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March 11, 2016

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Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 11, 2016
Session 2015/2016
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554 speeches from 29 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Members, the Minutes of March 7th and 9th are deferred. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker Members L. K. Scott, the Junior Mini ster, and D. V. Burgess continue to be away. Additionally, M ember W. L. Furbert will be absent today. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Learned Attorney General. FINANCIAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR YEARS ENDED MARCH 31 ST, 2013, 2014 AND 2015 FINANCIAL INTELLIGENCE REPORT FOR THE YEARS 2012/13, 2013/14 AND 2014/15 Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I have two. Firstly, Mr. Speaker, I have the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Attorney General . The Clerk: Additionally, Members, please be advised that soft copies of these communications are avai lable, and they will be sent to you electronically. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Good morning and thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I rise to address this Honourable House in the wake of the call by the People’ s Campaign for an Island- wide wit hdrawal of labour today. Mr. Speaker, governments are called upon to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Leader of the Opposition. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, good morning. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Good morning to honourable colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Ho nourable Premier.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, sir. QUESTION 1: RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: To the Honourable Premier, in light of this strike action, can the Honourable Premier share with this House if the Government’s current po-sition on Pathways to Status is unchanged?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member called it a strike a ction. I believe it was worded a withdrawal of labour. And our current position remains the same.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 17, MP Walton Brown. QUESTION 1: RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Mr. Walton Brown Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Honourable Premier answer the following, Mr. Speaker: Given that the Premier refers to a mandate to act and to lead on these matters, will the Premier accept that there is no such mandate, given that his party prior to the 2012 election expressly stated …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 29. QUESTION 1: RES PONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The question I have for the Premier is this. On the last page in his …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, that is our view. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Premier, you said that this is your view. When you say your view, who is “your”? Who are you referring to?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I did not say your or my view. I said “ our” view.
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have another supplementary? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker, thank you. Can you clarify who “ our” is then? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Government of Bermuda.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Learned Member from constituency 34. MP De Silva [sic].
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Wilson, actually. [ Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Wilson.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Would the Premier admit and acknowledge that forming such views without the presence of any type of statistics to confirm that view may actually result in the actions that we are seeing today?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I do not agree with the substance of the question. No.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise MP Walton Brown. This is your second question?
Mr. Walton Brown Yes. The Speaker: Yes, sir. QUESTION 2 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMP AIGN
Mr. Walton Brown In light of the growing and perv asive discontent with regard to the Government’s a pproach to immigration reform, is the Premier prepared to accept greater and greater social unrest that is likely to follow, rather than commit to a c ollaborative broad- debate approach reflective of comprehensive immigration reform?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I do not support the approach that there are some in this comm unity who would like to see tensions continue to rise. And I think it is unfortunate that Members continue to walk along that path. This is a very emotive issue, …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Brown, you have a supplementary on that?
Mr. Walton Brown Mr. Speaker, I do have a supplementary, and it will come to me right now.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes.
Mr. Walton Brown But my question for the Honourable Premier —
The Speaker The Speaker Is this another new question?
Mr. Walton Brown It is new, my third question. It is my third question.
The Speaker The Speaker You had a supplementary on that question? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. MP De Silva. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Premier, you just said that you have been swamped by people who support it. Can you give us 1428 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly an example of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, Bermudians of all walks of life.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Whip, from constituency 3.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you. Mr. Premier, there have been many —
The Speaker The Speaker This is a question?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo A supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker A supplementary on that?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo There have been many whom we have been swamped by. And we believe that it is our responsibility to bring the concerns to you. Will you not engage in dialogue with us regarding the concerns that we are trying to share with you, Mr. Pr emier?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have always been open to engaging in dialogue.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Is this for a supplementary, Honourable Member?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Question.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, your name is not up here for questions. Yes, carry on, MP Wilson, the Learned Member. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. The Premier just indicated that [persons from] all walks of life have come to the Government e xpressing their concerns. Could he also confirm whether [people from] all walks of life include the West Indian Association? The Speaker: Honourable P remier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Supplemental, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 33 for a suppl ementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons The Honourable Premier just said that they have been in contact with members of the Caribbean association. Is the Honourable Pr emier aware that there are members of the Caribbean association calling Minister Fahy a word you cannot use in Parliament (you could outside) of being disho nest about the …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Not of the Caribbean association, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Supplemental, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Is he aware that the Jamaican Association is referring to the conversation that Minister Fahy has led, and the West Indian Associ ation are referring to the Honourable Minister who sits in another place as a person who is not telling the truth, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkl ey: Mr. Speaker, I do not b elieve that is an accurate statement, but the Minister does keep myself and honourable colleagues up to date.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Supplemental, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, no, you have had two supplementals already.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons All right. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 21. Question?
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Supplemental.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mr. Speaker, bearing in mind that the Premier has conceded that the claim that the majority support these measures has not been quantified, does the Premier and/or his Gover nment intend to quantify the support or lack thereof for these measures?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunk ley: Mr. Speaker, as we have always said, we will continue to be in dialogue and to listen to people.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 15. Is this your question, Honourable Member?
Mr. Walter H. Roban Question, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Question one, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on a second for me. Okay. Fair enough, Honourable Member. QUESTION 1 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Mr. Walter H. Roban Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, would the Honourable Premier agree, when one reads the sentence in his Statement which states, “immigration is one . . . issue that ignites the passions of many,” would the Premier not agree, by announcing on the day after the by -election, February 5th, …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Ho n. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, MP Roban, a supplementary?
Mr. Walter H. Roban Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Your second question. Yes, okay, sir. QUESTION 2 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Mr. Walter H . Roban Would the Premier not agree, by not following a pledge which one [made] in their Throne Speech, they are breaking a promise with the people of Bermuda?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Roban again.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have a supplementary. All right. Yes, go ahead.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Walter H. Roban I ask then, Mr. Speaker, what would the Premier describe as not following a promise to the people as?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not think that deals with this Statement.
The Speaker The Speaker You have another supplementary?
Mr. Walter H. Roban Actually, it was referring to the Statement. But I will move on, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
Mr. Walter H. Roban As my original question was about a promise and how he has ignited the passions in the people, which is in this Statement. The Sp eaker: All right. You have another question, Honourable Member?
The Speaker The Speaker I will come to you, MP Brown. Your third question. QUESTION 3 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Mr. Walter H. Roban Would the Premier not agree that by not having provided an opportunity for the pu blic to consult or deal with the Government prior to this 1430 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Bill being tabled, as the Government promised it would do when it …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker. I think everyone will recall the public meeting that was shut down recently. [ Inaudible inter jection ] [ Gavel] [ Pause] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. I think everyone will recall the public meeting that was shut down recently.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Do you have a supplementary?
Mr. Walter H. Roban Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker A supplementary. Carry on. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Walter H. Roban Would the Premier not agree with his Ministers’ calling members of the public “ bullies” as they freely and democratically expressed their displeasure with his policies not becoming of a Mini ster when it came to immigration policy?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, no.
The Speaker The Speaker You have a supplementary? Yes.
Mr. Walter H. Roban So the Premier is saying that it is okay for a minister to call the members of the public bullies?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I will turn that question back and ask, Is it okay for Members of Parliament to refer to others as “ cockroaches ”?
