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March 12, 2018

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 12, 2018
Session 2017/2018
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448 speeches from 28 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. The Minutes from the 7th of March and also the 9th of March have both been deferred. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The Speaker The Speaker We have a coupl e of announcements this morning. The first will be that, in recognition of the Commonwealth Day, we have the traditional Commonwealth message on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen. And this year’s Commonwealth theme is T owards a Common Future. And the message reads as follows: …
The Speaker The Speaker “We all have reason to give thanks for the numerous ways in which our lives are enriched when we learn from others. Through exchanging ideas, and seeing life from other per spectives, we grow in understanding and work more collaboratively t owards a common future. There is a very special …
The Speaker The Speaker I also would like to announce that, again in recognition of Commonwealth Day, our own Youth Parliament members are doing their piece in participating in Commonwealth Day by having a Youth Summit today. They are down at the Hamilton Pri ncess. I was there for the start of it this …
The Speaker The Speaker The next item is that I have received communic ation this morning fr om the Honourable Mi nister of Education that he is unwell today and will be absent . I believe that is all of our announcements t oday. 1644 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There is one paper as a communic ation today, and that is from the Honourable Premier. Honourable Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 2 ) FOR FINANCIAL YEAR 2017/18 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the powers conferred by section 96 of the Constitution, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consi deration of the Honourable House of Assembly Supplementary Estimate (No. 2) …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have one Statement on the Order Paper today, and that is in the name of the Honour able Minister . Honourable Minister Weeks, you have the floor. CARF ACCREDITATION OF DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAMMES Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you and my colleagues. …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, in 2009, the Women’s Treatment Centre was the first facility in Bermuda to meet the standards of CARF Internatio nal. In 2011, the Turning Point Substance Treatment Programme earned their international accreditation, and in 2015, the Men’s Treatment Programme earned theirs. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUES TION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are no written questions this morning, but we do have a Member who has indicated that he would like to put a question to the Minister in reference to the Statement that was just read. And I will acknowledge the Honourable M ember from constituency 10. Honourable Member Dunkley, …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: CARF ACCREDITATION OF DRUG TREATM ENT PROGRAMMES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good morning to colleagues and to the listening audience. I appreciate the Honourable Minister’s update on CARF accreditation of drug treatment pr ogrammes. Mr. Speaker, in light of this update and the progress that has …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We showed in the Statement that there is a women’s community programme. FOCUS serves as a men’s community programme for those who have fi nished the programme up at Nelson Bascome and are seeking a halfway house, so to …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Go on. 1646 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: CARF ACCREDITATION OF DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAMMES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, thank you. In the Statement, the Honourable Minister says the programme has the capacity of 12 female clients and 20 male clients. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The number of clients at any given time fluctuates , obviously, because it is a drug addiction and rehabilitation programme. So I cannot say right now how many people are there today, because each day it changes.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary or new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Just carrying on from that, Mr. Speaker, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker So, a supplementary? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley : Yes, a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Proceed. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Understanding that every day it could fluctuate, then if the Minister is not able to answer the current status, back to the second part of that question —is there ever a demand for extra c apacity?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: At any given time there can be an actual demand. And that is where the Turning Point Treatment Facility will come into play.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Suppl ementary or new question? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary. Go ahead. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, from my understanding, perhaps the Minister can clarify this, then. But the programmes we are talking ab out at Nelson Bascome would be in- house treatment. It would differ from the Turning P oint, which is not so much an …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Turning Point facility is an outpatient and inpatient drug addiction detox facility. And I am telling you this here from personal experience. So, if Nelson Bascome ever has an overflow, we could use the Turning Point facility for short -term …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Third question. QUESTION 3: CARF ACCREDITATION OF DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAMMES Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Third question, yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the Statement, the Honour able Minister says, I think it is the bottom of page 5, the National Drug Control Master Plan 2013 …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I cannot provide that at this point, Mr. Speaker, but I will definitely bring it to the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further questions? No further questions. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that? We recognise the Hono urable Government Whip. You have the floor.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And excuse my voice, as I am somewhat hoarse from celebrating a wedding. But my main congratulation is, I would like this House to send a letter of congratul ations to the Prospect United Football Club, Masters League team. And I declare my interest. I am …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Who have won the Masters League Championship. We are now Master League Champions for 2017/18 season. So I jus t wanted— Bermuda House of Assembly [Laughter]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I’m going to lose my voice. I find it funny that everyone is laughing.
The Speaker The Speaker You made me chuckle that time, Honourable Member. Go ahead.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott But, yes, I am one of the youngest players in the Masters League. [Laughter]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Yes. So I am one of the youngest masters. But with a hard- fought season, we had our ups; w e had our downs. But the team as a whole came together. We persevered, a nd we actually beat the St. George’s team. That is who was the runners-up right …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. I recognise the Honourable Premier . Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would just ask for the Honourable House . . . I am sure that all Members will wish to be associated with the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 1. Honourable Member Ming, you have the floor.
Mrs. Renee Ming Good morning, Mr. Speaker and listening audience. I would just like a congratulatory note to be sent to the B ermuda Annual Conference for the AME Church. I attended the closing- out ceremony yesterday, which also was the one that confirmed your appointment. And I would also like to congratulate …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Twenty -five!
Mrs. Renee Ming Twenty -five is correct. Yes. And I would like to associate MP Lovitta Foggo with that, and also MP Swan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. I now recognise the Honourable Minister Caines. Minister Caines, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on Saturday evening, I had the privilege to attend the Teen Services Awards. Mr. Speaker, there were a number of our . . . I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Mi nister. Any other Member? I recognise the Honourable Member GordonPamplin. You have the floor.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on a sad note, I would ask that this Honourable House send condolences to the fam ily of Mylan Simons, of Cedar Hill.
The Speaker The Speaker Uh-huh. Yes.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin My Honourable Leader Jeanne Atherden would like to be associated 1648 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly with these remarks. Mr. Simons was the husband of Laurie and the father to Mylan and Marla. And Mar la happens to be one of my co- workers in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 11. Honourable Member Famous, you have the floor.
Mr. Chr istopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker, good morning, colleagues and listening pu blic. I would like to give birthday greetings to Mrs. Melba Smith who is the mother of Norbert Simmons, a veritable . . . she calls herself the Roadrunner, taxi driver T1833. I would like to give birthday greetings to …
The Speaker The Speaker Let us try to keep it going down the right line. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. Let us keep it down the right line, Members.
