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March 21, 2016

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 21, 2016
Session 2015/2016
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647 speeches from 26 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Members, good morning.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker The Minutes of the 7th, 9th and 11th are deferred. MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Honourable Members. First, Ho nourable Member L. K. Scott, from constituency 30, and Member . . . Honourable Members will note the Speaker is standing. Will you move quickly to your seats? Move quickly to your seats. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, the Speaker is on—his —feet! [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker I will repeat that. Honourable Member, L. K. Scott, from constituency 30, and Honourable Member Z. De Silva, from [constituency] 29, are a bsent. Honourable Members, Monday, March the 14 th, 2016, was a historic day in our country. It saw thousands surround the House of Assembly and pr event …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to this? [Motion carried: Standing Order 14 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, please carry on. BILL DISCHARGE AND WITHDRAWAL OF BILL [Standing Order 48] BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION AMENDMENT ACT 2016 1542 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Under provision of Standing Order 48, I move that …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Member. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will first recognise the Ho nourable Premier. Premier Dunkley. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good morning, Mr. Speaker and colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. INFORMATION COMMISSIONER’S REPORT 2015 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of this Honourable House of Assembly the Information Commissioner’s Report 2015. Thank you, sir. The S peaker: Thank you, Premier. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. FEES AMENDMENT (NO. 2) REGULATIONS 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, with the Governor’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Government Fees Amendment …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you very much, Mini ster. I think you have a second? PENSION COMMISSION REPORT 2010 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Yes, sir. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Pension Commission Report 2010.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Economic Development. Minister, Dr. Gibbons, you have the floor. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS (LNG), VIABILITY OF IN BERMUDA REPORT Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Viability of Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) in Bermuda Report.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: The second one?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that is right, Dr. Gibbons. (Sorry.) As the acting Minister of Tourism, you have a second communication. HOTELS CONCESSION (TUCKER’S POINT HOTEL AND RESORT) ORDER 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Spea ker. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much, Minister. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Minister of Finance. Bermuda House of Assembly MORGAN’S POINT LIMITED , GOVERNMENT GUARANTEE Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in accordance with section 2AA(3) of the Government Loans Act 1978, I rise this morning to inform this Honourable House of …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. The Chair will now recognise Dr. Gibbons. LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS (LNG), VIABILITY OF IN BERMUDA Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, just a few minutes ago, I tabled in this Honourable House a report titled Viability of Liquefied Natural Gas …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Minister. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. [Pause] QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Members, we are now in the question period. And the Chair will first recognise the Honourable Leader of the Opposition, from constituency 26. The Honourable Marc Bean, you have the floor. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. The S peaker: Good morning. Hon. Marc A. R. …
The Speaker The Speaker Sorry, yes. We do have some oral questions. That should be done first. Thanks for that. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Mr. Speaker, MP De Silva is not in the House, as you have noted.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: So I would provide these questions on behalf of the MP.
The Speaker The Speaker Right. And, Dr. Gibbons, are you pr epared to answer those questions? Yes. So the Chair will recognise first the Leader of the Opposition for the first oral question. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY — PAYMENTS TO HEMISPHERE GROUP Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Yes, Minister, Dr. Gibbons. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am going to answer this in two parts, with your indulgence.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: First of all, I am g oing to give a year -by-year breakdown. And for the year 2013, the total amount was (bear with me; my eyes are not that great) . . . For 2013, the total amount was $16,563.12. For the …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Thank you. Yes. Carry on, Mr. Leader of the Opposition. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean : Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I now move to question 2.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: DESARROLLOS HOTELCO GROUP PUBLIC MEETINGS WITH MINISTRY Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Mr. Speaker, will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House when he and the principals of the Desarrollos Hotelco Group (the Developer) will commence with the public meetings to discuss the development?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is the intent of the Ministry and the D eveloper to hold public meetings to discuss the development during the second or third quarter of this calendar year.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Yes, Leader of the Opposition. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Third question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3: BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY — MEETING DATES AND PAYMENTS TO BOARD MEMBERS Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Mr. Speaker, will the Minister please confirm how many meetings [were held], and the dates on which these meetings were held, by the Bermuda Tourism Authority Board since its inception, Bermuda …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me start with the question about how many meetings and the dates on which those meetings were held. First of all, the Bermuda Tourism A uthority Board, since inception, has held a total of 24 meetings to date. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. All right. Thank you, Leader of the Opposition. We now go to the questions on Statements by Ministers ; first is the Statement by the Minister of F inance. I will recognise the Opposition Leader again. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on. QUESTION 1: MORGAN’S POINT LIMITED, GOVERNMENT GUARANTEE Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Mr. Speaker, as noted on the second page by the Minister, $165 million has been allocated for guarantee. Would the Minister acknow ledge that this is indicative of a government that act ually has lost confidence …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, it is not a question of the Government losing confidence in the tourism market; it is a question of what the market thinks. Right? And what we had here is a property that was a former US Naval base. It was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Honourable Member care to ask a question? MP from constituency 18. Yes, you have a supplementary?
Mr. E. David Burt Supplementary, if I may. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, in the Minister’s answer which he just gave, he said that there were some additional items that were required for the private sec-tor or for lenders to have confidence. Is he saying that this deal would not have gone through if it were not for the Government guarantee?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I think the Government guarantee was essential for this deal to go through.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Do you have a supplementary? Yes, carry on. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. In fact, I think that the Minister inadvertently misunderstood my question, my initial question. And that was not whether or not the Government is sho wing confidence in the project, but …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I think this project r equired Government support. I would not extend that to all projects. But this project needed it.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The Chair will recognise now MP David Burt, from constituency 18, Shadow Minister of Finance. Yes, a question?
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, question number 1 that I have for the Honourable Minister. 1548 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes. QUESTION 1: MORGAN’S POINT LIMITED, GO VERNMENT GUARANTEE
Mr. E. David Burt At the very beginning of his Statement, he said, “Mr. Speaker, in accordance with section 2AA(3) of the Government Loans Act 1978 . . .” Mr. Speaker, if I may, section 2AA of the Go vernment Loans Act states the following, that a loan may be made (and I quote) …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The terms . . . I do not have the numbers for the terms other than the fact that the Government continues in its normal course, if it gives guarantees, to get remunerated, similar to the guarantee that the Government gave for the Bank …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Burt, yes.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. As a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. E. David Burt The Honourable Minister offered to provide those. I would accept that he should pr ovide them, but I think that according to the Act, they should be tabled in this Parliament so the entire country can know what the terms and conditions are. Mr. Speaker, as a supplementary, will the …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member from constit uency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, I will ask my second supplementary. But I find it interesting that we are debating, we are actually discussing government guar-antees and the Minister of Finance cannot tell me how much money the Government has actually guara nteed. Mr. Speaker — Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I have told what the a ggregate amount is. So for the Honourable Member to get up there and say that I have not told the people of Bermuda what the amount is is just not correct.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Your second supplementary?
Mr. E. David Burt Second supplementary is, follo wing on what the Minister has just stated regarding the total amount versus the individual amounts, can the Honourable Minister please indicate in combination how much the total amount of guarantees he has ex ecuted thus far against the $165 million ceiling?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: None.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. All right. Thank you, Ho nourable Member. MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, question 2, if I may.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, you may. Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: MORGAN’S POINT LIMITED, GO VERNMENT GUARANTEE
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, question number 2 is, How does the government guarantee indicate confidence in the developer and/or the project? Would it not stand to reason that if there was confidence in the budget, they would be able to raise the money them-selves?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, that question was essentially already asked by the Leader of the Opposition. I am not going to answer the same question t wice.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. MP Burt. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I ask a second supplementary, or a first supplementary (sorry). Mr. Speaker, since the Ritz -Carlton does not come on board under 2018, what are the criteria to be fulfilled to complete the branding by Ritz?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I am not sure I understand the question.
The Speaker The Speaker Do you want to ask it again, MP Burt?
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, the question is, Given that the Ritz -Carlton Reserve, which has been announced, does not come on board until 2018, the question I am asking the Minister is, is he aware of the criteria that has to be fulfilled by the company, which we are providing this guarantee …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I am not familiar with that, although I have to say that the company is going to make a separate announcement for the branding. But we know that because of the brand that is connected to this, as I mentioned in this Honourable House, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt Third question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes. QUESTION 3: MORGAN’S POINT LIMITED, GO VERNMENT GUARANTEE
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, I thank the Minister for the response. Mr. Speaker, if the conditions prec edent are not met, or if the construction does not finish, or otherwise, what are the Government’s liabilities to the companies providing the financing?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The guarantees that we have signed specifically state that in the event of a default and in the event of [a non completion] of the project, the Government of Bermuda will not be liable for anything in excess of $165 million under any ci …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. E. David Burt In the Government’s extending $165 million taxpayer guarantee for this project, can the Government state what requirements did they have of the developers to put up any of their own money and/or equity?
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I am aware that the developers have put up a lot of their own money. And they have been putting up their own money for the last —I do not know how many years, keeping this thing going. So they have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. 1550 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, my final supplementary is, is the Minister comfortable in essentially guaranteeing a private development? Is he comfortable in playing the role of picking winners and losers in a market economy?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, picking wi nners and losers? What we are doing is trying to redevelop the tourism sector in this Island, a sector that has been on decline for 30 years. We are trying to redevelop, and we are redeveloping, a property that was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. All right. Thank you very much, Honourable Members. We now move to the second Statement by the Minister for Economic Development. And I have MP Roban. QUESTION 1: LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS (LNG), VIABILITY OF IN BERMUDA
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question for the Minister, Mr. Speaker: On page 4 of 7 of the Statement, the Minister mentions there, there are Ferry Reach and Marginal Wharf as possible sites for a storage and regasification plant, or proposed sites, for these types of facilities. Not having the benefit …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The sites are not being proposed at this point by Government. This is simply a study looking at the viability of LNG. These seem to be the two most ec onomically feasible sites. The Ferry Reach site already has …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary, MP? The Leader of the O pposition has a supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Honourable Minister acknowledge that what he is presenting today is act ually a carbon copy, I would say, of what we did as …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would not agree with that. This is quite a detailed report. And it is one that gets into all aspects of both importing and being able to manage LNG in Bermuda. I think when the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. All right, thank you. The Chair will now recognise MP Roban. You have a supplementary?
