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May 14, 2025

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The sitting began with Minister Weeks making an emotional plea to the community about violent crime, urging people to "stand up, speak up, and save lives" by reporting information to police. MPs asked questions about whether crime has actually increased and what resources are being used to combat violence. The House then moved into Committee of Supply to debate the Public Works budget, with Minister Adams outlining a $84.1 million operational budget and $57.3 million capital budget for infrastructure, roads, buildings, and environmental programs.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date May 14, 2025
Session 2024/2025
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Speakers 18
Speeches 412

Key Topics

Minister of National Security's "Stand Up, Speak Up, Save Lives" statement calling for community action against violent crimeQuestions about crime statistics, sentencing guidelines, and gang violence resourcesBudget debate for Ministry of Public Works and Environment (Heads 36, 68, 79, 81, 82)Congratulatory speeches recognizing local achievements in sports, education, and community service

Bills & Motions

Motion to resume Committee of Supply for budget consideration - passed
Budget debate for Ministry of Public Works and Environment began (covering infrastructure, roads, buildings, parks, and environmental services)

Notable Moments

Minister Weeks delivered a passionate statement calling violent crime "wounds on our national soul" and urging citizens to break the "code of silence"
Questions arose about whether violent crime has actually increased, with the Minister cautioning against making claims without supporting facts
The Public Works budget represents a 6% increase, showing government commitment to infrastructure investment

Debate Transcript

412 speeches from 18 speakers
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Deputy Speaker Disclaimer deputy speaker The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for informational purposes only. The printed version remains the official record. Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY :0 3 AM Sitting Number 7 of the 20 25/2026 Session [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Good m orning members. Members, we will do the prayer s first. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Mr. Somner, Clerk ] [Gavel]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You can be seated. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The minutes of 9 May [2025] and the minutes of 12 May [2025] are deferred. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are apologies coming from the [Honourable] Premier, the actual Speaker himself [the Honourable Dennis P. Lister, Jr.] , [Minister], [Honourable] Jason Hayward, Member Leroy Bean, [Honourable] Deputy Premier De Silva and I also understand that Member Robin Tucker is unable to join us because she has suffered an accident …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. PETITIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I call on the Honourable Minister Weeks. STAND UP , SPEAK UP, SAVE LIVES Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker, colleagues and those in the listening audience. Madam Deputy Speaker, I want to thank those in this House and the listening audience for lending me their ear …
Madam Deputy Speaker deputy speaker • We are not powerless. • We are not helpless. • We are not alone. • We can save lives —not through magic, not through slogans, but through action. Madam Deputy Speaker , the solution is found in community effort. Now let me be clear, I have said this repeatedly …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I have one Member’s name down and that is Member King. Member King, did you want to put questions to the Minister? I recognise you.
Mr. Robert King Yes, good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. I have a couple of questions for the Minister of National Security. Thank you. QUESTION 1: STAND UP, SPEAK UP, SAVE LIVES
Mr. Robert King Understanding that the prevalence of violent crime has increased and the seriousness 456 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly and the number of incidents , are consultations currently occurring between the A ttorney General 's Chambers and the Ministry of National Security about amending sentencing guidelines …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Madam Deputy Speaker, all conversations are being held that are relevant to where we find ourselves right now in Bermuda. But I want to be clear while I am on my feet that longer sentences are not going to fix the problem. Corporal punishment is …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, M inister. Do you have a supplemental question or . . .
Mr. Robert King I do, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Robert King For clarification , I was not necessarily speaking about stronger sentences . What I was speaking about was the appropriate sentences in rela-tion to the seriousness of the offence as opposed to a blanket . . . we need to be much . . . more onerous to sentences, et …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, your supplemental. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Robert King Sure. Understanding that we have persons , as the M inister has rightly identified, who are silent when they know things about criminals who may be residing with them, or they are creating safe harbour for them , is there going to be some action on the application of the …
Mr. Robert King That is correct.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am certain that there are laws already on the book s for harbouring criminals and fugitives from justice. So, I am certain that if it is ever proven that a citizen is harbouring someone that is wanted and …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have a second supplemental? Or is it a new question?
Mr. Robert King New question .
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Go ahead, Member. QUESTION 2: STAND UP, SPEAK UP, SAVE LIVES
Mr. Robert King Understanding that the prevalence of serious crime has increased ( murders due to gun violence and stabbings ), is there consideration to a gun and bladed weapon amnesty for those for weap-ons that cause death? Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I want to start off by saying that we have to be careful with the statements we make because what has been happening in these last couple of days has been violent crimes, but to draw the conclusion that violen …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister . Supplemental . QUESTION 3: STAND UP, SPEAK UP, SAVE LIVES
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Understanding that violent crimes have increased and deaths , as reported in government statistics and police statistics , is there a strategic plan with specific performance measures and timelines that will address this problem? Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That is your supplemental?
Mr. Robert King That is my final question. Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Oh, third question. Okay. Thank you. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: We brought an anti -violence strategy to the House, I think at the end of last year, November or December , that addresses where we are as a country and our plan on going forward.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister . Any supplemental?
Mr. Robert King A supplemental, yes.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member, I recognise— SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Robert King Madam Deputy Speaker, in terms of the [National] Vio lence Reduction Strategy, if memory serves me correctly, there were no specific timelines or performance measures as relates to that strategy. Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay that is just . . . okay, thank you. Are there any other Members who wish — sorry. Sorry. I recognise Member Campbell because he did indicate that he wished to ask questions. QUESTION 1: STAND UP, SPEAK UP, SAVE LIVES
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister . . . it is difficult, and I understand that . It is extremely difficult to measure the success of the Gang Violence Reduction Team. But I would like to ask Minister if he believes that the team …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Is there a supplemental?
Mr. Vance Campbell No supplemental. Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Any new questions? None. That brings question period to a close. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I recognise the Member from constituency 15. Member , you have the floor. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker . I would l ike to offer a few congrats this morning. First of all, to the Bermuda School Sports Federation ( BSSF) and that is the sporting body …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Right on the bell. Is there any other Member who wishes to speak? I recognise the G overnment Whip. Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good morning, [Madam Deputy] Sp eaker. Thank you for recognising me. Good morning to my colleagues . Madam Deputy Speaker, I would like congratulations to be sent to a very good family friend of ours and I would imagine you might want to be included once I give the name. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Are there any other Members who wish to . . . I recognise the Member from constituency 13. Member , you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker I would like to join in with the Member who just [stood] for the congratulations for …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, M ember. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 36. Member , you have the floor.
Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I would just like to take the opportunity. I would like to continue with the congratulations that I began at our last sitting for constituency 36 for the Musical Extravaganza where they honoured one of our most outstanding musicians in Bermuda, who is a member …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, M ember. Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any other persons who wish to speak? I recognise the Minister from constituency 4. Minister , you have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I want to take the opportunity to give congratulatory remarks . If …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, M inister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak on congrats and/or obits ? There being none, we shall move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That brings us to the O rders of the Day, and we will be resuming into the Committee of Supply for further consideration. I call on the Minister of Cabinet Office to move us. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Madam Deputy Speaker, I move that the House now resume in …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It has been moved that we resume into Committee of Supply. Are there any objections? There are none. So, moved. I call on Member Lawrence Scott to assume the Chair. House in Committee at 10:40 am [Mr. W. Lawrence Scott, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR …
The Chairman Chairman Good morning, Members. With it having been moved. Honourable Member s, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2025/26. 460 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly We are now doing Public Works and …
The Chairman Chairman We have Heads 36, 53, [sic] 68, 81 and 82. [Crosstalk]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I don’t see [Head] 53. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman We are doing P ublic Works and Environment for H eads 36, 68, 79, 81 and 82 and this is a four-and-a-half-hour debate. Minister Adams, you have the floor. Hon. Jache Adams: Thank you. Thank you and good morning, Mr. Chair man. Mr. Chair man, I move the following H …
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed. MINISTRY OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENVIRONMENT Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Chairman, today I rise to address this Honourable House on a matter that is fundamental to the very functioning, safety, and future of our country —the work and budget of the Ministry of Public Works and Environment for …
The Chairman Chairman And for the listening audience, we are on Head 36 of the Ministry of Public Works and Environment with the Minister Jache Adams presenting. He is currently talking about telecommunications which is under line item 3612. Hon. Jache Adams: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And now that I have finished that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are you opening up for questions now? Or are you going to go straight into Head 68, which is Parks? Hon. Jache Adams: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman All right. HEAD 68 —DEPARTMENT OF PARKS Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Chairman, the Department of Parks plays a vital role in the stewardship of Bermuda’s natural and recreational landscapes. It is entrusted with the administration and management of protected areas as outlined in both the Bermuda National Parks Act 1986 …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. And for the listening public we are on the Ministry of Public Works and Environment. It is a four -and-a-half-hour debate, five Heads —36, 68, 79, 81 and 82. We have just completed the second head which is Head 68 and I believe that the Minister is …
The Chairman Chairman Oh, sorry. Hon. Jache Adams: Almost finished.
The Chairman Chairman I was too slow on the last one, too fast on this one. Hon. Jache Adams: Yes, yes, yes. [Laughter] Hon. Jache Adams: We’ll get it right. We’ll get it right. Subjective Analysis of Current Account Estimates Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Chairman, I now draw Honourable Members’ attention to page …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. For the listening public, we have just concluded the second of five heads. We just finished Head 68 and the Minister is now going to go into Head 79 under the Environment and Natural Resources. Minister. HEAD 79 —DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES Hon. Jache Adams: …
The Chairman Chairman Minister — Hon. Jache Adams: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman I am actually very riveted in what you are talking about because in another life I wanted to be a marine biologist. However, it has been brought to my attention that we are approaching the 12:30 mark, so I will leave it up to you to find a place to …
The Chairman Chairman The motion has been moved that we go to lunch and come back at 2:00 pm. Any objections? No objections. We will break for lunch. [ Gavel] Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2:06 pm [Mr . Scott Simmons, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES …
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members . We are now in the resumption of the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2025/26. I call on the Minister in charge to continue, and I do believe we are at Head 79. Am I correct, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. Go right ahead. HEAD 79 —DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES [DENR] Hon. Jache Adams: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, for the listening audience I am on the output measures for business unit 89020 Ma-rine Conservation noted in the Budget Book on page B-219.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Mar ine Conservation Hon. Jache Adams: In addition to its many other duties in 2024/25 the Marine Conservation Section re-viewed 10 planning applications pertaining to the ma-rine environment, presenting all of them to the Marine Resources Board within four weeks of receiving the application. This represents 100 …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Agronomy Hon. Jache Adams: Agronomy is noted in the Budget Book on page B -221. The Agriculture Service Centre is one of the main means by which the Government can provide direct assistance to our local farmers. The centre provides cold storage for local crops, ice for farmers and …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Jache Adams: Advancements were made for an online ‘GovPilot’ dog licence renewal system which has undergone some beta- tests and the issues identified are currently being addressed. The final rollout is anticipated very soon following final testing to ensure accuracy of information available to the public, privacy of …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Jache Adams: This section also manages the spill response equipment in addition to maintaining links with various organisations that can offer overseas assistance in the event of a large spill. The UK Maritime Coast Guard Agency recognises this effort and has committed over $343,251 over the past four …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Jache Adams: The Pollution Control Section has continued to manage complaints by the public related to air quality issues from BELCO’s large particle soot emissions, fumes from local tank vents and down drafting of exhaust fumes in addition to concern of these impacts to residential water tanks. Through …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Addressing Lost Seagrass Beds Hon. Jache Adams: Following the significant loss of seagrass habitat in Bermuda over the past decade that coincided with a large population growth of green turtles, which subsequently crashed in 2020, measures are being taken to help the seagrass recover. In addition to expanding sites …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. The Minister has certainly found his stride. The Minister just concluded Head 79, as he mentioned. And we . . . just to remind Members that we are in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates and Revenue and Expenditure for the …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you have about an hour and a half left. It is about that, yes. Carry on. Hon. Jache Adams: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Land Survey Management Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Chairman, I now move to programme 8103, Land Surveys, which is administered under cost centre 91007—
The Chairman Chairman And we remain on page B -222. Am I correct? Hon. Jache Adams: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: For the fiscal year 2025/26, this programme has been allocated a budget of $385,000, which represents a decrease of $61,000 compared to the previous fiscal year. This reduction is primarily due to the completion of specific equipment upgrades and administrative needs. Mr. Chairman, the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. We are just reminded that we are in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2025/26. We are now going into Head 82. [Inaudible interjection]
The Chairman Chairman I’m sorry. Minister, go right ahead. You have about an hour and 15 minutes left. Hon. Jache Adams: Thank you. HEAD 82 —DEPARTMENT OF WORKS AND ENGINEERING Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Chairman, the mission of the Department of Works and Engineering is To ensure the effective and prudent management of …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: Thank you. 1. Administration [programme 8200] provides for the salaried senior management staff of the department. The mandate of the senior man-agement team is the efficient management of the seven sections of the department. Bermuda House of Assembly 2. Engineering [programme 8201] provides …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. 8204, Quarry Transport Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Government Fleet and Operations Section (more commonly known as the Quarry) is comprehensive and operationally significant. Mr. Chairman, a $3,139,000 budget has been allocated to this programme, representing an increase of $453,000 as compared to the original …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: Let me see how much more I have left.
The Chairman Chairman We have about 65 minutes, Minister. (I am going to say) About 60 minutes left to this debate. Hon. Jache Adams: Okay. I will . . . give me a few more minutes and then I will open the floor to question.
