The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning, Members . Members, the Minutes from the 2nd of March sitting have been circulated. Are there any omissions or amendments? No omissions or amendments. The Minutes have been approved. [Minutes of 2 March 2018 confirmed]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Minutes from the 5th of March have been deferred. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING HOUSE VISITORS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Good morning, Members. I would just like to first announce that we have in our presence today one of the members of the Youth Parliament, who will be paging for us this mor ning. It is young Ms. McKenzie [ Kohl-]Tuckett. And as a Youth Parliament member, she serves …
Yes. Good morning, Members. I would just like to first announce that we have in our presence today one of the members of the Youth Parliament, who will be paging for us this mor ning. It is young Ms. McKenzie [ Kohl-]Tuckett. And as a Youth Parliament member, she serves as the Shadow Minister of Sport and Home Affairs. So we welcome her this morning.
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood. We would also like to welcome, in our G allery, the P5 class of Port Royal, fifth grade, under the tut elage of M s. Shastri and Ms. McDonald . We welcome you t oday and hope that you enjoy your time with us here this morning, observing the …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOur third announcement would be that we have received acknowledgement from three of our Members that they wi ll be absent today: Minister Caines; t he Government Whip, Mr. Lawrence Scott; and MP Commissiong all have sent in notice that they will be absent today. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe have six papers to be presented to the House this morning. The first two are in the name of the Premier. Honourable Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. GOVERNMENT FEES (TRADE MARKS AND SERVICE MARKS) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to at-tach and submit for the consideration of the Honour able House of …
Good morning.
GOVERNMENT FEES (TRADE MARKS AND SERVICE MARKS) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018
Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to at-tach and submit for the consideration of the Honour able House of Assembly the Government Fees (Trade Marks and Service Marks) Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be made by the Minister of Finance under the provisions of section 2 of the Government Fees Act 1965.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Would you do the second one? GOVERNMENT FEES AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the 1442 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Bermuda …
Thank you. Would you do the second one?
GOVERNMENT FEES AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018
Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the 1442 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Government Fees Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be made by the Minister of Finance under the provisions of section 2 of the Go vernment Fees Act 1965.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. The next paper or communication is in the name of the Honourable Minister Weeks. Minister, would you like to present it? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker , good morning. Good morning, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. 2017 ANNUAL REPORT OF THE BERMUD A DRUG INFORMATION NETWORK (BerDIN) Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker , I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the 2017 Annual Report of the Bermuda Drug Information Networ …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerActually, there are four in your name. So you can continue on. BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDING 31 MARCH 2017 Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. I have the honour to attach a nd submit for the information of the Honour able House of …
Actually, there are four in your name. So you can continue on.
BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDING 31 MARCH 2017
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. I have the honour to attach a nd submit for the information of the Honour able House of Assembly the Bermuda Sport Anti - Doping Authority Audited Financial Statements for the Year Ending 31 March 2017.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Continue on. BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY 2017 ANNUAL REPORT Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker , I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Sport Anti-Doping Authority 2017 Annual Report.
Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerYes. BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOP ING AUTHORITY AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDING 31 MARCH 2016 Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Sport Anti -Doping Authority Audited Financial St atements for the …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNo further papers or communications. PETITIONS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerStatements by Ministers. We have two Statements this morning. And, Minister Weeks, it looks like you are on the floor again. Would you like to present your Stat ement? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker . [Pause] Hon. Micha el A. Weeks: It is a good thing I brought …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue, Minister. DECRIMINALISATION OF POSSESSION OF CANNABIS Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker , I rise this morning to inform Honourable Members that the Mi nistry of Social Development and Sport has launched a public awareness campaign on the decriminalisation of possession of small amounts of cannabis. On Monday, February …
Continue, Minister.
DECRIMINALISATION OF POSSESSION OF CANNABIS Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker , I rise this morning to inform Honourable Members that the Mi nistry of Social Development and Sport has launched a public awareness campaign on the decriminalisation of possession of small amounts of cannabis. On Monday, February 26, 2018, I formally started the campaign by holding a press conference at the AB Place Media Room in Global House in Hamilton. The intent of this Government to decriminalise the possession of cannabis was clearly stated in the September 2017 Speech from the Throne. Further, Honourable Members are reminded that this Honourable House passed the Misuse of Drugs (Decriminalisation of Cannabis ) Amendment Act 2017 on the 8th of December. Following passage of the Bill by the Senate on the 13th of December 2017, the Misuse of Drugs (Decriminalisation of Cannabis) Amendment Act 2017 came into effect on the 20th of December 2017. Mr. Speaker, to begin with, the public awar eness campaign wi ll run throughout the month of March 2018 and will likely be extended through April and May 2018. The campaign has been designed by the Department of Communications to have broad reach
Bermuda House of Assembly and features an array of communicat ion modes, i ncluding public service announcements over the radio; media interviews with radio hosts and journalists; s ocial media posts on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter; and CITV public service announcements and inter-views. Mr. Speaker, the campaign is underpinned by a public awareness fact sheet, which is available on the government portal at www.gov.bm . The fact sheet explains exactly what has been decriminalised. For the benefit of Honourable Members, I will outline the key messages in the fact sheet, w hich are part of the public awareness campaign. Mr. Speaker, it is very important to recognise that cannabis remains a controlled drug under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1972. The Misuse of Drugs (D ecriminalisation of Cannabis) Amendment Act 2017 does not legalise the use of cannabis in Bermuda. The public awareness fact sheet clarifies that what the Misuse of Drugs (Decriminalisation of Cannabis) Amendment Act 2017 actually did was to remove criminal offences for the simple possession by any person having 7 grams or less of cannabis. Misuse of Drugs (Decriminalisation of Cannabis) Amendment Act 2017 does not make it legal for a person to co nsume, cultivate, traffic , or import cannabis in any quantity. The benefit of the decimalisation of cannabis is that a per son cannot be subjected to criminal prosecution for simple possession of 7 grams or less of cannabis. Mr. Speaker, it is our hope and our belief that taking this important action will help to prevent our young people, in particular our young black men, f rom being placed on the proverbial “ stop list ” and having their lives completely altered by virtue of not being able to travel to the United States to pursue further education and/or to seek other opportunities. At the same time, Mr. Speaker, it is important for Honourable Members and the listening public to understand that the Misuse of Drugs (Decriminalisation of Cannabis) Amendment Act 2017 does not provide any guarantee that a person will not be stopped when attempting to travel into the United States of America for any reason, including if that person already has a prior conviction for simple possession of cannabis. Such mat-ters are outside of the control of the Government of Bermuda. Let me restate, Mr. Speaker: The Amendment Act does not erase prior criminal convictions in co nnection with cannabis that were in effect before the Act came into force. Mr. Speaker, with regard to minors, it is not our intent to remove parental responsibility, which must remain in the hands of parents, who, using their best judgment and the best information that is avail able to them, should provide guidance to their children regarding substance use and misuse. However, the Amendment Act provides the Minister of Social D evelopment and Sport with the power to make regul a-tions in relation to substance abuse education or treatment for any person, and in particular a minor who is found to possess any amount of cannabis. I intend to seek Cabinet’s approval in the new future for the Attorney General’s Chambers to draft such regul ations. Mr. Speaker, in addition to what has already been stated, Honourable Members are reminded that a police officer of any rank has the lawful authority to seize any amount of cannabis in the possession of any person. Thus, the Amendment Act does not di-minish the power of the police to seize cannabis from any person, including young persons, as currently provided for under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1972. Mr. Speaker, I also wish to advise Honourable Members and the public that the Director of Public Prosecutions has confirmed that the caution policy that was issued by him in February of 2017 regarding simple possession of less than 3 grams of cannabis no longer has effect. Mr. Speaker, it should be noted that, in para llel with efforts to raise public awareness on the d ecriminalisation of possession of cannabis, Gover nment will continue to raise public awareness in rel ation to health risks associated with substance abuse in adolescents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The next S tatement is that in the name of the Honourable Minister of Health. Minister Wilson, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. REVIEW OF HEALTH COSTS AND CONVERTING THE BERMUDA HOSP ITALS BOARD FEES TO THE RELATIVE VALUE SYSTEM Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker , I rise today to highlight to this Honourable House and the public my Ministry’s intention to undertake a significant modernisation of the Bermuda Hospitals …
Thank you.
REVIEW OF HEALTH COSTS AND CONVERTING THE BERMUDA HOSP ITALS BOARD FEES TO THE RELATIVE VALUE SYSTEM Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker , I rise today to highlight to this Honourable House and the public my Ministry’s intention to undertake a significant modernisation of the Bermuda Hospitals Board Fees in the coming months. You will recall that during my budget presentation last week I noted that we have begun the lo ngneeded review of BHB’s fees, following years of com-plaints from a variety of stakeholders about the level of these fee rates, which are regulated under the Bermuda Hospitals Board (Hospital Fees) Regul ations. These r egulations are updated annually , when the premiums are set, to ensure that the premiums can absorb any fee changes. Updates to these regul ations have not, to date, taken into account how the delivery of medicine has evolved, or of changes in the complexity or simplifications thereof. However, Mr. Speaker , this year we are taking the review much further to account for such changes. 1444 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker , this Government’s intention is to convert the BHB fees to a rati onal, standardis ed methodology based on an internationally accepted standard founded on the relative value of procedures. For example, Mr. Speaker , removing tonsils has a relative value unit [RVU] of 8.25. C ompare that, Mr. Speaker , to treating a lower jaw fracture, which has a RVU of 34.62. RVUs weight procedures according to their complexi ty. At present , some BHB fees are priced higher than international benchmarks, while others are priced much lower. The intent is to remove this discrepancy by applying a rational, internationally accepted standard to set BHB’s fees. In the 2017 Throne Spe ech, the Government stated, “The cost of healthcare is a major expense for the government and private employers, which reduces our global competitiveness. Cost reduction will lead to savings that will promote economic growth.” We committed at that time to launching a “comprehensive review of healthcare costs in Bermuda and will seek to extract savings throughout the entire healthcare sy stem.” We are committed to doing so, but intend to proceed with a phased approach that will address the Bermuda Hospitals B oard [BHB] at this point. Why? Mr. Speaker , our community invests the lar gest propor tion of all health spending (approximately 46 per cent ) on local hospi talisation. Therefore, if we wish to control health costs , we have to address the largest part of the health system. Our hospital is a vital component of our health system. It has to succeed to ensure that vital care is delivered, and part of managing that success requires that we pay fair fees for ser-vices. Further, BHB’s fees are already set by the Gove rnment. Unlike private entities, BHB’s fees are laid in this House under Regulations, so it is a natural place to begin a comprehensive review of health care costs. Mr. Speaker , several health care reviews conducted over the past 18 years have recommended that Bermuda adopt a more transparent and rational mechanism to set fees. Specifically, in 2004, a report by Ernst and Young recommended conversion to the Resource- Based Relative Value Scale (RBRVS), widely used in the U nited States, as well as other j urisdictions. And , in 2009, a review commissioned by Pricew aterhouseCooper s [PwC] also recommended that Bermuda consider use of the same ResourceBased Relative Value Scale system to set our local fees. Importantly, Mr. Speaker , these reviews were speaking only of fees that are already regulated by the Government —not all health care fees. In the context of the current review in particular, we are focused only on BHB and standard health benefit fees. Mr. Speaker , the House should be aware that Bermuda has alr eady begun utilis ing the RBRVS methodology for regulated fees. After a three- year period of development and consultation, in 2015, the Bermuda Health Council applied the methodology to a small schedule of fees for diagnostic imaging proc edures. At the time this conversion took place, some fees went up—for example, mammography —and some went down—for example, x -rays. But overall , the transition was designed to be cost -neutral to the health system. That is, overall, the health system spent approximately the same on diagnostic imaging with the old fees as with the new fees ; but the new fees reflect the complexity of each procedure. We are now undertaking to do the same exercise with BHB’s fees in a way that is revenue neutral to the hospital , compared to the current 2017/18 fiscal year projected revenue. This means, Mr. Speaker , that some fees will go up and some will go down. This is indicative that some of our services, based on the RVU scale of complexity, are currently undervalued, while others require downw ard adjustment. But at the end of the year, if the system continues to serve the same types of pat ients as seen this current year , and our demographic profile does not drastically change over the next 12 months, it is projected that the amount spent on hos pital care will remain relatively the same as it would have been under the old fee structure. Mr. Speaker , the purpose of this change is as a first step to deliver on the Government’s promise to review health care costs, which, in the long term, will allow us to contain insurance premiums. At present , Mr. Speaker, we know how much we are spending overall , which is $701 million in total, or just over $11,000 per person. That is with respect to our most recent figures. But we do not know if we are spending it wisely or whether we are paying fairly. To enable us to understand truly what we are spending on and to measure whether we are spending it properly, we need a rational fee system. The RBRVS method can move us in the right direction and provide us a stro nger foundation for evaluating our services and programmes. However, it remains clear that much other work will remain, such as redirecting care to appropriate providers, reducing unnec essary utilisation and, of course, becoming a healthier pop ulation that needs fewer health care interventions. Mr. Speaker , the resource- based relative va lue scale is a payment system used by most public and private insurers in the U nited States , as well as by the US hospitals and practices that we partner with for our compl ex care. The RBRVS is based on the princ iple that payments for services should reflect the cost of providing those services , and should be able to be compared from institution to institution and between locations. It was developed to improve and sta bilise payment systems , and it is updated annually with extensive physician input to adjust the value or weight of the procedures. The methodology assigns a relative value unit, or RVU, to health care procedure codes , which are called CPT codes. Bermuda already uses these CPT codes to document and bill for treatment in offi cBermuda House of Assembly es, in clinics , and at the hospital. Local health insurers rely on these CPT codes in their systems to process claims. Notably, Mr. Speaker , the RVU is not a fee or price , itself. Rather, it i s a weight assigned to medical procedures based on their complexity , according to the physician ’s work, the practice expense, and the professional liability. RVUs are used in the U nited States , Australia, the US Virgin Islands, Taiwan, Ca nada, and South Af rica. Mr. Speaker , in order to generate a fee, or price , from RVUs, jurisdictions apply the Geographic Practice Cost Index, which allows for adjustments in prices according to the local cost of providing services. In addition, a locally based conversion f actor will take into account the cost of living in Bermuda. This is a complex technical process , but it has the benefit of being transparent and internationally ac-cepted. Naturally, local available data and input are used to determine the local conversion factor and ot her geographic indices. Mr. Speaker , I have tasked the Bermuda Health Council with undertaking this work on behalf of the Ministry of Health, as they have the technical expertise to calculate the fees. We have been working with BHB on this tr ansition and will shortly undertake consultation with stakeholders who are impacted by BHB’s fees, including other standard health benefit providers and insurers. This is a very large undertaking, Mr. Speaker , but it is one that we must face and complete expeditiously if we are to achieve the difficult task of controlling health costs and, in the long term, containing i nsurance rates. We have to start by aligning our costs with the value of the services and ensure that there are fairness and transparency i n our health system. Mr. Speaker , the Bermuda Health Strategy, which is our national health plan, is committed to controlling health costs, and includes a goal to develop mechanisms to pay health care providers in ways that improve efficiency and sustaina bility. This work, and the Throne Speech commitment to undertake a review of health care fees , are well overdue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. No further Statements. We can move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are no written questions for t oday. However, we have one Member who has indica ted that he would like to put a question in regard to the Statements that were delivered this morning. The question would be to the Honourable Mi nister Weeks, and the question will come …
There are no written questions for t oday. However, we have one Member who has indica ted that he would like to put a question in regard to the Statements that were delivered this morning. The question would be to the Honourable Mi nister Weeks, and the question will come from the Honourable Member from constituency 22. Honourable Member Gibbons, you have the floor. And, remember, the question period is an hour, and we are starting at 10:26. Continue.
QUESTION 1: DECRI MINALISATION OF POSSESSION OF CANNABIS
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsThank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Mr. Speaker, on page 3 of the Honourable Member’s Statement on the decriminalisation of cannabis for less than 7 grams, he says, “Mr. Speaker, it is our hope and our belief that taking this important action will help to prevent our young people, …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Mr. Speaker, on page 3 of the Honourable Member’s Statement on the decriminalisation of cannabis for less than 7 grams, he says, “Mr. Speaker, it is our hope and our belief that taking this important action will help to prevent our young people, in par-ticular our young black men, from being placed on the proverbial ‘stop list ’ and having their lives completely altered by virtue of not being able to travel to the Uni ted States to pursue further education and/or to seek other opportunities.” Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Honourable Member could share any recent conversations that he has had with the US Consulate in Bermuda, now that this legislation is actually in place, with respect to their perspective on the stop list , and this legislation in particular. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Hold on one second, Minister, I am just let ting the page come back over . . . y ou can stay on this side for the time being. Thank you. Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Up …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Hold on one second, Minister, I am just let ting the page come back over . . . y ou can stay on this side for the time being. Thank you. Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Up to this point, I have just taken over the Ministry. So I have not had the opportunity yet to talk to the Ameri can Consul. But when and if I do, I will definitely bring the results of such conversation to the House.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Member, supplementary or new question?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsMr. Speaker, I guess I would ask the Member why he believes it is his belief that taking this important action will help this if he has not actually had any discussions with the US Cons ulate here. I think we all recognise that, under Federal US Law, marijuana cannabis …
Mr. Speaker, I guess I would ask the Member why he believes it is his belief that taking this important action will help this if he has not actually had any discussions with the US Cons ulate here. I think we all recognise that, under Federal US Law, marijuana cannabis is still, I think, a [Sche dule] I controlled substance. So, that perspective has 1446 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly not changed. Perhaps the Honourable Member could give us a little bit more information on this .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Oh, Premier. Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am answering for the Mini ster, as external affairs falls under the remit of the Cabinet Of fice. And what I can let the Member know is that those discussions …
Thank you, Member. Minister. Oh, Premier. Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am answering for the Mini ster, as external affairs falls under the remit of the Cabinet Of fice. And what I can let the Member know is that those discussions have been had. But the issue is not necessarily whether or not the discussions have been had; the fact is very plain and simple. If there is no conviction, there is no notification.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary or new question?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerLet us do the supplementary first. I recognise the Honourable Member Cole S imons. Honourable Member, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsThank you, Mr. Speaker. When I was Minister, I spoke to the US Consul General on that. And s he indicated to me that she had seen draft legislation . . .
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberPut the question! [Inaudible interjections ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGive him time. He is making his question. Go ahead; formulate your question.
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsShe had seen this draft legi slation and was taking an opinion from the US Attorney General’s Office. So the question that should be asked is, has the American Consul General received an opinion from the US Atto rney General in regard to the legisl ation that we are putting …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.Though I have many talents, one is not changing my persona. I cannot answer ques tions for the US Consul General.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary, anyone? No supplementary. We will move back to Honourable Member Gibbons for his second question. QUESTION 2: DECRIMINALISATION OF POSSESSION OF CANNABIS
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, along similar lines, but I will put it in a new question. Mr. Speaker, all of us are aware that the US authorities here have not necessarily r elied on a conviction to put somebody on the stop list.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberExactly!
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsAnd I am wondering whether there has been any discussion as to . . . I mean, the drug is still illegal in Bermuda. And whether there has been any sense that this is actually going to make much of a difference, I think w e all understand, clearly, if …
And I am wondering whether there has been any discussion as to . . . I mean, the drug is still illegal in Bermuda. And whether there has been any sense that this is actually going to make much of a difference, I think w e all understand, clearly, if you are arrested, it is public, or if you are charged.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsBut I am curious as to whether there has been anything which would suggest that there has been a change in direction with respect to the US Government’s approach with Bermuda em igration. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, thank you. I think I answered the question the first time, but it just sounds like I get the same question, just put up a different way. I have not had the opportunity yet to speak to the American Consul …
Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, thank you. I think I answered the question the first time, but it just sounds like I get the same question, just put up a different way. I have not had the opportunity yet to speak to the American Consul General. But I will say that anything that we do to help try to save our young black men is a step in the right direction. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons: Supplementary, yes, Mr. Speaker.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsThe Honourable Member did not answer my question. I am quite happy to have the Premier to answer the question, since he seems to have had additional conversations with the US au-thorities here. The question is, you do not require a criminal conviction here to be put on the stop …
The Honourable Member did not answer my question. I am quite happy to have the Premier to answer the question, since he seems to have had additional conversations with the US au-thorities here. The question is, you do not require a criminal conviction here to be put on the stop list. Has there been any discuss ion, any discussion with the US a uthorities which suggests that this change in legislation will have them take a different perspective? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Mr. Premier, I think he put the question to you. Would you like to r espond? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the question has already been answered to the Member . I have not seen . . . if he wants to change how he asks it, …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsMr. Speaker, the Honourable Member did not answer the question. So, hopefully, when things change he will come back to the House, after having (I will say) a further discussion with the US authorities, to let us know whether this is going to make much of a difference or not. …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary from the Honourable Member, Ms. Jackson. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThank you, Mr. Speaker, yes. So, my question to the Minister is, has the Minister considered some kind of protection, identity protection, for minors or young adults who may be identified as having possession of cannabis, and r efraining from publicly stating their name in any way, shape, or form, …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, yes. So, my question to the Minister is, has the Minister considered some kind of protection, identity protection, for minors or young adults who may be identified as having possession of cannabis, and r efraining from publicly stating their name in any way, shape, or form, in much the same way that we refrain and protect the identity of children of abuse?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minors are protected right across the board, generally speaking. So I do not think that we would treat any minors that are caught with possession of cannabis any differently.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. JacksonSo, this kind of protection of identity would probably [need to] be something that would be legislated, because this would be something that says that, if there was an arrest on a weekend, then any kind of newspaper, any other sort of official news agency or channel of communication would …
So, this kind of protection of identity would probably [need to] be something that would be legislated, because this would be something that says that, if there was an arrest on a weekend, then any kind of newspaper, any other sort of official news agency or channel of communication would not be able t o identify a young person caught with small amounts, or possession, of cannabis.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Okay. We have got another supplementary to you. It is from the Leader of the Opposition. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is t o the Minister. I am going on my memory, but it would seem to me that when we made one of the changes, …
Thank you, Member. Okay. We have got another supplementary to you. It is from the Leader of the Opposition.
SUPPLEMENTARIES
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is t o the Minister. I am going on my memory, but it would seem to me that when we made one of the changes, it was indicating that those young persons, especially if they were caught more than once, would be subject to some sort of drug education. And what I am trying to determine is, obviously, when you start to have that, you have to keep track of them, and make sure that they go through the process. You still need to make sure that there is some sort of protection. And I just wanted to make sure that somethi ng was in train for that.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Statement, it said that any child, any minor who is caught with any amount of cannabis is subject to drug education by a police officer, by any authority figure. So, yes, yes. According to what I said …
Thank you. Minister.
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Statement, it said that any child, any minor who is caught with any amount of cannabis is subject to drug education by a police officer, by any authority figure. So, yes, yes. According to what I said in my Statement, any young person is subject to drug education.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSupplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Supplementary, yes.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSecond supplementary, Honourable Member, the Leader of the Opposition. 1448 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Just so that I am clear, it is not so much having the drug education, but the pr otection of their identities. And I think that …
Second supplementary, Honourable Member, the Leader of the Opposition.
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Just so that I am clear, it is not so much having the drug education, but the pr otection of their identities. And I think that is what my colleague was trying to get across, to make sure that, especia lly at that age, there is some measure of pr otection of their identity.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPut it in a question. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So, can the Minister confirm that, in addition to making sure that these indivi duals have drug education, something is put in place to protect their identities because they are minors?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Supplementary? Okay. We will take a supplementary from the Honourable Member. Mrs. Gordon- Pamplin, y ou have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinThank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member answered Yes. Could the Honourable Member be specific in terms of exactly what has been put in place?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. I recognise t he Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member Scott. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All Members of the Opposition putting these probing questions really should just read the Bill again. We cannot legislate on the seat of our pants, here in the …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMember, I recognised you, but the Mi nister or Premier or a Minister will respond. You have to put your comment in a question. Hon. Michael J. Scott: I will p ose the question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Have Members of the Opposition, all who have put their last few …
Member, I recognised you, but the Mi nister or Premier or a Minister will respond. You have to put your comment in a question.
Hon. Michael J. Scott: I will p ose the question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Have Members of the Opposition, all who have put their last few questions, read the Bill? Will they confirm that the Bill —
[Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Michael J. Scott: Will they confirm, Mr. Speaker, that t hey recognise that the Bill contains no el ements, as framed and drafted, of secrecy or keeping the names of any person arrested secret, for all of the purposes that they are pointing to?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMember, I did allow some leniency, because I asked you to put it into a question. But the question should go to the reader of the Statement. And that would be to the Minister. So the question has to go to the Minister. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank …
Member, I did allow some leniency, because I asked you to put it into a question. But the question should go to the reader of the Statement. And that would be to the Minister. So the question has to go to the Minister.
Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank you. I know the Minister is able to rise and answ er the question. But it is a rhetorical question. It is meant to assist the House with all of these questions that are amounting, Mr. Speaker, to redrafting the Bill.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, let me be clear, if I may. One of my colleagues has reminded me about the regulations that will be accompanying this Bill. So, like my colleague who just sat down . . . [there] was a full and …
Thank you. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, let me be clear, if I may. One of my colleagues has reminded me about the regulations that will be accompanying this Bill. So, like my colleague who just sat down . . . [there] was a full and hearty debate in December. And everything was discussed. But I have to remind people that, as in my Statement, regulations will accompany the Bill.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Any supplementary? Supplementary or new question?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. QUESTION 3: DECRIMINALISATION OF POSSESSION OF CANNABIS
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsOn page 4, the Honourable Member reminds people that a police officer of any rank has the lawful authority to seize any amount of cannabis in the possession of any person, including young persons. Could the Honourable Member share with us, since the legislation has been brought into force, the …
On page 4, the Honourable Member reminds people that a police officer of any rank has the lawful authority to seize any amount of cannabis in the possession of any person, including young persons. Could the Honourable Member share with us, since the legislation has been brought into force, the number of both aged people and young people who have had cannabis seized from them? Has there been any increase or trend in the amount of stops or seizures? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, I will seek to get that information, and I will bring it. Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. JacksonTo the Minister: Will there be, or would you please provide, statistics on any cannabis-induced psychosis, including diagnosis of schiz ophrenia, which may now be on- Island due to this?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMember, I am not sure if that relates to the Statement that was read, though. [Inaudible interjections ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIt may be outside of the parameters of the Statement. Supplementary? Yes, go ahead. I recognise the Honourable Member Baron. [Inaudible interjections ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Ms. Susan E. JacksonMr. Speaker, the very last sentence on the Statement, and I am very glad to see it ther e, says, “Government will continue to raise pu blic awareness in relation to health risks associated with substance abuse in adolescents.” And that is a new sentence that has been added, and …
Mr. Speaker, the very last sentence on the Statement, and I am very glad to see it ther e, says, “Government will continue to raise pu blic awareness in relation to health risks associated with substance abuse in adolescents.” And that is a new sentence that has been added, and I appreciate that the Government has been listening. And that is where my question has risen.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd being you pointed it out, I stand corrected. The [Statement] opens up a conversation in reference to the health issue. Your ques tion speaks to the health issue, s o continue with your question. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. JacksonThank you. So, if the Minister can provide to the House statistics on any cannabis -induced psychosis, including diagnosis of schizophrenia, of any people who have been diagnosed with a psychosis based on cannabis use.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will undertake to get that information. But can I read something from my Statement?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSure. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: It says, “Government will continue to raise public awareness in relat ion to health risks associated with substance abuse in adolescents.” But I will undertake to get any other information that has been asked for, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Honourable Member Baron, would you like to put your question now?
Mr. Jeff BaronAnd for the benefit of the House and for the Minister, the research is just here. You have tabled the book. The stats are here. My question— An Hon. M ember: Why do you ask the question? [Inaudible interjections ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerLet him put his question. Let him put his question, gentlemen. He has the floor. The Honourable Member has the floor. [Crosstalk]
Mr. Jeff BaronClearly, the Minister should k now. He has tabled it. Clearly, the Minister should know. He has tabled it, Premier. Premier, the Mini ster should know. He has tabled the book. [Desk thumping and inaudible interjections ]
Mr. Jeff BaronYes, yes, yes. I love it when the Premier flirts with me. Mr. Speaker, my question. My question is this, because I support the intent of this Bill, and I have been on record for supporting it. Can the Honourable Minister please, Mr. Speaker, tell us, because we have talked …
Yes, yes, yes. I love it when the Premier flirts with me. Mr. Speaker, my question. My question is this, because I support the intent of this Bill, and I have been on record for supporting it. Can the Honourable Minister please, Mr. Speaker, tell us, because we have talked about supply -side, what he pla ns on d oing, what the Honourable Minister plans on doing to disrupt demand side? Because in the book (again, that he has tabled today), Mr. Speaker, it is very clear that cannabis use is on the rise. And cannabis is the drug of choice for Bermuda. So, please, if the Honourable Minister will let us know what he is going to do to disrupt the demand for this drug.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister. 1450 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael A. Weeks: As the Minister, I will def initely help to continue to educate and bring public awareness of the facts of marijuana smoking.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Any further supplementaries? Any further supplementaries? And the Member who put the ques-tion has used his three questions. So that brings us to the end of the question period. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWould any Member like to speak to this? I recognise the Honourable Premier. Honourable Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask that the House extend condolences to the family of a past war veteran, Mr. Herbert James …
Would any Member like to speak to this? I recognise the Honourable Premier. Honourable Premier, you have the floor.
Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask that the House extend condolences to the family of a past war veteran, Mr. Herbert James Tatem, who passed away at the age of 95. I will associate all Members of the House, who, I am sure, will acknowledge his service. Mr. Tatem demonstrated at a very early age his commitment to defending Bermuda, signing on to fight in the Second World War by adding a year to his age and joining at the tender age of 16. His dedication to Bermuda was seen throughout his life, and in March 1946, he was discharged and rejoined HA&E Smith [and Sons] Ltd, where he had been previously employed. At 84, Mr. Tatem’s autobiography was published, and in 2013, his memoirs were placed alon gside other historic documents in a time capsule at the War Memorial on the grounds of the Cabinet Of fice. On behalf of the Government and the people of Bermuda, of course, we would like to recognise and acknowledge Mr. Tatem for his service, and of course, ask that condolences and the thoughts and prayers of all of us be with his family during this diff icult time. On a matter of congratulations, Mr. Speaker, it is always good to celebrate the successes of Berm udians overseas. And I think that the entire House would like to be associated with the remarks to congratulate two- time Olympian, Ms. Arantxa Kin g, who has been admitted to the New York State Bar, being sworn in last month. Ms. King is a graduate of the Georgetown University Law Center, and has repr esented Bermuda in the Long Jump at the 2008 Beijing Games and the 2012 Beijing Games. We send congratulations, of course, to Ms. King and her family for her continued academic success. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak to congratulations or condolences? No other Member? I recognise the H onour able Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, on the last session of the …
Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak to congratulations or condolences? No other Member? I recognise the H onour able Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, on the last session of the House, Members of the House both made fulsome offers of condolences for the passing of the former Member of this House; in fact, we observed the passing, in the usual way, of Margaret Kim Young. I would like to rise to be associated, Mr. Speaker, with all of those condo-lences, formally. Ms. Margaret Kim Young’s passing was both saddening for me and a shock. And I had just seen Kim not less than a month before on Victoria Street. And we stopped, and we embraced, and chatted and spoke about this and that. And we promised that we would see each other the next day at the funeral services for the other former Member of this House, the Honourable Quinton Edness, CBE. And we saw each other there. And so, when on Monday, I heard of her pas sing, I was both shocked and saddened. And I was r eminded all day of some words that I had read in a Times obituary, produced by a gentleman who, no doubt, had had a similar kind of experience, of the loss of a loved one in sudden circumstances. And the words that he wrote in the Times article were as follows: This bespeaks of much wealth and peace that breaks within, but does not reveal without why the woman dies. I felt this way about Margaret Kim Young’s passing. And I offer to Ward Young . . . I believe I am correct in saying that Ward sat in this House?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNo, no, no. Hon. Michael J. Scott: He certainly ran for, went for elections and was active in his civic life of the country that he and his wife, Kim, loved. Mr. Speaker, both Kim Young and her husband Ward, and Kim Young in particular, partnered, Mr. Speaker, in one …
No, no, no.
Hon. Michael J. Scott: He certainly ran for, went for elections and was active in his civic life of the country that he and his wife, Kim, loved. Mr. Speaker, both Kim Young and her husband Ward, and Kim Young in particular, partnered, Mr. Speaker, in one of the most significant commerci al exercises in Bermuda when they transferred old white Bermuda wealth to a black Bermuda wealth in the person of “ Boo” Wendell Brown. And this was so si gnificant and shall remain significant. They did so out of a will of their humanity, both Ward’s and Ki m’s, and in order to make this country take a step forward. And for those kinds of actions , we underscore Kim Young’s contribution to her country, because she took these brave and courageous acts. They indeed were profiles in courage and acts of courage by them. And so, I associate myself with the condolences to her husband and children.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak on condolences and congratulations? Bermuda House of Assembly I recognise the Honourable Member Dunkley. Honourable Member Dunkley, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too want to be associated with …
Thank you, Member. Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak on condolences and congratulations?
Bermuda House of Assembly I recognise the Honourable Member Dunkley. Honourable Member Dunkley, you have the floor.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too want to be associated with the condolences already provided by Members of the House to former colleague, Kim Young. She was not a natural politician, but she took to it and certainly made an outstanding contribution. She was never afraid to speak, and it was certainly a real surprise to learn of her passing, having just seen her a couple of weeks prior when she was on the Island. So, to her family, condolences during this very difficult period. I would also like this Honourable House to extend condolences to Pat and Henry Hayward— Mr. Hayward was a former Member of this House— on the passing of their son, John Kenneth Henry Hayward, a couple of weeks ago, at a relatively young age. And I would like to associate the Honourable Member from constituency 2, Kim Swan, and Members on our side, on the passing of John Henry Hayward. As we get older, 52– 53 is a young age, so he was still at a rel atively young age and gone very suddenly at that, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, to continue on with condolences, I would like this Honourable Chamber to send condo-lences to the family of Phyllis Joyce Gwendolyn Bell Williams, who passed away last week. I had the pleasure of going to the celebration of life ceremony. Ms. Bell Williams was from the heart of the country in Devonshire. And I had known the family for a long time, a large family, a typical large Bermudian family. And one of the pleasures of Ms. Bell Williams’ life wa s to make sure she had all of her family around. She had nine children. I think it was 27 grandchildren and more than 40 great -grandchildren. And up until the day of her passing, she still made sure she stayed in touch. And one of the finer pleasures of her life, Mr. Speaker, was to cook for her family and to be involved in family functions. And so, the celebration of her life was a real celebration, where family talked about the good times they had together growing up in Bermuda. And so, condolences to the family, and specifically her daughter, Cecily Smith, who is a constituent of mine. I would like to tag on with the Honourable Premier in sending congratulations to Ms. King on being called to the bar. To see young Bermudians get called to the bar and con tinuing on in their life to a higher reward is certainly gratifying. And being called to the New York Bar is an honour in itself, because my daughter was called to the New York Bar a couple of years ago. And I look forward to seeing Ms. King back in Bermuda sometime, to work right here on home soil. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to request the Hous e to record a note of condolences for the family of Alfred Augustus. Mr. Augustus ––I think the Augustus family is …
Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to request the Hous e to record a note of condolences for the family of Alfred Augustus. Mr. Augustus ––I think the Augustus family is well known to this House and to the community in a number of ways, and a number of Members ––I think I am going to associate the whole House wi th this.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I think we all know the Augustus family well.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Alfred Augustus was one of their senior members. I had a chance very recently to see him and speak with him as he was in care in a home within my district. And, obviously, it is always humbling to see many of our senior …
Yes.
Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Alfred Augustus was one of their senior members. I had a chance very recently to see him and speak with him as he was in care in a home within my district. And, obviously, it is always humbling to see many of our senior people whom at one point you saw as somewhat larger than life, then their years when they are in decline. But I just want to raise, to pass on condolen ces to the family. Mr. Augustus was a wonderful ge ntleman, whom I often talked with on occasion. And I am sure his family is mourning his passing. So, with that, I will take my seat, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 22. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be associated with the condolences to the family of Mr. Tatem. He was actually a constituent of mine for a number of years before Paget East moved west. He lived down there at the foot of the lane where …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be associated with the condolences to the family of Mr. Tatem. He was actually a constituent of mine for a number of years before Paget East moved west. He lived down there at the foot of the lane where Gary Phillips lives now, a little cottage with his wife. And I think, as the paper said this morning in a very nice write -up, he was a real gentleman. His wife is lovely, as well. The cottage was gorgeous. They were good in terms of keeping the gardens up, and I think certainly he will be sadly, sadly missed. Mr. Speaker, while I am on my feet, I would also l ike to be associated with the condolences to the family of Henry Hayward, on the passing of their son, John Henry, and also associated with the congratul ations to Arantxa King. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Weeks. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1452 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I would first like to be associated with the …
Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Weeks. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1452 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly I would first like to be associated with the condolences for Mr. Alfred Augustus. I too know the Augustus family, like most everybody here. We know the Augustus family well. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask that a note of congratulatory remarks and a letter be sent to Mr. Gladwin “Roots” Phillips. He is a sensei in the martial arts. And this past Sunday, he held a tournament f or the Sensei Dojo tournament, in which over 60 persons took part, Mr. Speaker. And most of those persons were young people. So I always like to let people know when our young people are actually doing well. Mr. Speaker, this tournament over the years kind of dwindled. But this is the biggest one that has been held in a long, long time. So again, I would like to take my hat off, and have this House send a letter to Mr. Gladwin “Roots” Phillips on a job well done. And I would like to associate—
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: His brother -in-law!
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: —his brother -in-law, MP from constituency 29. Thank you.
[Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2. Honourable Member Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanYes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, I would like to be associated with the condolences offered by the Member from constituency 10, Honourable Member Dunkley, on t he passing of Mr. Hayward. But also, I would like to be associated with the condolences that were offered …
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, I would like to be associated with the condolences offered by the Member from constituency 10, Honourable Member Dunkley, on t he passing of Mr. Hayward. But also, I would like to be associated with the condolences that were offered at another sitting that I may not have been here, last week, for the passing of Ms. Rose Edith Burchall, who was for many years my neighbour down ther e in North Shore, St. George’s. A longstanding St. George’s family —I know her children and late husband very well. And I just wanted to be ass ociated with the condolences offered to her family on her passing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank yo u. Thank you. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Honourable Member wishes to speak? We will move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe have three Government Bills to be introduced today. Premier, I believe all three are in your name. FIRST READINGS BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Indeed, Mr. Speaker, they are. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it …
We have three Government Bills to be introduced today. Premier, I believe all three are in your name.
FIRST READINGS
BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2018
Hon. E. David Burt: Indeed, Mr. Speaker, they are. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2018.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Continue on. COST OF LIVING COMMISSION AMENDMENT ACT 2018 CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have two other Bills that I will be introducing for their first reading so that they may also be placed on the Order Paper for the next …
Thank you. Continue on.
COST OF LIVING COMMISSION AMENDMENT ACT 2018
CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2018
Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have two other Bills that I will be introducing for their first reading so that they may also be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the Cost of Living Commi ssion Amendment Act 2018; and the Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2018.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe are now, Members, at the point of Orders of the Day. We are going to resume in Committee of Supply for the further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2018/19. I recognise the Honourable Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. …
We are now, Members, at the point of Orders of the Day. We are going to resume in Committee of Supply for the further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2018/19. I recognise the Honourable Premier.
Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now resume in Committee of Supply to consider the Est imates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2018/19.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. And for the awareness of the li stening audience, I would just li ke to say that today is day 5 of the continuing Budget Debate. And we have two ministries up for the debate today, the first being the Ministry of Finance. There are four hours allotted for …
Yes. And for the awareness of the li stening audience, I would just li ke to say that today is day 5 of the continuing Budget Debate. And we have two ministries up for the debate today, the first being the Ministry of Finance. There are four hours allotted for that debate. When we [finish] with it the second debate will be on Community and Culture. And there are another four hours allotted for that one. Mr. Premier, would you like to move us into Committee? Oh, you did, did you not? So, Member, would you like to come and take the Chair? We recognise the Honourable Member Jackson. She will start off as chairing the first section this morning for us.
House in Committee at 10:59 am
[Ms. Susan E. Jackson, Chairman]
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY
ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2018/19 [Continuation thereof]
The Chai rman: Good morning, Honourable Members. We are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expend iture for the year 2018/19. This morning, we will be debating Finance, Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. I call on the Minist er in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor.
Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move the following heads —Head 10, Ministry of Finance Headquarters; Head 12, Customs Revenue; Head 38, Office of the Tax Commissioner; and Head 58, Interest on Debt — be now taken under consideration.
The ChairmanChairmanPlease proceed. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. MINISTRY OF FINANCE HEAD 10 —MINISTRY OF FINANCE HEADQUARTERS Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Chairman, the 2018/19 Estimates for the Ministry of Finance Headquarters, Head 10, may be found in section B of the Estimates Book on pages B -99 …
Please proceed.
Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
MINISTRY OF FINANCE
HEAD 10 —MINISTRY OF FINANCE HEADQUARTERS
Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Chairman, the 2018/19 Estimates for the Ministry of Finance Headquarters, Head 10, may be found in section B of the Estimates Book on pages B -99 through B -102, and in section C on pages C -10, Capital Acquisitions; and C -16, Cap ital Grants, or Grants. The Finance Ministry c omprises six depar tments, led by the Ministry of Finance Headquarters, and includes the Accountant General, Cus toms Rev enue, Social Insurance, the Office of the Tax Commi ssioner , and the Registrar of Companies . Madam Chairman, can you give me a second, please?
[Pause] Hon. E. David Burt: My apologies, Madam Chairman. I am just going to take a seat so that the Honourable Member can pass.
