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March 7, 2018

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 7, 2018
Session 2017/2018
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425 speeches from 21 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members . Members, the Minutes from the 2nd of March sitting have been circulated. Are there any omissions or amendments? No omissions or amendments. The Minutes have been approved. [Minutes of 2 March 2018 confirmed]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes from the 5th of March have been deferred. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING HOUSE VISITORS
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Good morning, Members. I would just like to first announce that we have in our presence today one of the members of the Youth Parliament, who will be paging for us this mor ning. It is young Ms. McKenzie [ Kohl-]Tuckett. And as a Youth Parliament member, she serves …
The Speaker The Speaker Good. We would also like to welcome, in our G allery, the P5 class of Port Royal, fifth grade, under the tut elage of M s. Shastri and Ms. McDonald . We welcome you t oday and hope that you enjoy your time with us here this morning, observing the …
The Speaker The Speaker Our third announcement would be that we have received acknowledgement from three of our Members that they wi ll be absent today: Minister Caines; t he Government Whip, Mr. Lawrence Scott; and MP Commissiong all have sent in notice that they will be absent today. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker We have six papers to be presented to the House this morning. The first two are in the name of the Premier. Honourable Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. GOVERNMENT FEES (TRADE MARKS AND SERVICE MARKS) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to at-tach and submit for the consideration of the Honour able House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you do the second one? GOVERNMENT FEES AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the 1442 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next paper or communication is in the name of the Honourable Minister Weeks. Minister, would you like to present it? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker , good morning. Good morning, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. 2017 ANNUAL REPORT OF THE BERMUD A DRUG INFORMATION NETWORK (BerDIN) Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker , I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the 2017 Annual Report of the Bermuda Drug Information Networ …
The Speaker The Speaker Actually, there are four in your name. So you can continue on. BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDING 31 MARCH 2017 Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes. I have the honour to attach a nd submit for the information of the Honour able House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Continue on. BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOPING AUTHORITY 2017 ANNUAL REPORT Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker , I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Sport Anti-Doping Authority 2017 Annual Report.
Mr. Speaker . The Speaker Yes. BERMUDA SPORT ANTI -DOP ING AUTHORITY AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDING 31 MARCH 2016 Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Sport Anti -Doping Authority Audited Financial St atements for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker No further papers or communications. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker Statements by Ministers. We have two Statements this morning. And, Minister Weeks, it looks like you are on the floor again. Would you like to present your Stat ement? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker . [Pause] Hon. Micha el A. Weeks: It is a good thing I brought …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, Minister. DECRIMINALISATION OF POSSESSION OF CANNABIS Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker , I rise this morning to inform Honourable Members that the Mi nistry of Social Development and Sport has launched a public awareness campaign on the decriminalisation of possession of small amounts of cannabis. On Monday, February …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next S tatement is that in the name of the Honourable Minister of Health. Minister Wilson, would you like to present your Statement? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. REVIEW OF HEALTH COSTS AND CONVERTING THE BERMUDA HOSP ITALS BOARD FEES TO THE RELATIVE VALUE SYSTEM Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker , I rise today to highlight to this Honourable House and the public my Ministry’s intention to undertake a significant modernisation of the Bermuda Hospitals …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. No further Statements. We can move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are no written questions for t oday. However, we have one Member who has indica ted that he would like to put a question in regard to the Statements that were delivered this morning. The question would be to the Honourable Mi nister Weeks, and the question will come …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Mr. Speaker, on page 3 of the Honourable Member’s Statement on the decriminalisation of cannabis for less than 7 grams, he says, “Mr. Speaker, it is our hope and our belief that taking this important action will help to prevent our young people, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Hold on one second, Minister, I am just let ting the page come back over . . . y ou can stay on this side for the time being. Thank you. Minister, would you like to respond? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Up …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Member, supplementary or new question?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. SUPPLEMENTARY
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Mr. Speaker, I guess I would ask the Member why he believes it is his belief that taking this important action will help this if he has not actually had any discussions with the US Cons ulate here. I think we all recognise that, under Federal US Law, marijuana cannabis …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Oh, Premier. Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am answering for the Mini ster, as external affairs falls under the remit of the Cabinet Of fice. And what I can let the Member know is that those discussions …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons I will take a new question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker New question.
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on. Someone else wants to do a supplementary.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, that is fine.
The Speaker The Speaker Let us do the supplementary first. I recognise the Honourable Member Cole S imons. Honourable Member, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I was Minister, I spoke to the US Consul General on that. And s he indicated to me that she had seen draft legislation . . .
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Put the question! [Inaudible interjections ]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I am going to get to the question.
The Speaker The Speaker Give him time. He is making his question. Go ahead; formulate your question.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons She had seen this draft legi slation and was taking an opinion from the US Attorney General’s Office. So the question that should be asked is, has the American Consul General received an opinion from the US Atto rney General in regard to the legisl ation that we are putting …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.Though I have many talents, one is not changing my persona. I cannot answer ques tions for the US Consul General.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary, anyone? No supplementary. We will move back to Honourable Member Gibbons for his second question. QUESTION 2: DECRIMINALISATION OF POSSESSION OF CANNABIS
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, along similar lines, but I will put it in a new question. Mr. Speaker, all of us are aware that the US authorities here have not necessarily r elied on a conviction to put somebody on the stop list.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Exactly!
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons And I am wondering whether there has been any discussion as to . . . I mean, the drug is still illegal in Bermuda. And whether there has been any sense that this is actually going to make much of a difference, I think w e all understand, clearly, if …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Four ounces there!