The Chairman Chairman No, go right ahead, Minister. 75042, Road Works Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Chairman, the estimate for this cost centre stands at $5,000,000, which matches previous years. While this budget is certainly important for continuing major maintenance work, includ-ing road [re]surfacing, junction improvements, road widening, and the installation of new sidewalks, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. 75264, Quarry Refurbishment Hon. Jache Adams: The 2025/26 estimate for this cost centre, for the Quarry Refurbishment is $5,575,000. This funding will support critical infrastructure upgrades at the Quarry Depot, including the decommissioning of the existing asphalt production plant, and site preparation for the installation of the new asphalt …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, sir. 76495, Vehicles and Equipment Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Chairman, since 2013, and well before my time in this Honourable House, budget constraints have significantly limited the replacement of vehicles and equipment, resulting in a fleet that is now, on average, over 10 years old. This has led to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. The Minister has concluded his brief, and we are still in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2025/26. Would any other Member like to speak on any of these heads? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much. I recognise the Honourable Craig Cannonier, Opposition Whip, Shadow Minister for Public Works and Environment from constituency 12. And Mr. Cannonier, if you would just pause for a second as we have a transfer and change in the Chair to the Honourable Lawrence Scott, JP MP. …
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon. Honourable Member, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, thank you. Thank you very much. I must say I thought I was going to have more time. I have like 25 pages of questions here. And—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You have got about a half an hour. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I couldn’t help it. I was accommodating Government and all of its changes because we have so many Ministers out —not here! [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Well, if you — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. …
The Chairman Chairman You have the floor, Member. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Be careful to chirp. I have some serious concerns concerning this particular Ministry and I will start off by saying . . . and I want to . . . this has nothing …
The Chairman Chairman Member, I do see exactly what you are talking about but . . . and I haven’t done any deeper digging, but it does say right next to the $52,992[,000] in 2024/25 “For details of scheme see sec[tion] C, pages 4 to 16.” Did we look into that as well …
The Chairman Chairman You just have 30 minutes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Okay. I am going to skip over all of that. I am going to move over to Parks because we just don’t have the time. What I would like to ask is if the Minister, if he is obliged . …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Schools. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Schools. Yes, there we go. Schools as well. I don’t know. I have no clue. Do you know? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I don’t know. It would be nice to know. Sometimes these performance measures . . . what the heck is that …
The Chairman Chairman So, you are asking for actual outcome 2023/24? 498 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Well, what I am saying is . . . yes, under actual outcome in 2023/24, it is 26 per cent. But the original forecast for 2024/25 is …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Former Minister. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, former Minister. Sorry. Former Minister. I just sat there; Royal Gazette didn’t even talk about it. I guess they didn’t like that at all. But I know the Mi nister didn’t. But come on now. That machinery is there at the airport. I …
The Chairman Chairman Member, you said they need more than $2,000? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, there is a $2,000 increase.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. You need more than a $2,000 increase? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, man.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Remember, I said 10 per cent is the key for Public Works. You would need a 10 per cent to catch up. I mean, we are behind. I must say I want to thank the PS, this was last year so he wasn’t the Minister …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you have got five minutes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I’ve got five minutes. Under Capital Development. What I would like to do is go down to Public Works Lands, page C -6, where it talks about Horseshoe Bay beach bathrooms. And last year we had a lot of …
The Chairman Chairman Three minutes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. I am going over to . . . I want to go over to page C -28, under Head 81, Public Lands and Buildings. We are renting out a new build-ing for almost $200,000 there, $198,000. The Paradigm Building in Hamilton Parish. It’s …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: But who is in it? Is it — [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Okay. That is the occupant. Okay. Good, good, good, Thank you. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Well done. Well done.
The Chairman Chairman It would be nice if the Chair was included in the conversation. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, my apologies, Mr. Chairman. You told me three minutes, so I panicked. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, so I will go back to my original plea, because I am going to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. We have reached our time allotted. The four - and-a-half-hours has elapsed and that brings us to the end of this debate. Minister, I will encourage you to move your heads. Hon. Jache Adams: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly What I will say to …
The Chairman Chairman No time left. You can only move the heads. Hon. Jache Adams: Okay. I move that Heads 36, 68, 79, 81 and 82 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the heads be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Public Works and Environment Heads 36, 68, 79, 81 and 82 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2025 …
The Chairman Chairman That now brings us to the conclusion of that debate for the Ministry of Public Works and Environment on Heads 36, 68, 79, 81 and 82. Next on the agenda is the Ministry of Tourism and Transport. Something near and dear to my heart. It is going to be piloted …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections to these heads being taken under consideration? With their being no objections, Minister, you have the floor. HEAD 71 —MINISTRY HEADQUARTERS Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (I’m getting myself situated here.) Mr. Chairman, thank you. Mr. Chairman, I will start with Head 71, Headquarters. …
The Chairman Chairman My apologies, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Mr. Chairman, a total of $34,079,000 as found on page B -234 of the Budget Book has been allocated to the new Ministry of Tour-ism and Transport, Culture and Sport Headquarters, which represents the combination of the former Ministry of Transport, Head 48 and …
The Chairman Chairman For the listening public, the Minister is speaking to Head 71, Regulatory Policies, mainly with the focus on hotels. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the 2025/26 capital budget is for the Bermuda Airport Authority, which totals $2,713,000, which is found on page C -7. These funds …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Minister. The Gold Coast of Bermuda will thank you. Hon. Owen Darrell: There you go. Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank the dedicated teams at the Ministry Headquarters and the Authorities under the Ministry for their hard work and solid commitment to the Ministry …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. For the listening pubic, this is a three- and-ahalf-hour debate. It has five heads. The Minister has just concluded Head 71 and is going on to Head 48. HEAD 48 —THE FORMER MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT HEADQUARTERS Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the budget for …
The Chairman Chairman For the listening public, the Minister is piloting through his heads. We have done Head 71 and Head 48, and the Minister is now moving on to Head 30, Marine and Ports. HEAD 30 —MARINE AND PORTS Hon. Owen Darrell: Mr. Chairman, it gives me great pleasure to present the …
The Chairman Chairman And the Chair would just like to recognise the technical staff who are here to support the Minister. They are making sure that, as he said, everything remains on time and on budget. [Committee of Supply, continuing] Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am pleased to report that …
The Chairman Chairman For the listening public, this is a three- and-a-half-hour debate on the Ministry of Tourism and Transport. We are just over half an hour into this debate, as we started at 4:46. We will end at 8:16. We have done four of the five heads, and the Minister is about …
The Chairman Chairman And for the listening public, the Minister is roughly 45 minutes into his three- and-a-half-hour debate. He has done four of the five heads. We are currently on Head 34 going through the performance measures. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In 2024/25, the …
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman No. In my day, you just knew how to ride a pedal bike from the time you were three. So . . . Hon. Owen Darrell: Okay. In light of this new initiative, the success rate of 90 per cent is expected to be met this cycle. During the last …
The Chairman Chairman For the listening audience, the Minister is moving to Head 35, which will be the last of the heads that he has to move. This debate started at 4:46. We will end at 8:16. And we are currently just approximately just outside of an hour in. Minister, you have the …
The Chairman Chairman I remember when the first one came in. Hon. Owen Darrell: Oh, I am sure you took a ride on them, too. [Laughter] Hon. Owen Darrell: The continued phased introduction of the new digital fare media system, replacement support vehicles, updated computer equipment and other necessary upgrades to the facilities, …
The Chairman Chairman And for the listening public, the Minister is presenting Head 35, Public Transportation. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Inventory Management, Cost Centre 45115 Hon. Owen Darrell: Parts for vehicles and equipment were procured, stored, controlled and issued by the Storage section, which falls …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to the Ministry of Tourism and Transport, [Culture and Sport], Heads 71, 34, 48, 35, and 30? The Chair recognises Member Robinson.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you to the Minister for that comprehensive brief and allowing a good bit of time for questions. Mr. Chairman, where would you prefer me to start? At Head 71 and work right through?
