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April 27, 2018

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Apr 27, 2018
Session 2017/2018
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Speakers 29
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418 speeches from 29 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. Welcome back. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 1 3 April 2018]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of the last sitting of the 13th of April have been circulated. Are there any amendments or omissions? No amendments or omissions; the Minutes have been confirmed. [Minutes of 13 April 2018 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker Members, I have actually received communi cation from two Members who have indica ted that they will be absent today: Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch, and also Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain. RESIGNATION OF MR. JEFF BARON , JP, MP
The Speaker The Speaker Also, Members, I would like to take this opportunity to indicate, as in accordance with the Bermuda Constitution, [ section ] 31(1)(b), that I have formally been informed of the resignation of the Member who used to sit in constituency 25. His resign ation, as you know, was effective the …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There is one, in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. ELECTRICIT Y (LICENCE THRESHOLD) REGULATIONS 2018 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Electricity ( …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker There are five Statements on the Order Paper. But the Premier would like to seek the indulgence of the House to add a sixth Statement. And, Premier, you can seek that indulgence. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I seek the indulgence of the House to giv e a Statement …
The Speaker The Speaker I understand. Members, agreement? Some H on. Members: Yes. Yes, sir. 1892 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. STANDARD AND POOR’S RATING ACTION Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning. I rise today to advise Honourable Members …
Mr. Speaker here are a few of the highlights Bermuda’s credit story is improving thanks to a return to positive real economic growth in 2017 and 2018. Standard and Poor’s also said that they view the continuation of prudent fiscal policy by the new Progressive Labou r Party G overnment as positive. [Desk thumping] Hon. E. David Burt: The …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The next Statement this morning is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. EMERGING SPACE ECONOMIES Hon. Walter H. Roban: Once again, good morning to the people of Bermuda. Honourable Members, last week I attended the 34 th Space Symposium, organi …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. The next Statement on the Order Paper is that in the name of the Honourable Minister Foggo. Honourable Minister, would you like to have the floor? 2018 UPDATE ON UNION NEGOTIATIONS Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to all. Mr. Speaker, I rise …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement is in the name of Minister Wilson. Minister Wilson, would you like to take the floor? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. The S peaker: Go right ahead. CELEBRATING LIFE WITH THE GIFT THAT KEEPS GIVING Hon. Kim N. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: And the answer is no . The first priority of the health care provider is to save a patient’s life. It is only when the medical team in the ICU have exhausted every option to save the patient’s life , and they have declared that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement is in the name of Minister Simmons. Minister Simmons, would you like to take the floor? Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. BEDC ENTERPRISE BERMUDA INCUBATOR PROGRAMME Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: I am pleased to report on an exceptional new measure taken to enhance the local entrepreneurial experience in Bermuda and pr ovide our Island’s rising business owners with greater tools for success. Earlier this month, the BEDC announced its …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The final Statement on the Order Paper for this morning is that in the name of the Minister of N ational Security. Minister Caines. TERMINATION OF THE GROUP VIOLE NCE INTERVENTION (GVI) INITIATIVE —EXPLANATION Hon. Wayne Caines: If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That brings us to a close of Ministerial Statements. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are no written questions. So the questions will come from the Statements that were given this morning. And we have two Members who have indicated they would like to put questions to r espective Ministers. The first question would be to the Deputy Premier, in the name of the …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Mr. Speaker, on page 5 of the Honourable Member’s Statement about his trip to Colorado [for the 35th] Space Sympos ium, he mentions that we will work towards (that is, the Government will work towards) developing the legal and regulatory framework needed for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Those activities, Mr. Speaker, are outlined in my Statement —orbital servicing, space mining. Some of the other things that I can add are lower -earth orbital satellite operations, not the geostationary orbital activities, but also lower orbital …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank yo u, Minister. Supplementary?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate the Honourable Member’s —
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Supplementary, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Continue on. SUPPLEMENTARY
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons I appreciate the Honourable Member’s response. He mentions, as he just did and in the Stat ement pursuing asteroid mining, a company called Planetary Resources. I am sure the Honourable Member is aware, bec ause it has come up in the House before, that Luxembourg has taken quite an aggressive …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you for the question, Mr. Speaker. All I will say is, in reference to Luxembourg, we had quite a big discussi on with the principals that we spoke to from Planetary Resources. And they gave us more detail as to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further questions? No further questions on this. We will move on to the next Statement on which a Member has indicated he had questions. And that Statement is for the Honourable Minister Foggo. You have questions from the Honourable Member from constituency 10. Honourable Member Dunkley, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Honourable Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: As the Member can apprec iate, I am sure, this Government made a public announcement in terms of things such as GEHI [Government Employee Health Insurance] contribution. But where we are able to homogenise across the unions, we are looking at …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further question or supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Continue on. 1900 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, in regard to harmonisation, the Mi nister was not specific. Have there been any successes in harmonisation? I fully appreciate that there is the potential in some areas that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I will say this: Remember that we have two unions where we still have not yet completed negotiations. So across the board we have not been able to address all of those issues. I will leave it like that.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further questions? New question or supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: New question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second question. QUESTION 2: 2018 UPDATE ON UNION NEG OTIATIONS Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker. In paragraph 3 on the first page, the Minister says that the Government has successfully negotiated four new agreements. There have been very sparse details of any of those agreements. Can the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Well, with respect to the fire services and BPSU [Bermuda Public Services Union], I think quite some time ago we made a Statement speaking to that, which based on what the mandate was, we were basically able to achieve the mandate. …
The Speaker The Speaker Another supplementary. Continue on. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes. Supplementary to the Honourable Minister: In regard to the four that have completed negotiations, has there been a set stand-ard wage increase across the board to each one of those four, and what is it?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Again, I can say that with at least two of those the set standard was 2.5 per cent across the board. That was articulated through our Premier t o all unions. And it was put out in the public domain. So, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The 2.5 per cent increase, is that retroactive to the same point for all unions and for the same period of time and duration?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: The 2.5 per cent was made retroactive to Apri l the 1 st, 2017. And again, that was already put out in the public domain.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. New question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Third question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3: 2018 UPDATE ON UNION NEGOTIATIONS Hon. Michael H. Dun kley: Mr. Speaker, in the fourth paragraph the Honourable Minister has said that the Prison Officers Association and the Bermuda Police Association agreements remain outstanding. Can the Honourable Minister provide a high- level overview of Bermuda House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: As I am sure the Member can appreciate the sensitivities associated with union negotiations . . . I would be foolhardy to respond to that question. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: On page 2, in the middle paragraph the Honourable Minister has said, “It is expected that the original team will conclude their cur-rent work in the coming weeks or upon conclusion of a negotiation with the Prison Officers Association.” So, does that mean that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: In principle. But they will be working up until May the 6 th.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkle y: Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Your second supplementary. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, sir. Mr. Speaker, is the Minister in a position to state why the original team will continue their negoti ations with the Prison Officers Associatio n and not the BPS?