[Pause]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberThank you. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. E. David Burt: No problem. The Ministry of Finance comprises six departments, led by the Ministry of Finance Headquarters, and includes the Accountant General, Cus toms Revenue, Social Insurance, the Office of the Tax Commissioner and the Registrar of Companies . Allocations to cover the …
Thank you. [Inaudible interjection]
Hon. E. David Burt: No problem. The Ministry of Finance comprises six departments, led by the Ministry of Finance Headquarters, and includes the Accountant General, Cus toms Revenue, Social Insurance, the Office of the Tax Commissioner and the Registrar of Companies . Allocations to cover the interest on government debt and contributions to the Sinking Fund are also included in the Finance Ministry budget. The Ministry has a total staffing es tablishment of 158 posts and an aggregate current account budget of $291.6 million , and is r esponsible for collecting $822.3 million, or 85.9 per cent, of all government revenue. A snapshot of key information for the Ministry of Fi nance is shown on page B -98 of the Estimates Book . The Department Current Account allocations are as fol lows: • Head 10 —Ministry of Finance Headquarters, $5,050,000, an increase of $753,000, or 18 per cent ; • Head 11— Accountant General, $86,461,000, a decrease of $176,000, or 2 per cent ; • Customs —It is important to note that the Customs budget has been moved to the National Security Ministry , and the Ministry of Finance retains responsibility only for customs tariff and revenue collections ; • Head 28— Social Insurance, $5,250,000, a decrease of $759,000, or 13 per cent ; • Head 38 —Office of the Tax Commissioner, $3,451,000, no change; • Head 39—Registrar of Companies, $3,187,000, or an increase of $600,000, or 23 per cent ; • Head 58 —Interest on Long- Term Debt, $124,000, 000, no change ; and 1454 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly • the Sinking Fund contribution, which is est imated this year at $64,223,000, an increase of $2,138,000, or 3 per cent. The Minist er in charge of the Finance portfolio is myself, the Premier and Minister of Finance, supported by the Junior Minister of Finance, the Honourable Wayne L. Furbert, JP, MP. The executive and senior officials of the Ministry of Finance Headquarters are as follows: Financial Secretary, Mr. Anthony Manders; Assistant Financial Secretary, Economics and Finance, Stephen Gift; Assistant Financial Secr etary, Regulatory Unit, Ms. Pamela Burrows; Assistant Financial Secretary, Treaty Management and Admi nistration, Mr . Wayne Brown; and Director of Budget, Mrs. Tina Tucker. Madam Chairman, having delivered my first National Budget Statement on Friday, February 16 th, which was the official start of the Budget Debate in the House of Assembly, it gives me great pleasure to present the budget for selected departments in the Mini stry of Finance. Madam Chairman, the Finance Ministry’s key goals and objectives are to facilitate balanced ec onomic growth and development ; to provide strategic direction and an overall framework for financial ma nagement and control of government activities ; and to safeguard Bermuda’s economic interests in the face of challenges and threats in a changing global economy. The detailed core functions are to facilitate balanced economic growth and development by d evelopment and diversification of the financial services sector; to increase investor confidence to attract foreign direct investment; to provide support for small business; to provide strategic direction in an overall framework for financial management and control of government activities by optimising the yield from government’s revenue base, assuring the alignment of resource allocation with policy priorities, instituting and adhering to the principles of prudent budgeting and using output measures and performance measures to evaluate programme expenditure. [And] to safeguard Bermuda’s economic i nterests by meeting international standards of financial supervision and regulation, establishing and maintai ning economic intelligence networks, and est ablishing and maintaining strategic economic alliances. Madam Chairman, the other key department objectives are as follows: to prepare, implement, and closely monitor the National Budget; to arrange all government borrowing requirements sufficiently and at the most competitive rates; to report on the country’s economic performance to the public; to maintain effec-tive relations with credit -rating agencies; to oversee and manage public pension funds; to ensure and sup-port the fair coherence and predictable development of financial services regulation; and to be proactive in treaty negotiations with respect to tax information exchange agreements. The Ministry’s core functions are discharged through six broad programme areas: Policy, Planning and Management; Fis cal Planning and Control; Regulatory; Economic Finance and Intelligence; Treaty Management and Administration; and the Office of the National Anti -Money Laundering Committee. In di scharging its functions under the overall policy direction of the Minister of Finance, the Ministry of Finance Headquarters seeks to achieve the following outcomes: a Bermuda that maintains its position as a domicile of choice for international business; a Ber-muda where citizens have confidence in the Gover nment’s stewardship of t he public purse; a Bermuda where funding and resources are available for key programme initiatives; and a Bermuda where citizens regard government’s policy responses to economic and financial challenges as appropriate and in the n ational interest. Madam Chairman, in seeking to fulfil this mandate, the Ministry of Finance Headquarters has a staff establishment of 18 permanent full -time posts, and its total budget is $5,050,000. Ministerial restruc-turing resulted in the transfer of the Office of the N ational Anti-Money Laundering Committee to the Mini stry of Finance Headquarters. Following this transfer, the Ministry of Finance Headquarters budget alloc ation is $753,000, or 18 per cent higher when com-pared with the original estimate for 2017/18. This i ncrease is primarily due to the following: transfer of the National Anti -Money Laundering Committee to Mini stry Headquarters, $663,000; a 2.5 per cent salary u plift of $56,000; and maintenance of the new exchange of tax information portal for the Treaty Unit, valued at $290,000. These amounts were offset by a reduction in consultant fees due to the partial transfer of the cost of Government’s EU and UK consultants to the Cab inet Office. The budget for the Ministry of Finance Hea dquarters includes an operational element for each of the six programme areas within Ministry Headquarters, plus grant funding to the Pension Commission. I will now go over the cost centres, Madam Chairman. Cost centre 2000, Policy, Planning, and Management, a $216,000 decrease to the budget a llocation. Madam Chairman, the Policy, Planning, and Management Unit provides overall direction and management of Ministry Headquarters and supervisory oversight of the five departments of the Ministry of Finance, namely, the Accountant General’s Depar tment, HM Customs Revenue, Office of the Tax Co mmissioner, the Registrar of Companies, and the D epartment of Social Insurance. In addition, this unit undertakes strategic planning, manages the Ministry’s public relations, coordinates initiatives in economic diplomacy, and organises the review and development of economic and financial policy. The budget for this unit in 2018/19 is $1.225 million, $216,000 lower than last year. The budget decrease reflects the removal of Professional SerBermuda House of Assembly vices fees to the Relati onship Management in the United Kingdom in Europe, as a portion of these funds were moved to the Cabinet Office. Madam Chairman, Honourable Members are aware that in 2017 the Ministry was involved in the continuing reform of our tax system, following a review of Bermuda’s taxes by the Caribbean Technical Assi stance Centre (or CARTAC, for short). The Ministry continued with its mandate to boost international transparency and credibility through the Fiscal R esponsibility Panel [FRP]. Honourable Members will recall that the role of the Fiscal Responsibility Panel is to provide Bermuda’s Parliament, Minister of Finance, and Financial Policy Council with an annual published assessment of the Territory’s fiscal strategy, focusing on progress in meeting the Territ ory’s medium -term objectives for public spending, taxation, borrowing, and debt reduction. During the week of December 4 th, 2017, the Fiscal Responsibility Panel visited the Island and met with myself and a wide cross section of Bermudian society, and pub lished its third report in December. This was the first report since the change of gover nment and, importantly, provided an independent assessment of the view of the new Government’s pol icies. Madam Chairman, it is pleasing to note that the FRP wrote, and I quote, “ The government is right to be concerned about the degree of inequity in the di stribution of income and wealth on the island, and like governments elsewhere should pursue fiscal measures that address the issue. This should involve the taxation of dividend income where dividends are being taken as a form of salary payment, some more general taxation of significant incomes from capital, as well as the introduction of greater progressivity in the taxation of labour and possibly also in public pension fund and social insurance contributions. ” The FRP also noted the following: “The government is also right to be looking for ways to bring faster economic growth to the island. We welcome initiatives to improve training and to diversify the i sland’s econom y by attracting new industries as well as building on existing areas of business. Faster growth will ease the fiscal situation as well as improving the well-being of all Bermudians. As we have stressed in our previous reports, given demographic trends, it will be critical to success in these efforts to adopt an i mmigration policy and a welcoming attitude that encourages qualified and skilled people of working age (including returning Bermudians) to come to the i sland, whether as employees or to establish ne w bus inesses, and to stay. This will also help improve the sustainability of the island’s pension and health insurance arrangements.” Madam Chairman, the Government shares the F iscal Responsibility Panel’s view in these areas , which form the cornerstones of the 2019 National Budget, along with our commitment to begin reducing our debt next fiscal year. Madam Chairman, I will now briefly touch on tax reform. Honourable Members would be aware that the former Government introduced reform to the pa yroll tax, giving it a degree of progressivity. The intention was to meet the revenue targets for 2018/19, largely through a second stage of the payroll tax r eform and the introduction of a new general services tax [GST]. With the assistance of CARTAC, some work was done to prepare for the implementation of a broad- based GST on the supply of most services for the Island. Following this scoping mission, CARTAC presented their technical assistance report to the Mi nistry, which included various recommendations for consi deration. CARTAC also noted in their report that the proposed timeline for the implementation of the GST, April 1 st, 2018, was ambitious. Following the general election, and considering that there was very little progress made by the previous administration to advance the implement ation of the GST, it was decided not to introduce a full GST until the new Government considers the report of the Tax Reform Commission, rather than rushing to implement a GST. The Tax Reform Commission has been appointed and star ted their work, and the Government looks forward to the receipt of their report in July 2018 and the recommendations contained within. Meanwhile, Madam Chairman, the strategy, reforms, and actions that the Ministry of Finance are contemplating over the nex t year in order to meet the Government’s revenue target were clearly laid out in the 2019 Budget Statement, and there is no need for me to go over that information in this brief. The largest share of the $1.23 million budget for the policy unit is professi onal services and salaries. The salary prov ision for the policy unit is $480,000 and covers four posts, including the financial secretary, assistant f inancial secretary of policy, and two administrative of-ficers. The assistant financial secretary position is vacant following the retirement of the post -holder. The Ministry is currently considering whether that post should be filled. Further, Madam Chairman, as part of its str ategic policy work in support of the National Budget 2018/19, the Policy Unit in the Ministry of Finance Headquarters assists the Junior Minister of Finance in the re- introduction of the Pre- Budget Report in advance of fiscal year 2018/19. This report was a tr emendous success and fully met its objective to pr ovide greater transparency and public participation in the budget process. In total, just over 20 submissions were received from the public, and the Ministry had numerous meetings with key stakeholders, as well as one public town hall meeting. The report assisted the Ministry in framin g the 2018/19 Budget, which, by all accounts, has been positively received by members of the public. It is the Ministry’s firm belief that the release of the Pre- Budget Report and the consultation follo wing that report was one of the primary reasons for this 1456 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly positive feedback on the National Budget Statement, and we look forward to preparing and releasing the Pre-Budget Report for 2019/20. Madam Chairman, changes are ongoing in order to improve the way that we approach the ha ndling of public money. The Poli cy Unit will continue to oversee this transformation of the management of public financial management and will be involved in the upcoming fiscal year to continue with the development of an open budget structure to provide more transparency to the budgeting process; provide sup-port to the work of the Tax Reform Commission; work with key business stakeholders to create incentives for companies to increase jobs in Bermuda by provi ding payroll tax relief for new positions created, which is the Job Growth Strat egy Programme; and assist small and medium -sized business with a payment of payroll tax by funding the development of a module for QuickBooks, which would be offered to local taxpa yers to reduce the complexity of tax filing, while i ncreasing compliance. Madam Chairman, I will conclude this snapshot of some of the work that is carried out by the Po licy Unit within the Ministry of Finance by noting that this unit is responsible for coordinating all of the legi slative items that support the National Budget. This process includes providing drafting instructions to the Attorney General’s Chambers for Bills, Orders, and Regulations; coordinating with other ministries, where necessary; and preparing legislative briefs to assist Ministers and Junior Ministers in steering the legisl ative items through the approval process in the Legisl ature. There are estimated a total of 15 items of legisl ation associated with this year’s National Budget. Madam Chairman, I will now move on to pr ogramme 20010, Fiscal Planning and Cont rol, which has a $2,000 decrease. Madam Chairman, the Fiscal Planning and Control Unit, or colloquially known as the Budget Team, is primarily responsible for the management, collection, and collation of Consolidated Fund budget data, the monitoring and control of overall government expenditures on both capital accounts and current accounts, and the achievement of gov-ernment revenues. This unit is also tasked with the responsibility of reviewing and developing the Go vernment’s annual capital expenditure pla n. The budget for this unit in 2018/19 is $495,000, which is $2,000 less than last year. The Budget Team provides advice and gui dance to department heads and controllers on both the formulation of Ministry budgets and on budget monitoring and control. The team provides two formal trai ning sessions each year, designed for Ministry depar tmental staff who have responsibility for budget preparation and/or budget monitoring control. As part of the budget monitoring and control exercises, all ministries and depar tments are required to review expenditure performance and to confirm on a monthly basis their current and capital expenditure performance with the Budget Office. Madam Chairman, the Government has a lready demonstrated its ability to prudently manage expend itures, which can be seen in the Revised Current Expenditure Forecast. The projected 2018/19 operating expenses of the Government are $921.5 million, or $2 million lower than the $923.5 million ori ginally budgeted in 2017/18 by the former Government. Yes, Madam Chairman, despite the millions of unbudgeted expenditures that we inherited, we have paid close attention to spending and expect to exceed the original estimate from last year. That, Madam Chairman, is a sign that this Government will be jud icious wi th the spending of public funds. Madam Chairman, during the finalisation of budgeting packages for the 2018/19 budget cycles, ministries have submitted that their returns had r equested a total current and capital account appropri ation of $1,042,000,000, so me $59 million above the Finance Ministry’s original limit of $983 million. The Budget Office worked closely with these ministries, and after carefully considering the current level of spending required to operate the Government in its current form, and es pecially taking into account the priorities of this Government in health, education and training, economic development, and the various obl igations of the Government, we managed to reduce the total appropriation to $991 million. Controlling government expenditure has been and still remains a focus of the Government. Moving forward, the Government will take a revised approach in order to implement further savings, and has already established an efficiency team. The efficiency team will be supported by the pr ivate sector, at minimal expense, and will scrutinise spending across all indivi dual departments and will formulate action plans to i ncrease efficiencies, thus reducing future costs. I will speak a little bit more about the work of the Efficiency Team later, Madam Chairman. A salary provision of $423,000 accounts for 85 per cent of the Budget Team’s allocation for 2018/19. This provision covers the post of the Director of Budget, Principal Budget Officer, Budget Officer, and Budget Assistant. For the next year fiscal year 2018/19, the department has objectives to provide support for the open budgeting process; enhance budget monitoring and reporting to Cabinet; provide support to the Eff iciency Team, which will scrutinise spending across all individual Gove rnment departments; and bring all supplementary appropriations current. I will now move on to 20020, Regulatory Unit, which had a decrease of $3,000. The budget for this unit in 2018/19 is $316,000, and there is a minor change to the budget allocation for this period. Madam Chairman, the Regulatory Unit is the lead policy division within the Ministry of Finance Headquarters in relation to the financial services sector. The Regulat ory Unit is accountable to the Financial Secretary for
Bermuda House of Assembly the effective discharge of the unit’s functions and, through the Premier and Minister of Finance, to Cabinet and Parliament. The head of the unit, the Assi stant Financial Secretary for Regulation, carries out the Minister’s financial services policies through the Mini stry of Fin ance, the Bermuda Monetary Authority, the Attorney General’s Chambers, the National Anti - Money Laundering Committee, the Bermuda Public Account ability Board, and specialist global partners. The Regulatory Unit operates in response to a broad range of opportunities and risks, which allows the Ministry to contribute actively to a continuous flow of information on potential threats and opportunities to Bermuda and its reputation. The Regulatory Unit is involved in virtually every policy and management ar-ea—fr om regulatory reform and financial stability to anti-money laundering and trade and development issues at home and abroad. The scope of the Regulatory Unit’s activities is as follows: to support the Premier and Minister of F inance, and the Financial Secret ary, in coordinating the financial services regulatory policy initiatives of the Government; to oversee the Finance Ministry’s component of the financial services legislative programme, together with the Bermuda Monetary Authority and the Ministry of Legal Affairs; to provide policy advice to the Financial Secretary and the Minister of Finance on anti-money laundering policy initiatives, together with the National Anti -Money Laundering Committee, pursuant to section 49 of the Proceeds of Crime Act 1997; to provide policy advice to the Minister of F inance and the Financial Secretary on matters related to the regulatory component of financial services and audit directives issued by the European Union, t ogether with the Cabinet Office, London Office, and EU specialists; to provide policy advice to the Insurance Advisory Committee on matters related to the insurance sector; and to provide advice to the External A ffairs Committee on any matter related to financial ser-vices and tax transparency.
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Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Chairman, the Regulat ory Unit is uniquely positioned at the intersection of the financial services industry, regulatory and law e nforcement agencies, as well as domestic and global partners. The unit is able to network the varied perspectives to bring a comprehensive insight in the development and protection of our economic security. This unique position allows the unit to develop and support multiple partnerships that have a broad d omestic and international i mpact. Some of the Regulatory Unit’s material mil estones in 2017/18 included the following: The Regul atory Unit was primarily focused on matters related to beneficial ownership and transparency, tax transparency, together with matters related to Bermuda’s CFATF [Caribbean Financial Action Task Force] AML/ATF [anti -money laundering/anti -terrorism f inanc ing] assessments. Led by the Treaty Unit, the Assistant Financial Secretary and the NAMLC [N ational Anti -Money Laundering Committee] Chairman, travelled to G eneva to attend the OECD [Organisation for Economic Co- operation and Development] Global Forum, which resulted in Bermuda securing its “largely compliant ” rating, as evidenced by the Bermuda 2017 peer review report on the exchange of infor-mation on request . The unit’s primary role, going forward in the next year, will be to continue work with NAMLC agen-cies to assist with the preparation for Bermuda’s 2018 CFATC assessment, which is scheduled for the third quarter of 2018. In order to achieve its priorities and pursuant to the Finance Ministry’s legislative agenda, the Ber-muda Monetary Authority Business Plan, the Ministry of Finance EU engagement strategy, and the national anti-money laundering strategy, the unit will undertake the following key strategic ownership goals in 2018/19, as follows: In matters related to the European Union, the unit will lead efforts to coordinate the Finance Mini stry’s engagement and technical component of the E uropean Union audit -directed work with the Assistant Financial Secr etary, Treaties, to coordinate the F inance Ministry’s response to the EU Code of Conduct Group’s work on developing a common EU list of noncooperative tax jurisdictions. It will also lead efforts to coordinate with the Ministry of Finance engagement compo nent of the Ministry of Finance EU engagement strategy, together with the Cabinet Office, the Berm uda Monetary Authority, and EU Council. This will i nclude the preparation for an annual visit by the Mini ster of Finance to meet with key EU stakeholders. Regarding matters related to the Financial A ction Task Force standards, the unit will contribute to and support the implementation of the Bermuda’ anti - money laundering strategy, together with the National Anti-Money Laundering Committee. This work i ncludes t he provision of strategic and policy advice, as well as the completion of various technical effectiv eness and risk assessments. This work also includes preparation of Bermuda’s AML/ATF assessment, which, as I mentioned, is taking place this year, which I think most people in the country, hopefully, are aware of by now, Madam Chairman. The unit will also lead efforts to coordinate the Finance Ministry’s component to the enhancements to the corporate service providers regime, along with the Bermuda Monetary A uthority and the National Anti - Money Laundering Committee. This will include amendments to the exchange control legislation and the partnership legislative framework. It will also work with NAMLC agencies and the Ministry of Economic Development on matters related to transparency of and beneficial ownership of legal persons and legal arrangements. 1458 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Regarding matters related to the United Kingdom, the unit will work with the Ministry of Finance team, the Ministry of Economic Development, the Bermuda Monetary Authority, NAMLC, and the Lo ndon Office on matters related to the implementation of the exchange of notes between the Government of the United Kingdom and the Government of Bermuda in respect of the sharing of beneficial ownership on an on-request basis, w hich was dated on the 9th of April 2016. The unit will also work with the same organis ations to implement the exchange of notes which was made between the Bermuda Government and the Chancellor of the Exchequer dated the 9 th of May 2016 on the exchange of beneficial ownership infor-mation on an automatic basis. They will also work with the External Affairs Committee on matters related to all external risks. This work includes the development of a risk profile and an action plan, together with an external enga gement strategy for the Government of Bermuda. The list of international commitments may seem daunting, Madam Chairman, but they are critical if Bermuda is to maintain its strong reputation. The salary provision of $234,000 accounts for 74 per cent of the Regulatory Unit’s allocation for 2017/18, which covers two posts, including the Assi stant Financial Secretary for the Regulatory Unit and one administrative officer. I will now move on to programme 20030, Economic and Financial Intelligence, which has a decrease of $2,000. Madam Chairman, the Economic and Financial Intelligence Unit provides research and analysis of economic and financial conditions to help facilitate sound decisions on public policy and fiscal management. Responsibilities of the staff in t he unit include economic forecasts, economic modelling, pr ojections of GDP, and the development of key economic indicators. Analysis and commentary on economic and financial statistics are provided, and an annual and mid- year review and outlook are produced. The budget for this unit in 2018/19 is $469,000, which is $2,000 less than the budget allocation for 2017/18. Madam Chairman, the unit also manages the relationship with credit rating agencies and is responsible for government debt management policy. The unit constantly reviews our debt management policy in order to take advantage of favourable market conditions. When financing the deficit, the Ministry’s most important objective is to provide the Government with stable financing at minimal cost, under t he prevailing market conditions. The Economic and Financial Intelligence Unit therefore maintains a relationship with both domestic and international banks in order to be kept abreast of capital market developments that provide an opportunity to refinance current government debt at less - expensive rates to provide the best opportunity in which to finance the current fiscal year’s deficit. As mentioned in the 2018/19 Budget Statement, Gov-ernment will need to incur new borrowing of approx imately $90 million i n order to finance the fiscal deficit. The unit will work with the Public Debt Advisory Group and financial institutions to determine the best strat egy that provides cost -efficiency and the most prudent approach to financing the deficit. Madam Chairman, t he unit also provides advice to various government boards and is closely i nvolved in the administration of numerous customs du-ty relief regimes, including duty relief provided to hotels, restaurants, and retailers. In addition, this unit oversees the publi c pension funds, along with the Bermuda Public Funds Investment Committee. Madam Chairman, the investments in the public sector pension plans continue to perform well. I can report that, as of December 31 st, 2017, the Contribut ory Pension Fund’s [CPF] assets totalled $1.898 billion, versus $1.702 billion in 2016. Meanwhile, the Public Service Superannuation Fund’s [PSSF] assets totalled $622.1 million in 2017 versus $554 million in 2016. For 2017, the contributory and superannuation plans both posted returns of 14.4 per cent, exceeding their policy indices by 0.4 per cent. Three- through ten- year returns for these funds all outperformed the actuarial required rate of return. In the short term, the Contributory Pension Fund and Public Service Superannuation F und are in decent financial shape. As at December 31 st, 2017, the CPF’s total assets represented approximately 11 times the annual value of benefits to be paid in the fiscal year, while the PSSF’s assets represented a pproximately 7.5 times the annual value of benefits. Madam Chairman, I highlighted in my Budget Statement and would now like to further emphasise here now that, and I quote, “The importance of ec onomic diversification cannot be understated. A divers ified economy opens a field of economic opport unity to a wider cross -section of Bermudians.” With this in mind, the Economic and Intelligence Unit will continue to work with various stakeholders on legislation that will facilitate the expansion and diversification of the local economy. One of the unit ’s objectives will be to determine if an amendment to the Banks and Deposit Companies Act 1999, allowing for different licences in classes of banks, will help facilitate financial instit utions that can, not only create additional jobs, but also provide banking services to new industries. Madam Chairman, this unit will also continue to assist with the development of regulations and le gislation in the financial technology (or FinTech) indus-try. The unit will continue to work with the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund Manager, which is Fortress, to ensure that the infrastructure priorities of this Government are given significance over any other potential infrastructure projects. Madam Chairman, other notable tasks to be achieved by the Economic and Financial Intelli gence Unit in the upcoming fiscal year include:
Bermuda House of Assembly • reviewing the Government’s debt management policy and making any changes deemed appropriate; • working with the Attorney General’s Cha mbers and the Bermuda Pension Commission to amend the National Pension Schem e (Occupational Pensions) Act 1998 in order to i ntroduce new provisions, as well as to enhance existing provisions; • continuing to work with CARTAC to develop econometric models for the forecasting of key economic indicators and Gov ernment medium-term fisca l data; • continuing to work with the Government E mployee Health Insurance Com mittee to as sist in redesigning the health plan; • conducting a review of our pension arrange-ments to determine whether public and private pensions are set up at appropriate levels , and also that the fees which are charged to man-agers are set at the appropriate levels, which have been found to be rather high; • continuing the review of all Government pension plans to determine the sustainability of the fund; • to work with the Ministry of Health to establish the terms and conditions of the proposed pr ogramme of limited government guarantees to support the development of senior residential facilities. The salary provision of $298,000 covers two posts, including the Assistant Financial Sec retary, Economics and Finance; and the Economic Advisor. The other major item of cost in this unit is a provision for consulting services for special studies, and the fees for credit rating agencies, which is $109,500. I will now move on to programme 20040, Treaty Management and Administration, which has an increase of $288,000. Madam Chairman, the budget for the unit in 2018/19 is set at $882,000, an increase of $288,000 from last year’s budget allocation of $594,000. This increase is related entirely to the ongoing cost of the new exchange of information portal, which went live in June of 2017. Madam Chairman, the Treaty Unit is responsible for the following areas: negotiating tax information exchange agreements, or TIEAs, and ot her agreements relating t o tax information exchange, and associated agreements with member countries of the EU, G20, Organisation for Economic Co- operation and Development (OECD), and other countries; being responsible for relationship management regarding tax matters with the USA , European Commission, and members of the European Union. Additionally, the unit manages and administers requests for exchange of information on the by -request basis and the automatic exchange of information (EOI). Madam Chairman, the work of the unit conti nues to diversify from the original core activity that led to its creation, the processing of international tax c ooperation exchange of information requests on the by - request basis, to the processing of international tax cooperation requests on the autom atic basis, through the Ministry’s new tax reporting portal. Madam Chairman, since its formation in 2007, global tax cooperation in tax matters has intensified significantly. The recent EU non- cooperative jurisdi ction threat of December 2017, when Bermuda su ccessfully avoided being included on the list of noncooperative jurisdictions by the EU, is clear evidence of this ongoing intensification. Madam Chairman, the proactivity of the Treaty Unit has included continued negotiation of tax information exchange agreements, both multilateral and bilateral, and other agreements relating to tax information exchange, and associated agreements with member countries of the EU, G20, and OECD countries. This outreach included fostering good rel ations with the OECD that enabled myself, as Premier and Minister of Finance, to meet in October 2017 with the OECD Secretary General, Mr. Á ngel Gurr ía, to discuss the then- looming EU listing of any country to be deemed [non] -cooperative in tax matters. At the same time, Bermuda, t hrough the Treaty Unit, had accomplished a number of firsts in signing key tax agreements and joining important OECD tax commi ttees—accomplishments made possible through rel ationship -building with tax officials in these key countries and proactively signing appropriate tax agreements, whereby these accomplishments have disti nguished us apart from other jurisdictions and have created what the Ministry refers to, and will continue to refer to, as the “ Bermuda standard .” Madam Chairman, the unit recently negot iated new tax agreements with the United Kingdom and the United States, arguably Bermuda’s two most i mportant partners (for obvious reasons). The IRS in the USA, on its website for country -by-country reporting, now lists Bermuda as the first and only UK Ov erseas Territory, to date, to sign a bilateral country -by-country reporting agreement with the United States. This will contribute to managing the United States risks that are ever present, especially in view of the recent tax reform enacted by the United States Government. The unit also negotiated for Bermuda to join the OECD’s BEPS [base erosion and profit shifting] Inclusive Framework Group, enabling Bermuda to be the first Overseas Territory to join that group. This proactivity by the Treaty Unit, in si gning various tax information exchange agreements and joining the BEPS Inclusive Framework Group, were key factors in Bermuda managing to avoid the non- cooperative jurisdiction list. Madam Chairman, the third and original preexisting area of the Treaty Un it’s work is that pr ocessing of exchange of information has grown to i nclude automatic exchange of information and to add to the Unit’s work of processing TIEA [tax exchange i nformation agreement] requests. This work is carried 1460 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly out by the senior and junior exchange of information officers. Madam Chairman, in 2016, Bermuda underwent in- depth monitoring and peer review of our i mplementation of the International Standards of Transparency Exchange of Information for Tax Purposes by the OECD Global Forum. The last Global Forum r eview on Bermuda was conducted in November 2013, and we achieved the rating of “ largely compliant, ” the same as the UK, USA, and many other G8 nations. This OECD assessment was extremely important for Bermuda, and we dedicated the resources required to increase Bermuda’s chances to maintain our rating of “largely compliant. ” Madam Chairman, in 2017, as mentioned earlier, the OECD re- assessed Bermuda, and we maintained our “ largely compliant ” rating. Had we not maintained that rating, it cou ld have negatively impacted the EU Code of Conduct [Group’s] view on Bermuda when publishing their non- cooperative juri sdictions list. Madam Chairman, fiscal year 2018/19 will be an important and busy time for the Treaty Unit, as the country starts further negotiations with the EU Code of Conduct Group. The salary provision for the Treaty Unit in 2018/19 is $334,000. The other major recurring item of cost in this unit is for travel and attendance at OECD Global Forums, meetings with the European Commission officials in Brussels, OECD officials relationship -building with tax officials in key countries, and being proactive in identifying when there is a need to negotiate and sign new treaties to protect Bermuda’s interests. I will now move on to programme 20100, the Office of the National Anti -Money Laundering Commi ttee, which has seen a decrease of $2,000. Madam Chairman, the purpose of the Office of the National Anti-Money Laundering Committee, or as I will refer to it as the Office of NAMLC, is to work with the National Anti-Money Laundering Committee and its agencies to ensure that Bermuda has strong and effective regimes that combat money -laundering, terrorism financing and the financing of proliferation, and collaborates with international counterparts to help address these issues on a global scale. The NAMLC Office’s budget for the year 2018/19 is $663,000, representing a minimal change from the 2017 allocation. In addition, funds allocated to the office from the Confiscated Assets Fund are being carried o ver from 2017/18 into the next fiscal year in order to continue programme initiatives for which those funds were earmarked. During the last financial year, or the current financial year which we are in, which will end at the end of this month, a key focus of the Office of NAMLC has been to continue working with the NAMLC agencies and other relevant parties so that Bermuda’s anti -money laundering framework will be deemed to achieve a high level of compliance with the international standards in the upcoming e valuations of this regime. Bermuda’s evaluation against the international standards will be carried out by a team of assessors under the leadership of the Caribbean Financial A ction Task Force and will commence this month. As part of these efforts, the off ice continues to work closely with the NAMLC Legislative Working Group and parliamentary counsel to address further legisl ative gaps in the framework. Madam Chairman, another significant initiative in 2017 involved the office coordinating and working collaboratively with NAMLC agencies and stakehol ders in industry to conduct a national risk assessment on money -laundering as an update to the previous assessment that was done in 2013. The 2017 exercise took place over seven months, the findings have been synt hesized and a report will be available for publication shortly. As part of Bermuda’s preparations for the upcoming review of its AML/ATF regime, the office continued to provide technical support to NAMLC agencies through facilitating, training, and other t echnical guidance to such agencies by intern ational experts in AML/ATF matters. These experts are also assisting the NAMLC teams in preparing the wri tten submissions to be presented to the assessment teams. Key initiatives that the Office of NAMLC will be working on in the new financial year are to finalise preparations and facilitate the mutual evaluation pr ocess, [as follows]: (1) Coordinating the input from all NAMLC agencies for the submissions to the CFATF asses sment team to demonstrate the effectiveness of Be rmuda’s AML/ATF regime. This will involve finalising the writing and collating of the evidence to support Bermuda’s written submissions on effectiveness, which is due to be presented to the assessment team on May 23, 2018. The submissions on Bermuda’s compliance with technical criteria will be finalised by the office and submitted before the end of fiscal year 2017/18, in accordance with the timeline stipulated in CFATF’s assessment procedures. (2) Finalising any remaining legislative amendments required to fully align the legislative framework with the requirements of FATF’s standards; (3) Coordinating the training of NAMLC agencies and other relevant government personnel and private sector stakeholders in preparation for the onsite visit of the ass essment team. (4) Coordinating Bermuda’s responses to any queries from the assessment team prior to or after the onsite visit. (5) Coordinating the review by NAMLC agencies of all draft reports presented by the assessment team, and coordinating and prepari ng Bermuda’s position on matters identified within draft reports for submission to the CFATF secretary. In order to progress on all of these initiatives, not only will the office work closely with the relevant government ministries and agencies, but will a lso co nBermuda House of Assembly tinue to liaise with the private sector, as necessary and appropriate. The salary provision for the Office of the N ational Anti -Money Laundering Committee in 2018/19 is $454,000. The other major recurring item of cost in this unit is for travel and attendance at CFATF plenary training in preparation for the upcoming CFATF assessment. Madam Chairman, I will now move on to the line item analysis of the items in Head 10. Operational Budget. Madam Chairman, the estimated cost of op-erating the Ministry of Finance in 2018/19, as stated before, is $5.05 million; 44 per cent is accounted for by salaries, $2.23 million. The salary allocation is apportioned between the functional units in the Ministry Headquarters that I mentioned before. The staffing complements are 18, which represents 17 Bermudians and 1 non- Bermudian. Training is $40,000, an increase of $25,000. This funding is used for training and continuous pr ofessional development of the Ministry Headquarters staff. The increase is mainly due to the transfer of the Office of NAMLC to the Ministry Headquarters. This training is required for the preparation of the upcoming CFATF assessment. In 2018/19, there will also be training needs for the new staff of the Treaty Unit in relation to the exchange of information portal. Travel, $136,000, no change. This allocation makes provision for travel costs in connection with the relationship maintenance of the United States, the United Kingdom, and Europe. Travel involved for overseas treaty negotiations, OECD meeti ngs, EU Code of Conduct meetings, and NAMLC travel to CFATF plenary events are also covered in this alloc ation. Communications, $36,000, an increase of $3,000. This vote is to provide for the cost of tel ephone accounts, which are now devolved into departments previously having been paid for centrally by the Ministry of Works and Engineering. This increase is due to the Office of NAMLC moving to Ministry Headquarters. Advertising and Promotion, $8,000, no change. Professional Services, $980,000, a decrease of $90,000. The professional services vote is allocated across the following programmes in the Ministry of Finance Headquarters: Policy Planning and Management, $425,000; Regulatory Unit, $40,000; Economic and Financial Intelligence, $119,500; Treaty Unit, $165,000; and Fiscal Planning and Control, $25,000. A core sum of $230,000 is earmarked for maintaining effective relationships with Europe. With the ever - increasing external threats to economic survival, it is crucial that we aggressively engage with the relevant entities. These consultants help the government to actively engage in the appropriate places, in the appropriate forums, and in the appropriate manner to get the Bermuda story out there. This allocation also i n-cludes funding for the work of the Ef ficiency Commi ttee, which has already been established and which will start and will continue its work into the next fiscal year. Also, the Ministry has to provide the Bermuda Public Accountability Board with funding to cover co nsulting expenditures associ ated with the cost of the Canadian Public Accountability Board to undertake [examinations] of Bermuda- based public accountants. Also, there has been an increase in legal fees for law-yers who represent the Treaty Unit. Rentals, $12,000, no change. Materials and Supplies, $105,000, an i ncrease of $4,000. This provision funds general office supplies, as well as the printing costs, the free budget documents, namely, the Budget Statement, Economic Review, and the Approved Estimates of Revenues and Expenditure, all of which are competitively te ndered each year. This change of $4,000 is due to a reclassification of expenses. Other Expenses, $153,000, a decrease of $4,000. The amount of $153,000 includes annual membership fees to the Caribbean Regional Tec hnical Ass istance Centre, or CARTAC. This membership, of course, allows the Government to participate in various workshops and conferences at no additional cost. The annual contribution to the OECD Global F orum for Transparency and Exchange of Information for Tax Pu rposes is also included in this allocation. The amount also represents miscellaneous items, including subscriptions for journals, periodicals and other online news, and information- monitoring sites and board fees. The change is due to a reclassification of expenses. Madam Chairman, I will now move on to Grants and Contributions. Grants and Contributions for the Ministry of Finance Headquarters are $1 mi llion, an increase of $25,000. The budget for Grants and Contributions is made up entirely of a $1 million grant to the National Pensions Commission. This $25,000 increase is to cover additional resources r equired for the administration of the Pension Trust Funds Act 1966, and pension trusts established and administered under this Act, and the policy work r equired for the Government’s proposal to consider the provisions of national pensions to make the National Pension Scheme mandatory for all employees. R egarding revenue for this department, Madam Chai rman, the department generates revenue of $180,000, which r epresents a guarantee fee for the $165 million Morgan’s Point guarantee. Madam Chairman, I will now move on to Capital Acquisitions, which can be found in the Estimates Book on page C -10. Cost centre 76152, National Trust Furnishing Fund, $25,000, unchange d. This provision is to fund new furnishings for public rooms at Government House. Cost centre 76153, National Trust Maint enance Fund, $5,000, unchanged. This provision funds 1462 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly the refurbishment of furnishings for the public rooms at Government House. Cost c entre 76867, OECD Common Repor ting System, $95,000, a decrease of $1.2 million. This represents the ongoing capital cost associated with the specialised web portal for the USA FATCA and OECD country -by-country reporting, and the common reporting standard portal. Madam Chairman, I will now move on to di scuss the activities of the Pension Commission, whose grant is listed on page C -16. Madam Chairman, the Pension Commission is a corporate body established under the National Pension Scheme (Occupational Pensions) Act 1998 and has the following functions: to administer the Act and the Regulations; to consider and determine appl ications for the registration of pension plans; to con-sider and determine financial hardship withdrawal applications; to promote and ensure compliance by pe nsion plans with the provisions of the Act and Regul ations; to monitor the administration and funding of pension plans, and to enforce provisions of the Act and Regulations in respect to such administration of funding; to verify the paym ent of benefits under pa yment plans; to promote public education on pension plans and their benefits; to advise the Minister on any matter relating to pensions, including the development of laws relating to pension plans; to provide such i nformation relati ng to its functions as the Minister may require; to investigate complaints relating to a pension plan and a pension fund; and to perform any other functions provided for or in, under this Act. The commission also has the responsibility for the administrati on of the Pension Trust Funds Act 1966 and pension trusts established and administered under this Act. The proposed grant for the commission in 2018/19 is $1 million, which represents the $25,000 increase. For the upcoming year, the commission has a number of goals: (1) the introduction of Amendments to the National Pension Scheme (Occupational Pensions) Act 1998; to provide the commission with enhanced regulatory powers; the introduction of reg ulatory fees and improvements to pension access; (2) review of the existing retirement age under the National Pension Scheme legislation; (3) amendments to the existing financial hardship regulations to include funeral expenses, as well as to remove certain r estrictions relating to educational, housing expenses, and p ersons receiving a pension and their ability to apply; (4) continuing compliance and enforcement through the civil courts against delinquent employers, and directors and officers of such companies; and (5) increase staffing as part of its plans to introduc e risk-based supervision. Honourable Members will recall that the N ational Pension Scheme (Financial Hardship) Regul ations 2010 were introduced to help Bermudians with a real financial need to get access to a portion of their private sector pension funds, based on prescribed criteria for hardship. The Regulations were further amended in 2011 to permit rental arrears as an additional category for financial hardship. In 2012, the Commission also became responsible for the admi nistration of financial hardship applications for civil servants, under the Public Service Superannuation Act 1981. For information, Madam Chairman, the following four circumstances of financial hardship are permitted refunds under the respective Acts: eligible uncovered medical expenses; threats of loss of princ ipal residence due to debt default; threat of eviction from home due to arrears of rent; eligible fees payable for tertiary education. Madam Chairman, for those listening to my riveting and long presentation today, I will now provi de a summary of the financial hardship statistics provided by the Commission from its inception of this initiative up until the 31 st of December 2017. The total applic ations received since the start date have been 2,718. The approved applications have been 2,217. The declined applications have been 374. And applications which are currently pending and/or withdrawn are 70. The total of amount of money which has been approved to be withdrawn to assist is $24.6 million . The applications which have been approve d, by type, are broken down as follows: eligible education expenses, 837; imminent threat of loss of principal residence, 365; imminent eviction from home for rental arrears, 925; and eligible medical expenses, 149. Madam Chairman, in relationship to other areas of activities and responsibilities of the Commi ssion, I would like to provide the following pension plan statistics as of the 31 st of December 2017: The N ational Pension Scheme itself contains an estimated 21,457 plan members. There are a total of 3,073 employer plans, which consist of 3,056 defined contributions and 17 defined benefit plans. The total assets under the National Pension Scheme is approximately $3.2 billion, consisting, approximately, of $2.6 billion in employer plans and $600 million in individual a pproved plans. There are 583 self -employed plans. As at the 31 st of December [2017], the Commission initiated 11 civil actions against delinquent employers, their directors and officers in 2017, compared to only 6 in 2016; conducted 106 compliance meetings with employers and plan members in 2017, compared to just 78 in 2016; and held 13 compliance meetings with plan administrators in 2017, which was a decrease from the 17 which were held in 2016. Madam Chairman, that completes the brief for Head 10 of the Ministry of Finance Headquarters. B efore I move to the next head, I would like to thank the management and staff of the Ministry of Finance Headquarters for their dedication and continued hard work in meeting the objectives of the Ministry of Finance.
Bermuda House of Assembly Now, Madam Chairman, I will move on to the next head, which is Head 12, that of Customs Rev enue.
HEAD 12 —CUSTOMS REVENUE
Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Chairman, Head 12, Customs Revenue, can be found on page B -109. T otal customs revenue for 2017/18 is projected at $235,160,000, and the projection for 2018/19 is $239,240,000. The analysis of the major revenues are as follows: Customs duty, $235 million, an increase of $4 million, or 2 per cent compared with the revised, and an increase of $11 million, or 5 per cent, when compared to the 2017/18 original. The revised for ecast of duty collections for 2017/18 have increased by $7.2 million when compared to the original estimate for 2017/18. The expected duty collection for 2018/19 will increase by $4 mil lion, or 2 per cent, from the r evised forecast. The increase reflects adjustments in the duty rate for increases on certain key items. It is further anticipated that we will see a continuation of an economic improvement during 2018, which will translate to increased imports of goods, and therefore an increase in the duty collected. Madam Chairman, this year’s amendments include the following: a reduction to 0.0 per cent duty on eggs and certain fresh fruits and vegetables, which will result in a duty decrease of approximately $215,000; increased duty on certain wine and tobacco products, which could yield an additional $2 million; reduced duty on certain linen products and on clocks, which is estimated to reduce collection by $800,000; and pending the final isation of consultation the pr oposed sugar tax, when implemented, will yield an additional $3 million. Madam Chairman, similar to other years, it is projected that approximately 50 per cent of customs duty will be raised from the importation of alcohol, fuel, tobacco, and vehicles. It is interesting to note that 50 per cent —50 per cent comes from the importation of alcohol, fuel, tobacco, and vehicles. Other Revenue Sources. Forecast of revenue sources other than customs duty [shows that these sources] are expected to contribute a total of $5.1 mi llion during 2018/19, which, based on our forecast, would equate to 2.1 per cent of the revenue collected by Customs. There is little indication that receipts in these areas will change significantly from the reven ue levels achieved during the 2017/18 fiscal year, to date. The forecast of revenue sources other than customs duty is as follows: customs duty at the General Post Office, $842,000; yacht arrivals, $104,000; ser-vices to ships in Customs, $340,000; wharfage, $840,000; container fees, $1,019,000; customs service charges, $800,000, an increase of $89,000, or 13 per cent; courier package fees, $719,000; light dues, $200,000; licence, general, $59,000; penalty, $151,000; and sundry receipts, $68,000. Madam Chai rman, before I conclude on Head 12, Customs Revenue, of course the kind folks, the Collector of Customs and her staff, do stellar work in continuing to collect this revenue. And I look forward to working with them in the upcoming year to meet our budget targets as have been stated.