The Chairman Chairman This is your response. So . . .
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Perfect. Okay. So, I will kick off at Head 71 then on page B - 234. One of the first things that I wanted to highlight is that it is just a point really. We saw a 4 per cent in-crease overall in the Ministry, and that was kind of …
The Chairman Chairman Remember. This could be because they have combined multiple ministries together.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Right. Yes. I just wanted to clarify that because it is a big jump. And we did see that in Administration as well there is almost a $15 million jump. So, you know, these are big numbers, and it would be remiss of me not to highlight them.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. But I do remember the Minister’s mentioning that in his brief.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes. Yes. I just wanted to make sure that these increases were still mentioned. So just going into Other Expenses, we have an increase here where it is budgeted at $4,000 pretty much throughout 2023/24 into the 2025/26 estimate, it jumps to $21,000. And I just wanted to get a …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Honourable Member. Continue. Go right ahead.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, sir.
The Chairman Chairman As I catch up . . . but go right ahead.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes. So, I just wanted to get clarification that if these two new ferries are being built, is that included in the numbers of 40090 under General Summary on page B -243?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And also, looking at Dockyard Maintenance, this is a bit of a private interest here, being as that is where I grew up.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson So, I want to just get a bit of clarity on the breakdown of what occurs in this Maintenance line item. And also, I understand that the increase is for salary uplifts. However, it is a fairly large increase, and I just would like to know what the folks of …
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson As far as Maritime Safety and Security, I find this to be a very important topic, and I just would like to get a bit of insight into what is making up this particular line item. I heard a brief mention, but I am still not quite sure on exactly …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Go right ahead, Shadow Minister.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes. And Mr. Chairman, just also bear with me. This is my first time in the House. So if I colour outside the line, I hope that you will . . .
The Chairman Chairman Shadow Minister, we are taking all of that into consideration. In my humble opinion, you are doing a very good job. [Laughter]
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Please do continue.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson So just jumping to page B - 244, we have under Expenditure, Other Personnel Costs which seems to be coming in consistently over what is budgeted. So, we have a revised 2024/25 budget of $46,000, which is actually higher than the original estimate in that same year. And then we …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And the fact that, you know, we are getting fewer people on the Island, with private boats and various things. And it is causing a decrease, and we have seen it here in this particular line item. Or it could be economic pressures or showcas-ing a struggling local economy where …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson But as we to go to page B - 245 under the Full -Time Equivalent, we see . . . I want to say a decrease of one person. But the decrease of one person in the Ferry Service is not the thing that catches my attention. It is the …
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. Continue on. Go right ahead, Shadow Minister.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson So, I am going to Head 34 now, which is Transport Control Department.
The Chairman Chairman One moment, please, unless the Minister wishes to reply. No, Minister, you do not wish to reply? Just tell him to continue on. [No audible response]
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. All right. Go ahead.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you. I appreciate that. So, we are on page B -248. And I just wanted to speak about the department objectives because as the Shadow Minister I have received a few concerns about the data collection and data maintenance of the TCD when it comes to how many taxis …
The Chairman Chairman Shadow Minister, you are where?
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Page B -248. And I am at 44090, Road Safety.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Mm- hmm.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson This is a huge line item here for many Bermudians who are either listening, those in the Chamber as well. You know, we have all seen and grieved, some of us, unfortunate losses on the road, critical accidents, things that impact all of us. And not to be critical, but …
The Chairman Chairman No, go right ahead. Members, we are in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2025/26 in the name of the Honourable Minister for Tourism and Transport, Culture and Sport. That will be covering, if I am correct, [Heads] 71, …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that. So, we are on page B -248, and I just wanted to ask here under the Transport Control Department header if there is any update on the ridesharing pro516 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly ject that was slated …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Well, you know, Island: GO!, Minister. You are aware. Y ou haven’t. Oh. The local news network took a ride in Island: GO! So, it was operating. Somebody picked them up. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Shadow Minister, I just want to just let you know just so that we are clear and as it relates to most of the Shadow Ministers who do provide oppor-tunities for us, for the House—
The Chairman Chairman —to go into Committee and debate these different heads. I believe Head 74 is not part of what you asked for us to have a look at and ask the Minister to review. I do believe, and I stand corrected should that be the case, that we are looking at …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson No. I am on Head 34.
The Chairman Chairman As I said, you are on Head 34, correct.
The Chairman Chairman You did not ask us to review that. Head 34 is not one of yours, is it?
The Chairman Chairman Let me make sure. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Okay, great. Carry on. It was not on my list, but go ahead.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Oh, Mr. Chairman, you almost got my Whip in trouble! [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Just carry on. I am just making sure that I was correct and making sure that [the Honoura-ble Member] was on those heads.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Is that correct?
Mr. Dwayne Robinson I appreciate it. Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Carry on. I apologise for the interruption.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson No, that is okay. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. So, carry on.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And I just wanted to see if we could get some regulation or some idea on when these potential apps. So, I guess I will ask a series of questions on this.
The Chairman Chairman Sure.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Number one, is the Ministry or Minister aware of any unregulated dispatch apps currently operating? What was the resolution of the Island: GO! inquiry in which the last I heard, the former Minister asked for a legal inquiry? And also, what is the future planning to make sure that this …
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And so, we want to make sure that in this fiscal year the Ministry and Minister can provide some sort of clarity and support for those who are following the rules. You know, rule- breaking and unregulated dispatch and applications will be snuffed out, cracked down on and dealt with …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson So that is one part. Bermuda House of Assembly And also under the line item Examination 44000, there were a few complaints made to me as the Shadow Minister regarding the timing of vehicle inspections for taxis and minibuses during peak travel hours or peak arrivals or cruise ship arrivals. …
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And what are the details of this particular line item when you say professional services? And how does that apply to the Transport Control Department? And just moving to Repair and Maintenance in this same area on page B -249 in Subjective Analysis of Current Account Estimate. It is budgeted …
The Chairman Chairman Carry on.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Right. So just heading over to Performance Measures. It is a bit of a discrepancy between the percentages that are showing and not. Because in the business unit 44090 on the Road Safety, we do get a percentage of 90 per cent as the target. But not all of the …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. You are on page B -251; am I correct? Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Right. Go right ahead, Shadow Minister.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson So, I am just wondering why is it a . . . not all of the percentages where they apply are being displayed in that particular performance measure. Because it is easy to say Achieved, Expected to achieve, but what number are we working with? And also, on the same …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And I would be remiss [not] to ask when we talk about digitisation, and TCD is a holder of data and many people’s personal data that I ask and inquire of the Minister and the Ministry, How have they considered cybersecurity when it comes to this particular digitisation process? Because …
The Chairman Chairman No, go right ahead.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson All right. I will say I feel for the Minister in this regard because it is a very large ministerial load to carry. So, I am sorting through, and I will be right with you.