The Speaker The Speaker You have a supplementary? You have a question? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 21 with a question. Yes. QUESTION 1 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mr. Speaker, thank you. Will the Premier not concede that the intrans igence of this Government and their unwillingness to withdraw the Bill is proof positive that this Gover nment, contrary to their assertion, is not governing for the benefit of all Bermudians?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker. My Statement makes it very clear that we govern for the benefit of all of Bermuda and Bermudians.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, supplementary, yes? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Diallo V. S. Rabain Mr. Speaker, would the Pr emier let us know if he plans to speak to the several thousand people who are assembled outside, since he speaks for the majority of Bermudians?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I am always happy to talk and speak to people.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Hono urable Member from constituency . . . Just a minute. I am going to give one . . . I notice some reaction by members in the Gallery. Let me just say that if you sit in the Gallery, it is a privilege and …
Mr. Walton Brown Does the Premier appreciate that the current position outlined in the Statement, as well as his very terse responses to the questions today, will only lead to further discontent and expression of such discontent?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I do not agree with the approach to that question. I have al-ways tried to be understanding, respectful, and toler-ant at all times, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Brown, you have a supplementary? Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARIES Mr . Walton Brown: Yes. Will the Pr emier appreciate that dialogue rather than intransigence will lead to a better result for all Bermudians? Th e Speaker: Premier? Ho n. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker, and …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. Th e Speaker: You have already had your supplementaries.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Supplementary. Th e Speaker: No, you have already had two suppl ementaries, Honourable Member. Yes. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 18. Is this a supplementary? Mr . E. David Burt: Supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. Th e Speaker: Yes, supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Mr . E. David Bu rt: …
The Speaker The Speaker Oh. Okay, well, get to it the n. Hon. Michael J. Scott: From the BIU [Bermuda I ndustrial Union] requesting —this large party requesting that you withdraw Pathways to Status legislation?
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thanks. Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did r eceive a letter from the President of the BIU on, I believe it was Tuesday afternoon. I replied to that letter on Wednesday afternoon, and I have had no reply to my letter since that …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, Honourable Pr emier. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member, is this your question?
Mr. E. David Burt Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much —
The Speaker The Speaker Hold on one second. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Carry on, Honourable Member. QUESTION 1 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRA WAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to go to the Honourable Premier’s Statement where the Honourable Pr emier said, a majority in support of the proposals. I will pose the question to the P remier and hope that he will answer with actual data to …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have already answered that question earlier.
Mr. E. David Burt Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, when asked to r espond to the data that he has to support that position, the Premier said that it was o ur view. If the Premier says it is our view, then he must have data to support his position. So I am going to give the …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have nothing further to add t o what I have already commented on.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member, MP Burt, for a supplementary.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, supplementary question.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, I will ask the Honourable Premier, how many persons expressing their freedom to assemble and to express disappointment with their Government will it take for the Premier to realise that his position is not supported by a majority of the country?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I support the freedom of expression at all times. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. You have had your two supplementaries.
Mr. E. David Burt I am up to my second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Your second question.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much—
The Speaker The Speaker We have someone else who wants a supplementary.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair is recognising the Honourable Member from constituency 33, MP Simmons. SUPPLEMENT ARIES
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Would the Honourable Premier answer, if the reason he will not provide this Bermuda House of Assembly information because he is counting non- Bermudians as the majority, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker, that is not correct.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Supplemental, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Mr. Speaker, the Premier needs to answer Parliament and the people, why is he refusing to answer legitimate questions on why they believe there i s a majority of people who support this measure? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I will co ntinue to answer all of the questions that are given to me. And I do not consider that question to be som ething that I will expand on anymore, other than to say that this Government is always open and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 21. Your second question or supplementary?
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Supplementary. The Sp eaker: Yes. Carry on. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Rolfe Commissiong Mr. Speaker, will the Pr emier then concede that the glowing numbers dissem inated by his Cabinet Ministers, the Attorney General most principally, and one or two others, in the Royal Gazette, which cited glowing levels of support, giving actual numbers, had no basis in fact then?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Supplementary, yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The C hair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 35. MP Lister, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Premier, in most of your responses this morning, you refer to the fact that you are listening, you are hearing what the people …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, the challenge with that question is, Members on that side do not agree with this Government’s approach. And I am fine with that, Mr. Speaker. But we were elected to lead, and that is what we will do for the best interests of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Yes, MP Lister. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: The question was not in r egard to the approach f rom persons on this side of the House. The question was in response to persons outside of this House, the public who voted us into this House, who in very large numbers are taking …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Chair will recognise the Learned Member from constituency 36. SUPPLEMENTARY 1434 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael J. Scott: To the Premier: Mr. Premier, are you prepared to accept that this escalating situ ation will not be good for the economy, …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I think we can all accept, as I said in my Statement, that it will harm the people of Bermuda. But, Mr. Speaker, responsibility is a two-edged instrument. And I think that the Members of the Opposition need to focus in very clearly that that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 16. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, is the Premier willing to concede that when he goes out on the steps and sees the growing number of people who are trying to voice their concern, are you willing to tell them that their opinion does not matter?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, that question I do not support in any way. Everyone’s opinion mat-ters, Mr. Speaker. But it does not mean we are going to agree all the time. And if life was a bed of roses, then we would be smelling them every day …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, well, actually, Mr. Premier, I understand that everybody’s opinion matters. In this situation which is of such importance, would it not be better to have a collaborative effort from all walks of life, from different sectors of our society, so that we could comprehensively look …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker, that is what we have done. That is what we will continue to do. But I will draw back to the public meeting we had which was shut down.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 29. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Mr. Premier, you said that your decision was based on being swamped by the people who su pport this legislation. We are all aware in this House, right here as we sit, that there are hundreds of people outside who …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Thousands! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thousands who disagree with you. Why do you think those whom you have been swamped with who support this legislation are not out there as well if that is the case?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, that is a question that the Honourable Member should probably answer himself. People have diff erent ways of expressing themselves. And I would be surprised if pe ople who supported the legislation would be out there at this time, because they are going …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Premier. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 3, MP Foggo. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Since we serve at the will of the people, and the will of all people, and that a large majority of the people are not in accord with the pending legislation regarding immigration, will the Premier, in being a responsive Government, desist from their own motion on this legislation and …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, that question is basically a repetition of other questions, and I have already answered that.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member Burt, from constituency 18. Yes, you have another question?
Mr. E. David Burt Question number two, if I may, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, in the Honourable Premier’s Statement, the Honourable Premier said that immigration is an issue that ignites the passions. The question that I have to him is, Will the Premier take this opportunity right now to denounce and di savow those of his supporters who have taken to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, yes. I do not support comments from anywhere or anybody that are based on a foundation of hatred and disrespect. I was standing with an honourable colleague on Wednesday at the lunch break, and I overheard th at honourable colleague being slandered by …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 36, the Learned Member Michael Scott. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Premier, is it being responsible as the Leader of the Government of this day, is it being r esponsible to pursue a path that …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I do not agree with the foundation of that question, because in the position that we and Bermuda find ourselves in, the decisions we make are always very difficult. And the road ahead is always very uncertain because we live in an fast …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 33. MP Simmons, you have the floor. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with the Premier’s condemnation of racist statements, would he object to the outing of OBA/UBP operatives who have been paid in the past to post online, attacking black Bermudians?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. [Crosstalk ] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, that question is inappropriate, and I am not sure of the foundation of why that Honourable Member counts that. I have made it very clear —
The Speaker The Speaker Just hold on a second for me. Honourable Sergeant -at-Arms, will you please be aware? The Sergeant -at-Arms: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I made it very clear in my answer to the Honourable Member from constituency 18 just a few m oments ago that this Government does not support the approach where people pull other people down. And we will work with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The Chair will now recognise MP Burt. Is this your third question? 1436 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. E. David Burt: No, Mr. Speaker. It is a suppl ementary.
