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November 14, 2016

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Nov 14, 2016
Session 2016/2017
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531 speeches from 31 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we have confirmation of the Minutes of November the 7th, 2014. All Members should have received the Minutes. If there are no objections, the Minutes will be confirmed. I hear no objections. The Minutes are confirmed. [ Minutes of 7 November 2014 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING PORT ROYAL GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENTS CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT —AUDITOR GENERAL’S SPECIAL REPORT
The Speaker The Speaker I have one announcement to make, and that is that I have received today a Special Report on the Port Royal Golf Course Improvements Capital Development Project, which was presented to me by the Auditor General and will be distributed to Members of the House. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are no messages from the Senate. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Premier, M. H. Dunkley. You have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. POLICE COMPLAINTS AUTHORITY REPORT TREATMENT OF OFFENDERS BOARD REPORT Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of this Honourable House of Assembly the following reports: the Report of the Police Complaints Authority and the Report of the Treatment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Any objections to that report? There are none. The Chair will recognise again the Honourable Premier, the Honourable M. H. Dunkley, for the Treatment of Offenders? [ Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker I am sorry. Members, both reports were done at that time, the Report of the Police Complaints Authority and the Report of the Treatment of Offenders Board. The Chair will recognise the Junior Minister, Mr. S. D. Richards. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Do them separately, please. You have the Charities Regulations. CHARITIES REGULATIONS 2014 Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: All right. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Charities Regulations 2014, made by the Minister of Home Affairs under …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Any objections to that? The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minister, Dr. Grant Gibbons. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. GOVERNMENT FEES AMENDMENT (NO. 5) REGULATIONS 2014 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: On behalf of the Mi nister of Finance and with the Governor’s recommendation, and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Are there any objections to that? There are none. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no petitions. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minister for Public Works. Minister Gordon - Pamplin, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. GRAN D ATLANTIC UPDATE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to update the Honourable House on the situation concerning the Grand Atlantic Hotel deve lopment. Following the announcement earlier this year that Caribbean- based hospitality, tourism and leisure consultancy firm, MacLellan & Associates, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker We move now to Question Period. Bermuda House of Assembly The first questions are to the Honourable Premier, M. H. Dunkley, from MP D. V. Burgess. So the Chair will recognise MP D. V. Burgess. QUESTION 1: TOTAL NUMBER OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES Ho n. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott She thought I was talking about just that one person.
The Speaker The Speaker I see. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I was actually talking about residents in the greater area, because they are very concerned about what happens with Grand Atlantic and how it affects them. But my supplementary is that if that remains true, that she is committed to keeping the residents updated, why has the Minister not hosted …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the period under Memorandum of Understanding has been a period of exclusivity. And as a result, there is information that is still pr oprietary. But as soon as we have information that is able to be shared, we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Scott?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Yes. With that answer, would the Minister, in the interest of sharing that she cares about the residents of constituency 24, set a date just to listen to their concerns in relation to Grand Atlantic?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister? Minister? [Inaudible conversation] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I am just trying to get clarification.
The Speaker The Speaker This is the second supplementary. Yes. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I would be happy to work with the representative of the area to find a date, because I think that that would be the most ap-propriate thing to do. I would be more than happy to do so.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Lawrence Scott. QUESTION 2: GRAND ATLANTIC UPDATE
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My next question is, In regards to the family or residents that were living in Grand Atlantic that have now been relocated, could the Minister explain whether it was by compulsory acquisition or a mut ually agreed- upon proposition?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: [It was a] m utually agreed- upon proposition.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. MP Scott, you have a supplementary?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott No. No more supplementals.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. MP Burt, you had a supplementary?
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, if I may, a question, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. E. David Burt Can the Honourable Minister please advise this Honourable House the loss that the Governm ent expects to take on the transfer with the Grand Atlantic project?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, carry on. Minister? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The loss on the property? I do not have the exact number, and I will get it and endeavour to bring it to the Honourable House.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. All right. MP Scott, are you done?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I am done, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. All right. That brings the Question Period to an end. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker We now will move to congratulatory and obituary speeches. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Mi nister of Tourism, Minister Crockwell. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Yes, thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like for the Honourable House to send a letter of condolence to the family …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Chair will recognise now the Honourable Whip of the Opposition, M P Lovitta Foggo. You have the floor.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to all. Mr. Speaker, I would like to express cond olences for a few people. To the Baker family, for the [loss of the] young fireman who did lose his life in an untimely manner. I would like to associate everyone on this …
The Speaker The Speaker Come on. Let us get it on with.
The Speaker The Speaker Do for yourself.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo I thought y ou could understand, just coming back.
The Speaker The Speaker Absolutely, absolutely.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes. So condolences for the Pickering family in St. George’s. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. The Chair w ill now recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s, MP Nandi Outerbridge. You have the floor.
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge And thank you. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the entire House to join me in sending condolences to the Ho nourable Member from constituency 1, MP Bascome, on the passing of his wife, Rochelle Bascome. [Desk thumping]
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge Mr. Speaker, I have admired my friend’s strength throughout [the ordeal of] the passing of his wife. I know how much Rochelle meant to him. And a few of us, many of us , actually, attended her funeral service. Rochelle was loved not only by the people in St. George’s, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you. The Chair will recognise now MP Walter R oban.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to start by passi ng on condolences and ask that we send them to the family of Mr. Eugene Vickers. And perhaps the whole House might want to be associated with that. Mr. Vickers (and I s ay this unapologetically) was a good friend …
The Speaker The Speaker First outsider to play for Somerset in Cup Match.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Yes. Well, as was mentioned at his funeral, Mr. Speaker, he was loved by many, particularly the l adies, all over the Island. And he liked to remind people Bermuda House of Assembly of that, that he was loved all over the Island, not just in Somerset, but also in …
Mr. Walter H. Roban Again, it is another ge ntleman whom I think that the whole House might want to have themselves associated with. Those of us who have close connections with North Hamilton know of the Black family. But Mr. Black was another pioneer. A man of humble begi nnings, another constituen t …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Warwick. MP Mark Pettingill, you have the floor, the learned Member from Warwick West.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to pay tribute to my very dear, close friend, Dr. Neil Burnie, who died tragically on Tuesday in a diving accident at Horseshoe Bay. I would expect the whole House is going to join in with that. This was an iconic Bermudian figure. …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill And I laughed, and I walked out the door with him. At that point , I had known Neil Burnie as long as it has taken to tell this story. That is the type of i mpact he had on people. He just touched you immediately, warmed your heart immediately, …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Are there any other Honourable Members who would care to speak? Bermuda House of Assembly 14 14 November 2014 Official Hansard Report The Chair recognises the Honourable Minister for Public Works. Minister Gordon- Pamplin, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The Chair now recognises the Honourable Member from Sandys North, constituency 36, the learned Member, MP Michael Scott. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Mr. Speaker, I thank you. Mr. Speaker, following on from the last offer of congratulations by the Minister of Public Works , to the vacancy …
Mr. Juan Wolffe Sir, under the Progressive Labour Party, we started the drug treatment court. And Mr. Wolffe has presided and led that drug treatment court, and led through it the numbers of clients. And it has always been so enlightening and hear t-warming to see how he presides over and leads transformation …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourab le Member from Warwick. MP Jeff Sousa, you have the floor.
Mr. Jeff Sousa Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Jeff Sousa And good morning to those in the listening audience. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to ask this Honourable House to send condolences to the family of Jacqueline Brewer, known to many as “Jackie. ” She was the wife of the late William “Bill” Brewer, and of course leaves behind three …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Pembroke, MP Michael Weeks. MP Weeks, you have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Good morning, Mr. Speaker and colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Mr. Sp eaker, I first would like to be associated with the condolences being sent to Mr. Eugene Vickers. Mr. Speaker, many years ago, Mr. Vickers and I worked together in residential care. I was in residential care, and he was an avid comm unity worker. And he was very …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Pardon? Remembrance Day. I am sorry, Mr. Speaker, I said Memorial Day. But it is Remembrance Day. Mr. Speaker, in spite of what happened after the game, I would be remiss if I did not get up, and I want to congratulate both teams for a great game. I Bermuda …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Dandy Town and S omerset [Trojans] played an excellent game. And, Mr. Speaker, hats off to them. Dandy Town won the game 3-0, so I would like to send congratulations to the coach of Dandy Town and all the players. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will now re cognise the Honourable Member from Hamilton Parish—
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser St. George’s South.