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Members.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons But I am curious as to whether there has been anything which would suggest that there has been a change in direction with respect to the US Government’s approach with Bermuda em igration. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, thank you. I think I answered the question the first time, but it just sounds like I get the same question, just put up a different way. I have not had the opportunity yet to speak to the American Consul …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons: Supplementary, yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons The Honourable Member did not answer my question. I am quite happy to have the Premier to answer the question, since he seems to have had additional conversations with the US au-thorities here. The question is, you do not require a criminal conviction here to be put on the stop …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Mr. Premier, I think he put the question to you. Would you like to r espond? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the question has already been answered to the Member . I have not seen . . . if he wants to change how he asks it, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Supplementary, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member did not answer the question. So, hopefully, when things change he will come back to the House, after having (I will say) a further discussion with the US authorities, to let us know whether this is going to make much of a difference or not. …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary from the Honourable Member, Ms. Jackson. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker, yes. So, my question to the Minister is, has the Minister considered some kind of protection, identity protection, for minors or young adults who may be identified as having possession of cannabis, and r efraining from publicly stating their name in any way, shape, or form, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minors are protected right across the board, generally speaking. So I do not think that we would treat any minors that are caught with possession of cannabis any differently.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So, this kind of protection of identity would probably [need to] be something that would be legislated, because this would be something that says that, if there was an arrest on a weekend, then any kind of newspaper, any other sort of official news agency or channel of communication would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Okay. We have got another supplementary to you. It is from the Leader of the Opposition. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is t o the Minister. I am going on my memory, but it would seem to me that when we made one of the changes, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Statement, it said that any child, any minor who is caught with any amount of cannabis is subject to drug education by a police officer, by any authority figure. So, yes, yes. According to what I said …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Supplementary, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary, Honourable Member, the Leader of the Opposition. 1448 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Just so that I am clear, it is not so much having the drug education, but the pr otection of their identities. And I think that …
The Speaker The Speaker Put it in a question. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So, can the Minister confirm that, in addition to making sure that these indivi duals have drug education, something is put in place to protect their identities because they are minors?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Okay. We will take a supplementary from the Honourable Member. Mrs. Gordon- Pamplin, y ou have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member answered Yes. Could the Honourable Member be specific in terms of exactly what has been put in place?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I recognise t he Honourable Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member Scott. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All Members of the Opposition putting these probing questions really should just read the Bill again. We cannot legislate on the seat of our pants, here in the …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, I recognised you, but the Mi nister or Premier or a Minister will respond. You have to put your comment in a question. Hon. Michael J. Scott: I will p ose the question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Have Members of the Opposition, all who have put their last few …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, I did allow some leniency, because I asked you to put it into a question. But the question should go to the reader of the Statement. And that would be to the Minister. So the question has to go to the Minister. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, let me be clear, if I may. One of my colleagues has reminded me about the regulations that will be accompanying this Bill. So, like my colleague who just sat down . . . [there] was a full and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any supplementary? Supplementary or new question?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Mr. Speaker, new question.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. QUESTION 3: DECRIMINALISATION OF POSSESSION OF CANNABIS
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons On page 4, the Honourable Member reminds people that a police officer of any rank has the lawful authority to seize any amount of cannabis in the possession of any person, including young persons. Could the Honourable Member share with us, since the legislation has been brought into force, the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, I will seek to get that information, and I will bring it. Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Supplementary.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson To the Minister: Will there be, or would you please provide, statistics on any cannabis-induced psychosis, including diagnosis of schiz ophrenia, which may now be on- Island due to this?
The Speaker The Speaker Member, I am not sure if that relates to the Statement that was read, though. [Inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker It may be outside of the parameters of the Statement. Supplementary? Yes, go ahead. I recognise the Honourable Member Baron. [Inaudible interjections ]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Point of clarification.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, the very last sentence on the Statement, and I am very glad to see it ther e, says, “Government will continue to raise pu blic awareness in relation to health risks associated with substance abuse in adolescents.” And that is a new sentence that has been added, and …
The Speaker The Speaker And being you pointed it out, I stand corrected. The [Statement] opens up a conversation in reference to the health issue. Your ques tion speaks to the health issue, s o continue with your question. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. So, if the Minister can provide to the House statistics on any cannabis -induced psychosis, including diagnosis of schizophrenia, of any people who have been diagnosed with a psychosis based on cannabis use.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will undertake to get that information. But can I read something from my Statement?
The Speaker The Speaker Sure. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: It says, “Government will continue to raise public awareness in relat ion to health risks associated with substance abuse in adolescents.” But I will undertake to get any other information that has been asked for, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Honourable Member Baron, would you like to put your question now?
Mr. Je ff Baron Yes, supplementary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jeff Baron And for the benefit of the House and for the Minister, the research is just here. You have tabled the book. The stats are here. My question— An Hon. M ember: Why do you ask the question? [Inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker Let him put his question. Let him put his question, gentlemen. He has the floor. The Honourable Member has the floor. [Crosstalk]
Mr. Jeff Baron Clearly, the Minister should k now. He has tabled it. Clearly, the Minister should know. He has tabled it, Premier. Premier, the Mini ster should know. He has tabled the book. [Desk thumping and inaudible interjections ]
Mr. Jeff Baron Yes, yes, yes. I love it when the Premier flirts with me. Mr. Speaker, my question. My question is this, because I support the intent of this Bill, and I have been on record for supporting it. Can the Honourable Minister please, Mr. Speaker, tell us, because we have talked …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. 1450 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael A. Weeks: As the Minister, I will def initely help to continue to educate and bring public awareness of the facts of marijuana smoking.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further supplementaries? Any further supplementaries? And the Member who put the ques-tion has used his three questions. So that brings us to the end of the question period. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member like to speak to this? I recognise the Honourable Premier. Honourable Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask that the House extend condolences to the family of a past war veteran, Mr. Herbert James …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member wish to speak to congratulations or condolences? No other Member? I recognise the H onour able Member from constituency 36. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, on the last session of the …