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: The original team is just handling outstanding matters. And when we deem it necessary for them to part, they will part. And the new team will take over.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That brings to a close those questions, unless another Member has a supplementary. No supplementary? The other question that is on the Order Paper for an answer, that a Member would like to ask a question, will be the Statement from Minister Caines. Minister Caines, you have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: The outstanding balance to be paid this year was, as stated, $200,000. So, math ematics, 370 . . . the outstanding was $200,000 for this year outstanding, left to pay. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, the 170 . . . are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question? New question? Continue. [Inaudible interjection] QUESTION 2: EXPLANATION OF THE TERMINATION OF THE GVI INITIATIVE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at the top of that page, the Ho nourable Minister says that the GVI model has had some success. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister. 1902 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne Caines: Can you rephrase the question? Is Pastor Bean a budgeted item? That just does not make sense, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You will rephrase it? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, certainly, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister states in this Stat ement that Pastor Bean was hired in the first 100 days. Was Pastor Bean hired as an unbudgeted item, for his payment? Hon. Wayne Caines: The answer is yes. It …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. SUPPLEMEN TARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary: Has the Minister hired any additional staff for this programme, or does the Mini ster anticipate hiring any additional staff for this pr ogramme or to support the Minister?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, when we came into the ministry there was a case manager who was in situ. The case manager’s position is still there; there is someone in that position. There was . . . (excuse me) a GVI case manager. There has been a case …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Just for clarification. So there is a case manager. The position is still filled, but with a different person? Hon. Wayne Caines: That is correct. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Is the Minister in a position to name the person? (Supplementary.) Hon. Wayne Caines: …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. All right. Further question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question. QUESTION 3: EXPLANATION OF THE TERMI NATION OF THE GVI INITIATIVE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, on page 2, the Minister refers in a bullet point to creating em-ployment opportunities for those who may have prev iously been deemed unemployable because of their past. Is the Minister …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Yes, Mr. Speaker. We will bring a Statement into the House as soon as it is practic able. But I will be happy to give an update. On that evening . . . subsequent to that evening, we had 35 jobs with people being …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. No further questions? That brings us to the end of the Question P eriod. We now move on. Bermuda House of Assembly ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Speaker The Speaker I see Members rising to their feet. And, Premier, I am going to ask a little indu lgence before I recognise you first, in that we have, sitting t o my left this morning, the President of the Senate. And it has been brought to my attention that today is …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Oh! Happy Birthday! [Desk thumping and cheering]
The Speaker The Speaker Aha! So, we would like to wish you a happy birthday on this day, Honourable President. Thank you for indulging us on your birthday. Now I acknowledge the Premier. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, good morning to you. It has been …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: To acknowledge the passing of Mr. Ira Philip, the former P LP Chairman, former Senator, one of Bermuda’s most profound journalists, au-thors, social commentators, photographers, and a legend of Bermuda. We extend our thoughts and prayers, again, to his family. And we would sincerely hope …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 32. Honourable Member Scott Simmons has the floor.
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask that I be associated with the comments made by the Premier as they relate to all congratulat ory, or the obituary, speeches thus far. I rise in this Honourable House, Mr. Speaker, and ask that we send heartfelt congratulations to three of our distinguished …
Mr. Scott Simm ons He has gained the praise, adm iration, and appreciation of the country and this House for his leadership in sports, broad smile, welcoming personality, and a true, genuine love for his country and his blessed St. George’s and the country at large. On behalf of all of us who sit …
Mr. Scott Simmons —we salute you as an invalu able part of the Progressive Government and a form idable PLP team. We thank you for choosing to be a part of this substantive change currently sweeping the Bermuda we love and cherish. In keeping with the sentiment expressed at your celebratory celebration, we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 31. Honourable Member Smith, you have the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, good morning.
Mr. Ben Smith I would like to have congratulations sent to both of Bermuda’s CARIFTA teams. First, our track and field team, specifically, Sakari Famous, who was able to get a bronze medal in the high jump. And Bermuda’s Swim ming Team came back with 32 medals, with specific accolades going to Logan …
Mr. Ben Smit h I would like to associate the whole House with those congratulatory remarks.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes.
Mr. Ben Smith Going on to our Commonwealth Games team, I would like to congratulate the entire team for representing Bermuda well, but specifically to Flora Duffy, who has added to her World Champion-ship the Commonwealth Games Gold Medal. As someone who was part of her coaching team up until the age of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your remarks. Any other Member? I recognise the Honourable Minister of Tourism. Honourable Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I would like, please, to be associated with all of the remarks that have preceded me. I rise today to …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: When I think about the sacrifice that she made, her husband taken from her in the night by the apartheid government, t hreatened repeatedly, arrested repeatedly, tortured, abused, beaten, well, we owe a lot to people who are prepared to put themselves on the front …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. I now recognise the Honourable Member Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to associate myself with the congratulatory remarks made to our succes sful sporting teams, as articulated by the Honourable Member Ben Smith. But, in particular, it does my heart proud, I am bursting with pride that the 11 gold medals that …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin And I will ever r emember and appreciate —
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, Members.
Mrs. Patrici a J. Gordon -Pamplin I wi ll ever reme mber and appreciat e those words of encouragement that I got f rom I ra Philip. And I c ertainly would wish condolences be s ent to his family. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Deputy Premier. Honourable Deputy, you have the floor. Ho n. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to be associated with the condolences and congratulatory remarks already given. But I would like to give perhaps an additional word of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 7. The Honourable Member Richards, you have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences given to the son of Mr. Arliss [Robert] and Arian Francis, a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any other Member? I recognise the Honourable Minister of Sport. Honourable Member Weeks, you have the floor. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. I would like to start off my remarks by assoc iating myself with the remar ks of our Honourable Premier, …
The Speaker The Speaker Oh! Minister, you can save the rest for next week. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Oh, man! How much is that, two minutes, Mr. Speaker? [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Honourable Member Commissiong. Honourable Member Commissiong.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank y ou. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the heartfelt tribute and condolences as expressed by the Premier to the respective families and the countries which they fought so hard to engender progress in. That would be toward Mother of the …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Where they would have had all five trophies. But they did take four. It was extraordinary, Mr. Speaker, and they need to be commended. It is just so unfortunate that what turned out to be a sort of minor fracas on Reid Street that night — no one is saying …
The Speaker The Speaker You can add those comments to your motion to adjourn. [Crosstalk]
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you so much.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I recognise the Deputy Speaker, the Honourable Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I guess I am going to have to change my seat so I can be recognised. [Laughter] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Because I have been up so many times that, …
The Speaker The Speaker The Speaker had a blind spot over there this morning. Now, my apologies to you, Deputy, but I know you are still young enough to keep jumping up. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I will get some lights installed in this corner. [Laughter] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: But, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. I recognise the Honourable Member, Mr S imons. Honourable Member Cole Simons, you have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to associate myself with a few comments that have already been made. First, I would like to associate myself with the comments made in regard to Ms. Winnie Mandela and her contributions to the development of the South Africa that …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear!