The Speaker The Speaker It is?
The Speaker The Speaker It is where I live. I always get mixed up. It is Hamilton Parish, but it is St. George’s South, right? I now recognise the Deputy Speaker, MP Holshouser. You have the floor.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and once again, good morning. I stand to my feet this morning to acknow ledge and remember a gentleman who had his heart and his life in the east end of the Island, and gave his life to tourism. He slipped his moorings in September, and …
The Speaker The Speaker Associate. You should be associate d with. One Member spoke, Minister Crockwell.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Oh, did he? I am sorry. I did not hear with all the noise from the fans. But I would like to be associated.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, just associate yourself.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member, MP Walton Brown. You have the floor.
Mr. Walton Brown Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Good morning to you.
Mr. Walton Brown Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the comments by the Honourable Tourism Minister, Mr. Crockwell, regarding Mr. Dillas. Mr. Dillas actually hired me in the mid- 1970s to work at the Bermudiana Hotel. I was a very young person then. He was training young people in hospitality. …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair now recognises the Honourable Junior Minister Richards. You have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this past Sunday, November 9 th, I had the pleasure of attending a celebration of t he cup service at Marsden First …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency number 5. MP D. V. Bur-gess, you have the floor. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to send congratul ations to the Eastern Counties Cup Champion. The cup …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minister for Education and Economic Development. Minister, Dr. Grant Gibbons, you have the floor. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I also rise on a sad note this morning to ask that condolences …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Sandys, MP Dennis Lister. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my colleague who sits in front over here, the Honourable Derrick Burgess, just rose me to my feet when he made reference to …
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, that was a good year. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Well, I always thought that year was the best year, but I think this year has outdone that year, Mr. Speaker. And I would like to make sure that this House sends the proper recognition to the Somerset Cricket Club …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise now the Honourable Member from Smith’s, the Whip of the Government, MP Cole Simons. You have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to send co ndolences to the family of Frederick 'Boogie' Gordon . He was a well -known hotelier and a first -class chef. So I would like to send my condolences to the Gordon family and his five children. While …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Hamilton Parish, constituency number 6, MP Wayne Furbert. You have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would definitely like to be associated with the remarks and the condolences to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Pembroke, MP Susan Jackson. You have the floor.
Mrs. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mrs. Susan E. Jackson I would just like to send congratulations to Mr. Melvyn Bassett for organising the prayer breakfast this morning for Members.
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on.
Mrs. Susan E. Jackson He did a good job. I thank Pastor Gary Simons for his words of inspiration. And I would like to thank the Speaker for everything that he has done to make sure that the prayer breakfast r emains a tradition and brings colleagues together in good feelings and camaraderie. Thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Sandys, the learned Member MP Kim Wilson. You have the floor.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just would like this House to send a number of congratulatory remarks with respect to some events that have happened in recent times. First and foremost, if this House could send congratulatory remarks to Yushae Simmons, who hails from Somerset and is a resident of …
The Speaker The Speaker Just very quickly.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson How much time? Three? Okay. Real quickly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for your indu lgence. If we can also send congratulations to the organisers of Project Pink. Ultimate Imaging, who r ecently held their seventh annual public event acknowledging persons and survivors of breast cancer, it was held last evening. …
The Speaker The Speaker All right, Honourable Member. Honourable Member. Yes. You have gone over.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Okay. Thank you for your indu lgence.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Yes, the Chair will recognise now the Honourable Member from Devonshire. MP Glen Smith, you have th e floor.
Mr. Glen Smith Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to send condolences to the family of Mr. Winston “Bobby” Jones. As Bermuda had fought and battled the hurricane the night before of a cat 3, the next morning, unfortunately, Mr. Jones was in a road fatality accident as he was taking his …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? Yes, the Chair will recognise, from Southam pton, the Hon ourable Member Zane De Silva. MP De Silva, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to …
The Speaker The Speaker Miss Bermuda. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, not only Miss Bermuda, Miss World.
The Speaker The Speaker Miss World. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. So he paraded her around in his well -known car, “The Thing”. You will remember that, I am sure, Mr. Speaker, being from the west. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be assoc iated with the condolences for Neil Burnie. …
The Speaker The Speaker All right, Honourable Member. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, the staff at Port Royal for the ir years of support for the Grand Slam, as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member from Pembroke, MP Rolfe Commissiong. You have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to start off by associating my remarks with those of the Member for St. George’s West, who spoke about one of Bermuda’s great women, who epitomised what i t was to be a true Bermudian woman. And that is none other than …
The Speaker The Speaker I think he did, yes.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you. Also, Mr. Cheesey Hughes, I would like to associate my remarks with those that were expressed earlier, another icon of the Bermudian sporting communit y. He always had kind and supportive words for me, and he made his mark in Bermuda’s sporting hi story. And he shall not …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Are there any other Honourable Members who would care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Pr emier. M. H. Dunkley, you hav e the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to take this opportunity just to be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Premier. As usual, when we return, there are many . . . There is only one opportunity to do many obits and congratulations. And, Members, I think you have done well in recognising several of those who have passed and made contributions, as well as those who …
The Speaker The Speaker I did get a note from the Honourable Member Glenn Blakeney, to inform me that he would not be here today. He is out. HOUSE VISITORS
The Speaker The Speaker I would like to recognise some Members in the House. We have Senators Woolridge, Baron and Ball . Then we have a former Member of Parliament, former MP Simmons, here with us today. [Pause] MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are no matters of privilege. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker No personal explanations. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker No notices of motions. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no Government Bills. We have one Oppositi on Bill, and I recognise the Honourable Member, MP Walton Brown. BILL FIRST READING COMMISSIONS OF INQUIRY AMENDMENT ACT 2014
Mr. Walton Brown Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move for leave to introduce the following Bill for its First Reading: the Commissions of Inquiry Amendment Act 2014. I ask that it now be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meet-ing.
The Speaker The Speaker It has been moved by the Honourable Member. Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. That matter w ill be placed on the Order Paper. There are no private Bills, no notice of m otions. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker We move now to the Orders of the Day. And the Chair will recognise first the Honourable Premier, Premier Dunkley. MESSAGE TO HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: May it please Your Excellency: We the Members of the House of Assembly of Bermuda thank Your Excellency for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Carry on. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I realise I have the opportunity at the end of this debate, probably sometime after mi dnight tonight, to say a few comment s. But I would like to just take this opportunity to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Premier. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Leader of the Opposition, the Honourable M. A. R. Bean. Leader of the Opposition, you have the floor. Yes. [Pause] Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, good morning. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: And good morning to honourable colleagues, and good morning to the people of Bermuda. THRONE SPEECH REPLY Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Mr. Speaker, it is my honour and privilege, to stand to provide the initial Reply to the Throne Speech …
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Honourable Member. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The good thing, Mr. Speaker, is that this Reply is not directed to the One Bermuda Alliance. This Reply is directed to the people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, Proverbs 29:18 teaches us, “Where there is no vision …
Speaker The Speaker I t is not the rich who will suffer from i ncreas ed national debt and the spectre of default; rather, it is the ordinary citizen and resident who will bear the brunt of the negative effects of such a sc enario. Mr. Speaker, it is also important to recognis …
The Speaker The Speaker We will continue on until you finish. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr . Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Mr. Speaker, with respect to the public holiday known as Bermuda Day and cel ebrated on May 24th of each year, combined with the history surrounding its development, there is, of necessity, the need to ch ange with the times. The PLP believes that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much, Honourable Leader of the Opposition. We have now reached . . . It is almost 12:40. So I am going to ask that —Honourable Premier? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I move that we adjourn for lunch.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We will adjourn for lunch until 2:10. Proceedings suspended at 12:42 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:14 pm [Hon. K. H. Ra ndolph Horton, Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair recognises the Honourable Learned Member from Warwick MP Mark Pettingill. You have the floor. DEBATE ON THE THRONE SPEECH AND REPLY
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Mr. Speaker , thank you. I regard it, Mr. Speaker , as a privilege an honour and a pleasure to be able to make a reply — the lead reply —in relation to the Opposition’s Reply Speech to the Throne Speech. The Opposition, Mr. Speaker , started its speech with …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member How do you know? You were not here.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill One stays in the precincts and listens to what is being said, Mr. Speaker , so I know what was said and I read it. I would start the speech from Shakespeare’s on apt to do and say, Mr. Speaker , “There is a tide in the affairs of men, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Like what? Let us hear one.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill And here we go. I mean how long have we heard bandied about the blue economy? How long have we heard that bandied about, Mr. Speaker ? How long have we heard bandied about a number of ideas that should have happened? How long ago did we hear something bandied …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill I am hearing, Yes, yes. But that idea went back 12 years. Why did not the prev ious Government do that? How many years ago, Mr. Speaker ?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Two years.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Two years ago? That is the first that Blue Economy came up? We have been hearing that forever and a day. Why didn’t they get somebody to partner with and do it then? And here is the bigger question: Would an ybody have been prepared to partner with them an …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Right. Exactly. I mean it might take away asthma, I do not know. I am not going to try it on my kids. It might, but . . . But Mr. Speaker , the point is this —the idea was researched. The topic was looked into. The benefits were examined …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill And feeling welcome doing it.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise . . . Honourable Member, yes? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, Mr. Speaker , the Member should be aware that we have done many conferences over the years.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: And not to say we did not do that one; but we have done many conferences over the years.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, thank you, Honourable Member. Carry on please.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill I am obliged to my friend for the water break. The fact of the matter is this, Mr. Speaker , . . . and let us just be honest today because it is the facts that talk. Ask yourself this question, Bermudians, O pposition: Have you seen an increase in …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of Order, Mr. Speaker . Bermuda House of Assembly 38 14 November 2014 Official Hansard Report
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Got out of control on their watch.
