the identification of candidates. That is, the results of the employee poten-tial will determine which individuals should be ident ified for succession planning. While step 7 is evaluating the effectiveness of the succession planning pr ocess to ensure suc cess, where adjustments are necessary to move towards successful outcomes, they will be made. Mr. Speaker, whilst the Government will take a more proactive and organised approach to succes-sion planning, we will continue to administer existing programmes designed to prepare talent to take on progressively responsible roles in the public service. As at November 5 th, 2018, there were 17 Bermudians on the Public Service Commission’s (PSC) develop-ment plan status report. Employees are included on this status r eport because department heads have committed to developing Bermudians. The depar tments are required to submit the development plans to the PSC for review, to ensure the individuals’ development is on track and to ensure any challenges are addressed early. Of the 17 Bermudians, 12 are being developed for positions deemed difficult to fill and/or held by non- Bermudians. Eight of the twelve are trainees enrolled in the Professional and Technical Trainee Scheme. The remaining five are Bermudian employees who were approved for appointment to positions during this year, as these officers demonstrated, through the recruitment process, that they meet the majority of the experience requirements for the post, but need some continued development to ensure that they w ill be successful. Mr. Speaker, this Professional and Technical Trainee Scheme provides Bermudians with the oppor-tunity to obtain qualifications and/or work -related experiences, which enables them to fill professional and technical positions within the public service that are difficult to fill and/or held by contract officers. Trainees receive both practical work -related experience and specific academic experiences locally and overseas. Mr. Speaker, the Government is actively wor king towards building capacity in the public service through the implementation of a strategic succession planning framework to meet the needs of a futureforward Government for the people of Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER
HOUSE VISITORS The Spe aker: Thank you, Minister. Before we call on the next Minister to give his Statement, I would just like to acknowledge that in our Gallery today, in the inner chamber here, we have former Speaker Horton visiting us this morning. And we also have the Senator Jones, and I believe it is the Opposition Senate Leader, Kempe, in the Gallery, as well. Welcome to the Chambers this morning.
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe now call on the Minister of Educ ation. BERMUDA COLLEGE 2017 –2018 ANNUAL REPORT Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, this morning I am pleased to rise before this Honourable House to table the 2017– 2018 Annual Report of Bermuda College …
We now call on the Minister of Educ ation.
BERMUDA COLLEGE 2017 –2018 ANNUAL REPORT
Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, this morning I am pleased to rise before this Honourable House to table the 2017– 2018 Annual Report of Bermuda College , as required under Section 8(2) of the Bermuda College Act 1974. Under the authority of the Act, the Bermuda College Board of Governors provides general management and admi nistrative leadership to the college. The president and the staff of the college are responsible for bringing the goals, direction and approved policies of the board into action. These undertakings are reflected in the annual report and will be supported by the 2017– 2018 audited financial statements, once completed by the Office of the Auditor General, which will be tabled at a later date. The Office of the Auditor General is cur-rently working on the 2016– 2017 statements. Mr. Speaker, this has been a year of achievement and transition for the Bermuda College. Its 10 -year strategic plan concluded with a number of accomplishments, including its institutional accredit ation, the establishment of partnerships to provide bac-calaureate and gr aduate degree programmes in bus iness and education; partnerships with institutions in the United Kingdom; the establishment of the nursing programme; expansion of the dual enrolment pr ogramme; and an upgrade to its technology and facil ities, to name a few. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda College anticipates continued success as it looks towards the next five years under the guidance of its board. Certainly, global changes in technology, emergent industries, access to more learning options, and new student groups r equire that the college continues to evolve and trans iOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 15
Bermuda House of Assembly tion proactively to this new landscape of pioneering change. In this vein, preparation for a new five- year strategic plan, Vision 2023, began in earnest last O ctober. Mr. Speaker, as critical as this adaptation is for the college to meet these new opportunities, it is equally critical that, as a country, we assist in provi ding Bermudian students equal access to higher lear ning opportunities and career success, whenever pos-sible. No student should be deni ed access because of lack of financial resources. The government grant of $300,000 instituted last summer proved to be a gamechanger for many students to begin or continue pursuit of higher education, with 189 students assisted in the fall semester and 124 assisted in the spring s emester. Mr. Speaker, the college recorded an increase in male students directly related to the presence of dual-enrolled students in the Certificate in Applied Science programme housed at the Technical Educ ation Centre, which s aw its enrolment increase from 21 to 41 in fall 2017, as a result of the second cohort of students joining the programme. It also saw a record number of graduates as a result of increases in graduate numbers from business and hospitality pr ogrammes. During its 2017 commencement, the college graduated the first dual enrolment student from the Culinary Arts programme, and the first cohort of students from Miami University’s Master’s in Special Education programme, offered through Bermuda College. Mr. Speaker, the college continues to seek to diversify its revenue and seek out independent rev enue streams so that it will not be so reliant on government funding. During the past year, final prepar ations for the establishment of the Bermuda College Foundation continued with the approval of a Mem orandum of Association for the incorporation of the foundation as a company limited by guarantee, along with draft by -laws. Mr. Speaker, in response to the high demand for health care professionals globally and here in Bermuda, the Bermuda College established a new Division of Nursing and Allied Health at the college this past year. The first new associate degree pr ogramme in the division will be the Associate’s in PreHealth Science, which is expected to be on offer for fall 2019. Mr. Speaker, student success underscores all pedagogical strategies and initiatives at the college. Student success stories are many and varied. The college’s first nursing graduate of the Associate’s in Science (Nursing) programme, Ms. Josephi ne Bean, RN, is now working in the Post -Anaesthetic Care Unit (PACU) of the hospital. Two other nursing graduates, Janai Caldwell and Waleed Lightbourne, are continuing their undergraduate studies towards their Bachelor of Science in Psychiatric Nursing at the University of Northampton, in the UK, on full scholarships from the Bermuda Hospitals Board. Mr. Speaker, culinary arts students were featured on the popular BBC World News Travel Show; and applied technology students hosted a series of “Walk -in Wednesday” public presentations to showcase their projects, which ranged from network secur ity to app development. Environmental science st udents participated in a Greenrock project, earning one student, KyAsia Scott -Fishenden top prize and a trip to Portugal to attend a UNESCO conference on sustainable education. Students in the Literary Analysis class participated in a writing project with the Wes tgate Correctional Facility, and 14 students were sponsored to attend the Insurance Linked Securities Convergence conference. Mr. Speaker, such is the calibre of learning and instruction at Bermuda College that it continues to be a very relevant institution for our students and our community. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda College continues to establish partnerships . . . [The audio recording ended before the Minister of E ducation completed the reading of his Statement.] [The audio recording resumed as the Minister of Public Works was in the process of reading his Statement.]
KINGS WHARF REHABILITATION
Lt. Col. Hon. Dav id A. Burch. . . by the UK firm , Mott Mac Donald, regarding the state of Kings Wharf . Deck problems and other deficiencies were clearly identified. At that time , the cost of fixing the wharf and terminal building was estimated at more than $20 mi llion. In spite of …
. . . by the UK firm , Mott Mac Donald, regarding the state of Kings Wharf . Deck problems and other deficiencies were clearly identified. At that time , the cost of fixing the wharf and terminal building was estimated at more than $20 mi llion. In spite of the produc tion of a 77- page report and recommendations, nothing was done. Mr. Speaker, in 2017, the Ministry commi ssioned an underwater inspecti on of 27 structures across the Island, as part of a wider plan to investigate the state of our infrastructure. The Kings Wharf was included, and the inspection showed obvious signs of additional structural problems that needed further i nvestigation. A conc rete expert, Stantec , of Halifax, N ova Scotia, was hired to evaluate the state of the actual concrete and rebar, and to recommend the best course of action. The conclusion was that 80 per cent of the rebar were [delaminated] , concrete was cracking and layers were separating. The visual inspection and laboratory testing showed that the actual concrete and rebar could not be salvaged. Additionally, since the building i s sitting on the deck s labs, it too will have to be demolished and rebuilt. Mr. Speaker, the net result is that the building and deck of Kings Wharf need to be completely rebuilt. The piles, however, are in good condi tion, so they will be reused. There is no immedi ate concern for ships berthing at Kings Wharf, as the lateral capacity of the 16 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly pier is not compromised. The dolphins require maint enance to prevent early corrosion, but are in good condition and will be addressed in the next phase. Obviously , construction needs to occur during the off - season, from November 2018 to April 2019. So, with t hat back ground, the Ministry initiated an accelerated repair/replacement program me in order to meet the critical deadline of April 2019. The window of opportunity to construct the new deck is from midNovember 2018 to March 2019, during the non- cruise - ship season. Mr. Speaker, in order to complete the project in such a short window and to avoid potential delays due to the current high demand for concrete on Island, a method of precast concrete slabs and beams will be utilis ed for 85 per cent of the work. Us ing pr ecast concrete will also increase the lifespan of the work, as low reactivity aggregates and fly ash (co mmonly used in Europe and North America, but not in Bermuda) will be added to the mix to minimise corr osion of the reinforcing steel and to preser ve the concrete. In order for the slabs to be available this month, the precast company needed to be contracted by the end of August. Due to this accelerated ti me frame, the d epartment recommended Precast Sy stems, Inc. , of New Jersey. They had previously supplied 25 concrete slabs to create a temporary pedestrian walkway atop the compromised deck at Kings Wharf earlier this year , following a competitive bidding process. The department also performed due diligence by inspecting the company’s processing plant , in March this year, and confirmed that the necessary quality control systems were in place. T he slabs arrived on time and were of a very high quality. Mr. Speaker, having already gone through a competitive bidding process , the department entered into direct negotiations with Precast Systems for the supply of the deck slabs and beams for the complete refurbishment project. The Ministry then explored ways to transport the slabs and associated supplies to the Island to meet the very tight timelines. An agr eement was struck with Bermuda International Shipping to transport a third of the supplies on three weekly sai lings. Once the cargo ship has been unloaded on Hamilton docks and has left the port , a barge will come alongside to collect the supplies for tran sport to Doc kyard, thereby avoiding unnecessary wear and tear on the roads. Mr. Speaker, in January 2019, the remaining two-thirds of the shipment, which includes the slabs, will be transported to Bermuda on a cargo ship chartered specifically for this purpose, and unloaded direc tly in the [ Royal Naval ] Dockyard at the wharf adjacent to the cement silos. This proposed approach meets the demands of the construction schedule and results in a savings of approximately $400,000 in transportation costs alone. In August, experienced contracting companies were invited to bid on the project to demolish the exis t-ing building and concrete deck, and construct the new deck. The construction of a replacement deck will be done, using the precast concrete beams and slabs , along with contractor -supplied in- situ concrete, onto the existing steel piles. Mr. Speaker, six local companies and one overseas company expressed interest in bidding on the project ; however, only two local companies and the overseas one submitted bids. The lowest bidder, at $2.97 million, a Bermudian company, was awarded the contract in September. To expand the life expectancy of the wharf , a number of other actions will be implemented during the construction process . Usually , for long- term corrosion pr otection, one of the following elements would be included in the design: fly ash, c athodic protection, corrosion inhibitor and low -reactivity aggregates. In this case, we are using all of those. Strict quality control will be employed on- and off-site by an independent lab. Top-of-the-line 6,000 PSI concrete will be used. Corrosion inhibitor will be added to the concrete to make sure we will get the most durable concrete for our harsh environment. Cathodic protection will be added in critical locations to make sure we get a lifespan of at least 75 years for this new infrastructure. The new wharf will be built with proper loading to accommodate the next generation of cruise ships. Mr. Speaker, there is a possibility that the r eplacement terminal will not be fully completed by the start of the 2019 cruise ship season. A contingency plan to accommodate this eventuality is in place that will not delay the start of the cruise ship season. The original budget for these works was $20 million, but with savings on t he piles and the use of p recast slabs, our actual target price is in the region of $15 m illion, including contingencies. Mr. Speaker, finally, I am particularly pleased to announce that the project manager and director for this project is young Bermudian civil engineer, Ms. Carmen Trott. She was a trainee engineer with the Ministry a decade ago and subsequently left for the private sector. Since January of this year , Carmen has been seconded to the Ministry and will oversee the project to its conclusion. Works will commence tomorrow, Saturday , November 17th, and will rapidly gain speed as we move quickly to meet this critical time line. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. You will note on the Order Paper that the Mi nister also had a second Statement, which he has agreed to carry over for the time being. So, we thank you, Minister, for that. The next Statement is in the name of the Mi nister for Tourism, …
Thank you, Minister. You will note on the Order Paper that the Mi nister also had a second Statement, which he has agreed to carry over for the time being. So, we thank you, Minister, for that. The next Statement is in the name of the Mi nister for Tourism, Minister De Silva. You have the floor.
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Bermuda House of Assembly VACATION RENTALS
Hon. Zane J. S. De S ilva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this House will recall that the Throne Speech included a short section on the issue of tax relief for vacation r ental properties. I will now provide a detailed explanation of the reasons this Government will seek to amend the Tourism Inves tment Act , to implement a fair and equitable approach to the provision of tax relief on all vacation properties. Mr. Speaker, this House will understand that the tour ism sector and, more specifically , vacation accommodations, is an increasingly competitive market. Discerning tourists are driving this sector with an increasing demand for value across all available accommodations. In order to take advantage of the full cross section of tourist economics, destinations must offer a similar cross section of accommodations to suit tourists’ budgets. Mr. Speaker, this is about competition. As this Government recogni ses, Bermuda must be compet itive with other destinations. The tourism sector, which is a vital contributor to Bermuda’s economy, must be at the forefront of transitions and changes in the demographics and economics of our targeted audience. Mr. Speaker, the tourism sector i s in a constant state of flux, and it is true to say that if you snooze, you lose. This Government is committed to ensuring that Bermuda stays at the forefront of changes and transitions in the tourism sector. Ther efore, Government will seek to amend the T ourism I nvestment Act to remain competitive without penalis ing an important element of our available bed inventory. Mr. Speaker, the background to this matter started with the introduction of a v isitor fee on tourists who stay at v acation rentals , which is consistent with the visitor fee imposed on tourists who stay in our hotels. The v isitor fee does not directly affect the owners and operators of vacation rentals ; it will encourage more homeowners to invest and add beds to Berm uda’s inventory. I would also like to take this opportunity to reaffirm this Government’s commitment to minimal regulation of vacation rentals. And this brings me to another point, Mr. Speaker, the widely held misconception that the tax is directly on the owners of vacation rental s. I want to take this opportunity to dispel this misconception once and for all; this simply is not true. We seek to balance the need to protect our visitors who choose the vacation rental option, while avoiding red tape, bureaucr acy or other impediments that might deter Bermudians from entering into, or continuing on, this growing facet of our tourism economy . Mr. Speaker, in order to create an equitable marketplace, this Government has committed to develop options which allow some relief to be available to the owners of vacation rentals similar to that which is available to hotels. This Government understands that this is a complex subject, and it will undoubtedly require a consultation period with key stakeholders . However, Mr. Speaker, be assured that it is being driven by this Government’s recognition and desire for a fair er and more equitable approach on this matter. Mr. Speaker, some in the wider public audience may critici se this initiative because of a mi splaced conception that vacation rentals will remove affordable housing from the local market. To this , I would respond as follows: • first, a property under rent control cannot be placed into the v acation rental market if it di splaces renters; • second, Mr. Speaker, this House will recall that a new initiative was announced in the Throne Speech relating to Bermuda Housing Corporation and the construction of residences in the City of Hamilton, which will provide affordable one- and two- bedroom apartments for rent or purchase. Mr. Speaker, this will m eet the Government’s mandate of putting independent living within the reach of Bermuda’s young people who wish to purchase a home or seek independence by moving out of the family home. Mr. Speaker, I do not need to emphasis e the high priority that this Government has always had on the provision of affordable housing. The vacation rental initiative clearly upholds this Government’s support for all Bermudians. Mr. Speaker, another issue that some have subsequently raised concerns the possibility that the owners of vacation rentals may falsely claim tax relief on materials imported to Bermuda that do not end up in the vacation rental. To that , Mr. Speaker, I would respond that appropriate safeguards will be included in the Tourism Investment Act to ensure eligibility for the grant of tax relief. Following the consultation per iod, this Government will ensure that detailed and specific requirements will be implemented to prevent any potential for abuse of the tax relief system. On a broader level , Mr. Speaker , the realignment of the Tourism Investment Act , which this Government will now seek , is consistent with the “light touch” regulatory adjustment process , which has been adopted by this Government and which minimi ses unnecessary bureaucracy , with the intent of getting as many Bermudians as possible into the market. In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to state that I am honou red to be a member of a g overnment which is committed to creating a better and fairer Bermuda for all .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minis ter. And, similarly, on your Order Paper, there was a second Statement by the Minister, and he has agreed to have that carried over. So, I appreciate that, Minister. The last Statement this morning is that of the Minister of National Security, Minister Caines. 18 16 November …
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue. ROADSIDE SOBRIETY CHECKS Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to provide this Honourable House and the public with an update on roadside sobriety checks . The public will, undoubtedly, be aware of a Bermuda Police Service ongoing weekend presence at strategic locations in the central parishes. …
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ROADSIDE SOBRIETY CHECKS
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to provide this Honourable House and the public with an update on roadside sobriety checks . The public will, undoubtedly, be aware of a Bermuda Police Service ongoing weekend presence at strategic locations in the central parishes. Since its launch in mid -September, the Bermuda Police Service has carried out roadside sobriety checks on 11 occasions. Mr. Speaker, sobriety checkpoint locations have included Red Hole in Paget, Middle Road loc ations in Devonshire and in Paget, North Shore Road locations in Devonshire and in Pembroke, Crow Lane in Paget, South Roundabout in Paget, Marsh Folly Road in Devonshire, Palmetto Road in Devonshire, Rural Hill Road in Paget, Admi ralty House in Pembroke. Mr. Speaker, the locations of the checkpoints are strategic and assigned so that they are not easily avoidable. A location that falls within the parish is authorised by the Senior Magistrate and published in the official Gazette, and it is decided by the participating officers. These checkpoints differ from those f or many other police road operations, as each vehicle that comes upon the checkpoint location is stopped. The Bermuda Police Service estimates that as many as 100 vehicles are stopped per location. It is very likely that even some Honourable Members have been stopped at these checkpoints as they are travelling along Bermuda’s roads on weekends and evenings, and late into the night. Mr. Speaker, carrying out road sobriety chec kpoints is resource- intensive for the Bermuda Police Service. Each checkpoint is m anned by eight to fourteen officers. And there are sometimes more than one active checkpoint at a time. There even have been officers dedicated from the Road Policeman’s Unit, the Marine Unit, supported by Reserve Police personnel. And they all have been used to carry out the roadside sobriety checks. At each roadside sobriety checkpoint, there are officers performing in the road as the assessing officers. These officers will ask the stopped motorists where he or she has been travelling from. The motorist will be asked if he or she had consumed any alcohol. The assessing officer will also be determining if the motorist has any physical cues of alcohol consum ption, such as slurred speech, glazed eyes or the smell of intoxicants on their breath. Where any of these el ements are present, the driver admits alcohol consum ption, the motorist is then sent to a secondary officer. The secondary officer will perform a series of field tests that could include a demand for breath on the side of the road by a roadside sobriety testing device. To date, Mr. Speaker, 49 people have failed testing at the roadside sobriety testing device and have been arrested as a result. Each of those indivi duals has been transferred to the police station and gi ven the opportunity to take the alcohol analyser test. All of those tested have failed. Several have refused the additional test. All of the 49 arrested individuals were charged and are currently being processed through the court. Some of these individuals have already had a court appearance. And, as the public will know from the media, some have pled guilty, while others have given a not guilty plea and have elected to go to trial. Mr. Speaker, it should be noted that the roadside sobriety checkpoints initiative has likely influenced an uptick in the number of impaired driving arrests in 2018. Since January 1 st, 2018, there have been 243 arrests. In the same period last year, Mr. Speaker, there were 144 arrests. Mr. Speaker, the age of those arrested at the checkpoints has ranged from 20 to 65. In addition, 71 , or 35 of those arrested, have been Bermudians, along with several guest workers and visitors. At 85 per cent or 42 persons, the overwhelming majority of those who have failed the roadside sobriety [tests] and cons equently were arrested are men. This is particularly concerning, as men are the most likely to be the vi ctims of fatal road collisions. Mr. Speaker, I am aware that these chec kpoints may be considered intrusive and bothersome by some members of the public. However, in a country where the leading cause of premature death is road accidents, these checkpoints are a necessary inconvenience. I am hopeful that their continuance will lead to shifts in how Bermudians’ thought patterns and behaviour patterns are to the drink dr iving culture. If the roadside sobriety checkpoint initiative will stop just one person per weekend from driving and operating a v ehicle while under the influence of alcohol, I believe that the roadside sobriety checkpoints are worth the inconvenience. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. That brings us to the conclusion of Ministerial Statements this morning. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are no reports of committees this morning. QUESTION PERIOD
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are some nine Members who have indicated that they have questions for the Mini sters in regard to Statements this morning. And just to remind Members, this Question Period is a 60- minute period. So, the clock will start now. B ermuda House of Assembly And the first question …
There are some nine Members who have indicated that they have questions for the Mini sters in regard to Statements this morning. And just to remind Members, this Question Period is a 60- minute period. So, the clock will start now.
B ermuda House of Assembly And the first question will be in reference to the Junior Minister. You have a question from the Member from constituency 23. Member Gordon- Pamplin, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: REPORT OF THE TAX REFORM COMMISSION Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is a very brief one, just for clarity. Will the Minister indicate, or will the Junior Minister indicate whether there would be a written sign- off by the members of the commission? They are listed, but there is no signature to say that they sup-port the report that has been given. Are we going to have a report which shows that the members of the commission will sign off to show their support for the report?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. We can sort that out. I thought we did it, to be honest with you. But I will check that one.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Any supplementary? No supplementary, no further question. We will move on to the next Statement. The next Statement that there is an indication of a question is for the Minister of Health. And that Member who would like to ask the question is the same Member, from constituency …
Thank you. Any supplementary? No supplementary, no further question. We will move on to the next Statement. The next Statement that there is an indication of a question is for the Minister of Health. And that Member who would like to ask the question is the same Member, from constituency 23. Member, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: PROTECTION OF PERSONS IN CARE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I speak to the Minister’s reference to registered care homes. And I wonder if the Minister could let me know how many of the homes have been inspected, from the nursing homes, since July of 2017?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you for that question. There are 21 regulated care homes, with almost 400 residents. And actually, the Statement does refer to the fact that they have just completed the first round of inspection of all 21 of those homes. (I am just …
Thank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you for that question. There are 21 regulated care homes, with almost 400 residents. And actually, the Statement does refer to the fact that they have just completed the first round of inspection of all 21 of those homes. (I am just trying to find the page that speaks to that.) But they have just completed the inspection of all 21 homes. The Speaker: Thank you, Minister. Any supplementaries? Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: Do you have a supplementary? I have a second question. I have a second question, but I think my colleague had a supplementary.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Second question. QUESTION 2: PROTECTION OF PERSONS IN CARE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay. My second question is, Could the Minister indicate the kinds of observations that, in general, have been found from the inspections that have been carried out?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes. Thank you for that question. They do range. Fortunately, there has not been anything too significant. However, you have seen that they have had observations of, perhaps, inadequate food supply. When I say “inadequate,” I do not mean insufficient, but perhaps not …
Thank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes. Thank you for that question. They do range. Fortunately, there has not been anything too significant. However, you have seen that they have had observations of, perhaps, inadequate food supply. When I say “inadequate,” I do not mean insufficient, but perhaps not necessarily meeting proper nutritional values. They have seen some observations with respect to certain persons who . . . I will refer . . . actually, if I can just provide further information from my technical team with respect to that. I think the main point that I want to make is that, n otwithstanding that all 21 homes have been i nspected, fortunately there have not been any signif icant, alarming observations. And as I have indicated, we do now have an education officer who is working hand- in-hand with the homes to make sure that they are compliant with the codes, and if they have any questions that they need to work through. But I will get further details. But I can say that it is fortunate that there have not been any significant observations with respect to the health and safety of either the persons in the homes or the care homes.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? We will take a supplementary from the Honourable Member Jackson. Honourable Member from constituency 20, you have the floor. Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susa n E. Ja ck sonThank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. My question to the Minister is, Does that i nspection report include any identification or measuring 20 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly of capacity, or skills, to be able to meet the needs of, or the changing needs of, …
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Bermuda House of Assembly of capacity, or skills, to be able to meet the needs of, or the changing needs of, some of the clients in the homes? And what is being done to protect those who do have changing needs within the homes?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. With respect to the homes, there are, as we can appreciate, varying levels of care that are re-quired. Some nursing facilities have skilled care. And with that, there is a quota that needs to be established with respect to how …
Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. With respect to the homes, there are, as we can appreciate, varying levels of care that are re-quired. Some nursing facilities have skilled care. And with that, there is a quota that needs to be established with respect to how many patients versus how many staff, as well as the level of skilled care that the staff has. For example, they may require nurses because nurses are the only ones who can administer medications. However, there are some homes that do not require that same level of skill. So, the quota ins ofar as the ratio between staff and service providers is wider. However, part of that inspection does include, as well as the registration—it does include the number of staff, the qualifications of the staff. All of that is part of the inspection and is documented accordingly. And as I indicated, I am not sure if I answered the question t o the first Honourable Member, that the first round of inspections has been completed.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Any supplementary? Supplementary? We will take your supplementary. (Turn your microphone on.)
Ms. Susan E. JacksonAt what point, Minister, then, is a home required to provide those changes or additions to care and skill, based on their client popul ation? So, does the inspection report . . . if I am being specific, if I were to take a patient who has developed severe dementia, …
At what point, Minister, then, is a home required to provide those changes or additions to care and skill, based on their client popul ation? So, does the inspection report . . . if I am being specific, if I were to take a patient who has developed severe dementia, and there are some physical risks involved, is the inspection report going to identify that there is an acceleration in risk at the home? And is the home actually —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAh! Ah! Ah! [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Susan E. JacksonAnd is the home mandat ed to provide that additional skill in order to meet those needs?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When a home registers, they indicate the level of skill that this home is. If, unfortunat ely, a person’s medical condition changes where they require skilled nursing assistance, and the home does not provide that skill, …
Thank you, Member. Minister.
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When a home registers, they indicate the level of skill that this home is. If, unfortunat ely, a person’s medical condition changes where they require skilled nursing assistance, and the home does not provide that skill, then the patient will have to be transferred. But part of the registration includes the nature of the skill that this particular home will provide. Either it is specialised skill, i.e., where there are nurses where the medication can be provided, or, alternatively, if it is a less -skilled provision that is being provided by that particular care facility.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Any supplementaries or new question? New question? We will take . . . this is your third question, Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. QUESTION 3: PROTECTION OF PERSONS IN CARE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Minister could let the House know and the public know how many complaints have been registered? As she mentioned on page 2, there were r ecent complaints of elder abuse, which …
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QUESTION 3: PROTECTION OF PERSONS IN CARE
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Minister could let the House know and the public know how many complaints have been registered? As she mentioned on page 2, there were r ecent complaints of elder abuse, which is particularly egregious to all of us. How many complaints have actually been investigated to conclusion?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for that question. With respect to the recent data, there have been those two c omplaints that I spoke about that were all publicised. However, not all of the reports are substantiated. So, when there …
Thank you, Member. Minister.
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for that question. With respect to the recent data, there have been those two c omplaints that I spoke about that were all publicised. However, not all of the reports are substantiated. So, when there are reports that are filed with the department, many of them, upon the i nvestigation, they are either unsubstantiated comments that are made or reports that are made. Sometimes, there are challenges surrounding the establishment of sufficient evidence to proceed with an investigation. And/or, alternatively, sometimes there are, unfort unately, circumstances where the senior is not willing to pursue the investigation.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. I have a supplementary. Could the Honourable Minister advise us how many cases that we have that are outstanding that are Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 21 Bermuda House of Assembly still in the process of investigation that …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can say that all complaints are investigated to conclusion. And I will stand by to see if I can r eceive any information to confirm whether or not there are any cases that are actually still outstanding.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary or . . . You are fine? Good. That brings us to a conclusion on the questions in regard to the Minister of Health. The next Statement that Members have indicated that they have questions about is that for the Minister of Sport. Minister Foggo, you have …
Thank you. Supplementary or . . . You are fine? Good. That brings us to a conclusion on the questions in regard to the Minister of Health. The next Statement that Members have indicated that they have questions about is that for the Minister of Sport. Minister Foggo, you have a question I would like to put in regard to your Sports Anti -Doping Stat ement. And that is from the Member f rom constituency 31. Honourable Member Smith, would you like to put your question?
QUESTION 1: BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018
Mr. Ben SmithGood morning, and thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the Statement, it is discussed that there is a grant of $650,000. Is it possible for the Minister to let us know the last time this grant was assessed for ef-fectiveness, as this particular grant takes up most of the budget of …
Good morning, and thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the Statement, it is discussed that there is a grant of $650,000. Is it possible for the Minister to let us know the last time this grant was assessed for ef-fectiveness, as this particular grant takes up most of the budget of sport. Almost 50 per cent of the budget of spor t goes to this authority.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Yes. What I will basically say is that, as you can appreciate, Member, without an anti-doping regime, most of our athletes would not be allowed to participate overseas. And so, in answering that question, what I will say is that 39 per …
Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Yes. What I will basically say is that, as you can appreciate, Member, without an anti-doping regime, most of our athletes would not be allowed to participate overseas. And so, in answering that question, what I will say is that 39 per cent of the grant allocation goes to perfor mance- enhancing tests, to check that; 22 per cent of that grant goes to illicit testing; and 39 per cent of that grant goes to admi nistrat ion.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Ben SmithWell, just re -asking the same question because I am just asking if —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary then? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: And I will undertake to get a more specifi c answer to that question.
Mr. Ben SmithOkay. Thank you. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: But I thought you would appreciate the other facts.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSo, are you satisfied? [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNext quest ion. Does anyone else have a supplementary on that matter? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have a suppl ementary based on the Minister’s answer.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That 39 per cent is going to administrat ion. And my question to that 39, it is actually 40- plus per cent. It is 40.56 per cent that is going to administration. And the question is, Is that an equitable balance between the …
Yes.
SUPPLEMENTARY
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That 39 per cent is going to administrat ion. And my question to that 39, it is actually 40- plus per cent. It is 40.56 per cent that is going to administration. And the question is, Is that an equitable balance between the cost of administration and the con-duct of its mandate in respect of the anti -doping tes ting to conform with WADA [World Anti -Doping Agency] requir ements?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: There are strict . . . I basically have answered that question, saying that I will undertake to get further information. But, on top of that, there are strict international guidelines which require this authority to operate in a certain manner. And …
Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: There are strict . . . I basically have answered that question, saying that I will undertake to get further information. But, on top of that, there are strict international guidelines which require this authority to operate in a certain manner. And hence you will see why the expenses are broken down in the way that they are. You have to have a certain level of manpower. You have to have people trained to do certain tasks. And that training takes place every two years. So, if I can get more specifics on that for you, I will.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. This is your second question now?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on. 22 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018
Mr. Ben SmithThank you, Mr. Speaker. Just looking at the fact that there are 57 tests, which is costing us $256,000, t he reason I brought up the other sports is that if we are spending so much of our money on testing and not a lot of money on developing athletes, …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just looking at the fact that there are 57 tests, which is costing us $256,000, t he reason I brought up the other sports is that if we are spending so much of our money on testing and not a lot of money on developing athletes, how are we going to develop at hletes to test? So, we just need to have a better idea of what we are spending t his money on.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: The question does not pertain to the [Statement], and what is in here. And it was specifically about the financials and the anti -doping regime. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Ben SmithSo, Mr. Speaker, I guess my question is, how much is a test? If it is 57 tests, $256,000, it seems like we are spending a lot of money on these tests.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Go ahead. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: To test one individual, and if you are testing them overseas, it costs about $2,000.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWhat? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: If a test is conducted locally, that test is about $1,000. And I can say that many of our athletes operate overseas and live overseas. So, hence the task with financing some of those tests.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Supplementary? Okay. Yes, put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Ben SmithYes. So, I guess carrying on with this same line, what is the level of our athletes to warrant this level of testing? The reason [I] ask the question is, if we are paying this amount of money, do we have athletes of that calibre to continue to . . …
Yes. So, I guess carrying on with this same line, what is the level of our athletes to warrant this level of testing? The reason [I] ask the question is, if we are paying this amount of money, do we have athletes of that calibre to continue to . . . Do we have the statistics to show us that the amount that we are spending on it is in line with what other juris dictions at our level are paying?
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: In order for any athlete to perform overseas — [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAh! Ah! Ah! Ah! Wait, wait, wait, Minister. Members, the conversation is between the person who puts the question, the Member who puts the question to the Speaker, and the Minister to r espond. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: In order for any athlete to be …
Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Wait, wait, wait, Minister. Members, the conversation is between the person who puts the question, the Member who puts the question to the Speaker, and the Minister to r espond. Minister, you have the floor.
Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: In order for any athlete to be able to operate beyond this jurisdiction, they are subjected to this type of testing. The costs are the costs. And, certainly, we think it is important that our athletes be able to participate overseas to grow and enhance their skills as an athlete. So, thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Any supplementary? Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, I have a supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Minister indicated in her response that if a test is conducted overseas, it is $2,000, and if it is conducted locally it could be $1,000 per test. So, the question is, Why do we have $256,000 worth of tests for 57 samples …
Yes.
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Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Minister indicated in her response that if a test is conducted overseas, it is $2,000, and if it is conducted locally it could be $1,000 per test. So, the question is, Why do we have $256,000 worth of tests for 57 samples if, at $2,000 apiece, every one of them was an overseas test? That will come to $114,000. So, my question is, Where is the diff erential between the $114,000 and the $256,000 for only 57 tests, as articulated in the Minister’s Statement?
[Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I would think that that former Minister can appreciate how these allocations come about. And, as you know, there are the specific tests and whatever else is involved in paying people who are associated with doing these tests. …
Thank you. Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I would think that that former Minister can appreciate how these allocations come about. And, as you know, there are the specific tests and whatever else is involved in paying people who are associated with doing these tests. So, you know. And the number of tests that can be undertaken will vary from year to year and depending on what spor ting events are taking place. So, you are not going to get one specific figure, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 23 Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, the math just plain does not work. The Minister, based on her response, has indicated that tests could be $2,000 and that the numbers …
Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 23
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, the math just plain does not work. The Minister, based on her response, has indicated that tests could be $2,000 and that the numbers of tests would vary. Well, she has given us the number of tests being 57. Could the Minister explain why 57 tests costs us $256,600, which amounts to, if one averaged it, $4,503 per sample?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Mr. Speaker, I said that there are ancillary costs attached to testing. And I am not going to say anything beyond that.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Supplementary, yes. Can the Minister advise what the ancillary charges are in relation to the samples so that we can get some feel for why the cost has escalated to $4,500 per test, as articulated in her Statement?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I will undertake to seek those answers, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Supplementary or new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary. The S peaker: Supplementary on the supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Honourable Minister: I think we all appreciate the Honourable Minister providing information on what the ancillary costs are. And …
Thank you, Minister. Supplementary or new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary.
The S peaker: Supplementary on the supplementary.
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Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Honourable Minister: I think we all appreciate the Honourable Minister providing information on what the ancillary costs are. And at the same time, we would be appreciative if the Honourable Minister could provide some more detail. Because I have looked through the report quickly, which the Stat ement pertains to. And it does not say the quotas that have to be tested, who decides who is going to be tested and when they are going to be tested. And I think it would be important for us to have a better understanding of that, especially since it is not in the r eport. I think we all understand and appreciate that from year to year things coul d change, depending on the competition.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPut your question. Put your question. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: But if we could have an understanding of when and why, and the numbers to be tested.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I can undertake to do that.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNow, Member, you did indicate you had a question. Do you still want to put your question? Okay. We recognise the Member from constituency 10 with his question now. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Thank you, Mr. …
Now, Member, you did indicate you had a question. Do you still want to put your question? Okay. We recognise the Member from constituency 10 with his question now.
QUESTION 1: BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ANNUAL REPORT 2018
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the Ministerial Statement, it refers to the report and the number of tests. But if you look quickly at the report, Mr. Speaker, it jumps out at you that two of our national sports, football and cricket, are not i ncluded in the testing. And some of the other sports that have a frequency of testing, like rugby, basketball and volleyball, are not included in the report. So, the question to the Honourable Minister is, why are our national sports not covered by the local testing authority? And if they are not covered by the local testing authority, who pays for that test? Where does the money come from?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I will undertake to get those answers.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. No supplementary? No further question? We will move on to the next Statement. And the next Statement that Members have indicated they have questions . . . in fact, three Members have indi-cated t hat they have questions for this Statement. And that is the Statement from the …
Thank you. No supplementary? No further question? We will move on to the next Statement. And the next Statement that Members have indicated they have questions . . . in fact, three Members have indi-cated t hat they have questions for this Statement. And that is the Statement from the Minister Brown. And, Minister Brown, the first question to be put is in the name of the Opposition Leader, Honour able Member from constituency 12.
QUESTION 1: SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to everyone. Minister, I just want to ask a question. You mentioned over on page 2 about hard- to-fill positions posts. And then, two paragraphs down, you also mentioned the combination of an ageing workforce and the 24 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly limitations in certain areas of specialisation, where emphasis needed to be put on succession planning. I just wanted to find out if you could give us an idea of some of those areas of specialisation that we need to emphasise planning, in specific. It would be good to know.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Good morning. I do not have the specifics on those positions. I can undertake to get those positions for you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Are you satisfied? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: That is good. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. The next Member who has indicated that he has a question is the Member from constituency 8, Member Simons.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGo right ahead, Member. QUESTION 1: SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsMr. Speaker, succession planning always starts from the top. So, my question is, what succession planning framework do we have for the civil service executives? And do the civil service executives, the Cabinet Secretaries, the Assistant Secretaries, and the Director have a formal appraisal process? And who does it?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes, there is a formal appraisal process as undertaken by the Public Service Commi ssion. And there is a succession plan in place for all senior level civil servants, and that is underway.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary or new question? SUPPLE MENTARY
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsYes, Mr. Speaker, my supplementary on that . So, as this is an ongoing programme, who is actually leading this initiative of succession planning in the public service? And will that person who is leading it have performance targets? The Speaker: Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. This will …
Yes, Mr. Speaker, my supplementary on that . So, as this is an ongoing programme, who is actually leading this initiative of succession planning in the public service? And will that person who is leading it have performance targets? The Speaker: Thank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. This will be jointly led by the head of the civil service, as well as the Cabinet Secretary. And they have plans currently underway.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Thank you, Minister. There is als o a supplementary from the Honourable Member, Mrs. Atherden. You can put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, through you to the Minister: It is an indication that 17 Bermudians are on the Public Services Development …
Okay. Thank you, Minister. There is als o a supplementary from the Honourable Member, Mrs. Atherden. You can put your supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, through you to the Minister: It is an indication that 17 Bermudians are on the Public Services Development Plan Status Report. Is this something which is public anywhere so that people are aware of who is on this actual report, so that they can see the progress?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: That currently is not publicly available. However, I c an undertake to ensure that i t is publicly available, the list of 17 Bermudians.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerFurther supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: And is it possible? B ecause, to me, it is not just about knowing who is there, but progress report so that people can know how they are progressing. Is that possible, as well?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: In the spirit of full transparency, I can undertake to ensure that there are interim progress reports provided for those individuals.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Now, there was a supplementary indicated from the Member from constituency 23. [ Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerCovered it? Okay. I think the original asker of the questions would like to continue then. This is your second question. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 25 Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsYes. My second question is, Will the Minister be willing to table the Government’s retirement age report that was mentioned in his presentation, retirement by age report for the government civil service?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I will be happy to table that report.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsSupplementary. Does this report dovetail in any way with the Workforce Development Plan?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Walton Brown: Those reports were done at di fferent periods in time, so they do not necessarily dovetail with one another.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary or new question? Supplementary? Okay.
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsSo, will both plans be r eviewed so that we can get the best outcome?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Well, clearly, Mr. Speaker, that is obviously the intention. We will carefully review all plans to ensure that there is the best outcome on the way forward.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. More questions? Supplementaries? None. The next Member who indicated, Minister, that they had questions to put to you is the Member from constituency 20. Member Jackson, you have the floor, Honourable Member. QUESTION 1: SUCCESSION PLANNING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE
Ms. Susan E. JacksonGood morning. Minis ter, my question is, What is being done to safeguard those who are in the succession plan-ning pool from any external hiring of Bermudians who are somewhat parachuted into position?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Parachuted into pos ition in the civil service, you mean?
Ms. Susan E. JacksonYes. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. Well, that is a process that is developed by the Public Service Commission [PSC] in terms of the employment opportunities. And when jobs are made available, everyone is free to apply for those positions. And so, the PSC makes a decision based on who the …
Yes.
Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. Well, that is a process that is developed by the Public Service Commission [PSC] in terms of the employment opportunities. And when jobs are made available, everyone is free to apply for those positions. And so, the PSC makes a decision based on who the ideal applicant is. For those people who are earmarked for special consideration, those positions are earmarked for them. So, there are special protections provided for them.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I just have a supplementary.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary from the Member from 23. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister referred to the PSC and how they are looking at efficiencies and the like. The vex atious issue that has existed throughout perennial gov-ernments —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPut your question. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Is there any particular efficiencies that are being employed under this new regime to ensure that the PSC is operating eff iciently and timely?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: I think, Mr. Speaker, that there are always efforts being made that there are greater efficienci es in the delivery of the services of the Public Service Commission. That is an ongoing matter. And we review it constantly.
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThis is a supplementary. 26 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Supplementary from the Member from constituency 20. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. JacksonSo, I just want to clarify then. So, if someone has been identified in the succession planning, a position might be earmarked for them. But, at the same time, if an external Bermudian qualified for the same position, then that existing member of the government civil service would get the …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Walton Brown: Well, the position would not become really available until such time as the person is fully capable and qualified for that position. So, the position will not be advertised until such time as the person is fully capable of taking over that position.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary? We have a suppl ementary from the Honourable Member from constit uency 19. Honourable Member, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a supplementary, and this ties into my earlier question about whether the people who are on the succession plan …
Supplementary? We have a suppl ementary from the Honourable Member from constit uency 19. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
SUPPLEMENTARIES
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a supplementary, and this ties into my earlier question about whether the people who are on the succession plan list were sort of identified. Because sometimes it is better to have somebody come in from outside who can progress faster than having som ebody being developed slowly, internally, especially if there are some necessary expertise and experience. So that is why I just wondered—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPut the question. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Is the Minister . . . does the Public Service Commission look at what is outside before they make the decision on developing som ebody internally? Bermudians, Bermudians outside, before they make the decision on developing som eone internally to determine which one …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: The PSC considers all applic ations for positions and will make a decision based on the best possibility, the best alternative at that time.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Supplementary. The Speaker: Continue. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: And the reason I say, in terms of the succession planning, is because the ad-vertising does not come until such time as the position is ready to be filled. But if you are trying to …
Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Supplementary. The Speaker: Continue.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: And the reason I say, in terms of the succession planning, is because the ad-vertising does not come until such time as the position is ready to be filled. But if you are trying to develop people internally, that succession planning means that you should be looking outside to see if there is a Bermudian out there who would be better suited to go on the s uccession plan than an internal development. And is that being considered?
Hon. Walton Brown: Right.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Walton Brown: Well, no. Because the process of the identification of the qualified Bermudian inhouse has its own process. A nd so, the position is not going to be advertised until such time as that person is ready for that position.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have a suppl ementary.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe have a supplementary from the Member from c onstituency 23. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, things happen. People quit. People die. So the question is, just to elucidate on the comment by my honourable colleague, How are we looking at external Bermudians …
We have a supplementary from the Member from c onstituency 23.
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Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, things happen. People quit. People die. So the question is, just to elucidate on the comment by my honourable colleague, How are we looking at external Bermudians who are now working external to Bermuda to be able to ensure that they can be absorbed in the succession planning regime so that, if such an eventually happens, it does not wait until retirement, and so that that person can be brought into the mix for further consideration?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That person will be brought into the mix through an open process of advertising. And so, peo-ple can apply for any position that becomes available, except for the positions that have been earmarked for the intended persons.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. One more supplementary. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 27 Bermuda House of Assembly I think if the Minister had stopped before he said “except,” I think I would have accepted his answer. But what he is basically saying is …
Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. One more supplementary. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 27
Bermuda House of Assembly I think if the Minister had stopped before he said “except,” I think I would have accepted his answer. But what he is basically saying is that a position being earmarked for an individual, that individual can expect, reasonably expect, to fill that position. If the person has not yet been sufficiently trained and somebody else has come in, a Bermudian from outside, to fill that position, is the Minister, based on his answer, really saying that that Bermudian from outside coming in will not have an opportunity, because that position has been earmarked for the person who is standing in the queue, as it were? So, where does the excellence in training come in so that that scenario works well for everybody concerned?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Walton Brown: Well, it is very much akin to having an understudy. You have an understudy for a pos ition. And the position is something that the person moves up into that position. There is nothing untoward about it. It is part and parcel of the process.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I have a supplementary.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerBut you asked your supplementaries already. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I do not think so. I think I asked one.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOne? Okay. Your second supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you. To the Minister: In terms of determining who is going to get the understudy position, is there anything within the civil service where the range of people’s experience is identified? Because, sometimes, people are in a position A, …
One? Okay. Your second supplementary.
SUPPLEMENTARY
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you. To the Minister: In terms of determining who is going to get the understudy position, is there anything within the civil service where the range of people’s experience is identified? Because, sometimes, people are in a position A, but they came into the civil servic e with some other experience. And unless the civil service reviews all of the, if you will, expertise of their individuals, they run the risk of overlooking someone who could transfer into another position. So, is there any examination of the experienc e or the expertise of individuals before someone is chosen for understudy in the civil service?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Absolutely. There is a process of identifying the skill sets of individuals in the civil service who are eligible and suitable for being ident ified for promotion. And that is a rigorous process that is engaged in, and it is a process that works …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsMr. Speaker, I know, recently, there is a new PS [Permanent Secretary] who has just joined from private sector. Is the Minister indicating that that position arose and that gentleman got that position because there were no other qualified candidates within government who could take that job?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Speaker, I am not in a pos ition to answer that question.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAny fu rther supplementaries? Supplementary from the Honourable Member from constituency 20. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. JacksonYes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is there any formal documentation that a civil servant within the succession planning programme can, sort of, sign into so that there is some form of security around the earmarked position?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Walton Brown: As far as I am aware, there is no formal documentation in this regard. It is all done on the basis of identifying individuals and then prep-ping them for the position.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Any supplementary? No supplementaries, no further questions. That brings the questions regarding that particular Statement to a close. We will now move on to the next Statement for which Members have indicated that they have questions. And we have a question from the Member from constituency 8 to the …
Okay. Any supplementary? No supplementaries, no further questions. That brings the questions regarding that particular Statement to a close. We will now move on to the next Statement for which Members have indicated that they have questions. And we have a question from the Member from constituency 8 to the Minister of Education regarding your Statement on the Berm uda College. Member Simons, would you like to put your question?