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons In addition, I would like to send condolences to the family of Ms. Dorothea Tucker, from Somerset. She was a union activist, committed to Bermuda, committed to social justice, Bermuda House of Assembly and committed to her family and the people of Smith’s Parish in Somerset. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I now recognise the Minister for Government Reform. Honourable Mem ber Foggo, you have the floor. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to be associated with the remarks for Ira Philip, a gentle giant indeed. And I can say, in his later years, …
The Speaker The Speaker Right. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I am talking more so when he used to . . . yes, sorry —Dorothy Crane facility. I am talking more so when he used to come on visits often with his son, who sits here. I think St. George’s became his favourite place.
The Speaker The Speaker Well . . . Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: I want to say that because every time I looked, he was down there. And I also just want to acknowledge the fact that he was a friend of my family. And his contribution to this Island was phenomenal. And so, he …
The Speaker The Speaker You have been up for three minutes. Minister, you can save the rest of that for next week. [Crosstalk] Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Allowed them to go overseas! [Laughter] Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Would any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member, Mr. Moniz. Honourable Member Moniz, you have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I rise to ask to be associated with the condolences to the fam ily of Ira …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, I thank you. Mr. Speaker, the symmetry of our condolences have been focused around two persons, I have noticed— in particular , Mr. Philip, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker That is your time, Honourable Member. Hon. M ichael J. Scott: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker And thank you for your contribution. You can add the rest next week. I recognise the Honourable Opposition Leader. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I would like to have condolences sent to the family of the late Mar-ion Edith Tatem. Marion Tatem had the distinction of being the mother of seven children, one of whom was Judy Powell Benevides. And Judy, for a lot of you …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 1. Honourable Member Ming.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker and listening audience. I would like to, first of all, be associated with the kind remarks for Mr. Ira Philip, whom I got to know personally through the African Diaspora Heritage Trail; and also, for Winnie Mandela, because, being a woman, she was truly one of …
Mrs. Renee Ming And also MP Gordon- Pamplin. She celebrates tomorrow. It is her 67th birthday. So, if you can, just reach out and say happy birthday to her. But I wanted to make sure it was done on this f loor in this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the other St. George’s Member down in the corner on the opposite side. Honourable Member Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. I will try to make this within my three minutes. But I would like to start off on a very happy note by sending congratulations to my cousins Chester and F ay Wilkinson of Ferry Road, celebrating 65 years, their 65 th anniversary. …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —for their good work to put on that event. And I am sure MP Foggo and MP Ming will be associated with that. I would like to associate myself with the co ndolences offered to the fami ly of Ms. Cora Burchall, Ms. Eunice Butterfield, on their passing. Certainly, some …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 22. Honourable Member Gibbons, you have the floor.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would like to be associated with the condolences to the family of the late Ira Philip. As a number of Honourable Members have already said, I always found him to be a real gentl eman. And I think it is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 4. Honourable Member Furbert, you have the floor.
Mrs. Tinee Furbert Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also would just like to be ass ociated with the condolences for Mr. Ira Philip. I did not get to know him closely, as some of our other Members did. But I would like to share that he definitely made sure that I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other . . . I recognise the Honourable Member Tyrrell. Honourable Member Tyrrell, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrre ll Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, it would certainly have been r emiss of me not to take advantage of this opportunity to associate myself with the condolences for two men who have had an impact on my life. The first one, Brother Ira Philip, as I kne w him, and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 20. Honourable Member Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to stand and, on a sad note, send condolences to the family of Wayne Jackson, who lost his life and has passed on. I would like to associate the entire House. And I would certainly like to send warm messages to his children, Alisa, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to speak? No other? Mr. Famous. You are normally a li ttle quicker on your feet, you know. You slowed down that time. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 11, Honourable Member Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to the listening public. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start off by giving condolences to the family of Ms. Marina Ottley , who lived to 105 years old. I would like to give birthday greetings to the “ Big Mama of Green …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Spe aker, I do not know how to put this. Two months ago, I visited a gentl eman down at Dorothy Crane. And in speaking with him, he said to me, Famous, young Famous, he said, A luta continua. The struggle continues. Essentially, he said, Don’t let the fact …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I thought we w ere coming to a close. I reco gnise the Honourable Member from constituency 10. Honourable Member Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Maybe in three minutes, we will. Mr. Speaker, I ask to be associated with the most fitting …
The Speaker The Speaker Hear, hear! Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It was an outstanding turnout, and the organisers need to be congratulated. I would like to join in the congratulations by my honourable colleague, Ben Smith, to all of our at hletes, and specifically to Flora Duffy on the Commonwealth Gold. But, Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I think that brings us to a close of condolences and congratulations. But before we move on, I would just like to add my name to a couple of comments, particularly that to the Philip family. As much has been said, and it is true, that …
The Speaker The Speaker But, before we move on, I would also like to acknowledge i n the Gallery a former Member. Bermuda House of Assembly The Honourable Member, Mr. Walter Lister, is visiting us today in the Gallery; and also, the Senator Ha yward was here earlier, and I would like to thank …
The Speaker The Speaker We did [announce] the Senator earlier this morning; we gave her birthday wishes earlier. Yes. And, yes, the former Deputy Speaker, I should have acknowledged as well. That is right. He sat in these chairs in his tenure.
Madam Clerk. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOUR NMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker I believe we have three Bills to be i ntroduced today. And I will recognise the Deputy Premier, who is going to i ntroduce the Bill on behalf of the Premier. FIRST READINGS PUBLIC SERVICE SUPERANNUATION AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. The next Bill is in the name of the Minister of Education, who is not present today. So, Minister Foggo, w ould you want to intr oduce it for him? DEPARTMENT OF LIBRARIES AND ARCHIVES (AMALGAMATION ) ACT 2018 Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Yes, thank you, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker The last Bill to be introduced is that in the name of the Honourable Minister Wilson. Honourable Member. EVIDENCE (AUDIO VISUAL LINK) ACT 2018 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. Honourable Members, thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker We are now at the Orders of the Day. With the indulgence of the House, Order No. 2 is g oing to be done first. And we will do Order No. 1 afterwards, which will be the more substantive matter. The Honourable Junior Minister, will you do Order No. 2? …
The Speaker The Speaker So moved. 1916 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I do not know if we will be finished before lunch, but we will see how it goes.