HEAD 38 —OFFICE OF THE TAX COMMISSIONER
Hon. E. David Burt: I will now move on to Head 38, which is the Office of the Tax Commissioner. Madam Chairman, Head 38 can be found on pages B -113 to B -116. The primary responsibility of the Office of the Tax Commissioner [OTC] is to effectively administer the timely and accurate collection of all taxes and stamp duties in accordance with appl icable legislation. I will just take the time to list all of the taxes which are collected by the Office of the Tax Commissioner, if I may, Madam Chairman: payroll tax, corporate services tax, betting duty for turf, betting duty for pools, stamp duties, land tax, foreign currency purchasing tax, hotel occupancy tax, cruise ship d eparture tax, passenger cabin tax, time- sharing services tax, time -share occupancy tax, financial services tax. Madam Chairman, the following are some key statements regarding the Office of the Tax Commi ssioner. As is seen at the beginning of the Budget Book, pages A -2 and A -3, the Office of the Tax Co mmissioner is responsible for collecting the largest portion of the government’s revenue and is estimated to collect $624 million, or 57 per cent of government’s total revenue in 2018/19— $624 million. The Office of the Tax Commissioner generated $164 of revenue for every current account dollar spent in 2016/17. It is estimated to generate approximately $180 of revenue for every current account dollar spent in 2018/19. As can be seen on page A -4, payroll tax is the single largest reve nue-earner for government, generating $401 million in fiscal year 2016/17. It is estimated to generate $454 million in this upcoming year. Financial Services tax, introduced in the 2017/18 fiscal year, yielded an additional $8.4 million in tax revenues, and it is estimated in 2018/19 that $8.9 million would be collected in the Financial Ser-vices tax. The overall expected revenue increase in 2018/19 is $29 million, or a 5 per cent increase in total projected revenues from taxes and stamp duties, so the total amount of $624 million. Madam Chairman, the OTC’s vision is to be a significant contributor to Bermuda’s prosperity and stability by being a progressive, modern tax admi nistration committed to customer service, continuous improvement, and collaboration. T he OTC’s mission is to provide superior quality and efficient service, with responsible enforcement of tax legislation, thus contributing to the economic and social stability of Ber-muda. 1464 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly The four core objectives of the OTC are as follows: to administer the collection of taxes in accordance with tax legislation and to provide professional advice to the Ministry of Finance; to conduct responsible and effective enforcement activities, cr eating an environment which promotes compliance and ensures that all taxes are collected in accordance with respective Acts; to educate and advise taxpayers on matters relating to their statutory obligations under the Acts and maintain community confidence; and to ensure that revenue is available to fund Government programmes through the collection of taxes. Madam Chairman, the Office of the Tax Commissioner is strategically divided into four cost centres, which can be found on page B -113. Those are as follows: 1. The Administration team provides the overall direction and managem ent of the office, which i ncludes strategic planning, staff development, training, and general office support. 2. The Stamp Duties team is responsible for the administration and collection of stamp duties under the Stamp Duties Act 1976. This includes the adjudication and processing of a variety of legal instr uments including, but not limited to, conveyances, transfers, leases and mortgages, as well as admini stering the Primary Family Homestead Exemption Pr ogramme. 3. The Audit and Compliance team is responsible for ensuring that taxpayers are compliant with the taxes Acts throughout the life of the taxpayer, starting with their initial registration. The team conducts audits and inspections of taxpayer books and records, and is responsible for knowledge manag ement and taxpayer education. 4. The Operations team oversees the majority of activities of collecting and reporting on all taxes un-der the remit of the Office of the Tax Commissioner. This team maintains taxpayer accounts receivable balances, levies pena lties for late and insufficient payments, and is responsible for debt collection and enforcement. Madam Chairman, the overall direction of the Office of the Tax Commissioner is defined by its str ategic priorities, which are as follows: top- quality taxpayer service; modernisation of the OTC through technology, people, and processes; and enforcement and debt collection. As can be seen on page B -113, Madam Chairman, the total expenditure is $3.972 million; this is made up of $3.451 million in current and $521,000 in capital. There is no increase to the OTC’s current expenditure budget for 2018/19. As can be seen on page C -10, there has been a decrease of 4.2 per cent in capital accounts spending for the next fiscal year 2018/19. Most of this funding is for the taxes information management system, referred to as TIMS, and is currently focused on improvements to the existing land tax module. The payroll tax module for this sy stem is currently on hold. Originally projected timelines have been adjusted, resulting i n funding adjustments for this project. Some of the delays have resulted pr imarily from data cleanup issues, a lack of internal r esources, and a minimal capacity to work on specific project tasks, which, of course, can be seen from the lack of internal res ources at the Office of the Tax Commissioner. Of course, Madam Chairman, all of those posts have been unfrozen by the new Gover nment; so they can be filled. Madam Chairman, as mentioned before, the OTC’s departmental operating expenditure budget has remained the same in 2018/19. The significant differences in the various cost centres are as follows: Salaries increased by $64,000. The budget for sal aries has been increased by $64,000 to reflect the 2.5 per cent increase in staff salaries and to fund the full complement of the staff of the Office of the Tax Commissioner. Professional Services decreased by $29,000. The Professional Services decrease reflects the budget allocated for consultants to the depar tment. This has been decreased for 2018/19 in order to cover the costs of the hiring of the full complement of staff at the OTC. Madam Chairman, revenues are projected to increase by approximately $29 million, or 5 per cent, compared to the original estimate, and the Revenues can be seen on page B -115. As stat ed earlier, payroll tax revenue is anticipated to increase by $10 million, or 2 per cent, when compared to the revised estimate. Madam Chairman, as explained in the Budget Stat ement, employer rates remain unchanged, but the Government will adjust the payro ll tax employee rate bands, providing tax reductions to those earning less than $96,000. It is also estimated that payroll tax r eforms to notional salaries will result in additional rev enues for 2018/19. Land tax revenue is anticipated to increase by $15 million, or 24 per cent, due to the 5 per cent i ncrease on land tax rates on commercial properties. Cruise ship departure taxes are projected to increase by $2.3 million, based on the 2018 cruise ship sche dule, published by the Bermuda Tourism Authority. Most of the tax sites have been conservatively pr ojected at 2017/18 levels. Staff complement and changes. Madam Chairman, there are 29 full -time positions at the Office of the Tax Commissioner, including five vacant posts, four of which are now under current active recruiting. Funding for all posts has been included in the est imates for 2018/19. The office is currently staffed with 21 Bermudians and three non- Bermudians. There is no change to the currently rented space, and the OTC is planning on moving into government premises in the near future. The new TIMS project, as mentioned earlier, is currently focused on improvements to the existing Land Tax module. The Stamp Duty module, the Land
Bermuda House of Assembly Tax Workflow System, and Improvements to E -Tax have all already gone live. The remaining phases of the project are being re- examined due to the esta blishment of the Tax Reform Commission. Quite simply, Madam Chairman, it would not make sense to make changes to an IT system if the tax system may be changing in the future. That is the reason why items have been put on hold. Key achievements, Madam Chairman. The Office of the Tax Commissioner continues to exper ience challenges due to the insufficient staffing and resources, and an inadequate system. Recent external reviews by C ARTAC and the Fiscal Responsibility Panel also commented on OTC’s limited resources and how this will impact the ability to successfully i mplement the recommended tax reforms. The new Government has authorised the filling of these longvacant posts in the Office of the Tax Commissioner to assist in revenue collection, and the OTC are expec ting that the vacant posts will be filled in this current fiscal year. Debt collection and tax enforcement continue to be a priority for OTC. Steps to improve the overall tax culture have improved current collections; however, the excessive arrears from years of decreased economic activity have proven to be much harder to collect and remain a serious concern. The OTC is both actively pursuing the collection of debts to the courts and working closely with the Debt Enforcement Unit of the Attorney General’s Chambers in these efforts. In 2017/18, the Department of Public Prosec utions has also started working with OTC on the next steps to prosecute tax offences in criminal matt ers in an effort to change taxpayer behaviour and to improve voluntary compliance. The OTC will continue in its efforts to escalate matters of collection to the courts in order to reduce outstanding government tax receiv ables. Madam Chairman, the Stamp Dut y Section of the OTC is under significant resource constraints. The section is staffed with one lawyer, an officer, and three administrative staff members. The Primary Family Homestead Programme, which was introduced in 2005, has had a negative impact on t he productivity of this section, and the impact has been compounded every year since. The Stamp Duty Section’s ability to meet its core function, being the adjudication of i nstruments subject to stamp duties, has been negativ ely impacted by the volume of P rimary Family Hom estead applications for living applicants. The Primary Family Homestead exemption need only be applied for on the death of the property owner, by the estate, during the probate process. Opening up the applic ation process to living applicants has created an unnecessary administrative burden on the Stamp Duty Section and has impacted its ability to meet its core mandate. In order to address these concerns, amendments to the Stamp Duties Act 1976 will be proposed, to alter the administration of the Primary Family Homestead Programme. Madam Chairman, these amendments will not result in any loss of exemption to existing or future applications. The amendments are necessary to ensure that administrative resources are not used on unnecessary functio ns. In addition, legi slative amendments to the Office of the Tax Commi ssioner will engage the Management Consulting Ser-vices Department to conduct a review of the Stamp Duties Section. The objective of the review will be to determine the appropriate level of resources neces-sary to address work volumes and internal and external service levels. Madam Chairman, as recommended in the CARTAC Tax Reform Report, in order to improve ef-fective efficiency, the OTC will have no choice but to restructure its organisati on, apply risk -management principles, and to automate its processes. This will involve, amongst other items, shifting from a tax - based to a function- based structure. This reform will happen this year, and the OTC will be the first department that will be r eviewed by the newly formed efficiency team. The department has seen an increase in usage of the E -Tax system from 25 per cent to 36 per cent over the last two years. The OTC will conti nue to roll out mandatory e- filing in order to reduce the number of manually filed paper tax returns, thus enabling OTC staff to focus on more value- added functions such as enforcement and compliance. In 2017/18, the OTC continued to support key government initiatives that provided a relief to taxpa yers and economic sectors. The payroll tax reform has been rolled out, separating the payroll tax structure into the employer and employee portions, effective 1 April 2017, although there was a delay in the employee portions to the second quarter of last fiscal year. OTC personnel have been heavily involved with the tax reform, reviewing legislative changes and liai sing with Government consultants and stakeholders. They have conducted a number of workshops and information seminars that cater to the various emplo yers on the Island to demonstrate and explain the changes to the payroll tax structure. Financial Services tax was also introduced and came into effect at the beginning of this current fiscal year. OTC has been responsible in administering and collecting this tax for the Government. The office has continued to successfully administer all of the other taxes under the OTC’s remit and supported a number of concessions and rebate programmes across a variety of sectors, including the economic empowerment zone, the construction sector relief programmes, and approved projects. Madam Chairman, the major priorities for the OTC in 2018/19 include moderni sation of processes and technology; funding the development of a module for QuickBooks, which will be offered to local taxpa yers to reduce the complexity of tax filing, while i ncreasing compliance; strengthening compliance and 1466 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly enforcement efforts through taxpayer education and audits; and recommending amendments to existing tax legisla tion to improve registration, collection, and enforcement . Madam Chairman, the Ministry of Finance is committed to providing the financial and professional resources to improve the OTC’s effectiveness and efficiency. Along with local professional service pr oviders, the Ministry of Finance will also reach out to CARTAC and deliver technical assistance to the O ffice of the Tax Commissioner. Madam Chairman, before I conclude on Head 38, the Office of the Tax Commissioner, I would like to extend my appreciation for the work undertaken by the entire management and staff of the department, who have worked for many years under very difficult conditions. As I have said, this new Government has recognised that this department needs more assi stance and is not only providing that assistance to that department, but is also pr oviding that assistance to taxpayers to make compliance easier.
HEAD 58 —INTEREST ON DEBT
Hon. E. David Burt: I will now move on to Head 58, my final head for this morning (or this afternoon, now), which is Interest on Debt.
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Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Chairman, Head 58, I nterest on Debt, can be found on page B -121. The budget allocation in 2018/19 for interest on debt is $124 million. The 2017/18 estimate of $124 million represents the ongoing debt service cost for the following debt instruments: • $140 million of Bermuda Government uns ecured senior notes due in 2022 at an interest rate of 5.73 per cent, annual interest $8 mi llion; • $1 million of unsecured notes, maturing on May 21, 2019, an interest rate of 7.38 per cent and an annual interest of $7.4 million ; • $80 million of unsecured senior notes matur-ing on 10 November 2019, with an interest rate of 5.9 per cent and an annual interest of $4.7 million ; • $223,935,000 of unsecured notes, maturing on 20 July 2020, with an interest rate of 5.603 per cent and annual interest of $12.55 million ; • $475 million of unsecured notes maturing on 3 January 2023, with an interest rate of 4.13 per cent and an annual interest bill of $19.6 mi llion; • $715 million of unsecured notes, maturing on 6 February 2024, an inter est rate of 4.854 per cent and an annual interest bill of $36.4 mi llion; • BD$50 million of unsecured senior notes, i ssued on 16 December 2013, maturing on 16 December 2023, interest rate of 4.75 per cent, annual interest bill $2.4 million; • $665 million of unsecured senior notes, m aturing on 25 January 2027, with an interest rate of 3.717 [per cent] and an annual interest bill of $24.7 million; and • $75 million US 18- month loan facility issued on 13 December 2017 and maturing on 13 June 2019, with an interest rate of 4 per cent and an annual interest bill, when fully drawn, at $3 million. The remaining expenses for 2018/19 relate to the estimated interest costs that will be incurred on Government’s long- term borrowing requirements for this budget year, which is estimated at an additional $5 [million] to $6 million in ongoing expenses inc idental to the various securities, such as trustee and exchange fees. The weighted average cost of borro wing currently stands at 4.64 per cent. Honourable Members are advised that the revised estimated annual interest expense of $119.5 million for fiscal year 2017/18 is anticipated to be about 11.4 per cent of government revenues. And, of course, this means that for every dollar collected, approximately 12 cents is paid on interest expense. The interest expense- to-revenue ratio for countries rated similar to Bermuda is 5.1 per cent, and the same ratio for advanced industrial countries is about 4.1 per cent. It is noted that Bermuda’s ratio is far worse than those countries and has grown from 2,019, when this ratio was just 1.9 per cent. Madam Chairman, the Government has a target debt service- to-revenue ratio set at 10 per cent. It is important to note that debt service includes the annual Sinking Fund contribution. Therefore, w hen i ncluding the annual Sinking Fund contribution, the debt service -to-revenue ratio will stand at 17.3 per cent for the upcoming fiscal year. This is a decline from 18 per cent in the last fiscal year. We will work towards r educing this ratio to the 10 per cent target level over the medium term. This will be accomplished by gro wing the economy, coupled with continuous deficit r eduction and via prudent fiscal management on the part of the Government. Thank you, Madam Chairman. This concludes my remarks on Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58 for the Mi nistry of Finance.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Minister. Would anyone like to speak to the heads? Just for the listening audience, we are deba ting Finance, and the Heads are 10, 12, 38, and 58. The Chair now recognises the Leader of the Opposition, of constituency 19, Jeanne Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, …
Thank you, Minister. Would anyone like to speak to the heads? Just for the listening audience, we are deba ting Finance, and the Heads are 10, 12, 38, and 58. The Chair now recognises the Leader of the Opposition, of constituency 19, Jeanne Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
Bermuda House of Assembly First of all, I want to say thank you very much for the Premier/Minister of Finance for giving me quite an extensive brief. I must admi t he was able to go through that at record speed. But I was able to keep up with what he was talking about. So I will start off right now by going to Head 10, which is on page B -98. And I must say that, Premier, I am going to say this because I think this is something that my colleagues have found over time. When we started to have discussions about the salaries, especially when we started to talk about the salaries, there is this (what I call) discrepancy between what the Budget Book says in terms of the number of heads, the actual financial expenditure, and the difference in terms of what is seen as a variance. So, if we start to go to page B -98 . . .
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Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: If you go to page B -98, which is where you are going to look at Salar ies, okay, and I am now looking at the Ministry of Finance, Sal aries, page B -101, the employee numbers. This is the Policy Planning and Management. There is an indic ation here that there was an original four persons. The revised indication for 2017/18 is t hat there were three people who were actually hired. But when you go and look at the actual estimate for 2018/19, there is an indication that there was one more person who was not on staff. And I find it sort of ironic because when you look at the actual s alary cost items, there is an indication here that the salaries for the year were actually the same as what was there. Maybe I can restate that to make it clear. The salaries on page B -100 are indicating that the original salaries are $1,787,000. This has been revised for 2017/18 as $1,787,000, which is indicating that there was no variance, that all of the money was spent. But when you go and you look at the headcount on page B-101, there is an indication that the department was one short. And I just wondered if the Minister could just explain, because this is something that comes up often, where the salaries, the dollar amount, is indicat-ing something that says that all of the monies have been spent. And when you look at the headcount, the headcount is indicating a vacancy. And the reason I am asking that is because there has been a lot of talk about the fact that there was a freeze, that the headcounts were not able to be spent and services were not actually carried out. But the numbers do not reflect that . The numbers reflect money having been spent, but headcount being v acant. So I just wondered whether some of these salary costs might have been utilised elsewhere, because if the positions are vacant, but the salary expenditure is indicating that it has been totally spent, then it just leads one to wonder whether they were used els ewhere. And could the Minister explain what the funds might have been spent on? (And I do know that the Minister did give me some additional information in terms of salaries.) If you then go to page B -101, where there is an indication that, for NAMLC, there are going to be three new salaried posts, three new employees who are going to come on. And I just wondered if the Mi nister could indicate where those salaries were actually captured for the previous year. Because my understanding was that the NAMLC persons were already around and they were contributing, because I know that when we were the Government, they would come and report to us on their activities. So I just wondered if the Minister could indicate where were the NAMLC staff for 2017/18, although we are showing there will be three new people for 2018/19? I know that the Minister did answer one of my questions, which is relating to the travel budget. I was curious because, w hen you go from page B -99, which is showing that NAMLC, for 2018/19, had 663 for expenditure, and NAMLC had three staff members, I was curious as to what might have been the actual additional expenditure. I had made some assumptions that it might have been 443, but I think the Minister actually told us what the NAMLC cost would be. And it was interesting because I was pleased that the Mini ster indicated that the difference in the NAMLC was not just the salaries, but also the travel that was required. So that was a useful piece of information that the Mi nister supplied, which you could not get just from the Budget Book. But it was good that he actually supplied that information. Okay.
The ChairmanChairmanWhile you are taking a break there, may I just put out there whether you would like to have these questions answered before lunch? Or do you want to continue speaking and then carry over? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, I will continue. And then they can be all answered. …
While you are taking a break there, may I just put out there whether you would like to have these questions answered before lunch? Or do you want to continue speaking and then carry over?
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, I will continue. And then they can be all answered. So, no, I am sorry. I am ready to break for lunch if that is what you are as king.
The ChairmanChairmanNo. We will have five minutes. I just did not know if you wanted answers before lunch. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, no. I do not want them answered right at this minute. I will just continue. On page B -100, and although the Minister did go down a lot …
No. We will have five minutes. I just did not know if you wanted answers before lunch. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, no. I do not want them answered right at this minute. I will just continue. On page B -100, and although the Minister did go down a lot of items, the Minister skipped over the Repairs and Maintenance budget, which this year is a new expenditure, which is $290,000. So I just won-dered if the Minister could indicate to us what this is going to be allocated for. With respect to training, I understand—and let me just say I am glad that the Minister spelled out some of this —that it is actually very important for the staffing to have the training, because we have a lot of reviews that are coming up. 1468 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly On page B -100, looking at Grants and Contr ibutions, this is something that I found was a little un usual. And I do not know why it occurs. But page B -99, under Grants, which is the grants to the National Pension Commission, it shows the estimate for 2018/1 9 as $1 million. But if you go to page C -16, page C -16 shows that it is actually $1,057,000 that was going to be spent. And the difference is $57,000 which is going for the CFATF contribution. And I just wondered if the Minister could indicate where that $57,000 has been allocated; to which business unit have those funds been allocated? With respect to Revenues, which is on page B-100, the Minister indicated that the $188,000 is for the BNTB [ Bank of N. T. Butterfield & Son Limited] guarantee, and I just wondered if the Minister could indicate how long that guarantee will last, whether it has any sort of life cycle attached to it? Okay. I was intrigued by some of the performance measures. And if you go to page B -102, with respect to the GDP [gross domestic product], I notice that the Ministry and the Minister had indicated that it was going to be lowering its GDP down from 1.5 . . . actually, it was going to be down to 0.75. And I just wondered whether this lowering was reflected after the Budget Book was act ually produced. I did go through and try to do the calculation in terms of the government’s net debt -to-revenue ratio, and I could clearly calculate the original forecast for 2017/18 and the revised forecast for 2017/18. But I was not able to do the calcul ation for 2018/19. So, I just wondered if the Minister could clarify the calcul ation. Because basing it on the net debt that was outstanding and the revenues, I definitely did not come up with the 215 per cent. With respect to the interest as a percentage of revenue, I found that it was easy to turn and come up with the calculation for the actual outcome (I am still on page B -102) for the original forecast and the r evised forecast. But similarly, with respect to the tar-geted outcome for 2018/19, there just seemed to be a discrepancy. So I just wondered if the Minister could clarify how he came up with that calculation. If I now go back to the notes that the Minister produced . . .
The ChairmanChairmanOpposition Leader, while you are taking a pause there, it is l unchtime. So, would you give leave? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, yes.
The ChairmanChairmanThanks. Minister of Finance. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move that the House now adjourn, to come back at two o’clock, after lunc h.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. We will be back at two o’clock, after lunch. Thanks. Proceedings suspended at 12:32 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:03 pm [Ms. Susan E. Jackson, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2018/19 MINISTRY OF FINANCE [Continuation thereof]
The ChairmanChairmanGood afternoon, Members. We are back in Committee of Supply, and we will continue with the debate on Finance. We are debating Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. I now yield to and recognise the Le ader of the Opposition from constituency 19, Jeanne Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank …
Good afternoon, Members. We are back in Committee of Supply, and we will continue with the debate on Finance. We are debating Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. I now yield to and recognise the Le ader of the Opposition from constituency 19, Jeanne Atherden.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I just want to go back and circle back for a moment, just for those people who are in the listening audience, just to give them a framework to indicate that we chose certain heads in this Ministry for some particular reasons. And perhaps I should have indicated at the very beginning that we had chosen Head 10, which is the Ministry Headquarters, because it carried out some very significant and important functions. It has NAMLC; it has the Treaty Management; it has the Economic and Financial Intelligence, and the Business Regulations. And sometimes people do not realise . . . they are so focused on the services that they get from the Government that they do not always realise that the Government also has to do some things just to make sure that Bermuda is functioning and make sure that Bermuda keeps the position that it has globally. So it was important for us to understand that looking at Head 10 gave us the opportunity for the Minister of Finance to give us some more information about some of these areas where the Government works and performs. And the reason I say that is because when I went and I Iooked back at what the Mi nister reminded us of what this head did, I think that there are two things that resonated to me. One, because most people will get the fact that, Finance has to assure the alignment of source allocation with policy priorities . So that is what most people get. They make sure that we get the resources in to enable us to deliver the priorities that are out there.
Bermuda House of Assembly What most people do not get, though, is the fact that another function was using output and performance measures to evaluate programme expenditure. And that, to me, is something . . . and you will hear me harping all the time, as we go through this Budget debate, that it is not just about how well . . . it is not just about whether the money was spent on budget and on time. But it really is important to make sure that t he programme outcomes that the money was supposed to be spent on actually were produced. Because that is where the people know that they get the bang for the buck, and that is where they know that the priorities have been achieved. So I just wanted to rem ind the listening aud ience and the Members in the House that this was very important as we go forward. The Minister of Finance also indicated that . . . and this is talking about Ministry Headquarters. The Minister of Finance indicated that part of the Hea dquarters increase was due to a NAMLC transfer. So I obviously understood that, and that was explained. But he also said that there was a 2.5 [per cent] salary uplift and that accounted for a $56,000 increase. Now, to most people that might not seem like a lot. But for me it raised a concern about whether the 2.5 [per cent] salary uplift has been taken into consideration across all of the ministries. Because earlier, during a debate, there was a question raised about whether the salary uplift had been inc luded. And the response was that the department head had been advised by the Budget Office to not include the impact of a 2.5 [per cent] salary uplift. Now, that is significant because I know that the Finance Minister has told us that it is going to be around $6.8 million. And I would like to hope that the other departments have taken this into consideration just the same way he has. But a department head did indicate that it had not been taken into consideration. And that would be worrying, because that w ould mean that the budget that we have here might not have i ncluded all of the expenditure that the Government will have to pay for this current fiscal year. That said, I then want to go around to . . . the Minister did explain the question that I had wit h respect to Repairs and Maintenance, because I went back and I re- looked at his Budget brief, and the R epairs and Maintenance item is something that is r eferred to as the maintenance of the new techs exchange portal . And I guess I was just curious as to . . . under normal circumstances if one has . . . I would view a portal as a capital asset. So I just was curious as to whether this maintenance . . . is this something that is going to be an ongoing maintenance for the portal, or whether it was something t hat had more to do with what I call almost like a depreciation? So if that could be explained. There was an explanation with respect to the EU consultants, the fact that there was a decrease of $216,000. And that was relating to consulting fees that were transferred to Cabinet Office. But what I was curious about . . . the Professional Services only went down by $90,000. So I just wondered what other fees had been included with respect to bumping the amount up, because $216,000 was going down for the trans fer to Cabinet Office, but that line item only went down by $9,000 [sic].
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Line item, Professional Services. That went down by $90,000. But in his brief the Finance Minister indicated that $216,000 of consultant fees had been transferred to Cabinet Office. I presume that they came out of Professional [Services], so they did not go down by 216 they only went down by 90. So I am presuming that there are some additional professional fees that have been added back in there. And if the Minister is able to indicate what they were . . . In going through and looking at heads (I am going back now to Head 10) it was very significant for me that the Minister quoted the fact the Fiscal R esponsibility Panel was talking about Government going and getting the degree of inequity right and also talking about growing revenues. But I also was r eminded of the fact that that Fiscal Responsibility Panel also reminded us in Government (and this is on page 17 of the Fiscal Responsi bility Panel [report]) . . . and if I can quote it for just a moment because it ties into the notation that the Minister said that there was one headcount, an assistant financial secretary, a post that is not filled in that Ministry, and that consideration is being given as to whether it will actually be filled. And the only point I would like to make is the fact that the Fiscal Responsibility Panel had indicated that it was important that Government look at the way in which it did business, to look at mak ing sure that it can be as efficient as it could be. And I would like . . . I would hope that before that [post] is filled, and in any [posts] that are being filled, that the whole question of making sure that the departments are as efficient as they could be is very fully examined. Because what was also said was the fact that the Fiscal Responsibi lity Panel were raising some concerns about having to find taxes to cover all of these expenditures, and people feeling like why are they having to cover this burden if maybe the size of Government could be smaller and more efficient . So I just raise that point. With respect to . . . on page 11 of the—
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Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry.
The ChairmanChairmanPlease continue. 1470 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeann e J. Atherden: Okay, on page 11 of the Minister’s brief he also indicated that the Government was going to come in, that the projected operating expenses were going to be $921 million, which was …
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeann e J. Atherden: Okay, on page 11 of the Minister’s brief he also indicated that the Government was going to come in, that the projected operating expenses were going to be $921 million, which was lower than the $923 million originally budgeted, and he indic ated that this was because the Government had paid close attention to spending and expected to . . . he said “exceed.” So I am not sure whether in the context of that word, and if I just read it, it did not come across, Finance Minister. It said: “We have paid close attention to spending and expect to exceed the original est imate from last year. ” So, if I read that in line with spending, “exceed” might not be . . . this is on page 11.
Hon. E. David Burt: I am happy to clarify, if she will allow. The Chai rman: Yes, Minister.
POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Hon. E. David Burt: As was stated in the Budget, we are expecting to exceed the expenditure targets. That means we are going to come in under budget. My apologies for the non- clarity there. It is the exact same thing that is in the National Budget Statement. The original estimates for current account spending a pproved by the former Government were $923.5 million and our revised estimates for current account spen ding show $921.5 million.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you for the clarification. Member, you may proceed. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, but I mean most times when one is talking about expenditures and exceeding, one is thinking of them going upwards rather than going down. But that is fine. But I think this is — [Inaudible interjection] …
Thank you for the clarification. Member, you may proceed.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, but I mean most times when one is talking about expenditures and exceeding, one is thinking of them going upwards rather than going down. But that is fine. But I think this is —
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Pardon? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, no, I appreciate that. I am not, I am not . . . I have given you full marks for giving it to me. I appreciate that. I give it to you. [Inau dible interjection] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am sure the Finance Minister does not feel like he is being flogged. I think he is feeling like I am just gently raising some concerns. And in the spirit of not flogging, I guess I should just say that —
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: —I should just say that —
The ChairmanChairmanSorry one voice. There is one Member on her feet speaking—one voice —that is all we should hear. Member, you may proceed. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: In terms of trying to get clarity . . . because it is not just clarity in this House. It is also clarity for …
Sorry one voice. There is one Member on her feet speaking—one voice —that is all we should hear. Member, you may proceed.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: In terms of trying to get clarity . . . because it is not just clarity in this House. It is also clarity for the public that is out there. The mere fact that the Finance Minister . . . and he has confirmed that his expenditures will be below the budget that had been set by the One Bermuda Alliance, the former Government, it just raises the question as to why there was a need for a supplementary. So I need to ask the Finance Minister about the $991 million that he is saying will be the appropri ation for the year. Can he advise w hether that includes the supplementary? Okay. Now then, I will move on to some other information that was recorded. It was quite interesting that the Minister gave us some information with r espect to some of the other work that is being done. And I think that the understanding is that we will have to have $90 million of new borrowing. I found that i nteresting because we were going to have $19 million of new borrowing, but the Minister had indicated that we had come in under budget with respect to debt interest and, therefore, I was just curious as to whet her there had been any sort of repayment during the year. Because, obviously, now we are going back up, borrowing $90 million, and we are going to go and have the same budgeted amount that we had—$124 million. With respect to the pensions, it was interes ting that the Finance Minister made reference to the Pensions and what we were doing about them be-cause I do think that lots of people are quite interested in pensions. They are interested in their own pen-sions; they are interested in the government pension. And I was quite intrigued by the statistics that had been given with respect to the pensions that are out there, and not so much as to why people borrow or want to borrow their money, because I was quite aware of that. And I was quite aware of the fact that right now the private pensions allow you to come and, if it meets the criteria, then you are able to go through and borrow a certain amount of money on your pension. And I guess I will have to ask the Minister b ecause it has been asked of me, and it is something that the general public wants to understand . . . they look at the fact that they can see in the private sector that people can go out and borrow money, if they might lose their house or if they had a medical expense, et cetera. So for them it is, Well, why can’t I come and borrow money off of my government pe nsion? And I might know the answer, but I do think it is important that the public understands that part of this
Bermuda House of Assembly relates to the whole issue of the funding, and it relates to some of the things that you said that you were going to look at during this coming year, which is relating to conducting a review of our pension arrangements to determine whether public and private pensions are set at appr opriate levels, and also continuing the r eview of all government pension plans to determine sustainability of the funds. I think that this is something that the people of Bermuda want to know and need to know because, as I say, they know that in the private sector they can borrow. And for those people who have no pension other than what is in the government one, they are wondering why their mate can down the street, and if he is going to lose his [home] or if he has got a medi-cal emergency, that mate can get it, but the person that is in the government plan cannot. I think what I was very concerned about, and I think that many people outside of government feel the same as I do, is the fact that when you were talking about the Economic and Financial Intelligence Unit, and some things that were going to be worked on during the coming year, continuing to work with the Go vernment Employee Health Insurance Committee to assist in redesigning the health plan, I believe that, and I think that most people will believ e that that is overdue. This is overdue and, therefore, the need to get that to some conclusion is essential, partially b ecause not only does it affect the whole question of the bargaining unit, it also impacts on some issues with respect to comparability when negotiations are taking place between the various unions. So I believe it is very important that this be resolved so that people can feel that, regardless of which union you are in, that there is a degree of fairness.
[Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan, Chair man]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman, I am going to ask you if I can ask, through you to the Minister . . . he did talk about that the Unit will continue in the d evelopment of regulations and legislation in the Financial Technology industry. And then he talked about continuing to work with the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund Manager. And I just wondered if he is able to provide any information as to . . . which is the Fortress Fund? If he can provide any information as to where we are with respect to get ting that fund, in terms of having it populated, in terms of monies coming in, also in terms of decisions as to how it could be utilised as well as information . . . because I know that it is . . . At a previous time there was a question about which fees were going to be charged. But the bottom line is, regardless of the fees, the most important thing that the public out there would be interested in would be how these funds are going to be used. Because infrastructure . . . there are infrastructure needs t hat are out there. And if they are going to be taken care of, then it is time to get that moving. And if there is some movement, I think the people would like to know that this has taken place. Thank you, Minister, for giving us an indic ation of the various treaties . . . not the treaties so much, because many times you come and you give information about where you have been and what has been signed. But I think we do not realise that in the background of that is a lot of travel that has to take place for attendance at the OECD Global Forums and a lot of other things where our representatives are out there making sure that we establish the relationships and build those relationships. So I think that this is all that I wanted to raise with respect to Head 1 0, Headquarters. I will now move to—
The ChairmanChairmanMadam Opposition Leader, while you are looking for your place, I just want to say that this debate concludes at 4:29 pm. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay, good, thank you,
Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanCont inue on. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you. Just before I leave the pensions, in terms of reviewing the existing retirement age under the N ational Pension Scheme legislation, I think that is another one which, especially right now where we are having is sues with respect to whether …
Cont inue on. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you. Just before I leave the pensions, in terms of reviewing the existing retirement age under the N ational Pension Scheme legislation, I think that is another one which, especially right now where we are having is sues with respect to whether we have enough Bermudians in the workforce, are people, are seniors, able to manage on their existing salaries? Would they be able to continue working if they have the ability, and would that help them? I think exami ning that w ould be something that lots of people are very much interested in. I know that there are some issues, but there is also the saying that where there’s a will there’s a way . So, I would like to think that we will be able to hear something shortly. So, Mr. C hairman, I will finish Head 10 now for myself. I will now go to the next one which is Head 12—my favourite— which is Customs. And that is on page B -98. The reason I say that this is my favourite is because this is where the revenue engine is. And, as you r ightly indicated, the Customs Department is the one that . . . the money, et cetera, that is collected in this area is very important. I should not say that this is the “engine” because the engine is actually down in the Office of the Tax Commissioner.
The ChairmanChairmanHonourable Member , not to interrupt, but B -109 is Head 12 and B -98 refers to the Summary of all Ministry Heads. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, I was actually star ting there so that I could actually just remind all of us that if you go to B …
Honourable Member , not to interrupt, but B -109 is Head 12 and B -98 refers to the Summary of all Ministry Heads. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, I was actually star ting there so that I could actually just remind all of us that if you go to B -98— 1472 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Yes?
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: —it is just indicating that the original budget for Customs was $593 million. The revised budget was $594 million. And the new est imate is $623,840,000. (I am rounding off.) And the only reason I say that is because when we start to discuss some of the changes I think it is important to be able to know what the original was, what the r evised was, and what the next estimate is for the com-ing year. That was just to put everything in perspec-tive so that we could be clear that between the revised and the estimate there was going to be $29 million of additional revenue which is being projected. If you then go to Head 12, page B -109, you start to look at some of the changes there. And I did not start off initially wi th the biggest item, which was the Customs Duty. I actually started off with some of the smaller items because it was . . . I find it intriguing that in terms of the Customs Duty from the General Post Office [GPO], which is cost centre 8009, that there was an indication that the original budget was $775,000, the revised budget was $842,000, which was a modest increase, and the estimate for next year was going to be the same. And I was just intrigued because I know that the GPO . . . there had been a lot of opportunities to try and make people use the GPO as a place to bring goods in and to try and sort of compete with some of the courier services, et cetera. But it just seemed to me that if we have an increase in revenues . . . I just was not sure as to why there would not be any expectation to have another increase into the next year. But if you then turn around and you turn . . . and it is interesting, Mr. Chairman, because the litt le chirp that came up just actually put me right onto my next item, which i s to talk about Customs Duty. If you look at Customs Duty and you realise that the original budget for 2017/18 was $222,941,000, the revised budget is for $230,169,000 and the estimate for 2018/19 is $34 million, now, sometimes you actually start to think , Okay, if we had that nice increase of $8 million between . . . if you a ctually go and say for 2016 (because I think sometimes we have to go back to that) . . . in 2016 we only had $210 million. Actually , the revised between 2017/18 was $230 million, so w e actually got $20 million of extra revenue in that last year.
And I think everybody is honest, will accept the fact that a lot of that was the America’s Cup. A lot of that was people bringing in goods, whether they were being used for the America’s Cup, whether they were being used for construction or whatever else. But these were things that resulted in an extra $20 million of revenue, which was why I was curious as to why the Minister was only forecasting an additional $4 million of revenue for 2018/19. And I say curious, because on the one hand he needs to be conservative. I do not think that we could turn around and say that the demand that was driven by the America’s Cup . . . we do not have an America’s Cup; so you cannot say that those types of revenues would be coming through. But I also know that some of the demand also related to construction projects. So it is possible that maybe the construction projects that are starting might also drive the revenue. So, on the one hand I am not criticising him for just putting in another $4 million up; but I am also recognising that the bottom line is that revenues are going to be what we have to achieve. And if we do not achieve it, then we are not going to be able to deal with the expenditures that we have. I am looking at the line item, and the Minister did indicate that he was anticipating that there would be duty increases in terms of the continuation of the economic improvements, which is good. I do know that I read in one or two of the economic review s that have been done on Bermuda indicating that it had started to stabilise and, therefore, there is an apprec iation that maybe we are starting to have consumer confidence grow. But it just made me curious as to whether the adjustments in the duty rates o n certain key items, which is also something that the Minister put into place, so I know that is a positive . . . I just was not certain whether that was going to offset suff iciently, what I call the $20 million bump that we got from America’s Cup. So I j ust wondered if the . . . I am just raising it from the perspective of saying to the Minister that it was a bump, and whether the construction equipment that came in—
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Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Anyway . . . so there was also an indication, and I must admit the— [Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am pleased. I am pleased that for the first time I have seen an indication of how much the Sugar Tax is proposed to bring— the $3 million. And I did not see anything anyw here which talked about how much of that would go towards education and to help people understand what they nee ded to do to change their lifestyles, et cetera. Perhaps, perhaps, that is already something that is in the Health Minister’s budget. But I do t hink that it would go a long way if people could see a dollar sum out there to help them understand that it is not just about chocolates, and it is not just about sweets. It is actually about all the food that you eat. Barbeque sauce has just as much sugar as some other items. So it was quite interesting. Now, I must admit, and maybe this was just a typo in your brief. You said container fees are
Bermuda House of Assembly $1,019,000. But the Book actually had $959,000. So did something change in between? I am just asking because I am just looking at the Book, and I am looking at your brief. I did not know whether it was som ething else that had come up after that. I do realise that I saw something earlier, and I think the Minister can confirm . . . I know that the Minister was working on the Unified Customs Reform. But I think I read som ewhere that this was deferred until such time as the Tax Reform Committee could do its deliberation. So if that is . . . I am pretty sure that this is what occurred. With respect to 8053, which is the Y acht Arr ivals, I just wondered . . . although it is not a big item, the Yacht Arrivals went up from $76,000 to $103,000 in 2017/18. And we are anticipating another $103[,000] to $104,000 in 2018/19. And I just wondered whether Government has any sort of pr ogramme which is designed to try and get these yachts to come back to Bermuda. I know a lot came for America’s Cup and I know that a lot of people understand now that Bermuda is a good place to come on their way going back and forth. So I just wondered whether anything was planned to make sure that this would happen. Okay, with respect to Container Fees, orig inally in 2016/17 the actual was $976,000; the original for 2017/18 was revised downward to $705,000; but actually it has been revised upwards again to $957,000. So I was just curious as to whether there was any sort of delay or anything. And I say that because I know that there is a company that actually produces reports showing the container arrivals which lets people know how many containers are coming because it gives an indicator of economic activity. So I just wanted to find out whether the $957,000 . . . I presume it might have something to do with stuff that was brought in. And, even if it was duty - free, the container arrival would not be . . . so I just wondered if there was anything additional that the Minister had contemplated in terms of indicating that it would stay at that same level. With respect to Custom Service Charges, I just wondered if the Minister could just clarify what that is. And the reason I say clarify what that is is because the actual for 2016/17 is $589,000. The original was $1,223,000, and the revised is $711,000. So it just made me wonder as to what we were actually getting. I really wanted to go on to the Office of the Tax Commissioner and that —
The ChairmanChairmanWe are moving to B -113, we are d ebating Head 38, we are under Finance. This debate goes until 4:29 pm. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Right, okay. So, this . . . I am going back to B-98, just because that is where …
We are moving to B -113, we are d ebating Head 38, we are under Finance. This debate goes until 4:29 pm. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Right, okay. So, this . . . I am going back to B-98, just because that is where the Ministry is, and that is where you get to see what I call the overview. You actually see the Office of the Tax Commissioner. It indicates that there is no change all the way across . . . 2016/17, $3,403,000; the origi nal 2017/18, $3,451,000; the revised 2017/18, $3,451,000; and then in the next year $3,451,000. And the reason I say that is because when you read and you go back and look at the rest of the information that is in there about the Office of the Tax Commissi oner, there is a lot of indication there that the Tax Commissioner’s Office was not fully staffed, that there were things that happened, and—
[Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman, the Budget numbers —
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: The Budget numbers ind icate that the expenditure has gone at the same level, that it has not changed. And what I am looking at is saying that if it had not changed, and if right now we are turning around . . . and you can go to pag e B-114. If you turn to page B -114 (which is where the Office of the Tax Commissioner is) you will see that it says the headcount was supposed to be 29, 29, and 29. So there is no change . . . there is no change in the heads. And what I am concerned about is that if you have no change in the heads and if you have the dollar amount still unchanged, how are we then going to turn around —
[Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, point of clarific ation, if the Honourable Opposition Leader wi ll yield.
POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I hate to interrupt the Opposition Leader, but I do not want members of the public to be misinformed. And I would like for this debate to be fruitful. The fact is that for as long as we know there are posts which are budgeted, which are funded, and those that are actually filled. And under the policy of the former Government, even though the posts were funded, as a budget control measure the former Mini ster of Finance just did not approve any posts. So the money is there and the funds were not approved. Now maybe that money was used for som ething else. I cannot tell you what they used the money for as it was underneath their watch —
[Inaudible interjections ]
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: But what I can say is because the post numbers are there, those represent established posts, and those will also represent funded posts. And the funded posts which existed were not filled by the former administration. We have author-ised those posts to be filled. They were previously funded. We have authorised those posts to be filled and, therefore, they are going to be filled. [Inaudible interjection]
The ChairmanChairmanContinue on, Opposition Leader. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman, I am glad that the Finance Minister said that because, irrespective of what might have happened before in terms of 2016/17, 2017/18, which is where the current Government is in place, they had the budget available to them and the …
Continue on, Opposition Leader.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman, I am glad that the Finance Minister said that because, irrespective of what might have happened before in terms of 2016/17, 2017/18, which is where the current Government is in place, they had the budget available to them and the opportunity to spend that money if they chose. Now, according to this the money has been spent because the budgets are indicating that all that money that was there was spent —
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: —and the headcount, which is there, is indicating that the [posts] are filled. So all I am saying is that . . . as the Minister sugges ted, maybe that money was spent on other items, because I know that some departments might have chosen to, if they were not able to get the headcount, to use consultants. Consultants would have enabled them —
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Consultants would have enabled them to get . . . So anyway, my question to the Finance Minister is the fact that the numbers have not changed. Therefore, I just wondered whether the Finance Minister is able to indicate whether the funds that were reserved for those positions which were not filled, whether they were then filled by other means so that the service to the country was actually mai ntained. Because according to this there is not a budget surplus left in this particular department. Now, the Minister actually turned and in the discussion he said some things about this department which are a concern that I have had for a long time. This is about the fact that the Office of the Tax Commissione r is the department that generates the large percentage of the revenue. It is in that department where the largest amount of revenue is collected. And there are some concerns about whether these rev enues are being collected, whether there is the ability for the department to be able to maintain just the re venues that are currently collected, and if we are going to turn and introduce new revenues or additional rev-enue sources. There is a real concern as to whether they will be able to manage it. And I would just . . . if you will just . . . if I can just read something for a m inute, Mr. Chairman?
The ChairmanChairmanAnd you are reading from? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am reading from the Fi scal Responsibility Panel, okay?
The ChairmanChairmanOkay. Hon. Jeanne J. Athe rden: And then there is an ind ication here, and it says . . . and I am reading this for two reasons; not just the one that they think I am going to read it for. It says that —
The ChairmanChairmanWhich page are you on? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is page 20. It says: “Last year’s Panel Report emphasised the continuing importance of efforts to prioritize more effectively government budgetary allocations to ‘address inefficiencies and to demonstrate the Government’s commitment to improve efficiency and reduce w aste.’ The then …
Which page are you on?
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is page 20. It says: “Last year’s Panel Report emphasised the continuing importance of efforts to prioritize more effectively government budgetary allocations to ‘address inefficiencies and to demonstrate the Government’s commitment to improve efficiency and reduce w aste.’ The then Opposition in its reply to the 2017 Budget Speech echoed this view.” It was important that the Opposition echoed the view and, therefore, I am very pleased. But they go on to say that: “We also emphasised that an i ncrease in spending in some areas (such as in tax administration or tourism marketing) might yield greater revenue or higher economic growth.” So that was the Fiscal Responsibility Panel suggesting that maybe in the area of tax administr ation there might be a benefit of putting some more resources in there. And I believe that this is something that really needs to be looked at. But I also believe that this should be looked at in the context of, if you are able to save money somewhere else, then try and do that too because just addi ng bodies so that the expenses go up is counterproductive. And I do think that there is one other thing that is here, and I am sure that Minister Burch will know what I am saying. It is the fact that this is talking about . . . there is a concern that is i ndicating about how long it takes for the Human Resource Department to be able to bring these positions to market. And I think that this is something that is very important, because it does not make sense having positions available to be filled if there is a long lead time to get those people in position. And sometimes it is not just about saying whether you are allowing it to be unfilled, it is actually sometimes because you have been given permission to fill them but you just cannot get them filled. And by the time you get the people there they have moved on and, therefore, you have what is left where a depar tment is unfilled, under -resourced, with the result that
Bermuda House of Assembly you have revenues which are not collected and you have these growing accounts receivable. So I think it is very important that we understand that. So I will then go on to—
The ChairmanChairmanStill on Head 38? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, I still am, I am just going to put my other notes here.