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Bermuda House of Assembly [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, you are constituency 8. Yes. [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIt is to the Minister of Education. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA COLLEGE 2017 –2018 ANNUAL REPORT
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsOkay. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I note that the Minister has indicated that there will be established the Bermuda Col-lege Foundation. Can he provide more details on the purpose of the foundation and how the foundation i ntends to raise its capital?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Dia llo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I can endeavour to provide that information at a later date.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAt a later date. Thank you. Supplementary? You have a supplementary?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSecond question. Yes. QUESTION 2: BERMUDA COLLEGE 2017 –2018 ANNUAL REPORT
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsMr. Speaker, like this fall, I travel the Caribbean quite a bit. And I notice that the University of West Indies has campuses mostly throughout the Caribbean. Has the Bermuda College entertained the possibility of marketing the college to other Caribbean neighbours and friends so that we can get a …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank y ou, Mr. Speaker. Yes.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Any further question? Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsSupplementary. And when will that plan be effected, and how much in resources have we committed to ensuring its success?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, the explor ation of getting non- Bermudian persons to join Berm uda College is a continuing exercise. And when we do have people join the college from outside of Bermuda, announcements will be made at that point.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThat is it? Okay. The next Statement that Members have indicated they have a question for would be for the Mini ster of Works. Minister of Works, you have a question from the Honourable Member from constituency 7. Honourable Member Richards, you can put your question. QUESTION 1: KINGS WHARF …
That is it? Okay. The next Statement that Members have indicated they have a question for would be for the Mini ster of Works. Minister of Works, you have a question from the Honourable Member from constituency 7. Honourable Member Richards, you can put your question.
QUESTION 1: KINGS WHARF REHABILITATION
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Minister provide t he Honourable House the name of the Bermudian company awarded the contract in September to demolish and construct the new deck at Kings Wharf? That is on page 2 of his Statement, at the bottom.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Spe aker, I happily provide it, since they fell for the trap. It will be Crisson Construction, Ltd. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI would not necessarily say “trap.” It was information they were seeking. It was information. We are all here to find out information. Any supplementaries? No supplementary? No Supplementary. We will move on to the last Statement that has been indicated— [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers! Members, there is only one voice. [Inaudible inter jections] Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 29 Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Members! [Gavel]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIt is early in the session. Let us understand that is not going to be tolerated through the session. We will not be shouting and talking back and forth to each other. Come through the Speaker, and you will get your response. The next Member who has indicated that they …
It is early in the session. Let us understand that is not going to be tolerated through the session. We will not be shouting and talking back and forth to each other. Come through the Speaker, and you will get your response. The next Member who has indicated that they have a question is the Member from constituency 10. And that is in reference to the Minister of National S ecurity in regard to the road sobriety testing.
QUESTION 1: ROADSIDE SOBRIETY CHECKS Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Honourable Minister: First, I want to thank the BPS [Bermuda Police Service] for the work that they have done on this most worthy initiative. Honourable Minister, have you and the Bermuda Pol ice Service discussed any amendments to the legislation that governs roadside testing?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: I am actually not clear. If you can be more specific, that would be more helpful. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It is not a trap, it is just general information. Is there any discussion between you, as the Minister of National Security, and the …
Thank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: I am actually not clear. If you can be more specific, that would be more helpful. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It is not a trap, it is just general information. Is there any discussion between you, as the Minister of National Security, and the Bermuda Police Service in regard to any amendments to the current legislation that governs roadside sobri ety?
Hon. Wayne Caines : So, the Act is the Road Traffic Act 1947. There are a number of discussions that have been held in a number of successive convers ations. And that is why I am asking him to be more specific. Are we talking about roadside sobriety? Are we talking about —
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Roadside sobriety.
Hon. Wayne Caines: Hold on for a second. Hold on for a second, and go through the Speaker. Are we talking specifically just roadside sobr iety? That is the question, Mr. Speaker. I was not clear.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes.
Hon. Wayne Caines: We have not at this point.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes. Second question, really.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSecond question. Go ahead. QUESTION 2: ROADSIDE SOBRIETY CHECKS Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: In the Minister’s short Statement this morning, the Minister does outline where the checkpoints have been located over the past couple of weeks. And we know that they are all in the central part of the Island. …
Second question. Go ahead.
QUESTION 2: ROADSIDE SOBRIETY CHECKS
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: In the Minister’s short Statement this morning, the Minister does outline where the checkpoints have been located over the past couple of weeks. And we know that they are all in the central part of the Island. The Minister might not be able to answer this question, because the police are responsible for their operations. But it is curious to see, and I wonder why there are no checkpoints set up outside the centre of the Island, certainly when people, through their regular d ay and a weekend, are in the east and the west quite frequently. And I am just wondering if there will be a need for checkpoints to be expanded from the central parishes.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Eleven occasions, we started in September , Mr. Speaker. We have had the occasion to do this 11 times. And each time, there are over 100 people going through the checkpoints. This is som ething that we will not stop next week. This is an ongoing …
Minister.
Hon. Wayne Caines: Eleven occasions, we started in September , Mr. Speaker. We have had the occasion to do this 11 times. And each time, there are over 100 people going through the checkpoints. This is som ething that we will not stop next week. This is an ongoing process. So, I am happy to inform the House that the checkpoints will evolve. And once we evolve it, you will be seeing the checkpoints throughout the entire Island at different times and discriminate places.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Any supplementaries? No further question? That brings us to a close of the Question P eriod for today. And we will move on with the other matters on the Order Paper. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWould anyone like to speak on that matter? Any congratulatory [speeches]? We recognise the Honourable Member Richards from constituency 7. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will try and be as brief as I can. I would like condolences to …
Would anyone like to speak on that matter? Any congratulatory [speeches]? We recognise the Honourable Member Richards from constituency 7. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will try and be as brief as I can. I would like condolences to be sent to the family of Mr. Gilbert Darrell. Mr. Gilbert Darrell w as a very influential businessman in Bermuda. He started a number of businesses over his career, including Papa Darrell’s Grocery Store, Darrell and Seaman’s Gr ocery Store, Gilbert Darrell Equipment. He started the Bermuda Retail Grocers Association. He was Pres ident for 18 years of the Bermuda Container Line, Ltd. He had a very active political career, as most people 30 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly are aware. He went successfully as an Independent for Parliament in 1963. He won a seat as a PLP Member for Hamilton Parish in 1972 and becam e Leader of the National Liberal Party in 1984. So, a very, very influential man in Bermuda. He will be greatly missed. He was also a constituent of mine. Another constituent of mine who passed, a man who was ahead of his time, is Gershwyn [Charles Conway ] High Priest “Git” “Shiloh” Smith . Mr. Smith was a member of the Bermuda Young Progressives. He went for Parliament as an Independent a number of times, including against me in 2012. Mr. Smith emerged as a leader of the Devil’s Hole community back in 1969. He was a man ahead of his time. Shiloh lobbied the government to view marijuana as a medicine and not a drug. He was doing that for many, many years. And he dedicated his life to seeking justice, peace and reconciliation for Bermudians. Finally, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Neil Inchcup, Sr., another constituent of mine. He was a man who was also ahead of his time in a different way. “Inchy,” as he was called, as a self -made businessman who pi oneered gambling in Bermuda. In 1994, he began Freeport Bingo, which was broadcast on TV. It was very successful, but he was shut down at the time. Other ventures that Inchy started included long- line fishing, gambling machines and the casino ship, the Niobe Corinthian, who shut him down. The first bus iness that Mr. Inchcup star ted was a laundromat in the 1970s. And he also opened the new Freeport Restau-rant in Dockyard in 1993. I am going to miss Inchy. He used to call me to his office right there above The Spot restaurant. We would sit off and laugh. And he was a funny guy. I learned a lot from him. And, unfortunately, I found out about his passing—I was off- Island when he passed. And I had returned to the Island and did not realise he had passed until I was having a conversation with a mutual friend of ours in a bar. And he just let out, Yeah, I went to Inchy’s funeral. And I was completely shocked. So, definitely, I would like to associate the whole House, the whole House with the passing of Neil Inchcup, Sr., a man ahead of his time. And he will be greatly missed.
The Speake r: Thank you, Honourable Member. We recognise the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor.
Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to certainly be associated with the comments concerning Mr. Darrell. And I am certain that all Mem bers of the House would be associated with that, as Mr. Darrell was a long- serving Member of the House of Assembly and played a pivotal role poli tically in the formation of our constitutional arrange-ments. He was one of the attendees of the Constit ution Conference of 1966 and had, certainly, a relation-ship with the PLP for many years. Obviously, his poli tical activities evolved. But certainly not only would Members of this House associate ourselves with our condolences to his passing, many of us attended his funeral, but I can attribute a personal relationship with Mr. Darrell for many, many years. And, in some ways, my journey in Bermuda politics started with Mr. Darrell. And also with our colleague, the Minister without Portfolio, Jamahl Simmons, and I, often, as teenagers, found ourselves at the feet of Mr. Darrell and Walter Robi nson at his family’s home, listening to them discuss local politics long before we both were in politics, also with Minister Simmons’s father, Lionel Simmons, who was also a Member of this House. So, my relationship goes back personally with Mr. Darrell for many, many years. And he made an outstanding contribution to this country, as already stated, in business, but also helped as those in those early days, in the 1960s, who trans formed the country. So, we certainly on this side associate ourselves with the condolences, but I am sure the House, as a whole, as well. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 8. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to send condolences out to the family of the late Honourable C. V. “Jim” Woolridge, former Cabinet Minister, the “Voice of Summer.” As you know, Mr. Woolridge was Berm uda’s foremost ambassador when it came to tourism. He was instrumental …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to send condolences out to the family of the late Honourable C. V. “Jim” Woolridge, former Cabinet Minister, the “Voice of Summer.” As you know, Mr. Woolridge was Berm uda’s foremost ambassador when it came to tourism. He was instrumental in turning tourism around in the 1970s. It was a part of his well -being; it was a part of who he was. He also had a passion for people less fortunate than himself. He came from humble begi nnings. And because of that experience, he left a las ting legacy on Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I remember many days when Dame Lois Browne- Evans and he were bantering. It was the most entertaining thing you would ever want to see and experience. They were at each other. They were teasing each other across the floor. And yet, you know there was a profound love for each other. I would like to also associate myself with the comments made in regard to his cousin, Gershwyn Smith, or his nephew.
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsGershwyn Smith, again another special character from Smith’s —he lived in my constituency. And, in fact, he ran against me in the last election. It was funny, because we were standing at a polling station, saying, Where’s Gershwyn? Where’s Gershwyn? And Gershwyn came in for about 10 minutes with his …
Gershwyn Smith, again another special character from Smith’s —he lived in my constituency. And, in fact, he ran against me in the last election. It was funny, because we were standing at a polling station, saying, Where’s Gershwyn? Where’s Gershwyn? And Gershwyn came in for about 10 minutes with his entourage, stayed 10 minutes, and off he went. And no one had seen him all day! Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 31
Bermuda House of Assembly [Laughter]
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsBut that was Gershwyn. And I think I saw some writings about him. And to sum it up, this report said that Gershwyn’s spiritual teachings were summed up in his slogans, such as Build a better world. Build a better Bermuda. Unity in the community. Community development depends on you. …
But that was Gershwyn. And I think I saw some writings about him. And to sum it up, this report said that Gershwyn’s spiritual teachings were summed up in his slogans, such as Build a better world. Build a better Bermuda. Unity in the community. Community development depends on you. Peace and Love. So, Mr. Speaker, even though he was a colourful character, he was a man who stood for what is best for the community. He wanted the community to get along in unity, and he wanted us all to work t ogether. And I applaud him for his contributions because they have not gone unnot iced. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. I now recognise the Honourable Member from Warwick, Honourable Member Tyrrell, from constit uency 26.
Mr. Neville S. TyrrellThank you, Mr. Speaker. And good afternoon, all. Mr. Speaker, following our summer break, three of my constituents passed on. Unfortunately, they were all women. And I would like this House to send letters of condolences to each of them. And I will name them in no particular order. Mrs. …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And good afternoon, all. Mr. Speaker, following our summer break, three of my constituents passed on. Unfortunately, they were all women. And I would like this House to send letters of condolences to each of them. And I will name them in no particular order. Mrs. Gertrude [Ingham -]Knight, of Spice Hil l Road, whose husband is Mr. Joshua Knight. The sec-ond one is Mrs. Carmin John, of King’s Lane North, in Warwick, whose husband was Austin John. And finally, Mrs. Selina -Mae Dean. (I will associate my colleague, Lawrence Scott, with the condolences for the family of Mrs. John—I think she was his neighbour.) And the third person was Mrs. Selina- Mae Dean, of Carver Heights Lane, whose husband was Antonio Toussaint . All three of these persons, Mr. Speaker, were solid backers of the Progressive Labour Party, and I visited them often prior to their passing. And, in fact, I had actually seen Mrs. John a couple of weeks before her passing, and she was in good spirits. But at the same time, these things do happen, Mr. Speaker. And I appreciate it if letters could be sent. Thank you very much.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s, the Honourable Member Swan. You have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanYes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, very much, and good morni ng. Mr. Speaker, it is on a sad note that I rise t oday. There are a number of condolences that I want to start to offer. Mrs. Frances “Fanny” Hall, from Sout hampton, proprietor of the Lilliput Nursery School …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSome of us in this room were students in that nursery.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanThe building of many foundations through family and through her love of God and her service. My cousins from Rose Hill, and the Bailey’s B ay family that it encompasses, as well. A great lady —may she rest in peace. Ms. Ianthe Louise Pearman, a stalwart of St. George’s, very …
The building of many foundations through family and through her love of God and her service. My cousins from Rose Hill, and the Bailey’s B ay family that it encompasses, as well. A great lady —may she rest in peace. Ms. Ianthe Louise Pearman, a stalwart of St. George’s, very much the same in the St. George’s community, did for the St. George’s community what Aunt Fanny did for the Death Valley community, that greatest community as well. A family of profound excellence, I must say, and a family that has longevity where many of them have gone past the age of 90. And her brother is certainly a centenarian and was there yesterday, as she was being funeralised, as was her sister, and many of her relatives. And her former students, as well, many there are. And, finally, Mr. Eugene “Pudna” Wainwright, my dear friend, and a father figure and a role model for many of us in the St. George’s community. A gentleman who loved his sport, was reserved in Cup Match a couple of times. But was a great example of service. We will miss him and miss his singing at Calvary at many funerals. Many people will have this song just running through their head today, [as he is being] funeralised tomorrow. The family of Mr. Arthur Leroy “George” Wales, who had a tragic coming to his passing in a road accident on Cut Road. We offer our condolences to his family on such a tragic loss. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe the tributes to Gilbert Darrell and Jim Wool ridge have been associated with the whole House. But I did …
Thank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe the tributes to Gilbert Darrell and Jim Wool ridge have been associated with the whole House. But I did want to express my personal condolences to the Jim Woolridge family, because my whole advent of my political career had been enhanced by the knowledge that I had received by having the experience of sitting around the likes of Jim Woolridge during the currency of my time here in this Honourable House. I also would like to associate with the condolences regarding Mrs. John; Austin, her son, and A gnes, her daughter, we kind of grew up together. They 32 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly used to actually live over on Elliott Street, and I would like to associate myself with those condolences. And also, with the condolences to “Git” Smith. Gershwyn was actually —we called him “Git.” Gershwyn was actually one of those people who had nominated my father for the position of National Hero at the same time as he did Sir Henry Tucker, as well as Roosevelt Brown, Pauulu Kamarakafego. So, I think that Gershwyn not only looked at his own i nvolvement in the community, but he looked broadly across to w hom he considered to be appropriate people to be honoured in such a way. And, certainly, from a family perspective, I appreciate the gesture that he made in respect of my dad. I also want to be associated with the condolences to the family of Selina Dean. She was not just Herbert Antonio Toussaint’s wife. She was Toto’s mom and Tahj’s mom, and Stephen and Paulette Dean’s daughter. But apart from that, she served this community really well as the Admitting Officer in the Emergency Department at KEMH [King Edward VII Memorial Hospital ]. She met her death at a very early age, which was really quite unfortunate. But I would be remiss if I did not just stand and want to embrace their family and certainly show my support for them through association with the condolences given. And finally, I would just like to offer congrat ulations to David Lambert at the Elbow Beach Tennis Club. David has developed a senior’s tennis pr ogramme, for which he has been able to get some really good sponsors, not the least of which ar e—actually, they are key sponsors. Dunkley’s is their key sponsor. But they also have Butterfield & Vallis, and Pepsi — you know, Mr. Paul Spring—and different companies that have associated to make this seniors tennis pr ogramme successful. This past week, t hey had a sponsors’ appreciation day. And it was just amazing to see the number of seniors —I call us the “Geriatric Club,” because I had the opportunity to join them for the first time this past Wednesday. And I think that, for som eone to ensure that there is a programme to continue to enhance the health and welfare of our seniors is admirable. And I would certainly like to send congrat ulations to David Lambert and his team at Elbow Beach Tennis Club for the support that they are giving to our seniors for t he enhancement of their health. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Minister. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, all. Mr. Speaker, I rise today for three sad occ asions. But I begin with one that has a unique place in my heart and …
Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Minister. Minister, you have the floor.
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, all. Mr. Speaker, I rise today for three sad occ asions. But I begin with one that has a unique place in my heart and my family. Growing up, my father had many political colleagues. But there were only three that he never referred to by their first names: Ms. Browne- Evans, Mr. Cox and Mr. Darrell. And that was the level of respect that was held for this that was a virtual Holy Trinity, if it were. And I think that, for those of us who believe in black economic empowerment and for those of us who believe in a social conscience, the life of Mr. Darrell is one to be studied, not just for the political achievements, but for proving that you can build a business and maintain a social conscience. You can build wealth and maintain connection with the common man. And I think that that is for those who aspire to build wealth and grow, for those who aspire to participate and serve their country, the balance can be struck. And he has shown it could be done.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMm-hmm. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: He was a mentor to my father. And later in his life, he was a mentor to me. And he will be truly, truly missed. Mr. Speaker, Ms. Cheyanne Brangman, who passed recently, unexpectedly, I first met during the last general election, the last day. …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: He was a mentor to my father. And later in his life, he was a mentor to me. And he will be truly, truly missed. Mr. Speaker, Ms. Cheyanne Brangman, who passed recently, unexpectedly, I first met during the last general election, the last day. She and her mother were the last two people I spoke with before we went to the polls. And we built a very tight relationship. I very quickly became . . . Because she was the type of person who, if she liked you, she embraced you and you became a part of the family. And so, I went from Mr. Simmons to Uncle Jamahl in like 48 hours. And she would hit me up on social media when she saw something new that she had a question about. And she would say, Uncle Jamahl, what’s this about? What’s that about? And she had a strong desire to become a nurse. My mother, who was a nurse for many years, I connected her with her, and she took her under her wing. She became close and tied to our family. It is always a tragedy when somebody so young goes. But, in particular, this was a young lady who had challenges that she s ought to overcome. She sought to do more. She sought to be more. And it is just . . . This is the time that you accept that God has a higher plan. You have to accept that to understand this, in this nature. Finally, Mr. Speaker, I yesterday joined the St. George’s community in saying good- bye to my aunt, Auntie Pearman. To the people of St. George’s, the people of St. George’s knew her as the person who taught generations of St. George’s at East End Prim ary—48 years at East End Primary. She is the person who, while she had no children of her own, adopted, embraced and mentored generations of Bermudians who came through the halls of East End Primary. But, to her nephew, who would only see her periodically on these visits and pilgrimages to St. George’s, she was the woman with the big smile whenever you saw her. She was a true gem, who will truly be missed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you, Honourable Member. Now I will recognise the Deputy Speaker. Deputy Speaker, you have the floor.
Hon. Der rick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to associate with the remarks and tributes to Sir Jim Woolridge. And I say “Sir” and I mean that because that is one person whom I think should have been knighted. Because Jim Woolrid ge was the salesman of the century. And he had the voice to complement his salesmanship. He could sell anything. Having been on a few trips with him, he was very good. He was just on the wrong side of the Parliament.
[Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberBeware of what you say. [Laughter] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: But, no. Jim Woolridge was one whom I certainly respected and would certainly never forget him. Also, Mr. Gilbert Darrell. Mr. Darrell, a polit ician, a businessman, one who was very well respec ted in Smith’s Parish and the …
Beware of what you say.
[Laughter]
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: But, no. Jim Woolridge was one whom I certainly respected and would certainly never forget him. Also, Mr. Gilbert Darrell. Mr. Darrell, a polit ician, a businessman, one who was very well respec ted in Smith’s Parish and the people of Hampton Parish whom he represented. And a very strong A.M.E. member of St. Philip A.M.E. Church, Mr. Speaker. These two gentlemen will be sorely missed, all sorely missed. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to send condolences to the family of Allen Robinson, a former civil servant, a long- serving civil servant in the social f inancial assistance, in that area, Mr. Speaker. He will certainly be missed by his wife, former Permanent Secretary of Education, Mrs. [Marion] Robi nson; and his daughter, Dr. Emma Robinson; and his son, Allen Junior. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Deputy. We now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 19. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I know we have talked about Gilbert Darrell and the House being associated. But I just wanted to make one observation.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSure. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Because I think, too often, we do not realise that, ov er time, people have many different lives and different ways in which they assoc iate. Gilbert Darrell’s wife is my godmother. And so, obviously, he and my father and mother were friends a long …
Sure.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Because I think, too often, we do not realise that, ov er time, people have many different lives and different ways in which they assoc iate. Gilbert Darrell’s wife is my godmother. And so, obviously, he and my father and mother were friends a long time, for a long time. And when my father lived down in Knapton Hill, Gilbert would walk up to Knapton Hill. My father lived on the corner. And that is when they had their political conversations about what was happening in Bermuda. And they both were bus inessmen who started businesses, but never lost the touch for the common man. And I just think that it is important for us to recognise that just because people are on different sides of the political divide, they are all Bermudians. And they are all out there doing things for the comm unity. And I think if we embraced more what people do, we would realise that we have more in common than we actually have in terms of differences. So that is my first thing. The second thing, regarding Jim Woolridge, I just know, when you talked to Jim, Jim had that voice that, for a fem ale, he could just sort of make you sort of— [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, well, well . . . Just remember you are speaking publicly now. You are speaking in public now. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, sorry. He could soften the edges. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, no. He could soften the edges. And I just want …
Well, well, well . . . Just remember you are speaking publicly now. You are speaking in public now.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, sorry. He could soften the edges. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, no. He could soften the edges. And I just want to make one observation, because it is important. I remember when I went to see Jim Woolridge, this was at the time when you had this issue of men giving status to their wives and women not being able to pass status. And I had the convers ation with him, because I felt it was very inequitable that it could happen. And I was hoping that he would change it so that everybody would give status. But in the end, he changed it so that nobody gave status.
[Laughter]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: But I must admit, when you talked to Jim —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHe made it equal. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: He gave equality. Not in the direction that I wanted to go. But anyway, those things happen. So . . . but in any case, I just wanted to say that these are people. And what worries me is that all these …
He made it equal.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: He gave equality. Not in the direction that I wanted to go. But anyway, those things happen. So . . . but in any case, I just wanted to say that these are people. And what worries me is that all these people who are passing, these are the people who got us where we are today. And many of them actuall y interacted with each other and had respect for each other, the mutual respect. So, let us hope that we can remember that they did this. And you have 34 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly already told us that this week, this month, this year we are going to emulate that. So I will move on, and say that I have had a couple of people in my constituency, Harold “Frankie” Smith. Frankie was one of those people whom I always made sure that, when I was out going around, I would go up and visit him. Frankie worked for my f ather before he went to wor k for the American Cons ulate. And so, he was one of those individuals who un-derstood politics, looked to see what was going on and was always, always interested in what was happening in Bermuda. And so, I want our condolences to go out to his family and al l the other people who are here. And Dr. Gordon Black. I do not know . . . I mean, he is not in my constituency, but, obviously, I worked at the hospital for a long time. And actually, because I was helping in constituency 25, where he lived, that was the last time I had the opportunity to, sort of, think about him and realise that we are all getting older. And if we do not speak to these—
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberSpeak for yourself. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Well, we are all getting younger. How is that? We all think younger. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Anyway, I am supposed to speak to the Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGetting better. How is that? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes. So, I just want to have condolences sent to their f amilies and the family of Sherry Tavares and the family of Giuseppe Rocher. Sherry, she was a consti tuent. Giuseppe and his wife were what I call the family …
Getting better. How is that? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes. So, I just want to have condolences sent to their f amilies and the family of Sherry Tavares and the family of Giuseppe Rocher. Sherry, she was a consti tuent. Giuseppe and his wife were what I call the family that we got together after Sonesta. When my husband first came on the Island, the Sonesta family was part of that group. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 21. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, firstly, I would like to offer condolences to the family of Mr. Kenny Paul.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongI was not sure if somebody had mentioned it. I was out a little earlier. Mr. Kenny Paul, for many of us who are lifelong St. George’s fans, we always remember him, those of us over a certain age, of being part of that St. George’s dynasty in the early …
I was not sure if somebody had mentioned it. I was out a little earlier. Mr. Kenny Paul, for many of us who are lifelong St. George’s fans, we always remember him, those of us over a certain age, of being part of that St. George’s dynasty in the early years that went on to dominate Cup Match for close to two decades or more. But, Kenny Paul, along with others, such as Mr. Jackie Durham, formed the lynchpin of that, the beginning of that dynasty. But, Mr. Speaker, for many of us who are aware of our history and the role of the labour movement, and, of course, laterally, the Pr ogressive Labour Party, in its struggle for justice and economic and social and racial justice, Kenny Paul has to go down as one of the pillars of the labour movement. Maybe of your listeners may not be aware, especially those of the younger generations, that he played a key role out there during the so- called “BELCO disturbances,” more commonly referred to as the “BELCO riots, ” where men such as Mr. Kenny Paul were determined—
Mr. Rolfe Commis siongThe “BELCO strike,” yes. [They] were determined to ensure that the conditions that existed over there because of the lack of union representation were going to be addressed. Of course, many of us know how that turned out. And Mr. Paul, I think qui te unfairly, was arrested, tried and …
The “BELCO strike,” yes. [They] were determined to ensure that the conditions that existed over there because of the lack of union representation were going to be addressed. Of course, many of us know how that turned out. And Mr. Paul, I think qui te unfairly, was arrested, tried and spent some time in prison, I would say as a political prisoner, for his stand and his principled stand on behalf of workers and workers’ rights. So, let us not forget him. Mr. Speaker, I want to move on now. Oftentimes , you hear me talking about my close friends and those I call extended family out in Spanish Point. And when I say “ extended family ,” it does not necessarily mean that I was related to some of these people. But we lost a great Bermudian broadcasting icon, that being Mr. Everard Davis. And I heard there was a m emorial in Bermuda. He was buried overseas. But I heard the comments of the Deputy Speaker and of the Member from constituency 19, Pembroke West, about Mr. Woolridge, who passed away, his facility in t erms of expressing, you know, via his voice, and the tone and tenor of his voice. The Member from [constituency] 19 spoke of the seductive quality of his voice, I believe. But I will tell you this. Mr. Everard Davis would give Mr. Jim Woolridge a run for his money. You know, as a little boy growing up out at Key West out there, across from Admiralty House, there were some icons in that community whom you looked up to. And he was one of those. He was so irrepressibly chari smatic, so effortlessly in terms of his grace and charm that, [for me] as a young boy, he was the type of guy that you wanted to be when you grew up. And Everard Davis was certainly one of those individuals. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 35
Bermuda House of Assembly Just a little quick background for some of our younger Members, again. Mr. Everard Davis formed part of a group—
[Timer beeps.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAh, Ah. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongNo, I am not going to . . . Okay, Mr. Speaker. I thank you for the time. And I think it was time well spent. Thank you so much. The Sp eaker: Thank you. We recognise the Member from constituency 10. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Michael …
No, I am not going to . . . Okay, Mr. Speaker. I thank you for the time. And I think it was time well spent. Thank you so much.
The Sp eaker: Thank you. We recognise the Member from constituency 10. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will start off on a pleasant note to piggyback on my honourable colleague, Pat Gor-don-Pamplin, on her congratulations to David Lambert and his Bermuda’s Treasures senior camp. What I found truly amazing about not only the organisation and all of the pros who were there to help in this clinic, but the spring in the step from the seniors. The former Speaker was there also, yesterday. But the spring in the step for seniors. And one lady said it was her first time there. And she picked up the strokes and had such a good time, it was truly amazing to see. And so, congratulations to David on getti ng our seniors out there. They had a great time, and it looks like they did not want to leave at the end of the session. So we are pleased to be able to support that. Because we have been gone from this House for some time, there are many stalwarts who have passed away. And I want to be associated with the condolences to the Honourable C. V. “Jim” Woolridge sent to his family. I had known Uncle Jim for a long time. In fact, on the passing of my father when I was young, I remember shortly after, coming back for the funeral, Jim said to me, Don’t worry, Michael. When your father was on his deathbed, he told me to take good care of you. And I will continue to do that. And he did. We spoke in politics almost every day, right up to the end. He just had a love for Bermuda and a love for politics. And I remember early in my political c areer, I said, Jim, I would like to learn how you canvass. And he said, in his typical voice, Well, you’ve got a long way to go. Because I’ve been around so long now I just call up the neighbourhood and tell them I’m coming, and they all meet at one house. And that is how well known he was throughout the Island and the love he had. He stayed in this place a long time. He never lost his shelf -life for politics. There are statesmen lik e him, and Gilbert Darrell was the same way. I met Mr. Darrell when I first came back from university. And you could tell that he was a very respectful man. He was a deep thinker. And he cared about the community. So, condolences to his family. And to Nei l Inchcup, as well. He used to stop by my office quite often on Saturdays and have a con-versation. And he will be missed. I would like this Honourable House to send condolences to Robert Pratt, a constituent of mine who was a well -known taxi driver. To another constituent, a young man, Taylor Grier, who was gunned down in August in what I con-sidered to be the wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong time—a fine young man who, at the young age of 30 engaged in politics and would continually want to meet with me, WhatsApp with me, about our Bermudian community. And it hurts our heart that we continue to have this gun violence and a young man like him to be lost. I would like to send condolences to the Chapman family on the passing of [Edward Somers] “Teddy” Chapman, a good man whom I have known from the other side of the business desk. He was the General Manager of Freezer Fresh Foods for many a time. But Teddy Chapman was certainly a fine Ber-mudian who had a really strong sense of humour, and I enjoyed that. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the time.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. We recognise the Minister of Education. Mi nister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, obviously, would like to be associated with all of the comments, especially for Jim Woolridge and for Shiloh. Shiloh is someone who was very close and near to my father, and …
Yes. We recognise the Minister of Education. Mi nister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, obviously, would like to be associated with all of the comments, especially for Jim Woolridge and for Shiloh. Shiloh is someone who was very close and near to my father, and they used to hang out back in the day. And that is when I met him, when I was a very, very young boy up there on Spanish Heights Road, just off of Knapton Hill. Mr. Spe aker, I would also like to have condolences sent to the family of Howard Cross, a constit uent of mine. He was a retired pilot. He just passed away last week. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to send condolences to the family of Allan Smith, a stalwart of con-stituency 7 for the Progressive Labour Party. Mr. Smith had been active in politics since before I was born. Constituency 7 has seen quite a few PLP candidates run in that constituency and being held by the hand by Mr. Smith. And also, it would be remiss of me not to mention Roddy Burchall, as well. That constit uency has produced four Cabinet Ministers who have run on successfully in constituency 7, but gone on to become Cabinet Ministers, including myself. Minister Wayne Caines, Minister David Burch and f ormer A ttorney General, Larry Mussenden. Yes. I would like to associate the whole House with the condolences for the family of Allan Smith. Anyone who knew him knew that he was a r emarkable man. If you did manage to attend his funer36 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly al, you would have seen the tribute given by his son, who considered him a man of men, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to wrap up and ask for a letter of congratulations to be sent to Trevor Lindsay, of TNN news network. Trevor Lindsay endeavoured to take on—
[Desk thumping]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes, sir!
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberAssociate! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Trevor Lindsay —we can associate the whole House. Trevor Lindsay took on some students from Dellwood Middle School as a day relief programme and brought them to my office. And we had a good chat yesterday. I just want to highlight that, to let …
Associate!
Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Trevor Lindsay —we can associate the whole House. Trevor Lindsay took on some students from Dellwood Middle School as a day relief programme and brought them to my office. And we had a good chat yesterday. I just want to highlight that, to let people know that this is what our young students do need, to get out there and be able to see what they can do with the skills they want. He brought to my office a set of twins. One wants to be a writer; one wants to be a photographer. They fit very nicely into what he is doing with his career, Mr. Speaker. So, congratulations to Mr. Lindsay, and I do see him in the Gallery, as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. I will take, with the indulgence, because I believe you are the last Member who is looking to rise to her feet. I will take the Honourable Member, and then we will recognise the . . . Other Members want to speak?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, we will come back after lunch then, for that. We will come back after lunch because there are other Members who wish to speak. [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, yes. Members, your Whips may have indicated to you just now that I would like for us to do the moment of silence for former Members. It should have been done this morning. So, when we come back at the end of the condolences and obituaries, we will do …
Yes, yes. Members, your Whips may have indicated to you just now that I would like for us to do the moment of silence for former Members. It should have been done this morning. So, when we come back at the end of the condolences and obituaries, we will do the m oment of silence. I was hoping we would have finished before we went to lunch. But being that we have to come back to complete this, we will do it at the end of that. So, at this moment, we will — Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I ask that we adjourn for lunch until two o’clock.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. The House s tands adjourned until 2:00 pm for our lunch period, and we will continue with the Orders of the Day at that point. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:32 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:04 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] The Speak er: Good …
Yes. The House s tands adjourned until 2:00 pm for our lunch period, and we will continue with the Orders of the Day at that point.
[Gavel]
Proceedings suspended at 12:32 pm
Proceedings resumed at 2:04 pm
[Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speak er: Good afternoon, Members. Welcome back from lunch. We will resume with the [continuation] of the speeches for condolences and congratul ations. And Mrs. Furbert, I think you caught my eye just before we closed to indicate that you wanted to speak. Do you still wish to speak?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThen you may have the floor.
Mrs. Tinee FurbertGood afternoon and thank you, Mr. Speaker . I would li ke to give condolences [regarding] quite a number of my constituents who have passed in the last couple of weeks. Mr. Wayne Johnston who was a long time serving employee of the Southampton Princess, he was responsible for security …
Good afternoon and thank you, Mr. Speaker . I would li ke to give condolences [regarding] quite a number of my constituents who have passed in the last couple of weeks. Mr. Wayne Johnston who was a long time serving employee of the Southampton Princess, he was responsible for security at Southampton Princess. And I am wanting to send condolences to his family: his wife Joanne—I associate MP Kim Swan with that—and he leaves his wife, Joanne, and his two sons, Jordayo and Daeshun. I also want to send condolences to the family of Mr. Wyman Minks, the son of Mrs. B arbara and Cyril Smith of Wyndham Hill. And then we had two persons within the Harlem Heights area and I want to send condolences to their families: Mr. Gilbert E. Hollis —condolences to the Hollis family; and Mr. Neville Spencer — condolences to the Spencer family. And then I also want to send condolences to the family of Mr. Leonard (Lenny) Wayne, quite popularly known in the Hamilton Parish area, who left us earlier this week. And I want to send condolences to his wife , Michele Wayne, and his mother , Kathleen, and his brothers , Che and Joe. Lenny was known for many years as serving at the Crystal Caves. He gave tours there at the Crystal Caves and so he will be sadly missed by the Crystal Caves family as well as by his own family as well as the Hamilton Pari sh family. I Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 37
Bermuda House of Assembly also want to associate—he was also a former Berk eleyite —so I also want to share these condolences with Mr. Christopher Famous and Mrs. Renee Ming. Mr. Speaker , I also want to send congratulat ory notes to Mr. Sandro Fubler who recently opened up a new business, the Bermuda Prevention and Rehabilitation Alliance. And I want to just give special note to the many Bermudians out there who do open bus inesses [which] I think that we should be able to highlight a little bit more often because it is an acco mplishment of many Bermudians in Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member wish . . . we recognise the Honourable Member Famous. Honourable Member , you have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous—and Bermuda. I wish to give condolences as well, starting off with Mr. Wayne Augustus who was a faithful employee of the Corporation of Hamilton. He was also my family. Ms. Selina Dean, who was a classmate of mine in Berkeley, she was a constituent of Mr. Neville Tyrrell , …
—and Bermuda. I wish to give condolences as well, starting off with Mr. Wayne Augustus who was a faithful employee of the Corporation of Hamilton. He was also my family. Ms. Selina Dean, who was a classmate of mine in Berkeley, she was a constituent of Mr. Neville Tyrrell , and I remember on the day that we won the bye-election we drove across to Selina’s house. She said, What time have I got to vote? I said , Now! What do y ou mean now? I mean, now you get in my car now. Okay. So she was a faithful PLP supporter. And as Mrs. Tinee Furbert spoke, Mr. Lenny Wayne, he was also a branch member of constituency 4 and he was actually one of the persons that nom inated MP Ti nee Furbert to be a candidate. I am going to finish on a note of a great Devonshire man, Mr. Kenny Paul, originally a pond dog. And I listened to my honourable friend from constit uency 21 and he captured some part of it, but Mr. Kenny Paul was one who helped to build the Devonshire community with his raw hands. If you did not know what you were doing, he used to come around and show you. If you had problems with planning, he showed you how to get it right. So I speak about that because it is often we hear about those of us that are in the front line of politics [so] it has to be mentioned about those that helped build communities behind politics. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s. Honourable Member Ming, you have the floor.
Mrs. Renee MingI have sad notes today, Mr. Speaker. St. George’s has been taking a blow down there, but I would like to just send prayers and words of comfort to the family of Arthur George Wales —I like his name as George, I do not know why I call him A …
I have sad notes today, Mr. Speaker. St. George’s has been taking a blow down there, but I would like to just send prayers and words of comfort to the family of Arthur George Wales —I like his name as George, I do not know why I call him A rthur like that, that is just his formal name—but if you are from St. George’s , George is George. And he was just one of those cool people that just got around to everybody . . . well liked, well received. And I just want to associate MP Tyrrell and MP Weeks and MP Cannonier with my comments as well. I also want to send a condolence note to the family of Annette Steede, another Cut Road, St. George’s senior who went on to her glory. And then I know my brother —my colleague, I am sorry —has already done this, but Ianthe Pearman, anybody in St. George’s, probably anybody from the age of 40 and upwards was taught by Ms. Pearman. In my family she taught my grandmother, she taught my mama, she taught me—so that was three gener ations right there. And she always started the year out by saying, What high school do you want to go to? And I remember saying, I want to go to Berkeley. She corrected that one time, she said, No, it is not Berk eley—first of all , and then she said, We can make that happen. Needless to say , Respice Finem . . . and Gold House as well. And also to the family of my Uncle Gene— Eugene “Pudna” Wainwright —his funeral is tomorrow. And I have known Uncle Gene all of my life, we have been at Richard Allen [AME Churc h] for years, St. George’s for years . . . I remember when I ran in 2012 and I visited his home and he said, Whatcha doin’ here? And whatcha doin’ here . . . normally when you are a candidate are great words, right? Because you know that is not a long visi t, that person is already giving you their trust. And so his family, his wife, Aunt Rose, the girls Tarana, Gena and TJ are all well - known to me and I know that they are . . . whilst they are sad at this time, we have no doubt in our mind where he has gone. So I just want them to know that they are in our thoughts and our prayers at this time. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member . 38 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Minister for Works. Minister, you have the floor.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Speaker, thank you and good afternoon. Let me first be associated with the condolences for Allen Smith, Wayne Augustus and Eugene Wainwright. And even as a Somerset supporter — lifelong and gone die—I will be associated with the condolences to Mr. Kenny Paul because even though he played for …
Mr. Speaker, thank you and good afternoon. Let me first be associated with the condolences for Allen Smith, Wayne Augustus and Eugene Wainwright. And even as a Somerset supporter — lifelong and gone die—I will be associated with the condolences to Mr. Kenny Paul because even though he played for St. George’s , some of his best friends were from Somerset. Both he and his widow were good friends of my parents. So I extend condolences to all of those families. So I would also like to extend condolences to a constituent of mine who passed in August , Susie Melanie Almeida Sequeira of Cedar Hill who . . . sometimes you make the mistake about people’s heritage where they might be placing their vote when you just see their name on a . . . on a canvassing sheet, but I was going to knock on everybody’s door in any case, and that was one of the most pleasant surpri ses. When I knocked on her door she was PLP all the way and made no mistake about it and left no doubt in anybody’s mind. I remember vividly on polling day she came dressed in her green—all of it! So I extend condolences to her family. Mr. Speaker , I would like for congratulations to be sent to the graduates of the Right Living House. Two graduated from that facility at the Farm facility on the 5 th of September. And what was most encouraging about this, Mr. Speaker , [was that] the guest speaker was a previous graduate. And one of the real pluses of this programme is that those people who graduate from i t actually come back and continue to interact and to support those who they may have been incarcerated with. So it is very encouraging. I would also like a letter of congratulation to be sent to the Department of Parks who on the 25th of October graduated and certified 25 landscapers in that department. The real uniqueness of this, Mr. Speaker , is that those who have any —even remote— knowledge of Parks will know that we have a lot of Portuguese employees who primarily speak only Portuguese, we have a signif icant number of hearing i mpaired workers who, obviously, need to be signed to, and then, of course, English- speaking workers. And I would really like to highlight the facilitator of this pr ogramme, Mrs. Dawn Santucci -Smith , who ran three different cohorts —she ran one in Portuguese, one in Sign [Language] , and one in English—so that ever ybody felt as if they were a part of the process. And the pride shown by those who graduated, whose ages extended—or length of service extended—from 37 years down to 1 year, was clearly evident. Mr. Speaker , I would also like congratulations to be sent to the members of Youth Parliament who, you will know, convened last week — [Timer beeps]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAfter the summer recess . . . okay. Gee, you took my mind right off my thought. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: He took your breath away, didn’t he, Mr. Speaker ?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, he did. Minister De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI see you on your feet. I am assuming you would like to add a contribution. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I would. In fact , Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGo right ahead. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —let me finish off what the Colonel was going to say . I think, in that . . . because I attended the Youth Parliament as well —the opening— and I think he wanted to certainly congratulate all the young people …
Go right ahead.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —let me finish off what the Colonel was going to say . I think, in that . . . because I attended the Youth Parliament as well —the opening— and I think he wanted to certainly congratulate all the young people that continue to participate in our Youth Parliament. And you will know, Mr. Speaker , you have some very close relatives of yours that went through that process.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerA couple. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And, of course, I thi nk one of them is here today , and the two of you have created history. So, that being said, I would certainly like to congratulate all of them for participating in Youth Parliament and I look …
A couple. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And, of course, I thi nk one of them is here today , and the two of you have created history. So, that being said, I would certainly like to congratulate all of them for participating in Youth Parliament and I look forward to hearing some of the debates during the year. Now, whilst I am on my feet, Mr. Speaker , I would also like to congratulate a young man by the name of Gary Pitt. Gary works up at Southampton Princess and has been working there for seven years , and he had the distinction of earning two top awards this year —the 2018 CTA (the Certified Tourism A mbassador) award for top food and beverage, and he also won the 2018 Certified Tourism Ambassador for top tourism ambassador himself. So this is a young Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 39
Bermuda House of Assembly man, Mr. Speaker , he is probably . . . if you do not know who he is he has probably served you because he is always attends the large events. And I think he is one of our up and coming young men that is going to do very, very well. Minister Kim Wilson wants to be associated . . . as does Colonel Burch. But Mr. Speaker , this young man . . . I look forward to . . . if you talk to him , you will see why he was voted the ambassador . . . he is sharp, he is really sharp. And, in fact, one day I look forward to him not only managing a hotel, but possibly being the owner of one. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member . Colonel you had your chance. So there is no one— [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe Speaker—he was the only one that moved, right? Nobody else is moving, so I am going to assume . . . but Colonel before you go through, let me invite you back in. Come back in because we have now concluded the condolences and congratulations , being no one else …
—he was the only one that moved, right? Nobody else is moving, so I am going to assume . . . but Colonel before you go through, let me invite you back in. Come back in because we have now concluded the condolences and congratulations , being no one else is rising at this time.
MOMENT OF SILENCE
[In memory of the Honourable Jim Woolridge and the Honourable Gilbert Darrell]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI would just like to ask all Members to join me in a moment of silence to recognise our two former Members who have already had words expressed, but I think it is only fitting that we do the tr adition that we would do for any former Member who …
I would just like to ask all Members to join me in a moment of silence to recognise our two former Members who have already had words expressed, but I think it is only fitting that we do the tr adition that we would do for any former Member who has passed. So at this time let us just take a moment of s ilence to recognise the passing of the Honourable Jim Woolridge and the Honourable Gilbert Darrell. [The House rose and observed a moment of silence.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Members. MATTERS OF PRIV ILEGE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe have two Government Bills listed on the Order Paper to be introduced, and we will call on the Minister of Tourism —Minister —for the first matter. FIRST READING MERCHANT SHIPPING AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I am …
We have two Government Bills listed on the Order Paper to be introduced, and we will call on the Minister of Tourism —Minister —for the first matter.
FIRST READING
MERCHANT SHIPPING AMENDMENT ACT 2018
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the Merchant Shipping Amendment Act 2018.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. And for the second it is the Minister of Health. Minister. FIRST READING CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER ( [TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS] AND VALIDATION) ACT 2018 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be …
Thank you. And for the second it is the Minister of Health. Minister.
FIRST READING
CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER ( [TRANSFER OF FUNCTIONS] AND VALIDATION) ACT 2018
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the Chief Medical Officer ([Transfer of Functions] and Validation) Act 2018.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, we have moved to Orders of the Day and the first item on the Order Paper for t oday would be the continuation [of the consideration] of the Speech from the Throne given last week. And t oday we will have the Reply from the Opposition, but we will …
Members, we have moved to Orders of the Day and the first item on the Order Paper for t oday would be the continuation [of the consideration] of the Speech from the Throne given last week. And t oday we will have the Reply from the Opposition, but we will recognise the Deputy Premier to start us off. 40 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Deputy Premier, you have the floor.
MESSAGE TO HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR
Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . “May it please Your Excellency : “We the Members of the House of Assembly of Bermuda thank Your Excellency for the gracious speech with which Your Excellency was pleased to open the present session of Parliament. ”
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Deputy [Premier]. Does any Member wish to speak to that? We recognise the Honourable Member , the Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member Cannonier, you have the floor. REPLY TO THE 2018 THRONE SPEECH Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker , for this opportunity this afternoon. …
Thank you, Deputy [Premier]. Does any Member wish to speak to that? We recognise the Honourable Member , the Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member Cannonier, you have the floor.
REPLY TO THE 2018 THRONE SPEECH Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker , for this opportunity this afternoon. Mr. S peaker , Bermuda is not in a good place right now. Retail sales are in the doldrums. Taxes are at an all -time high. Shootings continue. Our national debt is rising. Employment income has fallen.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerCould we pause for a minute? Do you have copies to be circulated today? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, they are all here.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSergeant -at-Arms — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: They are in the House.
The SpeakerThe Speaker—do you have the copies to circulate? Beg your pardon? The Sergeant -at-Arms: No, sir . Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Where are they? They were brought up here.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerLet us just pause for one minute to find out where they are so the Sergeant can circulate them. [Pause]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJust one minute, Members. [Pause]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Opposition Leader, you can continue now that they are being distributed. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Employment has fallen. GDP is down. The volume of retail sales is down. Schools are crumbling, and health care costs are higher than they have ever been. In short, we are …
Thank you. Opposition Leader, you can continue now that they are being distributed. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Employment has fallen. GDP is down. The volume of retail sales is down. Schools are crumbling, and health care costs are higher than they have ever been. In short, we are on a path of perpetual contrac-tion, heading towards an economic abyss.