The Speaker The Speaker Take your time. BILL SECOND READING COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the Bill now before the House is the Companies Amendment Act 2018. The Bill relates to the filing of specified compa-ny bye -law information with the Registrar of Companies [ROC] . Mr. Speaker, Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. I recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Mr. Speaker, as the Member has said, this is just in keeping with all of the housekeeping work that we are doing in respect of the CFATF review and continuing under the requirements to be transparent. The bye-laws of a company are generally …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Oh, okay. All right. That is all I have to say about it then. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognis e the Honourable Leader of the O pposition. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. Just a couple of questions. And in keeping with my colleague, we understand that some …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Honourable Member. Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will answer some of those questions in C ommittee stage. So right now, I move that the Bill be committ ed.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? That is it. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. We will go to C ommittee. We will go to Committee. We will go to C ommittee. No, no, you are fine. Deputy. House in Committee at 12:24 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2018
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Companies Amendment Act 2018 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move all clauses if you are fine with that.
The Chairman Chairman Clauses 1 through—? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Clauses 1 through 4.
The Chairman Chairman Clauses 1 through 4. Any objection to moving clauses 1 through 4? There appear to be none; continue. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, the explanation regarding the Bill as far as . . . let me give an overview of the order [sic]. The Companies Act 2018 amends the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Junior Mini ster, Mr. Furbert. Any further speakers? 1918 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair recognises the Honourable Member, the Deputy Leader of the Opposition, Leah Scott. You have the floor.
Ms. L eah K. Scott Thank you. Just going back to my questions. One, what benefit is [there in] obtaining the i nformation requested from section 13(2)(a), (e) and (f) of the Act? Two, is there going to be a prescribed form for the submission of this information? Is there going to be a filing …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat Gordon- Pamplin.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I wonder if the Junior Minister could respond. Given the indication that this is a retr ospective, effective retrospective or retroactive Bill, the existing companies —will there be some oversight coming from the Registrar to let companies know that this is coming into effect …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Junior Minister, do you want to reply? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, we are all aware about the assessment this year. And there were certain requirements that NAMLC required. This Government believes [we were] very much involved in consulting with the …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Is there going to be a—
The Chairman Chairman Ah, ah.
The Chairman Chairman That is all right. The Chair recognises the . . .Take to your feet, cousin.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank y ou.
The Chairman Chairman I recognise the Honourable Member Leah Scott.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you. If there is going to be a prescribed form, or do we just submit a pr écis from our bye- laws, or how is it going to be filed?
The Chairman Chairman Okay, cousin. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I mean, there is some information that companies have to file right now. And so, we will update that form and be all -inclusive at the same time.
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions? Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat Gordon- Pamplin.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Yes, just for clar ity. Is the Junior Minister indicating that the onus will be on the legal representatives, the registered offices of the companies to ensure that they, the companies, are in compliance within the six-month period of time? It is just important, because there are some companies that, …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Leah Scott.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And just, the other question I had was whet her or not this is going to be an annual filing or is it a filing just at the time that there are any changes to either the quorum requirements or the secretarial duties?
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, this is not the first time that we have ever asked companies to make changes. And whatever the process that we have done in the past to ensure that those individuals who have law firms, corporate service providers, et cetera, et cetera, et …
The Chairman Chairman One s econd. It is lunchtime. Do you want to finish this? I do not mind finishing this.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The Honourable Member had asked—
Ms. Leah K. Scott Annual filing? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. It is a one- time filing. Any amendments will be done at that time.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. And if you would just indulge me just as a point of information, and I appreciate what you are saying about the Registrar trying to get information out to everybody. The challenge, sometim es, though, is you have local companies that do not have a proper ad-ministrator for them. …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Member. Y our concerns are noted. 1920 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister, do you want to move this Bill to be approved? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to the approval of clauses 1 through 4? There appear to be none; continue. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 4 passed.] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to the preamble being approved? There appear to be none; continue. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move that the Bill be r eported to the House, as printed. The Chair man: It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House, as printed. Are there any …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, is there any objection to the Bill being reported to the House as printed? No objections; so reported. We now recognise the Honourable Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I move that we adjourn for lunch until 2:07. Is that appropria …
The Speaker The Speaker Two, 2:00 pm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, there was a little bit more taken for business. I am trying to give our Members . . .
The Speaker The Speaker Do you all need a little extra time? You have big sandwiches to eat? Okay. We will give you until 2:15. We will give you until 2:15. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am trying to appeal on behalf of all Members of the House, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We will give you until 2:15. I do not want you to race your lunch and come back with upset stomachs. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The House now stands adjourned until 2:15. Proceedings suspended at 12:38 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:16 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] ORDERS OF THE DAY [Conti nuation thereof]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. We will now resume with the Orders of the Day. We have already commenced with the matter that we started with, which was the Companies Amendment Act 2018. We are now going to move on to the second item for the day . . . [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Now we can resume. Let me go back to where I started. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. As I indicated, we completed the earlier O rder, which was the Companies Amendment Act 2018. We are now going to mov e on to the second item for today’s sitting, which is the Companies and Limited Liability Company (Initial Coin Offering) Amendment Act 2018. And the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, before I begin my substantive remarks on this particular Bill, I would like to, of course, acknowledge for the House and for the listening public the historic agreement that was just signed earlier today with the c ompany …
The Speaker The Speaker While you are getting yourself together, I will take the moment to welcome them to our Chambers. Good afternoon to you. Welcome to Bermuda and to our parliamentary Chambers and I trust that you will find the parliamentary proceedings enlighte ning. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes! Yes! [Desk thumping] Hon. E. David Burt: —for his unwavering support and leadership on this initiative. There is much more to be done, but we will continue to push forward with this initiative because we believe in the vision of what we can do for the people of this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Leader of the O pposition. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I think I want to say right from the get -go that we understand, as the Premier and …
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order, Mini ster. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Wayne Caines: There has been absolutely no mention of bitcoin. The Member is misleading the 1924 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly House. There has been absolutely no mention of bitcoin. [Crosstalk] …
The Speaker The Speaker Uh-huh. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: —I am reading, “In particular, cryptocurrencies, such as bitcoin, have provi ded alternative and an alternate means of payment for goods and services thereby establishing a new [age] digital [bartering] system.” Okay? [Desk thumping] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So all I am just mentioning is …
The Speaker The Speaker I would advise you to continue on only on the fact that once a subject has been introduced, it is on the table. And it was introduced by the Premier in his Statement, whether he was saying it as a sliding glance, it was introduced. So it is on the …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! I am not entertaining this. I am not entertaining this. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: How blockchain can be used. Okay?
