The SpeakerThe SpeakerHonourable Members, please remain standing for a moment. We have had the passing of a former Member of this Legislature, Mr s. Ann Car twright De Couto, who served this Assembly from D ecember 1980 until November 1998, and who served as a Deputy Premier and a Minister in the …
Honourable Members, please remain standing for a moment. We have had the passing of a former Member of this Legislature, Mr s. Ann Car twright De Couto, who served this Assembly from D ecember 1980 until November 1998, and who served as a Deputy Premier and a Minister in the United Bermuda Party Governments. So, I ask that we all today pass our condolences on to the family of Mrs. Cartwright De Couto, and that at this moment we have a minute’s silence in her honour. [The Ho use rose and observed a moment of silence.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Members. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES 24 June 2016
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SpeakerThe SpeakerHonourable Members, we have the Minutes of June 24th, which have been distributed. And unless there are any corrections or objections, those minutes will be approved. Any corrections or objections? There are none. So the Minutes of June 24 th are confirmed. [Mi nutes of 24 June 2016 confirmed] MESSAGES …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING OMBUDSMAN FOR BERMUDA 2015 ANNUAL REPORT
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Honourable Members, first , I would like to announce that I have received the O mbudsman for Bermuda Annual Report for 2016 [sic]. This report has been submitted to me in accordance with section 24(1) and 24(3) of the Ombudsman Act 2004. And we see the Ombudsman in the …
Yes. Honourable Members, first , I would like to announce that I have received the O mbudsman for Bermuda Annual Report for 2016 [sic]. This report has been submitted to me in accordance with section 24(1) and 24(3) of the Ombudsman Act 2004. And we see the Ombudsman in the House, so we appreciate your report. [Des k thumping] SELECTION OF JOINT SELECT COMMITTEE TO EXAMINE EFFICACY OF LIVING WAGE IN BERMUDA
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHonourable Members, I would like to announce today the make- up of the Joint Select Committee which has been set up to examine the eff icacy of a living wage in Bermuda. The committee is made up of the following Members: MP Rolfe Commissiong, from constit uency 21; MP Lawrence …
Honourable Members, I would like to announce today the make- up of the Joint Select Committee which has been set up to examine the eff icacy of a living wage in Bermuda. The committee is made up of the following Members: MP Rolfe Commissiong, from constit uency 21; MP Lawrence Scott, from constituency 24; the Learned Member, MP Leah Scott, from constit uency 30; the Honourable and Learned Member S. D. Crockwell, from constituency 31; the Learned Member Mark Pettingill, from constituency 25; S enator Kim Wilkerson; and Senator Vic Ball. I would also like to announce that those Members are asked to meet at 12:30 today in the atrium for a brief meeting to select the chairman of that committee. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
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SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Chair will first recognise the Ho nourable Premier, Premier Dunkley. Hon . Michael H. Dunkley: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. 2290 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of As sembly POLICE (CONDUCT) ORDER 2016 Hon. Mich ael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Police (Conduct) Order 2016.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Premier. Carry on. POLICE (PERFORMANCE) ORDER 2016 Hon. Michael H. Dunkl ey: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Also, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of A ssembly the Police (Performance) Order 2016.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you very much, Premier. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minis ter for Economic Development. Dr. Grant Gibbons, you have the floor. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION (SPECTRUM A PPLICATION SERVICE FEES) REGULATIONS 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Electronic Communication (Spectrum Application Service Fees) Regulations 2016, proposed to be made by …
Good morning. ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION (SPECTRUM A PPLICATION SERVICE FEES) REGULATIONS 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Electronic Communication (Spectrum Application Service Fees) Regulations 2016, proposed to be made by the Minis-ter responsible for Economic Development under the provision of section 43 of the Electronic Communic ations Act 2011, as read by section 44 of the Regul atory Authority Act 2011. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The Chair will now rec ognise the Minister of . . . the Minister of Works is not here, so Minister, will you do it? The Chair will recognise the Minister of the Environment. HERITAGE WHARF CONVEYANCE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. …
Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now rec ognise the Minister of . . . the Minister of Works is not here, so Minister, will you do it? The Chair will recognise the Minister of the Environment. HERITAGE WHARF CONVEYANCE Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Works, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly, and in accordance with section 2(1)(a) of the Acquis ition of Land Act 1970, a conveyance made between the West End Development Corporation (the “Ve ndor”) of the other part , and the Government of Bermuda, through the Ministry of Public Works (the “Pur-chaser”) of the other part, as set out in the property described as a piece of parcelled land adjoining the north breaker in Dockyard, Ireland Island, in the Pa rish of Sandys.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Thank you, Minister. You also have another, Minister? Carry on. 2015 CITY OF HAMILTON PLAN Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the honour to attach and submit for the inform ation of the Honourable House of Assembly the 2015 City of Hamilton Plan.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Junior Mini ster. Junior Minister Bascome, you have the floor. Hon. Kenneth (Kenny) Bascome: Good morning, Mr. Sp eaker, and Honourable Members.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. HOTELS CONCESSION (HAMILTON PRINCESS AND BEACH CLUB) ORDER 2016 Hon. Kenneth (Kenny) Bascome: I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of this Hon-ourable House of Assembly the Hotels Concession (Hamilton Princess and Beach Club) Order 2016, pr oposed to be made by the Minister …
Good morning. HOTELS CONCESSION (HAMILTON PRINCESS AND BEACH CLUB) ORDER 2016 Hon. Kenneth (Kenny) Bascome: I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of this Hon-ourable House of Assembly the Hotels Concession (Hamilton Princess and Beach Club) Order 2016, pr oposed to be made by the Minister of Tourism under provisions of sections 3 and 4 of the Hotels Conces-sion Act.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Junior Minister Bascome. That concludes the papers. [ Pause]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAlso, Honourable Members, to just make a correction. The Bermuda Annual Report from the Ombudsman was for the year 2015, although we are receiving it now. PETITIONS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTER S AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Chair will recognise first the Mini ster for Economic Development. Dr. Grant Gibbons, you have the floor. LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY ACT 2016 B ermuda House of Assembly Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Minister. Mr. Speaker, this morning I had the pleasure of tabling the Limited Liability …
The Chair will recognise first the Mini ster for Economic Development. Dr. Grant Gibbons, you have the floor. LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY ACT 2016
B ermuda House of Assembly Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Minister. Mr. Speaker, this morning I had the pleasure of tabling the Limited Liability Company Act 2016 . This Bill is a signific ant piece of legislation, which will e stablish the first new commercial structure in Bermuda in more than 100 years. With the enactment of this legislation, we will create a structure that offers broad flexibility for both local and international use. This new structure is a tremendous step forward, ensuring that Bermuda has corporate products that are modern and innovative, but also familiar to many prospective cl ients. Mr. Speaker, limited liability companies, commonly referred to as LLCs, are currently one of the most widely used business structures in the United States. LLCs are typically viewed as hybrid entities because they offer characteristics and adva ntages of both partnerships and corporations. The fundamental similarity to partnerships is that LLCs are managed and operated pursuant to a contractual agreement amongst the members, who are the ow ners of the LLC. This provides significant flexibility for LLC members to determine the most appropriate terms and conditions for the administration and go vernance of the LLC. Mr. Speaker, LLCs are also similar to corpor ations, or in our case, limited companies, in that LLC members generally enjoy limited liability , so any personal liability is limited to the value of each member’s capital contribution to the LLC. This limitation on liability typically remains in place even if LLC members actively participate in the management of an LLC. In fact, the ability of the members to both manage the day-to-day operations of an LLC while retaining their limited liabil ity are two cornerstones of this structure and are particularly attractive to investors. Mr. Speaker, LLCs are well known amongst US law firms as a vehicle of choice for private equity funds and asset holding structures. They are also uti lised in some offshore jurisdictions such as the Isle of Man, Anguilla, and the Marshall Islands. LLCs have also recently been introduced in the Cayman Islands. The popularity of LLCs is based on market demand by persons and entities seeking the flexibility and protec-tion offered by this corporate structure. In Delaware alone, there are nearly 800,000 active LLCs , with just over 180,000 being formed since the start of 2015. To fully engage potential cl ients in the U nited States and other markets and to make Bermuda more attractive for setting up new business ventures, Bermuda must respond to the de-mand for LLC structures. Mr. Speaker, while the Bill is generally modelled after existing US LLC laws, Bermuda LLCs will be subject to the same transparency requirements for beneficial ownership that apply to existing Bermuda structures. The recent announcement by the US Go vernment of enhanced filing requirements for certain beneficial owners of LLCs simply underscores Ber-muda’s position as a world leader in relation to global transparency issues. Mr. Speaker, the Government remains co mmitted to strengthening Bermuda’s reputation as a premier domicile for a variety of international business activities. As such, we will continue to bring forth legi slative initiatives which will be aimed at improving Bermuda’s corporate products and services. One of the most important components of achieving success in this effort is working in collabor ation with entities across the Government and the pr ivate sector to develop, implement , and evaluate the impact of policies and initiatives aimed at improving our economic performance. In the past 14 months, this collaboration resulted in the enactment of seven Bills that received bipartisan support in the Legislature and which made significant changes to our legislative framework governing partnerships, companies, trusts , and contracts. Mr. Speaker, I believe that the benefits of cr eating this new LLC structure for use locally and by international businesses will again result in bipartisan support for this important piece of legislation. As such, I look forward to moving this Bill through our legisl ative process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise Dr. Gibbons again. PERSONAL INFORMA TION PROTECTION ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Personal Information Protection Bill , also known as the PIPA, which will be tabled today, marks a milestone …
All right. Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise Dr. Gibbons again. PERSONAL INFORMA TION PROTECTION ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Personal Information Protection Bill , also known as the PIPA, which will be tabled today, marks a milestone in the history of human rights in Bermuda. It provides all Bermuda residents with the right to have their personal information pr otected, known as the right to info rmational privacy , which is considered to be a basic human right in many countries. The PIPA Bill is critical for our advancement and recognition as a democratic and just society, and also for the protection of Bermuda’s economic inter-ests. Mr. Speaker, we provide our personal information to organisations on a daily basis and have little knowledge about how that information is being used and shared, and whether it is kept securely. This is particularly concerning in the digital age. While we understand that organisations need to use our personal information in order to provide services, it is only reasonable that we have some control over the use of the information that we provide to them. The PIPA Bill sets out the rights of individuals with respect to the use of their personal information by organisations. This legislation will also go a long way 2292 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of As sembly in providing protection against the potential misuse of personal information. Mr. Speaker, the PIPA legislation will also bring Bermuda in line with our competitors. More and more jurisdictions allow the transfer of personal information only to countries they feel provide adequate protection. This list includes the European Union, in particular. We intend to submit an application to the European Union to be deeme d “Adequate” in order to join this network of trusted countries. In the light of Brexit and the UK’s leaving the European Union, a finding of “Adequacy ” from the EU becomes even more important and would certainly provide Bermuda with a significant compet itive adva ntage. Privacy legislation is also recognised as a major requirement for a country’s successful cybersecurity framework and for a vibrant digital economy. Mr. Speaker, the PIPA will apply to all organisations, businesses , and the government that use personal information in Bermuda. The Bill outlines the requirements for organisations that use personal i nformation to provide services for legitimate purposes, balanced against the individual’s rights. It also details a set of internationally accepted privacy principles that reflect accepted standards of good business practice for the use of personal information. Many organisations have already adopted privacy practices either to comply with certain obliga-tions or as a matter of good business, as it builds trust. In keeping with our business -friendly light regulatory traditions, PIPA avoids some of the administr ative burdens placed on organisations that exist els ewhere, particularly in other small jurisdictions with this type of legislation. Mr. Speaker, in the E -Commerce Depar tment’s 2014/15 Information and Communications Technology [ICT] benchmarking report, 97 per cent of Bermuda’s residents believe that it is important to pr otect their personal information. While the PIPA pr ovides important rights and protections that do not presently exist and are both welcome and necessary, we recognise that it will take time for organisations to prepare. That is why we do not intend to bring the PIPA into force for an approximate period of two years. And I would like to emphasise approximate here, Mr. Speaker, because it could be slightly sooner or it could be longer, depending on preparedness. During this time, the Privacy Commissioner will be issuing guidance and advice to assist organisations in their readiness for the implementation of the PIPA legislation. The introduction of the PIPA legislation will also provide an important complement to the PATI legislation. Privacy is often confused with freedom of information. They have similarities, but are different. They both exist to prevent abuses, and they both pr ovide for the individual’s right to access information. However, in PATI this is limited to government infor-mation only. The PIPA legislation provides rights for individuals to control the use of their personal inform ation by all organisations, whereas PATI does not. Mr. Speaker, our work has now been completed as promised in the Speech from the Throne in November 2014. A significant amount of time, effort , and research has gone into the development of the PIPA Bill in order to develop a privacy model that meets Bermuda’s unique requirements. The model on which the PIPA Bill is based went out for public consultation last summer, and there has been support expressed for this legislation. As a result of the feedback received during that exercise, the model was refined. In addition, there have been several important developments in the international privacy arena as of late. The EU have issued new privacy regulations known as the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), and a new framework for the transfer of personal information between the EU and the US, or quote, “ Privacy Shield ,” as it is called, has also been developed. These have also been taken into consideration in the PIPA Bill. We feel that the Bill before you today provides a framework that balances comprehensive informational privacy rights with sensible regulation and that meets current international standards. Mr. Speaker, most importantly, the PIPA Bill is for every individual and his or her family and friends. Without it, we are all at risk. That is why , with this le gislation , we are drawing a line in the sand and ensuring that , in Bermuda, informational privacy protection will now be a fundamental and enshrined core right. Thank you, Mr. Spe aker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Minister of Education. Minister Wayne Scott, you have the floor. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. 2016 SENIOR SCHOOL GRADUATIONS Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Mr. Speaker, the 2015/16 Public School academic year ended for our st udents on Friday, June 24th. I take this opportunity to thank the school boards, administrations, teachers, support staff, volunteers, parents, guardians , and students for their commitment and …
Good morning. 2016 SENIOR SCHOOL GRADUATIONS Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Mr. Speaker, the 2015/16 Public School academic year ended for our st udents on Friday, June 24th. I take this opportunity to thank the school boards, administrations, teachers, support staff, volunteers, parents, guardians , and students for their commitment and efforts during this academic year. Across the breadth of the public school sy stem, despite tremendous challenges, there are countless and significantly positive results of academic achievement. Mr. Speaker, as Minister of this most important Ministry, I remain committed to supporting the Government’s commitment of fostering a public school system that will have our c hildren and young adults
Bermuda House of Assembly fulfil their professional and personal goals and contribute to the fabric and future destiny of our Island home, Bermuda. I remain committed to a sentiment articulated by El eanor Roosevelt , who stated, “It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness.” I will commit to speak light over our children as they are all destined for greatness as we nurture them. Mr. Speaker, Members of this Honou rable House and listening audience, o ur students are ma king tremendous strides in their academic performance and achievements. This year our graduating students received certificates, awards, scholarships , and recognition for their continued perseverance and commitment to excellence during their high school years. These included the awarding of Bermuda school diplomas , IGCSEs [International General Certificate of Secondary Education] , and certificates of a chiev ement . I will highlight a few of the results of student achievements and awards presented during the graduation activities held at t he Berkeley Institute on June 27 th and the CedarBridge Academy on June 28th. Mr. Speaker, let me first start with the Berk eley Institute’s 2016 graduation class. [There were] 110 students [who] received their Bermuda School D iploma (BSD). Of this total, 84 per cent also received the Berkeley School Certificate, which signifies a GPA of 2.25 or higher. Additionally, the Berkeley School introduced for the first time a Berkeley Honours pr ogramme, of which 2 0 students successfully achieved the required standard of obtaining grades A* to C on their IGCSE Cambridge Exams, as well as maintai ning a GPA of 3.0 and higher. Students awarded A dvanced Honours in this programme achieved the Honours level , plus they com pleted Bermuda College credits , or AP level courses. Thus, these students were awarded annotations of summa, magna, or cum laude on their certificates. Mr. Speaker, t here were four students at the Berkeley School who achieved top Advanced Honours: Dejanee Hill-Edwards achieved six IGCSEs , in addition to 67 college credits for her a ssociate ’s degree and a Bermuda School Diploma [BSD] for a GPA of 4.06. K yrsten Burrows obtained six IGCSEs , in addition to 66 college credits for his associate ’s degree and a Bermuda School Diploma, with a GPA of 4.14. Kyrsten is this year’s Outstanding Male Teen for Academic Achievement and also this year’s recipient of the XL Catlin Scholarship . Imani Smith achieved five IGCSEs and will complete her A ssociate ’s Degree in Insurance with the Bermuda Insurance Institute in July of this year. She received a Bermuda School Diploma for a GPA of 3.68. And Kimika Jackson obtained five IGCSEs , in addition to 50 college credits and a Bermuda School Diploma with a GPA of 3.86. Mr. Speaker, these four Advanced Honours students have been accepted in overseas universities. In fact, 88 per cent of the entire 2016 graduating class at the Berkeley School will be attending either the Bermuda College in the f all, or a four -year university abroad, to study disciplines such as law, marine bio logy, medicine, actuarial science, accounting, and quantitative risk and insurance. Well done! to our Berkeley Institute graduates and C ongratulations ! to the entire Berkeley family . Mr. Speaker, I will move on t o CedarBridge Academy’s 2016 graduation class. A total of 84 st udents earned their Bermuda School Diploma, with a further 22 s tudents eligible to earn their diplomas following the 2016 CedarBridge Summer Programme. Additionally, there were 26 students who graduated from the CedarBridge with GPAs of 3.0 and higher. And b efore I provide details about CedarBridge, Mr. Speaker, I noted that roughly 40 per cent of our total graduates from both senior schools were our young males. So, good things are happening wi th our male students, and that is a very important statistic that I think all of us in this House and in Bermuda should be proud of. We should encourage our students no matter where we see them. Mr. Speaker, the five top students at the C edarBridge Academ y were: Taiyana Allen , who earned five IGCSEs , the Bermuda School Diploma with Di stinction, a GPA of 3.99 and an Associate’s Degree in Science (Actuarial Science) from Bermuda College. She is also the recipient of the HSBC Joseph Johnson Scholarship 2016. She will pursue studies in actuarial science at Georgia State University in the fall. Tamara Jackson earned five IGCSEs , Advanced Subsidiary (AS) Level English and the Bermuda Sc hool Diploma with Distinction, a GPA of 4.09. Tamara graduated one year early. Further, she has already earned one year's credits towards an Associate’s Degree in Accounting from Bermuda College , which she will complete in May 2017. Donnauri Robinson achieved seven IGCSEs and AS Level English. She graduated one year early with the B ermuda School Diploma with Honours, a GPA of 3.42. Donnauri will continue her studies at the Bermuda College in the f all. Mr. Speaker, that is seven IGCSEs and a year early from high school. Evan Heyliger obtained eight IGCSEs and AS Level English. He earned the Bermuda School D iploma with a GPA of 3.11. He also graduated one year early and was selected as a Rotary Exchange Student with a placement in Argentina. So, Mr. Speaker, next time we start hearing about all the negative things in our public schools, eight IGCSEs and a year early? Sophia Hamilton earned four I GCSEs, the Berm uda School Diploma with Honours, a GPA of 3.74 and her associate ’s degree from the Bermuda College. She achieved the Outstanding Teen Award for Spiritual Leadership and will be a ttending university in Australia in the f all. (And that was eight IGCSEs, Member. ) Mr. Speaker, o n a side note, I was encouraged to hear that there were five students at the C edarBridge Academy who committed extra effort to 2294 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly their studies and graduated with a Bermuda High School Diploma within three years , or a year earlier. In addition to that, all five students graduated with a GPA above 3.0. Mr. Speaker, o f the entire 2016 graduating class at CedarBridge Academy, inclusive of attending Bermuda College, mor e than half have already r eceived college acceptance letters from 20 different universities and colleges in the United States, Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom. Our students have demonstrated persistence, perseverance, and a passion in their studi es. Congratulations! Mr. Speaker, you may recall my sharing with this Honourable House last year that the Bermuda College had introduced the Dual Enrolment Pr ogramme, allowing qualified publi c high school st udents to enrol in college- level courses. Upon s ucces sful completion of the courses , the students earn ac ademic college credit while still attending their respective high school s. Four of our public school senior students who graduated from the Berkeley Institute and the CedarBridge Academy participated in the Dual Enrolment Programme at Bermuda College. This week they r eceived their high school diploma, having already o btained associate ’s degrees from the Bermuda College in May. These students are the first to achieve this in Bermuda’s history. Well do ne to these four senior st udents! Lastly, Mr. Speaker, I must mention that some of our students have decided not to pursue academic goals immediately , but have planned a gap year before commencing overseas studies. These individuals have instead decided t o dedicate themselves to engaging in missionary work, tr avel with Up with People , and participate in the Rotary Exchange Programme in Peru and Argentina. I commend these students for taking time to pursue these interests , which will help to propel them eve n further in their educational growth. Mr. Speaker, t here is so much more that I have to share, and I will make a point to keep the pu blic and this House updated on our student achiev ements. I am very much encouraged by the accom-plishments and successes our public school senior students have experienced. I extend a sincere thank you to all the teaching staff, support and administr ative staff at our two public senior schools , under the competent leadership of Principal Kalmar Richards and Dr. Phyllis Curtis -Tweed. I can emphatically state that our students are destined for greatness , and Bermuda’s future and destiny is looking bright. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Thank you, Mini ster. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJust a second, just a second. There are no reports of committees, right. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJust before we move into the Question Period, I want to take time to recognise the former Member of Parliament I see sitting in the Gallery, fo rmer MP Jon Brunson. [Desk thumping] QUESTION PERIOD
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWe now move into the Question P eriod. The Chair will first recognise the Member from constituency 6, MP Wayne Furbert. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Spe aker, there is one part missing from here, but maybe the Minister can help out. If not, if he …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWhat is missing, Honourable Member? No, ask the question. Then he will answer it. Hon. Wayne L. Furb ert: Yes, yes, but there is a part missing.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOkay. Then ask the question. QUESTION: LOUIS VUITTON AMERICA’S CUP EVENT Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. The first part: Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House who attended t he Louis Vuitton America’s Cup in New York, which took place on May 7 th to 8th, 2016, from …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The following Members attended the Lou is Vuitton America’s Cup in New York on May 7 th through 8th from the Government of Bermuda: the Premier, the Minister of Economic Development, and the Cabinet Secretary ; from the ACBDA …
Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The following Members attended the Lou is Vuitton America’s Cup in New York on May 7 th through 8th from the Government of Bermuda: the Premier, the Minister of Economic Development, and the Cabinet Secretary ; from the ACBDA : the Chair of the ACBDA Board, the Chief Executive Officer of the ACBDA , the Administrative Assistant to the Chair and the CEO, the Media Relations representative, the Health and Safety Committee Chair, and the Market-ing Committee Chair.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, Honourable Member. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I have a question. The Spe aker: Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. Is the Minister able to give us a rough idea for the cost for both the Gover nment and ACBDA? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant …
Yes, Honourable Member.
Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I have a question.
The Spe aker: Supplementary?
SUPPLEMENTARY
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. Is the Minister able to give us a rough idea for the cost for both the Gover nment and ACBDA?
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, as you are aware, that question was answered last week. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. The Clerk: Yes, I am a bit confused myself. Where are we? Because that was last week’s question. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I am missing . . . I was not here last week. The Clerk: I know that.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, your question was asked last week. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: By whom? I was not here.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe question was asked. The Clerk: I do not think it was even asked.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. The question was asked. The Clerk: Oh, yes, that is right, by Mr. Z ane De Silva.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMP De Silva. The Clerk: So the question — [Crosstalk]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJust a minute, Ms. Wolffe. The question was asked by MP De Silva. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Okay.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. We now move to the Statements. The Clerk: I believe we have an oral question, Mr. Speaker, from Jamahl Simmons. Am I correct?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerIt is not on the Order Paper. The Clerk: Okay. It is — Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, I can help on that.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll rig ht. Yes, okay. Just a minute. Let me get some order here, and find out what is going on. [Pause] The Clerk: Okay. There is some confusion. We will have to sort this out later.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI remember seeing it. It is not on the Order Paper. But I do rem ember having seen a question from Jamahl Simmons. The Clerk: This is the correct question. The question that Mr. Furbert should have asked is the one regar ding the Louis Vuitton America’s Cup in New …
I remember seeing it. It is not on the Order Paper. But I do rem ember having seen a question from Jamahl Simmons.
The Clerk: This is the correct question. The question that Mr. Furbert should have asked is the one regar ding the Louis Vuitton America’s Cup in New York that is on the Order Paper for today. That is the only outstanding question from Mr. W. L. Furbert.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd we have questions from Mr. Si mmons, correct? [Inaudible interjections ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, yes. There are written questions. The Clerk: Okay. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd you have received those questions. Right. The Clerk: All right. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerVery good. Okay. Thank you very much. All right. Thanks. We will move now to the Ministerial Statements. And the first Statement is by Dr. Gibbons, and the Chair will recognise the H onourable Member from constituency 33, MP Jamahl Si mmons, with questions.
Mr. Jamahl S. SimmonsThank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues; good morning, Ber-muda.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. QUESTION 1: LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY ACT 2016
Mr. Jamahl S. SimmonsWould the Honourable Mi nister inform this Parliament as to what he perceives as the employment opportunities, entrepreneurial opportunities, or supporting service opportunities from the creation of this new commercial structure? 2296 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of As sembly The Spe aker: Minister. Dr. the Hon. …
Would the Honourable Mi nister inform this Parliament as to what he perceives as the employment opportunities, entrepreneurial opportunities, or supporting service opportunities from the creation of this new commercial structure? 2296 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly The Spe aker: Minister.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am happy to answer that question. I am going to be perhaps a little brief here because I do not want to pre- empt debate on the Bill.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerFair enough, fair enough. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: But suffice it to say that, as I outlined in the Statement, an LLC is a very flexible corporate structure. And what that means is that it is much less expensive, frankly, to set up an LLC. It does not …
Fair enough, fair enough. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: But suffice it to say that, as I outlined in the Statement, an LLC is a very flexible corporate structure. And what that means is that it is much less expensive, frankly, to set up an LLC. It does not require a lot of t he governance issues that companies do— bylaws, things of that sort. So, in essence, for entrepreneurs and others who want a much more flexible and tighter structure, it still requires transparency and all those sorts of issues that the BMA and others are looking for; an LLC is a very popular structure in the United States. So it is less expensive, easier to set up and can set out very precisely, in the contractual foundation of it, what the responsibilities are of the members involved. So I think it will p rovide great potential for both local and international business here, and another vehicle to use. I gave numbers in Delaware, and Delaware is the only state that provides LLCs in the United States. There are almost 800,000 of them, 150,000 over the last couple of years. So I think it will be a boon for both international, but particularly for local businesses here. And in that respect, we were quite careful to make it available to local companies as well. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. MP Simmons.