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Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The OBA’s record in government was one to be proud of in terms of what we achieved. Before the 2017 election w e were on track to balance the budget in fiscal 2018/19. Major projects were either being completed or had been broken ground.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members, we do not want to drown out the speaker. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Business confidence was once again on the rise. The opportunities for Berm udians were bearing fruit. Jobs for Bermudians were being created. Mr. Speaker , the Premier has been, he says, boldly pursuing a third …
Members, Members, we do not want to drown out the speaker.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Business confidence was once again on the rise. The opportunities for Berm udians were bearing fruit. Jobs for Bermudians were being created. Mr. Speaker , the Premier has been, he says, boldly pursuing a third economic pillar to rival that of our international business sector and touri sm. The Premier’s efforts, however, have fallen short. Where are the promised jobs for Bermudians? FinTech was barely a whisper in this year’s Throne Speech. D espite numerous PLP promises, despite numerous MOUs, the number of Bermudian jobs created by the PLP thus far seems to almost amount to zero. The only tangible pieces to the Premier’s socalled third pillar are fast -tracked, unadvertised work permits for a handful of FinTech entrepreneurs and the sale of Bermudian land and a building on Victoria Street to a foreign- owned company with no Bermuda track record. So much for the PLP protecting the land for Bermudians. So much for the PLP creating jobs for our people. In the OBA’s four and a half years at the helm we started on the construction of an airport, realised the construction of the Loren, the renovation of Hami lton Princess, the commencement of Azure, St. Regis, and Morgan’s Point hotels , and we facilitated the transaction completion at Tucker’s Point. All of these OBA projects continue to create real and tangible jobs and opportunities for all Berm udians. The, quote, “North American Airport Deal of 2017” is proceeding as per plan, on schedule, on budget, and according to specifications. In the pr ocess it continues to employ many Bermudians and Bermudian- owned subcontractors and suppliers. Even more staggering, Mr. Speaker , is the Burt administration taking credit for 322 more people working in Bermuda, which is directly related to the projects started under the OBA. The amount of doublespeak we have been subjected to by the PLP Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 41
Bermuda House of Assembly makes me think the Premier believes Bermudians are gullible. Mr. Speaker , the Government’s policy of job creation appears to be ensuring travel agents are kept employed by the number of trips racked up in as short a time as possible by the Premier and his unreported entourage. It is simply not good enough. And it is di sappointing. If we do not change course, and change course quickly, we are doomed to end up in another self-induced economic slump. This was the reality of the previous PLP administration, in which Premier Burt was the Junior Minister of Finance. Despite the fact the US economy is in a very strong position, Bermuda is falling short. The PLP is quick to blame outside forces when things go wrong on their watc h, so what is the excuse now? If things do not change, and change fast, Bermuda will be the fallen star of the North Atlantic. The fact is —despite the Premier’s cheerleaders lauding his recent policy offerings —we are actually chasing the tail of a recession. Mr. Speaker , it seems to me that the Burt a dministration is playing a perpetual shell game. Only the Premier dares to be so bold as to pretend to the people of Bermuda that he saved the taxpayer money by reducing the number of Government Minis ters. Yet at the same time, he increases the number of Mini sters. In real terms, the salary bill has gone up by some 20 per cent. This time last year the same Premier tried to make the people believe he was saving money with a smaller Cabinet, but each Minister was put on a full - time salary —thereby costing the taxpayer more than the previous OBA Cabinet. I ask again: D oes the Premier think the people of Bermuda are gullible? Mr. Speaker , in 2012 we were on the brink of total economic disaster. Where would Bermuda be without the Tourism Authority? Imagine where Bermuda would be without all the major hotel and infrastructure since 2012. Where would Bermuda be without the massive $300 million boost we received from the America’s Cup? Imagine where Bermuda would be if the OBA Government had not made some of the tough decisions to pull all of us back from the precipice. The truth is this: we would be in deep trouble.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Mr. Speaker , the recent economic indicators show t hat Bermudians —Mr. Speaker , if we could have some silence, we were s ilent for everybody else.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. We have compared—sorry. Mr. Speaker , the recent economic indicators show that Bermudians were bet ter off in the first quarter of 2015 than the first quarter of 2018. We have compared the data from 2015 so that no one can say …
Continue on.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. We have compared—sorry. Mr. Speaker , the recent economic indicators show that Bermudians were bet ter off in the first quarter of 2015 than the first quarter of 2018. We have compared the data from 2015 so that no one can say there was an artificial increase because of the America’s Cup. When you include the GDP boost in 2017 due to the America’s Cup, the PLP numbers for the first quarter of 2018 become even more dismal in contrast to the succes ses of the OBA. The fact is, despite the Premier’s claims that things are better, they simply are not. Just look around you. The only positive numbers the Premi er can highlight are the OBA’s doing. The economy is now flat - lining. Where, Mr. Speaker , is our much- needed ec onomic stimulus going to come from? The legacy of the America’s Cup has been squandered by the PLP. All the capital projects started under the O BA will eventually come to an end. The economy seems to be slipping backward, evidenced by the negative trend in retail spending—six straight months of decline. Another stimulus is needed to turn the economy around. What is this PLP Government doing to improve the near term and longer term economic pr ospects of and for Bermudians? In today’s challenging environment, Bermuda needs effective, strong and realistic leadership. Leadership that has its feet firmly on the ground while tr ying to find new ways to promote prosperity in our I sland for all. The Burt administration does not offer that. It would rather offer petty critiques of the OBA’s ec onomic stimulus programmes, like the America’s Cup and the new airport terminal. But the latest GDP fi gures for 2017 prove for all to see that these OBA pr ogrammes have worked for Bermuda and for Bermudi-ans. While there has been an increase in gover nment revenue as a result of higher taxes, these tax increases will not reduce the deficit if the PLP fails to reduce government spending. The reason the OBA was able to increase taxes without a revolt from the business sector, which shouldered most of the tax burden, was because there was a demonstrated commitment by the OBA to use those tax increases to eliminate the Isl and’s def icit. Rather than doing more with less, the Burt administration is doing less with more. In fact, the Premier has already broken the promise of balancing the budget for fiscal 2018/19. The PLP’s grab for political control and their ongoing inter ference with the Gaming Commission has significantly reduced the likelihood of getting any local banks to provide vital banking services for the proceeds of casino gaming. Without this, there can be no casino gaming. No related development. No jobs 42 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly that could and should have followed from this OBA stimulus measure. It is curious indeed the responsibility for gaming has been removed from the new Minister of Tourism and Transport and given to the Minister of F inance. Given the existing responsibilities of the Tourism Authority, the “Tourism” part of his portfolio is nothing but a name. We simply do not believe that having gaming under Tourism was the obstacle to banks servicing gaming. With that logic, the Government’s misjudged foray into cryptocurrency should also come under the remit of the Ministry of Finance. And now what do we see, Mr. Speaker ? We see this PLP Government intent on taking away the Tourism Authority’s independence—the very independence that has helped the BTA bring new life to a dying industry. Will the PLP’s proposed interference mean that the BTA will soon resemble the current Gaming Commission, where we still do not have an executive director almost 18 months later after his departure? Mr. Speaker , the Burt administration is behaving as if it were still in opposition. It is doing nothing to ensure real job creation, whether through capital pr ojects or by leveraging the successful initiatives started by the OBA. The OBA recognised that Bermuda needed a series of economic stimuli to rev erse the painful six - year recession and achieve real economic growth. The OBA developed. The OBA delivered. The OBA turned the economy around. But still more is clearly needed. Where is the Burt administration’s economic stimulus? The Throne Speech certai nly did not tell us. Mr. Speaker , this administration recently announced it is refinancing some of its more expensive debt with lower cost debt. Such financial management tools can save government millions. I am duty -bound to remind the people of Bermuda that this was pi oneered by the OBA —something the Premier will never acknowledge. Even more interesting is the Premier’s boast that Government revenues are up. But the reality is they are only up because the PLP Government raised taxes on Bermudians. Gover nment revenue is not up because of any direct inward investment attracted by the PLP Government. Is Government’s growth plan simply to hire more civil servants? Mr. Speaker , the OBA is proud of its record whilst in Government. Despite the bleating from t he PLP in Opposition and their related “pop- up” mov ements, who falsely claimed the OBA did not care about Bermudians, it is clear for all to see that it was the OBA that delivered for Bermudians: • It was the OBA that increased employment opportunities for B ermudians. • It was the OBA that negotiated a 10 per cent discount for groceries. • It was the OBA that attracted direct inward i nvestment for the benefit of all. • It was the OBA —
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members. Hon. L. Craig Cannon ier: It was the OBA that signed agreements with Airbnb and developed the Tourism Investment Act, which the Burt administration took credit for. • It was the OBA that started the conversations and began work on roadside sobriety testing. • It was the OBA …
Members, Members.
Hon. L. Craig Cannon ier: It was the OBA that signed agreements with Airbnb and developed the Tourism Investment Act, which the Burt administration took credit for. • It was the OBA that started the conversations and began work on roadside sobriety testing. • It was the OBA that allowed for cannabis oil to be used for medicinal purposes. • It was the OBA that reinvigorated the Old Town of St. George with a Heritage Tax, a dedicated cruise ship, returned wharfage to the Corporation and, of course, attracted a world -class hotel developer. • It was the OBA that reduced health care costs for all Bermudians. • It was the OBA that brought not just one world -class event to Bermuda, but two—the America’s Cup and the World Triathlon S eries. • It was the OBA that put Bermuda on track to actually balance the budget by 2019. • It was the OBA that gave tourists options with mini car rentals. • It was the OBA that started negotiations with NASA to allow for the tracking station to be reopened. • It was the OBA that protected our satellite slot rights. • It was t he OBA that tackled rising energy costs. • And yes, it was the OBA that helped those less fortunate in Bermuda through a progressive payroll tax. All of this, plus so much more. And we did it despite—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —the partisan shouting, despite the misleading [statements] and heckling from the other side, as we can hear now. Despite the prop-aganda spread so thick by some of those “pop- up” campaigns. Mr. Speaker , Bermudians are starting to see the hypocrisy of the Burt …
Members, Members.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —the partisan shouting, despite the misleading [statements] and heckling from the other side, as we can hear now. Despite the prop-aganda spread so thick by some of those “pop- up” campaigns. Mr. Speaker , Bermudians are starting to see the hypocrisy of the Burt administration—what the PLP opposed while in Opposition and what the PLP now support as Government. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 43
Bermuda House of Assembly The most recent example of this hypocrisy is the St. Regis development, which was consistently undermined by the then PLP Opposition in respect of beach access. Now, as the project ramps up, the very same PLP Members who made the misleading stat ements to the public in Opposition are now in Gover nment. So they hold a press conference to dispel the very rumours they created. Now, as the Government, they assure the people of Bermuda the beach at Gate’s Bay will remain open to the public — unbelievable! It is hypocritical indeed that the PLP, now in Government, talks about regularising the position of many long- term residents and, we understand, giving statu s to various categories of people. And yet the same people now in the PLP Government were the same ones who protested vociferously, the same ones who stoked anti -foreigner sentiment on a regular uninhibited basis when in Opposition. And there are numerous other examples of the PLP flip- flopping since they have taken the reins of power. Take the former Minister of Home Affairs, who supported same- sex marriage, but then pushed through legislation to ban it.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members . . . Members. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Take the former Minister of Transport. He licensed more mini cars even though he stood in front of the taxi drivers and spoke against mini cars. Take the former Minister of Tourism, now in charge of propaganda, who lambasted the …
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Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Take the former Minister of Transport. He licensed more mini cars even though he stood in front of the taxi drivers and spoke against mini cars. Take the former Minister of Tourism, now in charge of propaganda, who lambasted the BTA on a regular basis, who attacked the BTA incorrectly for the audit procedures. Now he goes out of his way to associate himself with the BTA successes. Take the calls by the PLP, when in Oppos ition, for a Commission of Inquiry on land grabs at Tucker’s Poi nt. Now that the PLP is Government, the land grab call has fallen away. Instead, on the heels of PLP calls for independence, they hold a colonial -style high tea at Tuc ker’s Point to celebrate their women’s caucus. To cel ebrate those whose silence was deaf ening over the Minister of National Security’s awful display of harassment of female store clerks in London whilst representing Bermuda abroad. How’s that for hypocrisy? Take the PLP’s open criticism of the new Bermudian Chief Justice, based solely on hi s ethnic ity. It all adds up to a national disgrace. It exposes the true feelings of the Burt administration about anyone who is not a part of their elitist clique. Mr. Speaker , my colleagues and I are disappointed at the lack of detail in the Throne Speech, which probably should be called “Throne Speech Lite.” The overall impression is that the PLP has already run out of ideas. In fact, my OBA colleagues should in many instances be flattered. After all, imitation, it is said, is the greatest form of flat tery. I say this because the PLP has either conti nued to implement OBA policies or has simply dusted off work that was in progress or proposed under the OBA. This has included a sex offender’s register, an Events Authority to leverage the America’s Cup and World Triathlon Series successes, the workforce development plan, further municipality reform, amendments to allow for a marina in St. George’s, vertical farming, codified labour legislation, continued imm igration reform and even discussion of a living wage. The PLP’s “new” arbitration centre has been spoken about and discussed for many years. Mr. Speaker , the PLP has been in power for 15 of the last 20 years. Yes, 15 of the last 20 years. Yet despite GDP growth from 2001 to 2010, the r esultant debt from PLP overspending between 2003 and 2010 set the dial for disaster. The former PLP Government, with no savings and already up to its eyes in debt, was forced to massively increase taxes. Payroll taxes surged by 14 per cent—a fateful decision that expedited the exodus of back office support functions in IB, shedding signif icant Bermudian jobs in human resource and admi nistration departments across the Island. Further jobs were also sent to offices overseas. As companies contracted, both in international business and in the local economy, entry -level jobs were the first to disappear. Young Bermudians either stayed abroad after school or left our shores looking for greener pastures. Mr. Speaker , our residential population dropped a shocking 10 per cent almos t overnight due to the situation created by years of [PLP] mismanagement and their failed economic and immigration policies. As Bermudians all know, international bus iness and, to a lesser extent, tourism are the two main industries by which Bermuda captures the foreign capital necessary to drive consumption and inves tment in our economy. Although international business captures an incredible amount of foreign capital, not enough of this permeates into the local economy. The highest earners in any economy spend the smallest percentage of their income on consum ption. Therefore they can dedicate the highest percentage of their income to investment and savings. Private pension schemes now trail personal savings as the largest category of outbound cash flows f rom our shores. Mr. Speaker , the unfortunate by -product of these two factors is that despite generating a substantial amount of savings from employment within our economy, Bermuda must still import the capital nec44 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly essary to finance business, especially loc al business, from overseas. Mr. Speaker , interest on mortgages and other bank loans is now also being shipped abroad because our local banks have significant foreign shareholders and bank profits earned locally are being sucked out of our economy. Our nat ional debt is no exception to this cash exodus. We are now sending $500,000 per day overseas in debt service costs. Mr. Speaker , Bermudian- owned and operated businesses are feeling the cash crunch as Bermuda’s banks are shunning local business loans in favour of investment products. Our local businesses are also still suffering from the effects of the great 2010 popu-lation exodus, which destroyed domestic consum ption. The recent introduction by the Burt admi nistration of a de facto income tax on small and medium Bermudian owned and operated businesses has further negatively impacted their ability to survive. The effect of consumption taxes on disposable income and the overall falling business and consumer confidence completes the downward spiral. Mr. Speaker , concessions were made to lower earners when the OBA was in Government (and rightly so) through progressive payroll tax and raising the threshold on taxable income on the highest earners. Both of these were progressive policies to ensure a fairer collection of payroll tax. The PLP gave concessions on employee and employer contributions to payroll tax for small and medium start -ups, which certainly assist with critical year -one expenses. However, wit hout stimulating total demand in the local economy, the chances of success in years two and three will conti nue to be limited. Mr. Speaker , the Government’s previous announcement of the doubling of guarantee capital at the Bermuda Economic Development Corporation [BEDC] may sound good politically, but in real ity it does nothing. The existing loan guarantee capital at BEDC was only at about 30 per cent capacity. As I have already mentioned, the real struggle for Berm udian entrepreneurs is getting access to bank loans. What Bermuda needs is more financing options, not [meaningless] political gestures. The OBA, therefore, proposes that private pension schemes invest a portion of their portfolios locally. We also propose that all companies that operate in Bermuda, including those in the exempted space, participat e in the mandatory private pension scheme. This will help mitigate the immediate outflow of capital from our shores and drive the development of our local capital market. The Bermuda Stock E xchange has seen a marked decrease in the participation of local non- finance companies over the years. Mr. Speaker , the 60/40 rule should also be amended again, so that all Bermuda residents may qualify under the 60 per cent ownership portion, sub-ject to a carefully designed set of criteria. This will allow more of the wealth already on the Island to be invested into our economy, which again increases the availability of domestic capital. This provides more competition for the banks, which will drive better lend-ing rates for Bermudians. Mr. Speaker , we must also pass bankruptcy legislation. The ability to fail, and rise again, is essen-tial to innovation. It is essential to business creation. Our present framework makes it far too difficult to start again. Bankruptcy legislation is essential to the development of a successful entrepreneurship ecosystem. Bermuda can be a hub of innovation. We must create not only the educational programmes, but also the legal framework, so that when business start -ups encounter risk this need not be life- ending. Accordingly, the BMA shoul d be empowered through legislation and budget to monitor the effects of legislation on our economy. The BMA should have a specialised economic unit, staffed with trained economists. The BMA should also have the ability to monitor —and regulate if necessary —the fees that banks charge, both for services as well as lending to deposit spread. The Government should also review each and every public service and department to see which ones can be funded by Government, but delivered by the private sector, in order to inject much- needed i nnovation into those services. There could even be models whereby the same civil servants that presently deliver the services could be empowered through ownership in the newly spun- off ventures. Government could provide fixed term multi -year contracts to ensure a stable income stream. This would allow these entrepreneurs to expand and reinvest, thereby delivering more successful outcomes. The efficiencies created will lead to more ec onomic activity and increased growth. The same em-ployees will benefit from the resulting profits previously lost to bureaucratic inefficiencies. Business man-agement support can be provided from Government during the transition period. At the end of the period, the economy will have a more competitive and efficient service delivery system, a new generation of small and medium business owners, and—in the m edium to long term —a more productive tax dollar spend. Mr. Speaker , we propose that Government adopt a ladder scheme whereby small businesses progressively gain access to larger Government contracts. The first rung of the ladder would be for smaller contracts, thereby affording small businesses r esponding to their first Request For Proposal (RFP) greater chances of success. After the first success, both Government and the small businesses will find comfort signing contracts for the successively larger and more complex jobs higher up the ladder. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 45
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker , we are supportive of using blockchain and other technologies to make doing business more efficient. This, however, is a dangerous game. The widespread introduction of technology into Government could result in hundreds of Bermudian jobs being lost and without a growing local economy. Where will those people made redundant find jobs? We know, also, that there are many parts of government that run on independent computer sy stems that will not easily communicate with other gov-ernment systems. Unifying all of this is going to be very expensive and we will watch closely how this becomes a reality. It is very interesting indeed that the implementation of this has been placed by the Premier under his own ever -so-watchful eye. How this type of project is going to affect the balancing of the budget remains to be seen. We recognise that there are already companies using legitimate blockchain applications for their businesses, but the opportunities for Bermudians and Bermudian jobs have been massively overhyped. Mr. Speaker , we are disappointed that the Government is putting all Bermudians’ hopes and dreams in the FinTech basket. The OBA questions why the PLP is tying Bermuda’s flag to the crypto mast. Cryptocurrency is seen by many experts as a pyramid scheme or tool for illicit transaction. Cryptocurrencies are being closely watched by the international financial regulators because of the inherent risks of tax evasion, fraud and other criminal activity. Latest GDP figures show that International Business still contributes five times that of tourism to our GDP. The Island’s hard- earned, unblemished i nternational reputation is a fundamental cornerstone for success, and necessary for all those who either work in that sector or depend on it for business. Taken in this context, Bermudians should question whether the PLP Government’s headlong pursuit of virtual currency exposes Bermuda’s biggest industry, insurance and reinsurance, to unnecessary reputational risk. We only need to scratch the surface of Arbitrade and its supposed billions of bullion to understand the reputational risks involved. Bermuda has come too f ar in the last 30 years in developing the international business sector to have it undermined by pinning our hopes on something so speculative. More to the point, when will the jobs the PLP has promised for Bermudians come to fruition? They will be as elusive as the audited accounts for A rbitrade—so enthusiastically supported by the Premier and his National Security Minister. It took almost 40 years for Bermuda’s tourism industry to fully flower. It took almost 30 years from the creation of Bermuda’s fi rst exempt insurance company until that sector blossomed into a major pillar of our economy. Are Bermudians prepared to wait another 30 or 40 years for this new virtual sector to bloom? Can we afford to wait that long? Or wait even just another four years for the Burt administration to turn the pursuit of FinTech as a whole into something tangible for unemployed Bermudians? Mr. Speaker , Bermudians should also consi der whether the reputational risk of the shadier sides of FinTech could add to the ongoing hostile threats to the future of our business model. Such threats i nclude: the Anti -Overseas Territory Legislation recently passed by the British Parliament; the recent Anti - Money Laundering assessment by the Caribbean F inancial Action Task Force; there are anti-Bermuda threats coming from the EU Code of Conduct Group; there is the uncertainty of Bermuda’s relationship with the EU, post Brexit; there are the growing tariff measures between USA and China, and its inflationary effects on Bermuda consumers. Mr. Speaker , let me remind you that it was the OBA that first allowed the importation of cannabis - derived products for medicinal use to ease people’s suffering. It was the OBA that decriminalised possession of small amounts in order to keep people off the Stop List. That said, Mr. Speaker , we are generally supportive of the principle behind this Government’s r ecent announcements. However, we have concerns that this is merely a politically motivated announc ement. There are very significant obstacles, not leas t of which are the potential challenges of getting banks to accept the proceeds —just as with crypto- business and gaming. We look forward to an honest and transparent conversation on how these issues will proceed. Mr. Speaker , as regards the issue of making social insurance progressive, the Burt administration has followed the lead of the OBA in respect of pr ogressive payroll tax. It is right and just that those that can afford to pay more do so. Yet we fear the complexity and cost of this new tax may be a step too far for small and medium businesses, especially in the wake of all the new PLP taxes this year. Small bus inesses are already suffering. Why does the PLP insist on penalising them further? Mr. Speaker , the OBA will do whatever is within the realm of possibility to lower health care costs. And we did that when we were in power. How-ever, the Burt administration is not the best gover nment to address this, as has been demonstrated by the cash for friends and family payment of $1.2 mi llion. Mr. Speaker , does the Premier not understand that the people of Bermuda know exactly what is go-ing on here? We note, Mr. Speaker , with interest that the Government has claimed that they will act to change the way Bermuda pays for health care and make it 46 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly more affordable by expanding access to coverage at better rates. The last time we heard this was 2012, when they released their first National Health Plan. Many will remember that this plan was widely discredited; not even the PLP advanced the plan in their 2012 elect ion platform. It was ditched because actuarial reviews demonstrated that the plan would have signi ficantly raised premiums for Bermudians and was f inancially unsustainable. Although the Government has provided few details to support their promises this ti me around, some of the same discredited concepts are resurfacing. It is simplistic to suggest that simply pooling risk will lower health care costs for everyone. In fact, it may increase premiums for both employers and employees as Government attempts to s hift the growing burden of providing health care to our seniors and unemployed onto workers and businesses. It is unlikely that there will be any meaningful reductions in health care costs until Government is prepared to tackle the main drivers of increas ing costs, which are over -utilisation and unrestrained pr ovider fees. Let me repeat that the reason health costs are so high is due to overuse of certain services. It is noticeable that Premier Burt has outlined nothing in this Throne Speech to tackle the root cause of our health care costs. The reality is that within five years health care costs will reach $1 billion. Mr. Speaker , we believe that a public register to track utilisation across the whole system will lead to a more transparent and meaningful conversation about which services are being over utilised. This will remove the ability for those with vested interests to divert progress towards a sustainable and affordable health care solution for all Bermudians. Mr. Speaker , as for energy, everyone w ants lower energy costs and it is worth noting that energy costs have gone up under the Burt administration. Rather than simply using catch phrases, the Gover nment must deal with BELCO. The problems between BELCO management and its employees are not a matter just for that company, but for all of Bermuda. It is not clear what role the Government is playing in these discussions, but it is vital that Government represents everyone’s interests. There must be a comprehensive solution to the BELCO stalemate; one that management, shar eholders, staff, as well as the consuming public can live with. No type of job- creating capital investment in Bermuda can be made with confidence if the Island has uncertainty over the reliability and affordability of electric power. Bermuda already has some of the most expensive electrical energy in the world. We support the continued efforts to drive renewable energy solutions. Bermudians deserve an energy gener a-tion model that is sustainable, affordable and independent. I just wa nt to pause for a moment to welcome the Premier. We are very confused, however, at Premier Burt’s doublespeak about energy costs. He says that “high energy costs are among the first factors cited by investors and developers as a barrier to doing bus iness in Bermuda” and also rightly recognises that those same high costs are hurting working class Ber-mudians. How does charging developers more for their energy through a new progressive tax encourage them to invest and create jobs in Bermuda? Mr. Speaker , we are delighted that the PLP Government is continuing with the work outlined in the Bermuda 2022 Education Plan born in April 2016 under the One Bermuda Alliance Government. With the agreed objective to develop a strat egic planning approach that was transparent, inclusive, engaging and most importantly, community driven. The plan’s overall intent was to drive a progressive, sound, credible public education experience for our children. Mr. Speaker , entering the 2018 Parliamentary year, out of a sense of transparency, one would have thought that the Government would have given the country a status report of the plan’s strategic priorities and what has been achieved to date, especially as it relates to student excellence and development. Mr. Speaker , the Throne Speech indicated that black Bermudians are falling behind in gaining access to higher education. To address this, the Government indicated that the current financial aid grant will be increased to ensure that even more young and mature students who have the ability, but not the means, are not hindered from attending Bermuda College. This is good and is worth the effort. However, the real question is What has the Government done to ensure that our young people are being prepared to enter not only the Berm uda College, but other international universities and colleges in the UK, Canada, and the US? Mr. Speaker, what would an OBA Gover nment do? We would budget per term for teachers to buy supplies and equipment for classrooms. Teachers continue to underwrite the cost of supplies and equipment under a PLP Government, who broke a promise to bring this practice to an end. We would establish an independent standards board—the education equivalent of the Attorney General —to provide independent and objective report s on schools and overall student performance. We would review the need to classify schools as aided and maintain schools, establish a professional development centre for teachers to focus on teaching skills, effective classroom discipline and ongoing training, and set high standards for hiring teachers and insist on performance in classrooms. 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Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, an OBA Government would also reduce the number of school holidays so that they are aligned with other G20 countries, so that students spend more time in the school, and extend the school day to allow for time for the arts, as well as sports and academic support, incorporate coding training into schools and explore same- sex schools for male st udents that would combine a solid economic foundation with a str ong technical education curriculum to provide good career options upon graduation. Mr. Speaker, I will not stop there as education is critical to the future of this Island. We would create standards for a national physical fitness programme that addresses health, exercise and diet beginning in primary school. We would create a specialist team for each school that provides academic, remedial and social assistance to students and parents and allocate resources for support and counselling. We would i nves t in continuing education and retraining and par tner with the business community, unions, and the Bermuda College to define the skills required for pr ofessional and trade careers. As this Government has continued many of our policies, I will be happy and supportive if they adopt these education policies, as well. Mr. Speaker, I always think that if it is a good idea, then use it. Removing politics from tourism brought results. We believe that an independent Education Authority would do similar great works for our children. Our young people are losing hope and are being attracted to gangs. Mr. Speaker, there are glaring omissions in the “Throne Speech Lite” in respect of dealing with gang violence and the increasing gun play in our streets. This, despite the fac t that there is a very well -compensated pastor allegedly in total control. Frankly, the reintroduction of parish constables just does not cut it, and neither does a chicken farm. With that in mind, it is disturbing indeed to see the overall lack of focus i n identifying vulnerable youth. We need to fund more artistic outlets and give more tangible support for the arts and creative com-munity and a published policy needs to be adopted to govern the special education programmes in schools. Many at -risk children are placed in “special ed” simply because they are disruptive, even though they do not have a learning disability. This denies services to chi ldren who require special education support and causes disruptive children to miss out on mastering the content t hey should be learning. Many of these chi ldren are at risk of gang initiation and other nefarious threats. When their files are checked, most of these students are undiagnosed, which means there is no justification for them to be in special education. We s uggest that a high school diploma for special education be considered that is accepted by Bermuda College. Currently, such students are given a Bermuda Alternative School Diploma [BASD], which is not accepted by the Bermuda College or in the US, causing them to have to seek out a GED [ General Education Diploma]. To assist other students to find more opport unities, we encourage more accreditation for Bermuda College. Many young Bermudians cannot afford over-seas education and should be given better opportunities for certificates and translatable degrees. In addition, we need to update our mental health legislation, which is woefully inadequate, and give greater legislation protection to women and seniors who often are the backbone of a Bermuda family unit. We ignore their needs at our peril. We must take a holistic approach to deal with the rising tide of violence, from the ground up. Vi olence should never be tolerated, but all too often it is an accepted part of our lives. Young people need guidance every day, which is why we will support init iatives to give estranged parents access to their chi ldren. We also note that this year’s Throne Speech shows no intention to support youth programmes this year. After -school sports organisations with appropr iate plans f or keeping young people safe and in a pos itive environment should be supported by Government. We should be focusing our efforts on children ages 5 to 18. Keeping our Island’s children engaged after school in positive programmes gives them less time to be preyed upon by gang members. Mr. Speaker, let me say c ongratulations to Mr. Ottiwell Simmons. The Ottiwell Simmons Arbitration Centre could be used to bring together all the different boards and tribunals under one central roof with administrative support . Bermuda has more than 30 tr ibunals and boards, and people are often confused about which one to go to. The system could be streamlined by bringing them under one roof, which would be of great benefit to Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, there is absol utely nothing in the Throne Speech about the state of the economy, gam-ing, or dealing with transport system issues. Other than imposing higher taxes, there is nothing to encourage growth or give relief to the retail sector. The apparent decision to again r evamp the immigration work permit system reeks of desperation to cover up former Minister’s failings in a department that has lost all credibility in the eyes of the business community in respect of wait times for permits, general lack of eff iciency, and a significant rise in Job Maker rejections. The very statements made by the Government hark back to 2010 when the Department of Immigration was the very definition of overblown bureaucracy and red tape. We are well aware of the instances where top executives left Bermuda as a result of being treated as unqualified asylum seekers rather than as job pr oviders for Bermudians. We absolutely agree that firms that follow the rules should be rewarded, but the fact remains that the 2015 Work Permit Policy introduced 48 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly by the OBA Government was accepted by all stak eholders after extensive consultation. Is it true that the Premier is telling business leaders that the Island needs a population of 80,000 people to be sustainable? Given our declining birth rate, we ask the question, Where are those people going to come from? Mr. Speaker, the OBA was alarmed by the Burt administration’s plan to get involved in the buil ding of affordable housing in the City of Hamilton. It is clear that the Burt administration has learned abs olutely nothing from the previous PLP Government’s disastrous scheme at Grand Atlantic , a scheme overseen by the current Minister of Public Works, responsible for the Bermuda Housing Corporation. By way of reminder, the Grand Atlantic was a colossal waste of money, overpriced, and never utilised, except when the OBA arranged to rent the vacant units to the America’s Cup teams and cover debt payments. With the number of empty properties in Bermuda, we believe incentives for landlords to lease their properties, and incentivising builders with tax friendly lease- tobuy schemes, could assist Bermudians to get onto the first rung of the housing market. Mr. Speaker, in closing, I make a few sobering predictions: The economy will continue to falter. And as it does, the Burt administration will increase its emotive rhetoric to energise the PLP base support and will introduce formal income tax to boost revenue due to the squandering of public money that is the hallmark of the Premier’s, and now ex -Minister of F inanc e, inability to properly manage finances. In fact, it is likely that the Premier relinquished his Finance por tfolio to get distance from the inevitable demonstration of his failures in the next 18 months. I also predict the Premier, or one of his entourage, will continue to promote independence in order to divert attention away from the rising unemployment, falling house prices, and an exodus of business due to the tax and spend policies hidden under the guise of equality. Mr. Speaker, in conclusion, we are disappointed with the “Throne Speech Lite,” and disappointed for the voters that had such high hopes and confidence in the Burt administration. It is “Lite” on ideas, heavy on rhetoric and full of undefined empty promises. Bermudians were promised help but have been taxed on their sugar consumption, their payroll, their vacation rentals, their commercial land, their di vidends, and as a result, too many are suffering. Let me leave you with one final thought, Mr. Speaker. Culturally, Bermuda is not as adv anced as other nations on the issues of women’s rights and equality. We would urge this Government to start the Big Conversation on these issues as a matter urgency. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping] The Speaker: Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Government Whip, the Honourable Member Scott. You have the floor.
DEBATE ON THE 2018 THRONE SPEECH AND REPLY
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there has been one time in my life that I have ever seen my father speechless, and that was during a conversation he had with a family friend. They were having a debate about different i ssues. My dad had an answer for every …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there has been one time in my life that I have ever seen my father speechless, and that was during a conversation he had with a family friend. They were having a debate about different i ssues. My dad had an answer for every question that person threw at him, until they said, Alex, if you are so smart, why aren’t you rich? My question to the Opposition is, If they had done all those things that they said they did, why are they over there and we are over here?
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottSo, Mr. Speaker, the only thing that I have seen that resembles that response that we just heard, were the Brett Kavanaugh hearings— [Laughter]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott—to the point where there was so much emotion (for no reason), there were so many misconceptions or factual . . . [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottYes, so many factual inconsistencies, that I was just waiting for the Opposition Leader to pull out a “creepy calendar” to show on what dates the OBA did what they said they did. But, Mr. Speaker, I am not going to spend my time talking about that so- called “Reply,” …
Yes, so many factual inconsistencies, that I was just waiting for the Opposition Leader to pull out a “creepy calendar” to show on what dates the OBA did what they said they did. But, Mr. Speaker, I am not going to spend my time talking about that so- called “Reply,” because there was a . . . and actually, there is still a tourism campaign entitled “Destination Bermuda.” And this campaign was founded around making Bermuda a more attractive destination to visitors. But what I can do, Mr. Speaker, is take that tourism campaign of Destination Bermuda and put it in the context of the Throne Speech. Because the Speech from the Throne does exactly what that Destination Bermuda c ampaign does for visitors, but for Bermudians. It makes Bermuda a place that people not only want to visit, but a place where people, and mainly Bermudians, want to live. So I just need you to picture this, Mr. Speaker. I am speaking from a pilot’s point of view, being [that] our Premier is a pilot himself. And as a pilot, he unOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 49
Bermuda House of Assembly derstands that the most precarious part of a flight is the approach and the landing. Now, one of the key successful ways to deliver your passengers safely is to know everything about the environment at your destination. Now, this is so key that the FAA [Federal Aviation Administration] has a rule. They have rules that say that a pilot must know all aspects of the flight prior to takeoff, and be well -versed on the landing procedures. And this is where I pick up where the Throne Speech left off. We could be further ahead than where we are right now, Mr. Speaker. But the Premier (Captain Burt, for this example) saw, studied, researched everything that was needed for the potential flight ahead, which started on July 17th last year. And toward the end of the Throne Speech he explains that out of the 125 items that were advanced, 42 were changes to ensure that Bermuda had a successful review from the Cari bbean Financial Action Task Force [ CFATF] asses sment. Right?
[Inaudible interjection]
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottAnd as the Premier says, that is work that the former administration should have started. That is work that the former administration should have done. Right? But I digress. The thing is, Mr. Speaker, knowing that this is what needed to be done in order to create a Bermuda, or …
And as the Premier says, that is work that the former administration should have started. That is work that the former administration should have done. Right? But I digress. The thing is, Mr. Speaker, knowing that this is what needed to be done in order to create a Bermuda, or get us to the destination of a better and fairer Bermuda, the Premier took the time to ensure that onethird of all legislation passed last parliamentary session ensured our success this year. Now, Mr. Speaker, there are key instruments when you are coming in for a landing. And the Premier will know that one of those instruments is called “position indicator” or marker beacon. As long as the pilot has the plane on the proper and correct glide slope, these marker beacons allow the pilot to know exactly where he is throughout the final approach to the runway. So now there are three actual markers. There is your outer marker, your middle marker, and your inner marker. All right? So, now, the outer mar ker, Mr. Speaker, is usually about four to seven miles away from the end of the runway. And so that is us ually the first marker that the pilot will hit, or the first marker the pilot crosses while he makes his way onto the final approach. Now, Mr. Speaker, our outer marker for this context, on our journey toward a better and fairer Bermuda, is income inequality. For far too long Bermudians have had to work too hard, too long, and too many jobs just to make ends meet. Now, working two and three jobs, Mr. Speaker, is what you would hear in other jurisdictions. But here in Bermuda you have had to work three and four jobs to make ends meet, Mr. Speaker. And the other administration did nothing to address that. And this is where the living wage comes in, Mr. Speaker. It was a PLP Member of Par-liament, Mr. Rolfe Commissiong, who piloted it through this House of Assembly, and chaired the Parliamentary Joint Select Committee, and it is the PLP that in their Throne Speech sai d that this is going to be implemented in the next legislative session. So, now, Mr. Speaker, the thing is that this is not about just money. This is about the intangibles. This is about providing a quality of life that Bermudians deserve, but have yet to achieve, Mr. Speaker. This is about making Bermuda not just a better and fairer place, but a safer one, Mr. Speaker. Because if parents, if guardians, are able to work less that means they are able to spend more time with their family. They are able to provide more intangibles to their chi ldren, which makes gang life, which makes antisocial behaviour less attractive. And with that being less attractive, that means they can have more success in other areas and other jurisdictions. And, Mr. Speaker, if you c ombine that liveable wage with the fact that this administration, Captain Burt, the Burt administration, is looking to level the playing field for those members . . . there are members in this community, Mr. Speaker, there are owners and upper management w ho are making roughly $4,000 a week. And then there are employees that are making $4,000 a month. But yet they pay the same tax. That is not fair, Mr. Speaker. That does not put money in Bermudian’s pockets
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberThat needs to be reformed.
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottAnd that needs to be r eformed. And that is what this Government is doing, Mr. Speaker. How can we create a fairer Bermuda, how can we create a better Bermuda, if we did not address income inequality? How can we ensure that every Bermudi an has the same opportunity? …
And that needs to be r eformed. And that is what this Government is doing, Mr. Speaker. How can we create a fairer Bermuda, how can we create a better Bermuda, if we did not address income inequality? How can we ensure that every Bermudi an has the same opportunity? How can we ensure that every Bermudian has the same chances at success if they are not able to access or have the same access to capital? Mr. Speaker, the strength of an economy is the size of the middle class. So, when the mi ddle class, Mr. Speaker, has more disposable income, when the middle class has the cost of living reduced, those savings get filtered back and circulated throughout our economy. And while I talk about the middle class, that brings us to our middle marker. Now, Mr. Speaker, the middle marker on our journey toward a better and fairer Bermuda . . . in av iation the middle marker is usually, I would say, probably about a mile away from the end of the runway, which means that you have made significant progress from where you started when you turned onto the final approach, but you are still not there. You still have a little ways to go. All right? So, Captain Burt has placed in his Throne Speech about the Government’s overall course for the next legislative year to provide an environment in 50 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly which Bermudians could save hundreds of dollars per month on health insurance premiums. Now, Mr. Speaker, How is that going to be done? one might ask. That is by moving forward with a National Health Plan that has sat collect ing dust on the former Government’s shelf since 2012. But yet we have heard from Members on the other side that health insurance and health care were important to them. It could not have been—if you could have reduced health cost, if you could have reduced the cost of prescription medicines, or made them more affordable, but you did nothing. Instead, you made a decision which went against your technical advisors and actually increased the cost of health to every person in this country. Now, while you do that, while we are utilising the National Health Plan to help reduce the cost of health care, we are also utilising a combination of relative value units and providing a creative pooling option for members of this country, because the bi gger the pool, the lower the health insurance prem iums. And as the Premier said in his Throne Speech, we are looking to reduce the pool from multiple or numerous pools, to maybe just one or two big pools. So, Mr. Speaker, we are almost at that inner marker. At that point . . . as the Premier who is a pilot knows, before you get to that inner marker, you, by rules, have to be able to see or observe the runway environment before you can proceed any further. Now, the runway environment includes lights, runway markings, so on and so forth. But the thing is, the environment at our destination for a better and fairer Bermuda puts more money in the pockets of those low income earners. And the environment in a better and fairer Bermuda makes living in Bermuda more affordable, which means living in Bermuda is more enjoyable, which means that living in Bermuda is more attractive to those Bermudians who fled, who actually created an exodus between 2012 and 2017. So, Mr. Speaker, when you are at your inner marker you are roughly at about 200 feet above the ground. And at that height, at that altitude, if one was to look out the window, one could see the houses. Visitors would be enamoured. Visitors would be enthralled and excited about seeing the pastel colours and the white roofs. But on our destination to a better and fairer Bermuda, when Bermudians look out that window, they would be enamoured, they would be excited about lower mortgage rates, Mr. Speaker, for those homes. They would be excited that it becomes more affordable to own a piece of the rock. Now, Mr. Speaker, in the Throne Speech the Premier has said that if you have a mortgage of $750,000 or less, this Government is going to allow you to take advantage of the competitive nature and the competitive market, the mortgage rate market that is here in Bermuda locally. Between the three banks, one definitely has the highest rate and one has the lowest rate. But right now what stops members of the public, what stops your average Bermudian from tak-ing advantage of those competitive rat es is this big barrier called the “stamp duty.” It is a tax that makes it almost unfeasible to go and transfer your mortgage from one bank to another. This Government recognises this. This Government is connected to the average person. This Government understands what it is to struggle to make ends meet, and the stress in which you feel in your day -to-day life is just because you do not know how you are going to do it by keeping a roof over your head. So we are going to remove that stamp duty. We are going to remove that tax. We are going to remove that barrier to allow families to save just a bit more money. Imagine if someone’s mortgage [payment] could go from $3,000 a month to $2,500; or from $2,500 to $2,000.
[Inaudible interjection]
Mr. W. Lawrenc e ScottAs MP Neville Tyrrell from constituency 26, says, every little bit helps. So, Mr. Speaker, on our way, making our way to our destina-tion of a better, fairer, and safer Bermuda, in these few minutes I have been able to show you how the average Berm udian, through this Throne …
As MP Neville Tyrrell from constituency 26, says, every little bit helps. So, Mr. Speaker, on our way, making our way to our destina-tion of a better, fairer, and safer Bermuda, in these few minutes I have been able to show you how the average Berm udian, through this Throne Speech, is able to save money on health insurance, is able to make more money through a liveable wage, and is now able to afford their home and save money through mortgages. But, Mr. Speaker, I would be remiss if I did not addres s those members of our society for whom this relief comes just maybe a little too late. Maybe the last four years, from 2012 to 2017, they just took a little bit too much out of them. They tried to hold on as long as they could, and the PLP might not have come just in time for them, but help is on the way because, you know what? For those who are now in front of collection agencies, for those who are having debt collectors calling and harassing them, for those who have debt collectors threatening to take that home that they are struggling to hold on to (even though the home was not a part of the original agreement), we have consumer protections coming. Consumer protections will be put in place that will make stuff like that illegal, Mr. Speaker. Which will mean that if it is not a part of the original deal, they cannot go after it. Let’s just say, if you fall on hard times and your house is part of that original deal, they cannot sell your home for, let’s just say . . . and I will put out a hypothetical number. You owe $250,000. You cannot pay it. They sell your home for $150,000. And then they come right now and say, You owe us $100,000. That will not happen.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberHear, hear!
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottThat is something that we are going to tackle. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 51 Bermuda House of Assembly We are going to have it so that consumer pr otections are put in place so if they sell your home, if they sell that asset, you are not …
That is something that we are going to tackle. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 51
Bermuda House of Assembly We are going to have it so that consumer pr otections are put in place so if they sell your home, if they sell that asset, you are not liable for anything [else] or any other shortcomings. That is what this Throne Speech is about. That is what the Bermuda PLP, Progressive Labour Party, is doing for Bermudians. So you will hear Members of this legislature, you will hear members of this community go out and tell you things that are not correct. You will hear Members tell you things that are more speaking thei r opinion [than] as fact. But, Mr. Speaker, I tell you today that this Throne Speech . . . although members of the public said our last Throne Speech was too business -centric, this is a departure from that one. And I explained in the beginning why it seemed business -centric, because we had to ensure that the country and the country’s economy were protected by ensuring that we were prepared for the upcoming assessment. So, Mr. Speaker, I do not want to speak too long because I believe that in my time I have outlined some of those main focus points, the main benefits that Bermudians will see. I have shown you the different markers, and these are things that Bermudians can look out on and say, Hold on. Where is that stamp duty relief? Hold on. Where are you with helping to reduce health care through the National Health Plan? And what about consumer protection and lower mor tgage rates? One thing I noticed about the Opposition’s Reply is that they used the word “was” a lot, which is past tense. And in the Throne Speech we use the word “will,” which is future. That means that som ebody in this Honourable Chamber is looking to the past for validation, while another group is looking to the future. My church, Mr. Speaker —and the Honourable Wayne Furbert will ask, What church? Cobbs Hill Methodist, built by slaves in the moonlight.
Mr. Speaker. I got a little touched.
The SpeakerAll right. Do not get carried away now. Do not get carried away. Remember what platform you are on.
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottI am not getting carried away, Mr. Speaker. I am going where the spirit moves me, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottAnd, Mr. Speaker, the Good Book says, Without vision, the people perish. So when you hear us in the PLP say, ‘ We will do this and we are going to do that ,’ that means we have a vision for the future.
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottThank you. And, Mr. Speaker, the Good Book also asks for members to pray for those in authority over them. So I am asking that Members pray for . . . the Honourable Member Wayne Furbert says, Pray for the OBA. I am actually saying that members of the public …
Thank you. And, Mr. Speaker, the Good Book also asks for members to pray for those in authority over them. So I am asking that Members pray for . . . the Honourable Member Wayne Furbert says, Pray for the OBA. I am actually saying that members of the public pray for their Government, which is comprised of both a Government and an Opposition. Right? Therefore, we can get this vision and take this vision and bring it to fruition so that everybody can see relief. OBA Members can see relief. PLP Members can see relief. Because we are not just a Government for PLP m embers, we are a Government for everybody. Because everybody voted us in! Everybody voted us in, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what I want to do in closing is to say to those Members, because I understand that these proceedings are not just broadcast locally, they are broadcast internationally via the www.parliament.bm website. So those Bermudians who are listening overseas, those Bermudians who are listening in England that were a part of the emigr ation out, because you found it too hard to survive here, because you did not feel as though the opport unities were available for you to make it in your own country, I say, Come back! I say to all of you, Come back! Mr. Speaker, the thing is that part of the PLP’s immigration policy, part of the PLP’s immigration plan is to invite Bermudians back to the country. Come home! Because we may not be promising jobs like a former administration did, but we promise to create an environment where job creation is favourable. And that is by helping to reduce the cost of living, helping to reduce the cost of operating in Bermuda. And do you know who has noticed [and] believes in this v ision, Mr. Speaker? The FinTech companies. FinTech companies are successful because they can see vision before it comes to fruition. FinTech companies are successful because they get in on the ground floor of big things and big ideas. So, Mr. Speaker, I indulge you [to allow] me to go out and plead to Bermudians that are out there. There are thousands of Bermudians who have left, and we are hoping t hat we can get thousands of Ber52 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly mudians to come back. Take part in your community; take part in your country, because now we understand. There is a Government that can walk with kings, but not lose the common touch. Mr. Speaker, all those who know what 1906 stands for, know what I just said. And for those who are not fortunate enough to understand and know what 1906 stands for, that means we may be a Government, we may be leaders of this community, leaders of this country, but we have not forgotten where we came from. We have not forgotten the foundations on which this party was built on. Therefore, we make sure that the policies that are put in place now are transformational and not transactional. The policies that are put in place now help transform Bermudian lives, help transform Bermudians so that they know that they can be successful in anything they try to be successful in. The policies that we put in place now provide a level playing field not just for Bermudians today, for Bermudians tomorrow, but for generations to come. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
[Desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Deputy Leader of the O pposition, Madam Scott. Madam Scott, you have the floor .