The Speaker The Speaker It is a supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. E. David Burt Yes, absolutely, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the response that the Honourable Premier just gave, he just said that we would hope that people would refrain from statements that would pull other people down. Then I will ask, why would the Honourable Premier feel that it is appropr iate for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Ja mahl S. Simmons Supplemental, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. The Chair will recognise MP Si mmons. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons The Honourable Premier did not answer my question. Would the Premier support the outing of OBA Members who are posting ra cist comments online anonymously, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I support the outing of anyone who does that type of thing. Because no one in this House supports that type of approach.
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute. I see a lady standing. Honourable . . . [Sergeant -at-Arms]. Yes, there is a lady sitting in the front row there. Will you please ask her to leave the House? The lady who is blonde. She is blonde. [Pause while the Sergeant -at-Arms removed a stranger …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Carry on, please, with the answer to MP Simmons’s question. Did you answer that question? You did, yes. All right. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? You have a supplementary? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, your question. All right. Just one second. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker MP De Silva. Okay, MP De Silva. QUESTION 2 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Premier, on the first page of your Stat ement, second paragraph, you state, No one has di sputed the need for …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I believe I have already answered that question. But I am happy to reiterate that we are always willing to listen and consult with people. And I think Minister Fahy made that clear yesterday.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Yes, the Chair will recognise MP Weeks. Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Premier, if you take a rethink on withdrawing the Bill, it would not [make] you or the Government [appear] weak, per se. But it will go a long way in keeping to the promises you made of being collaborativ e and listening to the will …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Another repetition. And yes, we will continue to listen.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The Chair will now recognise MP Burt. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. E. David Burt This is my second supplementary on my second question, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. In the early response, the Honourable Premier said that he has no problem with people expressing their opinion. Can the Honourable Premier please give us the justification between making that statement and then branding the actions of those people who were expressing their rights …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I am not sure which rights under the Constitution the Honourable Member believes I need to clarify. The Sp eaker: Thank you. Yes, you have had your two. Do you have question three?
Mr. E. David Burt I will go to question number three,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Okay. Yes.
Mr. E. David Burt Because if the Honourable Pr emier of this country is not aware of s ection 10 of our own Constitution, then we clearly have an issue. Mr. Speaker, I will go on to question number three.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Mr. E. David Burt Question number three is, going again back to the majority do support the proposals, I will ask the Honourable Premier this: Given the fact that governments must govern based on the mandates of the people whom they govern, can the Honourable Premier please state, based on what expression of consent …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I will repeat again for Honourable Members who need som e more clarity. Governments are elected to lead. During the course of the time in office between any elections, there are many very difficult decisions to make. And the Government is required to …
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Yes, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. The Chair will recognise the Learned Member from constituency 34, MP Wilson.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplemental.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Can the Honourable Premier confirm to us and the listening audience that the mandate of the Government is (quote) “that it is how we will continue mov ing this Government forward,” as it is stated on page 3 but then wiped out and inked out in ink. I will ask …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speak er. Moving this country forward.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Premier said that he gave a response, talki ng about 1438 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly over the course of the election, over the course of the Government’s term in office. I ask a very specific question: What does this Government …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have already answered that question.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Chair will recognise the Leader of the Opposition. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Is this a question or a supplementary? Hon. Marc A . R. Bean: This is, I believe, my second question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Let us see. Just a minute, Member. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Because I led off.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. That is true. It is your second question. QUESTION 2 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, will the Honourable Premier confirm, as a result of their entrenched position regarding Pathways to Status, and [since] there …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: No, Mr. Speaker. The election will be called at the appropriate time. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Oh, yes, it will.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. All right. Thank you. Do you have a supplementary ?
Ms. Kim N. Wilson I have a question, Mr. Speaker. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member. QUESTION 1 : RESPONSE TO ISLAND -WIDE WITHDRAWAL OF LABOUR CAMPAIGN
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Question: Mr. Speaker, could the Honourable Premier answer the following questions insofar as, would he agree that some of the inequities that continue to exist in our society relate to issues of immigr ation and race?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I am not sure exactl y what the Honourable Member is looking at. But there are obviously challenges within Immigration that we have talked about here. And I believe there is a motion on the agenda to discuss one of those i ssues …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Perhaps I can reword the question so that I can have an answer. In the Statement, and I quote, “No one has disputed the need to a ddress the inequit ies that continue to exist in our soc iety [today].” These are the words of the Honourable Premier. I would …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I will answer that question again, and I will give another example in regards to the motion that the Honourable Member brought to this House and my honourable colleague, the Junior Minister, amended last week about the i nequities that women face in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Premier. The Chair will now recognise the Member from constituency 18, MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a suppl ementary to the Honourable Opposition Leader’s second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. E. David Burt My supplementary is to the Ho nourable Premier: What will it take for the Honourable Premier and his Government to reconsider their pos ition, which has caused unprecedented unrest inside of this country, a withdrawal of labour that we have not seen for 35 years? What will it take for …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkl ey: Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members on that side like to amplify their comments. And I do not support those comments. I will repeat what I have said a number of times during the question period. We will continue to listen to people. We will continue …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Yes, the Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 35. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Premier, in light of your comments, can you confirm then that it is your intent, your Gover nment’s intent, to proceed with debating this issue on …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, MP Burt.
Mr. E. David Burt My second supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to make it abundantly clear, in case the Honourable Premier is [con-cerned] for whatever reason, that nobody on this side of the House would like to see any type of violence or escalation of unrest. However, the actions of the Pr …
Mr. E. David Burt Therefore, I will ask the Premier, given that he has already admitted that his Gover nment does not have the mandate of the people for this particular action, if he will consider seeking that man-date from the people if he is certain the majority of the people of this country …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Speaker, I disagree with the substance to that question. So there is no answer to give.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Premier. Honourable Members, that brings us to the close of question peri od. Our time is up. Thank you, Honourable Members. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Dr. Gibbons, the Minister of Economic Development. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Mr. Speaker, a number of Members of this House, including the Premier, some of my colleagues and certainly a numbers of the Opposition had the pleasure of attending the opening ceremony yesterday of the 130th session of the Bermuda Annual Conference for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the . . . are you standing up, MP?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo I am sorry, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member Jeff Sousa. 1440 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jeff Sousa: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, colleagues and those in the listening audience. This morning I rise to congratulate my neighbour, Rees Fletcher, on his retirement from ACE. Actually, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2, Nandi Outerbridge.
Ms. Nandi O uterbridge Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise just to send congratul ations to the graduates from the Dare2Be programme. This was a programme that was formerly known as the Community Driven Development Programme that started under the One Bermuda Alliance Government. And I would like to associate both the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 4. MP Roberts -Holshouser, you have the floor.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshous er Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser I would like for the House to recognise the achievements of two di fferent individuals. One of them is Meagan Teixiera, and the other one is Kidist “P inky” Emery. Pinky E m-ery happens to be the owner of Salon Pink, and I would like to associate . . . …
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, we are not here for speeches. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: I understand that, but no one has ever disagreed with that. I have always received full support from, whether they are Members of the Opposition, whether they are union leaders, for these people’s rights. And to have to …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, thank you, Attorney General. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 14, MP Glen Smith.
Mr. Glen Smith Thank you, and good morning, Mr. Speaker and the listening audience. I rise today to send congratulations to the A rtemis team. Last week Friday, I believe i t was, they had their official opening of their new facility in Morgan’s Point. And when the Honourable Minister from Economic Development …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? That concludes congratulatory and/or obituary speeches. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are no Bills. NOTICES OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Madam Clerk. The Chair will recognise the Honourable Mi nister of Finance. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now resume the Committee of Supply to consider the E stimates for 2016/17.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Are there any objections to that? There are none, so I would like to ask that the MP Dennis Lister please take the Chair [of Commi ttee]. House in Committee at 11:14 am [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE …
The Chairman Chairman Good morning, Members. We are now in the Committee of Supply. For our listening audience, the heads to be debated this morning are Heads 83, 6, 7, 13, 25, 45, and 88, and they fall under the Ministry of National Security Headquarters, D efence, Police. Post O ffice, Department of …
The Chairman Chairman Head 12? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Head 12. It is not listed, Mr. Chairman. It is not listed. [Crosstalk ] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Head 12 was debated in the Finance Debate so it is —?