Mr. Walter H. Roban Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Walter H. Roban The Honourable Minister mentioned a private company in his answer. Is the Ho nourable Minister prepared to tell us who the private company is, at this point?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The private company is actually mentioned in the Statement. It is BEESG, Bermuda Environmental Sustainability Group. They are the ones that are making a proposal which still, I would say, requires some work. But they are making a proposal …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly Yes, MP Roban.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Second question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, your second question. QUESTION 2: LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS (LNG), VIABILITY OF IN BERMUDA
Mr. Walter H. Roban Question: Is the Minister able to give us an idea as to how much percentage of the existing infrastr ucture perhaps can be used for a f uture LNG project? Or is there going to have to be a total reinvestment [into] that infrastructure to facilitate the use of LNG …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, thanks, Mr . Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think it is probably useful for Honourable Members to have read the report; and I understand the Honourable Member has not had a chance to do that yet. But in essence, looking at these two …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Yes, MP Roban.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Walter H. Roban The Minister mentioned BEESG. Is this a local company that has specialis ation in energy technology and other aspects? And can the Minister give us some more information on who they are?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the answer is, it is a local co mpany in the sense that the principals are local. Mr. Oliver Binns is the president of that. But it also has significant overseas partners. The other proposer cer-tainly …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Honourable Member, yes, you have another question, Honourable Member? Yes, MP Roban.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Yes, another principal question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, sir. Carry on. QUESTION 3: LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS (LNG), VIABILITY OF IN BERMUDA
Mr. Walter H. Roban On page 5, the Honourable Minister says at the bottom, “it is likely that a combina-tion of options may be employed in order to achieve the best solution for Bermuda. Of all the potential pr ocurement methods, the most innovative is the Swiss challenge.” Is the Minister prepared to state …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Minister. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, I think it is important to put this report in context. The report is not the Government’s opinion. The report is an opinion done by an international consulting group whom we have been using through a good part of the …
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 24. MP Lawrence Scott. You have a supplementary.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker, just a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Just after the Minister spoke about the Swiss challenge and how it is a viable o ption for this project, why would that Swiss challenge not be a viable option for the airport deal?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe the Minister of Finance has set that out and the reasons for that in great detail. This is also a private sector . . . well, as the Statement says, it is going to be eventually determined, …
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute, just a minute. I understand and I thought I saw a camera. If I see anything like that, then [Sergeant -at-Arms], you make sure that these people in the Gallery, the vis itors . . . rem ind them that they are visitors. And I saw a …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Yes.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Final question.
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, no, no. You have had three questions. You have another supplementary. You a lready asked three questions.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Members. That concludes our question period. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Minister of Community, Culture and Sport. Minister Gordon- Pamplin, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish that this Honourable House would join me in sending congratulations. A week ago, Teen Services had an event …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 24. MP Scott, you have the floor.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like this House to send a letter of congratulations to the Epsilon Beta Lambda Chapter of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Incorporated, as they had their annual Black and Gold Ball over the past weekend, March 12 th. And it was a good time. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member, the Minister of Economic Development, Dr. Gibbons. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to ask that the House send congratulations to Jarion Richardson, who has just launched a compliance …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Whip, from constituency 3.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Firstly, I just want to send out condolences to the Foggo family, Keith Foggo, in particular, I think most people will know his brother, Franklin Foggo. And the Foggo name is synonymous with St. David’s, so he will be sadly missed by the St. David’s comm …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable and Learned Member, from constituency 31, MP Shawn Crockwell. You have the floor. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Thank you, and good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Shawn G. Crockwell: Mr. Speaker, the last time I stood in this Honourable House, I did so in the c apacity as the Minister of Tourism Development and Transport, a position I had the honour to hold for just over three years. Today I no longer hold …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you, Honourable Member. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now take the Honourable Member from constituency 6. I think he was in line. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first of all, let me congratulate my friend, the Honourable Shawn Crockwell, and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member She is still here. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: She is still here, still here. I think she is waiting now to see whether there are ind ividuals for the Bill itself. But we would like to congrat ulate her for her heartiness for taking the challenge upon herself. It must …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 4, the Deputy Speaker.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser I was surprised that I am going to be associated with someone who has passed away, and the Member who stood to her feet did not refer to the gentleman by his nickname. Because Keith “Breed” Foggo is one of those individuals, Mr. Speaker, who actually kept the thought and …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 21, MP Commissiong.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues. I too wish to associate myself, my comments, with those of the Member from constituency 6, Mr. Speaker. I thought that he ably offered the—
The Speaker The Speaker I gave him a little bit of a leeway. So you would have noticed that.
The Speaker The Speaker That leeway has closed.
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Thank you. [Laughter]
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Suffice it to say that I too associate with his comments. I also associate with the comments by the Member who just took her seat, from constituency 4, MP Roberts -Holshouser. Mr. Breed Foggo was also a cousin to my wife. And also [I would like to associate myself with] …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise first the Honourable Minister Atherden, the Minister for Health, Seniors and the Environment. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to ask the House to send congratulations to all of those who associated with the Ocean …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Sorry. Sorry, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have to do something about conserving our energy. And to know that this is the eighth anniversary of the Earth Hour, I think all of us in Bermuda have to recognise that, bearing in mind what Dr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 16. MP Michael Weeks, you have the floor. 1556 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to associate myself with the remarks, first of all, for Keith Breed Foggo. I met Mr. Foggo, Mr. Speaker, many moons ago now in another life. I used to do construction. And …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks It was a big sow. So I have some fond memories of Keith. He and I actually ended up becoming pretty good friends over the years. But Keith was quite a fellow. And he had another guy, I think some St. David’s Islanders may know him to be his best …
The Speaker The Speaker That is it. You have to take a seat now, Honourable Member. The time is up. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 13.
Mr. Diallo V. S. Rabain Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On a sad note, Mr. Speaker —and I would like to associate all of my colleagues on this side—can we have a letter of condolences sent to the family of Ms. Tinee Furbert, sister -in-law to the Member from constituency 6, because her mother, Ms. Carla …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 1, MP Kenneth Bascome.
Mr. Kenneth (Kenny) Bascome Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Kenneth (Kenny) Bascome I would just like to take this opportunity to add my voice to the Honourable Wayne Furbert’s comments in regards to the Honourable Member Shawn Crockwell, former Mini ster of Tourism and Transport. Being a person who is actively involved in tourism, I can say that Mr. Croc kwell has …
The Speaker The Speaker You can congratulate him, yes. You must congratulate him.
The Speaker The Speaker If that is what you want to do.
Mr. Kenneth (Kenny) Bascome Yes. I would just like to say to Mr. Crockwell, thank you very much on behalf of all Bermudians for the yeoman’s job that you performed. Thank you, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 33, MP Jamahl Si mmons.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, and good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Mr. Speaker, I rise today to give congratulations to the mighty Somerset Eagles, who earned their promotion to the premier division. [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, Mr. Speaker!
The Speaker The Speaker Eagles, Eagles? Moved up to the first division?
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes! That is right. Premier [division], Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Worthy of praise, I would say, Mr. Speaker, worthy of praise.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. All right.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons And I think most of the House would like to be associated with that. It is a moment worthy of praise indeed. I would like to single out the striker, young Mr. Nathan Rego, in his per-formance.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is right.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons He has got a very strong, promising career ahead of him, and I look forward to his exploits in the future. I would like to be associated with the condolences sent to the family of the mother of Ms. Tinee Furbert. She has been very helpful with us over the …
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 18. MP David Burt, you have the floor.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first, I would like to associate myself with the congratulations that have been sent to the winners at the Outstanding Teen Awards. And I would like to give special recognition to one of my constituents, Ms. Nia Daley, who actually won two awards on …
The Speaker The Speaker Will you encourage her to go to GWU [George Washington University]? [Laughter]
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, it is not my choice. She is following the alma mater of her family. And that is her decision. Howard University is a fine institution.
The Speaker The Speaker Absolutely.
Mr. E. David Burt And it is a fine institution. That school, most of its alumni . . . well, I will put it that way. To move on, Mr. Speaker, I would like to extend als o congratulations, keeping it local, to Pembroke West Central. I would like to extend my congratulations to …
Mr. E. David Bur t And I will most certainly associate the Honourable Member from constituency 16 and the Honourable Leader of the Opposition in the congrat ulations for the Western Stars Sports Club on their achievement, once again proving that they recently continue to be one of the most dominant teams in Bermuda’s football, …
Mr. E. David Burt Yes, and a special shout -out to the Coach, Mr. Jomar Wilkinson. And finally, Mr. Speaker, I would like to add the congratulations on this side to the people of this country, for the demonstration of people power which we have seen over the last week, and especially that to …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2. MP Nandi Outerbridge, you have the floor.
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge Good morning. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Good morning.