The ChairmanChairmanWe are on Finance, debating Head 38 on pa ge B-113. This debate concludes at 4:29 pm. The Opposition Leader, the Shadow Finance Minister, has the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Now the Finance Minister did clarify the fact that the cruise ship departures were going up. And that was …
We are on Finance, debating Head 38 on pa ge B-113. This debate concludes at 4:29 pm. The Opposition Leader, the Shadow Finance Minister, has the floor.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Now the Finance Minister did clarify the fact that the cruise ship departures were going up. And that was because of, obviously, the tourism marketing. I think that the point that I want to make . . . and this goes . . . if you go to page B -115, and then you look at 8075, Voluntary Land Conveyances, I am just raising the question because there was $275,000 actual. The or iginal budget was $500,000. It has been revised up to $750,000. And then it has been revised back down to $500,000. Now I know that there has been some concern about this department in terms of revenues collected and the ability to make sure that the values, with respect, because the voluntary conveyances . . . there is a need to have the value of the land agreed upon with the Tax Department. And I do know that there were some issues with respect to ge tting it done and [concerning the] backlog. So I just w ondered if the Minister is able to turn around and indicate what actual revenues were collected to December 2017 for Voluntary Land Conveyances. And the reason I am asking to December 2017 is because we are now three months gone by and the department shoul d be able to say what that figure is. I am not asking for the end of the year be-cause we have not gotten there yet. But for December 2017, if there was an indication as to how much volu ntary land conveyance revenue had been actually co llected. And this is going back to B -115, 8222, the Betting Tax Tariffs. Is the Minister able just to indicate . . . it was originally $869,000. It was actually up to . . . it was said it was going to be $1,575,000. It actually came down to 159, and we are anticipating 875. I just wondered if the Minister is able to indicate whether this was a delay or whether there was some issue with respect to being able to implement this tax, be-cause that is a real wide swing if you go on the basis that the actual was $869[,000]. So it is not like you were talking about implementing something, you actually had an actual $869[,000]; you thought it was going to almost double, and then it actually almost went down by 400 per cent, and now it is due to go back up again. The Chairman: Is that 80 23 you are referring to?
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, I am referring to 8023.
The ChairmanChairmanThe Betting Tax Tariffs. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, yes, the Betting Tax. Now I do want to leave some time because I know that one of my other colleagues wa nt to be able to ask some questions. This is 8051. Could the Minister just clarify, the Airport Departure? …
The Betting Tax Tariffs.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, yes, the Betting Tax. Now I do want to leave some time because I know that one of my other colleagues wa nt to be able to ask some questions. This is 8051. Could the Minister just clarify, the Airport Departure? Now, I know why it was there in 2016/17, but nothing was in there for 2017/18. But there is money in the revised for 2017/18, and nothing back out f or 2018/19. So if he could just clarify why we thought we were going to —
The ChairmanChairmanOkay, 8051 on page B — Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: —B-115.—
The ChairmanChairman—115. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay?
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay, then 8033, the H otel Occupancy Tax. And this gets back to . . . we were talking about America’s Cup, and we were talking about whether there were other things that are com-ing. Hotel Occupancy Tax, 8033. The actual for 2016/17 was …
Thank you.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay, then 8033, the H otel Occupancy Tax. And this gets back to . . . we were talking about America’s Cup, and we were talking about whether there were other things that are com-ing. Hotel Occupancy Tax, 8033. The actual for 2016/17 was $7,951,000. The original w as $11,500,000. And we almost made it with $10,450,000. And I just wondered if there was an ything else, recognising that Occupancy Tax, especially with hotels, is driven by people coming and there is not . . . I know there is the Triathlon, but I just wondered whether we anticipating that we are going to have that same level of air arrivals, because occupa ncy is actually driven by air arrivals. Okay, this is getting back to . . . I am looking now at Performance Measures on page B -116. And as I said before, for me, performance measures are the way the public can tell how well a department is functioning. And the bottom line is . . . it is important as to how it is functioning. So there was an indication, it says respond to taxpayers’ correspondence within 10 days of receipt . Last year they only managed to do that 30 per cent of the time, and they are talking about doing that 50 per cent of the time for this next year. Talking about processing schemes for approval within 30 days of application, they were only able to do that 60 per cent of the time and now anticipate 70 [per cent]. And I say this because if you cannot meet your performance measure standards, then it means there is something wrong. 1476 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Ber muda House of Assembly I would like to think that as the Ministry and the department look at how they are going to review this department, recognising that it is an important department, that it ends up being properly staffed. And maybe it is not just staffing. Maybe it is technolo-gy. Maybe there are some other things. All I am just saying is the fact that I think the public wants to be able to see that this is going to work because the re venues that are going to be generated are what the Government is going to need to offset the priority pr ogrammes that the Government is going to produce. So that is why it is important, Mr. Chairman, that we strive to get the revenues up, because if the revenue is not there you cannot slow down the expenditures that we are already talking about dealing with. With respect to the Stamp Duty Adjudication, I am not going to . . . it is the same item. I am not going to belabour the fact that you know you have not . . . you are not meeting the standard and, therefore, there is a concern. And we finish at what time, Mr. Chairman? Th e Chairman: Four twenty -nine. It is now 2:55 and this debate concludes at 4:29 pm. Ho n. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay. Anyway, I just want to say that I will just then go to my last item, which I think relates to the Interest on the Debt. I think that was it. Th e Chairman: That is page B -121, Head 58 — Interest on Debt. Ho n. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay, right. Okay, so if I then look at Head 58, B- 121 . . . Th e Chairman: We are debating Finance, this debate concludes at 4:29 pm; it is 2:55 pm. The Opposition Leader and Shadow Finance Minis ter has the floor. Ho n. Jeanne J. Atherden: I think the two observ ations that I wanted to make with respect to this . . . and the reason I wanted us to just discuss this was the fact that at the time we were looking . . . there was an indication that when we were the Government, when we were trying to be on the glide path to actually getting the deficit down to a level whereby there was an opportunity to reduce of the debt during this next fiscal year . . . and I know that the Government has increased the debt, but I just wondered if they can . . . they did something here which is quite interesting. And if you look at the fact that we had anticipated that Interest on the Debt was going to be $119.5 million . . . sorry, it was originally going to be $124 mil lion— Th e Chairman: Yes. Ho n. Jeanne J. Atherden: —but actually it has come in at $119.5 million, which — [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman—
The ChairmanChairmanContinue on. I am listening to you. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: One can forecast debt very easily. You do not have to wait until the bell closes. You know exactly what it is going to be. So, from that perspective, what I wanted the Minister to just clarify was . …
Continue on. I am listening to you. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: One can forecast debt very easily. You do not have to wait until the bell closes. You know exactly what it is going to be. So, from that perspective, what I wanted the Minister to just clarify was . . . part of this opportunity for the reduction of the debt, or the debt ceiling, was the fact that the Government did not actually spend the capital expenditure. It was originally forecast at $67 million, and it only spent $60 million. So there was an actual saving of $7 million by not spending this capital expenditure. But also, at the original . . . and if you go back to the Schedule that the Finance Minister produced, you can actually see that he listed all of the debt schedule, and there is some debt out there that is ex-pensive debt. And we have to understand that, wherever possible, you would like to reduce expensive debt. We have to understand that wherever poss ible you would like to reduce expensive debt. If there is something out there that all those others are like 5.7, 5.6, 5.93, 4.3, so most governments, if t hey had the opportunity, would try and either reduce the debt, be-cause it brings it down, or else you do some of the expensive debt. And I know that in the previous budget brief, when Minister Bob [Richards] had it, he had indicated that the intention was to reduce some of the debt during this year coming up, 2018/19. So it was clear; there was going to be debt reduction. So I do not know whether . . . I would just like to ask the Finance Minister as to whether he is still anticipating some debt reduction. And the reason I have to ask him is because the debt level that he is forecasting is going up from the $119.5 million up to the $124 [million], he is ind icating that he is going to borrow and another extra $90 million, so I do not know whether with that extra $90 million [being] borrowed, whether that has resulted in the increase in interest and whether anything was factored in there to reduce . . . to pay down some — Ho n. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Chai rman. Th e Chairman: What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is asking a question, and if she looks on the very next page it is answered right there in the Budget Book. I mean, if she is going to talk the head, then she should talk about the entire picture. It is right on the very next page, the same question she is asking. Geez!
The ChairmanChairmanContinue on. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So, Mr. Chairman, if there is the opportunity to talk about whether there is going to be any paying down of some of what we call the “expensive debt,” and, as I say, I know the Minister has indicated that he is going to …
Continue on.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So, Mr. Chairman, if there is the opportunity to talk about whether there is going to be any paying down of some of what we call the “expensive debt,” and, as I say, I know the Minister has indicated that he is going to be borrowing an extra $90 million. Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I will sit so there is an opportunity for some more comments [and] more questions a nd—
The ChairmanChairmanOkay. It is three o’clock. We are debating Finance, Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member from constituency . . . 22?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsThat is right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and good afternoon. Mr. Chairman, I have a number of topics that I would like to cover with the various heads under the Ministry of Finance, but I thought I would start on the issue of tax, Tax Commissioner, which is on B …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsI guess for the avoi dance of doubt, I should declare interest as a taxpayer. Hopefully all of us are in this particular place. I was sitting there thinking of . . . [being] reminded of the famous quote from [Russell] Long, one of the governors of Louisia na, who …
I guess for the avoi dance of doubt, I should declare interest as a taxpayer. Hopefully all of us are in this particular place. I was sitting there thinking of . . . [being] reminded of the famous quote from [Russell] Long, one of the governors of Louisia na, who said, “Don’t tax you, don’t tax me. Tax the [fellow] behind the tree.” We have had a fair amount of discussion this morning and also this afternoon about issues in the Tax Commissioner’s office and headcount. I have some memory on this because one of the many reviews of our tax system that was done was back in the mid- to late- 1990s. There was a law firm called King and Spalding. We also had at that point, when I the Minis ter of Finance, Inland Revenue. And I think there was some interest expressed, not a lot I hasten to add, in looking at value- added tax [VAT] and things like that. Because I think this issue of eff iciency in terms of, or effectiveness in terms of tax col-lection is important. And one of the things that stuck in my mind at the time was, there was a lady from Inland Revenue who was saying that with customs duty, which was the primary form of tax revenue in those days, it was actually greater than payroll tax, which was growing over the years. She said that the thing about customs was that it was a highly efficient form of taxation because, to put it simply, you do not get the goods until you pay the tax. So there were not a lot of compliance issues. It was simple. She said that when they looked in their own Inland Revenue department there were three or four times the number of people in the VAT area, than there were in the customs area, and that was because of this issue of compliance and effectiveness and eff iciency of collection. She also happened to note that with VAT the issue was that about 20 per cent of the UK taxpayers were paying 80 per cent of the VAT just because of compliance reasons. The tax commissioner there tended to go after the larger payers, which made sense. I was particularly interested in the issue, and it sort of came up last year as well, we talked about throwing people at collecting tax. But there is also this issue that I referred to of efficiency or effectiveness. It is interesting. I did a little bit of digging on it and the OECD, the Organisation for Economi c Co -operation and Development, in addition to being sort of a bit of a thorn in our side in respect to tax issues, also collects a lot of information. They have about 35 members, most of these are developed countries, and they have done a fair amount of w ork over the last few years on this issue of improving the effectiveness of tax collec-tion. The reason that is important is because if we could do more with less that means we do not necessarily need to hire a lot more people. We could be more efficient an d effective in terms of how we collect our tax. Now, obviously things have evolved a little bit since the mid- 1990s. Land tax has become more complicated with different bands. Payroll tax, partic ularly in the last couple of years with the former Government and this current one, is much more complex as a consequence of the bands and the offsets that have occurred. I will just say here a plea as an em-ployer. If there is a way for the Ministry of Finance to try and simplify some of these issues of tax reporti ng and tax collection on payroll tax, I think that would help both larger and smaller employers as well because it is very complex. I think one of the challenges is when a tax becomes complex you do not get the same efficiency or yield that you would if it is simple for people to understand and simple for people to comply with and to check on. So, just a plug there that if there is a way over the next few years that we can simplify this banding procedure in payroll tax, I think that would be very useful. I mentioned the OECD. I did that for a reason, because, interestingly enough, they have looked at their membership over the last, I will say, 10 or 15 years. What has obviously happened is there is an increasing automation of tax collection. The data that they are getting back suggests that actual tax evasion in 34 out of their 35 members has gone down appr eciably over the last 10 or 15 years. Actually, the cost 1478 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly of tax administration has also gone down in some 50 per cent of them as well. And I will get on to this issue of the return you get on staffing and also i ncreasing efficiency. But what really struck me, and I will bring it home to Bermuda right now, is that last year the Mi nister of Finance, Mr. Richards, commented that . . . and this is essentially on C -10. There is a line item for the E -Tax platform. And in 2017/18 the revised figure is $800,000. In 2018/19, the year we are talking about going forward, it is another $500,000. What struck me was the fact . . . and I have no problem with autom ation b ecause, generally, you get increased efficiency with automation. But what struck me last year was the Finance Minister’s comment. He said they have seen an increase from 25 per cent to 35 per cent, in terms of the number they are actually doing filing onli ne. Now, 25 per cent to 35 per cent is an i ncrease. But these are very, very low numbers when you look at what other countries are doing in terms of getting online filing. The reason online filing is so efficient, and you see it in other areas, and I can speak from personal experience in terms of things like paying claims for insurance and other things is it cuts down on the amount of handling that has to be done, the amount of paper and the rest of it. It is a much more efficient way to collect tax. Now, I say that because one of the examples that the OECD gave, which was sort of an interesting one, was Turkey. Now Turkey is not exactly a fully developed country, so they would not exactly be perhaps what we would consider on the same level that we are in terms of automation and things of that sort. What they found was that, for citizens, their e- filing went in five years from 30 per cent to 99 per cent. On the corporate side, it went from 72 per cent to 99 per cent. So when you compare even 70 per cent, or let’s say, the 99 per cent they reached, with our 25 per cent to 35 per cent we have got a long way to go in order to be more efficient and effective, in other words, to reduce the cost of the collection of tax. I think there is a huge amount of value added here. I would be interested to know what the current Minister feels. He did mention technology. The former Minister said the Office of the Tax Commissioner will maximise efficiency through technology. I am not sure we are there yet. I do not know whether the e- filing system is working as well as it should for us, but clearly, rather than throwing people at something, or I should say, using people to do this wherein they could be more diverted to compliance and following up r ecalcitrant payers, I think t his is an area that needs quite a bit of attention. I think the whole issue here is . . . and what the OECD also found was there is a huge return in terms of the amount of money that is actually invested in the tax office, particularly in the tax compliance area. They found that the return is often . . . can be as high as for every one dollar invested, you get $100 back. I think the average was for every dollar invested in tax collection, you get $30- some back. Clearly, an ything we can do in this area . . . as I said, it is not just a question of hiring and filling positions. That would be helpful. Anything we can do to increase the effectiv eness and the efficiency of the collection I think will go a long way, and may also help to reduce the cost of governm ent going forward in this area as well. While I am on the general issue of tax, the Honourable Member Minister of Finance did comment on this stamp duties issue. Again, this is not a new problem. The Minister of Finance last year commented very clearly that a lot of the effort of the tax commissioner, particularly the stamp duty section, has been occupied by the issue of the primary family homestead exemption, which was put in place in 2005. The Minister mentioned that this morning. Now, apparently, that has resulted in a huge number of applications to the stamp duty section. So they are spending, I will not say 100 per cent of their time, but a significant amount of their time dealing with these exemptions. The Minister last year said that there was going to be an amendment to the Stamp Duties Act 1976 to address this issue. I cannot say that I understand it completely, but my sense is that what is happening is that the application was opened up to living applicants who have flooded that office. So the adjudication which was done on other things like conveyances and things of that sort cannot be done to the degree that it needs to. The process, as I understand it, really only needs to be applied for upon the death of the primary owner. So I hope the Minister can comment a little bit more on this, but my understanding is, and I know this is not an exciting area, but my understanding is that some very simple amendments are required to the Stamp Duties Act in order to be able to reduce this flood of people coming in and making these applic ations when it is not really necessary anyway, and they could be spending their time moving through some of the other stamp duty adjudications, which probably will get them more money . . . will certainly get them more money and would be more effective. So, I do not know why it is still sitting out there as an issue. The former Minister said it was going to be done with a simple amendment. I think the Minister this morning said that this amendment will come. I do not know whether he has a time frame on it or not, but I think that this would certainly help in terms of this broader issue of collection. I am going to switch gears a little bit now, Mr. Chairman, and I would also like to talk about sort of another “e” administration t hing briefly. That is the eportal that was required in terms of the common r eporting standard and the country -by-country reporting. I think the Minister said that this was actually up and running as of June of 2017. I think, from what I recall last year, the country -by-country reporting had to be
Bermuda House of Assembly started by December of 2017, and the common r eporting standard, which is, I guess, the multilateral one as opposed to FATCA, which was simply the US reporting for US taxpayers where there are institutions in Bermuda that provide service to them. That was September of 2017. It seemed to cost a little bit more than I think was originally anticipated. I think D eloitte was involved with that. But the question I have is, I am very curious . . . could the Minister give us some indication of how many filings are actually going through the common reporting standard now? Because I think it is up and going. And the second question is, With country -bycountry reporting . . . and my memory is a little hazy on this, but I thin k that this really refers to corporations which are of a certain size which have to provide tax information on a reported basis to other countries where they may have some business. So, for exa mple, a large reinsurer here would have to indicate how much re venue, how much profit they are making, not only Bermuda but maybe in the US, in France, in the UK, wherever . . . you get the point, Mr. Chairman. So I am curious as to how many companies actually fall above that threshold and, therefore, would be caught and would need to report in Bermuda. Because I think it is sort of interesting to know that we are not only playing our part in terms of this country -by-country reporting, but I am curious to know how much is act ually involved there. I am going to move bac k to the issue of pensions now. I guess that is probably best dealt with u nder the Ministry of Finance Head 10, because that is where the million dollars has been provided in respect of the grant for this year, and I think that is —
The ChairmanChairmanIt is 3:15 [pm] and we are on Ministry of Finance. The Honourable Member from constituency [22] has the floor. You are going to . . .
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsUnder Pensions. It is the grant underneath that. Let me just start on a broader note here. The issue of pension reform has been talked about at least for a couple of years now. Some of the work of the Pension Commission goes back probably two or three years on …
Under Pensions. It is the grant underneath that. Let me just start on a broader note here. The issue of pension reform has been talked about at least for a couple of years now. Some of the work of the Pension Commission goes back probably two or three years on a number of different levels. In fact, I think the former Government . . . well, I know the former Government had approved amendments to the Pen-sion Act to essentially do a couple of things. One was to include non- Bermudians under the mandatory payment of a pension contribution. The legislation has not been done. The Minister this morning said that that was going to be done. It was in, I think, both parties’ platforms. But I think that is something which would certainly help. It would help on a number of le vels. Again, I will declare interest here as I am involved with a pension provider in Colonial.
Hon. Dr. E. Gra nt GibbonsYes. So the issue here is other countries that would be comparable. The Caymans have done this for a number of years. The interesting thing is the fact that nonBermudians did not have to contribute to a pension plan has often been cited as one reason that (I will say) …
Yes. So the issue here is other countries that would be comparable. The Caymans have done this for a number of years. The interesting thing is the fact that nonBermudians did not have to contribute to a pension plan has often been cited as one reason that (I will say) certain employers preferred them because there was less cost of the matching employee/employer portion as well. I would suspect that certainly most of the employers in international business do provide a matc hing grant to their [employees]. It is part of the broader compensation package. In this day and age if you are a fairly sophisticated employer you provide a pension contribution no matter whether the person is Bermudian or non- Bermudian, otherwise you are not compet itive, t o be perfectly honest. But I think it would help, and certainly I agreed with it, I think many others did as well, to put everybody on the same level playing field, because not only will it provide more business here (and I declared interest), where some of that money will actually stay in Bermuda, more business for local pension providers and the services that come with that. But also I think it will just be seen as an i ssue of fairness by most people. One of the things I will say, and I am sure the Minister of Finance is thinking about this, is the issue of how you cash out is particularly important. Because in the Caymans the old system used to be that if you were a non- Caymanian, in other words, on a work permit there, basically, you could cash out when you left. And a lot of people who had been there for quite a few years . . . Cayman has a huge expat population, Mr. Chairman, as you probably know. A lot of people would cash out immediately and, as a consequence, I guess the point behind pensions, whic h is saving money for your retirement, was a little bit lost in those perspectives . But those were expats, you know, the Caymanian Government did not really care. They have changed that now. And as a consequence what has happened is the law changed back i n I think December or January of this . . . December of 2017, or January 2018. But there was a 1480 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly huge flood of money going out as expats wanted to cash out and actually left their jobs so they could cash out before they actually had to essentially retain that money in some sort of a pension scheme going forward. I say that, not to get into the nitty -gritty of it, but just to say that it is important to think through how you deal with some of these issues of termination for employees who are not Bermudian. Here you cannot cash out once you are vested. You are in it; and that is the way it should be. Because, after all, what a pe nsion is really for is to save money for your retirement. One of the other issues that was certainly looked at in terms of the pensio n legislation, as I r ecall, was the issue of a per capita fee. I cannot r emember whether it was $25 or $35, or what it was, but in essence it would be adding an additional fee on to each of the members. And I think there were quite a few of them, if I reme mber correctly. I think the Honourable Member said this morning . . . oh, yes. There were 21,457 members. So the question I have for the Minister of F inance is, If this fee will proceed under the current Government, which would be paid directly to the Pe nsion Commission, will it eliminate the need for Government to subsidise the Pension Commission by the $1 million which is currently being paid now? It seems to me that this fee is going to add up pretty quickly and could well exceed the $1 million. I have not done the math on the back of an envelope, but it would be a fair amount of money. The other question that was raised, at least peripherally this morning by the Honourable Minister of Finance, was the issue of retirement age. I think that is something, Mr. Chairman, as you know, that has been kicked around in this House for many, many years. My sense is that employers deal with it in a number of different ways. A lot of people have pretty strict, You retire at 65. The Government certainly does. My former Permanent Secretary had to leave, literally, on the day that his birthday came up. So it is cut and dried. It seems to me that this is something which we are all grappling with now. With an ageing popul ation, with a reduced number of younger people coming on board, particularly Bermudians, unless we can find them elsewhere, employers are going to have more and more difficulty finding younger people to fill these jobs. Now I know that this has not been a problem for the last few years. But I think going forward this issue of an ageing workforce is a very key one. So I think it is high time that this issue of retirement age, particularly in the civil service, gets looked at again because in my experience Government lost quite a few very experienced people at the more senior end. Now, obviously, they are more expensive, so from the perspective of the Ministry of Finance maybe it is not a bad thing to have them retire when you bring in younger people at the bottom, who are less expensive and therefore the whole salary package goes down. But this issue of being able to find people, particularly with an ageing population and fewer pe ople coming in, it makes an awful lot of sense, as other Governments have done, to look at this issue of r etirement age, particularly in Government. I will just say from a private sector perspective we had . . . I think at one point we had a 90- year old who was working on our switchboard a number of years ago. We have got a lot of people who are over 65 who are working. And part of t he reason for that is because they are really effective. They have got, I will say, in some cases, a lifetime of experience and they bring a lot to it in terms of maturity and the rest of it. That is not to say that you do not want to continue to bring in younger people at the bottom, but I think the private sector is probably quite a ways ahead of Government in terms of how they deal with this particular issue. Obviously it has spin- off effects in terms of medical insurance and things of that sort. Nevert heless, I would simply say this is an issue that needs to be looked at. I think Government needs to look very carefully at raising the retirement age and being able to retain some of those people that obviously do a very good job. The last issue under pens ions that I wanted to ask some questions about and perhaps comment on as well is the Minister’s statistics this morning in terms of the number of people who are actually members, and as I said, he mentioned 21,450- something. There are about 3,000 employer plans. It has been almost . . . well, a couple of months to go still, but it has been almost 20 years since the [National Pension Scheme] (Occupational Pension) Act was brought in. It was in the fall of 1998. Mr. Chairman, you will remember that I was the Minister of Finance, and I brought it in at that particular time. It is not to take credit for it, because a lot of people had worked in the Ministry of Finance on that for a number of years. David Saul was quite a driving force in terms of essentially rec ognising that the old social insurance, the contributory pension plan, was simply not providing enough to retirees when they actually retired. It was pretty clear. I think interesting at the time, one of the really good examples was Chile had put in quite an advanced programme and that was looked at, and some others were looked at as well. But the whole point was that for the broader population there needed to be a way for them to save for themselves and not just rely on social insurance, which did provide a pension but certainly not anywhere near a majority of the amount that one would need to retire and live on properly. So that occupational pension scheme was brought in 1998. It is now 20 years. At the time, and I cannot remember precisely, but at the t ime . . . maybe the Junior Minister will r emember, Mr. Furbert. But at the time the idea was that
Bermuda House of Assembly the occupational pension scheme, after it had been in place for a while, was going to be able to provide something on the order of 60 per cent to 70 per cent of what the salary was for somebody when they act ually retired. But they would have to be in the plan for a while for that money to build up because the occupational plan means you have got a self -retirement plan. You are putting money in yourself. You are earning a return on that because, hopefully, it is invested proper ly and there are a lot of plans out there that obviously allow you different types of investment schemes depending on your age and how long. So the point that I am making here is, we are 20 years on. I think it is really a good time now to r eview how successful that occupational pension scheme has been, particularly [for] people who have been there since the beginning of that, to see how much they are likely to have. We have had a couple of downturns in the market, as the Honourable Member was chirping a few minutes ago. How effective has that been? What is that likely to do? The Minister this morning commented on looking at contribution rates. Mr. Chairman, you and I both know that the rat es for the Members’ plan for the House has been raised to, I think, 12.5 per cent by both the employer (which is Government) and the Members themselves. It is now five and five with the occupational pension scheme. Is that enough? Is that appropriate in th is day and age? What do we need to do to make sure that people have sufficient provision in their own retirement schemes so they do not have to rely on the government contributory pension scheme or social insurance, as it is commonly said.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsThe Harry Viera scheme. Yes. You know, I do not want to detract from it. It does what it was intended to do, which is a suppl ement to somebody’s retirement plan. But if you do not have another retirement plan, if you are really an employee that was there …
The Harry Viera scheme. Yes. You know, I do not want to detract from it. It does what it was intended to do, which is a suppl ement to somebody’s retirement plan. But if you do not have another retirement plan, if you are really an employee that was there a long time ago, have been r etired for 15 or 20 years, and you really did not have a chance to contribute toward the occupational, then . . . I was about t o use another word, but I would say you are toast because you have to depend on the contri butory pension plan which is obviously not going to deliver what it needs to deliver. So, according to the Minister this morning, there are some $3.8 billion in assets in those occupational schemes spread across those 3,000 employee plans, the 21,000- plus members. I think it would be very interesting now, particularly with the Pension Commission, to have a look. Get an actuary involved if they have not already, and tr y and understand where we stand, particularly those who have been in this plan for some time. These days you do not have any choice, you have got to be in it. And, Mr. Chai rman, that is a good thing. That was certainly one of the issues that I wanted to as k. It is not a new co ncept, but I think it is one that needs to be considered. There is another programme which the new Government has basically signed on to. That is on [page] C -4 in the Capital section. That is the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund. My honour able colleague, Jeanne Atherden, raised a number of questions about it. You will see there, Mr. Chairman, there was a $500,000 grant in the current year, which is 2017/18. And then there is another $500,000 projected for 2018/19. So we are talking about, i n very round numbers, $1 mi llion. And that is Government’s part of the carrying charges, or the administration fees that the fund r equired in order to be able to proceed. Now, I am not going to belabour this point. My former honourable colleague, Mr. Richards, did not feel that he wanted to pay that amount of money, that the thing ought to be able to essentially proceed on its own basis. But the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund felt that they were not prepared to do it on that basis. So the current Government has decided to proceed. I am not saying that is either a good thing or a bad thing. I think we looked at it very carefully. The question I have, and this was an issue raised by the Minister when he read his brief this morning. Government has certain priori ties which the fund will be directed to look at. The Minister did not elaborate on what those priorities were, and I would be very interested to know, when the Minister gets a chance to answer questions, what he sees as those priorities that the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund should be prepared to invest in. One of the issues of any fund that has a r eturn strategy is that they need to be able to get out at a certain time. So it is one thing to put, I will just say, $20 million in at the front end on this or that infrastructure project, the question is, how do they get their money out on the tail end, unless Government buys them out or somebody else does? That has always been the issue with private equity or venture capital funds. You need to have a liquidity ex it, a liquidity strategy, an exit strategy at some point. So that is one of the issues. But I am more interested (not to get into the nitty-gritty) to get a sense of where the Government sees its priorities. And I hope one of those priorities will be senio r living, because this is an area which I think Bermuda is way behind the curve on. There are a number of facilities out there. They struggle and seniors and families struggle with cost with these faci lities. Some of the churches do a very nice job, like t he AME church. But there is this whole issue with an ageing population (which is a bit of a cliché now, but 1482 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly certainly very true) of how do we deal with seniors and how do we deal with them in a way that is appropr iate? And where are we now, today? Most of the countries, I think particularly in the United States, deal with it on a number of different levels. They have residential living, they have assisted living, and they have a number of other structures. If you have had an elderly parent, and a number of us have had in- laws or whatever who are in the United States, you will know that they handle it in a much more effective way. Bermuda needs to do a much bet-ter job in terms of how we deal with senior residential living. It needs to be cost -effective, and it needs to be able to make sense. So a question on priority is there. A couple of other questions and then I will —
[Inaudible interjection]
The ChairmanChairmanI just want to say [that] we are on F inance and there is about 55 minutes left for this debate.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsOkay. I wish to assure you that I will not take the 55 minutes. A couple of other questions, if I may. The Mi nister said this morning that the consultants for the EU in the UK have now been moved to the Cabinet O ffice. I could n ot …
Okay. I wish to assure you that I will not take the 55 minutes. A couple of other questions, if I may. The Mi nister said this morning that the consultants for the EU in the UK have now been moved to the Cabinet O ffice. I could n ot pick it out of Head 10, but I was cur ious if the Minister could tell us how much money was actually shifted from Ministry of Finance down to the Cabinet Office for that? Maybe there is a simple a nswer to that. Let’s see . . . I think . . . let me just check here. Yes, the other question I have was on page B - 100. The Minister can sort of mop these up at the end. But under Professional Services, there is $980,000 which is budgeted for the 2018/19 year. Could the Honourable Member tell us exactly which consultants are in that $980,000? That would be useful to know. Mr. Chairman, those were really the issues that I wanted to raise. I appreciate the opportunity to contribute. Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Honourable Member. We are on Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58 coming under the Ministry of Finance. Does any other Member care to speak to this . . . No other Member? We will recognise the Mi nister of Finance. [Pause]
The ChairmanChairmanAnd this debate will go until 4:29, on Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58, under the Ministry of F inance. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I think it is interesting that the Opposition spoke for longer than the Government did on this particular matter. I …
And this debate will go until 4:29, on Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58, under the Ministry of F inance.
Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I think it is interesting that the Opposition spoke for longer than the Government did on this particular matter. I have pages and pages and pages and pages of questions and answers which I will attempt to give. I thought I would have addressed those questions by giving the Honourable Opposition Leader her copy of my brief, of which she proceeded to then quiz me on the text inside of there. So that is lesson learned. Lesson learned none the less. I will try to read through the questions as best that I can. I would encourage the Opposition Leader to please feel free to ask for clarification during this, just so that we do not have to wait and go back and write and go back and write and go back on it. That is not necessary. Regarding the questions, I think the first question was regarding the assistant financial secretary of policy. He retired. I believe that is the honourable former Attorney General’s brother. He retired at the end of the year. The revised employee count was changed, but not the dollar amount. And some of this funding was used to fund the salary uplift. This post was funded, again. It is going to be examined whether or not we are going to use that post, whether or not we are going to convert it to a post that may be used by the Treaty Unit as they are having additional demands and having trouble keeping up with the numerous treaty requests which come in on a daily basis. Just for the knowledge of Honourable Members in the House and also those who may be listen-ing, we have a policy inside this Government where we do not create positions unless we destroy one somewhere else. So that is where we are continuing to go and that is the process of which we will go f orth with. Regarding the National Anti -Money Laundering Committee, I think there were three posts. They are not new posts. They were just transferred from Legal Affairs. Regarding the travel budget, the travel budget, the National Anti -Money Laundering C ommi ttee recorded their travel in the training vote as it was travel related to training. I think there was a question on B -100 about repairs and maintenance and a question about the $290,000 that was used for the portal and then versus capital amount. Our repairs and maintenance, the $290,000, this is for the ongoing maintenance of the new portal system. There is money in capital acquis itions for this. So there is the ending of capital acquis itions and then there is the ongoing cost for the sup-port of the portal system. So it is with the assumption that this amount will be repeated year and year and year. [It is] part of the expenses of complying with these global obligations. There was a question as to the extra $57,000, I think, on B -100 on Grants and Contributions. That is for NAMLC and that is the FATF and CFATF annual contribution which is now in the Ministry of Finance, whereas it was somewhere else before.
Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: It just did not show up in the Book, that was why . . .
Hon. E. Da vid Burt: No problem. No problem. Just happy to answer the questions. So that was what the increase in that Grant and Contribution number was there, part of it. And, of course, the other $25,000 of it was to the increase of the Pension Commission. Regard ing page B -100, the question regar ding the BNTB guarantee fee. That is without question an error. The BNTB guarantee has been fulfilled. The $188,000 in there, it should list for the Morgan’s Point guarantee as I had stated inside of my Statement. So the approved estimates will reflect a new line item so that the BNTB guarantee fee will be carried out and a then a new item will be there for the Morgan’s Point guarantee. So that is without question an error. There was a question on B -102 regarding Performa nce Measures. The question as to the GDP lowering, et cetera. These pages were prepared prior to the National Economic Report being printed and their vision of the GDP figures. However, these will be reflected correctly in the updated, on the approved estimates as opposed to what is here in the estimates themselves. I think there was a question about the debt to revenue ratios and the note I have here is that all rat ios are finalised when the final numbers are given. So they do change, as you would know, t hat final revised number is one thing and then the final numbers comes out and are a different thing, after supplementaries and accounts are reconciled. But there is a ti ming difference between the performing page and the final budget numbers.
Hon. Jeann e J. Atherden: I just did not —
Hon. E. David Burt: You can clarify. Okay. I think I answered the question about the tree portal already and the amount for current versus the amount for capital. A reminder that there is an add itional capital allocation of 95 to capitalise the asset, but the $290,000 is for ongoing work and also additional training associated with that. Regarding professional services, the breakdown was provided inside of the brief, of which you were given, for all the professional services that were there; however, I am happy to make that known for all Members listening as the Honourable Member for constituency 22, if, as rumour would have it, this is his last Budget Debate, so I want to make sure that I give him as much time as possible.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberOoh! Hon. E. David Burt: Well, you know. They said he is retiring, stepping down.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsIn your dreams. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, in your dreams! Oh, you just crushed someone’s poor heart there. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: From constituency 22. I am quite sure that the former Chairman of the Bermuda Ec onomic Development Corporation was looking forward to sitting inside of your …
In your dreams. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, in your dreams! Oh, you just crushed someone’s poor heart there. [Laughter]
Hon. E. David Burt: From constituency 22. I am quite sure that the former Chairman of the Bermuda Ec onomic Development Corporation was looking forward to sitting inside of your chair. That much being said, the details for the $980,000 regarding consultants are under Economic and Financial Intelligence: $10,000 for consultant economic project work; $109,500 for ratings agencies; under treaty management legal consultancies for tre aty management, $140,000; OECD initiatives, $25,000; under the Regulatory Unit, $40,000 assigned for Sp ecial Project Work; under Policy Planning Administr ation EU Strategy, Mr. Alastair Sutton, $230,000 are budgeted; special projects and BPAB (that is Berm uda Professional Accountants Board, I believe) as mentioned in my brief, $194,000; Fisc al Responsibility Panel is $80,000; under Fiscal Planning and Control, other projects are listed as $25,000; and under N ational Anti -Money Laundering Committee, $125,000. That is the full breakdown of the $980,000 for professional services, which you have copy in the brief which was provided to you, Madam Opposition Leader. I think there was a question about whether supplementaries were included in the revised numbers. The answer is, yes, supplementaries were i ncluded in the revised numbers and the revis ed est imates were input by departments. It was a question that I had as well, because I saw that, you know, these supplementary estimates of which we approved were about $13 million. And, of course, the expended expenditure was less. And that was due to as I mentioned inside of my brief, the fact that there are certain comments in the Ministry of Finance that the current Minister of Finance may at some point in time be even more frugal than the former. So in that particular case we are very judicious. In the exact same way there are things that have to come across our desks. I examine every si ngle virement that comes. And, of course, as Members would know, people who served previously in this p osition, like the Honourable Member from constitue ncy 22, around January, February, and March vir ements are flying inside of your office left, right, and centre, because people are looking to spend money. Well, unless it is considered urgent, we do not do it and we redirect that money toward priorities. So there is di fferent money that is going to be directed toward priorities for getting some people to get some work done. There are going to be some things that are going to be diverted to training, so the Minister for Education and Workforce Development 1484 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly can start and i mplement training programmes that did not exist before. And those are the type of things which we are looking at, training and apprentice pr ogrammes. Those are the types of things of which we do. So, of course, everyone’s needs are urgent but the Government makes sure that the money that we spend reflects our priorities. There was a question in regard to, I would say it was Head 56 on Interest, from the Honourable O pposition Leader. As was stated in the brief, 2017/18 came below budget on interest, coming in at 119.5 and the . . . even though the original budget for last year was 124, we are back at 124 again this year because of the additional monies of course which will have to be uplifted when we fully draw down the But-terfield loan facility, in additio n to additional borrowing which may be needed to meet our obligations next year. But of course we can play a little fancy and decide when you are going to pay certain things to reduce the amount of interest of which you have. That is the type of financial management which is done, of course, by Treasury and the Accountant General in conjunction with Economic and Financial Intelligence and the Financial Secretary who has been at this for about eight years now. Right? Regarding pensions, I think there was a question of whether or not public officers can draw down on their pensions. We did amend the Public Service Superannuation Fund so they can draw down on their pensions as well. So it is not just people with private pensions but also public officers who have the same hardships under the Public Service Superannuation Fund. You cannot of course withdraw from the Contributory Pension Fund because that is a different type of arrangement, but you can under the Public Service Superannuation Fund. So public offic ers can do that.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Mr. Chairman. Just a point of clarification at this time.
The ChairmanChairmanPoint of clarification? POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes. I think what . . . I did know that from the Superannu ation you could draw down, but it was the question about the, what I call, the . . . the social insurance. And the reason I …
Point of clarification?
POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes. I think what . . . I did know that from the Superannu ation you could draw down, but it was the question about the, what I call, the . . . the social insurance. And the reason I say that is because most of the ordinary people out there, the only thing they have is social insurance. And when they are struggling, that is where they go and look. And because they are aware that other people can draw down in their private capacities they just are rai sing the question as to, Why can’t they do it?
The ChairmanChairmanContinue on. We are on Finance. This debate concludes a t 4:29. We also have a new Page in the House. (Just looking to see if I see him.) His name is Yassine Chentouf from . . . yes, welcome. Glad to have you here from BHS. [Desk thumping] Hon. …
Continue on. We are on Finance. This debate concludes a t 4:29. We also have a new Page in the House. (Just looking to see if I see him.) His name is Yassine Chentouf from . . . yes, welcome. Glad to have you here from BHS. [Desk thumping]
Hon. E. David Burt: Okay. Thank you for the clarific ation from the O pposition Leader. There is no drawdown from Contributory Pension Fund because it is not that type of fund. There are not individual ac-counts or things like that or amounts that are pledged, and so from that particular arrangement the only r ecourse, unfortunately, for those persons is the D epartment of Financial Assistance. And that is unfort unate. However, as you would note, that the value of private pensions in the total community and it should because it is a larger pie. But, I mean, we are up to about $3.2 billion now, so I think that going forward in the future years we will see less pressure on Financial Assistance from seniors as more and more persons will have access to their private pensions upon retir ement. There is a question about the Bermuda I nfrastructure Fund. I will get to that a little bit later when I address the questions because I think that the Member from constituency 22, the Honourable Member Gibbons, had asked the question as well. Also, there were questions about raising the retirem ent age, which was mentioned there. I have nothing further outside of what was said inside the brief and then what was stated inside of our platform. It is an issue that we are examining but, unlike others, we will not kick the can down the road and we wil l deal with the issue because the issue has to be dealt with. Moving on to Head 12 regarding custom duty. There were questions regarding the post office duty. We can just take a concerted estimate of the Financial Secretary who has been through this process a few times. He is very conservative when he comes to estimating revenue. As a former Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee, Madam Opposition Leader, I remember the Public Accounts Committee . . . one of our reports that we put out in the last Parli ament stated the challenge was with issuing budget figures which are not realistic. So we are going to make sure that the budget figures are realistic and the Financial Secretary keeps us in very close line in saying that these are numbers which we can use to make sure that we get our numbers correct. Just so we are aware, I mean, there is this whole conversation about the America’s Cup, of course, and that the America’s Cup is responsible for this great duty uplift and everything else. There are two thin gs. The first thing of course is that we have to remember, . . . well, there are two things. The first thing is that a lot of the things that came in from the America’s Cup were duty free. So those things would
Bermuda House of Assembly not be reflected there. But the additional th ing is that we also have to remember that rates were increased. So it is not just that rates were increased last year, so there were a lot of custom duty rates that went up which can also reflect part of the increase. The Government is comfortable, or the Financial Secretary is comfortable with the budget projections. We do regular monitoring and reporting of those items. We do quarterly reporting and we will report those figures and make any type of adjustments if necessary. But we are confident in the it ems of which we did put forward. With the office of the Tax Commissioner . . . oh boy. I think there was a question [as to] why the betting tax figures were reduced, or the take from the betting tax was reduced. I think the answer to that is that one of t he big shops closed in 2017/18. They closed for renovation and they will be reopening again. So that is the reason for the difference. There is a question, Madam Opposition Leader, would like to clarify your question regarding voluntary land conveyancing? Was that you? Could you clarify, please?
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry. What I was . . . if I can just find it for a moment. [Pause]
The ChairmanChairmanOpposition Leader? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I want to get the . . . it was the land tax. I just want to get the page. It was . . . ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN HOUSE VISITOR
The ChairmanChairmanWhile we are waiting, I just want to acknowledge former Senator Llewellyn Peniston in the Gallery. And current Senator, [Justin] Mathias in the Chamber. [Desk thumping] [Continuation of Committee of Supply ] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is . . . I am on page B-115, and there were two …
While we are waiting, I just want to acknowledge former Senator Llewellyn Peniston in the Gallery. And current Senator, [Justin] Mathias in the Chamber.
[Desk thumping] [Continuation of Committee of Supply ] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is . . . I am on page B-115, and there were two elements. One was the voluntary land conveyance, which is 8075, where we had . . . the actual was 275. The original was 500,000 and th en the revised is now going to be 750. And then we are talking about, for next year, dropping back down to 500,000. And what I asked was, because I know that there is an issue from the conveyancing attorneys in terms of getting it out, getting the values sorted out and being able to process, I was just wondering whether the Finance Department knew what the actual results were through to December. B ecause if you have them to December then you get a pretty good assurance that 750 which was being r evised upwar d is actually going to result . . . what I did not want us to find out is that it is going to move again, because what is in the pipeline does not actually come out because the department does not get a chance to process all the—
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Well, I am assuming that it is estimated to go down, because there is a lot in the pipeline that they will push through and then afterward you will be back to the norm. But if the Minister answers, then we will not have to assume.
Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Opposition Leader. I was just saying that. I will happy to answer the question. This is just based on the fact that these numbers are hard to predict. So we get the revised numbers in, but we do not like to be over excited with our estimates. So we are going to do work to clear some type of backlog, certainly, and to try to make this pr ocess more efficient. But the reason why it is back to 500 is because it is hard to predict, and so that is just a number that is s et. So that is what the Financial Secretary is using in that particular instance. That is the answer; it is hard to predict. So that is the reason why. We do not . . . I would assume that the reason why the revised estimate is up to 750 is because they have taken into account the rate that has happened thus far when they submitted the revised figures in January. So that would be part of the reason why that figure is 750 as opposed to the original budget of 500.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: That is why —
The ChairmanChairmanLet the Honourable [Minister] yield first. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Member. Will you — Hon. E. David Burt: Are you clarifying? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, I am clarifying. Hon. E. David Burt: I will yield. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: That was why my question was, …
Let the Honourable [Minister] yield first.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Member. Will you — Hon. E. David Burt: Are you clarifying?
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, I am clarifying.
Hon. E. David Burt: I will yield.
POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: That was why my question was, do we know the actual results to December because if we know by December that we are up to 600 or whatever else, then we know that 750 is reasonable. And I just wonder whether if the Financial Secr etary k new that answer.
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Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Continue on, Honourable Finance Minister. Premier.