The Chairman Chairman That should be Head 13. Hon. M ichael H. Dunkley: It is Head 13. HEAD 13 —BERMUDA POST OFFICE Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, Bermuda Post Office, Head 13. It is my pleasure to present the budget for Head 13, the BPO. The BPO is governed by the Post …
The Chairman Chairman What page? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Page B -280. Mr. Chairman, 87 per cent of the Post Office’s budget is salaries and wages. The Post Office budgeted staff numbers were reduced from 161 to 152, a reduction of nine full -time equivalents, or 5.6 per cent. This reduction is due …
The Chairman Chairman You will move on to Head 25. 1452 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I will move on to Head 25.
The Chairman Chairman Corrections? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Department of Corrections, which can be found from page B -284 to page B - 287.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. HEAD 25 —DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: It is my pleasure to pr esent Budget Head 25 for the Department of Corrections. Before I actually get there, I would be remiss if I did not thank the Postmaster General, Wayne Smith, and his team for their dedication …
The Chairman Chairman It is 12:26, Premier. Y es. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Okay. I will be going into cost centre 3506, Westgate Correctional Facility itself. So I move that we adjourn for lunch.
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Premier, I take your acknow ledgement that lunchtime is upon us. We will break for lunch now. There are approximately about 2 hours and 45 minutes left for the debate. The debate will end at 3:45 [sic]. We are currently on Head 25, and — Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: …
The Chairman Chairman This one here, this one here. The Clerk: Four forty -five.
The Chairman Chairman That’s right. 4:45. I am sorry, 4:45. Correct. And we will break for lunch now. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Premier. [Gavel] 1454 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Proceedings suspended at 12:27 pm Proceedings resumed at 1:59 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2016/17 MINISTRY OF NATIONAL SECURITY HEAD 25 —DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS [Continuation …
The Chairman Chairman The [microphones] were off, just to reiterate for those listening on the radio, we are r esuming the debate on the Ministry Head of National Security. The Premier will lead the debate and we are on Head 25, which is Corrections. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I forgot where I was …
The Chairman Chairman Well, Mr. Premier, it was yours, Mr. Premier. [Laughter] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, just to r efresh where we were—
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Mr. Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I was on Head 35060, the cost centre for Westgate Correctional Facility. 35060—Westgate Correctional Facility Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, the budget for this area in the coming financial year is set at $10,061,000, or 40 per cent of the total …
The Chairman Chairman Premier, just a minute. If everybody could just check their [microphones], the system came back on for the [microphones]. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman You can resume, Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. So at the present time there are 182 people housed throughout the various Correct ions areas: CoEd has 12; the Farm has 33; Right Living House has 10; and Westgate has 127, for a total of 182. Mr. Chairman, one …
The Chairman Chairman I would like to take this opportunity to recognise the former Premier, Dr. Saul, with us here today. He is undercover with that little bit of a mous-tache and beard, but . . . [Desk thumping] [HEAD 45 —Bermuda Fire and Rescue, continuing] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Mr. Chairman, the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier and Minister of National Security. I just wo uld like to say that this debate ends at 4:45, so we have about an hour and a half. Would anyone like to speak to the Heads? The Chair would now like to recognise the Shadow Minister of Public …
The Chairman Chairman You have about 40 minutes.
Mr. Walter H. Roban Okay. I am going to rush through most of what I have. I am going to now go on to Head 13, which is the Post Office. Madam Chairman, the Post Office which is on page B -279, has an expenditure of $10.6 million and revenues of $4.4 million. I …
Mr. Walter H. Roban But I have not heard that much about it. There are MPs who sit across the aisle for Paget, but I have not heard that much about it. Are these MPs concerned about the fact that their parish has no post office? I cannot believe, Madam Chairman, that these MPs …
Mr. Walter H. Roban Briefly because you are taking into my time. POINT OF INFORMATION Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Honourable Member will know that we hear it all but daily, so there is a challenge; we do get the concerns expressed. However, we have to deal with the situation that we have.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Member, would you like to continue?
Mr. Walter H. Roban Yes. I will move on, Madam Chairman. There seems to be a situation with the Post Office that the Government . . . I guess they are listening. They say they are listening. But when it comes t o this situation there are people who have a consider-able amount of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Shadow Minister of Public Safety. Would anyone else like to speak to the Heads? Premier, Minister of National Security. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman, and I thank the honourable colleague for his presentation and for his questions. Even though I left the Chamber for five …
Mr. Walter H. Roban Oh, sorry. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Yes, go ahead.
Mr. Walter H. Roban There was a question about the Focus funding. I do not know if you mentioned that and also . . . Focus funding and also under NDC about t he issues concerning any further work on decriminalisation, which was coming out of the Cannabis Review Committee report under NDC. I …
The Chairman Chairman All right. It has been moved that Heads 83, 6, 7, 13, 25, 45 and 88 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Ministry of National Security, Heads 6, 7, 13, 25, 45, 83, and 88 were approved and stand …
The Chairman Chairman Now we are moving on to the Tourism Ministry. Today we are having the Minister of Community, Culture and Spor t stand in for the Minister of Tourism and Transport who is out today. [Inaudible interjection]
The Chairman Chairman Not well. Minister of Community and Cultural Affairs. Honourable Members, we are now in Commi ttee of Supply for further consideration of the E stimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year. Head 48 will now be debated. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have …
The Chairman Chairman So it is 4:25 . . . four hours — Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: And we have a four-hour debate, so it is scheduled to finish—
The Chairman Chairman —so 8:25. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: —at 8:25. Thank you, Madam Chairman. HEAD 48 —BERMUDA TOURISM AUTHORITY Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Madam Chai rman, let me first start by saying that I am standing in, deputising, for the Mini ster responsible for Tourism Development and Transport the Honourable …
The Chairman Chairman Take your time, Minister. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you. My apologies, Mr. Chairman. HR Compensation Committee: The Commi ttee will review best practices within destination marketing organisations (DMO’s) to ensure that the BTA’s compensation and benefit packages are competitive with other similar DMO’s. Additionally, the Committee will periodically …
The Chairman Chairman It is nice to see some bipartisan c ooperation taking place here between the Opposition Whip and the Minister. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Always, Mr. Chairman, always. There is always cooperation here. Additionally, the Committee will periodically conduct compensation surveys to align employee compensation with other DMO’s who have …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, thank you, Acting Minister for Tourism Minister Ms. Patricia Gordon- Pamplin of constituency 23. The Chair now recognises the Shadow Mini ster for Tourism and Transport Mr. Jamahl Simmons.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr . Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to congratulate the Minister for staying on her feet for so long and filling in for the substantive Minister. I do not intend to keep her in her chair as long as she kept me. Mr. Chairman, first, I would …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Point of order, Mr. Chai rman.
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Shadow Minister. You have a point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons The Honourable Minister must have missed the point of what I was saying, just to clarify for her, I am criticising the 49- year low in air arrivals and the poor, poor performance on all those jobs because most of those they have listed are not permanent jobs. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Shadow Minister. The Chair now recognises the Acting Minister, once again. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I believe that the Honourable Member needs to listen to his own words. He says there have been no jobs created in tourism, there have been …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Point of order, Mr. Chai rman. The Honourable Member —
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Shadow Minister. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons The Honourable Member is misleading the House. Numerous Members of the Opposition have repeatedly said that we want to see these projec ts succeed, which is why we want people to be held accountable for a 49- year low in air arrivals. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 1494 11 March 2016 …
The Chairman Chairman Head 48. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin : Sorry, Head 48 of the Ministry of Tourism Development and Transport.