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge Mr. Speaker, I just rise this morning on first a sad note, to send condolences to the family of Mr. Richard Santos. Mr. Santos was a former employee of the Department of Child and Fam-ily Services. I am going to associate the Shadow Min-ister of Community, Culture and Sports and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honour able Member. Members, that concludes our congratulatory and/or obituary speeches. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS O F URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Minister, E. T. Richards. Minister Richards. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. FIRST READINGS LAND TAX AMENDMENT (NO. 2) ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I am intr oducing the following Bill, which according to section 36(3) of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Carry on. I think you have a second one? Bermuda House of Assembly INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION (TAX INFORM ATION EXCHANGE AGREEMENTS) AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: That is correct, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing another Bill, the following Bill, for its first reading so that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Health, Seniors and the Environment, Minister Atherden. DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES (CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS) ACT 2016 Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I am intr oducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That concludes the Government Bills. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Minister of Finance, Minister Bob Richards. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that we resume to form the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2016/17.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. So, I will ask, please, that the Deputy Speaker resume the Chair [of Committee]. [Pause] House in Committee at 11:37 am [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2016/17 [Continuation thereof]
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2016/17. This is a 4.5- hour debate. We will be debating Community and Cultural Affairs. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, if you would advise …
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I will begin our debate of the Financial Year 2016/17 estimates of expenditure and revenue for the Ministry of Community, Culture and Sports by providing a brief overview of the Mini stry as a whole. I note …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, indeed you did. [Pause] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pam plin: Madam Chai rman, page B -225 also shows budgetary data for revenue and capital expenditure for the Ministry; I will also discuss these later in my presentation. Madam Chairman, first I will discuss the current account expenditure for Head …
The Chairman Chairman That would be a good time rather than starting a new head. That is perfect. The Chair recognises the Premier. Premier? Hon. M ichael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that we adjourn for lunch and come back at two o’clock.
The Chairman Chairman It has been suggested that we adjourn for lunch. Are there any objections to that? It is now 12:24. We will adjourn to 2:00 pm. Thank you, Members. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:24 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:00 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE …
The Chairman Chairman We are resuming the Committee of Supply. We are debating the budget Head or the Mi nistry of Youth, Sport and Culture. The Minister Pat Gordon- Pamplin is on the floor delivering her debate. You can continue, Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY, CULTURAL DEVE LOPMENT AND SPORT …
The Chairman Chairman You have probably got about three hours left on this one. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman For the entire thing. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes, that is fine. I just want to make sure I leave ample time for co mments. HEAD 52 —DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Chairman, I will now present the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The son of? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: He is the son of the late Dr. Clarence Maxwell. My abject and most humble apologies. And I ought to know that because his father is Godfather to my sister, so I know. But I do apologise.
The Chairman Chairman We accept your apology. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamp lin: I do apologise. Another project being developed by the department is focusing on original research on Bermuda’s unique dialect. In Financial Year 2015/16, the Department granted a research award to Britanni Cann- Fubler and Rosemary Hall, who are joint ly …
The Chairman Chairman There is about two and half [hours] left for the debate— Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: I still have another Head.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, I know, you have got Head 55, correct? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. And I will now turn to Head 55. HEAD 55 —DEPAR EMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSI STANCE Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Mr. Chairman, I will now present the estimates of expenditure and revenue for Head …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister, for your prese ntation. The Minister has presented the Heads 71, 20, 23, 52 and 55. Does any other Member wish to speak to them? I recognise the Shadow Minister, MP Weeks. You have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to start off this debate by thanking the Honourable Minister of Community, Culture and Sport for allowing me some time and she did a thor-ough job in breaking down this Ministry.
The Chairman Chairman MP, just for your . . . to keep you aware, there is about an hour and 49 minutes or so left.
Mr. Michael A. W eeks Okay. [Inaudible interjection]
The Chairman Chairman Take your time.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I am not just saying this because this is my Shadow Ministry, but I think that this particular Ministry is one of the most important ministries that we have. And I say that to say, Mr. Chairman, that this is the Ministry that …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks It is a little dark, Mr. Chai rman, I need to get this book closer to me. So, Mr. Chairman, where was I? On page B - 225, Head 71, t he Ministry of Community, Culture and Sport Headquarters. It has been increased this year by $550,000 and the year …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks All right. Mr. Chairman, as I was saying, I cannot stress enough that if we properly fund and recognise the i mportance of these various departments, it can go a long way in addressing a lot of our social issues on the front end. Mr. Chairman, some say that we …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks For the Head or for the whole? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Ask all your questions for everything.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Okay. All ri ght. Not many. Can the Minister explain the purpose of the Women’s Council meetings? And why were there no meetings conducted— [Inaudible interjections, laughter and crosstalk]
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Well, you certainly woke them up, Mr. Chairman. [Inau dible interjections]
Mr. Michael A. Weeks And why, Madam Minister, are there no Women’s Council meetings projected for 2016/17? Back to [page] B -227, I see there is a 250 per cent increase in Training, a 68 per cent increase in Professional Services, and when I try to find out what that relates to or what …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks —ready for me, Mr. Chai rman? Okay. As I turn to page C -18 under Grants and Contributions, just to follow where that decrease came from, I noticed that it was to Parish Council commi tments. And again, Mr. Chairman, a lot of what I said last year I say …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Brownie points, brownie points, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: Mr. Chairman. [Laughter]
Mr. Michael A. Weeks So I am asking, and it is just a general question, so with the cuts in these Community Centres are we denying the rise of the next Clarence Hill or the Sentwali Woolridge with a cut to these services in our Community Centres? So while we are still on page …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks I can wait. All right. Line item 30390, cost centre 2004, I see a decrease of only $4,000 so that is not, it does not appear to be much, but every cut to these clubs, these sporting facilities and fields is significant. And I make those comments because as I …
Mr. Mich ael A. Weeks You got it? Okay. Okay, Mr. Chairman, cost centre 2007 on page B -239, I notice a decrease in Camping Administration and various decreases in different campsites, ranging from 3 per cent to 41 per cent. So I turn to page B -243 to see the Performance Measures and I …
The Chairman Chairman Of course, you are going to push for it within the relevant line item.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, it is sir. It is cost centre 5202, line item 62020, Heritage Celebrations. Yes? Can I continue, Mr. Chairman?
The Chairman Chairman Indeed.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Well, having said that, Mr. Chairman, I am going to take the opportunity to again trumpet the cause that we need to really bring some really historical perspective and cultural pride to this thing that we call Bermuda Day and put something into it. And guess what, Mr. Chairman? We …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks I hear Members on the other side saying it is déjà vu. It is déjà vu twice over because two years ago it was that way . And I made mention when I was first starting and I was waiting for the Minister of Education to join us. I am …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Mr. Chairman, cost centre 5204, Community Education, line item 62150, Community Education Course. I see, Mr. Chairman, that, again, I see where the Minister has seen fit to cut the Community Education budget. I would like to ask her, who is impacted by this? When I look at Performance Measures …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Okay. I will hold up. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: It might not be land tax, it might be something else.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Okay, right, something else. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Okay, all right. Well, let me retract that because the Minister has corrected me that the seniors do not have to pay land tax — Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: On their primary residence.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks —but my argument simply is . . . my argument simply is that a lot of them, my argument simply is that seniors are finding it harder and harder to put food on the table. I get calls, and I am sure the Minister does too, from seniors who are …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks More seniors. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Michael A. Weeks A caring Government indeed that keeps on increasing Financial Assistance when the recession is over. What are the projected numbers, Mr. Chairman, as I ask the Minister, for Fiscal Year 2016/17 of people applying for Financial Assistance? I recall, Mr. Chairman, in the Financial Assistance Amendment Act 2015 those applying …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, they were looking into it. So I do not want to say that the Minister said that they were looking into it, but my question is, how is that going? Has that Community Driven Development Pr ogramme for men been implemented and [is it] up and running? And if …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Pardon? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Do you want a nswers or are you going to run it out? Do you want answers or are you going to run out the time?
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member?
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman You are addressing the Chair.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, I noticed real quickly that I know time is going to run out on us. I noticed that Salvation Army has a decrease of $50,000. I find that disturbing because I tell you what, I have had an experience. I am talking to some clients of …
The Chairman Chairman Well, clearly comprehensive is a very popular word these days.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, yes, Mr. Chairman. But this particular one is used in the term of comprehensive Financial Assistance reform. One of the issues I have with the current F inancial Assistance programme is that in trying to get 10 signatures, it is getting harder and harder because a lot of employers …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak to these Heads? The Chair recognises the Honourable Minister Gordon- Pamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pam plin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I hope to respond to as many questions as possible that were asked by the …
The Chairman Chairman Less than 10 minutes. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Ten minutes?
The Chairman Chairman You have about eight minutes left. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Oh! I have got plenty of time. I thought we were done at 5:30, that is what I was told.
The Chairman Chairman Five thirty -seven. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Okay, all right. So let me just see if there is anything else. I was really trying to race through my responses, but let me just . . . I will take my seat in case the Shadow Minister has anything further. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak to these Heads? The Chair recognises the Honourable Mini ster. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I now move Heads for the Mi nistry of Community, Culture and Sport. I would like to …
The Chairman Chairman No. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: I have to move all the Heads. The Clerk: No, you do not. You do not have to—
The Chairman Chairman Just move the— The Clerk: —it is included in the Appropriation Bill. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Oh, okay. The Clerk: Those two Heads that were left out are included in the Ministry of Finance— Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: In the Appropri ation Bill? Okay, fine. Then I would …
The Chairman Chairman It has been so moved. Bermuda House of Assembly Any objections? None. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Ministry of Community, Culture and Sports, Heads 71, 20, 23, 52 and 55 were a pproved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2016/17.]
The Chairman Chairman The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minister for Economic Development and Tourism. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Acting Tourism.
