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House of Assembly Session 2024/2025 649 speeches

March 21, 2025

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This was primarily a session for government ministers to present reports and announcements rather than debate legislation. The Premier delivered a concerning update on government pension funds, revealing that the main public pension fund could run out of money by 2042 without changes. Several ministers announced modernization efforts, including digitizing transport services and hiring more lifeguards. The government also reached agreement with six public sector unions on salary increases to help workers cope with rising costs.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 21, 2025
Session 2024/2025
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Speakers 32
Speeches 649

Key Topics

Government pension fund reviews showing financial challenges aheadDigital transformation of Transport Control Department servicesPublic sector salary increases for government workers and unionsNew lifeguard staffing initiatives for beach safetyChanges to employment laws affecting workers who receive tips and gratuities

Bills & Motions

Employment Amendment Act 2025 - introduced to clarify how paid leave is calculated for workers receiving tips and service charges
Various government reports and orders tabled for information, including pension fund reviews and transport regulations
No votes or significant legislative debates occurred in this sitting

Notable Moments

Premier warned that Bermuda's main pension fund faces a funding crisis and may be exhausted by 2042, requiring difficult decisions on contributions, benefits, or retirement age
Transport Minister announced Heritage Month 2025 theme "The Future is Now" encouraging creative blend of tradition and technology for Bermuda Day celebrations
Cabinet Office Minister revealed salary increases for public workers after decade of pay freezes, acknowledging government austerity measures had left wages behind inflation

Debate Transcript

649 speeches from 32 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. The Clerk will lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [ Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner , Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Thank you. Members, the session has now begun. [ Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 14 March 2025]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of the 14th of March have been circulated. Are there any amendments required? None. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [ Minutes of 14 March 2025 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGY
The Speaker The Speaker We have been informed that Minister Tinee Furbert will be absent from today’s proceedings. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker We have quite a few this morning. The first is in the name of the Premier. Premier. TAX REFORM COMMISSION (EXTENSION AND OPERATION) ORDER 2025 Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you like to do the next ones? ACTUARIAL REVIEW OF THE CONTRIBUTORY PENSION FUND OF BERMUDA AS OF AUGUST 1, 2023 PUBLIC SERVICE SUPERANNUATION FUND— ACTUARIAL VALUATION AS AT MARCH 31, 2023 , FOR FUNDING PURPOSES MINISTERS AND MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE PENSION FUND— ACTUARIAL VALUATION AS …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next communication is from the Junior Minister. Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. 16 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF THE CONSOLIDATED FUND FOR THE YEAR ENDED MARCH 31, 2024 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Financial Statements …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister. Tourism and Transport. Hon. Owen Darrell: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. MOTOR TAXI (APPROVED TAXI MET ER) (CABMAN MDT) ORDER 2025 Hon. Owen Darrell: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Motor Taxi (Approved Taxi Meter) (Cabman MDT) Order 2025 as made by the Minister responsible for Transport …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. You can do the second one. Then I have to go to the Minister of Economy and Labour. MOTOR TAXI (APPROVED TAXI METER) (CURB DIGITAL METER) ORDER 2025 Hon. Owen Darrell: I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. The Minister of Labour, Economy and Labour , Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION (PROHIBITION OF ENTRY) ORDER 2025 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Bermuda Immi-gration and Protection (Prohibition of Entry) Order 2025 , as made by the Minister responsible …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. We now move on. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have quite a few Statements this morning. The first Statement will be by the Premier, which is actually listed as the second item. But the Premier will do that, because the first item was going to be by the Junior Minister. Premier. ACTUARIAL REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT’S PENSION PLANS 2023 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next Statement this morning is from the Junior Minister of Finance. CONSOLIDATED FUND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS 2024 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker , I rise today to advise Honourable Members of the completion of the audit of the Consolidated Fund Financial Statements for the year ended March …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Tourism, Transport and Culture. Minister. HERITAGE MONTH THEME 2025 Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I stand with great anticipation and pride to announce the theme …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Would you like to do your second Statement? Hon. Owen Darrell: I will.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. TRANSPORT CONTROL DEPARTMENT ADVANCEMENT OF DIGITALISATION Hon. Owen Darrell: Mr. Speaker, today I stand before this esteemed House to share an exciting and transformative development within the Transport Control Department (TCD) that will redefine how we interact with government services. As technology continues to evolve and reshape …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. I now call on the Minister of Labour. You have papers . . . Yes, the Minister of National Security will do his later. EMPLOYMENT AMENDMENT ACT 2025 Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am pleased to introduce in the Honourable House today a …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister, you do have another paper, correct? Yes? Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay, continue. BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION (PROHIBITION OF ENTRY) ORDER—BERMUDA’S VISA CONTROLLED NATIONALS LIST UPDATES Hon. Jason Hayward: Madam Deputy Speaker , I rise before this Honou rable House to provide updates to the Bermuda Immigration and Protection (Prohibition of Entry) Order —Bermuda’s Visa Controlled Nationals List. Madam Deputy Speaker …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. I call on the Minister of Public Works. PROTECTING OUR SHORES: ENHANCING LIFEGUARD COVERAGE FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL Hon. Jache Adams: Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, as we usher in a new administration, I rise today to address a matter that is both …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. I call on the Minister for Cabinet Office. SALARY UPLIFT FOR PUBLIC OFFICERS Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Good morning, Madam Deputy Speaker. It is a pleasure to be here this morn-ing, especially with the Statement I am about to read today. Madam Deputy Speaker , I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of National Security. And, Minister, before you get started, just let me ask for the indulgence of the House. The Minister has one Statement on the Order Paper this morning. He has asked for …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. NATIONAL FIRE CHIEFS COUNCIL PEER -LED REVIEW OF THE BERMUDA FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues and listening audience. Mr. Speaker , I rise today to provide this Honourable House with an update on a key strategic initiative of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister, would you like to proceed with that second Statement? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, Mr. Speaker, and thank you for your indulgence.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. RECENT YOUTH VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, there are videos circulating in Bermuda showing students from our schools, particularly Cedar Bridge, and including middle school students, engaging in violent and disturbing conduct toward each other. This Government is not taking this lightly. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, there is one other further indulgence that I have shared with the Whips, that the Premier has an additional Statement that he would like to do. Premier. REMUNERATION OF MEMBERS AND OFFICERS OF THE LEGISLATURE Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I …
The Speaker The Speaker We are now at the Question Period. I will note the time and the fact that we will have 60 minutes per normal. The clock will start with the first question being put. The first question this morning, Premier, is from your earlier Statement. MP DeCouto would like to put …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As these are my first words in this Chamber, I hope you will gently correct me should I make a mis-step. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Let me also state for the record, this does not constitute his maiden speech. This is part of the Question Period.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Thank you for that, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The maiden speech will come if he speaks on any other debate today.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto And I also will be guided. I have four questions. Should I lay them out together or one at a time?
The Speaker The Speaker It is three questions —
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Oh, it is three questions.
The Speaker The Speaker —three questions plus supplementaries. So put your first question. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Have you guys no schooling?
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, Members. Put your first question, and then get your supplementaries in, and you can move on to the next.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto You will pardon my confusion, Mr. Speaker. There were multiple reports but of course one Statement. So I hope you . . .
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. So put your questions and field any supplementaries from that question. QUESTION: ACTUARIAL REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT’S PENSION PLANS 2023 [Question disallowed]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes. My first question is, the Statement on the pensions referred to the outstanding investment performance that led to some of the results. As you know, there is quite a lot of turmoil in our neighbours to the west, the United States, and some of the investment markets there are …
The Speaker The Speaker Sorry. Were you asking for a direct question or opinion on it? Because the questions have . . . I am trying to quote the rule in my head, but it should not be opinionated. It should be a factual response, a factual based on the facts.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Well, let me disregard that question.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. All right. QUESTION 1: ACTUARIAL REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT’S PENSION PLANS 2023
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Okay. With regard to the actuarial reports, Mr. Speaker, and to the Honourable Premier, I have searched the Hansard high and low for the 2020 reports for the public sector pensions as well as the Members’ pension, and I wonder if the Premier can advise if the Ministry of Finance …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Okay. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, put your first question. Then he can answer, and if you have any supplementaries from his response, you get to ask two supplementaries. So let him respond. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, off the top of my head I would assume that the Ministry of Finance and the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Do you have a supplementary question, or do you want to go to your new question? Once you go to your new question, you cannot come back to this one.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto New question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, go right ahead. QUESTION 2: ACTUARIAL REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT’S PENSION PLANS 2023
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Will the Premier provide a general outline of the changes we might anticipate to see in the Public Sector Superannuation Fund pensions? Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: As has been stated in this House numerous times, recorded inside of the Hansard, especially from budget debates and discussions last year, the fact is that there are only a few changes of which you can make to pension funds, which I am sure the …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question now?
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes, supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Dr. Douglas DeCouto The Statement did indicate a very specific set of agreements had been reached. So I guess my question would be, Of the menu of options that the Premier mentioned, which options were going to be undertaken? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I just answered that: a combination of all three.