The Chairman Chairman Members — Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Bermuda Tourism Authority.
The Chairman Chairman Members, the Minister, acting on behalf of the substantive Minister, has sought t o have Head 48 of the Ministry of Tourism Development and Transport approved. Are there any objections? No objections. Approved. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Ministry of Tourism Development and Transport, (Bermuda Tourism Authority) Head 48, was approved …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. The Chair now recognises the Minister of F inance, the Honourable Bob Richards. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Chai rman. I move that the House rise and report pr ogress and to resume on Monday next, [14 March 2016].
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister for Finance. It has been moved, Members, that the Committee rise report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there an y objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. Bermuda House of Assembly [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Members, for concluding the National Security and Tourism Heads. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: —with your indulgence, if we could just switch the order of the next two matters we are going to take, if I can take the Government Loans Amendment now?
The Speaker The Speaker One second, Member. Okay, now what did you want to do, sir? Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: The Government Loans Amendment Act, switching [Orders No.] 6 and 7, the order.
The Speaker The Speaker So you —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member A switch in the order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You are switching the order of 6 and 7?
The Speaker The Speaker Is that all right? Does the Opposition have any problem with that? Fine. Okay. But we have . . . [Order No.] 3 first. So that we would do Order No. 3 . . . are we not doing that?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Carried over.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, that is carried over, okay. So [Order] No. 1 is carried over, [Order No.] 3 is carried over, Order No. 4 is carried over, Order No. 5 is carried over, and then we will do Order No. 7 and then Order No. 6. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Correct.
The Speaker The Speaker Then the Chair will recogni se the Mini ster of Finance. BILL SECOND READING GOVERNMENT LOANS AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to now ask the Honourable House to give consideration to the Bill entitled the Government Loans Amendment Act …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 18, the Shadow Minister of Finance, MP David Burt. You have the floor.
Mr. E. David Burt Good e vening, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker, the only question that I have for the Minister is that the Minister has r epeatedly said that the Government has identified properties that are excess to requirements, yet we have not yet heard about these properties that are surplus to requirements. So one would hope that the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Learned Member from constituency 36, MP Michael Scott. You have the floor. Hon. Michael J. Scott: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just want to reinforce what the Shadow Finance Minister has asked. I …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you, MP Scott. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 35, MP Dennis Lister. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Mr. S peaker. Mr. Speaker, I am getting on my feet to r espond based on the comments that the Minister made in his …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any other Honourable Members who care to speak? Then, Minister, you have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To answer the last speaker’s question first, in Government all cash transactions go into the Consol idated Fund by default. What we are trying to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. It has been moved that the Bill be committed. Any objections to that? Then I would ask the Deputy Speaker to please take the Chair [of Committee]. [Pause] House in Committee at 6:23 pm COMMITTEE ON BILL [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] GOVERNMENT LOANS AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of the Whole House for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Government Loan Amendment Act 2016 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. This Bill, the …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections to moving the three clauses? No. Please proceed. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Clause 1 provides the citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends the Government Loans Act 1978 in section 12(2) to insert a new paragraph (c) to provide for an …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18. You have the floor.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, there is a just a little bit of confusion on my side. And the confusion comes from . . . it seems as though . . . I am hopeful the Minister can explain, because when we were . . . I …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I mean, the Honourable Member has a point, but the answer to the question is that the flow through of the money, the proceeds, has not been anticipated to go to the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: It does not show up, I agree with that.
The Chairman Chairman Just a minute. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you, Madam Chairman. I will be quick, I guess. But I guess the challenge that I have is the fact that the estimates are then not correct. Because if you are going to sell the $3 million and you are going to tell us that the Gover nment policy …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, if the funds were transferred into the Sinking Fund it would reduce . . . it would be like an expense to the Go vernment. So that expense has not been shown. But we cannot …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there an y other Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 17. You have the floor.
Mr. Walton Brown Thank you, Madam Chairman. Can the Minister confirm whether or not the Admiralty House Park is on the list to be sold?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I do not think so, but I am not sure. I do not think so.
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Minister, can you confirm whether the amount that is indicated in the Budget Book that will be rea lised …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: First, I would like to e mphasise that the $3.5 million is an “estimate” of what the proceeds could be. All right? That is the first thing. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Okay, I thought it …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I am not going to belabour the point. I just want to make sure that we are clear that the Minister is estimating revenue to come to the Government but is not estimating the expenses of transferring that money to the Sinking …
The Chairman Chairman When you say “here” for the people who cannot see what you are pointing to—
Mr. E. David Burt Inside of the Budget Book.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises . . . Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? No. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, I would like to move clauses 1 through 3.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Madam Chairman, I would like to move the Preamble please.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: I would like to move that the Bill be reported to the House.
The Chairman Chairman It ha s been moved that the Bill be reported to the House— Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: As printed. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: As printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Government Loans Amendment Act 2016 was considered …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Members. The Government Loans Amendment Act 2016 has been approved. We move now to Order No. 6 in the name of the Premier. Premier Dunkley, you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good evening to you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening. BILL SECOND READING REFERENDUM (SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS) ACT 2016 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I move that the Bill entitled the Referendum (Same Sex Relationships) Act 2016 be now read the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Any objections to that? Please carry on, Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, and Honourable Members of this House, I rise this evening to introduce the Bill entitled the Referendum (Same Sex Relationships) Act 2016. The Bill seeks to require that a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Premier. The Chair will now recognise the Honour able Leader of the Opposition from constituency 26, MP Marc Bean. You have the floor. Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good evening to you and good evening to honourable colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I stand …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 2, MP Nandi Outerbridge. You have the floor.
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wanted to speak this evening on this Bill. I do not believe that the Referendum Act is the Bill for us to be expressing where we stand on either side. I believe it is a discussi on around having a referendum. And, you …
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge And, you know, we have consulted with the people every step of the way. We have had Ministers and . . . are you finished? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Members, speak to the Chair.
Ms. N andi Outerbridge We have had Ministers that have put in hard work through their ministries to be able to get information on civil unions and same- sex marriages and the impacts they will have. The impacts they have had around the world. And we have had town halls and information sessions, and …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Yes, Ho nourable Member. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Marc A. R. Bean: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. When we were in Government, Mr. Speaker, same- sex marriage was not a topic of discussion. Maybe she forgets. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Point of …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. A Member from his party who was a Minister at the time brought a Priva te Members’ Bill to discuss the issue of same- sex ma rriage. That was the former Member of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member.
Ms. Nandi Outerbridge But before I take my seat, Mr. Speaker, what I will say is that the referendum is a result of a listening and a caring Government, and this is a Government that cares about our people. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Just before I take the next speaker I will take the opportunity to recognise a former Member of Par-liament, Arthur Pitcher, who is in the Gallery. [Debate on Same Sex Relationship Referendum, co ntinuing]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Learned Member from constituency 34, MP Wilson. You have the floor.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, whether I am personally and/or my constituents are supporting or opposing the referendum, at this point is neither here or there. The ques tion that I do have is with respect to the fact that we have two questions that some may argue could …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 8, the Government Whip. You have the floor.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have attended a number of public meetings on this topic. I have also attended a number of private meetings on this topic. And one pamphlet came out and it was issued by “Preserve Marriage Bermuda,” Mr. Speaker, and a statement in that pamphlet …
The Speaker The Speaker Carry on.