Mr. E. David Burt Point of Order, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Just sit. Yes, Honourable Member. The Chair recognises — POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. E. David Burt The Honourable Member is clearly misleading the House and attempting to rewrite hi story. The Progressive Labour Party never said there was an issue . . . nothing that the Government can do about crime. The issue was with the control of the Bermuda Police Service, and that Honourable Member …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill I do know that, Mr. Speaker , because I was here when it was repeated on a regular basis and the Honourable Member, Mr. Burt, was not here. I heard that said regularly up in this House, as did my colleagues, about every time there was an i ssue raised …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of Order, Mr. Speaker .
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill —and they really could not do—
Mr. E. David Burt Point of Order, Mr. Speaker .
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill —they really could not do what they would like to do because—
Mr. E. David Burt Point of Order, Mr. Speaker .
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill —of all these problems.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. E. David Burt Once again, Mr. Speaker , the Honourable Member is misleading the House. The Progressive Labour Party did not say they could not do anything about crime. That is w hy there were multiple measures that were passed to increase police powers under their watch. It was about the Bermuda Police …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill You will get your —
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill —you will get your speech. Get on your computer and look some things up. So Mr. Speaker , when I look at page 14 of the Reply with regard to “The strategy aims to:” I had to smile again because this is the OBA’s strategy. This strategy on page 14 …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Really Mark?
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill That is what was going on. It was going on all the time. So now it is more shocking, it is more shoc king. Do you know why? Because now it is less prev alent. And that is just talking facts. It is less prevalent because it is its lowest …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Do you hear that interpolation? It started before we came into power . But here is the point: It started; well guess who is getting it done. And how long did it take them to get it started? It started as a . . . like so many thing s, …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill And the answer is absolutely not, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Sixteen per cent growth in international company registrations in 2013, the highest number of new exempt companies added since 2008. We saw them continued —
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Point of Order, Mr. Speaker .
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill —continued in the first —
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, just a second.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mr. Speaker —
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Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you , thank you, Mr. Speaker . Just a quick point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker What is your Point of Order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong That the Member is mi sleading the House. He says that that would never have happened under a PLP Government . Mr. Speaker , as you would know, because you were a Minister then, I believe, we saw a signif icant rise in incorporations in the reinsurance sector post 9/11 …
The Speaker The Speaker All right, thank you.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong —resulting in a doubling of—
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, no speech.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong —Bermuda’s GDP under a Progressive Labour Party Government .
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, you have made your point.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill And we could talk about that all day, Mr. Speaker , because what happened is they implemented the UBP plan, and then changed it to their own, and then things went down after that. That is just a fact as well. So let us talk facts, and now we had …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill The America’s Cup . . . and I do not want to get ahead of myself, or wish it done. We have already taken a very pos itive step in the direction with regard to the America’s Cup because we have those initial races, which is going to be signif …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 15, Pembroke East, MP Walter Roban, the Shadow Minister of Public Safety. You have the floor.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker . May I ask, Mr. Speaker , how much time do I have for my —
The Speaker The Speaker Thirty minutes, 30 minutes you have.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , thank you for the opportunity to contribute to this particular debate on the Throne Speech which was delivered last week, and the Reply that was delivered today. I took note of the eloquence of the first speaker from the Government . He …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He had so much to fix, it is no wonder.
Mr. Walt er H. Roban Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Incidentally, Honourable Member, just so you know, you actually have 60 minutes because the first two speakers after the—
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Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I am aware of the rule—
The Speaker The Speaker It says actually the two —
Mr. Walter H. Roban —but it is not written in a way —
The Speaker The Speaker —yeah.
Mr. Walter H. Roban —that is necessarily clear. It says that I have —
Mr. Walter H. Roban —it cannot be interpreted b ecause my Leader gave the Reply.
The Speaker The Speaker Right, yeah.
Mr. Walter H. Roban That could be interpreted as where the time goes. So I do appreciate your clarific ation, Mr. Speaker . Well Mr. Speaker , last week we did hear the Speech from the Throne given by His Excellency —29 pages of words about what the Government ’s agenda is to be …
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Point of Order, Mr. Speaker . Point of Order.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member please take your seat. Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill He is imputing improper m otives and he is also misleading the people of this country. I have never been disparaging about fishing. We are talking about industrialised fishing, it is very different.
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill And I have supported fishing in this country my whole life.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you Honourable Member. Please carry on.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Mr. Speaker , I know what I have heard, and I am just making reference to it. But I am moving on. Again, it is very interesting that the Honourable Member spent 40 minutes of the 50 or so mi nutes that he spent really just disparaging our own presentation. …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member not that language . . . please withdraw that language.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Yes I will—
The Speaker The Speaker Withdraw that term.
Mr. Walter H. Roban —withdraw that word, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Please . . . please.
Mr. Walter H. Roban —or those two words, begi nning with the “p” and the “s” —but essentially making a whole lot of people in Berm uda not too happy from the very beginning. They went after our children, they went after our seniors, and they have gone after, right now, the jobs of …
Mr. Walter H. Roban —lack of openness.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, yes.
Mr. W alter H. Roban They are the Government of darkness, that is what they are. They love the dar kness. They cannot seem to do anything in the light . . . anything that is worth doing for this country in the light. Sign away our airport —everything in the dar kness of night …
The Speaker The Speaker Where are you looking at?
Mr. Walter H. Roban Page 20 at the bottom. Anyway that was in trail under the PLP. Why it was stopped, I do not know. But, again, they are creeping back these things that they had promptly shut the door on because they were not the authors of them. And they found a way …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Nothing.
Mr. Walter H. Roban That is the part of the factual book that one can look at. Now let us even look at the factual book a little bit more carefully here from a fi scal standpoint. This Government came into power in December 2012. That means that the budget that the police were …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We don’t have a Tourism Minister anymore.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Well, I believe we do have Tourism Minister, but are they still following the Plan? We have the Bermuda Tourism Authority that has a substanti al amount of money to actually impl ement, to research tourism. Today I heard something from that particular body, Mr. Speaker , which su ggested …
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Mr. Walter H. Roban The Honourable Grant Gibbons says I should use it wisely. Does the Honourable Member presume that I do not use my time wisely, Mr. Speaker ? Or perhaps I just cannot think things through, like some other people that he has often mentioned in the past . . . I …
The Speaker The Speaker You are wasting your time now.