Mr. Jamahl S. SimmonsI understand the Minister does not want to predict debate, but what he gave me essentially was the definition of an LLC. He d id not make any mention of employment, entrepreneurial or supporting services, opportunities. I am just curious whether he is aware of any, perhaps, that he would …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thought what I explained was that this is a more flexible and less costly structure to set up. That means for a small business, they may prefer setting up an LLC as opposed to a corporate …
Minister.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I thought what I explained was that this is a more flexible and less costly structure to set up. That means for a small business, they may prefer setting up an LLC as opposed to a corporate structure or a partnership. And the advantage of an LLC as compared to a partnership is that an LLC pr ovides the ability to have protection against personal liability. So it is kind of a hybrid between a company and a partnership. A number of people use partnerships here because they are sim ple; but they do not provide personal protection against liability. And that is one of the advantages here. So in relation to what the uptake is going to be, whether it will be adopted in great numbers locally, I think that remains to be seen. But from our perspective, it should have a lot of use, partic ularly for smaller, start -up types of companies that do not want to have the expense of going through a lot of the legal work required to set up a corporate structure. As far as the international side is concerned, this is something that a lot of US fund managers are looking for. And it is something that we think will bring additional business here, in particular for something like a private equity fund or others. And as a consequence of that, we will see mor e work locally for those provi ding services to international business, which would then translate into employment as well. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Yes, MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Minister, with nearly a mi llion LLCs having been formed in Delaware, obviously you must have some faith that this can be of some assistance and help to Bermuda. In making that determination to bring thi s to the House, can …
Yes, yes.
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Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Minister, with nearly a mi llion LLCs having been formed in Delaware, obviously you must have some faith that this can be of some assistance and help to Bermuda. In making that determination to bring thi s to the House, can you give us any indication as to how many you think might actually use Bermuda to form an LLC?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot give a quantitative a nswer because, wi thout being cute, I do not have a crystal ball. But I will say this is something that has come up fairly regularly in discussions with overseas law …
Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot give a quantitative a nswer because, wi thout being cute, I do not have a crystal ball. But I will say this is something that has come up fairly regularly in discussions with overseas law firms and overseas providers on the international business side, and it is something that would certainly be of benefit to Bermuda from a competitive perspective. But to be able to put a number on at this point, I think, is pretty premature.
Bermuda House of Assembly
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 6, MP Wayne Furbert, for a supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the biggest question I have always wanted to ask is this. The Mi nister talks about a significant piece of legislation. He talks about 800,000 …
Thank you. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 6, MP Wayne Furbert, for a supplementary.
SUPPLEMENTARY
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the biggest question I have always wanted to ask is this. The Mi nister talks about a significant piece of legislation. He talks about 800,000 formed already in the United States, and the Cayman Islands are ahead of us. When are we ever going to be ahead of the Cayman Islands so that we are laying down legislation before they do?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The interesting thing about the Cayman I slands is they started their work on this some five years ago. And we only started to work on this two years ago. So I think the answer, to some degree, resides …
Minister.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The interesting thing about the Cayman I slands is they started their work on this some five years ago. And we only started to work on this two years ago. So I think the answer, to some degree, resides with the former Government who, had they started this process earlier, we might have been there three years ago. But I think it is interesting to compare the two. The Cayman legislation was just brought into oper ation a couple of weeks ago. So in some respects we are not that far behind. They have been talking about it for some time. But, as Honourable Members will see when they get a copy, this is quite a lengthy piece of legislation. It is also equivalent to another Companies Act in its own right. And we have had a lot of good cooperation between the private sector and Gover nment on this one to get it moved forward. But it has only taken us two years. It took Cayman five years. And as I said, had things started sooner under a former Government, we would have been there by now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Minister. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 29, MP De Silva. A question? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThis is your question? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, my second suppl ementary.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYour second supplementary. All right. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Minister, you just said you had some assistance from the private sector. Can you tell us who that was , and did the Government pay for that assistance?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, I would prefer to get into that when we actually debate the legislation and I can set out more clearly who the players were. But suffice it to say that the private sector contributed enormously to this in terms of providing …
Minister.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, I would prefer to get into that when we actually debate the legislation and I can set out more clearly who the players were. But suffice it to say that the private sector contributed enormously to this in terms of providing assistance. It came through the BDA [Bermuda Bus iness Development Agency] process. And the answer is no, we did not pay for that contribution from the pr ivate sector.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 17 with a question, MP Walton Brown. QUESTION 1: LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY ACT 2016
Mr. Walton BrownThank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, given that this represents a new approach for doing a corporate structure in Bermuda, can the Minister confirm that the same dichotomy between local companies and international companies will pertain to this structure whe n fully developed; i.e., some will …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, given that this represents a new approach for doing a corporate structure in Bermuda, can the Minister confirm that the same dichotomy between local companies and international companies will pertain to this structure whe n fully developed; i.e., some will be able to operate in Bermuda, others will not be able to operate, based on the particular structure and ownership?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: The answer is yes, Mr. Speaker, and we will get i nto that, obviously, when we get into the debate when we get there in a couple of weeks. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Yes, Honourable Member Commissiong.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. Do y ou have a suppl ementary? SUPPLEMENTARY 2298 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of As sembly Mr. Rolfe Commissiong: Yes. Could the Honourable Minister outline just briefly some of the key differences between the current limited liability structure we have and this proposed new …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am a little concerned we are getting into the debate here; we are anticipating the debate at this stage. And I have set out some of those answers already in the Statement in terms of the …
Minister.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am a little concerned we are getting into the debate here; we are anticipating the debate at this stage. And I have set out some of those answers already in the Statement in terms of the fact that this combines elements of both the company and a partnership and why this has benefits. So I prefer not to get into this whole- scale, with your permission. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerRight. Thank you. All right. Thank you very much, Honourable Members. We now move to the . . . there are no questions on Dr. Gibbons’ second Statement. We do have questions for the Minister of Education. And I first recognise the Shadow Minister of Education, MP Lovitta Foggo.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerGood morning. QUESTION 1: 2016 SENIOR SCHOOL GRADU ATIONS
Ms. Lovitta F. FoggoFirst, let me just quickly say that I would like to join in with the Minister for all of the accolades for what we see happening in our Bermuda public schools. My question is this for the Honourable Mini ster: Minister, given many of the successes that we now see …
First, let me just quickly say that I would like to join in with the Minister for all of the accolades for what we see happening in our Bermuda public schools. My question is this for the Honourable Mini ster: Minister, given many of the successes that we now see taking place, what processes are being put in place to assist and ensure that our graduates who have the Dual [Enrolment] Associates Programme, as well as coming out of high school at the same time, are able, once they graduate with that associate’s d egree, to secure employment within their area? What programmes are we putting in place? Because we are looking at some people who are now just 16 years old going back. And we need to ensure that those types of graduates are able to smoothly transition into wor kforce. And I believe it is incumbent upon education.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes, thank you. That is wh ere some of the Career Pathways go in tandem with doing enrolment. And a lot of what is being done with these students is they have been working with industry partners to provide support for them, to provide mentorship, …
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Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes, thank you. That is wh ere some of the Career Pathways go in tandem with doing enrolment. And a lot of what is being done with these students is they have been working with industry partners to provide support for them, to provide mentorship, and to give them e mployment opportun ities. Now, all of these students who have graduated with the Dual Enrolment Programme at this point are continuing on with their tertiary education. But it is something that we recognise that we have an opportunity for them. We are going to continue to do more to ensure that our children have the opportunity. And while I am on that, with the Career Pat hways, our goal is to actually even push that further down into the middle schools so we start seeing some more opportunities even from there.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Yes, MP Foggo. Supplementary?
Ms. Lovitta F. FoggoMinister, are you aware, for instance, with the nursing programme, those who have graduated with the associate’s degree are not able to secure employment in spite of the fact we have a Bermuda Hospitals Board being on board with that? Their associate’s degrees are not being recognised.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes. Just to clarify th at and make the Member and the public aware, actually, especially with nursing, having an Associate’s Degree in Nursing is just the first step. You have the licensing as well, and I believe the licensing tests are coming up very …
Minister. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes. Just to clarify th at and make the Member and the public aware, actually, especially with nursing, having an Associate’s Degree in Nursing is just the first step. You have the licensing as well, and I believe the licensing tests are coming up very shortly. I think there was about a four -to-six-week delay from when the associate was actually given to the next sitting of that [exam] would be. And for nur sing, you actually . . . the next step is to be licensed by passing those exams. And then you are golden. So I do not think there will be an issue once the people who have successfully completed the associate’s degree successfully pass their licensing.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Minister. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 29, MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. SUPPLEMENTARY Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Minister, you said you have been working with stakeholders to give and get employment opportunities. Can you tell us who some of those stakeholders are, please?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes. Well, the obvious ones with regard to the international business are ABIC and ABIR. The Insurance Institute has been involved. So we recognise that the opportunity with these students is to provide them support right in the areas of which they would ultimately like …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The Chair will recognise the Member from constituency 6, MP Furbert. Do you have a suppl ementary? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Minister, you talked about the GPA was between 2.25—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThis is a new question, Honourable Member. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. Sorry.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerWell, you are not down to ask the ques tion. Hon. Wayne L. Fur bert: Well, supplementary.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerHonourable Member, please take your seat. Please take your seat. Yes. MP Foggo, you have the floor.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. All right. QUESTION 2 : 2016 SENIOR SCHOOL GRADU ATIONS
Ms. Lovitta F. FoggoMr. Speaker, I would like to know from the Minister what the average GPA is for those schools with their graduates, the average. You say that it ranges from a 2.25 and higher. So what is the overall average for our graduates?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. R. Wayne Sco tt: Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information. I can say that, you know, between our two schools, we had a couple of hundred children who actually graduated, which was really good to see. The average GPA throughout every last student? I do not …
Minister.
Hon. R. Wayne Sco tt: Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information. I can say that, you know, between our two schools, we had a couple of hundred children who actually graduated, which was really good to see. The average GPA throughout every last student? I do not have that information. The intent of my Statement was to highlight the achievements, to talk about some of the good things happening. I do not have a forensic accounting breakdown of all that information for the Member from constituency 6, who is really asking that question, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Yes, the Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 13. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Diallo V. S. RabainThank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Minister should be aware that last year’s results issued that exact information that my colleague asked for. So the question that I am asking as a supplemental is, will the Ministry commit to producing these reports, using standardised repor ting so we can compare …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Minister should be aware that last year’s results issued that exact information that my colleague asked for. So the question that I am asking as a supplemental is, will the Ministry commit to producing these reports, using standardised repor ting so we can compare year to year? Instead of co ming with reports that just are highlighting the best of the results, instead of giving us the entire picture?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Minister. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Mr. Speaker, referring back to that Member’s own information, the Ministry does pr oduce that information. I do not have that with me with this Ministerial Statement, as I thought I clearly artic ulated. But these are things that the Ministry does routinely produce. …
Yes. Minister.
Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Mr. Speaker, referring back to that Member’s own information, the Ministry does pr oduce that information. I do not have that with me with this Ministerial Statement, as I thought I clearly artic ulated. But these are things that the Ministry does routinely produce. If not, he would not have had the i nformation that he just talked about from last year.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSo you are saying that is in the— Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Absolutely. These things have happened, Mr. Speaker; they will continue to happen.
Mr. Diallo V. S. RabainMr. Sp eaker, will the Minister commit to bring that information to this House next week?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. 2300 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of As sembly Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Mr. Speaker, I will bring that information to the House as soon as it is available to me. As I also stated in my Statement, I w ill make a point to keep …
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Bermuda House of As sembly Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Mr. Speaker, I will bring that information to the House as soon as it is available to me. As I also stated in my Statement, I w ill make a point to keep the public and this House updated on our students’ achievements. As a matter of fact, the next thing I will probably be talking about is some of the achievements we are doing with our STEM pr ogramme, because we actually have just f inished some training. We actually have students who are starting next week on programme —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Member. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Good things, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. The Chair will now recogni se the Honourable Member from constituency 29. You have a question? QUESTION 1 : 2016 SENIOR SCHOOL GRADU ATIONS Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Minister, very good news indeed. What I would like to ask you, though, is do …
Thank you. The Chair will now recogni se the Honourable Member from constituency 29. You have a question?
QUESTION 1 : 2016 SENIOR SCHOOL GRADU ATIONS
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Minister, very good news indeed. What I would like to ask you, though, is do you have the number of students who failed this year, and what are you as a Minister planning to do to . . . do you have any priority in helping those who may have fallen short of their graduation?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, MP De Silva. Minister. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I want to answer that question this way, and I will refer to the Ministerial Statement, where it outlined that with one of the schools there were 22 students who actually did not graduate, but …
All right. Thank you, MP De Silva. Minister. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I want to answer that question this way, and I will refer to the Ministerial Statement, where it outlined that with one of the schools there were 22 students who actually did not graduate, but will be eligible to once they complete the summer school. So we actually provide every o pportunity. And it is our hope that every child reaches his or her potential and graduates. And we do provide that help. And we need to continue to do that. So we do have a lot of positive things. Unfortunately , Mr. Speaker, we hear of the 10 per cent dysfunction, and that tends to be our view of public school. And that is not the case, and that is the main intention of being here today —to let Members and the public know that there are good things. And we will c ontinue to work toward 100 per cent attainment of these goals, which is a lofty goal, but that is what we would love to see.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, thank you. MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, and a suppl ementary, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Minister, you said that one school had 22. You did not give the number, I do not think, for the other school. But just if we use that 22 for an example, will you as the Minister be pushing these 22? Because, …
Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Minister, you said that one school had 22. You did not give the number, I do not think, for the other school. But just if we use that 22 for an example, will you as the Minister be pushing these 22? Because, as we know, our young people, sometimes, when they get out of the arena, you have lost them for good. So, Minister, what I ask is, that those who have failed, will they be under any, for lack of a better word, pressure from you as the Minister or your Ministry to encourage them to try and get the percentage they need to succeed thereafter?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister? Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes, it is a good question, Mr. Speaker. And I pointed to one school. The other school, off the top of my head, I believ e there were seven or so. In all instances, all of these kids have the opportunity and are being encouraged …
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Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Yes, it is a good question, Mr. Speaker. And I pointed to one school. The other school, off the top of my head, I believ e there were seven or so. In all instances, all of these kids have the opportunity and are being encouraged to complete the summer school so they can achieve that. This is where, however, Mr. Speaker, we need to get all of us involved and the public invol ved and families involved because, you know, the Ministry of Education has a legal remit up to a certain point. And there is only so much we can do. As the comm unity and as families, we need to also encourage our children to not give up and continue to pur sue. As we talked about a couple of weeks ago with some of the alternative education that we had graduations for, this is a perfect example of students who, for whatever reason, came off the normal course. But that term is also relative. They stuck with it ; they were able to achieve; and there were many reasons why these kids were not able to complete their degrees in school. But there are alternatives. So, as a community, Mr. Speaker, I think it is important for all of us to encourage our students to not give up, because there are many avenues to achieve success.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yes, the Chair will recognise MP Foggo. You have another question?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 1 : 2016 SENIOR SCHOOL GRADU ATIONS
Ms. Lovitta F. FoggoMinister, keeping in mind the legalities that now allow students to remain in school up unt il the age of 18, for those who do reach the graduation requirements and are able to graduate, like I said, at the age of 16 or so, and are not able to move …
Minister, keeping in mind the legalities that now allow students to remain in school up unt il the age of 18, for those who do reach the graduation requirements and are able to graduate, like I said, at the age of 16 or so, and are not able to move on to tertiary education for whatever reason —let us say, for lack of funding— is there something in place by the Ministry, since they are legally able to stay in school (for free) that will assist these students to be able to continue, given that legally they can remain in school up until age 18? Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, Minister. Hon. R. Wayne Sco tt: Yes. I think, Mr. Speaker, we are getting way off the scope here into legal defin itions of stuff. But I think I know where you are going with that. And there are many opportunities with scholarships that are offered by the Government, …
Yes, Minister. Hon. R. Wayne Sco tt: Yes. I think, Mr. Speaker, we are getting way off the scope here into legal defin itions of stuff. But I think I know where you are going with that. And there are many opportunities with scholarships that are offered by the Government, which I would lik e to see significantly modified so that we can provide a lot more opportunities for students even through our own Bermuda College. I think we have opportunities as a community that we have not fully recognised. And I will certainly do my part to try to see how we can get as many children who want to continue their education to continue their education.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Thank you, Mini ster. That completes our Question Period. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll righ t. Thank you. The Chair will recognise first the Honourable Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning with, I am sure, the full support of honourable colleagues in the House to pay a brief tribute to a tr ue public …
All righ t. Thank you. The Chair will recognise first the Honourable Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning with, I am sure, the full support of honourable colleagues in the House to pay a brief tribute to a tr ue public servant, a fearless advocate and a woman of high ideals and values, a former colleague of some of ours in the House, the Honourable Ann Cartwright De Couto, who passed away recently. As you said, Mr. Speaker, the former Honourable Member served f rom 1980 to 1998. Mr. Speaker, I think when people reflect back on Ann Cartwright De Couto, the first thing that comes to many people’s mind is the 1990 policy banning use of fish pots in Bermuda. I can simply say about that period in time that the former Honourable Member was a lady who was not for turning at any time. She took some serious public condemnation for her stance in this area, but at the end of the day, her spirit cer-tainly exemplified some qualities that she carried with her through all her l ife—strength, commitment to her principle, and one of the things that I always got a chuckle from was her razor -sharp wit. And now, as we look back on that policy some 16, 17 years, we see that it was the right thing to do. Mr. Speaker, I honestly believ e that first and foremost in Ann Cartwright De Couto’s character was her loyalty to the people of Bermuda in every stand that she took. I also recall her stand against the franchise Bill, which I believe, Mr. Speaker, she fought all the way to the Privy Council. And at the time, when asked about it, she said it was simply the right thing to do and in the best interests of all of the people of Bermuda. She was certainly a very formidable Member of this House and came prepared for every debate. And I have to say she did not suffer fools gladly. I can recall, in an era when politics were less personal, she counted amongst her personal friends a former Member, the Honourable Dame Lois BrowneEvans, and Honourable Member L. F. Wade, and could often be seen in th e recreation areas of the House holding court and talking about issues. And in spite of their being on the other side of the political fence and having fierce debates, she always conducted herself in a most appropriate manner. Mr. Speaker, I can remember very clearly the debate on capital punishment that went all through the night and into the early morning. And when you get into those long debates, obviously, Mr. Speaker, they drag on and you are with colleagues for a long period of time and there are man y interesting speeches. And all of a sudden, Ann Cartwright De Couto disa ppeared. No one knew where she was. She came back at about 5:30 in the morning fresh, proper, with a new red dress on, and stood back to her feet, where the Honourable Deputy Speaker stands at this time, and gave one of the most scintillating speeches that I have ever heard in my life—full of wit, full of very sharp points. And even at six o’clock in the morning, it captured the attention of everyone in this Honourable House who was pa ying attention at the time. She certainly had a way about her. And outside of the House, Mr. Speaker, the former Member served with distinction in a family law practice. There were many people who were facing spousal problems and they ran to her to be the first in the door to deal with her. And she certainly cast her-self to be in a position of prominence in that area. She was a mother, a family member and a matriarch in the family. On behalf of all of the colleagues in the House, I would like to send condolences to the family during this most difficult period, from Members of the House and the people of Bermuda. Thank you, sir.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Thank you, Pr emier. 2302 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of As sembly The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 5, MP D. V. Burgess. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like for this …
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Bermuda House of As sembly The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 5, MP D. V. Burgess.
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like for this House to send condolences to the family of Mrs. Ruby Woolridge. You would probably know (but if you do not), Ruby Woolridge was the niece of L. Frederic k Wade, and also the mother of Ricky Woolridge, a lawyer, Mr. Speaker, and a long- time member of the PLP and ce rtainly a long- time member of the Bermuda Industrial Union. She was fearless and a strong supporter of the Progressive Labour Party. I would like to associate the Premier, Michael Dunkley, and the entire House. Also, Mr. Speaker, I would like to send congratulations out to Nirobi Mills. He is from Hamilton Parish. He is 13 years old. He has been selected to go to England in the Under -14 cricket team, and also the Under -17. He is the youngest Bermudian to be selected in the Under -17 squad, at 13 years old, Mr. Speaker, and one of the youngest in the world to be selected in the Under -17 team for the ICC tournament, which will be held in Texas. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Economic Development, Dr. Grant Gibbons. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to ask that the House send congratulations to the African Methodist Episcopal Church on their bicentennial celebrations, …
Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Economic Development, Dr. Grant Gibbons.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to ask that the House send congratulations to the African Methodist Episcopal Church on their bicentennial celebrations, which start, as you probably know, Mr. Speaker, this weekend in Philadelphia. With your permission, I just wanted to give a couple of comments from their actual celebratory note that went out with some history. “It was in 1816 that the African Methodist Episcopal Church became the first denomination organised by people of African descent to be incorporated in the United States. That year, Richard Allen, because he became its first elected and consecrated Bishop, the AME Church is unique in that it is the first major religious denomination in the Western World to be established as a response to sociological rather than theological differences. It was born as a protest against racial discrimination and slavery; today, the AME church has members in 20 Episcopal districts located in 39 countries on 5 continents. The denom ination’s commitment to serve the needs of people worldwide is administered by 21 active bishops and 9 general officers who manage t he departments of the church.” Mr. Speaker, I am sure I can associate the whole House in extending congratulations, given the significant influence and contribution that the African Methodist Episcopal Church has made in Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, while on my feet, I would also like to be associated with the condolences to the fam-ily of the late Ann Cartwright De Couto. The Honourable Premier used the words, The lady is not retur ning. I would have said, the Iron Lady . As you will know, Mr. Speaker, I was occasionally on the wrong side of the debate as far as she was concerned. The McDonald’s, and the Prohibited Restaurants Bill, was quite a passionate and active debate. But I will say that she was a constituent of mine and was very supportive in later years, although we did obviously di sagree on the Prohibited Restaurants Bill. Members on this side often got phone calls from Ann, and she usually had a piece of advice, or something stronger, to give to us. But suffice it to say she was certainly a passionate politician, clearly, clearly someone who spoke on what she believed in and someone who made a huge contribution to Ber-muda, not only in the fish pot ban, but certainly in other areas as well. And I would ask that condolences be sent to her family, sons, Doug [and Jesse]. Mr. Speaker, while I am on my feet, I would also like to ask that condolences be sent to the family of the late Heather Correia. Honourable Members will know Heather Correia as the spouse of the lat e Allan Correia, who ran the Parakeet Restaurant for many, many years. A lovely lady has been taken before her time, but we would ask that condolences be sent to her two children, Jonathan and Allison, but a very nice person indeed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Minister. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 6, MP Wayne Furbert. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the comments in regards t o Ann Cartwright De Couto. The time of her death at …
Thank you, Honourable Minister. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 6, MP Wayne Furbert.
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the comments in regards t o Ann Cartwright De Couto. The time of her death at 71, as far as I am concerned, is very young. I was fortunate myself. Definitely the Honourable Grant Gibbons and I believe the Honourable Bob Richards served with her in Cabinet at the time. And the Honourable Member is definitely right. She was very fiery in those locations. I remember particularly the McDonald’s franchise situa-tion because the Honourable Member Grant Gibbons was the Minister of Finance, and trying to figure out a way of how to . . . at those times, the argument was that franchises could not be brought into Bermuda, mainly because of how our money policies were concerned. Of course, Grant found a loophole , and was able to find a way to get it here.
[Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: But Ann Cartwright De Couto was very serious about fighting this issue, as you will recall. As a matter of fact, her best debates were when she came back after lunch, having had a
Bermuda House of Assembly little ginger ale. She sat in that corner, right ther e where the Honourable Suzann Roberts -Holshouser [sits], and made her great speech on McDonald’s. And she called it the mother of all franchises. And she said that if it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck, then it is a duck. And so, that is why we have the franchise law [Prohibited Restaurant Act 1997] today. But you may not also remember that she was trying to build some apartments, suggested building apartments at Back o’ Town for our foreign workers, which set off a firestorm in that circle. The y felt they were putting all the international business in an area all by themselves. But she was very bold. She also was the one who pushed the Honourable Member, the Premier at the time, John Swan, in bringing a Bill for the referendum, Bill for independence. I guess she thought Sir John was not going to bring it. She said, You’d better bring that Bill before I pass it , and he brought the referendum Bill and did the referendum Bill on independence. Then it formed other groups after that which caused a storm in Bermuda. But she will definitely be remembered for her fiery remarks in this House. She always was the one who mainly responded to the Opposition in regard to the Budget. And she did not mince her words. She hardly ever used notes. But Ann Cartwright De Couto will be missed, and I send my condolences to her fa mily and congratulate her for the service that she has done over the years, for Bermuda in particular. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honour able Member from constituency 2, MP Nandi Outerbridge.
Mrs. Nandi OuterbridgeMr. Speaker, I rise this morning to ask that this Honourable House send congratul ations to all of the young athletes who partic ipated in the Clarien Iron Kids race this past Saturday. I was in attendance with my colleagues, MP Leah Scott and MP Susan Jackson. And even though …
Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to ask that this Honourable House send congratul ations to all of the young athletes who partic ipated in the Clarien Iron Kids race this past Saturday. I was in attendance with my colleagues, MP Leah Scott and MP Susan Jackson. And even though it was scorching hot down there, everyone seemed to have such a great time. I think the most popular race, Mr. Speaker, was the three- to six -year-olds, the Tiny Tots—watching them run from out of the water and take it so serious, getting on their bikes and then ru nning to the finish line. But I just want to recogni se the Tot Females with the fastest times, and they were Miss Jessie Marshall, Miss M eghan Hann and Miss Amber Simons. And the top fastest males were Mr. Nicholas Pilgrim, Mr. Tommy Marshall and Yaneek Pilliar. During the presentation, they also made r emarks that this is the race that started off the likes of Flora Duffy and Tyler Butterfield. So we will be looking out for all of these young athletes in the future, Mr. Speaker, as they represent Bermuda, as they go on to represent Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 24, MP Lawrence Scott.