Mr. N. H. Cole Simons Basically it says, same -sex civil unions will redefine marriage. It says the redefin ition of marriage results in a reordering of society, r estructuring the family unit, and a radical cultural change. Everybody knows, Mr. Speaker, the family is the cornerstone for our society. You get the family right, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 17. MP Walton Brown, you have the floor.
Mr. Wa lton Brown Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good evening, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, how ironic is it that today of all days we will debate and, presumably, pass this Referendum Bill when we have had a series of arduous events about the necessity of this proces s for deciding a very controversial issue. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable and Learned Member, from constituency 25, Warwic k North East. The Learned Member, MP Pettingill, you have the floor.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much. As the Honourable Member who just took his seat, he is a learned guy, too . . . but he and I are of-ten ad idem on many things. And I know on this human rights issue, he and I are ad …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member We will move you around.
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill I will be at the Speaker’s corner. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Mark J. Pettingill Mr. Speaker, I do not know if you have a corner, b ut you should. But I will be there, right? I will just put up my box. I will do it in London. We should have one here. I will go wherever it takes. I will be there. I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 16, Pembroke East Ce ntral, the Shadow Minister for Health and Communi ty and Sports. MP Weeks, you have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too am in strong support of this referendum. I remember a couple of years ago when we had the Human Rights Amendment, the two words and a comma. Some of us talked about our being in this place at this time talking about same- sex …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 7, Junior Minister for Home Affairs. Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am in support of having this referendum . I have made my position known publicly on this issue. …
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute, Honourable Member. Can I ask Members, all Members who are in their seats , when you are talking, talk in undertones please. I hear clearly what you are saying. So just speak in an undertone so I will not hear you at all. Carry on. Mr. Sylvan …
Mr. Walton Brown Point of clarification.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member? Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: I will yield.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 17. POINT OF CLARIFICATION
Mr. Walton Brown This point of clarification is for the edification of the listening public. The courts do not pass law, as the Member suggested. The courts interpret the law.
The Speaker The Speaker That is right. Laws are passed here. [Inaudible interjection] Mr. Sylvan D. Richards, Jr.: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Member has a view on this, and he made it. But the bottom line is this, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased that we are having a referendum on this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Deputy Speaker.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad to have the opportunity to actually stand to my feet to speak to the Bill in front of us, the Referendum (Same- Sex Relationships) Act 2016. It kind of reminded me this morning of a hot potato. Mr. Speaker, I do not know …
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute. Members are still speaking too loud. [Pause]
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You are not speaking across the House, but you are speaking too loud. Let us speak . . . The Standing Orders —if I need to read them —say that if you are going to speak you should speak in an undertone —undertones. Everyb ody understands what that is.
Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Then the next referendum, which was the hot topic, that hot potato, was in 1995. And we already heard reference of that, and that was on the independence for Bermuda. A gain, still a small turnout, in my opinion. That was 58.76 per cent of registered …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 20, Pembroke [South] West. MP Susan Jackson, you have the floor.
Mrs. Susan E. Jackson Good evening, Mr. Speaker. I was perfectly happy, to be honest with y ou, to let this be one of the matters that the judicial sy stem took care of and took responsibility for, because it seemed to me that they are a part of our legislature, and now is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Mi nister of Finance. Minister Bob Richards, you have the floor. Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thought I would like to make a contribution here. I was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Are there any other Honourable Members who would care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Minister. Minister Patricia Gordon- Pamplin, Minister for Community, Cu lture and Sports, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Mr . Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as the Minister responsible …
The Speaker The Speaker Just a minute, Honourable Minister. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Sure.
The Speaker The Speaker I want to say to people sitting in the Gallery that you make no kind of response to anything that anyone says. Otherwise, I will ask you to leave the House, the Chamber. You sit, and you watch, and you listen to who is speaking. Otherwise, leave. Carry on. Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 18, MP David Burt, the Shadow Minister of Finance.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the first item that rise on is pursuant to Standing Order 27(2). Standing Order 27(2) reads as follows, if I may: “As soon as possible after the receipt of a Bill the Clerk shall circulate a copy to every Member. Every Bill …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable and Learned Member, the Attorney General. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just on a point of order, really. I know that Honourable Member was mixing up …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Thank you, Attorney General. Thank you. 1518 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Would any other Honourable Member care to speak? Then, Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank honourable colleagues for their contr ibutions in this debate. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Are there any objections to that?
Mr. E. David Burt I object, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. E. David Burt I object on the grounds of Standing Order 27(2), that there is no financial memorandum attached to the Bill.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Honourable Member, I do realise that from what I have been made to understand, the matter is in the Budget. The matter is in the Budget.
Mr. E. David Burt Mr. Speaker.
Mr. E. David Burt Whether or not it is in the budget or not, the Standing Orders specifically state that if any Bill requires expenditure then it has to have a f inancial memorandum indicating the estimated annual recurrent cost and any capital cost. Additionally, Mr. Speaker, the Government decided on a referendum after …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Member. Honourable Member, did you want to speak? Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Just to clarify, during that Non- Ministry Head debate on Wednesday, I clearly explained where the funding would come from in the line item for by -elections and general elections. The …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. It was. So, I think, Honourable Member, I move that we continue. Yes. So therefore, we will go into Committee. The Deputy can take the Chair [of Committee]. [Pause] House in Committee at 8:33 pm [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL REFERENDUM (SAME- SEX RELATIONSHIPS) ACT …
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee of the whole House for further consideration of the Bill entitled Referendum (Same- Sex Relationships) Act 2016. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister —in this particular case, Premi er—you have the floor. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. …
The Chairman Chairman It has been proposed that we move clauses 1 through 4. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Please proceed. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. The Bill requires that a referendum be held on the questions set out in clause 3. It also seeks to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. Are there any Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 17.
Mr. Walton Brown Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, the Premier has not answered the question whether or not . . . well, he did say it is not a binding referendum (sorry). So my ques-tion is, why go through the exercise with these questions if it is not binding on the Government? …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister of Comm unity, Culture and Sports. The Honourable P. J. Gordon- Pamplin, you have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I just wish to respond, because I am the substantive Minister responsible for Human Rights, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member from constituency 17.
Mr. Walton Brown Madam Chairman, I am even more confused. So if the intent is to determine . . . If the courts are requiring that there be a legal position with regard to same- sex marriage or civil unions, the referendum is meant to give the public the right to come to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises Minister GordonPamplin. You have the floor. 1520 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. If that were to happen, then we will obviously have to assess the situation at that point in time.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 17.
Mr. Walton Brown Madam Chairman, I really hate to belabour the point. But it is just bringing to relief the absurdity of the process that we are currently e ngaged in. Because what the Government is intimating . . . well, you are elected to lead, as you say. You are leading on …
Mr. Walton Brown And he said that —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He has a heart. [Laughter]
Mr. Walton Brown Well, there must be a heart somewhere in there, Madam. I saw a little bit of it t onight. [Laughter]
Mr. Walton Brown But he spoke about the tyranny of the majority. So they have a process now which may well lead to that. It will put the Government completely at odds with the judge’s ruling. So w hy are we here? It is an expensive exercise, when you do not have money. …
Mr. Walton Brown You do not need to spend half a million dollars. If all you are going to do is find out what they — [Gavel]
The Chairman Chairman Member, I will ask you to have a seat so that the i ndividual in front of you can determine whether he wants to finish his conversation or not, so I can hear you. Thank you. Please proceed.
Mr. Walton Brown Thank you, Madam Chairman. So I am just confused. If the public say no, you are going to pass legislation anyway, presumably. If the public say yes, you are going to pass the legisl ation anyway. What am I missing? Why are we spending the money? Why do we go …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 34, the Learned Member. Ms. K. N. Wilson, you have the floor.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am a little bit perplexed, actually, as well, because I too have absorbed the Oliari case, and I do recognise the obligations that we have with respect to establishing a framework. However, as the Minister just alluded to we are trying to test the margin …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? The Chair recognises the Member from co nstituency 34.