Mr. Christopher Famous And congratulations to Berkeley for another great sports day, and congratul ations to Gold House.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members No, no, no. No, no.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you just lost me. You just lost me there. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Any Greenhouse Members here—
The Speaker The Speaker —who would also like to speak ? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like a letter of congrat ulations and thank -you sent through the Pompano Beach resort up there in Southampton, to the organi sers of the Pompano Ladies Pro- Am, Ms. Joy Bonhurst and Ms. Bailey Scheurer, from the Washington, DC, area. I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. I recognise the Honourable Member Commi ssiong. Honourable Member Commissiong, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to commend Argus Insurance. They donated $13,000 to Sandys School’s STEM programme. Mr. Speaker, this is a good development. We certainly need more investment, and we need more in the Bermudian and IB [international business] corporate sector to contribute even more than they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I now recognise the Honourable Member Ty rrell. Honourable Member Tyrrell, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, everyone els e.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, on a sad note, I ask that this House send congratulations to the fam ily—
The Speaker The Speaker Condolences, condolences.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Ooh. Condolences to the fam ily of the late Clarence Leroy Jones, commonly known as “Bonky” or “Chicken.” He was part of that Jones Village family. He will be certainly a loss to them. He was certainly known as a good carpenter, so other people will, obviously, miss him as …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No other Member wishes to speak? We now move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker We have one Government Bill in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister Wilson, you have the floor. FIRST READING PROCEEDS OF CRIME (MISCELLANEOUS) ACT 2018 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you and good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for the first reading …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker The Orders of the Day. The first Order is the resumption in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue an d Expenditure for the year 2018/19. I recognise the Honourable Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now resume in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. And before I call on the Member to chair this session, I would just like to take the customary time to inform the public of where we are. Today is day 7 of the annual Budget Debate. There are eight hours allotted, as normal. The first three …
The Chairman Chairman Members and to the listening public, as the Speaker indicated, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year. We will be debating, at this point, Head 9 with respect to the Ministry of Government R e1650 12 March …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, if I may, I neglected to me ntion that today, in addition to Head 9, you would also be dealing with Heads 13, 14, 26, 43, 51, and 80; you did note that. I just want to let the listeners know and confirm that. You may proceed now, Madam. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mini ster. Ho n. Lovitta F. Foggo: Yes. Mr. Chairman, line 76866, Security —the expenditure in this cost centre is estimated to be $200,000 for 2018/19 and represents an increase of $150,000 higher than the budget of 2017/18. This change is primarily due to requirements to deliver an …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to the respective heads? The Chair now recognises the Opposition Leader, Mrs. Jeanne Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman, can you just confirm for me how much time we have, just so that I can make sure …
The Chairman Chairman Madam, we have until 3:05, at which time the discussion of these respective heads will cease. The debate will end at 3:05 this afternoon. So, we have 20 minutes now. Hon. J eanne J. Atherden: We have about 20 minutes now and about an hour and five minutes —
The Chairman Chairman After lunch, yes. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay. Thank you. That is all I wanted to know.
The Chairman Chairman That is correct. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay. If I then, Mr. Chai rman, can start off with my discussion on . . . this is regarding Head 9, which is Cabinet Office. And that is found on page B -43. And I must say I will thank the Minister …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Opposition Leader. Members, shall we move to go to lunch? Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I move that the House do rise f or lunch now until 2:00 pm.
The Chairman Chairman So moved. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:31 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:03 pm [Ms. Susan E. Jackson, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2018/19 CABINET [Continuation thereon]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon. Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and E xpenditure for the year 2018/19. We are debating Ca binet Heads 9, 13, 14, 26, 43, 51, and 8 0. 1666 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair now recognises the Member from constituency 10, the Honourable Michael Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you , Madam Chairman, and go od afternoon. I will try to do a little legal speeding here to allow us to get through the last 30 minutes or …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair now recognises the Minister of Government Reform, the Honourable Lovitta Foggo. Please proceed. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Madam Chairman. And I will attempt to answer as many questions as possible. And I do believe that in answering some you will hear the answers to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member One of the goals. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: We are looking at, for i nstance, examples like making sure that the IT platform is where it needs to be to service Government. So it is the, if you will, the nuts and bolts of government, we are looking at that …
The Chairman Chairman Ah— Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: —IT is always changing, so it will alw ays be a challenge to make certain that it is where it needs to be.
The Chairman Chairman Minister, your time is up. Would you like to go on and move your heads? Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Okay. Thank you , Madam Chairman, and I did try to cover as many questions as possible. Madam Chairman, I move that Heads 9, 13, 14, 26, 43, 51, and 80 …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 9, 13, 14, 26, 43, 51, and 80 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Heads agreed to. [Gavel ] [Motion carried: Cabin et: Head 9, Cabinet Office ; Head 13, Post Office; Head 14, Department of Stati stics; Head …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member s, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2018/19. We are now going to debate National Secur ity, Heads 6, 7, 12, 25, 45, and 67. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. …
The Chairman Chairman Sir, Minister, if you could just move the heads. Hon. Wayne Caines: Madam Chairman, I seek y our leave to move Head 6.
The Chairman Chairman Wh y do you not just move all of them now? Hon. Wayne Caines: Madam Chairman, I seek your leave to move: Head 6, Defence; Head 7, Police; Head 12, Customs; Head 25, Department of Corrections; Head 45, Fire Service; and Head 67, Depar tment of Information Communication Technologies be …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. You may proceed. HEAD 6 —DEFENCE Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, Head 6 comprises the Royal Bermuda Regiment. The Regiment’s role is to provide operational capacity to support the civil authority. It performs a number of cruci al functions i ncluding natural …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Madam Chairman, point of order.
The Chairman Chairman Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, the question I have is can a Backbencher read a Ministerial brief? I think it needs to be another Minister . . . ess entially because we have got collective responsibility here and a Bac kbencher does not have that. It is not that Mr. De Silva is doing …
The Chairman Chairman Right, if you would like to yield, Member, and we w ill allow Minister Weeks to take over. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay, all right. Gee, I thought Grant liked me. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman And just for the listening audience, we are just taking a pause, the Minister will return and continue his brief. Hon. Wayne Caines: I apologise, Madam Chai rman.