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, no. Hon. Michael J. Scott: He certainly ran for, went for elections and was active in his civic life of the country that he and his wife, Kim, loved. Mr. Speaker, both Kim Young and her husband Ward, and Kim Young in particular, partnered, Mr. Speaker, in one …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak on condolences and congratulations? Bermuda House of Assembly I recognise the Honourable Member Dunkley. Honourable Member Dunkley, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too want to be associated with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to request the Hous e to record a note of condolences for the family of Alfred Augustus. Mr. Augustus ––I think the Augustus family is …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I think we all know the Augustus family well.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Alfred Augustus was one of their senior members. I had a chance very recently to see him and speak with him as he was in care in a home within my district. And, obviously, it is always humbling to see many of our senior …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 22. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be associated with the condolences to the family of Mr. Tatem. He was actually a constituent of mine for a number of years before Paget East moved west. He lived down there at the foot of the lane where …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Weeks. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1452 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I would first like to be associated with the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2. Honourable Member Swan, you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned, I would like to be associated with the condolences offered by the Member from constituency 10, Honourable Member Dunkley, on t he passing of Mr. Hayward. But also, I would like to be associated with the condolences that were offered …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank yo u. Thank you. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? No other Honourable Member wishes to speak? We will move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker We have three Government Bills to be introduced today. Premier, I believe all three are in your name. FIRST READINGS BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Indeed, Mr. Speaker, they are. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Continue on. COST OF LIVING COMMISSION AMENDMENT ACT 2018 CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2018 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have two other Bills that I will be introducing for their first reading so that they may also be placed on the Order Paper for the next …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker We are now, Members, at the point of Orders of the Day. We are going to resume in Committee of Supply for the further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2018/19. I recognise the Honourable Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. And for the awareness of the li stening audience, I would just li ke to say that today is day 5 of the continuing Budget Debate. And we have two ministries up for the debate today, the first being the Ministry of Finance. There are four hours allotted for …
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. MINISTRY OF FINANCE HEAD 10 —MINISTRY OF FINANCE HEADQUARTERS Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Chairman, the 2018/19 Estimates for the Ministry of Finance Headquarters, Head 10, may be found in section B of the Estimates Book on pages B -99 …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Thank you. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. E. David Burt: No problem. The Ministry of Finance comprises six departments, led by the Ministry of Finance Headquarters, and includes the Accountant General, Cus toms Revenue, Social Insurance, the Office of the Tax Commissioner and the Registrar of Companies . Allocations to cover the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Would anyone like to speak to the heads? Just for the listening audience, we are deba ting Finance, and the Heads are 10, 12, 38, and 58. The Chair now recognises the Leader of the Opposition, of constituency 19, Jeanne Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, …
The Chairman Chairman While you are taking a break there, may I just put out there whether you would like to have these questions answered before lunch? Or do you want to continue speaking and then carry over? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, I will continue. And then they can be all answered. …
The Chairman Chairman No. We will have five minutes. I just did not know if you wanted answers before lunch. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: No, no. I do not want them answered right at this minute. I will just continue. On page B -100, and although the Minister did go down a lot …
The Chairman Chairman Opposition Leader, while you are taking a pause there, it is l unchtime. So, would you give leave? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, yes.
The Chairman Chairman Thanks. Minister of Finance. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move that the House now adjourn, to come back at two o’clock, after lunc h.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. We will be back at two o’clock, after lunch. Thanks. Proceedings suspended at 12:32 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:03 pm [Ms. Susan E. Jackson, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2018/19 MINISTRY OF FINANCE [Continuation thereof]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members. We are back in Committee of Supply, and we will continue with the debate on Finance. We are debating Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. I now yield to and recognise the Le ader of the Opposition from constituency 19, Jeanne Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank …
The Chairman Chairman Please continue. 1470 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeann e J. Atherden: Okay, on page 11 of the Minister’s brief he also indicated that the Government was going to come in, that the projected operating expenses were going to be $921 million, which was …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you for the clarification. Member, you may proceed. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, but I mean most times when one is talking about expenditures and exceeding, one is thinking of them going upwards rather than going down. But that is fine. But I think this is — [Inaudible interjection] …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry one voice. There is one Member on her feet speaking—one voice —that is all we should hear. Member, you may proceed. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: In terms of trying to get clarity . . . because it is not just clarity in this House. It is also clarity for …
The Chairman Chairman Madam Opposition Leader, while you are looking for your place, I just want to say that this debate concludes at 4:29 pm. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay, good, thank you,
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Cont inue on. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you. Just before I leave the pensions, in terms of reviewing the existing retirement age under the N ational Pension Scheme legislation, I think that is another one which, especially right now where we are having is sues with respect to whether …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member , not to interrupt, but B -109 is Head 12 and B -98 refers to the Summary of all Ministry Heads. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, I was actually star ting there so that I could actually just remind all of us that if you go to B …
The Chairman Chairman We are moving to B -113, we are d ebating Head 38, we are under Finance. This debate goes until 4:29 pm. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Right, okay. So, this . . . I am going back to B-98, just because that is where …
The Chairman Chairman Continue on, Opposition Leader. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Chairman, I am glad that the Finance Minister said that because, irrespective of what might have happened before in terms of 2016/17, 2017/18, which is where the current Government is in place, they had the budget available to them and the …
The Chairman Chairman And you are reading from? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am reading from the Fi scal Responsibility Panel, okay?
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Jeanne J. Athe rden: And then there is an ind ication here, and it says . . . and I am reading this for two reasons; not just the one that they think I am going to read it for. It says that —
The Chairman Chairman Which page are you on? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is page 20. It says: “Last year’s Panel Report emphasised the continuing importance of efforts to prioritize more effectively government budgetary allocations to ‘address inefficiencies and to demonstrate the Government’s commitment to improve efficiency and reduce w aste.’ The then …
The Chairman Chairman Still on Head 38? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, I still am, I am just going to put my other notes here.
The Chairman Chairman We are on Finance, debating Head 38 on pa ge B-113. This debate concludes at 4:29 pm. The Opposition Leader, the Shadow Finance Minister, has the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Now the Finance Minister did clarify the fact that the cruise ship departures were going up. And that was …
The Chairman Chairman The Betting Tax Tariffs. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, yes, the Betting Tax. Now I do want to leave some time because I know that one of my other colleagues wa nt to be able to ask some questions. This is 8051. Could the Minister just clarify, the Airport Departure? …
The Chairman Chairman Okay, 8051 on page B — Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: —B-115.—
The Chairman Chairman —115. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Okay, then 8033, the H otel Occupancy Tax. And this gets back to . . . we were talking about America’s Cup, and we were talking about whether there were other things that are com-ing. Hotel Occupancy Tax, 8033. The actual for 2016/17 was …
The Chairman Chairman Continue on. I am listening to you. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: One can forecast debt very easily. You do not have to wait until the bell closes. You know exactly what it is going to be. So, from that perspective, what I wanted the Minister to just clarify was . …
The Chairman Chairman Continue on. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: So, Mr. Chairman, if there is the opportunity to talk about whether there is going to be any paying down of some of what we call the “expensive debt,” and, as I say, I know the Minister has indicated that he is going to …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. It is three o’clock. We are debating Finance, Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member from constituency . . . 22?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons That is right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and good afternoon. Mr. Chairman, I have a number of topics that I would like to cover with the various heads under the Ministry of Finance, but I thought I would start on the issue of tax, Tax Commissioner, which is on B …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons I guess for the avoi dance of doubt, I should declare interest as a taxpayer. Hopefully all of us are in this particular place. I was sitting there thinking of . . . [being] reminded of the famous quote from [Russell] Long, one of the governors of Louisia na, who …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes. I think it is 99, isn’t it?