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So what I want to say is the fact that if we talk about . . . the Premier was tal king about the first step of building this new ecosystem and providing positive results. He indicated that the enhancement of legislating, of governing …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So we will be looking to see how many jobs that the Minister thinks will come as associated with this new ICO offering. We will also be intrigued to see how the rev enues are going to be generated. Now, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Members. Members. Members, you will have your turn. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker You will have your turn, Members. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I think what I am trying to say is that I am not trying to get into the who- brought -it-up game.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: What I am trying to say is that when Bermuda gets into new industries, and if we are going to make this the third pillar as the Gover nment wants, we still have to make sure of all the other things that …
The Speaker The Speaker You still have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am sorry. I was trying to listen to you, but when you hear all of that —
The Speaker The Speaker No, you still have the floor. You are all right. Go ahead. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So I just wanted to say that I know that there are a couple of questions that we are going to have during the actual Bill itself. But as I say, we know why …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go ahead. Continue on. Hon. Wayne Caines: Sometimes you are in a pos ition, Mr. Speaker, where you can be a part of som ething great, where you can watch it from its genesis, where you can understand the impact that it will have, that you can look in …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Wayne Caines: In July of this year this country in a unanimous fashion elected this Government to lead—last year. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Point of clarification. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Ms. Leah K. Scott It was July of last year, not this year. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker We needed a little humour that time, but continue on. We got our humour. You can conti nue no w. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I am almost 50 years old. You know what happens when you start raising in age. [Laughter] Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, the opportunity has …
The Speaker The Speaker You sound like a sailor. Hon. Wayne Caines: Well, I am not. I am from Back o’ Town, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker All right. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ] Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne Caines: Well, stay focused, stay f ocused.
The Speaker The Speaker Stay focused, yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: We then had the opportunity in the middle of the 18 th century when things were not as opportunistic on the water, as it were, we started to go into the agrarian elements in our country and we went to tobacco, lilies. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Did you tell her how much fun— [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker You assured her that you picked them for her, right? Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I am not one to tell lies. [Laughter] Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, and the onion. So we have always had to be innovative to survive. And so from our sailing past of the Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker You must have looked healthier when you came back, see. Hon. Wayne Caines: Absolutely.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Hon. Wayne Caines: And so the reality around it is, Mr. Speaker, that the elements are in place to protect the country. We have focused on the AML, the KYC pieces, and we want to have our feet held to the fire. Let’s just talk about the collaborative …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Point of clarification.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we will yield, Minister. Go ahead, Member. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Ms. Leah K. Scott Leila Medeiros is not in the trust industry. I believe she is in insurance and reinsurance. [Crosstalk] Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, she did not appear in behalf of that. I will get clarification from one of my colleagues and I will come back at a later minute just to …
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to reserve my comment. How is that? I was going to say something, but I will hold my tongue. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker , the ICO part is simply . . . because people get lost in the nomencl ature. The ICO part is simply a way where you can raise money to finance the project that you are on. And we are simply saying, Guess …
The Speaker The Speaker You’re g ood. Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker You have not used up your half an hour yet. You have got about another 10 minutes, or . . . Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the object of this entire endeavour is to create an ecosystem. The ecosystem will start when a person has a …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: The blockchain technology, Mr. Speaker, is revolutionary. You can say what you want about i t having a lack of discipline. And in some areas, yes, it does. But guess what the Bermuda standard will do, Mr. Speaker. The Bermuda standard will reg ulate. It will …
The Speaker The Speaker You had two minutes left, you know. All right. We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 22. Honourable Member Gibbons, you have the floor.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, let me first of all start by saying that we actually had a productive session yesterday. And I thank the Honourable Member, Minister Caines, for hosting a number of us with technical officers. It was about 90 minutes, and I think it was helpful …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Sorry? Oh, five minutes. Thank you. So, what I found encouraging was the BMA have taken a more rigorous and robust approach in their draft Virtual Currency Act. And there is a very sharp contrast between where the Government is in their approach and where the BMA is. There are …
The Speaker The Speaker Point taken.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, Mr. Speaker, I have no interests —
The Speaker The Speaker You did indicate you had some knowledge of what is going on in Cayman.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons I do. I have no interests in Cayman Enterprise City. The only interests I have in Cayman are insurance companies there. Hon. Wayne Caines: Then declare it.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Okay. So, those have very littl e relevance here. I am not promoting Cayman; all I am saying is that I think it is an interesting parallel in many respects. But what I think is more interesting is that these companies have very little presence there. Most of the work …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Mich ael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, my contribution to the general discussion of the ICO Bill will focus on giving back to Bermuda …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imput ing improper motives]
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, sir. The Honourable Member is imputing improper motive. I think that is most inappropriate at this time. Bermuda House of Assembly The Honourable Member is not being dinosaur -ish; I believe that the Member has taken very careful pains to be able to articulate the concerns that have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Member, just be careful of the guidelines so you do not impute any unnecessary comments t owards any Member. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank you. I am grateful for your guidance. Dinosaurism is a metaphor for following something that is fairly ancient. It is …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Mr. Speaker, honestly —
The Speaker The Speaker Mr., M r., Mr. —
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons —you know . . . if he wants to throw out bait he is —
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. . . . I will take care of it. I will take care of it.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons —done it very effectiv ely.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, we ar e trying to keep a tone that does not get us down into a lower level. I think this debate today, the matter that is before us, is a very serious matter, it is a great turn for the country, it is a high road for …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Michael J. Scott: —and this House is the place for me to do just that.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading and imputing improper motives ]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons The Honourable Member is certainl y misleading the House. He is imputing i mproper motives. I said nothing about the management of the trust or insurance sector under the current Go vernment. Hon. Michael J. Scott: That was ridiculous. I am tal king about the standard, about the administrati on …
The Speaker The Speaker Member! Hon. Michael J. Scott: —standard.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, Member, let me help . . . ah, ah, ah . . . Member, let me help you out. I think you have a good contribution to make. Let’s move on to the real gist of what your contribution can be, and not get distracted with this line of …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you have every right to make your point. And I agree with that. But let’s not try and get it into a level that is lower than what the debate requires at this point. Hon. Michael J. Scott: And so the standard of Bermuda in this space of our …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin The Honourable Member is misleading the House. The reference that the Honourable Member made in terms of buyer beware was a term that was introduced in the consult ation session yesterday by the Minister, that the Government’s approach was that of caveat emptor . So that is the reference. Hon. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Meeting. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Meeting (exactly) . . . meeting with the executive of this country. There is something special about it. And what I find most heartening about it, and I am grateful that the Minister of Finance and Minister Caines, the National Security Minister, were kind enough …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Half. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Half? (It is the Mincy Report, I am being advised.) Everybody in the room was attentive to this information. All of us were Bermudian, including Mr. Stuart Lacey, who was there, and we were attentive and knew of this. And we all with one accord …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, you have got about 40 seconds left. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael J. Scott: Oh, well, then, Mr. Speaker, there is a sandbox that Ms. Dickens developed. Pla yers were on board into the sandbox. They will operate in it. Once they have operated and shown that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your presentation. Does any ot her Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Deputy Oppos ition Leader. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have to admit that I am a blockhead when it comes to blockchain. So, first of all, I would like to thank Ms. Lydia Dickens for taking my telephone call last night to go through the amendments to the legislation with me, and …
Ms. Leah K. Scott And I still do not get it. So I am not going to speak long. I am going to speak shorter than my customary three minutes, be-cause this is something that I know absolutely nothing about, other than in terms of the legislation and how I feel the legislation is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. 1942 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourabl e Member Gordon-Pamplin.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin I just assumed that we would have a Member from the Government stand so that this debate did not . . .