Mr. W. Lawrence ScottThank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to ask this Honourable House to send a letter of congratulations to the Alpha Phi Alpha Frater-nity, Incorporated, Epsilon Beta Lambda Chapter . . . of which I am a member; I declare my interest. And we had our annual Alphas versus Kappas Football …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to ask this Honourable House to send a letter of congratulations to the Alpha Phi Alpha Frater-nity, Incorporated, Epsilon Beta Lambda Chapter . . . of which I am a member; I declare my interest. And we had our annual Alphas versus Kappas Football Match last week, Mr. Speaker. And although I was not able to play because I was debating the Civil Aviation Authority Act, we ended up winning 3- nothing. This is our second year in a row. So we are two-time champions and curr ent champions. The first goal was scored by Brother Quinelle Robinson. The second goal was scored by Brother Zory Darrell . And the third goal, Mr. Speaker, now that is a special one because it was a tag team because it was between our all -time leading assist player, Brother Shannon Dyer . And the third goal was scored by Brother A nthony Davi s, who beat former Bermuda National Keeper Nigel Burgess with a shot in the upper 90. Mr. Speaker, that was an exciting game there. And I also have to send a letter of congratul ations to the keeper, Brother Jason Wade, who actually took my place. I usuall y am the starting keeper there. But because I was doing my constitutional duties here with the Honourable Minister Grant Gibbons and gi ving him a hard time on the floor here, Jason Wade was giving them a hard time on the National St adium’s carpet there, where he even stopped a penalty shot by their all -time leading scorer, who is Nigel Burgess there, as well. The main thing is that this was not just for bragging rights. It is also a charity match, where we, as the two fraternal organisations here, the Alph as and the Kappas, give back to local schools and char ities. What we did is we raised $1,000, and we gave the proceeds to Port Royal Primary School. And we also gave it to Matilda Smith Williams Rest Home. So once again, I would like to congratulate my fraternal brothers. And I think I can associate the fraternal brothers who are in the House here, and also Coach James Howard. He did a good job. And every Alpha Brother played, and every Alpha Brother played well, so we won 3- nothing. I think they should soon change the name of the Kappa Classic to the Alpha Classic, or maybe we can give them some lessons on how to play some football.
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Bermuda House of As sembly Mr. W. Lawrence Scott: So we look forward to beating them next year, Mr. Speaker. And thank you very much.
The S peaker: All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 4, the Deputy Speaker.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -HolshouserThank you, Mr. Speaker. (I am being blown away. I think I will walk over a little bit to my left.)
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -HolshouserThank you, and good morning. I would like the House to recognise not only the hard work that the Coalition for the Protection of Children have put in over the many, many years, but certainl y to take this opportunity, Mr. Speaker, to recognise one Kelly Hunt. And I would …
Thank you, and good morning. I would like the House to recognise not only the hard work that the Coalition for the Protection of Children have put in over the many, many years, but certainl y to take this opportunity, Mr. Speaker, to recognise one Kelly Hunt. And I would believe that probably the whole House would like to recognise Kelly Hunt as the new Executive Director, taking over from Sheelagh Cooper. This is a non- governmental independe nt organisation. They have not received funding, to keep their independence strong. They are certainly one of the most important child advocate or-ganisations in Bermuda. Enough cannot be said about the individual, Kelly Hunt, who has put her heart into her family, her own two children and towards the hearts of our children. We often say, ourselves, how the children are our main responsibility because they are our future. But if it were not for the programmes that are esta blished and put in, and the advocac y supplied by the Coalition and the likes of Kelly Hunt, we would be no further ahead, Mr. Speaker. They have fought dil igently for years. Kelly Hunt is not only a Certified Family Mediator . . . And the House, of course, would recognise that one of the pi eces of legislation that we passed in this Honourable House was to recognise the importance of mediation, and mediation to keep our families together. It is not the intent of the Coal ition for the Protection of Children to divide families, but to bring them together. Kelly Hunt also has the capabilities, the knowledge and the expertise to focus on children who have experienced sexual abuse and intervention. And I see other Members putting their hands up, but I will point out this is going to come from the whole House. Mr. Speaker, again, I need not speak about my feel-ings on child abuse victims. But they have an adv ocate here under the Coalition for the Protection of Children. And I ask that we sincerely continue to recognise the hard work and applaud the l ikes of Kelly Hunt, of course recognising Sheelagh Cooper. But we look forward to supporting Kelly in her endeavours as she continues to be an advocate, as with the Coalition for the Children of Bermuda. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 17, MP Walton Brown.
Mr. Walton BrownMr. Speaker, I wish to be assoc iated with the c ondolences sent to the family of the late Honourable Ann Cartwright De Couto. In an era when more and more politicians seem not to act on a consistent set of principles, the Honourable Member cer-tainly did so on a …
Mr. Speaker, I wish to be assoc iated with the c ondolences sent to the family of the late Honourable Ann Cartwright De Couto. In an era when more and more politicians seem not to act on a consistent set of principles, the Honourable Member cer-tainly did so on a consistent basis. Her action, I con-clude, regarding fish pots was singularly responsible for revitalising our fish stock. And she should be rec-ognised for that. We had a difference of view when it came to the question of independence. But the Honourable Member was kind and gracious enough to serv e on any panel to discuss the issue that my committee, the Committee for the Independence of Bermuda, organised to have such discussions. So she spoke consi stently on her principles. She was a fierce advocate. And we need more people to be consistent. We need more people to advocate based on their principles, and then we will have a much more vibrant political arena. Mr. Speaker, on a more positive note, I would like to recognise the tremendous accomplishment of the Leroyfest, which came to an end last Sat urday. I know the Honourable Member, Jeff Sousa, sent co ngratulatory comments a few weeks ago, but he did not attend the concluding session, the concluding concert on Saturday night. It was truly a spectacular perfor mance, and it demonstrated the tremendous talent that we have in Bermuda. Honourable Member Susan Jackson wishes to be associated. Taylor Rankin is an amazing musician. He had onstage Joy Barnum, whose voice is intoxicating, and her stage presence is mesmerising. We have an abundance of talent in this country, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to put into the record the individuals who actually contributed towards the success of this amazing event. So, we have Taylor Rankin, Joy Barnum, Derek Simmons, Jahroy Richards , Rowdy Piper, Septimus, Yesha Towns end, Mak eem, and Aden Pee ts. Mr. Speaker, if we can marshal this talent that we have and use it consistently to promote a sense of cultural vibrancy in this country, we will move ourselves to a much better space and we will recognise the talent that we have and promote it on a sustained basis. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair will recognise the Minister for Health and Seniors. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to have congratul ations sent out to two young people, the first to be sent to Sam Dill. And …
Thank you, Honourable Member.
Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair will recognise the Minister for Health and Seniors.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to have congratul ations sent out to two young people, the first to be sent to Sam Dill. And if any of you have recently read the newspaper article, Sam was a former Warwick Academy student who won the final year project in Brunel University, being selected for the New Designers 2016 exhibition. And I think what is so important about the recipient was the fact that it is showcasing UK desig ners, but also he designed something called “ Eyeassistant,” which is a modular, wireless camera system. And I must admit, for people like me who are nearsighted, when you read that and realise that all the opportunities for enhancement and for people who have visual impairment, all the possibilities that this unlocked, not only was I proud for his being a Bermudian, but I was also proud of the fact that for people who have visual impairment, this is going to unlock something more for them. The second congratulations, Mr. Speaker, I would like to have sent is to Brittany Wolffe. Brittany is a young fashion designer, who has been fortunate to win an internship with the Interview Magazine in New York. And I must admit, when you look at Brittany and you see some of the things and some of her designs, I think, as she indicated— and I am saying to myself, She’s talking about persons who w ear her designs are people who are not afraid to take chances. And I must admit, for a woman to have something that is unique and something different, it is intriguing. I am looking forward to see some more of the things that she pr oduces. So, Mr. Speaker , here we have a young man and a young woman, both of whom are doing things, setting Bermuda on the map. And I must admit, for me, and hearing Minister Scott earlier, we have so many young people out there, this is just another ex-ample of Bermudians moving forward in a positive way. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Minister. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 13, MP Diallo Rabain.
Mr. Diallo V. S. RabainThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I woul d like congratulations sent to the school, Creative Touch. I attended their gradu ation, the first time I have attended a graduation of a nursery school. But it was actually phenomenal. The actual school was actually phenomenal, not just the graduation. But …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I woul d like congratulations sent to the school, Creative Touch. I attended their gradu ation, the first time I have attended a graduation of a nursery school. But it was actually phenomenal. The actual school was actually phenomenal, not just the graduation. But they brought back previous students to speak. And I was just totally blown away at the level of organisation that was brought with that. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to add my congratulations to the Alpha versus Kappa classic. Just to add to my colleag ue, I am not sure that colleagues are aware that the competition is actually a memorial competition to two Members who did sit within these walls, Mr. Larry Lowe and Mr. Nelson Bascome. It is played in recognition of the contributions that they made to the community as a whole. Mr. Speaker, I normally do not do birthday wishes, but I would like to have birthday congratul ations sent to my grandmother, who turned 86. As you know, some relatives are very special within you. My grandmother is one who has been with me, she looked after me from being first born, and has been there for every single milestone that I have accomplished in my life. And it is very special to me to be able to wish her Happy Birthday from these Chambers, because I know she listens not on ly to when I was in the other place, but she listens to the proceedings up here as well. And lastly, Mr. Speaker, congratulations sent to the Bermuda Football Association for the Under - 20s victory over Cayman Islands, their 2- nothing vi ctory. They are mov ing along quite well in this compet ition, and I wish them all the best with the rest of the games they have to play. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable and Learned Att orney General, Trevor Moniz. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to rise to join in sending the condolence of the House to the family of Ann …
All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable and Learned Att orney General, Trevor Moniz.
Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to rise to join in sending the condolence of the House to the family of Ann Car twright De Couto. As Members will know, she was a great friend of mine over the years. People may not know that I first went to work for Ann in 1980 when I first came back to Bermuda, and worked for her for two years at that time. But I first heard of her when I was going off as a law student and probably around 1972, I went to work. I took a gap year and worked with Appleby, where she had worked and had just left. And she was iconic even at that time, because she had excelled in, I think it was the bar ex-aminations for England and Wales. She had come second, I think the highest any Bermudian has ever achieved. And she was very highly rated. She attended University College in London. She had a scholarship from the Inns of Court. She did her pupi llage with some very famous people, Leon Brittan; people like Sir Michael Tugendhat , who is now High Court Judge—just a list of names from Brit Court. So she was a high- flyer even in the UK. She came back to Bermuda to make a contr ibution here, which she did both in matrimonial law in the legal field, which she always kept up. She was t he leading advocate in the courts, and also in her public life as a politician. She was Ann Frith Cartwright in her 2306 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly legal practice and Ann Cartwright De Couto in this Chamber. She was a very strong individual, a very, very bright individual, and there was never any subterfuge about her. She was straight -up in everything she did, and she would put you in your place extremely quickly if she thought you were out of line, as she thought I was on any number of occasions. Certainly, when she hired me, we immediately had differences of opinion, because in 1980 she was elected and very soon became a Minister in the Go vernment. When I came back, my specialty was in i mmigration law and judicial review, and I immediately began suing the Government and had the thenMinister of Immigration, John Swan, on the witness stand downstairs. And I was suing the Bermuda Regiment over conscription. And I was working with Wendell Hollis, who was an officer in the Regiment, and with Ann Cartwright, who was a Minister in the Government. And we always had a very cordial and professional relationship in spite of any differences of opi nion we had. So it was much later that we came to serve in the House together. And certainly, in 1989, she specifically reached out to me and suggested I join the UBP and get involved in politics and in public life. And I followed her advice and have been involved ever since. So I ask that the House send condolences. My father was the first cousin to her husband, Roddy, and Roddy’s brother, his portrait is on the wall here. Ernest De Couto was a Speaker of the House. So Ernest and Roddy were cousins of mine, although I did not know them when I was growing up. And the children of Ann and Roddy whom they had together, Douglas De Couto and Jesse De Couto, are my se cond cousins. So I send them and their wives and their children my condolences. She was an exceptional individual. Certainly what she did with respect to fish pots was absolutely incredible. And at that time, she was marched upon and received all sort s of threats. And she certainly was an Iron Lady in that regard. And it stood the test of time, as Honourable Members have said. It was quite outstanding. So I would just like those to be sent. I would like to say, I have been asked to speak at the funeral, which is on Wednesday coming at Saint Ann’s Church in Southampton, where she comes from. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Attorney General. The Chair will now recognise the Whip, from constituency 3, MP Lovitta Foggo.
Ms. Lovitta F. FoggoThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just want to formally send out congratulatory remarks to the schools, the Berkeley Institute, CedarBridge Academy and Clearwater Mi ddle School, for the excellent performances that have been exhibited by their graduates. And on that note, Mr. Speaker, because we have already heard …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, MP Foggo. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from consti tuency 29. MP Zane De Silva, you have the floor. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like this Honourable House to send congratulations to …
All right. Thank you, MP Foggo. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from consti tuency 29. MP Zane De Silva, you have the floor.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like this Honourable House to send congratulations to Dr. Donal Smith. He recently attended the [UNESCO] International Conf erence on Safeguarding African World Heritage as a Driver of Sustainable Development that was on May 31 st to June 4th in Tanzania, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, also, it is the first time that a brother from the African Diaspora has returned to the mother country, Africa, to support them. And this was welcomed wholeheartedly by many who attended this confer-ence, Mr. Speaker. And of course, Dr. Smith went on to give a presentation on the Transmissions Depar tment over at the Transport Control Department. And that was well received by many, Mr. Speaker. So if we could do that, I think that it would be well deserved. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minister of Public —excuse me, the Mini ster for Home Affairs. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That, too. [Laughter] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Mr. Speaker, it would be remiss of me …
Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minister of Public —excuse me, the Mini ster for Home Affairs. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That, too. [Laughter] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Mr. Speaker, it would be remiss of me to not stand to my feet to join in the condolence remarks being sent to the family of the late Ann Cartwright De Couto. You know, there are times when, as Members of this Honourable House, there are people to whom you look for not just guidance, but people whom you want to emulate. And I remember before coming here, having seen Ann Cartwright De Couto in full stride in this Honourable House, especially during the fish pots ban situation. It was something to behold. And I looked at that and thought if I ever went to that place, that is the kind of representation that I would want to give—bold and assertive and confident. And those were three words that I believe that explained who Ann Cartwright De Couto was. You know, what is interesting is very shortly after the loss of the United Bermuda Party in 1998, there was a by -election as the result of the death of the Paget West MP, Madeline Joell, who passed away in February of 1999. And her seat, once it became
Bermuda House of Assembly vacant, you will recall that Ms. Cartwright De Couto actually represented Pembroke West Central prior to the 1998 election. She lost her seat at that time. So when the Paget West seat became available, Ann Cartwright De Couto and I actually contested that constituency in a sort of a mini -primary for the right to represent that constituency in this Honourable House. Needless to say, at the end of the . . . when all was said and done, I was successful. And I knew that the example that I had watched in Ann as she travelled the halls and the highways and byways of this House, that I was able to have an example that I could emulate. And what was very interesting to me, when I knew that all was well between her and me, there was no negative fallout as a result of my being successful in winning that seat, was one morning to hear my telephone ring at home. And on the other end of the phone was Ann Cartwright De Couto, calling me and congratulating me for a particular stand that I had taken on a debate that we had in the House of A ssembly. And I knew at that point, Mr. Speaker, that if I could have been half the person in putt ing in the effort to the point that I could be recognised by somebody whom I admired tremendously, then I thought that I had a reasonably good chance of being successful in this Honourable House. So I am appreciative to her for the example that she set. I am grateful to her for the example that she led. And I am saddened for her family on her very early passing, because at the age of 71, I think that that is really quite young.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerVery young. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I know that, as a youngster, I used to look up to people. You know, at 50 I thought that they were ancient. But now, you know, when you get closer and closer to that age, 71 is very, very young. And I …
Very young.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I know that, as a youngster, I used to look up to people. You know, at 50 I thought that they were ancient. But now, you know, when you get closer and closer to that age, 71 is very, very young. And I certainly pass on my cond olences to her sons. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you very much. Thank you. Would any other Honourable Members care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Minister for the Environment. Minister Cole Simons, you have the floor. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker , I rise this morning to send co ngratulatory …
Thank you very much. Thank you. Would any other Honourable Members care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Minister for the Environment. Minister Cole Simons, you have the floor.
Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker , I rise this morning to send co ngratulatory remarks to Sandys Middle School on their STEM programme, the AquaFarm. I was there a few days ago, and I was amazed to see how such an int egrated system was working. I want to particularly commend Dr. [Timothy] Jackson, the Principal; and young Andreas Glasgow and Mr. Felicci. This pr ogramme basically teaches the science, technology, engineering and math programmes. And it teaches students about biology; it teaches them about entr e-preneurship; it teaches them hands -on experience; it teaches them responsibility about marine biology. And amazingly, this programme has been going for six years. And there is an integrated business model that they have working there. They access fish. They basically cull, and sell off to Woody’s for their fish sandwiches. So it is amazing. I had some of the fish that they culled, and it is a new breed of Bermuda fish. It was Tilapia grown and harvested there at Sandys. So to that school, I commend them for this STEM pr oject, and I hope that other schools will follow in this initiative. I would like to also commend the team of the Spirit of Bermuda. They won the tradition class for last week’s Newport –Bermuda race. In particular, I would like to commend Captain Stuart Birnie, and navigat or Larry Rosenfeld; the watch leaders, Jay Kempe and Alan Burland. And I would just like to mention they won against the schooner, America. And this is bas ically one of the fastest schooners in the class in the world, and they were able to beat them. So I salute them. As for the Honourable Ann Cartwright De Couto, as was said earlier, she was a trailblazer. I put her in the same category as Lois Browne- Evans and Shirley Simmons. They were probably the first three ladies to be registered in the Bar in Bermuda. And she is up there with them. She was just as tenacious. She was a craftsman when it comes to English language. She was a first -class debater. And as was said about the fish pot ban, she was tenacious, and she stood up to everyone, because she believed in doing the right thing for the environment. And we have the results to prove that. As for her matrimonial practice, I have to smile because the wives would go to Ann Cartwright. She would act on their behalf. And the guys would just run the other way because they said, This woman is coming, and she is coming like a pit bull. And they were just like horrified that their spouse, or wife, would get Ann Cartwright De Couto to represent them, because they knew that with her at the bat, they did not stand a chance. So, to Jesse, to Douglas, you have my sympathy. And your mother was a well -respected community person. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Members care to speak? So that will conclude Congratulatory and/or Obituary Speeches. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS 2308 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of As sembly The Speaker: There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Chair will recognise the Honourable Premier, Premier Michael Dunkley. FIRST READINGS POLICE AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Premier. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Finance, Minister E. T. Richards. PENSION TRUST FUNDS AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper …
Thank you, Premier. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Finance, Minister E. T. Richards. PENSION TRUST FUNDS AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Yes, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: Pension Trust Funds Amendment Act 2016.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Economic Development. Dr. the Honourable Grant Gibbons, I believe you have three. LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that …
Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Economic Development. Dr. the Honourable Grant Gibbons, I believe you have three. LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: Limited Liability Company Act 2016.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. Carry on to the next one. PERSONAL INFORMATION PROTECTI ON ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, the next one that I would like to introduce for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. And the third one? BERMUDA INTERNATIONAL INTERESTS IN M OBILE EQUIPMENT (CAPE TOWN CONVENTION) ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: And the third one, Mr. Speaker, that I would like to introduce for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order …
Thank you, Minister. And the third one? BERMUDA INTERNATIONAL INTERESTS IN M OBILE EQUIPMENT (CAPE TOWN CONVENTION) ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: And the third one, Mr. Speaker, that I would like to introduce for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting is the Bermuda Interna-tional Interests in Mobile Equipment (Cape Town Convention) Act 2016. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Dr. Gibbons. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable and Learned Attorney General. Attorney General T. G. Moniz, you have the floor. MAINTENANCE ORDERS (RECIPROCAL E NFORCEMENT) AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill …
All right. Thank you, Dr. Gibbons. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable and Learned Attorney General. Attorney General T. G. Moniz, you have the floor. MAINTENANCE ORDERS (RECIPROCAL E NFORCEMENT) AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: Maintenance Orders (R eciprocal Enforcement) Amendment Act 2016.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Attorney General. Please carry on to your next one. PROCEEDS OF CRIME AM ENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2016 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: The second Bill I am introducing for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Attorne y General. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Chair will now recognise the Minister for Home Affairs. Minister Gordon- Pamplin, you have the floor. BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION AMENDMENT (ADOPTION) ACT 2016 Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. B ermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first …
The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Home Affairs. Minister Gordon- Pamplin, you have the floor. BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION AMENDMENT (ADOPTION) ACT 2016 Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
B ermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: Bermuda Immigration and Protection Amendment (Adoption) Act 2016.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Health and Seniors. PUBLIC HEALTH AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2016 Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I am intr oducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the …
Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Health and Seniors. PUBLIC HEALTH AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2016 Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I am intr oducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: Public Health Amendment (No. 2) Act 2016.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Junior Mini ster for Tourism. K. L. Bascome, you have the floor. HOTELS CONCESSION AMEN DMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Kenneth (Kenny) Bascome: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be …
Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Junior Mini ster for Tourism. K. L. Bascome, you have the floor. HOTELS CONCESSION AMEN DMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Kenneth (Kenny) Bascome: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of sitting: Hotels Concession Amend-ment Act 2016.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Junior Minister. That concludes the Government Bills. OPPOSITION BILLS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThere are none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS CITY OF HAMILTON PLAN 2015
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Chair will recognise the Honourable Minister of the Environment, Minister N. H. C. Simons. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that at the next day of meeting, I propose to move the following motion: That this Honourable House take note of …
The Chair will recognise the Honourable Minister of the Environment, Minister N. H. C. Simons. Hon. N. H. Cole Simons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that at the next day of meeting, I propose to move the following motion: That this Honourable House take note of and approve the City of Hamilton Plan 2015. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The SpeakerThe SpeakerOrder No. 1 is carried over. Order No. 2 is carried over. And we move to the Order No. 3, Consider ation of the Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Contributions and Benefits) Order 2016, in the name of the Minister of Finance. E. T. Richards, you have the floor. Hon. E. …
Order No. 1 is carried over. Order No. 2 is carried over. And we move to the Order No. 3, Consider ation of the Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Contributions and Benefits) Order 2016, in the name of the Minister of Finance. E. T. Richards, you have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that consideration be given to the draft Order entitled the Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Contributions and Benefits) Order 2016, proposed to be made by the Minister of Finance under the pr ovision of section 37(1) of the Contributory Pensions Act 1970.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAny objections to that? Carry on, please, Minister. ORDER CONTRIBUTORY PENSIONS (AMENDMENT OF CONTRIBUTIONS AND BENEFITS) ORDER 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Contributions and Benefits) Order 2016 for consideration of this Honourable House. …
Any objections to that? Carry on, please, Minister. ORDER CONTRIBUTORY PENSIONS (AMENDMENT OF CONTRIBUTIONS AND BENEFITS) ORDER 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Contributions and Benefits) Order 2016 for consideration of this Honourable House. This is a clear indication of Government’s commitment to enhance the quality of life of our senior citizens during these economic times. Honourable Members will recall that in the 2016/17 Budget, I a dvised that pension benefits under the Contributory Pension Fund [CPF] were last increased by 3 per cent in August 2011, and that this was causing some diff iculties for some of our seniors, as other expenditures have been rising. I also announced that I would consider providing an increase in benefits after reviewing the CPF 2014 Actuary Report. Mr. Speaker, after carefully reviewing the 2014 Actuary Report, I propose to increase the Co ntributory Pension Fund benefits and contributions by 5 per cent and 7.5 per cent, respectively, effective August 2016, when benefits under the plan are trad itionally amended. Mr. Speaker, before I go into the specifics of this Order, it may be useful to elaborate on the pen-sion arrangements currently in place in Bermuda. Bermuda, like most other countries, currently provides retired individuals with a combination of social insurance from the Contributory Pension Fund and an occupational pension from their employer. In a perfect world, the social insurance should provide a first tier of basic pension, which would most likely be s upplemented by a second tier, or occupational pension. 2310 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly Through no fault of their own, currently a number of retired persons are not receiving an occ upational pension and are therefore relying on their social insurance as their sole source of income. Obv iously, Mr. Speaker, this is not an ideal situation, and the Government continues to do its utmost to ensure that seniors who rely heavily on their social insurance benefits are cared for suitably. Mr. Speaker, notwithstanding the aforementioned, the Contri butory Pension Fund benefits pr ovide an important base retirement income. Currently, the maximum pension paid under the CPF is around 25 per cent of the median annual gross earnings for Bermudians, as indicated in the Bermuda Job Market Employment Brief pr oduced by the Department of St atistics. This compares closely to the UK, where the full, basic state pension as a percentage of average earnings is around 24 per cent. Mr. Speaker, the purpose of the Order is to increase pensions and other benefits under the Con-tributory Pension Act 1970 by 5 per cent, and contr ibutions by 7.5 per cent, with effect from August of this year. The Contributory Pension Fund, in principle, r elies on current contributors, or workers, paying [for] current pensioners, and for the most part is a pay -asyou-go financed plan. However, the policy of increasing contribution rates by 2.5 per cent above the rate of pension increases has allowed a significant level of funds to build up. And thus, the plan is partially funded, which provides further security of benefits. Under section 37 of the Contributory Pension Act 1970, the Minister of Finance has the power to make an Order to revi se the rates of contributions and benefits of the Contributory Pension Fund. Mr. Speaker, there are seven types of benefits payable under the Contributory Pensions Act 1970. All of the pensions and allowances will be increased by 5 per cent. These pensions and allowances are as follows: 1. contributory old age pension; 2. contributory old age gratuity; 3. contributory widows or widowers’ allowance; 4. contributory widows or widowers’ gratuity; 5. contributory disability benefits; 6. non-contributory old age pension; and 7. non-contributory disability benefit.