The Chairman Chairman It is fine. Minister, you may proceed. Hon. Wayne Caines: The mission of the Customs Department is To promote compliance with Bermuda’s Customs Laws through quality service and respons ible enforcement, thereby contributing to the economic and social stability of our community. Madam Chairman, the mandate is as follows. The …
The Chairman Chairman We have the Minister of Social Services continuing on this debate. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Vocational pr ogrammes and services that will be offered in this fiscal year at Westgate, Farm, and Co-Educational fac ilities based on the population and needs include: carpentry, auto body, welding, …
The Chairman Chairman For the listening audience, we are just changing back to the substantiv e Minister. Minister Caines will continue shortly. Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed. Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, sir. The mission of the Bermuda Fire and Rescue Service is To provide adequate Fire Protection and Emergency Medical Services for all areas of these Islands, to extinguish fires, to protect life and property in case of fire, road accident, or other …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, sir. Hon. Wayne Caines: In September I said that cybersecurity is critically important and that all Bermudians must take it seriously. Wit hout strong cybersecurity awareness and preparation our safety, economic prosperity, and national security will all be at risk. It is therefore my view that we —and …
The Chairman Chairman But I was trying to link the Marketing and Promotions into your presentation. Can you help me? Hon. Wayne Caines: Yes, indeed. So the Marketing is that you learned about three programmes and they all connected into one. When you looked at technology you saw the pr ogramme for the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much. Hon. Wayne Caines: Leveraging opportunities. In today’s increasingly interconnected world new entr epreneurial ideas can be born anywhere, but to truly flourish they must be nurtured. Middle and high school students are exposed to business opportunities through the free week -long BizCamp, which allows budding entrepreneurs …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Is the re anyone else that would like to speak to National Security, Heads 6, 7, 12, 25, 45, and 67? I recognise the Shadow Minister, the repr esentative from constituency 25, the Honourable Jeff Baron.
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you , Mr. Chairman. I would like to s tart by thanking the Minister for the comprehensive brief. I know we have allotted five hours for this debate. I do not anticipate taking so much time, but a few housekeeping matters. The Minister did mention a health matter so, …
Mr. Jeff Baron You know they could have wrapped it up for me, Minister, but they did not tell me that. Thank you. Thank you , Mr. Chairman, I do not want to digress, but I appreciate that. I say that because a good amount of conversation occurred with the members of the …
Mr. Jeff Baron I shall start, Mr. Chairman, with Head 6, Defence, which is found on pages B -276 to B -279. The Minister quite rightly highlighted some of the achievements that the Regiment has had in the last year and I am going to assert something that I hold firmly, that the …
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you. Will there be any police officers attached to the Royal Bermuda Regiment as a handover period, assuming there is a handover per iod, Mr. Chairman? And how many —if the Minister can let us know —how many Bermuda Police officers will be attached if there is a handover …
Mr. Jeff Baron Yes, I will get to that. I applaud that. The number of soldiers was 40. Can the Honourable Minister let us know beyond, I suppose, holding an-other course, how these funds will be used to bett er address recruitment of Bermudians. I say Bermudians, Mr. Chairman, because I am led …
The Chairman Chairman Can I interrupt you for a second, Shadow Minister?
Mr. Jeff Baron Of course. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN HOUSE VISITOR
The Chairman Chairman At this point I would like to recognise Pastor David Steed. He is the Pastor of the Hamilton Seventh- day Adventist Church. I would like to we lcome Reverend Steed to the House of Assembly. Thank you. [Desk thumping] [Committee of Supply continuing]
Mr. Jeff Baron All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and welcome, of course, you did the welcome much better than I did, Mr. Chairman. That was the question regarding Overseas Camp. So, moving on to 16080 Courses and Attac hments, can the Minister confirm if any of our soldiers will be attending the …
The Chairman Chairman You may proceed, Honourable Member.
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you . Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Chairman, it has been clearly articulated by the Premier and the Government in their statement regarding the budget that emphasis or, if I can read briefly from the Budget Statement a sent ence, Mr.
Chairman Chairman “The Government has redirected resources to education, training, and entrepreneurship to better tackle the root causes of violence. ” That is a noble endeavour. And I certainly do not take away someone who has studied criminology and th e impact of root causes, secondary crime r eduction efforts, et cetera, …
Mr. Jeff Baron Well, this is what I understand. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Jeff Baron Secondly, my question to the Minister is: If we are hiring two people to address a gap and we are making the money available sometime in April or May, and we have a CFATF audit in September, what type of impact are two people (who are going to be learning …
The Chairman Chairman You may.
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you . The number of hours delivered by anticrime and anti -gang awareness in Bermuda’s schools and the community at large. My question to the Minister is: Can the Minister inform this House how many school children have graduated from the Great Programme to date during the 2017/18 school …
Mr. Jeff Baron Yes. Okay. Okay, I figured that. So it appears that the money . . . and kudos for identifying that. The remaining money, the 345, is to pay the balance of t he monies paid to basically say, Hey, can you start to build this? I know that it takes …
The Chairman Chairman Where are you reading from, sir?
Mr. Jeff Baron I am reading from the Budget Book page [B -]28, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman What head does that cover?
Mr. Jeff Baron That covers the entire Ministry of N ational Security.
The Chairman Chairman No, what particular head does that cover because we are talking on the budget right now.
Mr. Jeff Baron Indeed, we are. And the Budget Speech that was made by the Premier speaks to it.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Jeff Baron I will get you the very specific head,
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Jeff Baron So my comment with regard to the Police was under Head 7, on page B -281, and the comment regarding Fire Services, Mr. Chairm an, was page B -293, which speaks to the overall budget. And the comments regarding the Department of Corrections, Mr. Chairman, is on B -289, the …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Grant Gibbons.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibb ons Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. I appreciate the introduction from my honourable colleague, Mr. Baron. Mr. Chairman, as the Honourable Member said, we thought it was probably appropriate on this side that I deal with Head 67, which, as you can pro bably s ee, is on page B -296 …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons In technology. That was set up by President Obama probably about five years or so ago. Standards and Technology . . . National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST. They put out a framework which is used both by the US Government and also by a lot of US bus …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons It was 2013. [Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, yes. And the reason I think it is an interesting parallel is because traditional reinsurance had relied on essentially more standard contracts and their own capital to be able to cover risks. But insurance- linked securities went out to the capital markets and essentially started getting a huge amount …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Clarien is actually not in it, but thank you for asking. [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you for asking. The issue here is, this stuff is all around us and I think you can be sure that the reinsurers . . . I know AIG is very involved in it, are also doing work. So it is going to be interesting to see how this …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Could be. I am —
The Chairman Chairman Yes. I want to steer you from that.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons —talking about . . . yes. I will be careful here. I guess the issue here is, this department is about policy. I think part of what goes into policy is the issue of, okay, you have got these tools, this a pproach, what are you going to get out …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Well, you know, they did in certain respects. But again, I think this department is also i mportant in terms of, what I will call, helping to develop some of the talent. The Minister did talk about that in his brief, the Technology Leadership Forum [TLF] and others. But we …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Michael Dunkley. You have the floor, sir. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and good evening to you. I am pleased to be able to contribute to this debate this evening on the various heads within …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member from St. George’s, constituency 2, Kim Swan. Mr. Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the opportunity to speak on these important heads. I am going to start at the back of the book on the capital acquisitions section and go right to Fire Services, as it relates on—
The Chairman Chairman What number?