Hon. E. David Burt: To answer the Honourable O pposition Leader’s question, up until December 31st, 2017, the number is $553,053 collected, thus far. All right. Moving forw ard. We addressed betting tax. Line item 8051, there was a question about airport departure tax. What I have is that these were receipts received after the year end that clearly have to be recorded in 2017/18. We cannot record them in another year if they are received. So that is the reason why they are there. It is likely because departure tax is collected by airlines and then has to be remitted back to the country, so that is probably the reason why that line item is showing there. Kind of strange, but th at is why it is there. You know, you are an accountant. Right? Honourable Opposition Leader? Yes. You have all these accounting rules and laws, gaps, and otherwise. That is the reason why it is there. Regarding 8033, hotel occupancy tax. It is a conservative estimate, keeping in mind that there are hotels that still have concessions. So we are being conservative. We are being conservative all throughout the budget. Regarding B . . . I have nothing for performance measures there. Interest on debt . . . I am not entirely certain of the full question that was asked on B-121, but the response that I have is that . . . I think I answered it before. Part of reason why the interest expense was lower was that we did not have to bor-row the full $135 million. So w e saved on interest there. And of course we borrowed it at the absolute last minute due to treaty management and trying to . . . that is the reason why we were able to beat the estimates because we were very judicious in making sure we managed these things in the best way poss ible. Now I will move on to the comments from the former Minister of Finance. A few Ministers of F inance’s ago. His picture is on the wall in the Ministry of Finance. The Honourable Member for constitue ncy 22. Yes, that is you. [Inau dible interjections]
The ChairmanChairmanHonourable Premier, we do have 30 minutes remaining for this debate. Hon. E. David Burt: Would you like me to talk for the next 30? [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Are you just reminding me? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Pardon me? The Chairman: It is your prerogative. Hon. …
Honourable Premier, we do have 30 minutes remaining for this debate. Hon. E. David Burt: Would you like me to talk for the next 30? [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Are you just reminding me? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Pardon me? The Chairman: It is your prerogative. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay. Thank you very much. I hear the Honourable Edmund Graham Grant Gibbons telling me I did a good job before so . . . E.G.G.G. So I will do that. I am very sorry that he is now confirmed that the rumours are not true. Because the wildfire was that this was his last Budget Debate. He would be stepping down to make way for new blood inside the One Bermuda Alliance.
[Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Hon. E. David Burt: Well, the new blood is here. [Laughter]
The ChairmanChairmanPremier, what line item are you on? Hon. E. David Burt: We are on line item . . . I said we are on page B -113, according to the honourable former Attorney General, I think that we ar e on the line item that is discussing mandatory retirement ages. …
Premier, what line item are you on?
Hon. E. David Burt: We are on line item . . . I said we are on page B -113, according to the honourable former Attorney General, I think that we ar e on the line item that is discussing mandatory retirement ages. That is a possibility. [Laughter]
Hon. E. David Burt: However, there were questions in regard to the Office of the Tax Commissioner on page B -113. I think there was a question about e- filing and the amount of persons that are doing e- filing and those figures are slowly but certainly, slowly improving. As can be seen in the performance measures, we are up to payroll at 50 per cent and land up to 45 per cent. Clearly we want to make that high er and it is our intent to do that. There are a number of IT initiatives that are going on inside the Government and it would be noted that this is a priority for this administration. And we are making sure however that these items are not done in isolation, that they are done with a collective vision going forward, so we are not building multiple systems around the place which do not talk to each other. There was a question regarding the Pension Commission. There was a question about the fee. We will sa y that we will . . . yes, so we will produce the grant when the fee is introduced for the Pension Commission itself.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsMr. Chairman, if I may, just a point of clarification. Hon. E. David Burt: I will yield.
The ChairmanChairmanHonourable Member. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. I guess the question was, will the fee that is going to be charged on a per capita basis for me mbers in the schemes . . . will that essentially eliminate the need …
Honourable Member.
POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. I guess the question was, will the fee that is going to be charged on a per capita basis for me mbers in the schemes . . . will that essentially eliminate the need to subsidise t he Pension Commission? That was really the question. Thanks.
Hon. E. David Burt: I guess I was not clear enough in my answer. Yes, that is the intent. The intent . . . I do not know if it will be elim inated. It will certainly reduce. And depending on where it is set, it may eliminate. But of course we will deal with that when that measure comes to Parli ament. There may be some more questions, and I will certainly yield, time or leave time after, but let me go to general comments, if I may, Mr. Chairman, because I will leave it on the scene here in the Office of the Tax Commissioner, on page B -113, because Honourable Member for constituency 2 [sic], the Honourable Member Gibbons, spoke about the need to simplify.
The ChairmanChairmanConstituency 22. Hon. E. D avid Burt: Constituency 22, sorry. Honourable Member from constituency 22, who talked about the need to simplify taxes. I just thought it was funny because it is almost as though if they break it and then tell us that we need to fix it. Now, …
Constituency 22.
Hon. E. D avid Burt: Constituency 22, sorry. Honourable Member from constituency 22, who talked about the need to simplify taxes. I just thought it was funny because it is almost as though if they break it and then tell us that we need to fix it. Now, I recognise t hat the former Government wanted to make the tax system more progressive, and they certainly did make it more progressive, and it b ecame progressively more difficult to file. So what happened [was] that this Government said, You know what we are going to d o? We are going to make it easier for people to file these taxes. And that is the reason why we are funding a module for the most commonly used accounting software for small and medium sized businesses, QuickBooks, which we will fund ourselves which will e nable small business ow ners to go ahead and automatically file their taxes in a more efficient manner and that will increase compl iance. Now that , of course, is something that they could have done, Mr. Chairman, but they did not. That is something that we are doing. I do find it interesting that they say that we need to simplify the tax system when it was them who made it infinitely times more complex. But, no pro blem. We are fixing it. In addition to that, as the Honourable Oppos ition Leader knows, she i s on the Tax Reform Co mmission. One of things that we want to do is to make things more simple so that we can increase the level of compliance. So the Honourable Member for constituency 22 is right. If a tax system is simpler, more people will pay. We are going to make it simpler so more people will pay and we are also going to make it easier for people to pay. Again, it is this whole thing about kicking the can down the road. There was another statement which was made by the Honourable Member Grant Gibbons . He talked about the primary family hom estead, and said that it has been outstanding for a long time. And it was something that was discussed by the former Minister. Well, yes, Mr. Chairman, it was di scussed by the former Minister —but it was not fixed. So we are going to fix the issue to make sure that the process of which we put in place is executed. We do not want to hold back this issue. We recognise that that office, that particular unit, stamp duties, is under a lot of stress inside the Office of Tax Commissioner, but unlike the former Government i nstead of just talking about the problems, just like they did on a lot of issues, we are actually going to fix the problems of which we found. But again, Mr. Chairman, we hear these whole issues about . . . These things have been around for a long time. So we heard that when it comes to simplifying taxes. We heard that when it came to the issue with the primary family homestead and then we heard that about the issue when it came to the retirement age, as wel l. Well if there is an ana logy I can put, Mr. Chairman, I would say that that side seems to be very good at kicking the can down the road. And we are going to do a very good job of kic king the ball into the net. They will kick, and we will score.
[Inaudible interjections]
Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, boy! Mr. Chairman, the Members behind me are getting very personal right now. Especially the Honourable Member from consti tuency 29.
[Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: That much being said, Mr. Chairman . . . I ha ve a guilty conscience, like some Members over there. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Hon. E. David Burt: That much being said, Mr. Chairman, there are a couple of things that the Hon-ourable Member mentioned. He spoke about the increase in the retirement age. This is something that was inside of our platform. This is something that we said we will look at. This is something that we will address. I can assure Honourable Members that it is something that we will address in the next Throne Speech. We are coming up with a plan, a strategy, f inalising the ageing strategy, and we are going to deal with those particular matters. So as I said, instead of talking we will act! The people of this country are tired of hearing talking; they want to see more action. So 1488 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly you do not hear a lot from me, Mr. Chairman, but what you do see are things that are moving and progres sing inside of the Government. But that is a perfect example which takes us to another thing that was not done by the former Government, but was done by this one, and that is the Bermuda Infrastructure Fund and the excuses they make for the reasons why it was not done. Well, it is very simple, Mr. Chairman, you have to have skin in the game. And it would not surprise the people who are international investment ad-visors, Fortress, that, having interacted with the former Government, where at points in time the former Government would make a commitment and then change its mind, or something else . . . they wanted to make sure that the Government of Bermuda had skin in the game. And that was the reason why they r equired us to fund a minimum fee for the management fee. And once the funds are invested, that means that that fee would no longer need to be paid. So that is what we are doing. We are moving forward with it be-cause we want to ensure that there are additional a venues for economic investment inside of the Island. Now the Honourable Member asked, What are our priorities? Well, I can tell you that one of the main priorities is infrastructure. That is the reason why, even after there is all this noise being made I think in the Budget Reply and a question of the status, well, guess what? The investment managers are meeting with the Minister of Public Works today! T oday! So these items are progress ing. Infrastructure is the priority. And if we talk about infrastructure I would say it is infrastructure in our city areas, specif ically dealing with water and sewage and otherwise. So those are things which are priorities. Because one of the things of which we have realised for a while is that we do not treat our sewage very well. We do put it out into the water, whether it be at the East End of the Island, or here, and we are going to look and to make sure that we can address those particular issues because those are issues that we think are very i mportant to be met. And, of course, with any type of investment it has to have a return. But there are already customers for sewage and there are customers for water and there can be customers for more things as we look to develop the city. So at the same point in time that we look at relaxing height restrictions in the Economic Empowerment Zone, we are going to need to make sure that if we are going to have additional residence in higher buildings, that we have the infrastructure to suit that. And part of that infrastructure will certainly need to make sure that we have adequate sewage facilities, adequate water facilities, and making sure that we treat that sewage and make sure that the w ater can be supplied. S o those are the types of things of which we will be looking at. But I am not going to speak too much on the infrastructure fund, as infr a-structure falls under the responsibility for the Minister of Public Works. But when it comes to a question of prioriti es, those are where are priorities are and I think they are very clear for all to see. So, yes, Mr. Chairman, we are not going to kick the can down the road. We are going to get on with the job and that is what the people who voted us in asked for, and that is what we will do. I am happy to answer any further questions that Members of the Opposition may have.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you very much, Premier. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 9. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I would like to speak with particular reference to the Office of the Tax Commissioner, which is Head 38 (it is on B -98) with respect to the …
Thank you very much, Premier. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 9.
Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I would like to speak with particular reference to the Office of the Tax Commissioner, which is Head 38 (it is on B -98) with respect to the revenue. The Premier spoke in his brief about contin uing to make attempts to collect the arrears of taxes there. The Office of the Tax Commissioner I think is approaching $300 million now. Obviously, there are also large arrears in the Social Insurance Office. The Social Insurance Office, of course, is particularly i mportant because those hurt individuals. If their pension is not paid up when they retire, they do not get their pension, or they do not get the pension that they paid into. Maybe it is a case of the employers making the deductions and then using that money for operations, effectively stealing it and not putting it in, or not ma king the employers’ contributions. In any case, the employee still gets short -changed. So these are serious problems. When the OBA came in, we found that there were serious pro blems. There were attempts to sort of stop the decay. There were, I think, more staff appointed in the Office of the Director of Social Insurance, with respect to collections, which is the other side of the Tax Co mmissioner who does the payroll tax. My own view is from my experience in the Attorney General’s office being in charge of the Debt Enforcement Unit is that greater efforts need to be made. And, quite rightly in his brief, the Minister of Finance has pointed out that some of these debts are challenging to collect as they get older and older. One of t he complaints was that by the time debts are referred by the Office of the Tax Commi ssioner to the Debt Enforcement Unit they are very old. And the older a debt gets the harder it is to collect. If it is from a company, the company winds up, et cetera, et cetera, the employer disappears, et cetera. So I think my own view is that greater chan ges need to be made. I must say I made efforts myself to try and introduce some new techniques of debt collections as well as strengthening the ones that were there. The ones that were there I think were strengt hBermuda House of Assembly ened, but I think we need to be more imaginative in terms of collecting debts. I think the Office . . . I found myself some . . . and I am not criticising the operation, I think people there were doing what they could under difficult ci rcumstances. And I know they are facing staffing changes. However, having said that, there was some resistance to some new methods such as outsourcing some debt collection. The Enforcement Unit in Chambers is not big enough to deal with the $300 million that is owed. And it needs to have more put toward it. The Minister’s brief seems to indicate that there is not going to be any additional effort put into it. When the OBA came into power in 2012 there huge collectables, and from this brief today I do not see an-ywhere for it to go but up. I note what the Minister has just said with r espect to using QuickBooks to make it easier for in particular small businesses to pay online, et cetera. I would support that. I think it is a wonderful thing. But I think still greater efforts need to be made to attack the mountain of arrears that are sitting out there. In his brief he has just indicating more of the same and I think the efforts need to be redoubled. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Chair man: Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Member care to speak to Finance? We have a few more minutes remaining. If not, Premier. Would you care to wrap up? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. I thank the honourable former Attorney General for his co mments. I will note that in a previous debate that I think he was involved in, the issues related to the Debt E nforcement Unit were discussed and spoken about, but his comments are taken under note. I am hearing someone who is a Liverpool supporter asking to speak, so I will yield the floor.
The ChairmanChairmanThe Chair recognises the Honourable Member from constituency 29. Am I correct? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Yes, that is correct. Good memory. Good memory, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I j ust want to make a couple of quick points. I know that we have a few …
The Chair recognises the Honourable Member from constituency 29. Am I correct? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Yes, that is correct. Good memory. Good memory, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I j ust want to make a couple of quick points. I know that we have a few minutes left. The Honourable Member who just took his seat, the former Attorney General, had me scratching my head because he talked about the Debt Enforc ement Unit and how he was trying, or he was attempt-ing to try some new things and did not get it done. Maybe that is because he was too busy shredding papers. You know, it leads one to wonder why — Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Point of order, Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanWhat is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives] Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: You know, he seems to be imputing improper motives and using unparliamentary language.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, you know what? If the hat fits, wea r it, Mr. Chairman. I did not mention any improper motives; I said he might have been busy shredding papers. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Chairman, point of order, point of order. We …
Thank you.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, you know what? If the hat fits, wea r it, Mr. Chairman. I did not mention any improper motives; I said he might have been busy shredding papers.
Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Chairman, point of order, point of order. We have been done this road. That Member gets on his feet on every occasion w hen he has, he seems to have some sort of obsession with me from his business partner, but he should really leave that to the appropriate debate. I am happy to take him on in the motion to adjourn tonight if he wants to let it go for once. We can have a go at it this evening.
The ChairmanChairmanAll right. It is 4:15. We are on F inance, Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. We have had a very productive debate on Finance. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, yes, it has been very productive, indeed! In fact, the Honourable Member, the former Attorney General, talks about …
All right. It is 4:15. We are on F inance, Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. We have had a very productive debate on Finance.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, yes, it has been very productive, indeed! In fact, the Honourable Member, the former Attorney General, talks about my former boss, or my current boss, well, it seems to me the way that he carries on, he is taking orders from his boss, David Duke, for all I know, Mr. Chairman. But, Mr. Chairman, let me just go to where I was. You see, Mr. Chairman, that seems to be the problem with the OBA. I have heard throughout the week, especially in particular today, when we are tal king about finances and debt and things of this nature is that they are full of suggestions, mentioning thi ngs like, You should get this done . . . the tax department this . . . We heard the Opposition Leader talk about the lack of resources in the tax department. And of course, you will know, Mr. Chairman, that their MO was not to increase staff levels, or to reduce them, or a little bit of both. And they did that.
[Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes! Exactly that. Privatis ation everywhere they could do it. But the fact of the matter is . . . and then, it is funny because the Opposition Leader and the Ho nourable Member from constituency 22 seem to forget that their former Finance Minister fuzzied up the numbers every chance he got.
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman, I believe that the speaker is losing his way. If he wants to talk about some concerns about numbers —
The ChairmanChairmanDo you have a point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, point of order. I believe that the speaker is not dealing with the budget which is what we are supposed to be talking about today and I do not understand about fuzzing up any numbers.
The ChairmanChairmanHonourable Member, we have only about seven more minutes left. And if you could speak line items and just — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. And I will not be long.
The ChairmanChairman—wrap it up. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And just to put the fuzzy in the numbers to bed, it was the former Finance Mini ster that said that he fuzzied up the numbers. He made statement in this House. He said he fuzzied the num-bers. It is accounting …
—wrap it up. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And just to put the fuzzy in the numbers to bed, it was the former Finance Mini ster that said that he fuzzied up the numbers. He made statement in this House. He said he fuzzied the num-bers. It is accounting term, if you remember. So let me just finish on this note.
The ChairmanChairmanB-99. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, I am actually on B -98, Head 10, Ministry Headquarters. That is what I am talking about. But the Honourable Opposition Leader when she got up to speak . . . one of things that really threw me was when she talked …
B-99.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, I am actually on B -98, Head 10, Ministry Headquarters. That is what I am talking about. But the Honourable Opposition Leader when she got up to speak . . . one of things that really threw me was when she talked about the headcount, and where the money has gone. And you will know, as the Premier and Finance Minister tried to explain to the Opposition Leader and those on the other side who do not seem to get it, is that they had positions that were vacant but funded. See, the difference is that what they did was even though they were getting people to retire through this great retirement package or through attrition and what have you . . . what they did no t tell Bermuda was that they were hiring consultants out of the ying- yang. Every time you turned around there was another con-sultant hired. That is exactly what they did.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And the Honourable Member from constituency 22 says, Nonsense. Well, I know when I was in the Ministry of Sport for just a couple of months I found that there were several there. We also know that in the Ministry of Health former PS, Mr. Monkman, is a consultant. So he took a retirement package . . . maybe I will take a seat and yield because you have I think you have two—
The ChairmanChairmanWhat is your point of order, Mr. [Gi bbons]? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant GibbonsThe H onourable Member is misleading the House. When he was in Government, the professional services line was well over $100 million. The former OBA Government had to reduce that over a number of years. So talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Hon. Zan e J. S. De …
The H onourable Member is misleading the House. When he was in Government, the professional services line was well over $100 million. The former OBA Government had to reduce that over a number of years. So talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Hon. Zan e J. S. De Silva: Thank you. It is funny. That $100 million cannot leave the lips of the Member who just took his seat can it? Every time he raises to his feet it is $100 million. If it not consultants, it is the America’s Cup. But let me just finish off that point, Mr. Chai rman. What they do not tell you is the money that they spent on consultants. Let me finish on this note. Whilst they were freezing positions and hiring consul tants—mostly friends and family, right? . . . While they were doing that —
Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Careful, careful, Mr. Chai rman. We may have to talk about Port Royal. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That’s right. See, the Ho nourable Member —
The ChairmanChairmanContinue on. You have a few more minutes left. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: David Duke’s protégée. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That is right. So . . . but let me say this. What they did not do, and what they did not . . …
Continue on. You have a few more minutes left. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: David Duke’s protégée.
[Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That is right. So . . . but let me say this. What they did not do, and what they did not . . . well, we knew that they knew. But they burnt a lot of civil servants at both ends. That is what they did. When they said, Oh, we are going to cut the . . . we won’t lay any civil servants off. We won’t do this . . . we won’t privatise. But what they were actua lly doing was doing that with these deals that they offered some of the civil servant s that they hired back a couple of months later. Probably for . . . I do not know, 50 per cent more than what they were making prior. The fact of the matter is that burnout occurred. Burnout occurred in some very serious areas. And one of them I will speak to . . . and I am sure the
Bermuda House of Assembly Minister will speak to it in a minute when he gets to talk about his Ministry, is that we had many of our civil servants that need the assistance that this Gover nment is going to give them in terms of getting the r esources and help that they need in their [respective] Ministries. Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanMr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 10, 12, 38 and 58 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that Heads 10, 12, 38 and 58 under the Minist ry of Finance be approved. Any objections? No objections. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanSo moved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Finance: Head 10, Headquarters; Head 12, Customs Revenue; Head 38, Office of the Tax Commissioner; and H ead 58, Interest on Debt, were approved and stand part of the E stimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2018/19.]
The ChairmanChairmanWe now move on to Social Development which are Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 which will be led by Minister Michael Weeks, but before we do that there will be change in the Chair. [Pause] [Ms. Leah K. Scott, Chairman]
The ChairmanChairmanMembers, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for fiscal year 2018 /19. Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 are now to be d ebated. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Mi nister, you have the floor. …
Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for fiscal year 2018 /19. Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 are now to be d ebated. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Mi nister, you have the floor.
MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY, CULTURE AND SPORT
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Before we proceed, what time will debate be ende d?
The ChairmanChairman[It will end] at 8:23. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, I move the following heads. Head 23, Child and Family Services; Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs; Head 55, Financial Assistance; and Head 88, National Drug Control be now taken under consideration. HEAD 23 …
[It will end] at 8:23.
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, I move the following heads. Head 23, Child and Family Services; Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs; Head 55, Financial Assistance; and Head 88, National Drug Control be now taken under consideration.
HEAD 23 —CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, I now wish to present the fiscal year 2018/19 Estimates of Expenditure for Head 23, the Department of Child and Family Se rvices, which are found on pages B -249 to B-254 of the Estimates Book. Madam Chairman, the mission statement for the Department of Child and Family Services is to promote and protect the best interest and social well - being of children, adults and families in order to enhance their social functioning and their quality of life. The objectives of the department are: • To minimise and eliminate those social, ps ychological, or other conditions known to cause or contribute to physical and emotional illness and sometimes socioeconomic problems. • To promote growth and directional change in people, and their social situation. • To assist in facilitating or improving social support for those in our population who are at risk. • To provide treatment or curative services to address dysfunction and thereby assist people to function better in society. • To restore individuals to a healthy condition or useful capacity. The department achieves these objectives by providing day care services; care and protection ser-vices for children; residential and home- based services for families; assessment; intervention; and counselling services for children, adolescents and families. Madam Chairman, the Department of Child and Family Services budget estimate for fiscal year 2018/19 is $15,715, 000. This represents an increase of $81,000, or 1 per cent of the original budget for fiscal year 2017/18. The Children Act 1998 governs the Depar tment of Child and Family Services, which is charged with the responsibility of promoting and protecting the best interest and social well -being of children, adolescents, adults and families. The Department of Child and Family Services continues to focus on providing integrated programming that allows children, adolescents and families to receive services that ar e appropriate and coordinated, thus meeting the needs of families and assisting them with the diverse challenges they face. These chal-lenges include but are not limited to: lack of parenting, social and life skills; the ability to maintain housing, secure employment, and effectively budget; the abuse of substances; involvement in anti -social behaviour; cognitive deficits; educational challenges; mental health issues; and anger management issues. For 1492 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly many persons, these diverse challenges are exacerbated by difficult economic times. Madam Chairman, in order to meet these r esponsibilities, the department operates four pr ogrammes: • Programme 2301, Services to Children/Young Persons; • Programme 2302, Services to Individuals and Families; • Programme 2303, Residentia l Treatment Services; and • Programme 2304, Administration. Madam Chairman, the Department of Child and Family Services business units are discussed in turn by p rogramme.
Programme 2301— Services to Children and Young Persons
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the fiscal year 2018/19 budget allocation for business unit 33010, the Happy Valley Child Care Centre (HVCCC), is $918,000 (see page B -250). This is a decrease of $27,000, or 3 per cent, compared to the revised fiscal year 2017/18 estimate of $945, 000. The modest decrease in funding will be achieved by prioritising the resources associated with the feeding, clothing and enrichment programmes at the centre. The output measures for the Happy Valley Child Care Centre programme are found on page B - 253 of the Estimates Book. Madam Chairman, Happy Valley Child Care Centre [HVCCC] is the only Government operated child care centre for children between the ages of three months to four years old. The registered facility provides high quality child care for a m aximum of 40 children. Madam Chairman, Happy Valley Child Care Centre’s monthly fee is $400 per child. If a child is in the care of the Director of Child and Family Services, they do not qualify for child day care allowance pr ovided by the Department of Financial Assistance and as such their costs are absorbed by the Department of Child and Family Services (DCFS). The revenue for Happy Valley Child Care Centre during fiscal year 2018/19 is projected to amount to $192,000, which remains consistent with fis cal year 2017/18. (S ee page B -251.) Madam Chairman, Happy Valley Child Care Centre— and I will refer to it from now on as HVCCC — is not profit driven and revenue collected does not offset operational expenses. This is because HVCCC is specifically designed t o meet the comprehensive needs of young children. It provides an extensive cur-riculum of high academic standards with trained teachers who are continuously involved in professional growth and development. It also offers enrichment programmes that encourage parental involvement and growth development to strengthen family functioning and improve child development. Madam Chairman, in 2018/19, the HVCCC will continue to offer a comprehensive range of services including: an intervention programme; a full nu-tritional programme that provides morning snack , lunch and afternoon snack that is monitored and approved by the Health Department’s Public Health n utritionist; mandatory parenting classes and involv ement; parent CPR classes; yoga; gymnastics; music and movem ent; computer activities; reading and wri ting; science; math; community service; field trips; ri ding; gardening; and swimming classes. These curric ulum activities assist in the overall development of the children at the c entre. Madam Chairman, on the 7 th of July 2017, 16 children graduated from Happy Valley Child Care Centre. They were well prepared to attend preschool, with four of the graduates reading at the emergent level. The Happy Valley Child Care Centre consistently utili ses child assessment outcom es for classroom planning and individual intervention lesson activities. Madam Chairman, child care placement at the Happy Valley Child Care Centre continues to be in demand. [There were] 130 applications received for the 17 spaces that were available in S eptember 2017. The inability to accommodate increasing demands , coupled with the need of care for special needs chi ldren, remain ongoing challenges facing the Happy Valley Child Care Centre. Madam Chairman, the staff at the Happy Va lley Child Care Centre s trive to maintain a first -class facility while educating children in a safe, healthy and caring environment. As the Minister of Social Deve lopment and Sport, I would like to express my apprec iation to the staff at the Happy Valley Child Care Ce ntre, their active Parent Teacher Association [PTA] , their volunteers and community partners for their con-tinued dedication to the success of Bermuda’s future through our children.
Programme 2302— Services to Individuals and Families
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman , $5,897,000 has been allocated to Programme 2302, which addresses activities concerning family services, foster care and counselling and life skill services. This represents an increase of $394,000, or 7 per cent compared to the revised budget estimate of $5,503,000 in fiscal year 2017/18 (see page B -250). The increased funding will assist the d epartment to respond to a rising demand for services, as will be explained shortly. Madam Chairman, the Intake and Asses sment team provides care and protective services to the children of Bermuda. This is achieved through three speciali sed units: Screening, Investigation and Assessment team with a total of 15 staff. The output
Bermuda House of Assembly measures for Intake and Assessments can be found on page B -259 of the Estimates Book. Madam Chairman, to date the Investigation Team has received 1,222 new referrals in fiscal year 2017/18, an increase of 211 new referrals screened by the Department of Child and Family Services over the same period in fiscal year 2016/17. Out of the 1,222 new referrals reported for various forms of abuse, 430 were substantiated, 395 unsubstantiated, 111 suspected, 221 screened out, and 65 are pending completion of the investigations. Referrals were r eceived in fiscal year 2017/18 for the following types of abuse: • neglect —515; • sexual abuse— 279; • physical abuse —187; • behaviour problems —111; • emotional abuse—78 ; • other services —20 . Of the 1,222 referrals, 628 were female and 594 were male. The age group between five and nine years old received the highest number ref errals , [which was] 397. Madam Chairman, the Intake Section conti nues to make significant strides while working with fam-ilies during investigation and assessment. The primary objective is for the d epartment and families to work together without DCFS having to resort to applying for a court order. As a result, to date the social workers have completed 1, 013 safety assessments, which is an increase of 581 safety assessments during the same period last year. During the investigation , parents demonstrated that they were more willing to sign a safety plan and they were committed to providing a safe environment for their children. Madam Chairman, the Assessment team is required to complete comprehensive assessments on children who are experiencing issues ranging from substance abuse to cognitive challenges. The team completed 188 assessment tools along with 46 r eports that provided parents, social workers and other professionals with clear recommendations for inter-vention and support services for each child and their family. Madam Chairman, the following is an overview of the statistical outputs and outcomes for the Family Preservation Team for the calendar year 2017. The Family Preservation Team served a combined total of 195 families and 214 children. This is a 23 per cent increase in families over the prior year. • 21 per cent of caseloads were twoparent households ; • 54 per cent of caseloads were female, single parent households ; • 4 per cent of caseloads were male, single parent households ; and • 5 per cent of the caseload s were legal guardian households . During 2017, 89 new cases were referred to Family Preservation. Throughout the year a total of 56 cases were closed. All closed cases were void of child safety or child protection issues at closure. During the year there were 105 new referrals to Intake of abuse/neglect on open cases in Family Preservation. Of these cases: • physical abuse —6; • sexual abuse— 5; • emotional abuse—9 ; • neglect —77 ; • children beyond parental control —8; I note that n eglect was the highest cat egory of referrals on open cases at 77 of the total referrals. Data indicated that exposure to domestic violence was the largest contributor to this high number. There has been an increase in domestic violence referrals to intake and this has a direct corr elation to the increase on the Family Preservation caseload. One of the goals for 2018 is to explore further intervention in this area. Madam Chairman, as the Minister of Social Development and Sports, I would like to commend the Family Preservation Team and its coordinators for their commitment to families throughout 2017. Madam Chairman, the fiscal year 2018/19 budget allocation for business unit 33030, Foster Care, is $2,135,000, an increase of $37,000, or 2 per cent, c ompared to the original estimate for fiscal year 2017/18. The Foster Care Section is responsible for providing alternative living arrangements for children under the age of 18 years who require “out of home placement .” During fiscal year 2017/18, the foster care team was responsible for 73 children. This represents an increase of three foster children compared to the previous fiscal year. Madam Chairman, as of December 31 st, 2017, Foster Care had several sibling sets of children in care: sibling set of two —10 sets; sibling set of three— 3 set s; sibling set of five —1 set . Madam Chairman, in fiscal year 2017/18, the Department of Child and Family Services partnered with internal and external stakeholders to ensure foster children had the necessary psychological and educational services to addres s their needs. Madam Chairman, 25 children were in kinship placements, which provides for children to be placed with family members such as grandparents, other ex-tended family members , or godparents. This is the preferred placement of the Department of Chi ld and Family Services , as children benefit by keeping them with their biological family. At the end of 2017, three children were reunified with their biological parents. Five youth reached the age of 18 years and aged out of the foster care system. Three children were in ki nship placements and remained with family. Two continued to reside with their foster families. Madam Chairman, seven new foster parents were recruited by the Foster Care coordinator in fiscal year 2017/18. Although, recruitment of foster parents 1494 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly has been challenging over the years , an increase in advertisement through Facebook and Twitter in fiscal year 2017/18 has proven to be a success. To bring further awareness to foster care and being a foster parent the President of the Foster Parent Association [FPA] was featured in two articles during fiscal year 2017/18, highlighting the importance of fostering in Bermuda. Madam Chairman, during fiscal year 2017/18, the Foster Care Section hosted six seminars for foster parents with the goal of increasing their knowledge, understanding and skills caring for foster children. Madam Chairman, I would like to acknowledge the foster parents of Bermuda, our un-sung heroes who provide love and stability to children who have experienced significant trauma due to abuse and/or neglect. In addition, I would like to acknowledge the Foster Parent Association, in particular the executive, who work in partnership with the foster care team and provide funds to enable foster children to participate in educational tr ips, attend specialis ed recreational programmes and to resource la ptops for school. Finally, Madam Chairman, I also wish to extend appreciation to the St. Paul’s AME Missionary Committee, Amlin Company, Renaissance Re, the Delta Sorority and numerous indiv idual donors for their continuous generosity and support throughout fiscal year 2017/18.
Programme 2303—Residential Treatment Services
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the services covered in p rogram me 2303 is Residential Treatment Services (RTS). These services are offered at several facilities including Brangman Home, Oleander Cottage, the Youth Development Centre (YDC) and Administration. For this programme, there is a budget allocation of $7,343,000 for fiscal year 2018/19. T his represents a decrease of $268,000, or 4 per cent, compared to the revised estimate in fiscal year 2017/18 (see page B -250). Although there is a small decrease in funding, the allocated budget for fiscal year 2018/19 is sufficient to ensure provision of a quality service to children and families based on best practice standards. Madam Chairman, Residential Treatment Services provides a continuum of intervention services to children between the ages of 12 and 18 years who are deemed by Family Court to be at risk in the comm unity. By way of a Care Order made by the courts, the Director of Child and Family Services is responsible for all children placed in Residential Treatment Services. This ensures that the children receive care and protection in a safe and structured environment. Madam Chairman, the RTS programme pr ovides 24- hour services for young ladies residing at Brangman Home and young men residing at Oleander Cottage. The Youth Development Centre is utili sed to provide one- to-one and special management of res idents bas ed on their needs as indicated by ongoing evaluations. In March 2017, the Youth Development Centre building was closed to allow Public Lands and Buildings to carry out the required repairs and renov ations as outlined in a health and safety assessment and t he findings of the accreditation site inspection. The boys housed there were relocated as the Oleander Cottage building is not ideal for long- term group living, but it is anticipated that these renovations will be completed within a timely manner. Madam Chairman, the inclusion of family is a key component of the service provision at RTS, and when this is not possible, alternative community - based partnerships and resources are used to devel-op an appropriate community -based plan. The ult imate goal of RTS is to have children transition within 12 months of placement or to implement an individual plan that may include independent living, depending on age and family circumstances. During fiscal year 2017/18, Residential Treatment Services provided community -based services to five children transitioning back into the co mmunity, as well as those eligible for discharge. RTS provides group living; individual and group counselling; family assessments and interve ntions; parent groups (as needed); vocational and ed ucational planning; and life skills development. Aftercare and interagency interaction services are based on the individual needs of the adolescent. Madam Chairman, the allocated budget for fiscal year 2018/19, continues to reflect the Depar tment of Child and Family Services’ commitment to ongoing quality improvement based on sound statist ical data and empirical research. In fiscal year 2017/18, client data again indicated that the majority of children requiring this service had family relationship issues and c hildhood trauma. Due to trauma - induced behaviours with residents, RTS continues to utilise therapeutic and family components of the programme, maintaining its partnership with Cornell Un iversity as they continue to provide RTS staff with Therapeutic Crisis Intervention (TCI) and Children and Residential Environments (C.A.R.E.) [ training ]. Madam Chairman, RTS provided in- house services for 24 adolescents in 2017, comprising of 11 males and 13 females. Client’s services included case management of children as indicated by individual assessments and service plans. Interventions inclu ded cottage program mes, transition, respite, family r eunification and aftercare. There has been a decrease in male referrals as many proposed male referrals require services not av ailable at RTS. Those male youth with greater needs are usually maintained in the community to the best of our abilities. When more speciali sed services are indicated they are referred to the Psycho- Educational programme .
Bermuda House of Assembly Client profiles for 2017 indicated that 100 per cent of adolescents involved in the services had family relationship issues . The majority of children, both male and female had experienced childhood trauma, including abandonment, abuse, grief and domestic violence. One of the goals for RTS in 2018 is to ident ify additional trauma awareness and skills training to further equip the RTS staff in responding more effectively to meet the complex needs of the children and their families. Madam Chairman, in 2017 RTS client base consisted of childre n who have undergone the follo wing circumstances: 75 per cent of clients experienced abandonment ; 50 per cent experienced/witnessed domestic violence; 34 per cent experienced sexual abuse; 67 per cent have developmental trauma sym ptoms ; 58 per cent have mood disturbances/depressive symptoms ; 58 per cent have learning challenges ; and 58 per cent have experienced parents separating/divorcing. Over the previous year Residential Treatment Services has successfully met the majority of the planned outputs/outcomes, as seen on pages B-253 and B -254. Statistical data and the performance qual ity improvement process have been used to monitor quality and to determine improvements required for the delivery of services.
Programme 2304— Administration
Hon. Michael A. W eeks: Madam Chairman, $1,557,000 has been allocated to p rogramme 2304 , Administration for fiscal year 2018/19. This is a decrease of $18,000, or 1 per cent, compared to the r evised budget allocation in fiscal year 2017/18. Madam Chairman, the Administration Section of the Department of Child and Family Services is r esponsible for the general supervision of the sections within the department. The introduction of an integrated data management system for the Department of Child and Family Services is expected to go live early in this budget year. This database will further support the high standard of client service delivery established within the department. Madam Chairman, the department has noted an increase in clients and/ or family members presenting with m ental health challenges (diagnosed and u ndiagnosed), substance abuse, aggressive and violent behaviours. Consequently, health and safety has become a major concern to the Department of Child and Family Services , Administration Section. The change in client profile has been associated with an increase in the number of threatening and /or violent behaviours directed towards staff in 2017. This heightened the need for DCFS to examine the health and safety of staff, and develop strategies to reduce risk factors in the workplace. Trauma, secondary trauma, compassion fatigue and burnout have been experienced by DCFS staff during the last year , and have a significant impact on the entire d epartment. In an effort to reduce this impact, over the next budget year staff will receive ongoing training around mitigating safety risks, working with dually di-agnosed client and maintaining wellness and self - care. Debriefing—the process of providing assistance to employees following an event of a critical or cat astrophic work incident —will be made a mandatory part of the Department of Child and Family Services standard operating procedures. Debriefing will provide staff with an opportunity to discuss their account of the incident; develop a plan to reduce the likelihood of that i ncident occurring again, and provide staff with the necessary guidance, training and support to effectively move pass the incident. Madam Chairman, during the 2018/19 budget year, the administration section of DCFS endeavours to improve its physical space such that staff will be better protected in the execution of their daily duties. This will include the installation, activation and monitoring of panic buttons, the installation of a safety screen in the reception area, along with security sy stems , where n eeded. Madam Chairman, the Psycho- Educational [Psych o-Ed] programme falls under the remit of the administration section of DCFS. Psych o-Ed was d eveloped to be a resource to children who could not be effectively serviced locally or those who had exhaus ted all available therapeutic services. As our ability to diagnose various psychological, behavioural and edu-cational challenges has improved, more children are being identified with needing speciali sed services that cannot be provided locally. During 2017, a total of 15 clients were serviced overseas in therapeutic placements for a co mplexity of issues identified across the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) IV Crit eria of Mental Disorders. Madam Chairman, fortunately, with the i mplementation of an assessment team as a part of the restructuring of the Department of Child and Family Services, there has been a significant decrease in the number of Psycho -Ed clients being referred without an accurate diagnosis or a clear -cut treatment plan of what was to be gained by the overseas treatment placement. Consequently, during the last budget year Psych o-Ed only had one client who was referred to an overseas service provider that speciali sed primarily in providing clinical and co mprehensive assessments at a university hospital. The current data revealed that from April through December 2017, 15 clients have been ser-viced overseas, a reduction from 22 during the same period of 2016. Four were females and eleven were males. The majority of the clien ts presented significant problems and three out of the five [were] multiaxial classifications. 1496 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Chairman, as the field of social work can be a thankless profession, at this time I would like to take the time to thank all the staff within the D epartm ent of Child and Family Services for their commitment and dedication to providing effective services to those families requiring the array of services that they provide. That ends Head 23, Madam Chairman.
HEAD 52 —DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL AFFAI RS
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, I will now present the fiscal year 2018/19 Estimates of Expend iture and Revenue for Head 52, the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs which can be found on pages B -255 through B -261 of the Estimates Book. Mission statement. The department's mission is to cultivate a greater sense of national identity and pride by engaging with the community to develop our society through culture, heritage, and educational outreach. The department’s objectives. Madam Chai rman, the department’s objectives are shown on page B255 of the Estimates Book. There is no need for me to repeat them here. The Department of Community and Cultural Affairs administers two programmes and 12 business units for which a general summary is contained on page B -256 of the Estimates Book. The fiscal year 2018/19 budget estimate for Head 52 is $2,242,000, a net reduction of $769,769 when compared to the ori ginal estimate for fiscal year 2017/18. This is due to the transfer of the community education and development programme to the Ministry of Education and Wor kforce Development. Madam Chairman, I will now discuss the 10 business units that fall under programme 5202, Cul-tural Affairs.
Programme 5202—Cultural Affairs
Business Unit 62000—Grants to Organisations
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the total amount budgeted under this business unit for fiscal year 2018/19 is $223,000, which reflects a small i ncrease of 5 per cent, or $10,000 compared to fiscal year 2017/18 budget allocation ( see page B -256). The Department of Community and Cultural Affairs is responsible for promoting, preserving, and celebrating Bermuda’s rich and diverse cultural heri tage and for the arts. These goals are achieved in part by partnering with private sector organi sations by providing funding. Organisations that will receive f inancial support in the upcoming fiscal year are: • The Bermuda Historical Society; • St. George’s Historical Society; • St. George’s Preservation Authority; • Bermuda Arts Council; • Bermuda Heritage Association; • Bermuda National Gallery; • Cultural Legacy Fund recipients; and • St. George’s Foundation.
Business Unit 62001— Administration
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the function of this business unit is to provide for the admi nistration and operation of the Department of Comm unity and Cultural Affairs which is located on the fourth floor of the Dame Lois Browne- Evans Building. Madam Chairman, the budget estimate for fi scal year 2018/19 for this business unit is $818,000, as shown on page B -256. A decrease of $25,000 compared to fiscal year 2017/18. Administrative operating costs have been reduced for courier services, contrac-tors, and overtime pay. Madam Chairman, the budget estimate for fi scal year 2018/19 for this business unit is $8 . . . I already read that, Madam Chairman. I am moving right along.
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Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, business unit 62001 contains allocations for salaries and wages, professional development, communications, pr ogramming and general office supplies, educational materials, website maintenance, books and periodical subscriptions , and telephone services.
Business Unit 62010— Emancipation and Cultural Festivals
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the budget estimate business unit 62010 in fiscal year 2018/19 is $59,000, a decrease of $102,000 com-pared to the original budget estimate for fiscal year 2017/18. This decrease is largely attributed to a reall ocation of funds to business unit 62210 to augment expenditures for the expanded Bermuda International Gombey Festival. Madam Chairman, this business unit covers the cost of promoting the culture and heritage of Bermuda and its people through festivals and other pr ogrammes and events such as the Emancipation Commemorative Ceremony and Harbour Nights.
Business Unit 62020—Heritage Celebrations
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the total estimate for this business unit for fiscal year 2018/19 is $236,000, an increase of $19,000, or 9 per cent, over fiscal year 2017/18, due to increasing infrast ructure costs by external vendors. This business unit c overs the cost of celebrations for both Heritage Month and the Bermuda Day Parade. Heritage Month cel eBermuda House of Assembly brations are a series of cultural events and activities which concludes with the fantastic Bermuda Day P arade. Heritage Month. The theme for Heritage Month 2018 is “What We Share” which mirrors the Bermuda National Gallery’s theme of the same name for their 2018 biannual exhibition. This theme is designed to promote unity , and this year we will be encouraging community -wide participation as we present a robust series of events, entertainment , and activities that will illustrate many aspects of Bermuda’s unique heritage. Bermuda Day Parade. Madam Chairman, this year is the first year that Bermuda Day wil l be cel ebrated on the last Friday in May instead of on the 24th of May. (Sounds good.) In this regard, we will begin the process of rebranding and reshaping Bermuda Day. Considerable emphasis will be spent on reengaging the community with the Bermuda Day Parade. There were 53 entrants in the 2017 Bermuda Day P arade and we intend to do even better in 2018. To as-sist float entrants and boat decorating, the Depar tment of Community and Cultural Affairs will be offer-ing free workshops to the public. The departm ent will make a special effort to contact potential new entrants and it is hoped that the whole community will support the Bermuda Day Parade in 2018.
Business Unit 62030—Cultural Education Programme
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the budget esti mate for business unit 62030 for fiscal year 2018/19 is $29,000 (see page B -256) representing a decrease of $12,000, or 29 per cent compared to the original estimate for fiscal year 2017/18. This decrease is due to a reallocation of funds to business unit 62080 to support the Bermuda Literary Awards. Madam Chairman, in fiscal year 2018/19, the department will continue to develop three new study guides entitled, Shipwrecks , Traditional Bermuda Boatbuilding, and Medicinal Uses of Plants for use within the s chool system to complement the Bermuda Folklife Documentary Series which is collection of full length feature films highlighting the traditions and tr adition bearers of Bermuda.
Business Unit 62050—National Heroes Day
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairm an, the all ocated budget for fiscal year 2018/19 is $59,000. This reflects an increase of $3,000 compared to the orig inal estimate in fiscal year 2017/18.