The Speaker The Speaker All three. Okay. Further supplementary or your third question? Third question? QUESTION 3: ACTUARIAL REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT’S PENSION PLANS 2023
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. The topic of the issues with the pensions has been a well -known topic in this House for at least five years on many, many Government and Opposition Statements. And so my question is, Can the Premier help us understand why it has taken so …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Government engages in broad and fulsome consultation, and I am certain that the Honourable Member is aware of the consultation which had been outlined in this House on numerous times, probably in the other place where he used to sit, …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Point of order, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. Yes. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto The Honourable Mr. Premier is misleading the House as to my intentions on what I may or may not be thinking to which he has no knowledge, Mr. Speaker. Ber muda House of Assembly The Speaker: Well, he was trying to respond. Okay. He was trying to respond with an …
The Speaker The Speaker But this is a supplementary ?
Dr. Douglas DeCouto —to the Honourable Premier, May you confirm (yes, a supplementary) what date did you first pres ent, did the Government first present a proposal to the unions and upon what date was the final agreement reached? Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: I can assure you I do not know …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second supplementary? Okay. And you used your three questions. Thank you. No further questions, Premier, for you on that Statement. The next Statement that has questions is the Statement from the Junior Minister. And again, it is MP DeCouto. Would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Thank you, Mr. Speaker, thank you. With respect to the Junior Minister’s Statement on the consolidated funds, it refers to $79.4 mil-lion of payroll funding from the sinking fund. Could we be advised as to why it was required to take those monies from the sinking fund for the payroll? …
The Speaker The Speaker Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, funds are allowed to be taken out of the sinking fund to be— [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: That is right, to be used for other areas. It is allowed right now. 34 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes, supplementary. My understanding . . . I am going to give the context so that he can answer it precisely, Mr. Speaker. My understanding is, we passed a law last March that enabled funds to be moved from the sinking fund into other funds. My understanding is that law, …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if I may answer?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is referring to a different section of law. The matters relat-ing to the excess borrowing fund able to cover deficits were passed, actually, by the One Bermuda Alliance when they were in office. And that is under the author-ity that was done. …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Further supplementary? Your second supplementary or second question?
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Second supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Go ahead.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Could the Junior Minister please advise when those funds were moved out of the sinking fund and if it was before or after the Gov-ernment Loans Amendment Act came into force? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Junior Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information right now. I can get it back to the Member. The Speaker: All right. Do you have a second question? No. Okay. Ministers, Members, that is the last question for that Statement. We will move on. …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes, good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank you. Good morning to colleagues and the listening audience. My first question is, Will this digitisation affect the employment of any person at TCD or cause rede-ployment from TCD to other departments?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister? Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The answer to that is no.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Or second question?
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Second question, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 2: TRANSPORT CONTROL DEPARTMENT ADVANCEMENT OF DIGITALISATION
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Will the digitisation of this particular TCD department cause any increase in data collection so that TCD can assist the transport stakeholders?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. In a nutshell, with improved technology, will we gain more information? [ Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Basically, that is the nutshell of it. Hon. Owen Darrell: Well, Mr. Speaker, I think if the Honourable Member was listening carefully to the question and the Statement, he would have under-stood that I went through a litany of positive things that were going to come out of this new …
The Speaker The Speaker So the answer is yes, it will be more information. Do you have a supplementary? Supplementary? Or third question? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes, Mr. Speaker. One supplementary. It is that data collection and data management were not included in the Statement. So, I would like for the Minister to expound on how that may be occur-ring. It was not mentioned in the Statement, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: The answer is yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Is there a second supplementary or third question, or are you done with your question? Okay, thank you. Oh, you are going to do a third question? Oh, yes, go ahead, I missed that. I thought you were done. QUESTION 3: TRANSPORT CONTROL DEPARTMENT ADVANCEMENT OF DIGITALISATION
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Third question: Assuming that this digitisation will be brought in by probably a third party or outside force, just asking . . . if that is the case will we be told who is handling that particular work?
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Minister? [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, direct your response this way. Members. [Crosstalk] Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All of the work of this new process will be done internally, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or no supplementary. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Mr . Dwayne Robinson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, one supplementary. Is there an estimated cost for this particular digitisation process from start to finish as it is set to start fairly soon?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Mr. Speaker, thank you. As I mentioned a moment ago, all works on this new project will be done internally. So the budgets that are already set will be used, and we will see ad-vancements. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second supplementary? None? Okay, that concludes your questions. However, Minister, there is another Member who would like to put questions to you on that State-ment. MP King, would you like to put your questions? [Crosstalk and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker All right, Members. Members.