Mr. Speaker, the basic contributory pension is $982.98 per month. The maximum contribution pension currently payable, which includes additional i ncrements, is approximately $1,399.14 per month. A lthough some 12,365 persons currently receive benefits under the Act, the proposed 5 per cent increase will raise the basic contributory pension to $1,029.30 per month, and the maximum benefit to about $1,469.10 per month. Approximately 29.5 per cent of the 12,365 seniors covered b y the Contributory Pe nsion Fund receive maximum pension benefits ranging from basic to the maximum. Honourable Members are advised that, based on the Consumer Price Index, the cost of living has increased by approximately 7.9 per cent since August 2011 when the last increase was granted. Although the benefit increase does not fully cover the prevailing rate of inflation, the Government is of the view that this increase should meet the important policy objectives to assist our seniors and strikes the right b alance between fiscal and social responsibility. Mr. Speaker, the 2016 Order now before the House includes an increase in the rate of contributions to the Contributory Pension Fund of 7.5 per cent. This increase in the contribution rate is based on actuari al advice and is intended to maintain the long- term v iability of the Contributory Pension Fund. The current policy is to increase contributions by 2.5 per cent more than any increase of benefits awarded. The 7.5 per cent increase represents a rise in contr ibutions of $2.40 per week, payable by the employee, and an increase of the same amount ($2.40) payable by the employer. The employer would be responsible for submitting the total weekly contribution’s increase of $4.80 and would have the authority to deduct $2.40 from each employee. Mr. Speaker, as of 31 st of March of this year, the fund has total assets of over $1.623 billion, repr esenting approximately 11.7 times the annual value of benefits paid in the Fiscal Year 2014/15. This is a relatively high leve l of funding, and when compared to 14 other regional social security schemes in a 2013 study, Bermuda’s ratio is better than nine of these countries, the average of 7.5 years. By comparison, the ratio of the Canada Pension Plan in 2013 was 4.98 years. The effect, Mr. Speaker, is that if the CPF r eceived no further contributions it could still continue to pay out pensions at the prevailing rate for some 12 years. However, the reality is that contributions will continue through time and will likely be increas ed from time to time. In addition, the prudent investment of the pension fund assets is also an important factor in the fund’s financial position. Mr. Speaker, as evidenced by the 2014 act uarial report, the viability of the fund in the short - to medium -term is good with the fund being positive for the next 25 years. However, recognising the long- term challenges of the fund, the Ministry will continue to closely monitor the performance of the fund. It should also be noted that the funding policy for the fund is not based on full actuarial funding, but based on sustai nable funding. That is, contributions plus investment income should cover benefits and administration expenses on an annual basis, while the fund builds up sufficient reserves to cover several years of benefits and expenses to withstand future adverse conditions. Mr. Speaker, despite the encouraging short -to medium -term outlook on the fund, what is clearly ev ident from the latest actuarial review is that Bermuda, like most developed countries in th e world, is faced
Bermuda House of Assembly with challenges associated with the growth of an ag eing population. During the next 50 years, the number of people over pension age of 65 is expected to i ncrease from 10,484 to 17,665, an increase of 7,181, or 68 per cent. This increase i n our seniors will obv iously place a greater strain on the country’s pension system. And it is essential that Government continue to closely monitor the performance of the fund and our overall pension arrangements to ensure pensions are set at an appropriate level. Honourable Members should note that in order to improve the projected financial position of the fund in the long term the Ministry will carefully co nsider alternative scenarios included in the report. Fol-lowing this review the Ministry, in conjun ction with the Pension and Benefits Working Group, will propose changes to the fund to ensure its sustainability in the long term. Mr. Speaker, in closing, I wish to assure Members, and more importantly current and future pensioners, that the Government is sensitive to the challenges facing pension plans of this nature and will endeavour to take the appropriate steps to enhance the benefits paid from the scheme, as well as ensure the fund has the ongoing ability to pay such benefits. Now, Mr. Speaker, I know this is an Order and not a Bill. I do not know if you want me to just go through the clauses now, or after everyone has spo-ken?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou can go through that now, and then the Members will get an opportunity to speak to the entire Order. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All right. Well, clause 1 is self -explanatory. Clause 2 amends the Contributory Pension Act 1970, and the second and third …
You can go through that now, and then the Members will get an opportunity to speak to the entire Order.
Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All right. Well, clause 1 is self -explanatory. Clause 2 amends the Contributory Pension Act 1970, and the second and third Schedules of the Act to reflect the new increases in benefits. The refer-ence to section 13(1) in the Schedule to the Order relates to non- contributory old age pensions. The reference in section 17A relates to contributory disability benefits. The reference to section 17B relates to non-contributory disability benefits. And the reference to the Second Schedule of the Act relates to the contributory old age pensions. And the reference to the third Schedule of the Act relates to widows’ allo wances. Clause 3 amends the first Schedule in the Act to reflect the new increases in contributions. And clause 4 sets the amendment date as August 16 th, 2016, for benefits and August 1st, 2016, for contributions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Minister. I now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 18, the Shadow Finance Minister, D. Burt. You have the floor.
Mr. E. David BurtI was informing a few people that it is now the month of July. We know that it is the good month. And we hear that Cup Match is in the west. It will be a wonderful thing. So it is not too long until the persons from St. George's …
Mr. E. David BurtThat is what happens. So I see you are wearing the red and blue very well. Mr. Speaker, on this Bill . . . and I thank the Minister for his brief. The last time that we did this, actually, was July 8 th, 2011. I was not here. There …
That is what happens. So I see you are wearing the red and blue very well. Mr. Speaker, on this Bill . . . and I thank the Minister for his brief. The last time that we did this, actually, was July 8 th, 2011. I was not here. There are a few Members who were here. But that was the last time that pensions were increased for seniors. So we are now going on five years [that] seniors have gone without any increase, which is not something that, of course, happened under the Progressive Labour Party Government, where seniors received increases at least once every two years and, often, every year. So that is the record, and people can compare the r ecords, Mr. Speaker. But what the Minister said also is that he believes that this strikes the right balance. And I am not entirely certain that this does strike the right balance, given the factors in our society, especially the factors which affect seniors predominantly and the cost -ofliving increases that have been heaped upon them from the One Bermuda Alliance, which I will get into later, Mr. Speaker. What I would say is that, although the Minister gave his brief, which is very similar to the brief that was given in 2011, the challenge that I have is that the circumstances, by and large, have changed. And there are certain things that have changed. And when the Minister gave his statement on this we asked some parliamentary questions. And one of the parliamentary questions I asked specifically was regarding the review. Now, the Minister spoke about the review that is going to be taking place. And I was wondering, when the Minister gets a chance to respond, if he has any idea of the timelines for the recommendations that will come from the Pensions and Benefits Working 2312 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly Group for any type of changes to the Contributory Pension Fund. On this side, Mr. Speaker, we have suggested a number of things. The first thing, of course, that we suggested is that we should change the contribution structure for social insurance to make it more pr ogressive. And what does that mean, Mr. Speaker? It means, like most other countries in the world that have a social insurance scheme such as we have, the contributions are not a fixed amount. Right now, no matter if you make $10,000 a year or if you make $10 million a year, you pay the same amount of your money every week. That means that persons at the bottom of the ladder are paying a higher percentage of their income, and t hat means that persons at the top are paying lower. In many other countries, it is a scaled version; it is a percentage of their income, especially, you know, when we look at the United States. We look at other places, where it is a percentage of their income that goes into the fund. So that is an idea that can make things more sustainable. And not only could it make things more sustainable, it is fairer, it is more equitable, and it can give relief to persons who are on the lower end of the pay scale. So I think that that is something that the Minister may want to consider. It is something that we have stated numerous times during our Budget replies and our Throne Speech replies. And it is something that I thought we might have an opportunity to hear more about today, but we have not. Also, Mr. Speaker, we have heard about persons living longer. The question is, What are we going to do about the retirement age? We have heard ques-tions about age discrimination. We have heard questions about people who want to work longer. What are we going to do? We do know that if we raise the r etirement age, we raise the eligibility age for social i nsurance, we know that that means the fund will be more sustainable. People want to work longer. We should give them the oppor tunity to do so. And if they want to do so, then we should give them that opport unity, Mr. Speaker. The final thing that I would like to ask, and I know that we have had some parliamentary questions about it, is, What is the Ministry of Finance doing in regard to the enforcement of the outstanding contributions that exist in the social insurance scheme and the Contributory Pension Fund? We understand that it is a great number. We understand it is increasing. And we understand that there are some serial off enders. What action is taking place? We have heard from the Gov-ernment that they are going to increase enforcement action. There was nothing in the Minister’s statement here. We see nothing insofar as legislation or drafted legislation which has been tabled. We have seen very little progress in that regard. And I think that persons would want to know, especially individuals who had not had their social insurance paid by their employers and will then have an issue getting their contributions when it is time. Because the way the structure is set up, we have the employer, of course, responsible for turning over those contributions. And if those contributions are not turned over in the employee’s name, that means that they do not get their benefit at the end of the day. So I would like the Minister of Finance, hopefully when he gets a chance to respond, to answer those questions, because I think it is very important. And I think if the Government has spoken about they are going to i ncrease enforcement, I think that the persons who . . . we here in Parliament and the general public should understand what enforcement actions they are taking. What enforcement actions may actually be coming? And what may be done, especially for those persons who are incredible serial offenders insofar as turning over their pensions to the Contributory Pension Fund, Mr. Speaker? Now, Mr. Speaker, what many said when the announcement came by the Minister of Finance that they were going to be increasing pensions by 5 per cent is that they said, Oh, boy. Looks like an election is coming. Because the same Minister who said that money does not grow on trees has managed to give a pittance to seniors, Mr. Speaker. And why do I say it was pittance? Because the Honourable Minister of Finance hims elf admitted that this increase does not even keep up with the rate of inflation. So we are gi ving seniors an increase that does not keep up with the rate of inflation at the same point in time that the One Bermuda Alliance has increased the cost of living for seniors. What does that mean, Mr. Speaker? Our seniors are worse off. That is what it means. Seniors in this country are worse off under the One Bermuda Alliance than they were under the Progressive Labour Party. That is a fact that is without disput e, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the 5 per cent increase that has happened that we are going to see today does not match the inflation rate over the same period in time, which has been 8.3 per cent. The Minister admitted that it is under that rate, so we under stand that. So our seniors have fallen behind. But I spoke about the increase of the cost for seniors. And let me just touch on that, Mr. Speaker, because I think it is very important. The same Minister of Finance who is saying that he is striking the righ t balance in making sure that we are socially responsible re- introduced fees for seniors to pay for their cars. The same Minister of Finance who said we are striking the right balance attempted to raise land tax on seniors. The same Minister of F inance inc reased their costs at the hospital by reducing the subsidy. The same Minister of Finance i ncreased the cost of the health insurance programme. And the same Minister of Finance increased the cost of FutureCare.
Bermuda House of Assembly All of these costs affect our seniors, Mr. Speaker. However, there are no increases that are in relation to that. And it should also be stated, because for civil servants who get money from the Public Service Superannuation Fund, we should also note that their automatic increases have been stopped as well. So this means that those persons are also worse off. Now, Mr. Speaker, less money in their poc kets and an increase in their costs. But the Minister of Finance says that we are striking the right balance. No, Mr. Speaker, this is not the right balance, and it is a mere pittance. Because one of the things that we commonly hear in this House whenever we speak on issues of economics is the refrain from the One Bermuda Alliance saying, 14 years, 14 years! You had 14 years! What did you do? Well, I will cha llenge any Member to get up and criticise what we are saying between 14 years. Because, Mr. Speaker, here is what I will say. We increased contributions at least once every two years under the Progressive Labour Party. Our pension increases were above the rate of inflation, Mr. Speaker. That means that seniors did not fall behind, unlike what has happened under the One Bermuda Alliance. And, as the Minister of Finance will readily admit, the Contributory Pension Fund was left in a strong state. Those are the facts, Mr. Speaker. That is what we have. So the Minister of Finance must answer to the people of this country, especially the seniors of this country, some of whom have seen their (and I will get to this a little later) take- home, the amount that they a re getting from social insurance, almost disappear because of these additional increases such as FutureCare and HIP [Health Insurance Plan]. Som etimes, persons on social insurance get $40 because they automatically take out FutureCare and they automaticall y take out health insurance programme. And when those increases happen, which the One Bermuda Alliance has put on them, they get a mere pittance, Mr. Speaker. Sometimes, it is nothing. So, here is the thing. The record between the two parties is clear, Mr. Speaker. On that side, the One Bermuda Alliance, when it comes to pensions for seniors, they do not believe in increasing the seniors’ pensions to keep up with the rate of inflation. And they say that although it does not make it, it strikes the right bal ance. On this side, we believe that we should. However, Mr. Speaker, let us go on. Because during the One Bermuda Alliance election campaign, one of the things that they said was that they would reduce health care costs. We heard that over and over again. We’ll reduce health care costs. We’ll get a grip on health care costs. We’ll get a grip on the hospitals. We’ll get a grip on health care costs all around. Well, here is the kicker, Mr. Speaker. Since 2012, health care costs have increased more than 20 per cent since 2012. And since the last pension increase that happened in August of 2011, health care costs have gone up more than 30 per cent, Mr. Speaker. We have to understand that health care costs, of course, affect seniors more than they affect the general populace. And that was clearly given on July 8 th, 2011, by the Honourable Minister of Finance, who was then the Shadow Minister of Finance, who said the following —and if you will allow me to read from the Hansard, Mr. Speaker. This is on 1July 8th, 2011. He had some questions for the Minister of Finance. And [the then - Shadow Finance Minister] said: “The first one that came to mind from the pensioner’s standpoint is that, is 3 per cent enough? Is it adequate in view of the rise in cost of living, not t he general rise in the cost of living, but the rise in the cost of living for seniors?” He went on to say, “But it is a significant i ssue, in that, you know, we are using this 3 per cent. It is higher than the average inflation rate of Bermuda. Average inflation rate is not as high as 3 per cent. But one has to recognise that the increase in living costs for older people, the costs are different because health care is a much higher proportion of your costs as you get older. You know, the machine starts to break down.” The Minister of Finance then went on to say, “We all know that the average rate of increase of costs for things having to do with health is much greater than the average rate of inflation. So that is one question that comes to mind: Is it suf ficient? Is it adequate? Or, you know, is it not enough, and seniors are still, in spite of this, going to suffer some reduction in their net disposable income?” Mr. Speaker, that was five years ago. The Minister of Finance now has the power to make sure that he rights a perceived wrong that he saw in 2011. But five years later, here we have the same Minister of Finance, or the person who was Shadow Minister of Finance then, now getting up and saying that we are striking the right balance by increasing pensions less than the rate of inflation. When we talk about health insurance costs, Mr. Speaker, it is very important to note also, since the last time pensions were increased, and this i ncrease is only going to be 5 per cent —the last time pensions were inc reased, HIP costs were up 13 per cent, and FutureCare costs are up 34 per cent, Mr. Speaker. However, seniors are only going to get 5 per cent. Yet, they are going to have to pay and absorb these additional costs, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have compared the records of our two parties, and I think that the record is clear. When it comes to the issues of making sure that at a very basic level we can make sure that we provide for our seniors, that we can make their living years as comfortable as possible, w e on this side demonstrated during our time in office that it was something that was a priority for us. Mr. Speaker, I do not believe that it is
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Bermuda House of As sembly a priority for the One Bermuda Alliance. And it is very clear, Mr. Speaker, because after four years the pe ople of this country can see what the record of the One Bermuda Alliance in regard to seniors is. It is a record in which they take money away and reduce grants to seniors’ care homes. It is a record in which they make seniors pay more at the hospital. It is a record in which they make seniors pay more for FutureCare and HIP. It is a record in which they make seniors pay more for their cars. It is a record in which they make seniors pay more for just about everything that they can, Mr. Speaker —complete disregar d. But I get back to where I started, Mr. Speaker. Some people may say that an election is coming. The last two United Bermuda Party pension increases, Mr. Speaker, took place in 1993 and 1998. It seems that they have this thing for going every five years . Mr. Speaker, I think we all know what took place in 1993 and 1998. Five years ago when the Minister of F inance, the current Minister of Finance, questioned the delay in contributions for one year, he said the follo wing, and I quote: 2“Yet, we are seeing a delay of a year in increasing contributions. “So I wondered if this delay was a delay rel ative to economics, or whether this was a delay relative to politics. So, that is a question that I think is certainly worth asking.” Mr. Speaker, I will rephrase the Finance Mi nister’s statement of five years ago. And I will say, Many will wonder whether or not this increase is rel ative to economics or relative to politics. Given the behaviour of the One Bermuda Alliance in many ways mimics their forebears of the U nited Bermuda Party, I would advise members of the public to make sure that their voter registration details are up to date, as it is clear that an election is sooner rather than later, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Economic Development. Dr. Grant Gibbons, you have the floor. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have certainly listened intently to that very impassioned speech. A nd, as usual, the …
All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Economic Development. Dr. Grant Gibbons, you have the floor.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have certainly listened intently to that very impassioned speech. A nd, as usual, the Honourable Member has only told half the story. It is always easy to give away money when it is somebody else’s. And I think Honourable Members on both sides of the House know the Contributory Pension scheme is not Government money which is being given away. These are known as pay-as-you-go schemes. And what that means, Mr. Speaker, is the money that is going out in the form of benefits is coming in directly in the form of contributions. So those who are working
2 Ibid. right now and paying their social insurance, and that includes both employees and employers, are the ones essentially who are providing the money for the benefits. So when my honourable colleague, Mr. Ric hards, says that it is the right balance, that is exactly what he means. He has a responsibility to make sure there is an appropriate balance between the contributions which are being made now and the benefits which are going to seniors. I do not think anybody in this House would say that seniors do not deserve a pension and a strong pension and increases as ap-propriate. But, as Honourable Members will only know too well on that side of the House, we have had a pretty tough time over the last five years, and a lot of the consequences of that were in place because of policies put in p lace by the former Government. So, I think it is quite appropriate for those who are in the workforce right now, both employers and employees, that there was a delay between the time that yet another increase was placed on those who are currently working, because as you know, there clearly were issues in relation to employment, unem-ployment and also the size of paycheques over the last five, six, seven years. So it is that balance which I am sure the Honourable Minister refers to in terms of trying to stri ke a balance between what is fair to those who are currently in the workforce, who are paying their social insurance, and those who benefit by this particular increase by the benefit which is done now. I think it is also fair to say that there is a r esponsibility as well, not only to seniors who are col-lecting their benefits at the present time under the s ocial insurance, but also those seniors down the road, those who are currently working but will retire in three years, five years, ten years. So that is also part of the balance, which is very important here. Sustainability is a critical issue here, one of the reasons why there is a 2.5 per cent premium between what is collected in terms of contributions at 7.5 per cent versus what is being paid out in benefits. There is also nothing to prevent the Minister of Finance from looking at this again next year. But I think, as we know, 5 per cent is quite a significant i ncrease. The last increase that was of that nature was by, not the former Government, but the Government before that, which was 9 per cent. I think there were a couple of increases way back —
Mr. E. David BurtPoint of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. E. David BurtThe Honourab le Minister of F inance is misleading the House—sorry, the HonourBermuda House of Assembly able former Minister of Finance, but the Honourable Minister of Economic Development is misleading the House. He said that there was a 9 per cent increase by not the former Government, but by the …
The Honourab le Minister of F inance is misleading the House—sorry, the HonourBermuda House of Assembly able former Minister of Finance, but the Honourable Minister of Economic Development is misleading the House. He said that there was a 9 per cent increase by not the former Government, but by the United Bermuda Party Government. There was a 9 per cent increase in 2004 by the Progressive Labour Party Government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Then we have had some significant increases over the years. And usually those are catch -up, Mr. Speaker.
[Inaudible interjection] Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: They are. I mean, the Honourable Member laughs. These are catch- up situations because it is recognised there is a need to provide additional support to seniors. The differ ence between 2004 and 2016 is pretty dramatic in terms of the nature of the economy in those two periods. And I think in 2004 there was not quite the same pressure, because we were in the midst of, in some respects, kind of a perverse benefit, Katrina, Wil ma and other hurricanes that produced a huge inflow of capital in this country. Things were booming at that particular time.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, Honourable Member. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. E. David BurtI believ e the Honourable Member might be a little bit confused on the dates. He mentioned hurricanes that took place in 2005, and he is referring to items in 2004.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister, carry on. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, the Honourable Member is quit e correct. Katrina was 2005. But before that—I was going to get there— we had 9/11. There was a significant increase in the type of business that was being done here, which resulted in very …
Minister, carry on. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, the Honourable Member is quit e correct. Katrina was 2005. But before that—I was going to get there— we had 9/11. There was a significant increase in the type of business that was being done here, which resulted in very nice revenues coming in to Government. But that was sustained over a period of a couple of years. It is perverse, in a way, that we benefit by disasters som ewhere else, but that is exactly what happened with the economy at that particular time. So the point I am making is that putting through an increase, a burden on employees going back a couple of years, would have been probably not the right balance. There would have been a lot of complaints that that would produce hardship and the rest of it. So the Honourable Member has waited until he felt . . . And we have had five , I believe, quarters of positive economic growth so far. So it is an appropr iate time, a better balance right now to be able to start to put this through. And as the economy improves still further, (and I cannot speak for the Minister) I am sure he will l ook at this next year, as well. So it is important for people to understand the other side of the story as to where the money is com-ing from and the burden that puts on people who are working at the present time. I think the Honourable Member, in fairness , raised some good points. I think this issue of looking at the retirement age is something that probably the former Government looked at as well. I am sure the Minister of Finance will look at it in this particular case. Some Honourable Members may be aware that the way it works in the United States, with the Social S ecurity benefits, is that you can elect as to when you start to, essentially, take your benefits. So, if you want to, if you retired early, you can start actually to get your benefits earlier as opposed to later, or you can defer those benefits to a slightly later point. What that means in practice is, if you take it earlier, you get a reduced benefit because you are likely to take those benefits over a longer period of time. If you wait, let us say, until you are not 65, but 66, 67, the benefit act ually increases because you may be working in that period still at age 65. So that is something that may be of interest to look at here. And obviously, that depends, Mr. Speaker, to a large degree on actuarial life tables as to how long, in this particular case, Bermudians are likely to live. Because that is what gets looked at in terms of the sustainability and the durability of the fund to be able to pay out. How long are people li ving? How long is t he Contributory Pension Fund likely to have to pay these out? And as Bermudians live longer and age, I will just say, more gracefully, then obviously the payments have to go over a longer period of time. One of the other challenges that we have got as well , and this is a consequence also of some of the loss of jobs that we have seen in the last seven years, is there is a much smaller —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerDr. Gibbons, it is 12:30. So how much more time do you have? We can come back. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: About two minutes,
Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerOkay. All right. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Okay. So the point I was going to make is that we have a smaller base now in terms of the numbers out there that are contributing towards this, as well. And tha t is another i ssue that the Honourable …
Okay. All right.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Okay. So the point I was going to make is that we have a smaller base now in terms of the numbers out there that are contributing towards this, as well. And tha t is another i ssue that the Honourable Member, the Minister of F inance, has to bring into place. As far as health costs are concerned, I will end on this note. Mr. Speaker, you will recall one of the things that the former Opposition used to talk 2316 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of As sembly about al l the time, which was the dramatic increase in the premium, the standard premium under the former Government. So I would just like to say that the Ho nourable Member has drawn attention to increases r ecently. Those have slowed down. My honourable co lleague, the Minister of Health, I am sure will speak to this issue. But there was a very dramatic increase in the cost of HIP insurance during the former Gover nment’s time, as well. And as a consequent, I think we know all about the Acute Care Wing and the costs involved there. So all of this adds up in terms of the health care costs in other areas. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, thank you, Dr. Gibbons. Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that we now adjourn for l unch.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Honourable Members, the House is adjourned to 2:00 pm. [ Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:26 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:02 pm [ Hon. K. H. Randolph Horton, Speaker, in the Chair] ORDER CONTRIBUTORY PENSIONS (AMENDMENT OF CONTRIBUTIONS AND BENEFITS) ORDER 2016 [ Continuation of debate thereon]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Dr. Gibbons had completed his presentation. Are there any other Honourable Members who will care to speak? Are you going to speak MP Burgess? Ho n. Derr ick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, sir.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right, just about made it. If there was anybody slower, they would have been in trouble. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. The Chair recognises the Honourable D. V. Burgess. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes? Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you. I was just in a discussion outside. If you will giv e me a second to get ready here—
The SpeakerThe SpeakerTake your time. [Inaudible interjection] ` Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, yes, it was a great lunch. [ Inaudible interjection] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: No, I am still that 160. Mr. Speaker, on this pension issue, and I heard the Honourable Minister Grant Gibbons say it is easy …
Take your time. [Inaudible interjection] ` Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, yes, it was a great lunch. [ Inaudible interjection] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: No, I am still that 160. Mr. Speaker, on this pension issue, and I heard the Honourable Minister Grant Gibbons say it is easy to giv e away money when it is somebody else’s. Very true . Very true. And I think the Minister Richards said an increase in our seniors’ population puts a strain on the fund. Yes, it does, Mr. Speaker. And we do know —I do know , I think we all know —that the socia l insurance cheque was not put there to take care of your all your needs , because it is not sufficient. But Mr. Speaker, how did we get in this situation? This situation stems years back before any one of us here, during our time, before our time . . . how we got in this position, Mr. Speaker, is because as you probably know, the pensions for the majority of Bermudians, particularly black Bermudians, is som ething just recent. And, Mr. Speaker, when you look at the i ncome disparity of blacks versus whites, blacks did not have the disposable income to save, to put some money somewhere else in another fund or invest in another fund so that they would have not only the s ocial insurance cheque, but monies from other inves tments. They did not have that, Mr. Speaker. And, Mr. Speaker, if you look at the cost of living today as compared to, let us say 1974. I n 1974 if you took an employee from Public Works at that time, 20 per cent of their income was for the rent. T oday it is 41 per cent , and the wages have not g one up in that particular ratio, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, with the expenses that we face today being more than [we have] ever faced, people would say (and I would say also) that they think Government is finding money for other things but not enough for our seniors. But let me first say, before I lose my train of [thought] , we want to thank the Go vernment on behalf of seniors for the 5 per cent i ncrease. Even though it does not fall in line with COLA (cost -of-living adjustment) , gifts are always needed and [we are] thankful. So, Mr . Speaker, when we look at the costs , what we have put on our seniors today, the present Government increased costs to seniors , hospital care , by 10 per cent at the hospital. Mr. Speaker, I think that at one time seniors were able to get a passport for nothing. It costs today.