Ms. Leah K. ScottThank you, Mr. Speaker. After that sermon, I think we should all take some communion and go home. [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIf the meeting is going home early, you got my support. [Laughter]
Ms. Leah K. ScottMr. Speaker, governing is a challenge. And I am sure that this Government is finding that governing is a challenge, just like the OBA found it a challenge when we were Government. You have to satisfy your ministers and your backbenchers. You have to satisfy your local and international business …
Mr. Speaker, governing is a challenge. And I am sure that this Government is finding that governing is a challenge, just like the OBA found it a challenge when we were Government. You have to satisfy your ministers and your backbenchers. You have to satisfy your local and international business community. You have to satisfy the community at large. And all have varying expectations and interests and ideas. So how do you meet them all? Mr. Speaker, the overarching theme of the Throne Speech is to reduce the cost of living. A nd that is a challenge in and of itself. Bermuda Government’s import duties are its second highest source of rev enue, after payroll taxes. So how do we replace that source of revenue in a way that allows us to reduce the cost of living, but still maintain the level of revenue which is needed for the country? We also have the highest number of civil servants per capita in the world, Mr. Speaker, which means that we have to make some changes to our civil service, which is a challenge because the civil service is the largest employer of people in Bermuda. So I agree wholeheartedly that there has to be efforts made to reduce the cost of living. But what are those things that we can do to reduce the cost of li ving? Now, I know that there have been some exem ptions on the import of certain food items when they come into the Island. My concern is that while those exemptions are granted to grocers, are those exem ptions being passed on to the consumer? And if they are not being passed on, then there should be some form of penalty, because if a grocer is . . . by way of example. If a grocer is bringing in (I don’t know) chicken, and he pays absolutely no duty on that chicken, the cost of bringing it in may be $3.00. Why does he have to sell it to me for $13.00? He can s ell it to me at $5.00 and he can still make a profit. So things like that need to be addressed. We are looking at renewable energy as a way of reducing costs and helping us to go green. One of the things that I was thinking that we could do in terms of a ssisting seniors is having a government - subsidised solar panel programme, or you know, having a programme where people that use solar property or solar energy get some sort of reduction. The cost of living just cannot just be reduced by just saying that we want to reduce it. We have to have some realistic approaches and we have to recognise that our juri sdiction is peculiar. The things that might work in other places may not necessarily work here in Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, we amended the Cost of Living Comm ission Amendment Act to add additional members and it was thought that adding additional members would assist in the formulation of ideas and suggestions as to how best to reduce the cost of living. My understanding is that their mission was to obtain information about import costs and profit margins. And I have not heard anything about a report or any feedback as to what the status of that is and where we are in terms of what they have been able to achieve. Mr. Speaker, in the 2017 Throne Speech, the Premier stated that the plans were to achieve ec onomic growth by creating new jobs. So the attempt to create new jobs has been through the FinTech industry, and attempting to create that as a third pillar of our economy. It is true that since September 2017, thirty FinTech companies have been incorporated. If you will recall, in the earlier part of the year we had four Memorandum of Understandings [MOUs] signed, with Binance, Omega One, Shyft Network, and Medici Ventures. And in the aggregate, there was a prom ise or a commitment of about $25 million, which would enable social programmes, education, training, and other things. At the time the Premier had stated, if I may quote, Mr. Speaker? Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 53
Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes.
Ms. Leah K. Scott“Based on these commitments, . . . ‘We stand to create 120 jobs for Bermudians over the next three years.’ “‘Most significantly, we believe in investing in our people and the institutions that strengthen our communities; so we are encouraging these corporate partners to tangibly do the s ame with …
“Based on these commitments, . . . ‘We stand to create 120 jobs for Bermudians over the next three years.’ “‘Most significantly, we believe in investing in our people and the institutions that strengthen our communities; so we are encouraging these corporate partners to tangibly do the s ame with educ ation, our community sporting clubs and in training Bermudians.’” [ BermudaReal 2 June 2018] Now, Mr. Speaker, I have not seen any jobs come from FinTech other than the work permits for the people who are here setting up the FinTech industry. I know that it takes time for these things to happen, but I want to know whether or not this is going to be a true pillar of our economy, and when are the commitments that were made by these four companies, who came here with great fanfare . . . there were people in the Gallery, and press conferences. They might as well have thrown confetti in the Chamber. But what has happened since that time? Binance is in Malta, and they are looking for jurisdictions where there is a light regulatory touch. They do not want to be restricted in any way. What about their commitment to Bermuda? Is it going to happen? Or is it just something that we just have to say, Oh, well. This isn’t going to work this time. That is $15 million that we are not going to have. There are people in Bermuda who are not going to be educated. It’s lost money. We lost it as soon as we found it. Mr. Speaker, I understand that Americ a’s Cup is a thorn in the side of the PLP Government. The fact of the matter is that the PLP does not want to always acknowledge that the America’s Cup created a boon for our country. I actually did do an interview, and my parliamentary colleague said that I was confusing apples with oranges by stating that America’s Cup and FinTech were similar. What I was saying is not that they are similar in industry, what I was saying was that America’s Cup came to Bermuda and they decided to invest in Bermuda and they did what they said they were going to do. We have the Endeavour Programme, Mr. Speaker, which continues to go on. PwC funded it for a further three years. We have over 2,200 Bermudians who have passed through the Endeavour Pr ogramme and they have been taught the STEAM [Sc ience, Technology, Engineering, Arts and Mathematics] subjects, as well as social skills from sailing. They have learned how to be team players. They have also learned how to be independent and individual managers. That is the investment that America’s Cup has made in our people. They have contributed to our GDP [gross domestic product]. The Government’s statistical report clearly states that this economy got a boon from America’s Cup. So my comment about FinTech and America’s cup is that America’s Cup made the investment. Those billionaires came here and they were criticised because they were supposed to be directed to a certain class of people. But the billionaires from FinTech are not making that same investment in our country. When are we going to see that? When are they going to give us the $25 million? When is the Education Centre going to be started. We have Aribitrade, and you know, when they did research on Aribitrade, its office was on top of a dress shop. Do they exist? Are they going to be able to do the things that they said that are going to do? I know that they have incorporated three companies: Arbitrade Ltd, Arbitrade Exchange (Bermuda) [Ltd.], and Arbitrade Property Holdings [Ltd.]. And the Property Holdings company (I guess) is the one that is going to hold the land at Victoria Hall. Beyond that, though, what are they going to do? Are they a viable company? Are they going to be able to do the things that they say they want to do for our country? I’m not attacking, but I am all for anything that is going to create jobs for Bermuda and put money into our economy and support our economy. So I want to see these things come to fruition. I am not criticising. All I am saying is, Where are the jobs? For every $100 that was inves ted by Gover nment in America’s Cup, we got a return back of $500. Are we getting that same return from FinTech? Will we get that same return? And if I may quote again, Mr. Speaker, in the [Department of] Statistics report, it states that our economy’s “gr owth was attributed to increased construction activity associated with the 35 th America’s Cup [event], residential renovation, airport development and hotel development.” Even the hair dressing industry got an increase from America’s Cup, Mr. Speaker. So, I recognise that there are challenges. I believe that the Government is trying to create an env ironment for businesses to be established here, but the truth is that we live in a global world. We do not necessarily have to have boots on the ground in Bermuda anymore. People can work virtually. We also have the general challenges facing us, such as the economic substance issue, where the UK is imposing upon us the requirement for anybody that has a bus iness here to demonstrate that the economic sub-stance from that business is earned in Bermuda. In addition, Mr. Speaker, today there was an article that has been put out that said, “Corporate America flees zero- tax Caribbean havens after crackdown. ” [PostBulletin 15 November 2018] So what we are having are a lot of the multi - US companies leaving no- tax jurisdictions to go onshore. Trump has made onshore as attractive as it is offshore, so now most of the people who are offshore are here not for tax purposes, but for other reasons. But with all of the regulatory requirements that are coming down the pike, it is making it very uncomfort able for them to be here. So if we lose that business, 54 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly we lose jobs; we lose revenue; we lose people who are contributing to our economy; we lose people who are creating jobs, and we do not have a substitute for that. We have tourism, Mr. Speaker, which for the second year in a row has had record numbers. But there is a concern that there will be a change to the legislation which will compromise its independence. We have already had the independence of the Gaming Commission compromised. We do not have an executive director. We do not have anybody interes ted in coming to Bermuda to be the executive director. And we do not have the ability to process any of the funds, if we were ever to get a casino off the ground. So my question is: We have a whole Gaming Commission set up, what are the people who are currently working there now doing? There is no executive director. There is no prospect right now of being able to have a bank or a gaming industry, so what are they doing? Are we paying for something that is just not going to happen? Are we throwing good money after bad? I am not trying to knock anybody out of a job. But all I am saying is that we have something that is sitting there that is quickly becoming an albatross around our neck because it is not going anywhere. I do not want tourism to be one of those albatrosses. Tourism has really taken off. The Airbnb has really taken off. Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda have found a second form of revenue by being able to rent out properties, and I would like to continue to see Bermuda be the destination of choice for many people for a very long time. I am concerned about the possibility of amending the legislation and changing the independence. Kevin Dallas has done a fantastic job. I parti cipated in the National Tourism Plan and we had three or four different sessions with different people around the table with great ideas. And I think that we can continue that, but it has to maintain its independence. Mr. Speaker, there was established last year under the 2017 Throne Speech, the Bermuda First Think Tank. And that Think Tank was supposed to develop a social and economic plan. I have not heard anything about that since the Think Tank was established, so I would be interested in having an update on when the plan will be disseminated, and whether there will be any consultation. It was supposed to cr eate a plan that would sustain long- term economic growth and create jobs. So I would be interested on an update of that. The 2017 Throne Speech said that they were going to improve social conditions in Bermuda. In the budget this year there was no allocation for the Mini stry of . . . what is it? Community Development, or . . . for that Ministry, which a lot of people in our country rely on for financial assistance and other things. Not only that, we have the Minister who worked in that Ministry no longer heading it up. What are we doing about addressing the social issues of Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda if we do not have a Ministry specifically designated to do that with somebody who is able to un-derstand and assist in carrying out the changes that are needed to assist our most vulnerable people? Mr. Speaker, as you know, I sat on the Joint Select Committee for a Living Wage. I support people being able to live in their country and survive in their countr y. I do not know that a living wage is the answer. I believe that a person should be paid for an honest day’s work. But I think that we cannot artificially inflate our economy. We have to make sure that we have the necessary consultation and do all that we need to do before we just implement a [certain] wage. We cannot just pick a number arbitrarily and say, Okay, this is the number. Because if we are not having training and education and social skills and life skills that go along with that increase in inc ome . . . [if] you are paying somebody $20 an hour and they do not know how to manage that, paying them $50 an hour is not going to make a difference. So we have to include education and we have to help people with life skills so that they can manage what they have. I understand that the Premier has suggested that they will create an industry through the develop-ment of medical marijuana. I have seen the effects of medical marijuana, and I am sure everybody has seen probably the . . . maybe it is 60 Minutes where the little girl, Charlotte, was having seizures and the only way that they were able to assist her was through medical marijuana, the Cannabi noid oil, or whatever it is. And I believe that we can be successful with that. My concern is that if we are going to establish a medical marijuana industry, how are we going to manage the dispensaries? How are we going to determine who gets a licence? I believe the Premier stated in his speech that the people who get a licence will be those who have been caught with possession of marijuana, who are on the stop list, so those will be the first people who will be entitled to get a licence. All I am concerned about is that it be monitored properly. We need to make sure that we establish a framework that is effective . We need to determine that we have good product regulations. We need to determine how we are going to distinguish between medical marijuana and recreational marijuana. And, again, we are confronted with the challenge of how we are going to—
Ms. Leah K. ScottWhat was I saying? Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 55 Bermuda House of Assembly [Crosstalk]
Ms. Leah K. ScottThe challenge between medical marijuana and recreational marijuana. We have to make sure that the industry is pr otected and that our people are protected. So who are our farmers going to be? Then you get into the whole . . . like people are going to be breaking into …
The challenge between medical marijuana and recreational marijuana. We have to make sure that the industry is pr otected and that our people are protected. So who are our farmers going to be? Then you get into the whole . . . like people are going to be breaking into marijuana farms and then you need security and you know . . . so do we have enough land mass to have secure fields and pr otect the fields. So do I support medical marijuana? Absolutely! But we have to have a constructive framework to develop it in. I agree that it is an opportunity for entrepreneurs and I hope that it is something that we can do. Oh! That is what it was . . . the challenge is that we are not going to be able to bank the proceeds. That is the problem, because the correspondent banks do not want to take the money. So in the United States, marijuana is legal at a state level, but it is not legal at a federal level. So while you can grow it at a state level, and you do not get penalised if you have it, federally, it is considered a crime, and any proceeds from the sale of it are considered “proceeds of crime.” So our biggest challenge is going to be the correspondent banks. And, you know, I have spoken with some bankers. The bankers are willing to do whatever they can to facilitate the economic growth in this country. But the truth of the matter is that if we do not have a correspondent bank, then we die as a j urisdiction because we cannot get our money in and out of the country. We are not able to facilitate this process ourselves. I think that there are, you know, the initiatives. Like I said, gaming, cryptocurrency, and medical marijuana are good initiatives. But I do not want them to just remain as initiatives. There has to be some implementation, and we have to be able to get all of the ducks to line up in a row so that we can get these things to fly. Finally, Mr. Speaker, energy costs is one of the things that have been addressed. And I know that the Deputy Premier gave a statement the other day talking about electric buses, which I fully support. I fully support going green wherever we can, because we have to protect our environment for the future of our children. I know that the partnership with Rocky Mountain Institute [RMI] is a partnership to, first of all, do some research to determine whether or not electric buses are even viable in Bermuda. You know, I think that along with the research with Rocky Mountain I nstitute there needs to be a coinciding education campaign, because we need to understand the i mportance of reducing our carbon footprint, and we also need to learn how to conserve energy. You know, when I am home, I go from room to room, I turn the lights off when I leave whatever room I am in. I do not have lights on all over my house. But we have to understand energy conservation and I think that, you know, like everything else, there is an education process, there is a learning process, and then there is a change. And change is not comfort able. People do not like to change. But I think that the bottom line, as my colleague, Lawrence Scott, said, is that ultimately, we are not all on a different journey. We are all going the same way. And the same way is, we want a Bermuda that everybody can live in, and live comfortably in. And we want the people who have left Bermuda to come back to Bermuda. But we also have to have something for them to come back to. You know, last week, or the week before last, Tokio Millennium was bought by RenRe, which leaves Bermuda now with only five reinsurance companies. So what are we going to do about creating jobs for Bermudians? Not just creating the environment. You know, I can go out and I can plough my garden and till it and turn it. But if I do not have any seeds to put in it, then nothing is going to grow there. So I think that we all have to work together, and I think that we can make things better for all of Bermuda. But we cannot do it fighting each other and, you know, picking out on everything that everybody does. We have got to work together to create the Bermuda that we all want to live in. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise Minister Brown. Minister Brown, would you like to have the floor? Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on. Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Speaker, I would like to begin by offering a correction to the Deputy Oppos ition Leader. She said that the Bermuda Government has one of the highest per capita rates of civil service employees. That is not actually true. It is about 17 per …
Continue on.
Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Speaker, I would like to begin by offering a correction to the Deputy Oppos ition Leader. She said that the Bermuda Government has one of the highest per capita rates of civil service employees. That is not actually true. It is about 17 per cent or 18 per cent. That is a fairly common percentage around many countries. About 18 per cent of the work force is comprised of public servants in many jurisdictions. So we are right in sync with what is the norm. It just seems like a lot because we are so small, and it seems like they are all around us. But that is the reality. It is not a great aberration at all. Mr. Speaker, I would like to begin by repeating a few comments made by the Opposition Leader. He spoke about the pop- up movements that punct uated the OBA Government. A pop- up movement that was perpetrated on the claim that the Government does not care about the people. Well, the one pop- up movement that I would like to refer to, Mr. Speaker, is the Immigration [Reform] Action Group that resisted 56 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly the immigration reform plans [of] the OBA Gover nment. Those reform plans had in mind the granting of status to thousands of people, and that was protested by thousands of Bermudians, Mr. Speaker. That was not just a pop- up movement. That was a deep- seated movement that captivated the hearts and souls of many thousands of Bermudians. It was no pop- up movement; it was a sincere effort to stop a very div isive piece of legislation. So I just wanted to make that point, Mr. Speaker. It was not simply a pop- up movement. It was a severe challenge to the authority of the Gover nment, and we were victorious. There was a sustained opposition, many different forms of protest, including the shutdown of Parliament. That represented a mil estone in our development as a country, Mr. Speaker. Secondly, the Opposition Leader spoke about my position on same- sex marriage as Home Affairs Minister. My position on same- sex marriage is a matter of public record. I do not shy away from that. What we did as a Government , however, Mr. Speaker, was to change the law to provide for tremendous amounts of benefits for same- sex couples. All benefits of marriage, save for the term “marriage,” including the right to apply for status. That was a fundamental change in the direction of the Government, Mr. Speaker. The OBA did nothing. They allowed for a court decision that allowed for same- sex marriage, but for no benefits whatsoever that would accompany their right to same- sex marriage. Every single right that a person would try t o get would have to be fought [for] in the courts. What we did in one fell swoop with the legislation, Mr. Speaker, was change the law to provide for full benefits for same- sex couples. That was a pr ogressive piece of legislation by all accounts. It is now before the Appeals Court and the Appeals Court will render a decision very shortly. We are hopeful that we will get the right decision. Now, Mr. Speaker, the Government was very bold in its Throne Speech, focusing on inequality —a very bold effort that addressed the question of inequality. And I am going to quote, if I may, Mr. Speaker, from the opening paragraphs of the Speech in which the Premier stated that “. . . s ystemic inequality is the root of much that has created the Bermuda of today .” A failure t o address it will yield discontent, s ocial unrest and economic stagnation. “Yield discontent, social unrest and economic stagnation.” These are three very vital components of the consequences of not being able to tackle inequal ity. And this Throne Speech makes a concerted effort at addressing the effects of inequality. The Premier needs to be commended for his plans for addressing the effects of inequality. One such measure to address the effects of inequality is the mortgage tax relief being proposed, so that if you have a mortgage of $750,000 or less, and you find an opportunity to get a reduced rate at a bank, you could make the transfer to the other bank without having to incur any taxation charges. That is a tremendous boost to the homeowner in search of low interest rates. So that is a great benefit. That is a measure of reducing income inequality, Mr. Speaker. The National Health Insurance Plan to reduce costs, having a single payer system, provides for an opportunity to reduce costs significantly. This is som ething that should be cherished by all. It is a fundamentality important component of my colleague’s (the Honourable Member of Finance) position. And I hope to see this put in place very shortly. It should be of great benefit to all. The liveable wage. Who can survive off $400 a week, Mr. Speaker, $400 or $500 a week? Very few people can, Mr. Speaker. But I posit to you that there were hundreds of people who are earning that amount of money on a weekly basis. [Just] $400 or $500 a week. It is not a liveable wage. It needs to be addressed. We need concerted policies to address this matter and they need to be adopted now. Whether we go with the living wage proposal of the Living Wage Commission, or whether we adopt another approach, we have to find ways to address this issue. You know, it is unacceptable to have a group of people who work full time, 40 hours a week, and are unable to make ends meet. It is just simply unacceptable in this day and age. And we have to find ways to address it. The Berm uda College, Mr. Speaker, is a gem of an opportunity, providing opportunities to help st udents to progress in their life choices. Bermuda College offers many programmes to young people and to not-so-young people. It is a real boon to addressing this income inequality notion. We recently provided a grant of $300,000 to help additional students take courses at Bermuda College. That is a great boost to everyone and it is certainly a great benefit to all. Maternity leave is being extended to 13 weeks. It was a great step forward, recognising the importance of the family. There will be consultation on this point, but it will certainly help out the average person having a child to have extended family leave. It is a great benefit that works as well. [Regarding] t he part of giving fair opportunity, it is the OPMP [Office of Project Management and Procurement] change and procurement policies. We will change the law to allow for international companies that get contracts to require that there be local participation. This is a great benefit to help them to reduce the notion of income inequality , by providing a real opportunity for local companies to get involved in the contract awarding process. We will modernise the operation of the Post Office, making them a one- stop shop for a range of government services: licensing, payments, a lot of the public services. This will help transform the Post O ffice into a far more effective vehicle. It is necessary to do in light of all the changes that are coming around, Mr. Speaker. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 57
Bermuda House of Assembly I want to move on to the quagmire that is i mmigration. Immigration is fraught with conflict and tension, but we have to get the immigration reform pr ocess right. You will know, Mr. Speaker, that I am part of a bipartisan immigration reform action group, w orking under the Minister of National Security, Minister Wayne Caines. We are tasked with looking at imm igration reform processes. We are currently looking at coming up with a proposal for the harmonisation of families that have PRCs [ Permanent Resident’s Certi ficate] . So if one person has a PRC in a family, we are looking at harmonising that process to reduce the ine-quality there. We are also looking at ways in which we can harmonise those families where maybe one person has Bermuda status, to address that issue as well, that inequality. That is an ongoing matter that we are working with, Mr. Speaker. That is a very tense matter, fraught with conflict, but we are working hard to address those issues. The Debt Collection Bill is an important piece of legisl ation. This legislation will address some of the imbalance that exists currently in the debt collection process so that people who owe debts are not unduly harmed by the process. We are going to change the legislation to allow for minimum interference with the debt collection process. We are going to cap the i nterest rates that are permissible to be applied on the debt, and otherwise create a much more responsible process for dealing with debt collection. Finally, Mr. Speaker, on municipal reform, we will adjust the legislation to provide for a 21 st century approach dealing with municipalities. We will ensure that there is a 21st century approach dealing with the City of Hamilton and the Town of St. George’s. We will modify the legislation to ensure that there is a work able solution for all, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? Mr. Pearman? Okay. We recognise Mr. Pearman. Honourable Member, Mr. Pearson, from constituency 22. You have the floor.
Mr. Scott PearmanThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in addition to being the Reply to the Throne Speech, today was the 50th anniversary of the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast. There were a number of those in the Chamber who w ere there this morning.
Mr. Scott PearmanWe heard a barnstormer of a speech from Bishop Lambe. And what he said was this, people want to see, people in Bermuda, Berm udians want to see, bipartisanship. And he said this, If there is som ething good in the Throne Speech, then why not say so? And so …
We heard a barnstormer of a speech from Bishop Lambe. And what he said was this, people want to see, people in Bermuda, Berm udians want to see, bipartisanship. And he said this, If there is som ething good in the Throne Speech, then why not say so? And so I shall. I shall make an effort of collaboration, and I shall point out certain things in the Throne Speech that we in the OBA think are extremely positive, that we support, and that we hope will be implemented into legislation to solve some of Bermuda’s problems. Also, on the dais this morning, was the Deputy Premier, who stood in for the Premier, and gave a speech, which at one point said this: People should not criticise. Mr. Speaker, I respectfully disagree. People should criticise; but they should offer constructive criticism. They should offer civilised debate. But to suggest that we, the Opposition, should not criticise is entirely wrong because we have a job to do. But we could do so wit h courtesy, and we could do so constructively, because we must speak the truth. And so to the three points of collaboration that I intend to address, three points of praise for the Throne Speech, I also intend to offer three points of criticism, construc-tive criticism. First, to the collaboration. As the Leader of the Opposition said earlier in his Reply to the Throne Speech, If you’ve got a good idea, use it. So, extending maternity leave. This is a good idea. I commend it, and the OBA commends the Gover nment for consi deration an extension of the current eight -week maternity leave to a longer period. The Throne Speech pr oposed a period of 13 weeks. However, this needs to be done right. It is all well and good to extend maternity leave, but we need to also consider the impact that this will impose upon small businesses, and particularly very small businesses. And so, again, in the spirit of collaboration, in the spirit of constructive criticism, I ask the PLP Gov-ernment to think about these things. Consider whether or not extended maternity leave should be limited to businesses of a certain size. If you happen to employ three people, and two are women, and they go off pregnant, how long will that business survive? If, on the other hand, you are a bank or a law firm or an ac-counting firm, and you have pregnancies, that is part of the usual course of life, the usual course of bus iness, and it should be supported. So there is a difference between a large business and a very small one, and I invite this Government to consider that point. Equally, or alternatively, consider a certain threshold of turnover. In some of the taxation pr oposals that have been floated out by this Government in the Throne Speech, we see that certain things may just apply to businesses w ith a turnover of $250,000. That too is sensible. Let’s consider something where there is a threshold of turnover. All of us believe that maternity leave is an essential thing that governments and societies must provide for. We must recognise that there is a cost when women in the workplace, equal women in the workplace, go off on maternity leave. 58 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly We must also recognise the clear scientific data that children are better raised when their mothers have the opportunity to spend time with them more during thos e developmental stages, those early weeks and months of childhood. So, yes, we support the expansion of maternity leave. It is a good thing and we hope to collaborate, but please, be sensible. Consider what this already delicate economy can sustain. Con-sider the possibility that we will look to the size of the business or the size of the threshold. Collaboration number two. In the Throne Speech we heard about a new arbitration centre to be honouring Ottiwell Simmons. Now, Mr. Speaker, this is in fact an i dea that has been around for a while, but nonetheless, we are pleased to see the PLP taking it on. More importantly, unlike so many who have suggested this idea in the past, we very much hope that the PLP will deliver. Yet again, in the spirit of collaboration, this is an idea that could be improved. Why, Mr. Speaker, just an arbitration centre? Why not a general centre for all dispute resolutions? The PLP Throne Speech talked about medi ation for families as an alternative solution to the di-vorce rates and the child custody battles. Well, why not the arbitration and mediation centre? Why not al-low mediation for families to be conducted there? Or commercial mediations, for that matter? Why not i nvite the Bar Counsel to move their offices there, per-haps to pay some rent to help fund it? And as the Leader of the Opposition foreshadowed in his speech, why not consider that there are over 30 boards, tribunals, commissions that all do yeoman service in Ber-muda, but are all in disparate places with different admini strative support and nowhere to be found if you are the user, if you are the common man or woman who needs to appeal this or appeal that. Put them all under one house. Move them all under one central tribunal system. Make life easier for Bermudians, and make the central administrative support easier for all of these boards, tribunals and commissions. Then the building will get use if the arbi-trations do not materialise. You have a one- stop shop. So, again, collaboration and constructive criticism. Thirdl y, single- use plastics. We commend the Government for its discussion to tackle the issue of single- use plastics. Most of the time when people are dealing with single- use plastics, we are talking about plastic straws. So let’s just take that example. The Throne Speech suggests that it is intending to be taxed and eventually eliminated. Well, again, here is a suggestion to improve that idea. Why not just bypass the tax altogether and eliminate plastic straws? N obody in Bermuda needs them. Turtles do not like them. The world does not need them. They can be made out of recyclable materials. I am not a person who has a political belief that we should be banning things left, right and centre. But I hope that most of us can agree that Bermuda should take a bold st ep and just ban plastic straws. So why not? These are three points of collaboration and constructiv e criticism. Now, Mr. Speaker, let me offer respectfully, and let me offer with civility, three points on which I think that the PLP would do well to steer away from. Firstly, and this is a very serious issue, the Throne Speech is discussing revamping our health care sy stem, a fundamental overhaul of our health care sy stem. This is a very bad idea. Single- payer systems have been tried by other jurisdictions and have failed. They have bankrupted other jurisdictions. If people want single- payer health care systems, if they want socialist health care systems, move there. Bermuda’s problem is not that we are not a single- payer system; Bermuda’s problem is that health care is too expensive. Why is it too expensive? Because the insurance companies are generously paying the service provi ders. If you go abroad for a medical procedure—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYield a minute, Member. We have a point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongMr. Speaker, the Member characterised single- payer systems, and I assume variations of those systems in other countries, as having failed and bankrupted those respective c ountries. Certainly, you have variations of single- payer systems in Europe. And I do not believe that it can be demon-strated that those systems …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHe will develop his point. Continue, please.
Mr. Scott PearmanI am grateful for the interjection. I stand by my point. Socialist systems do not work. Socialist ideology has failed. A socialist health care system is, as I said, a very bad idea. [ Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott PearmanMove to Canada. Bermudians do not want the clunking fist of the state telling them how they can proceed with their health care.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongPoint of order, Mr. Speaker. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 59 Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Is it . . . let’s try and just let him develop his point. But I will take this, and then we are going to let him move on out. Okay? …
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongThe Member is misleading the House, Mr. Speaker. The interpolation was that Canada . . . we should move there. Is Canada a socialist country?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere was not a real point of order in that. But let’s hold it. I believe you want to speak later. You can correct any viewpoi nt that you want to bring when you are on your feet. Just let it flow.
Mr. Scott PearmanMr. Speaker, as I said, Canada has a socialist health care system. I stand by that. I will be corrected, no doubt, later. Bermudians do not want the clunking fist of the state telling them how to manage their health care. Bermudians want choice. Bermudians want options. Yes, we need …
Mr. Speaker, as I said, Canada has a socialist health care system. I stand by that. I will be corrected, no doubt, later. Bermudians do not want the clunking fist of the state telling them how to manage their health care. Bermudians want choice. Bermudians want options. Yes, we need to reduce the cost of health care. But a massive, systemic gamble, a complete overhaul, is a very bad idea. Mr. Speaker, that is the first of three negative observations on the Throne Speech, and let me move to the second. The Bermuda Tourism Authority was probably . . . and I say “probably” because I sit next to many colleagues in the OBA, but in my personal opinion [was] the single best thing the OBA actually did. They took the Tourism Authority out from under the politic isation of Government and they put it in the hands of professionals. And well done them for doing so! This was a good idea. It let people who knew what they were doi ng manage Bermuda’s tourism. It took away the political grubby fingers from any side of this aisle.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberSpeak for yourself, Scott. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott PearmanMr. Speaker, the problem with politicians getting involved in independent bodies, is that they tend to mess things up. Exhibit A: Gaming. If it is not stone dead, it seems to be, at very best, on life support. Why? B ecause of Government interference. Because a Mini ster who decided …
Mr. Speaker, the problem with politicians getting involved in independent bodies, is that they tend to mess things up. Exhibit A: Gaming. If it is not stone dead, it seems to be, at very best, on life support. Why? B ecause of Government interference. Because a Mini ster who decided that he knew best changed the control levers over this independent authority and scared off the banks. Please, Government, the PLP Gover nment, do not make the same mistake with the Berm uda Tourism Authority. Recognise what works and support what works. Do not be political. You have got a good thing, keep it. Third, and finally, there was very little, unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, said in the Throne Speech about our children. There was, I accept, a programme to send students abroad to London and Washington, and that was a noble idea. But there was very little fundamentally said about the way in which Gover nment supports our children. And let me make a third and final criticism. Something needs to be done by this Government, and done swiftly, regarding the Department of Child and Family Services. It is a complete and utter mess. I make no criticism of the people who work there, the social workers who do a fine job. I am not criticising individuals. But the way this is wor king, systemically , it is failing. We have removed the Minister. We have r eshuffled him out. We have moved to a different department, which is already struggling. It is now under the Attorney General, a Ministry that is already struggling to keep up in the court systems. We have a di spute going on about litigation guardians and how they are going to be paid; and I will say no more about that. We have some very serious allegations about children under the care of the department, which are now be-ing investigated. We thank you for investigating them. But it is a mess. The PS, I understand is retired. The director is currently suspended. The Minister is now gone, and the department has been moved. Now, no doubt, we can wait to hear from the Attorney General about all of that, but when we are deal ing with our children, the most vulnerable of our children, that is something that needs Government’s urgent attention. So, again, r espectfully, I suggest that this be something focused upon more than it was focused upon today in the Throne Speech. Mr. S peaker, in closing, I have discussed collaboration and I have discussed constructive criticism. One of the MPs from the other side, Mr. Lawrence Scott, spoke earlier today and he said this, Help is on the way. We have a vision. It is a bit late for that. T he PLP Government has been the Government for 15 of the past 20 years. Bermuda’s problems are your problems to solve. We believe in collaboration. We will help where we can, but the PLP Government must do better. We need jobs. We need to grow the economy. We need to fix education. And that is the PLP’s job to do. Bermuda’s future depends on it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member . . . I recognise the Honourable Minister of Health. Minist er Wilson, you have the floor. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for allowing me to contribute to the Throne Speech Reply and the debate. …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member . . . I recognise the Honourable Minister of Health. Minist er Wilson, you have the floor.
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for allowing me to contribute to the Throne Speech Reply and the debate. You know, when you go to a buffet, and people who know me well know that I definitely enjoy a 60 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly good meal. There is a wonderful spread of all kinds of delectable choices of food and desserts, and just yummy, yummy things. And you have a very wide range of things to choose from. And you know, I would like to use that food analogy as it relates speci fically to the Throne Speech. By that I mean . . . because as you look at the Throne Speech of the PLP, this recent Throne Speech, there are a number of things to choose from to debate today. There are a number of initiatives, Mr. Speaker, that are in this Throne Speech designed specifically to enhance the quality of life for Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda. And because I have limited time, I have to find myself trying to choose, and choose carefully. Unlike when you are at a restaurant, there is no maître d' that is going to come up to you and say, Right. Ring the bell at 30 minutes and say, Drop your forks, move away from the table, your time is up. So I do not want you to do that to me. However, I will like to speak —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, you have 30 minutes to talk freely. I will do the bell after your 30 minutes is up. Go right ahead. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. However, seriously, what I would like to do, and I am actually in a very enviable position because, notwithstanding …
Well, you have 30 minutes to talk freely. I will do the bell after your 30 minutes is up. Go right ahead.
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. However, seriously, what I would like to do, and I am actually in a very enviable position because, notwithstanding the many, many i nitiatives that are contained in this Throne Speech, I am going to leave that to my colleagues to discuss them a little bit further. However, the two initiatives that I certainly would like to address and dig a little deeper in, actually I have the enviabl e position of being the Minister that will be able to steer those through.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMm-hmm. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: One relates specifically to health care reform, which we have already heard spoken about this evening. As well as the other one as it relates to the extension of maternity leave. So let me start with the first one, the health care financing reforms. Mr. …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. Kim N. Wilson: One relates specifically to health care reform, which we have already heard spoken about this evening. As well as the other one as it relates to the extension of maternity leave. So let me start with the first one, the health care financing reforms. Mr. Speaker, we know that we are in a crisis as it relates to health care costs. They are spiralling out of control. We have high instances of chronic non- communicable diseases, largely as a r esult of things like diet and sedentary lifestyles. All things that can actually be changed if persons take better care and take responsibility for their lives. However, notwithstanding that important fact , we are spending far too much on health care costs, and we have to do something. We have to bring them under control. There should not be situations where persons are going on GoFundMe pages to try to pay for medical treatment for taking their children ov erseas who have special heart conditions. There should not be persons or situations where persons have a chronic disease and are left with loans and owing money to family members just so that they can help to pay for the medical treatment that they require. Mr. Speaker, in 2012, the PLP Government under the then Minister of Health, the Honourable Zane De Silva, established a Finance and Rei mbursement Task Group under the National Health Plan. And they, together, this task group, which was made up of biparti san representation from a wide sector of our community —insurance, IB, health providers, et cetera, a wide sector, a bipartisan committee—met for hundreds of hours, collectively, to come up with a way to look at how we can better pay for health care. And this particular group of individuals (again, the F inance and Reimbursement Task Group) worked t ogether with actuaries and came up with proposals for how we could reform our health [care] financing. They produced a report, and it is entitled, Mr. Speaker, the Health Financing Structure in support of Bermuda’s National Health Plan. And this was pr oduced in December of 2012. And under this report, Mr. Speaker, they presented some proposals, and they developed these proposals that were designed specifically to protect policyholders from large sways, to stabilise the health cost, and to move us toward ensuring everyone can have decent health coverage without breaking the bank. Mr. Speaker, these pr oposals, as I said, were developed under wide consultation and they came up with two options. And these two options that were presented also included a benefits package at the time, in which our health financing can be improved and made more efficient. And it also assessed the number of other things in criteria, includi ng the capacity to contain health care costs, as well as the tentative costs for a draft benefit package, Mr. Speaker. And this benefit package that they spoke about back then, which is still on the table, Mr. Speaker, included a number of things. It included local hospitalisation, primary care, prescription drugs, dental care, long- term care, and overseas care. And this package would be a solid package that would help to protect anyone from a s erious health event and give them the preventative, Mr. Speaker , as well as the primary care that they need in order to maintain health. So at that time, back in 2012, some six years ago, Mr. Speaker, almost six years ago, that package benefit was costed out by this committee and the actuaries at $450, which clearly, obviously, would have [to be] changed because it is some six years old, and we have seen, unfortunately, the increase in utilisation of health care services in Bermuda. So, clearly, that package would be higher at this point; however, the analysis that was completed (which I will speak about in a few moments) would show that we would be able to develop a better benefit package that everyone could afford. Now, you would ask, How do we pay for that? Well, that is where the health financing committee came up with these two particular options. What they Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 61
Bermuda House of Assembly looked at, Mr. Speaker, if I could just try to draw an analogy. If you can imagine that you have small pools. So, for example, Mr. Smith who works at this partic ular grocery store, he and his eight employees are in one particular pool of health insurance; whereas, company ABC Inc. has 2,000 employees and they have a different pool. So if in Mr. Smith’s grocery store one of those persons, God forbid, has a catastrophic illness and is hospitalised in intensive care, et cetera, and has to receive very, very expensive major medical services, those other seven people in that pool are going to be affected because they are all sharing the risk. So if one person has a catastrophic event, then the other seven people’s insurance premiums are also going to be adversely affected because of the small pool. Whereas, when you have ABC Inc., with their several thousand employees, if one of their employ-ees has a very similar episode, because there are more people to share the ri sk then the likelihood of them having adverse increases to their premiums is remote, because of the sharing of the risk. So just like the major insurance companies here when they rei nsure products and so forth, they are sharing risk. What this particular c ommittee has come up with are two options. And these options all relate to sharing risk. So if you can envision, Mr. Speaker, a pool of 48,000 Bermudians insured under one pool, then the risk is spread out. Unlike where Mr. Smith and his eight employees feel the burden of one cat astrophic illness, versus ABC Inc. with their thousands of employees, when you have 48,000, collectively, which represents the Bermuda insured population, all pooled together with respect to their risk, then events such as those are shared amongst 48[,000]. So there is a bigger pool, so to speak, Mr. Speaker, to spread the risk. So, Mr. Speaker, large community pools, as I said, spread the risk and it minimises the potential impact on a few people (like Mr. Smith’s grocery store), and it averages out the premiums across the whole board. So, Mr. Speaker, given the bipartisan . . . and I have to repeat that, there was bipartisan membership of this task group back in 2012 that spent hundreds of hours in deliberations, researching other jurisdictions, talking to actuaries, having present ations, and the like, from all of these representative groups, and they collectively came up with these options. And I would invite anybody to look at it because it is on the Government website or Bermuda’s Health Council’s website. But that report is made public and it talks about the two options that were being consi dered. So let’s fast forward, Mr. Speaker, to October and November of this year. We established a Health Financing Reform Stakeholder Consultation Group. We have asked them to review the 2012 report. And let me just tell you the composition of that group. Again, it is a stakeholder group. We wanted to pull together stakeholders from various industries within Bermuda to look at the report, look at the options, opine on it, come back and say how they feel those options would best represent the views of the stak eholder group that they represent. We wanted them to look at the options. So those persons who were on that group, Mr. Speaker, [were]: Berm uda First; Bermuda Hospitals Board [BHB]; Chamber of Commerce (representing the employees); Bermuda Diabetics A ssociation (a health charity); we had health insurers at the table; health professionals; IB; mental health pr ofessionals; nursing; physicians; s enior represent atives; and the union. So we too, moving forward, pulled together this [Health Financing Reform] Stakeholder Consult ation Group and they were tasked, Mr. Speaker, with looking at the options presented back in 2012 and how they may impact the people of Bermuda, and, more specifically, their representatives from their var ious stakeholder groups. And the sole purpose, Mr. Speaker, of this group was to provide feedback on the recommendations of the committee that was appointed (which I spoke about) under the Honourable Mini ster De Silva. And their mandate was to review the Health Financing option report and to provide the views of their stakeholder group on those two options. They also had the benefit of health economists to pr ovide further overv iews and further information if they so required it. I am glad to say that the two- month process of their meetings has concluded. I am expecting to r eceive a report from them, probably within the next couple of days. And we also are expecting that report. And it was communicated to them that their work was not designed to come up with a joint position, because we recognise that this wide stakeholder group would represent various interests. So, therefore, we were not expecting them to come up with a joint position, but we just wanted them to come up with the differences and risk viewpoints so that we can consider all of the options. Now, some people might say, Look, you are speaking about health financing reform. Why not f ocus on subsidy reform? Why not focus on the benefit packages? Why not instead focus on underinsured or uninsured persons? Well, Mr. Speaker, all of those factors are very, very important, but we cannot do anything about them unless we can figure out how we are going to pay. So we have to fir st look at the better way of providing payment for the health services that we are offering to our community. And those factors, though, are as equally as important, but you cannot talk about subsidy reform or benefit reform without first going back and saying, How are we going to pay for the said benefit, or the subsidies? So, Mr. Speaker, with respect to that, I think that even though there has been a lot that has been said today with respect to whether or not it is a socialist policy and the like, with respect to health reform, 62 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly again, we are going back to a 2012 report that was a bipartisan group of individuals that represented a cross section of Bermuda industry and the like. They came up with two options. And the current group that I just spoke about, the Stakeholders Group, are reviewing those options, going back to their stakeholders’ constituent base, and asking them what their thoughts are with respect to these two options. And we will be, I can assure you, bringing more information to this Honourable House in due course as it relates to the way forward with respect to health care financing. And that falls squarely, Mr. Speaker, with respect to page 8, under the Throne Speech, where we indicated that we would ensure that we look at how we will best finance health care. That is what we were elected to do, and that is what we will be performing. Mr. Speaker, the last thing that I want to speak about, which I am lucky to have within the remit of health, is the issue concerning, again, at page 8 of the Throne Speech, the consideration of an extension of paid maternity leave from the current eight weeks to 13 weeks. And I thank my Honourable and Learned colleague from constituency 22 for his comments as it relates to maternity leave, and he did make some suggestions insofar as looking at the effect it may have small businesses and the like. But if you look at the Throne Speech, Mr. Speaker, we did say that we would commence consultation. So during that consultation process, we would expect persons to provi de input as to what the effects may or may not be on small -, medium -, or large- size business. So that is why consultation will take place. But the Throne Speech is indicating the consultation period to commence with respect to maternity leave because that was something that was in the PLP platform when we were elected. Now, Mr. Speaker, let me just tell you really quickly, and I am sure that you may be aware of this but I think it warrants repetition. We are all familiar with the benefits of breastfeeding, Mr. Speaker. And we know that mothers that breastfeed their children, obviously there are . . . it prevents childhood infections. Also, Mr. Speaker, there is a lot of evidence that supports that breastfed children are less likely to be obese. And we all know about the situation here in Bermuda with respect to our obesity levels, as well as in children. We also note that breastfed children are oftentimes . . . their immune systems are further developed. In fact, Mr. Speaker, the infant mortality rate . . . I am sorry. In fact, Mr. Speaker, with respect to breas tfeeding, the studies also show that it can also help women with respect to weight loss and the like. So we know that there are a lot of benefits in breastfeeding. And if a mother was allowed to have extended maternity leave, then no doubt that may be a factor that she considers as to whether or not to continue breastfeeding. Mr. Speaker, also, there are proven scientific data that confirms that breastfeeding reduces certain cancers in women. Also, Mr . Speaker, maternity leave benefits and the extension thereof, allow mothers to stay home and bond for a longer period of time with their children, with their infants, which is obviously a very critical period in their lives. It also will help to ease some of the childcare shortages and expenses if the mother is allowed to stay home for a longer period of time with her child. And it is obviously, as studies show, much safer for the mother to be home with her child and bonding with that infant, as opposed to putting that child in the care of another individual at such a young age. Also, Mr. Speaker, there are studies that show that the infant mortality rate of children whose mothers have an extended maternity leave, has been decreased in some studied by 10 per cent. Mr. Speaker, we also know that infants with their mothers . . . mot hers that have extended maternity leave . . . and I found this study very interesting, and it drives home to Bermuda very clearly. Those children are more likely to have well -baby visits and receive vaccinations. And, unfortunately, we are at a situation now in Bermuda where we are seeing that there is a drive by some to not vaccinate their children, and measles is coming back. So in certain studies they found that mothers who stay ed home longer with their children during their maternity leave were more likely to get their chi ldren vaccinated. And, again unfortunately, we are seeing such things as polio and measles resurfacing. Also, Mr. Speaker, mental health is increased in women. The woman’s mental health awareness and benefits are increased by staying home longer with their child. Mr. Speaker, there are studies that show that the women suffer from less bouts of depression if they are able to bond and remain at home with an extended period of maternity leave with their children. So, Mr. Speaker, the benefits for extending maternity leave I think are well documented, and I am sure nobody would disagree with those. The fact that I feel privileged and honoured that I have the oppor tunity to be able to start that consultation process, I am quite excited about. I am also privileged and honoured to be able to lead with respect to the necessary health care financing reform that must take place, Mr. Speaker, so that everyone has an oppor tunity to have affordable health coverage and everyone has an opportunity to be able to not . . . no one will have to be forced to start GoFundMe pages or get loans or be bankrupt simply because a catastrophic illness has occurred to themselves or their family. We cannot continue to live like that, Mr. Speaker. Our health care costs have gotten out of control. We have to address it. We have a report that was started way back in 2012 that has provided some very detailed options to explore. We are exploring those Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 63
Bermuda House of Assembly options and I will be returning to this House to discuss those further. So in that regard, Mr. Speaker, thank you for the time. Thank you for allowing me to clean my plate during my 30 minutes. I thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? You almost got the gavel that time. I was a little slow. I recognise the Honourable Member Commi ssiong. Honourable Member Commissiong, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongMr. Speaker, thank you for acknowledging me here. Mr. Speaker, after hearing the Opposition Leader go through a fairly lengthy list of accomplis hments of the OBA Government, I am going to echo what was said by my colleague from constituency 24, and pose the following question: If the claims …
Mr. Speaker, thank you for acknowledging me here. Mr. Speaker, after hearing the Opposition Leader go through a fairly lengthy list of accomplis hments of the OBA Government, I am going to echo what was said by my colleague from constituency 24, and pose the following question: If the claims of the great benefits bestowed by an OBA Government to the people of Bermuda are credible, then how can you explain the fact that the OBA Government went down to one of the greatest electoral defeats in Bermuda’s political history? How do you explain that, Mr. Speaker? If talk of Two Bermudas was just an election ploy, then how do you explain that thousands of Bermudians rejected the OBA, reduced them from a slim majority down to practically a rump party consisting of 11 Members? Is it sti ll 11 or has it gone down even further? [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongOnly 11. And, in fact, the haemorrhaging did not stop with the last election because they subsequently lost a bye- election. Mr. Speaker, for too many Bermudians, a m ajority obviously, the misplaced and short -sighted austerity regime that was imposed upon Bermudians played a huge role in their rejection …
Only 11. And, in fact, the haemorrhaging did not stop with the last election because they subsequently lost a bye- election. Mr. Speaker, for too many Bermudians, a m ajority obviously, the misplaced and short -sighted austerity regime that was imposed upon Bermudians played a huge role in their rejection of this party. They ran as fast as they could when they got the right opportunity to reject this party, the then O BA Gover nment, at the polls. And for good reason, Mr. Speaker. It is clear by a large part of their Throne Speech [R eply] that they still do not get it. In fact, Mr. Speaker, they contributed mightily to that defeat and clearly are at a position now where they do not really want to answer the question realistically as to what caused that defeat. Mr. Speaker, the OBA Government is out of touch. They were out of touch, I should say. And the OBA Opposition is doing just as bad. I had to sit here just a while ago, you had one of the newer Members of the OBA, Mr. Scott Pearman (that was one byeelection they did win), who sought to give a sort of standard, very rigid ideological response to the plans that have been set in place by the Bermuda Gover nment to reduce the cost of health care. And you may have heard this description of the plan to implement a variation of a single- payer system as reeking of “s ocialism.” I am surprised that we did not hear the word “communism” come out of his mouth, circa 1985, or something to that degree. It was astonishing. Clearly, he does not have any problem with a current status quo that sees health care costs based on a fee- for-service system, which is analogous to what they have in the US, continue to grow precipitously and caus e even more numbers of Bermudians not to be able to afford health care. Is he not aware that only in the last census report, reflective of that intercensal period between 2010 and 2016, that over 4,000 Bermudians are now without health insurance? If I am n ot mistaken, some of those Bermudians were young children. In only five years that number had doubled. In 2010, it was at around just over 2,200 to 2,300, and now it is over 4,000. If we do not arrest it, within the next four or five years we will be looki ng at a figure of 6,000 or 7,000 Bermudians, mostly low - income Bermudians, without health insurance. This is the fruit of what a fee- for-serv ice sy stem has produced in America and in Bermuda. That is why, therefore, we have the same calls in the US now for change. I am still a little shocked myself, Mr. Speaker, to have realised that the issue that animated so many American voters to vote for the Democrats . . . again, I want to say this again. I am still surprised. It was the issue of health care. That was the issue, the number one issue, and the growing insecurity that Americans are feeling about the very nature of unbr idled health care costs in the US. And the threat to losing their protection for pre- existing conditions, for example. Now, those countries . . . I just want to say this. We had a little back and forth with Mr. Pearman. Those countries in Western Europe, developed countries, including Canada, have some form of a singlepayer system. Switzerland is in that box. You could put Holland in that box. Some of them are a little closer to market based, but they are all variations of the single- payer system. I know he talked about socialist countries, but then he sort of corrected himself and said he was talking about this socialist system of health car e. But these are all market -based economies, whether you are talking about Sweden, Norway, and the countries of Western Europe and Canada. It was very ideological to hear Mr. Pearman make these allegations, these assertions, that are essentially saying that if you adopt this type of system you are adopting a socialist system, that, essentially, you are on the road to ruin. This type of stuff you hear from right -wing ideologues, the type who support Donald Trump in the US.