Mr. Hu bert (Kim) E. Swan [Page] C -14. Capital A cquisitions, Fire Services, 76383. There was some $345,000 in Capital Acquis itions earmarked for a turntable ladder for the Berm uda Fire and Rescue Service. But I want to start off by thanking the men and women of the Bermuda Fire and Rescue Service for …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I was there when persons were tested. And I can tell you, it almost got . . . [I] 1712 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly almost needed to go borrow my mates can opener to help it ease it go through. I think what the …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan They had to reverse back. And you know, it reminded me of the time of my dear friend, Captain Jack, who lived up on the top of Old Maid’s Lane up there. And there are other ar eas such as that area, where the zigzag would make it very, very …
The Chairman Chairman Eight o’clock.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Okay. All right. As we speak to the Police and I think it is i mportant maybe if the Minister could . . . I know manpower is always an issue, Mr. Chairman. And very topical within p olicing and investigating is the amount of time that is being expended …
The Chairman Chairman What page?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I am going to page B -297. There was talk about cryptocurrency and blockchain. Now I am no expert in that field, but I just happened on a Sunday to have some guests that came in to a talk show, and I was very enlightened and enthused by the level …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I was excited because as persons called in to question these experts from overseas, one or two persons said, You sound too excited. Can you slow down a little bit? And anybody knows that in the world of finance, in the world of IT, the people who are excited, the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No, sir.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan They do not act traditionally.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No, sir.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And they get it done! And they defy the odds. So I have a young Minister who is around people who are equally as excited, who want to bring 1714 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Bermuda to the cutting edge the way in which . …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No doubting Thomases.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And Mr. Chairman, som etimes in order to be the best you have got to dare to want to be the best.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, sir! Talk about it.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I know how doubting Thomas works. Doubting Thomas would come there and tell you all the time all the hundreds of things of why you cannot make it; while the persons w ho are in captive industry are hiring people who are trained like me to be able to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mercy!
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes! Ask me how I know. I know this because I have been trained by some of the best in the world to be confident in spite of . . . and when I meet persons like Ms. Loretta J oseph here, on Head 67, B -96, that is looking …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member They would have done it!
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Chairman, when it comes to getting passionate about making a dollar, that is what we need to start instilling in our young people as well. And that is the excitement that I got just by being in the presence of the young Minister who is speaking for blockchain and …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Because if we can switch our talented young people on to mathematics, dare I say, where many of them have the aptitude but do not realise the talent that lies within them, if we can bring out of them what is really in them, because they are good . . …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan It is like a person . . . and you will understand this analogy. You will understand this analogy, Mr. Chai rman. I transform people in what I do. I take a slicer and I do not try to teach them how to make it . . . hit them …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Chris Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good evening, Mr. Chai rman. Good evening, colleagues and good evening to the people of Bermuda. Mr. Chairman, earlier today we were treated because MP Baron is here. MP Baron highlighted a budget cut and staff shortage in the Bermuda Police Bermuda House of Assembly Service which might have a …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons CFATF. [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member CFATF.
Mr. Christopher Famous Sorry, CFATF. Thanks for being there. Mr. Chairman, apparently there is an ongoing police criminal —I say, “cr iminal” not civil, criminal— investigation of PLP Members, former PLP MPs —
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Mr. Chairman— [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons —the Honourable Member should not be talking—
The Chairman Chairman You have a point of or der?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons —about an ongoing police investigation. Point of order, yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. POINT OF ORDER
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes. This is . . . while we fund the place, we do not tell them what they should be doing, as the Honourable Member should know.
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Member.
Mr. Christopher Famous Interesting. I would like to ask the Minister some questions, Mr. Chairman, if possible. Mr. Minister, can you tell us if that criminal investigation is still going on?
The Chairman Chairman You have a point of order? You need to state that. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Could the Member tell us which line item he is dealing with?
The Chairman Chairman He is dealing with the Police. Continue, Member. [Inaudible interjection]
The Chairman Chairman Member. Continue, please.
Mr. Christopher Famous Again, line item . . . sorry, some chirping going on here, Mr. Chairman. The line item is on the police. Anyway. Mr. Minister, will this matter be going to court? When will this matter be going to court? What is the total spent on this matter thus far, Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Michael Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Obviously, if the Government has funded i nvestigations, they must support any investigations. But, Mr. Chairman, back to Fire Service, Head 45, [page] B -293. The question …
The Chairman Chairman Robertson’s did not burn to the ground. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Well, th e second floor did. The honourable gentleman from constituency 2 made a comment about out on Front Street, and that is where I was going. On Front Street there was an i nvestigation into the fire. I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Minister, the Ho nourable Wayne Caines . Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the budget supports four hundred and . . . will there be a recruit? This is Mr. Baron. MP Baron asks will there …
The Chairman Chairman That is the end of the debate. Mini ster, do you want to move the heads? Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Chairman—
The Chairman Chairman Yes? Hon. Wayne Caines: I mov e that Heads 6, 7, 12, 25, 45, and 67 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections to the movement of those heads —the approval of those heads? There appear to be none. No objections. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of National Security : Head 6, Defence; Head 7, Police; Head 12, Cus toms; Head 25, Department of Corrections; Head 45, Bermuda …
The Chairman Chairman No, no, just wait. I call on the Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I move the follo wing heads be approved as printed. Heads 1, 2, 5, 56, 63, 85, 92, 98, 101, 84, 3, 74, 75, 11, 12, 28, 39, 59, 19, 31, 57, 73, 83, 50, …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Current A ccount Estimates, the Capital Development Estimates and the Capital Acquisition Estimates be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? Approved. [Motion carried: Heads 1, 2, 5, 56, 63, 85, 92, 98, 101, 84, 03, 74, 75, 11, 12, 28, 39, 59, 19, 31, 57, 73, 83, Bermuda House of Assembly 50, and 46 were approved and stand part of the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? Approved. [Motion carried: The Estimates of Revenue and E xpenditure for Financial Year 2018/19 were considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the approval of the Estimates be reported to …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? [Desk thumping]
The Chairman Chairman The Committee rises. [Gavel] House resumed at 8:10 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2018/19
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. We are now back in the House. Are there any objections to the Committee having the report . . . reporting back in to the House with the Estimates and Revenue? No objections. Mr. Premier? BILL FIRST READING APPROPRIATION ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. Continue, Minister. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I move in accordance with Standing Order 28(5)(1) that under the provisions of Standing Orders 41, 12, and 42 the remaining stages of the Bill entitled Appropriation Act 2018 be taken forthwith.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. Continue, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the Bill entitled the Appropri ation Act 2018 be now read the second time in the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. Continue. BILL SECOND READING APPROPRIATION ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move clauses 1 through 6, inclusive, together with the Schedu les A, B, and C as printed.
