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September 15, 2017

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Sep 15, 2017
Session 2016/2017
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585 speeches from 36 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes have been confirmed for the 8th of September 2017. Confirmed. The Clerk: Are there any objections?
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. [Minutes of 8 September 2017 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING
The Speaker The Speaker At this time, we will do the swearing- in and oaths for the Members who were not here last week. Madam Clerk, would you like to call those Members? The Clerk: Okay. Members, the Honourable M. H. Dunkley, Mr. L. C. Cannonier, Mrs. J. J. Atherden, and the Honourable T. …
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden I do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law, so help me God. OATH OF ALLEGIANCE MR. L. CRAIG CANNONIER
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I do swear that I will be fait hful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law, so help me God. OATH OF ALLEGIANCE HON. TREVOR G. MONIZ Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: I do swear that I will be faithful and …
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden Mr. Speaker, and Members of the House, I, being a Member of this present Assembly, do swear by Almighty God to use and employ my best endeavour therein for the general good 14 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly without any respect to private interest, gain …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I, being a Member of this present Assembly, do swear by Almighty God to use and employ my best endeavour therein for the general good without any respect to private interest, gain or advantage, striving to discharge a good conscience in all equity and integrity during my continuance therein. OATH …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. I think now all Members of the House have been duly sworn in. The next announcement will be that of the sessional and standing committees . Members, there are seven such committees. SESSIONAL SELECT COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to do the sessional ones first, the first being the Register of Members’ Inte rests. The chairman for that will be the Honourable Member, Mr. Michael Weeks. The next m ember will actually come from the Senate, the Senator , Mr. Vance Campbell. The other m ember …
The Speaker The Speaker The next three committees are named “Annual” that being the House and Grounds . The chairman for that is the Deputy Speaker, the Honourable D. V. Burgess; the Honourable S. A. Simmons ; the Honourable L. A. Scott; the Honourable L. C. Cannonier; the Honourable B. S. Smith. Then there …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker We have three papers. And I will first recognis e Mr. Premier. SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES ( NO. 1 ) FOR FINANCIAL YEAR 2017/18 Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to powers conferred by section 96(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to attach and …
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have a second one, Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. B ermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY ANNUAL REPORT 2016 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the House of Assembly the Bermuda Monetary Authority Annual Report 2016, laid for information of the House of A ssembly.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The third communication, is that of the Minister of Health? Minister Wilson. BERMUDA HEALTH COUNCIL ANNUAL REPORT 2017 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. No more communications? [ No audible response] PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker I believe we have nine Statements this morning. Premier, will you lead off?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Mr. Speaker, do we have the written Statement s?
The Speaker The Speaker They were circulated. They should be on your desk. Any Member who does not have them, just let us know. [ Pause] The Clerk: All Members were circulated their copies. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, am I okay to pr oceed?
The Speaker The Speaker Everyone comfortable? They have got their copies? Proceed, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Speaker: Thank you. SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to provide information on Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for 2017/18, which was tabled in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. The next Statement is that of the Minister of Tourism, Honourable Member, Mr. Simmons. Minister. AUDIT OF THE BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY FOR THE YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2016 Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, and good morning, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to provide this Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. I believe the next Statement is from the Honourable Minister for Health, Minister Wilson. BERMUDA’S 50 MILLION STEPS CHALLENGE Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker , I stand before this Honourable House to highlight an important initiative within the Ministry of Health, namely, “Bermuda’s 50 Million Steps …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement that we have is that of the Minister of Home Affairs, Minister Brown. Minister Brown, the floor is yours. THE NEXT WAVE OF CHANGES TO IMMIGRATION POLICIES AND PROCEDURES Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, as the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Can I ask you to pause for one second? I think other Members have their micr ophones on. Just as a caution to other Members, please make sure your microphone is off, because your co nversation could be transferred over the airways. Minister, resume your Statement. Hon. Walton Brown: …
The Speaker The Speaker Just do not start at the beginning; that is all. [Laughter] Hon. Walton Brown: So, I rise today to communicate that the following changes are in train: 1. enhancements to the Musician/Entertainer Policy; 2. careful assessments of Statements of Employment; 3. closer monitoring of the recruitment processes by employers; and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement we have is from the Mi nister of Social Development and Sport, the Honour able Zane De Silva. Minister, you have the floor. BERMUDA’S PARTICIPATION IN CARIFESTA XIII Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, “Asserting Our Culture, Cel …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement on the Order Paper is that from the Minister of National Security, the Honourable Minister Caines. Minister, you have the floor. GRANTS FROM THE CONFISCATED ASSETS FUND Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Members and the public will recall that the amendments of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister, I also understand you have a second Statement. You can continue with that one now. ROYAL BERMUDA REGIMENT AND BERMUDA POLICE SUPPORT RELIEF EFFORTS IN THE CARIBBEAN Hon. Wayne Caines: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am immensely proud to advise this Honourable House that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The next Statement we have is that of the Minister of Education and Workforce Development. Minister Rabain, you have the floor. UPDATE ON THE BOARD OF EDUCATION’S STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. And good morning to our honourable colleagues; welcome …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Now, that was actually the last Statement that was listed on today’s orders. But we have another Statement from a Minister who asked to seek the i ndulgence of the House, Minister of Works.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, good morning. I rise — B ermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Please, please. Seek the indulgence of your colleagues first; being that it was not on the O rder Paper.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I thought I had your indulgence, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter and inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Seek the indulgence . . .
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch It is your House, is it not?
The Speaker The Speaker Seek the indulgence of your co lleagues.
Lt. Col. Hon. Da vid A. Burch I seek the indulgence of my colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker I gather that your colleagues approve?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on, Minister. BERMUDA LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY LIMITED
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, colleagues. I rise today to inform Members of this House and the public about the state of affairs that was discovered at the Bermuda Land Development Company Limited [BLDC] upon assuming office. Mr . Speaker, this is a part of my duty that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That concludes the Statements by Ministers.
Madam Clerk. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD 26 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Before we go to Question Period, let me just state, for our new Members particularly, that Question Period and the Congratulatory and/or Obit uary Speeches will not be taken as maiden …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a question, as you noted, on the Statement of Supplementary Estimates, to the Premier. Is the Honourable Member aware that, follo wing the AC [America’s Cup] events in July, due to r esponsible budgeting and careful cost control, the A CBDA has projected a …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. In regard to the question, Mr. Speaker, I would only ask if the Honourable Member is aware that section 96(3) of the Bermuda Constitution Order states, and I quote, “If in respect of any financial year it is found …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Dr. Gibbons, Honourable Member.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Does the Honourable Member understand that this ACBDA cash surplus means that, despite his media claims to the contrary, no additional taxpayer monies will need to be spent and that the overall ACBDA and Ministry of Economic budget will come in under budget for the event?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, it is amazing the amount of information that a former Minister of Go vernment has. And it seems though, if the systems are working, they are alive and well. But what the Minister may not know is that just yesterday in the Ministry …
The Speaker The Speaker Dr. Gibbons, is it a supplementary or a new question?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker; supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Is the Honourable Member aware that calculations for the final AC sponsorship guarantee were complicated by a variety of rev enues, including rentals, ticket sales, and performance factors on some of the sponsorships, that would only be known following the finals, and that it would have been impossible in January, …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, what I am aware of is that that Minister, or that former Minister, was told by the ACBDA to budget $18 million, at a minimum, for the guarantee. That is what we have found. He can say whatever is necessary insofar as …
The Speaker The Speaker Dr. Gibbons. B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker This would have to be a new question, because you used your two supplementaries. QUESTION 2 : SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, a new question. Thank you. Thank you. Apart from the Honourable Member’s implic ation that there has been improper transfer of information, there was actually an ACBDA board meeting in July, which I attended. So, with respect to the Statement on budgeting, is the Honourable Member fully aware of …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am reminded of an old adage. When you are in the hole, you should probably stop digging. What is very clear, Mr. Speaker, is that the former Government was told by the ACBDA that they should budget at least $18 million. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Former Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker The Honourable Member Gibbons, a supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Does the Hon ourable Premier understand that, in developing a budgeted amount, there are more issues — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. The Clerk: What is the point of order? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is asking if the Premi …
The Speaker The Speaker Wait, wait — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What kind . . . you know? The Clerk: That is not a point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker The next Honourable Member who rises for a point of order, please do not proceed until you have been recognised by this Speaker. Thank you.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member Gibbons, continue.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons I will repeat it. Would the Honourabl e Member c oncede that there are mor e issues i nvolv ed in getting a bu dgeted amount t han simply getting a recommendation from one part of the overall A CBDA and Ministry gr oup, and that certainly discussions woul d …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, no matter how many times he asks the question, and no matter how many times he wishes to try to get me to understand . . . I understand very clearly, as the Minister of F inance and the one who was …
The Speaker The Speaker Excuse me one sec, Minister. Hon. E. David Burt: —as many points in time as you like.