Mr. Robert King They don’t listen to me they listen to the lawyer. [ Laughter]
Mr. Robert King Sorry. Good morning, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Honourable House.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: TRANSPORT CONTROL DEPARTMENT ADVANCEMENT OF DIGITALISATION
Mr. Robert King Regarding the Ministry of Transport, what is the timeline for full automation of the process-es? I know that there is going to be digitisation to improve efficiencies, et cetera. I am just wondering what the timeline is for full implementation. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Statement did say, we will be starting with three on March 31 of this year. As we get the three up and running, there were seven more that I did mention in the Statement that will come as …
The Speaker The Speaker First supplementary or second question?
Mr. Robert King First supplementary, please.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Robert King Understanding that there is a strategic plan that would have been drafted, timelines for completion of certain phases would have been pro-jected. I am wondering what those projected timelines are for full automation. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Owen Darrell: I am not sure if the Member did not hear my answer a minute ago, Mr. Speaker, but I will repeat it. We will have three that will be up and running as of March 31, and the others will follow subsequently. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second supplementary or second question?
Mr. Robert King Second question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Robert King This question is for the Minister of National Security.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Oh, no, no, no, no. [ Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, oh, oh. We are still on— [ Laughter and crosstalk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. No problem, no problem. Minister of National Security, at least you know you have a question coming; how is that? We will move on to the next Statement. The next Statement is actually the Minister of National Security in reference to his first Statement on the Fire Review. There …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that is further down. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Oh, that is further down? Okay, thanks.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, the Minister of National Security did two Statements. Originally, he was on the Order Paper ahead of time. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Ah, okay.
The Speaker The Speaker That is why I am doing the first one. So, we will do his first one now. We will get to his second one at the end of the Order Paper. His first one was in this order. QUESTION 1: NATIONAL FIRE CHIEFS COUNCIL PEER-L ED REVIEW OF THE BERMUDA …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think I said in my [Statement] that those results are being reviewed, and once they are finished being reviewed I would make the findings known.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay . Thank you. Supplementary or second question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please. What is the—
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: What is the anticipated delivery date for those findings being circulated to Parliament?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Bermuda House of A ssembly B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Probably not by the end of March but hopefully in our session sometime in May.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Thank you. Second supplementary or second question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Second question, please,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: NATIONAL FIRE CHIEFS COUNCIL PEER -LED REVIEW OF THE BERMUDA FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, actually, Mr. Speaker, I will move on to, When will stakeholders such as the public and/or high- risk infrastructure such as utility docks and ships, as well as front …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Can you clarify that? I do not think any of that was in my Statement. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. The Honourable Minister had mentioned that persons who were not in-cluded as stakeholders during the general election, such as Members of Parliament. My question was in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Another supplementary or third question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: End of questions for that Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, end of questions. Okay. Minister, you have questions from MP King. MP King, would you like to put your question now? QUESTION 1: NATIONAL FIRE CHIEFS COUNCIL PEER -LED REVIEW OF THE BERMUDA FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE Mr. Robert King: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Honourable Minister of …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: The recommendations for the implementation are pretty well immediate. Once the report is finalised and the recommendations are certain, then we will go about the process of putting those recommendations in place.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or second question? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Robert King Supplementary. Do we have an anticipated date for the implementation based on information received today? Thank you. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, definitely, as soon as possible.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any more questions? Supplementary or second question? Second question, yes.
Mr. Robert King Regarding the youth violence initiative, understanding the increase in violence—
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, that is going on to the next Statement.
Mr. Robert King Oh, yes, yes, sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker That is going on to the next Statement. Yes. No problem, we will move on. So there are no further questions on this Statement. Members, the next Statement that has questions is the Statement by the Minister of Economy and Labour in reference to the Employment amendment. MP Campbell, would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Vance Campbell Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Vance Campbell Supplemental, Mr. Speaker. So in the instance, it appears, Minister, that the employer may have paid more than they should have. Will the employer be required to recalculate payroll for the period in question, and will there be any refunds or credits offered to the employer for payroll tax and …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: In actual fact, how the law is written, the employer would not have paid more than they were due according to law. It was a misinterpretation in terms of the intention of the law. As a result of that, to head off this challenge we convened …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Further supplementary or new question? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, supplemental.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplemental. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. So, as of the first of March, Minister, 2024, at what point was it flagged and was it flagged by the employer or the employee? Or another entity?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Actually, it was a combination of both. And I would not say the word was actually “flagged.” We assumed in terms of intention it was a natural bridge to the Minimum Wage Order. However, because gratuities were never defined separately from tips, the only thing that …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? Okay, next question, yes. QUESTION 2: EMPLOYMENT AMENDMENT ACT 2025 Mr . Vance Campbell: One final question, Mr. Speaker. We have had a number of revisions to clarify matters as it pertains to the $16.40 in certain circumstances. Does the Minister feel that guidance notes or additional training …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The Department of Labour does put out guidance for the Employment Act and all of the provisions which lie in the Employment Act. We went through a great effort in terms of putting out guidance. We will continue to put out guidance. But if anyone needs …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Vance Campbell No, thank you. I thank the Minister for his responses.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, no further questions. Thank you. Minister, those were the only questions that were listed for that Statement. However, your next Statement also has questions. That is from MP Campbell again. MP Campbell, on the second Statement. QUESTION 1: BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION (PROHIBITION OF ENTRY) ORDER —BERMUDA’S VISA CONTROLLED …
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister as it relates to nationals of Trinidad and Tobago, particularly those who are here in Bermuda working, there has been provided a six -week transition period. Just for clarity, will the nationals who are working here from Trinidad and …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, as indicated in the Statement, we are going to provide full guidance to nationals from Trinidad and Tobago who may not possess a visa who are currently in Bermuda. Why I did not provide the clarity in this Statement is because ongoing conversations with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or new question? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Vance Campbell Supplementary. As it relates under the same purview or area, as it relates to visitors, they will definitely be required to leave . . . or will they be required to leave before the end of the transition period? Again, just for clarity for the public.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: I have sought to indicate that we will provide full guidance. I appreciate the ques-tions that are coming from the Opposition Member. The guidance that we will provide will provide clear, concise answers to the questions that he is currently asking. However, I think it would …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second supplementary or second question?