Ms. Kim N. Wilson Thank you. And another question. Bearing in mind that the Honourable Premier has gone on record indicating that the Government is not in favour of same- sex marriage, what happens if the first question of the referendum comes back with over 51 per cent voting yes? Bermuda House of Assembly
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister from constituency 23. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Again, we will assess our position at that time. I do not know that there is mu ch that I can share, that I can offer at this point.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 17.
Mr. Walton Brown Thank you, Madam Chairman. So, for the sake of clarity, irrespective of the outcome of this referendum, is it the Government’s position that it will proceed with same- sex or civil u nion legislation, irrespective of the outcome?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? The Chair recognises the Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. The Honourable Member asked a question a couple of minutes ago (I think it was the Honourable …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 35. Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Madam Chai rman. Minister, in light of the fact that you have a sample (my word) legislation of what civil unions could look like, as a Bill, in the event that the referendum …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises Minister GordonPamplin. You have the floor. Hon. Patricia J. Gordon -Pamplin: Yes. I was ask ed the exact same question, and I said that we will assess it at that point in time.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18, Mr. E. G. Bu rt. You have the floor.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, during the general debate, the Honourable Premier did not answer one question. The Honourable Member from constituency 17 asked it again, and the Honourable P remier has not a nswered. And I am going to ask the question again, which I asked …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? The Chair recognises the Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. We are now in Committee. So that is a question that is not appropriate for Committee. And I will …
Mr. E. David Burt You did not answer it before! Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Honourable Member . . . certainly I talke d to the Honourable Member after that, because I have answered that question before. The Honourable Member needs to retain some information. So having said that, I move that all these …
Mr. E. David Burt I object, Madam Chairman. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: We are in Committee right now.
Mr. E. David Burt That is perfectly fine. And in Committee— 1522 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, the Preamble says where it is expedient to hold a referendum. Therefore, I am asking, What is the Government’s position on the di fference between the two classes of people? Why is it expedient to hold a referendum in this case, expedient …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Madam Chairman, the issue that he refers to is one that we all agree that there has to be comprehensive immigration reform. That is not an easy question to put to a referendum, even if the greatest minds …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Please proceed. The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 18.
Mr. E. David Burt I thank the Honourable Premier for his answer. The challenge is, however, that what the Government is now proposing is not comprehensive. There is a very simple question, and in the exact same way that the Government has posted a Bill for a draft and basically gone to the people …
The Chairman Chairman But, Member, we—
Mr. E. David Burt I got you. But what I am saying is—
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members I got you! [Inaudible interjec tions and laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I got you, Madam Chairman. [Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I got you.
Mr. E. David Burt The Premier is saying that it is comprehensive when it is not. So if he can at least share the difference between the two classes of people, then that would probably be helpful for those persons who are listening very carefully, who do not actually understand what is the difference …
The Chairman Chairman But, Member, you do recognise the fact that the Bill before us is called Referendum (Same -Sex Relationships) Act 2016. So that is the topic that we are discussing within the Bill. Thank you. The Chair recognises the Premier . . . the Chair recognises the Attorney General, from constit …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much. Are there any other Members who would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? The Chair recognises the Premier. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Madam Chairman. If there are no more questions?
The Chairman Chairman No. Please proceed. Hon. Mi chael H. Dunkley: I would like to move all of the clauses, 1 through 4, and move the Preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 4 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 4 passed.] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you. I move that the Bill— Bermuda House of Assembly
The Chairman Chairman The Preamble. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I just —
The Chairman Chairman I have to do it separately. Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Okay. I move the Preamble. The Ch airman: It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: I move that the Bill be now …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Referendum (Same- Sex Rel ationships) Act 2016 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.] [Pause] House resumed at …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Honourable Members. The Second Reading of the Referendum (Same- Sex Relatio nships) Act 2016 has been approved. We now move to Order No. 8, which is in the name of the Minister of Economic Development. Dr. Grant Gibbons, you have the floor. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? Carry on, please. BILL SECOND READING CONTRACTS (RIGHTS OF THIRD PARTIES) ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank yo u, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased this evening to present to this Honourable House the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 2016. This …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much, Dr. Gibbons. The Chair will now recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 33, MP Jamahl Simmons the Shadow Minister for Economic Development.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, w e will be supporting this legi slation. We recognise the need for Bermuda to become as adaptive as possible when it comes to attracting new business and growing the asset management industry in Bermuda is a worthy, worthy cause for us to pursue. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much. Any other Ho nourable Member care to speak? Bermuda House of Assembly Dr. Gibbons? Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Honourable Member for his co mments and his support. Mr. Speaker, I would as k that the Bill be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. It has been moved that the Bill be committed. Any objections to that? Deputy Speaker, would you please take the Chair [of Committee]. House in Committee at 9:03 pm [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL CONTRACTS (RIGHTS OF THIRD PARTIES) ACT 2016
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consider ation of the Bill entitled Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 2016 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any objections? There are no objections. Please continue. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: I move clauses 1 through 13.
The Chairman Chairman Please proceed. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you. Madam Chairman, clause 1 provides the Bill which should be cited as the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 2016. Clause 2 is the interpretation. Clause 2 provides definitions to aid in the interpretation of the pr oposed Act. Clause …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 13? There are no Members. Minister, please proceed. Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I am moving clauses 1 through 13.
The Chairman Chairman It has moved th at clauses 1 through 13 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 13 passed.] Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Madam Chairman, I move the Preamble. Bermuda House of Assembly
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Madam Chairman, I move the Bill be reported to the House.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 2016 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.] House …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the second reading of the Contracts (Rights of Third Par ties) Act 2016 has been approved. We now move to Order No. 9 in the name of the Minister of Health, Seniors and the Environment, the Health Insurance Amendment Act 2016. The Chair will recognise the Minister. Hon. Jeanne …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? Carry on. BILL SECOND READING HEALTH INSURANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, it is with pleasure that I bring to this Honourable House today the Health Insurance Amendment Act 2016. It brings me genuine pleasure because it is the first time in many years …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 16, Shadow Minister of Health, Comm unity and Sports, MP Weeks. You have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Generally, I agree with the changes in the amendments to this Bill. I do have one question through, Mr. Speaker, and the Minister and I have talked, but she can clarify more. My only issue, Mr. Speaker, is that in [clause] 5 (a)(i) and (ii) which …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, we can do that. We can do that when we go into Committee.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Generally, I do agree— .
The Speaker The Speaker When we go into Committee—
Mr. Michael A. Weeks —with the Bill then. Then we can discuss it.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Yes, so generally, there is nothing else to report and I agree with it.
The Speaker The Speaker Fine. Thank you. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? Then, Minister, please— 1530 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I move clauses 1 through 3.