The Speaker The Speaker One sec, Minister. Members in the Gallery, you will be escorted out of this Chamber if you do not respect the Chamber that you are in. Members in the Gallery are to be quiet at all times and not partic ipate in any of the proceedings that take place in …
The Speaker The Speaker Whilst on my feet, let me also reco gnise one of our former Members who is sitting in the Gallery today, the Honourable Walter Lister. Nice to have you visit with us, Member. [Desk thumping and applause]
The Speaker The Speaker Do not clap in the Gallery, please. That was not an invitation for you to clap. [ Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Please do not participate. Thank you. Member Gibbons, do you have a supplementary? [ Question Period continuing]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I do. The issue, the next one I want to raise a question on comes after the fact that there was no promise ever to cover the full $25 million; the Honourable Member knows that. So the question is, Would the Honourable Member concede …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, as I said, when you are in a hole, you should stop digging. As many know, it does not matter how many times this Honourable former Minister —and I say “former Minister” because he should recognise what happened on July 18th, that …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker The Honourable Member Furbert, from Hamilton Parish, you can continue. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Premier, based on the $18 million that was told by the ACBDA that the budget would be, and they only budgeted for $15 …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member 2017.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I thank the Ho nourable Member for his question. And he asked, if the former Government was given a figure that they should have put in the budget and they put a lower figure, were they fuzzing the numbers? And I think …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. No further supplementaries? B ermuda House of Assembly Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Well, I am going with Honour able Member Weeks as the second person who wanted to ask a question of you, Premier. Mr. Weeks, continue on. QUESTION 1: SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to you. Mr. Speaker, can the Honourable Premier please advise the Honourable House and the properly listening public if there are any other unexpected ex-penses from the America’s Cup which you have found, which may not be captured in this supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier, go ahead. I will allow it. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. What I would note, and I thank the Honour able Member for his question . . . what I would note is, I think I mentioned it earlier today, that yesterday we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. But let me remind Members, when you are asking your questions, try and keep them to the Statement that was read. I allowed a little leeway on that one. When you got up, Member Weeks, you ind icated that it was outside of the Statement. I gave …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. The next Member is our Member from Warwick [South East], the Honourable Lawrence Scott . Mr. Scott, would you like to ask your question? QUESTION 1 : SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18
Mr. W. L awrence S cott Yes, Mr . Speaker. I a m a little disturbed at what I heard in the Statement, and I just want to get some confirmation. The last Parliament, we were told by the former Government that we would not have to pay rent to Aecon. The Premier is now telling …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I thank the Ho nourable Member for his question, and he is absolutely right that the former Government misled this Parliament and misled the people of this country. Because the former Minister of Works was asked, very simply, whether or not we would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Any supplementaries? No supplementaries. The next Member who indicated he had a question on this Statement would be the Honourable Minister Furbert. Member Furbert, do you still have a question? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It was asked already . . .
The Speaker The Speaker He asked it as a supplementary; okay. Minister Weeks . . . Member Weeks, rather, you had gone down earlier as an indication; you asked yours as a supplementary? 30 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Michael A. Weeks: No. I asked mine as a …
The Speaker The Speaker As a question. You are fine. The Honourable Member Commissiong. QUESTION 1 : SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It appears that the America’s Cup not only failed politically, but also commercially. But just segueing to the issue of the airport and Aecon, in the Premier’s Statement he talks about the redevelopment of the airport. And the anticipated supplementary shows that taxpayers will need to …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it will come . . . and I thank the Honourable Member for his question, and it will come as, it would seem, a recurring theme that the people are having to pay for the missteps of the former …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Any supplementaries? No supplementaries. The next Member who had indicated that she had questions on this Stat ement is the Honourable Member, J. J. Atherden. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Put your microphone on, please. QUESTION 1 : SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden Mr. Speaker, this question is, obviously, to the Minister of Finance and the Premier. In the Statement you indicated that, although it is customary to have supplementary estimates put before the legislature just prior to the conclusion of a fiscal year, you determined that, because there was a change in …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, Premier, you are on your feet so I will allow you to go ahead and continue. Go ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if you do not want me to answer the question, that is fine.
The Speaker The Speaker I was just wondering if it was outside of the Statement that was written. But you are on your feet; continue, then. Hon. E. David Burt: All I would say, Mr. Speaker, is that I do believe that there was different timing that took place. And I do believe that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Do you have a supplementary? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have a suppl ementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. We recognise the Leader of the Opposition, Ms. Gordon- Pamplin. You have t he floor. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just wonder if the Premier and Finance Minister would be prepared to confirm that the initial accounting respecting the event of …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: I am certain I am not actually following what the Minister is saying. But I will attempt to answer it. If the Minister is saying because we had an election that there was no ability to table a suppl ementary, that is fine. I think …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Ms. Atherden, is this a supplementary for your original, or a second question?
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden This is a second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. QUESTION 2 : SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden Will the Minister of F inance indicate to this House whether supplementaries are normally put at the end of the fiscal year? B ecause there could be changes within the budget est imates, and t herefore it might not actually result in an overrun. And that to turn around and …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I will read to the Shadow Minister of Finance Bermuda Constitution Order 96(3) again, where it clearly states that “ in respect of any financial year it is found . . . that the amount appropriated by the Appropriation law to any …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Any further questions? Thank you, Members. For this Statement?
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, for the Premier.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. The Honourable Member Weeks, you have the floor. QUESTION 1 : SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18
Mr. Michael A. Wee ks Yes, Mr. Speaker. In today’s daily, I was reading this morning that the Opposition Leader said that the former Government’s projections had indicated that there will be no need to call on the guarantee. However, Mr. Speaker, the Premier’s Statement sai d that the former Government was told to budget …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Member for his question because I found the comments of the Opposition Leader in the new spaper to be rather interesting. Because the Opposition Leader is saying she is clearly not in agreement with the other Members …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank yo u, Mr. Premier. Supplementary?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Question.
The Speaker The Speaker Before I recognise you, I would like to recognise Mr. Tyrrell, who is the last person who had indicated that he had wanted to speak on this. Mr. Tyrrell, you have the floor, Honourable Member. QUESTION 1 : SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2017/18
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, everyone. Not wanting to belabour this point, but in the Premier’s Statement, the Premier said that the former Government did not include any money in the budget for additional ferry services for the America’s Cup. Was the former Government unaware that if you have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. That has completed all of the Members who had indicat ed that they wished to ask questions on that Statement. So we are going to move on to the second Statement, that of the Minister of Tourism, Minister Simmons’ Statement regarding the Bermuda Tourism Authority. We …
The Speaker The Speaker You have the fl oor. QUESTION 1: AUDIT OF THE BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY FOR THE YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2016 Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in this Statement it says that there is no evidence to support either compensation or remuneration. Minister, will you …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have a mandate to ensure that every ent ity under our remit operates at the highest ethical and accounting standards. And we will do so.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary? Okay. All right. The next person who indicated that he had a question is the Member from Warwick [South East], the Honourable Lawrence Scott. QUESTION 1: AUDIT OF THE BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY FOR THE YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2016
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minister, on page 2, you itemised a number of things. I am looking at item number 5, lack of signed contracts for serv ices and sponsorships. With who were the contracts not signed?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for that question, Honourable Member. The entities —there were 10 entities that fell into [the group with] a lack of a signed contract for services and sponsorship: JetBlue, in the amount of $2,745,000; Travel Places, in the amount …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any supplementaries? Deputy Speaker, you have a supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on number 12 in this report, it states that the committee did not meet every quarter. Now, we do know (it was mentioned in this House), …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister? Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker The answer is yes. Thank you. It was so brief it got past us. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Any other supplementaries? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Supplementary. B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I have not recognised you yet. I actually heard the voice of your Leader first on this side. So, the Leader of the Opposition, Gordon- Pamplin. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker; supplementary question. Can the Honourable Minister advise how much was paid for meetings …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: I would be glad to provide that information to you at a future time. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Well, I know certain things; not all, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary? The Honourable Member Gibbons, from P aget [East]. SUPPLEMENTARY
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think, as we are all aware, the BTA is a semi -autonomous organisation and must be accountable for its own governance. But generally, when audit recommendations or suggestions are made by the auditor, there is the ability for management to provide their own response, because …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I would, as well as the full audit report, once I have it.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Supplem entary? SUPPLEMENTARY Mr. W. Lawrence Scott: Yes, supplementary. Mr. Minister, can you explain what happens to those companies and organisations that have been given money from the BTA without a contract?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Honourable Member. Since we have just received this information recently, we are actually looking through this to see what actually we are on the hook for, if necessary.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Is it a supplementary? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, I am going to take the Mini ster—I caught his eye first —and come back to you. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Oh, I am sorry. That is all right.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister De Silva, supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zan e J. S. De Silva: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. Minister, we know that the board members of the BTA, or most of the board members of the BTA, currently get $20,000 per year. Can you give us an undertaking, if you do not have …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you. Yes, I will.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Okay. The other Member who has indicated he has an actual question would be Minister Furbert, from Hamilton Parish. Minister Furbert, Wayne Furbert. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Minister?
The Speaker The Speaker I am sorry; Member, Member. I am sorry. Member Furbert, you can continue. QUESTION 1: AUDIT OF THE BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY FOR THE YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2016 34 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I just want to ask …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: I will make an undertaking to do so, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead, Minister De Silva. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Minister, can you confirm the amount of this 30 per cent bonus that was paid to the CEO, please?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Unfortunately, that information was not pr ovided in the report that I received, but we actually are asking to get those numbers to you. And I would be able to provide an update as soon as I have t hem.