Mr. Vance Campbell Second supplemental. That guidance that the Minister has mentioned, will that be in person or by email or a combination?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: It will be through public notification.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question?
Mr. Vance Campbell No, that is it.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, that was the last question for that Statement. Thank you, Minister. Members, we will move on. The next Statement that has questions this morning is the Statement from the Minister of Works. Minister, you have questions from Members. The first Member is the Opposition Whip, who would like to …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. 40 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: Is the Member referring to the recently agreed pay increases?
The Speaker The Speaker Just clarify it for him, please. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. You say, “It is also noted that this decline in applications” on page 1, the third paragraph up from the bottom, “is despite the Government increasing its budget.” So is the budget that you have come up with for …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary or second question? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, a budget has been established. But if we go back and look at former Statements that were made, it was clear in this Honourable House that pay increase was one of those issues, that lifeguards were well underpaid. This is going over …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Speaker, in the Statement it referred to a process that the Government is going through, and part of the recommendation is a new pay scale. It is part of the process that is taking place, is the consideration of a new pay scale for these …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary or second question? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Second supplementary, yes. The reason I am asking the question is because we are already in the process of hiring lifeguards, and we are going to hire lifeguards without having put the increase in place, which was flagged as one of …
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary . . . no, second question? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. QUESTION 2: PROTECTING OUR SHORES: ENHANCING LIFEGUARD COVERAGE FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Second ques tion: considering back in May of 2024, and twice . . . and two Statements were done in May. You can see those in the Royal Gazette as well, which …
The Speaker The Speaker [INAUDIBLE] Hon. Jache Adams: No, Mr. Speaker, I am with you. I am not even quite sure if that was a question. I wel-come the Member to rephrase and put it into a better question. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Sure. At this point, how are we hiring . . . …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Hon. Jache Adams: Mr. Speaker, again there are two separate things. The lifeguards whom we are currently hiring have a . . . so that we are clear, the lifeguards whom we are taking on for a long- term description will have a job description. The eight whom …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary to that? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, yes. So, just to be clear . . . and I know the Honourable Member. I respect him and I know he is doing a good job to try and explain. So then, are we saying that we have employed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any further questions? No further question? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I am good.
The Speaker The Speaker You are good?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you also have questions that would like to be put to you by MP King. MP King?
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go right ahead. QUESTION 1: PROTECTING OUR SHORES: ENHANCING LIFEGUARD COVERAGE FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL
Mr. Robert King I am encouraged by the efforts to improve safety on Bermuda’s beaches. And I am wondering about the strategic plan regarding the life-guards that you are hiring. Excellent. In the meantime, has provision been made for netting and safety equipment being stationed at the beaches to improve safety before and …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: The short answer is yes. I would not specifically get into the specific equipment, but I 42 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly will say that we recognise the importance of safety, and so continued measures to improve our equip-ment, to …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary?