The Chairman Chairman It is 3:15 [pm] and we are on Ministry of Finance. The Honourable Member from constituency [22] has the floor. You are going to . . .
The Chairman Chairman B-99.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Under Pensions. It is the grant underneath that. Let me just start on a broader note here. The issue of pension reform has been talked about at least for a couple of years now. Some of the work of the Pension Commission goes back probably two or three years on …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Sorry? [Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Dr. E. Gra nt Gibbons Yes. So the issue here is other countries that would be comparable. The Caymans have done this for a number of years. The interesting thing is the fact that nonBermudians did not have to contribute to a pension plan has often been cited as one reason that (I will say) …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Sorry? [Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons The Harry Viera scheme. Yes. You know, I do not want to detract from it. It does what it was intended to do, which is a suppl ement to somebody’s retirement plan. But if you do not have another retirement plan, if you are really an employee that was there …
The Chairman Chairman I just want to say [that] we are on F inance and there is about 55 minutes left for this debate.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Okay. I wish to assure you that I will not take the 55 minutes. A couple of other questions, if I may. The Mi nister said this morning that the consultants for the EU in the UK have now been moved to the Cabinet O ffice. I could n ot …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. We are on Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58 coming under the Ministry of Finance. Does any other Member care to speak to this . . . No other Member? We will recognise the Mi nister of Finance. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman And this debate will go until 4:29, on Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58, under the Ministry of F inance. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I think it is interesting that the Opposition spoke for longer than the Government did on this particular matter. I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ooh! Hon. E. David Burt: Well, you know. They said he is retiring, stepping down.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons In your dreams. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, in your dreams! Oh, you just crushed someone’s poor heart there. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: From constituency 22. I am quite sure that the former Chairman of the Bermuda Ec onomic Development Corporation was looking forward to sitting inside of your …
The Chairman Chairman Point of clarification? POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes. I think what . . . I did know that from the Superannu ation you could draw down, but it was the question about the, what I call, the . . . the social insurance. And the reason I …
The Chairman Chairman Continue on. We are on Finance. This debate concludes a t 4:29. We also have a new Page in the House. (Just looking to see if I see him.) His name is Yassine Chentouf from . . . yes, welcome. Glad to have you here from BHS. [Desk thumping] Hon. …
The Chairman Chairman Opposition Leader? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I want to get the . . . it was the land tax. I just want to get the page. It was . . . ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN HOUSE VISITOR
The Chairman Chairman While we are waiting, I just want to acknowledge former Senator Llewellyn Peniston in the Gallery. And current Senator, [Justin] Mathias in the Chamber. [Desk thumping] [Continuation of Committee of Supply ] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This is . . . I am on page B-115, and there were two …
The Chairman Chairman Let the Honourable [Minister] yield first. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Member. Will you — Hon. E. David Burt: Are you clarifying? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, I am clarifying. Hon. E. David Burt: I will yield. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: That was why my question was, …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Premier, we do have 30 minutes remaining for this debate. Hon. E. David Burt: Would you like me to talk for the next 30? [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Are you just reminding me? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Pardon me? The Chairman: It is your prerogative. Hon. …
The Chairman Chairman Premier, what line item are you on? Hon. E. David Burt: We are on line item . . . I said we are on page B -113, according to the honourable former Attorney General, I think that we ar e on the line item that is discussing mandatory retirement ages. …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Mr. Chairman, if I may, just a point of clarification. Hon. E. David Burt: I will yield.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. I guess the question was, will the fee that is going to be charged on a per capita basis for me mbers in the schemes . . . will that essentially eliminate the need …
The Chairman Chairman Constituency 22. Hon. E. D avid Burt: Constituency 22, sorry. Honourable Member from constituency 22, who talked about the need to simplify taxes. I just thought it was funny because it is almost as though if they break it and then tell us that we need to fix it. Now, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Premier. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 9. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I would like to speak with particular reference to the Office of the Tax Commissioner, which is Head 38 (it is on B -98) with respect to the …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Honourable Member from constituency 29. Am I correct? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Yes, that is correct. Good memory. Good memory, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I j ust want to make a couple of quick points. I know that we have a few …
The Chairman Chairman What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives] Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: You know, he seems to be imputing improper motives and using unparliamentary language.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, you know what? If the hat fits, wea r it, Mr. Chairman. I did not mention any improper motives; I said he might have been busy shredding papers. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Chairman, point of order, point of order. We …
The Chairman Chairman All right. It is 4:15. We are on F inance, Heads 10, 12, 38, and 58. We have had a very productive debate on Finance. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, yes, it has been very productive, indeed! In fact, the Honourable Member, the former Attorney General, talks about …
The Chairman Chairman Do you have a point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Yes, point of order. I believe that the speaker is not dealing with the budget which is what we are supposed to be talking about today and I do not understand about fuzzing up any numbers.
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member, we have only about seven more minutes left. And if you could speak line items and just — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. And I will not be long.
The Chairman Chairman —wrap it up. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And just to put the fuzzy in the numbers to bed, it was the former Finance Mini ster that said that he fuzzied up the numbers. He made statement in this House. He said he fuzzied the num-bers. It is accounting …
The Chairman Chairman B-99. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, I am actually on B -98, Head 10, Ministry Headquarters. That is what I am talking about. But the Honourable Opposition Leader when she got up to speak . . . one of things that really threw me was when she talked …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Point of order.
The Chairman Chairman What is your point of order, Mr. [Gi bbons]? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons The H onourable Member is misleading the House. When he was in Government, the professional services line was well over $100 million. The former OBA Government had to reduce that over a number of years. So talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Hon. Zan e J. S. De …
The Chairman Chairman Continue on. You have a few more minutes left. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: David Duke’s protégée. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That is right. So . . . but let me say this. What they did not do, and what they did not . . …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 10, 12, 38 and 58 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 10, 12, 38 and 58 under the Minist ry of Finance be approved. Any objections? No objections. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman So moved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Finance: Head 10, Headquarters; Head 12, Customs Revenue; Head 38, Office of the Tax Commissioner; and H ead 58, Interest on Debt, were approved and stand part of the E stimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2018/19.]