The Speaker The Speaker I take that as that is an undertaking which you will bring to the House in the future. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Yes, sir. Definitely.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. All Members who had indicated that they had questions to the Minister of Tourism have spoken. We are now going to move on to the next Statement. And the next Statement was that of the Minister of Health, the Honourable Minister Wilson. And there is a question …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I have one question for the Minister of Health. I am just wondering . . . I note here that the last STEPS survey was in 2014. When is the next STEPS survey? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Minister. Continue. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you for that question, to the Honourable Member. We are looking to actually conduct another survey for our younger population, because the STEP S survey did address the adult population, and the Ministry thinks that it is necessary for us to look …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Minister. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No. One more. [May I] ask another question?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2 : BERMUDA’S 50 M ILLION STEPS CHALLENGE
Ms. Susan E. Jackson This is another question, second question, to the Minister. I am just wondering if you could tell us the difference between this STEPS survey and previous STEPS surveys —I mean, not the surveys, the actual chall enge. I am sorry. What is the difference? So, we are having the challenge …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I am not 100 per cent sure I understand the question insofar as the di fference between this walking challenge and a prev ious one. As I understand it (but I can get further i nformation from the Ministry and revert), this is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. No other Members have indicated that they have questions for the Minister of Health. We will now move on to the fourth Statement, that from the Minister of Home Affairs, Minister Brown. And we have tw o Members who have indicated that they have questions. The first …
The Speaker The Speaker You look surprised. You indicated you had a question for the Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Oh, yes. I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. I did not hear the preface. I was not sure what the question was.
The Speaker The Speaker You have the floor. QUESTION 1: THE NEXT WAVE OF CHANGES TO IMMIGRATION POLICIES AND PROCEDURES Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you. My question is for the Honourable Minister for Immigration, and the question is with respect to page 1 in terms of “careful assessments of Stat ements of …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Absolutely. If there is a finding of misinformation, false information, in an application form, then that person will not be awarded a work permit.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have a new question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 2: THE NEXT WAVE OF CHANGES TO IMMIGRATION POLICIES AND PROCEDURES Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the Minister could explain to this Honourable House how stringently the scrutiny process is being applied in light of recent approvals of work permits that fall …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Opposition Leader is referring to a singular case, which has been well documented in the public domain. And that — Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. Minister, just yield for a minute. What is your point of order? POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: My point of order is that I am not referring to a specific case that has been well documented in the public.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I am talking about a separate incident.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. You clarified your point. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, she has indicated. . .the Member is indicating that she is not —her comments, rather, were not in reference to a single matter. Hon. Walton Brown: Yes. Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member’s comments are duly noted. What I will say is that we will vigorously enforce Immigration pol icy …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any supplementary or new question? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I will ask a new question, because the Minister is down on a totally different tangent.
The Speaker The Speaker This is your third question. QUESTION 3: THE NEXT WAVE OF CHANGES TO IMMIGRATION POLICIES AND PROCEDURES Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: My third question is with respect to passports and the Minister’s indic ation that we will take back the printing. My question is, has this vexatious subject been …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the Honourable Member for that question. We are currently doing a Request for Inform ation to find out what the cost is. Once we identify that cost, we will be pursuing vigorously with the UK Government what we consider …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary? Any? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: No.
The Speaker The Speaker All Members have indicated . . . Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Question.
The Speaker The Speaker There is one other Member who has indicated that he has a question. That is the Honour able Member from Hamilton Parish. Honourable Member Wayne Furbert, you have the floor. QUESTION 1: THE NEXT WAVE OF CHANGES TO IMMIGRATION POLICIES AND PROCEDURES Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can give a few examples. In one case, a company made application for five different work per-mits. And normally, the work permits are examined individually so one would not have identified a trend. But in this case, we put all the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Wow. Hon. Walton Brown: In another category of potential abuse, an employee —her position was terminated. The employer sent two individuals to her house with a plane ticket, telling her she needed to be on the next flight out of Bermuda. And the employer, her former employer, had no jurisdiction …
The Speaker The Speaker A supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have a suppl ementary on this question, to the Minister. Has the Minister continued the policy of, when appeals come to the Minister that the initial answer is no? And the yes has to be justified?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Mr. Speaker, I assumed the position with a clean slate. We were not burdened by past practices or policies. So, every single application is considered in light of its merits. I take no position prior to the application coming before me. I look at the opinion …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. All of the persons who have indicated that they have . . . Is this a supplementary? Supplementary. The Honourable Member Ralph [sic] Commissiong.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is Rolfe, with an “O.”
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Mr. Commissiong. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Will the Minister concede that these practi ces have the effect of dis -incentivising the hiring of Bermudians?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Walton Brown: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Without doubt, it has provided a disincentive. But as of July 18 th, that practice has come to an end.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. All Members who indicated that they had questions for Minister Brown have asked their questions. We are going to move on to the next Stat ement. The next Statement in which there are ques-tions is actually the Statement from the Minister of Bermuda House of Assembly National Security, …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I notice that in this Statement, that it was r eferred to a couple of other Ministers. But I will just take your guidance and . . . my first question is the breakdown of funds, if the Minister responsible could pr ovide a breakdown …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, we defer and seek your leave on the next occasion to have a complete breakdown for this most Honourable Hous e.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott This is a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott If we defer . . . If he can, if the Minister can now, or if he can defer, simply make the commitment, what did the majority of the funds go to? So that is what we are looking for, what I am looking for there, if he cannot do …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I will give this to the Minister of Finance.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Honourable Member for his question. The Confiscated Assets Fund had a number of funds that came into it and a lot of the funds that went out of it. Funds were spent for Cashback for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It was $111,000.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary from the Deputy Speaker. Deputy Speaker, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister, how much of these funds went to the National Anti - Money Laundering Committee? And also, how muc h money …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I would like to defer this to the Minister of Finance, the Premier, the Minister of Finance.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The total amount of money that was in the Confiscated Assets Fund since 2015—the total amount of money that has been recovered has been $10.7 million. Out of $10.7 million, 6 million of those dollars have been transferred …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Is this a supplementary? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary from the Member from Hamilton Parish, Mr. Furbert. SUPPLEMEN TARY Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister of Finance tell us who is this Cooley company and why did they get so much money? 38 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The Cooley LLP is the law firm which was hired by the former Attorney General out of the United States, in the amount . . . and there is one payment that is listed out of the Confiscated Assets …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Supplementary? Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Health, the Honourable Kim Wilson, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. I wonder if the Honourable Minister could answer. Is it not correct that the initial purpose of the Confiscated Assets Fund, as established under the then- PLP Government, was to (a) give …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. W ayne C aines: Mr . Speaker, t he reason why this f und was s et up was to benefit t he community. Indeed, a number of c ommunity entities ha ve been the beneficiaries of this fund. It is unclear an d it is unexplainable why …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you should yield for a minute. Point of order? The Honourable Member, Mr. Moniz. Mr. Moniz, you have the floor. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Ho n. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Those Honourable Members are all misleading the House. They need to go back and look at …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, would you like to continue? Hon. Wayne Caines: Yes, Mr. Speaker. We are aware that the Attorney General does have a budget. Under that budget, he had the opportunity to put matters that are with reference to litigation and articulate that in the budget. It is our submission that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary? This is your second suppl ementary, Mr. Scott. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Yes, this is my second su pplementary. With the Premier’s stating that this fund had $10-plus million in 2015, and the Minister of National Security saying that now, at this date, it is now depleted, why are we only hearing about this now? And why were we not . . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, it is obviously deeply concerning, with the letters going out. Any ac-count . . . you know, anyone . . . the former Minister of Finance would understand that if you are looking at the fund and you are seeing a total …
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on, hold on. Is this a point of order or a question? Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: A point of order. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: The Honourable Member is misleading the House again. The nature of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Minister, would you like to continue to his point of order? Hon. Wayne Caines: Indeed.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Hon. Way ne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I have just seen a recent post from the former Premier, the Honourable Michael Dunkley. And he has indicated that at his last knowledge there was $300,000 left in the fund. If there was indeed $300,000 left in this fund, then how come …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Moniz, is this a point or order or a question? Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: It is a point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker The point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: The Member is getting very close to personal abuse.
The Speaker The Speaker I will determine that. I will determine that, Member. Just speak to your point of order. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Yes. Yes, you will. But he is getting very close to personal abuse.
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to your point of order or take your seat. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: But the fact is that I would put him to proof t hat there was any, any going outside of the purpose of the fund on the monies which were expended.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: And those funds, as he said before, were actually approved by the Minister of F inance and the Minister of Jus tice.