Business Unit 62060— Promotion of the Arts
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the fiscal year 2 018/19 budget estimate for business unit 62060 is $44,000 which is the same as the original budget estimate for fiscal year 2017/18 (see page B -256). Madam Chairman, the two primary activities associated with this business unit are the Premier’s Concert a nd the writer -in-residence series. The Premier’s Concert is used to promote the visual and performing arts. In previous years, the annual Premier’s Concert has served to highlight selected students between the ages of 10 and 20 years old who are exce lling in a variety of genres of the arts. Last year the Premier’s Concert provided an opportunity to sho wcase the restaging, at the Ruth Seaton James Centre for the Performing Arts , of the Bermudian continuing performances at CARIFESTA XIII in Barbados includ-ing participating dancers, spoken word artists, visual artists, crafts persons, Gombeys and musicians. In the fiscal year 2018/19, the Premier’s Concert will continue to highlight and feature outstanding young people in the visual and performing arts with an intent to introduce an element of apprenticeship and additional training to the programme. Madam Chairman, the Department of Co mmunity and Cultural Affairs develops our literary arts by hosting an annual writer -in-residence workshop focusing on a variety of genres. Recogni sing the rise in popularity of thrillers and detective fiction, the department is currently hosting a three- week writer -inresidence programme focusing on mystery and crime fiction. The department was fortunate in securing award winning British /Grenadian writer and adaptor, Mr. Jacob Ross to serve as the instructor which also features a public reading and workshops for secondary school students. In fiscal year 2018/19, the department will seek to have a writer -in-residence programme f ocused on historical fiction. Given the historical bent of many Bermudian writers, this workshop will provide the opportunity to explore some of the experiences of our past through the lens of creative writing.
Business Unit 62070—Folklife
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the budget estimate for business unit 62070 for fiscal year 2018/19 is $142,000, which is a decrease of $15,000 from the original estimate in fiscal year 2017/18 (see page B -256). This decrease is attributed to a realloc ation of funds to business unit 62080 in order to support the Bermuda Literary Awards as well as a reduc-tion in the Folklife Apprenticeship Programme and Folklife Documentaries. Madam Chairman, the Bermuda Heartbeats Lecture Series, now in its 15 th year, is funded through this business unit. The new season commencing in April 2018 will feature nine events and three film nights. As part of this programme the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs will feature events including a boat tour focusing on the architect ure of the buildings fringing Hamilton Harbour in collabor a1498 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly tion with the Bermuda National Trust ; a retrospective interview with eminent Bermudian historian and social activist Dr. Eva Hodgson ; and Azores Day, in collaboration with the Casa Dos A çores Bermuda—that was my best attempt at Portuguese. The department completed two Folklife Documentary films during fiscal year 2017/18 entitled Traditional Bermuda Games and Crafts , and Wha Ya Sayin ? Bermudian Dialect, Spoken Word and Stor ytelling . In fiscal year 2018/19, the department intends to launch these two documentaries which feature tr adition bearers Judith James, Shirley Pearman, Yvonne James, George Leon Burt, Florenz WebbMaxwell, Brittani Fubler, Bruce Barritt, V ejay Steede, and Ruth E. Thomas. The department will also work towards completing a film on Bermuda’s traditions featuring cultural experts such as wedding cake ma ker, Ms. Juliette Jackson, and cultural doyenne , Miss Ruth E. Thomas. Madam Chairman, the Department of Co mmunity and Cultural Aff airs offers the Folklife Apprenticeship Programme to support the preservation of cultural knowledge and skills from one generation to the next. During fiscal year 2017/18, the department focused on the art of float building given the scarcity of tradition bearers in this area and the importance of this skill for our iconic Bermuda Day Parade. This year, the department plans to implement a version of the Apprenticeship Programme that aligns with assisting programming to offer a fuller, more r obust experienc e for the apprentices.
Business Unit 62080—Research and Publication
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the fiscal year 2018/19 budget estimate for business unit 62080 is $101,000, representing an increase of $19,000 compared to the original estimate for fiscal year 2017/18 of [82,000]. This increase is largely attributed to a reallocation of funds from business units 62030 and 62070 in order to support the Bermuda Literary Awards as noted earlier in my presentation. Madam Chairman, the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs recognises the importance of supporting original academic research on Berm uda’s rich history and heritage. In fiscal year 2018/19 the department will sponsor another research project that will add to our historical knowledge of Bermuda, a project entitled , Mary Prince in Antigua: The Latter Years of Bermuda’s National Hero, by Dr. Margot Maddison- MacFadyen. Upon completion of the r esearch, Dr. Maddison- MacFadyen will present her findings to the Bermudian public including school vis-its, publisher work and scholarly journals , and make her work available on her existing website, www.maryprince.org . We are excited to learn more about the fate of one of Bermuda’s internationally best known historical figures. The department will again sponsor two Bermudian researchers in fiscal year 2018/19: Brittani Cann- Fubler and Rosemary Hall who have teamed up to study Bermuda’s unique dialect and linguistic trad itions and produce public lectures and academic papers. Madam Chairman, as part of the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs expansion of the Gombey Festival, the department will be working with local and international historians on academic r esearch relating to Bermuda’s Gombey traditi ons, i ncluding links of similar traditions in the Caribbean and West Africa in terms of dance, masking, masquerading, and rhythm. In fiscal 2018/19, the department will work with the National Museum of Bermuda to publish and launch Bermudian historian Dr. Clarence Maxwell ’s completed manuscript entitled, Society of Prudent Men: Bermudians and the Age of Revolution. Dr. Maxwell’s research examines the social, economic, and political character of Bermudian activity in the A tlantic World during the Age of Rev olution, from 1774 to 1804. Bermuda Literary Awards . Madam Chairman, the Bermuda Literary Awards are administered by the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs once every five years to recognise excellence in Bermudian writing. The five existing cat egories of awards are fi ction, nonfiction, children and young adult fiction, poet-ry, and drama. In fiscal year 2018/19, two new categories of literary awards will be introduced. The prize for cultural merit offered for books or scripts that are notable for contributing to the preservation of Bermuda’s culture, heritage, folklife and/or history , and the founder’s prize offered for books or scripts published prior to the establishment of the Bermuda Literary Awards in 1999. The selected award winners in each category will each receive $2,000 cash award and a presentation in their honour. Business Unit 62180— Special Projects
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the fiscal year 2018/19 budget estimate for business unit 62180 is $100,000, a decrease of $74,000, or 42.5 per cent when compared with the revised estimate of $174,000 for fiscal year 2017/18. Madam Chairman, the increased allocation for fiscal year 2017/18, which will not be repeated for fi scal year 2018/19, supported a special project that enabled the Department of Community and Cultural A ffairs to facilitate Bermuda’s participation in the thi rteenth edition of the Caribbean Festival of the Arts, commonly known as CARIFESTA which was held in Barbados from the 17 th to the 27th of August 2017. This is in keeping with the department’s mandate to promote Bermuda’s rich cultural heritage and develop creative industries. The 2017 CARIFESTA festival theme was Asserting Our Culture, Celebrating OurBermuda House of Assembly selves which provided an opportunity to showcase Bermuda on the world stage. Madam Chairman, the Bermuda Government sponsored participation for more than 30 persons to participate in CARIFESTA XIII in Barbados in such performance areas as music, dance, storytelling, and theatre. The Department of Community and Cul tural Affairs also sent artwork produced by Bermuda’s premier visual artists including Dr. Edwin Smith, Dr. Charles Zuill, Alan Smith, James Cooper, Rhona Emmerson and others —and some of the Island’s outstanding and developing writers including Mrs. Floren z Webb- Maxwell, Yesha Townsend, and Chris Astwood. Madam Chairman, in fiscal year 2018/19, the department hopes to build upon the success of Ber-muda’s participation in CARIFESTA XIII by investing in special projects that will focus on the development of literary, fine , and performing artists. This will include engaging with these artists to determine the areas where the development of their marketability can be improved, particularly from the perspective of artists whose work can form a more focused and deliberate part of Bermudian cultural industries including cultural tourism.
Business Unit 62210—Gombey Festival Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, business unit 62210 is a new business unit with a budget est imate of $163,000 and is designed to facili tate expansion of the Bermuda International Gombey Festival. Madam Chairman, the Gombey Festival has been held annually to provide exposure to the folk art and traditions of the Gombey which is an important Bermudian icon. In fiscal year 2017/18, the pr ogramme was rebranded as the Bermuda International Gombey Festival and expanded to a full weekend of events and learning opportunities celebrating not only our Bermudian Gombey traditions, but also intern ational influences from across the diaspora. Madam Chairman, it is the department’s v ision that the Bermuda International Gombey Festival will evolve into an internationally known event attrac ting overseas troupes and visitors alike to our shores. The budget estimate for fiscal year 2018/19 will f inance the cost of travel and lodging for international troupes, event infrastructure, financial awards to participating Gombey troupes , and the chosen honouree for this year.
Programme 5203—Community Services
Business Unit 62100—Uncover the Arts Programme
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the budget estimate for this business unit in fiscal year 2018/19 is $190,000 which represents an increase of $18,000 over the original budget estimate for fiscal year 2017/18. Madam Chairman, the budget allocation u nder this business unit will allow the department to continue its partnership with the Bermuda Tourism A uthority to provide opportunities for both visitors and locals alike to discover and enjoy various aspects of Bermuda’s culture, arts , and entertainment. Some of these programmes include the Skirling Ceremony at Fort Hamilton with the Bermuda Island Pipe Band; Bermudian Cookery Demonstration with Chef Cheryl Kerr; the Bermudian Gombey Review at Pier 6 with the H & H Gombey Troupe; guided walking tours Hamilto n, Dockyard, and St. George’s; Folk Medicine: Yesterday and Today at the Botanical Gardens; and the Somerset Boat Tour of Mangrove Bay. Lectures on Bermuda’s history, culture, and traditions ; and Bermuda’s history with Prisoners of War are also offered. Funds allocated for this business unit are also used to pay vendors who host the listed talks, tours , and demonstrations , as well as cover the cost of advertising, rental fees for tents, sound systems, and sites.
Business Unit 62130— Senior Citizen Projects
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, $78,000 is allocated to this business unit for fiscal year 2018/19, $2,000 less than the original estimated budget for fiscal year 2017/18. The department continues to focus on allocating resources strategically and identifying areas of meaningful cultural programming and heritage preservation that otherwise is not served by existing community led programming or Government initiatives for senior citizens. Madam Chairman, the Department of Co mmunity and Cultural Aff airs is responsible for organi sing a variety of programmes and activities for our seniors. During fiscal year 2017/18, the department hos ted six cultural and educational events for seniors with the highlight being the annual Seniors Award lunc heon for 500 seniors to celebrate nominated seniors for their significant contributions made over the years. In alignment with this awards luncheon, a book was pr oduced of biographies of the lives of 23 outstanding seniors and made available to the public for no charge. The funds associated with this business unit will continue in fiscal year 2018/19 to provide culturally relevant and intellectually stimulating programmes and activities for Bermuda’s senior population.
Programme 5204—Community Education
Hon. Michael A . Weeks: Madam Chairman, as I alluded to earlier in my presentation, programme 5204, Community Education has been transferred to the Ministry of Education and Workforce Development. 1500 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Consequently, the budget estimate for this unit is shown as zero under Head 52 (see page B -256). Madam Chairman, I now turn to the subjective analysis for the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs found on page B -257. Salaries . Madam Chairman, the decrease of salaries of $540,000 is due to the transfer of the Community Education and Development Programme to the Ministry of Education and Workforce Development. Travel . Madam Chairman, the decrease in travel by $84,000, or 46 per cent, has occurred because travel increased in fiscal year 2017/18 for a specific project, CAR IFESTA XIII, which has now been completed. Advertising and Promotion. Madam Chairman, this decrease of $41,000, or 39 per cent, represents cost savings achieved by the department through the use of social media in advertising and promoting the department ’s events and programmes (see page B - 263). The decrease is also as a result of the transfer of the Community Education and Development Pr ogramme to the Ministry of Education and Workforce Development. Materials and Supplies . Madam Chairman, this decrease of $40,000 is also due to the transfer of the Community Education and Development Pr ogramme. Madam Chairman, the total estimate revenue for the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs for fiscal year 2018/19 is $6,000. Again, a decrease of $83,000 is a result of the reallocation of the Community Education and Development Programme to the Ministry of Education and Workforce Development. Madam Chairman, the full -time equivalent positions for fiscal year 2018/19 have been reduced from 15 to 8 in the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs due to the transfer of the Community E ducation and Development Programme to the Ministry of Education and Workforce Development (s ee page B-258). Madam Chairman, this concludes my presentation on the Budgetary Es timates for fiscal year 2018/19 for Head 52, the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs. However, before I move on I would like to thank the Director, Mrs. Heather Whalen, and all of the staff of the Department of Community and Cultural Affairs for t heir dedication, commitment, energy , and enthusiasm.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberHear, hear! Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Although not a large department, the staff work extremely hard and are committed to serve the public with excellence. That ends Head 52. HEAD 55 —DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, I will now present the Estimates of Expenditure and …
Hear, hear! Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Although not a large department, the staff work extremely hard and are committed to serve the public with excellence. That ends Head 52. HEAD 55 —DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, I will now present the Estimates of Expenditure and Revenue for Head 55, the Department of Financial Assistance, or DFA, for fiscal year 2018/19 which can be found on pages B -262 through B -265 of the Estimates Book. Madam Chairman, the mission of the Depar tment of Financial Assistance is to ensure that Berm udians with insufficient financial resources have access to services in order to gain, maintain, or regain a mi nimum standard of liv ing while encouraging personal and economic independence. T he objectives of the department are shown on page B262 of the Estimates Book. Madam Chairman, page B -263 shows that the current total expenditure for the Department of Financial Assistance for fis cal year 2018/19 is estimated to be $51,684,000. This represents a net decrease of $1,871,000, or 3 per cent, from the revised estimate for fiscal year 2017/18. The reason for this decrease will be discussed later. The fiscal year 2018/19 Budget will prov ide the financial basis for the Financial Assistance pr ogramme, which will enable eligible and qualified financial assistance clients to receive awards to maintain a basic standard of living for items including: • rental accommodations; • food; • utilities ; • HIP and FutureCare premiums; • rest home or nursing home care; • in-home care or adult day care; and • medical equipment, supplies, and medic ation. Funding will also sustain the Child Day Care Allowance Programme and provide for administrative and operational costs for the department. Madam Chairman, the department has two business units for which a general summary is contained on page B -263 of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure. These business units which will be discussed in order are 65050, G rant Administration; and 65080, General Administration.
Business Unit 65050—Grant Administration
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, the total estimate for this business unit for fiscal year 2018/19 is $48,512,000. This reflects a decrease of $1,892, 000, or 4 per cent, when compared with the revised estimate of fiscal year 2017/18 (s ee page B - 269). Madam Chairman, business unit 65050 has two components: grants to individuals (financial assistance programme proper ), and grants to organis ations. I will discuss these two categories of grant r ecipients separately.
Bermuda House of Assembly Organisational Grant Recipients
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Business unit 65050 i ncludes a total budget estimate for awards to approved individuals in the amount of $44,284,000 for fiscal year 2018/ 19. This represents a decrease of $1,492,000 compared with the fiscal year 2017/18 revised estimate of $45,776,000. Madam Chairman, the Department of Financial Assistance Programme is governed by the Financial Assistance Act 2001 and Financial Assistance Regulations 2004 and subsequent amendments. The department continues to assess persons based on the formula set out in the Financial Assi stance Regulations 2004. These regulations stipulate that the eligibility for an award will be established when the am ount of allowable expenses of the person exceeds the amount of qualifying household income of the person or household and the value of local and international investments owned by the person does not exceed $500 in the case of persons under the age of 65 and $5,000 for persons over the age of 65. Madam Chairman, the majority of persons r eceiving financial awards continues to be seniors and the disabled populations. Services and funding for seniors includes payments for rent, electricity, phone, gas, rest and nursing home fees, adult day care or in - home care medication, medical equipment and supplies. Madam Chairman, the following table indicates the number of seniors and/or pensioners on f inancial assistance and the corresponding total mont hly expenditure during December of each year for the past seven years. Summary of numbers of seniors and pensioners and total expenditure during the month of Dece mber from December 2011 to December 2017:
Year Pensioners Total Expenditure 2011 522 $1.036 million 2012 701 $1.349 million 2013 773 $1.522 million 2014 820 $1.681 million 2015 903 $1.909 million 2016 969 $2.003 million 2017 1,038 $2.069 million
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, these data illustrate that over the past seven years, from 2011 to 2017, both the number of seniors and/or pensioners receiving financial assistance and the corr esponding total, these data illustrate that over the past seven years from —I am getting tired. I believe I read that already —all right . . . these data illustrate that over the past seven years from 2011 to 2017 both the numbers of seniors and pensioners receiving financial assistance and the corresponding total expenditure to service this population has doubled. This growing trend of increasing numbers of seniors and pension-ers on financial assistance is expected to continue due to Bermuda’s ageing population and the inability of many persons to sustain a basic standard of living during their senior years. There were 1,038 seniors and pensioners serviced by the Depart ment of Financial Assistance in December 2017, the highest number on record. Sim ilarly, the department spent approximately $2,069,000 to service the seniors in December 2017. Again, the highest pay-out on record. Madam Chairman, currently 103 senior clients are in nursing homes and 84 are in rest homes. Eighty -seven senior clients live in Bermuda Housing Trust properties. The remaining seniors reside alone or with family members.
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Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Bear with me, Madam Chairman. I have a litt le cold. The remaining seniors reside alone or with family members. The monthly cost of rest home and nursing home care is $335,000 and $513,000 , respectively. Thus, a combined amount of $848,000 is paid out monthly for nursing home and rest home clients. This represents a decrease of $30,000 when compared with the previous year. Madam Chairman, in addition to assistance provided for rest and nursing home care the d epartment continues to support family members who qual ify to enable their senior relative to remain in the household. This benefit is called “ home care allo wance” and covers a cost of up to $2,000 monthly per client. This assistance continues to provide a muchneeded boost for seniors to spend time with their fam ilies and to remain in their own homes or those of their loved ones. Currently, the department on an average pays out $40,000 per month for home care service. This is a decrease of $6,000 per month compared to the previous year. Madam Chairman, this decrease is attributed to three factors. The first factor is the establishment of maximum payments for the various levels of in- home care required by clients. The current fees for in- home care paid out by the department are $15 per hour for personal caregivers or companions; $25 per hour for nursing assistants or aids; and $75 per hour for services provided by a registered nurse. Madam Chairman, the second factor for the decrease is that many seniors who previously were able to remain in their own homes and receive care there can no longer remain at home due to declining health conditions which require that they be admitted to the hospital or placed in either a rest or nursing home. Madam Chairman, the third factor is that some costs for home care are now being absorbed by the Health Insuranc e Department as the first payee. 1502 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Chairman, notwithstanding the decrease in pay-out for home care service, the demand for home care service is likely to continue as there are many seniors who require care who cannot be accepted into a rest or nursing home due to the lack of beds, i.e., insufficient capacity. Madam Chairman, as of December 2017 there were 840 disabled persons receiving assistance. This is a decrease of 8 disabled clients over the same period last year. Disabilities can range from short - term/temporary to long- term/permanent and can be of a physical nature and/or due to mental health chal-lenges. The d epartment spent $1,364,000 to service persons with disabilities in December 2017. Madam Chairman, the d epartment also pays for the FutureCare insurance for all eligible senior cl ients. Currently, the monthly rate for each senior client is $500.14. HIP insurance is provided for all clients under the age of 65 at a current cost per client of $429.24 monthly. The amount paid out for health i nsurance at these rates currently totals some $776,000 monthly. This is a decrease of $58,000 over the same period last year. Madam Chairman, the cost of medication for the Department of Financial Assistance clients is in excess of $124,669 monthly , or $1,4 96,000 yearly. Madam Chairman, the cost of the health care for ageing baby boomers continues to be a challenge for governments worldwide. The Department of F inancial Assistance continues to work in tandem with the Health Insurance Department and the Mini stry of Health to examine strategies that will help to reduce the costs of servicing this population. Madam Chairman, over the last several years there has been a gradual increase of able- bodied u nemployed and earnings low persons applying for f inancial assistance. During 2017, the total number of clients serviced per month ranged from a low of 2,618 and a high of 2,749. It is projected that the demand for financial assistance will continue a similar trend in the fiscal year 2018/19. Madam Chairman, the c ombined financial assistance pay-out for able- bodied unemployed and earnings low clients averaged just over $651,000 per month during the three- month period from October to December 2017. This compared with an average pay - out of just over $1,045,000 per month for the same three- month period in 2016, a decrease of $394,000. Madam Chairman, for purposes of historical comparison, financial assistance total monthly ex-penditure for fiscal year 2017/18 was $11,509,000 in the first quarter; in the second quarter, $11,003,000 and a slight decrease in the third quarter, $10,760,000. Madam Chairman, the average number of clients per month in the combined categories of seniors and disabled persons in 2016 was 1,807, whilst the average number of seniors and disabled i n 2017 was 1,867, representing an overall increase of 60 seniors and disabled persons combined. Similarly, Madam Chairman, the monthly payout for the combined categories of seniors and persons with disabilities over the three- month period O ctober to Dec ember 2017 averaged $3,426,000 repr esenting a decrease of about $16,000 over the average pay-out for the same two categories in the same three- month time period in 2016. This pattern of decrease is not expected to continue. In descending order, the highes t items of e xpenditure for monthly pay -outs are as follows: 1) Rental accommodations. Monthly rental accommodations paid on behalf of clients had reached $1,256,000 in the first quarter of fiscal year 2017/18. Significant steps have been taken by the Department of Financial Assistance via policy chang-es to decrease the number of applicants desiring to move into rental accommodations and not having a means to contribute to the costs of the rental unit. As a result, in the third quarter of fiscal year 2017/18 the average rental pay -out was $1,155,000 representing a monthly savings of $101,437. 2) Rest and Nursing Home Fees . In December 2017, the combined pay -out for rest and nursing home fees on a monthly basis was $848,000. Com-pared to the pay -out 12 months prior to this, it is a decrease of $30,000 as discussed previously. 3) Insurance Premiums . This is a combination of the cost for FutureCare which is for the clients who are seniors , and HIP for the persons under the age of 65 and those with private insur ance of which the d epartment pays up to the amount of either FutureCare or HIP and medical insurance. In December 2017, the monthly pay-out for insurance premiums was $776,000. 4) Food. In December 2017, the cost of food was $412,000 monthly, which is a r eduction of $4,000 compared to December 2016. Madam Chairman, all able -bodied applicants are referred to the Department of Workforce Deve lopment for registration prior to becoming a client with the Department of Financial Assistance. This requir ement encourages Financial Assistance clients to begin the process of job readiness in order to be in receipt or receiving a financial award, and where necessary clients may also be referred to the team social wor kers for life skills and money management training. Madam Chairman, to further encourage our able- bodied clients to reduce the length of time they are dependent on Financial Assistance, the d epartment launched its community service components in July 2014. The aim of this component is to encourage networki ng and make able- bodied unemployed and low earning clients more work ready by providing service to numerous charities across the Island while still being in receipt of a financial award. Able- bodied cl ients are expected to provide up to 15 hours of communi ty service after being on assistance for a period
Bermuda House of Assembly of at least three months and are required to complete five job searches weekly. Clients who are not yet i nvolved with the community service component are required to complete 12 job searches weekly. Currently there is a three- month community service rotation amongst community partners. As more stakeholders are secured, the length of community service may increase. Madam Chairman, the d epartment will recruit a full -time community service coordinator in 2018 to expand this initiative. The Department of Financial Assistance will continue to maintain a working rel ationship with the Department of Workforce Development, other Government agencies and nongovernmental agencies with a view to increasing and enhancing collaboration in empowering able- bodied financial assistance clients to seek and find gainful employment. Madam Chairman, the ultimate goal is to decrease the client’s dependence for assistance or to eliminate the need altogether. The Child Day Care All owance Programme, Madam Chairman, business unit 65050, also includes the child day care allowance programme in the amount of $3,400,000 for fiscal year 2018/19. This amount remains unchanged from the previous year (see page C -19). Madam Chairman, the chil d day care allo wance programme was officially launched in November 2008 and is governed by the Child Day Care Allo wance Act 2008 and the Child Day Care [Allowance] Regulations 2008. Most parents on the programme remain single, employed, and with two childr en or less in a registered or licens ed child day care environment. Persons applying for receipt of the child day care allowance together with the child must be registered as status Bermudians. This status is determined by the Department of Immigration and does not benefit nonBermudians or PRC holders. The child must also r eside with the applicant at the time of application and be between the ages of 0 to 4. Madam Chairman, the Child Day Care Allo wance programme eligibility criteria differs from that of the Financial Assistance programme in that a person’s eligibility is only centred on the total salary or wage of the applicant, or applicants. The established income threshold is $55,000 per annum. Child maintenance payments are not factored as income during the assessment. Parents or guardians of children in the Child Day Care Allowance programme are working, attending school, or looking for employment. They must conduct job searches if they are unemployed. Madam Chairman, during fiscal year 2017/18 the number of applicants for this programme averaged over 184 families and 203 children benefited. The average monthly award per child is approximately $797. Madam Chairman, from inception the monthly expenditure for the Child Day Care Allowance pr o-gramme has ranged from about $200,000 to about $340,000. Abuse, misuse and fraud continue to be committed by a small margin of Financial Assistance clients. The department’s Anonymous Hotline, 297 - STOP (or 7867), which was established in January of 2014 for persons to report suspected cases of abuse of the system continues to work well. Madam Chai rman, during fiscal year 2017/18 to date, there were 34 calls made to 297- STOP. Of these calls, 32 have been investigated. Of the 32 calls investigated, 28 have been confirmed as fraud. Two calls remain under investigation. The department’s investigative offi cers recovered $62,000 is fiscal year 2016/17, com-pared to $57,000 recovered in fiscal year 2017/18. Total spending for the first quarter of fiscal year 2017/18 was approximat ely $12,485,000. This amount was approximately 23 per cent of the allocated budget for fiscal year 2017/18, which includes the pay-out for the Financial Assistance programme and the Child Day Care Allowance programme only. Madam Chairman, spending for the second quarter of fi scal year 2017/18 was approximately $11,523,000. When both quarters are combined, the current total expenditure is approximately 44 per cent of the allotted budget for fiscal year 2017/18. Madam Chairman, the September 2017 Speech from Throne stated that Government will undertake a review of the Financial Assistance pr ogramme and reform financial assistance to reduce abuse, discourage dependency, and ensures that work pays. In order to progress this Throne Speech initiative, the then- Minister of Social Development and Sports appointed a Financial Assistance Reform group, headed by Permanent Secretary Wayne Carey, in November of 2017. The group continues to meet and it is expected that the reform exercise will lead to cost savings of at l east $1.5 million, which will help to offset the reduction in budgetary allocation for the department in fiscal year 2018/19. The Financial Assistance Reform group is examining a wide range of legislative policy and admi nistrative measures designed to achieve the Throne Speech initiative and will conclude its deliberations in March 2017. At the same time the Department of F inancial Assistance will continue to focus on strategies for reducing overall expenditure and on internal pol icies and strategies to ensure that clients benefit from enhanced in- house services as well as available outreach services to minimise financial hardship. Organisational grant recipients. Madam Chairman, business unit 65050, includes funding for organisational grant recipients at t he level of $828,000. In fiscal year 2018/19 this amount has been allotted for pay -outs in quarterly instalments of $207,000 to five organisations, [which are]: Care of the Blind; Meals on Wheels; Supportive Therapy for persons with AIDS and their Relatives (STAR); Teen 1504 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Haven; and the Salvation Army, with respect to the Emergency Housing Shelter on North Street. I will now provide a breakdown of the organisational grant funding as shown on page C -19 of the Estimates Book. Madam Chairman, in fiscal year 2018 /19, $30,000, has been allocated to Care of the Blind. And $48,000 was allocated for Meals on Wheels. Both allocations remain the same at fiscal year 2017/18. The organisational grants for STAR and Teen Haven are $150,000, and $200,000, respectiv ely. Madam Chairman, the redevelopment of the Bishop Spencer facility on Glebe Road to create a new emergency housing centre has not commenced. Accordingly, the Salvation Army grant with respect to increased social programming has been reduced from $800,000 to $400, 000 for fiscal year 2018 /19. Of note is the fact that STAR and Teen Haven received an additional monthly financial award based on the number of clients who are in need of residential services within those organisations. This award is paid monthly at a rate not exceeding $1,500 per client. Business unit 65080, General Administration. Madam Chairman, the total estimate for business unit 65080 for fiscal year 2018 /19 is $3,172 ,000. A s per the subjective analysis on page B -263, the largest expenditure in this business unit is salaries, which is $2,948,000 that has been allocated in fiscal year 2018 /19. This is an increase of 1 per cent. This is due to an increase in acting pay to give staff the opportunity to enhance their skills and expand their experience whilst a new director has been recruited. The employee count for fiscal year 2018/19 remains at 34. Madam Chairman, members of staff of the Department of Financial Assistance are currently r esponsible for caseloads exceeding 230 clients per caseworker. As per best practice, this amount exceeds an acceptable number of caseload per cas eworker , which is more in line with 100 to 125 cases. The work performed by the staff involves collection and careful review and analysis of various types of documents in order t o complete a full assessment of each client. Clients are processed in a very efficient manner to ensure files and needs assessments are a pproved on a weekly basis and in accordance with the department’s policies and procedures. The work performed by the s taff is extremely challenging, demanding and growing in complexity which requires to pay close attention to detail when evaluating clients. Madam Chairman, the department has been allocated $84,000 for capital acquisitions, as per page C-13 of the Estimat es Book. This funding is required for staff office furniture, carpet replacement, and an upgrade and monitoring of the department’s software system. The system upgrade is required to ensure that the FASS [ system ] can interface with the E -1 sys-tem and other networks associated with the pr ocessing of payment for financial assistance clients. Madam Chairman, due to budgetary constraints, a 33 per cent reduction in funds for staff trai ning has been made in fiscal year 2018/19. (See page B-263.) Madam Chairman, $300,000 was reallocated to the Department of National Drug Control to allow them to provide a grant to FOCUS treatment facility services. The reallocation of funds is to provide a grant to Focus to assist them in their continued service to assist member s of our community during the stages of drug recovery. Madam Chairman, explanations for p erformance measures as found on page B -265 will now follow: • To provide financial awards to 100 per cent of our new financial assistance clients within 10 working days . In fiscal year 2017/18, the Department of F inancial Assistance is expected to be at least 90 per cent successful in providing clients with financial assistance within 10 working days. The process begins with an applicant applying for pre- screening at th e department on day one. During a pre- screen interview the applicant is informed of documents that they will need to submit in order to create a file for asses sment. Required documents can include: picture ident ification, such as a passport bank statement; medical certificate; and relevant bills, for example, BELCO or BTC [Bermuda Telephone Company]. The onus is on the applicant to submit the required documents on a timely basis. Madam Chairman, once all documents have been submitted then a file is created and vetted by the pre-screen manager. If all documents are in place, then an appointment is made with the financial assi stance worker to assess the case. This process is ge nerally completed within seven to ten days. As mentioned, the d epartment expects to attain a performance rating of 90 per cent for this performance measure. It must be emphasi sed that a 100 per cent performance rating is dependent on applicants retur ning all required documents within a timely manner. • To aw ard grants to charitable organis ations within 30 days of receiving request ed documents. Madam Chairman, all organis ational grant r ecipients must submit a letter of request along with quarterly financial statements requesting a quarterly grant allotment. Once received, the information is r eviewed by the Director of Financial Assistance, and if all information is correct request for payment is approved. The numbers of grantees will remain at five due to the transfer of administrative responsibilities for grant payments to the Ministry of Health for three organisations. • To provide awards to 100 per cent of the day care providers by the last day of month before they are due.
Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Chairman, documents submitted by parents or guardians of children in the Child Day Care Allowance programme are assessed on a quarterly basis. Once a financial assistance worker has made an assessment, the financial assistance manager will either approve or reject payment. Approvals for all day care payments are made directly to the day care pr oviders. This is genera lly done every three months and payments are made on the first of each month within that three- month period. • To ensure that all 33 employees successfully complete at least one relevant training course per year. Madam Chairman, all Financial Assistance employees have not successfully completed this goal as either the course they requested was cancelled or they were unable to attend relevant training due to their high caseloads. • To complete 700 site visits for Financial Assi stance clients during the year. Madam Chairman, the Department of Financial Assistance aims to complete at least one home visit each calendar year for all new clients. However, with the increasing number of new cases, Financial Assistance workers are unable to make the desired amount of home visits. Although prospective clients may not be seen in the calendar year in which they become a client, they are seen shortly thereafter. Madam Chairman, in closing my presentation on Financial Assistance, and in the face of continuing challenges for the department, I would like to acknowledge the staff of the Department of Financial Assistance and express my appreciation for their commitment, dedication, and for the efficient manner in which they serve the Bermudian public. Madam Chairman, this ends my presentation on the fiscal year 2018/19 budgetary allocation for Head 55, the Department of Financial Assistance.
HEAD 88 —DEPARTMENT FOR NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, I will now present the fiscal year 2018/19 current accounts est imate for Head 88, the Department for National Drug Control, which can be found starting on page B -266 of the Estimates Book. In fiscal year 2018/19 the d epartment has been allocated the sum of $4,511,000, which is an increase of $332,000, or 8 per cent compared to that allocated in fiscal year 2017/18. The increase mainly represents the re- instatement of a grant to Focus Counselling Services of $300,000, and salary i ncreases due to the re- grading of posts. Madam Chairman, the Department for N ational Drug Control plays a key role in the Ministry of Social Development and Sports with respect to addressing one of the foremost social issues affecting Bermuda today —substance misuse and abuse. Under the National Drug Control Act 2013, the Department for National Drug Control provides leadership and po licy coordination for the planning, development, i mplementation, and evaluation of a comprehensive n ational system of alcohol, tobacco and other drug [ATOD ] prevention, treatment and rehabilitation services. In its leadership role, the Department for N ational Drug Control is charged with facilitating collabo-ration with all agencies involved in the national drug control effort, including supply reduction and demand reduction efforts. The department is also r esponsible for establishing targets and standards of performance for initiatives supporting the National Drug Control Master Plan. Consequently, the mission of the d epartment is to lead efforts to reduce alcohol abuse and drug misuse. The strategic goal of the department is to advocate for the adoption of effective measures to support substance abuse prevention and treatment of drug dependence on the Island and the employment of a balanced approach to supply and demand reduction efforts. In support of the strategic goals, the d epartment’s strategic objectives are as follows: (a) Guided by the National Drug Control Act 2013 and the National Drug Control Master Plan, the department is responsible for coordinating the development, management, implementation, a nd the monitoring and evaluation of all national level drug control efforts including the formulation and implementation of national drug control policies and national strategies (Master Plan), incorporating supply and demand r eduction activities through a balanced interage ncy/departmental approach. (b) To strengthen and develop sustainable drug prevention and drug treatment services by providing policy direction and technical oversight guided by the National Drug Abuse Prevention and Treatment Strategies. (c) To continue the development and maint enance of the national drug information n etwork (Bermuda Drug Information Network, or better known as BerDIN) to provide comprehensive information on the drugs phenomenon in Bermuda and drug- related i ssues affecting specific community groups and the overall society . (d) To provide support, advocacy, and r esources to stakeholder m inistries , departments, and community partners to enhance efforts in achieving goals identified in the National Drug Control Strategy. Madam Chairman, the Department for N ational Drug Control manages and administers both grant funds to partner agencies providing prevention and treatment services, as well as a budget for core administration functions, drug prevention, drug treatment, community development and, research/policy initiatives. Funds are also allocated to assist in the implementation of the National Drug Control Master Plan and its action plans. 1506 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Chairman, the department employs 27 staff. The d epartment al headquarters is present ly staffed by a director, five technical officers and one full-time administrative staff. Direct staffing support to the Nelson Bascome [Centre for Substance Abuse] Treatment facility is provided by one t reatment coordinator that oversee s both the male and female reside ntial treatment programmes along with 19 clinical staff (clinical coordinators, addiction counsellors, junior addiction counsellors and addiction counsellor techn icians) and support posts ( administrative assistant, cook and maintenance) currently assigned to the Women’s Treatment Centre and Men’s Treatment programme. There are currently two vacancies within the treatment programmes that are in active recrui tment. Madam Chairman, I am pleased to provide an analysis by business unit of the budget estimates for the Department for National Drug Control for fiscal year [2018/ 19 compared to fiscal year ] 2017/ 18. Madam Chairman, since I am talking about the BerDIN report, I am asking for leave to be able to read some research that I did over the lunch [break.] During this morning’s Question Period, there was a misrepresentation of facts. I just need to . . . The Department of National Drug Control . . . and it was a misrepresentation of facts from the Honourable Member of constituency 25, Honourable Member Baron. The Department of National Drug Control [NDC] advises that it currently does not collect information on marijuana- related psychosis and juveniles because it has not been specified as one of the standard indic ators collected by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime [UNODC] of which Bermuda is aligned. Therefore, this information is not in the 2017 BerDIN report.
The ChairmanChairmanOne second. Will you yield to a point of clarification? Carry on. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Jeff BaronThank you. I thank the Honourable Minister. My comments this morning were regarding the comments from the Member for constituency 22 about the amount of . . . those persons who were arrested for cannabis, not the induced psychosis. So if there was a confusion, I apologise. It was regarding …
Thank you. I thank the Honourable Minister. My comments this morning were regarding the comments from the Member for constituency 22 about the amount of . . . those persons who were arrested for cannabis, not the induced psychosis. So if there was a confusion, I apologise. It was regarding the information about how many arrests, et cetera, were for cannabis; not induced psychosis. I appreciate those, as the Minist er will know, as the former Me mber for National Security, I —
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. We have got it covered.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, carry on. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Chairman, I have a point of order and clarifi cation as well. The Honourable Member who just took his seat, Mr. Baron, and his colleague from . . . I don’t know . . . Susan Jackson . . . …
Minister, carry on.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Chairman, I have a point of order and clarifi cation as well. The Honourable Member who just took his seat, Mr. Baron, and his colleague from . . . I don’t know . . . Susan Jackson . . . both of them requested to . . . whether or not the juveniles or children names would be . . . what would happen w ith their names. So I just want to make clear —
The ChairmanChairmanWhat is your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Jeff BaronHe is misleading the House and Ha nsard will show that.
The ChairmanChairmanCarry o n, Member. [Inaudible interjections]
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, carry on. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For the Hansard, I need to finish reading—
The ChairmanChairmanCarry on, Minister, you may complete it. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. I will start from the beginning for the sake of Hansard. The NDC advises that it currently does not collect information on marijuana- related psychosis and juveniles because it has not been specified as one of the standard …
Carry on, Minister, you may complete it.
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. I will start from the beginning for the sake of Hansard. The NDC advises that it currently does not collect information on marijuana- related psychosis and juveniles because it has not been specified as one of the standard indicators collected by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime [UNODC] of which Bermuda is aligned. Therefore, this information is not in the 2017 BerDIN report. Such information may be available from Bermuda Hospitals Board or through scientific research. The department does collect i nformation from Bermuda Hospitals Board related to inpatient and emergency room cannabis abuse and dependents, but this information is not related to ps ychosis. It is found on pages 82- 95 of the 2017 BerDIN report. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As I continue, Mr. Chairman, the Department for National Drug Control manages and administers both grant funds to partner agencies providing preven-tion and treatment services, as well as a budget for core administration functions, drug prevention, drug
Bermuda House of Assembly treatment, community development and, r esearch/policy initiatives. Funds are also allocated to assist in the implementation of the National Drug Control Master Plan and its action plans. Mr. Chairman, the department employs 27 staff. The d epartment al headquarters is presently staffed by a d irector, —
The ChairmanChairmanMember, what head and cost [centre] are you speaking from? I am trying to follow you, that’s all. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: It is Head 88.
The ChairmanChairmanHead 88. Yes. And what unit? Are you on [page] B -268? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I am on–
The ChairmanChairmanYou are talking about the staff nu mbers. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes.
The ChairmanChairmanOkay. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: And I started from page B - 266.
The ChairmanChairmanContinue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, t he department employs 27 staff. The d epartment al headquarters is presently staffed by a director , five technical officers and one full-time administrative staff. Direct staffing support to the Nelson Bascome [Centre for Substance Abuse] Treat ment facility …
Continue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, t he department employs 27 staff. The d epartment al headquarters is presently staffed by a director , five technical officers and one full-time administrative staff. Direct staffing support to the Nelson Bascome [Centre for Substance Abuse] Treat ment facility is provided by one tr eatment coordinator that overseas both the male and female reside ntial treatment programmes along with 19 clinical staff (clinical coordinators, addiction counsellors, junior addiction counsellors and addiction counsellor techn icians) . There are currently two vacancies within the treatment programmes that are in active recruitment , Mr. Chairman. I am pleased to provide an analysis by business unit of the budget estimates for the Depar tment for National Drug Control for fi scal year 2018/ 19 compared to fiscal year 2017/ 18. Administration, 98000, page B -266. Mr. Chairman, the comparative figures between 2017/18 versus 2018/19, the original estimate for 2017/18 was $978,000. The estimate for 2018/19 was $1,278,000. [This is] an increase of $300,000, or 31 per cent. Administration provides the organis ational framework in support of the mission and mandate of the department. Its resources are aimed primarily at recurrent expenditures and Grants and Contributions to the treatment and prevention partners that provide services for and on behalf of the d epartment. The Administration allocation of $1,278,000 represents a 31 per cent increase from the 2017/18 allocation and primarily reflects the re- instatement of a Grant to Focus Counselling Services. The budget c overs employee salaries and other operational expenses (facilities, utilities, maintenance costs, supplies and training), as well as grants. As shown on page C -20 (Grants and Contributions) grants for key stakeholders totals $783,000 in fiscal year 2018/19, and will support PRIDE, Salvation Army, CADA, Focus Counselling Services, and Bermuda Addiction Certification Board. The Department for National Drug Control is established in part as a service delivery unit but can-not prov ide all of the needed services required within the community. The Department for National Drug Control depends greatly on purchasing services in the treatment and prevention areas through grant alloc ations to reali se its mandate. PRIDE provides evidenced- based life skills programming within some of the primary school levels to support drug education and drug prevention; Salv ation Army provides residential drug treatment and community life skills programming for 10 males; and Focus Counselling provides trans itional/supportive housing for up to 28 recovering males who have par-ticipated in primary drug treatment at any treatment facility ( prison, hospital, inpatient or outpatient services) to assist in re -integrating them back into the community as productive c itizens, thus improving treatment outcomes. The highlighted agencies have provided an integral part of the drug prevention and drug treatment continuum of services for Bermuda for many decades in collaboration with the Department for National Drug Control. Community Development, 98010, on page B - 266. Mr. Chairman, the original estimate of 2017/18 is $267,000. The estimate for 2018/19 is $267,000. The increase/decrease is zero dollars, so no percentage movement. Mr. Chairman, t he allocation to Community Development, business unit 98010, is $267,000 , which is the same as the allocation in fiscal year 2017/18. Funding is allocated to facilitate activities that are primarily targeted towards public education, community development, information dissemination and to support the grant to the Council on Alcohol and Drug Abuse ( known as CADA) . (See page C-20, Grants and Contributions .) The goal of this unit is to educate the public about the harms of alcohol and drug use; to ensure the provision of clear and sustaine d messages to our young people that “no use of alcohol, tobacco or other drugs is acceptable” and to involve families, schools and community organi sations in alcohol/drug prevention efforts. CADA works in collaboration with the Depar tment for National Drug Control to provide community 1508 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly education on alcohol misuse as well as to provide the server training programme (TIPS) which is mandated within the Liquor Licence Amendment Act 2011 [sic]. A grant of $100,000.00 is allocated to CADA to support these activiti es. Other initiatives for the Community Development unit are to assist highlighting drunk or drug dri ving and road safety initiatives through public education and to continue awareness campaigns directed at u nderage drinking, adolescent drug use and emergi ng drugs, such as fentanyl. Moving on to Prevention, Mr. Chairman. Bus iness unit 98020, also on page B -266. And it is the 2017/18 versus the 2018/19 comparative numbers. The original estimate in 2017/18 was $220,000. The estimate for 2018/19 is $224,000, w hich is an i ncrease of $4,000, or a 2 per cent [increase]. Mr. Chairman, an allocation of $224,000 is provided to support the efforts of the Prevention Unit in business unit 98020. The 2 per cent increase re presents a salary increase due to salary increments. Funds in this business unit are utili sed to improve coverage of drug prevention measures within the community, to improve opportunities for school -based prevention interventions, and to increase access for young people to targeted prevention programmes . Funding is also utili sed to support the implementation of a National School Drug Policy and for training Pr evention professionals and community members to support drug prevention efforts. The Prevention Unit facilitates the Teen Peace programme operating in five public schools and also supports the implementation and integration of the Al’s Pals p rogramme at the preschool and primary 1-2 levels. Funding is allocated within the business unit to support facilitators and to purchase resources to sustain thes e programmes. Mr. Chairman, the Teen Peace programme includes the utilization of the Bot vin Life Skills [Training] drug prevention curriculum along with Adventure Education. Both are evidenced- based programmes with proven positive outcomes among students for making healthy choices. The programme saw 50 st udents participate over the 2017 school year across five public schools. Efforts to expand participation are limited by funding allocations. Mr. Chairman, the Al ’s Pals programme has continued in collaborati on with the Department of E ducation, with the majority of public and private preschool teachers and P1 and P2 teachers in the public schools, providing the programme in their classrooms. Al’s Pals is also an evidenced- based programme with research supporti ng positive outcomes for children at this age level. Approximately 650 students have participated in the programme during the 2017 school year, an increase over the previous school year. The Department for National Drug Control is committed towards continued collaboration and support for the Al’s Pals programme with the Department of Educ a-tion, and funds initial training, refresher courses and resources/supplies for all educators implementing the programme. Mr. Chairman, parents in recovery are faced with a multitude of challenges as they prepare to a ddress the needs of their children who have been wit hout a worthy parent role model during their active use of substances. This has caused a breakdown in the family thus affecting children. As a result, the Depar tment for National Drug Control has focused on deve loping skill sets for person in recovery through the Parents ’ Toolshop education programme which is designed to encourage persons to develop their communication skills and set goals in building a benefic ial relationship with their children. To date this pr ogramme has engaged 24 recovering persons. (That is excellent!) Mr. Chairman, Treatment, business unit 98030, also on page B -266. The comparative between 2017/18 versus 2018/19. The original estimate for 2017/18 was $397,000. The estimate for 2018/19 is $405,000, which is an increase of $8,000, or a 2 per cent increase. Mr. Chairman, the Treatment Unit, business unit 98030, is allocated $405,000 in fiscal year 2018/19, a 2 per cent increase compared to the prev ious year. The increase is directly related to the r egrading of a post. The Treatment Unit funding alloc ation is used to facilitate the implementation of key activities geared towards achieving the goals of the N ational Treatment Strategy, including Commission on Accreditation of Rehabilitation Facilities (CARF) ac-creditation fees and resources; addiction specific training and the AccuC are client management system licences and training. Funds are also allocated to support the grant for the Bermuda Add iction Certific ation Board (BACB) . (See page C- 20, Grants and Contributions .) In fiscal year 2018/19, focus will remain on maintaining CARF accreditation for the Men’s Treat-ment programme, the Women’s Treatment Centre and Turning Point (operated by Bermu da Hospitals Board) as required by the National Drug Control Act 2013. All of these programmes have maintained the “gold star” CARF accreditation status throughout fiscal year 2017/18. CARF accreditation is spearheaded and funded by the Department for Nati onal Drug Control Island- wide. Mr. Chairman, in conjunction with accredit ation, the registration of all treatment services prior to official licensing in accordance with the National Drug Control Act 2013 is in progress. The development and implementation of supporting processes (application process , fees, et cetera) will be implemented through regulations under the Act. Efforts will also continue to consolidate the use of the AccuCare client management system in all drug treatment programmes across the I sland to assist in standardi sed, best practice care.