The Chairman Chairman We now move on to Social Development which are Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 which will be led by Minister Michael Weeks, but before we do that there will be change in the Chair. [Pause] [Ms. Leah K. Scott, Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for fiscal year 2018 /19. Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 are now to be d ebated. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Mi nister, you have the floor. …
The Chairman Chairman [It will end] at 8:23. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, I move the following heads. Head 23, Child and Family Services; Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs; Head 55, Financial Assistance; and Head 88, National Drug Control be now taken under consideration. HEAD 23 …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear! Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Although not a large department, the staff work extremely hard and are committed to serve the public with excellence. That ends Head 52. HEAD 55 —DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Chairman, I will now present the Estimates of Expenditure and …
Mr. Jeff Baron Point of clarification, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman One second. Will you yield to a point of clarification? Carry on. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Jeff Baron Thank you. I thank the Honourable Minister. My comments this morning were regarding the comments from the Member for constituency 22 about the amount of . . . those persons who were arrested for cannabis, not the induced psychosis. So if there was a confusion, I apologise. It was regarding …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. We have got it covered.
Mr. Jeff Baron Yes, thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Minister, carry on. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Chairman, I have a point of order and clarifi cation as well. The Honourable Member who just took his seat, Mr. Baron, and his colleague from . . . I don’t know . . . Susan Jackson . . . …
Mr. Jeff Baron Point of order.
The Chairman Chairman What is your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Jeff Baron He is misleading the House and Ha nsard will show that.
The Chairman Chairman Carry o n, Member. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, carry on. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For the Hansard, I need to finish reading—
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, Minister, you may complete it. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. I will start from the beginning for the sake of Hansard. The NDC advises that it currently does not collect information on marijuana- related psychosis and juveniles because it has not been specified as one of the standard …
The Chairman Chairman Member, what head and cost [centre] are you speaking from? I am trying to follow you, that’s all. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: It is Head 88.
The Chairman Chairman Head 88. Yes. And what unit? Are you on [page] B -268? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I am on–
The Chairman Chairman You are talking about the staff nu mbers. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: And I started from page B - 266.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, t he department employs 27 staff. The d epartment al headquarters is presently staffed by a director , five technical officers and one full-time administrative staff. Direct staffing support to the Nelson Bascome [Centre for Substance Abuse] Treat ment facility …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. Are there any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Ben Smith.
Mr. Ben Smith Good evening, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Good evening.
Mr. Ben Smith I wou ld like to start on Head 23, D epartment of Child and Family Services.
The Chairman Chairman Continue.
Mr. Ben Smith [Business unit] 33010, Happy Valley Child Care. The Minister spoke to a reduction in the cost for Happy Valley of $27,000 and he spoke to the changes is some of the services, potentially food and that kind of service. I wondered if he would give a little bit more detail …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue.
Mr. Ben Smith Can the Minister speak to the primary cause of children moving into the foster care pr ogramme? What is the plan for c hildren who age out of foster care? What kind of support do the kids who age out of that programme receive? Are they taught life skills that …
Mr. Ben Smith One second, Mr. Chairman. I am going to move on to Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs.
The Chairman Chairman Which page are you talking about, Member?
Mr. Ben Smith B-256.
The Chairman Chairman B-255? Okay, continue.
Mr. Ben Smith Under 62080, Research and Public ation. What is the cost of the Mary Prince research pr oject, and what is the time frame for completion? Once completed, will this be included in the school curric ulum? I note that there was a reduction in professional services. Can the Minister speak …
The Chairman Chairman Are you moving to another one now, Honourable Member?
Mr. Ben Smith So, under Financial Assistance, specifically Social Assistance, 7042 on page C -19 . . .
The Chairman Chairman Continue.
Mr. Ben Smith The Minister spoke to the fact that there has been abuse of the system that has happened. Can he give us some indication of what types of abuse, what fraud has actually happened? He used the word “fraud” so I am just following along with it . . . the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, continue.
Mr. Ben Smith Just some further detail on how that programme is going to be . . . what is the impact? Who is going to be involved in it? Obviously, it has a big budget number. So just looking to s ee what is going to be added by moving to that …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Member.
Mr. Ben Smith Still . . . I am going to go back to C - 19. There were visits to homes. What is the purpose of the visit? What are the requirements for the house?
The Chairman Chairman Which programme—
Mr. Ben Smith Under Social Assistance.
The Chairman Chairman Which number? [Is it] 6869?
Mr. Ben Smith [It is] 7042. On C -19.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, I have C -19.
Mr. Ben Smith Just what are the requirements for a household, just so we have an understanding of what they are looking for and what happens if the hous ehold is not meeting the requirements that are necessary?
The Chairman Chairman Okay.
Mr. Ben Smith With that I am going to take my seat.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Any further speakers? We now have the Honourable Member, Patr icia Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I thank the Minister for the detailed presentation in terms of Head 23. I am going to go to Child and Family Services, on the theme of asking the question on the Subjective Analysis on page B -251 with respect to salaries. I did ask …
The Chairman Chairman Member, what is the question? The Minister did explain the different subjective analysis quite clearly, so I am just w ondering what the question is.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Right. So my question is that I just wanted to underscore the fact that the Minister had indicated based on previous requests for information that the 2.5 per cent uptick is not included in this budget number. So we are showing, albeit there is a 2.5 per cent award, as …
The Chairman Chairman What is your point — POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Just for clarification. I just want to ask the Member . . . you are saying that the 2.5 [p er cent increase] for salary is not included where?
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin If I may explain that, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Okay. In the salaries number, last year we had $8,896,000 as salaries. Th is is on page B -251 under Child and Family Services, Head 23, Subjective Analysis, first line, third column in, 8896 is last year. If we take that as being the base, and there is a 2.5 …
The Chairman Chairman Member, your question . . . and I know you are being very consistent —
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Yes . . . no, the Honourable Member just asked me what was the reason. 1514 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: One second. You have been very consistent with that question, I think on every head you have gotten up on. So I …
The Chairman Chairman Junior Minister, can you answer that so we can dispense with that? Can you answer that, Junior Minister? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It is included in the r evised amount.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin In which case, Mr. Chairman . . . thank you for the answer. That means that the numbers do not add up, because 2.5 per cent on 8896 would be 222 more.