The Speaker The Speaker You have stated your point. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, would you like to continue? Hon. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, there was $300,000 set aside for the community aspect of the project. There is only $100, 000 available to these people.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Wayne Caines: You over promised and you under delivered.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Mr. Burgess, you actually had your name down to ask a question. Is that a question or just a supplementary? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: A supplementary, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister, what did the National Anti-Money Laundering Committee use that $730,000 for? And also, do they have a budget to operate on?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, or Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: I will take the question. I will undertake to get to the Honourable Member the specific use of the funds of that allocation that was given. I can get that information for him. 40 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker I have actually moved on, Member, moved on. The matter of the Minister of Works, and the question is coming from the Opposition Leader, the Honourable Gordon- Pamplin. QUESTION 1: THE BERMUDA LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY LIMITED Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on the first …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, do you care to respond?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I have no knowledge of what the Opposition Leader is asserting.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Member, do you have a supplementary or another question? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Minister ca nnot count, so I guess I will just ask another question.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, ask another question. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. Was the lack of information that was required to complete the audited accounts the result of questionable activities by the previous board members that had been subject to public scrutiny?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? Would you like to respond, Minister?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I am aware of the attempt that is being made. I can report that the management and board at the Bermuda Land Development Corporation had provided the information for the audits for those five years of the former administration, being in governm ent, and they have not been …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Ms. Gordon- Pamplin, supplementary or new question? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: [The years] 2010, 2011, and 2012 were years that were under the pur-view of the previous administration. Can the Honour able Minister at least acknowledge that those have yet to be done?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, as I said in the Statement, the years 2010 and 2011 have been submitted to the Auditor General . . . (Sorry.) [Inaudible interjection]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, recently. Completed by the Auditor General and are ready for t abling at the next AGM.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Ms. Gordon- Pamplin, is this a supplementary or a new question? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Is the Honourable Minister awa re that new audits cannot be undertaken until the prior audits have been completed?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, amazingly, I am aware. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch But let me say this, Mr. Speaker. Irrespective of the fact that 2010 and 2011 accounts have been audited late, it still is no excuse that five years of accounting have not even been submitted to the Auditor General for consideration. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you, Minister. …
The Speaker The Speaker No. You have had two supplementaries. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay. Then I will pass.
The Speaker The Speaker The other Member who indicated he had questions was the Honourable Member Gibbons, from Paget [East]. Member Gibbons, you have the floor. QUESTION 1: THE BERMUDA LAND DEVELO PMENT COMPANY LIMITED
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you. Could the Honourable Member give us an indication of what clearly must have been some very serious issues that arose in the 2010 and 2011 years of the BLDC, under the former Government —that is, the former PLP Government —that would have delayed these accounts being audited by, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, would you like to respond?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, yes, I will respond. That seems to be a question that should more accurately be directed to the Auditor General, who is unable to provide the audited accounts for the BLDC, both during the time of our term in Government, as well as for the entire time of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any other . . . is it a supplementary? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary from the Minister De Silva. Minister, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Minister, I would like to ask you: Irrespective of the year -end accounts not being available, would this stop the shareholders from holding annual ge neral meetings?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The fact that there are not audited accounts available would not stop them from having an AGM, because they could submit unaudited accounts, as is taking place on. . . I do not recall the date. But a date for an AGM under the pr esent shareholders has been set. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Yes, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Honourable Member from Warwick [South East], Mr. Lawrence Scott. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you. Mr. Speaker, could you get the Minister to answer if it is his belief that the former OBA Gover nment could have brought everything up to date r egardless of what had happened under the previous PLP administration?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, would you like to respond?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, yes, it is my belief that this could have happened. I think that certainly the previous shareholders of the Bermuda Land Development Company could have implored the Auditor General to proceed with auditing the accounts for the years 2012 through 2016 and have an AGM.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I have a suppl ementary question.
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Leader of the Oppos ition, Mrs. Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you. Would the Minister advise this Honourable House whether an auditor general can complete an audit on accounts when the prior year’s audit is still outstanding? (You cannot bring …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, would you like to respond?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, no, they cannot. But just as they were able to complete the accounts for two years, they could have completed the accounts for seven years.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. 42 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Gibbons, this is a supplementary, or do you want to go on to your further question? Because I think you have one question left.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Sorry; I have only asked one question.
The Speaker The Speaker So you have two questions. Are you going back there, or is this a supplementary on that?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons It will be a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Since the audited accounts, according to the Minister, have only recently been completed by the Office of the Auditor General, would it not be accurate to say that an AGM would have been academic before those financial statements were really available? In other words, what …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, would you like to respond?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, there is no excuse, in my humble opinion, to sit in Government as a shareholder of a company for five years. And that Honourable Member would know better. I cannot i magine that in any other company in which he is a shareholder or a board member, that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Let me remind Members that this hour expires at 12:13. We are now at 12:11. We have got two minutes left. Supplementary or a new question?
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you. To the Minister, would it not be fair to say that, really, the bulk of his criticism is really aimed at the Auditor General and not the former Government, gi ven the serious delay in actually auditing those 2010 and 2011 accounts?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, again.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, as I indicated in my Statement, I think there is enough blame to go around between both the Auditor General and the shareholders of BLDC.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Deputy, is this a supplementary? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: No, a question, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. You were down to ask the question. Yes, continue. QUESTION 1: TH E BERMUDA LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY LIMITED Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Minister, the inaction of the Auditor some will call mismanagement or mal-administration. Will a complaint be made to the Go vernor about the Auditor?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, would you like to respond?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, thank you, Honourable Member, for that question. I believe the Auditor General falls under the category of being a constitutional officer. So, whilst the Governor appoints her, he is not her bos s. But certainly, I would imagine that the discussions that are occurring in this House will …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The time has expired for our questions. We had a very lively period, but it is an hour. And the hour has passed. The next item on the Order Paper is actually the condolences and congratulations. MOMENT OF SILENCE [In memory of Honourable Shawn G. Crockwell, MP]
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to ask Members to join me on my feet and observe a moment of silence to recognise one of our Members who passed during the close of this House, namely, the Honourable Member, Mr. Shawn Crockwell. Gallery, will you please rise as well on this for us, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. You can take your seats. And we are now on the Congratulatory Bermuda House of Assembly and/or Obituary Speeches. Members are mindful that these are three- minute speeches. I recognise the Premier. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does anyone else wish to speak on cond olences and congratulations? I recognise the Honour able Member from St. George's West, Mr. Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes. Good day, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for the acknowledgement. I would like condolences to be sent to the family of Marshall Dowling, a dear friend from Welling-ton Back Road, Suffering Lane community, who suc-cumbed to illness rec ently. Also, to the family of John T. Clarke, from Ferry …
The Speaker The Speaker You can take advantage while you are on your feet now if you wish to.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Well, thank you for that, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to say that Mr. Crockwell’s contribution to Bermuda will be duly noted in many spheres. I knew Mr. Crockwell especially from a family connection, as I just today saw his father driving east. And I am very close to …
The Speaker The Speaker Time. We appreciate your comments. Any other Member? I will recognise the Mini ster of Sport, Minister De S ilva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 44 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Your time is up, Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Would any other Member wish to speak? Dr. Gibbons. We recognise Dr. Gibbons, from Paget.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would also rise this morning (or this afternoon, at this point), to ask that condolences be sent to the family of the late William “Billy” Boyle, who, many members will know, was a member of the Corporation [of Hamilton] for many, many years. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I now recognise the Honourable Member, Mr. Commissiong. Mr. Commissiong, you have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As m any of us know, life can be fleeting. Certainly, those who have been blessed with long life are indeed truly blessed. I just want to take time out to offer some condolences here. Firstly, I will go in order of age and seniority. We …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Exactly, the Anderson fam ily. Lastly, I want to congratulate the young Mr. (if you just give me a chance to pull this up here), the young Mr. Waleed Lightbourne, who became a male nurse. [Timer beeps]
The Speaker The Speaker Time is up. Time is up. [Crosstalk]
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong And I want to just thank him for his accomplishment. Thank you, Mr . Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I now recognise the Minister for Works and Engineering. Mr. Burch, you have the floor.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. I will not need to go three minutes. I would like to be associated with the condolences to the Honourable Shawn Crockwell, Mr. Terrence Smith, Mrs. Deborah Tannock, and Captain Lar-ry Burchall. I would also ask that condolences be sent to the family of …
Mr. Zuri Darrell. Thank you. The Speaker Thank y ou, Minister. Before we recognise anyone else, I think we all should be cognisant of the time. It is now 12:30. And the Premier has asked the Minister of Health to be acknowledged. Minister of Health.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Mr. Speaker, I move that the Hous e do now adjourn for health [sic] .
The Speaker The Speaker For lunch, for lunch. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker I hope you are going to have a healthy lunch. Is that what you are indicating? 46 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The House is now adjourned until 2:00 pm. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12 :30 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:02 pm [Hon. Dennis P. …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are now . . . proceedings are open after lunch. We are going to continue the Obituaries and Condolences. Does any Member wish to speak to that? I recognise the Member from . . . honourable Scott Simmons. Mr. Simmons, you have the floor. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES …
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I want I rise on a sad note and I ask that this Honourable House send condolences to the family of the late RaKim Toriano (Scrooge) E dness Hall. And I ask also that . . . and I see that a …
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Simmons. I recognise the Honourable Mr. Furbert from Hamilton Parish. Mr. Furbert, you have the seat . . . you have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I would like to first of all be associated with the condolences …
The Speaker The Speaker That is your time, Me mber. We appr eciate your comments. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you. I will continue next week.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member , Mr. Cole Simons. Mr. Simons, you have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Co le Simons Thank you . Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I rise today to send congratul atory remarks to the new teachers that joined the Bermuda Government team in September. In June they had a teacher induction ceremony and I would like to recognise th e new teachers: Ms. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Simons. Are there any other Members? I recognise the Member from St. George’s [North], the Honourable R. Ming. Ms. Ming, you have the floor.
Mrs. Renee Ming Thank you, Mr. Speaker . At this time I would like to extend condolences to the family of Mr. Albert Churm, Sr. (aka “Shorty”) from St. George’s, and also Albert Churm, Jr. Unfortunately, the family lost the father and the son within a week’s period. So I just want to …
The Speaker The Speaker What?