The Speaker The Speaker You can take advantage of their slow movement. You jumped quick. I will acknowl edge you. You have the floor.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. It gives me pleasure to be able to contribute to this debate. We had the opportunity yesterday, and we were very appreciative of it, to have a roundtable with th e Minister and the technical officers in which the intent of the Government and the …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin So, that is the level of risk —
The Speaker The Speaker These young ones do not know about those things.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin They do not u nderstand that. They are from a different worl d.
The Speaker The Speaker No. They do not know about that.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin The Honourable Member does not even know what a sixpence is. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin But that is the kind of risk avers ion that people may have. As the Minister indicated that the whole concept of virtual currencies is a caveat emptor environment, it effectively is saying that, you know, everybody is not going to want to op1944 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Exactly. You either are or you ain’t! [Laughter]
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin So, in this env ironment there are those who would want to say, I want to try this. But I will reserve this. We just want to make sure that the protections are there. And I know that that will come under the Virtual Currency Bus iness Act, at that …
The Speaker The Speaker Have some water. Take your time.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: So, the idea of public consultation and putti ng a consultative doc ument on the BMA website inviting comment is not just prudent, it is the way the BMA operates. And it is through that process that Bermuda at the moment actually enjoys Solvency …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gord on-Pamplin It is because you have to let people know what it is that you are attempt ing to do, what it is that you have in mind and how can we enhance this so that, once the final product is completed, then you know that what you have got is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak to this? No other Honourable M ember? We recognise the Honourable Member Co mmissiong. Honourable Member Commission, from constituency 21, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is a great day for Bermuda! I mean, the opinion received by Standard & Poor’s, u pgrading Bermuda’s rating, followed by the news that we got as per the press conference a little while ago, Mr. Speaker, with the Premier concerning the MOU …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong I said then, or wrote, “The ancient Greeks had two words to denote time. Chronos, which speaks to the steady drumbeat of mundane time, the artificial passing of seconds, minutes, hours, days, months, and years, ad infinitum onto seeming eternity —time as defined by man. And then there is kairos, …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Look at what has happened now, Mr. Speaker. Milton Friedman. This is a historic first for Bermuda, but not only for Bermuda, for the world. And I am sure that we are prepared to take ad-vantage of it. Mr. S peaker, I hear d of t he H onourable Mini …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear!
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong And she is now going to play a frontline role in that private sector company. That is what we are talking about. Okay? So people ask, What’s in this for Bermudians? And what they are saying in coded language is, What’s in it for black Bermudians? Keep your eye on …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Okay. Tell us.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong So, I just want to say this, Mr. Speaker. We want a collaborative relationship with these cutting- edge innovators from wherever they come. We are not going to discriminate against them; but they must understand that we are doing business the new way, that we are looking for companies that …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Probably less. We have heard from both the Premier and the Minister of N ational Security that, at least in the short term, that is where the desperate need is. So, we have a course that, perhaps in 11, 12, or 9 months, we can get them at least level …
The Speaker The Speaker You’ve got seven minutes.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Oh, I have got a little time. I have got a little time. [Inaudible interjecti on]
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong No, I know I do not. I do not. Now, Mr. Speaker, I talked about the potential this has in a very real way for jobs, for training, for education. But let me say this. One of the biggest fai lures in the previous PLP Government, not theirs alone, between …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong They are still here? This is the power, the potential power of blockchain. Mr. Speaker, if I may, again this is quoting from Bloomberg, an article written by Kyunghee Park . And again, it was in Bloomberg. And I will just give a couple of excerpts: “Globalization has brought the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Honourable Member wishes to speak. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank Honourable Members for their comments. And I would like t o thank the Opposition for their tacit su pport …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes Hon. E. David Burt: In 20 years, Mr. Speaker, we may not know what that looks like. But this Gover nment is determined to make sure that as this new i ndustry develops Bermuda is able to play a part. Now I hear, Mr. Speaker, the concerns. And I …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Companies and Limited Liability Company (Initial Coin Offer ing) Amendment Act 2018 . Mr. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to moving clauses 1 through 3? No objections. Continue, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. As was indicated in the general debate, there are without question amendments —a number of amendments to clauses 4, 11, and 14, which I believe have been …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers on clauses 1 through 3? There appear to be none. Premier, continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to approving clauses 1 through 3? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will now move on to clause 4, and I am going to read through . . …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourab le Leah Scott.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you and, first of all, the Premier was not in the Chamber when I spoke. 1952 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Sir, I would like to say thank you for providing me with your brief. I appreciate it and for accomm odating our request …
The Chairman Chairman Any f urther speakers? Mr. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: I do not need to answer the question. I will answer when everyone is finished.
The Chairman Chairman Oh, you want . . . you had questions? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Grant Gi bbons.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman, I was trying to make it easier for the Premier by sort of doing this one at a time. The question I have actually is on page 3 of — this is the tabled document —I think it is probably pretty close. Let us see …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier? Oh, yes? Go ahead.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes, sorr y, Mr. Chairman, I just have one more question. Just the definition of “Initial Coin Offering,” the words . . . what does “otherwise acquire digital assets” mean? Or what are you trying to catch by adding those additional words?
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Honourable Cole Ha dley Simons.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons [Clause 4, new section] 34B(2) says, “It is not necessary to file an ICO offer document under subsection (1), at any time or in any circumstances, where — [(a)] the digital assets are listed on an appointed stock exchange— POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. E. David Burt: Point of clarification, please. …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons [Section] 34B(2). So basica lly, it is saying the offering document is not required if the assets are listed on an appointed stock exchange or appointed digital asset exchange. Can you define what an “appointed stock exchange” is? [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman You have the floor, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I will begin to start to answer the questions. The first question that was asked was from the Honourable Deputy Leader of the Opposition who asked a question regarding something about iTunes cards or …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have, like, about six more questions. Do you want me to just do them all at once? Or — Hon. E. David Burt: Go ahead— on thi s clause?