Bermuda House of Assembly In fact, I think [it now] costs like $160 for a passport. I think I can remember, I believe it was in 1998, it cost about $40- something, I believe—quite a jump, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when we see gr ants that are given to rest homes, they have been cut. This is not the first year, it has happened before. Mr. Speaker, and when we look at the pro blems that seniors are having today, many years ago when you were a little boy , I remember , Mr. Speaker, when we saw somebody acting strangely, in particular an older person, we said they were crazy. That is what we used [to say] in those days, right? Not knowing that, as we have learned today, they had dementia. So a lot of people that we said, Oh, something’s wrong with them, we did not know any better then. But today you have got the Alzheimer’s and the dementia, and Government has not, up to this point, put any programmes in place to assist families with dementia care. And it seems to be very rampant today because health . . . the cost for dementia in the UK is extrav agant. It is very high, very high in the UK. And Bermuda is no exception. So, we need facilities for our seniors, Mr. Speaker. And for the Government to say that we are going to leave it to the private sector, well, the private sector can . . . I think they should be a part of it, but as a Government we have a responsibility to take care of our seniors. And this Government and the last Government are sending . . . are forcing retirement . . . firing seniors. Once they go 65, they are sending them home. So that population, those who are not working, has increased, a lot of it because of forced retirement, Mr. Speaker. And, yes, as the Minister of Finance says, there is a strain on the fund. Well , that is not new to Bermuda, and it is not new to other parts of the world. In fact, other parts of the world are taking steps to correct it. In fact, some of them have done it where the ultimate goal is to get the retirement age up to 70. And we have not done anything, and I think the Gover nment here has not not put it in place, the policy in place, because they want to get rid of some more people.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes? POINT OF ORDER [Impu ting improper motive] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, that is [i mputing] improper motives , and that is just not accurate . I would ask that that comment be retracted.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Thank you. Carry on, Honourable Member. Hon. Derrick V. Bur gess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, let me put it another way. The Government are forcing pe ople to go home—retire —when they really cannot afford it. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Government is not forcing anyone to go home. For elucidation for the Honourable Member , the early retirement programme is a voluntary programme.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Thank you. I think that is correct, MP Burgess. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess , Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I am not even talking about the voluntary [retirement], which is completely different. I understand that. People that want to go, they are offered early retirement, and I think …
All right. Thank you. Thank you. I think that is correct, MP Burgess. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess , Sr.: Mr. Speaker, I am not even talking about the voluntary [retirement], which is completely different. I understand that. People that want to go, they are offered early retirement, and I think that those people that can afford it do that. That is fine. I am talking about those at 65. I did say those that are 65, those are the ones that Government are forcing to retire. And you know we are sending a lot of people home—
Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, yes, Honourable Member? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The retirement at 65 is not being forced on anybody. Retirement at 65 is a term of employment when people come in to work for the Government . They are the terms of employment .
The SpeakerThe SpeakerRight, y es. Yes, right, it is . . . I guess it is the employment agreement that . . . Carry on, carry on. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. Mr. Speaker, you know when they put the you retire at 65 rule in place, it was probably in …
Right, y es. Yes, right, it is . . . I guess it is the employment agreement that . . . Carry on, carry on.
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. Mr. Speaker, you know when they put the you retire at 65 rule in place, it was probably in the 1950s , and at that time lif e expectancy was about 63. Well, there are a lot of years between 1950 and 2016. Today p eople at 80 are considered young. And what countries are doing is increasing the retirement age— raising the retirement age to 70. They are trying to get it up to 70 in order to have less strain on the fund. A person [that was] 65 thirty years ago was considered old. A person [that is] 65 today is not considered old, Mr. Speaker. 2318 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly You do not look old, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Flattery will g et you nowhere, though. [Laughter] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Even the Leader of the country is near 65. He does not look it. So we will not send him home early. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am not 60 yet. [Laughter and …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Flattery will g et you nowhere, though.
[Laughter]
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Even the Leader of the country is near 65. He does not look it. So we will not send him home early.
Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I am not 60 yet.
[Laughter and inaudible interjection]
Hon. D errick V. Burgess, Sr.: I was trying to help you out . I am here trying to help you out. [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, I am trying to get you there quick. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yeah. And th e other thing, Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Oh, well, that is true . I do not look 50, that is true.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, they . . . I do. When I go downtown people say , What! Are you home from college? I say, N o, no.
[Laughter]
Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I am so, you know . . . that is what they tell me. I do not know . I do not know what they are trying to tell me, but anyhow, it feels so good when they tell me that, yo u know. But, Mr. Speaker, what is happening is we are giving tax exemptions (and when I say “we” I am tal king about this Government and the former Gover nment ) to employers who have not paid up on their contributions and payroll tax to the Government. You know, those tax exemptions came into place when we were the Government and we put no criteria on it. So these people are getting away . . . a lot of people have gotten away over the years . I remember one fellow telling me about . . . it could have been ei ght, nine years ago, and he worked steady up until the age of about 70. And he went to get a pension, even though he was late going to get it . But he went to get a pension and there was no money there for him, even though the employer was deduc ting for the pension from his wage every week . That is one story and there are many stories like that. Now, I feel that the rules that are in place are not strong enough where the employer should be r equired, on a monthly basis or a three- month basis, that they inform the employee with proof that they have paid their pension, health insurance, payroll deductions. That is what should happen, Mr. Speaker, because you are working and you think everything is going fine when it is not going fine because these folks are not paying for your deductions. Mr. Speaker, today’s wages . . . even though it is a 5 per cent increase, today’s wages buy , in the United States , 30 per cent less than they could in 1968. So I make an appeal to the Government to pay some money to our employees, some more money to employees, because of the history. For a lot of these folks, as you all know by now, this is the only income they have because of our history. [They had] no di sposable income to save or invest to have those little dividends here an d there coming in to help out. They do not have any of that. And that is why we definitely should be taking care of our seniors. And, Mr. Speaker, just the history of this country when we used to bring in—and still do —employees from overseas to undercut t he wages of Bermudians. That is one of the side effects of the problems we are having today because that was done. They not only undercut you, but you get no benefits. Our benefits are brand new to Bermudians, particularly black Ber-mudians, and so they cer tainly would be in a worse position than others in the country because of the hi story and because of the wages that they were paid during those times, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, I would ask . . . I think it was Minister Grant Gibbons who said the 9 per cent i ncrease that we got was a catch- up. Yes, it was a catch -up, but Mr. Speaker, we will never catch up because this thing started way back in the 1800s. We will never catch up. But we can do a better job than we are doing. I would hope that this Commit tee, even though I have some problems with the Committee you just appointed, Mr. Speaker —no criticism to you at all—trying to get a decent wage, that would hopefully bring it current to what it should be for somebody to be able to live. But we need to brin g the benefits in line where they should be like everyone else that is receiving benefits from other places via dividends and the likes of that because we did not have the disposable income. We still do not have the disposable i ncome to invest like most ot hers do. And you can just look at the disparity between blacks and whites in Bermuda and you see the difference and the reason why. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you . Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 29, MP Zane De Silva. You have the floor.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am happy to weigh in on this change that the Minister has brought about today. And something that the Honourable Member Derrick Bu rgess just said is very important, Mr. Speaker, because you know when he talks about catching up and you never will because as we all know, 90 per cent of the world’s wealth is controlled by 10 per cent of the pe ople . . .and that is not going to change. It certainly will not change in my lifetime, Mr. Speaker, and will not change in my grandchildren’s lifetimes either. But he brought up a good point and it is true. There are many seniors in this country that were able, just by the colour of thei r skin, to have an advantage that some of our black people today are recipients of just because of the colour of their skin. And you know, unfortunately, that is where we are. But there may be . . . someday , we might see a catching up in that cat egory and it would be nice to see, I am sure. My colleague, Rolfe Commissiong, does talk about that quite often and I agree with him. A lot of our racial problems , maybe we would not experience them today if the wealth gap was a little closer. But, Mr. Speaker, getting onto this increase is overdue and it is fantastic for our seniors. But it does fall woefully short, Mr. Speaker . It falls woefully short. The Minister said that he is trying to strike the right balance, and even his colleague , Dr. Gibbons , echoed that sentiment about striking the right balance. And I am not sure, it was one of our colleagues on this side that talked about the . . . when you talk about the right balance, you know, and you think about the amount that is taken from everyone, whether that person is Mrs. Smith —
[Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —Madam Deputy Speaker, whether it is Mrs. Smith who works behind the cash register , or whether it is the CEO that is making a mi llion dollars a year —the deduction is the same. And, you know , I think it is high time that . . . whether it be this Government or the future Government, I think that that is something that should be looked at and looked at seriously. I am sure, Madam Deputy Speaker, that, you know, those that are making three, four, five hundred thousand a year, those that are making several million dollars a year, certainly would not mind paying a little bit more than what they are paying. And I would submit to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, that . . . why should we not have price breaks with regard to contr i-butions? So , if Mrs. Smith is making $40,000 a year , she pays maybe 5 per cent of that amount , which currently is deducted , while Mr. Tucker , who is making several million a year , should be making up that def icit. And , quite frankly , I think if it is done correctly , maybe the Finance Minister might find that he would have a little more money than what he currently co llects, certainly , if he does the numbers correctly , and I think that the civil servants that work in the Finance Ministry could come up with that formula fairly rapidly. So, I think that that is something that we should look into because we do not want to mention the “I” word — income tax —do we? No, we do not want to mention that. But I think this is certainly a way in which, you know, folks can contribute. It is not going to hurt them, especially the ones that are making a lot of money . It is not going to hurt them and they can contribute to assisting our seniors who, as we know, Madam Deputy Speaker, a lot of our seniors are hurting, and I will get into that in a minute. But one thing that always resonates with me when it comes to our seniors and the current Finance Minister , is when he made the statement to our seniors so metime last year, and he will [remember] , is when he told them money doesn’t grow on trees .
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That was the year before, was it? [Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The year before, last y ear, two years, three years ago he told our seniors that money does not grow on trees, which I thought then, and I will continue to think now, that that was offensive. It was offensive. But I am glad to see that the Minister is now finding at least a few trees that have some money on them.
Mr. Walter H. RobanA few leaves. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, a few leaves, as my colleague, Walter Roban, says. In fact, you know, when I think about it, Madam Deputy Speaker, you think about the increase in our FutureCare premiums (and a couple of col-leagues have spoken about it on …
A few leaves. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, a few leaves, as my colleague, Walter Roban, says. In fact, you know, when I think about it, Madam Deputy Speaker, you think about the increase in our FutureCare premiums (and a couple of col-leagues have spoken about it on this side) . Now that some of our seniors are paying more, more fees for the licence on their cars that they did not previously pay for, the land tax, some of our land tax benefits have been taken away; we have a reduced subsidy at the hospital, which is huge; and you will know that the OBA opened up the clinic on Victoria Street , you know , whilst we were in Government we got rid of the indigent clinic, that horrible place down at the hospital . 2320 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly Now you have got seniors that are foregoing going around to the clinic because now it has got the same sort of stigma attached to it that the former indigent clinic used to have. And so our seniors do not want to go there because they say if they go there they are highlighted [and told] to go and get assistance. I do not know why, for the life of me, that the OBA Government changed that. I mean, our seniors were able to go to the doctor of their choice —with dignity . Yes, they could hold their head up high, walk in the office, sit next to you and me, Madam Deputy Speaker, and you would not know their financial situa-tion. Why did we take that away? Madam Deputy Speaker, the lack of jobs that were promised by the OBA has caused our seniors forever , financial challenges. And you know I have said it before, Madam Deputy Speaker . Why do I say that? Well, because a lot of our young people are being subsidised by their grandmothers and parents. I have seen more middleclass people struggle over the last seve ral years, and I am sure everyone in this House has, than at any time in our history. People are hurting badly and when folks are not working, who do they run to? Well, they run to mama and they run to grandma. So they have been feeling that pinch of the lack of jobs for our people because they subsidise their children. They look after their children and their grandchildren. Of course they do! We took away things like free education at the college. So what happens is, again, this falls on our seniors —our mothers, fathers, and our grandparents—all of these things, Madam Deputy Speaker. And you had that comment , money doesn’t grow on trees . But we find money . . . money does not grow on trees, but we find money . . . and I believe the Ho nourable Member , Diallo Rabain, said (I believe it was him and you can correct me if I am wrong) that this new office renovation for Minister Fahy is going to cost a couple of hundred thousand dollars (the Member who sits in another place) . For one of our Mini sters, it is goin g to cost a couple of hundred thousand dollars, but we tell our seniors , money doesn’t grow on trees. We have money that we find for a Commi ssion of Inquiry, which to me—another $400,000—which to me, I think, is a witch- hunt. We find $500,000 , a million , maybe two mi llion dollars to do an investigation on former Premier Brown and my doctor , Dr. Reddy. We find money for that, but we struggle to find money for our seniors. We can find half a million dollars in bonuses for the Bermuda Tourism Authority staff, the Executive in particular —the Executive in particular , who received over $500,000 in bonuses —another half a million do llars gone. And while we are on half a million dollars, what about another half a million dollars since the i nception being paid to board members on the Bermuda Tourism Authority? [Hon. K. H. Randolph Horton, Speaker, in the Chair]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, we just had a referendum. That cost . . . I guess it was $380,000 – 400,000. Lord knows what expenses were attached to that that we are not going to find out about, but that was another $400,000. So, these things quickly run up, Mr. Speaker, tally up to about two and half, three million dollars. Could our seniors have used that money? Of course they could have. But it seems like the OBA Gover nment can find money for witch- hunts , for all these other things , referendums . . . all these other things they can find money for, but they took four years , almost , to find money for our seniors. So, Mr. Speaker, you see, this is what I stru ggle with , all the money that is found for other things. And you have people, organisations like Agape House . . . I had the luxury of attending the prize- giving last night and I know they are struggling. Y ou have Project Action, who as reported in the paper, I think this week , they are struggling, and they look after our seniors. I mean, we seem to find money for all these other things, but we do not seem to find the correct amount of money for our seniors. Mr. Speaker, I am hopeful that since the F inance Minister and the Minister , Dr. Gibbons , spoke about this at great length, I am hoping that with all the projections that they are predicting in terms of Bermuda’s success and the hotel development, America’s Cup . . . I am hoping that they might even break tradition, Mr. Speaker, and come back here ( if they are in Government long enough) to this House very soon with an increase, Mr. Speaker. Because I certainly think that if the OBA can find money for all those things that I just listed, surely t hey can find a little bit more money for our seniors. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 33. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The SpeakerThe SpeakerJust before you start to speak , we will take the opportunity to recognise a former Senator in the House, Senator Llewellyn Peniston, who is sitting in the Gallery. [Desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerCarry on, please, MP S immons. Bermuda House of Assembly CONTRIBUTORY PENSIONS (AMENDMENT OF CONTRIBUTIONS AND BENEFITS) ORDER 2016 [Continuation of debate thereon]
Mr. Jamahl S. SimmonsMr. Speaker, the interes ting thing about being in politics is that the worst thing you can be accused of is playing politics. Basketball players do not get accused of playing basketball and it is a bad thing. Tennis players do not get accused of playing tennis and it is …
Mr. Speaker, the interes ting thing about being in politics is that the worst thing you can be accused of is playing politics. Basketball players do not get accused of playing basketball and it is a bad thing. Tennis players do not get accused of playing tennis and it is a bad thing. But politicians, when they play politics, it is considered a bad thing. And we know that this increase comes at a pretty o pportune time. And a spin doctor would say that, you know, in the last hour we have recognised that our seniors have been hard done by and can beat their chest s and say they have gotten their first increase in five years. Mr. Speaker, I am reminded of the philos opher and writer , Theodor Geisel , who wrote of a character who the spirit of the season caused her heart to grow three sizes bigger. To those who are not aware, Theodor Geisel is the real name of Dr. Seuss, and he was speaking of the Grinch in [How] the Grinch who stole Christmas , which was inspired by the Christmas season. But I see no inspiration of any season —not Cup Match season, not Christmas season—within this Government . I see the inspiration and the awakening of election season. And make no mistake, when you have been the Grinch who has taken away benefits for seniors, when you have been the Gri nch that has cut pr ogrammes that benefit seniors, when you have been the Grinch that tells our seniors that money does not grow on trees , and you look at the largest voting bloc in our country, it is evident that the spirit of some season has caused the he art of the Government to grow three sizes bigger. But as we look at the record, Mr. Speaker, they will tell you that they inherited a mess, that , you know this was the best we could do. Mr. Speaker, firem en inherit a mess every time they go to work, but they do not pour gasoline on the fire. And what we have seen is an exacerbation of the condition of our seniors in this country under the One Bermuda All iance. It is clear. Their quality of life is not better. Their standard of living is not better. Their ability to pay their bills and meet their responsibilities is not better. And so we have to ask ourselves . . . I think we accept that these increases are necessary . I think we have been calling for them more regularly . We accept that our seniors will benef it from this in some small measure, but we have to look deeper into what it means to take care of our seniors in this country. What is our vision for ensuring a quality of life for those who have built this country and who have helped to make it the strong foundation that we all benefit from as younger people? That is the question. And I think that when I look at some of what my col-leagues have laid out in terms of reform, a fairer tax structure, ways to address some of the inequities, we have to do better by our seniors. We have to do better by our seniors and we have to do better when it is not just election season. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerI thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Members care to speak? Then the Chair will recogn ise the Minister for Health and Seniors, Jeanne Atherden. You have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, although we have been talking about the Contributory Pensions, it seems to me that …
I thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Members care to speak? Then the Chair will recogn ise the Minister for Health and Seniors, Jeanne Atherden. You have the floor.
Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, although we have been talking about the Contributory Pensions, it seems to me that a lot of focus has been put on our seniors, recognising that they , obviously, are the persons who benefit from the increases in the Contrib utory Pension. I must say, Mr. Speaker, there was a suggestion at the beginning that this increase was just be-cause an election should be coming up, and a suggestion to individuals to get their voter registration in order and up to date. But all I can say to you, Mr. Speaker, as I said many times, you know, we have every opportunity to stay at the wicket for the five years and, therefore, do not start rushing out there and thinking that we are running scared. Mr. Speaker, if you think about it, and I have mentioned this before and I have mentioned this to the seniors when I am out talking to them, when I am reminded of their concerns I do say to them that I am talking to th e Finance Minister . And the Finance Mini ster is assuring me that once he has the actuarial r eview he will be able to turn around and make the dec ision about the sustainability of the fund and be able to turn around and make an appropriate increase. And he has done that. And, as I say, he has been saying this from much earlier in the year and, therefore, I do not want people to turn and add some extra motive to this. The actuarial review enables us to understand and the Minister to understand how sustainable it is. And whether we like it or not we have to start understanding the social insurance contribution, the benefit that the seniors get , we have to understand how it got there and why it is the way it is. The Honourable Derrick Burgess mentioned the fact and the appreciation that it is a combination of the social insurance and what we would call the occ upational pension. And yes, rather unfortunately, ev erybody did not work for, and everybody did not have occupational pensions that were afforded them by their companies. But at least the Government, over 2322 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly time, has been able to try and move the social insurance forward to try and come up with a rate that is more appropriate to the circumstances. I think it is significant for us to understand that the Contrib utory Pension benefit pays out a pension which is 25 per cent of the median annual gross ear nings for Bermudians. And when you compare that to other places, which are 24 per cent, at least it indicates to us that it is at a level that would be deemed to be normal when you compare it to other jurisdictions. But that does not mean that as we go forward we are not mindful of the fact that there are a lot of Bermudi-ans who are out there relying on the pension fund, relying on the social insurance benefits they get as a way for them to be able to live and, if they do not have any other supplemental income, then it is putting a strain. And so that is why over time we have actually started to try and look at what money an individual has and how we can turn and reduce some of the strain of some of the other expenses that they have to cover out of that. A lot of reference has been made to the health premiums. And for a moment I am just going to remind us here in the House and the listening aud ience of some of the things that have affected us with respect to the health premiums. And I am not just going to talk about the fact that health premiums bear a relationship to the loss ratios, which are the claims that we are paying out all the time versus the prem iums that have been taken in, but I also think that lots of persons do not recognise that in the past . . . and sometimes we have to look backwards just so that you can look forward, and I am not talking about v ision) . But we need to remind the public that in the past w e did have lots of guest workers who were on the Island, but they actually did not . . . I know the Honourable Member talked about the guest workers and the impact on the wages and the impact on some of those other things . But there are some other sides that I think we need to understand. A lot of those guest workers were here and they were much younger in terms of the type of health that they had, they were much healthier, and therefore they contributed lots of premiums into the system . But they did not [ have] lots of expenses, lots of claims. So we had that benefit . So when we were talking about let’s get rid of guest workers , and all sorts of other stuff . . . and I know at the time lots of people only talked about the guest workers and the fact that per-sons did not have their properties and their rentals and all the other stuff . But they did not also realise that these guest workers were helping us to keep our premiums down and they were helping us to keep our claims experience down and the cost per population would also help us —
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, Honourable Member. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I think the Honourable Member may be mistakenly misleading the House when she s aid that we had the guest workers in Bermuda and it was keeping the cost of healthcare and premiums down. That is not …
Yes, Honourable Member.
POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I think the Honourable Member may be mistakenly misleading the House when she s aid that we had the guest workers in Bermuda and it was keeping the cost of healthcare and premiums down. That is not so, Mr. Speaker, because the history will show that health costs in this country have constantly, except for I think last year, have constantly and consistently risen every year without fail.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerMinister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, one of the elements which one has to recognise is that you . . . there is not just a question of whether the cost of health has gone up, but when you start looking at the cost of health per person, the …
Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, one of the elements which one has to recognise is that you . . . there is not just a question of whether the cost of health has gone up, but when you start looking at the cost of health per person, the people . . . the numbers of persons that we were spreading our premiums, our expenses, over resulted in a lower cost per person for the population. And that is the point I was making and I do not think the Honourable Member would turn around and be able to dispute that. But at the current time, Mr. Speaker, what I am trying to make persons understand is that if you have more people that are the base of the population and if they are not [making] as many claims, the claims experience can result in lower premiums that you have to charge. And that is the point that I wanted to make because it has been suggested that, yes, the cost of health has gone up and the premiums that the persons have to pay . . . and Mr. Speaker, I am not going to go back and check the trend line in terms of the increase in premiums since 2005, which I know they have doubled from 2005 to 2012 , and I know that they have not doubled from 2012 to 2016 , and I know in the last two years we have held the premiums level. But the point I want to make, Mr. Speaker, is that we are not just saying that we do not understand the i mpact that the health premiums are having on the pop ulation. We understand that it impacts them because it is something that comes out of their pocket. But also, Mr. Speaker, and I guess everybody has a different way of looking at how you see what happened. I heard the Honourable Member talking about the indigent clinic and talking about persons going down to the in digent clinic and not liking to go there because people would know that you had challenges. Mr. Speaker, I also have had lots of people telling me that they liked the idea of going to the clinic. And I never called it the “ indigent ” clinic because to me it was something that was tied to a subsidy that was done many years ago. But it had nothing to do with the people who were there and the challenges that they were [having] and it had nothing to do with the fact that they deserved to have a good health sy sBermuda House of Assembly tem to take care of them. And the fact that they could go there and being at the hospital they had the range of all sorts of [services] , the individuals that were there rendering their service did not treat them any differ-ently than anybody else. They came t here, they got good service and so, from our perspective, I do not want us to think that we look at individuals —even now—to say that because they qualify for subsidy . . . and we keep reminding ourselves . . . subsidies were things that the Government gave with respect to the population as a benefit. Now whether it was an aged individual who got a benefit, they were given a benefit from the Government to say that we are going to take care of your expenses and we are going to make a contribution to it. So when you turn around and you start looking at some of the things that have been thrown out with respect to the fact that the social insurance [benefit] has not increased, or is now just increasing after five years, I think we have to understand that when we came in the Finance Minister found that the cupboard was bare. And I have to recognise, and I think we all need to recognise, that in the past when some of these benefits were given out, which were things like, you know, your reduction in your land tax and being able to have a discount on your car [licence], all of these things . . . yes, they were benefits that were given out . But they had a price. So the Government was able to take some of the money that was in the cupboard and say , All right, I’ve got money in the cupboard. I can turn around and I can distribute these things because the population will feel good about the gift they were getting. But like with every gift , you always have to turn around and . . . it is never a free gift ; it is always paid for. And in the past when it was paid for , you had a nice wor kforce with lots of people there. The working public turned around and paid for the gifts. And so right now when we came into Government , you had the Minister of Finance having to look and say , I have got to make sure that I balance the budget and I’ve got to make sure that we look at what we have to do. Now, I want people to recognise that seniors were very important because I think they keep forgetting that, as it relates to the seniors, the subsidy was still there as something that was given to them, but also with respect to the HIP and FutureCare, Go vernment makes contributions to those funds to keep the cost of the premiums down. That is Government money which goes to keep the cost of the prem iums down. So from that respect there is recognition that our seniors are important and, therefore, there is recognition that Government is trying to use its money and spread it around because we recognise that healthcare is an important expense. With respect to some of the other concerns that were raised, I know we have talked about the cost of living increases , and I know that there has been a suggestion of different ways in which some of the more affluent could be taxed. I am not going to go into that because I know that the Finance Minister has already said that he is looking at the tax base, and he is looking at ways to make changes to how each person in Bermuda makes their tax contribution. But I do want, Mr. Speaker, to make sure that we not leave an impression that our seniors are not important , because they are. We would not have turned around and started to talk about . . . I mean, not only the age ing and disability services, not only talking about making sure that we put more emphasis on them . But also talking about what we are going to do with respect to changing the legislation so that we can focus more on issues with respect to seniors. There was a suggestion that we are not tur ning around and understanding some of the health challenges that sen iors have. We are; which is why we are turning around and have the age ing at home pilot and the a geing at home benefit. This is recogni sing that seniors were spending lots of their money having to go and live in homes and, therefore, if they could age at h ome this would put money back in their pockets, this would also make sure that their families would be able to better care for them. With respect to the suggestion of the Al zheimer’s and the dementia, we do recognise that that is a problem and that is something that we are wor king on. We have a group, which is part and parcel of the Seniors Advisory Council, which is looking at these things. What I found interesting was that when I first came and I got involved and was looking at the Ministry of Health, I understood (because I do not know whether a lot of people did understand) that Sy lvia Richardson was originally set out to be a facility which was going to effectively handle Alzheimer’s and dementia cases . While it might have been created, but the programm e, et cetera, did not exist. And so right now we are in the process of looking at how we can turn and have a facility that can deal with these i ssues. Now, I did also hear someone make reference to the fact and ask why I have been saying that Go vernment should not go into this, that we should have the private sector . The reason I say this, and I continue to say this, is the fact that the more that Government gets involved in doing something as opposed to facilitating something, the more you end up having the [number of people] that Government has under their civil servants getting larger and larger and the more constraints you put on the Government. Regar dless of which Government of the day it is, it is impo rtant for us to set up regulations. It is important for us to set up a playing field that the private sector could feel that they wanted to get into, and then we can regulate the performance and we can regulate what is being produced. I keep reminding ourselves, and I want to r emind the listening public, that right now, if you start to look at the opportunities , if we are able to have health 2324 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly insurance to cover some of these items, these needs that the seniors have, then it makes it more financially viable for the private sector to come in and to open up the types of rest homes and nursing homes and some of what I call the intergenerational -type homes that are really necessary. Because we understand, from the forward- thinking point of view, that more people are going to live longer. Unfortunately, more peopl e are also living longer with disease than they did before, so we have to turn and we have to make sure that there are facilities out there able to cook for them. Mr. Speaker, we also have to understand that as we go forward we have to recognise that in Bermuda if we are able to turn and stop the trend of people who are having dementia and Alzheimer’s and reduce the trend, that also works. Because it has also been determined that for a percentage of the people who get Alzheimer’s and dementia is the factor of things like, you know, the factor of how active you are, the factor of the mental stimulation, so there are a number of things that can reduce the numbers or the percentage in your population that actually get it. So I am not saying that we are going to stop it, but we understand and we are looking at all these things. So our whole premise of ageing well in Bermuda, our whole premise of the Well Bermuda strategy is to turn around and focus not only on our general population, but also our seniors, to make sure that the impact on the seniors is reduced. I think, you know, to suggest that just because we have not been able to increase it up until now somehow implies that we do not care, that we are not putting as much emphasis . . . you know the only thing . . . and a point was made earlier . And, Mr. Speaker, I try not to get into what I call “ rock throwing, ” but every now and then you have to just turn around and say,. . . you know, if you go there, you have to decide that the rock is going to come back. Bec ause there was talk about the amount of money that had been spent on . . . if you did this project there was $500,000, if you did these other projects . . . and mounting up and basically saying, Well, you could get $2 million. Well, Mr. Speaker, I have to turn around and I would have to go back and I would have to say, let us look at some of the projects that had the overruns. If you did not have that overrun, there is money there. So you cannot . . . you know , one of the difficulties of when you try and go back and look at where money has gone and you try and use hindsight, then you have to turn and say there was lots of money that was available when the Government took over and, ther efore, the money was spent on a range of activities. I am not going to go back and say if we were the Government we would we have spent as much money on that particular project. All I am going to say is that money was spent and the money is not there. And the same way, if you want to go around and say $500,000 and whatever else, if you put it all together you can get some money, you can do that. Hindsight, as I say, has—and it is a word that I do not use —vision. And so , Mr. Speaker, I just want the general public to know that just because the Finance Minister has started to bring this forward now, if he could have been able to do it sooner, I know he would have because we have actually had conversations about b eing able to do something about the plight of our seniors, being able to do something about the sustainabi lity. But now h aving gone backwards, I would like to go forward for one brief moment because I think it is important. The public needs to understand that when we do have more jobs in Bermuda, and I do think that it is now starting to come, we have the pr ojects that are c oming, we have the Consumer Price Index, we have the indication that there is more money being spent on construction materials and a range of other things that indicates that sales are going up —that is the beginning. And I have lots of people in the real e state sector telling me about projects and properties . That means more people getting jobs. And that will mean that there will be a growing workforce. That will also mean more people in the numbers of people that we have to have health insurance. That will mean the things that we are doing with respect to the claims experience and we are actually very co nsciously looking at the things that are dealing with, with respect to generating claims activities, which might be outside of the norm. We have to turn ar ound and understand if we can drive the cost of health claims down, if we can increase the numbers of persons that are out there supporting the insurance that we are charging, then we can drive the premiums [down]. And we have committed ourselves, Mr. Speaker, to mak ing sure of what we can do for our seniors by holding the line on the basic health pr emium, by coming up with some of the pilots with r espect to the seniors who actually have lots of chronic diseases to deal with, case management, as I say, ageing at home, these are the things where the seniors will get the benefit. As I sit down , I do not want our seniors to feel that we do not understand that certain things are affecting them and we do not understand, as it relates to the cost of living, that it is affecting them negatively. Because another thing that I need to remind the general public of is, the same way we are working with PAHO [Pan American Health Organization] to look at getting drugs from their global fund so that we can reduce the cost of these drugs , and if we can reduce the cost of the drugs , that means that the seniors who are on these drugs will be able to pay less for them. So, we are doing lots of things on lots of fronts, Mr. Speaker, and I want our public and I want us in this House to know that in recognition that while we cannot do everything, we are trying to do lots of pieces. And the Finance Minister is giving more as it
Bermuda House of Assembly relates to the social insurance, backed by what we are doing in terms of holding the line in terms of heal th premiums, what we are doing with respect to prescri ption drugs, what we are doing with respect to having the health clinics (because remember there are health clinics in Somerset, St. George’s , and Hamilton) where our seniors are able to go and get a lot of what I call the basic elements with respect to your blood pressure, you know, the normal things that you need to have taken care of to make sure that you maintain a healthy life . . . these things Government is doing because it is the way of making sure that the seniors get whatever we can give them, even though we would like to give them more, but get whatever we can give them to make sure that the seniors who have earned this benefit are able to know that their G overnment does care about them. And I just want to say that we do care and we will continue to work with the Finance Minister, we will continue to work with the seniors as to things that we can do to make their lives longer and healthier , and we will continue to work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Mini ster. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 15, MP Roban. You have the floor.