Mrs. Renee Ming —just an awesome 2017 event, Mr. Speaker . Richard Allen AME Church for their Women’s Day celebrations. The Bermuda Netball Association for their celebrity exhibition game that was held this week, Mr. Speaker . Also, the Bermuda Bodybuilding Association and also, in particular, Miss Natasha Trott for the Bikini Wellness. …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, did you say congratulations to who for Cup Match?
Mrs. Renee Ming The 2018 Cup Match Champion, St. George’s Cricket Club.
The Speaker The Speaker I think you are bit off on that, but an yway, I am going to hold my comment. [Laughter] 48 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: I recognise the Minister . . . Minister Caines. Minister Caines, you have the floor. Hon. Wayne Caines: …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Wayne Caines: —Mr. Lee Holder was a form idable man in the sporting community serving as a football player, as a referee, and as a member in the legal fraternity in Bermuda and— [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker You would like to be associated. Hon. Wayne Caines: Yes. And, Mr. Speaker , we would like to associate the House with these comments. Mr. Speaker , by way of congratulations, our Under 17 Girls, Mr. Speaker , in one of their games, they scored what could only be considered …
The Speaker The Speaker Sure. Hon. Wayne Caines: Those conclude my remarks,
Mr. Speaker . The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Now, does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from Southam pton [East Central], Ms. Scott. Honourable Member , you have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you , Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I would like to offer condolences to the family of the late Shawn Crockwell. Shawn was a very good friend of mine and when he died his death was one of those things that you will always reme mber where you …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . I recognise the Honourable Member from Southampton as well. The Honourable Member Smith, you have the floor. Yes.
Mr. Ben Smith I would like to send condolences to the family of Roudette Warrington Yearwood from Hamilton Parish.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Ben Smith He suddenly died on the 27 th of July. He gave a lot of time and effort to swimming in Bermuda and I work with his daughters and I know that he will be missed. I would also like to give congratulations to the Youth Commonwealth Team for Berm uda, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I now recognise the Ho nourable Member , Mr. Tyrrell. Mr. Tyrrell, you have the floor.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker , good afternoon. Mr. Speaker , I would ask that this Honourable House send a letter of condolences to the family of the late Mr. Jose Mota of Chapel Hill Road in Sout hampton who passed, as I said recently, at a v ery young age …
The Speaker The Speaker I might be familiar with him, yes .
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell —had a joint giveaway, a back - to-school giveaway. And in . . . well, it was sort of short notice that we did it and we did it via Facebook in terms of getting the information out, and Stacy Mota (who has no connection with either of our constituencies) …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Tyrrell. Are there any other Members that wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member . . . yes, she was just made a Minister. I recognise the Ho nourable Member from Hamilton Parish, Mrs. Furbert. Mrs. Furbert, you have the floor, Honourable Member .
Mrs. Tinee Furbert Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker . I would like to offer congratulations or send congratulations to the Bermuda Bocce Team, which had representatives Yushae Desilva- Andrade, Steve Wilson, Omar Hayward, and Rechai Young. An ass ociation over here. They represented Bermuda in the BISFed America’s Bocce Team Championships in Columbia …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mrs. Tinee Furbert And he is just a great example of how we can age healthy. And so I just want to wish him many, many more years and I am glad that he is in this place today. Also wanting to send condolences out to the family and friends of two constituents: …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Hon ourable Member , Ms. Jackson. Ms. Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I would just like to send condolences to the family of Sophie Laden Fraser -Smith. She tragically lost her life on Election Day on the 18th of July this year, and we are heartily sorry and I would like to as-sociate the whole House with …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Because there is the likel ihood she may have been coming to vote, and we just want to recognise her and send all of our sincerest condolences to the family. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any other Member? We recognise the Ho nourable Member , Mr. Weeks. Mr. Weeks, you have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I would like to start off my r emarks by asking this Honourable House to send congratulatory remarks to Mr. Trevor Lindsay. He was a long-time cameraman for ZBM but now he has got his own news website, which was launched on July …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks —I see the hands going up. Trevor Lindsay is a real entrepreneur, and when he parted ways with ZBM he ventured out into his own business, TNN. So stay tuned because he is one of 50 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly those guys that . …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks So he is one of those guys that, you know, does his thing. Mr. Speaker , on a sad note, I would like to associate myself with the remarks of condolences for Mr. Lee Holder. He was a good friend of mine and, like my honourable colleague, the Minister of …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I understand that.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks So again, I would like to associate the Members of the House with that. I would also like to associate the remarks for the condolences for Mr. Larry Anderson. He was one of my constituents and, like it was said before me, he was very much a baker and cake …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The whole House.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Well, actually the whole House. And when I say “neighbour ,” he stayed in the same complex , he is really right next door to me so he would not let me rest if I do not take a minute to congratulate him on a job well done.
The Speaker The Speaker Good ahead . . .
Mr. Michael A. Weeks You know, and for those few remarks . . . but oh! Mr. Speaker , before I take my seat—Mr. Lawrence Hendrickson. Those that knew him well in Back o’ Town area in Pembroke knew him as “Stickers.” He was like a mentor to us. When I tried to learn …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks —associate myself —
The Speaker The Speaker Time . . . time has passed. Any other Member? I recognise the Leader of the Opposition. Ms. Gordon- Pamplin, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I would like to associate myself with the comments of condolences to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —and Stickers Hendrickson. I would also ask to be associated with the comments to the families of Deborah Tannock (who was a childhood friend and we lived not too far from each other), to the family of Larry Burchall, and the family of William …
The Speaker The Speaker You should associate the whole House on that. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I would like to associate the whole House.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: She is 27 years old, on the faculty of De Montfort University teaching medical biochemistry.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker , Dr. Weldon will have the opportunity this Sunday to pr esent . . . she has been brought in by Think Media u nder the auspices of Ayo Johnson and she is going to be presenting on molecular biology and cell …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —she is instr umental in creating a local charity called the Bermuda Principles charity. And I think she has done yeoman work and has put Bermuda on the map. Her prowess and her intellect are second to none and I believe that everybody, if …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any other Member? I recognise the Member from Warwick [South East]. Mr. Lawrence Scott, you have the floor.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I just rise to . . . I want to have this Honour able House send a le tter of condolences to the family of Tanya Boyles who was a constituen t of mine along Cobbs Hill Road. The Boyles family is synonymous with cricket …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. W. Lawren ce Scott Thank you very much.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 28, Mr. Lister . You have the floor, Honourable Member .
Mr. Dennis Lister III Thank you, Mr. Speaker . First off, I would like to start by offering condolences to the family of Mrs. Karen Graham, a consti tuent of mine from Warwickshire Drive. Next, I would like to offer congratulations to young Mr. Bakari Simons, a constituent of mine. He received a Government …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Dennis Lister III So I would like to offer congratulations to that. Also, birthday congratulations —85 th birthday earlier this month to my grandmother, Ms. Norma Showers . And I would also like to associate [with] the condolences to Mr. Lee Holder. As a current football player, I have had the privilege of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Any other Members? I recognise the Minister for Education. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , first, obviously, I would like to associate with the comments for our former colleague the Honourable Shawn Crockwell. As a …
The Speaker The Speaker The whole House . . . do the House. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —whole House will be associated with that. And lastly, but not least, Mr. Speaker , I would like to send congratulatory comments to Raleigh I nternational. Raleigh International is an organisation that has done a yeoman’s …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Is there any other Honourable Member ? We recognise the Honourable Member , Mr. Famous. Mr. Famous, you have the floor.
Mr. Christopher Famous Thank you, Mr. Speaker . As a proud pond dog I would like to associate myself with the comments for Mr. David “Shaggy” Wi lson and Lawrence “Stickers” Hendrickson, Sr. As we know, Mr. Speaker , the heartbeat of Bermuda is the Gombey drum and the Gombey dancers.
Mr. Christopher Famous And these two gentlemen carried the tradition from our West Indian heritage to this country and they made our country recognised, as the Honourable Minister De Silva spoke, recognised worldwide with the Gombey beat. I would like to give condolences to Mrs. May Jokeman, the mother of Mr. Tony Jokeman …
The Speaker The Speaker Uh, uh, uh, uh. Keep going, Mr. Famous, keep talking.
Mr. Christopher Famous —prior to the election. And as you know, when we do canvass we often end up seeing people in the paper thereafter. I want to give congratulations, first and for emost, to Angela Young who helped to coordinate work rallies to help to bring our schools up to scratch over …
The Speaker The Speaker Very well deserved.
Mr. Christopher Famous —for 120 years of provi ding legacy and leadership to this country, and especially Gold House .
The Speaker The Speaker Green House. Thank you. Any other Member wish to speak? I now recognise the Minister for [Government] Reform. Minister Foggo, you have the floor. Hon. Lovitta F. Foggo: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I stand brief ly to give condolences [regarding] a young man, Colin Smith, who …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member , Jeanne Atherden. Mrs. Atherden, you have the floor.