The Chairman Chairman Just for the benefit of Members, as I mentioned before, we are in the Committee of Supply. We are looking through heads for the Ministry of Tour-ism and Transport, Culture and Sport, Heads 71, 34, 48, 35, 30. Shadow Minister, go right ahead.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just looking at page B -252, which is under General Summary, looking at line item 45000, Auxiliary Bus Services. And we see here in 2023/24 an actual that was $238,000 budgeted here spent. In the 2024/25 original revised, it zeroed out. In the original it zeroed …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes, you like that word?
The Chairman Chairman I reluctantly accept it, but go ahead, Shadow Minister. [Laughter]
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just moving down to Maintenance. It would be nice to know just under 45090 Repair Services and under 3502 Maintenance, how many buses are actually in need of repair? How many buses are currently being repaired? How many are in need of repair? What is the …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And with Repair and Maintenance, we also see here a $675,000 number for the 2024/25 original. And that revised amount in that same year went up to over $1 million in Repair and Maintenance. So, what exactly occurred here that caused that amount to jump up like that in the …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Well, you know. Yes. You enjoy Twitter too, Minister. Why, yes.
The Chairman Chairman Everything to the Chair. Do not leave me out of it. Do not leave me out of it. 520 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman I wish to be a part of this. Speak to me. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes. No problem, Mr. Chairman. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman The Minister I am sure is going to sort this in a moment. Go right ahead. Hon. Owen Darrell: Yes. Of course, yes.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson You know, I am sure. So, I am just wondering with that issue that came up, what are the troubleshooting measures for some of our more senior, seasoned members who may have is-sues with using the digital media? And how will that be dealt with on the fly, especially if …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Is there a breakdown of infrastructure when it comes to the electric buses’ infrastructure to charge and different things? Because I know that this has been an ongoing issue that Bermuda’s infrastructure has not really matched yet the re-quired output for this particular fleet. Just my inquiry. I stand to …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And this number here, Average number of buses out of service due to parts. I just would like a little bit of a dive into what exactly —are these parts that are not available or sourced easily onIsland? And also, how is it that it is 5 per cent —but …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Address identified occupational, safety and health issues under business unit 45120. This measure is discontinued in 2025/26. So, address and identify occupational, safety and health issues I think is a performance measure we want to keep as well. So, I just wanted to know why that was discontinued and if …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson I think I will pause there. And if you would give me leave for the answers to some of these questions or to—
The Chairman Chairman No. I think let us yield to other Members to see if any other Member wishes to speak on these particular heads. That would be Heads 71, 34, 48, 35 and 30. Let us see if any other Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Just ever so briefly as it relates to the head pertaining to ferries.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. And recognising that there is about an hour and 15 minutes left. So go right ahead.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan That is quite some time.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, it is. Go right ahead.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I thank the Minister for being so generous with his time to allow other Members to contribute to the debate. I communicated this to the Minister that as it comes to public transportation that with the difficulties that we have on the roads —just a little preamble to my question—that …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Right.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan But we still have many people succumbing to, and condolences to the family of persons just as recently as this week who lost their life on the road. We have got to do more to get people off of the road. And I believe the water, particularly with commuters in …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Right. Okay.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan So that is my contribution at this time. Should there be any other time I would like to do. But I appreciate the Minister for allowing me 522 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly to make a contribution in the time that he afforded that allows …
The Chairman Chairman Not a problem at all. We would like to thank you very much, Mr. Swan. I recognise the Shadow Minister for Finance. Mr. DeCouto, you have the floor. [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was not sure I caught the page number and the line number for those prior remarks — [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman I gave him a slight bit of . . . he said he was going to speak ever so briefly. And I was about to break in when he finished his remarks, and I allowed him to continue. So, I recognise that he did not mention . . . On …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto I was admonished —
The Chairman Chairman —sticking with the numbers that we are—
Dr. Douglas DeCouto I was particularly admonished —
The Chairman Chairman I don’t want to take too much of your time.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto —to be careful of that, and so I turn to page B -235.
The Chairman Chairman Your point is taken.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Page B -235, Head 71, Revenue 8090, Vacation Rental Fees.
The Chairman Chairman Sure.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto This was budgeted last year for $400,000, came in at $271,000 and it was budgeted again for $400,000. And I am trying to understand what will change this year that they will actually achieve that revenue. And if I recall, I believe there was some [ reluctance] by those who …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Thank you. Those are my three questions, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Honourable Member. Does any other Member wish to speak to these particular heads? I recognise the Shadow Minister. Honourable Member Fahy, you have the floor.
Mr. Michael Fahy Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have a number of questions across a number of different heads. I will start first with Head 30 and in particular will look at the Capital Expenditure on page C -14. It is noted in line item 76540, which is Ferries …
Mr. Michael Fahy I thought you would comment. I thought the Member would comment, Mr. Chairman. In relation to the two new ferries, which I understand are going to replace two older ferries, the Bermuda House of Assembly previous Minister (to the current Honourable Minister) had made mention I think in 2024 that …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Michael Fahy When you compare, Mr. Chairman, the takings in respect of the various ministries or the various departments, what is interesting when we look at public transportation, and if you look at Head 35, because I just want to bring a comparison to it (you will see on page B -253), …
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mr. Michael Fahy I really do, and I have been absolute about that. So, any encouragement that we can give to get people to use the ferries will increase revenue, which is something that, again, another Shadow Minister spoke about in a previous debate, is finding rev-enue sources. It seems to me that …
The Chairman Chairman Page B -252.
Mr. Michael Fahy Mr. Chairman, we do see that there are issues obviously with bus repair and maintenance, and the figures have increased. I am not following why that is the case if we are having an improved bus fleet. If we are moving toward electric buses, which are more efficient, are newer, …
The Chairman Chairman It is fine.
Mr. Michael Fahy And I put it under HQ. Under New Ferries, can the Minister shed light on whether or not there will be vendor opportuni-ties on board the ferries for Bermuda businesses? And for ferry riders, you will often see vendors at the various ferry stops selling different sundries and things. Whether …
The Chairman Chairman I am giving you the same latitude that I gave the Honourable Member from St. George’s.
Mr. Michael Fahy Thank you. Thank you very much. I do appreciate it, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman The time is running out. Carry on. Go ahead.
Mr. Michael Fahy Yes. No line on those ferries, from St. George’s to Dockyard. And it seems to me there must be opportunities again for some arrangements to be made.
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mr. Michael Fahy Because a lot of the times the ferries that are servicing Dockyard to Hamilton are primarily, during the day, tourists. That is not servicing locals. So, are we getting value for money in respect of that given the low ferry receipts (which I identified that line item already), those ferry …
The Chairman Chairman You join Mr. DeCouto in having an interest. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Michael Fahy: Correct.