Mr. Walter H. Roban I just want the people to know what the Honourable Member said. That is what I want to know, and that is not a waste of time. Again, very smug, very arrogant comments, Mr. Speaker . It is sad. Mr. Speaker , as the Opposition we desire to see the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member.
Mr. Walter H. Roban —the opportunity to participate in this debate. Thank you very much.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minister of Community, Culture and Sports from Wa rwick North Central constituency 27 Minister Wayne Scott. You have the floor. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker And you have 30 minutes. All speak ers from now on have 30 minutes. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: I will try to be brief, Mr. Speaker , but this is a . . . if memory serves me correctly, it was 3:00 am last year when we got out.
The Speaker The Speaker I cannot remember. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Well, my memory, Mr. Speaker , serves me pretty well and I remember a couple of years ago the recovery that we are now starting to see signs of was denied ever existed until December 18 th and all of a sudden that …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We do. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: —if we work together and actually get some things done. I am sorry. I have got the former Leader of the Opposition saying something over there. Excuse me?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He is not the former Leader of the Opposition. Hon. R. Wayne S cott: Well, the former Leader of the United Bermuda Party, which was the Opposition at the time he was the Leader, so actually that was tec hnically correct. As a matter of fact, you have the former …
Mr. Walton Brown Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker . Madam Deputy Speaker , I would like to begin my remarks with the concluding remarks of the Throne Speech. These were the personal comments by the Governor and I quote, Madam Deputy Speaker , “I would urge everyone to avoid stirring unnecessary division.” Unnecessary …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker What page were you on? I am sorry.
Mr. Walton Brown Page 4. The Deputy Speak er: Thank you.
Mr. Walton Brown Trust seems to underpin a large part of what we are meant to demonstrate in order for us to come together to address these challenges. And I will get back in more detail later to the issue of trust when we look at immigrat ion policy, Madam Deputy Speaker . …
Mr. Walton Brown How much is it? [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Walton Brown I am sorry. For whatever the amount of money is that we are paying a year, we need to know much more so what is being done. I am disappointed with the focus that we have currently on international business because we have the Business Development Agency [BDA] which has …
Mr. Walton Brown Yes, thank you. Now, Madam Deputy Speaker , there are a number of points . . . of issues addressed in the Bermuda House of Assembly 56 14 November 2014 Official Hansard Report Throne Speech. Clearly, the amount of time that you have decided to allocate to me today will …
Mr. Walton Brown And so we need to have that in place if our young people are to have a proper groun ding in their own society. So I would encourage the Government to yes consider emphasizing world history and other issues, but give some focus —real demonstrated focus —on helping our young …
The Speaker The Speaker I just want to, Honourable Member, I just want to let Honourable Members know that if some people are feeling the heat a bit and if you are feeling the heat a bit then it is quite all right if you want to take your jacket off because it is …
Mr. Walton Brown Well, y ou know, Mr. Speaker , it is interesting that you should say that because it seems to me that the heat is being felt much more so on the other side. And if you start setting this precedent they may be taking off their jackets on a regular …
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on with the speech, Honourable Member. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on with the speech. I am not here to assist you in making your delivery. [Laughter and crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on. Carry on, Honourable Member.
Mr. Walton Brown But I have to say, Mr. Speaker , there was a comment in the Throne Speech that speaks to young people and cigarette use. You know, it is frustrating to have to say this yet again, Mr. Speaker , because I have spoken with the Minister responsible on it on …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is crazy!
Mr. Walton Brown It is just not true. What I think was meant to be said is that the survey shows that st udents have started as early as 7, but not that students started at 7. There may be 2 per cent, 5 per cent, or 10 per cent who may have …
Mr. Walton Brown I said within a month, so that i ncludes within a week. So the other issues that came out saw massive discontent within the population, Mr. Speaker . But what do we have in the Throne Speech about imm igration policy? I thought I must have dozed off during the …
The Speaker The Speaker Which page?
Mr. Walton Brown Page 12, Mr. Speaker . “The Ministry of Home Affairs will oversee new opportunities for Bermudian workers when the new work permit policy comes i nto effect on 1 December, requiring all employers seeking work permits to advertise on its online jobs board.” That is it! Nothing about immigration policy; …
Mr. Walton Brown Do you want to make a point of clarification? [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Walton Brown Okay. But Mr. Speaker , the policy has now changed at a time when work is more and more difficult to get. I do not know who was complaining about the policy because normally a policy change comes about be-cause there is some lobbying going on. Who lobbied the Minister? …
The Speaker The Speaker You have two minutes.
Mr. Walton Brown No, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Two minutes.
Mr. Walton Brown Okay. Mr. Speaker , two minutes. The Government has predicated its position on the issue of trust. If w e are to work with Gover nment , and there are many of us who want to work with Government to ensure that the appropriate policies are put in place, if …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member Brown. You still had another minute left. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker You have gone. You have finished though. You cannot get up again. All right. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s South, constituency 4, the Deputy Speaker Suzann Roberts - Holshouser. You have the floor.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker , and thank you for allowing us to take off our jackets. Mr. Speaker, I am the first OBA woman to speak to the Throne Speech as well as the Reply from the Opposition. I want to basically voice my concern and the reason …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you , Honourable Deputy Speaker. The Chair will recognise . . . who wants to speak? It looks like the Honourable Member on his feet who I wi ll recognise from Pembroke East Central, constituency 16, Michael A. Weeks, Shadow Minister of Community and Cultural Affairs. You have the …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker , and good evening to the listening audience. Mr. Speaker , it has been interesting what I have heard thus far about the Throne Speech and the Throne Speech Reply. Rather than jump all over the place I will be going specifically to certain topics and …
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Honourable Member.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks I see combating crime and a sense of disenfranchisement because when I have been talking and listening to my constituents this year—this week —most of them are concerned. Now they ar e interested in what the Government has to say about the Throne Speech, interested in what the O pposition …
The Speaker The Speaker Which . . . 22 of the . . . ?
Mr. Michael A. Weeks [Page] 22 of the Throne Speech, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Okay.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks I see in the Throne Speech, Mr. Speaker , that the Government had three little se ntences on youth and sport and about restoring a sense of belonging and purpose to our young people. So let me quote some, Mr. Speaker . Socially we know that there are no quick …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Page 15. Mr. Michael A. Weeks: Page 15 of the Throne Speech. At this point in time, Mr. Speaker , we have to realise that this is not a political situation. We need to use all the resources that we have. And CARTEL is about the premier organisation now dealing …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It was.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks And, again, I ask is this just empty rhetoric or a political ploy? As a matter of fact, I could have just cut and pasted from then until now. Mr. Speaker , I would like to commend our Government —our party, the Opposition PLP —for putting the mechanisms in place …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member Weeks. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Pembroke South West, constituency 20, MP Susan Jackson. You have the floor.