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I would like to have condolences sent to the family of Mr. William Boyle. Mr. Boyle was one of my constituents and even though he had been away and not well for a while we, obviously, are saddened by his passing. Also …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member wishes to speak? ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Speaker The Speaker Before we move on, I would just lik e to acknowledge Mr. Place again. Congratulations were sent on to Mr. Place for his hundred—recently cel ebrated —100th birthday. And I feel it an honour to have you in our Chambers, Mr. Place. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker So I would like to join— [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker —101, 101 st birthday. Thank you. We wish you continued good health, Mr. Place. And, of course, I would like to be associated with the many remarks that were passed on to our former colleague, Mr. Crockwell. And, as has been said, his performance in this House will be one …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. 54 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we have two Government Bills. Premier? FIRST READINGS REAL ESTATE BROKERS’ LICENSING ACT 2017 CORPORATE SERVICE PROVIDER BUSINESS AMENDMENT ACT 2017 Hon. E. David Burt: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker We would like to recognise the Ho nourable Member , Mr. Commissiong. Mr. Commissiong, you have the floor. JOINT SELECT COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE, REPORT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A LIVING WAGE
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, once again, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I have the distinct privilege to give notice that at the next day of meeting I propose to move the following Motion:
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong WHEREAS it is acknow ledged that the increasing maldistribution of national income has facilitated the growth of income inequality and thus incipient poverty to levels not witnessed in over seven decades; AND WHEREAS, in addition, due to the near widespread utilisation of foreign sourced low cost l abour over the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member Commissiong. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker We are now at Orders of the Day where we will resume now with the consideration of the Speech which his Excellency the Governor was pleased to open this House session with last week. And I believe the Premier will now rise. MESSAGE TO HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR Hon. E. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: “May it please Your Excellency: “We the Members of the House of Assembly of Bermuda thank Your Excellency for the gracious speech with which Your Excellency was pleased to open the present session of Parliament.”
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Would anyone like to speak to this matter? I think at this time we will recognise the Lea der of the Opposition, the Honourable Gordon- Pamplin. Honourable Member , you have the floor. B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker The Replies are being distributed now. REPLY TO THE 2017 THRONE SPEECH Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I would first like to extend my deepest appreciation to the electorate who in 2012 provided the One Bermuda Alliance with the opportunity to serve them …
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on, hold on one minute. 56 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Opposition Leader, will you take your seat? Honourable Member Scott, you have a point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael J. Scott: Yes, if Mr. Speaker , you would recognise my …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your comments, Me mber. As it is the written Throne Speech [Reply], I am going to let the Honourable Member continue with her written Throne Speech [Reply]. I am mindful of the concern that has been expressed and I would, if it was not a written speech, …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, yes? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker , [Stan ding Order] [19](11)(d) says “It shall be out of order to use offens ive and insulting, . . . disrespectful la nguage.” And that is what the Leader of the Opposition is using. Yes, even though …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your view, Deputy. As I said, on this one I am going to let it slide for the time being. If it continues to get worse, I will address it. But continue, Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . We therefore wholeheartedly support …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: —one gets up in this House and makes such accusations like this here, when she says that we heard gross misinformation. Then that information must be produced in this House. You cannot get up in this House . . . it …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Deputy, I have asked . . . I have indicated I am going to give some leniency only because of what it is and we will hold off for the moment, okay? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . We endured the constant barrage of negativity …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Point of order. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —would be gaming operators —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Point of order. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —to determine the purpose of their meeting at the Four Seasons —
The Speaker The Speaker Member, Member , Gordon- Pamplin will you please take your seat? Do you have a point of order? No? Continue on, Madam. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I will repeat. It is said that pol itics make strange bedfellows. We will watch …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Burgess, Mr. Burgess, I am going to ask you to wait until I recognise you first, Deputy. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I am sorry. I am very sorry, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Opposition Leader take your seat. Deputy, you have the floor. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker , one cannot get up in this House and make accusations such as that without, again, producing the evidence. You have got to—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You are desperate. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Nobody is desperate. It is desperation . . . this is a desperation Reply to the Throne Speech and I would ask that this be stricken from the Hansard, Mr. Speaker . We are going to be up all day if this …
The Speaker The Speaker I will let her read on. I have ruled for the time being, Deputy. Thank you. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , this information was alrea dy published in the newspaper. We will watch closely the developments of the questionable New York trip …
The Speaker The Speaker Have a seat, Member. Bermuda House of Assembly Deputy, you have a point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. When the Member says “to hold to account those who have perpetrated such injustice” —that is an indictment. That language needs to be removed from this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your point of order, Deputy. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: It is the Auditor General’s Report, Mr. Speaker . Policing, Criminal behaviour, Gang Violence and Traffic Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, as the OBA Government, we committed to work on sol utions to help eradicate …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Sit . . . you, you, you, you, sit. Thank you. [Desk thumping] The S peaker: I will stand to my feet for one moment and I am going to take liberty at this time. I am going to compliment the last speaker on the tone in which …
The Speaker The Speaker But before [doing] so, let me acknowledge the presence of the President of the Senate. I apologise for not doing it sooner. DEBATE ON THE 2017 THRONE SPEECH AND REPLY
The Speaker The Speaker As we proceed now the first speaker gets an hour to speak and all Members after that will have half an hour to speak up until seven hours, and then we go to 20 minutes for each speaker after that. So whoever is leading off . . . and I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thirty -four. Hon. Walton Brown: Thirty? Thirty -four, okay. So the next area that I want to focus on is the issue involving the municipalities, a vexing issue which raises the issue of the frailties of democracy, shall we say, because we have had a rocky road when it comes …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Are there any further speakers? The Member from constituency 19, you have the floor.
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . I know you want us to talk a little bit more about this Throne Speech and response, so I wanted to take the opportunity to do so. And I just want to say to everyone that I am actually pleased to stand up today, …
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden We on our side will also do that. Mr. Speaker , we will turn around and we will make sure that, as the Opposition no w, we will do so. And I am . . . All I am suggesting is . . . and I have lamented to my …
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden I will yield, in the collabor ative manner that I am thinking about. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Walton Brown: Honourable Deputy Speaker , the Honourable Member will know that matters invol ving finance will come with the budget and this is a Throne Speech deliberation. That is ill -suited for …
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden Mr. Deputy Speaker , I would have said that. But in view of the fact that this morning we heard so many things about supplementaries and things that one would normally not talk about until budget in February, I take the position that, Hey, let’s get real about this. Okay? …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have got one minute left.
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden One minute? I worry that when I see that, you know, you have a programme and the people who least need it are taking advantage of it. So all I want to say is the fact that . . . for me, I want to be sure that the vision …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 6. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . First off, I would like to congratulate our Premier and commend the Premier and his team for such a great Throne Speech. It was stimulating, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Bite size. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, bite- sized. And it would take one bite . . . one bite and it is $4. Something is wrong with that.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is the labour cost of cutting it. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: That is what it is. I said that is . . . is it only me that finds it wrong? I cannot even go and buy a full piece of watermelon without being . . . and I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member In four years. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: In four years. And so were they smart or were they just . . . and then they blame me, they blame us, or the Government, on us for putting it up. Every year the Government was —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Borrowing. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Borrowing. Every year they were borrowing. Every year and then they were going to borrow this year. The PLP Government is going to have to borrow this year because of the OBA Go vernment. It was in the budget. And then they were going to …
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden Point of information.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, ma’am. POINT OF INFORMATION
Mrs. Jeanne J. Atherden I would just like to draw to the Honourable Member ’s attention that you are right, that is the type of thing that the Government did. We went out and we bought all of our drugs related to the HIV and those drugs, we bought them through the Global Fund …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Carry on, Member. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, no, no, no, you missed the point. Was that for financial assistance? [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, no, no, no, not all of them. My point is that . . . where did you store them? No, they went to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member, talk to the Chair. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Some did and some did not. I am just saying that I think that the Government could have done a better job in doing it, and I am sure you will admit it. I am sure the Minister will …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have got one minute. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: How much?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker One minute. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: One minute. Moving forward . . . So, again, Mr. Deputy Speaker , before I take my seat, I compliment everyone and unfortunately I cannot go through the whole Throne Speech, but as the peopl e applauded the Throne Speech at the opening of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. That is the Honourable Member from Hamilton Parish, constitue ncy 6. Any further speakers? There are no further speakers? The Honourable Member from constituency 21. Carry on.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker . Mr. Deputy Speaker , on July 18 th the people of Bermuda reposed their confidence in the Progressive Labour Party to be the Government of this coun-try that we all love, the country we call home. They reaffirmed their trust in the Progressive Labour …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mr. Speaker , as a young boy I remember those same type of thoughts as being more common in Bermuda’s white community than we would care to admit. And when I say “young boy” I am talking about in the ’60s growing up. What was astonishing about this . . …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Well, for us he is. Over this side of the aisle, and he is welcome here. He knows from me, I have never articulated it as talking about gangs and gang violence, okay? Yes, we have a national security issue to address. The fact that we must ensure that there …