The Chairman Chairman Very well. Does any other Member wish to speak to these heads? I recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader. You have the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just have a couple of quick questions.
The Chairman Chairman Sure.
Mr. Ben Smith On page B -252 under Transportation, Head 35, specifically under 45010 for Bus Operations, just wondering if there has been any consideration for extending the time period of buses running during the night hours? The reason I ask that is because we have a lot of people in Bermuda who …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Deputy Opposition Leader. I will recognise any other Member who wishes to speak on any of these heads. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman I recognise the Honourable Member Mr. Robinson. Mr. Robinson, do you have another?
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes. Just really quickly, I just wanted to get a quick update on the licensing issue for and whether or not there will be any sort of legislation, amendments coming down the line to ensure that they are supported as they have the first Bermudian pilot. And I am sure …
The Chairman Chairman Let us not take too many liberties on that.
The Chairman Chairman I mean, keep it in my direction, but let us not go too far into the Tourism Authority. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Dwayne Robinson They are not sure now, Mr. Chairman. Unfortunate. Unfortunate. It is a lot of chatter. But I believe that we are allowed to ask questions on the brief, and I just wanted to note—
The Chairman Chairman No. I prefer more . . . no, one moment. One moment, Mr. Robinson. I prefer, more, frankly. And I allowed Mr. Swan, and I allowed the Honourable Member Fahy and Honourable Member Swan to have some latitude. However, there will be an opportunity to discuss the BTA, and there …
The Chairman Chairman If you do not mind.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson What I was referring to—
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead. Yes.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson What I was referring to, Mr. Chairman, is we are dealing with the head Ministry of Tourism and Transport, Culture and Sport, Head 71. And underneath that, you know, you can make policy proposals. And that is budgeted in there that in the brief things were mentioned underneath that head …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson You know . . . Yes.
The Chairman Chairman I recognise you have done Head 71. I am satisfied that we have covered it and let us keep it at this level. I would rather you did not.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Okay. No problem, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Robinson, you have done well thus far. So, I would like to keep along that lane. And if you do not mind— [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman The Minister is opposing vociferously. So, I would ask that you would stick with that and then we can go right ahead.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes, Mr. Chairman. And then I can make way for answers.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much. Minister, you have about 55 minutes left. But before you do, is there any other Member wishing to speak on this on any of these heads? No other Members wish to speak. The substantive Minister, you have the floor. [Crosstalk] Hon. Owen Darrell: Mr. Chairman, thank …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: And I just want to thank the Shadow Minister. I want to thank his colleagues, the Honourable Member from constituency 20, the Hon-ourable Member from constituency 8. Anybody else? I just want to say thank you. Because I did not hear them; you know they like …
The Chairman Chairman You did provide sufficient time, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Solid two and a half hours, they used quite a bit of that.
The Chairman Chairman A good time. Hon. Owen Darrell: But with that, I want to thank my team who have been listening. And I hope they were listening a little bit more than the Shadow Minister. But I did not mention once BermudAir in my brief, not once. And I think the Honourable …
The Chairman Chairman I do. Hon. Owen Darrell: Question and answer sometimes is where individuals learn the most. So, I am pleased to provide some of these answers. Honourable Member? Yes? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Owen Darrell: Okay, great. I am just making sure that we are good. So, we will start with Head …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear. B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Owen Darrell: And that is why, Mr. Chairman, we have taken great steps and gone to great lengths to further invest in the money that they take home so they can continue to give quality service and service to the people of …
The Chairman Chairman Speak to the Chair. Hon. Owen Darrell: Oh, I am just waiting. You hear a lot of chirping.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you said that. Hon. Owen Darrell: You know, I had fun with this one, Mr. Chairman. So, I would reiterate that I do not know if that was a little bit of a dig or a little bit of a slight. But that investment — [ Inaudible interjections] Mr …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, just take your seat just for a minute. I accept. Go ahead. The Honourable Member Robinson, you have the floor. Mr . Dwayne Robinson: The Honourable Minister —
The Chairman Chairman You should wait for me to speak first. Mr. Robinson, you have the floor.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it.
The Chairman Chairman Right. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Mr . Dwayne Robinson: The Honourable Minister is presenting improper motive here, right?
The Chairman Chairman Ah. Mr . Dwayne Robinson: I at no time wanted to criticise the raises that the public servants were getting. And I respect their work, and I want to clarify that to the listening audience, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. You have done so. I got it. You have done so. Honourable Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just want to reiterate that that investment is an investment well spent. So, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank you for pointing …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: But to — [ Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
The Chairman Chairman Do not take it, Minister. Do not take it, Minister. Go right ahead. Speak to the — Hon. Owen Darrell: Investment in people, Mr. Chairman, is very, very important.
The Chairman Chairman Resist the temptation, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: No, no, I am good. I am good.
The Chairman Chairman Okay, good. Carry on, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: I just . . . you know me. [I am a] Cleveland County boy. I bat and bat well; and bat long. So, the second one, Mr. Chairman. [ Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: As the Vice President from Cleveland County looks on, I see.
The Chairman Chairman He is taking notes. Hon. Owen Darrell: I see. The second question was on Professional Services, and again, Mr. Chairman, this was on page B-231 around Professional Services. And the question was that there seemed to be a jump in 2024/25 of $50,000 for the overall current estimates. And the …
The Chairman Chairman Right. I understand. Hon. Owen Darrell: But nonetheless, Mr. Chairman, I will . . . I will . . . I will, Mr. Chairman— [ Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Temptation as well. Hon. Owen Darrell: Absolutely. I will endeavour to dig into the Bermuda Tourism Authority and break my silence.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Yes. [ Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman You are doing well, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: But, Mr. Chairman, I could tell you this. I do not think I have seen this many on the other side for a Budget -Committee- of-Supply debate in a while. But I am honoured, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman They were waiting for something — Hon. Owen Darrell: And I will continue on. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman They were waiting for such a time as this. [ Inaudible interjections] Hon. Owen Darrell: I have sat and watched others before. Come on! Stop it. All right.
The Chairman Chairman Speak to the Chair. Thank you. Hon. Owen Darrell: I will continue on, Mr. Chairman—
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Owen Darrell: —with the Bermuda Tourism Authority. And I would just like to reiterate— [ Inaudible interjections] Hon. Owen Darrell: —and I would like to follow on, Mr. Chairman. And I will go and talk about the Bermu-da Tourism Authority. And I would like to reiterate at …
The Chairman Chairman Please go ahead. Hon. Owen Darrell: That the Bermuda Tourism Authority is a marketing, a sales and marketing agency. And that is the investment that I think another party at some other time decided to take it away from Gov-ernment to make it independent. And I am happy that the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: [The Opposition] asked about advertising and promotion being zeroed out in 2025 but is now a budget of $15,000. Okay. So, the marketing I think that they are looking at in Head 71 is not detail of the Bermuda Tourism Authority. It is im-portant to …
The Chairman Chairman There you are. There you are. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Owen Darrell: So, the distinction here is that the line item that [the Honourable Shadow Minister] saw on Advertising and Promotion has nothing to do with the Bermuda Tourism Authority. There was a question here about the vacation rental …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, I am glad that this was raised. And these collaborative efforts are going to benefit all stakeholders. In tourism, they are going to benefit locals because when you want to move, Mr. Chairman, you want to move when you want to move.