Mrs. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I would like to begin my thoughts on the Throne Speech by reflecting on a quote that I have heard many times before and I have never quite understood it. And that is listening to people say, The real music is not in the notes, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. The Chair now recognises the Member from Hamilton West, constituency 6, the Honourable Wayne L. Furbert, Shadow Minister of Economic D evelopment. You have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I have been waiting patiently to reply and talk about our Reply …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What name will you be using after that? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I will be using Wayne Furbert. [Laughter] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: That is what I used in Hami lton parish all this time. That is why I beat you last time. So, Madam Deputy Speaker, I am saying …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is how you wrote the Reply. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Maybe, yeah, we have done it in our issue, too, Honourable Grant Gibbons. You know how I said it means we wrote down little things. You remember? You remember? Yes, you do. You wrote down and we just throw …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. The Chair now recognises the Member from Paget East, constituency 22, Dr. the Honourable E. Grant Gibbons, Minister of Education and Economic Development. You have the floor. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The last Honourable Member who just took his seat …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker [You have] 10 minutes and 47 seconds. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, perfect. I would like to switch over to education now, if I may, and say that there are a number of points that I would like to touch on here. Unfortunately, you cannot do education …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Three minutes. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Three minutes, okay. In three minutes, let me just also touch on this issue of the Bermuda College issue (here it is) on Bermuda House of Assembly 78 14 November 2014 Official Hansard Report page 11 of the Reply. This issue of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you very much. The Chair now recognises the Shadow Attorney General. The Honourable Michael J. Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: [Madam Deputy] Speaker, good evening and thank you. [Madam Deputy] Speaker, to the Minister, now that the front bench has begun to seek to try …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker And you are reading from . . . ? Hon. Michael J. Scott: It is—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Just a public statement? Hon. Michael J. Scot t: Public statement in the media. I think it was the Bermuda Sun of those days. “In describing the move, Mr. Greenberg said that the move was a natural progression that would provide ACE with a better strategic flexibility and a solid …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Please proceed. Hon. Michael J. Scott: “Bermuda needs a criminal justice system that is efficient, effective and fair; a sy s-tem that addresses the needs of criminal defendants, the victims of crime and the public in general. All of us have an interest in a system that acquits the innocent …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Five minutes and 20 seconds. Hon. Michael J. Scott: All right. Thank you so much. [Pause] Hon. Michael J. Scott: You know, I will end where I began. We look for opportunities within the PLP’s R eply to the Throne Speech that sets out our alternative vision as a Government …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. The Chair now recognises the Member from Devonshire North West, constituency 14. Mr. Glen C. Smith, you have the floor.
Mr. Glen Smith Thank you, and good evening, Madam Deputy [Speaker]. You know, we have heard this buzzword all afternoon of “vision,” which really intrigues me. I sit here, and I have list ened. But more importantly, at the end of the day, we should probably ask our constit uents what their vision …
Mr. Glen Smith “ Retail sales in September 2014 were 4.2 per cent higher than the $78.8 million r ecorded in Sept ember 2013. All retail sales sectors r ecorded increased sales with motor vehicles retailers recording the strongest increased sales of 19.3 per cent.” Well, to me, this is a clear indicator, …
Mr. Glen Smith Good evening, Mr. Speaker. As we all know, it takes time to build relationships, and building relationships in any market, particularly if you are working with the Asians, they take a long time, and it is about building trust. That is what this Government is doing. No, it is not …
Mr. Glen Smith Well, we could probably do that. At the end of the day, Bermuda, if we are successful at scoring the America’s Cup, it will be the Monte Carlo of the Atlantic Ocean. And that is the way it works. I was recently down in Saint -Tropez about two years ago …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Member from Warwick South East, constituency 24, MP La wrence Scott, who is the Shadow Minister for Transportation. MP Scott.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not going to take too much time talking about it, much other than the transport ation side of the Throne Speech. Actually, there was not much in the Throne Speech about transportation, so I guess I will be referring more …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott No pun intended. But we then get our own airport facility. The Government has not paid for it. It does not come out of the taxpayers’ money. The 86 jobs that are currently between civil aviation and the Department of Airport Operations, they are saved, plus the construction jobs that …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I would sign with you, and then you w ould be responsible for finding somebody to fill the project and to be able to do that project. But, Mr. Speaker, I have no control personally over who you pick. So I have to trust your discretion, Mr. Speaker. And it …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Mr. Speaker, this is troubling. Because, I mean, let me just go on and continue to read the report. “The recent media reports and a civil suit filed against the company by a former employee, also charged with corruption, indicate that the company routinely used code letters to conceal alleged …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member More troubling?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott More troubling. The report also incl udes that contracts . . . “It was untendered, secret, and guaranteed by Canadian taxpayers. And therein lies the root of the problem . . .” Mr. Speaker, that sounds very, very, very similar to something that just happened here in Bermuda. Ah! It …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott And then, Mr. Speaker, it is ironic that the same person that signed the PPP was an advocate against them not too long ago! But, Mr. Speaker, what is even . . . This is the gift that keeps on giving right now, Mr. Speaker, because what really gets me …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Honourable Minister. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Do I have to put my jacket on?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No. No. No. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker On your seat . . . on your own . . . [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. I was just in that seat for so long, I forgot my seat. Mr. Speaker, I have travelled 3,500 miles to hear a few announcements. I …
The Speaker The Speaker It is not a speech, just a point of order, Honourable Member. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The point of order is as follows: The Honourable Member said that the signing was secret. The signing took place in front of telev ision cameras. So it could not possibly have been …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: So he is dead wrong. And any kind of references —
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: —to secret signings are wrong and false.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott All right, Mr. Speaker. I will amend what I said, because the Honourable Member does have a good point (as he returns to the wrong seat again). But, Mr. Speaker, the deal was secret. The deal was secret. There was no tendering to local companies. No Bermudian company got a …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The Honourable Member is misleading the House again. He has gone way off the edges. Calling somebody a corrupt company with no proof is just not acceptable. Bermuda House of Assembly
The Speaker The Speaker Right. Thank you.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Mr. Speaker, the proof is in the— Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Based on some article in a newspaper.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, let me just say this: Honourable Member, I think that we cannot take . . . You r eally cannot take an article from a newsp aper and make that kind of —
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Okay, Mr. Speaker. I take—
The Speaker The Speaker So if you can just be easing off. Just be easing off that.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I take your lead. If there were civil —
The Speaker The Speaker Say you were concerned about the way that it was done, and it may have been allegations or whatever. But certainly you have to be careful in terms of that.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Mr. Speaker, there are civil lawsuits in the Canadian courts and documentation proving they have been taken to court and found guilty of corruption and bribery. And that is public record. I will move on, Mr. Speaker, because the thing is that the OBA plan still puts 86 Bermudian jobs …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Again, you know, I got here late. I was not here when the formal speech was made. I notice t his thing about 86 jobs being lost. That is pure rubbish!
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I think that he needs to withdraw that.
The Speaker The Speaker There are not 86 jobs lost. I accept that. Carry on.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Well, Mr. Speaker, that is the same thing they said about the Bermuda Tourism A uthority.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member! Carry on. Carry on.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Okay. No problem. [Inaudible interjections and crosstalk]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Mr. Speaker, I just really wish that this Government would have done their due diligence and not done anything to even give the hint, the optics, the possibility that there was anything corrupt or anything untoward going on in this country. Because this i s the research that I have …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott The Honourable Sylvan Richards says that I do not know the people he knows. And that might be true, Mr. Speaker. But if he knows people who understand that bribery and corruption are the way to do business, I do not want to know them. All right? Because I do …
The Speaker The Speaker You have a minute and 30 seconds.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Okay. Mr. Speaker, the way that the Honourable Minister has handled this does not pass the smell test. It does not leave a good look on Bermuda because they left a black eye on Canada’s government. And my thing is this: We have a better way to do it. There …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thanks, Honourable Member. The Chair now recognises the Honourable Member from St. George’s . . .
The Speaker The Speaker The Honourable Member from St. George’s West, constituency 2. It is just . . . You know, all this noise over here is disturbing me. [Laughter]
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge I understand, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker St. G eorge’s West, constituency 2, MP Nandi Outerbridge, you have the floor.
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we as Bermudians have shown that we know how to work together. We have shown it over numerous occasions, Mr. Speaker. We have helped each other when families were down and pe ople’s lives were lost, and funerals. We have worked together to help …
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge We need to come together as young adults and figure out what it is, and what is triggering us. You know, we have grown up with these people. These are our peers. We understand how their minds work and what some of their frustrations are. So my appeal tonight is …
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge Oh, I am sorry, sorry. Humble apologies. Mr. Speaker, the only way forward is if we work together. We cannot continue to talk and preach about working together and not set the example right here in the House of Assembly week in and week out. We cannot say respect and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you very much, Honourable Member. The Chair now recognises the Honourable Member from Southampton East, constituency (are you 29 or 30, Honourable Member?) . . . Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: [Constituency] 29.