Mr. Robert King Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Given the Honourable Minister’s comments, can the Honourable Minister confirm if there are life-guards in situ now for the March 2025 cruise ships? And will there be in April 2025 as well, given that there will be 33 or so visits in April from cruise ships? …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: So that one is a bit difficult to answer simply because of, again we are in the pro-cess of hiring these consultants and the—,
Mr. Robert King So, no. Hon. Jache Adams: Now, we are not going to get off on a bad foot. But the short answer is no, but it can change. And the reason that I say it can change is that it de-pends on, as you recall, many of our lifeguards are, for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Supplemental to that?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go right ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. So considering the students coming back and the like, coming back po-tentially as consultants, what is then the consultant rate at this present time?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: The consultant rate at this time is $30.60 an hour. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any supplementary? No supplementary. Okay. Minister, those were the last questions that were for you. We will move on. The next Statement that has questions is the Statement from the Minister of the Cabinet in reference to the salary uplift for public officers. And the questions are from …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I will try to answer for the Minister of the Cabinet Office. I do not have those exact figures if they were not covered in the Statement. But I think it is important to note that they are variable, I think, as the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Okay, supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. Is the calculated increase going to be covered by ongoing revenue or require borrowing? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, there is no expec-tation of further borrowing that is going to happen un-der this Government.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary or second question? B ermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jarion R ichardson: Sec ond question, pl ease,
Mr. S peaker. The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 2: SALARY UPLIFT FOR PUBLIC OFFICERS Hon. Jarion Richardson: The Honourable Minister mentioned that the PwC review job evaluation reform is being completed and implementation is being progressed. Could he speak to, or would the Honourable Minister clarify how the job evaluation reform will align with the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou. Supplementary or n ew q uestion? Hon. J arion R ichardson: Supplementary, p lease, Mr . Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. I thank the Honourable Minister f or that. Will the reform process also address any inefficiencies, accountabilities and performance management in the public service? Hon. Diallo V . S. Rabain: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Ok. Y es. Second question? Hon. J arion R ichardson: Second s upplementary, thank y ou.
The Speaker The Speaker N o problem, y es. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Mr. Speaker, what are the plans to reduce the number of vacant funded posts —I believe the Honourable Minister said over 800— while implementing a new structure?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V . S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr . Speaker. Mr. S peaker, t he Honourabl e Member w ould recall f rom the Thro ne Speech and from the election platform that just took place that more resources and additional things will be done within DEOD [Department …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Further qu estion? Hon. J arion Richardson: Next ques tion, p lease, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3: SALARY UPLIFT FOR PUBLIC OFFICERS Hon. Jarion Richardson: The Honourable Minister had just spoken about making further Statements to the House and further reports relating to the reform process, including addressing inefficiencies and accountabilities. When will that report be brought to this Honourable House? Thank you, Mr …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, if I may help on this one as well, as I know Ministers are transitioning, et cetera. On the particular matter the Honourable Opposition Leader will know that there have been previous Statements in Throne Speeches regarding Public Service Commission Regulation reform, …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: No further questions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Honourable Minister and Premier.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Minister, y ou hav e also have questions f rom MP C ampbell. MP Campbell. QUESTION 1: SALARY UPLIFT FOR PUBLIC OFFICERS 44 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Mr. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Or Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member would know from the Pre- Budget Report that it is stated insofar as future increases where it made a specific provi-sion for increases to public sector salaries, as we knew that negotiations were taking …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question? SUPPLEMENTARY Mr . Vance Campbell: Supplementary. Were the agreed increases in line with the provisions that were made in the Pre- Budget Report? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary or second question? Mr . Vance Campbell: Nothing else.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Members, that brings us to an end of the questions for that Statement. The next Statement that has questions is actually by the Minister of National Security. Your sec-ond Statement has a Member who wishes to ask questions. Your first is from the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader. …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead, Member. Sec ond question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Second question, please,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: RECENT YOUTH VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Are the security arrangements at all of the schools being reviewed at this time? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Well, actually, that is an Education problem . . . not problem. I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. That is an …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or sec ond question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Supplementary, please.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Would the Honourable Minister be able to s peak to the extent to whic h he or the technical officers at National Security hav e been consulted in the proces s of a security rev iew?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The team at the Ministry of National Security is working closely with the schools and with Education in try ing to provide the bes t sec urity possible for our children.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 3: RECENT YOUTH VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Fantas tic. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Honourable Minis ter. When can we anticipate being updated as to the changes being made subsequent to thes e disturbing events?
The Speaker The Speaker Members, even though we have gone past the 12:30 mark, we hav e only got fiv e minutes or so left on questions. So, we are going to finish that and then break for lunch. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: The views are always ongoing. So as we mov e from …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Are there any tangible or measurable impacts that we can see that are currently anticipated in this review? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Well, the measurable impacts, hopefully, Mr. Speaker, would be less school disturbances by our children.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That was all of your supplementaries. Hon. Jarion Richardson: That was perfect. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. You are all right. Good. MP King, would you like to put your questions in these four minutes that we have left? QUESTION 1: RECENT YOUTH VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am following on from what was said earlier. Do we have a timeline on when these new protocols will be put in place to address the increase in youth violence? Thank you. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, can I get clarity on that as …
The Speaker The Speaker Could you provide the clarify for [the Honourable Minister]? Thank you.