[Inaudible interjections] 64 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Mr. Rolfe Commissiong: Extraordinary! The reason why we must bring down health care costs, and we have to bite the bullet now, the reason why we must bring down the overall cost of living, which means in addition to bringing down the cost of health care, in addition to dealing with the cost of energy, in addition to that, ensure that our people are not going to be working for poverty level wages, is because Bermuda cannot be a place anymore which treats the least of us in a way we have been doing over the last few decades. We must arrest the rampant growth of income inequality in this country. The Tax Reform Commi ssion and its recommendations are part of that. Still, though, we hear about austerity over on the other side, in that Throne Speech Reply —cut this and cut that! The reality is that one of the driving factors in moving toward establishing the Tax Reform Commi ssion, besides just the basic issue of fairness, is the fact that most experts who have studied our predic ament over the last seven, eight or ten y ears, although it goes back decades before that, such as the IMF - derived group [International Monetary Fund] . . . that was the CARTAC [ Caribbean Regional Technical A ssistance Cent re] group, I believe. I think that was also echoed by the Fiscal Responsibility Panel. They both say that Bermuda’s tax base is too narrow. It is too small at 17 per cent of GDP. That is what they said. We now have gotten it up to, at least the projection here by way of the Tax Reform Commission, up to 20 per cent. Those are the recommendations. Frankly, I myself would love to see it get up more toward 22 per cent or 23 per cent —myself. But I am prepared to accept this. I say this here: we need to continue to inject more progressivity into our tax system. Those who [get paid] the m ost, like lawyers from CD&P [Conyers Dill & Pearman], have to pay more into the public kitty. I am just so outraged when I hear Bermudians, whether it is letters to the editor or on social media, talk about, Oh, the taxes they pay. Relatively speaking, what taxes do they pay, Mr. Speaker? Someone who is bringing in $400,000 or $500,000 in income alone, what taxes do they pay? How dare they talk about this Government and all the taxes they pay when in reality they pay relatively nothing! The dirty little secret of Bermuda has been as follows: For decades most of the tax burden has fallen on low -income people, those at the bottom of the i ncome distribution bands in Bermuda. And let’s be honest here, brutally honest, most of those people are black Bermudians. They are the ones who have borne that tax burden for years in Bermuda, while those who own the businesses, when those who are earning these high incomes, pay relatively nothing. It is ob-scene, Mr. Speaker. As one who has always been a proponent of social j ustice and racial justice, because in Bermuda those two roads meet everywhere you l ook, by every metric, even when that statistic I gave you just now about the number of people who do not have health insurance, the stats indicated that again the vast majority look like you and [me]. So if we are talking about a new social contract, then we need to do that. We have to be trans-formative! They are arguing that to just get back to the status quo is sufficient enough for them. We know who have been getting the short end of the stack with that status quo! No! That is not what we are about. We need to use this opportunity to be transformational and no longer transactional. I heard the Premier say that, and he is so right. It is time now. That era which saw everything shift like a pendulum in favour of capital, starting from the 1980s under Reagan and Thatcher, right up until the present time until the big crash of 2008 or 2009, has come to and end. It is clear what you are seeing in most Wes tern societies now is that we have been in a transition period since 2008, since that Great Recession. What is going to come out the other side is still to be determined, but in many respects, it can look very ugly. Look at Europe! The rise of nationalism, xenophobia, and racism. Look at the US! The period that led into that Reagan/Thatcher in the post -1980s, that I said just ended with the Great Recession, it also gave rise to these offshore international business sectors on steroids —Bermuda being one of them. Again, we got to have honest conversations here. We have too much dependence on finance in this country. It is too high of a percentage of our overall economy. Studies indicate that when we become so dependent on finance for growth, this is what happens. Let me use a metaphor. Mr. Speaker. It creates a wonderful oasis for those who work in its precincts. Everything there is like manna from heaven in that oasis. But eventually all around it becomes a desert. And that is what we have seen in Bermuda over the last few years. How do you tackle income inequality? How do you reverse those multi -decade trends? Like I said, it begins in Bermuda, and particularly in the AngloSaxon world of the USA and the UK, beginning in the late 1980s. It requires . . . first of all, what is income inequality? Simply put, it is a maldistribution of income where you have national income going to those at the top 10, 5, 1 per cent, hollowing out your middle class and your middle- income groups. How do you reverse that? You must use r edistributive poli cies—and I make no apologies about that—reducing the cost of living, tax reform, [and] a living wage. How do we deal with the intersection be-tween income inequality and racial disparity? Things like the procurement policy, the affirmative action pr ocurement policy we put in place. The proposal for pay equity. So we have non race- specific remedies. Again, tax reform, reducing the cost of living, and the living wage. And then you have more race- specific rem edies that also must be a part of it, such as what we did Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 65
Bermuda House of Assembly with our procurement, to ensure that black Bermudian business owners, along with women and those on disabilities, are going to have a preference to get a leg up in this economy. Pay equity to ensure that black Bermudians, particularly in the corporat e sectors of Bermuda are going to be paid their just due. And there is so much more we need to do. And let me tell you this . . . and forgive me for not citing the various studies. What they are saying now is that if you want to create a healthier econom y, reduce the extreme levels of income inequality. That is like when the people cried about the imposition of a living wage, I said, Well what about the . . . first of all, have we not noticed, Mr. Speaker, all of the procrast inators and prognosticators ar ound the issue of living wage? Not just Bermuda; it has been going on for years. Every time there is a substantive increase to the minimum wage or introduction of the minimum and now increasing living wage, they all come out of the woodwork . . . right -wing ideologues, conservative ideologues, the likes of which we just heard a few minutes ago. The sky is going to fall . They cannot show you one study to confirm that anywhere. But I tell you what. We know from research and from hard evidence that you place more money, more purchasing power, in the hands of low -income people and lower middle- income people who work hard, they take that money and they spend more of it in the real -world economy. So, if you have a tepid economy around consumer spending, which Ber muda depends upon, the best thing we could do for the business owners is to ensure that those people have more to spend in this economy by giving them a decent living wage. Statutory wages do so. Mr. Speaker, I am proud to be a member of the Progressive Labour Party. And I will be honest with you again. Some of these proposals that we are pushing forward now, let us be honest, Mr. Speaker . And you would know this more than many of us in this room. Some of this should have been done over 10 or 15 years ago. It should have. So, in many cases in Bermuda, we can be a little bit behind the time, but we get there. And we are getting there now. And we are not ignoring the fact that we have to continue to grow our economy. But this, as I said, is just as much an economic initiative—reducing high levels of income inequality and dealing with pre- existing racial dispar ities—as any other economic initiative that we could come across right now. This is going to be good for Bermuda. It is going to create a more sustainable Bermuda, a more inclusive Bermuda. And maybe, just maybe, the 1,500 or 2,000 Bermudians who have left here as economic migrants for the most part, and gone to places like dreary England, will have an incentive to come back home and participate fully in this Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, this is why persons like you and me and so many others here joined the PLP. It is just a start. Like, we can do so much more, but it is con-sistent with our values —what we believe in. It is reasserting itself and we are going to be judged. [We will see] 2019 as a pivotal year for the Progressive Labour Party Government. It will be a pivotal year for Berm uda—not just in terms of what we are doing internally, but also in terms of that geopolitical context. And there will be many challenges that will be coming from wit hout, along with the run- of-the-mill challenges that we are charged to deal with internally. Look at what is happening over in Europe again. I talked about the racism, the xenophobia and right-wing nationalism. But look at the other day in terms of Brexit. We have a date due with the UK Government to discuss beneficial ownership. We have a date due to discuss with the European Union about the fact that some companies who are doing quite well globally do not have a physi cal presence in Bermuda, although they are based in Bermuda. Those issues are outstanding. Depending on how we resolve or settle those issues will also have an impact upon Berm uda’s geopolitical, geostrategic position in the world. So, let us not be all i nsular here. The world is changing. We are entering a new era, and we must prepare for it. And I contend that this PLP Gover nment is best poised to deliver at home and deliver globally. Thank you, Mr. Speaker . [Desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Ho nourable Member . Is there any other Honourable Member . . . I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member , you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I am going to address a couple of gener …
Thank you, Ho nourable Member . Is there any other Honourable Member . . . I recognise the Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member , you have the floor.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I am going to address a couple of gener al things before I go into the area of health care because that is obviously my Shadow Ministry and it is important to me that I speak to that particular topic. But one of the things that I noticed from the Throne Speech and some of the comments that have come through on things that the Government has recommended that they wish to do is basically to look at . . . I want to speak to the mortgage issue. And one thing that we have to recognise is that on mortgages, banks . . . it might be wonderful to say Bank A has a better interest rate offering to the population than Bank B. But banks locally have geared towards an income measure rather than an asset measure. And what do I mean by that? You may have a mortgage on one property and you may say that you want to be able to go from Bank A to Bank B because they are offering a better rate on mortgages. But you may find that Bank B is not willing to offer you a mortgage, notwithstanding 66 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly the value of that property, because they are less i nclined to be focused on your asset base than they are inclined to be focused on your income base. They do not want . . . banks do not want to be encumbered with the responsibility of claiming your property if you cannot meet your mortgage payments, and then have the responsibility of trying to sell it, sometimes at a haircut. We saw that situation with Sandys 360 where the funding by a particular bank . . . they wanted to then ask the Government to settle the outstanding amount that this particular entity owed. And, Mr. Speaker, it is like the bank made a bad decision in offering financing to an environment, to a situation, to a company that was not solvent enough to meet the demands. And then they want to turn around and say, Government, oh, I am sorry, you have to pay. And that cannot be right. So, if the bank made a bad choice in doing the funding, then the bank has to bear some responsibility for the costs that they chose to underwrite. Therefore, as opposed to the Government being left on the hook to pay the full amount that was outstanding, the bank had to acknowledge that they had to take a haircut. And that is the right thing to do because the Government should not be bolstering poor banking decisions. But it is important to understand that the banks have moved more towards an income base as opposed to an asset base. You might find that you have got three or four houses, Mr. Speaker, with a couple of million dollars’ worth of value to those houses and you want maybe two or three hundred thousand dollars and the bank is going t o say, Where do you work? What revenue do you have? What income do you have? and Can we sustain your loan by giving you a loan? because they do not have to. So, while looking for [lower] interest rates would benefit Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda, and we certainly applaud that, it is certainly not a given that when person—when anyone, Mr. or Mrs. Bermuda—goes to the bank to negotiate a replacement mortgage, that it is a given that they will get it. It is not; it does not work quite that way. The other thing that I w anted to speak to was the issue of rental properties, where the Government has committed to bringing in new legislation in this coming session to say that they will look at concessions that fit the model of hotels, as it were, for concessions for owners, f or homeowners, to be able to build and refurnish and refurbish their properties and have the necessary concessions. As my honourable colleague from [constituency] 22 indicated, there are times when we may not agree with a position or a direction in which the Government is going, but it would be foolhardy for us not to indicate the reasons why we feel a little uncomfor table with that. And the reason I feel uncomfortable with that, Mr. Speaker, is that the concessions for building and for hotel buildings and the like, are predicated upon not just the cost of importing things, but the overall business structure that a hotel has in terms of its requirement. They have staff to pay. They have massive electricity bills to pay. They have, you know, the repairs and maintenance and all those sorts of things which must, of necessity, be covered. And you also have to look at the revenue that they are going to get to be able to offset the cost of their business model. And, in that doing, Mr. Speaker, when a home such as , those of us . . . and I declare an interest because I do have an Airbnb apartment. I would not, in all good conscience, go to the Government and say I need to replace the bed that I have in my apartment, I need to buy a new bed, and I am going to import one and therefore I would like a concession on the import duty relating thereto, or whatever fixtures and fittings that I want to update. Because of the revenue that I have earned while this place has been rented, effectively I have been able to be put rev enue aside. And of that money that I put aside from what I have earned, I do not have to pay significant repairs and maintenance. I do not have to pay staffing. I do not have to pay all of the things that will be a drain on a financial position of a hotel. And I do not think, quite frankly, that I deserve it. I do not think that I would deserve to go to Government and say, I need you to give me a handout because I also have a rental bed. Now, that is my way of saying that Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda who will benefit from the revenues that they are getting from their vacation rental properties will be in a better position on a percentage basis to put back into their place for enhancing it than might be a hotel who would have far more significant streams of expenditure that they have to fulfil. So, I just want to ensure as the Government is looking at this particular option and possibility that we do not end up giving away too much of our income stream, our revenue stream, which we need to be able to provide other services. We cannot be all things as a Government. We cannot be all things to all people. And while I am not saying that there may not be some legitimate need at some point, some people may be taking that revenue to say that they are going to pay the mortgage that they have, and they might find themselves in relatively straight circumstances . But I think that this may be the exception rather than the rule. And I just think that we want to make sure that we do not cut ourselves short in terms of the budgetar y process, and that we end up giving away something that we wish we [still] had when all is said and done because we do not have the overheads. I also want to speak to the issue of cannabis—cannabis oil and cannabinoid products —
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Sorry?
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Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: No, no, no, no. I do not touch anything close to that stuff. Smells so nasty, I do not want to be anywhere near to it. You can smell it from a distance—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSpeak to the Chair, speak to the Chair. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe do not need to hear about your experiences with that. [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJust speak to the Chair. Hon. Patricia J. Go rdon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, you know, some people can say, Oh, you know, I have had this experience. I can say hand on heart that I have never had an experience with it. You smell it at a distance. But let …
Just speak to the Chair.
Hon. Patricia J. Go rdon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, you know, some people can say, Oh, you know, I have had this experience. I can say hand on heart that I have never had an experience with it. You smell it at a distance. But let me just say that the use of medical cannabinoid products and oils . . . to have it enshrined in new legislation is a positive thing. The growth is something different in terms of how do we control it. How do we control quality and costs and the like? But I will also say that we want to make sure that the use—the medical use—is the focal point. I can recall, Mr. Speaker, as the Health Mini ster, having had a request from a particular patient who was suffering and in pain—in excruciating pain. The only thing that his doctor had recommended in order for him to be able to alleviate some of that intensity of pain was for him to use the cannabinoid oil. Well, at that time I was the Health Minister, we had no mechanism by which to allow him to import this oil because cannabis and cannabinoid products were illegal . And what did we do, Mr. Speaker , to evaluate how we could provide comfort for a patient if that was his only means of relief and still abide by what the laws said that he could do? And as a result, I applied to the Chief Medical Officer and we went through the process of discussing with the police department and the department of prosecutions and the like . . . not to break the law, but to say that this gentleman, this patient, deserved comfort in his final days. Now, unfortunately, the gentleman passed on. But, Mr. Speaker, I would have felt really horrible if I were the one who so stringently applied that law wit hout going through whatever possibilities we had to make things better, if this gentleman had passed and I stood between him and some comfort t hat he would have had in his last days. I do not apologise for mak-ing that decision because I think it was the right thing to do. So, to have this as a formal structure, I believe is important. But as my honourable colleague Ms. Scott, the Deputy Leader, indicated, it is important that this regime be well regulated and that we do not have people going in and raiding gardens and stuff after dark, as people will do night farming if they are so inclined, and to make sure that the uses for which it is intended are satisfied. I am just going to go on to maternity leave, because I will soon lose my time. With maternity leave there is perhaps nothing more positive than the bonding between a mother and a child. Therefore, the extension of maternity leave is a posi tive move that the PLP has brought up in their Throne Speech, and how they intend to implement it. But I also want to say that it is so important to have effective consultation. I believe my honourable colleague from [constituency] 22, as well as the Minis ter, indicated that consultation is necessary. Because as Honourable Member from [constituency] 22 indicated, and the Minister picked up on the idea, there could be difficulties that could be experienced by smaller companies when they are forced to employ the law that could apply to a larger company who could sustain additional costs when a smaller company might not be able to do so. But I have one concern. Mr. Speaker, we live in a misogynistic society. And I would just hate . . . I would just hate for executives, HR people who are responsible for hiring to fulfil certain requirements in their company for employees to decide that they start to discriminate . . . not overtly, because you could never tell why they say, No I prefer Mr. Smith rather than Ms. Tucker . You know, you might find that the HR person is saying, I am not going to hire that lady because in my estimation she is of childbearing age. And they do not want to run the risk of saying that perhaps we might find ourselves in a situation of having to provide maternity leave for this young woman. So, I just say that while we consider the entire challenge, let us make sure that we are not throwing the baby out with the bathwater and that we are not going to overlook the misogynistic society in whic h we live. That is something that we do not really have control over. I also want to pick up on the Government’s commitment to . . . there was one other thing that I wanted to do in that particular . . . okay, let me just talk about the living wage, and a liveable wage, as has been committed here. We had a subcommittee under Workforce Development when I was the Mini ster responsible for Home Affairs, which was tasked with looking at a liveable, a living wage. And that subcommittee was actually of the labour relations department. That subcommittee was chaired by now Senator Jason Hayward. He and his committee had extensive consult ations and came up with ideas. And when we had the 68 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly motion put to the House of Assembly to consider that topic, I said we have som ething ongoing that was at that [time] being worked on. So, to me, it was duplic ative to have two streams looking at the same thing at the same time. However, be that as it may, the Honourable Member chose to continue to bring forward that initiative. And now we have seen that it is being developed to the point that it is ready to be brought to be considered for legislation—or at least for further discussion and consultation. We want to talk also about income inequality. And one of the things that we have seen over time, Mr. Speaker, is that the same job can be done by two competent people—one male, one female. The f emale will not get the amount of money that the male gets. Notwithstanding—
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Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: And, y ou know, there is a racial divide as well —black and white. But a female—and that is my focal point today —a female is not considered in the same vein as a male, even though the female may be far superior in being able to do that job. When a job is advertis ed, women just look at it and say They are asking for five basic criteria, I only have four, therefore I will not apply . A man? Just because of the way they think, they will say, Well, I have got two of the five. I can probably slide my way through number three, so I am going to make the application. Nine times out of 10, they get it. And they get the job. And then especially when you are dealing with not just black or white or male or female, when you are dealing with local and foreign, you will get a company that says that they are willing to pay signif icantly higher salaries to somebody because they are foreign. And they would not even dream of it, you know, to pay somebody significant housing allowances and the like. So, by default, even if the salary for the job is the same, the local has got to pay rent every month whereas the foreigner gets housing allowance. So, their total revenue, their total income goes in their pocket. And these are things that we have to look at. We want to start talking about being fair? Let us go to health care and one of the things that you can find, Mr. Speaker, with respect to health care is that there are companies who say once you have finished working with them then you are not an employee, therefore you cannot stay on their insurance plan. Now, we can mandate . . . some of the difficulties . . . I had somebody call me the other day to say that their insurance premium was $3,500 per month because, you know, [it was ] for the husband and the wife—two people paying $3,500 per month. And I li stened to that and I thought, You know what ? That sounds like a lot of money, $3,500. But when you look at it, it is $1,750 per person, per month— The Speaker: Still a lot.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mine is $1,677.27 per month— The Speaker: Still a lot.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: So, it does not take much to get to a $3,500 premium. But, Mr. Speaker, if a company for which, let us say, I would have worked for, has a group policy where my premium may have been $1,200, as opposed to $1,600 to come out and get a policy on my own . . . if they are mandated to provide insurance even if the ex -employee, the retired employee, has to pay for it, but if they are mandated to keep the employees within their pool, then that assists that e mployee, that retiree, from having to go through the extremes of finding a lot of money in order to be able to fund basic health care that they are entitled to have. So, I think that before we look at disrupting the entire system . . . and I understand how the Government wants to have it looked at. I listened to the Minister very carefully as she gave her comments. But recognising that we have within the private sector . . . profit is not a bad thing. It is not a bad word, for companies to operate and to expect that there is a return on their investment. Companies, especially insurance companies —I worked in the industry, so I will declare that interest —are required to put up significant capital. And in putting up that capital, they are not only r esponsi ble for putting up the capital for the business to run, they also have to have excessive reserves that are dictated by the rules and regulations of the Monetary Authority because you cannot have an insurance company that goes under having collected premium s and then find that they are unable to meet their obligations to pay losses. So, they do not just have to put aside a r eserve for the losses that they have, they also have to put aside a reserve for the losses that may have oc-curred and about which they yet . . . they do not know yet. What they call “IBNR” —incurred but not reported. So, these are things that a company has to look at. Somebody had to find that capital at the outset to start that business. So to then look at that company to say, you have st arted this business, you have committed your capital, you know, but you are not supposed to get any profit on this because . . . You know, why are people in business? And one of the things that I do know from speaking with people within our industry, our insurance industry, is that many of them are able to effect competitive rates, especially for overseas institutions, because they are able to negotiate rates. They have affiliates with companies that are in what is called “the network” and they are able to negotiate rates, som etimes a 60 per cent or 70 per cent discount. I see that sometimes with my monthly reports that come from Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 69
Bermuda House of Assembly the insurance company that say this is what the hospital has charged, this is what we have paid them. The hospital may have charged $1,000. The insurance company has paid that hospital maybe $300. You would think, on average, that this hospital would bill me for the $700 differential. But they do not because the negotiated rate for the provision of services is that there is a 70 per cent discount. As a result of that, Mr. Speaker, people are able to get benefits. We heard earlier that there is a pool of 48,000. Now because there is a pool of 48,000 in Bermuda who are required to have insurance, it does not necessarily say that the efficiencies that we have within the system that will administer that [pool] will also be able to automatically control the rates because one of the things that we looked at. We want to talk about the rates of premium, but we also have to look at the cost of providing services. And we cannot effectively manage health care if we do not look at both together. It is okay to say, let us bring the premium down. But also if the premium comes down but the cost of service providers stays up, then you are self - defeating. And what will happen in such an instance, Mr. Speaker, is that if you have . . . you know, look at things like prescriptions. There is a dispensing fee which, in some instances, ends up costing more than your net pay on a prescription itself. You know, you pay a dispensing fee. Who is looking at that? These are the things that we have to look at before we say let us dismantle and disrupt the system. We have some 3,000, I believe, uninsured or underi nsured individuals. I think we can have a legislati ve approach that says to existing insurance companies, You are required to cover people who are from that particular statistical population. And there is nothing wrong with saying that if you have got, you know, 20,000 people in your pool, and if we have, let us say . . . well, we got 48,000. We have got three major insurers. So we are talking about 16,000, 17,000 per insurer if we spread it out evenly. So, if we spread that 3,000, to say to that company, they are required to insure these extra 1,000 peopl e, and you price them in with the rates that you charge, that way you do not have the Government having to have the responsibility of the amounts of subsidies that are required either for aged, indigent or youth subsidies where the Government is on the hook for all of it. We can spread that risk and we can mandate that companies fulfil their responsibility because it is not just business sense, but it is a moral responsibility, in my estimation. It is a duty. So, when we hear this . . . the National Health Plan that was in effect on which there had been ex-tensive consultation prior to the 2012 election, one of the things that was frightening to a significant number of the community is that it was placed that the insurance, I am sorry, the international busi ness would be responsible for footing the significant portion of the bill. And that caused people to be a little bit concerned. Some of them were thinking that if they have to do this, then they do not have to be here because they can get better rates for services that are required for insureds . . . you know, for clinical services they can actually pay less if they move to a different juri sdiction. And I think my honourable colleague, Ms. Scott, Deputy Leader, indicated that the President of the United St ates has made business operating onshore in the United States far more attractive than it used to be. So, companies do not have to be here. And what we do not want to do is work in an environment in which we are trying to decimate the capital because we think that there is something wrong with this word called “profit.” We do not want to decimate companies because the companies that we have here, insurance companies, employ somewhere in the order of 500 to 600 people. So, if you decimate those companies and they are no longer able to operate on a business model . . . and there is nothing wrong with it because, as I said earlier, they are putting their capital at risk in order to have that company going. If you decimate them, where do you put the 600 people that , if they decide, You know what? I really do not need to operate—because they are not benevolent —I am not going to put up my $30 million, take it out of my petty cash tin, and put my $30 million up, to know that there is som ething wrong with me having return on my investment . So, if I decide, You know what? Let me shut this down. Then what do you have? You have an i ndustry that has been decimated because of gover nment, legislative requirements and impositions . You find that those companies can no longer operate and you have a significant number of unemployed people, because that is what will happen. And this is not about, you know, the sky is falling . I have spoken with people who were part of the consultative process and I understand that BHeC, the Health Council, is not particularly enamoured with some of the recommendations that have come up. The study that they were looking at is predicated upon a 2002 study , when they are talking about singlepayers ; a 2002 study, which by 2004 was already outdated. I am not saying it made countries bankrupt, but it certainly was outdated. And you find as efficiencies come online it is a lot better to have people who know what they are doing in the industry than to say this is now another way that we as a Government can collect all the premium , and there is no case management. We have to effect a regime of managed care. But there is no case management , so there is nothing to say what the expenditure is going to be, the admin cost. As we mentioned earlier this morning in one of the Ministerial Statements , there are times when admini strative costs can become prohibitive compared to the revenue that is coming in. And we have to look at 70 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly things like that. So, there are certain people in industries who are familiar with how businesses work and who look at how they can maximise what is the cost of business by looking at everything. All of the providers , whether it be a doctor . . . you know , I look at things such as imaging, magnetic imaging and the like. Mr. Speaker, we have a new facility going up a few blocks from here which we have got enough, in my estim ation, of that particular type of technology that already exists for the population of the size that we have. But, you know, we have a free capitalistic s ociety . And i n that society everybody . . . I have the right to go down and say I am going to build, you know, I am going to build a facility and I am going to bring in that machine and I am going to provide it. But I know that I am going to have to pay for it. So, are we looking at effectively determining what the optimum amount of machinery, equipment , is that we need for specific procedures ? Have we looked at that? And can we do these things first , while we are also looking at the best way to provide health care for everybody ? So I have given a couple of recommendations. Force the existing insurance companies to insure those people who are under -insured or uni nsured. Look at total service provision in all of its forms in all the providers. Look at the premium before we start looking at absorbing everything into one pool , two pools , or whatever the case might be, and find that we may have administrative costs that have gone totally out of whack and we are totally unable to sustain it. Mr. Speaker, how much time do I have?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou have a minute and 24 seconds. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay, there is one final thing that I want to say. I am just going to move from health care, and the one thing that I am going to say in that final minute is , we talk …
You have a minute and 24 seconds.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay, there is one final thing that I want to say. I am just going to move from health care, and the one thing that I am going to say in that final minute is , we talk about reducing costs so that there is more money available. We heard it lauded loud and clear when we did the ICO legislation, the Initial Coin Offering legislation, that the average person in the street has been left out of the economic circle and therefor e this is an opportunity for people to get involved. I said at that time that the ICO legislation in the way that we had discussed it was not going to assist the poor person in the street , like me , to be able to get anything other than perhaps the abi lity to do some administrative and compliance work. They are not going to earn the kind of revenue from the ICO regime that was being touted at that time. It is important that we embrace all of our people, that we look to see what are we offering, how we can do it , not just expeditiously but fairly to everybody, Mr. Speaker . And I think that before we start to di smantle and disrupt an entire system because som ebody seemed to think that it was appropriate to put a socialistic environment in a capitalistic societ y, we should not be looking to fit a square peg into a round hole. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? [Time r beeps ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I know that the Honourable Member who has just taken her seat when seeking to downplay FinTech as not supporting poor people like her good …
I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member Scott, you have the floor.
Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I know that the Honourable Member who has just taken her seat when seeking to downplay FinTech as not supporting poor people like her good self, is not really being serious. We all recognise . . . and I do not know why I did not hear from the Honourable Member the argument that diversity in the economy is important. And this is what FinTech is. And yet you will hear the attempts to fit i t into some politicised square peg. It is meant to diversify our economy , which is always a good thing. Now, Mr. Speaker, the Throne Speech, which His Excellency was pleased to present on behalf of the PLP Government, in my view and in the view of many people who heard it and applauded for it, I believe it is perhaps the single most important statement of our nation’s state of affairs in a long time, if not in our history. It is easy to defend. It made an accurate diagnosis of the problem and what the problem was, Mr. Speaker. Possibly, on every possible important metric in our society : health care and its cost; educ ation and public education; and the dealing with the traumatically disturbed and misbehaved members of our society that fall out of our public school system, that metric; a regressive tax system, properly highlighted in the report that was tabled in a paper in another communication today; high mortgage rates; steep energy costs; high food costs . And I always remember the president of the BIU. I will continue to cite his metrics with which he reminds this community every occasion he gets about the steep monthly expense cost that began to afflict this nation in the 1970s, mid- 1970s and throughout. These were the metrics and these are the metrics that our Throne Speech identified as completely out of whack. High rent costs . High rent costs, so that your weekly rent does not meet your monthly rent. And, so, it is the reason . . . and I heard the Honourable and Learned Member who describes himself as the rookie in the House, and he does so accurat ely, cite Bishop Lam be’s reference today at Prayer Breakfast, the way we began our morning. Bishop Lam be, a solid leader in our community, has watched Bermuda long enough for him to say what he said today at the Prayer Breakfast, that the Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 71
Bermuda House of Assembly Throne Speech touched him with its burgeoning r eforms. It touched him as a good statement. And, of course, it would have touched him because it is addressing those metrics that I have just referred to and numbered. It touched him because he saw an ambitious statement in the Throne Speech to first identify the metrics that are out of whack and to postulate, from the Government of the day, reforms. So, you could not ask for a better Throne Speech. Mr. Speaker, it made an accurate diagnosis of the problem when it spoke to these high, steep costs for health care and energy costs , and so. No wonder we have a prognosis that has been put in place in the Throne Speech that seeks to address the two societies in Bermuda, the consumer society, one, the consumer ; [then] the other society, the producer, the owner and producer. And any Member of this Honourable House who continues to speak in the context of this reformist Throne Speech today about maintaining the status quo is speaking com plete her esy. They have not heard a thing that Bishop Lam be, as an observer and a participant and alive in this society, obviously has reached a point and found some comfort —more than comfort, found some hope in the prognosis contained in the 2018/19 Throne Speech. I heard the Honourable and Learned Member , Mr. Pearman, speak to the delicate economy of Bermuda. And I heard the Honourable Member , Mrs. Gordon- Pamplin, speak to how profit . . . there is not hing the matter with it. All of these propping up of the system and the status quo have no place in what has been identified in the Throne Speech as a long-passed, a long- passed need for us to be addressing serious reforms because the problem with our com-munity, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Mr. Acting Speaker —
[Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Deputy Speaker, in the Chair]
Hon. Michael J. Scott: —is that the greatest contributors to it are displaced into the role of consumers . And this delicate economy would be made more robust and successful if the consumer class were put in the position of being the producer class. And they could be the insurers. They could be the health care provi ders. They could be the educators. They could be the energy providers , because by 2018 the stewardship of this platform has caused us to have this diagnosis , which is found to be extremely wanting. They have not been good stewards up to date. And it is largely because . . . and many of our problems would be solved, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, if the role of the majority population in the country moved from being one of consumers to being one of owners and producers. You have dynamism, innov ation, new players, new ideas. It would be a marked, marked improvement, a marked development of our economy. But we will not move there without the energy and r esolve of this ambitious Throne Speech and a PLP Government , because we continue to hear that we must hold on and keep things as they are. And those kinds of heresies must be rejected. They have to be rejected—w hether they are called communism or socialism or not respecting profit. They have to be rejected. For example, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, members of the Government, this new Government, have been addressing the whole question of workforce deployment and workforce development and workforce trai ning. Now, as a practi cing barrister in this country, a relevant, a critically relevant , element about a dynamic workforce in this country is the whole question of pri son reform and prison realities in our country. We have in our country a criminal justice system whi ch needs [to be] completely dismantled and reformed. Why? Because on a daily basis , for the last 40 years , our criminal justice system has generated the creation of persons, mostly young men, into persons with convi ctions. If they have not been created wit h persons with convictions, they have been created into persons with imprisonment terms , so 290 or so inmates at Wes tgate, literally thousands . All you need to do is read the budget outcomes from year to year, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, which show how many conv ictions the DPP’s office racked up in our country. Convictions directly impact employability. You have to declare these things when you are out into the workforce. So financial assistance asks you to walk around the country and look for jobs, but when you have to declare the number of persons who have convictions , men, the breadwinner s, the typical breadwi nners . . . and, now in a modern society the women are as equal the breadwinner s. But in ordinary parlance, it is important that we note that black males , white males . . . but go down to the Magistrate’s Court . Generally , for the last 30 years in Magistrate’s Plea Court No. 1, the convictions there are primarily of our men. So, that is impacting our workforce strategy. There could not be a more important area crying out for reform than our criminal justice system. No less so, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, than our commercial justice system and our civil justice system as well , civil justice system, for example, where you have heard us go on in the Progressive Labour Party through the Opposition and now into Government about the concerns there and the management of debt and the casting of people into courts for massive amounts of debt. Why is there debt? Again, I refer to the president of the Bermuda Industrial Uni on, Mr. Chris Furbert . I will call them his figures . When he makes the point and he is joined by Robert Stubbs, the economist, or the census most recently taken, that black incomes, the incomes of one society, part of the society fell behind by 13 per cent, and that monthly incomes since, as Mr. Furbert has indicated . . . monthly expenses have outstripped (since the mid-1980s) incomes and have not [been] adjusted. So when you hear speeches in this House about three 72 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly jobs and ten jobs and keep your head abov e water . . . these are the reasons. But the point on the 13 per cent, it is a stark figure for myself. The point about that 13 per cent di sparity of incomes over the last 20 years since 1998, not only indicates disparity; it is an indication of debt. It is another indicia of debt. And no wonder we have so many of us in debt . And then the statistics, again placed in this House, about the levels of stress, the breakup of our marriages, and the increasing divorces because families are impacted by poor health from stress, debt management . It is the story of Bermuda and the Two Bermudas, the two societies —the very theme that we ran a successful 2017 campaign upon. It cannot be ignored. It must not be ignored. The Throne Speech addresses it , and I commend the Premier and the Government Ministers who can easily defend this Throne Speech. I liked the way Minister Kim Wilson stood after the Honourable Learned Member decried two pools and was supported by . . . clearly, this has been the strategy discussed at their caucus where you cannot have insurance manifested as two sensible pools as-sessed and analysed by actuaries to work out in Bermuda because, God forbid, it is a sacred cow that must not be touched. But the Minister of Health set it out plainly and defended i t. As can all of the issues in this Throne Speech by Ministers be defended—from tourism to national security to environment, et cetera. So, this is where we are, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. We would be in a much better place if the dynamism of this economy was translated over into the ignored members of the society who have for too long operated in the role of consumer. We need to become owners of capital, producers of income, and let us see how this society really does take off. Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, I want t o make my contribution to this Throne Speech one where I look for ways to now execute these reforms. This has got to be critical , and I look to my colleague and to Minister Caines who did an excellent job at pulling together a task force led by a task leader to produce the bloc kchain initiative to the point where we became leaders in the entire world for this space. Having a well - educated educator and person with expertise in deli very of reforms is the recommendation I make to head up a delivery unit to del iver on this Throne Speech’s very, very important and necessary reforms , because it is not going to get done unless it has gotten a champion, as was Wayne Caines, championing both FinTech and blockchain. It needs to have a champion, but it needs leadership. And we will have ploughed the sea if we just make this beautiful statement and analysis and diagnosis without delivering on it. And so, my contribution to the Government’s Throne Speech is to look for ways and to put up my hand and say , yes, let us cre ate a delivery unit that can deliver the reforms that are effective and meaningful for the people of this country based on the diag-nosis and the reforms that have been identified in this Throne Speech. Thank you.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Minister Wayne Caines. Minister Caines, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, I have had the opportunity to listen to the Throne Speech [Reply] as artic ulated by the Leader …
Thank you. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Minister Wayne Caines. Minister Caines, you have the floor.
Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, I have had the opportunity to listen to the Throne Speech [Reply] as artic ulated by the Leader of the Opposition. I just had the opportunity to read through it again and it . . . it is u nnecessarily combative. I understand the relationship that the Opposition have, and I understand the role of the Opposition Leader in putting this thing together. But I had a read of it , and my first words are that it is unnecessarily combative. I do understand the tenor . And I hope this is not the line and length of the Opposition’s leadership over the next two to three years. When we look at a number of the things that were said in the Throne Speech, excuse me, the Throne Speech Reply, I just want to go directly to correcting a few things. The thing that struck me as most significant was this paragraph, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, and I c rave your indulgence to read the paragraph, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. “Our young people are losing hope and are being attracted to gangs. Mr Speaker, there are glaring omissions in the ‘Throne Speech Lite’” —let me say that again—"there are glaring omissions in the ‘Throne Speech Lite’ in respect of dealing with gang violence and the increasing gun play in our streets. This, despite the fact that there is a very well - compensated pastor allegedly in total control. Frankly , the reintroduction of parish constables just does not cut it , and neither does a chicken farm. With that in mind, it is disturbing indeed to see the overall lack of focus in identifying vulnerable youth.” When you are going to tell the story, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, you have to tell the whole s tory. When you read the emotive reference to an “overpaid pastor ” and the reference to a “chicken farm ” . . . that is salacious at best. And I know the Acting Opposition, excuse me, the Opposition Leader , and that is not his nature; that is not the tenor of this man. Let us just go through specifics of what the gang enforcement unit is doing in Bermuda because Mr. and Mrs. Smith are listening to this at home and they will get the misguided notion that this Government is not doing anything with reference t o gang violence reduction in Bermuda. Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, we have the Interagency Gang Task, excuse me, the Interagency Gang E nforcement Team. The Interagency Gang Enforcement Team, or the IGET . They are a working group of all Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 73
Bermuda House of Assembly available resources and i nformation that are used to identify key persons, locations, groups who are deemed to be at risk to our community through their association or connection with gangs. This is chaired by Assistant Commissioner Daniels. They have monthly meetings, Mr. [Deputy ] Speaker, with the Commissioner of Police, Customs, Immigration, the Department of Education, Court Services, the D epartment of Child and Family Services and the Gang Violence Reduction Team. That is one. The next thing we do is community outreach. The G ang Violence Reduction Unit maintains a connection to the community through direct interaction with at -risk individuals. This is achieved by fostering positive trustworthy relationships in their environment. The Outreach Team is doing the following to reduce instances happening in our community: 1. They meet regularly with targeted individuals to reduce community violence by exploring tensions, de-escalating tensions, mediating incidents, providing individual coaching. 2. They case manage individuals and they connect them to social services , and they support indivi duals through community crisis situations. In other words, the Community Action Team where there is a young man, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, that says that he has had enough of the gang lifestyle and he wants to transition out, the social worker that is within his group puts together a plan for him to get, if needed, mental health treatment, if needed a BAR C assessment, a Bermuda Assessment R eferral if there is substance abuse, if he needs to get education. A case manager in the programme is put together for them. If something is happening with his family, they are constantly engaged, em-bedded, meeting in at -risk communities in our community. Not some days —every single day. 3. Prison outreach (that is number three) . This a llows members to provide many avenues of support for incarcerated violent offenders. The VRU may offer therapeutic services, liaise with prison staff, assist with inmate rehabilitation or providing an affirming resource to assist with their wellbeing while they are incarcerated for their reintegration into society. 4. The Crisis Coordinated Response Team. This team works to restore peace in the community and assist family members, friends, and witnesses in the immediate aftermath of violent incidents. So, this summer when we had the unfortunate murder, they immediately dispatched to the hospital, they dispatched to the area where the shooting was. They went into homes, they put together an immediate crisis response team made up of professionals, made up of volunteers, but they are in the eye of the storm when something transpires. 5. Triage Services. These are members of the community affected by violent crimes that often reach out to the VRU for assistance. They attempt to directly address problems, conc erns with individuals and [connect ] them with the appropriate support serv ices. 6. The School Initiative. The School Initiative from the Gang Violence Team started in September and they worked with the administration and st udent services team at CedarBridge and Berkeley alongside with the Bermuda Police Service to pr ovide support services for at -risk students. Exa mple: There was a gigantic melee with students going down Corkscrew Hill. As many people saw on social media, this was an immediate crisis. A portion of our team has been embedded for the last two months at the Berkeley Institute. A part of the team has been embedded in the CedarBridge [Academy.] A part of the strategy, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, is number one, to target at -risk young men and women whilst t hey are in their schools , and then another part of the strategy is when young men are ready to go out, to make the necessary services for them to get out. A part of the School Initiative is programmes in both schools. This week there was a major incident going down Corkscrew Hill with reference to school -age chi ldren. The team immediately were able to go to CedarBridge and carry out what we will commonly call “an intervention” —finding out who the main protagonists were, sitting them around a table with scho ol police and members of our team they were able to work together to find a common resolve. Oftentimes, we see problems in our community and we want to see the quick and overt and public fixes. The Gang Violence Reduction Team has a significant plan that i s a long- term solution to ending and stemming gun violence in Bermuda. The team works with school’s administration and they put together plans for safety for students. 7. Mediation Services. Mediation Services has coordinated with several sessions aimed at reducing tensions with rival gangs between the Island’s senior schools. So the Mediation Services, this is something that is active. These are not things that are to come, these are things that are happening in our school where you are taking young men and allowing them to mediate and integrate. We heard that this is an overpriced pastor and a chicken farm. These are the things that I am tel ling you that are transpiring right now in our community on a day -to-day basis. 8. Individual Student Support Sessions. The team offers individual sessions to young men known to participate in antisocial behaviour. Two hours ago, one of the at -risk young men that was in the m elee going down Corkscrew Hill, one of his assignments was to sit in here today and watch this part of this Throne Speech Reply. He came in with a Gang Violence Reduction Coordinator. He sat in . . . key members of Parliament were called outside 74 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly to give him some inspiration and tell their stories, a part of the mediation programme. Again, we want to minimi se it for a sound bite to a chicken farm and an overpriced pastor. Well, today we are going to correct that, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. 9. Group Session. The team is currently delivering a 10-week pilot excellence programme at the Bermuda . . . excuse me, at the CedarBridge Academy. The programme focuses on incident medi ation, understanding risk levels and encouraging self-reflection and introspection. This is a pr ogramme that we are piloting in the schools, [for] these young men that find themselves in difficult situations. How do you diffuse it? How do you i ntrospect? How do you balance yourself? So, we have heard about programmes thus far in the schools, in the community —crisis coordinating team, long- term plans that help our young men, short -term plans to deal with problems as they i ndeed arise. 10. GREAT —Gang Resistance Education and Trai ning. The GREAT programme is a youth education and awareness initiative that teaches life skill lessons and addresses antisocial behaviour in Bermuda. Last school [year], Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, the programme trained 513 students in 22 schools, 4 middle schools and 15 primary schools. This summer, four new customs officers were trained as facilitators to teach in the schools. The facilitators are currently running the programme in six schools around the Island. Does that just sound like a chicken farm and an overpaid pastor? Well, let us just talk about the chicken farm, because we want to reduce that into a sound bite. The name of that farm, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, will be called Redemption Farms. I think the name of the farm is apropos because it deals with some of the challenges that we have in Bermuda. A Redemption Farm will be an opportunity for at -risk young men and women to be in a therapeutic environment. The first part of thi s will be the therapeutic part of it. In other words, young men and women will simply not be out grazing and raising chickens. Our young people will be assessed before they join the programme [for] mental health challeng-es [by] BARC, Bermuda Assessment and Referral Services. They will be given a case manager and, because you have different entities in Bermuda, they will be assessed for their suitability of this programme. The programme is now being penned. Remember, we are talking about the academic part of the programme, where a person comes into the programme. You look and make sure that they are fit for purpose, and then they enter into the programme. [This] is a programme that you deal with them with conflict resolution, with challenges, dress for success, time management, people management. It is going to be a 12- week pr ogramme, where people are going to be allowed to come in, they are in crisis, they are immediately tr iaged with help and support services, case management that allows them to balance themselves and to be able to be reintegrated in our society. That is phase one. The interesting thing about this Government and what we are trying to do . . . we are not just trying to give away fish. We are trying to teach the people of Bermuda how to fish . And in keeping with this agenda—that we will not apologise for, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker —we feel that it is important to teach them a skill. And we believe that farming not only has the necessary therapeutic elements of it with the hands in the soil, but it is indeed an excellent opportunity for the young men to learn a trade and to indeed have the ability to make money from this endeavour. We have the opportunity to talk to key farmers in Bermuda. On Monday at 5:30, I will have a meeting with the Bermuda Farmers Association to discuss and share with them their plan. We have a young Berm udian farmer who is taking on the farming advice to the Ministry on this. We have a local restaurant that has indicated (outside of us) going to the farmer’s market and selling our wares. Anything that we do not sell, this local Bermudian restaurant (who we will name in due course) has said they will buy everything that we can raise and farm. And we will be doing it organically. The purpose of this farm is multifaceted. The purpose of the farm is not only, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, to allow people to raise and sell produce and to have recompense. The purpose of Redemption Farm is to take at -risk young people and put them in a therapeutic environment to have the proper helping servi ces. And we do not have to reinvent the wheel. We have a Department of Child and Family Services. We have Court services which already have counselling that is available. A number of the at -risk young men . . . guess what? They happen to be on parole. They already have a number of the reports already done. What the Government is saying is that we are talking to different ministries and we are saying that we have a key corps of constituents and that we can allow them. Now, if we were to just mention Redem ption Farm in and of its own, that would just be R edemption Farm. We just gave you six other things that this Government continues to do. And remember, I have not even mentioned Pastor Leroy Bean yet. Pastor Leroy Bean is the man that leads this initiative on a day -to-day basis. Right now he is at the home of an incident where some issues are breaking out in our community. And what people do not see, there are constantly . . . every night he is in the belly of the storm, someone on our team, because we only see when someone is shot. What we do not realise is that because of the disquiet in our community we have to work with the IGTF [Inter -Agency Gang Task Force]. And that, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, is the Police, that is Customs, that is all of the policing agencies. We established that policing is a part of this. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 75
Bermuda House of Assembly But you saw the transition through the piece where we talked about the training. We had six young men in Westgate all serving periods of incarceration for murder, just due to empty violence, working through the issues, of course, in the Westgate Correctional Facility. We have seen another core dem ographic do yoga in prison. This is not happenstance. This is not just a chicken farm as you try to reduce the Government’s Throne Speech to these awful sound bites. This is a Government that has thought through these things, giving you articulated plans [on] how we plan to change this country. And the Throne Speech is replete with these initiatives. I saw over 16 references to “It was the OBA did,” “It was the OBA did,” “It was the OBA that fi nished.” Well, that rings hollow when you sit in Oppos ition. Have we not learned from those mistakes? The ability for a Government to do all of those things, but it did not resonate with the people of Bermuda. We will not fall into those traps. We have the ability to do things for the business community but also to look at the social needs of this country. How can we apol ogise for putting Bermuda first, making opportunities for people through tax concessions? How can we apol ogise for the working men in this country that are strug-gling every day? We only stand here because they voted us in. And so you now expect for us to follow in your footsteps and lose our very place of prominence because we do not listen to the needs of these people? Why would we even apologise for having an agenda that focuses on the people of Bermuda—the very people that are struggling, the very people that are hurting in this country? Why would we apologise for trying to make their lives better? When you look at the Reply to the Throne Speech . . . it spoke about Immigration. Again, another falsehood. The Minister that had responsibility for Immigration before me has a working group. And on that working group there are two Members of the Opposition. We sat together this week, we know what the blueprint is. We will share this in due course. I have had the opportunity, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, to share those thoughts with the team at Bermuda First. Mr. Phil Butterfield met with me yesterday, him and his team. And we shared with them the outlined and the strategic plan that we have for going through that. If the Leader of the Opposition needs to understand what the plan is, he has two Members. The Learned Shadow Minister that sits O pposite is a member of thi s and he sees and he knows the plan. He knows that it is a work in progress, that it is a legitimate plan, which tackles head- on the problems of immigration. I will not run from the fact that there is a backlog of work permits. Why would I run from that? I have come into that position, and I have looked at that problem. We have put together a plan, and we are aggressively tackling that problem. I have articulated the challenges that we have. Why do we have the challenges? I am not going to go back to what the OBA did. I am saying that we inherited some challenges and we are putting together a plan that would require looking at getting these work permits approved in short order. And guess what? Those work permits that . . . we are working through them. We have spoken to ABIC, ABIR, the Chamber of Commerce. We have spoken to the Bermuda Hoteliers Association. We have met with them. We have shared our plans on what we are going to do. And guess what they have said? We appreciate the notif ication. We appreciate the plan, and when we have something we will directly reach out to the team. And, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, I believe that is indeed pr ogress. When it comes to comprehensive immigration reform, that is in train. We have a clear plan. I did not make this plan. I found this committee deeply ensconced in their work. As much as we want to rush it to the beginning, this is not something that we can rush. This is something that has been done in consultation with the local stakeholders. And it is something . . . bec ause it is that seismic to this country, and the reform is taking place. It is in a place of prominence. It has a Minister that is focused on it and a team — including Members of the Opposition—that I am pleased and honoured to work with to bring this as an offering to the people of Bermuda to show how we can take our country, indeed, from strength to strength. I read in the Throne Speech [Reply] the references to FinTech and cryptocurrencies and the over-reliance on and the risk to our economy based upon. And I hear the former Opposition Leader, Mr. Dunkley, speak, and it reminds me that they . . . and I do not disparage, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. They do not understand it. The do not understand the technology. They do not understand the trajectory. What they foc us on, and they limit this Government to, is the myopia of their understanding of FinTech.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Wayne Caines: I, I, I . . .