The Speaker The Speaker [Constituency] 29. MP Zane De Silva, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S . De Silva: Thank you, thank you, Mr. Speaker. The great constituency 29 it is. Mr. Speaker, my own honourable colleague, Michael Scott, said with regard to the Throne Speech, that he was looking for some …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. Clearly stated in the platform, 2,000 jobs over the next five years —clearly stated.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you for that. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member who just took his seat can say what he had in his platform all he likes. But that platform came out long after we were told that 2,000 jobs were going to come …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, earlier, the Minister of Tourism and the Minister of Education and Economic Development, said repetitively, early on, that the Progressive Labour Party caused all the f inancial troubles we are cur rently in. Mr. Speaker, with your indulgence, I will read …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member f rom St. George’s West. [Crosstalk] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. St. George’s West. Mr. Speaker, the grocers have agreed to extend the discounts period —that is great —to Febr uary 15, the day after Valentine’s Day. That is sweet. And the OBA are hoping that …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What are you talking about? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Well, I just hope it is not with all crooked guys . Mr. Speaker. I really hope that because I think that my colleague, the Honourable Member, Mr. Lawrence, certainly articulated that very well earlier. So I hope, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Page 13? Hon. Zane J. S. De S ilva: Page 13, second- to-last paragraph, Mr. Speaker, work permit holders recei ving pedlar’s licence. Mr. Speaker, that has got to be a mistake. I cannot believe for a moment that, here we are, our people, some of them, Mr. Speaker . …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Who was it? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Ask your Premier. He will tell you who it was.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I am asking you. Hon. Zane J . S. De Silva: No, you ask your Premier who it was. Yes, yes. Okay, Mr. Speaker, I talked about copy -andpaste earlier, and I know my colleague, Shadow Mi nister of Health, Kim Wilson, will certainly have som ething to say about …
The Speaker The Speaker About a minute and 16 seconds. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A minute and 62 seconds.
The Speaker The Speaker Sixteen. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A minute and 16 seconds. Okay, Mr. Speaker, I know that the Minister of Tourism will get on his feet in a minute. And I would like him to explain to me about the drop in air arrivals, Mr. Speaker —5.5 per cent. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member De Silva. The Chair now recognises the Honourable Minister of Tourism and Transport, the Minister from constituency 31, the learned Member, MP Crockwell, you have the floor. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Yes, thank you and good evening, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening . Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, the Throne Speech of the Government was drafted with the bac kdrop predicated on what was characterised by the Governor as the actual twin storms that we recently endured in Bermuda. And you will see that theme about how we had …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yeah! [Desk thumping] Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: We are going to get a chance to debate some of the things that the PLP did—mismanagement! Have a read, Mr. Speaker! It was tabled this morning. Have a read when we see something that was supposed to cost $4 million ended up …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Whoa! [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: And, you know, it is so funny, Mr. Speaker. We heard time and time . . . We hear all sorts of allegations around here. I remember a time when a certain Leader in this Honourable Chamber said, Well, if you mention the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is not hard. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Well, the Honourable Member said it was not hard, but it did not happen. It did not happen. It did not happen, Mr. Speaker.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No. They never did anything. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: So all I am saying is, we took the baton. We took the baton. There was an an-nouncement. And now we made sure it happened. And you know what? The developers on that project have said publicly they have a project …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is misleading the House, Mr. Speaker. We never said . . . and the Honourable Member knows when he said that we did not like that announcement, Mr. Speaker. I was one that came out with …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, Honourable Member. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: I will apologise to the Honourable Member for that.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: But if you were listening tonight at the variety of speakers that got up and were throwing all sorts of dark clouds over this, you would wonder, Mr. Speaker, if they really did support it. But you know what, Mr. Speaker? Michael …
The Speaker The Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House.
The Speaker The Speaker How? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Because when he says that those Members do not care, the Honourable Mi nisters of the Government, he talked about the scholarship and the lady with the one child —
The Speaker The Speaker I think, Honourable Member, I think — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: He receiv ed that e- mail, Mr. Speaker. What he should have done was answer the e- mail! That is a caring Minister!
The Speaker The Speaker Thanks. Thanks, Honourable Member. Please take your seat. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, on page 2— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Answ er the e- mail! He does not care! [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member! Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: I will show, Mr. Speaker, where this Government shows compassion. On page 2 it says, “Economic hardship is widely felt, with Government this year setting aside an unprecedented $46.9 million in financial assistance to help people in need.” That is a caring Government. On …
The Speaker The Speaker He is quoting from a book. What is the point, Honourable Member? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The Honourable Member, he may be quoting, but it is quoted inaccurately. What he has done is . . . Listen to what I am saying. You will understand. It is …
The Speaker The Speaker Be quick, put it in there. Come on, because you are taking the Honourable Member’s time. [Crosstalk] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I am trying to be quicker, but I had so many di sruptions. The Honourable Member is quoting the—
The Speaker The Speaker If you are not quicker, you are going to have to sit down. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: But, Mr. Speaker, I do not understand. Are there any rules that tell me [how fast] I can speak?
The Speaker The Speaker You are not making sense to me. I do not hear you, Honourable Member. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I am trying to get it across, Mr. Speaker. But I have the right to speak, correct?
The Speaker The Speaker Of course you do. But let us move on. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Do not speed me up. I can take as long as I want. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: It is my time! [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, Honourable Member, yes, please. If you do not get to the point, you are going to take your seat. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I am trying to. I am trying to. Right? But I have the right to speak. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: You are using …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member — Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: What I am saying to you is this, to the Honourable Member, is this: T he money that was given to the Tourism Authority was “X” amount of dollars, but excludes the amount that b elongs to the other d epartment, which you …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Carry on, Honourable Member. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: In 2007/08, a $40.3 mi llion was attributed, Head 33, to Tourism Expenses. Very simple. Tourism Expenses, not Headquarters, nothing else —Tourism Expenses. In 2010/11, Head 33 (look at your Budget Book), Tourism E xpenses, $38.1 million. This …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of order, Mr. Speaker. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. E. David Burt The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. The storms were in the fourth quarter, not in the third.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Ooh! Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, the storms have had an impact on arrivals to Bermuda, and ind ividuals who were planning to come here did not come because of the impending storms. But, Mr. Speaker, this happens all t he time with tourism. One thing about tourism, little …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Where is it? Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: I gave it to you earlier. Look at Hansard.
The Speaker The Speaker You have got a minute and 20 seconds. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, we are on the right track. We are working hard, and we are wor king hard in difficult times, Mr. Speaker —probably the most difficult times that this country has ever exper ienced in our history …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from Hamilton Parish, constituency 5. MP D. V. Burgess, you have the floor. Hon. Derrick V. Burge ss, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, the Throne Speech (and it has been said already) was …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No special report. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: No special audit r eport! And if you look at the work that was done up there, I guess it is first -class work. But it was a lot of money for a little bit of work. But you will not get …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ah, come on. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: They are saying, Come on! I know what I am talking about; I was there. But now, he has always looked good to me, regardless of whom he was associated with. He can be friendly with my cousin Crockwell. I am okay …
The Speaker The Speaker You have got a minute and 49 seconds. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Okay. Just one other thing, Mr. Speaker. I would just suggest to the Minister of Planning, particularly with the roofs that were damaged in the hurricane, that if they can consider for all new d eBermuda House …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member, Junior Minister of Home Affairs from Hami lton South, constituency 7. The Honourable Sylvan Richards, you have the floor. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, before I get into my words and thoughts …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Member from Sandys South Central, constituency 34. Ms. Kim N. Wilson, learned Member, Shadow Minister of Health, you have the floor.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, I am going to try to roll this back a little bit and speak principally to what I thought was the purpose of our being here today, which was the Reply to the Throne Speech, which was read earlier this morning. And …
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Madam Deputy Speaker, as I canvassed through the streets of Sandys South Ce ntral, many of my constituents are just a step away from losing their own health insurance. Many of my constituents and other Bermudians throughout the Island do not even have health insurance because they cannot afford it. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. The Chair now recognises the Honourable Member from constituency 19, Pembroke West, the Minister of Health and Environment. The Honourable Jeanne J. Atherden, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I want to start off by just reminding ourselves that our …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. The Chair now recognises the representative from St. David’s, constituency 3, the Opposition Whip and Shadow Minister of Education. Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, you have the floor.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I rise this evening to make comment partic ularly to the realm of education with respect to our R eply. Let me say first that Malcolm X said, “Education is the passport to the futur e, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. The Chair now recognises the Member from Southampton East Central, constituency 30, the Honourable Leah K. Scott, Junior Minister for Education. You have the floor.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and good evening. The hour is late, so I am not going to say a whole lot.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You have 30 minutes.