The Speaker The Speaker No objections? Continue. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 6 together with Schedules A, B, and C passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move the preamble.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objectio ns? No objections. Continue. BILL THIRD READING APPROPRIATION ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the Bill entitled the Appropriation Act 2018 be now read the third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. E. D avid Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the said Bill do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker No objections? The Bill do now pass as printed. 1720 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: The Appropriation Act 2018 was read a third time and passed.] MESSAGE TO THE SENATE APPROPRIATION ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member , Premier. This now brings us to a close of the debate that has taken place for the annual Estimates of Revenues for this current year. We now move on to the next item on the O rder Paper which is [Order] No. 2, the consideration …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the Gover nment Fees A mendment Regulations 2018 represents the conclusion of the biennial review of Government fees. By way of standing policy, Government review the fees on a regular basis to ensure that there is reasonable cost recovery for the provisions of …
The Speaker The Speaker Members! [Inaudible i nterjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Members. Whoever that belongs to needs to sort it out.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Sorry, Mr. Speaker . Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Based on the general i ncrease of 5 per cent of their overall financial impact of these revisions is estimated t o be an increase in yield of about $1.5 to $2.5 million in 2018/19. As part of the biennial review, departments …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? I recognise the Honour able Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member , you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I am glad that the Junior Minister quickly ran through the new heads. I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I thought he was going to answer the question. If not, I will ask my second question. The other thing—
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, do you want the Member to yield and you would answer it or — Hon. Way ne L. Furbert: I will wait until everyone else speaks.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, continue on. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: There is also . . . and I am trying to find it right now . . . there is actually . . . I think there might be a typo, and I say typo in terms of . . . I think …
The Speaker The Speaker So, just for clarity, you are yielding right now or . . . you are giving up? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden : I am done.
The Speaker The Speaker You are done? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I will respond—
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead, Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: —just to get it out of the way. 1722 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Yes, you are right. They w ere before, but the Pension Commission now collects these fees as they administer the Act.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. I recognise—
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I was going to speak to my heads, Mr. Speaker . I do not know about an ybody els e.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, well —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch But that may answer some questions if you like.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, one second. Do you want to ask any questions to the Junior Minister? Okay, we will take the Honourable Member from constituency 22, who has a question for the Junior Minister.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I have had a look through the electricity and electronic communications fees and what . . . most of them have not changed at all because ther e is a proportion of kilowatt hours or things of that sort or of a . …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Page 30, the very bottom of the page. It is Head 25. So, the authorisation fee there has gone from 2.5 per cent last year up to 3.5 per cent. This is a pre tty large number because it is based on the relevant taxable tur nover of telecom providers. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? Any other Honourable Member ? I recognise the Minister of Works, the Honourable Member Minister Burch. You have the floor.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, yes, I would like to speak to my heads, starting with Head 7, the fees for the Bermuda National Parks Act 1986.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The department currently offers a variety of goods and services that have been provided to the public for a nominal fee since the inception of the Bermuda National Parks Act 1986. These include the provision of venues for social events and weddings, the rental of buildings, and admission into attractions. …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Head 38, Land Title Registration Act 2011. Mr. Speaker, with the recent passing of the amendments to the Act in 2017, the Land Title Registry office is working hard to become operational and commence registering private land with a plan to go- live date for J uly 2, 2018. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? Junior Minister, you can wrap up. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member from [constituency] 22 asked a question and the . . . we were up front. As you may be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. You can move it. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I move clauses 1 to . . . all of them.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? The Clerk: These are regulations. You do not need to move the clauses. Hon. Wayne L . Furbert: I am sorry —
The Speaker The Speaker Just send a message— The Clerk: Send a message—
The Speaker The Speaker Just send a message. It is regulations. The Clerk: Where is the motion? The motion should be there. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, no problem. Mr. Speaker, I move that the draft regulations be approved and that a simple message be sent to His Excellency the Governor.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. So moved. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Draft Regulations entitled the Government Fees Amendment Regu lations 2018 were considered by the whole House and approved.]
The Speaker The Speaker That brings a close to [Order] No. 2 on the Order Paper. We now move on to [Order] No. 3 which is consideration of Government Fees (Trade Marks and Service Marks) Amendment Regul ation 2018 in the name of the Minister of Finance. Junior Minister, are you doing this one, …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. REGULATIONS GOVERNMENT FEES (TRADE MARKS AND SERVICE MARKS) AMENDMENT REGULATI ONS 2018 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I move that consideration be given to the draft regulations entitled Government Fees (Trade Marks and Service Marks) Amendment Regulations 2018 proposed to be made by the Minister responsible for Finance …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise today to introduce the amendment regulations entitled Government Fees (Trade Marks and Ser vice Marks) Amendment Regulations 2018. The amendment regulation seeks to increase fees and introduce a new fee structure for trade and service marks …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Leader of the O pposition. Honourable Member , you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, as the Junior Minister indicated the Government had signified that it was going to be increasing most …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Honourable Member ? Junior Mini ster. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I move that the said draft regulati ons be approved and a suitable message be sent to His Excellency the Governor. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. So moved. [Motion carried: The Government Fees (Trade Marks and Service Marks) Amendment Regulations 2018 were considered by the whole House and approved.]