The Chairman Chairman Correct. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, thank you for pointing that out. And the data management basically leads these discussions and these agenda items when we are trying to make things better for the user, the local user as well as the visiting user. So, I am very happy to be …
The Chairman Chairman Oh, absolutely! Hon. Owen Darrell: I know some of the friends of individuals of those on the other side have these classic cars. And they take . . . [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No, no, no, no, no.
The Chairman Chairman Friends are taking advantage. Yes, Minister, go ahead. Hon. Owen Darrell: Yes, yes. They are happy to have these classic cars.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Oh, absolutely. Hon. Owen Darrell: And so that is one example that I could give. That is one example that I could give of classic car legislation.
The Chairman Chairman That is correct. Hon. Owen Darrell: How we have looked at it and we have tried to make it better for individuals in the community. 530 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I will tell you that the Transport Control Department has worked with the Office …
The Chairman Chairman Exactly, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you. So, another question, and this is again under . . . well . . . this one again is under . . . Head 34. Sorry. I lost my place there. There was a question on Road Safety. And this came from page …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: And I am sure . . . I am disappointed that if road safety is such, such a big deal and they would like to see more money to it . . . I am really disappointed, Mr. Chairman, that not one from the other side …
The Chairman Chairman Aah. Aah. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Owen Darrell: Pardon? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Owen Darrell: That is the question that I am answering that comes. And I am so glad that the Hon-ourable Member asked that, Mr. Chairman, because I think that comes — [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Continue to the Chair, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you. I tell you, one thing I will give a thorough approach— The Chairman: You know that the line items are necessary. Hon. Owen Darrell: —because as we started, as an educator, if there are students who do not get it, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, again I will get back to it. The Road Safety Council had an opening and a launch. And it is great to get up in this place and speak about what we should be doing more. But as I say, every time I get in …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman One second, Honourable Minister, yes. Thank you. I recognise the learned Member from constituency 22.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman You have the floor. Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman I think the Minister might be inadvertently misleading the House. He may not have been present in the Chamber during the debate when his colleague on those benches, who was chairing the Road Safety Council, was commended by me for do-ing so. That debate occurred only two days ago. Thank …
The Chairman Chairman A friendly reminder, Minister. Minister, continue with your brief. [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We have the Hansard.
The Chairman Chairman Resist the temptation, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: No. I am good. I am glad. I am glad we got that out of the way because in my notes it says that road safety is very important. And, Mr. Chairman, I agree that it is very important.
The Chairman Chairman It is. Hon. Owen Darrell: And I look forward. I look forward to seeing more participation from all sides and all benches as the Honourable Member pointed out. We are going on to page B -248. Is there an update on the Ride Sharing project mentioned last year in March? …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. Owen Darrell: I think the Honourable Shadow Minister said he saw that on the app on Twitter. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Owen Darrell: Oh, oh, sorry. No, sorry. I do. I will retract that. I think I did. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. Owen Darrell: I thought maybe that …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Point of order, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Mr. Robinson, go ahead. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive]
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes, thank you. I just think the Honourable Minister is inadvertently imputing improper motive, right? The Island: GO! App was reported by Bermuda Broadcasting, and that is public record. So, it has not been doing any illegal sources.
The Chairman Chairman Right. Right. Right.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: I would accept that. I would accept that.
The Chairman Chairman Fine Hon. Owen Darrell: But it goes to my point. So, I will retract the statement about their possibly knowing.
The Chairman Chairman Well, we do want to remind the public that if you see something to say something. Hon. Owen Darrell: Yes. But I will say the answer to the question, the original question, is that it becomes very difficult for us to really go after and enforce or check what is …
The Chairman Chairman Correct. Hon. Owen Darrell: There were complaints made regarding the timing of vehicle inspections. I want to take some time to talk about this. It is very important that we go through this in detail. I think the Honourable Shadow Minister misunderstood the line item of which he was referencing. …
The Chairman Chairman It is a matter of public record. Hon. Owen Darrell: Yes. And it is a matter of public record that once upon a time taxis used to be examined in January of the year, early. And you had to register by, I think it was, January 31. It was the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, it is important to know that the times of these examinations have been adjusted because we look, Mr. Chairman—
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: —to serve it the best that we can. And I think that it is important to point that out. Although, the examinations, I think, that the Honourable Shadow Minister was talking about were not that. It is the work of traffic officers who actually do traffic …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, I would go back to a previous question, where he said, Well, there are people using these illegal apps and things like that and the other . Sometimes when you have these traffic officers, enforcement needs to be done sometimes when you least expect it …
The Chairman Chairman Hmmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, we cannot have it both ways, Mr. Chairman. You cannot say, Well, look, let us be hands -off on this enforcement, let us let people do whatever they want because it may not be convenient for us to enforce the laws that come under the …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: Professional services. What is the reason for the increase? And the details of the line item for TCD. The increase of $150,000 which represents overseas vendors, visiting to assist with the commissioning of new examination equipment. We will go to Repair and Maintenance. The budget is …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: Equipment. The Honourable Shadow Minister —
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: —and I am just going to attribute most of these to the Honourable Shadow Minister because I am sure his team would not mind.
The Chairman Chairman He did have help. Hon. Owen Darrell: Yes, he did have some assistance.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: And I am so glad I could give them so much time so I can take their questions. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: And Members, we are in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the estimates of revenue and expenditure for the year …
The Chairman Chairman If I am correct. It is about 25, 26 minutes left. But go right ahead, Minister, I do not want to hold you up. Hon. Owen Darrell: All right. As they say, on February 18, they elected me to speak, and I will do so. [Laughter] Hon. Owen Darrell: As …
The Chairman Chairman You are welcome. Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Absolutely. [Inaudible interjection]
The Chairman Chairman Resist the temptation and go ahead. Hon. Owen Darrell: Everything is good. Me and my colleague next to me, he got something, my mate right here.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: So— [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Take your colleague’s example. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, thank you, thank you. The Equipment. $3,000 in 2024/25, they said, $8,000? Has that gone over? In 2026, they see it goes back to $3,000, what is the overage? Why do they believe (I guess “they” meaning the Government) be-lieve that …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: Revenue increased, but it comes under what Government budget? It is 2025/26. The increase does not match the goals. How does the Minister plan to meet the goal? An additional private car category with a higher licensing fee was introduced. Question on page B -251, Performance …
The Chairman Chairman Correct. Hon. Owen Darrell: Sometimes measures are not numerical. So, there will be other performance indicators that may not be numerical. And we have to point that out. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Owen Darrell: I do not write the Budget Book. Page B -251.