Ms. Leah K. Scott I have 30 minutes? Okay. First of all, if you will allow me, I would like to just give a brief Bible study, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Opposition Leader opened up the Throne Speech [Reply] today with the Proverb, “[Where there is no] vision, the people perish” —full stop. And …
Ms. Leah K. Scott This Government has been crit icised for being business -centric and not people- or social -centric. Mr. Speaker, this Government cares about this country and its people. Our focus is on the well-being and the prosperity of every Bermudian. The Minister of . . . What’s his name? [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Community, Culture and Sports, I think you are talking about.
Ms. Leah K. Scott Yes, [the Minister of] Community, Culture and Sports has set aside $46.9 million this year for financial assistance. We are addressing d omestic violence. But our priority has to be, Mr. Speaker, to refill the public purse. If the walls of the house are crumbling, you do not apply paint. …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Bermuda House of Assembly 120 14 November 2014 Official Hansard Report The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Sandys North Central, constituency 35. MP Dennis Lister, the Shadow Minister of Public Works, you have the floor. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member care to speak? [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Well. I was ready to go home. Not yet? The next person better speak up and stand up in time. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Minister for Public Works, the Honourable Patricia Gordon- Pamplin. She now has the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just want to very briefly reflect on a comment made by the last speaker who just took his …
Mr. Wal ton Brown Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Honourable Member. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Walton Brown The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. On each and every occasion where a tax concessi on has been proposed by Government f or business, this side of the House has actually supported those concessions.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, thank you. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That is not exactly true. But if that is his understanding and interpretation, I will accept it. Mr. Speaker, in the beginning of this Throne Speech response they referred to the politics of fear versus politics of fairness. Let …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair now will recognise the Honourable Member from Pembroke South East, constituency 21, Shadow Minister of Human Affairs, MP Rolfe Com-missiong. You have the floor.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not know where to start after that. But I am going to try. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: With an apology?
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong It is getting fairly late t onight, early morning. It is 12:22. Mr. Speaker, throughout the course of the debate, the discussion we have been having here, the Speech from the Throne and the subsequent r esponse, we have seen a number of Members on the other si de imply …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Community, Culture and Sport.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Community, Culture and Sport, Minister Scott, speak of the commitment that he has to soc ial issues. Minister Scott said that in reflection upon the Government’s Throne Speech, yet that commitment is barely reflected in the Throne Speech in question. Minister Scott did note that, on page 2 of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Member from Warwick West, constituency 28. MP Jefferson Sousa, you have the floor.
Mr. Jeff Sousa Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Jeff Sousa Happy Saturday. Of course, good morning to those who may still be awake and listening in the listening audience. Yesterday and this morning we c ontinued to debate the OBA Government’s Throne Speech. It is very clear to myself that our Government continues to move Bermuda in the right direction, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from Smith’s South, constituency 8, the Go vernment Whip and Government House Leader, MP Cole Simons. You have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do know we have just co me through an emergency crisis. We have had tropical storm Fay, and we also had Hurricane Gonzalo. But be that as it may, generally, Bermudians are very r esilient people. In a short period of time, we …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons [Madam Deputy] Speaker, I will start on the financial side, and then I am going to weave my way through to the economic side. On page 1, we sai d, you know, some of these personal economic storms are a direct correlation to Government and inefficiencies in Government. That is …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I said “an institution.” I did not say which one. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I am a banker, and so I d eclare that interest. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Madam Deputy Speaker, we have also talked about hotel development and there is an interesting benefit for hotel development that has not been spoken of. And, again, to help my people who are in [an] economic storm, who may have lost part of their home, who need furniture, keep your …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons They need to be fathers. I was at a dinner one day and I said to this lady, Who is your father? So she told me who he was. I said, You are his child? And I knew this man had four children by his wife, because I was friendly …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons People laugh. To me, that is part of the problem. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Because you have mothers out there that are raising sons and there is no gui dance from any father. And so the mothers can’t deal with their sons. Some mothers do a good job with dealing with their sons, individual mothers. But others are challenged and they need support. And …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Menzi . . . the report from — [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Mincy report. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. N. H . Cole Simons Somebody mentioned it. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons I think that is crucial because if a young man feels that he is productive, if a young man has a job, the likelihood of him getting into n efarious activity, unaccept able social behaviour dimi nishes. If they feel that they can make a contribution to achieve the things …
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons The LCCA [The Lady Cubitt Compassionate Association], to get support and she is saying, My husband has to go and sign the forms on behalf of the whole family. What am I to do? I have my mortgage. I have my children away at school. And they have three adul …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you very much. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to the Throne Speech and Reply? The Chair recognises the Shadow Minister of Finance, the Deputy Leader of the Opposition, from Pembroke West Central, constituency 18, Mr. E. David G. Burt. You have the floor.
Mr. E. David Burt Good evening and thank you . . . or good morning! And thank you very much, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, last week, or eight days ago, the people of Bermuda were treated to a Throne Speech as read by His Excellency the Governor. And what I will say …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He did a great job.
Mr. E. David Burt —said that the PLP’s response, Madam Deputy Speaker, was ideas and no details. Well, at least our speech had ideas, because the OBA’s speech had few ideas and certainly did not have any details. What it did contain was a lot of words and phrases, such as, “assess the feasibility”, …
Mr. E. David Burt I will read a few of those items right now, Mr. Speaker. • Last year we heard a referendum on gaming will take place in the first quarter of 2014. We all know what happened to that. • We heard that there will no longer be conscription for the Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, sir. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Member is incorrect on that. Short -term initiatives were done, so he should pro bably go back and look at the history.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, what I will say is, we have the confiscated funds from the Proceeds of Crime Act, and I invite the Honourable Premier, when he responds, to tell us what confiscated funds from the Proceeds of Crime Act went to fund short -term initiatives for out -of-work Bermudians.
Mr. E. David Burt I welcome that.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, sir. Yes. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Point of order. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Member is confused because last year in the Throne Speech we talked about confiscated assets and cash back [for] communities. That was also delivered.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Carry on. Carry on. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: And it was a rainy day then, so that must have been money from above.
The Speaker The Speaker Thanks, Premier . Thanks. Thanks, Premier.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Premier has made my point. That there was no cash from the Proceeds of Crime Act to fund short -term initiatives for out -of-work Bermudians. We got cash back for communities, but we did not get this, for out - of-work Bermudians, Mr. Speaker. I will …
Mr. E. David Burt Now, Mr. Speaker, that was just a short list. That was not the full list of items that were promised last year but that were not delivered. There are more than 20 ideas that were promised that were not done. And, Mr. Speaker, I cannot go through them all. But …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: —person understands that.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, I will . . . we can go back to the Hansard and hear what he said, but the fact is that he said that this point 0.7, was not really any growth. And that is a fact. And he has just gotten up and said that there …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: The Honourable Member does not seem to understand that.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, I will put it this way. It is very interesting that every time I get up to speak and make a point, that the Members on that front bench do not think I understand. I get it quite well. The people of this country understand that there are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair now recognises the Minister of F inance, the Honourable Bob Richards. You have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The hour is late; I will try to be as brief as possible. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Wow! Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: We do not have that kind of money. All right? This model enables us to cut a lot of that stuff out. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: A lot of that stuff out! And, Mr. Speaker, they say, Well, why don’t we …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott The Honourable Member is misleading this House. That is not a presumption. It is based on the facts in civil cases which have—
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott —documentation to back them up.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The company that he was talking about that was in trouble was not CCC. It was the contractor. So, you know, he was misleading the House. And I have taken this opportunity, instead of jumping up during his speech, although I …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Because I am negotiating the contract! That is how I know that.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker What is the point of order? He has made a point. There is no point of order there. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Yes. The Honourable Member is misleading the House. According to their P3 agreement that the CCC carries out, they are the ones that select who does the work and they alway s pick the Canadian companies. That is where the other con-tractor came in.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Carry on. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: First of all, Mr. Speaker, that particular Member has no idea what contract we are signing. He has read it in some book. We are not talking about some book. Right? [Laughter] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: We are talking about an …
The Speaker The Speaker No, you have 14 minutes yet. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Oh. Okay. Good.