The Speaker The Speaker That brings us to an end with that item. We now move on to the next item which is [Order] No. 4 on the Order Paper, the second reading of the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2018, in the name of the Minister of Finance. And I believe the Minister …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . Government wishes before this Honourable House to give consideration to the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2018. Honourable Member s are aware of the Government’s strong desire to diversify the economy with the intr oduction …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that? I recognise the Honourable Leader of the O pposition. Honourable Member , you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Sp eaker, the Minister and Premier answered the question that I think we had on this side, which was why we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Mr. Cole Simons. Honourable Member , you have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I just have a question for the Premier.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, Member.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Given that we are adding a FinTech repr esentative on the board, does the mandate for the BMA have to be amended to include the FinTech industry as far as a regulatory point of view?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? Minister — Premier — Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thank the Opposition Leader and Shadow Minister of Finance for her support in this item. It would not technically be …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Author ity Amendment Act 2018 . Minister, you have the floor. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. Da vid Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to moving the clauses? No objections. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, clause 1 is self -explanatory. Clause 2 am ends section 4(1)(d) of the Bermuda Monetary Authority Act 1969 (which states 10 members appointed by the Minister from persons with experience …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister, continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that clauses 1 and 2 be a pproved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? No objections. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 and 2 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Any o bjections to the preamble being approved? No objections. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Any objections? No objections. [Motion c arried: The Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2018 was considered by a Commi ttee of the whole House and passed without amendments.] House resumed at 8:49 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, any objection to the Bill being reported to the House as printed? No objections. So moved. We now move on to [Order] No. 5 on the O rder Paper which is the second reading of Cost of Li ving Commission Am endment Act 2018 in the name of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Cost of Living Commission Amendment Act 2018 for consideration of Honour able Member s of this House of Assembly. Honourable Member s will recall that in a first step to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member , you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, through you to the Minister, I understand the rationale for increasing the numbers from three because, as …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Hono urable Member ? Minister. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, some of the questions that the Honourable Opposition Leader asked will be answered in Committee, specifically, the …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy. House in Committee at 8:56 pm COMMITTEE ON BILL [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] Bermuda House of Assembly COST OF LIVING COMMI SSION AMENDMENT ACT 2018
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled the Cost of Living Commission Amendment Act 2018. Minis ter, you have the floor. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move all . …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to that? There appear to be none. Continue. Hon. E. Da vid Burt: Mr. Chairman, clause 1 is self - explanatory. Clause 2 amends section 2 of the principal Act by replacing subsection (2) to increase the number of members of the Commission from 3 to between 8 …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Premier, do you want to move? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that clauses 1, 2 and 3 be a pproved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? No objections, approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1, 2 and 3 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to the preamble being approved? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be presented to the House as approved. Any objections? [Motion carried: The Cost of Living Commission Amendment Act 2018 was considered by a Comm ittee of the whole House and passed without amendments.] House resumed at 8:58 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, are there any o bjections to the Bill being reported to the House as printed? No objections. So moved. Minister, I believe all other matters were being carried over. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, [Orders] Nos. 6 through 10 will be carried over unt il the next sitting. We will now go to— Hon. E. David Burt: Third readings.
The Speaker The Speaker Third readings, yes. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspende d to enable me to move that the Bill ent itled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2018 be now read for …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? No objections. Continue on. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspend ed.] BILL THIRD READING 1730 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary …
The Speaker The Speaker Next item? SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that Stan ding Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled the Cost of Living Commission Amendment Act 2018 be now read the third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Or der 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING COST OF LIVING COMMI SSION AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Cost of Living Commission Amendment Act 2018 be now read a third time …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. It is now passed. [Motion carried: The Cost of Living Commission Amendment Act 2018 was read a third time and passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have a motion, if I may.
The Speaker The Speaker A motion? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker You would like to— SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 14 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 14 be suspended to enable me to present the following communication to the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Are ther e any objections to the suspension of [Standing Order 14] at this time to allow the Premier to put his motion? Any objections? No objections. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, Mr. Premier. MOTION MINISTERS AND MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE (SALARIES AND PENSIONS) ACT1975 BE REVOKED Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I will go ahead. I am mindful that the last time I asked for the [Standing Orders] to be suspended was to put a motion of no …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. So it will be tabled for the next sitting. No objections to that, I am sure. That now brings us to the c lose of business for today. Mr. Premier, being on your feet, would you like to do the honours? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: I have …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that? Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Tyrrell, you are on your feet. I recognise the Honourable Member Tyrrell, from constituency 26. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Good evening.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell I will try not to keep the evening too long.
The Speaker The Speaker I will hold you to that. LAHEY CLINIC LAWSUIT DISMISSED BY US COURT
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, when we adjourned here last Friday, after much fire and fury, I intended to just go home and put my feet up and have a relaxing weekend, as I sometimes do. However, I did not realise that many of my constituents actually stayed up and listened to us …
The Speaker The Speaker No, please don’t.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell —or speak behind the back of an Honourable Member, but as the Honourable Mem-ber has chosen not to be here—
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, I am going to caution you not to go down that road, because . . . Take your seat a minute.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand.
The Speaker The Speaker Take your seat a minute.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell I am going to—
The Speaker The Speaker Take your seat a minute—
The Speaker The Speaker —before you find yourself joining him.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I am going to caution Members on that . The Honourable Member is not here because I asked him not to be here. I was the one who put him out. So, just remember that.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, what I was about to say was that I would not normally speak beh ind a person’s back, but I am going to make an exception tonight. That is what I meant. I hope that is accept able.
The Speaker The Speaker I cautioned you already —
The Speaker The Speaker —so you are going to be on thin ice. Just be careful how you go down that road.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell I understand. I understand. Mr. Speaker, as I said, many of my constit uents were very upset in those WhatsApp’ s that they sent me and phone calls. As I said, starting from Fr iday when I got home, even as late as it was, all day Saturday; Sunday, even …
The Speaker The Speaker Let’s try to keep your comments in a general sense, and not be specifically . . . we do not have the facts to say that was the case at this point.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Well, I understand that, as well, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the issue itself, then . . . it a ppears that there was an excessive amount of money spent on a court hearing that we now know the outcome of. Certainly, it appears that . . . I am speaking …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Yes, let’s put it that way, pol itics at its worst.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, well, well, before I take your poi nt of order . . . I indicated that you were on thin ice. And you made a comment and then you hesitated and I thought you were going to clean up the comment. We cannot speak to whether it is a …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can I go on?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you can go on.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker —
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin I have a point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member, perhaps unkno wingly, has taken conversation from someone in the Gallery. And I think that is not allowed, and I think that it is important that we are mindful —
The Speaker The Speaker He took conversation from Mr. Swan sitting next to him. An Hon . Member: What are you talking about? No one in the Gallery has said anything.
The Speaker The Speaker And he hesitated just now. He was speaking to his colleague, Mr. Swan, sitting next to him. Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, if I misspoke, if I mis informed, then I do apologise and withdraw the comment.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Mr. Swan is sitting right next to him. That is his colleague. You cannot see him behind the chair, but he is sitting there. Mr. Swan, you want to raise your head a little next ti me? Do you have another point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Mr. Speaker, you partially addressed it. The point of order is that the Honourable Member is imputing improper motives by sug-gesting that my c olleague had a personal vendetta.
The Speaker The Speaker I think I addressed that.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons You did. But he should withdraw it, I think.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Member, just be cautious. You have been cautioned about the thin ice that you are on. And I am giving directions that as you speak, let’s not go into what is not factual. You can speak to generalisations, but not factualise it. Without the facts you could be putting …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you for your advice, Mr. Speaker. I will withdraw the personal -ness out of it, but I certainly will say it is politics at its worst again. And I will say it again: Politics at its worst. Mr. Speaker, the last thing that was reflected to me by my …
The Speaker The Speaker Again, you are putting your personal injection in to this. We cannot speak to whether it was a planned action. I took the acti on and called him out. We cannot speak to whether or not it was a planned action on his [part] to be thrown out. We just …
Mr. N eville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, I will say one last time, politics at its worst. It appeared that way. Thank you for your time, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 11. Honourable Member …
Mr. Christopher Famous Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Good evening to my colleagues. Good evening to the listening public of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I would like to begin by quoting the famous actor Jack Nicholson in his role in a movie called A Few Good Men. You want truth? “You can’t handle the truth!” …
The Speaker The Speaker My eyes are not that good, but go ahead.