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Wayne Caines: The myopia and the lack of understanding of an industry is forcing the Opposition to make comments that show their lack of understanding. It is almost like Christopher Columbus going to Ferdinand and Isabella and asking them for recompense to go around the world and everybody in the court and the courtesans are convinced that the world is, indeed, flat. They not only have to convince them that the world is round; they have to get the money to go and pay for the voyage. 76 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly And, so, we are sitting in a room with people who are convinced that the world is indeed flat . When everybody . . . when the Caribbean Blockchain All iance has come together, when all of them . . . when the Maltese, when the Swiss, when everybody is looking at FinTech as the wave of the future, they stand flat-footed like the rest of the world in 1998 to 1999 when they were convinced that the dotcom and the Internet would not be the bastion of business. This is the exact same mentality. This is the exact same mentality that we are dealing with today, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. The Government has been bold. You hear references to cryptocurrency. This strategy does not centre around cryptocurrency. The Premier leads a team that is dealing with FinTech. That is RegTech. That is MedTech. When you look at the reinsurance company, the biggest thing in blockchain technology right now is the ability for Bermuda to lead in putting the reinsurance and everything on the blockchain. When Joe Lubin, one of the biggest persons in this space, came to Bermuda, he was so excited to talk to our reinsurance entities because Bermuda can lead the world in a new burgeoning form of FinTech. When you hear what is going on with medical science and putting medical records on technology, and what is going on in pharmaceuticals, Bermuda is centred to be the absolute epicentre of the world. Now, that takes me to my next point. We have seen very little movement in this space. Or I [heard] MP Pearman say, Well, look at Arbitrade. O ye, of little faith. We are putting together industry, and Rome was not built in a day. We have said to everyone that we are not going to not . . . we are not going to deal with . . . not deal with economic substance. We are not going to deal with the tourism industry. We are not not going to focus on finance. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. We are looking at ways of diversifying the economy. In one breath they are saying that the Throne Speech was too based on socialism, and in the very other breath when we are . . . socialism. And when we are trying to diversify the economy, they speak out the other side of their neck saying, Why are they trying to be so risky with the economy? You cannot have it both ways!
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Wayne Caines: This Government has to balance what is in the best interest, not only of the oligarchy, not only of the financial elite. We have to look out for Mr. and Mrs. Bermuda. And we cannot, and will not, apologise for building a better and fairer Berm uda. We will not apologise for standing strong for Bermudians. We are taking on the fortunes that have kept our wages low, our opportunities down and our health care and our light bills high. Bermuda has changed; and it has changed for the better. However, despite this progress we are still a long way from a better and fairer Bermuda. And we are still far way better and we have a fairer Bermuda than we were last year when the people voted for us. We have the opportunity, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, through a leader that has the ability to think, that has the ability to challenge authority, challenge the oligarchy, cha llenge the banks, challenge the financial inst itutions, and say to his team, T his is how hard I want you to work. I want you to focus without apology on the people of Bermuda. I want you to focus on making this country fairer so when your children need an opportunity, they have opportunities. And that is what this does. And we will not apologise for it. Do not think that we cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, because we can focus on the economy. We can focus on the budget. We can focus on immigration. We can focus on crime at the same time. Thank you very much, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you. Are there other . . . the Chair recognises the Honourable Member Sylvan Richards. Mr. Richards, you have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . I hope I can follow up after that Honourable Member ’s enthusiasm and evangelism. It is a …
Thank you. Are there other . . . the Chair recognises the Honourable Member Sylvan Richards. Mr. Richards, you have the floor.
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . I hope I can follow up after that Honourable Member ’s enthusiasm and evangelism. It is a tough act to follow, but I am going to do my best. But before I get into my remarks, Mr. Deputy Speaker , I would like to just take a few minutes to thank retired PS Wayne Carey, who recently retired from the civil service after a number of years of yeoman service. He was my permanent secretary for a stint while I was Minister. He was very helpful to me. I found him to be a very compassionate, very professional civil servant. His loss is a loss to Bermuda, and I wish him the best in all of his future endeavours. Now, getting into the Throne Speech debate. I sat on the grounds of Cabinet the other day and li stened to the PLP’s Throne Speech with great interest. And I listened very, very carefully. The PLP is the Government of the day. They were elected by a mandate, and that is politics. Now, I sit here as an Oppos ition MP, and I have a job to do. I was elect ed by my constituents to scrutinise the Government, to hold them to account in a fair way, and not just to criticise. And I can say, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that I have sat here for almost 16 months since the election. And I have allowed the Government to establish a track record. I believe in they will show you who they are if you just sit quietly and observe. Now that the Government has a track record, I can speak to it. And I do not profess to know ever yOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 77
Bermuda House of Assembly thing about everything, but I know what my eyes tel l me, and I know what I hear when I walk the streets of Bermuda. To me, the theme of the PLP’s Throne Speech is three words: tax and spend. It is quite apparent. And we were given the Tax Reform booklet today, and I will go home and I will read it thoroughly from cover to cover. Bermudians can expect for their taxes to be increased. And ironically, it is not the taxes on international business that are going to be i ncreased. Taxes are going to be increased on local Bermudian businesses. People are going to be asked to give more to this Government because this Government, Mr. Deputy Speaker , has very real challenges. And they are the same challenges that the OBA faced when we were Government. The challenges remain the same regardless of who wins the election. And the remedy remains the same regardless of who wins the election. Now, from where I sit, Mr. Deputy Speaker, the taxes that have already been imposed on the Bermudian public and the new taxes that are coming down the pipeline are similar to squeezing water out of a rock. The difficulty is that the Government is challenged to make that rock bigger. We need a bigger rock. The only way you can make that rock bigger so that you can squeeze that rock and get out the taxes that you need is by stimulating t he economy, encouraging inward foreign investment and diversifying our economy. Now, I give the Government credit because now they are in the driver’s seat, and I am sure at their Cabinet meetings they are having the same sort of discussions that we had in our Cabinet when we were Government. What can we do to create jobs in this country? What can we do to diversify our economy? It is too narrow. We have a deficit. We have massive debt to pay. It has to be paid. So, unless we can do something to increase the funds coming into government, dark days are ahead, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Now, the Government knows, the Premier knows, his Cabinet knows that a key part of the sol ution is going to be amending Bermuda’s immigration policy. And we all know how controvers ial that is. There are some on the other side . . . and I am sure their opinions vary just like our opinions vary. What do we do? But the problem remains the same. Bermuda must increase its resident population. We just do not have enough people on this lit tle rock, this little coral rock out here in the middle of nowhere. We do not have enough people to support the size of the Government that we have. It is a fact. It is not scaremon-gering. It is not criticism for the sake of criticising. It is a fact. We have a shrinking population, an ageing population combined with a declining birth rate. And also what is not being spoken about, but I hear it daily, there is a continuing exodus of Bermudians leaving Bermuda. Even after the election, Mr. Deputy Speaker, people are still leaving Bermuda. Our students are being educated abroad in institutions in the United Kingdom, America and Canada, and they are casting a wary eye towards their home, Bermuda. And they are asking questions. Should I go back home?
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCome back. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Is there a job for me if I go back home? And what I am hearing, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that students are saying, Unless som ething happens soon, I am not coming back . Soon we are going to have a brain …
Come back.
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Is there a job for me if I go back home? And what I am hearing, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that students are saying, Unless som ething happens soon, I am not coming back . Soon we are going to have a brain drain, just like we have been having all these years. The Government has to make tough decisions to address this problem. As I said earlier, the problem is the same as when the OBA was Government, and the solution is the same. Now, I am not a pessimist; I am an optimist. I always see the glass as half full. But I am going to make a prediction. I am going to go out on a limb. And I am doing it because I want it to be in the Hansard. Before 2012, Bob Richards stood in this place, and he gave the PLP Government of that time a warning. He said, A recession is coming. Get ready. His words went unheeded, and Bermuda found itself in the throes of a recession that took years to reverse. And I am going to make another prediction—
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCrystal ball? Mr. Syl van D. Richards, Jr.: —that this PLP Government is going to be forced—
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCrystal ball light. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —to do exactly what the OBA Government attempted to do in order to grow our resident population. I know they are having those di scussions, not because my ear is to the wall, or, as the Honourable MP Rolfe Commissiong said, I …
Crystal ball light.
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —to do exactly what the OBA Government attempted to do in order to grow our resident population. I know they are having those di scussions, not because my ear is to the wall, or, as the Honourable MP Rolfe Commissiong said, I had a cry stal ball. It is because the problem is the same. It has not changed.
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongMr. [Deputy] Speaker — point of order. The Depu ty Speaker: What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Rolfe CommissiongHe is misleading the House. I did not say they had a crystal ball. I said he had a crystal ball light.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerCarry on. 78 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly [Laughter] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: That will be ignored. As I was saying, this PLP Government is going to have to do what the OBA Government attempted to do in order to grow our resident …
Carry on.
78 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly [Laughter] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: That will be ignored. As I was saying, this PLP Government is going to have to do what the OBA Government attempted to do in order to grow our resident population. And that is that they are going to have to provide status to long- term resid ents—those residents who are already here, who have been living here for years. And that is what they have to attack. [ Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: I am making a predi ction. And I heard. I hear the winds. The winds are al-ready starting up. [ Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: I must be saying som ething controversial. [ Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: But it is going to go in the Hansard. And in a year or two we will revisit it, and we wil l see who was right. [ Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: They will provide status to long- term residents and . . . and . . . I am sure they are having discussions about commercial immigration. [ Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: And for those listening, commercial immigration is when you say, We need some millionaires, multimillionaires, billionaires living in Bermuda— [ Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —we need to have them here and we are going to make a way for them to come here and start jobs . And we will give them a passport. We will give them status. [Laught er and inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: So, that is what is going to happen. That is my prediction. Now, the Honourable Member who took his seat before I stood up, talked about FinTech. The PLP’s Throne Speech, I noticed, mentioned very little of FinTech. Now, to be clear, I support the Gover nment’s attempts to diversify our economy. I support the Government’s at tempts to develop blockchain technology here. The issue, which is not being said, is that blockchai n technology is still i n its i nfancy. M any countries around t he worl d are looki ng at it. Many businesses ar ound the world ar e trying to figur e out a way t o us e blockchai n technology t o provi de efficiencies t o their bus iness. I k now r einsurance is l ooking at it. Everybody is looki ng at it bec ause it i s the wave of the future. It is nothi ng to be scared of. T here is not hing controv ersial. [Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: The problem right now is that blockchain technology currently is being used in non- critical operations. It is used in non- critical o perations. [ Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: And no one has figured out yet how to monetise blockchain technology.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWhat? Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: It is being used to cr eate efficiencies and that monetisation of this new technology is about two years old. So, they can sell this bill of goods to the Bermudian public that it is going to create jobs next week, Thursday —
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberNobody said that. Ano ther Hon. Member: No one said that. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —and that it is going to be young people working in blockchain technology after w e train them up. It is not going to happen in time to turn this Government around, to turn …
Nobody said that. Ano ther Hon. Member: No one said that. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —and that it is going to be young people working in blockchain technology after w e train them up. It is not going to happen in time to turn this Government around, to turn our economy around. It is not going to happen. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, point of order. This Member is misleading the House today — The Deputy Speak er: What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Wayne Caines: That there has . . . at no time did we say that this was going to turn Bermuda around in the next day and that it, to paraphrase, is a magic bullet for the country or for the economy, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker . Never.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerCarry on, Member. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you for verifying what I just said, Honourable Member. Cryptocurrency — [ Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 79 Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Until I see something concrete, Mr. Deputy …
Carry on, Member. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you for verifying what I just said, Honourable Member. Cryptocurrency — [ Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 79
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Until I see something concrete, Mr. Deputy Speaker, happening in this country, as far as I am concerned, cryptocurrency is a sideshow and has the potential to harm Bermuda’s hard- earned financial reputation. I will park that right there. Until somebody pr oves me wrong, it is a sideshow.
[Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: You see, you hear a lot of talk about cryptocurrency. I am not going to spend a lot of time talking about it, but you hear a lot of talk about cryptocurrency, and what it is going to do for our economy. The problem is that . . . the challenge is converting digital currency into fiat currency or cash. They are still trying to figure that out. So, I wish you the best with that, but good luck. Now, after 16 months in Gov ernment, the PLP Government now understands just how difficult it is to stimulate job creation. It is hard, Mr. Deputy Speaker . And they understand now just how difficult it is. And when you are in politics, you know that you live or die based on how your people feel. Do they have money in their pockets? Do they have job security? And right now, it is still very tenuous out there, and the Berm udian public are patiently waiting for all these promises to come to fruition. I do not envy the Premier. He has the unenv iable position of walking a thin line. He must satisfy his base while making difficult, practical decisions that are going to upset his base. So, their PR machine is going to have to be on full effect because, as I stated earlier, the problems are t he same and the solutions are the same and the medicine is bitter. Now, the PLP Government —
[Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: —seems to have an infatuation with the fictional country of Wakanda, which came out of the mind of the rec ently deceased Stan Lee.
[Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: I do not have to be car eful about anything. I speak my mind. And I live by it, too. Always have, always will. So, there seems to be this infatuation with the fictional count ry of Wakanda. I went and saw the Black Panther movie. I enjoyed it. I was very — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: It was a good movie.
[Inaudible interjections ] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: You said it.
[Inaudible interjections] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I have an infatuation with the HBO show Game of Thrones . Game of Thrones . I am sure there are a number of people in this Chamber who watch Game of Thrones . Game of Thrones is a very interesting show. It is very political. It is very, very political, and that is why I like it. Seven kingdoms fighting for control of the Iron Throne. And then you have the infighting amongst the seven kingdoms. However, in the upcoming last season that is going to start next April, the seven kingdoms are forced to come together to defend against the Night King, a common enemy. And the theme of the last season is “Winter is Coming.”
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberFor Theresa May —not us. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Unless this PLP Government can create jobs, pay down our debt, reduce the deficit, winter is coming, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Our economic indicators at this moment are all pointing in the wrong direction. It is a fact. Our ec …
For Theresa May —not us.
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Unless this PLP Government can create jobs, pay down our debt, reduce the deficit, winter is coming, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Our economic indicators at this moment are all pointing in the wrong direction. It is a fact. Our ec onomic indicators are pointing in the wrong direction. Is Bermuda slipping into another recession? Time will tell. And what is interesting about this period of time is that our closest trading party, the United States of America . . . their economy is booming. Jobs are being created. I hate to even say this because I think the President is a knucklehead, but their economy is booming. So, if America sneezes, Bermuda gets a cold. Conversely, if America is feeling healthy and strong, then so should Bermuda. And I am putting down another marker, Mr. Deputy Speak er. If our economy slips into another recession—and all the indicators look like it is heading that way —the Progressive Labour Party Government will own it hook, line and sinker. Gaming had the potential to create jobs in this country.
[Inaudible inter jections]
Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: And that is not going to happen. Gaming is not going to happen in this country. Prove me wrong, because the chalice has been poisoned. That job has been advertised around the world, how many number of times? You are going to tell me there is not one person qualified in gaming out there in that big wide world who would take on the job in Bermuda? No, they are not going to take it on. Why? Because the chalice has been poisoned because of interference by the Progressive Labour Party Government. And the Bermuda Tourism Authority is 80 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly the one bright spot that we have going on for us right now. The one bright spot. Let us see how long it takes before this Progressive Labour Party messes that up. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. [ Desk thumping]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you, Mr. Sylvan. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE DEPUTY SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerI would just like for the House to recognise the Premier of the Youth Parliament. She was sitting in the Gallery. [ Desk thumping] [ Debate on the 2018 Throne Speech and Reply continuing]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerAny further speakers? The Chair . . . Mr. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, we have heard a lot today. And what we have heard today is similar to what I have often spoke about, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker , and that is the …
Any further speakers? The Chair . . . Mr. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, we have heard a lot today. And what we have heard today is similar to what I have often spoke about, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker , and that is the past versus the future. Today, I listened to the Leader of the Oppos ition, who is put there as a representative of those who are fighting for the forces of the past, flanked by one directly to his left who decides that he is going to stand up in this Parliament in 2018 and question what the voters blessed about expanding maternity leave from 8 weeks to 13 weeks. In 2018, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker . In 2018, we listened this past speak about the fact that we need to have a more fair tax system, Mr. Deputy Speaker . We get to listen to people on that side, Honourable Member s on that side, Mr. Deputy Speaker, talk about the past and wonder why the country is in the situation and state of which it is. Let me explain to you something, Mr. Deputy Speaker, because it seems the only people who are pessimistic about the future of Bermuda sit over there, and [they] number 11. Because when you go on the international stage, when you go on the international scene, when you are like I was with the Minister of Finance yesterday raising money with the tightest spreads that this country has ever gotten, beating anything that was done under that former Gover nment, it shows that the people around the world have confidence in this Government, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker . [ Desk thumping] Hon. E. David Burt: That is the reason why for the first time in 12 years Bermuda’s economic outlook was upgraded, because people have confidence in the direction of this Government. [ Desk thumping] Hon. E. David Burt: But, yet, we get to sit here and listen to people trying to rewrite history. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: It was absolutely shocking. Now, we all know that the Honourable Opposition Leader has a problem giving full and complete answers to the public. But even— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: —and this House, too! But in the first few pages of his speech, he confused himself! How exactly do you go from the fact to say that there has been no growth in jobs and then a few pages later saying that the PLP is taking credit for 322 more jobs? [ Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, that is right, he probably did not write the speech. [ Laughter] Hon. E. David Bur t: Then, we just hear things that are completely made up. I get to listen to the Leader of the Opposition tell the country that the One Berm uda Alliance decriminalised cannabis. Oh, really? Really? And that is the problem, because in the speech that I gave to the Delegate’s Conference, I was very clear that Bermuda needs a strong and viable Oppos ition. But the challenge is, if the people cannot trust the words that are coming out of the mouth of the Leader of the Opposition, we will not have one! [ Inaudib le interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: So, here we are. So, after we have a Throne Speech that laid out a vision that was supported roundly across this country, whether it be from the Chamber of Commerce or whether it be from the unions, whether it be from international business or local business, even some people over on that side, Mr. Deputy Speaker , said that there were good things to celebrate. Today, we hear nothing but crit icism, doom and gloom for the future from the Leader of the Opposition. So, now let me be very clear. The way in which you ensure that you have a sustainable econo-my for the future is you have to create that economy. And the way you create that economy is by ensuring Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 81
Bermuda House of Assembly that there is equity inside of society. That is the only way that you get sustainability because, let me be very clear, anyone can spend $100 million on a onetime event. Anyone can do it! It is not hard work. What is hard work —
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: What is hard work is putting sustainable things in place in order to ensure that you can have a sustainable future. So, while we hear the Honourable Opposition Leader talking about the fact that we do not have . . . we have crumbling schools, I can tell you what, the $4 million that we are paying in interest for an empty i sland right now would do a whole lot to build some schools. It would do a whole lot. It would do a whole lot.
[Recorded voice: “It would do a whole lot.”]
[Laughter]
Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, I like the repeat. Yes, thank you. List en to it! Listen to it. It echoed.
[Laughter]
Hon. E. David Burt: Yes—
[Laughter]
Hon. E. David Burt: It would mean a whole lot. Now, here is the next thing, because the Honourable Leader of the Opposition, true to form, is there defending the past, defending the status quo inside of this country. So, now we hear in this [Reply] about health care reform. And what about the employees of the health insurance companies? That is the standard line. That is what happens, Mr. Deputy Speaker, whenever there i s something that threatens the core of what inside of this country are parts of the economy which have been carved out and divvied up for people to take profits off of which does not benefit the people of this country. The complaint always comes. The r esponse is always, But what about the employees? What about the staff that work there? Let me explain something to the Opposition Leader. And let me explain something to those people on that side who profess to know about finance. If you reduce costs across t he economy, people have more money to spend and it creates more jobs because the economy is more productive. That is how you build long- term growth. And so, if we are worried about the cost of doing business in Bermuda, if we are really focused on what it takes to have long- term economic growth, then I would expect there would be people on that side who would say, I want to make sure that we have lower health insurance costs in this country because it is beneficial .
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. Dav id Burt: So . . . oh, so they say, Of course we do. The test will come, Mr. Speaker — [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
Hon. E. David Burt: —because when we bring a Bill to Parliament, we will see if that side supports it. We will see wh o is on the side of the people, Mr. Speaker . We will see who is on the side of the people. And I will make a prediction, seeing that people are making predictions all around. The prediction is that, true to form, the past will support the past. And that, Mr. Speaker, is why they will remain the past. Now, I heard the Member who just took his seat talk about immigration. And the statements of which he made were quite interesting. But I think the most interesting statement of all was, he said that “immigra tion reform is controversial.” Mr. Speaker, immigration reform is not controversial if the people trust what you are doing and trust your aims and objectives. But, to be clear, if it is led by the former A ttorney General a day after you lose a bye- election who is going to come out of nowhere and go back on your election promises of where you say you will not grant status and then you go around and say that you will, then it becomes controversial. What this Government recognises is that you have to have a bipartisan approach to these problems. And the same things that we preached in Opposition are the same things that we are sure to enact in Government. And so, on a bipartisan committee, there are people on that side, Mr. Speaker, who are i nvolved in the pr ocess. And it is as clear as day. It does not have to be controversial if you are willing to work together, if you are willing to engage in an honest conversation, and if you are willing to do it to support economic growth in the country and not try to cem ent political power. And that is what immigration has been used for in the past by the past.
[Desk thumping]
Hon. E. David Burt: That is why they, Mr. Speaker, are not trusted on this issue. And that is why, Mr. Speaker, we will be trusted on this issue, because the changes that this country need, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: Boy! The changes that this country needs, Mr. Speaker, are not going to come from people getting up here, talking a lot of noise, like we hear from the Opposition. They are going to come from the work 82 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly and energy and effort. They are going to come from the longest parliamentary session in history which took place the last session that we had. They are going to come from 125 items coming to this Parliam ent and being put through. And let me speak for a second on that, Mr. Speaker, because it is in the Throne Speech. If we are so concerned about international business on that side, then why did we come into office and just about nothing was done to prepare us for an anti -money laundering assessment? [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: I came into office with complaints from international business and all the rest fearful that the work was not being done. One of the first meetings that I had was the chairman of the National Anti - Money Laundering Committee, and she said if we do not get our act —
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Point of order, Mr. Speaker . Point of order — Hon. E. David Burt: —we will not do well.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPremier, yield for a point of order. Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. The AML r egime . . . I do not care what he chooses to say. I can tell you what we did, …
Premier, yield for a point of order. Point of order.
POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. The AML r egime . . . I do not care what he chooses to say. I can tell you what we did, and the AML regime took constant, weekly pride of place in every single Cabinet meeting that we had. So do not say that we did not hing.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on. Continue on, Member. [Inaudible interjections] The Speake r: Members! Members! Members! [Inaudible interjections] [Gavel] [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers! [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinisters, would you like your Premier to continue, or do you want him to sit down and you continue your speech? Premier, would you like to continue, or do you need assistance? Hon. E. David Burt: I will continue, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Because it is clear that we struck a nerve on that side. But let me be very cl ear. Let me be very, very clear, Mr. Speaker . If they did the work, then we would not have had to have passed 42 Bills …
Thank you.
Hon. E. David Burt: Because it is clear that we struck a nerve on that side. But let me be very cl ear. Let me be very, very clear, Mr. Speaker . If they did the work, then we would not have had to have passed 42 Bills and sit for the longest sitting ever.
[Desk thumping]
Hon. E. David Burt: Plain and simple.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David B urt: So, they can make the noise of which they wish, but they were a lot more focused—
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: —on the party. They were a lot more focused on the optics. They were a lot more f ocused on their election marches up and down Morgan’s Point, a project that was a technical default in January of 2017, six months before the election—
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWe did not hear a word. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Well, silence. A $165 million guarantee—silence.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberNo point of order? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Understand? So, yes, the Honourable Member that just took his seat is right. We have problems that we must fix. And the problems of which we have, many of them were left by the former Government. But that is okay, …
No point of order?
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: Understand? So, yes, the Honourable Member that just took his seat is right. We have problems that we must fix. And the problems of which we have, many of them were left by the former Government. But that is okay, Mr. Speaker . You know why? Because that is why we were elected. Now, let me talk about a few things inside of our Throne Speech, because what we heard last week on the Cabinet lawn was a forward- looking v ision for fai rness tackling the challenges that have—
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberBeen embedded. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 83 Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: —engrained in this society. So, when I hear the scion of the Conyers, Dill & Pearman family get up in this House, Mr. Speaker, and criticise FinTech, when his com pany is …
Been embedded.
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: —engrained in this society. So, when I hear the scion of the Conyers, Dill & Pearman family get up in this House, Mr. Speaker, and criticise FinTech, when his com pany is making the most money off of FinTech applications —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott PearmanThe Premier is misleading this House. I said nothing about FinTech in my speech. Hon. E. David Burt: Probably because he was conflicted, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on. Hon. E. David Burt: But I will tell you what he did argue against. What he did argue against —not only the expansion of maternity leave, but he argued against the fact —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPoint of order? POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Scott PearmanThe Premier was not here so he did not see t hat I commended the PLP Throne Speech and commended them for extending maternity leave. [Desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThat is correct. He did support . . . he did support the maternity leave. He supported that. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I was not in the Chamber, but I was listening in my office. And I was listening to the Honourable Member talk about how the fact …
That is correct. He did support . . . he did support the maternity leave. He supported that. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I was not in the Chamber, but I was listening in my office. And I was listening to the Honourable Member talk about how the fact about small business and this, and how it could work and all the rest. So, if he is supporti ve, I look forward to him voting in favour of the amendment when it comes. And we will hold him to his word. But I also heard that same Honourable Member protecting the past, talking about the changes to the social i nsurance system. Now, let me be clear, 42 years ago the United Kingdom changed an unfair system, which someone who paid, [rather] who makes $4,000 a day pays the exact same amount as someone who makes $4,000 a month. It was changed in Canada. It was changed in many places around the world. But here we are 42 years later and all we hear from the protectors of the past is, Oh, be careful of what it might cause. Let us be very clear, the change makes sense. The change is fair. We promised a change in our election manifesto. We won a landslide victory, and we will deliver that change that we promised the electorate to make sure that that system is just a little bit more fair, Mr. Speaker, because that is what we do. I then hear this whole issue of payroll taxes and this whole issue of the economy f altering. Here is the thing, Mr. Speaker, payroll taxes for workers in this country are the lowest that they have been in 23 years.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: This year when we lowered the lowest band of payroll taxes down to 4 per cent, no one has paid that rate in 23 years. But the rhetoric from that side, Mr. Speaker, is, Oh my gosh! You are raising taxes! [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: And not only do we get that, Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members! Keep it down. Hon. E. David Burt: —this side, this Government also said that medium or large employers who increased the levels of staff of which they have will pay no more payroll tax. But, yet, in the alternate reality of the O pposition Leader, we are increasing …
Members, Members! Keep it down.
Hon. E. David Burt: —this side, this Government also said that medium or large employers who increased the levels of staff of which they have will pay no more payroll tax. But, yet, in the alternate reality of the O pposition Leader, we are increasing taxes and taxing people out.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: So, while ABIC praises our tax policy, while ABIR praises our tax policy, while the Chamber of Commerce thanks us for recognising that payroll tax inhibitor for growth, we get to listen to the people who are defending the past just get up to make noise about something. Here is the thing, Mr. Speaker, we will, next year, begin to reduce our debt. That is a fact. This year, as I said in the Budget Statement, is the last year that net debt will increase and next year net debt will decrease.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. E. David Burt: You do not have to hope, Honourable Opposition Leader. It is going to happen. And it is going to happen in the exact same way that we 84 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly came to Parliament this year with a budget which did not increase the debt ceiling. It is going to happen in the exact same way that we beat the spending targets which were established by the last Government, and it is going to happen because we understand and recognise that you have to make choices. But when we talk about tax and spend, I will not apologise for investing in the future of this country by increasing the education budget and making sure that we give people the opportunity to go to school.
[Desk thumping]
Hon. E. David Burt: So, they can say “tax and spend” as much as they like, Mr. Speaker . We have priorities. Our priorities are the most vulnerable in our society. Our priorities are the people who are working very hard to not get ahead, and that is t he reason why this Throne Speech has laid out a progressive vision of the future. Now, before I end, I want to talk about one thing, Mr. Speaker . And it is the topic of FinTech. The past versus the future. When I heard some of the statements today it remi nded me of what Brian O’Hara said when we were in New York at the Bermuda E xecutive Forum in May. And what he said was the way that he heard people talking about FinTech nowadays was the exact same way of which they talked about Bermuda Form Insurance in 1986.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, we all know who Brian O’Hara was. There is a building named after him. It is someone who knows a little bit about insurance. And he is someone who is on the board of a FinTech company that started up in Bermuda—one of the many that have started up in Bermuda under this Gover nment providing income to many law firms.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberBut they will not mention that. Hon. E. David Burt: No, they will not mention that. Houses and hotel properties that never sold a single unit when they were in charge, but all of a sud-den when we are in charge, those units are getting sold. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. …
But they will not mention that.
Hon. E. David Burt: No, they will not mention that. Houses and hotel properties that never sold a single unit when they were in charge, but all of a sud-den when we are in charge, those units are getting sold.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: So, while they say that nothing is happening in Bermuda, Mr. Speaker, Doug Soares who no one will count as a friend of the Progressive Labour Party, says the start -up activity that they are seeing in Bermuda they have not seen in a very long time. Now, we all know that it is going to take a while and FinTech . . . it is not going to happen over-night. And it is certainly not going to happen when we have an Opposition that refuses to be supportive and will criticise at any particular turn. [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: Yes. So whether it is a company that verified funds t o purchase a building which was supported by the Chamber of Commerce in the pur-chase of said building which passed the background checks at the highest level —
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: —but yet they will find space to criticise. But I can tell you who is not criticising. It is the taxes that would be collected off of the stamp duty for the sale of the building. It is the people who are making money off of that transaction for the sale of the building, and it is the future possibilities of which may come. But I want one thing to be very clear. This i ssue, when it comes to reputation, Mr. Speaker, is a serious one. We have said that we will jealously guard our reputation. And we have put in place a regime that has done just that. And you will not find people in the international business community that do not agree with that particular statement. And here is the reason why, Mr. Speaker . A lot of people say that they like regulation. But when they see regulation, they may go som ewhere el se. Bermuda has never been about quantity. Bermuda has been about quality. And the FinTech companies that will set up underneath our regime will be quality companies. The banks that will come to Bermuda under our regime will be quality banks. And we are going to continue to work and to build that i ndustry. And no matter what the noise from the Opposition is, we will not be deterred. Because I would si ncerely hope that in the exact same way that many people recognise that this is the future, that they will recognise it is the future as well, and they will find a way to encourage and to support it as opposed to cri ticising it at every single turn. I trust the Bermuda Monetary Authority. I trust that they can examine any application that comes in front of them and grant a licence accordingly. And I would hope and expect that the other side of this House, Mr. Speaker , would trust the Bermuda Monetary Authority as well. We put in place a licensing regime. And companies that go through that licensing regime shoul d be supported by all sides of this House. Now, Mr. Speaker , let me come to my close, because a lot has been said today from that side. But a lot has been said today from this side. And what you have heard, Mr. Speaker , from this side are persons who understand that this Throne Speech represents the collective vision of this party, it represents the colOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 85
Bermuda House of Assembly lective vision of this Government, it represents the collective vision and voice of the people who voted for us, and many of the initiatives that are laid out inside of this Throne Speech come exactly from our platform. We accomplished many initiatives last year that we set out to do in our Throne Speech, and we will accomplish many initiatives this year that we set out in our Throne Speech. We will grow the economy. We will diversify the economy. And we will take on the forces that are holding us back. So when I hear about retail sales falling, I have to question whether or not the Members oppo-site knock on the doors of their constituents, because if they do they will know precisely what they are saying: My mortgage payments are going up and, ther efore, I have less to spend. That is a plain and simple fact. We have to tackle that problem. And whether it is the stamp duty change which we will make, or our other items which we may do, such as financial conduct, to make sure that we have the power to regulate certain rates that are charged inside the economy, I sincerely hope that the representatives of the past will be on the side of the people. They will have the time and opportunity to put their vote where their mouth is. We will find out if they really want to stand up for a better and fairer Bermuda. That is what we will see. So, Mr. Speaker , the Throne Speech has been read. We have debated this item today. We have a very ambitious agenda. I am certain that this Government will continue to deliver the legislation that it has promised to build that better and fairer Berm uda. And I look forward to making sure that not only will we be held accountable to the peopl e who voted for us, but I will also ensure that the words that have come from the Opposition may be matched with votes inside this House in support of this Government’s agenda to build a better and fairer Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
[Desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 10. Honourable Member . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker , I appreciate that. Mr. Speaker , I will start out by saying that I was pleased to hear some …
Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 10. Honourable Member .
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker , I appreciate that. Mr. Speaker , I will start out by saying that I was pleased to hear some of the things that the Honourable Premier said just a few moments ago. One thing that struck me, Mr. Speaker , was the comments that the Honourable Premier made about some people when they see regulation, they run from it. And I am wondering if the Premier might be referring to the company, Binance, which seems to have set up in another country. Mr. Speaker , I am not surprised at the vim and vigour of the Premier here tonight on a number of reasons, because that is his job—to defend the Throne Speech, as some of his — Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —colleagues tried to do today. Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI will take your point of order. Yes? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , the understanding which I have inside of the rules of this House is that a mover of a motion, he is the last person to speak. The last person . . . …
I will take your point of order. Yes?
POINT OF ORDER
Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , the understanding which I have inside of the rules of this House is that a mover of a motion, he is the last person to speak. The last person . . . we gave the opportunity for Members to stand up, they did not. Last week we moved a m otion . . . I moved a motion last week for the consider ation of the Throne Speech, and that motion was moved last week properly as per the Standing Orders of the House, Mr. Speaker . So the speeches . . . with my respectful submission, are out of order.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Deputy got up and moved us into it this morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , with respect, if I may, the motion was moved last week. The statement that was read this morning was not the motion which we ar e debating. The motion was moved last …
The Deputy got up and moved us into it this morning. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , with respect, if I may, the motion was moved last week. The statement that was read this morning was not the motion which we ar e debating. The motion was moved last week, Mr. Speaker , on the Order Paper to set down the debate, as is always done. The motion was not moved today, Mr. Speaker .
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHold on one minute. [Pause] SPEAKER’S RULING [Standing Order 19(9)]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, I thank you for the indulgence. We have had quite a discussion back and forth in regard to this. We have pulled out the Minutes and we are going by the wording of the Minutes and what was read last week in comparison with what we read this morning …
Members, I thank you for the indulgence. We have had quite a discussion back and forth in regard to this. We have pulled out the Minutes and we are going by the wording of the Minutes and what was read last week in comparison with what we read this morning and it . . . I am going to read it out for you for the clarity of all. Last week when the House returned from the Cabinet grounds, where the Speech was read, the Premier moved that Standing Orders 14 and 12 be suspended to enable him to move a motion relating to 86 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly His Excellency the Governor’s Speech from the Throne, which was agreed. The Premier moved “that the Speech with which His Excellency the Governor was pleased to present to open” [and] on and on. But it moved . . . what I am getting at was that the motion was moved at that time. And what the Deputy did this morning was simply to . . . the word of thanks from the Chamber to the Governor for reading the Speech and the motion then proceeded as having been opened last week. So the fact that the Premier rose to his feet and spoke as the person who had actually opened the motion does bring the motion to a close. I believe before he rose to his feet . . . I was out of the Chamber, but the Deputy did indicate that there was a pause to see if any other Member wished to get to their feet and there was . . . no one else rose. And the Premier rose to his feet and took the opportunity to speak, which will close the debate. So, having said that, we have now completed the debate on the Throne Speech for this year, and that brings that matter to a close. We will continue with whatever is on the Order Paper at this point. Mr. Premier, the other items on the Order P aper for today . . . I am going to make the assumption that t hey are all being carried over.
Hon. E. David Burt: Yes.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWith that, would you like to make the next motion? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I move that this Honourabl e House do now adjourn until Friday, November 23rd.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Does any Member wish to speak to that? Mr. Famous? OBA/ UBP AND CREDIBILITY
Mr. Christopher FamousGood day, Mr. Speaker . I will be very brief. You do not . . . do not run yet. Mr. Speaker , we heard somebody talking about Wakanda today —
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes, it is true.
Mr. Christopher FamousWe heard about Game of Thrones . Let us talk about People’s Court . Does anybody remember People’s Court ? Mr. Speaker , when somebody i s on trial the first thing that has to be established is credibility. So let us talk about credibility. The definition of credibility: “The …
We heard about Game of Thrones . Let us talk about People’s Court . Does anybody remember People’s Court ? Mr. Speaker , when somebody i s on trial the first thing that has to be established is credibility. So let us talk about credibility. The definition of credibility: “The quality of being believable or worthy of trust. E xample: After all those lies, his credibility was at a low ebb”—www.dictionary.com. Allow me read a line from the Royal Gazette , September 24, 2018, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , headlines —exhibit A. “OBA must sever all links with UBP.” Hmmm. “The One Bermuda Alliance has to dump MPs inherited from the old United Bermuda Party or die, its former chai rman”(now Senate Leader, Mr. Nick Kempe)“warned yesterday.” So let us look around the room and who do we see? MP Cole Simons —UBP, correct? MP Patricia Gordon- Pamplin—UBP, correct? MP Michael Dunkley —UBP. Not Ben Smith, he is not UBP. MP Trevor Moniz —UBP. MP Jeanne Atherden—UBP. That is five so far. Anyone else? Let us read something from Michael Dunkley himself and inacc urate by the Royal Gazette since Cole Simons, Pat Gordon- Pamplin, Susan Jackson, and Scott Pearman are all former UBP. That is from Dunkley, mate. No denials? Any point of order? No. [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Scott PearmanYes, just for the benefit of the record, because I did just say to Mr. Famous that that is incorrect, but he said, No poi nt of order, no denial? No, Mr. Famous. That was a denial; and this is my point of order.
Mr. Christopher FamousMr. Speaker , the things we find on social media. This is from Dunkley.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Honourable Member . . . the Honourable Member .
Mr. Christopher FamousSorry. Honourable Member Dunkley, my apologies. So, according to my math there are seven out of eleven OBA MPs who are actually UBP. Let us do the math. Sixty -five per cent of the OBA is really the UBP. Any denials? No. So let us go to the statement from …
Sorry. Honourable Member Dunkley, my apologies. So, according to my math there are seven out of eleven OBA MPs who are actually UBP. Let us do the math. Sixty -five per cent of the OBA is really the UBP. Any denials? No. So let us go to the statement from Oct ober 11 th—
B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe will take . . . Member, will you yield for a point of order?
Mr. Christopher FamousI would be like Maxine W aters, but go ahead. The Spea ker: You will yield. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Just for a matter of clarity —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Patricia J . Gordon -Pamplin: The UBP bec ame defunct, and I am an OBA member and was elected as an OBA member. If w e are talki ng about people who wer e UBP, may be the Honourabl e Member can conti nue and …
Yes? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Patricia J . Gordon -Pamplin: The UBP bec ame defunct, and I am an OBA member and was elected as an OBA member. If w e are talki ng about people who wer e UBP, may be the Honourabl e Member can conti nue and talk about thos e peopl e who us ed to sit on the UBP benches who now sit on their benches.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher FamousOkay. This is about . . . this is a statement from [the Royal Gazette October 11th, [2018] Mr. Speaker , “This is about us changing course.” (Opposition Leader Craig Cannonier.) Now, the question is how can you change course if 65 per cent of your caucus is UBP? It …
Okay. This is about . . . this is a statement from [the Royal Gazette October 11th, [2018] Mr. Speaker , “This is about us changing course.” (Opposition Leader Craig Cannonier.) Now, the question is how can you change course if 65 per cent of your caucus is UBP? It is not us saying the OBA has to get rid of the UBP, it is the OBA saying, Get rid of the UBP. [ Laughter]
Mr. Christopher FamousBut they cannot do it because there would only be four of you left. Let us go a little further. Headlines —Exhibit B . . . C, sorry. “In defence of Fahy, my friend” (Craig Cannonier) . . . Oh, sorry, the Honourable Michael Fahy. [ Royal Gazette 4 October …
Mr. Christopher FamousOh, he petitioned the Government to be honourable. But anyway, let me speak to the Speaker. Headlines —“He” (Michael Fahy) “was indeed a ‘chief architect’ of the BDA. Frankly, without him, the BDA would not have been.” As we all know, the BDA was the splinter group that pretended they …
Oh, he petitioned the Government to be honourable. But anyway, let me speak to the Speaker. Headlines —“He” (Michael Fahy) “was indeed a ‘chief architect’ of the BDA. Frankly, without him, the BDA would not have been.” As we all know, the BDA was the splinter group that pretended they did not like the UBP and then they got back together and they joined . . . anyway. Had he resigned . . . he had r esigned a guaranteed post in the Senate under the UBP. So, the Honourable Michael Fahy was what? UBP as well, right? [ Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher FamousCurio user and curiouser. I quote from the Honourable Craig Cannonier, “Doing a deal with the UBP meant we lost good people who could not bring themselves to join UBP members. ” But you did. All right. Finally . . . would you like to point -of-order me? The Spe …
Mr. Christopher FamousAll right. My last piece, Mr. Speaker , Exhibit D —not “C” for Canada. Anyway — [Crosstalk and laughter ]
Mr. Christopher FamousHeadlines —[Royal G azette ], “The old guard must go” from Opposition Senate Leader Nick Kempe. “I believe now, as I did then, that the only way” (the only way) “ for the One Berm uda Alliance to survive is for it to thank and exit ” (that means get …
Headlines —[Royal G azette ], “The old guard must go” from Opposition Senate Leader Nick Kempe. “I believe now, as I did then, that the only way” (the only way) “ for the One Berm uda Alliance to survive is for it to thank and exit ” (that means get rid of) “the senior politicians inherited when the Bermuda Democratic Alliance” (you know, the BDA formed by Michael Fahy) “and the United Bermuda Party merged some eight years ago. ”—Nick Kempe, September 24, 2018. S o let us go back to that word “credibility.” How can you claim credibility when your Opposition Senate Leader has promised to get rid of the UBP, but you have still got them? Hmmm. Is that because you cannot get rid of these people? I do not know.
Mr. Christopher FamousI do not know. Why doesn’t he get rid of them? But let us say we go back to the word “credibility.” You cannot have credibility in anything you say when the first things you are saying out of the gate are proven to be false. Anything you say after …
I do not know. Why doesn’t he get rid of them? But let us say we go back to the word “credibility.” You cannot have credibility in anything you say when the first things you are saying out of the gate are proven to be false. Anything you say after that cannot be taken for real, just like the Opposition Throne Speech Reply. You have no credibility as a party —none. Why? Because you all say, We have got to get rid of the UBP, but you keep the UBP. I do not . . . no one figures that out. Anyway, back to the definition of “credibility: the quality of being believable or worthy of trust. After 88 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly all those lies ”—let me repeat , “after all those lies his credibility was at a low ebb.” —www.dict ionary.com. I now rest my case, Mr. Speaker . Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member . . . we recognise the Member from —
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. MembersOoh, ooh.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members! The Member from constit uency 10 has the floor. PLP CABINET SHUFFLE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I appreciate the excitement when I stand to speak. Mr. Speaker , a couple of weeks ago when the Honourable Premier announced his Cabinet shuffle— his second …
Members, Members! The Member from constit uency 10 has the floor.