Mr. Robert King Sure. Understanding that the issue of youth violence has been mentioned in the House on numerous occasions, I understand that there would be a strategic plan that would involve consulting with relevant authorities, local and abroad. And with that in mind, the same way that the Fire Service had a …
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have a supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Robert King Understanding anecdotally and as reported the current measures are not meeting their objective, which is decreasing the incidence of youth violence. So in terms of the strategic plan, what are the implementation targets, the specific measurables that we are trying to achieve, and what are those deadlines that we are …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I will start from the beginning, the back, and work forward. First of all, the obvi-ous thing that we are trying to achieve is to eradicate new violence completely. And what we are doing now, we are trying to decrease new violence. And I feel …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Any supplementary or third question?
Mr. Robert King No, I am finished. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, that brings us to a close of the Question Period for this morning. So I am going to ask now that we stand, and, Premier — Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Honourable House do now adjourn for lunch and come back at …
The Speaker The Speaker That is fine. Hon. E. David Burt: Is it two? 46 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes. Hon. E . David B urt: Two -oh-five?
The Speaker The Speaker Do you n eed an ex tra five m inutes or do you want — Hon. E . David B urt: It i s up to you, Mr . Speaker. Hon. Z ane J. S . De Silva: Two -ten would be great. Hon. E . David B urt: Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker It s ounds like I h ave t o do something now. W e will come back at 2: 05 pm. Hon. E . David B urt: Thank y ou, Mr . Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Members, t he House stands adj ourned until 2:05 pm. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:36 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:06 pm [Hon. Dennis P. L ister, J r., Speaker, i n the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Goo d afternoon, Members. T he House will resume for t he afternoon session. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker When we broke for lunch we had just completed the Question Period, and we now move on to the next item on the Order Paper. CONGRATULATORY AN D/OR OBITUARY SPE ECHES
The Speaker The Speaker MP Lawrence Scott, would y ou like to make a contributi on at t his time?
Mr. W. L awrence Scott Yes, Mr . Speaker, I w ould.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Mr. Speaker, I would like the Honourable House to send a letter of congratulations to Mr. Tariq Lynch- Wade. He is the founder of Aviators Alliance Bermuda. They had a symposium this week, and I could only say that it was very heartwarming, heartfelt and exciting. Just to be around …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member? MP Tyrrell. Mr . Neville S. Tyrrell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And good afternoon, colleagues and the radio audience. Mr. Speaker, we have not had this opportunity to do this item for quite a while. So my congrats may seem a little dated; …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member? Opposition Leader. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to congratulate, and I hope the House joins me in congratulating, Casa dos Açores, Portuguese charity, for its 10th anniversary gala which they had during our break. For 10 years they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member? MP DeCouto.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would like to send my condolences to the family of Mrs. Eve Redford, her children Vivian, Judy and Graham, and I am sure some others will associ-ate with that as well, and all of the grandchildren. As well as Mrs. Janet Bento. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The entire House. Dr . Douglas DeCouto: And the entire House, if they so desire, of course. Now I must admit it was a learning experience for me. But I will just tell you I was blown away by the event and what I learned about that club and their …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister Diallo Rabain. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like congratulations sent to all of the participants in the [Minister of Education’s Debate Challenge] that recently was completed. It was a journey of love. I know it started under myself, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Minister. Deputy Speaker.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Good day , Mr. Speaker. Good day to the listening public. Mr. Speaker, I rise on a sad note to give condolences to the family of Carolyn Smith, mother to Wayne Furbert, Randall Furbert, Calvin Smith, Carolyn -Lynn Smith and predeceas ed by her son Collins Smith. She is greatly …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo And I would like to associate the Member from constituency 2, Mr. Kim Swan, who would like any of us from St. George’s to know how closely knit we are and why we mourn the loss of Mrs. Sandra Smith. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. MP King, would you like your three minutes?