Mr. Christopher Famous This little piece of consti tuency 25 is no longer in constituency 25. What does that mean, Mr. Speaker? It means that constitue ncy 25 is now an extremely marginal seat. So that would mean anyone, any person canvassing on behalf of the OBA would have to knock on doors …
The Speaker The Speaker Now, now don’t put yourself on thin ice .
Mr. Christopher Fam ous Sorry. They would have to answer the truth. Moving on, Mr. Speaker, to the second acc usation or point of order that we got. The Honourable Jeanne Atherden got up and said Global Research polls are not accurate. Well, that is true, because the Saturday before the election it said …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I was just trying to get the date. February 17th?
Mr. Christopher Famous February 17th, 2017.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Christopher Famous Again, question by the Honourable Member David E. Burt. “Will the Honourable Attorney General please give a simple yes -or-no [answer] to this House today as to whether or not he has been contacted by any member of the United States Department of Justice since his office filed a lawsuit …
Mr. Christopher Famous Hmm. It goes on to say, “So, they can rest easy on that front. And the public can rest easy.” Seemingly —I use the word very cautiously, seemingly —that was not the truth. Now, I even went further, Mr. Speaker, because— Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. 1734 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I believe the Member is inadvertently misleading the House because he cannot say that that was not the truth, he does not have the knowledge. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah, ah, Member. Member. He did indicate that apparently, and I was waiting for him to see where he was goin g to go with it, but I did indicate to him that he is on thin ice . But he said that apparently there did not appear …
Mr. Christopher Famous Okay. Well, Mr. Speaker, I went on to investigate even further. Amongst the Cabinet Members present on this Question and A nswer, as per the Minutes of February 17, [2017], Exhibit B, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Craig Cannonier —
The Speaker The Speaker I think you’re on to Exh ibit C now. You already did B. [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous Sorry. I got confused by the point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker No problem.
Mr. Christopher Famous Honourable Craig Ca nnonier; Honourable Dr. Grant Gibbons; Honourable Cole Simons; Honourabl e Michael Dunkley; Honour able Jeanne Atherden; Honourable Gordon- Pamplin. So, in other words, Mr. Speaker, the truth is the majority of the Cabinet was there when that issue first came up. So for them to stand up …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin The Honourable Member is misleading the House. What the Honour able Member just read from Hansar d was by question to the former Attorney General. He indicated, 1) there was no breach; 2) there was no matter that was used in the civil investigation case that had been obtained otherwise; …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, that is why I use my words carefully. I said the Honourable Member said they had no knowledge of it. Again, Mr. Speaker, let’s play a game of “What if.” What if you were in Cabinet and an important piece of communication from your biggest trading partner was …
The Speaker The Speaker Gentlemen, gentlemen.
Mr. Christopher Famous As the Honourable Members said, they knew nothing about it.
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, one speaker, please.
Mr. Christopher Famous What if they were not aware of this? Hmm. Any point of order?
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair, speak to the Chair. You are speaking to me. Continue on.
Mr. Christopher Famous What would you do when you found this out, like they supposedly did, last week? [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous Would they continue to defend the former Attorney General, Mr. Trevor Moniz? Hmm.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, you start ed off by saying a “what if” and you were being sort of general without going specific. Now you are trying to be specific. So let me caution you to stay general.
Mr. Christopher Famous Okay. Mr. Speaker. I think the point has been proven. Bermuda House of Assembly Let me pivot , Mr. Speaker, because I want to end on a good note here. Mr. Speaker, on Febr uary 14th of this year, the Royal Gazette had on the front page a somewhat misleading …
Mr. Speaker. The Speake r Continue.
Mr. Christopher Famous “Famous: PLP must reach out to white [voters].” This caused a small exchange of some colourful metaphors with a few of my friends. Again, let us go to what is the truth, Mr. Speaker. What I actually stated was the fol lowing: “We have a racial issue in this country …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 25, the Honourable Member Baron. You have the floor.
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good evening.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening.
Mr. Jeff Baron Good evening to all colleagues here and the listening audience. It is always entertaining from the Member who just took his seat. The rhetoric sounds a lot like a third grade math teacher, he talks a lot about division.
The Speaker The Speaker Now, I have asked everybody to try —
Mr. Jeff Baron No, I am saying their rhetoric —
The Speaker The Speaker —not to get personal, not . . . I have been cautioning everybody, so let’s not —
Mr. Jeff Baron —the rhetoric, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interject ions and general uproar]
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah, gentlemen! Gentlemen! Member, Member, Member —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Sh, sh, sh . . . there you go, quiet down.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, just take your seat a minute. Member. Members, let me caution everybody that tonight we are only taking one person at a time, like we always do. Anybody else who cannot contain themselves . . . the door is right there. And you know I have no problem showing …
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker, for that. I will not address any of the comments that the former speaker made, but I will address, as we have Hansard now available, some of the comments that the speaker made and other Members of this House on Friday, which were quite …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member My granddaughter did. 1736 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Members! Members!
Mr. Jeff Baron I have served this community. Thank you. I have served this community. And I have come back and I have gotten involved in politics, and I have served this community. Whether Members on the other side like me or not is immaterial. Whether Members agree or not with my policies …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah — An Hon, Member: The “Honourable Member. ”
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on.
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you. Again, I am flattered every time I am interrupted because it means I have hit a nerve.
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Speaker. Talk to the Speaker.
Mr. Jeff Baron My point, Mr. Speaker, is simple. I am a Bermudian who served his country. I am a father. I am a single father. I am a proud single father. I have a lot of responsibilities at home, as well. In fact, my son is probably waiting for me right now. …
The Speaker The Speaker Rightly so. Yes.