PLP CABINET SHUFFLE
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I appreciate the excitement when I stand to speak. Mr. Speaker , a couple of weeks ago when the Honourable Premier announced his Cabinet shuffle— his second Cabinet shuffle in 16 months of being the Government —he went to great lengths to announce that his Cabinet had actually shrunk from 11 to 10 ministries. And I think we all applaud that, Mr. Speaker. I think we all applaud the need, when we are a debtor government, to do everything we can to eff iciently reduce the size of operating government. But in the same breath, Mr. Speaker , without even mentioning it . . . what the Honourable Premier did not say is that he actually reduced the size of Cab-inet ministries, but increased the size of Cabinet.
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Without even saying it . . . and I hear an Honourable Member say, We thought we discussed it already? Well, we have not been in the House to discuss it, but we are here today. So what he did, he reduced the size of the government ministries, which means little because you still have the same budgets to run the ministries, Mr. Speaker . You have the same budgets, you have the same staff. And then, without even acknowledging it, other than a veiled reference to a Minister without Portfolio and a Minister in the Cabinet Office, he i ncreased the size of Cabinet, Mr. Speaker . Now, maybe there is some justification for a Minister without Portfolio, maybe there is some justif ication for a Minister in the Cabinet Office. But the Premier has not provided that. And what is interesting, Mr. Speaker , because when the Premier was the O pposition Leader —actually, I think, Mr. Speaker , he was the Acting Opposition Leader at the time—he said in May of 2016: “Bermudians want leadership that is accountable and transparent, follows the rules and puts the interests of Bermudians first.” [ Royal G azette , 9 November 2018 Oh my, Mr. Speaker . Announce the second Cabinet shuffle in 16 months, but forgets to announce openly that there are two Ministers who have respon-sibility —we are not sure what for, Mr. Speaker —very few staff to help them carry out their responsibility and it increases the size of the Cabinet. Now, Mr. Speaker , I am sure there has to be some justification. I am sure it cannot be, Mr. Speaker, because there is a large Backbench and he does not want to send more Ministers —ex-Ministers —to the Backbench to have people who might exercise some disquiet there because, after all, the Backbench, Mr. Speaker , has been very vocal in supporting the Government’s initiatives in the first 16 months. And while I might not have always support ed or appreciated the comments they made, there is no doubt there are members of the Backbench who deserve to look into the Cabinet changes rather than a Minister who was fired or resigned brought back in because, perhaps, a payment was made and he was happy again, Mr. Speaker . [Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: There are Backbenchers, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers! Thank you. I did not —
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberMr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI did not acknowledge anybody. I have not acknowledged anybody, so nobody should be on their feet. Let us keep it in order, and let us not make accusations. Let us just keep it above board. You can continue speaking. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerBut keep it clean. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . So Mr. Speaker , many people who have talked to me as I have canvassed and as I have walked the streets, just like everyone in this House does, wonder why there is a larger Cabinet now. …
But keep it clean.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . So Mr. Speaker , many people who have talked to me as I have canvassed and as I have walked the streets, just like everyone in this House does, wonder why there is a larger Cabinet now. And they wonder why two individuals have a reasonable size cheque by anybody’s circumstances without si gOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 89
Bermuda House of Assembly nifica nt responsibility, especially, Mr. Speaker , [since] we are going to run a deficit again this year. I was pleased to see earlier in the day that the Premier talked about that we would be paying off some of the debt next year. But this year we are not paying it off. Now, could it be because there is so much work to be done that we need a larger Cabinet? The Premier has not justified that. Could it be that there are challenges with getting work done and he needs more people with all hands on deck to do things like that? But then the question would have to asked, Why the shuffle? Why would those two Ministers . . . when you have a Backbench that is very strong and—
Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker —
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker —
Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of order.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Wayne Caines: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. The Premier, on more than one occasion, gave reasons, rationales why he made the decisions that he has made. He did that in the public domain, and he also …
I will take your point of order.
POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Hon. Wayne Caines: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. The Premier, on more than one occasion, gave reasons, rationales why he made the decisions that he has made. He did that in the public domain, and he also did that in the media acknow ledging and setting out the reasons —precept upon precept —why he made the changes to the Cabinet. And it . . . and, Mr. Speaker , he also set out the new roles and responsibilit ies for each Minister in a public document that has been disseminated across these beloved isles, Mr. Speaker . Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you for that interjection, Mr. Speaker . But that is just another Minister, y ou know, trying to support the Premier. I certainly have not heard that. Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of order, Mr. Speaker . Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker , …
Thank you.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you for that interjection, Mr. Speaker . But that is just another Minister, y ou know, trying to support the Premier. I certainly have not heard that.
Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker , members of the community — Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAhh . . . Members! Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of order, Mr. Speaker . [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Hon. Wayne Caines: That Member is [imputing] i mproper motive. He cannot speak or make reference to anything to do with my state of mind. So he cannot make that reference, Mr. Speaker . Thank you very much. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne Caines: …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Members, let us continue. His point that he was making was basically a response to your question that you wanted clarification. The Premier did clarify what the roles of his Cabinet would be when he did the shuffle. That part was in the public knowledge. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: …
Okay. Members, let us continue. His point that he was making was basically a response to your question that you wanted clarification. The Premier did clarify what the roles of his Cabinet would be when he did the shuffle. That part was in the public knowledge.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker , and if that is what the Honourable Member and the Premier believe, all I am saying now, at this time, Mr. Speaker , is that it is very clear by the questions that have been asked of me that a lot of people still do not understand the need for that. And let’s be real — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: It’s not in the Royal G azette. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Let’s be real. And you know, I hear the Honourable Education Minister talk about, Not in the ‘Royal Gazette.’ Who is talking about the Royal Gazette here tonight? I am talking about serious government business where we have the Premier —with all joy —announcing the size of Government ministries shrinking, but at the same time increases Cabinet. Mr. Speaker , that is like me going on a diet all week and I have one more night before I get to my Sunday “greaz” with my family —my codfish and pot atoes where I am going to ring down on everything— but on Friday night I go out, I order a salad, just cut me a little bit of protein, and just put a little bit of vinegar dressing on it, and then when dessert comes I take two pieces of cheesecake and six cookies.
[Laughter] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I just . . . I just shot the load, Mr. Speaker . All the good I had done all week, I just blew it out. And so, Mr. Speaker , in my humble view, supported by dozens of peopl e I speak to, there is little justification for a Minister without Portfolio and a Minister in the Cabinet Office. And nothing against the 90 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly two gentlemen. I have respect for them and their abi lity to want to serve and their desire to do the best for Bermuda, Mr. Speaker . But both of those gentlemen were removed from ministries and put in significantly reduced roles. If you want to be real, like my honour able colleague from another constituency said— Hon. Wayne Caines: Point, point, point of —
Hon. Michael H . Dunkley: —they were demoted.
Hon. Wayne Caines: —point of —
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: They were demoted.
Hon. Wayne Caines: Point of order.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Wayne Caines: That Member is misleading the House.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister, Minister, we need not go back and forth. That is his opinion. He is expressing his opinion. If you want to present a different one afterwards, do it when he finishes. You can come to your feet. Because you have expressed that the Prem ier was clear on the …
Minister, Minister, we need not go back and forth. That is his opinion. He is expressing his opinion. If you want to present a different one afterwards, do it when he finishes. You can come to your feet. Because you have expressed that the Prem ier was clear on the roles —we understood that —I understood that. I believe he is expressing an opinion. As long as he is not using unparliamentary language, as long as he is not being . . . what is the word I am looking for? . . . impugning . . . personal attacks against the Premier, I am going to allow him to continue. You made the point that you feel that the Premier clarified the roles specifically and on point as to what those ministers will be doing. It is in the public domain, and I agree it is in t he public domain. He is expressing an opinion. You can get up afterwards and clarify that with a better opinion afterwards.
Hon. Wayne Caines: I am guided, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I appreciate that it is sensitive for some Government Members because while at one point they have to defend the Premier and at the other point Backbenchers, who believe they are well - qualified to sit in …
Okay.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I appreciate that it is sensitive for some Government Members because while at one point they have to defend the Premier and at the other point Backbenchers, who believe they are well - qualified to sit in Cabinet do not even get a look in while two people hav e significantly slashed respons ibilities. Now, Mr. Speaker , if the Government believes that those positions are justified, well, that is good for them. I cannot see that in this time when we are trying to reduce costs, as the Premier said, to get more money circulating in our community, and we are trying to become more efficient and taxes have increased under this Government . . . and there is no doubt, Mr. Speaker , that taxes have increased under this Government. They brag about extra revenue, but that is because taxes have been raised. So there is no doubt. If you do not want to increase costs, why are you creating a larger Cabinet, Mr. Speaker ? And you know what? Members on this side will watch very closely what the Cabinet does, be-cause I recall in the past when there have been mini sters without portfolios who have not lasted long. There has been great criticism for them. And the same reasons were given for those ministers without portfolios, but not justified by the Opposition (at that time the PLP). And the very person who now has the responsibility for appointment of a Cabinet says in May of 2016 that we have to be open, transparent and accountable with these Cabinet changes. And the shoe is on the other foot and, all of sudden, what the Hon-ourable Pr emier said has gone out the door, Mr. Speaker . Now, Mr. Speaker , I know that the Premier has a difficult job. I know that the Premier wants to be a taskmaster to get things done. That is what all Premiers want. But it cannot be justified, in my humble opinion, Mr. Speaker , to have two positions signif icantly reduced but have two Cabinet Ministers sitting there when there is a Backbench that is chomping at the bit and waiting to get into those seats who have not been offered the opportunity.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Now, Mr. Speaker —of course! I am advocating for what is right. And the Honourable Member Mr. Famous says, from constit uency 11, advocating for him? No. [Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speak er.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members, Members! Members. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker .
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYou had the chance to run the country. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, I did not have the chance to run the country. W e were elected to run the country! It is not a chance! [Inaudible interjection] Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 91 Bermuda House of Assembly …
You had the chance to run the country. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, I did not have the chance to run the country. W e were elected to run the country! It is not a chance!
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Do you know what a “chance” is, Honourable Member ?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members, Members! [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, he just—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerDirect your conversation— Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker , I hear them say we had a chance.
The SpeakerThe Speaker—this way. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker , you know what? If you want chance, go to Vegas! [Inaudible interjection and laughter ] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: If you want a chance, go to Vegas, Mr. Speaker . When you are elected you have to lead for the people. …
—this way.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker , you know what? If you want chance, go to Vegas! [Inaudible interjection and laughter ] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: If you want a chance, go to Vegas, Mr. Speaker . When you are elected you have to lead for the people. It is not a chance. You are elected. This Government was elected. But the decision to increase the size of Cabinet goes against the decision to reduce the Government ministries. It means nothing. It is wi ndow dressing. It is cheating on the diet that I have, Mr. Speaker . It is cheating on the diet, and ther e is no justification for it. So, while people have stopped me and made up ridiculous reasons why the Honourable Premier would keep them there . . . and I push back on, and I am not going to repeat them tonight because they have been out there in the publ ic domain. But people make up these ridiculous reasons why he has done it. You have to question it. You cannot [help but] question those changes . . . being there to [receive] $150,000 a year. If the shoe was on the other foot, and Craig Cannonier was the Premier and he did it, he would be castigated! He would be castigated. [When I] was the Premier . . . I was castigated for making Cabinet changes. I was castigated for it.
[Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And now here we are.
[Inaudib le interjections ]
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: We announce, Mr. Speaker, we are reducing Government ministries — [Inaudible interjection] The Speaker: Members, Members!
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: —we are reducing Government ministries —which means nothing! You have the same civil servants, the same budget, and you have got two Ministers that every day are looking for direction. I would not be surprised if they are the most comfortable Ministers we have ever had in the history of Bermuda politics because they do not have to worry about the day -to-day stuff that the Minister of National Security might have to worry about, or the new Mini ster of Social Rehabilitation and other parts of the mi nistries that have changed. Or Minister Burch, who has to worry about infr astructure that is falling apart. They are the two Ministers who sleep so well at night. In fact, when they go to Cabinet they probably do not have to be worried about being grilled over the coals by their colleagues because they do not have any papers.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: They do not have any papers. And the Honourable Minister who was fired or resigned and now is back again . . . and I wondered, I wondered why the—
[Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I wondered why his colleagues — [Inaudible interjections ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members! [Gavel] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It must be the shortest disappearance from Cabinet in the history of this country, Mr. Speaker .
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberOh, no! Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Fired in February, but back in October. Ooh! That is pretty quick, Mr. Speaker. But Mr. Speaker , the governance of this country is serious business. And now we have a Premier who touts transparency and accountability, but he has got two minister s …
Oh, no!
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Fired in February, but back in October. Ooh! That is pretty quick, Mr. Speaker. But Mr. Speaker , the governance of this country is serious business. And now we have a Premier who touts transparency and accountability, but he has got two minister s he cannot be transparent and accountable about. And we will be watching what they do because this is a bad step, Mr. Speaker . Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. I recognise the Honourable Member from the East End, Mr. Swan, from constituency 2. You have the floor. 92 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanMr. Speaker , I recognised that earlier the Honourable Member did not have the opportunity to speak when he elected to remain in his seat. And I noticed that he jumped to his feet on the motion to adjourn with two Members that he was r eferring to absent. But, …
Mr. Speaker , I recognised that earlier the Honourable Member did not have the opportunity to speak when he elected to remain in his seat. And I noticed that he jumped to his feet on the motion to adjourn with two Members that he was r eferring to absent. But, Mr. Speaker , I just want to refer to the former Honourable Premier’s speech as one of the greatest divide- and-conquer speeches in Bermuda’s political history. Because, Mr. Speaker , one would not have thought that Bermuda was in a tizzy under his leadership, that disquiet amongst people in this coun-try reached an all -time high. And, as a consequence, Mr. Speaker , in all the years that I have been around politics in Bermuda, especially since the first time I stood for office in 1983, the amount of disquiet that was displayed in Bermuda repeatedly, with numerous instances, was unprecedented. It was 1982 rolled up into four repeated years, starting from when that Honourable Member became t he leader of the country in a most bizarre and unprecedented way.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberNo! [Inaudible interjections] [Gavel]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanIt really, really, really has not. And it is most, most, most unfortunate. And so my honourable colleague who opened up the motion to adjourn and alluded to how things relate in that r egard, was on a very good wicket. But let me just say that there is not …
It really, really, really has not. And it is most, most, most unfortunate. And so my honourable colleague who opened up the motion to adjourn and alluded to how things relate in that r egard, was on a very good wicket. But let me just say that there is not anyone in the OBA who could advocate on behalf of the PLP Backbench. That would be the epitome of disingenuous advocacy, and we would not have it. And I just want to say this: One thing in 16 months is clear — there has been a settling down of Bermuda. Whilst it might not get the amount of ink that I believe it deserves in the Bermuda sphere, it is very evident. And certainly, as was mentioned on many occasions —even today, without reflection—the challenge that our young Premier has is a very difficult one and one which is being met, I think, in a very good way and in a very competent way. And in his . . . and the Member that spoke . . . the OBA Member, Mr. Dunkley, would have you believe that his prerogative to appoint the maximum amount of Cabinet ministers within his jurisdiction was illegal or untoward, or not within the Bermuda framework of the Constitution, or had not been done by other Premiers who sat as UBP for many years, exercising their wisdom. But such is one who held that office who would want peopl e to act in a more bipartisan way who is not acting in a way that a statesman should . . . and that is his prerogative. But let me tell you that the challenges that the Premier has, in his wisdom . . . and I cannot speak for him, but I can certainly in my former capacities of constitutional responsibility have a look to see that there are many things that need to be addressed and there are many balls that have to be juggled simultaneously in Bermuda. And if in his wisdom he sees the wisdom to take those 12 constit utional appointments, plus the one mandatory one in the Senate, and use them all, then he should be given the opportunity to be able to see what the fulfilment of that will be. But the crystal ball pundits who would have you think that, Listen, you know, look at what we did with America’s Cup and how wonderful it is. Being a professional athlete by trade, I appreciate sports tourism. But let us not forget that it was $100 million of taxpayer money at the expense of the needy in Ber-muda—who were many —that caused . . . who had to take the backseat while the former Government did what? Rolled the very dice that they are trying to accuse our Premier of doing! They rolled the dice on America’s Cup, and it did not come up trump for them because the team they backed lost and they took it way down under.
[Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanAnd so Bermuda lost as a consequence on the gamble of the Government that Team Oracle would win. That is a gamble. It is a gamble because it did not sustain itself economically. [Inaudible interjections ]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanIt did not sustain itself economically. And yes . . . and yes, the Honourable Opposition Leader throws a dart about it . . . Grand Atlantic. But in your four years of Government we still have to come back and pick up, because you did nothing with it in …
It did not sustain itself economically. And yes . . . and yes, the Honourable Opposition Leader throws a dart about it . . . Grand Atlantic. But in your four years of Government we still have to come back and pick up, because you did nothing with it in order to give it sustainability beyond the period of an election. That is the short -sightedness of yesterday’s thinking that our Honourable Premier speaks of often, how looking to the future versus pr otecting the past legacy of Bermuda. Your protectionist mind- set is standing in your own way. And that is what we speak of on this side of the House. On this side of the House that starts right here at Boundary Lane . . . Boundary Lane in my constituency —
[Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanThere is Boundary Lane right here! Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 93 Bermuda House of Assembly So when the Premier speaks for that side, he is speaking of it from the constituency divide! And you know, if we have the opportunity of another byeelection, Robin Hood Corner is …
There is Boundary Lane right here! Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 93
Bermuda House of Assembly So when the Premier speaks for that side, he is speaking of it from the constituency divide! And you know, if we have the opportunity of another byeelection, Robin Hood Corner is going to see that we can spread the divide down a little further and move the boundary down a little bit further. Why? Because if your mind- set is still stuck in yesterday, it is going to manifest itself in what you do and how you act. And you cannot escape it. Bob Marley said, You can run away, but you can’t run away from yourselves. And it is showing i tself. It is showing itself in many ways. And it is showing itself in the speech from the former Leader of the OBA on the motion to adjourn. Trying an old and tried trick—divide us to try to conquer us. But it is not going to happen.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member . [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI now recognise the Minister of National Security. How is that ? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne Caines: I think we all thought we were going home and . . . and—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, yes. [Inaudible interjections ] OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP Hon. Wayne Caines: I just texted my wife to see if she can keep my corned beef and hash . . . if she can put that in the oven until I get home, Mr. Speaker . And so . …
Yes, yes.
[Inaudible interjections ]
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Hon. Wayne Caines: I just texted my wife to see if she can keep my corned beef and hash . . . if she can put that in the oven until I get home, Mr. Speaker . And so . . . and so when I reflect on the day’s discourse, we often take a really wide pendulum swing when we come to the motion to adjourn. Oftentimes we miss the opportunity for us to legitimately have the opportunity to bask in the good that we do and which we have done. So when we think of what has happened and what has transpired today, we must keep our bearing on due north. Oftentimes when you take on a position of leadership and you find yourself in a fray, you can become buffeted by things in your periphery. When you look at a horse and it is racing, it has on things that are called “blinders.” When the horse is going down the track, the reason why it has on the blinders is so it can stay transfixed on the end game. Today we have seen a Throne Speech that allows us to do that which we have promised the people that elected us —to make their lives better. Regardless of what they are saying about the size, we must keep in the back of our minds that we have to continue to work on behalf of the people in Bermuda. That is the only purpose why we are here. If you go through ev ery line —precept upon precept, every period, every comma in there—that is an agenda to make the l ives of the people that sit in their living rooms and have their ears compressed to the radio in their taxis . . . they want their lives to be made better. And that was the purpose of this Throne Speech. No matter if you are a Backbencher, whether you are the Whip, or whether you are a Member of Parliament; we must, and will, remain one team with one leader. This country is depending on it, just like they are depending on a viable Opposition. We have a responsibility. The Opposition Member Dunkley sits in that seat because he is no longer leading his party. Do not be distracted by his malaise and his irrelevance. We have a responsibility to lead this country and lead the people of Bermuda. And our job is to make sure that we do it with honour, to make sure that we do it [with] integrity, that we hold ourselves accountable. And that is what we settled to do, that is what this plan artic ulates, and that is what we will give and do for the people of Bermuda.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. I now recognise Minister Simmons. Minister? OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I have to agree with my colleague who took his seat. I will not spend too much time on the irrel evant. But I will say this …
Thank you, Minister. I now recognise Minister Simmons. Minister?
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Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I have to agree with my colleague who took his seat. I will not spend too much time on the irrel evant. But I will say this to the Honourable Member : when I left you, I was but a student. Now I am the master. And you will get to see my mastery like you saw in 2017 and 2014 and you will continue—I hope you are always there—because there is nothing better than beating you. So Mr. Speaker , this Sunday —
[Laughter and crosstalk ]
Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: This Sunday . . . Sunday . . . Sunday represents a very special occasion, Mr. Speaker . It is the four -year anniversary of my election to represent the great people of Sandys South, constituency 33.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWhen is it? Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: November 18 th, four years. Time flies when you are having fun. So, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjection] 94 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Ber muda House of Assembly Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: No, it was not the first time. Go back …
When is it? Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: November 18 th, four years. Time flies when you are having fun. So, Mr. Speaker —
[Inaudible interjection]
94 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Ber muda House of Assembly Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: No, it was not the first time. Go back to 2007, my hand was on that trigger, too. But, Mr. . . . Mr.— [Inaudible interjection] Ho n. Jamahl S. Simmons: Everybody is beating me up, so— [Laught er] Ho n. Jamahl S. Simmons: Everybody is . . . he is taking licks for everybody. He is lucky to be here. If Anthony . . . who is the guy w ho ran against him? If Dr. Peets had four more days. He would be sitting here [instead], and he would be back milking cows. But Mr. Speaker, I want to take things to a different level. And I think that each of us . . . you know, each of us . . . well after, you know, I was taught [that] after you cause improvement you then must comfort. After licks comes the elevation. But four years ago on this Sunday I was honoured to return to this House to serve the people of Sandys South. And Mr. Speaker, it has been . . . I think that so many people take for granted the honour which it is to sit in this Chamber, the honour which it is to be the voice of the people who sent you here, to represent a community that I have that ranges from White Hill to Wreck Hill. Wrec k Hill, where my ancestor, the first slave brought to Bermuda, served as a slave to the Burrows family. To have one of their descendants rise to represent that constituency . . . that is something remarkable. A woman brought to this country from Africa, 14 years old, and you can look and follow the family tree of all the Simmons’ that came from this one tree. And when you look at this constituency and look at the history and the way things have gone— everything from Somerset Bridge to Scaur Hill to Fort Scaur, you name it —it is historical and it is a pleasure and an honour to serve. And Mr. Speaker , when we serve we must never forget who sent us here. And we have an opportunity as a Government to do something great. We have an opportunity to fulfil the legac y, not just of that woman who was brought in chains to Bermuda to serve as a slave, but also for our forebears, our polit ical forebears, who strived in Opposition for 30 years, who strived in Opposition at a time when it was not fun to be PLP, especially in Opposition, facing your mortgage being pulled, your jobs being threatened, your family being politically intimidated. But we stuck to the wicket and we have been given an opportunity to transform this country; not to be holders and tillers of the status quo, but to transform this country. And as we look to transform this country, we have to remember why we are here. We are here for the woman who was brought here in chains. We are here for the people who fought for years, going into election after election, sometimes with no hope of even having a chance to win. Can you imagine that, Mr. Speaker? I know you served a little time in Opposition and you know what it was like. But you know, there were elections where we were not winning. But what a difference time makes, and what a difference we will make, Mr. Speaker. Because when I hear words such as, Taking on the forces that keep your salar ies low, your opportunity is non- existent, and your chances to have a decent life, that speaks to me. That speaks to me of why I am here. And it is a r eminder of why I serve with the colleagues I serve with. We are at war with the status quo. We are at war with the forces that want to keep things the way they are because it makes them happy and because they have the power to pick who succeeds and who fails. That is what we are here for —to upend the apple cart and make sure everybody gets a bite of those apples, not just a few, not just the elite, not just the privileged. Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Th e Speaker: Thank you, Honourable Minister. Hearing from the Cabinet tonight, eh? Minister of Education, you can have the floor now. OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, yes, we were going to perform a duet. Th e Speaker: If both of you sit down at the same time, you can speak at the same time, how is that? Ho n. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, we have heard many people speak tonight. And I think Berm uda can see that there are som e passions that go through here, that flow through the many persons that stand up. And we all want to see Bermuda succeed. The simple fact is that there are differing philosophies. Mr. Speaker , when I listened to the former [Premier] from that side stand up and speak it struck me that . . . the audacity to try and give this Premier — the Premier of the people—advice on his Cabinet was coming from a Member of this House that ascended under a cloud of darkness to the position of Premier. A Member who has never won an election as the leader of a political party, who has lost two general elections, who has lost three bye- elections, and screwed up a referendum. He just cannot get anything right. But still he feels he has the temerity (if I borrow a word from my honourable colleague that stands right across from me) to tell us how we should run our Cabinet? How dare he!
B ermuda House of Assembly This Government is doing the things that need to be done for the people that need them the most, Mr. Speaker. All I keep hearing from that side is, We want respect for what we did. Mr. Speaker, if you had the respect for what you did, you would not be in Opposition with a r esounding loss last July. That is a simple fact. So the electorate voted on what they thought about your Government. So Mr. Spe aker, when governments are put in place they are put in place to govern. That is what they are doing. If you are put in place to sit around and complain about why no one is paying attention to you, then you are doing something wrong, Mr. Speaker. I liken it to the old story about the guy who sits on the corner and says, I take care of my kids. Guess what, Mr. Speaker ? You are supposed to! When you are the Government you are supposed to govern. And if you do not govern, the electorate shows you what they think of you. And this is what has happened. So do not get up and stand and keep saying, Look at the great things we did, because if you did great things you would not be over on that side. It is a simple fact and it is a simple thing that we just need you t o get through your thick skulls that this is what we are going to be doing. We are going to be the Government. And you are going to sit over there. This Government has done things and will continue to do things to improve the lives of our people, and it is resonating. I am sorry. I am sorry that you do not see that it is resonating, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the last census report in 2016 showed that 51 per cent of our population have some sort of secondary, postsecondary education. But of those, 75 per cent of the non- Bermudians who reside here have postsecondary education, and just under 50 per cent of Bermudians do. We are doing things to ensure that those numbers improve. When we talk about giving grants to the Bermuda College so that people can attend college, when we talk about college promises to high school students so that they can attend college, these are things that the people want. When we talk about a national wor kforce development plan that talks about what industries are coming, that has buy -in from industry, that has buy-in from the Chamber of Commerce, that has buy - in from the companies downtown, that has buy -in from the construction companies and everybody else, that is what a plan is, Mr. Speaker. When I read earlier that they said, We will introduce . . . We are following in what the One Bermuda Alliance did before, that could not be further from the truth, because nothing existed before. I personally did not get a chance to talk about some of the things about education, but it shocks m e, Mr. Speaker. It absolutely shocks me [that] some of the things that are listed wit hin the document are already happening. But if we had a Shadow Minister who was a former Minister who actually knew what was going on within the depar tment, he would already know that. He would already know some of these things are already in train. Some of these things started under his watch and previous Ministers’ watch! What was it, four Ministers in four years? Those things were already in train. Yes, we are continuing some of them because they are good ideas. But do not stand up and say, This is what I would do, when it is already happening. The people do not want to hear that. The people do not want education to be the political football that it has been for years. And it will not be the political football under this system. We have a Board of Education. We have the former chair who sits in here. Guess what happens when the Board of Education actually does what they are supposed to do and they are allowed to do? They come up with things like Plan 2022, which was the remit of the Board, not the Department of E ducation, not the Ministry of Education. The Board did that because that is what they are empowered to do. This Government will empower the Board to do the things that they are supposed to do by putting the people in place that can do the things that need to be done. We will transform education in Bermuda. We will phase out middle schools in Bermuda, Mr. Speaker. This is what the electorate voted us in to do, and this is what we will do. We will improve education. We will improve our infrastructure, and we will put in a place that all of Bermuda can be proud of. We will have a system that works for Bermudian students that will prepare them for the university life t hat they wish to pursue. And within the Throne Speech, that was one of the questions. What are we doing?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Minister. Do not revisit. That debate is closed. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I am not going revisit that.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThat debate is closed. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I am not going to revisit that because that debate is closed.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou did not take the opportunity; let us not go back. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Well, Mr. Speaker, I will talk about some of the things that are happening. Berkeley Institute has APs [advanced plac ements]. CedarBridge Academy is producing more IGCSE [ International General Certificate of Secondary Education] …
You did not take the opportunity; let us not go back. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Well, Mr. Speaker, I will talk about some of the things that are happening. Berkeley Institute has APs [advanced plac ements]. CedarBridge Academy is producing more IGCSE [ International General Certificate of Secondary Education] exams. These are the things that we are doing to enable our students to be prepared. CedarBridge Academy is accredited by International High School Accreditation, something that is looking to be done across the system. These are things that have always been in place and been in place for several 96 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly years. I am surprised this is not known by Members who sit opposite. They have always been there. Bermuda College . . . this morning I was asked about what we are doing with the Caribbean. We have had an agreement with the University of the West I ndies since 2010. That has been in place. But w hen you have the pulse of the people, and you also pay atten-tion to what is going on around you, Mr. Speaker, these are the things that you can speak to, and these are the things that you can do and make better. But if you do not know what is going on, if you are not paying attention, if you are asleep at the wheel, you are spi nning your wheels. And, to reflect back on the last speaker who spoke from that side, you are in Cabinet wasting money because you are just not producing. You are getting, as that Honourable Member said, a fat pay cheque to do what? You are doing nothing, Mr. Speaker. But, Mr. Speaker, this Government is laser -like focused on doing the things that need to be done. We will make no apologies if the One Bermuda Alliance does not want to get on board, because if they get in the way, we will roll over them. They are either going to get rolled over or passed by. It is their choice. Stand in the way and get rolled over, or get out of the way. But we would prefer it if you got on board and allowed this Government to do the things that need to be done to improve the lives of our citizens. We do not come up here every week to just hear petty arguments coming from that side. We want to hear credible things coming from that side. And if there are ideas that are usable, ideas that are credible, they will be utilised, Mr. Speaker. But do not just come up here and talk for the sake of tal king. Do not just come up here and say things to rile up the . . . to throw red meat to supporters, things like, Look how many Cabinet Ministers are in Cabinet. That is just red meat, Mr. Speaker. All Ministers have a role. All Ministers are doing what needs to be done to ensure that this party delivers on their mandate to ensure a fairer and better Bermuda, Mr. Speak er. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you very much. Minister De Silva, would you like to take the floor now? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, sure, Mr. Speaker. Why not?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGo ahead. OBA’S ATT EMPT TO DIVIDE PLP Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Speaker, this has been an interesting motion to adjourn. And with your permission, Mr. Speaker, I can table this. This is an advert that the OBA used in 2012. And it is a nice, …
Go ahead. OBA’S ATT EMPT TO DIVIDE PLP Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Speaker, this has been an interesting motion to adjourn. And with your permission, Mr. Speaker, I can table this. This is an advert that the OBA used in 2012. And it is a nice, colourful advert with three of their candidates. And there is a picture of the Grand Atlantic, because we heard that mentioned a few times from the other side tonight, and how much it cost and how much of a pink elephant it is. One of their candidates, Mr. Raymond Charlton, said, Well, they are going to try to find a way of putting lipstick on a pig. Right? Nalton Brangman said, Do we need to see for the first time one collapse into the water because someone said, ‘Oops’? And then, of course, the Honourable Member who is still sitting in the House, the Honourable Sylvan Richards , said, I knew it was a disaster. Nothing good will come of it. And they have a picture of Grand Atlantic si tting on a cliff —sitting on a cliff, Mr. Speaker! Like, I mean, inches from the cliff. Okay? And you wonder why that particular piece of property . . . no one could . . . you know, they had National Trust on board. They had David Wingate on board. They had everybody and their mother and children on board to oppose that development. And you wonder why! Messing with the taxpayers’ money, that is all they were doing. Those places were built for the people of this country. And they started off today scaremongering and . . . Look, Mr. Speaker, that is what we are dealing with—the past.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberIt was good enough for America’s Cup guests. Hon. Z ane J. S. De Silva: Oh, it was good enough for America’s Cup participants! It certainly was.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberI guess they tried to sell it, too. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And they tried to sell it. [ Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, they did. Now, Mr. Speaker, you know, I have got to mention an old Bermuda saying. And it goes som …
I guess they tried to sell it, too. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And they tried to sell it. [ Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, they did. Now, Mr. Speaker, you know, I have got to mention an old Bermuda saying. And it goes som ething like this, You got some crust! [ Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You got some crust! Mr. Speaker, why do I say that? Well, the Honourable former Premier of the country, Michael Dunkley, got up and said a few things tonight that, quite frankly, shocked me. And I think the first thing he should do . . . he could do it tonight or do it next week. He should apologise to every Progressive Labour Pa rty backbencher in this House. What does he think? That they are stupid? Is he playing? He must do.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes, yes. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 97 Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, I tell you what. If he thinks he can divide and conquer this team, it will never happen. Never happen. Just because there was some dividing and conquering going …
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, I tell you what. If he thinks he can divide and conquer this team, it will never happen. Never happen. Just because there was some dividing and conquering going on over there, he feels it can come over here! No, no, Mr. Speaker. Ain’t going to work. Ain’t going to work! And then he says, The PLP Backbench are chomping at the bit! Now, this particular Honourable Member has been chomping at the bit since I have known him to be in the political arena! He chomps at that bit, and he is probably still chomping at the bit, since they chomped him out of the room. Now, Mr. Speaker, he asked the question, that same Honourable Member, Mr. Dunkley, you know, Why the shuffle? But let us break it down a little bit, Mr. Speaker, as one who has purchased a com-pany from time to time, with employees already in place, with businesses already in place, with equi pment already in place. Mr. Speaker, as a CEO, what does one do when one takes over a company? He starts looking at efficiencies. He starts looking at effectiveness. He starts, or she starts, turning over a few stones, starts pulling some things aside. And he starts putting people in place. You had a brand- new Premier with some brand- new Members of Parliament. And he chose a Cabinet. And he said, Well, let’s put them in place and see what happens. Now, to use a phrase from the fellow who used to sit on this si de of the House, the former Honourable Member Bob Richards, Let’s lift up the hood. Well, after you lift up the hood, you check out the spark plugs, you check out the alternator, you check the oil, you check the water. And you might have to make some adjus tments. So, our Premier, unlike any other Premier in our history, after a period of time, made some changes. So, let us not be . . . and you know what? You may find that in another year or two the Premier may make some more changes. You notice that not only did he make some changes with the personnel, but he did with the responsibilities, because he has had chance to look at the lay of the land, look at who he has around at the table, and say, Now, let me see what I can do. And he made the decisions that he feels are in the best interest of the people we serve. So, I do not have an issue with that, Mr. Speaker, at all. And certainly, that Honourable Member in particular should know very well what I am tal king about. The other interesting thing, Mr. Speaker, is this. I could tell you one thing for sure, because the Honourable Member said, Oh, well, I was fired. I was pushed out. I could tell you what, Mr. Speaker. I was not pushed out. But I will tell you what. He was pushed out.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes, he was. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, yes, sir. Oh, yeah. B ecause you get pushed out, you want to try to take ev erybody with you. [Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You see? Misery loves company. Yes, it does. Well, I could …
Yes, he was. [Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, yes, sir. Oh, yeah. B ecause you get pushed out, you want to try to take ev erybody with you.
[Laughter]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You see? Misery loves company. Yes, it does. Well, I could tel l you what. Those are two facts. Well, all I am going to say is that— [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I was not pushed out, Mr. Speaker. But we know that he was. And, you know, I will tell you something else. I will tell you something else. I was not paid to resign. And nobody gave me any cruise, either. I just walked out. That is all I am saying.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberAmen. Amen. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That is all I am saying, Mr. Speaker. Okay? And the other thing is t his. I think that Honourable Member would do himself justice by not trying to give our Premier advice. Because, obviously, he comes from a position of non- …
Amen. Amen.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That is all I am saying, Mr. Speaker. Okay? And the other thing is t his. I think that Honourable Member would do himself justice by not trying to give our Premier advice. Because, obviously, he comes from a position of non- authority to be giving anybody on this side, let alone our Premier, advice. Now, Mr. Speaker, the ot her thing he said, it might have been the shortest period for a Minister to resign and come back. Well, I think the Honourable Opposition Leader has got me on that by about a month. So, I think next time he had better do a little homework. Because I think you were eight months. I left at nine. Yes. I could be wrong; I could be wrong.
[Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, the deal must have been in there. But, Mr. Speaker, you know what? The thing is, like this advertisement by the OBA in 2012. You see, I remember the Honourable Member Sylvan Richards saying it a few times. When we were in O pposition and we would try to point things out, and we would make certain comments, he always used to say, Look. You know what? The international world is watching. The international world is watching. And then, I see our Premier, in particular, and our Mi nister Caines, in particular, trying to drum -up business for this country, new business, whether it be FinTech, whether it be somebody as solid as t he company called Arbitrade. And I read article after art icle, and people send me tweets, and tweets from the 98 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly former Premier Dunkley chastising these people from Arbitrade. Why? Why does he continue to do it? Does everybody in the OBA think the same as the Honourable Member Dunkley?
Mr. Scott PearmanNo. Everyone in Bermuda thinks that. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, they do?
Mr. Scott PearmanYes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, the Honourable Member from [constituency] 22 . . .
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberSo, he speaks for all Bermuda! [ Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member Pearman says, Everybody in Bermuda thinks that. You see, that is the mind- set.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberHe speaks for all Bermuda now. FINTECH AND ARBITRADE Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Notwithstanding that his company has made a boatload of money off some of these transactions, Mr. Speaker. Okay? A boatload of money. But I tell you what. You see the attitude and the comments from …
He speaks for all Bermuda now. FINTECH AND ARBITRADE Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Notwithstanding that his company has made a boatload of money off some of these transactions, Mr. Speaker. Okay? A boatload of money. But I tell you what. You see the attitude and the comments from that Honourable Member? Just like Honourable M ember Dunkley. Because I had the privilege of speaking to one of the principals this week, Mr. Speaker. And you know what? They are disappointed. This conversation was about you, Honourable Member, and you talking all the trash that you talk about them! Go ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I gave him some leash because I knew he would eventually get caught on it. Mr. Speaker, I never chastised Arbitrade. I asked questions, Mr. Speaker. And I asked the Honourable Member across the floor, What …
We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I gave him some leash because I knew he would eventually get caught on it. Mr. Speaker, I never chastised Arbitrade. I asked questions, Mr. Speaker. And I asked the Honourable Member across the floor, What was the name of the gentleman from Arbitrade to whom he spoke? And the reason why I did that was because the Prem-ier was asked those questions months ago and still has not answered them. I questioned the business —t he business operation—of Arbitrade. There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, Mr. Speaker, I even reached out directly to Arbitrade, and they did not want to engage. So, if we cannot ask questions in an appropriate way, Mr. Speaker, this country is finished. Finished!
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGo ahead. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, if I chastised you every day in the newspaper and tweeted every two minutes that you—you, Mr. Speaker — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Minister is known …
Go ahead. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, if I chastised you every day in the newspaper and tweeted every two minutes that you—you, Mr. Speaker — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Minister is known for stretching the truth. Every day in the newspaper ? Every day with tweets ? Come on, Mr. Speaker. He cannot even show one of those articles, not one of those tweets!
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. All right. All right. Okay. [ Crosstalk] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, Mr. Speaker! Oh, he just sa id I will not show him one. I will table one right here. And, in fact, let me read it for you.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberRead it! Read the whole thing. Read the whole thing. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, look . The press comments by Arbitrade raised more red flags than from a hurricane on South Shore Beach.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberRead the article! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That was one of his things, Mr. Speaker. But let me say this, because . . . How much time do I have left, Mr. Speaker? Hon. Michael H. Dunkl ey: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member should read the whole article. …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. The Minister has the floor. Let him continue. Let him continue. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. How m uch time do I have left? Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 99 Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You have got just about nine …
Okay. The Minister has the floor. Let him continue. Let him continue. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. How m uch time do I have left? Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 99
Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You have got just about nine minutes.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You see, Mr. Speaker, you see? You get Members like the Honourable Member Pearman and Honourable Member Dunkley as t hey pontificate wit hout any substance.
POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. He is misleading the House. It is his opinion that there is no substance. He should prove that.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, he will speak to his opinion. He will speak to his opinion. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, do we need any more proof? We have got a building that has been purchased by this company, vetted by the Bermuda Monetary Authority, the Registrar of Companies, been …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member“Tilt”? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So, do I need . . . Yeah, yeah, to the tilt . . . to the hilt. I mean, to the “hilt.” [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But, Mr. Speaker, he has got some crust! But, …
“Tilt”?
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So, do I need . . . Yeah, yeah, to the tilt . . . to the hilt. I mean, to the “hilt.” [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But, Mr. Speaker, he has got some crust! But, you know, we laugh. But it is very ser ious, Mr. Speaker, because I tell you what. The ow ners and principals of Arbitrade are ticked off. They are ticked off with a Member of Parliament who continues to go out and trash their good nam e. These people have made a commitment to this country. They have spent millions of dollars purchasing a building. The jobs will come. But, you know the problem, Mr. Speaker? They do not understand it. They do not understand it. See? And you know what? They do not think that the Progressive Labour Party can rub shoulders with bi llionaires.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. MembersAhh! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It is only them. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, no! Black people in this country are not supposed to rub shoulders with bi llionaires! [Inaudible interjections and general uproar ] [Gavel] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It is …
Ahh!
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It is only them.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, no! Black people in this country are not supposed to rub shoulders with bi llionaires!
[Inaudible interjections and general uproar ] [Gavel]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It is only white men who can rub shoulders with billionaires and bring business to this country!
[Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberNow you are talking!
The SpeakerThe SpeakerLet us get back on the track that you were on. Go back to the track that you were on. Members! Members! Members, Members. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, we have had a couple of predictions today . I am going to give you one, that the …
Let us get back on the track that you were on. Go back to the track that you were on. Members! Members! Members, Members. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, we have had a couple of predictions today . I am going to give you one, that the OBA is going to crash and burn over this one. They are going to crash and burn over this one, Mr. Speaker. Okay? For them to continue to denigrate and undermine this Government . . . this Government . . .
An Hon. Me mber: We fooled them.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. You know, we heard for a couple of years, because it was only a couple of years they were in power. We heard the former Finance Minister under the OBA, Bob Richards, say time and time again in this House, We need foreign investment. The Hon ourable Member Dunkley was saying when we first got in, Well, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? You’re not doing anything. You’re not doing anything. We bring Arbitrade to the table, they say, Oh! Red flags! Hurricanes on South Shore! Make up your minds!
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWe asked a legitimate question. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: One minute you say we are not doing anything; the next minute when we do something, you say, Ooh. Wait a minute. The sky is falling. The sky is falling. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The …
We asked a legitimate question.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: One minute you say we are not doing anything; the next minute when we do something, you say, Ooh. Wait a minute. The sky is falling. The sky is falling.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The bogeyman! Remember 1998? The lights are going to go out! And you know what? PLP were going to ruin this country in 1998 . . . had the larges t growth of GDP in our history from 1998 to 2008, in our history! Mr. Speaker, let me say this. We have had 44 FinTech companies incorporate in this country. Forty - four in 17 months. Forty -four. Out of that 44, a full 43 are probably saying, What’s this f ormer Premier sa ying? Because you know what? I am starting to get a feeling already (after just, what, 16 months?) that the 100 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly OBA . . . And I am glad to see that you have got some Members who say, We want the UBP gone. They are still here. Might take you a l ittle time, but it is okay. I wish you luck with it. They are still here. They are still here. But, look, Mr. Speaker.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, you know, let me say this. Right? If you have had 44 companies that have registered, 1 of them is Arbitrade, you have 43 left. What do those 43 think about Bermuda? So, here we are going to have to work extra hard. But you know what? I am getting the feeling that the old UBP is sneaking in. You know what? They will have thi s place burned down. They will have the Island burned down to get back power. But you know what? They have got a little surprise coming.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberThat is just not true. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member said, Well, that’s not true. I t’s not true. Do you read some of the things that your colleague, your good friend, Michael Dunkley, talks about in the newspaper, the Honourable Member?
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberRead them out. Read them out. Read them out. Read them out. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva : I mean, the Honourable Member Pearman just said, that is right, Nobody in Bermuda believes that Arbitrade is legit.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes. That is right. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And that is in Hansard.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberThat is right. Hon. Zane J. S. D e Silva: A lawyer . . . a lawyer whose company has benefited more than any other lawyer company with these 44 FinTech companies, I would bet. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: We did not see any point of …
That is right.
Hon. Zane J. S. D e Silva: A lawyer . . . a lawyer whose company has benefited more than any other lawyer company with these 44 FinTech companies, I would bet.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: We did not see any point of order coming up, did we?
An Hon . Member: No.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Wait for the goal. Look, listen and wait for the goal. Look at that, Mr. Speaker. It is amazing what you draw out sometimes, is it not? What people really think and feel underneath. But, Mr. Speaker, let me finish on this note. No matter what the Honourable Members Dunkley and Pearman have to say about business that we are going to try to bring to this country, no matter what they say, we will not be deterred. We will not be stopped for l ooking after the people’s interests of this country, ever, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. We now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member, you have the floor. SERVING WITH DIGNITY AND P RIDE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last Friday, which was the day that we returned to Parliament, represented the 20 …
Thank you, Honourable Member. We now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 23. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
SERVING WITH DIGNITY AND P RIDE
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last Friday, which was the day that we returned to Parliament, represented the 20 th anniversary of my coming into the hallowed halls of this honourable place of politics, having s pent the first three months actually in the other place and then coming up here on the Hill about three or four months later. In those 20 years, Mr. Speaker, of formal i nvolvement with politics, I have always striven and committed to serving this country i n general, my constituents in par ticular, and the party under whose banner I was elec ted. And I elected to serve them with dignity and with pride. I use integrity as the hallmark of my existence in coming to this place, Mr. Speaker. I have attempted to be consistent in everything that I have done. Mr. Speaker, I have worked with two of the Members who now sit on the Government benches in a different capacity when we served in the same party. At the point at which that party determined that it wanted to bec ome defunct, I had the option of quitting, resigning, retiring, doing whatever, or continuing what I deemed to be part of my purpose. And that purpose was to continue to serve in the best way that I know how, to the very best of my ability. Mr. Speaker, w hen I was given the opportunity to serve in the Cabinet, once we won the Gover nment in 2012, there were things that I did personally. Not that I necessarily need to pat myself on the back, but I looked at the financial condition of the country and made the determination that there were certain things that I could not, in all good conscience, do, not the least of which was in trying to support our athletes. I made it a point to use my own money if I needed to go somewhere. I did a trip when I was the Minist er of Public Works to communicate with the people from Royal Caribbean, as we were doing the initial stages of the widening of the channel. And because I was going to be in Miami, I used my money to go up and visit something. I used my money to go and make a trip to speak to the people who were looking to do som eOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 101
Bermuda House of Assembly thing with the hospital and the Lamb Foggo Urgent Care Centre. And there was never a time that I did anything that I needed to withhold or that I was ashamed of, that I had to look over my shoulder, when all was said and done. Was I perfect? Absolutely not. Mr. Speaker, this morning, we had a Minist erial Statement, and we asked the question, Who was the successful company that got the contract?, because the Minister’s Statement was silent on that matter. And the Minister’s response were words to the effect of (I do not wish to misquote him, so I would say “words to the effect ”), Oh, they fell for the trap, so now I will tell them that it was Crisson [Construction Li mited] who won the contract for $2 -point -whatever mi llion to do the work at the Wharf. Mr. Speaker, that, to me, shows the difference between how the Government chooses to respond to the people of Bermuda—to set traps , as the Minister indicated, into which they hope the Opposition will fall—when it would have been very easy for the information to be given straight up. So, when one questions some of the comments and some of the fears and some of the concerns that have been expressed—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPoint of order is taken. POINT OF ORDER
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThat Honourable Member is presuming to know what is in my mind. And I can assure her that there is just a long way from ever being able to figure that out.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberUh-oh. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: You are wrong.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI said they fell into the trap, because I know who they are. I know who they thought I was going to name, because that is how they operate. And I did not deliberately leave out the name of the company. I did not want to put it into the …
I said they fell into the trap, because I know who they are. I know who they thought I was going to name, because that is how they operate. And I did not deliberately leave out the name of the company. I did not want to put it into the public domain until they asked. But I knew that they were, because they ex pected that, it is their normal modus operandi.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank y ou. Continue, Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, the same way the Honourable Minister could indicate that I do not know what he is thinking, he certainly does not know what we are thinking. And he put a Stat ement out that was incomplet e, and …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchI know you have got an issue. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —so that we should never have had to ask the question. This is the people’s money. It is not the Opposition’s money. It is not the Minister’s money. It is the people’s money that is going to be …
I know you have got an issue.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —so that we should never have had to ask the question. This is the people’s money. It is not the Opposition’s money. It is not the Minister’s money. It is the people’s money that is going to be committed in order to get the thing done, Mr. Speaker!