Ms. Leah K. Scott Pardon me? Hon. E. David Burt: On this clause?
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes—all the way through. Okay, thank you. So, I am working from my original draft. On section 34A(4)(a) — Hon. E. David Burt: [Section] 34A . . .
Ms. Leah K. Scott [Section] 34A(4)(a) —that is the one that starts “Subsection 2 shall not . . .”
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. What does “of the same class” mean in relation to digital assets? Could I avoid the legislation by giving away one token of insignificant value to anyone who visits a certain website, like a cookie, and then when that person visits the offering site to buy tokens they already …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Stop there? Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: While I wait for some answers to the questions. While I wait for some answers to questions, allow me to go on the second question which was 1954 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly posed by the Honourable Member …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. [Section] 34C(1), the “Co ntents of an ICO [offer] document.” Just in terms of the information that is required, why is there no request for or no requirement for any financial information to be provided? [Subsections] (a) and (b) refer to the promoters, but (c) refers to the company. …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. So, 34C and the subsections (a) and (b) make reference to promoters. But subsection 34C[(1)(c) refers to the company. So, should subsections (a) and (b) also include a reference to the company? And then in 34B(5) — [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Leah K. Scott [Section] 34B(5) . . . oh, wait, I think I— [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Oh, wait . . . I was talking about 34C, but 34C . . . it is still 34 . . . still 34B? Or 34C? [It is] 34B. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Leah K. Scott So, wait . . . let me see— [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Wait. 34B(5) —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Page 5.
Ms. Leah K. Scott I am on page 4.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Okay, so 34B. Hon. E. David Burt: If I may, Mr. Chairman . . . can I answer the two questions that are posed? And then I can—
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: —allow these particular items. The first question was in regard to whether or not subsections (a) and (b) of 34C(1) should have the company reference in them. The answer to the question is no. The reason why it is the regi stered office or principal …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. I am on page 4 and I will try and stick to the red-lined version. It is 34A(4)(b)(ii) . This is the section which basic ally exempts as being made to the public if in this particular case, in the case an exempted company or …
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions? Mr. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: I will try to tackle those two. The first one in the reordered section that the Honourable Member raised regarding permit companies, the question he raised is an interesting one and one which I will take under advisement and further review. …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Honourable Grant Gibbons.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, thank you, and I appreciate the Premier’s answer there. Having done a couple of prospectuses myself, I think one of the reasons I am raising that on the use of funds is because certainly we know the funds will be going to develop the product or whatever else. O …
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions? The Chair recognises the Honourable Leah Scott.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Moving on to 34E — [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Oh, sorry. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, if the Opposition would please work with me and if we can go section 1956 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly by section. Just so . . . so, I think we are now on and we are …
The Chairman Chairman Any further questions? The Chair recognises Leah Scott, Honourable Member . [Inaudi ble interjection]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Original, thank you. Sorry about that. So, section 34D, companies offering digital assets to the public, and section 34D(1)(a) says “pu blish supplementary particulars disclosing the material changes.” What is published? It is published in the official Gazette ? Can you stick it on the website? Can you walk around …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: I am good, but I am not that good right now. On 34D the question about, she said, publish and what does publish mean? I do not believe there is a necessary definition of publish, but I think there is probably a common law …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes. Okay, I got that one. Let m e just get your second question. The second question says should we use the word “pr omoters” in addition to directors, and in this case, we are talking about the company specifically. Companies do not have promoters. …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Just going back to the publish, usually in the Companies Act if you are going to publish something it will say it should be published in the official Gazette . So, I guess that is my question . Does it have to be published in an official Gazette , …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: (It is the same answer I gave before?) I am being advised by the technical officers that it is the same answer that I gave before regarding that publish is a common law . . . there is just understanding . . . publish, …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Member? Continue. Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Leah K. Scott: Thank you. Moving on to section 34F. Hon. E. Da vid Burt: Original?
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes, original. No, sorry, 34E original. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay, got you.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. In the title you refer to “cooling- off rights,” and that seems to be related to the application under 34E(2). What is an application? And then 34E(3) refers to the withdrawal of an application pursuant to subsection (1), but subsection (1) does not talk about an application. And then …
Ms. Leah K. Scott [It is] 34D. Hon. E. David Burt: I thought we moved past 34D. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. D avid Burt: She just said 34E.
The Chairman Chairman E. We finished D. [Crosstalk ] Hon. E. David Burt: Okay, got it. So, you are on the original. One more time, please?
Ms. Leah K. Scott Sorry, 34E. Okay. 34— [Inaudible interjection]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes, right. 34E refers to “coolingoff rights” and these cooling- off rights, I guess, pertain to an application in 34E(2), which says, “If a person in relation to an Initial Coin Offering makes an applic ation pursuant to the Initial Coin Offering, the person may withdraw the application within three …
The Chairman Chairman Any objection to approving that change from subsection (1) to [subsection] (2)? The Chair recognises Pat Gordon- Pamplin .
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, it is just that the Premier has just created a little bit of confusion now, becaus e under the revised version the new 34F —which was the old 34E —they have actually inserted through the ICO platform, and (c) . . . sorry, clause …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Mr. Prem ier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much. That is section 34E on the original. I am happy to take more questions.
Ms. Leah K. Scott On 34E(1)(a), would you consider adding the words “and any supplementary particulars” after the words “offer document”, just because it is kind of a catch- all phrase. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, we are not i nclined to make that change at this time. But I am sure the …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think we are almost done. So, 34G talks about the identification of persons in relation to the ICO, and “[( 1)] A company shall, in relation to an Initial Coin Offering, ensure that it applies appropriate measures relating to identification and verification of persons …
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Premier. I just have one more question. Oh, thank you, Mr. Chai rman, sorry.
The Chairman Chairman That is all right. That is fine.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay, it is on page 22 of the original, consequential amendments. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Page 22 of the original document . . . clause 15, Consequential amendments: general. [Inaudible interjections] The Deputy Clerk: Yes, we are still on clause —
Ms. Leah K. Scott Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. This is a very extensive set of amendments to clause 4. I appreciate the indulgence of the Oppos ition for these amendments and with that we have di scussed . . . the Opposition, I believ e, is satisfied …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to clause 4 being approved, as amended? [Motion carried: Clause 4 passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will now move on to, if I may, clauses 5 through 10.
The Chairman Chairman [Clauses] 5 through 10. Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Clause 5 inserts a new Part (oh, dear —I am just going to call it) XI VC into the Companies Act relating to the establishment of a FinTech Advisory Committee. Clause 6 amends section 287A …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Grant Gibbons.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Chai rman, just a couple of questions. I am going to start with clause 5, which is the FinTech Advisory Committee. I think we are under the understanding that, obviously, the function here is fai rly broad—advise the Minister in any matter relating to FinTech or the …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Mr. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in regard to the question from the Honourable Member on the first issue— yes, the FinTech Advisory Committee will be the group that will be the ones that are reviewing those items and to be …
The Chairman Chairman Any further . . . the Chair recognises the Honourable Leah Scott. 1960 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Leah K. Scott: I just have one. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Sorry —
The Chairman Chairman Continue.