The Chairman Chairman Tourism nevertheless. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman You have the floor. MINISTRY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, let me start by moving some Heads here. The Heads under debate are Head 95, which is the Ministry of Economic Development Headquarters; Head 39, which is the Registrar of …
The Chairman Chairman It has been so moved. Please proceed. HEAD 95 —HEADQUARTERS Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: It certainly gives me great pleasure and perhaps pleasure for others be-cause this is the last set of heads that will be debated this afternoon in the entire budget process. I hear a “thank …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry, can you guide us? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, that is pr obably on page . . . it is in the C section, and I am guessing that is on page . . . yes, it is on page C -7, Mr. Chai rman, C -7 …
The Chairman Chairman I will just take this moment to say that we have about one hour and 45 minutes. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Okay. Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly HEAD 46 —DEPARTMENT OF TELECOMMUNIC ATIONS Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: I would like to move now to Head …
The Chairman Chairman You have about an hour and 15 mi nutes. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Okay. I will move right along. HEAD 89 —DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: The current account estimates for Head 89, which is the Department of Energy of the Ministry of Economic …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Would anyone else like to speak? The Chair recognises the Shadow Minister of Economic Development, from constituency 33, Mr. J. S. Simmons. Please proceed.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Madam Chai rman. When last I took my feet during the budget, I called for the resignation of the Minister, and, oh, what a difference a week makes. But I will not do that t oday. So, Honourable Minister, you are safe today. But what I would like …
The Chairman Chairman Excuse me, can you just tell me what line item you’re speaking to?
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons I am speaking to the Hea dquarters of the Ministry of Economic Development, which is (hold on one second) . . . Head 95 and the mission of the Ministry of Economic Development Headquarters, as I stated in my first sentence, Madam Chairman. Now as I was sayi ng, the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Apologies, I am guided by your wisdom, sir. But I do think that that was a mi stake to move that out of Business Development and I think it was a mistake because that is a level of sy nergy that should be combined and united. Madam Chairman, we are …
The Chairman Chairman I am sorry. Where are you? 1628 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons: I am in the Ministry of Ec onomic Development, Department of Telecommunications Head 46, page 5 of the brief, page 5 of 16 in the brief in that section. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Would anyone else like to speak to this? Okay, Minister? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Madam Chairman. And I thank the Honourable Member for his comments and suggestions. Perhaps what I could do is just start by talking about the issue of an Economic Development …
The Chairman Chairman You have about two minutes. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Two minutes, okay. Let me just finish off by saying the H onourable Member did comment on the issue of making sure . . . he used the words “trickle down” (I would not use those), but the degree …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, it is time. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: I would like to move Head 95, Ministry of Economic Development; Head 39, Registrar of Companies; and Head 46, Telecom-munications; and Head 89, Energy. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. It has been moved that Heads 95, 39, 46 and 89 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Ministry of Economic Develop-ment, Heads 95, 39, 46 and 89 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue …
The Chairman Chairman Minister of Finance? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Yes, Madam Chairman. I would now like to move the Heads that were not debated. I would like to move the following Heads to be approved as printed: Heads 1, 2, 5, 43, 51, 84, 96, 59, 72, 97, 18, 19, 12, …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Heads be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Heads 1, 2, 5, 43, 51, 84, 96, 59, 72, 97, 18, 19, 12 and 67 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue and …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Estimates be approved —the Capital Estimates. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Current Account Estimates, the Capital Development Estimates and the Capital A cquisition Estimates were approved and stand part of the Estimates of Revenue …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the Financial Year 2016/17 be approved. Is there any objection? No objection. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Estimates of Revenue and E xpenditure for Financial Year 2016/17 were considered by a Committee of the whole House and …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Members, the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for 2016/17 have been approved as printed. And so the Chair will now recognise the Honourable Minister of Finance. BILL FIRST READING APPRO PRIATION ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing a Bill entitled the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Are there any objections to that? Carry on please, M inister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, sir. I move in accordance with Standing Order 28(5)(1) that under the provisions of Standing Orders 41, 12, and 42 the remaining stages of the Bill entitled Appropriation Act 2016 …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? Carry on, Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Appropriation Act 2016 be now read a second time in the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? There are none. Carry on , Minister. BILL SECOND READING APPROPRIATION ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move clauses 1 to 6, inclusive, together with Schedules A, B and C as printed. I move those Schedules please.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objection to that? There are none. Carry on, Minister. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 6 together with Schedules A, B and C passed.] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move the Preamble.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? Carry on, Minister. BILL THIRD READING APPROPRIATION ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Appropriation Act 2016 be now read the third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? There are none. Carry on, Minister. Hon. E. T. ( Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that the said Bill do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? There are none. Minister. [Motion carried: The Appropriation Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.] MESSAGE TO THE SENATE APPROPRIATION ACT 2 016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that the following message be sent to the Senate. And the message …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. So the message will be sent to the Senate. Thank you, Minister of Finance. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Pause] Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: All right the Chair will now recognise the . . . …
The Speaker The Speaker Order No. . . . but first, I should have indicated that Order No. 2 is carried over. Order No. 3 in the name of the Minister of F inance. You have the floor. BILL SECOND READING LAND TAX AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker It should be 2016. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Yes. This Bill provides for revised tax rates for var ious annual rental values or ARV bands. Mr. Speaker, in addition to the Ten Commandments, in Bermuda the 11 th Commandment has been the price of Bermuda real estate can never …
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute, Honourable Member. Honourable Members should know whenever you cross that bar, you bow to the Speaker. Thank you. Carry on. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Okay, I will start the se ntence again. The Draft List, or ARV List, (as it is sometimes called) confirmed the widely …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Shadow Minister for Finance from constituency 18, MP David Burt. You have the floor.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and good evening to you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening to you. 1638 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Minister ended by saying that the buck stops with him. And I would like to, I guess, commend him for at least accepting responsibility for this error which …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 15, the Shadow Minister for Home Affairs MP Roban.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not normally get up on financial matters and speak, Mr. Speaker, but I had to get up and speak particularly on this matter for a couple of rea-sons. One, I commend my honourable colleague who speaks for Finance from constitu ency 18 for crystalli …
Mr. Walter H. Roban Where? But most of the houses in constituency 15 do not look like the houses on Harbour Road, or in parts of Hamilton Parish or St. George’s. But I can tell you this, Mr. Speaker, a few people from constituency 15 contacted me about what they discovered about their land …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Health and Seniors from constituency 19, Jeanne Atherden. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I only have a few words to say on this matter. I think, from my perspective, it is …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to . . . the Chair recognises the Member from constituency 13. You have the floor.
Mr. Diallo V. S. Rabain Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Am I the only one standing here that is abs olutely blown away with what we just heard? Am I the only one? Come on. Madam Deputy Speaker, if we are trying to do somet hing that is revenue neutral, how do we accomplish that …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Sorry, your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. It is revenue neutral to the Government in aggregate, Honourable Member.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 13.
Mr. Diallo V. S. Rabain Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Actually, I was hoping that they would say that. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Diallo V. S. Rabain I was hoping that they would say that because, Madam Deputy Speaker, what we are talking about is shifting the burden to the people 1642 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly who can least afford to spend it. That is what we are talking about and …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to the Bill? The Chair recognises the Honourable P. J. Gordon- Pamplin from constituency 23. You have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, while we could hear righteous indignation …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives]
Mr. E. David Burt It is [imputing] improper motives to state that it is “malicious” to inform constituents of this country the result of a Government Bill on their poc ketbooks. I would ask the Minister to withdraw that.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: I will withdraw that comment. I will withdraw that comment. But what I want to say is that when I hear Members say the Government does not care, let me just say that when the bills came out . . . we on this …
The Speaker The Speaker Hey, hey, hey, enough. [Gavel] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister indicated that there was an error. He is fixing the error. To suggest that it is because we do not care about people is not only disingenuous, it is dishonest, because Honourable Members opposite …
The Speaker The Speaker All right . Thank you very much, Honourable Member. Do you want to speak Honourable Member? All right. The Chair is going to recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 35. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Well, we have got a resolution, Honour able Member. So do you really want to speak? There is a resolution. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker You can speak in Committee. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: All right. You are going to move an amendment now?
The Speaker The Speaker In Committee. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Okay. All right.
The Speaker The Speaker In Committee, you can have some di scussions, Honourable Member. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Exactly.
The Speaker The Speaker In the boardroom. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I would like to —
The Speaker The Speaker In the Speaker’s boardroom. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: All right. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the Honourable Member Mr. Lister for giving way to me so we can move this forward. We seem to have come to a way how to fix this …
The Speaker The Speaker And you will do that in Committee? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: And we will do that in Committee, and we will insofar as . . . as Honourable Members know, the bills have already gone out and people have paid their bills, or some people anyway have paid their …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Are there any objections to that? The Bill will go to Committee so—Deputy Speaker? [Pause] House in Committee at 10:01 pm [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL LAND TAX AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Members. We are now in Committee of the whole House for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Land Tax Amendment Act 2016. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. 1644 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly …
The Chairman Chairman Please take your time. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: —finding which way we are going here. I would like to move all five clauses at the moment.
The Chairman Chairman Member, I only have four clauses. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Okay, four clauses, excuse me. Clause 1 is self -explanatory.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections to moving clauses 1 through 4? If we are going to have an amendment, I would rather just do the first — Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Do you want to do the amendment now?
The Chairman Chairman We can do the citation. We can confirm clause 1. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clause 1? No. If there are no other Members that would like to speak to clause 1, Minister you have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam …
The Chairman Chairman Clause 1 be approved— Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I move that clause 1 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 1 be approved as printed. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clause 1 passed as amended.] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I would like to move clause 2. It amends section 2(b) of the principal Act to increase …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, please proceed. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Clause 2 amends sec tion 2(b) of the principal Act to increase the land tax pa yable in respect of properties other than private dwel lings from 5.5 per cent to 7 per cent.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clause 2? There are no Members that would like to speak to clause 2. Minister? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Clause 3, Madam Chair —
The Chairman Chairman Minister, I would like to move clause 2 as printed. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I would like to move clause 2 —
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 2 be approved as printed. Any objections to that motion? No objections to that motion. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clause 2 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, please proceed. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Clause 3 amends section 3A of the principal Act, so that the special concessionary basis available to Bermudian seniors living in their own homes will provide an exemption in respect of private dwellings below the annual rental value of $44,500 (that is …
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, just a point of order. We are on clause 3 of the [original Bill] in front of us, which is the Land Tax Amendment (No. 2) Act 2015. That reads “In section 3A(4) of the principal Act, delete ‘$50,000’ in each place …
Mr. E. David Burt I do not believe the Honourable Minister actually moved the amendment. He read what he would like it to be, but we have to amend what the actual clause says. So I would like to move that we amend this clause by substituting $29,000 and replacing it with $45,400 —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member [It is] $44,500.