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: So, for the Honourable Member to s tate they fell for the trap—
[Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, Members. Members. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I say one thing, Mr. Speaker. In the 20 years that I have been there, I have never been smothered by the toxicity of fumes, because I have had my head stuffed so far up. I have never done that, Mr. Speaker. …
Members, Members. Members. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I say one thing, Mr. Speaker. In the 20 years that I have been there, I have never been smothered by the toxicity of fumes, because I have had my head stuffed so far up. I have never done that, Mr. Speaker. The brown, as I have said once before in this Honourable House, on my lips comes from my lipstick tube. I do not put my face pr ecariously against the wrong part of somebody ’s anatomy.
[Laughter]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: So, for whatever I believe that needs to be said in this Honourable House—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI am glad you kept that clean in how you put it. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: And I absolutely will, M r. Speaker. I always will, because I honestly believe that the dignity of this House is deserved.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWell said. Well said. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: And I will attempt to maintain it, to the best extent that I can, Mr. Speaker. And I will say that the Government, they choose to expand the cost of Government. They choose to make as many ministers as is constitutionally …
Well said. Well said.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: And I will attempt to maintain it, to the best extent that I can, Mr. Speaker. And I will say that the Government, they choose to expand the cost of Government. They choose to make as many ministers as is constitutionally allowed. It is their prerogative to do so. They do not have to, you know, point it to me to speak to the Government. T hey do not have to care, you know. They do not have to hear me because they do not 102 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly care what I have to say. And that is fine with me. That is fine with me. So, when we question that with something very simple, in terms of what or who got a particular contract, it is no different than when I found myself in the Ministry having to make a determination as to which company was going to get a particular contract for either doing the Railway Trails or doing other things. And I had no hesitation to make recommendations, as they came back in support from the OPMP [Office of Project Management and Procurement], that companies that may have been run by Members in the Opposition at the time deserved a particular contract, because their bid was the most responsive. I did not question. And nobody questioned us to say, You gave this contract to person A. How come you didn’t give it to person B? Because we always looked at how best we could serve the public by having an effective use of the public purse. I do not apologise for that, Mr. Speaker. I do not apologise for that. So, when we heard, Mr. Speaker, that a company, which has been the subject of us and Members Opposite, indicating that there are billions of bullion . . . Billion is a lot of money. A billion can wipe out . . . you know, a couple of billion can wipe out our debt, our national debt that we have, $2 billion- plus. But when we have companies who have that level of largesse, and there was no support to say that this is who they are, when you google people and you could not see what they have—
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I think the Honourable Member is misleading the House, maybe unintentionally, when she says there is no proof. This company, Mr. Speaker, you know, because that Honourable Member does not have what she …
We will take your point of order.
POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I think the Honourable Member is misleading the House, maybe unintentionally, when she says there is no proof. This company, Mr. Speaker, you know, because that Honourable Member does not have what she calls the “proof,” it does not mean that this company is not legit or does not have what they say they have. What she is going by is a report that she may have read in the paper. And there have been plenty of them. And they have not been correct.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And let me remind the Honourable Member and the House that they are li stening, because I have just got emails from them. So, let us respect our people who want to come here and invest in our country and our people.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPoint taken, point taken. Continue on, Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, I have no intention in this Honourable House other than to seek facts and to repeat them as they are known to be. So, if information that I have is incorrect, I am the first one …
Point taken, point taken. Continue on, Member.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, I have no intention in this Honourable House other than to seek facts and to repeat them as they are known to be. So, if information that I have is incorrect, I am the first one to say that maybe I was misinformed. I do not have a problem wit h that, as I said earlier. I am not perfect, and I do not profess to be.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberBut you are pretty close. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have no doubt. I have no doubt. [Laughter] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: But, you know, so often . . . so often we have comments that are made where it is obvious that Members opposite do not want …
But you are pretty close. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have no doubt. I have no doubt. [Laughter]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: But, you know, so often . . . so often we have comments that are made where it is obvious that Members opposite do not want to be confused by facts. They make spurious comments about whatever we may have done, histor-ically. And then they wrap it up in a thought process that says, Oh, they are the past. We are future. We heard somebody talk today about 1906 . . . but, We only look forward. I understand that. I understand that.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: So, it is only okay for one side of the House to speak to the past and the future. And I do not have a problem with that. Accepting what the electorate decided in July of 2017 is the easiest thing for me to do—the easiest —
[Inaudible interjections ]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWhat? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: To fire me! The easiest thing for me to do, because that is something over which we have no control. But when I hear — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, when I hear that somehow my early service to this …
What?
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: To fire me! The easiest thing for me to do, because that is something over which we have no control. But when I hear —
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, when I hear that somehow my early service to this country was valueless because . . . because—
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon –Pamplin: —because it was as a Member of the UBP, and yet we do not see anybody saying, you know . . . and there were articles coming from our side of the House, I must admit, saying, Get rid of the UBP. Get rid of the UBP. And I understand that. I did not have a problem with that. I was Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 103
Bermuda House of Assembly certainly a member of the UBP in this House. And certainly, I do not have any difficulty, as I said. I know who I am, I know whos e I am, and I know from where I have come. I know from where I have come, Mr. Speaker. And the one thing about me, as I have said before, if I misspeak, I am more than happy to do the research to find out the information and correct any misstatement that I may have made. So, we have asked that there be efficiencies, that there be efficiencies when a Cabinet is com-posed. And we make sure from the way we always did things. We are not saying that we have the right or the interest or the desire to tell the Pr emier how to operate. As long as he stays within the Constitution . . . as long as he stays within the Constitution, he can do what he wants. He can do what he wants! We can observe, because the people of Bermuda also know, Mr. Speaker, that it is costing us more now than it was before. They have the right to ask. So, as I stood to my feet, Mr. Speaker, when I hear Members coming over and saying I am the ult imate defender, I am going to be the defender of truth, irrespective of what Members opposite, the G overnment, might want to say in between Border Lane, or wherever it is that he sits. Because I find that to be tremendously offensive. I would never second- guess Members on that side, because we do not share the same political phi-losophy. I would never suggest that there is som ething untoward about their intent and about their service. I do not do that, Mr. Speaker! So, Mr. Speaker, for those who choose not to be confused by facts , and for those who would suggest that all we want to do is to throw out red meat and to try to muddy the waters, when all we are doing is to try to do our job . . . You know, it is so easy. Mr. Speaker, if one could say, Every single thing that the Government says is right and we bow to you and we support you, and everything is wonderful and all is well with the world, that would be wonderful if we could do that, Mr. Speaker. But that is not our job. Our job is to critique. But, as I heard this morning, Mr. Speaker, at the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast, all I can say is that when the guest speaker of the day, the featured speaker of the day said that his daughter had an opportunity as they were driving down the highway, and she misread the sign. The attitude that I am getting here today, Mr. Speaker, I fully, wholeheartedly agree with that speaker this morning. We are dealing with Slow Men Working. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHonourable Member, I now recognise the Deputy Speaker. Deputy Speaker, you have the floor. CALL FOR BETTER GOVERNANCE FROM LANGTON HILL Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has gotten kind of lively. It has gotten a little stormy outside. But, Mr. Speaker, …
Honourable Member, I now recognise the Deputy Speaker. Deputy Speaker, you have the floor. CALL FOR BETTER GOVERNANCE FROM LANGTON HILL
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has gotten kind of lively. It has gotten a little stormy outside. But, Mr. Speaker, we have had—not we. The occupants of the largest house on Langton Hill have had an investigation going on for eight years —longer than Watergate—hiring folks from overseas and locally, travelling around the world, wining and dining on the taxpayers’ money, whilst Mrs. Smith cannot even afford medication, or even put her lights on and buy food. Mr. Speaker, this investigation all stems from what I will call a setup to make an accusation; and hence the investigation started. Mr. Speaker, in a 1998 audit report, $16 mi llion was not collected by the Accountant General, be-cause law firms undervalued assets to pay less duty to the government. And, you know, there was no i nvestigation, Mr. Speaker. Not one stitch of investigation. The auditor did not order it, because, you know why, Mr. Speaker? The law firms were white. And you do not investigate white law firms in Bermuda. If that had been a dark law firm, you can bet your life it would have been investigated, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when will this investigation stop? Because they go into people’s bank accounts, and if they see something that black folks, in particular, should not have, it is suspicious. But it is not suspicious that white folks have it. That is the way; that is the history of Government, of that occupant of the largest house on Langton Hill, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, even when you look at the appointments that the occupants of the largest house on Langton Hill make, less than 10 per cent of the appointments that have been made have been black folks. Why, Mr. Speaker? Black folks are not trusted. They look at black folks as something other than normal. And let me say this here. Not all white folks are like this here, because I do remember one occ upant of Langton Hill who went to Canada and got a Berm udian up there and brought him home so he could start to put black folks in posit ion. And he was Lord Martonmere, who went and brought Calvin Smith home. So, not all of them were like that. But he was fighting the oligarchy of Bermuda. He could not go further than that, Mr. Speaker, you know? And as the Member from Paget, Mr. Pearman, said tonight, Nothing is right (I am paraphrasing now) that we do. And he was talking about certain companies with the FinTech, a very degrading statement, one that I am sure that he regrets. He has got to r egret—
Mr. Scott PearmanPoint of order, Mr. S peaker. 104 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott PearmanI am sorry. You are not going to paraphrase me and then say that I said something which is highly offensive. Who was the “they” that I said something about? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott PearmanThe gentleman is misleading the House. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Do not tell me I am not going to do what, right, because you do not have that authority to tell me what I am going to do. Let us not do that.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers, let us try and not get on a personal level.
Mr. Scott PearmanMr. Speaker, the Honourable Member has just paraphrased and then misquoted what I have said. If he would like to say what I said, I will listen politely. And if he is wrong, I will challenge him on it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I paraphrased, …
Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member has just paraphrased and then misquoted what I have said. If he would like to say what I said, I will listen politely. And if he is wrong, I will challenge him on it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I paraphrased, Mr. Speaker. I made my statement. If he is not satisfied, that is fine.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerLet us move on. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: He can get up next, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerLet us move on. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: But, Mr. Speaker, that is how these folks are looking at us. They need to start looking at black folks as equal to them. We were born like them. We bleed red like them. When I give blood down at the …
Let us move on.
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: But, Mr. Speaker, that is how these folks are looking at us. They need to start looking at black folks as equal to them. We were born like them. We bleed red like them. When I give blood down at the hospital, it does not say this blood is going to anybody black or white. It goes to anybody who needs it. And these folks had better start to understand that and to understand that white folks can do business with a black Government. It is okay, nothing wrong with that. Stop looking at us like we are less than human, like we do not have the competence to sit down with people and break bread and do business. Got to stop this foolishnes s in this country! This is 2018, and we still have this racism, subtle racism sometimes, and sometimes outright racism. The actions of the white supremacist, that is how some folks in this coun-try are acting, and they need to stop it. They need to stop it now and show our children that we can get on as one. And it must start from the largest house on Langton Hill, looking at us and persecuting and trying to prosecute us also. That particular house up there perpetuated racism in this country when it was outlawed in the UK. So, Mr. Speaker, I call on better governance from Langton Hill. And look at people’s colour with respect. Do not invite me up there for tea and rub shoulders, and then the real party . . . when he wants information, we are not invited. I am not going to Government House for anything, only if I have to go there. But I will not go for anything else, because of the hi story of that Hill up there. Stop the investigation on Dr. Browne. Eight years! Longer than Watergate. Never heard such in my life. This type of investigation would never go, would never take place, if Dr. Brown was from a di fferent race and in a different party. Because it is over here, it is different, just like they treat Zane De Silva, because Zane De Silva is over here. Just l ike they treated Dr. Ball and others who have joined us, as you would know better than me. (You are much older than me, Mr. Speaker.)
[Laughter]
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: So, you would know better than me. So, Mr. Speaker, with that I take my seat.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Deputy. With that, I recognise the Member from St. George’s, the Honourable Member Ming. OBA’S ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE PLP
Mrs. Renee MingGood night, Mr. Speaker and li stening audience. Mr. Speaker, with our opening of Parliament, I just want to take this time to continue to encourage our people and our listening audience to . . . I said it before in this place, stay woke. Because a lot of times, …
Good night, Mr. Speaker and li stening audience. Mr. Speaker, with our opening of Parliament, I just want to take this time to continue to encourage our people and our listening audience to . . . I said it before in this place, stay woke. Because a lot of times, things get said here . . . and I know if you were actually to . . . And I do this a lot. I go . . . I am sure I could be one of CNN’s fact finders, because I go back and I look at a lot of different things. I mean, just even in here tonight, for instance, when we said that my brother across the way, MP De Silva, was the shortest Minister. T hen, you know, I went right down to the month. And I said, Well, no. Actually, my honourable colleague, Mr. Cannonier, was actually seven months in and you were ten months. So, that was not the shortest one. If you wanted to know from month to month, there you go.
[Inaudible interjection]
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Bermuda House of Assembly Mrs. Renee Ming: And I say all of that because I know that things get said sometimes. And our people have to either hear things in the media, that other place, that wretched newspaper sometimes. And, you know what? You have to be able to start to take things and really investigate them for yourself. Like som ebody might even think that I, who as, you know . . . if there is one thing I am going to talk to you about, always, it would be, what? St. George’s.
[Inaudible int erjection]
Mrs. Renee MingYes. For years, I did ask the question, from 2015 to 2018, about what does “ reasonable access ” mean for a beach? I went up and down, around and around, asking just a simple question. What does reasonable access mean in the St. George’s Resort Act of 2015? It …
Yes. For years, I did ask the question, from 2015 to 2018, about what does “ reasonable access ” mean for a beach? I went up and down, around and around, asking just a simple question. What does reasonable access mean in the St. George’s Resort Act of 2015? It was never answered. There was never any consultation. There was no pub-lic consultation, nothing. In 2018, the Progressive Labour Party Government brought a Bill called the St. George’s Resort Act 2018, and that word “reasonable” was removed. I represent 1,200- plus people down there in St. George’s, who were all very concerned about that leg-islation. Even to this day, sometimes, they still have concerns about the logistics of that development. But in 2018, this Government —wh o listened, who consulted—made one change.
Mrs. Renee MingA change that the people of St. George’s were able to live with.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberExactly.
Mrs. Renee MingSo, it was not hypocrisy. It was not using that or anything like that. It was actually called listening and doing the work of the people and getting something done. I think sometimes, like I said, I want people to know, hear, and go and understand these things. And maybe, …
So, it was not hypocrisy. It was not using that or anything like that. It was actually called listening and doing the work of the people and getting something done. I think sometimes, like I said, I want people to know, hear, and go and understand these things. And maybe, you know what? You will find them out for yoursel ves. Do not believe everything you read. Then you have a sex offender register. I just came off of a committee for that, the Joint Select Committee that looked into that. And now we have our Government putting forth legislation that came out with some of the recommendations from this commi ttee. It may have started somewhere else, maybe. But for two and a half years, there was nothing. And I did not hear all the jumping up and down, because I sat on that Joint Select Committee as well. This piece of legisla tion right here and this, even the recommendations that came out of here, put some protections in place for our children, for our adults and for our communities. And it is a very serious piece of legislation. I do not even play with it, because I do not ev en like to play politics with these kinds of things here, because these are real deals.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMember, let me just remind you that the Throne Speech debate ended. So, please do not reflect.
Mrs. Renee MingOh, no, Mr. Speaker, I am reflec ting on t hings that we did not get a chance to speak about before.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJust be careful. There is a line you do not want to cross.
Mrs. Renee MingNo problem. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. But on August the 10 th, when we delivered this report to this House, I can tell you that it came with a pure passion for wanting to see things done, to protect our communities. And a lot of times, I think what you …
No problem. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. But on August the 10 th, when we delivered this report to this House, I can tell you that it came with a pure passion for wanting to see things done, to protect our communities. And a lot of times, I think what you see from this Government is just that. We want to protect. We want to make things equal. And we want to do what is right by the people of Bermuda. And sometimes, when I am saying that, I really hope the listening audience is listening, because you have to go out sometimes and find out the truth. And you take these documents that we put out, and you have a read of it. And feel free to ask any of your representatives what is in those documents, because that is what we should be doing. That is what we are being held accountable to. What we say we are going to do is what we do. Mr. Speaker, I am also encouraging people to be wary of those persons who are divisive, who want to divide and have a negative discourse. Okay? B ecause as we move forward, we have no time for that. Our children have to get along. If you want to see a fairer and a better Bermuda, it has to happen here. So, Mr. Speaker, I am just saying all of this to say that I do not have time for Trump- style politics. I do not even think Bermuda needs to adopt anything from the United States right now. But I encourage people to continue to stay woke and to make sure that they go and you do their homework. Because up until 2017, I know our people had really turned over, and they were starting to look at things and see that, sometimes, what you say may not always be the entire story. Mr. Speaker, there is always passion in speeches in the House of Assembly. There is passion in speeches sometimes outside of the House of A ssembly. But, once again, I would just encourage our people, all of Bermuda, all Bermudians, anyone, make sure that you are doing your homework, and get what is the truth. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 106 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Minister for Works.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. KINGS WHARF REHABILITATION
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThank you for this opportunity. I am going to start with something that is probably not quite familiar with many people. And that is this book we often call a “platform.” On my travels, I refer to it as a “book of promises.” I refer to my constituents, particularly in …
Thank you for this opportunity. I am going to start with something that is probably not quite familiar with many people. And that is this book we often call a “platform.” On my travels, I refer to it as a “book of promises.” I refer to my constituents, particularly in recent times where I hear the comment that the PLP ain’t doing nothing. And I say, first of all, you have to look at the messenger. Second, you then have to ask, What is it exactly that you are talking about? Are you talking about a promise that we made, or something that you want to see happen that you cooked up in the privacy of your own home? B ecause the promises that we made, Mr. Speaker, follow this book. And so, they come as no surprise. Mr. Speaker, I was challenged earlier this evening by a former Minister of Works. Now, they had so many during their time. I do not know who the Mi nister was in 2014 when the report came on King’s Wharf, a 77- page report that set out in quite specif ic terms what the challenges were with King’s Wharf and what needed to be done to remediate them.
[Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchOkay? Never tabled by them, Mr. Speaker. And whilst I am being challenged on what I said, I would not have to have said anything, Mr. Speaker, had that been taken care of in 2014, 2015, 2016 or 2017.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberOoh! Ooh! Ooh!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchIt was not. It was left to us. And, Mr. Speaker, I can tell you that the number of things t hat have been left to us just in this Mi nistry of Public Works alone is astounding. And I will come next week with something else. Okay? And it …
It was not. It was left to us. And, Mr. Speaker, I can tell you that the number of things t hat have been left to us just in this Mi nistry of Public Works alone is astounding. And I will come next week with something else. Okay? And it reflects on the fact that we are accused of not being concerned and of [not] having any economic sense. Four years ago, for King’s Wharf, the estimate was $20 million. Now, you do the math, Mr. Speaker. U nder normal circumstances, one would expect that four years later that price would have gone up. We are saying we can do it for $15 [million], because we have approached it in a progressive and significant way. And that is not to beat anybody up, Mr. Speaker, because it is going to affect every single person in this country if we fail on this project. B ecause we need that cruise pier operational and ready to go in A pril 2019. And I have every confidence, Mr. Speaker, that the young civil engineer who is in charge of this project is going to make it happen. And I can guarantee you that we will stand firmly and squarely behind her to ensure that all of the resources that are required to make that happen are in place.
GRAND ATLANTIC
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Speaker, I take any criticism of Grand Atlantic personally. And I take it personally because I happened to have been sitting in this job a decade ago, maybe slightly less than that, when Grand Atlantic was built. I soon after left that responsibility. And one of the criticisms that …
Mr. Speaker, I take any criticism of Grand Atlantic personally. And I take it personally because I happened to have been sitting in this job a decade ago, maybe slightly less than that, when Grand Atlantic was built. I soon after left that responsibility. And one of the criticisms that I had, and have, was that I did not feel, and do not feel, that my Government at the time defended the Grand Atlantic process and project strongly enough. That said, however, they do not take anywhere near the majority of the blame. One of my col-leagues referred earlier to something that . . . I guess I might have seen it. But, I mean, it was quite offensive.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberVery offensive.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchBut even notwithstanding that, Mr. Speaker, the project that is now proceeding on the Grand Atlantic, soon to be renamed Bermudiana Beach Resort . . . you know when it started, Mr. Speaker? Before we came. And I do not know which one of those people was the Minister of …
But even notwithstanding that, Mr. Speaker, the project that is now proceeding on the Grand Atlantic, soon to be renamed Bermudiana Beach Resort . . . you know when it started, Mr. Speaker? Before we came. And I do not know which one of those people was the Minister of Public Works or had the responsibility for it, but they turned it down. They turned that project down, Mr. Speaker. And that project is going forward. I do not know if you travel South Shore. But you will recall, Mr. Speaker, that before this House rose for the summer recess, we took a whole lot of flak because we forced through a Bill that provided for subsidiaries so that project could proceed. And we were accused of all manner of sins, Mr. Speaker . Now, under normal circumstances, one would expect that you probably could be guilty. But since they sat in that seat for a number of years when that project languished, there is no valid reason to criticise it, other than to criticise for the sake of cr iticising. And there was a suggestion that, Oh, we’re railroading it through, and nothing will happen. Well, if you have been up South Shore, Mr. Speaker, you will know that virtually every one of those buildings has been r epainted. And work is underway. A nd construction is underway in terms of creating the show units that will soon be marketed. And the process is moving forward as indicated.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWell done. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 107 Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: But, Mr. Speaker, the biggest criticism . . . and I am never going to forgive these people for this until they actually stand up and publicly apologise to the …
Well done.
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Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: But, Mr. Speaker, the biggest criticism . . . and I am never going to forgive these people for this until they actually stand up and publicly apologise to the people of this country. And that is the group known as the Bermuda Environmental Sustainability Task Force, and the rest of them who, for years, Mr. Speak er, criticised and stood with the OBA and talked about how Grand Atlantic was going to fall into South Shore. Every opportunity they got . . . every opportunity they got, they said it was going to fall into . . . So, why would Mrs. Smith spend two dollars to invest in it? Why? I would not. No sane person would, if you believed the media and every voice that said, Oh, it is going to fall into South Shore. You know what happened, Mr. Speaker? B ecause I am not a person who rewrites modern history like some of what we have heard in this House today. I think the week after the 2012 election, I have not gone and looked in the media, because it was said in the media . . . Oh, we’re good with it now. And we’re good with it now because the former Government, oh, they talked to us. And so now, it is not going to fall into South Shore, and all is well and good. And whilst there is still criticism of it from the other side, amazingly, Mr. Speaker, last year during their beloved Amer ica’s Cup, there was nothing wrong wi th the facility whatsoever so that they could house their beloved sailors and whomever else in Grand Atlantic.
[Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMr. Speaker, so, until the people who criticise this just because they had no valid reason to do so . . . and I would suggest just because it was a PLP project . . . because I can guarantee you, Mr. Speaker. I can predict something tonight, too. Had …
Mr. Speaker, so, until the people who criticise this just because they had no valid reason to do so . . . and I would suggest just because it was a PLP project . . . because I can guarantee you, Mr. Speaker. I can predict something tonight, too. Had there not been that type of valid criticism, not only would it have been sold, you would hav e had families living on South Shore today. But I suspect that there were other reasons at work.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberOh, yes!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchOh, yes! I know there were other reasons at work, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Ho n. David A. Burch—because I also happened to be sitting in this post when the Loughlands process and project was built, okay? There was a former Minister of this House who stood and criticised it until it was even built, and still criticised it. And I kn ow that when they went to …
—because I also happened to be sitting in this post when the Loughlands process and project was built, okay? There was a former Minister of this House who stood and criticised it until it was even built, and still criticised it. And I kn ow that when they went to canvass . . . I know that you could criticise things whilst they are an idea. But once you actually start construction and you have to go knock on people’s doors, I know the one thing that they will remember when they came a calli ng asking for votes, You did not want me to be living here.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchAnd every shade of Bermudian could report to me that this is the answer they gave to that Honourable Member who used to be a Member of this House. So, Mr. Speaker —
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYou are making points now.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchRight. Oh, I know I am making one. Mr. Speaker, I want to talk about one other thing.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou have got a few minutes left.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch—that I know very li ttle, and understand even less, about FinTech and blockchain. And I had requested the Minister months ago to come up with a one pager for three- year olds, so that I might be able to understand, and Ms. Smith would be able to join me …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchMy knowledge has increased a little bit, because I went to every one of his presentations and got a nugget from each one of them. But Mr. Speaker, I am unequivocal in my support of FinTech and blockchain, and all of this stuff that I do not understand. And do …
My knowledge has increased a little bit, because I went to every one of his presentations and got a nugget from each one of them. But Mr. Speaker, I am unequivocal in my support of FinTech and blockchain, and all of this stuff that I do not understand. And do you know why, Mr. Speaker? Because when I look and I see the Appl eby’s of the world, and the CD&Ps of the world, and the KPMGs of the world, and the Deloitte and the EYs of the world, who are setting up F inTech units —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch—in their operation and positioning themselves . . . what they see into the future . . . Mr. Speaker, I characterise all of these folks as people who smell money. 108 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly An Hon. Member: That’s ri ght! [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThey can smell money at a thousand paces, Mr. Speaker. And I know! I know! I have seen the movie before. The movie is, Oh, no, we are going to criticise it over here, Ms. Smith, so that you think that this i s a bad thing and—
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberThat’s right!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch—in the meantime, we are going to be setting up our operation to be able to take all of the benefits of this. [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchIn this current Throne Speech. And I . . . I . . . I . . . Let me decree and declare something else, because people get confused. I do read t he Royal Gazett e. I do not read it on the day it is published, because I …
In this current Throne Speech. And I . . . I . . . I . . . Let me decree and declare something else, because people get confused. I do read t he Royal Gazett e. I do not read it on the day it is published, because I do not think fiction has to be read on the day it is published.
[Laughter ]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchAnd I do not buy it. People save them for me. But I read them all and I read them in s equence. So, right now, I am about a week behind. But what I do know, Mr. Speaker, is that when the Royal Gazette criticises —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burc h—and writes the same narrative that we are getting from the other side, but yet, i n the same newspaper they are publishing the incorporations of FinTech companies . . . so, they know they are lying to you. They know, not from no one else’s vault. They know from …
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCorrect.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch—that what they are saying is not correct. And so, what I am saying, Mr. Speaker, that when you hear . . . and I do not necessarily read the online newspaper, because I am old- fashioned. I need to have the paper. And so therefore, I do not see …
—that what they are saying is not correct. And so, what I am saying, Mr. Speaker, that when you hear . . . and I do not necessarily read the online newspaper, because I am old- fashioned. I need to have the paper. And so therefore, I do not see the blogs, but people report them to me. And so, in the Throne Speech, it was very interesting to me that it was reported that the president in the Chamber of Commerce came out in support of the Throne Speech and items in it, and basically, gener ally in agreement with the Throne Speech. But Mr. Speaker, we have grown such a cabal of racist, discriminatory people who write anonymously on the blogs, and of course, you cannot control them.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchSo, because that is where they are, that is where they stay. And so normally that venom is directed toward people on this side. But if one person who traditionally supports business puts one toe—
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberOh, yeah.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch—in suppor t of the . . . they come over the mountain after them. And for me it is incredibly entertaining, because the president of BF&M, who is also the president of the Chamber, got an almighty flogging for even suggesting that, Oh, the PLP might have put out …
—in suppor t of the . . . they come over the mountain after them. And for me it is incredibly entertaining, because the president of BF&M, who is also the president of the Chamber, got an almighty flogging for even suggesting that, Oh, the PLP might have put out two things good in a budget , in the Throne Speech, and we are headed in a certain direction. Mr. Speaker, the challenge that people who challenge us have is that what we believe is where we are. We do not have to be taught. I was having a conversation with someone today (I think in the lunc hroom) about how, in my humble opinion, we as a country and we as a Government have gone overboard in terms of the hurdles that have been placed in people’s way in order to ensure that governments, and ministers, and people in public service remain honest. And I was saying amid all of this, you know, I do not need anyone to tap me on my shoulder and to say, that, you know, you have got to do what is right , because it is right. Because I know that I remember my upbringing.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberAmen.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThere were people that raised me that told me from the cradle to adul thood, and even though many of them are no longer here, they are still with me. And whilst I sometimes stray from what some people think should be, you know, being nice to folk, I do …
There were people that raised me that told me from the cradle to adul thood, and even though many of them are no longer here, they are still with me. And whilst I sometimes stray from what some people think should be, you know, being nice to folk, I do not ever forget who and whose I am, and where I come from. And so, I do not need any OPMP, I do not need any of these other people to try and make sure that I remain honest, or I do what is the right thing. O r to be told that, you know, it is never too late to do the right thing. I do not . . . we do not need that. And I am a member of the PLP, and I think all of us are memOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 109
Bermuda House of Assembly bers of the PLP, not because of political power, not because of station, because you sur e as hell are not getting out of that.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchIt is because we believe in a philosophy . We believe in the underlying fundamental principles that this party is founded on: justice, equality —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch—care and concern for your neighbour, doing what is right for the people of this country. Some Hon. Member s: That is right.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchAnd sometimes you have to . . . it is just like cod liver oil. And parents used to make you take that stuff and, what was it? What was the commercial? Is it cod liver oil or broccoli? It tastes awful, but it . . . something— [Inaudible interjections …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchAnd so sometimes . . . and I can assure you, Mr. Speaker, that as long as I have a responsibility in this Parliament and in this Government, we will do what is the right thing to do.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberThat is right.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchIn spite of some of the challenges that we may face from people who suggest that we should be doing some things differently.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThe book of promises. If it is not in here . . . and I am not saying that we will not do it. Because you have to be responsive to the changing circumstances that you face. But fundamentally, this i s the Bible! This is the Bible! This is …
The book of promises. If it is not in here . . . and I am not saying that we will not do it. Because you have to be responsive to the changing circumstances that you face. But fundamentally, this i s the Bible! This is the Bible! This is a fairly decent one. My actual working one, the back has come off it, the staples have come out and everything else because it is something that I carry everywhere and utilise as my roadmap in the responsibilities that I have, as all of us do. The Premier, he brings it to Cabinet every Tuesday and keeps us focused. And what I want the people of this country to understand is that we do not just throw things up in the air and figure out what it is that we are going to do. We have a plan.
[Inaudible interjections ]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchAnd there is a process . And the process is . . . this is for five years. I heard a reporter on the news the other night, criticising the Government because we had not completed this platform in the last year. And I am not going to argue with …
And there is a process . And the process is . . . this is for five years. I heard a reporter on the news the other night, criticising the Government because we had not completed this platform in the last year. And I am not going to argue with him tonight. I want to, but I am going to go find him, and I am going to educate him and say, This is for the whole term mat-o!
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberExactly.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. BurchThis is for the whole term. And I can tell you that from a Public Works point of view, you will see there is very little in here, there is very little in the Throne Speech. But I can assure you, that is not where we end. You do not …
This is for the whole term. And I can tell you that from a Public Works point of view, you will see there is very little in here, there is very little in the Throne Speech. But I can assure you, that is not where we end. You do not tick those two boxes and then end. This party, Mr. Speaker, has a history of being supportive and standing up for what is right in this country. And the fact that some of our forbearers who have gone on . . . we are picking up the banner and carrying the mantle to carry us to the next l evel. And when it is time for me to leave this job and hand over to one of my colleagues whom they were trying to agitate on the Backbench, I will pass the baton to them 110 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly happily and willingly. And because we are a team, they will take that baton and say, I am carrying it to the next level s o that I can do the same to the person who is going to follow me. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections and desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. We will now recognise the Leader of the O pposition. Honourable Member, you have the floor. GATES BAY BEACH ACCESS CLARIFICATION Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I am not going to be long. I think enough has been said today. We have …
Thank you, Honourable Member. We will now recognise the Leader of the O pposition. Honourable Member, you have the floor. GATES BAY BEACH ACCESS CLARIFICATION Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I am not going to be long. I think enough has been said today. We have had a very healthy debate. But there is a need for some clarification on the motion to adjourn that I feel is necessary. And I recognise that maybe by changing a word when it comes to Gates Bay and the beach and taking out “reasonable access ” . . . I know that consultation was extensive and taking out “ reasonable” does not change the access. The access is still as it was before, where the public can go and use that beach. So, I take it, you know, maybe we should have taken out the word “ reasonable. ” But I know that St. Regis group spent many town hall meetings. I was at those town hall meetings (some I was not at) clar ifying the fact that public access —
Mrs. Renee MingPoint of information, Mr. Speaker. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —to that beach.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWill take the point of information. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Point of information: no, no, no. No.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOops. You did say information, so let him continue on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. And I know that extensive consultation took place so that the public was aware. And yes, there were questions being asked about what is reasonable access. And St. Regis themselves set out to explain that …
Oops. You did say information, so let him continue on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. And I know that extensive consultation took place so that the public was aware. And yes, there were questions being asked about what is reasonable access. And St. Regis themselves set out to explain that very fact, that the beach was still accessible to the public. So, I grant it. I take what the MP has said. But I know for a fact that the access has not changed, even though we have taken the word out. [ Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The exact same wording was in the Park Hyatt Ac t. Yes, yes.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberReasonable access. GRAND ATLANTIC Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Reasonable access, abs olutely. And also, I wanted to speak to the Grand A tlantic and the property there. And the question was about why possibly we did not get it completed. I can say this for a fact. By the time …
Reasonable access. GRAND ATLANTIC Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Reasonable access, abs olutely. And also, I wanted to speak to the Grand A tlantic and the property there. And the question was about why possibly we did not get it completed. I can say this for a fact. By the time I became the Minister of Public Works, the particular company who had put in a bid for that property . . . we extended that MOU [Memorandum of Understanding] over and over and over to ensure that they could get whatever they needed to get together: financing, the packages that they needed. So we were more than willing to help. But they could not fulfil the promises that they had made and the commitments that they had made. And so that is why we put it back out to RFP [Request for Proposal], and rightfully so. When it went back out to RFP, maybe that gave them enough time. But if year after year, if we extend the MOU and nothing happens, we have to put it back out to the public. There may be others who may be interested. And that was the only fair and right thing to do. The only fair and right thing to do! So, I am glad, and I have spoken to the House when the opportunity came and we only had a day to debate the new changes that had taken place. I stood up in thi s House and said, Yes, let us move ahead. If there is an opportunity here, let us take that opportunity . Never once did anyone say anything about a bogeyman or anything else to cast a dark shadow on that property.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCertainly did not stop them. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The idea was to get that property moving. And I have said it before in this House as well. If you were not able to win the argument before about the fact that the bank was falling down, that does not …
Certainly did not stop them. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The idea was to get that property moving. And I have said it before in this House as well. If you were not able to win the argument before about the fact that the bank was falling down, that does not fall on the Opposition. That fell on you as a Government to convince this Island that it was the right thing to do. And we can blame all kinds of organisations we want. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPoint of order. Official Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 111 Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member, I think maybe mistakenly, is misleading the House. When he said that, you know, it is up to us to inform people …
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Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member, I think maybe mistakenly, is misleading the House. When he said that, you know, it is up to us to inform people out there. We did, Mr. Speaker. But the problem is that with the OBA and the combined ‘ Royal Rag,’ it was hard for us to defeat it. And, of course, the result is that is why it is sitting here today.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was not the OBA. But so be it. It was not the OBA. But so be it. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So . . . so—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on. Continue on. Continue on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Mr. Speaker? So, Mr. Speaker, that was where I left it. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A point of order, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member said it was not the OBA. I have tabled this. …
Continue on. Continue on. Continue on. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Mr. Speaker? So, Mr. Speaker, that was where I left it.
POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A point of order, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member said it was not the OBA. I have tabled this. This is one of their heads. So, you cannot say it in the OBA.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: That was after the project. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It was after the project, but that is why, Mr. Speaker, we could not sell them. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Wow! Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member, I have given him latitude, but he is really stretching it there. I was not even involved in politics when that project was being done. So, when I got involved and saw what was going on, that had already passed. Now, there might have been Members there that did an ad, that were still talking about it. But the project had already been built. So . . . and no one was taking them on. How long ago was that?
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: [It was] 2012.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, 2012. Now he cannot do math. So the ad they are talking about. So, anyhow, Mr. Speaker, the point is this: Just like it was upon us to convince the public that we needed to go ahead and do the airport, that we were going to do America’s Cup, we continued to be barraged by the, Oh, don’t do this, and, Oh, don’t do that. This is going to . . . Almost as if the cliff was going to fall in. S o, we got enough to pass around here. Enough!
POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. I have to do a point of order. He is misleading the House. The airport and this deal are two completely . . . they are apples and oranges. Mr. Speaker, the airport was not put out to tender. That is why we were against it.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue, continue, continue. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have been down that road. We are talking about the debate that took place over whether or not it should be done. And all kinds of things were said about the airport. All kinds of things are still …
Continue, continue, continue.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have been down that road. We are talking about the debate that took place over whether or not it should be done. And all kinds of things were said about the airport. All kinds of things are still being said about America’s Cup. Yet, despite the fact that pr ofessionals have already looked at these projects and said t hat they have been a success, we still hear the dark horse speaking over it. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: You know? So, at the end of the day —
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberWhen you say “white” horse they could be offended. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yeah, absolutely. He is going to be offended. He is going to be offended. [Inaudible interjections]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue to speak this way. Speak this way. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, Mr. Speaker, I recognise that in the cut and thrust of all of what is going on, it is beholden upon us when we see something good to speak to it. But it also is beholden upon …
Continue to speak this way. Speak this way.
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, Mr. Speaker, I recognise that in the cut and thrust of all of what is going on, it is beholden upon us when we see something good to speak to it. But it also is beholden upon us as an Oppos ition to also ask questions. And every time we ask a question, it does not mean that it has an ulterior m otive, or that someone believes that because it is the PLP that something . . . I do not know, something else is going on! For me, those days are done! Get on with the project if you have got to get on with the project. 112 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly But it you do not put in your statement who has won the contract, you are going to get asked. You are going to get asked! It is public access information. We should know!
[Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: We should know! Yes, we have the answer. The answer was, Well, we knew that you were going to ask the question. So, it was kind of like, we were laying this out for you to see if you were going to ask . What kind of leadership is that? Just answer the question.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member[It’s] $5 million worth of leadership. Hon. L. Craig Ca nnonier: Yes, $5 million. And we are still trying to sort out the $42 million.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, I am glad that the Honourable Member who is in charge of Public Works has the opportunity to fulfil — [Inaudible interjections ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMembers! Members! Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —that mandate over there from Grand Atlantic, $42 million, which if you do square footage and work it out, is not low -cost housing. So, I am glad that he has the opportunity to do something about this property. But to insinuate, Mr. Speaker, …
Members! Members!
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: —that mandate over there from Grand Atlantic, $42 million, which if you do square footage and work it out, is not low -cost housing. So, I am glad that he has the opportunity to do something about this property. But to insinuate, Mr. Speaker, to insinuate that we could not complete the project, when in actual fact we over and over and over extended the MOU to ensure they had an opportunity to fulfil it . . . so, I am glad. I am glad that he is going to get this thing fixed. And I showed that I was appr eciative of him by getting up and being the only Member over this side to say, Let’s get on with it and get it done. Let’s get on with it and get it done. Never once did I say, Oh, well, you know, he w as the one who messed it up in the fir st . . . I did not say that! You have an opportunity there? Let’s get it done. So, let’s get it done. But do not insinuate over on this side that for some reason we dropped the ball on that, because we never did drop t he ball on that. Opportunity after opportunity. In fact, I heard the Honourable Member, I put it out to RFP because he said he might possibly buy it, Honourable Zane De Silva. He said he might buy it. So, I went back and said, Put it back out to RFP. We mi ght have other people who might want to look at it.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberDo not tell lies. Do not tell lies. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: That is the truth. It did not happen.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberHe said it himself. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: He did. Put it out to tender. You did not go for it.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberOoh! Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: You said it! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Yes. Let him finish. Let him finish. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, you are not giving me a break. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I am going to try and make sure that I give you a break as well. So, Mr. Speaker, I am …
Yes. Yes. Let him finish. Let him finish.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, you are not giving me a break. [Inaudible interjection]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I am going to try and make sure that I give you a break as well. So, Mr. Speaker, I am appreciative of this opportunity that we have in this House. I do believe that we are heading to a better place. I have listened to the debate today. And I recognise that there has been a bit of a thrust and cut going back and forth. But I can reassure you, Mr. Speaker, that we are watching the PLP.
[Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberStill watching your back? [Laughter and inaudible interjections ] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And I will always watch my back, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So Mr. Speaker, I hope that I am the last speaker. [Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: We have missed the game now. But …
Still watching your back?
[Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And I will always watch my back, Mr. Speaker.
[Laughter]
Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So Mr. Speaker, I hope that I am the last speaker. [Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: We have missed the game now. But I can assure you that what the Government has seen today, they can expect, as we move forward, some very robust debates in this House of A ssembly. And we will endeavour to ensure that what we debate sticks to the issues, and that we will attempt not to get personal. But I can assure you, Mr. SpeakOfficial Hansard Report 16 N ovember 2018 113
Bermuda House of Assembly er, if it even hints of getting personal, I will be one of the first to get up, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member . We now recognise the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. PLP MANDATE Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Some comments just to conclude the night. It is late. It has been an interesting day. Certainly, the motion to adjourn was an …
Thank you, Honourable Member . We now recognise the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor.
PLP MANDATE Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Some comments just to conclude the night. It is late. It has been an interesting day. Certainly, the motion to adjourn was an interesting start. It started with perhaps a presentation that was focused on examination, though I am not sure that those who were being examined in the beginning were comfortable with that examination, because the examination act ually from the then Honourable Member was looking at some very interesting facts about the realities that exist for the members on the other side.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberIt started famously. Hon. Walter H. Roban: And it did start quite famously. And it is very interesting, Mr. Speaker. Because this is the first meeting of the House, to some degree, since a certain journey commenced and concluded on that side, very much in the public arena. So, it …
It started famously.
Hon. Walter H. Roban: And it did start quite famously. And it is very interesting, Mr. Speaker. Because this is the first meeting of the House, to some degree, since a certain journey commenced and concluded on that side, very much in the public arena. So, it is an interesting thing to see what we had been presented with, Mr. Speaker. And I made a comment prior to August. In fact, I made a comment in July of 2016 that the hope was that the then Government would be condemned to the dustbin of history. Well, certainly July 2017, we saw a lot of dust created. Now whether the final dus tbin will be made available perhaps is yet to be seen. But here we are started at, what? Twelve? Now they are at 11. So, they are closer to zero than they were a year ago. Anyway —
[Laughter]
Hon. Walter H. Roban: I will get back on track.
[Laughter and inaudible int erjections ]
Hon. Walter H. Roban: I will get back on track, Mr. Speaker. Because essentially the Opposition has a job to do; whether they are able to do that job or not as well as expected, I think the country is watching. And what we have seen . . . I am very proud and pleased with the presentations of Members on this side of the House this evening because they have made it clear to the country what the PLP will be focused on doing going forward. We have even had a very clear presentation on the philosophical grounding of why we do what we do. And that is because it is not that hard for us to do that as the Progressive Labour Party. Because that is how we are built; that is how we are designed. That is why we can come back from a 2012 and be where we are i n a 2018. Because we are built on a strong foundation of: principle, political philosophy, with a focus on empowerment, social justice, equality, elim ination of discrimination, creating opportunity for the citizens of this country. This past weekend we celebrated 20 years of what I would call relative success from 1998 to 2018. We spent many years struggling and working to meet the goal of 1998, and successively, elections after that. And there have been about five elections, I think, since 1998. One of them was lost. But in some cases that loss has made us stronger.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: In fact, arguably, I would say it has. Because we are historically the most succes sful political party this country has ever seen. We have come back with the largest majority ever seen by a party in this country. All right? The only other time …
Yes.
Hon. Walter H. Roban: In fact, arguably, I would say it has. Because we are historically the most succes sful political party this country has ever seen. We have come back with the largest majority ever seen by a party in this country. All right? The only other time this was done was by a party that was in Government. We came back from the Opposition and became the Government. We restored the confidence in the mandate of the people when those who had it lost it. Failed to deliver. Did not keep promises and betrayed the mandate they were given. What you heard from Members on this side this evening was the drive and the will to keep the promise that is laid out in the book that talks about a fairer and better Bermuda. That is the focus; that is the mission; that is the mandate, and the other presentation we had today will not deter that, because we generally feel that we are true to what we have been put here to do. And frankly , I still think those on that side, considering the soap opera that we saw over the r ecent months up until last week, still have a lot to sort out, to prove that they can be the Opposition that the country desires to have. Because we are a democr acy, the O pposition has a role to play. Whether they can deliver on that role, we will let the country decide, like the country decided on their destiny in July 2017. It will not be the PLP who decides what happens to the One Bermuda Alliance, or whomever they choos e to become in the future. It will be the people. And that is right. We will take care of our business. They are going to have to take care of theirs, and stop trying to blame us for whatever fai lures that they were not able to achieve. Because what we heard today (and some of what we heard, not only during the proper period, but also even in the motion to adjourn) was continuing to remind us of their r ationale for their failure. But this PLP perhaps understands that to a degree. But that does not mean that we are interested 114 16 November 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly in hearing it all the time either, because we have a mandate. The people have made it very clear to this party and this Government, what they desire to be delivered. And we will continue to deliver on that wonderful document that the Honourable Member who sits in constituency 27 put on the desk, and presented once again to this House, and that he carries rel igious ly on his byways in constituency 27 to educate and familiarise and give comfort to his voters as to what this party intends to do. I will leave it to the Opposition to figure out what they are going to do and what their message is because we are not responsible for whether they do well or whether they do not well. That will be their des-tiny to shape. In the meantime, we will build a fairer and better Bermuda. Like I said earlier, they can join us on the ride, or they can get off the bus and take another bus at another opportunity. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. No further Members wish to speak. The House stands adjourned until Friday next, the 23 rd of November at 10:00 am. [Gavel] [At 9:32 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 23 November 2018.]