Ms. Leah K. Scott I jus t have one question, Mr. Premier, and just please indulge me. So, the amendment to change the regulation procedure for the entire Companies Act is now going to be from affirmative to negative resolution? Hmmm. Okay. [Inaudible interjections] The Chair man: The Chair recognises the Honourable Pat Gordon …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in light of the Premier’s r esponse in terms of the question from the Honourable Member from [constituency] 22 on section 272F, the FinTech Advisory Committee, since part of their functions will have the responsibility for vetting the applic ation process for ICOs, might …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Honourable Deputy . . . the Leader of the Opposition, Ms. Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman, in respect to the statement that the Premier just made that he was changing . . . I am talking about the amendment to section 287A, and turning …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to the approval of clauses 5 through 10? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 5 through 10 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Carry on. AMENDMENTS TO CLAUSE 11 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, it is my hope that the amendments to clause 11 may go a little quicker than the amendments to clause 4, as they are substantially similar to the amendments which were made to clause 4 as they are …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is 85K. Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry?
The Chairman Chairman [It is] 85K. Hon. E. David Burt: [It is] 85K, as renumbered.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Provides the circumstanc es under which persons may be civilly liable to ICO partic ipants. [Amendment] 2(h) amends the renumbered section 85K, and it states that in the renumbered sec-tion in subsection (1) it is requested to be amended by deleting the word “can” and …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Leah Scott. [Crosstalk]
Ms. Leah K. Scott Section 85F, you will have to make the same amendment as y ou did on section 34E of the— [Inaudible interjectio ns]
Ms. Leah K. Scott All right, Bat Man. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: I will, Mr. Chairman, because the keen- eyed lawyer that the Deputy Opposition Leader is has — [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: She has been reading a whole lot of trust documents, and what she is making sure that takes place …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Honourable Pat Gordon- Pamplin.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just wonder if the Honourable Minister in respect of renumbered section 85J, on In itial Coin Offering on page 20 of the renumbered document . . . it has an (a) and a (b) basically talking about the penalties on summary conviction or …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair will recognise the Honourable Cole Hadley Simons.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Under the old heading 85G, identification of persons in relation to ICO offer doc ument, I wonder if the Minister would share with us how long will these companies be requir ed to hold these documents. Four years? Five years? Ten years?
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will answer both questions. I will answer the last question first. In the original 85G, the renumbered 85H, subsec tion (2) says for the purposes of subsection (1) the Minister shall make such regulations subject to the negative resolution …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Mr. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Seeing nothing further, I move with the extensive amendments to clause 11, which have been printed and circulated for all Members, and have been moved and discussed, I move that the amendments to clause 11 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to approving the amendments in clause 11? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Amendments to clause 11 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that clause 11 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to approving clause 11? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 11 passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will now move on to clauses 12 and 13. I move that clauses 12 and 13 be approved …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Continue, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 12 and 13 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to the approval of clauses 12 and 13? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 12 and 13 passed.] AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 14 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I will now ask that we now move to clause 14. Clause 14 …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Pat Gordon- Pamplin.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am particularly mindful in this particular clause. As I mentioned in the general debate we seem to be giving away the shop in terms of the cost of registration. And I am looking at $5,000 as a fee, and recognising that this probably …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you very much Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I note the comments from the Honourable Member for the Opposition, and, as I would say, as we continue to go through this process if there are revisions that are needed to be made r egarding these fees, we shall so make …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to approving clause 14? Hon. E. David Burt: As amended. Sorry.
The Chairman Chairman As amended. There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 14 passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Bur t: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move to clauses 15 and 16.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Clause 15 makes general provision for consequential amendments to be made by order subject to the negative r esolution procedure. Clause 16 provides for the commencement of this Act.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Continue, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that clauses 15 and 16 be ap-proved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to the approval of clauses 15 and 16? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 15 and 16 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved. The Ch airman: Any objections to approving the pr eamble? …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed—as amended, sorry. Is there any objection to that? None. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [Motion carried: The Companies and Limited Liability Company (Initial Coin Offering) Amendment Act 2018 was considered by a Commit …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. Are there any objections to the Bill entitled t he Companies and Limited Liability Company (Initial Coin Offering) Amendment Act 2018 being reported to the House as amended? No objections. So moved. I believe that brings us to the end of the O rders of the day. …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. [ Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill Companies Amendment Act 2018 do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. [ Motion carried: The Companies Amendment Act 2018 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Second . . . Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Walter H. Roban: On behalf of the Minister of Finance and the Premier, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled Companies and Limited Liability Company (Initial Coin Offering) Amendment Act 2018 as amended …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. Continue on. [ Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING COMPANIES AND LIMITE D LIABILITY COMPANY (INITIAL COIN OFFERING) AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill now be read a third time by its title only and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No objections? The matter is now passed. [ Motion carried: The Companies and Limited Liability Company (Initial Coin Offering) Amendment Act 2018 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker That brings us to the close of day. [ Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier? [Crosstalk ] ADJOURNMENT Hon. David Burt: It was not indicated that it would be done today. [ Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if you will forgive me, with your indulgence, it would help me for you to let me know what next week Friday is.
The Speaker The Speaker What next week Friday is? Hon. E. David Burt: What is the date?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The 4th.
The Speaker The Speaker The date? Hon. E. David Burt: The 4th—thank you! Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now adjourn until Friday, May 4th.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? Anyone wish to speak to it? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 22, the Honourable Member Grant Gi bbons, has the floor. 1966 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker , and good …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening. RESIGNATION OF HON. DR. E. GRANT GIBBONS, JP, MP
Hon. Dr. E. Gr ant Gibbons Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning . . . I rise this evening— it is evening, it has been a long day. I rise this evening on what I would call a bittersweet note. This will be my last sitting of the House. I will be forwarding my formal resignation …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member This is your last day?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons This is my 25 th year as a parliamentarian. And I can say that I have enjoyed every one of them —although I must admit there are some years that I have enjoyed more than others. It has been a privilege to carry out the people’s business. I would particularly …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Member , and we do recognis e that the service in this House comes with both good and bad— and you have given long service to the country and we honourably accept your resignation. We now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 10, the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Mr. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , today has, without question, been a monumental day for a number of particular reasons. And I would say that when Dr. Gibbons got up and gave his speech, it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The House now stands adjourned until Friday next, the 4 th of May at 10:00 am. [Gavel] [At 6:59 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 4 May 2018.] 1970 27 April 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentionally left …
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