The Chairman Chairman We are not going to do the mathematics.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin No. I mean if the idea is to delve into the numbers, then I have to ask the question why, if 2.5 per cent of $8.8 million is $222,000, why are we going down by 81? That gives us a $300,000 swing, and that number does not make sense. I …
The Chairman Chairman Which page?
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin I’m sorry. This is on page B -265, which is Financial Assistanc e.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin And the grant . . . I’m sorry, [B]- 263, I beg your pardon. And the grant for Financial Assistance under programme 65050, Grants Administration . . . the amount that has been allocated is $48,512,000. Now, while this number . . . the Government did announce that they are …
The Chairman Chairman Member, you are being repetitive. That question has already been asked, and leave it for the Minister to answer.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin I did not hear that question.
The Chairman Chairman Brother Smith did that.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Okay. Then, I did not write down every question that he asked, so I do apologise.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mrs. Patricia J. Go rdon -Pamplin Okay. Now, the Minister indicated that the staffing complement precluded some of the home visits and some of the assistant site visits. And the question is, Of the staffing complement, what is the average cas eload? Is it getting better? I think that in the numbers of 1516 7 March …
The Chairman Chairman The policy has not changed since the Government has changed, you know.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin I am asking the question. I am not suggesting that the policy has not changed; I am asking a question. And the question is . . . the 5 per week and the 12 per week job searches that are being required . . . I have said it was …
The Chairman Chairman So the question is, Has anything changed?
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin No. My question is, Have we put in a process and linked it, perhaps into Workforce Development, as well as the knocking on the doors? That is what I want to know. Obviously, you want to make sure that we do find work. In terms of the Administration on page …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin I am asking the question as to whether this is up to date, Mr. Chai rman. I want to make sure— The Chairman: You know, nothing has changed.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin No, no, no. I a m not saying that anything has changed; and I am certainly not attempting to be argumentative with you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to understand that we did not, or there was not a de- funding just for the sake of defunding, that there was …
The Chairman Chairman You were the Minister there, you know. Nothing has changed.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Well, that is exac tly the reason I am asking—
The Chairman Chairman Right. We haven’t changed—
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin —because I know why—
The Chairman Chairman —the Government has not changed anything.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin —I know why the funding was taken away.
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin So I just want to understand that it is now being properly regularised. The Professional Services. The Minister indicated that the vacancies were due to —
The Chairman Chairman Is this 267?
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin On page [B] -267 under Professional Services, under Subjective Anal ysis with respect to Professional Services which was initially budgeted at 702 and is now down to 468. I understand what the Minister said. The question is that I do not think that I heard, when I was writing my …
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Yes. If the Minister can explain . . . as I said, I did try to follow him very carefully. But we have here salaries, an increase of 269. The increase in salaries of 269 on the first line of the Subjective Analysis is offset by the decrease in Professional …
The Chairman Chairman Certainly.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Yes, on the Fina ncial Assistance —
The Chairman Chairman Where are you?
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin This is on . . . I am going back to page B -263, with the Grants Administr ation, 65050. I just have a question. And that is a question that came to me, and I did not remember the answer, and I think it is useful to ask. When …
The Chairman Chairman Which —
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Page [B] -256. And this is 5204, Community Education, and these are the . . . actuall y all three programmes there have zero. Are these the ones that were transferred to the D epartment of Education? That was just a question that . . . I did not write …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speak ers? There appear to be none, Minister . . . I’m so rry. One second. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Zane De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to speak, Mr. Chairman, if I …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Just to help her out . . . and she will know this. When the departments were looking at their budgets for the year, and as the Junior Minister said, the 2.5 per cent was included across the board. So, what happened was, …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair r ecognises the Member Scott Si mmons from [constituency 32].
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to highlight really quickly as it relates to Head 55 under Financial Assistance, one of the most signi ficant parts of it . . . and I want to take this opportunity to commend the Minister on an excellent brief as it relates …
The Chairman Chairman One point eight.
Mr. Scott Simmons I am sorry, 1.8. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What I do believe is important is that as you will find on B -265, under the measurement indicators, it says, To im prove the grant administration, to [approve] financial awards of 100 per cent of our new Financial Assistance clients within …
The Chairman Chairman Member, you are getting a lot of le verage here.
Mr. Scott Simmons I appreciate that.
The Chairman Chairman You have to give specific —
Mr. Scott Simmons I am sticking with Financial A ssistance.
The Chairman Chairman Well, you have to be specific of this budget.
Mr. Scott Simmons Right. So, what I feel is that if we continue on that vein then we certainly will do very well. I am glad to see it in this budget. I hope that we do continue in this vein. And I do believe that we Bermuda House of Assembly are doing …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speak ers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Sylvan Richards, from [constituency] 7. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. Mr. Chairman, I am not g oing to speak long because I am looking forward to the Minister answering the questions …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Any furt her speakers? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 2, Kim Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I could not let this debate go by without weighing in on a subject that is near and dear to my heart. Social i ssues are very important. I am going to go right to B -250, Child and Family Services, 33010, Happy Valley …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan There are many success stories over many, many years that can be attributed to facilities as such. We need to do all we can in ways that go beyond the dollars that have been put in that direction, celebrating those persons who are the success story. I remember listening to …
The Chairman Chairman Member, let me s ay this. I have been very lenient with all of you. But we are in . . . the general debate is over.
The Chairman Chairman We have to be in the specifics of the budget.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I am very specific.
The Chairman Chairman I am not saying your comments are not important; but they would have been more i mportant in the general debate, and more appropriate there. So, let’s try to get back to the Minister to answer some of the questions. You know, I —
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Chai rman— 1520 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: —appreciate what you are saying—
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —I take your advice.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And, Mr. Chairman, I will say this, as I talk about 33070 with regard to the Brangman Home. I am encouraged that the Minister and his team have seen fit to provide an increase in what was allocated in the budget for that particular line item. It has gone from …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pat [Gordon] -Pamplin. Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do have one other question. And that is on page B -250, under Child and Family Services. The Minister in his brief indicated that bus iness unit …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member, Zane De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I thought it was . . . even though I did rise to just give an explanation to the Honourable Member Gordon- Pamplin, and I think …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A lot of families are stru ggling. And I take this opportunity to say, thank goodness the Progressive Labour Party had the foresight to give our young ladies the assistance they need with some of their children with regard to day care, and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You’re rambling. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I am rambling. Yes I am. Yes I am — [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But I think it is a good— [Inaudible interjecti ons]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Let the Minister answer the questions. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, you certainly . . . now, Members . . . I hear Members Gibbons and Pat Gordon-Pamplin saying they are waiting for answers to questions.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And that is why . . . well, you, you did the . . . I must say the Shadow Minister certainly did not take up much time. It was you all. All I am saying to you is that I am sure …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am giving credit where credit is due. [Inaudible interjections ] [Gavel] 1522 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. D e Silva: But see, the Honourable Members say they want questions answered. I am …
The Chairman Chairman Member — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —maybe they can hopefu lly participate in that, maybe do some public/private partnership deals.