Mr. E. David Burt Let me make sure that I get it right—$44,500. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. E. David Burt Minister, $45,500. So I move that we strike “$29,000” and r eplace it with “$45,500.”
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Thank you very much. Are there any objections to that amendment? If there are no objections to that motion . . . and that would be to amend clause 3, changing the “$29,000” to “$45,500.” Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion …
The Chairman Chairman Everyone should already have a copy of that in their hands because that would have been laid earlier. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clause 4, the table? Thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 4
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. And in concurrence with the Honourable Speaker and the Clerk, who said we will accept the verbal amendment, I would like to move a verbal amendment as follows. I would like to move an amendment to subst itute 1.8 with 0.8. I would like …
Mr. E. David Burt —to substitute 11.6 with 12.0; to substitute 21.2 with 25.0; and to substitute 25.0 with 47.0.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any Members that would like to speak to that amendment? Thank you.
Mr. E. David Burt I would like to speak to the amendment I proposed. Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I would like to thank the Minister for agreeing to the amendment that has been offered by the Opposition. I guess to see that collaboration . . . it does seem that …
Madam Chairman. The Chairman Chairman Point of order? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon- Pamplin: I would just like to—
The Chairman Chairman Member, Member, I am sorry. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 23. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin : Thank you. I would just like to have clarity, because the Honourable Member, I believe, is misleading the House sa ying thank you for the amendment that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. It had been raised by the Minister responsible for the Bill that we would be making the amendment. I recognise the Member from constituency 18 who is in agreement.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much. I was trying to bring us back from the prec ipice of partisanship, which is unusual for me standing up in this House, but the Honourable Minister of Community Affairs is trying to take me back there. Let me make very clear what this amendment does, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just to clarify what the Honourable Member from constituency 18 just said that in July . . . yes. The Honourable Member, Mr. Furbert, says he knows. Well, he will still listen too. In …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to the amendment to clause 4? No other Members. Minister? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I would like to move clause 4 as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 4 as amended be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: Clause 4 passed as amended.] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, I would like to move clause 5. What we …
The Chairman Chairman So it will stay as is. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clause 5? There are no Members that would like to speak to clause 5. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, those are all the clauses I believe.
The Chairman Chairman Are we going to move that clause now? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I move clause 5, please.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 5 be approved as printed. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clause 5 passed.] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, I move the Preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, I would like to move that the Bill be reported to the House as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as amended. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. [Motion carried: The Land Tax Amendment (No. 2) Act 2016 was considered by a Committee …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Members. The Land Tax Amendment Act 2016 has been approved as amended. Orders No. 4 and 5 are carried over. We move now to Order No. 6 which is the Supplementary Estimates in the name of the Minister of Finance, the Honourable E. T. Richards. You have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. You have just moved now — [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to us going into Committee to discuss these supplementary estimates? There are none. I ask that the Deputy [Speaker] please take the Chair [of Committee.] [Pause] House in Committee at 10:25 pm [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 1) 2015/16
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Members. We are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further discussion of the Bill entitled Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for Financial Year 2015/16. I call on the Minister. We will do each Head of expenditure in turn. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any Members that would like to speak to the Ministry of Finance—$550,000? There are no Members. I would propose, Mi nister, that the sum of $550,000 for the Ministry of F inance Head be part of the Estimates as printed. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any Members that would like to speak to that? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18. You have the floor.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much. The Minister —the $550,000 for the increase in GEHI —I am assuming the only reason for that is because GEHI itself went up overall?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Minister? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The reason was that we could not come to agreement with the Union —the P olice Association. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to—the Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much. During the debate on the Heads of expenditure for the police, the Honourable Minister of National Security, when our opposite [Member] on this side had stated that there was no agreement with police, [the Minister] said that some alternate arrangement has been reached. Would the Honourable …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister of Finance. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: We had an agre ement with the Police Association. However, we did not agree to have them pay their share of GEHI and that is what caused this overage. We had budgeted for the fact …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 2 in the Supplementary Estimate No. 1? There are no other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 2. The Chair recognises the Finance M inister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, …
The Chairman Chairman We will move the whole at the co nclusion. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: We can go on to the next one, which is . . . I am not sure . . . [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Attorney General. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am moving the first Head 87, which is Mini stry Headquarters, current account, Legal Aid for $2.35 million. Madam Chairman, in 2015 Honourable Members were requested to approve a supplementary es1650 21 March …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Attorney General. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chairman. In overall, I cannot disagree with what the Shadow Attorney General says. There has been a chronic issue with under budgeting for Legal Aid. It is only a partial explanation that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 1? Thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 6. You have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, it is clear that the department has been underfunded every budget year. They were …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Under budget.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 1? Thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 36. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I certainly am grateful for the candour of the learned attorney. This is a statutory. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 1? No? No other Members would like to speak to Item No. 1. We will move to Item No. 3—the Ministry of Education. It has been proposed that the sum of —oh, please proceed …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any Members —it has been pr oposed that the sum of $2,147,541 for the Ministry of Education stand part of the estimate as printed. Are there any Members that would like to speak? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 3. Ms. Foggo, you have …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Well, I basically want to echo the sentiments and comments made during the proper Budget Debate which is that we see a recurring trend 1652 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly of education being under budgeted. I —especially given what has transpired basically with the various …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 6. You have the floor. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, I must say I am really confused on this one. When you say that the extra …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the— Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Point of clarification.
The Chairman Chairman —Minister of Education. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. R. Wayne Scott: The original budget that was passed for last fiscal year was $109.9 million (approximately). It was revised to $107.6 million (ap-proximately) because you had funds that were frozen for voluntary early retirement and such. However, as we went through in …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 6. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, I have been able to tie most of these supplementaries into the revised amount one way or the other. It …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It is not in here. If it is not in here that means that the total amount is higher even still. The Chair man: The Chair recognises the Minister of Education. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Just for clarification, no, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly Madam Chairman, just taking off my Shadow Minister of Finance hat for a second and putting on my hat as Chairman of the Public Accounts Commi ttee, it is quite shocking to hear the Honourable Mini ster of Education say …
The Chairman Chairman Point of order. The Chair recognises the Minister of Education. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. R. Wayne Scott: The Minister of Education was making a joke? That is misleading the House. I am very serious about the budget numbers that I am put-ting forward. I would appreciate it if he …
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt I have no issue retracting the statement because I honestly . . . the Minister was laughing as he said it. That much being said, and you could see the looks on his front bench where people were slightly complexed. That is what happened. We saw it from here. All …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 6. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, the bottom line, Madam Chairman, is that I really do not understand. “Suppl ementary” means that you spend more than what …
The Chairman Chairman Point of clarification. The Chair recognises the Minister of Education. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. R. Wayne Scott: I understand the confusion. The amount was reduced to $107 [million]. And that was not done by the Ministry of Education; that was done by the Ministry of Finance as a result of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? There are no other Members that would like to speak? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, I, I—
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 6. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The Premier said I am a little slow. But Premier —
The Chairman Chairman Please speak to the Chair. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman, i f this House approved $127 million for Education last year, and the revised figure is down to $124 million that means that you spent less. Now you are asking for a supplementary on top of what? The revised …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Minister of Educ ation. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Okay, I am going to try to break this down a little bit differently for our accountant Member over there. 1654 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I am going to last …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? There are no other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Madam Chairman—
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 6. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I am looking at my two friends over there who are accountants. If the budget was $109 million, and you are coming to me for a supplementary for $2 million, the revised figure goes down to $107 million …
The Chairman Chairman Member, Member. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: The Honourable Member, I said the Premier, explain to us what does that mean, because it does not mean anything to me. I cannot be approving something that is already approved. Hon. R. Wayne Scott: Point of clarification.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Minister of Education. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. R. Wayne Scott: I am going to do this another way. I am going to take our current Budget Book 2016/17, and I am going to turn to page B -109 for the Member. If we look …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? There are no Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3. We need to move to Item No. 4, Ministry of Tourism, Development and Transport. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Hold on a minute, Madam …
The Chairman Chairman I understand— Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: If you had $10, I gave you $10 to go buy a loaf of bread—
The Chairman Chairman Do not ask me. This is for the Minister to answer. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: But I am asking you, if I gave you $10 for a loaf of bread —
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Do not ask the Chair. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: You go and find a loaf of bread for $8, and then you come back to me and say that you want $2 more. I gave you $2. You already have the $2. [Inaudible interjections] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3? There are no other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 3. We will move to Item No. 4 under the Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for Financial Year 2015/16. I call on the Ministry …
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Madam Chai rman. I am just wondering, when it comes to the fuel and overtime ferry services, how much of that was allocated to the Millennium for the 2015/16 year. I am just wondering if we were responsible for paying for the fuel to and/or from the Island …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister from constituency 22, Dr. the Honourable. E. G. Gibbons. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Do you want to take—
The Chairman Chairman Oh, sorry. Yes . . . no, that is fine. Minister if you would have a seat, then, I would go to the Member from constituency 6. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, this once again proves it is not that the budget has been …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 4? No. Minister? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Let me work backwards. The— [Inaudible interjection and laughter] Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Something about a cold day somewhere. I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. I will go back to the floor. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 4 which is the Ministry of Tourism, Development and Transport? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 24.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Madam Chai rman. What the Minister just said is just a little co ncerning, that for the 2016/17 budget they have already allocated $1 million for MRGs. I un derstand what is going on. But if we are to look at the numbers, it looks as though in …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 4? There are no other Members. We will move to Item No. 5, the Ministry of Public Works. The Chair recognises the Minister, the Ho nourable L. C. Cannonier, from constituency 12. You have the …
The Chairman Chairman No, Member. We are just going to stick to— Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. It has been proposed that the sum of $5,470,756 for the Ministry of Public Works form part of the estimates as printed. Are there any Members that would like to speak to Item No. 5? Thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35, the Honourable D. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: I guess my question here, Madam Chairman, to the Minister would be, Has the issue that caused the health issue been fully addressed? Are any other officers exposed to the same matter that caused Government to find itself in court over that matter for that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 5? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 15. You have the floor.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Yes, thank you, Madam Chai rman. Just to query Head 36, Legal Settlement, which appears to be related to a matter that co ncerned a police officer. Can the Honourable Mi nister give us the name of that case itself? Is this expected to be the only disbursements on that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Would anyone else like to speak to Item No. 5? The Chair recognises the Minister for Public Works . You have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, thank you, Madam Chairman. Let me move first to the question that was asked about the Emmerson Donald case …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 5? Thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman. I think I am forced to make a comment on this—the substandard trucks I heard a comment on. I as the Minister at the time when the trucks were purchased. When I came into the Ministry, the technical team had already gone to look at …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 5? The Chair recognises the Minister of Public Works. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am not sure exactly what angle to take on that. I never said “substandard.” What I did …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 5? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman. What I was simply saying was that it has been three years now so the mechanics have had plenty of time to have been trained. And at this point and time we should know the most frequently needed parts that these trucks need when they …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 5? The Chair recognises the Minister of Public Works. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I think the Honourable Member is missing the point here. I said major mechanical iss ues. For instance, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 5? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Madam Chairman, I really do not want to prolong this. I do not think it is the type of matter that …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to Item No. 5? There are no other Members so we will move to Item No. 6. That would be the Ministry of Comm unity, Culture and Sport. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman We are going to approve everything at the end. Thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency —sorry, Minister — Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: [Constituency] 23.