Mr. Walter H. RobanThank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I am happy to make a contribution to t he di scussion, debate, on the Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Contributions and Benefits) Order 2016. Mr. Speaker, I think perhaps the one thing people out there in the public perhaps are not necessarily understanding is …
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I am happy to make a contribution to t he di scussion, debate, on the Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Contributions and Benefits) Order 2016. Mr. Speaker, I think perhaps the one thing people out there in the public perhaps are not necessarily understanding is that a lot of this stuff that we are doing here around this . . . some issues which can be very complicated and it is not easy to get your head around. B ut there is one thing that I think the contribution of the Honourable Member who sits in constituency . . . I am sorry, the Honourabl e Minister of Health, I cannot . . . her constituency number just left my mind . But this is not a simple issue. The issue of pensions . . . all the issues that pertain to our senior population are not simple. They are not simple for the One Bermuda Allianc e any more than they were for any other previous Government. And some of the things that the Honourable Minister just disclosed and articulated are the same things that the previous administration was dealing with. No different. I can remember, as a form er Health Minister, having some of the same discussions. And it is not like we do not . . . we are not aware of the resources and expertise and other things that the Minister has available to her as she deals with the matters con-cerning health and seniors and all these things. They are the same resources that I had available to myself and anybody who came after me and anybody prev iously. There are some very able and well -trained experts in the Health Ministry who are dealing with these policy issues every d ay and trying to get their heads around the major questions of the costs that the Go vernment, particularly, is confronted with, with how we are going to manage the resources that we have available and the dollars that are made available to manage the issues that concern our seniors. This Order that we have here is a part of that effort, though not a part of the Health Ministry’s brief, it is a part of another aspect of Government. And as we know from the data, you know, basically the health care dollar in Bermuda is kind of creeping towards like a billion dollars of total expenditure and that expend iture is shared by Government and the private sector. Though a little bit more, I think, is the [public] dollar. But these are issues that are continuously and, perhaps, even more so increasing for the private . . . I am sorry, for the public sector in many ways. We have the FutureCare Programme, we have the subsidy, which includes indigent . . . and just to comment on that, I know the Minister tried to sort of talk away the sort of concept of the label of “indigent” and how their reintroduction of, I guess, their version of what was the clinic , does not necessarily have that stigma. Well, that is what the law says. The law refers to that category of persons as “i ndigent.” Now, perhaps we can change the legislation and give it another term that might be more palatable, but it does not change the constituency that that par-ticular is identified in the Health [Insurance] Act 1974, I think it is, or 1970, or what thes e components are to do with what they do. And certainly the previous administration made a choice to remove that particular structure b ecause we felt a certain philosophy over the dignity of the patient and the dignity of our senior people, or the dignity of those who had a level of helplessness in our society who required the Government to be supportive of their care, and we wanted to afford them a better quality experience. Now, I do not know any of the data around how that particular service has operat ed since it has been put in place. I have not heard anything about it in this House. Perhaps it would be interesting to know from the Minister at some future point (it may not be material to this debate) as to the comparative expenditure. How much were we spending on the persons as they took . . . or were being afforded private care over us affording them the service at this new clinic? What is the sort of comparative cost? Is it more of a savings or have we essentially added more expense to our necessity t o take care of this group of people? I go back principally to pensions, but I say all that, Mr. Speaker, to say these are complicated ques-tions . They are not simple in any way. And I am sure, 2326 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly and I know that this Minister is an extremely bright and intell igent person, so I am sure it is no less of a challenge for her than it has been for any Minister who has held that place within her party or in any other. These are tough questions and they are hard an-swers. And not only are the answers hard, but once you find an answer you still have to be finding answers as you go along because the questions of our seniors and how we deal with their care and their needs, whether financial or health, are ongoing questions. This is about human beings so they will be here forever, these questions will be here forever, and will have to be answered forever. What we do about pensions is going to go on forever . As long as there are people who exist and live on the I sland of Bermuda, the question of how we manage this issue of our pensions and how we balance that with the r esources available to the Government is going to be an eternal question. So even though this is an answer today, the Minister has got to be looking for a new answer tomorrow. That is the reality. And yes, the P rogressive Labour Party has its own observations about what the Government is doing, what it has done for the past three and a half years, but that is because that is what we are required to do. And we have our own record around this which people can exami ne, of what we did from when we became Government up until 2011. We did our best to maintain a steady rate of increases. Now, this Go vernment has not maintained the same momentum, but I am sure there are all types of very valid reasons which the Finance Mi nister and his colleagues can say why. And fine, we do not need to get into any heavy detail of what those are, but the reality is that that has had an impact on the senior population and it is not an impact that can be erased by one increase of a benefit. Some might argue that this whole system of pensions has been underfunded, or perhaps has not adequately provided what it needed to provide since its inception. So people have been perpetually playing catch up. Or , as the reality is, as some of my honourable colleagues have already stated, the very nature of Bermuda’s society and the huge income gap between the people of African descent over those of European descent has also played a dynamic in this in that the black community , which, essentially, has been the less economically prosperous community, did not have the education and the means and the resources to understand how, when this pension sy stem was set up, it could be properly applied to their overall lifespan in reference to what some people perhaps saw it to be their only income. But the nature of employment back in the 1970s was different from employment now. Now pe ople are afforded . . . whether you are a chambermaid, or a person who is a sanitation engineer, or you are a CEO, we all essentially ha ve access to the same i n-formation and care or advice on how we manage our finances. Back in the 1970s insurance companies were not giving people advice on pensions , on how to manage their pension for their life. So some of the people who were paying into pensions did not have a clue. So now we are confronted with some of these income disparities from the same people who may have started paying into this situation in 1970. And then we also have the people who, perhaps, had a whole working life prior to 1970 and when 1970 came along they had no pension. But it is only in very recent times, Mr. Speaker, that people have been afforded the know ledge and opportunity and the means to understand how they can appropriately fit a pension into their working life. In fact , these days the insurance companies virtually demand you come and talk to them about it , you know . That is what they do. And your employer says , You will go to that pension consult ation or you might not keep your job. . . well, maybe not that harsh, but they make it a requirement for you as an employee to get that consultation. That was not the case back in 1970 or 1980, maybe not up until very recently. And so not only with that lack of knowledge, lack of information, lack of resources, the overall di sparity of income that perpetually has been a part of the experience of being black in Bermuda, which is being addressed by some other parties in this House now, we have issues of race as well all fixed into this. And the data speaks to this. There is a disparity of income between people of certain ethnic groups in this country over others. That also is playing. So these are very complicated issues . And, yes, we have seen over the last three years some very dramatic changes in the situation as it pertains to our seniors. My Honourable Acting Leader who sits in constituency 18 talked about the change of the CPI [consumer price index] over a certain period of time, the change of certain other disparities which have seen increases dramatically higher than the inc reases that pensions have been maintained. Now, I do not know (because this is not an area of my expertise) whether it was even possible or feasible for the pension over the time that it has ex-isted to track and sort of ameliorate or close that gap. I do not know. That is, perhaps, a task for a very experienced analyst or a forensic accountant or som ebody who knows these things. I do not know. Maybe it could have been done. Perhaps it can be done. Perhaps there is a way that if the tax review that the Ho nourable Finance Minister presumably is going . . . some of these questions can be answered. What can we do to perhaps make this Contributory Pension that is a part of the fabric of our working society better? What are some of the things that we can do? And p erhaps it is somewhat like the health question. How do you ensure that our outcomes are better than what we are experiencing now? And there
Bermuda House of Assembly is a combination of things you can do—better diet, more exercise—there are certain things that you can do with your health to make sure your outcomes are better . . . regular visits to the doctor . Well, maybe there are some prescriptive things that can be done to the pension system in Bermuda that can ultimately make sure that maybe in five, ten years, our outcomes , the benefits that are afforded our population, knowing that we have an increas e in the population, knowing that we have a declining labour population, there is no guarantee that we are going to increase our labour population dramatically enough and in a reasonable time to compensate for some of what the decline has been. Mr. Speaker, so what can we do with the situation we have now to . . . steps that we can do and the combination of things to better the outcomes going down the road? Whatever those issues are right now that certainly Members of my party have tried to talk about, we are not going to solve them within the term of the OBA in the next year in which their term somewhat ends. And whoever wins the election after that may not even fix it then, but we c an start some of the steps now. We can investigate the steps now, we can know what those steps are right now or in a reasonable amount of time so that, perhaps, in 10 years or maybe even less, we can have a better quality pension that fits the circumstance s that we are in with the growing seniors population, with their needs and health needs having to be satisfied, with the greater expense and cost that it is going to [cost] the community, not just the public sector, which has decided in the past , certainly five or six years , to take a greater burden of that obligation with the creation of other plans and even this Honourable Minister , Ms. Atherden, has added some features to the plan that seemingly are to act ually address the needs, specifically of the seni ors population, which means that their needs are som ewhat the priority going forward. So, we are going to have to perhaps even create more stuff that we have not even thought about, Mr. Speaker, to deal with this issue. And I make my comments in that vein, in that what we do to the pension contributions now is just dealing with the here and now. And the Honourable Members on this side have made many points, some of them critical, but some of them also trying to look at issues that continue to plague our sit uation. The Honourable Member from constituency 5 talked about how many persons have had to retire, seemingly feeling that they are forced to retire. But the reality in Bermuda, Mr. Speaker, is that . . . and I saw this as we were devising and rolling out the Futur eCare Plan in the phases . Actually people between 65 and 75, most of them are still working in Bermuda. Most of the senior population does not actually retire at 65 anymore. And even if they do legally retire from their jobs , they go find somethi ng else. That is the r eality. But we have a system that almost brings about a requirement for them to stop doing what actually they need to do in respect of whether we tell them to do it or not. So these are the issues that centre around this issue of pens ions. There are income issues which also have to do with our taxation system. There are issues that are even concerned with health. There are so many and it is complicated, Mr. Speaker. So I say this (and I am coming to a conclusion with my comments , in that we have already said that certainly we are supportive of this ): There are many issues that centre around this that make the question of this i ncrease for many people . . . e ven though it is needed, there are certain mixed feelings about it. People may f eel that the Government has given their spending priorities to other things rather than to the issues that they feel this pension may be seeking to address, that benefits have gone to other things that do not need the benefits. And even though we talk abou t things like the America’s Cup and that here, Mr. Speaker, and we sometimes juxtapose that against issues of expenditure, it is not a question of whether those events like the America’s Cup are we lcome or not, it is the priority that the spending and the Government’s expenditure has been around that. These are the questions that the constituents put to us. These are the questions and concerns that are raised by people out there in the public , [it] is the question of priority and whether, despite the fact t hat the Minister of Health who just sat down, Mr. Speaker, and tried to make sure it was clear that their Gover nment is concerned about seniors and in that , it does not change the fact that people have felt that the amount of concessions that are given to certain interests, the maintenance of certain concessions that have been given in the past, the priority given to certain aspects of spending that impacts them, whether it be the pensions, whether it be education, whether it be less money going to the heal th subsidy for the hospital, the proposal to close things like Lamb Foggo . . . all of these things have impacted on how people feel. And it is partially the responsibility of the Go vernment to make people understand that these sy stems will be maintained, that their needs will be sati sfied, that things like a pension which has become, at least certainly since 1970, a level of certainty in the lives of persons . . . people know that they should be afforded a pension and they rely on that and it is something that they look forward to getting to assist them as they move out of their working life, that it is not going to be depleted, that it is not going to be eroded, that their earning power, irrespective of a r ecession, that perhaps this is going to be maintai ned and that they are going to feel a sense of security and a level of comfort , and that the Government and the public sector are looking out for them. So it is important that the Government understand this. We realise that the questions around these 2328 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly issue s of pensions which pertain to our seniors are complicated. But it is also imping ing on the Gover nment to be looking ahead, Mr. Speaker, and making decisions that make sure that any shortcomings that may exist here and now that they put in place a pr escrip tion to deal with them over time so that future generations of Bermudians who will have the benefit of such structures will see their position improved. I think that is important. That is how you build or rebuild the confidence, rebuild the trust, and rebuild the hope that people must feel in how they are governed and with those who are charged with taking care of their welfare. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. T hank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Minist er for Home Affairs, Minister Patricia Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I intend to be brief in my contr ibution to this …
All right. Thank you. T hank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Minist er for Home Affairs, Minister Patricia Gordon- Pamplin. You have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I intend to be brief in my contr ibution to this debate. I want to start off by acknow ledging and thanking the Finance Minister for recognising the importance of bringing pension increases to this honourable House for the benefit of our seniors. Well, we have heard, Mr. Speaker, Members opposite indicate that , you know , an election must be coming and, hence, we are responding to what might be . . . what might go down as a nice sweet pill, candy, as it were, because an election is coming. You know , it is interesting as I sit on this side and I watch the development of the political playbook on the other side of the aisle. So now it is like , this week it is an election is coming, we care and they do not. That is this week’s playbook coming from Me mbers opposite. But here is what is interesting, Mr. Speaker, that I do not believe that the Finance Minister has for one second thought in terms of an election coming. The Finance Minister has listened to Members on our side of the aisle and he has been able to . . . he has been required to balance the money that he has available to create additional benefits for our senior s with respect to their pensions and to balance that against the servicing of the debt that we have to service. I think that it is important for people to understand, Mr. Speaker, that when you borrow money you have to pay it back. And in paying it back you do not just have to pay the principal, you are also required to pay the interest on that debt. And the debt service that we have inherited initially and with additional —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, Honourable Member. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. E. David BurtMr. Speaker, I in no way shape or form want to encumber the Minister from speaking, but the Minister is speaking about debt services and things which are associated with the consolidated fund and we are discussing the Contributory Pension Fund.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, carry on, Honourable Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, let me just say that the money that would be required in order to meet the additional expenditure for our seniors, as we have heard, we have heard go all over the map from the cost of health …
Yes, carry on, Honourable Member.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, let me just say that the money that would be required in order to meet the additional expenditure for our seniors, as we have heard, we have heard go all over the map from the cost of health care, to the cost of insurance, they raised . . .they raised FutureCare, they raised all the cost of living for our poor seniors . What the Honourable Members opposite need to consider, Mr. Speaker, is look at FutureCare, when we took over the Government —no, when they intr oduced FutureCare, let me go back to that, they intr oduced FutureCare for 65- year-old people with a pr emium cost of $300. That was for one year —$300. The following year they brought, Mr. Speaker, the second tranche of individuals who were eligible for Futur eCare, who were 70 and over, and their premium was $600. Today the FutureCare premium is down to $500- and-something. Yes, those who were paying $300 had their premiums increased over time, but those who were paying $600 had their premiums decreased over time. The purpose for which, Mr. Speaker, was that those people who came on board on the second tranche had no differential to the benefits and the menu of services that were offered to them other than the cost that they were paying in the premium. We took over the Government . We realised there was an inequity . Therefore, something had to be done to properly balance that particular aspect of things, Mr. Speaker. And in so doing we look ed at actuarial extrapolations to determine how this particular programme could be sustained and to be able to make it fair so that people are paying the same price for the same benefits that they are getting. So we put in a policy by saying if Government introduced into the fund "X”-amount of money, then we would be able to lower the premiums for those people who were r equired to pay $600- plus for their FutureCare prem iums. So when Members opposite say they on the other side raised the premium for FutureCare, that is not entirely accurate. I think that they have to under-stand that we had to fix something that was fund amentally flawed in the process.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYes, Honourable Member. Bermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. She said we had to fix something —they had to fix something—that was fundamentally flawed. Mr. Speaker, if you recall there was no F utureCare until …
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. Minister, carry on please. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, we had to fix something that was fundamentally flawed. It did not exist before, they brought it into being, they charged $300 for the people who came the first year, they charged $600 for the …
All right. Thank you. Minister, carry on please.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Speaker, we had to fix something that was fundamentally flawed. It did not exist before, they brought it into being, they charged $300 for the people who came the first year, they charged $600 for the people who came on in the second year —that was fundamentally flawed, and we fixed it. So the entire construct of it, yes, it did come under that former administration . I never had a challenge with that. I remember saying, Mr. Speaker, when we started talking about the benefits and started talking about the difficulties that seniors had, Mr. Speaker, we recognised that on this side of the aisle. We recognise that over the course of . . . I think I have got it here somewhere on a chart, Mr. Speaker, over the course of a nine- year, eight -year period of time from 2005 through 2012, a seven- year period of time, just the standard benefit HIP premiums had doubled from $136 to $272. This is the sort of increase that happened under that previous administration for which the seniors, who are now requiring money to be able to pay to live, had to find that extra money in order to pay some of those premiums. Mr. Speaker, these are things that gover nments have to wrestle with. And we have to look at how we can ensure that the benefits that our seniors are able to obtain in order to be able to live with are appropriate given the responsibilities that the Finance Ministry has in terms of the strain on the public purse and how we are able to filter money through to be able to pay for the various benefits. The Honourable Minister of Health spoke to the issue of the costs of healthcare and the premiums relating thereto and the claims experience relating to healthcare which helped to drive up the costs of healthcare, and we acknowledge that. But Mr. Speaker, when those costs increase, when those costs get higher, people have to pay for it. And they pay for it out of the pensions , you know, invariably out of the pensions that they have, out of the expendable income that they have at their disposal. And it has been a strain. And, you know, I would like for the Finance Minister to have been able to have said before, We’re going to put more money in and seniors are going to be able to get m ore benefit. And, you know , had he had the ability to do so he would have done so, because Lord knows that only a masochist would continue to be badgered by his colleagues time and time and time again and not respond. But that was not the case. The Honourable Member could only respond to the extent that there was money available to support what it was that he was trying to do.
[Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: And now, Madam Deputy Speaker, it has nothing to do with whether an election is coming or not. As I say, that is this week’s playbook coming from the other side. It has nothing to do with whether an election is coming. It has som ething to do with looking at the actuarial reports that have come out for the pension funds to be able to . . . because you will know on the opposite side of having increased benefits, there are increased contributions, that is just part of the equation to continue to make that fund sustainable. And that sustainabil ity is going to cost people more money , you know, your social insurance cost is going to go up. But you have to have an infusion of money into the fund in order to be able to have higher benefits coming out on the back end. I can remember very clearly when we started talking about having money coming in, money going out, it all falls in . . . whether we are doing this with this specific pension fund, whether we are looking at the consolidated fund, the principles are all the same. The principle says that you cannot spend more money than that which you have. So when I spoke about debt servicing, which is a stranglehold on us as a people, and we heard Members opposite criticise priorities in terms of , You found money for this and you found money for that, why couldn’t you find money for other things? And, yes, you know, when I look at inves tments in projects that are meant to reap benefits or to inure to the better good for the entire community, then I start seeing it a little bit differently than when we start raiding the public purse for capital expenditure and money coming out to pay for things that cost twice as much as they should have cost, because had that money been in the kitty there would be more money available for other things. I remember very cl early when I first came into this Ministry, I remember very clearly one Member opposite deciding that it was appropriate to sue me because I made the comment that if we had the money , the $15 million or whatever the millions were (it might have been six, I do not know, I cannot r emember the exact number at the moment ) that we put into Port Royal —
[Inaudible interjection] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: It was $15 [million]? 2330 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly —the monies that we put into Port Royal, if we had that money in the kitty there would be more money for the benefit of our seniors. A Member opposite decided he was going to sue me for making that statement because I refused to withdraw the fact that he asked me to say that his company did not make that much money. I never said that from the outset. I never . . . at no point did I ever say that the Honourable Member’s company made any or received all the money to which I referred to. We spoke about the cost of planting some grass, as I put it at the time as I remember, up at Port Roya l. That is what we spoke to. And, you know , that was fine for the Honourable Member , because what ha ppens when you start to engage in frivolous activities , they come to naught . And that is exactly what happened in that instance. I was never required to go before a judge because I believe that the sensibility pr evailed ultimately that people were saying, you know , You cannot put words in my mouth. I know very clearly and carefully what I articulated and as a result of what was articulated, there was no case to be a nswered, Madam Deputy Speaker. So these are the kinds of things that we have. Now, we talked about how things are a little bit difficult and, you know, the care and concern that Members opposite feel towards our population and how we can embrace t hem. You know , we had a Member who sat in this House, a former Member Jim Woolridge, who always said that the benefit that he had from being in the Government was that he had his back to the sun because he did not want to sit on the side of the Opposition and have the sun shining in his eyes. Well, I think the Members opposite are now experiencing that same feeling (that they are sitting opposite with the sun shining in their eyes ), and som ehow they are starting to think that maybe there is revelation here that they have some concern that Members opposite do not have. Well, Members can be absolutely assured that on this side of the aisle it is our intention to do the best that we can for the people of Bermuda. There are times when we have to be able to say no to certain things because we cannot afford it. We do not like . . . we do not politicise or we do not play political football with people’s lives. We look at what we can sustain and we put forward those projects and policies that are sustainable. And if that is a fault that we have , then let us be faulted forever, Madam Deputy Speaker, because when you start to spend money that you do not have, then you continuously run yourself into a hole , and you know , it is a deep hole from which you can, perhaps, ne ver recover. And these are the kinds of things that we have had to balance as a Government to ensure that we can provide for our people, that the money that we put into things like financial assistance and the like, a mammoth amount of money, but necessary because we have to ensure that our people are not left wanting for the basic necessities of life. I am not saying that the previous Government did not do that, they did. We have had to carry that on. We have had to ensure that we are looking at what polic ies can come into being so that there is an enhanced business appreciation for investment so that the benefits can be felt across the country. So when I hear Members opposite bring up, you know, America’s Cup and the priorities of this Government, I just hope that the benefits that will i nure to the people of Bermuda from the America’s Cup, that we can replicate that. And I say that because , you know , if we could see these types of things happening, so that people can have more and therefore feel less strai ned, then we will not have to have criticism . We hear that they support the increase in the pensions and, you know , they would be extremely foolhardy to not support it, but it is almost like , I support it, but . . . I give you credit, but . . . I think you did a wonderful job, but . . . and it is always that “but” that , you know , negates the whole benefit of what it is that they are supporting in the first place. So I want to just finish by saying that I applaud the Finance Minister for acquiescing to the C hinese torture of that water dripping on his head day after day after day coming from every one of the Members on this side of the aisle, coming from our constituents and knowing that he has had to respond, knowing that he then has to . . . the Honourable Member does not have any hair on his head as [he] says. The water wore through it all . But you know, it is a sensitive Minister who looks at the umbrella picture to understand what it is that we can do and what it is that we are unable to do. And now he fi nds himself in the position where he can increase the pension benefits and he . . . you know, it comes at a cost , and we recognise that. As the Honourable Member from [constit uency] 29 (I believe it is ) mentioned, the Honourable Member Mr. De Silva mentioned that people do not mind if you have to pay a little bit extra because somebody else pays . . . you know , can pay a little bit less and it kind of equates and balances out. And the Finance Minister has indicated he is looking at that entire structure. It was not going to be put in place for this financial year because, you know, you cannot do things because it is politically expedient. You have to do the things that make sense, sustainable sense. So, in order to be able to do something that is of that kind of benefit you have to ensure that you think it through appropriately , and that is one of the reasons why I applaud the Finance Minister for taking his time and looking at how we can create a better, more equitable system that the Members opposite never thought it was important enough to do, and now we are required to do it. Like I said, we continue to fix what they broke or continue to fix the things that they did not think were broken, did not understand were
Bermuda House of Assembly broken, and did not believe that they needed attention. Our Minister is looking at those things. We are putting in place policies that —
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThe point of order is? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is certainly misleading the House when she makes that statement about looking at things that need to be, you know, that were broken under us. I would just like to point out, …
The point of order is?
POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is certainly misleading the House when she makes that statement about looking at things that need to be, you know, that were broken under us. I would just like to point out, Madam Deputy Speaker, that before we introduced FutureCare there was nothing. When we had a $600 premium , people who were paying $1,200 and more opted for the $600 option. So let us just r emember that.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I think the Honourable Member’s point of order is probably about 10 minutes late, but anyway I will accept it . Some people are a little slower than others . Thank you, Member. But you know all …
Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I think the Honourable Member’s point of order is probably about 10 minutes late, but anyway I will accept it . Some people are a little slower than others . Thank you, Member. But you know all I say is that when the kitty was being raided, if we had that lev el of concern being expressed from the front and backbench—
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, point of order, Point of order! Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —and there would have been —
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerOne moment, I can only have one person speaking. Thank you. Your point of order is? POINT OF ORDER [Impu ting improper motive] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is [imputing] improper motive when she said when the kitty was being raided. I would like to have …
One moment, I can only have one person speaking. Thank you. Your point of order is?
POINT OF ORDER [Impu ting improper motive]
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is [imputing] improper motive when she said when the kitty was being raided. I would like to have that wit hdrawn plea se.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Well, when we were paying out twice as much money — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, point of order!
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerOne moment please. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: No, I will not wit hdraw that comment, Madam Deputy Speaker, because— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It is not her choice, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerCan I just . . . can I just hear it through, please , and then . . . thank you. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Madam Deputy Spea ker, when we had budgets for $68 million for Berkeley School and it came in at $120- something million, when we …
Can I just . . . can I just hear it through, please , and then . . . thank you. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Madam Deputy Spea ker, when we had budgets for $68 million for Berkeley School and it came in at $120- something million, when we had budgets for Heritage Wharf which came in significantly higher, when we had budgets for Port Royal that came through significantly higher, it meant that we were spending far more money than we ought to have spent . And as a result the kitty was being raided. You know , I am not saying anybody was stealing anything, I am saying money was haemorrhaging out.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you, thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 29. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. So the Honourable Member is admitting then that she, when she was a Member of the UBP, raided the kitty because we know that the airport went …
Thank you, thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 29. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. So the Honourable Member is admitting then that she, when she was a Member of the UBP, raided the kitty because we know that the airport went 100 per cent over budget, Westgate Prison went another 120 per cent over budget, so the Honourable Member is saying that they raided the kitty before we even became Government.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you, Member. Thank you. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, I am not saying that at all because the Honourable Member will know I was not a Member of this House during those days , so if …
Thank you, Member. Thank you. The Chair recognises the Minister.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, I am not saying that at all because the Honourable Member will know I was not a Member of this House during those days , so if the—
[Inaudible interjections ]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: I was not a Member of the House.
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: No, sir.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerMember, I should only hear one person— 2332 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of As sembly [Inaudible interjections ]
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerMember, Member! I should only ever hear one person speaking at a time. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. So if the Honourable Member wants to just to confirm his facts, if he sees it differently I am always happy . . . if I ever …
Member, Member! I should only ever hear one person speaking at a time. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. So if the Honourable Member wants to just to confirm his facts, if he sees it differently I am always happy . . . if I ever ma ke a mistake, I am the first to acknowledge it. But the Honourable Member is mi staken. I came to this H onourable House in 1999.
Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThe Chair recognises the Member from constituency 29. Your point of order is? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I said she was a member of the UBP.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerYour point of order is first . POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, she is misleading the House.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I did not say she was a member of the UBP when these projects were undertaken, I said . . . I did not say she was a Member of the House; I said she was a member of the UBP.
The Deputy SpeakerDeputy SpeakerThank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That is not a fact, but the Honourable Member will have the opportunity to confirm his facts if he so chooses. We know that that is usually not very important, but if he so chooses he can …
Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister.
Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: That is not a fact, but the Honourable Member will have the opportunity to confirm his facts if he so chooses. We know that that is usually not very important, but if he so chooses he can take the opportunit y to confirm his facts. But with that said, Madam Deputy Speaker, I just want to end by applauding the Honourable F inance Minister for being sensitive under these ci rcumstances and knowing that we do have support from Members opposite. T hey would like for it to be higher ; we would like for it to be higher . We would be able to make sure that it is higher as the economy gets better, as money is able to be expended in a more appropriate way, and as seniors are going to be able to find themselves in a situation in which they have better benefit s.
[Hon. K. H. Randolph Horton, Speaker, in the Chair] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Let me just also point out, if I do nothing else, Mr. Speaker, that if an ybody reaches the age of 65 and they are still working, it is important that they are aware that they are eligible to sign up for their contributory pensions. I say that because I believe that there may be a misunderstanding that as long as you are still working you are not entitled to get a pension. That works in terms of your . . . the pensions you might have on your job, as long as you are still working you may not be entitled to claim the benefits of those pensions. But for the purposes of the social insurance stamp that you are pa ying in, when you hit the ag e of 65 , you are eligible to make the application. A nd if you do not make it at the appropriate time, you are penalised. That is the way the legislation reads , and I just want to make sure that we do not have anybody being penalised by not being able to get the benefits out of the Contributory Pension Fund to which they have, not just paid, but to which they are entitled. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? Then the Cha ir will refer back to the Minister, Minister Richards. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have just one or two remarks, Mr. Speaker , insofar as the timing of this …
All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? Then the Cha ir will refer back to the Minister, Minister Richards. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have just one or two remarks, Mr. Speaker , insofar as the timing of this . As some of my co lleagues have pointed out, the timing of this increase has to do with actuarial review . As I promised in the Budget Statement earlier this year , we would review this once we had facts and figures in front of us. So we have done that and this is the result of it. Prior to that, quite frankly, Mr. Speaker, we have been . . . today we have been castigated for not doing something else since we have been the Gov-ernment . But the rule has been pretty well established that if you increase benefits and pensions , you have to increase contributions into the fund plus 2.5 per cent. And quite frankly, Mr. Speaker, we had to make a judgment call on whether we would cause people who are working in Bermuda to have to have a greater deduction taken from their pay packet during the time of a recession, and the judgment was made t hat the economy was too weak . People’s jobs were too fragile to make that call , so nothing was done up until now. So we felt our hands were tied during that period because there was no growth in the economy. There is growth now, so we can take action, it i s as simple as that. I think it is important to remember, Mr. Speaker, that the Government does not stand behind the Contributory Pension Fund. It does not. There is no Government guarantee on the Contributory Pension Fund, not like the PSSF, not like the Public Se rBermuda House of Assembly vice Superannuation Fund. The Public Service Superannuation Fund, if it runs out of money, the money has got to come out of the Consolidated Fund. Not so with the Contributory Pension Fund, which is social insurance. So it puts a greater burden on those of us who are managing that fund to manage it prudently because if that fund runs out of money, social insurance runs out of money. So that is really a very, very important thing to bear in mind when you start making, sort of, expansive statement s, some of which I have heard today. So the other thing, Mr. Speaker, is that the demographics are working against the Contributory Pension Fund. We all know that we have an a geing population here in Bermuda, like in other Western countries, and what that means is that there is a growing number of people taking money out of the fund and there is a shrinking number of people putting money into the fund. So that requires an extra set of prudential measures. Government does not stand b ehind it and demographic s are working against it. So we cannot just sort of say , Well, let’s increase the payout of this fund, without looking at the cons equences. The consequences in this case are the r esponsibilities , and are very heavy indeed. For us to increase payouts from this fund over the ability of the fund to pay would not be prudent, but would be reckless. And if we were proposing that t oday, Mr. Speaker, if we were proposing that today, then that would be purely a political gesture, but that is not what we are doing. We are making a prudential or prudent judgment here, a judgment based on facts, a judgment based on prudent estimates. So the charges that we are just doing this out of politics just do not hold water at all. Now, I was interested to hear the Honourable Member on the other side who speaks for Finance make the suggestion that the Contributory Pension Fund should be progressive. And, Mr. Speaker, that really was a cynically political gesture. It really was. The Honourable Member was in the Ministry of F inanc e for a number of years as Junior Minister and he did not do anything about it then. You know, Mr. Speaker, talk is cheap but actions are golden. Let us face it . All right? And we are taking action on that lack of progressivity. We are sticking our necks out; we are doing it on payroll tax. The other side did not do that . In 14 years they did not do it. The labour government did not do it, but we are doing it. So I do not want to hear any sort of groaning about a lack of progressivity in anything coming fr om that side because talk is cheap, action is golden, and we are taking action on that. In any case, Mr. Speaker, the whole construct of the Contributory Pension Fund is not based on an ything to do with income. If we had to do that, it would have to be a total reconstruction of the fund and the assumptions and everything. And you know, perhaps, that might come one day, but the judgment of this Government is to do something about the tax system first, and that is what we are doing. There has been talk about seniors having less money , less discretionary income because of sk yrocketing healthcare costs. That is true. There is no doubt about that. But Mr. Speaker, skyrocketing healthcare costs in Bermuda has a reason behind it. And healthcare costs in Bermuda have skyrocketed because of the US modelled chargemaster system that was introduced by the former Government. It really skyrocketed healthcare costs in Bermuda where now healthcare in Bermuda, I read somewhere r ecently, is the highest in the world, even hig her than the model that we modelled it after, the US, which is the second highest in the world. A ll right?
[Inaudible interjection]
Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: So you know —
[Gavel] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: It is easy to say , Yeah, you know, all this money is coming out of pensioners’ pay packet s, but you have got to take responsibility for your actions. You know , we have got a system now that charges everybody for every Band- Aid, every little aspirin, everything! And we have a system that has become enormously expensive, enormously burdensome. So when Members on the other side start to make those statements, we have to remind voters, people out there listening, who bears the responsibility for that. These, in fact, Mr. Speaker, are PLP chickens that have come home to roost. There was also a matter of enforcement that was mentioned. That is a problem. Enforcement of mainly delinquent employers, people who withhold money from people’s pay packet , and then the employees think that the contribution has be en made to the government and, in fact, the employer spent the money. This is clearly stealing; there is no other word for it. It is a fraudulent transaction —fraudulent —it is stealing. Recently we have increased–– I certainly had to bite the bullet on this one because I did not want to do it––but Mr. Speaker , we have increased the staff of the Department of Social Insurance to deal with this matter. I cannot remember the number of people I authorised, but we had to authorise quite a few more people working in that department to tackle this problem. So it is a problem that is known to us and we have taken action to try to fix that problem. Now, Mr. Speaker, I have been characterised this afternoon as a “Grinch ” and the Grinch that stole Christmas , or whatever other kind of Grinch, for telling people that money does not grow on trees. But you know, Mr. Speaker, I do not know how a statement of 2334 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly fact can be offensive, particularly when it was not, as I remember very clearly —and there are recordings to show it —that I did not say that in an offensive tone, [but] as a statement of fact to make a point about this same issue that just because you want it, it does not mean that it can happen. Even to a situation, Mr. Speaker, just because you need it, it does not necessarily automatically follow that you can get it because there are other things out there that come to bear on whether or not you can get your needs satisfied. So that was not said in an offensive tone at all. But what I can say, Mr. Speaker, is that this G rinch is taking away something. This Grinch is taking away the out -of-control deficit that he inherited from an irr esponsible former Government. I am taking that away. This Grinch is ensuring that the grandchildren and the descendants of the same seniors w e have been tal king about inherit a solvent Government and inherit a solvent social security fund. That is what this Grinch is doing about this problem. So that is what this is about today, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is about solving a difficult situa tion but within the parameters of prudent financial management. That is what this is about. So with that, Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask that the Order be approved and that a message be sent to His Excellency the Governor.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honour able Member. It has been moved that the Order be approved. All those in favour , say Aye. Those against , say Nay. AYES.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Ayes have it , so the Order has been approved. [Motion carried: The Contributory Pensions (Amendment of Contributio ns and Benefits) Order 2016 was considered by the House and approved. ]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd we will now move on to Order No. 3 in the name of the Minister of Finance as well . . . Order No. 4, sorry. It is the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016. So the Cha ir will recognise the Minister of F inance again. BILL SECOND READING …
And we will now move on to Order No. 3 in the name of the Minister of Finance as well . . . Order No. 4, sorry. It is the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016. So the Cha ir will recognise the Minister of F inance again.
BILL
SECOND READING
INVESTMENT FUNDS AMENDMENT ACT 2016
Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 be now read a second time. And in doing so, Mr. Speaker —
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSorry, Minister . Carry on. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: That is okay.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerSorry. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Well, it is nice to have some levity in an otherwise gloomy day. Mr. Speaker, so I am presenting to the H onourable House today the Bill entitled the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016. The purpose of the Bill before the House t oday …
Sorry.
Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Well, it is nice to have some levity in an otherwise gloomy day. Mr. Speaker, so I am presenting to the H onourable House today the Bill entitled the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016. The purpose of the Bill before the House t oday is to make amendments to the Investment Funds Act 2006 to enhance the powers of the Bermuda Monetar y Authority to effectively regulate the inves tment fund industry in Bermuda and to meet appropr iate international standards by means of the making of directions in case of emergency, the imposition of civil penalties, the publication of a censure, the maki ng of prohibition orders, the use of injunctive relief , and to introduce associated procedures. Mr. Speaker, the Bermuda Monetary Authority is the single regulator of the financial industry in Bermuda with the principal objectives that include the s upervi sion and regulation of any financial institution that operates here. In order to achieve that purpose, in 2012 amendments were made to the Insurance Act 1978, the Banks and Deposit Companies Act 1999, the Investment Business Act 2003, and the Trusts (Regul ation of Trust Business) Act 2001. Those amendments introduced a consistent and enhanced set of enforcement powers and associated procedures across all of these sectors. The Corporate Service Provider Business Act 2012 included the same set of uniform powers. Mr. Speaker, the Bill introduced today intr oduces the enhanced enforcement powers and proc edures to the investment fund industry in Bermuda and is necessary in order to achieve uniform applicability of enforcement powers across all financial sectors of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, these enhanced enforcement powers are further required in order to meet appropr iate international standards being set by, for example, the Financial Action Taskforce (FATF) and the Eur opean Securities and Markets Authority. Increasingly , the quality and standards of a jurisdiction are being evaluated by reference, either wholly or in part, to the powers available to the regulator to manage misconduct and enforce regulatory standards. The previous amendments to the legislation relat ing to the other financial sectors underli es the lack of regulatory po wers in the investment funds area and it is highly desi rable that such powers be available for use, and as a
Bermuda House of Assembly demonstration to international standard setting bodies of the quality and sta ndard of the regulation of the f inancial sector in Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, the Bill makes provision for such matters as: the issuance of directions, the imposition of civil penalties, the making of a prohibition order, and the power to publish information a bout any matter to which a decision notice relates. It also makes prov ision for the BMA to issue and publish a Statement of Principles which sets out the matter in which it will . . . or proposes to act in relation to such matters. The Bill makes further provision for associated procedures designed to achieve due process. Mr. Speaker, the Bill went out for consultation, and a number of comments were received by stak eholders within the investment funds industry , and those comments were considered. Mr. Speaker, thanks are extended to the agencies which have provided assistance in the preparation of this Bill, including, of course, the Bermuda Monetary Authority, the Bermuda Asset Man-agement Committee, obviously, the Minister of F inance, and the Attorney General’s office. And with those comments, Mr. Speaker, I i nvite other Members to participate.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 17, the Acting Opposition Leader —18 —excuse me.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAbsolutely, that is what I was thinking of.
Mr. E. David BurtNo problem, Mr. Speaker, I understand. Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. As with all of these types of bil ls, they typically enjoy bipartisan support. I call it the “Axis of Bermuda Inc.” where the regulator, the legislators, and industry, work hand in hand to make sure that we …
No problem, Mr. Speaker, I understand. Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. As with all of these types of bil ls, they typically enjoy bipartisan support. I call it the “Axis of Bermuda Inc.” where the regulator, the legislators, and industry, work hand in hand to make sure that we can advance what we need to do to make sure that we maintain our reputation and I guess meet all of the various changing international standards. I understand the reason for this. We had received a briefing from technical off icers inside of the Ministry of Finance that has been shared with our Members of caucus. We have no objection to t his Bill and it can move forward. The only question that I would have for the Minister of Finance is, can he give us an update on the . . . I guess you could say, growth or progress that the Government has had with attracting or increasing the asset management business in Bermuda. I under-stand that the reason for the Investment Funds Act, for these changes, which were made in lots of other regulatory acts, were to make sure that we could maintain our attractiveness so as to get more funds here and to compete against one of our competitors, of course, the Cayman Islands. So I was hoping when the Minister has a chance to respond if he could update the House and the public on the progress in that sphere and whether or not we are actually making progress in the asset management space. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Member. Any other Members care to speak? Then Minister we revert back to you, Minister Richards. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have my technic al people here, maybe they can come up with those numbers. Certainly I do not have them in …
Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Members care to speak? Then Minister we revert back to you, Minister Richards.
Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have my technic al people here, maybe they can come up with those numbers. Certainly I do not have them in my head. But with those very brief remarks, Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be committed.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you. The Minister has moved that the Bi ll be co mmitted. Any objections to that? There are none. Then I would ask that the Deputy Speaker please take the Chair [of Committee] . [Pause] House in Committee at 3:57 pm [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE …
The ChairmanChairmanMembers, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consideration of the Bill entitled Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman , I …
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that we move clauses 1 through 3. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Clause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. 2336 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of As sembly Clause …
It has been moved that we move clauses 1 through 3. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Clause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. 2336 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly Clause 2 amends the principal Act in section 2 to insert and define the terms “warning notice” and “decision notice .” A warning notice, which is fully d efined under the new section 67J, shall be given by the Authority where it proposes to impose a civil penalty under the new section 67A. A decision notice, which is fully defined under the new section 67K, shall be given by the Authority where it decides to impose a civil penalty under the new section 67A. Clause 3 amends the principal Act to insert a new section 2B to make provision for the BMA to i ssue and publish a Statement of Principles which sets out the manner in which the BMA will or proposes to act in relation to such matters as: the power to grant or revoke an authorisation; the exercise of its powers in relation to the grant, revocation, and restriction of a licence under Part III of the principle Act; obtaining and requiring the production of documents; the iss uance of directions in accordance with sections 30 and 51; the imposition of civil penalties under section 67A; the publication of a s tatement relating to an authorised fund or fund administrator under section 67C; the power to make a prohibition order under section 67E , and to publish information about any matter to which a decision notice relates under section 67M. The BMA is required to also publish a new Statement of P rinciples or a statement of change of principles in the same manner in which it published the original Statement of Principles in the event it pr oposes to make a material change to the published version. Those are claus es 1 through 3.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? There are no Members, so we will approve clauses 1 through 3. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that cl auses 1 through 3 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.]
The ChairmanChairmanPlease proceed. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I would like to move clauses 4 through 13 please.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. It has been moved that clauses 4 through 13 be moved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Clause 4 amends the principal Act in section 26(1)(b)(i) to provide that the statement confirming that the fund has at all …
Thank you. It has been moved that clauses 4 through 13 be moved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Clause 4 amends the principal Act in section 26(1)(b)(i) to provide that the statement confirming that the fund has at all times during the preceding year been in compliance with its requirements under the Act , et cetera, shall now be provided in such form as the Authority may prescr ibe. Clause 5 amends the principal Act by repealing and replacing the current provisions of section 31 with provision for the issuance of either a warning or decision notice by the Authority where it proposes to or gives a direction under section 30 of the principal Act. Clause 6 amends the principal Act by inser ting a new section 31A to empower the Authority to give directions in the case of urgency, similar to the powers exercised under other regulatory Acts. Clause 7 amends the principal Act by repealing sections 34 and 35 as new measures and proc edures are proposed to be adopted under the Bill in this regard. Clause 8 amends the principal Act in section 47 to include a requirement for a licensed fund admi nistrator that fails to submit the relevant statem ent of compliance or noncompliance under Part III to the Authority to be liable to a civil penalty of $5,000 for every week or part of a week that it is in default. Clause 9 amends the principal Act by repealing and replacing the section 48 providing for offences in line with the new disciplinary measures being intr oduced by the Bill. Clause 10 amends the principal Act by inser ting a new section 51A to provide for the Authority to issue a direction in urgent cases. Clause 11 amends the principal Act by repe aling and replacing section 53 to require that where the Authority proposes or decides to issue a direction to a fund administrator, then the Authority must give that fund administrator a warning notice and a decision notice, as the case may be. Clause 12 amends the principal Act in section 55 to provide for a licensed fund administrator or an operator of an authorised fund (as the case may be) to appeal against a decision of the Authority taken in relation to the imposition of a disciplinary measure. Claus e 13 amends the principal Act in section 64 to define the documents to be produced to a person appointed to carry out an investigation on behalf of the Authority and to provide for the recovery of costs of an investigation. Those are clauses 4 through 13.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Bermuda House of Assembly Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 13? There are no Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 13. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I would like to move clauses 4 through 13.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that clauses 4 through 13 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 4 through 13 passed.]
The ChairmanChairmanPlease proceed. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I would like to move the other clauses —
The ChairmanChairmanThat would be— Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: —clauses 14 through 21.
The ChairmanChairmanCorrect, thank you. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Clause 14 amends the principal Act to inser t a new section 64A to widen the scope for investigations by the Authority beyond the current scope of investigating non- licensed authorised or exempted business. The new section will provide for investigations with …
Correct, thank you.
Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Clause 14 amends the principal Act to inser t a new section 64A to widen the scope for investigations by the Authority beyond the current scope of investigating non- licensed authorised or exempted business. The new section will provide for investigations with respect to breaches of requir ements imposed by or under the Act , and investigations into the fitness and propriety of individuals who perform functions relating to a licensed activity. In addition, power is given to investigate investment funds or fund administrators in relation to a business carried on at the time when they were licensed; and investigations in relation to the ownership and control of former investment funds or administrators at a time when they were licensed. Clause 15 amends the principal Act in section 65 by changing the exist ing heading to “Power to r equire production of documents”; making consequential amendments to the section and extending the applic ation of the provisions of the section to any person connected with a person under investigation. Clause 16 amends the principal Act in section 66 to make consequential amendments in connection with the new provisions on investigation proposed under the amended section 64. Clause 17 amends the principal Act to insert new Parts VA “Disciplinary Measures” and VB “N otices” and new s ections 67A to 67M. The new prov isions will empower the Authority to impose civil pena l-ties for failure by licensed persons to comply with any requirement of or for contravening any prohibition i mposed by or under the Act. In determining the appr opriate le vel of penalty, the Authority is required to take into account the provisions requiring that the fine must be effective and proportionate to the breach as well as dissuasive. The BMA is precluded from imposing a fine if the BMA is satisfied that the person concerned took all reasonable steps and that they exercised due diligence to ensure compliance. Clause 18 amends the principal Act to insert a new section 73A to provide a mechanism for the r ecovery of civil penalties imposed under the Act. Power is given for the BMA to recover the amount owing by way of civil proceedings in court. Provision is made requiring that where a person is convicted of a crim inal charge; no civil penalties can be imposed relating to the same matter and vice versa. Clause 19 makes provision for consequential amendments to the principal Act. Clause 20 amends the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2013 so as to “grandfather” funds exempted under the repealed section 7 for an add itional year in order to give adequate time for relevant funds to be reclassified under the proposed exempt fund regime. Clause 21 provides for commencement of the Act by notice published in the Gazette and provides for the appointment of different days for different pr ovisions. Those are clauses 14 through 21.
The ChairmanChairmanClauses 14 through 21, thank you. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I move them, Madam Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanAre there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 14 through 21? There are no Members that would like to speak to clauses 14 thro ugh 21. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: So—
The ChairmanChairmanPlease move them. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: —if we are —
The ChairmanChairmanWe are going to move— Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: We moved all the clauses as printed and we are now going to move the Preamble, Madam Chai rman?
The ChairmanChairmanNo, we are going to move clauses 14 to 21 first. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Okay, okay. 2338 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of As sembly
The ChairmanChairmanAre there any Members that have any objection to moving clauses 14 through 21 as prin ted? Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 14 through 21 passed.]
The ChairmanChairmanAnd we do have one Schedule before the Preamble. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Oh, yeah, I am sorry about that , Madam Chairman. Can we move the Schedule please?
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Schedule be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Schedule passed.] Hon. E. T. (B ob) Richards: I move the Preamble now.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I move the Bill be r eported to the House as pr inted.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. [Motion carried: The Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Committee of the …
It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
[Motion carried: The Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.]
[Pause] House resumed at 4:10 pm [Hon. K. H. Randolph Horton, Speaker, in the Chair]
REPORT OF COMMITTEE
INVESTMENT FUNDS AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Honourable Members. The second reading of the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 has been approved. We move on now to Order No. 5 which is the America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 , and that is in the name of the Minister for Economic Development , Dr. Grant Gibbons. …
Thank you, Honourable Members. The second reading of the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 has been approved. We move on now to Order No. 5 which is the America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 , and that is in the name of the Minister for Economic Development , Dr. Grant Gibbons. You have the floor.