The Chairman Chairman Member, you are doing a general debate now. Hon. Z ane J. S. De Silva: Yes, all right.
The Chairman Chairman You have to— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, now, Mr. Chairman . . .
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: With regard to Community . . . my Minister can put me down any time he wants. But, I am sure that he does not mind me giving the information for not only the Members opposite but for the general public. One of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member, Kim Swan, from constituency 2.
Mr. Hubert (Ki m) E. Swan Mr. Chairman, ever so briefly, I will pick up where the Member who just sat down left off, on B -256, as it relates to 62130, Senior Citizen Projects. I just want to take this opportunity to encourage the Minister, whilst on this particular line item. There is some $78,000 …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Zane De Silva, from constituency 29. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Chairman, I wanted to mention three quick things with regard to B -255, Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs. I just wanted to …
The Chairman Chairman Member, you have got to refer me to a head. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, I am referring to Head 52—
The Chairman Chairman [Head] 52? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: [Head] 52, and, in partic ular, page [B] -255 the Mission Statement and the D epartment Objectives. Head 52. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The Chairman Chairman What line? What particular — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What I wanted to do was look at the department’s objectives. And one thing that we did not talk about today that I think we should certainly [chase] . . . I would certainly implore you, Mi nister, to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You know, you’re just wasting time. Just sit down. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No. Mr. Chairman, you see? That is the problem. You see when are talking about —
The Chairman Chairman Member, hang on a minute. Let me say that the rules are quite clear. Any Member can speak after the Minister. Any Member can speak. The rules are being followed by the Chair. Carry on. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I did refer to …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you have a minute and a half. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, how much time do I have left?
The Chairman Chairman A minute and a half. [Inaudible interjections ]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Answer my question now. 1524 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael A. Weeks: What was your question? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Can I move the heads?
The Chairman Chairman You sure can. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: All right. Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 23, 52, 55, and 88 be approved. Any objection to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Social Development and Sports : Head 23, Child and Family Services; Head 52, Community and Cultural Affairs; Head 55, Financial Services; and …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Commi ttee rise and report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? There appear to be none. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress, and s ought leave to …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. Are there any objections to the Committee reporting back to the House? No objections? Then it is reported and we rise and report progress. We now move on to the next Order of the Day. I believe the next order is Order No. 3, in the name …
The Speaker The Speaker For clarification, are you doing number 2? Your whip indicated that we were doing 3, 4 and 5.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We are doing 2.
The Speaker The Speaker We were not informed of 2.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member On the Order Paper, Mr. Speaker. The S peaker: I am going to ask you, Members, to please make sure that the House is properly informed, particularly that the Speaker is properly informed of what is being done. We were clearly indicated 3, 4, and 5. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker So, ha ve the opposite Members been informed that [Order] No. 2 is going to be done this evening?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, has the opposite Member been informed?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I had hoped Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I normally would not proceed if both sides have not had some indication of what we are going to do. So, Minister, I am really being lenient if you can give some clarification as to whether the ot her side has been informed and is prepared to do [O rder] …
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. You are talking to the Speaker. The Speaker is asking for courtesy out of respect for both sides of the House. It is not a matter of the fact that it has been on the Order Paper all this time, it …
The Speaker The Speaker —the Speaker had not been informed.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Mr. Acting Whip.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker, I have correspondence that indicates . . . and I am looking for it now to be able to indicate that [Order] No. 2 has been sent to yourself and also, Mr. Speaker, to the Opposition Whip. I have it here.
The Speaker The Speaker You may have a correspondence from me a little while ago, that I sent asking that, but som eone approached me and I said no, we have only been informed of 3, 4, 5. And I was looking for clarity when I sent it out. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Now, the questi on is going to be this: Does the Opposition have any objection to us moving on to [Order] No. 2 at this point? Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Speaker, I am ready to go.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Minister, the other side has indicated that they are prepar ed to go even though they had not been informed. We will proceed. Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank my colleague on the other side. And I do apol ogise for my remarks …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member Moniz. You have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Speaker, sorry, maybe I sort of blinked there and missed it, but there was not much of an explanation as to exactly what is involved …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister, contin ue on. Hon. Walton Brown: I will be happy to, Mr. Speaker. This piece of property . . . this property exchange has to do with property that is partly owned by HSBC, partly owned by the Corporation. Apparently, the sidewalk, which is meant to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Go ahead. 1526 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Yes, I am obliged for that, Mr. Speaker. We have no objections to it.
The Speaker The Speaker Good. Minister . . . hold off, Minister. I recognise the Honourable Member Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor.