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Good. 84 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly So, if we know that income inequality is pr oducing this fruit, unripened, dropping from the vine, represented by our young black males, we know it is creating a proliferation of low income households characterised by economic vulnerability, …
The Speaker The Speaker You have got one minute.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong —for our ability to begin to address these structural and systemic issues, including the unfinished business of racial equality in Bermuda. And we should not . . . we should not back off or be fearful in addressing them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Commissiong, thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from Southampton [East Central], Ms. Leah Scott. You have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you , Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , first of all, I would like to compliment all of our parliamentary colleagues who were successful —returning and new MPs. I would like to congratulate you on your appointment as the Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Ms. Leah K. Scott And Mr. Burgess on his role as the Deputy Speaker. Mr. Speaker , I am not here to pick apart the Throne Speech. I think that there are going to be enough people that do that or will have done that. I think that the Throne Speech does have some …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you for your comments, Me mber. Does any other Member wish to speak? We recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36, Mr. Michael Scott. Honourable Member , you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What an honour it is to defend the 2017 Throne …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mr. Montague Sheppard. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Yes, Mr. Montague Sheppard behind it. It was an opportunity for black bankers, as directors and shareholders, to go home to their f amilies and say, Today we advanced the initiative in our banking operations along lines of progress . But what happened? …
The Speaker The Speaker Five minutes, Member. Hon. Michael J. Scott: My, how time flies. 88 15 September 2017 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly So, Mr. Speaker, I said that the Throne Speech of 2017 represents reformation, a restatement of things we have been saying for many years and that we have …
The Speaker The Speaker You are going to hear the buzzer. You have about four seconds. Hon. Michael J. Scott: All right —four seconds? [Timer beeps ] [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker That is it. Thank you, Member, for your contribution. Does any other Member wish to contri bute to the debate this evening? Any other Member? I recognise the Member from constituency 2, the Honourable Kim Swan. Honourable Member , you have the floor.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And good evening, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening to you.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I would like to once again congratulate your good self on your role here as Speaker of this Honourable Chamber.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Continue on.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I would like to also congratulate the Progressive Labour Party on an outstanding victory at the polls. In fact, congratulate the people of Bermuda for seeing the wisdom of doing such. I want to say this, Mr. Speaker — Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —from where we stand in life—
The Speaker The Speaker Uh, uh, uh, uh. Quiet down. [Gavel]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I would consider . . . I would like to consider this my maiden speech. [Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I know some will say no, no, no, no. But I can remember my maiden speech was some 10 years ago . . . was actually the Throne Speech Reply. The S peaker: We will consider this your maiden speech on your return
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And, indeed, I consider myself born again. And as those who believe in such know that you must cast yourself of past robes and clothe yourself according to new beliefs and philos ophies and principles. So, I consider myself born again, Mr. Speaker . And for my purposes, this is …
The Speaker The Speaker You have been down in the water, eh?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I, Mr. Speaker, want to say that I myself, and also our Progressive Labour Party team, have spent four and a half years in the political wilderness. Contrary to how some would portray that, I would say from one who has toiled in the political vineyards many years myself, personally, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear! Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: —as you told that Minister that was there helping him (some advice that a former Member of this House told me to tell some people 10 years ago). Tell them to go somewhere else and help! I say that respectfully, Mr. Speaker, because …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I would encourage persons coming here today in a r ole unlike that of which I am blessed enough to be able to help a Government for the first time in my political career. All my years in Opposition . . . now able to assist and Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker You have just under five minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Oh, my time is impecc able today. So why do you not just give me another 15, Mr. Speaker ?
The Speaker The Speaker Now, now . . . you are on line and length. Continue. [Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I am guided. Mr. Speaker, in this Throne Speech I think the Honourable Premier was speaking directly to me.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Unhealthy foods and the impact that they would have on a community. More of us, Mr. Speaker, for whatever reason, can benefit from a change of mind- set when it comes to the choices of what our intake is. In a younger me (a long, long time ago), I was …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And while I make light of that, Mr. Speaker, those of us who pass on those traits down the line are o nly fuelling future generations to be candidates for diabetes and other diseases that run rampant and are prevalent in our country, Mr. Speaker . And I really feel …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I speak from exper ience, Mr. Speaker, and I speak very seriously. It is a national problem, and we have to do our part . Even if it means that persons in an economic position may say you are hurting me. But you are hurting we, too and that …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, Mr. Swan—
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —of a maiden speech.
The Speaker The Speaker —you managed your time very good. Any other Member? I see the Honourable Member Mr. Smith from constituency 31. Honourable Member , you have the floor.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Maiden speech.
The Speaker The Speaker This is his maiden speech, yes.
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Speaker, I would like to speak directly to the sport —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Microphone, microphone.
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Speaker ?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go ahead.
Mr. Ben Smith I would like to speak to sport and the impact that sport has on the country. We cannot mi nimise the impact that sport can have on a society. Most countries have embraced the idea that sport has a very important role to play in a country. Obviously, we have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member , for your comments. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Minister of Education. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and welcome. And thank you to the listening public that is tuning in to this very important Throne Speech debate. But, Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Keep it clean, keep it clean. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Do not worry, Mr. Speaker, I will bring it back.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, thank you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I am just a little upset at what I actually had to read today.
The Speaker The Speaker Stay on point. Keep it clean. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, the strategic plan that I spoke about this morning was initiated by the Board of Education. Again, I reiterate. If the former part-time OBA Education Ministers —I believe there were four in four and a half years …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member [In] 2007. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: What 2007? 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017. He cannot even get a referendum right. Well, we know that narrative. Mr. Speaker, we owe our students 100 per cent. We owe our students 100 per cent of everything that we can do to make sure …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to speak? I now recognise the Honourable Member , Mr. Cole Simons, from constituency 8. Mr. Simons, you have the floor, Honourable Member.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you very much. Thank you very, very much. Mr. Speaker, I had planned to start my presentation on a different matter, but as the Minister of Education has just spoken, I think I will just go d irectly to Education. The way he spoke, one would believe that the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Amen.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons So, what you do in your full - time, I did in my part -time pay. [Laughter ] [Desk thumping]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, let us get back to the teachers. Mr. Speaker, I am very sympathetic with the teachers in that the collective bargaining agreement has taken quite a while to consummate. Mr. Speaker, like other professions, these professions should be honoured. There should be dignity brought to this profession. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Member from constituency 8, Mr. Cole S imons, you have the floor. Continue.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I will continue because that just does not warrant a response.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Amen. [Laughter]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, at the end of the day, we are in the 21 st century and we have to basically have international teaching standards. And I believe that we need to do more to improve the standards with the input of our teachers, with mentor teachers, we need to have …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons —for teachers and admini strators.
The Speaker The Speaker Will you yield, Member? Minister, you have a poi nt of order? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order or point of clarification? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of clarification. If the Minister would be so kind as to go and read our platform it spoke to schools of excellence for teachers. So, it is something that is on our radar. The Throne Speech is …
The Speaker The Speaker All right, thank you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —that they did not accomplish at all.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Mr. Simons, please continue.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons That gets to my point. If we are talking about education, a key component of edu-cation is the teacher. And the teacher should have as much prominence and priority as the students and the plans. And, so whatever you do in the first year — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons —somewhere in there should be a plan for the development and support of our teachers. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order —
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Simons, hold on. Mr. Simons, are you going to yield? Minister, your point of order? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order is the speaker is imputing improper motive. That Member is imputing improper motive. If the Member would remember the strategic plan, if he was actually at …
The Speaker The Speaker Make your point. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —the strategic plan speaks exactly to what he is talking about within the first year of implementation.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, continue.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, thank you. [Laughter]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you very much. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons But as he said, if this was important for education, teachers should be having more prominence in the first year of the PLP Gover nment. If you believe that this should be part of the strategic plan, you can say in your Throne Speech, Teachers, we have not forgotten you, …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Point of order.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons So, he can talk about his manifesto all he wants. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on, hold on. Member, Mr. Simons, are you going to yield? Okay, your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Once again, that Member is imputing improper motive. Again, if he could read, and if he did understand anything he would see …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, Mi nister, when you make your point, just stay on to the point. You do not need the side little comments in this debate.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, this—
The Speaker The Speaker Excuse me, take your seat, Minister. Madam Opposition Leader, do you have a comment you would like to make to me? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I beg your pardon?