Mr. Jeff Baron You have made that very clear t onight, Mr. Speaker. This House . . . whether you agree with Jeff Baron or not on policy, whether you like me or not, I have no anim us towards anybody in this House. Not one person. I have not done anything personal, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 29. Honourable Member De Silva, you have the floor . Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, before I get into my main topic for tonight, I …
The Speaker The Speaker We have been trying hard tonight not to go down a personal road. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I got you loud and clear, Mr. Speaker. Loud and clear. But the Honourable Member talked about how he served the country, and how he has family. And he is not …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And I will get into some of the things he did under his reign where people will benefit for centuries to come. What about the civil servants and the Commission of Inquiry? They have families. And they have served this country too. What …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, Members. Members! One speaker . Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You know what? I could talk for an hour on my personal experiences since I have been wearing green and white, Mr. Speaker. I could tell you how . . . you talk about affec ting family …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I wonder why?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, connect those dots. Here we are. We have a wealthy black man in Bermuda that just happens to be a former Premier of Bermuda; financial information is given . . . how did he get it? I asked this question last week. …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gor don-Pamplin Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Take your seat, Member. Point of order, Ma’am? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin I just want to . . . I think the Honourable Member may be inadvertently, be intentionall y misleading the House. I never mentioned any defence. I specifically said that I would speak to what was in the judgment. I spoke to the first page, and I spoke to an …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Member. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, what I would say is that we heard some hogwash squeal laced in manure. That is what we heard. That is what we heard. And qui te frankly —
The Speaker The Speaker Now, let’s — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I will withdraw that, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Let’s try to use some more parliamentary terminology. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I thought that was quite soft, myself, Mr. Speaker. But I wil l withdraw it, and I will move on. Mr. Speaker, as I said, a few weeks ago, you will know because I am pretty …
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair. Speak to the Chair. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, yes, yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am going to ask the Commi ssioner and maybe the Governor to put a stop to this relentless . . . I don’t want to use the word …
The Speaker The Speaker You have just about eight minutes left. Hon. Zane J. S. De Si lva: Eight minutes. Okay. I have enough time. Mr. Speaker, last week the Honourable Michael Dunkley talked about Berkeley, how there had been overruns. He talked about, I don’t know, a few other projects that he felt …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Point of order. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yep, here he comes.
The Speaker The Speaker I knew you couldn’t resist that bait, could you?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons I couldn’t resist that bait.
The Speaker The Speaker You couldn’t resist it. All right. We will give you a point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons The Honourable Member knows . . . we have been around this one before. He is misleading the House. Those projects were much tighter than he suggests. He only needs to look at when the project actually began, as opposed to taking, for example, Tynes Bay, which was 10 years …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons So, Mr. Speaker, if the Honourable Member will persist, I am going to have to persist as well. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker I think he came prepared for that one. You must hav e known what he was going to say. Continue on now, Member. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, Mr. Speaker. It has been consistent. Now, I hope everybody heard what the Ho nourable Member said!
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: He said that that concept was 10 years before. Well, let me talk about Port Royal for a moment — 1740 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Everyone talks about …
The Speaker The Speaker All right, Members. Members! Me mbers! Hon. Zan e J. S. De Silva: You see? But that is what they do, Mr. Speaker.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: They mislead you! [Desk thumping]
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes! [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And I said over and over that there is a trust deficit with the OBA, and that is why they are the past and we are the future! [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? Were you getting up to leave, or were you getting up to speak?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I am getting up to speak.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2. Honourable Member Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Well, certainly, my co lleague is a hard act to f ollow.
The Speaker The Speaker We could have gone home, you know. You do not have to follow it. We could go home, you know. We still can.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I am one of the less passionate ones on this side. [Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I just wa nt to start off where the Honourable Member left off with regard to Port Royal to say that with regard to the redevelo pment of Port Royal . . . and I will declare my interest. I am a professional golfer by trade. And I owe my …
The Speaker The Speaker A lot of good golfers came from White Hill, you kno w.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Oh yes. Mr. Speaker, I will say that the vision for Port Royal by Dr. Brown was, indeed, one that has benefi tted Bermuda immensely, because if anyone were to look back in the mid- 2000s, and if anyone were to r efresh themselves even to 1998 from the Ettenberg …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, well, well, you can take your seat, Member. No, no, no, no, no, sit down. Sit down. Members, before you get up, I have cautioned everybody else tonight about not getting personal, do not skate on that ice. I know you know how to play the course.
Mr. H ubert (Kim) E. Swan I did misspeak, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I know you know how to play the course very well.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan No, I misspoke.
The Speaker The Speaker So stay out of the trouble area.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I appreciate that, and I accept that and I withdraw personal. Political . . . a political agenda that was targeted in one direction all the time. And I saw parallels between 2017 and 2007. I saw the same leader twice. I saw the same leader of the UBP …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Okay. And I am not going to spend it on Butterfield Lane (correction to you, Honourable Member ), up there in White Hill . You know, up there on the hill you go up past MaxiMart and go right over the hill, Butterfield Lane, geared- to-income houses. I know I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. [Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I have a lot of rel atives up there. Anchorage Apartments I would know a little bit about, Mr. Speaker. It is down in my constituency. I would know a lot about that. And I can tell you when I 1742 12 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Let me repeat that. They wanted change, but they only want to change the way people perceived them while they remained the same. [Inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, Member, Member. There is only one Member speaking.
Mr. Hubert (Kim ) E. Swan And, Mr. Speaker, that is a fundamental problem when it comes to race rel ations, when it comes to the income disparity, when it comes to the institutionalised racism, when it comes to the white privilege that is running rampant in this country t oday in 2018. And I do …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other — Thank you, Honourable Member. I thought we were going to get a change at the gavel, but . . . I recognise the Honourable Minister Caines. You have the floor. Hon. Wayne Cai nes: Mr. Speaker, today I had two things happen to me which made …
The Speaker The Speaker Respice Finem. Hon. Wayne Caines: Respice Finem —
The Speaker The Speaker There you go. Hon. Wayne Caines: —to use the Latin.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, if I can just tell you about an experience that I had today honouring our commitment to the people of Bermuda. Today I sat in a room as the team discussed the plan to meet on the 15 th with employers to hire 100 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member, Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe that it is the possibility of change in the fortunes of the black majority popul ation in this country …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, point of order?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons The Honourable Member has been around long enough. He knows he is not supposed to be i mputing improper motive, and he is certainly doing that now. Retract that. Hon. Michael J. Scott: I am not retracting. I am expressing a view of history as I see it.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, let me just do like I have done with everybody. Hon. Michael J. S cott: But, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, take your seat while I am doing it, please. Hon. Michael J. Scott: All right.
The Speaker The Speaker I will sit here and I am going to take a minute to just interject here. I was sitting here tonight actually reflecti ng on how the debate has gone when we stayed on a higher ground. There have been no personal attacks; when they were attempted I called people …
The Speaker The Speaker Member. Premier. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have had a long day and a long night. I am not going to take too long at all.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: But it is just my hope that the Honourable former Attorney General, Mr. Trevor Mo niz, does what is necessary so that he can come back into this Honourable House and answer for his actions. Mr. Speaker, all of the country, and especially Members …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, that bring us to the close and the House stands adjourned. But, I am just going to reiterate what I said earlier just now. I think the matter that was brought up on the motion to adjourn was one that could have gotten ver y emotionally emotive. We have …
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