BILL
SECOND READING
AMERICA’S CUP AMENDMENT ACT 2016
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 be now read the second time.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you. Are there a ny objections to that? So, Minister , please carry on. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. Mr. Speaker, the purpose of the Bill before the House today is to make various amendments to the America’s Cup Act 2015, which is the principal Act, …
Thank you. Are there a ny objections to that? So, Minister , please carry on.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. Mr. Speaker, the purpose of the Bill before the House today is to make various amendments to the America’s Cup Act 2015, which is the principal Act, including provisions for the protection of America’s Cup [AC] related logos and words, land tax relief for ACBDA, customs import duty relief for uniforms for the America’s Cup teams, customs import duty relief for goods for the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup Bermuda team and the Endeavour Community Sailing team, and to address certain temporary importation relief procedures, which when operational are problematic for Her Majesty’s Customs. Since the introduc tion of the Act in early 2015 the America’s Cup Event Authority (that is the ACEA) has established additional logos for the America’s Cup Louis Vuitton World Series of events , as well as the event names. The Bill seeks to have the brand protec-tion provisions in section 19 of the Act extended to these new names and logos. Mr. Speaker, one of Bermuda’s responsibil ities for AC35 is to deliver certain venues in the Royal Naval Dockyard for the purposes of the event. The venues include sites for the team bases, media and broadcast centres, storage facilities, volunteer and hospitality centres, parking lots, boat berthing, back of
Bermuda House of Assembly house operations, and the America’s Cup Event Vi llage. ACBDA Limited leases the venues from the West End Development Corporation on behalf of the Government. Under section 3(8) of the West End D evelopment Corporation Act 1982, ACBDA Limited, as a WEDCO tenant is liable for the payment of land tax under the Land Valuation and Tax Act 1967. The Bill seeks to exempt ACBDA from land tax for venues leased in Dockyard for the purposes of the America’s Cup so that Government monies which would otherwise have been paid in respect of land tax could be spent on the delivery of other commitments for the event. Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members will recall the tight time frame available to prepare Dockyard for the relocation to Bermuda of the Oracle Team USA and the consequent ial construction work in tenancy which commenced in early 2015, therefore, the Bill seeks to make the exemptions retrospective from the operative date of the America’s Cup Act 2015. Mr. Speaker, as previously announced, [the] ACEA and ACBDA have engaged a Bermuda team to participate in the America’ Cup Red Bull Youth Races. ACEA also established the Endeavour Community Sailing Pr ogramme which is intended to be a benefit for young local sailors and a legacy of the 35 th America’s Cup. Companies have been established for both organisations. Since they operate outside of the ACEA and the teams, these companies are not ent itled to cust oms import duty relief for goods required for the programmes, which are supported by don ations. The Bill seeks the same provisions of Customs Procedure Code 4140 of the Bermuda Customs Tariff which allows 0 per cent duty for other youth organis ations and t he St. John’s Ambulance Brigade to be extended to the Endeavour Community Sailing [Programme] and the America’s Cup Red Bull Youth Bermuda Team for uniforms and equipment. Currently , the uniforms for the team sailors that participate in AC35 World Series, Qualifiers , and Finals do not qualify for import duty relief and are extremely high tech and costly. The Bill seeks for the teams to be exempt from paying customs import duty on the uniforms that are used during the AC35 Sailing events. Mr. Speaker, goods imported by ACEA, the Regatta officials , and the teams for the purposes of the America’s Cup are imported under temporary i mportation reliefs. This has proven to be problematic since some of the goods are not considered temporary and also some types of goods will be difficult to trace, that is, for example, materials required for boat repairs, including glue and paint which will not be available for inspection by the Customs Department at the end of AC35. In other words , the materials will be consumed when applied to the boats, which will subsequently leave the I sland and the materials will not be available in the state in which they originally ar-rived on the Island. Another example is office furniture imported for the America’s Cup office that is intended to leave Bermuda at the end of the event. All importers are eligible to claim the relief in respect of qualifying goods. When a supplier does make a claim for relief , that supplier is at first the holder of the authorisation to import the relevant goods. That authorisation must be transferred to the client, in this case the America’s Cup Event Authority. This transfer necessitates an administratively burde nsome three- step process which has become a cha llenge for the Customs Department. As such, the Bill seek s to insert a suitable new end- use relief with an eligible beneficiary restricted to ACEA and any of its designated commercial partners , or a t eam or any of its designated commercial partners or a Regatta o fficial. The end- use conditions would require that the qualifying goods must be used only for the purposes of importing, installing, using, maintaining, removing or exporting goods correctly imported by an eligible beneficiary under Customs Procedure Codes 5006, 5008 , and 5022, which are temporary importation r eliefs. The Bill also seeks for the amendments to be made retrospective with effect from the operative date of the America’s Cup Act 2015. This will allow the necessary corrections to entries recorded in the Cus-toms database so that the relevant goods are assoc iated with the new end- use relief. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you very much, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 33, MP Jamahl Simmons. You have the floor.
Mr. Jamahl S. SimmonsWe will be supporting this Bill and I think when we looked at the Minister’s presentation the requests that the Government is making are reasonable and acceptabl e. One myth that has been out there in the community is that the Progressive Labour Party does not support the America’s Cup. …
We will be supporting this Bill and I think when we looked at the Minister’s presentation the requests that the Government is making are reasonable and acceptabl e. One myth that has been out there in the community is that the Progressive Labour Party does not support the America’s Cup. There is a myth that we want to see it fail. And I am here to reinforce that this is not the case. We on this side understand the importance of this to our economy, we understand the hope that it will engender in the hearts of our people, and we understand the benefit it will produce at some level on the global stage. Our concern from the start has been return on investment, inclus ion, opportunity , and diversity. Those have been our concerns, that the widest range of people in our country get the full impact of this fantastic event. 2340 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly And Mr. Speaker, we on this side will continue to push for Bermudians to get the full benefit of thi s. And we have to take this moment to commend the America’s Cup group and Sir Russell Coutts for the Endeavour Community Programme in terms of being able to widen the scope of sailing. For many of us as young people this was, rightly or wrongly, viewed as a white sport. It was viewed as exclusionary . It was viewed as exclusive and elite and privileged. And the opportunity for our young men and women to have a chance to be exposed to this aspect of their country, this aspect of our history, and become a part of it is, I think, going to have benefits socially for years to come. But Mr. Speaker, when we look at how the America’s Cup was introduced, the Government has made some missteps in my opinion and in our opinion that have made the transition a little bit less smooth than it should be and it made support [for it] a little bit slower to generate than we would have hoped. It was announced in the middle of a very bitter by -election, so the announcement was viewed through the scope by at least a significant part of the community as pol iticking, rightly or wrongly. The motorcade that launched the Cup’s arrival in Bermuda was noteworthy for its lack of diversity , and even while it is a minor point, the greeting of the Cup with the Scottish bag-pipe player was not reflective of the community and our culture, only a part of it. And so these messages created, in some people’s minds, a sense that this is not about us, this is not for us, this is for other people. And I think that when we go through and we look at the A CBDA, which is doing fantastic work, it is not as diverse as it could be. And all of these things together created the impression and reinforced the belief that this is not for everyone. You compound that with . . . when you see companies benefitting such as A.S. Cooper’s and Gibbon’s Company, if it was a Pr ogressive Labour Party Minister , who had a Simmon’s company that was benefitting, there would be certainly a much more hostile reception from the OBA -leaning media. And so when we combine these things it creates a sense that this is not for us , and I think we encourage the Government to continue to push, to join us in pushing for more inclusion, more diversity , and more participation from the masses of our people. A lot of our Bermudians want this to suc ceed and I truly believe, having been to the AC in Chicago, Bermuda can put on the best —the best —showing of any of the other countries that have ever had this b ecause we have what they lack —Bermudians. And so, Mr. Speaker, I believe that as time gets closer people will begin to see the benefits. I believe people will begin to get more excited about it and they will begin to become more willing to participate. But we have to remain vigilant, we have to remain firm, and we have to remain resolute that Bermudians will come first with the America’s Cup. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you . Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? Then the Chair recognises Dr. Gibbons again. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the support shown by the Opposition and I am also pleased that the Honourable Member …
Thank you . Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? Then the Chair recognises Dr. Gibbons again.
Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the support shown by the Opposition and I am also pleased that the Honourable Member Jamahl Simmons was able to get a first -hand perspective out in Chicago. I think he got a real sense of the excitement and the dra w that this kind of event can produce. Bermuda got, as I think he would have been first -hand witness of, tremendous exposure out there, and I think if we are guilty of an ything it is probably perhaps not adequately communi-cating the benefits of this. I think the country got a better perspective after the October World Series Event last year. The ef-forts by both the ACBDA and the Bermuda Economic Development Corporation, the Small Business Group, the number of small merchants that were involved in that (I th ink close to 60), the numbers that have been involved even up at Dockyard with the Foil Fest that was up there the other day, which was an entirely sort of charitable exercise by some of the teams and by the ACBDA putting it on to get more community i nvolvement —I think all those things are starting to, perhaps, break down some of the perceptions. It was interesting when I was out in Chicago and speaking to one of the d eputy mayors out there whose title actually involves economic development, he was saying t hat although Chicago put in a bid for the America’s Cup, and I think they were down to one out of four in the subsequent rounds of elimination as to who would host, he said it was difficult for the Mayor’s office to actually support the bid because he said it was all seen as an issue, at least in some quarters, as involving rich guys with toys. But he said in the end they were very , very disappointed and partic ularly he was very disappointed because, as I said ear-lier, Chicago depends a lot on tourism for i ts economic driver and he said the extraordinary visibility provided by the America’s Cup was something that he felt very disappointed about in not being able to host. As the Honourable Member will know (who just spoke) they had an aggregate of something l ike 200,000 people watching out there and the number of TV views and others was quite extraordinary. The Honourable Member is quite right, the Endeavour Sailing Programme has touched over 1,000 students at this particular point. They do not look like me by and large, and it has also gotten a lot of sailing clubs involved in the process as well. So as far as the sponsorship is concerned, I do not believe Gibbon’s Company is a sponsor. We were not able to come up with the, shall we say, the appropriate sponsorship fee as other companies
B ermuda House of Assembly have, but I think that was a decision by the America’s Cup Event Authority who chooses their sponsors on the basis of bids that come in. And , unfortunately , in that case we missed out. But suffice it to say , that I think a lot have benefitted, a lot of landlords have benefitted, particularly up in the West End, and I think slowly —the Honourable Member was correct —I think slowly the community is beginning to understand that this is really putting Bermuda centre on the world stage. It should be very exciting next year. And we are getting a lot of positive benefits out of it, not to mention the fact that I think, personally, the teams have done an extraordinary job—the ACEA— getting into the community. People who are now based here have really been involved in charit able work. They are in the schools with the STEAM programme. They have made a lot of effort to int egrate themselves into the community. And I think a lot of Bermudians have neighbours that are sailors or are associated wit h it. I think there were a couple thousand people that went to the team bases a week or so ago. So I think slowly we are getting there, but I un-derstand that there was always the bias that this was for a certain elite sailing crowd and I think that Bermudi ans are starting to see that that is not necessarily entirely the case. So with that, Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the support from the Opposition and would move that the Bill be committed.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Minister. It has been moved by the Minister that the Bill be committed. So I would like to ask that the Deputy please take the Chair [of Committee] . [ Pause] House in Committee at 4:27 pm [ Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL …
All right. Thank you, Minister. It has been moved by the Minister that the Bill be committed. So I would like to ask that the Deputy please take the Chair [of Committee] . [ Pause] House in Committee at 4:27 pm [ Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL AMERICA’S CUP AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Th e Chairman: Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consideration of the Bill entitled America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I am going to suggest to you that we move clauses 1 through 6.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that we move clauses 1 through 6. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Please proceed. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. Clause 1 basically provides for the title of the Bill, which is the America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016. Clause 2 …
It has been moved that we move clauses 1 through 6. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Please proceed. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. Clause 1 basically provides for the title of the Bill, which is the America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016. Clause 2 amends section 6 of the principal Act, which refers to customs duty. Subsection (4) is amended to introduce revised modifications to CPC 5022 in the Sixth Schedule to the Customs Tariff Act 1970 in relation to goods imported by the America’s Cup Event Authority or any of its designated commercial partners, a Team or any of its designated commercial partners, a Regatta Official, or any person importing for the sole purpose of supply to such per-sons. Clause 3 inserts new section 10A of the principal Act which provides that land tax shall not be charged, levied, or collected in respect of any valu ation unit with a commercial end- use which is leased by ACBDA from the West End Development Corporation solely for the purposes of the America’s Cup. Clause 4 amends Schedule 1 to the principal Act by adding new protected words. Clause 5 amends Schedule 2 to the principal Act by adding new protected emblems as set out in the Schedule to the Bill. Clause 6 is the commencement and provides for the commencement of the Bill. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 6? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 33. You have the floor.
Mr. Jamahl S. SimmonsYes, Madam Chairman. We have no objections to this as put forward.
The ChairmanChairmanThank you, Member. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 6? The Chair recognises the Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I appreciate that support. I would like to move the two Schedules or do you want me …
The ChairmanChairmanWe will move clauses 1 through 6 first. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Okay, sorry. I move clauses 1 through 6 as printed. 2342 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of As sembly The Chairman: It has been moved that clauses 1 through 6 be approved as …
We will move clauses 1 through 6 first. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Okay, sorry. I move clauses 1 through 6 as printed. 2342 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly The Chairman: It has been moved that clauses 1 through 6 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to.
[Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 6 passed.]
The ChairmanChairmanPlease proceed, Minister. Dr. th e Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, Madam Chairman, I would like to move the two Schedules —
The ChairmanChairmanOne Schedule? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, one Schedule, I beg your pardon. I would like to move the Schedule.
The ChairmanChairmanAre there any objecti ons to that m otion to move the Schedule? Are there any Members that would like to speak to the Schedule? No Members that would like to speak to the Schedule. Please proceed. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that …
The ChairmanChairmanThank you. It has been moved that the Schedule be a pproved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Schedule 1 passed.] Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Sorry, I move the Preamble.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. I move that the Bill be reported to the House.
The ChairmanChairmanIt has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Com mittee of the whole House and passed without amendment.] [Pause] House …
It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Com mittee of the whole House and passed without amendment.]
[Pause]
House resumed at 4:33 pm
[Hon. K. H. Randolph Horton, Speaker, in the Chair]
REPORT OF COMMITTEE
AMERICA’S CUP AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you, Members. We have had the secon d reading of the America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 approved. And we now move on . Order s 6 through 13 are carried over. And we have the second reading of the Statutory Interest Rate Reduction Act 2016 in the name of …
Mr. E. David BurtMr. Speaker, carry it over please. Carry it over, Mr. Speaker.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerCarried over? Okay. And Orders 15 and 16 are also carried over. I would like to recognise now the Minister for Finance. Minister Bob Richards, y ou have the floor. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 21 …
Carried over? Okay. And Orders 15 and 16 are also carried over. I would like to recognise now the Minister for Finance. Minister Bob Richards, y ou have the floor.
SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21
Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 be now read a third time by its title only.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAre there any objections to that? Carry on. [Motion carried: Standing O rder 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING Bermuda House of Assembly INVESTMENT FUNDS AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill do now pass.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. It has been moved that the Bill be passed. All those in favour , say Aye. Those against , say Nay. AYES.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Ayes have it, so the Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 has been passed. [Motion carried: The Investment Funds Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Chair will now recognise the Mini ster for Economic Development , Dr. Grant Gibbons. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that S tanding Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill ent …
The Chair will now recognise the Mini ster for Economic Development , Dr. Grant Gibbons.
SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that S tanding Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill ent itled America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 be now read the third time by its title only.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAre there any objections? There are none. [Motion carried: Stand ing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING AMERICA’S CUP AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016. I now move that the Bill do pass.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right, it has been moved that the Bill be passed. All those in favour , say Aye. Those against , say Nay. AYES.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Ayes have it, so the Bill is passed, the America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016. [Motion carried: The America’s Cup Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Chair will now recognise the Honourable Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that we adjourn until next Friday, 8 July.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAll right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Learned Member from constituency 31, MP Shawn Crockwell. You have the floor.
The SpeakerThe SpeakerAnd just before you do, Honourable Member, I just want to recogni se the former MP , Arthur Hodgson, my running mate, is sitting in the House. [Desk thumping]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe Chair will now recognise MP Crockwell. RESIGNATION FROM THE OBA
Mr. Shawn G. CrockwellThank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my preparation for my presentation today, I found that I have drafted multiple speeches to try and get the right balance. I received a few calls from individuals that I hold in high regard last night, and the theme and advice to me …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in my preparation for my presentation today, I found that I have drafted multiple speeches to try and get the right balance. I received a few calls from individuals that I hold in high regard last night, and the theme and advice to me was to be measured. That is what I wil l attempt to do. But I have to tell you that the first draft was way too harsh, so I had to dispose of that. The second draft was way too emotional, so I put that aside. And then I decided to do something, Mr. Speaker, that I believe that I need to do a bi t more often, and that is I said a prayer. And when I said the prayer, Mr. Speaker, the answer that came back was, just tell the truth and the truth shall set you free. And so, Mr. Speaker, the creation of the One Bermuda Alliance was my idea, and that is what makes today a bit more difficult for me. Merging of the Bermuda Democratic Alliance with the United Bermuda Party, Mr. Speaker, was an idea that I had, and I shared it with my BDA colleagues, including my very good friend the L earned Member , Mark Pett ingill, next to me here. And I will tell you, Mr. Speaker, it took me one year to convince my colleagues it was a good 2344 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly idea. And then once we got to that stage, and it was after the by -election that was caused by the retirement of Dr. Ewart Brown, and the BDA’s quality candidate came third, and they realised the efficacy of the merger made sense. And then it took us one year to negotiate the merger. And Mr. Speaker, I took the idea to the Honourable Premier , Michael Dunkley, who has been my friend for many years, which also makes today very difficult, and we thought that it was something we could do, and it took us a year to negotiate the crea-tion of the OBA. And the merger, Mr. Speaker, if you look at the name—One Bermuda Alliance—alliance is a nother name f or coalition. So the recent discussions that have been had, and comments I have made about my interest and my desire of forming a coalition government , is nothing new for me, Mr. Speaker. The formation of the OBA was just that, it was a coalition. It was a coalition of the BDA, which repr esented a progressive and grass -roots political ph ilosophy —young people, new people, into politics — with the United Bermuda Party, which represented experience and a fiscal conservative political philos ophy. And the challeng e that I had, Mr. Speaker, because let us not forget that in 2009 I resigned from the then- UBP, and I resigned from the UBP because despite the fact that I shared a conservative fiscal approach, the United Bermuda Party, Mr. Speaker, fell out of touch with the people of this country. And they did not get the majority of the electorate. And I had a challenge with that, and that was part of the reason why I resigned. And so when we created this One Bermuda Alliance, Mr. Speaker, the vision was for the new OBA to allow the philosophy and the vision of the BDA to dominate, Mr. Speaker, the new party, because that is what was fresh, that is what was attractive to the electorate, and have that blend and it is a coalition, a coopting of two organisations. And the plan and the v ision were to grow as a grass -roots party. And so, Mr. Speaker, what has happened is, instead of the OBA reflecting the vision of the BDA, particularly under the current leadership, Mr. Speaker, the OBA has embraced the philosophy and the met hodology, Mr. Speaker, of the UBP —a philosophy of my way is the right way , Mr. Speaker. And it has go verned in a way that clearly . . . and we have seen this in the last two years in particular, where there is a di sconnect with the people of this country. And not ne cessarily because of the decisions that have been made, because there have been difficult decisions, and decisions that had to be made to move this country in the right direction. This Government inherited difficult situations, particularly when we talk about the economy. So we had some tough decisions. And I have always said that difficult decisions will attract criticism, because no one likes to deal with difficult decisions. But som etimes it is not what you do, Mr. Speaker, it is how you do it. And so we have had a methodology of arr ogance, Mr. Speaker, coming from this Government — my way is the right way , Mr. Speaker. And that is why we have had all of the protests that we have seen in the past three years, which have been unprecedented in number, not just the frequency of them, but the amount of individuals that were protesting , because of the methodology and the disconnect. Because the fact of the matter, Mr. Speaker, is that in 2012 the people of this country did not vote for the United Bermuda Party. The people of this country voted for the One Bermuda Alliance . And they saw something new, something fresh. And they thought they were getting a different vision. But what they have received, Mr. Speaker, is the UBP. And if the One Bermuda Allianc e Gover nment do not make the necessary adjustments, you have to remember, Mr. Speaker, the United Bermuda Party lost three consecutive elections for a reason. And had we not merged, had we not created the One Bermuda Alliance, had we not brought in the fresh, new ideas and faces and visions, and philosophy of doing things, we would not have won 2012. We would not have won. And so I was very proud of the fact that I had a significant hand in it . Not just myself, it was other members, my honourable and learne d friend , Mark Pettingill, was involved in that, and many others that sit in this C hamber . The former Premier Craig Cannonier played a pivotal role in that, Mr. Speaker. But we forfeited our position and, in my view, under mi sguided leadership, we have gon e back to the very thing that I left, Mr. Speaker, in 2009. Now, I am not going to rehash the unfortunate events surrounding the immigration protest, Mr. Speaker . But let me say that was the event that culminated in my resignation from the Cabinet, because I had consistently failed in having the council I was pr oviding, and not just myself (this is not about me) , but today I have to explain why I am taking the decision that I have taken. Because time and time again when those of us who were trying to advise the Government on a certain course of action, and time and time again that old UBP methodology and philosophy would prevail, and time and time again we would get the same r esults, and I was frustrated with that. I was not just there to be window dressing, Mr. Speaker. I expected to be there to have influence and bring the philosophy that I embraced, and others, and have that make an impact on the policies and on the direction of the Government. So when I resigned, I offered an olive branch, Mr. Speaker, because on the day that I resigned, and I shared this with my parliamentary colleagues, my heart and my spirit and my conscience wanted to go Independent then, on that day . But I resisted it and I
Bermuda House of Assembly offered an olive branch that I would stay. We had a budget looming. The Finance Minister has enough burden to bear. We had to get the budget passed, and I did not want to cause any more confusion. And I certainly did not want to destabilise the Government at that time, and so I said I would stay. And I expected that the olive branch would have been appreciated and, even in many respects, reciprocated in treatment towards me as a colleague. I went back into private legal practice, and I have to say that I was quite pleased that I immediately was able to acquire a respectable volume of clients. And quite a large, probably about 60 per cent of my clientele, Mr. Speaker, had issues against the Go vernment, whether it was a wrongful dismissal from a government department, whether it was an application to the Liquor Licensing Authority, whether it was ap-pealing a decision of the Chief Immigration Officer . The largest entity in this country is the G overnment . The largest employer in this country is the G overnment. There is going to be a plethora of legal disputes against the G overnment. And so they came to me and they sought my assistance . And I have to tell you that I acted for these individuals . And to my astonishment, Mr. Speaker, I received a letter from the Attorney General, and I will not get into the details of the letter, because that is client privilege, Mr. Speaker, at this stage. But I r eceived a letter from the Attorney General which i nstructed me that because the Honou rable and Learned Member , Mark Pettingill , was a former Attorney General of this country, that he a nd I, and anyone else that worked at the firm, were prevented from representing any client against the G overnment — completely and totally absurd. Unheard of. Of all of the former Attorney s General that we have had in this country that have represented clients against the Government . . . as a matter of fact Mr. Speaker, my honourable and learned business par tner is a well -known, highly respected litigator, that has litigated up to the Privy Council multiple times. If this instruction is to be followed it wil l completely paralyse his practice and destroy at least 60 per cent of mine. I was astonished that as a former colleague of the Cabinet I would be told that I cannot freely practice my profession in my country. That is economic, Mr. Speaker, intimidation. Mr. Speaker, there is a report in today’s Royal Gazette , in relation to an immigration raid on my home. Again, I am not going to get into the details of this because there are individuals that I do not want to expose, including the company that I hired two years ago. Two years ago I hired this company , on the referral of a very prominent family, to clean my house. And they been cleaning my house and doing a fantastic job, Mr. Speaker, for two years. Not one complaint. Stellar job. Come once a week for four hours, once a week . I had no issue. The primary cleaner I know is married to a Bermudian, and has children from a Bermudian. Now I do not know everyone that came to my house . But I can tell you that . . . because, of course, during the day I am at work, but I did find out that there was a directive, Mr. Speaker, because of some suspicion that the company may have had an illegal worker on their staff . There was a directive to apprehend this illegal worker at my house. And I had three immigr ation officers co me to my house and thoroughly search my house— a former Minister of the Government, Mr. Speaker.
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Mr. Shawn G. CrockwellAnd so I view . . . I hear people speaking. And I do not know if they have a problem with it . This is the truth. And if you cannot deal with the truth, then I am sorry, Mr. Speaker, but this is what happened to me. These …
And so I view . . . I hear people speaking. And I do not know if they have a problem with it . This is the truth. And if you cannot deal with the truth, then I am sorry, Mr. Speaker, but this is what happened to me. These are facts. And I have a responsibility to my constituents and to the people of this country to explain why I am taking to my feet today . Okay? When I hear d Dr. Brown in his press conference say , Why are they going after him? And he says, Because when a black man stands up to the esta blishment, they come after you. Well, I can say, you know what Mr. Speaker ? I am living it. I am living it, Mr. Speaker.
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Mr. Shawn G. CrockwellWhen my uncles told me stories when I was growing up about how if you went up against the establishment you could get your mor tgage pulled . . . I used to hear those stories, Mr. Speaker . And I use d to think it was an exaggeration. Well, …
When my uncles told me stories when I was growing up about how if you went up against the establishment you could get your mor tgage pulled . . . I used to hear those stories, Mr. Speaker . And I use d to think it was an exaggeration. Well, I do not anymore, Mr. Speaker, because I am a former colleague and this is happening to me, Mr. Speaker. So what can I do when you have this level of mistrust?
The SpeakerThe SpeakerYou have about three minutes left.
Mr. Shawn G. CrockwellThank you, Mr. Speaker. And so, Mr. Speaker, this is not an ambush. I have met with the Premier. I have expressed my concerns with him. I met with him shortly after this inc ident. I met with him after I received this letter. And I have t o say, …
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And so, Mr. Speaker, this is not an ambush. I have met with the Premier. I have expressed my concerns with him. I met with him shortly after this inc ident. I met with him after I received this letter. And I have t o say, to date, I have not received any satisfactory response. But I am expected to just be quiet and carry on. Well , that is just not my personality, Mr. Speaker. And so I feel that it has now become unwor kable for me to remain in this organisation. I wil l stand in this Honourable House as an Independent Member. 2346 1 July 2016 Official Hansard Report
Bermuda House of As sembly I will continue to discharge my duty the way I have always done. I can stand on my record in this Honourable House, Mr. Speaker. I come every week, prepared, Mr. Speaker. There are probably more words and Hansard attributable to me than most , because I come every week and I discharge my duty, Mr. Speaker, in this House and I will continue to do so, and work hard. And I am not closed to working for this Government, because there are good people in th is Government, Mr. Speaker. But there are some, Mr. Speaker, who cannot shake that old UBP way. And Mr. Speaker, for that, I have to resign. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The SpeakerThe SpeakerThank you . Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? [Gavel]
The SpeakerThe SpeakerThe House has adjourned until Friday , July the 8 th, 2016. Thank you all. [Laughter] [Gavel] [At 4:56 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 8 July 2016.]