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have a comment you would like to make to me as a Speaker? Hon. Pa tricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I was speaking to myself.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, well, if you speak to yourself, say it so the rest of us do not hear it, please. Thank you. I did ask the Minister when he was on his feet to stick to his point. Do not make side comment s that are not necessary to make his …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mr. Speaker, as the Minister has just indicated, the strategic plan is not f inished. The strategic plan is still developing. So, how can one say this is what we are going to provide the teachers with in the strategic plan when it is currently being drafted? It has not …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons —nothing has been presen ted to demonstrate that the teachers have been a ddressed at this point during the Throne Speech debate. It has been silent and we will assume nothing, and that is why I am presenting this issue the way I am presenting it. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. N. H. C ole Simons Mr. Speaker, the same thing applies to our principals. We want to support and we encourage the Government to support our principals. We want to encourage them to embed service standards throughout their schools and the departments. We want perf ormance goals, and we want to ensure that those schools …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons No, I am not —
The Speaker The Speaker The Member has chosen not to yield this time. Let him continue his point.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Because I am explaining what happened. We had an agreement in principle with Bluewave, and the Government and I had charged the Ministry of Education to draft up a contract so that it could be final. When I left, that contract had not been completed. And so, yes, I agree …
The Speaker The Speaker We will take your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Again, the Member speaking is imputing improper motive. There is no agre ement in place. There was nothing signed.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, Minister — [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, Minister, Minister, I think the former Minister was trying to give an explanation. He did agree that there is not a signed contract in place. He is giving his explanation as to where it was when he left. I was trying to let him finish so that we can …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons As I said, in business, before you enter a contract officially you have to have an agreement on something, and an agreement in princ iple on what will be covered in the contract. And, so, as I said — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order. There is no …
The Speaker The Speaker I have not recognised . . . I have not recognised your point of order, Minister. So please do not continue. I am trying to let the [Member] get through this so that I can get an understanding b ecause I know you have concern. If he can explain it …
The Speaker The Speaker That is all. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —he did say . . .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Now, let me m ove on to a nother point. So, I am not going to waste more time trying to repeat myself because it is taking up my time. The other issue that the Minister just raised is that there was no Internet policy or Wi -Fi policy in …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons No, you have had your time. I am continuing, because I do not want to run out of time. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Not right now, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, if you are not speaking to the Chair, you have to keep your comments to yourself please. Thank you.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you very much. Now, I would like to just briefly go through some of the comments in the Throne Speech that are not related to my Ministry that I thought I would comment on. On page 3, you spoke to the “Government will increase Bermuda’s outreach around the globe …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member . Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak? I recognise the Honourable Member from Warwick [South Central], Mr. Tyrrell. Mr. Tyrrell, you have the floor. Mr. Tyrrell, you are the 12 th speaker, so we are one- third through the Members today on this debate.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Well, better to be 12th than last, I guess. Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, let me firstly congratulate you on your ascendency to the seat. I wish you well and I am going to make a promise to you that you will not have any problem with me. …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell You will never have to throw me out. Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker I will hold you to that. [Laughter]
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, let me start my presentation, if you will allow me to read it, with a quote from Mahatma Gandhi. “The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vul-nerable members.” I may have to say that again as I go through my …
The Speaker The Speaker You say St. George’s is the one that’s got a two- to-one this year?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, do not start me. I just told you, I promise that you will not be able to throw me out, so do not start me. You know I am a loyal St. George’s supporter. But anyway, let me move on, Mr. Speaker . Thanks for that, thanks for …
The Speaker The Speaker Contin ue on, Member. Continue on. I did not take you off your trail when I mentioned that cricket analogy, did I?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell You made me laugh. Mr. Speaker, as I started to say, I congratulate my Leader, and obviously his speech writers, for putting together this speech from the Throne. And I certainly say it is a vision for the future. The people gave us a mandate on the 18 th of …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you. On page seven it refers . . . I will read if you do not mind, again, “To ensure that workers can live in dignity and are not working simply to remain in poverty, . . .” That is a very, very strong statement, Mr. Speaker. And I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The working poor.
Mr. Nevi lle S. Tyrrell —the working poor. (Thank you for that.) I think my last point that I want to make in terms of the loan guarantees are to clubs. Again, something I was very passionate about having been a president of the Bermuda Football Association [BFA] for a number of years some time …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Tyrrell. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 20, the Ho nourable Member, Susan Jackson. Honourable Member, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to hit straight to the punch for me. I am most passionate about the vulnerable in Berm uda. And as you may or may not be aware, there has been a team of people which has be en working very hard to make …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to speak? I recognise the Minister for Tourism, the Honourable Jamahl Simmons. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good evening. Good evening, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, the theme that this Government ran on in opposition …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, the Minister for Economic Development and Tourism from constituen-cy 33. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 22.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would like to start . . . I do not usually do this, but I would like to start by commending the Opposition Leader for a Reply to the Throne Speech which I thought was very solid. And that may sound …
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Well, you look at the stats. People are saying it is not so. But if you look at the stats there was an increase— [Inaudible interjections]
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons —and I am talking about overall jobs, not just Bermuda jobs. Certainly the loss of Bermuda jobs, or Bermudians holding jobs, go ing into unemployment, abated substantially. I think it is fair to say that the One Bermuda Alliance Government took a very balanced approach to fixing the economy, first …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Eight minutes.
Hon. Dr. E. Grant Gibbons Eight minutes. Thank you. Now, on page 8 of the Throne Speech, there was another interesting proposal and that was “a R equest for Information to establish a Technology Hub at Southside.” An incubator of sorts, if I understand it. The idea was to transform Southside into a technol ogy-based …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, the Honourable Shadow Minister of Economic Development, from constituency 22. Any further speakers? We recognise the Member from constituency 29, the Minister for Financial Assistance [sic] and Sports. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Minister of Social Development and Sports. Mr. Deputy Speaker, there …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ever. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Deputy Speaker, oh, is it shameful. You know, Mr. Deputy Speaker, there was a time when if a Throne Speech or a Throne Speech Reply had contained some of the things in this Throne Speech Reply by the Opposition Leader, Mrs. Pat …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. The plans for the Desarrollos development are now as they were then, and there has never been any indication that they would take the beach away. They have …
Mrs. Renee Ming Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, ma’am.
Mrs. Re nee Ming I just want to say that —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Let me recognise you.
Mrs. Renee Ming —the Act of 2015—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Hang on. Hang on. The point of order has been put to us by the Honourable Member from constituency 1. POINT OF ORDER
Mrs. Renee Ming Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I just want to say that the St. George’s Resort Act of 2015 actually says that we will have reasonable access, reasonable access. [Inaudible interjections]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Carry on, Minister. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And you know what, Mr. Deputy Speaker? Sometimes, reasonable access might be via a hel icopter, too. So, Mr. Deputy Speaker, let us be clear. One thing we know is that beach will [be accessible] now, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thirteen minutes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Mr. Deputy Speaker, on page 15, at the top of the page, another highlight by the Opposition Leader, which she says they “dramatically increased visitor numbers and spending .” Really. I tell you what. I tell you what, Mr. D …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Deputy Speaker, with regard to our clubs, because there may be a little mi sconception out there. They may be, Oh, where are you guys going to get the money from already? A lready had questions from the media: Where are you …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, the Honourable Minister of Social Development and Sports, from con-stituency 29. Bye- bye. [Laughter and desk thumping] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you very much.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The Chair recognises the De puty Premier. . .
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members T urn on your microphone. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I made a promise to the Whip I will be brief. And perhaps I will have another opportunity in future sessions to be more descriptive and colourful and articulate on my presentations. But I wish to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Mr. Deputy Premier, Minister of Transport and Regulatory Affairs, from constituency 15. And thank you again for being brief. Any further speakers? We call on the Premier, who will be the final speaker in this debate. Hon. E. David Burt: Good evening, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And, Mr. Deputy …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member There are more. There are more. Hon. E. David Burt: I am just saying there are a whole lot of people who would like to be sitting at that table. But most of the people in this country, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, are taking the crumbs. And our job is to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Honourable Member is imputing improper motive. Nobody e ngaged in fraud. The Honourable Member needs to withdraw that comment.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Premier, carry on. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Well, let us put it this way, seeing that the O pposition Leader, I guess, is an accountant. So, if you tell somebody that you are going to give them $300,000, but you …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, sir! Yes.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Falsehoods. Hon. E. David Burt: That is what was disgusting. And it is so sad that they have not learned the lessons from the election campaign. Now, they sat there throwing mud, throwing mud, making up stories, throwing mud, sending out their henchmen, throwing mud, doing whatever they could possibly …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is right! Hon. E. David Burt: We remember all of it. We saw it all. [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, yes! Oh, and the Opposition Leader looks at me in shock and surprise about pe ople are recording me secretly. Well, guess what the secret recording …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Not an honourable man. Hon. E. David Burt: Maybe he kept you in the dark, Madam Opposition Leader. Maybe you have not realised how it works over there in the One Bermuda All iance. And even though you might sit in the seat, you may not really be in charge.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member They do keep some people out of the real picture. We know that. Hon. E. David Burt: But that is what happened. You would think that they would learn. But they have not learned. And then at the end of the Opposition Leader’s speech, she has the absolute nerve to …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Wow. Oh, my goodness. Hon. E. David Burt: Now, there will be some, Mr. Deputy Speaker, who w ould question the state of someone who could engage in pettiness for a full speech and then, at the end of the speech, say, I hope that pettiness takes a back seat. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Wow! Hon. E. David Burt: It is below and beneath the dignity of this House!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And the office of Opposition Lea der. [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] Hon. E. David Burt: And when asked about it earlier, she could not even bring up anything to confirm this. But here is the thing, Mr. Speaker, I can tell you. There was no …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, let’s give it a shot. Hon. E. David Burt: Talking about the Government’s plan to invest pension plan money i n start -ups. And then they have the audacity to question the credentials of the new Chairman of the Public Funds Investment Committee! Well, it just so happens that …
The Speaker The Speaker Reminding the Members to have those technical items turned off. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. E. David Burt: I know, right? [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, you can continue. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. I was getting distracted. We will, as I said, the future . . . we will have an Economic Diversification Unit to diversify this economy, which we have been speaking about for so long, but actions have not …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. That brings it to a close, the item that we have been discussing, item 1, the Reply to the Throne Speech. The other items, Orders 2 through 7, are carried over. Correct, Mr. Premier, carried over? ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER SESSIONAL SELECT COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker Before I call on you, Mr. Premier, there was one item that I forgot to do this morning that I would like to do at this moment. When I named the Standing and Sessional Committees, I forgot to name the Panel of Chairs . And the Deputy Speaker heads up …
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now adjourn until September 22 nd.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. No Members wish to speak to that? The House now stands adjourned until next week Friday at 10:00 am. [Gavel] [At 10:07 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 22 September 2017.]
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