The Chairman Chairman Sorry? Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Twenty -three.
The Chairman Chairman Twenty -three. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, the Ministry of Community, Culture and Sport, Item No. 6 on the supplementary estimate for Financial Assistance is in respect of s ocial assistance grant for $6,001,500. The Department of Financial Assistance has a statutory responsibility to …
The Chairman Chairman Members, it has been proposed that the sum of $6,001,500 for the Head Ministry of Community, Culture and Sport stand part of the estimate as printed. Are there any Members that would like to speak to Item No. 6? [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman I apologise. Sorry, Member from constituency 16. Thank you for your patience. Please proceed.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Madam Chairman, with this particular budget it is hard to really say much. I understand the climate that we are existing and living in right now. But I must just comment that it is déjà vu because in 2013/14 the actual was $49 million and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to Item No. 6? The Chair recognises the Minister from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, Honourable Members will know that Financial Assistance is not an exact science in terms …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to Item No. 6? There are no other Members who would like to speak to Item No. 6? We will move to Item No. 7, Ministry of N ational Security. The Chair recognises the Premier. Hon. Michael H. …
The Chairman Chairman Head number? Oh, sorry. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Head 6.
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Moving Head 6. [Pause] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Item No. 6. We just fi nished 6, so we are going to Item No. 7 now. Are you with me?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Please proceed. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Okay. Thank you. In regard to Defence, in Head 6, there are $89,634, which covers the embodiment for two days’ pay for Regiment soldiers during Hurricane Joaquin on October 4 th and 5th of 2015. There are $164,000 that are needed to cover …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to . . . (Sorry.) It has been proposed that the sum of $2,953,634, which is for the head under the Ministry of National Security, stand part of the estimates as printed. Are there any other Members who …
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Madam Chairman. First, a comment relating to Defence, Head 6. Certainly, I do not think anyone would want to contest the work that was done around Hurricane Joaquin, because that was really work that the country benefi tted directly from, from the galvanising of those Regi-ment soldiers to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair recognises the Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. In regard to the police, $200,000 is what is expected to be short at the end of this financial year. I just also mentioned that with the late agreement with the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to Item No. 7? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 15.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you. A question for the Premier, because I accept the explanation about ageing inmates. Perhaps the Premier could give a rough estimate as to how many inmates are currently in the system who are over the age of 65? Clearly, the older ones are the ones who would bring …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to item 7? No? We will move to Item No. 8, Works and Engineering. I call on the Minister of Public Works. (Sorry.) We propose the sum of $450,000 for Work s and Engineering, Head 65, stand part …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to Item No. 8? 1668 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, my first question for the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister of Public Works. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Again, I am not an accountant, but I am simply following the Financial Instructions that we must fall under. As I said, it is a technical supplementary. I can understand exactly what the Honourable …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to Item No. 8? If not, we move on to Item No. 9. We propose that the sum of $400,000 for the Tourism Development and Transport Headquarters, Head 65, stand part of the estimates as printed. I call …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to Item No. 9? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Just to rise, Madam Chai rman, just to say that there is a understanding as to why the money is needed. So …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. That would conc lude the Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for Financial Year 2015/16. We move that the adoption of the Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for Financial Year 2015/16 be approved as printed and reported to the House. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Members. The Supplementary Estimate (No. 1) for F inancial Year 2015/16 has been approved. Orders Nos. 7 and 8 are carried over. And we move now to Order No. 9. And we are going to do O rder Nos. 9, 18 and 19. But I will let …
The Speaker The Speaker Excuse me? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Order Nos. 9 and 10.
The Speaker The Speaker What? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Well, we will do O rder No. 10.
The Speaker The Speaker Orders Nos. 9, 18 and 19. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: You are correct, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I think I am correct. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, yes. We are going to aggregate three of these sets of regulations.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. So you carry on. Carry on, Mini ster for Economic Development. The Minister of Finance needs to pay his r espects. [Laughter] Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: He just came to get out of here, Mr. Speaker. What can I say? REGULATIONS MARINE BOARD (SEABORNE SERVICES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. Would you like to now proceed? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, yes. The purpose of the Regulations and Amendments to Regulations before the House today or tonight is to revise the fees payable by commercial vessels calling at Bermuda as covered …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Absolutely. We do not go to Committee on these. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Okay. Let me start with port dues. For port dues, clause 1 is the citation. The Regulations shall be known as the Marine and Ports Authority (Port Dues) Amendment Regulations 2016. Clause 2 amends …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes, you have got the right order. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: All right. Good. Clause 1 is the citation. The Regulations shall be known as the Marine Board (Pilotage Dues) Amendment Regulations 2016. Clause 2 revokes and replaces —
The Speaker The Speaker Just make sure that you have got it. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Clause 2 revokes and replaces the Schedule of dues payable per metre of a vessel’s draught per port of destination or departure. Clause 3 states that the Regulations shall come into force on the 1 st …
The Speaker The Speaker Which clause should it be? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: It should be numbered clause 3. There are no clauses 3 and 4.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member In the Marine Board Seaborne? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Yes, ye s. That is the one. So we have got clause 1. We have got clause 2. And then it jumps on the piece in front of you to clause 5. That really should read “clause 3,” and …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: So it is just a typo, a numbering typo. Okay. Mr. Speaker, those are my comments. Thank you, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Shadow Minister for Transport, MP Scott. Mr. Scott, you have the floor.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This one should be . . . we do not really see any issues with this. We see these three more as administrative and housekeeping.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister Gibbons. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Honourable Member for his support. I move that the draft set of Regulations be approved and that a message be sent from this Honourable House to His Excellency …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Are there any objections to that? There are none. So the Regulations have been approved, and a message will be sent to His Excellency the Governor. Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: Draft Regulations entitled the Marine Board (Seaborne Services) Amendment Regulations 2016; The Marine Board (Pilotage …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. We now move to Order No. 10. And Order No. 10 is in the name of the Minister of Finance, Doctor . . . Minister E. T. Richards. You have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Ah, yes. I will take it.
The Speaker The Speaker You will take the “Doctor”? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Yes, yes, sure. [Laughter] BILL SECOND READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members are requested to give consideration to the Bill entitled the Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2016. Mr. Speaker, the Bill …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 35. MP Dennis Lister, you have the floor. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in general, we are in support of the Bill that is before …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? Then, Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the Bill is now committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Fine. Any objections to the Bill being committed? There are none. Deputy [Speaker], please take the Chair [of Committee]. House in Committee at 12:48 am [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2016 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. We have before us …
The Chairman Chairman That would be easier to work with. Are there any objections to working with clauses 1 through 14? No? Please proceed. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, the first clause is the cit ation. Clause 2 amends section 2A of the principal Act, adding section …
The Chairman Chairman Eight -four-seven- nine. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: It is 8479.892. Did I transpose those?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Okay. Sorry. I see you are following along closely, Madam Chairman. I am most impressed. [Laughter] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Clause 10 amends Chapter 85 of the First Schedule to the principal Act. Par agraph (a) adds tariff codes “8509.801” and “8509.809,” and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 14? Thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Madam Chairman, I think we followed along pretty clearly with the Minister when he was reading it. I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Finance Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: When, Honourable Member, it is used as a truck, you do not have to pay up front. You do not have to pay up front. You asked me whether or not you have to pay up front …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Finance Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I think in those two sc enarios, the second scenario (where the vehicle is used as a truck), you can apply to get a retrospective tax relief. All right?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members wh o would like to speak to clauses 1 through 14? There are no other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 14, Minister. If you could move the 1 through 14 clauses. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 to 14 be approved as printed. Any objections to that m otion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 14 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed, Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, I would like to move that the Bill be amended in clause 15 of the Bill.