Mrs. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to clarify with the Minister’s presentation . . . it is Albuoy’s Point. And what is the actual acreage or linear footage or something? Just so that we have some idea. I think it is important from the perspective of the House we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any further Member wish to speak? Minister? Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am obliged for your indulgence. I now move that in accordance with subsection (1A) and (1B) of section 20 of the Municipalities Act 1923 this House approves the Exchange Agreement (the Agreement) …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? No objections? It is moved. [Motion carried: The House approved the Exchange Agreement between the Corporation of Hamilton and HSBC Bank Bermuda Ltd. as set out in the Draft Agreement.]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, that was [Order] No. 2, we are going to move on to [Order] No. 3, Consideration of the Marine Board (Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018, in the name of the Minister of Transport and Regulatory Affairs. Minister. REGULATIONS MARINE BOARD (SEABORNE SERVICES) AMENDMENT R EGULATIONS 2018, IN THE NAME …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to introduce the Marine Board ( Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018. The passage of these regulations will result in an increase of 5 per cent for rates either hourly or per movement for the use of vessels, such …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recogn ise the Honourable Deputy Opposition Leader. Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have no objection to the i ncreases. I would just like to ask him a question for my own personal edification. Under Part II Tugs, Berthing or Unberthing, $1,389 per movement. What is a “movement”?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister, would you like to respond? [Laughter] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I will inform the Honourable Member what exactly it is by definition later. [Laughter] Hon. Walter H. Roban: I don’t profess to be that knowledgeable of every little variance around the m arine industry, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Member? Bermuda House of Assembly Ms. Leah K. Scott: We have no o bjection, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I now move that the Draft Regulations be approved and that the appropriate message be sent from this House to His Excellency the Governor. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that, Members? No objections? So moved. [Motion carried: Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board (Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2018 were approved.]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, I believe the next Order is in your name as well. 1Hon. Walter H. Roban : Yes, Mr. Speaker. I move that c onsideration be given to the Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board (Pilotage Dues) Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be made by the Mini ster responsible for …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to introduce the Marine and Ports Authority ( Port Dues ) Amendment Regulations 2018. The passage of these regulations will translate to an increase of 5 per cent for dues payable effective the 1 st of April 2018. This …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak to this? I recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader. Ho nourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. These regulations ar en’t as “moving” as the previous one, but . . . we have no objection to them. Thank you. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1 [The next two paragraphs are the transcript of the Honourable Minister's introduction, which he read in error . His co rrection is reported on the following page.] I now move that the Draft Regulations be approved and that the appropriate …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that, Members? No objections? So moved. Minister, I believe the next Order, O rder No. 5, is in your name as well. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Just a minute, Mr. Speaker. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The last one I think I might have . . . I think I . . . An. Hon. Member: You switched them around. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I did by accident, Mr. Speaker, I did the Pilotage Dues instead of …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, do your third— Hon. Walter H. Roban : —if you will indulge me, it’s all three anyway.
The Speaker The Speaker Do the third one now. Hon. Walter H. Roban : Yes, I am sure the earth will not be moved due to the confusion . . . [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker No. You can do the third one. Hon. Walter H. Roban : So I will just . . . I hear some chirping on the other side like there has been some great disruption. But I am sure the world will still continue. The S peaker: You’ve got the leaning …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Correct it for Hansard. MARINE AND PORTS AUTHORITY (PORT DUES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2018 Hon. Walter H. Roban : Thank you very much, Mr. Spea ker. I move that c onsideration be given to the Draft Regulations entitled the Marine and Ports Authority (Port Dues) Amendment Regulations 2018, proposed to be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak to that? I recognise the Honourable Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We, on this side, have no objection to the i ncrease.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: With that, Mr. Speaker, I move that the Draft Regulations be approved and that the appropriate message be sent from this House to His Excellency the Governor. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any objections to that? No objections? So moved. [Motion carried: Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board ( Port Dues ) Amendment Regulations 2018 were approved.]
The Speaker The Speaker I believe all other matters are carried over. Are we correct now?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No third readings on those. So now, Deputy . . . would you like to stand up, take us to the motion to adjourn? ADJOURNMENT Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I move that we do now adjourn until the next sitting on Friday, the 9th of …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that? I recognise the Honourable Member Cole S imons. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speak er. Mr. Speaker, as you know, I do not speak on the motion to adjourn too often.
The Speaker The Speaker I was surprised when I saw you rise, to tell you the truth.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Exactly. I was surprised too,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Go ahead, you have the floor. You have your 20 minutes. DELLWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL FACULTY SUSPENSIONS
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I am compelled to rise today because of what is happening in Education, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I went to a funeral, and the topic of discussion by ever yone was, What is happening at Dellwood School? What is happening with the hea dmistress and three teachers going on administrative leave? …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? Member, you will yield for a point of order from the Minister. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : Mr. Speaker, I woul d say that the Member is misleading the House. This is a personnel matter that is under investigation, and it is …
The Speaker The Speaker And your point of order was that you— Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : That he is misleading the House, because he stood up and said that he expected the Minister to make a statement.
The Speaker The Speaker No, that is his opinion. It is not necessarily misleading; it is his opinion, so let him express his opinion.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simon s Mr. Speaker, what makes it very, very different, and very important, is that this is probably one of the first times that I can remember a principal being placed on administrative leave. It is very, very unusual from an academic point of view, and from a leadership point of view. …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Yes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Never mind.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, Member. [Laughter]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, the Minister cannot be hiding on this matter. The people of this country deserve an answer. Mr. Speaker, this investigation that is in place for these four professionals can last from six to eight months. What is happening at the school? Will educ ation delivery be compromised? What …
The Speaker The Speaker Now, just remember that it is your opi nion that his behaviour is irresponsible. It is your opi nion.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Yes, it is my opinion.
The Speaker The Speaker It is your opinion; it is not necessarily fact, but it is your opinion.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, I understand that the Minister, having stood in his position . . . I know it is a very difficult position. And I said to him recently that I was very empathetic to his plight. But the reality is, Mr. Speaker, that we have to be transparent as …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, the other issue that caused me grave concern, and I know it is going to cause uproar, and this is the issue of the Stores Department down at the Ministry, the mould situation. I know when I was in the seat the then Shadow Minister was howling at …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I sat in that seat for over three months, we talked about the Stores Department, and we talked about reviewing the management. And at no point in time did the issue of mould come up during my tenure. So I am sympathetic to the Minister that this issue has been …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Minister of Educ ation. You have the floor. 1530 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rab ain: Mr. Speaker, I rise to my feet to clarify something …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : Under this Government. This is a Minister and a Government that takes action, Mr. Speaker, not just plays lip servic e and tries to get headlines for being down there . . . for admitting that he was there in the seat for …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Point of clarification, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You will — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain : I will not yield for a point of clarification. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons The reason for that —
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah, ah . . . wait, wait, wait, wait—
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons The reas on for that, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Wait, wait, wait, wait! [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker Take your seat. Take your seat. The Minister . . . you rose asking for a point of clarification, the Minister indicated he is not going to take a clarification. Once he indicated he would not, he will continue on. It’s his courtesy. Continue on, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister . Does any other Member wish to speak? The Honourab le Member Moniz, you have the floor. DELLWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL FACULTY SUSPENSIONS Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to go back to the area of the suspensions at Dellwood. It is an …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member? I recognise the Premier. You have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is a saying that my colleagues in Cabinet know. There is a saying that my …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The House now stands adjourned until 10:00 am on Friday. [At 8:56 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 9 March 2018 .] 1532 7 March 2018 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentional ly left blank.]
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