Bermuda House of Assembly Grant funding provided to the Bermuda Addi ction Certification Board (BACB) provides international certification testing for both prevention and treatment professionals locally, funding to support addicti onspecific training to enhance workforce development in this specialty area, supports recertification of professionals, and helps to maintain membership in the I nternational Certification & Reciprocity Consortium (IC&RC). Certification is required for registration of addiction counsellors to practice under the Allied Health Professions Act 1973. Mr. Chairman, Research and Policy Development, business unit 98050, located on page B -266. The comparative between 2017/18 and 2018/19 is thus: The original estim ate for 2017/18 was $305,000. The estimate for 2018/19 is $290,000. There has been a decrease of $15,000, or a 5 per cent [decrease]. Mr. Chairman, the Research and Policy D evelopment Unit, business unit 98050, has an alloc ation of $290,000, a 5 per cent d ecrease in its alloc ation from the previous fiscal year. The 5 per cent decrease represents a salary reduction due to the r egrading of posts. Funding in this cost code is used to facilitate information gathering and analysis, monitoring and evaluation, as well as any relevant legislation and po licy development initiatives prioriti sed within the department and/or Ministry. The primary activities of the Research unit are geared towards collection and dissemination of reli able data through the Bermuda Nationa l Drug Information Network (BerDIN), identifying emerging trends and patterns of drug use, evaluation of the current drug control efforts, and providing coordination, i mplementation and evaluation of the National Drug Control Master Plan and Action Plan. During fiscal year 2018/19, a Green Paper on Policies to reduce Drug Abuse, which is a 2017 Throne Speech initiative, will be completed. In addition, the 2016/ 17 National Master Plan will be eval uated prior to the creation of the next five- year plan. Mr. C hairman, the annual Bermuda Drug I nformation Network (BerDIN) meeting was held with all Network members on October 26 th and 27th, 2017. This annual event has greatly increased collaboration, understanding and information sharing between all agencies involv ed in demand and supply reduction activities. The 2017 Annual Report of the Bermuda Drug Information Network (BerDIN) was released to the public at the end of October 2017. The report of the 2017 National Household Survey on Drug Use and Health A mong the A dult Population in Bermuda was released to the public in August 2017. Consumer satisfaction surveys, stak eholder feedback surveys and quality records reviews were completed within the Department for National Drug Control, Women’s Treatment [Centre] , Men’s Treatment programme and the Right Living House operated under the Department of Corrections; data collection has also taken place for the Drug Abuse Monitoring Programme [DAMP] within the p risons in 2017/18 fiscal year. Men’s Treatment, business unit 98060, also found on page B -266, Mr. Chairman. A comparative between fiscal year 2017/18 versus the fiscal year 2018/19 is as follows: the original estimate for 2017/18 was $874,000. The estimate for 2018/19 is $885,000, an increase of $11,000, a 1 per cent i ncrease. Mr. Chairman, t he Men’s Treatment pr ogramme, business unit 98060, was allocated $885,000, a 1 per cent increase from the previous fiscal year. The slight increase is due to increase in salaries due to the regrading of posts. The funding allocation provides the operational and staffing cost required to provide outputs to meet the treatment/ rehabilitative needs and goals of adult males needing residential treatment at the Ne lson Bascome [Centre for Substance Abuse] Treatment facility . The Men’s Treat ment programme is a r esidential treatment programme for m en in Bermuda. It provides long- term, comprehensive primary treatment for addiction disorders. The programme’s primary treatment is delivered over a 12- month period using a phased approach. During the last phase, a transition plan is developed which includes participating in vo lunteer services, job shadowing, and referral to trans itional supportive residency program and/or after -care services. This programme was accredited by CARF for the period 2016 to 2019, with the “gold star” accreditation award of three years. The Women’s Treatment Centre, Mr. Chai rman, business unit 98070, found on page B -266. The comparative between fiscal year 2017/18 versus fiscal year 2018/19, the original estimate for 2017/18 was $1,103,000. The estimate for 2018/19 is $1,127,000, this is an increase of $24,000, or a 2 per cent i ncrease. Mr. Chairman, t he Women’s Treatment Ce ntre, business unit 98070, has been allocated $1,127,000 for the 2018/19 fiscal year; a 2 per cent increase over the previous fiscal year. The 2 per cent increase represents salary increases due to the r egrading of posts. The funding allocation provided is utili sed to meet the outputs and needs of women in residential substance abuse treatment. The Women’ s Treatment Centre provides both residential treatment for women at the Nelson Bascome [Centre for Substance Abuse] Treatment facility , as well as supportive residency at a separate site. The Women’s Treatment Centre is the only residential treatment facility for women in Berm uda. It provides long- term, comprehensive treatment for addiction and related disorders. 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Bermuda House of Assembly enables the client to reach short -term goals and cel ebrate accomplishments and develop stronger internal locus of control. Community involvement and re- entry is gradual and includes a partnership with local bus inesses and organi sations to facilitate volunteerism in our clients. The supportive residency facility and pr ogramme allows a safe environment for the reintegration of women back into the community who have completed a programme of substance abuse treatment at the Women’s Treatment Centre, or who are accepted by the Women’ s Treatment Centre. All transitional clients are females who have been drug free for at least one year. The programme is managed by the Women’s Treatment Centre and is located within the general community. The Women’s Treatment Centre programme has been ac credited by CARF since 2009 and currently has a “gold star” i nternational accreditation ranking for the period 2017– 2020. Mr. Chairman, the National Drug Control Master Plan, business unit 98080. You can find that on page B -302. The comparative with fiscal year 2017/18 versus fiscal year 2018/19. The original estimate for 2017/18 is $35,000. The estimate for 2018/19 is $35,000. There is no increase, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, business unit 98080 is in place to provide for the effective implementation of the N ational Drug Control Master Plan; cross -ministry initiatives with the P olice [Service] , [Department of] Cu stoms and [the Department of] Corrections; evaluation of the Master Plan and to encourage cooperation and involvement of other government departm ents and civil society in the implementation of the Master Plan initiatives. This business unit has been allocated $35,000 in fiscal year 2018/19, the same as the prev ious fiscal year. Funding has been used for training for police officers and the government analyst with r espect to fentanyl; for the provision of training for finan-cial intelligence agency [FIA] officers as it relates to money laundering and for public information campaigns warning the public about fentanyl. (It is a very dangerous drug, Mr. Chairman.) Funding allocated in fiscal year 2018/19 will be used to ensure the completion of the evaluation and renewal of the next five-year National Drug Control Master Plan in collaboration with policymakers, stakeholders and the community. Remaining funds will be utilis ed for the implementation of priority initi atives identified within the existing National Drug Co ntrol Master Plan. Mr. Chairman, I will now discuss the subjective analysis for Head 88, as shown on page B-267 of the Estimates Book. Salaries. Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for Salaries is $1,924,000 for fiscal year 2018/19 compared with $1,655,000 in fiscal year 2017/18 . This represents an increase of approximately $269,000, or 16 per cent, and is a direct result of multiple vacancies in 2017/18 and salary regrades for clinical posts at-tached to the t reatment centres in 2017 /18. Wages . Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for Wages is $324,000 for fiscal year 2018/19 compared with $327,000 in 2017/18. This is a decrease of approximately $3,000.00, or 1 per cent . This decrease is as a result of an anticipated reduction in contractors’ fees.
Training. Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for Training is $33,000 for fiscal year 2018/19, a d ecrease of approximately $1,000, or 3 per cent. The decrease is the result of cost -saving efforts. Training efforts included addiction -specific and evidencedbased training for local treatment and prevention pr ofessionals along with supporting the professional d evelopment of department staff. Transport . Mr. Chairman, the budget alloc ation for Transport is $22,000 for fiscal year 2018/19, the same as that allocated in fiscal year 2017/18. The travel allocation allows for attendance at international meetings and conferences specifically related to drug policy, professional certifications and drug prevention. Communications . Mr. Chai rman, the budget allocation for Communic ations is $41,000 for fiscal year 2018/19, the same as that all ocated in fiscal year 2017/18. Advertising and Promotion. Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for Advertising and Promotion is $73,000 for fiscal year 2018/19 compared with $78,000 allocated in 2017/18. The decrease of $5,000, or 6 per cent is the result of funds being reallocated to materials and supplies within the Prevention budget. The Department for National Drug Control is responsible for providing community education and drug prevention initiatives to decrease the age of first use and prevent or diminish drug use in the communi-ty. Funds are directed at media campaigns and ed ucational events to meet this responsibility. Professional Services . Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for Professional Services is $468,000 for fiscal year 2018/19 compared to $702,000 in fiscal year 2017/18. In fiscal year 2017/18, the treatment f acility had multiple vacancies due to the hiring freeze and staff attrition. Contractors had to be used to cover the vacancies to keep the treatment programmes operational and, therefore, funds were moved from salaries to cover the costs, causing the incre ase in expenditure. The $234,000 decrease shown reflects the return to regular funding due to vacancies being filled. Normally contractors provide relief coverage for staff leave at the treatment programmes and are facilitators for the Teen Peace programme operating as an after -school programme in five middle schools.
Rentals. Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for rentals is $113,000 for fiscal year 2018/19, the same as allocated in fiscal year 2017/18. The D eBermuda House of Assembly partment for National Drug Control rents offi ce space as well as pays a small rent to WEDCO for the treatment facility. Repair and Maintenance. Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for Repair and Maintenance is $374,000 for fiscal year 2018/19, the same as that allocated in 2017/18. Funding is utilised for repairs and maintenance mainly at the treatment facility. Energy. Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for energy is $147,000, the same as the allocation for 2017/18. Materials and Supplies. Mr. Chairman, the budget allocation for materials and suppli es is $188,000 for fiscal year 2018/19, a $5,000 increase from fiscal year 2017/18. This increase represents the anticipated need for materials and supplies required for the drug prevention programmes. Equipment purchases. Mr. Chairman, the budget allocati on for equipment purchases is $20,000 for fiscal year 2018/19, a $1,000, or 5 per cent, i ncrease from fiscal year 2017/18. The increase is the result of funds required to complete the data analysis system for the research unit. Other Expenses. Mr. Chairman the budget a llocation for other expenses is $1,000 for fiscal year 2018/19, the same as the allocation for fiscal year 2017/18. Grants and Contributions. Mr. Chairman, the Department for National Drug Control is established in part as a service delivery unit, but cannot provide all of the needed services required within the community. The department therefore depends greatly on purchasing services in the treatment and prevention ar eas to realise its mandate. The 62 per cent increase in grant allocations for fiscal year 2018/19 reflects the reinstatement of a needed grant to Focus Counselling Services as indicated previously. It is anticipated that the total funding of $783,000, listed under Grants and Contributions on page C -20 of the Estimates Book, will be used for providing grants to CADA, the Berm uda Addiction Certification Board [BACB], PRIDE, F ocus, and Salvation Army (Harbour Light and Life Skills programmes). Mr. Chairman, CADA and BACB provide essential activities required by legislation. CADA’s T IPS programme is mandated within section 39B of the Bermuda Liquor Licence Act 1974, and Addiction Counsellor Examinations and Certification is required for registration of addiction counsellors under the A llied Health Professions Act 1973. PRIDE provides Life Skills programming within the primary school levels to support drug education and prevention, and Salvation Army provides residential drug treatment and life skills for males. The re- instated funding for Focus Counselling Services will assist in the provision of transitional and supportive housing for recovering males. Mr. Chairman, in closing, the Department for National Drug Control will continue to work collabor atively with other key ministries, such as, Health, Edu-cation and Workforce Development, and various departments such as Corrections, Court Services, and the Bermuda Police Service, Customs, and international partners to ensure the implementation of a balanced approach to efforts made in achieving a healt hier and drug free Bermuda. Mr. Chair man, this completes the presentation on Head 88, and I would like to take the opportunity to sincerely thank all staff who work in the Department for National Drug Control, and any drug rehabilitation services, for their continued hard work and dedication. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Honourable Minister. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Ben Smith.
Mr. Ben Smith[Business unit] 33010, Happy Valley Child Care. The Minister spoke to a reduction in the cost for Happy Valley of $27,000 and he spoke to the changes is some of the services, potentially food and that kind of service. I wondered if he would give a little bit more detail …
[Business unit] 33010, Happy Valley Child Care. The Minister spoke to a reduction in the cost for Happy Valley of $27,000 and he spoke to the changes is some of the services, potentially food and that kind of service. I wondered if he would give a little bit more detail on how they are going to get to that reduction. There were 17 young people that were actually in that particular facility, but there seemed to be quite a bit of demand for that facility. So is there a way for us to figure out how we can get more opportunity? Because if the demand is higher than what they are able to service, we have to find a solution for what we can do with that ov erflow. It is my understanding that a bus was needed for this particular facility. My question is, Has the bus been provided? If the bus has been provided, is it b eing utilised? And what impact does having the bus have? And what impact does that have on t he budget? Moving on to 33020, Family Services, there seemed to be a lot of information about the increased demand in the services that are needed. I am happy to see that there has been an increase in the funding for this, but obviously with the amount of services that seem to be needed and the varied needs for that particular service, it is difficult to meet the demand, obv iously, with the constraints of a tight budget. Specifically in that area there was a portion which talked about neglect. Would the Minister be able to provide types of neglect and what were the degrees of neglect that led to people in this service? 1512 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Once an allegation of abuse has been substantiated, what is the process to take it to the next level? Ages of children once they get past parental control. What is the age that moves them to that area? Now on 33020, Foster Care.
Mr. Ben SmithCan the Minister speak to the primary cause of children moving into the foster care pr ogramme? What is the plan for c hildren who age out of foster care? What kind of support do the kids who age out of that programme receive? Are they taught life skills that …
Can the Minister speak to the primary cause of children moving into the foster care pr ogramme? What is the plan for c hildren who age out of foster care? What kind of support do the kids who age out of that programme receive? Are they taught life skills that allow them to sustain themselves once they no longer have the support of a foster parent? Obviously, there is a need for foster parents. And the Minister spoke to some advertising on Fac ebook to reach out to find more foster parents. With that need, can the Minister speak to what that number is? Are we able to meet the demand? And what are we looking for from foster parents? And are we giving them all the support that is needed in order for them to become foster parents and take really good care of these kids?
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Mr. Ben SmithOne second, Mr. Chairman. I am going to move on to Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs.
The ChairmanChairmanWhich page are you talking about, Member?
Mr. Ben SmithUnder 62080, Research and Public ation. What is the cost of the Mary Prince research pr oject, and what is the time frame for completion? Once completed, will this be included in the school curric ulum? I note that there was a reduction in professional services. Can the Minister speak …
Under 62080, Research and Public ation. What is the cost of the Mary Prince research pr oject, and what is the time frame for completion? Once completed, will this be included in the school curric ulum? I note that there was a reduction in professional services. Can the Minister speak to what is actually in that reduction? There is also a reduction in repair and maintenance. This is on page [B -]257. There is a reduction in repair and maintenance. Does that mean that the facilities that are referred to are not going to need maintenance? Or, you know . . . some clarification of how that is going to be achieved. Moving on now to Head 55, Financial Assi stance, page B -262. This particular area seemed to have a lot of attention. There was a huge need which seems to be growing. The Minister spoke quite at length of all the details that are covered in this partic ular area. Obviously, once again with a budget which makes it very difficult to cover, but obviously we also will have to understand that these needs are not going away. And, as the Minister spoke to, many of them are actually increasing year by year. So we will have to find a way to focus more finances in this particular area until we find a way to reduce those costs. Speaking specifically to seniors, I know that everybody here understands that Bermuda has an ageing population. I know as I was canvassing and speaking to a lot of the people, this was a hot topic. This was the issue. People were trying to figure out how they were going to be able to afford, sustain, their lives in Bermuda with the increased cost of everything that we do in Bermuda and not being able to meet those needs. So, in looking through what we are able to provide, I think it is important that as the number of seniors is growing, we are going to have to pay very close attention to how we are going to provide those services, knowing that this cost is onl y increasing year after year.
The ChairmanChairmanAre you moving to another one now, Honourable Member?
Mr. Ben SmithSo, under Financial Assistance, specifically Social Assistance, 7042 on page C -19 . . .
Mr. Ben SmithThe Minister spoke to the fact that there has been abuse of the system that has happened. Can he give us some indication of what types of abuse, what fraud has actually happened? He used the word “fraud” so I am just following along with it . . . the …
The Minister spoke to the fact that there has been abuse of the system that has happened. Can he give us some indication of what types of abuse, what fraud has actually happened? He used the word “fraud” so I am just following along with it . . . the abuse of the syst em. So my question is, What has been the result of that? If somebody is caught doing something obviously to get around the system, what are the consequences for them? And to go through finding out what those issues are, what is the cost of us having to go into the details of finding out how we got to that point? The Salvation Army shelters. So, the Minister spoke to the fact that there was going to be a move to the Bishop Spencer facility. When would we be i ntending for that move to happen? And what will be the overall cost of that change? And what will the impact be on the budget once that new facility comes on line, because maybe some things are going to move from a different facility? So there could be changes in what happens with that. On page C -20, 7 086, the Focus Counselling.
Mr. Ben SmithJust some further detail on how that programme is going to be . . . what is the impact? Who is going to be involved in it? Obviously, it has a big budget number. So just looking to s ee what is going to be added by moving to that …
Just some further detail on how that programme is going to be . . . what is the impact? Who is going to be involved in it? Obviously, it has a big budget number. So just looking to s ee what is going to be added by moving to that programme. Just so that we can get more details of what that impact is
Bermuda House of Assembly going to be and how it is going to affect the community. [Pause]
Mr. Ben SmithStill . . . I am going to go back to C - 19. There were visits to homes. What is the purpose of the visit? What are the requirements for the house?
Mr. Ben SmithJust what are the requirements for a household, just so we have an understanding of what they are looking for and what happens if the hous ehold is not meeting the requirements that are necessary?
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Any further speakers? We now have the Honourable Member, Patr icia Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinThank you, Mr. Chairman. And I thank the Minister for the detailed presentation in terms of Head 23. I am going to go to Child and Family Services, on the theme of asking the question on the Subjective Analysis on page B -251 with respect to salaries. I did ask …
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I thank the Minister for the detailed presentation in terms of Head 23. I am going to go to Child and Family Services, on the theme of asking the question on the Subjective Analysis on page B -251 with respect to salaries. I did ask the question on the other head earl ier in the week on this department and the answer that came back was because the numbers on the increase or decrease for salaries, under Subjective Analysis on page B -251 under Salaries, we had last year an 8896 and this year 8815 which would show a decrease of 81. I wanted to underscore this because it is a large number. And we spoke to the 2.5 per cent uptick that the Government had announced which would, in and of itself, provide an increase . . . if you take 2.5 per cent on last year’s number, and you know that you got 2.5 per cent more, it will give you an additional $222,000 at least.
The ChairmanChairmanMember, what is the question? The Minister did explain the different subjective analysis quite clearly, so I am just w ondering what the question is.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinRight. So my question is that I just wanted to underscore the fact that the Minister had indicated based on previous requests for information that the 2.5 per cent uptick is not included in this budget number. So we are showing, albeit there is a 2.5 per cent award, as …
Right. So my question is that I just wanted to underscore the fact that the Minister had indicated based on previous requests for information that the 2.5 per cent uptick is not included in this budget number. So we are showing, albeit there is a 2.5 per cent award, as against $8,896,000 there is actually a decrease in the difference between last year and this, and it is just to make sure that we understand that this decrease is based on the fact that this 2.5 per cent award that is being heralded is not included in these budget numbers, so that going forward we will have extra money that will have to be allocated to this because the N ational Budget Office apparently, my understanding, has indicated that there ought not to be the 2.5 per cent increase included in these numbers. I just wanted to point that out because when we see supplementary expenditure coming through then there will be a basic understanding as to the pur-pose therefor. So I just wanted to make sure that we had that.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Point of order.
The ChairmanChairmanWhat is your point — POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Just for clarification. I just want to ask the Member . . . you are saying that the 2.5 [p er cent increase] for salary is not included where?
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinIf I may explain that, Mr. Chairman.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinOkay. In the salaries number, last year we had $8,896,000 as salaries. Th is is on page B -251 under Child and Family Services, Head 23, Subjective Analysis, first line, third column in, 8896 is last year. If we take that as being the base, and there is a 2.5 …
Okay. In the salaries number, last year we had $8,896,000 as salaries. Th is is on page B -251 under Child and Family Services, Head 23, Subjective Analysis, first line, third column in, 8896 is last year. If we take that as being the base, and there is a 2.5 per cent uptick that has been given across the board, one would assume that the difference between last year’s 8896 and this year’s 8815 would have increased by 2.5 per cent of 8896. It would be at least $222,000. But, in fact, it has decreased.
The ChairmanChairmanMember, your question . . . and I know you are being very consistent —
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinYes . . . no, the Honourable Member just asked me what was the reason. 1514 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: One second. You have been very consistent with that question, I think on every head you have gotten up on. So I …
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Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: One second. You have been very consistent with that question, I think on every head you have gotten up on. So I think the question i s, Is the increase included in the budget or not?
The ChairmanChairmanJunior Minister, can you answer that so we can dispense with that? Can you answer that, Junior Minister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It is included in the r evised amount.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinIn which case, Mr. Chairman . . . thank you for the answer. That means that the numbers do not add up, because 2.5 per cent on 8896 would be 222 more.
The ChairmanChairmanWe are not going to do the mathematics.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinNo. I mean if the idea is to delve into the numbers, then I have to ask the question why, if 2.5 per cent of $8.8 million is $222,000, why are we going down by 81? That gives us a $300,000 swing, and that number does not make sense. I …
No. I mean if the idea is to delve into the numbers, then I have to ask the question why, if 2.5 per cent of $8.8 million is $222,000, why are we going down by 81? That gives us a $300,000 swing, and that number does not make sense. I would like to go to page B -250. In his brief, under Residential Treatment Programme, 2303, the Minister indicated that there was a dedication to the Residential Treatment Services that the Government had committed to. But the overall amount of money allocated has actually gone down. The predominant aspect of that came out of 33060, where there is a decrease of [$]298,000, and item 33110 business unit, Youth Residential Treatment, where there is an decrease of 270, whi ch has been offset by the Observ atory Cottage increase. In the Minister’s brief he ind icated that commitment to the programme is being shown, but the money allocated to the programme is down overall by $268,000. So I just wondered if the Minister could jus t revisit that explanation so we can make sure that the explanation agrees with the numbers in front of us. I just wanted to make a comment on the st atistics that the Minister indicated with respect to the 1,222 new referrals, an increase of 211 referrals that he had on these various residential programmes. The numbers are not just staggering, they are really quite frightening because it would suggest that some of our young people are being subjected to situations that hopefully we are able to embrace them and protect them a little bit more. So, the Minister indicated that out of the 1,222 new referrals, there were 430 that were substantiated. My question to the Minister is, Are we begi nning to break the back of that challenge in terms of how our young peo ple are being abused, neglected? It is really quite . . . and the Minister spoke to neglect. I think my honourable colleague asked what kind of neglect. But whatever neglect of a child is sad— sexual, physical, behavioural, emotional, and other neglect, as well as some cognitive challenges and substance abuse. So, are we getting a handle on gripping this monster? Because our children need to be able to have a better shot here. Exposure to domestic violence. You know we need to . . . how are we exploring f urther intervention so that there is a better opportunity for our kids? I would like to go to page B -253 under Child and Family Services, under the performance measures, under item number 1, Happy Valley Child Care Centre. He indicated a minimum of 85 per cent of the children to achieve set developmental and edu-cational milestones. The question is, What are the standards that are being utilised to set or make sure that these children can measure up? What is the i nternational standard that is being set for the Happy Valley Care Centre for children? Under 33020, performance measures, again, the number of children who are protected from ongoing child abuse. And the target outcome obviously has to be 100 per cent. We do not want any child subjec ted to that. But, again, what are the reporting stan dards that would say that we have actually got a handle on this and we have been able to try to come to grips with this challenge? The number of children whose risk is reduced, under number 2 for Family Services, 33020, the number of children is given at 120. The question is, Out of how many? How many children were there? We have there that it was reduced, but is that 120 out of 200, or 500? Where are we in terms of that? Also, under number 3, the number of social inquiry reports where fathers are granted joint cust ody. I wonder if we could have a better feel for where parents are granted joint custody? This kind of almost sets a stigma that somehow there is something negative about fathers being granted joint custody. There could be challenges to some of our children in which one or the other parent could be creating a challenge within some structure, and I just wonder if social i nquiry reports where parents have joint custody would be a more useful measure, I believe. The foster care. There were five children, according to item number 3, on page B -253, five children being the targeted outcome. Four were placed during 2017/18, five. But how many do we have on the wait list? Also, the average cost per resident, and thi s is under 33070, also on page B -253. The average cost per resident at the home per day for Brangman Home is $600. This has remained static over the years from
Bermuda House of Assembly 2016/17, 2017/18 (this is on page B -253 towards the bottom). It has remained static over the four columns that are alluded to in the Budget Book. And the question begs, Are we looking at the real costs? Or should we be looking at enhancing or increasing the actual amount that we are spending in this particular area? It is certainly inconsistent with the additional cost of groceries, services and the like. So I am just curious. I just want to make sure that we will not be falling behind in this particular area. Under B -254, Family Services, business unit 33200, Bermuda Youth Counselling Services. It spoke to a number of assessments being completed and a number of clients admitted to the programme; 75 and 80 were the projected outcomes for the next year. The question is, What is the population to be assessed? You know, we just need to get an idea as to whether we are trying to embrace the lion’s share of the chal-lenges or can we only cope with . . . I mean, we can only cope with what we can cope with. But I just wondered how significant a difference we are making in those programmes in being able to ens ure that assessments are properly completed. I am going to pass on Community and Cultural Affairs, because I have some questions with r espect to Financial Assistance. The Minister gave quite significant details in terms of where we stood respec ting Financ ial Assistance and the seniors who are in financial assistance and the able- bodied unemployed, the earnings low, and the unemployed—
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinI’m sorry. This is on page B -265, which is Financial Assistanc e.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinAnd the grant . . . I’m sorry, [B]- 263, I beg your pardon. And the grant for Financial Assistance under programme 65050, Grants Administration . . . the amount that has been allocated is $48,512,000. Now, while this number . . . the Government did announce that they are …
And the grant . . . I’m sorry, [B]- 263, I beg your pardon. And the grant for Financial Assistance under programme 65050, Grants Administration . . . the amount that has been allocated is $48,512,000. Now, while this number . . . the Government did announce that they are trying to get a handle on people who have become dependent on financial as-sistance and, therefore, they want to be able to r educe that dependency. And I certainly understand it becaus e I do know that a year or two ago we had a similar kind of approach that you cannot be indefinitely delving or dipping into the pot of Financial Assistance without making a concerted ability to help to better yourself. So I understand that this is going down by $1.8 million. But if you look at the actuals from 2016/17 on page B -263, four programmes, 65050, Grants and Administration, it was at $50,665,000 two years ago. And the Minister thinks that it is going to be able to go down to $48,512[,000] this coming year. So if you look at that differential, we are talking about two-plus million dollars less now than we had alloca ted before. As I said, I understand the concept, and I understand what the Government is trying to achieve, but the question begs, How are we practically trying to put those reductions into actuality? The same question I have on the subjective analysis on page B -263 for salaries, because now the Junior Minister has put a spanner in the works to say that the 2.5 per cent is included in th e budget number and, by saying that, the numbers, again, do not add. If we took 2920 from last year, put a 2.5 per cent uptick, it would be at least [$]73,000 in the current year. So we just need to have clarity on whether the 2.5 per cent is included, or whether it is not included. That would be useful. The day care providers . . . and this is on page B -265 for performance measures. I heard the Minister indicate that there had been some situations of fraud within the department. And it is going to be difficult to completely wipe that out. There are going to be people who are going to try to get over the system. And I applaud the Minister for (a) being able to identify it; and (b) being able to send investigators out to be able to figure out what is going on, because I do not think it is fair for people who are in genuine need to have to be short -changed because there are people who basically have nefarious purposes in terms of asking for financial assistance. So, when the Minister indicated that there were . . . there was a significant number; more than we would like to see, who were acting fraudulently. I just want to make sure that (a) we support the Government’s efforts to try to stamp it out; but (b) to ensure that when people are found to have subverted the responsibilities of the d epartment [when] making their applications that there are significant penalties. I believe—
The ChairmanChairmanMember, you are being repetitive. That question has already been asked, and leave it for the Minister to answer.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinI did not hear that question.
Mrs. Patricia J. Go rdon -PamplinOkay. Now, the Minister indicated that the staffing complement precluded some of the home visits and some of the assistant site visits. And the question is, Of the staffing complement, what is the average cas eload? Is it getting better? I think that in the numbers of 1516 7 March …
Okay. Now, the Minister indicated that the staffing complement precluded some of the home visits and some of the assistant site visits. And the question is, Of the staffing complement, what is the average cas eload? Is it getting better? I think that in the numbers of 1516 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly people there are going to be two more, two additional caseworkers, or two additional people in the Financial Assistance, and I am just curious to know whether there is . . . what the caseload is per caseworker. And will they be able to catch up on the [ability] to have as many site visits for Financial Assistance clients as they would like to have. Six hundred is the number that they have. If you divide that, not necessarily by 34, maybe by 30, because you will have people who will be confined to the office . . . you are talking about at least 20 people, 20 cases that people would have to cope with. If the Minister could also indicate with respect to job searches, now this is something that is not new. It has been required perenni ally that if somebody is requesting financial assistance they must show that they are actively looking for work. The Minister ind icated that job searches are required at five per week.
The ChairmanChairmanThe policy has not changed since the Government has changed, you know.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinI am asking the question. I am not suggesting that the policy has not changed; I am asking a question. And the question is . . . the 5 per week and the 12 per week job searches that are being required . . . I have said it was …
I am asking the question. I am not suggesting that the policy has not changed; I am asking a question. And the question is . . . the 5 per week and the 12 per week job searches that are being required . . . I have said it was longstanding, it is not something new. My question is that many of the job search . . . the fulfilling of the cr iteria is predicated upon a person who wants financial assistance going to a company, Mr. Chairman, and saying, Can you fill out this form? And I am just wo ndering if we have come up with any other way that we can help to ensure that we evidence that, as opposed to not just saying go to a company that may not be asking for an employee. So you have potential clients showing up —
The ChairmanChairmanSo the question is, Has anything changed?
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinNo. My question is, Have we put in a process and linked it, perhaps into Workforce Development, as well as the knocking on the doors? That is what I want to know. Obviously, you want to make sure that we do find work. In terms of the Administration on page …
No. My question is, Have we put in a process and linked it, perhaps into Workforce Development, as well as the knocking on the doors? That is what I want to know. Obviously, you want to make sure that we do find work. In terms of the Administration on page B -266 under National Drug Control, there was an increase of $300,000. The Minister indicated that the reason for that was the reinstatement of the grant to Focus, the $300,000. Focus was initially part of the branch and then it was de- funded. The purpose for the defunding, as I recall, was as a result of not having suff icient information, like the accounts and stuff, coming into the Ministry. My question is, Is that now being brought up to date and regularised? Because the services that are performed by Focus are key services to the community and it is painful — The Chairman: Member, you are sitting in this House. You know that they cannot get the money unless they follow the rules. Come on, just —
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinI am asking the question as to whether this is up to date, Mr. Chai rman. I want to make sure— The Chairman: You know, nothing has changed.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinNo, no, no. I a m not saying that anything has changed; and I am certainly not attempting to be argumentative with you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to understand that we did not, or there was not a de- funding just for the sake of defunding, that there was …
No, no, no. I a m not saying that anything has changed; and I am certainly not attempting to be argumentative with you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to understand that we did not, or there was not a de- funding just for the sake of defunding, that there was de- funding becaus e there was a specific purpose, a specific reason. And with that specific reason I want to make sure that we are sati sfied that it is regularised. Even though we can budget for it . . . and I know that the money will not actually be paid out —
The ChairmanChairmanYou were the Minister there, you know. Nothing has changed.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinWell, that is exac tly the reason I am asking—
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinSo I just want to understand that it is now being properly regularised. The Professional Services. The Minister indicated that the vacancies were due to —
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinOn page [B] -267 under Professional Services, under Subjective Anal ysis with respect to Professional Services which was initially budgeted at 702 and is now down to 468. I understand what the Minister said. The question is that I do not think that I heard, when I was writing my …
On page [B] -267 under Professional Services, under Subjective Anal ysis with respect to Professional Services which was initially budgeted at 702 and is now down to 468. I understand what the Minister said. The question is that I do not think that I heard, when I was writing my notes, how many individuals had under -filled pos itions, and how many are now being reinstated as a result of taking off the freeze to accommodate the fact that—
Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: So you want the Minister to explain that again?
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinYes. If the Minister can explain . . . as I said, I did try to follow him very carefully. But we have here salaries, an increase of 269. The increase in salaries of 269 on the first line of the Subjective Analysis is offset by the decrease in Professional …
Yes. If the Minister can explain . . . as I said, I did try to follow him very carefully. But we have here salaries, an increase of 269. The increase in salaries of 269 on the first line of the Subjective Analysis is offset by the decrease in Professional Services. So my question is, between the two we now have an increase of [$]35,000 net between the 269 increase and the 234 decrease. How many people have . . . who were previously not wor king in that department because of freezes . . . how many will now be reinstated so that we can have an idea of how this $35,000 is being spent collectively? I do have a couple of other questions, but I think . . . I had . . . just give me one second.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinThis is on . . . I am going back to page B -263, with the Grants Administr ation, 65050. I just have a question. And that is a question that came to me, and I did not remember the answer, and I think it is useful to ask. When …
This is on . . . I am going back to page B -263, with the Grants Administr ation, 65050. I just have a question. And that is a question that came to me, and I did not remember the answer, and I think it is useful to ask. When people have home ownership, is there . . . or what is the procedure by which they are determined to be eligible or not for this financial assistance? I know it may have changed subsequently because I think there was something, as I recall, that indicated that if you owned your own home, historically yo u were not eligible for financial assistance. And now I think that is being relaxed to some extent; that it is not necessarily that if you own you own home you would be ineligible. We do not want seniors who are house rich and cash poor to be starving. So I am just curious if the Minister could just let us know what the rules are surrounding that, just for the edification of those who may have had those questions. Community Education and Community and Cultural Affairs, B -256. I just wanted to confirm under programme expenditure 5204, under business unit 62160, Community Education, Admin; and Community Education Course—
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinPage [B] -256. And this is 5204, Community Education, and these are the . . . actuall y all three programmes there have zero. Are these the ones that were transferred to the D epartment of Education? That was just a question that . . . I did not write …
Page [B] -256. And this is 5204, Community Education, and these are the . . . actuall y all three programmes there have zero. Are these the ones that were transferred to the D epartment of Education? That was just a question that . . . I did not write it down and he may have said it. But I just wanted to make sure that this is what it was. I will sit for the moment and give the Minister the opportunity to answer the questions and give other Members the opportunity to speak.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Honourable Member. Any further speak ers? There appear to be none, Minister . . . I’m so rry. One second. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Zane De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to speak, Mr. Chairman, if I …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speak ers? There appear to be none, Minister . . . I’m so rry. One second. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Zane De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to speak, Mr. Chairman, if I could, very quickly to try . . . let me see if I can find the page . . . with regard to H ead 23. The Honourable Member, Pat Gordon- Pamplin, was talking about the salaries and the 2.5 per cent uplift.
The ChairmanChairmanYes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Just to help her out . . . and she will know this. When the departments were looking at their budgets for the year, and as the Junior Minister said, the 2.5 per cent was included across the board. So, what happened was, …
Yes.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Just to help her out . . . and she will know this. When the departments were looking at their budgets for the year, and as the Junior Minister said, the 2.5 per cent was included across the board. So, what happened was, during that time we said, Okay, we’re going to include that and we will juggle everything and we will keypunch everything in the syste m. And, as a former Minister, she will know due to the efficient staff that are all here tonight we had started working on the budget early. They had punched in a lot of the numbers and during that pr ocess we continued to work and look at the budgets acros s the entire Ministry. We were looking at where we could save, how can we . . . you know. Former Ministers will know that that is what we do until the “D -Day” comes. So we did all those, re- working and working and looking at the numbers and crunching them , what have you. Numbers were punched in. And you will know there comes a time . . . and the Honourable former Minister Gi bbons will certainly know, as a former Finance Minister. There comes a time when you have to say, Look. Here is the cut -off. You keypunch it in. You say, That’s it. But now we go back and we discuss it with Cabinet colleagues and caucus colleagues. And, you know, we may find that we have to do some further juggling, if you may. I am not going to say “fuzzing the numbers,” but we have to do some tinkering. In this particular case . . . and the Honourable Member, Pat Gordon- Pamplin, is correct. If you look at the book, you have a decrease of 81. But if you look at the number of 8.815 . . . and normally, under normal circumstances, you look at that and say, Well, yeah. It is 2.5 per cent missing. You are absolutely correct. But what happened was that once the numbers were put in, I think the Cabinet took a look at the ministries across the whole, they did some juggling, and I know that th e Ministry (and I am sure the Mini ster will speak to this in due course) . . . but the Ministry 1518 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly will be looking at moving some positions around within the different departments. That is where you have 2.5 [per cent]. I am sure as you know, former Minister , . . . well, actually you have another former Minister, [Member] Sylvan Richards. He will probably know too. I don’t know if he went through the budget process at all, but, you know, stuff happens. But that is the re ason. And it is a good pick up, and I t hink people a ppreciate that. But just to explain that this is what ha ppened. And you will find that by the time . . . well, for next year’s budget I think you will find that everything matches up perfectly.
The ChairmanChairmanAny further speakers? The Chair r ecognises the Member Scott Si mmons from [constituency 32].
Mr. Scott SimmonsThank you, Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to highlight really quickly as it relates to Head 55 under Financial Assistance, one of the most signi ficant parts of it . . . and I want to take this opportunity to commend the Minister on an excellent brief as it relates …
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to highlight really quickly as it relates to Head 55 under Financial Assistance, one of the most signi ficant parts of it . . . and I want to take this opportunity to commend the Minister on an excellent brief as it relates to this Ministry. It is a broad Ministry that r equires, certainly a human touch. And I wanted to also commend not just this Minister, but the former Minister on his perfor mance in this particular area. But, Mr. Chairman, make no mistake about it. As I look at B -262, and also looking at Head 55 under Financial Assistance, this particular area in this budget is vitally important, I know to you, Mr. Chairman, and also to me, in that in constituency 32 so many of our voters and our citizens are involved in some way, shape or form, in Financial Assistance. So I think that what has happened, and the Ministry has highlighted that there has been a reduction of $1.5 million, I believe, in the Budget Book. But I do believe that —
Mr. Scott SimmonsI am sorry, 1.8. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What I do believe is important is that as you will find on B -265, under the measurement indicators, it says, To im prove the grant administration, to [approve] financial awards of 100 per cent of our new Financial Assistance clients within …
I am sorry, 1.8. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What I do believe is important is that as you will find on B -265, under the measurement indicators, it says, To im prove the grant administration, to [approve] financial awards of 100 per cent of our new Financial Assistance clients within 10 working days. Mr. Chairman, one of the things that was an observation, certainly from those that are in my area, is that they r ealise that the Government understands that they are . . . partially of their predicament. But they do realise that Government and our . . . realise how serious it is for them. But the point they want to make is that it is the efficiency by which financial assistance is made available. So, while I realise that in Government, in dea ling with so many clients on a day -to-day basis is a challenge, I do believe that . . . and that is why I poin ted out the measurement phase, because I do believe that in this par ticular budget coming through the Mini stry there is a re- emphasis on making sure that they are a client -driven department. I was encouraged by what I read, I believe it was in 263 in the book (if it wasn’t 263 it was 262) as it relates to how they were going to implement a financial assistance programme, or reintroduce almost, that was more, as I mentioned, client based. Mr. Chairman, our seniors are vitally important to us all. They have served our country. They have worked hard. And all they are asking for is an oppor-tunity to continue to be productive citizens. But they realise that the world that they are in is changing. And in that change, they do not wish to be seen to be left behind, or to be a burden to us all. But they are as king, and we have answer ed by providing to them an opportunity to work, if need be, in the small areas that they can work. But to also take full advantage of these social programmes that assist them in their everyday lives. I think that this Government should continue, and is continuing, to demonstrate that we are pr epared to understand the plight that they are in. But as we streamline this department we must always reco gnise the social element in this department, that they are human, and they are simply asking for assistance for a time period that can get them though this time period. And I think that if we understand this, I believe we can advance together as a Government. As a furtherance to this section . . . I did not want to go too much into the Minister’s brief because I felt that this area is an area that I am quite familiar with. I have been to Financial Assistance on numerous occasions. I have been to Housing Corporation for voters in my area and I think that this is an area that we must see as a help part of our Governm ent. This area speaks to the real hurt in our community. And if we do not get this right . . . and I do believe that we need to be prudent. And we need to be clear on how we deal with this area and we must make sure—
The ChairmanChairmanMember, you are getting a lot of le verage here.
The ChairmanChairmanWell, you have to be specific of this budget.