The Chairman Chairman Does everyone have a copy of the proposed amendment? Yes? Please proceed, Minister. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 15 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: To amend clause 15 of the Bill by: deleting the full -stop at the end of par a1676 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to the amendment to clause 15? Are there any other Members who would like to speak to the entire clause 15? No. There are no Members. Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob ) Richards: So I move clause 15 …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 15 be approved as amended. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clause 15 passed as amended.] AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 16 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: In clause 16 of the Bill, by repealing clause 16 and replacing the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to the amendment to clause 16 of the Bill? No, there are no Members who would like to speak to the amendment. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to the entire clause? (Well, that …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 16 be approved as amended. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clause 16 passed as amended.] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, I would like to move the Preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I move that the Bill be reported to the House as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as amended. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. [Motion carried: The Customs Tari ff Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Committee of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Members, the second reading of the Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2016 in the name of the Minister of Finance has been approved as amended. Order No. 11 has been withdrawn earlier t oday. We move now to Order No. 12, which is the Morgan’s Point Resort Amendment Act 2016, …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? Carry on. BILL Bermuda House of Assembly SECOND READING MORGAN’S POINT RESORT AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The principal objective for the introduction of the Bill is to amend the Morgan’s Point Resort Act 2014 (the Act) to alter the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Would any other Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister in his presentation basically laid out pretty clearly why this amendment is before us tonight. And, Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Lister. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? Minister. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recognise that Morgan’s Point Limited is seeking in their first phase to start getting on with their first phase of work by America’s Cup 2017, the summer of …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to the Bill being committed? Thank you. Deputy [Speaker]? [Pause] Hous e in Committee at 1:19 am [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL MORGAN’S POINT RESORT AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Morgan’s Point Resort Amendment Act 2016 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Mi nister, yo u have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Since there …
The Chairman Chairman Member, I believe you have an amendment? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman And that will be to clause 2. So if we could just do clause 1 first. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Okay. Yes. Thank you, Madam Chairman. Clause 1 is the standard citation.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clause 1? There are no Members, so we can have it approved. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 1 be approved as printed. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Clause 1 pas sed.] [Gavel]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, if you could just do clause 2. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 2 Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Clause 2 amends various definitions in section 2 of the principal Act to refer to the details of the new pla ns. There are reference numbers and areas in Schedules …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Does everyone have a copy of the proposed amendment? Yes, everyo ne has a copy of the pr oposed amendment. Is there any Member who would like to speak to the amendment before us? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Madam …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister , if you would move just the clause 2. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move clause 2 of the Bill.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 2 be approved as amended. Any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clause 2 passed as amended.]
The Chairman Chairman Now, Minister, you can move clauses 3 through 5 now. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. I move clauses 3 through 5. Clause 3 amends section 6(1)(c) in reference to Schedule 3, Land E xchange Plan, the drawing number to reflect the dra wing number of the new Land Exchange …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 3 through 5? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, the only comment I have is in reference to clause 4. Under the new clause …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Mini ster. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I would need to get that. I actually do not know the breakdown right at hand.
The Chairman Chairman We will wait. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: If you will give me a second. Yes. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chairman. One leasehold and balance freehold, thirty - six.
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: So, of the original 37, one was a freehold, and the — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The balance were leas eholds. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: And the others were leas ehold. So basically, we are seeing a major …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Just taking a quick look at the area that we are talking about, it was not subdivided before. So that would be the answer to why it appears as if . . . but it …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. The Chair now recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Unfortunately, Madam Chai rman, I do not really have a full comparison in order to be able to compare what was before and what is now. So I am a bit reserved with the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank yo u. The Chair recognises the Honourable and Learned Member from constituency 24 [sic] . Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Madam Chairman. The Shadow Minister of Public Works did ask me to look at this from a legal perspective. As far as I can see, the leasehold land …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members That is right. Hon. Michael J. Scott: I mean, it is the same land. It is a subdivision. So within that, large lots have changed. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Hon. Michael J. Scott: And so, there has been no major significant alteration. Yes. I think we are all right.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 3 through 5? There are none. Minister. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I now move all five clauses.
The Chairman Chairman We are going to move the three clauses. We already moved 1 and 2. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Oh, the three, yes, clauses 3, 4 and 5.
The Chairman Chairman So we are moving that clauses 3 through 5 be approved as printed. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 3 through 5 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Now we will move the Schedules. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman We will move Schedules 2 through 5? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Move Schedules 2 through 5, yes.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Schedules 2 through 5 be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Scheduled 1 through 5 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman The Preamble? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move the Preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Any objection to that motion? No objections, Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that the Bill be reported to the House as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as amended. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Morgan’s Point Resort Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed as amended.] House resumed …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Members, the Morgan’s Point Resort Amendment Act 2016 has been approved with amendments. The next Order of Business, Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2016, in the name of the Learned Attorney General and Minister of Legal Af-fairs. Minister Moniz, you have the fl oor. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? Carry on, please, Minister. BILL SECOND READING PROCEEDS OF CRIME AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2016 seeks to make amendments to section 25 of the Proceeds of Crime …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister, Attorney General. Would any other Honourable Members care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Learned Member from constituency 36. MP Michael Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have absolutely no objections to the reorganisation and …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? Minister, Attorney General. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. S peaker. I move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker It has been moved that the Bill be committed. Are there any objections to that? Okay. [Pause] House in Committee at 1:35 am [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL PROCEEDS OF CRIME AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2016 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move clauses 1, …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections? No objections. Minister, please proceed. 1682 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Clause 1 is the title of the Bill. Clause 2 repeals and replaces section 25 of the principal Act (which is a …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? There are no Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3. Attorney General, you have the floor. You will just move the clauses. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Yes. I move …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved as printed. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Madam Chairman, I move the Preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: I move that the Bill as printed be reported to the House.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill as printed be reported to the House. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.] [Pause] House resumed at …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2016, has been approved. We move now to Order No. 14. This is the first [sic] reading — The Clerk: This is the second reading.
The Speaker The Speaker —of the Police and Criminal Evidence Amendment Act 2016, in the name of the Attorney General and Minister of Legal Affairs. So the Chair will recognise the Learned Attorney General. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the Bill entitled the Police and Criminal …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that?
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on. BILL SECOND READING POLICE A ND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. By introducing the Police and Criminal Evidence Amendment Act 2016, I am pleased to present to this Honourable House this important piece of legi slation to amend the principal …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Attorney General. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Learned Member from constituency 36. MP Michael Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, sir. We, in large measure, welcome the facility of a police caution, given that it …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 15. MP Roban, you have the floor.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to echo the sentiments shared by my honourable and learned friend to my left, from constituency 36. The Bill which brings into place a number of new cautions will clearly have some impact on how the police conduct themselves, Mr. Speaker, in …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Member care to speak? Then I revert back to the Attorney General. You have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the two Honourable Members on the other side who made contributions to this debate. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Attorney General. Any objections to that? The Bill will be committed. Deputy Speaker? [Pause] House in Committee at 1:54 am [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL POLICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Police and Criminal Evidence Amendment Act 2016. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank y ou. Thank you, Madam Chairman. I …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections? There are no objections. Please proceed. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Madam Chairman, this is pretty much as I set it out in the House. Clause 1 is the citation. Clause 2 inserts the new section 36A after section 36 of the PACE, Police and Criminal Evidence …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Attorney General. Are there any Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 5? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 36. You have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Madam Chairman. M adam Chairman, just to repeat my observ ations earlier, that we …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Learned Member. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 5? No other Members. The Chair recognises the Attorney General. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: In that case, I move clauses 1 through 5.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 5 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Thank you. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 5 passed.] Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: I move the Preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Madam Chairman, I move that the Bill as printed be reported to the House.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill as printed be reported to the House. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Moti on carried: The Police and Criminal Evidence Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Commi ttee of the whole House and passed without amendment.] [Pause] House …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Members. The Police and Criminal Evidence Amendment Act 2016, in the name of the Attorney General, has been ap-proved. We move on now. Order No. 15 is carried over. We mo ve to Order No. 16 in the name of the Junior Minister of Home Affairs. Sylvan …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, wait a minute. I am not clear here. You are doing the Legal Mortgage and Security Agreement? Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker. They are actually being done together.
The Speaker The Speaker I am not understanding this. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Okay. There were two documents —
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, right. I have two documents. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Yes. The Legal Mor tgage and Security —
The Speaker The Speaker Can you do those two separately so I can understand them, because . . . Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Okay. Well, the brief that I have . . . they are being done together.
The Speaker The Speaker All right then. Carry on. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: The brief refers to both documents.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Carry on. Thank you. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Okay. As I alluded to earlier in my presentation, the purpose of this loan facility is to enable the Corpor ation to repay amounts owed to MIF pursuant to the judgment dated 27 th of May 2015, obtained by …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from const ituency 15. MP Walter Roban, you have the floor.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1688 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Honourable Junior Minister did give an explanation of these credit facilities and loan doc uments. I do not profess to be a financial whiz, but obviously, we kind of understand why these documents are …
The Speaker The Speaker Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable A ttorney General. You have the floor, Learned Member. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Mr. Speaker, I can just speak to the letter of comfort to say that the letter of comfort is not here, but it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Attorney Ge neral. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 18, MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, I will be very brief. But knowing that we are back here on something else following on something else following on something else following on something that originated way back in 2013, where on this side of the House we were very clear that the Government may have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Are there any other Members who care to speak? Then all those in favour, say Aye. Those against, say Nay. AYES.