The Speaker The Speaker Fourteen minutes. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I just want to say one or two things about the Reply to the Throne Speech. I found some of these things to be interesting. I just read it not that long ago, Mr. Speaker, but I was interested in the refrain from …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Anyone? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Anybody! Even Members of the Opposition! Now, there you go. Even Members of the Opposition—anybody that will come to us with an idea for Bermuda that will work economically, that will work and create jobs. But it has got to be competitive. It just …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Right. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Now, nobody has e xplained to me, or the Bermuda public, as far as I know, how online gaming— which is, by definition, inside of a computer, or a set of computers — is going to be a big job generator. I just do …
Mr. E. David B urt Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I am sure it is a much more complicated thing than a point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order or point of information? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Why don’t you give some sort of — POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House, or he has not been listening, because there have been many points in time in the previous session where we spoke about the jobs that come from technology, that come from accounting, that come from customer service, that come inside of …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Minister of Finance is misleading the House.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Declare your interest. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: I do not have to declare my interest. [Inaudible interjections and crosstalk]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, you do.
The Speaker The Speaker You s hould, if you are talking about — Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: I have already declared my interest in this Honourable Chamber about my bus iness.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Do it again.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: So every time the Honourable Minister of Finance has to speak about finance, he has to declare his interest —
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Carry on. Carry on, Honourable Member. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: —because he owns an i nvestment business licence?
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Honourable Member. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Come on. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I don’t have a business anymore. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Fair enough. Fair enough.
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Honourable Member. Carry on with your — Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: He is misleading the House. You have a major law firm in Bermuda, Appleby, who is the leading proponent of online gaming in one of our competitive jurisdictions called the Isle of Man. Appleby! In Bermuda! …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Thank you. Carry on. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: You know, I hate to be crass, but so what? They do not have a reinsurance business like we do. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Because it poses a reputational risk to Bermuda as a …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott The Honourable Member is misleading the House. The Government will own the physica l building, but the operation of the airport will be handed over to the contractor, which will be the CCC.
The Speaker The Speaker I think the Minister should know what he is doing. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister should, you know. He is the one who sat there and did it. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I do not know how you could know so much about this, Honourable Member. You have been tapping my phone? You have been peeking over my shoulder? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. E. David Burt The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. The Honourable Member is clearly telling us what is going to happen, yet he is saying that that is not case. But the Honourable Member is admitting that the contract has not even been written yet. So what happens if the conditions …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Carry on. Thanks. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: That is also mumbo jumbo rubbish, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I have already said, I will say it a gain. We are at the beginning of a journey here. Right? We are at the beginning …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: A week? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: A week. A week before it is given. All right? Because it has to be printed out and all that sort of thing and it has to be given to His Excellency. When we announced …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Point of information, Mr. Speaker. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I am finished, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. He is finished. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from St. George’s — [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker —from Devonshire, Devonshire [South Central]. MP Craig Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It has been a long night, and part of the sting has been taken out pretty much, the debate has been a bit tame. And then, of course, then came the Honourable Member, Deputy Opposition Leader, who spiced things up. And then, of course, the Finance …
Mr. L. Craig Ca nnonier I get confused. So I go back to page 5, and I read on page 5, “Yet the OBA continue to ignore these warnings” (tal king about diversification) “ignore the job losses, ignore the company closures, ignore the wage reductions.” Bermuda House of Assembly 146 14 November 2014 Official Hansard …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am just looking at you. You can take it personall y if you want. I do not care. I do not care. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. But then we continue on, Mr. Speaker, and it says, “The OBA’s myopic” (short -sighted) “focus on maturing industries . . .” (industries that are alread y here and maturing them), yet, if you flip over the page they talk about expanding on the banking industry that is already …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. As an entrepreneur I am concerned. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Because through the three elections in over a decade of a PLP Government, many of the entrepreneurs in this country were looking for a progressive way forward. But, economically, we did not see that, so we are seeking now opportunities between each other —PLP to OBA, OBA to PLP— on …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Because He is the one who has the crystal ball, not us.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That was a good one!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is priceless. [Inaudible interjections and crosstalk]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Well, Mr. Speaker, we continue on. Again, you know, we also heard examples of, Well, we came up with that initiative. You know, this Bermuda House of Assembly kind of rhetoric. Well, quite frankly, many of us have already said we don’t care where it . . . You know, …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. And it will continue to be open to debate. But this Government must continue on in its mandate of fixing and becoming more economically and physically prudent about the people’s purse to ensure that we can get investment back into this coun try. So I will go back, Mr. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I was going to keep it there, and I am going to keep cool, but I find it remarkable that some Members would even respond to that when right now we are in the midst of offensive words that were said to female members of this society. So, Mr. Speaker, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh, you heard it?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —and it was y our daughter . . . Mr. Speaker, I can guarantee you would be grabbing a hold of me. This is not about the perpetrator and the person who was a victim. It is not about them at all. It is about the fact that we as …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier My goodness. All I can is, Mercy! That even those words would be uttered: “What was said?” If you do not know what you said, God have mercy on you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair now recognises the Honourable Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first, let me start out and say that the honourable colleagues on this side did a very commendable job yesterday and today in the Throne Speech debate. Just about …
Mr. E. David Burt Point or order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives and misleading]
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Premier is not only imputing improper motives, but he is misleading the House. When Members get up and they debate, they do their research.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. All right, Honourable Member, thank you. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, that is a pretty weak point of order. A pretty weak point of order. And what is interesting, Mr. Speaker, every Throne Speech says things that are not done and then get done the next year. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Whoa! Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: That is what that really is, Mr. Speaker. Arrant nonsense. Bermuda House of Assembly 150 14 November 2014 Official Hansard Report [Inaudible interjections and crosstalk] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Now, Mr. Speaker, they talk about immigration reform. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What nonsense? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Come on, Mr. Speaker. And the Honourable Member says, We ll, tell me the legislation the OBA has brought to combat crime. Well, let me give you a little bit of education about crime. Legislation will help, but it does not fight crime by …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker It is late. It is [early] in the morning. Let’s get this session done. Carry on, Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Obviously, he is not liste ning. Mr. Speaker, there has been talk about Team Street Safe. And before I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Must have been drinking milk. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Could have been drinking milk. Now, Mr. Speaker, one of t he Honourable Members mentioned CARTEL, and why CARTEL was not going to be used for their expertise. Well, Mr. Speaker, the former Government never used CARTEL either. I find it …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORD ER [Imputing improper motive] Bermuda House of Assembly 152 14 November 2014 Official Hansard Report Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: He is imputing improper m otive on a citizen of this country. Because an individual worked at BLDC and they are a part of CARTEL, how …
The Speaker The Speaker All rig ht. Thank you. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: It is misleading —
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: —by the Premier. He knows that.
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, a Minister was fired over that so there must have been som ething going on. Now, Mr. Speaker, the big difference between this Government and the last Government is conf idence. And as I illustrate that, let me just go through …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. E. David B urt The Honourable Member is mi sleading the House. There is nobody on this side who attacked the credibility of anyone. The Opposition merely pointed out that there are no plans for deve lopment that have been submitted to Planning and asked the Government for clarification as to when the project …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Thank you, Member. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, no plans in front of Planning? What year was it we had that real media show where the old Holiday Inn was blown up?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes! Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Did any plans get into Planning after that Holiday Inn was blown up? Huh? Bermuda House of Assembly Well, what happened to it? Nada! Nada happened, Mr. Speaker. So I do not want to hear it. We have said over and over again, that d …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much, Honourable Member. And that concludes the debate on the Throne Speech, the Reply to the Throne Speech. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Prem ier. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Oh! Are there any objections to that motion? The Orders of the Day, I would think that all the Orders are carried over. Yes? I do not think an ybody wants an Order at three o’clock in the morning. [Motion carr ied]
The Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I move that we adjourn.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable . . . [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, I thought you wanted to speak. The House is adjourned to Friday, November the 21st. [Gavel] [At 1:02 am, [Saturday, 15 November 2014] the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 21 N ovember 2014.] Bermuda House of Assembly 154 14 November 2014 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of …
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