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, you have to move to commit — Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, I move that the Bill be committed. Sorry, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? There are none. Deputy Speaker, please take the Chair [of Committee]. House in Committee at 9:30 pm [Mrs. Suzann Roberts -Holshouser, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL HEALTH INSURANCE AMENDMENT ACT 2016
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committe e of whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Health Insurance Amendment Act 2016. I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move clauses …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that we move clauses 1 through 3. Any objections to that motion? No obj ections. Please proceed. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: This Bill seeks to amend the Health Insurance Act 1970, the Health Insurance (Standard Health Benefit) Regulations 1971, and the Health Insurance (Mutual Re- Insurance …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? The Chair recognises the Member fr om co nstituency 16, Mr. M. A. Weeks. You have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman. I agree with these three amendments, but I am just curious on one thing. Minister, this does not affect overseas st udents who are in university, c orrect? As it stands now, students overseas at university, they are covered to the age of 26. So …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: The way that t he Act was set up it does not deal with children overseas. The only change was that . . . originally it was just up to age 18 and then if you went to school …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks I probably did not say it correctly, but mos t of us . . . we all have had children overseas. My children who left Bermuda and went to university remained on my insurance until they turned 26. So what I am asking clearly does this — [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Michael A. Weeks The insurance that I had. But now, it may be clear now, Honourable Minister, because I did have an insurance different from GHI prior to becoming an MP. So I think that probably clears it up. As it stands, GHI does not insure a student over-seas after the age of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I think, Madam Chairman, what I need to clarify is that the Standard Health Benefit, which is what we are talking about here, deals with coverage for services which an individual child or their parents could avail themselves of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 1 through 3? There are no other Members. Minister? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden : I move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, please proceed. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Madam Chairman, I would like to now move clauses 4 through 7 which is concerning the MRF and the effective date.
The Chairman Chairman Member, I do believe that I heard that you might be making an amendment to clause 5. Is that what you are planning to do my moving that? Are there any objections to moving clauses 4 through 7? No? Minister, please proceed. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Clause 4 amends section …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 7? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16. You have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman, and I think you were right. I would like to see an amendment, but I will try to convince the Minister. The only issue I have is in clause 5, Madam Chairman. In [clause] 5 (I think it is 39; I am not too sure …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Madam Chairman, as I indicated initially to the Shadow Minister and I appr eciate him raising the question again because he wanted to make sure that I heard him and I wanted to make sure that —not just …
Mr. Michael A. Weeks So for clarity, Madam Chai rman . . . Madam Minister, are you saying that the Bermuda Health Council canvassed all the medical services in Bermuda and, as such, no other medical service can provide the cardiac rhythm monitoring device or ultrasound screening for peripheral artery disease? I kind of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 7? The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I think, Madam Chairman, perhaps I should clarify this. It is not like the Health Council is out there saying, We really need to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. The Chair recogni ses the Member from constituency 16.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman. I am going to try and explain this in a different way because I am not suggesting that we add any other benefit. I am not suggesting that we add any other service. I am simply saying that of these four services that we have …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. [Pause] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am just looking. I need to clarify something here. [Pause] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I think the point I need to clarify is the fact that the Bermuda Health Council . . . its aim is …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 7? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman. I am going t o say it one more time in a different way. Dr. Weeks has a medical practise and Dr. Weeks’ medical practise has the ability to provide an ambulatory cardiac rhythm monitoring device. Also say that Dr. Weeks has the ability to …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I am just looking at the—
The Chairman Chairman Take your time and then put your m icrophone on please, but take your time. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry. To answer future Dr. Weeks’ question, you actually could apply to the service. Let us put it right now. The service is in place and BHB is the one that can provide it. If over time, in the next year …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 7? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16. You have the floor.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman. I am not going to beat this horse any longer. I am simply saying that as a qualified provider and, again, Dr. Weeks’ business and Ms. Pamplin comes into my business and I have the ability to provide the service that she needs. As this …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I can only try to say it in different ways in t he sense that as it stands right now with respect to standard health benefit and what is covered, okay, I think that the point . . …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 7? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman. So for clarity then, the standard health benefit is not a benefit that is provided to all medical practiti oners in Bermuda.
The Chairman Chairman To hear the answer to that the Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I think we need to clarify that the standard health benefits are a stack of services that (if you will) we say are all covered under what we call the standard package. I will remind …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 7? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thank you, Madam Chai rman, and thank you, Madam Minister for that explan ation. But for clarity, I am not asking about ever ything that is under the standard health benefit. I was particularly asking about these particular services. Does the standard health benefit cover for a private medical doctor …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. The Chair recognises the Minister. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: As I indicated, these four additional services are covered in this way. The ambulatory cardiac rhythm monitoring device is covered provided it is put in by the Hospitals Board. The du-plex ultrasound screening for peripheral artery di sease …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 7? The Chair recognises the Member from constituency 16.
Mr. Michael A. Weeks Thanks, Madam Chairman. The standard health benefit indicates that these particular services are only provided by the Bermuda Hospitals Board regardless of whether or not (if I am understanding it correctly) regardless of whether or not a private medical practise can provide the service. Who sets the standard health benefit …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members that would like to speak to clauses 4 through 7? There are no other Members. Minister? Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Sorry, Madam Chairman. I would like to move that clauses 4 through 7—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Turn your microphone on. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I would like to move that clauses 4 through 7 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. It has been moved that clauses 4 through 7 be approved as printed. Any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: Clauses 7 through 7 passed.] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Madam Chairman, I would like to move the Preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: I would like t o move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? No objections. Agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Health Insur ance Amendment Act 2016 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.] [Pause] House …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Members. The second reading of the Health Insurance Amendment Act 2016 has been approved. We move now to Order No. 10 which is carried over, Order No. 11 is carried over. Order No. 12 is carried over. All the Government —carried over?
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member Burt?
Mr. E. David Burt Carried over.
The Speaker The Speaker So all the motions are carried over? Then, the Chair will recognise first the Honourable Minister for National Security. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that [Standing Order] 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? Carry on. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] 1536 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly BILL THIRD READING REFERENDUM (SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS) ACT 2016 Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: The Referendum (Same Sex Relationships) Act 2016—I move that the Bill do …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? The Bill is passed. [Motion carried: The Referendum (Same Sex Rel ationships) Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Finance? SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that [Standing Order] 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Government Loans Amendment Act 2016 be read a third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? Carry on. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING GOVERNMENT LOANS AMENDMENT ACT 2016 Hon. E. T. (Bob) Richards: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill do pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any objections? The Bill is passed. [Motion carried: The Government Loans Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Minister for Economic Development. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that [Standing Order] 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill ent itled Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. Minister? [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING CONTRACTS (RIGHTS OF THIRD PARTIES) ACT 2016 Dr. the Hon. E. Grant Gibbons: Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 2016—I move that the Bill do now pass.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? The Bill is passed. [Motion carried: Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Minister for Health and Seniors. Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: And the Environment.
The Speaker The Speaker And the Environment . SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Jeanne J. Atherden: Mr. Speaker, I move that [Standing Order] 21 be suspended to enable me to move that the Bill entitled The Health Insurance Amendment Act 2016 be now read a third time by its title only. The Spe …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? The Bill is passed. Thank you. [Motion carried: Health Insurance Amendment Act 2016 was read a third time and passed.] Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Honourable Premier? ADJOURNMENT Hon. Michael H. Dunkley: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that we now adjourn to Monday, March 14th.
The Speaker The Speaker The Chair will recognise the Honourable Member from constituency 35, MP Dennis Lister. IMMIGRATION REFORM POLICIES Hon. Dennis P. Lister: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not intend to be on my feet long at this moment —just to take a few moments, though, Mr. Speaker, to bring …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member care to speak? The Chair will recognise the Honourable A ttorney General. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not intend to be long either. I just intend to set the facts right here. We on this side take …
Mr. E. David Burt Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Honourable Member.
Mr. E. David Burt The Honourable Member is clearly previewing a debate that the Government says they are going to have on Monday. I think that we should stick to the thing and not foreshadow a debate that is to come. He is going to specifics of the Bill. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Trevor G. Moniz: What we are concerned about at this point of time is that there is a concerted and misplaced political effort to attempt to derail this Government. Today, as most people may now know, we had to go to court —the Attorney General’s Chambers representing …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. The House is adjourned to Monday the 14 th of March. [Gavel] [At 10:18 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Monday, 14 March 2016.] 1540 11 March 2016 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [This page intentionally left blank ]
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