The Chairman Chairman Resist the temptation, Minister. [Laughter] Hon. Owen Darrell: The registration and administration, are these percentages due to potential digitisation at TCD?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: The answer is yes. TCD holds personal data. Have they considered cybersecurity? The answer is yes. All projects are overseen by the Government’s Computer Security team at IDT. And I think that comes under my honourable colleague, the Minister of Cabinet and Digital Innovation, who is …
The Chairman Chairman Aah. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, I want to thank him. I am sure he also has invested in people. As we know, 534 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly good managers invest in people, and that is why the salaries there are probably —
The Chairman Chairman There you are. Hon. Owen Darrell: I am talking to —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Answer the question. Hon. Owen Darrell: Now, hold on. I am going to tell you. I am going to tell you.
The Chairman Chairman The Minister is entitled to some, just some leeway. But he is doing fine. Hon. Owen Darrell: All right. So that is that. I am going to move on now. Mr. Chairman, I am going to move on to the Department of Public Transportation.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: The Wyatt does not have a standard budget for the auxiliary bus service. This line item is used for charters and site- seeing. That has been discontinued for a number of years. Bus opera-tions increased due to salary uplift, decrease in staff, so please explain. There …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: Materials and supplies. How can we keep the number down in 2026? In 2023/24, the aged diesel fleet was largely still in service. This is very expensive to maintain. Additional bus purchases in 2024/25 were paused and the electric bus purchas-es that are coming in 2025/26 …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: Average of buses that are out of service due to parts. The parts ordered for the various series of buses are susceptible to supply chain issues and the parts available. Reduction of inventory levels—what does this refer to? Give me a second. As the diesel buses …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: Lovely. Produce performance and reports. I am sorry. A question on page B -252 talks about cost -effective bus service. Any work on a revised bus schedule? I think this came from the Honourable Member from constituency 20.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: It has been considered. It will take us a considerable level of negotiation and coordination, which will be more manageable with the new scheduling software. Feedback will be sourced by the travelling public before any significant changes are implemented. The current process for amending the bus …
The Chairman Chairman Absolutely. Hon. Owen Darrell: —who reached out and asked about a particular trial run.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: And you know, it is a lot of consultation that has to go into that. Including the bus operators, including safety, including feasibility of the existing schedule and workers’ time. So, we do take those under consideration as you would have seen.
The Chairman Chairman Absolutely. Hon. Owen Darrell: Some we are able to accommodate. Some may take a little longer, especially when that schedule comes online, to actually bring to fruition.
The Chairman Chairman And we appreciate that. It is appreciated, Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you. Thank you. I am sure you would appreciate that. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: Bus Operations —improve ridership passengers by 5 per cent increase does not seem like a lot. I will leave that as opinion- based. I do not think that one warrants an answer. Page B -252, we see that there are issues. Why have they in-creased when …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: Or maybe it was [constituency] 25. I am not sure. But the business unit relates to bus operations in full -time equivalents, which includes bus operators, dispatch inspectors, traffic supervisors and the management of the staff section. So, it might have been a misunderstanding as to …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, just take a seat just for a minute. The Honourable Member, Mr. Fahy. You have the floor.
Mr. Michael Fahy Point of clarification, if I may, and it is brief.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Michael Fahy In no way was it a backhanded compliment. It is a compliment. Because I was being absolutely serious that bus operator safety is of prime importance.
Mr. Michael Fahy And it was something that was of concern to me as Minister, and I know it is of concern to the current Minister. Really, I was just trying to bring it to public’s attention that that is something I think we both would quite happily stand here and know that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Fahy. Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I do retract the “backhanded compliment.”
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. Hon. Owen Darrell: And I do appreciate the Honourable Member for getting up and explaining that. Just to add to that on safety, specifically on the buses. These new buses that were ordered by another Honourable Member some time ago—
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: —do come with cameras and recording devices.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ooh! Hon. Owen Darrell: So maybe that has been a deterrent for the users. And it also makes the operators feel safer. So, thank you for raising that. Maintenance. Are some of the buses being damaged due to the foliage on the roads? The department is continuing with communication with …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: The increase of the working crews that you see out, whether it be solo workers or entire teams, that you see will take chunks of this foli-age out to not only make it safer for the buses but for all road users to go through these …
The Chairman Chairman Looks like about eight minutes, Minister. About eight minutes left in your brief. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you. I think I will get through this in about seven and a half minutes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, I am going to get through that. That was good, those were good questions. I am happy to give that time because this is important stuff. Marine and Ports. So, on page B -243, Ferry Service, does it include two ferries? Yes, the cost does …
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: Our new, more modern vessels will require operational training for the crews prior. A year of training related to the new tug- boat, and introduction of the two new fast ferries later this year will require additional operator training. Training is also seasonal. We can only …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: And I am happy to report, Mr. Chairman that I happen to know a few branch pilots. And I also went down to Seatrade at the beginning of this year. When you go to Seatrade, you have these cruise ship companies and they have these new …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I knew what you meant. [Laughter] Hon. Owen Darrell: You knew what I meant? Thank you, thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Your colleagues are saying there are sufficient stimulators. Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Got them excited there, I see.
The Chairman Chairman I tell you. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Owen Darrell: I tell you.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is what they tell me. Hon. Owen Darrell: I tell you. And only basic training is available on Island.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: So, it is very important that we continue to train up our staff right. And with these boats coming, part of it is sea trials and tests. And unfortunately, you cannot trial and test a new boat when it is not in the jurisdiction. That is …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Owen Darrell: I am going to skip the questions that my colleague asked. I think the Honourable Member from constituency 25 asked about moorings. Illegal boat registration. Has the Ministry required in538 14 May 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly surance for the removal of these …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Minister, you are just about expired. Hon. Owen Darrell: You are waving me off, Mr. Chairman?
The Chairman Chairman I will give you 60 seconds. Hon. Owen Darrell: Okay, thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Absolutely. Hon. Owen Darrell: Well, Mr. Chairman, I would just like to take this opportunity to thank all Members who come under the Ministry, and the portions of this Ministry that come under Transport. I know we will have another chance to talk about the other two departments in this …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: There is no greater investment, Mr. Chairman, than people. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Minister. That ends and the time has expired in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2025/26. And the heads, which were Heads 71, 34, 48, 35, 30, have been debated and the time has expired. I …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 71, 34, 48, 35 and 30 be approved. Is there an objection to that motion? There is no objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Tourism and Transport, Culture and Sport Heads 71, 34, 48, 35 and 30 were approved and stand part …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. You can [move to] rise. Hon. Owen Darrell: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Committee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? There appears to be no objection to the motion. It is agreed to. Thank you very much. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It has been moved that the Committee rise, report progress and seek leave to sit again. And that motion was approved. So, Members, that brings us to the next part of the day, and as I understand it, I believe that all [other] matters have been carried over. So, all …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It has been moved that the House adjourn until Friday, May 16, at 10:00 am. Does anyone wish to speak to this motion? There is no one who wishes to speak to this motion. The House has adjourned. [At 8:20 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am Friday, 16 …
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