Mr. Scott SimmonsRight. So, what I feel is that if we continue on that vein then we certainly will do very well. I am glad to see it in this budget. I hope that we do continue in this vein. And I do believe that we Bermuda House of Assembly are doing …
Right. So, what I feel is that if we continue on that vein then we certainly will do very well. I am glad to see it in this budget. I hope that we do continue in this vein. And I do believe that we
Bermuda House of Assembly are doing a good job going forward. And I thank the Minister fo r doing so. Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Honourable Member. Any further speak ers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Sylvan Richards, from [constituency] 7. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. Mr. Chairman, I am not g oing to speak long because I am looking forward to the Minister answering the questions …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speak ers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Sylvan Richards, from [constituency] 7. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. Mr. Chairman, I am not g oing to speak long because I am looking forward to the Minister answering the questions that have already been posed. But I must say I am going to piggyback off the Member from constituency 32 who just took his seat, as he did acknowledge that the budget s hows a decrease of $1.871 million in Financial Assistance for the 2018/19 year. As a former Minister, I know it is a very i mportant Ministry. It is a difficult Ministry because you are dealing with peoples’ lives. This Ministry takes care of and looks out for those who are the most exposed amongst us. Even though we live in a som ewhat affluent country, there are many people out there whose lives depend on financial assistance. So I, for one, am very concerned that the budget has been reduced by $1.8 million. I know in the Minister’s remarks he went through it line by line and kind of accounted for it. But I am a 40,000- foot guy, and I am looking down and the budget has been reduced. So I am interested to hear from the Minister how he can justify that. I understand that you have to . . . everybody has to do more with less. I get all that. But this is something that I think we really, really need to drill down on. I am looking forward to the Minister’s r esponse. Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Any furt her speakers? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 2, Kim Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanThank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I could not let this debate go by without weighing in on a subject that is near and dear to my heart. Social i ssues are very important. I am going to go right to B -250, Child and Family Services, 33010, Happy Valley …
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I could not let this debate go by without weighing in on a subject that is near and dear to my heart. Social i ssues are very important. I am going to go right to B -250, Child and Family Services, 33010, Happy Valley Child Care Centre. For quite some time, since my first entrance into the Legislature, I have always said that this is a success story, Happy Valley C hild Care Centre, which has been budgeted some $918,000. It deals with social issues on the front end, unlike other programmes, or ministries, like National Security, which deal with problems on the back end. There is no secret in this country that we ha ve had some very serious social problems. And since I have come into the Legislature, since 1998, I can tell you, Mr. Chairman, that those social problems have esc alated. And without pointing any fingers, or foisting any blame, we all must live with it. But we must arrest the problem going forward. If we contend that Happy Valley [Child] Care Centre on Happy Valley Road is a success story, and if, Mr. Chairman, we recognise that we still have in our midst some serious social problems, when the opportunity comes to afford some funding, let us look at front end problems, front end solutions, as where we should be investing. Would I be so bold to suggest that if Happy Valley [Child] Care Centre can work so well in the central parishes, then families in need in the East End would benefit from a Happy Valley Child Care initiative in St. George’s Parish, and a Happy Valley Child Care extension could be of benefit in the western parishes. Now, I know that the Junior Minister of F inance might glare down at me right now as he is tr ying to, you know, do his part to make sure that we balance. And I am all for that. But I am also, Mr. Chairman, for getting it right for our social conditions. We need to make sure that as we look at one area that we can put it into another, let us look in this direction. As I look on B -250, Mr. Chairman, and I look at facilities, such as the Brangman Home, 33070.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanThere are many success stories over many, many years that can be attributed to facilities as such. We need to do all we can in ways that go beyond the dollars that have been put in that direction, celebrating those persons who are the success story. I remember listening to …
The ChairmanChairmanMember, let me s ay this. I have been very lenient with all of you. But we are in . . . the general debate is over.
The ChairmanChairmanWe have to be in the specifics of the budget.
The ChairmanChairmanI am not saying your comments are not important; but they would have been more i mportant in the general debate, and more appropriate there. So, let’s try to get back to the Minister to answer some of the questions. You know, I —
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanThank you, Mr. Chai rman— 1520 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: —appreciate what you are saying—
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanAnd, Mr. Chairman, I will say this, as I talk about 33070 with regard to the Brangman Home. I am encouraged that the Minister and his team have seen fit to provide an increase in what was allocated in the budget for that particular line item. It has gone from …
And, Mr. Chairman, I will say this, as I talk about 33070 with regard to the Brangman Home. I am encouraged that the Minister and his team have seen fit to provide an increase in what was allocated in the budget for that particular line item. It has gone from . . . and I believe as other Members have alluded, it relates to revised 2017/18 estimate. But if you look further to the 2017/18 you would see that it is a little bit more substantive. And there are many benefits that I hope will be realised, Mr. Chairman, as we look at that particular head, 33070. And it is important. Likewise, wit h the Observatory Cottage, as Members were alluding to [Head] 55, Financial Assi stance, which deals with situations on the back end. And no disrespect, because it is much needed in our community, but I believe that the Government in the ethos of the budget was going to look at how we can lift persons up so that there is a lesser need in that area. Here is an example of an increase as it r elates to Observatory Cottage. And if my knowledge and experience serves me correctly, Mr. Chairman, 33090 sees a signi ficant increase in that area. That is another example of putting your resources on the front end. So when Members start looking at, and being critical on one regard, they must look if it has been deployed in another area. And I appreciate you directing me to the numbers, Mr. Chairman, because I can look at a number or two, you know, in spite of me doing my first three years down there where the Colonel would often crit icise us for being. I do know a little bit about the dollars and the cents. So it is imp ortant for us to look, Mr. Chairman, that overall, in Child and Family Services there has been an increase across the board, nominally at best, because some $15,750,000 has been appropriated for 2018/19, versus some $15,634,000. So there is an increase bey ond the 1 per cent when you compare it to the . . . well, it is the 1 per cent. They are both the same, the 2017/18 and the 2007 [sic] revised are both the same total. But, as you look across the board, there has been some movement to one area. And I think it is important to make that particular point, Mr. Chairman. So, with those remarks, Mr. Chairman, I will take my seat and allow another Member to make a contribution.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Honourable Member. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat [Gordon] -Pamplin. Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do have one other question. And that is on page B -250, under Child and Family Services. The Minister in his brief indicated that bus iness unit …
Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat [Gordon] -Pamplin. Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do have one other question. And that is on page B -250, under Child and Family Services. The Minister in his brief indicated that bus iness unit 33100, which is Psycho- Educational pr ogramme, was included in administration, which is 33120. However, in the book they are separated out. The question that I have is that with the Ps ycho-Ed programme, the Minister indicated that there were 15 clients overseas on the prior year, that 1 cl ient had been referred during the current year, and that there were 22 altogether on the comparative year. My question is, Of the 22 that were there, they are now down to 15 clients, how many of those clients have returned, or how many of them aged out of the system? And of those who aged out, what is the follow up and where do they stand to make sure that they do not fall between the cracks? Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanAny further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member, Zane De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I thought it was . . . even though I did rise to just give an explanation to the Honourable Member Gordon- Pamplin, and I think …
Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member, Zane De Silva.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I thought it was . . . even though I did rise to just give an explanation to the Honourable Member Gordon- Pamplin, and I think she accepted that as she has been in the position and, certai nly, I am sure, has experienced that herself. But outside of that, I did want to give a few comments on the Ministry itself. I will say that I was just a little disappointed in the fact that we have been allotted 4 hours and the Shadow Minister only spoke for about 10 minutes. I thought that . . . it was about 11.5 [minutes], yes. But I was a little disappointed in that I expected a little bit more from the Shadow Minister, being that this was his Ministry. So, I was a little disappointed, and looking for a little bit more, to be honest. But, be that as it may. Mr. Chairman, I thought that I would like to thank the Ministry staff. You will certainly know that throughout this entire budget so far to date there has been lots of talk about vacancies throughout all the ministries. And you will know that there has been lots of replies from Ministers, and tonight is no exception, about filling vacant posts. I think it is important that we emphasise the fact that we have had many civil ser vants throughout government that have been doubling up, and some tripling up, Mr. Chairman, over the last couple of years due to these unfilled posts. I thought that it was only right that we, in this House, emphasise to not only each other but to the people of Bermuda, because sometimes the civil servants get a raw deal. And I do not think that folks really appreciate the pressure and stress that a lot of the civil servants have been under for the last couple of years. As you will know, they went I think six years without a rais e in pay. And, of course, on top of the
Bermuda House of Assembly non-increase in pay, they have been doubling up and tripling up. And in this particular Ministry, I had the honour and the privilege of meeting some of the people at the hard core. They work right at the core of a lot of the challenges that we have in our country, whether it be socially, economically, or otherwise. And I think that the staff, whether it is in F inancial Assistance, whether it is in Culture . . . you could pick any department you want and . . . Child a nd Family Services. I see Mr. Maybury here tonight. I know that I can tell you, Mr. Chairman, when I first met Mr. Maybury, who heads Child and Family Services, and his team, we had allotted like maybe 25, 30 minutes. We stayed for three hours. And when yo u hear some of the stories first - hand from our people, the experiences that they have . . . and, you know, I am sure even from the time when you had former Minister Richards, or former Minister Pat Gordon- Pamplin, even from their particular time in office, they would have the stories too, I am sure. But I think that our social fabric and some of our social i ssues with our children and our families have escalated in a very, very quick way. And it has put a lot of pressure on those departments as well. And I would like to say a big “thank you” to everyone that has to deal with this, whether it be Financial Assistance, or Child and Family Services, because they have a lot of pressure. I think that we cannot praise them enough for the work that they have done and continue to do. I would also, whilst I am on Financial Assi stance and some of the things that we are doing social-ly, mention the fact . . . and I know the Minister touched on it when he spoke about the Financial A ssistance Reform Group. And I know that s ome of the Members opposite talked about the reductions we have in Financial Assistance which is on page [B] - 262, Head 55. My thing is that it is a challenge. We have a lot of our people that are struggling, Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A lot of families are stru ggling. And I take this opportunity to say, thank goodness the Progressive Labour Party had the foresight to give our young ladies the assistance they need with some of their children with regard to day care, and …
Mm-hmm.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A lot of families are stru ggling. And I take this opportunity to say, thank goodness the Progressive Labour Party had the foresight to give our young ladies the assistance they need with some of their children with regard to day care, and what have you, in the terms of $800 per month. I mean, that is huge. That was vision to be able to do that back then, and to be able to support our single mothers in the way in which we have over the years. So whilst I know there has been a decrease in Financial Assistance, you will know that ––getting back to the reform group, the reform group is headed by none other than our former Director of Family Services, Financial Assistance, Dianna Taylor ––I think that we have a good group that has been working very hard. And I think they do have the Opposition Mem-ber, Susan Jackson, who is also on that reform group. So I am sure that she brings feedback from her caucus. [With] some things we have to try to put the politics aside and work with the people of this country. And I believe that the Financial Assistance Reform Group will do just that. My hope, Minister, is that we can accelerate it and the PS carries it, and he certai nly knows how I felt about it. And I am sure that he is pushing because he is part and par cel of that group and certainly stays well in touch with them. So I know that on Tuesdays (I think they still meet on Tuesdays) they have some robust and fruitful . . . well, yes. I have given a couple of comments on the heads, but I think it is a good tim e . . . I am sure former Minister [Gordon] -Pamplin —
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYou’re rambling. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I am rambling. Yes I am. Yes I am — [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But I think it is a good— [Inaudible interjecti ons]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberLet the Minister answer the questions. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, you certainly . . . now, Members . . . I hear Members Gibbons and Pat Gordon-Pamplin saying they are waiting for answers to questions.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. MembersYes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And that is why . . . well, you, you did the . . . I must say the Shadow Minister certainly did not take up much time. It was you all. All I am saying to you is that I am sure …
Yes.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And that is why . . . well, you, you did the . . . I must say the Shadow Minister certainly did not take up much time. It was you all. All I am saying to you is that I am sure that you would not mind giving credit to our hard- work ing civil servants.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. So don’t say I’m rambling on.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYou are! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am giving credit where credit is due. [Inaudible interjections ] [Gavel] 1522 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. D e Silva: But see, the Honourable Members say they want questions answered. I am …
You are! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am giving credit where credit is due. [Inaudible interjections ]
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. D e Silva: But see, the Honourable Members say they want questions answered. I am giving you an answer. The Minister has only been in his seat for a couple of weeks. And as the Minister that was there for a couple of months, I think that I can answer some of those. And one of those is . . . the question was, Why are we making a reduction in F inancial Assistance? Well, you will certainly know, you have, I think, two or three former Ministers on that side who certai nly know some of the challenges that the country faced in Financial Assistance. So I am trying to give you the answer. I do not expect the Minister of a couple of weeks to be able to answer every question. He is good. He is good, but I know he has been on roller skates since he has been there too. So I am trying to give a little bit of . . . Mr. Chairman, some answers to the questions that the Members opposite have had. So, on that note, what I am saying to you is that the reduction in Financial Assistance, you will note in the Minister’s brief he di d say the goal was to cut that by $1.5 million in the next fiscal year. Okay? Now, the way we hope to achieve that, with the parti cipation of your colleague, Ms. Jackson, right? As a team we want to be able to put together all of the i nformation that we ar e going to gather over the next several weeks (I hope it is going to take, because they have been at it a couple of months now), and come back to this House and get everyone’s support as to what we are going to do going forward. And maybe Dr. Gibbons and C larion Bank and Gibbons group of companies —
The ChairmanChairmanMember — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —maybe they can hopefu lly participate in that, maybe do some public/private partnership deals.
The ChairmanChairmanMember, you are doing a general debate now. Hon. Z ane J. S. De Silva: Yes, all right.
The ChairmanChairmanYou have to— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, now, Mr. Chairman . . .
The ChairmanChairmanMm-hmm. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: With regard to Community . . . my Minister can put me down any time he wants. But, I am sure that he does not mind me giving the information for not only the Members opposite but for the general public. One of …
Mm-hmm. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: With regard to Community . . . my Minister can put me down any time he wants. But, I am sure that he does not mind me giving the information for not only the Members opposite but for the general public. One of the other things that I think is i mportant, Mr. Chairman, is on Head 88, National Drug Control, page [B] -266. I think we know that some of the issues that we have had in the country over the past couple of years the National Drug Control will play a very important part in assisting the Minister with some of the initiatives going forward in collaboration with the Minister of National Security. All right? Okay? Now, before I take my seat, I would certainly like to finish off on Head 52, Mr. Chairman, Community and Cultural Affairs, which is on [page] B -255. I would certainly like to thank them (they are in the House today). Ms. Dismont, I can’t look because she gives you that smile and gets you all twinkly. But I would certainly like to thank the department of the Ministry of Community and Cultural Affairs for the great work that they have done. And I know they have some good things happening for us especially when it comes to Bermuda Day this year. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member, Kim Swan, from constituency 2.
Mr. Hubert (Ki m) E. SwanMr. Chairman, ever so briefly, I will pick up where the Member who just sat down left off, on B -256, as it relates to 62130, Senior Citizen Projects. I just want to take this opportunity to encourage the Minister, whilst on this particular line item. There is some $78,000 …
Mr. Chairman, ever so briefly, I will pick up where the Member who just sat down left off, on B -256, as it relates to 62130, Senior Citizen Projects. I just want to take this opportunity to encourage the Minister, whilst on this particular line item. There is some $78,000 allocated. As it relates to this department, I see it as an opportunity. As I spoke to front end initiatives, our seniors, as it interacts with Community and Cultural Affairs, Mr. Chairman, as you would very well know, have a w ealth of knowledge and experience. I would encourage the Minister to look at this line item to see how the initiatives for seniors can be partnered with the initiatives for young people. I mentioned the Happy Valley [Child] Care Centre earlier. But there are other initiatives that seniors throughout our country can be involved in. It may take a little bit more than the $78,000 in this initiative. But I am sure, utilising persons, like yourself, Mr. Chairman, and others who are very much advocates for our seniors, if we can look at how we can enhance, grow this particular line item, there can be some great benefit derived from it. Our seniors have the knowledge to be able to . . . and not only that, they come from a place, from a foundation in which they c an be of great benefit. And sometimes a young person would take and learn more aptly from someone that they might not know. So, I am just encouraging the Minister, as we look at Community and Cultural Affairs, to look at the opportunities in this line item . Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanThe Chair recognises the Honourable Member Zane De Silva, from constituency 29. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Chairman, I wanted to mention three quick things with regard to B -255, Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs. I just wanted to …
The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Zane De Silva, from constituency 29. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Chairman, I wanted to mention three quick things with regard to B -255, Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs. I just wanted to mention three quick things, because . . . and I will quickly take my seat. One is, I would just like to remind the Minister that he was posed a question at a funeral recently. And that was at Mr. Forty Rego’s funeral. Now, why am I talking about this with Community and Cultural Affairs? Because you will know, Minister, I think you were there at the time, that there were certain people that were calling for a national hero. And the cha llenge was put forth right in church that he should be considered. So I just wanted to lay that down as a marker, because I do not think I have to tell anyone in this House about Forty Rego and what he stood for and what he accomplished, what he did for the young people in this country. That is number 1. Now, the second thing that I wanted to do while I am on my feet is also talk, because we have just finished Black History Month. Now, Minister, what I wanted—
The ChairmanChairmanMember, you have got to refer me to a head. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, I am referring to Head 52—
The ChairmanChairman[Head] 52? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: [Head] 52, and, in partic ular, page [B] -255 the Mission Statement and the D epartment Objectives. Head 52. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The ChairmanChairmanWhat line? What particular — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What I wanted to do was look at the department’s objectives. And one thing that we did not talk about today that I think we should certainly [chase] . . . I would certainly implore you, Mi nister, to …
What line? What particular —
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What I wanted to do was look at the department’s objectives. And one thing that we did not talk about today that I think we should certainly [chase] . . . I would certainly implore you, Mi nister, to chase is, we just completed Black History Month. We do not do enough . . . in fact, every Member in this House, I am sure, will remember the ad that ran last Cup Match which explained how Cup Match came about and the importance of it, because I do not think a lot of people realise how Cup Match came about and what it means.
[Laughter]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But the ad, but the ad . . . other than a two- day holiday.
[Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberYou know, you’re just wasting time. Just sit down. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No. Mr. Chairman, you see? That is the problem. You see when are talking about —
The ChairmanChairmanMember, hang on a minute. Let me say that the rules are quite clear. Any Member can speak after the Minister. Any Member can speak. The rules are being followed by the Chair. Carry on. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I did refer to …
Member, hang on a minute. Let me say that the rules are quite clear. Any Member can speak after the Minister. Any Member can speak. The rules are being followed by the Chair. Carry on.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I did refer to page [B] -255, Head 52, D epartment Objectives. And, you know, the Members opposite laughed. See, what I was getting to is one of the things that I think we should concentrate on in the Ministry, and the PS certainly knows this, is that we should not only concentrate on Black History during the month of February, but we should do something every mont h of the year, every year. We do not do it enough. And, of course, I am going to talk to the Minister because we do have some catching up to do. But certainly the PS knows exactly how I feel with regard to that. Now, I take my seat on this note, Mr. Chai rman. I would certainly implore us to try and do more for those of our people that have accomplished much and have not been recognised enough. I mean, you will know that they allocated some space for Clarence Hill down in St. George’s and the Honourable MP, Renee Ming was certainly happy that this took place. And I have to thank Colonel Burch for his assistance in that. But I think that which has been done for Clarence Hill is, again, I think is going to be at the end of the day something that we are going t o be proud of. We have helped one of our heroes who has certainly had his challenges along the way. And hopefully we can continue in that vein looking at our sports persons, in particular, that have a lot to do with our culture, with regard to the discipli ne that they participate in. So I encourage the Minister to continue that. And of course, I am always here to lend a helping hand. Thank you, very much.
The ChairmanChairmanMinister, you have a minute and a half. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, how much time do I have left?
The ChairmanChairmanA minute and a half. [Inaudible interjections ]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberAnswer my question now. 1524 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael A. Weeks: What was your question? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanYes? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Can I move the heads?
The ChairmanChairmanYou sure can. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: All right. Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 be approved.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 be approved. Any objection to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Social Development and Sports : Head 23, Child and Family Services; Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs; Head 55, Financial Services; and …
It has been moved that Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 be approved. Any objection to that? There appear to be none. Approved.
[Motion carried: The Ministry of Social Development and Sports : Head 23, Child and Family Services; Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs; Head 55, Financial Services; and Head 88, National Drug Control, Headquarters, w ere approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2018/19.]
Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee rise and report progress, and ask for leave to sit again.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Commi ttee rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? There appear to be none. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress, and s ought leave to …
It has been moved that the Commi ttee rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? There appear to be none. Agreed to.
[Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress, and s ought leave to sit again.]
House resumed at 8:23 pm
[Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
REPORT OF COMMITTEE
ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2018/19
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood evening, Members. Are there any objections to the Committee reporting back to the House? No objections? Then it is reported and we rise and report progress. We now move on to the next Order of the Day. I believe the next order is Order No. 3, in the name …
Good evening, Members. Are there any objections to the Committee reporting back to the House? No objections? Then it is reported and we rise and report progress. We now move on to the next Order of the Day. I believe the next order is Order No. 3, in the name of the— The Clerk: What are you doing? We ar e doing number 2?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerFor clarification, are you doing number 2? Your whip indicated that we were doing 3, 4 and 5.
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberOn the Order Paper, Mr. Speaker. The S peaker: I am going to ask you, Members, to please make sure that the House is properly informed, particularly that the Speaker is properly informed of what is being done. We were clearly indicated 3, 4, and 5. [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSo, ha ve the opposite Members been informed that [Order] No. 2 is going to be done this evening?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister, has the opposite Member been informed?
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberI had hoped Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI normally would not proceed if both sides have not had some indication of what we are going to do. So, Minister, I am really being lenient if you can give some clarification as to whether the ot her side has been informed and is prepared to do [O rder] …
I normally would not proceed if both sides have not had some indication of what we are going to do. So, Minister, I am really being lenient if you can give some clarification as to whether the ot her side has been informed and is prepared to do [O rder] No. 2 tonight. Hon. Walto n Brown: Well, Mr. Speaker, this item has been on the Order Paper for a period of time. It is a very simple and straightforward matter. There is no level of complexity in it whatsoever. So anyone who wants to be pedantic about it, then —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNo, no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. You are talking to the Speaker. The Speaker is asking for courtesy out of respect for both sides of the House. It is not a matter of the fact that it has been on the Order Paper all this time, it …
No, no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. You are talking to the Speaker. The Speaker is asking for courtesy out of respect for both sides of the House. It is not a matter of the fact that it has been on the Order Paper all this time, it is the matter of whether both sides have been properly informed and it is going to be done, because—
Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe Speaker—the Speaker had not been informed.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. SwanYes, Mr. Speaker, I have correspondence that indicates . . . and I am looking for it now to be able to indicate that [Order] No. 2 has been sent to yourself and also, Mr. Speaker, to the Opposition Whip. I have it here.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou may have a correspondence from me a little while ago, that I sent asking that, but som eone approached me and I said no, we have only been informed of 3, 4, 5. And I was looking for clarity when I sent it out. [Inaudible interjection]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNow, the questi on is going to be this: Does the Opposition have any objection to us moving on to [Order] No. 2 at this point? Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Speaker, I am ready to go.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Thank you. Minister, the other side has indicated that they are prepar ed to go even though they had not been informed. We will proceed. Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank my colleague on the other side. And I do apol ogise for my remarks …
Okay. Thank you. Minister, the other side has indicated that they are prepar ed to go even though they had not been informed. We will proceed. Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank my colleague on the other side. And I do apol ogise for my remarks earlier, Mr. Speaker, that may have been interpreted by some to be offensive. I certainly would never want to be offensive to the Speaker. It just has been a long day.
[Inaudible interjection]
DRAFT EXCHANGE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CORPORATION OF HAMILTON AND HSBC BANK BERMUDA LTD
Hon. Walton Brown: I am never offensive t o anyone. Mr. Speaker, and Honourable Members of the House, I am pleased to introduce the Draft Exchange Agreement between the Corporation of Hamilton and HSBC Bank Bermuda Ltd., a corporation existing pursuant to terms of the Municipalities Act 1923 (th e Vendor), and HSBC Bank Bermuda Ltd. (the Purchaser), a local company incorporated in Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, the Vendor and the Purchaser, wish to enter into the agreement set out in the Draft Exchange Agreement. Section 20(1A) of the Munic ipalities Act 1923, requires that “Any agreement for — [(a)] the sale of land which is the property of the Corporation; or [(b)] a lease, conveyance or other dispos ition of any interest in land which is the property of the Corporation, being a lease, disposition or conve yance expressed to be for a term exceeding twenty -one years or for terms renewable exceeding in the aggr egate twenty -one years, and any related agreement, must be submitted in draft to the Minister for approval by the Cabinet, and be approved by the Legisl ature.” Mr. Speaker, the Draft Exchange Agreement is such an agreement. It has been submitted to the Minister. It has been approved by the Cabinet, it is now before this Honourable House for its approval in accordance with section 20(1B) of the Municipal ities Act 1923, which provides that “The approval of the Legislature referred to in subsection (1A) shall be expressed by way of resolution passed by both Houses of the Legislature approving the agreement, and communicated to the Governor by message.” Mr. Speaker, this concludes my presentation on the Draft Exchange Agreement, as I said, a very simple and straightforward matter.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Moniz. You have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Speaker, sorry, maybe I sort of blinked there and missed it, but there was not much of an explanation as to exactly what is involved …
Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Moniz. You have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Speaker, sorry, maybe I sort of blinked there and missed it, but there was not much of an explanation as to exactly what is involved here. I gather it is an exchange of rights of way to do with some pipes that drain into t he harbour, et cetera. I wonder if the Minister can explain a little bit more exactly what is being done and why it is being done now, this history of it, maybe. I do not know if he has that. I am obliged.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister, contin ue on. Hon. Walton Brown: I will be happy to, Mr. Speaker. This piece of property . . . this property exchange has to do with property that is partly owned by HSBC, partly owned by the Corporation. Apparently, the sidewalk, which is meant to …
Thank you, Member. Minister, contin ue on.
Hon. Walton Brown: I will be happy to, Mr. Speaker. This piece of property . . . this property exchange has to do with property that is partly owned by HSBC, partly owned by the Corporation. Apparently, the sidewalk, which is meant to be public p roperty is actually owned by HSBC. And what HSBC has considered to be their property closer to the Albuoy’s Point area is actually Corporation property. So it is a simple swap of property to ensure that the integrity of the land that HSBC has always unders tood that it owns, actually does in fact own legally, which, in turn, might facilitate any potential purchaser who might be interested in the property.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Go ahead. 1526 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Yes, I am obliged for that, Mr. Speaker. We have no objections to it.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood. Minister . . . hold off, Minister. I recognise the Honourable Member Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -PamplinThank you. Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to clarify with the Minister’s presentation . . . it is Albuoy’s Point. And what is the actual acreage or linear footage or something? Just so that we have some idea. I think it is important from the perspective of the House we …
Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to clarify with the Minister’s presentation . . . it is Albuoy’s Point. And what is the actual acreage or linear footage or something? Just so that we have some idea. I think it is important from the perspective of the House we make sure that we have the right measurements.
Hon. Walton Brown: It is infinitely small, Mr. Speaker. It is a very small piece of land, less than .017 of an acre. It is very, very small. It is set out in the actual documents. It is just a little strip.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Any further Member wish to speak? Minister? Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am obliged for your indulgence. I now move that in accordance with subsection (1A) and (1B) of section 20 of the Municipalities Act 1923 this House approves the Exchange Agreement (the Agreement) …
Thank you, Minister. Any further Member wish to speak? Minister?
Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am obliged for your indulgence. I now move that in accordance with subsection (1A) and (1B) of section 20 of the Municipalities Act 1923 this House approves the Exchange Agreement (the Agreement) between the Corporation of Hamilton (the Vendor), and HSBC Bank Bermuda Ltd., (the Purchaser), as set out in the attached Draft of the Agreement, and that the appropriate message be sent to [His Excellency] the Governor.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAny objections to that? No objections? It is moved. [Motion carried: The House approved the Exchange Agreement between the Corporation of Hamilton and HSBC Bank Bermuda Ltd. as set out in the Draft Agreement.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay, that was [Order] No. 2, we are going to move on to [Order] No. 3, Consideration of the Marine Board (Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018, in the name of the Minister of Transport and Regulatory Affairs. Minister. REGULATIONS MARINE BOARD (SEABORNE SERVICES) AMENDMENT R EGULATIONS 2018, IN THE NAME …
Okay, that was [Order] No. 2, we are going to move on to [Order] No. 3, Consideration of the Marine Board (Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018, in the name of the Minister of Transport and Regulatory Affairs. Minister.
REGULATIONS MARINE BOARD (SEABORNE SERVICES) AMENDMENT R EGULATIONS 2018, IN THE NAME OF THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND REG ULATORY AFFAIRS
Hon. Walter H. Roban : Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that c onsideration be given to the Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board (Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be made by the Minister responsible for Marine and Port Services conferred by section 97 of the Marine Board Act 1962.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to introduce the Marine Board ( Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018. The passage of these regulations will result in an increase of 5 per cent for rates either hourly or per movement for the use of vessels, such …
Continue on, Minister.
Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to introduce the Marine Board ( Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018. The passage of these regulations will result in an increase of 5 per cent for rates either hourly or per movement for the use of vessels, such as, line boats, pilot boats, and ferries, in addition to provision of tug services, for example, berthing and unberthing, tender services to suppl ement ferry services, or for hire; and towage, salvage, or charters. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recogn ise the Honourable Deputy Opposition Leader. Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. ScottThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have no objection to the i ncreases. I would just like to ask him a question for my own personal edification. Under Part II Tugs, Berthing or Unberthing, $1,389 per movement. What is a “movement”?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Member. Minister, would you like to respond? [Laughter] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I will inform the Honourable Member what exactly it is by definition later. [Laughter] Hon. Walter H. Roban: I don’t profess to be that knowledgeable of every little variance around the m arine industry, …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Member? Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Leah K. Scott: We have no o bjection, thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister, continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I now move that the Draft Regulations be approved and that the appropriate message be sent from this House to His Excellency the Governor. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAny objections to that, Members? No objections? So moved. [Motion carried: Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board (Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018 were approved.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister, I believe the next Order is in your name as well. 1Hon. Walter H. Roban : Yes, Mr. Speaker. I move that c onsideration be given to the Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board (Pilotage Dues) Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be made by the Mini ster responsible for …
Minister, I believe the next Order is in your name as well.
1Hon. Walter H. Roban : Yes, Mr. Speaker. I move that c onsideration be given to the Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board (Pilotage Dues) Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be made by the Mini ster responsible for Marin e and Port Services conferred by section 103 of the Marine Board Act 1962.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to introduce the Marine and Ports Authority ( Port Dues ) Amendment Regulations 2018. The passage of these regulations will translate to an increase of 5 per cent for dues payable effective the 1 st of April 2018. This …
Continue, Minister.
Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to introduce the Marine and Ports Authority ( Port Dues ) Amendment Regulations 2018. The passage of these regulations will translate to an increase of 5 per cent for dues payable effective the 1 st of April 2018. This will make the port dues $588 for ships up to 100 m etres in length, plus $13.65 per metre, or part thereof, for ships in excess of 100 metr es. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak to this? I recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader. Ho nourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. ScottThank you, Mr. Speaker. These regulations ar en’t as “moving” as the previous one, but . . . we have no objection to them. Thank you. [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1 [The next two paragraphs are the transcript of the Honourable Minister's introduction, which he read in error . His co rrection is reported on the following page.] I now move that the Draft Regulations be approved and that the appropriate …
Minister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
1 [The next two paragraphs are the transcript of the Honourable Minister's introduction, which he read in error . His co rrection is reported on the following page.] I now move that the Draft Regulations be approved and that the appropriate message be sent from this House to His Excellency the Governor.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAny objections to that, Members? No objections? So moved. Minister, I believe the next Order, O rder No. 5, is in your name as well. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Just a minute, Mr. Speaker. [Pause]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The last one I think I might have . . . I think I . . . An. Hon. Member: You switched them around. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I did by accident, Mr. Speaker, I did the Pilotage Dues instead of …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, do your third— Hon. Walter H. Roban : —if you will indulge me, it’s all three anyway.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerDo the third one now. Hon. Walter H. Roban : Yes, I am sure the earth will not be moved due to the confusion . . . [Laughter]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNo. You can do the third one. Hon. Walter H. Roban : So I will just . . . I hear some chirping on the other side like there has been some great disruption. But I am sure the world will still continue. The S peaker: You’ve got the leaning …
No. You can do the third one.
Hon. Walter H. Roban : So I will just . . . I hear some chirping on the other side like there has been some great disruption. But I am sure the world will still continue. The S peaker: You’ve got the leaning of the chair so continue on while you still have it. [Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. MemberCorrect it for Hansard. MARINE AND PORTS AUTHORITY (PORT DUES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018 Hon. Walter H. Roban : Thank you very much, Mr. Spea ker. I move that c onsideration be given to the Draft Regulations entitled the Marine and Ports Authority (Port Dues) Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be …
Correct it for Hansard.
MARINE AND PORTS AUTHORITY (PORT DUES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018
Hon. Walter H. Roban : Thank you very much, Mr. Spea ker. I move that c onsideration be given to the Draft Regulations entitled the Marine and Ports Authority (Port Dues) Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be made by the Minister responsible for Marine and 1528 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of Assembly Port Services conferred by section 76 of the Marine Board Act 1962.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak to that? I recognise the Honourable Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. ScottThank you, Mr. Speaker. We, on this side, have no objection to the i ncrease.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: With that, Mr. Speaker, I move that the Draft Regulations be approved and that the appropriate message be sent from this House to His Excellency the Governor. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Any objections to that? No objections? So moved. [Motion carried: Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board ( Port Dues ) Amendment Regulations 2018 were approved.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI believe all other matters are carried over. Are we correct now?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. No third readings on those. So now, Deputy . . . would you like to stand up, take us to the motion to adjourn? ADJOURNMENT Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I move that we do now adjourn until the next sitting on Friday, the 9th of …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerDoes any Member wish to speak to that? I recognise the Honourable Member Cole S imons. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsThank you, Mr. Speak er. Mr. Speaker, as you know, I do not speak on the motion to adjourn too often.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI was surprised when I saw you rise, to tell you the truth.
Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerGo ahead, you have the floor. You have your 20 minutes. DELLWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL FACULTY SUSPENSIONS
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsI am compelled to rise today because of what is happening in Education, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I went to a funeral, and the topic of discussion by ever yone was, What is happening at Dellwood School? What is happening with the hea dmistress and three teachers going on administrative leave? …
I am compelled to rise today because of what is happening in Education, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I went to a funeral, and the topic of discussion by ever yone was, What is happening at Dellwood School? What is happening with the hea dmistress and three teachers going on administrative leave? I came to the House this morning with the hope that the Minister would have a statement in this regard. But he has been stone silent, Mr. Speaker.
Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerPoint of order? Member, you will yield for a point of order from the Minister. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : Mr. Speaker, I woul d say that the Member is misleading the House. This is a personnel matter that is under investigation, and it is …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd your point of order was that you— Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : That he is misleading the House, because he stood up and said that he expected the Minister to make a statement.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNo, that is his opinion. It is not necessarily misleading; it is his opinion, so let him express his opinion.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simon sMr. Speaker, what makes it very, very different, and very important, is that this is probably one of the first times that I can remember a principal being placed on administrative leave. It is very, very unusual from an academic point of view, and from a leadership point of view. …
Mr. Speaker, what makes it very, very different, and very important, is that this is probably one of the first times that I can remember a principal being placed on administrative leave. It is very, very unusual from an academic point of view, and from a leadership point of view. And the comm unity has taken note of this. And they are concerned as to what is going on. It is my understanding that the matter has been referred to Child and Family Services. So, again, this is of great concern to the parents, to the students, and to other teachers within the schools.
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You will yield, Member, to take a point of order from the Deputy [Speaker]?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerContinue on, Member. [Laughter]
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsMr. Speaker, the Minister cannot be hiding on this matter. The people of this country deserve an answer. Mr. Speaker, this investigation that is in place for these four professionals can last from six to eight months. What is happening at the school? Will educ ation delivery be compromised? What …
Mr. Speaker, the Minister cannot be hiding on this matter. The people of this country deserve an answer. Mr. Speaker, this investigation that is in place for these four professionals can last from six to eight months. What is happening at the school? Will educ ation delivery be compromised? What have we told the parents? What have we told the students? These are supposedly respected professionals, and, again, t he Minister of Education has said nothing. It is irrespo nsible that he behaves that way, and the people of this country deserve an answer, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also advised —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerNow, just remember that it is your opi nion that his behaviour is irresponsible. It is your opi nion.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIt is your opinion; it is not necessarily fact, but it is your opinion.
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsMr. Speaker, I understand that the Minister, having stood in his position . . . I know it is a very difficult position. And I said to him recently that I was very empathetic to his plight. But the reality is, Mr. Speaker, that we have to be transparent as …
Mr. Speaker, I understand that the Minister, having stood in his position . . . I know it is a very difficult position. And I said to him recently that I was very empathetic to his plight. But the reality is, Mr. Speaker, that we have to be transparent as Ministers. We have to keep this country abreast as to what is going on. And I think in the spirit of transparency, Mr. Speaker, he should put this country at ease. And I am saying it because I have also been advised that these professionals are not the only ones that have had challenges, and that there may be a few others out on administrative leave. I have been told there is a spate of a number of other teachers on administrative leave. Again, they stayed out from six to eight months, still on full salary. And again, this has cost government money, it is a hit o n the public purse, and these issues need to be ad-dressed. The investigation that is in place for the Child and Family Services, when they do these investigations . . . maybe it is time to look to see how we can do them more efficiently, because six to eight months is a long time to come to a conclusion, to keep people on the payroll, and compromise delivery of education in this country. So I would suggest that we look at the whole process when these sensitive issues arise and try to work with them more eff iciently.
MOULD AT DEPARTMENT OF STORES
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsMr. Speaker, the other issue that caused me grave concern, and I know it is going to cause uproar, and this is the issue of the Stores Department down at the Ministry, the mould situation. I know when I was in the seat the then Shadow Minister was howling at …
Mr. Speaker, the other issue that caused me grave concern, and I know it is going to cause uproar, and this is the issue of the Stores Department down at the Ministry, the mould situation. I know when I was in the seat the then Shadow Minister was howling at me 24/7. Now the birds have come home to roost, and he is in the same situation. But what makes this so different, Mr. Speaker, is the fact that this is a small building that can be r emediated. And to let it go this long . . . and before anyone says Oh, you could have handled it, I agree I could have handled it. But I would have handled it, had I known about it, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. N. H. Cole SimonsI sat in that seat for over three months, we talked about the Stores Department, and we talked about reviewing the management. And at no point in time did the issue of mould come up during my tenure. So I am sympathetic to the Minister that this issue has been …
I sat in that seat for over three months, we talked about the Stores Department, and we talked about reviewing the management. And at no point in time did the issue of mould come up during my tenure. So I am sympathetic to the Minister that this issue has been going on f or a while, and the fact that two employees have basically walked out because of their health, [which] is unacceptable. It is unaccept able. You have the mould pathogens there and you have mould in the books, in the supplies that have been passed on to our teachers. And you wonder why some of our teachers in the schools have been sick. It is all very much related. So, again, I know that the Minister of Works and Engineering is working with them, hopefully to get this resolved. I also know that they have mov ed the employees to another area at the BLDC. But again, this could have been avoided, Mr. Speaker, had it been raised [and brought] to the attention of the Mini ster earlier on, and not let it manifest itself where it is out of control and a threat to the employees working in that building. So, again, we have to get on top of these things and ensure that these challenges are managed more efficiently, more equitably, and that they are gi ven the attention that they need and that they are el evated to the lev el whereby they can be addressed in a timely fashion. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Minister of Educ ation. You have the floor. 1530 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rab ain: Mr. Speaker, I rise to my feet to clarify something …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Minister of Educ ation. You have the floor.
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Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rab ain: Mr. Speaker, I rise to my feet to clarify something for the listening public who had to listen to that . . . what was just said. Mr. Speaker, asbestos was discovered in the Stores [Department] Building two and a half years ago, and reported. Two and a half years ago. It was under —
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : Who? I don’t know. I think there were three OBA Ministers during that period. But what has happened, Mr. Speaker and the listening public, is that the Stores [Department ] has been moved from that asbestos building into a new building under this Government!
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. MembersYes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : Under this Government. This is a Minister and a Government that takes action, Mr. Speaker, not just plays lip servic e and tries to get headlines for being down there . . . for admitting that he was there in the seat for …
Yes.
Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : Under this Government. This is a Minister and a Government that takes action, Mr. Speaker, not just plays lip servic e and tries to get headlines for being down there . . . for admitting that he was there in the seat for three months and did not know anything that was going on. That is exactly what he just admitted! So, why he chose to stand up absolutely baffles me. I cannot understand . . . why would a former Minister stand up and say, I sat in that seat for three months and I didn’t know anything? What was the purpose of that? But anyway, Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWait, wait, wait, wait! [Gavel]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerTake your seat. Take your seat. The Minister . . . you rose asking for a point of clarification, the Minister indicated he is not going to take a clarification. Once he indicated he would not, he will continue on. It’s his courtesy. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. …
Take your seat. Take your seat. The Minister . . . you rose asking for a point of clarification, the Minister indicated he is not going to take a clarification. Once he indicated he would not, he will continue on. It’s his courtesy. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And this Government will continue to clean up the mess that that side left with Education, and we will continue to do the things that are in the best interest of our children and for the workers of the Department of Education and the Ministry of Education. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for allowing the former Member to get up and let us know that he didn’t know anything for three months, because he has now made it very clear to me exactly what was not going on down at the Ministry of Education by the former Government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister . Does any other Member wish to speak? The Honourab le Member Moniz, you have the floor. DELLWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL FACULTY SUSPENSIONS Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to go back to the area of the suspensions at Dellwood. It is an …
Thank you, Minister . Does any other Member wish to speak? The Honourab le Member Moniz, you have the floor.
DELLWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL FACULTY SUSPENSIONS
Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to go back to the area of the suspensions at Dellwood. It is an area that gives me some concern. As the Shado w Minister said, it is a very unusual situation; it is not usual that you would see a principal suspended in such a situation. I am certainly not aware of it happening before. It is certai nly unusual that you would have four suspensions at the same time. Now, I noticed in the daily paper there were some remarks by, I think it is the General Secretary of the Bermuda Union of Teachers, saying that he hoped there would be some clarification publicly before r umours began to fly. Of course, in the comments under the story it says, Well, it’s too late for that; the rumours are already out there. So, the Minister can run, but he cannot hide from this one. I remember on a previous occasion when we were having difficulty with the appointment of an Education Commis sioner, and some difficulty with Mr. Freddy Evans, at that time the Minister was running and hiding and he was saying, Well, I can’t speak about it because it is a personnel matter. But all of a sudden one day I saw him on TV. He was not there with a civi l servant, he was not there with any of the Education Board, saying, Oh, I am a nnouncing the appointment of an Acting Commissioner of Education. It is Kalmar Richards. Well, l thought, My goodness, that’s strange. He is making that announcement when he had said there was actually nothing to do with him, and he couldn’t talk about it for so long. So I am wondering if
Bermuda House of Assembly it is a similar situation where he is saying he is not allowed to talk about it. I think there is a larger picture. I take the point that he m ay not be able to speak to certain specifics of investigations, but I think the people of this country, and the parents of children in the public schools, are entitled to some comfort from the Minister to say that even if he only stands up to say that due process is taking place, the public deserves some sort of an answer. He can’t run and hide. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? I recognise the Premier. You have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a saying that my colleagues in Cabinet know. There is a saying that my …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? I recognise the Premier. You have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a saying that my colleagues in Cabinet know. There is a saying that my caucus colleagues know, and there is a statement that I am going to make sure that the people of Bermuda know. And it is the way of our approach to Gover nment. And our approach to Government is going to try to be as least traumatic as possible, as least drama as possible, and the least theatrics as possible. The rea-son why, Mr. Speaker, is because these are serious, serious is sues. Now, for a former Minister of Education and for a former Attorney General to get up here, knowing precisely the situation of which we are dealing with underneath the Children Act, precisely the confident iality provisions that are built in, but standing up here to score political points, for them, Mr. Speaker, it is shameful. Absolutely shameful. It is very upsetting for this Government right now, for the situation that exists. And we are going to do our best to resolve it. The fact of the matter is, and I will quote other persons, is that quite plain and simple, actual offend-ers are given better treatment than was given to a very outstanding principal today by the Royal Gazette. And the fact that the General Secretary of Bermuda Union of Teachers would make a statement about someone who is not underneath his leadership, and would say that he is going to hope that it gets clarified so that rumours don’t start, when he, himself, has started the rumour, is even more shameful. So, my hope, Mr. Speaker, is that not only will the Members opposite, but will people inside of pos ition of responsibility understand the situation with which we are faced. It is very simple. There is a matter. There are teachers that are on administrative leave. And when the issue is completed and dealt with, the statements will be made. There are not situations where we can say certain things and the Members opposite know that. The Member who spoke first as a former Mi nister of Education knows that. The former Attorney General, who supposedly understand the laws of this country, knows that. So let’s have a little bit of dec orum. Let’s have a little bit of respect. Let’s understand that we are dealing with parents, we are dealing with our young people, we ar e dealing with our future. And the last thing that we should do is to come up here and promulgate further rumours to attempt to damage people’s reputation further, Mr. Speaker. This is a place of business in this House. And let’s do the people’s business well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Mr. Premier. The House now stands adjourned until 10:00 am on Friday. [At 8:56 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 9 March 2018 .] 1532 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentional ly left blank.]