The Speaker The Speaker The Ayes have it. [Motion carried: The Legal Mortgage and Security Agreement between the Corporation of Hamilton and Clarien Bank, Limited was considered by the House and approved. ]
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on with Order No. 17. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In terms of Order No. 16, I move that a message be sent —
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, before you do that, I just wanted to indicate that a message also will be sent to His Excellency the Governor in this regard. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you. Okay. Order No. 17. I now move that this Honourable House approve the Bermuda Dollar Credit Facility Agreement …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. All those in favour, say Aye. Those against, say Nay. AYES. 1690 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: So that is moved. [Motion carried: The Bermuda Dollar Credit Facility Agreement between the Corporation of Hamilton “the borrower” and Clarien Bank Limited was …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Member. That concludes Order Nos. 16 and 17. All other Orders are carried over? All Oppos ition Orders are carried over? There is one other Order. We do have the Honourable Premier. You have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute, Premier. First of all, we have to . . . I think we have ask for leave, do we not? I think so. Just one second. Any objections? All right. There are no objections. All right, Premier. MOTION MINISTERS AND MEMBERS OF THE LEGISL ATURE (SALARIES AND …
The Speaker The Speaker I am just going to make sure that the Members have that, Premier. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Let the Speaker have one as well. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Do not forget the Speaker. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, Premier. You may carry on. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members might r ecall that in April 2013, Ministers of this Government agreed to cut their ministerial salaries by 10 per cent. This step was taken in recognition of the concern upon assuming …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Would any Honourable Members care to speak? No one is speaking to the Premier? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that they be approved.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Are there any objections to that? There are no objections. The Ministers and Members of the Legislature (Salaries and Pension) Amendment is approved. [Motion carried: Ministers and Members of the Legi slature (Salaries and Pension) Amendment approved.]
The Speaker The Speaker We have completed all of the Orders. So, the Chair will recognise the Minister of Finance. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to permit me to move that the Bill ent itled …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Minister, carry on, please. BILL THIRD READING LAND TAX AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? The Bill is passed. [Motion carried: The Land Tax Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will now recognise the Minister for Public Work s. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled the Mor-gan’s Point Resort Amendment Act 2016 be now …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Please carry on, Minister. BILL THIRD READING MORGAN’S POINT RESORT AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I move that the Bill do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? The Bill is passed. [Motion carried: The Morgan’s Point Resort Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will now recognise the Learned Attorney General. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled the Pr oceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2016 be …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Attorney General. BILL THIRD READING PROCEEDS OF CRIME AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: The Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2016. I move that the Bill do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any objections? There are none. [Motion carried: The Proceeds of Crime Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Attorney General, carry on. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: I am obliged, Mr. Speaker. I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled the Police and Criminal Evidence Amendment Act 2016 be now read the third time by …
The Speaker The Speaker Any obj ections to that? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on. BILL THIRD READING POLICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: The Police and Criminal Ev idence Amendment Act 2016. I move that the Bill do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any objections? The Bill is passed. 1692 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: The Police and Criminal Evidence Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have one? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I have one more.
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Minister. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended in order to enable me to move that the Bill entitled the Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2016 be now read by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any objections to that? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Minister. BILL THIRD READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, the Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2016. I move that the Bill do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any objections? The Bill is passed. [Motion carried: The Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker That completes the Orders.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Michael H. Dunkley premier Yes, Mr. Speaker. I move that we adjourn now to May 13th.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 15. IMMIGRATION REFORM POLICIES
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we come to the close of this, what some might call historic session of Parliament to break for perhaps what I consider to be a well -earned respite from the affairs of state, there is no doubt that the last five days have …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Bad side?
Mr. Walter H. Roban Yes, to the side where you have to enforce the rules on me, Mr. Speaker. I am 1694 21 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly doing my best. I am sure you will give me guidance if I stray. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Walter H. Roban But we even witnessed these events, certainly over the last five days of this partic ular effort to reject the Government policy, build to a state where thousands of Bermudians showed their own displeasure to the point where the conduct of this House was interrupted. We saw the same Gover …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, that is it! Come on, guys. The Chair recognises the Honourable and Learned Member from constituency 36. MP Scott, you have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, without reflecting too much upon the motion of urgent public importance debate in this place, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Learned A ttorney General. You have the floor. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is ironic to stand here this morning to listen to these speeches and these, dare I say, threats. Dare you bring …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is you. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Unfortunately, it is not us, you see, because they actually seem to prefer you guys these days. [Laughter] Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: You know, when we speak on the motion to adjourn, you do not get us reported. All …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons The Honourable Member is misleading the House. I had several white friends with me all day and several who attested they were not attacked. While these attacks, if they did occur, are reprehensible, certainly not all people who came r eceived these attacks . Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Carry on, Minister. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. These proposals that are contained in the Bill are quite reasonable. I believe that the agreement that was reached by goodwill on both sides . . . because the Member on that said, Oh, …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: You might think it is funny, Mr. Burt. But it is not funny, Mr. Burt. Do not sit there and giggle.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member. Let us have order. [Gavel]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I think one of the main reasons why we find ourselves in the situation we do today, having just passed, I guess, what everybody has now termed a historical event, was borne out of the fact that when faced with legislation that was termed Pathways to …
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 4, the Deputy Speaker.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know it is really difficult sometimes to stand up and talk, but I think sometimes we have an oblig ation. And the truth of it is, Mr. Speaker, I am not really even sure whether all my thoughts in my head will come out in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Member from constituency 13.
Mr. Diallo V. S. Rabain Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, Mr. Speaker, as I reflect on the past week’s events my heart aches. I know that the people have gone back to work. A so- called deal has been brokered. Work stoppages have ceased. And we are back in this Chamber doing the people’s …
Mr. Diallo V. S. Rabain Now we have the same Minister who is at the middle of every controversial imm igration topic that has come up since the One Bermuda Alliance has been elected. But somehow, we have not heard anyone on that side stand up and ad-dress Ms. Leah Scott’s letter that was supposedly …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 24. Honourable Member Scott, you have the floor.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this topic and the actions that were taken by the country last week remind me of a story in First Kings, Chapter 3, verses 16 to 28. And that story, Mr. Speaker, is the one of two young women. They both lived in the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, thank you.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Okay, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Stay away from that, Honourable Member, unless you know that is a fact.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I will stay away from that; no problem. But when they were talking about different options and different things and different ways of mov-ing forward, Members on that side were saying, You know what? We need to pull this Bill because you know what? I have family up there. I …
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will now recognise the Minister, Patricia Gordon- Pamplin. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is important for me to weigh in to this because I think that when Members opposite start to become emotional about what has happened, as we all are, …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Michael J. Scott: It is very late, Mr. Speaker, and the Member is misleading the House. Section 20B was passed into law in this Chamber in 1994 or 1996.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The PRC amendments . . . sorry. it may not be section 20B. But the PRC amendment that was put through by former Premier Paula Cox, which was what led to the cha llenges that had come through, which led to the Carne …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 33.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Good morning to you, and good morning to the listening audience. Mr. Speaker, I remember reading a story in the Royal Gazette that the One Bermuda Alliance was searching around for a new consultant. And I hope that it is true, because the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt Good evening, Mr. Speaker, or good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. It is five o’clock in the morning.
Mr. E. David Burt Exactly, 5:02 am. Mr. Speaker, before I begin my substantive remarks, on behalf of the Leader of the Opposition, who cannot be with us this morning, I wish everyone in Bermuda a happy and safe Good Friday and Easter weekend and springtime, before we get back for our summer session. …
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Point of clarific ation. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser I am the only Member in this House on either side that has stood up for something I believed in.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you certainly did.
Mr. E. David Burt Well, . . . and here is what I would say. I would say I thank the Honourable Deputy Speaker for her clarification, because she is right. But she had a time to do it again a few days ago. And she did not vote for a joint select committee. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Minister, Minister Atherden. You have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, it is late at night, or early in the morning, depending on what perspective you are coming from.
The Speaker The Speaker It is early in the morning. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: It is actually very late in the night. We have been here a long time. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: The reason I am still here is because, Mr. Speaker, I believe all of us have the responsibility as …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. You don’t feel like going home? [Inaudible interjection and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise—
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will not be very long.
The Speaker The Speaker —the Whip for the Government. I guess I have to let him speak.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have been through some difficult times. Mr. Speaker, the past week has not been comfortable; in fact, it has been painful. It has been painful because the community is in pain, be-cause the community is frightened, because the community is unsettled, because the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Premier. It looks like we might get out of here just before 6:00 am. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, let me be very clear to honourable colleagues. I appreciate colleagues have spoken on this …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Point of order.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. E. David Burt The Honourable Premier may not know, but he may not want to go there. He may want to caution away from that. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Right. I would say yes. The Opp osition Leader is out for good reason, Honourable Pr emier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley : I can appreciate that, Mr. Speaker. I say that to get back to the Opposition Leader’s comments, I believe it was yesterday or over the weekend, where …
The Speaker The Speaker Come on, Honourable Members. You have been very good, very good. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: That is right. Not once during this debate did I open my mouth when they were speaking. I listened intently, because this is an important debate. But I get particularly disappointed when I hear Honourable …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Honourable Mem ber. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. E. David Burt Point of order. The Honourable Member is clearly misleading the House. He may not have been in the House when the Attorney General of the country asked why the police were not arresting protesters!
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Member. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: I did not say that. What I said was that the demonstrators were preventing Members of Parliament from doing their democratic job under the Constitution. We were —
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Attorney General. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: —unable to access the House.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Attorney General. Thank you, Attorney General. Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the Honourable Attorney General cleared up that point. So there is no need to go over it anymore. Now, let us get back to the situation of imm igration reform. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Premier. Honourable Members, the House is adjourned to Friday, May 13th. [Gavel] [At 5:55 am (Tuesday, 22 March 2016), the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 13 May 2016.]
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