Mr. Robert King Yes, Mr. Speaker. First off, I will start by extending my condolences to the family of Dr. Fulton. His sister Helen Ortiz died recently. To the family of Mr. Neville Trott, the family of Mr. [Colin Michael Hind “Dusty”] and also Eldridge Woods. On a lighter note, I want to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Minister Weeks. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, I have a few congrats. I would like to first congratulate the Boulevard Blazers, they are my constituents, on their well -deserved promotion back to the Premier Division after a two- year …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. I would like to start by being associated with the remarks by MP King in relation to the condolences to the family of Dr. Fulton, and also to the Hind family who lost Dusty Hind. I would also like to offer condolences —I do not know …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. MP Swan, would you like your three minutes?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences to the Lau family, which is indeed the Ming family in St. George’s in which our sister Cheryl, Johnny Ming, Darlene. I know how very saddened her sister Cheryl was. We were very close indeed. And my condolences also …
The Speaker The Speaker Wishful thinking, but will not be delivered on. MP, Deputy Opposition Leader.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to be associated with the condolences for Nelson Chesterfield Simons, the father of our former Opposition Leader, Cole Simons. I did attend that funeral. It was well attended. Specifically, I would like to speak of the eulogy that was given by Colonel …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Opposition Whip, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon, colleagues. Due to the timing, I was not able to be in the House while we were . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. MP Scott Simmons, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If you would not mind, Mr. Speaker, I would just like to be associated with the condolences that have already been sent to [the family of] Mr. George Burch, a faithful member of the Hamilton Seventh- day Adventist Church. I remember as a young man that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Simmons. MP Tucker, you have your three minutes.
Ms. Robin Tucker Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Ms. Robin Tucker I would like condolences to be sent to two of my constituents’ families, Mr. David Barnes and Mr. Charles (Sonny) Charves. I would like to also associate myself with the condolences expressed for Mrs. Trudi Ann Pugh. She was actually one of my son’s teachers at Mount Saint Agnes. And …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker, and colleagues and people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, Devonshire has lost four persons in the last couple of weeks. At least four. I associate with Ms. Sandra Smith, she was one of the first people to say, Hey, I’m from St. George’s and I’m PLP proud. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Robinson.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to extend condolences to the family of Walter Carlington who was a man of faith and was one of my favourite conversations on the canvassing trail. He will be missed. His family is mourning his quite- sudden passing and I wanted to extend …
The Speaker The Speaker [INAUDIBLE] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I rise today to ask the House to give condolences to Dr. James Brockenbrough. Mr. Speaker, you may know that he was a cardiothoracic surgeon who practiced in Bermuda from 1997 through 2004. He was a graduate of Howard …
The Speaker The Speaker [INAUDIBLE]
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good afternoon colleagues. I would like to echo the sentiments of my colleagues who spoke before me and all of those who have passed and been praised for their accomplishments. But I would like to focus in on Mr. Woods. We do not often get …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Undefeated! [Laughter] Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons: So, I am glad to see that it has been resumed. It is a tremendous learning opportunity for young people. It is not an easy thing to do. And I congratulate this young man for his accomplishment. And finally, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I did come back late from lunch so I am uncertain if anyone did anything for the family of Ms. Grace Eileen Simmons. …
The Speaker The Speaker Congratulations, not condolences. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, sorry. Congratulations. I am a little bit tired, Mr. Speaker, as you understand.
The Speaker The Speaker Any other Member? Any other Member? No other Member. Before we move on, I would just like to add my name to some of those comments that were expressed, namely condolences to the following families: the family of Mr . George Burch. I have known the Burch family practically all …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTION FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are Bills that we introduce at this time to be tabled. And I believe we have a further indulgence —no, that’s under Motions. Go ahead. [Crosstalk] FIRST READING CORPORATE INCOME TAX (PENALTY PROVISIONS) AMENDMENT ACT 2025 Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister Hayward. FIRST READING EMPLOYMENT AMENDMENT ACT 2025 Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meet-ing, the Employment Amendment Act 2025. The Speaker: Thank you. Next, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker [There are none.] NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. THAT THIS HONOURABLE HOUSE HEREBY EMPOWERS THE MINISTER OF FINANCE TO AUTHORISE THE WITHDRAWAL OF MONIE S FROM THE CONSOLIDATED FUND Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I hereby give notice that I propose to move the following resolution at the next day of meeting: WHEREAS it …
The Speaker The Speaker And we seek the indulgence of the House on another motion that the Premier would lik e to introduce at this time. THATMINISTERS AND MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE (SALARIES AND PENSIONS) ACT 1975 BE REVOKED Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I hereby give notice that I propose …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That now brings us to the main item of the day. We now move on to the Orders of the Day. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker The first item is the consideration of the Speech with which His Excellency the Governor was pleased to open the present session of the Legislature. Premier, Minister of Finance. MOTION THATCONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO THE THRONE SPEECH WITH WHICH HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR WAS PLEASED TO OPEN THE PRESENT SESSION …
The Speaker The Speaker While we are waiting for the cameras to get resolved, the Sergeant-a t-Arms is handing out the Reply to the Throne Speech so Members can follow along when the Opposition Leader starts his pres entation. We have been given the go-ahead. Opposition Leader, you can start your presentation. 2025 REPLY …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Leader of the Opposition. Members, and for the listening audience, that was the Official Opposition’s Reply to the Throne Speech that was delivered last week. Before I acknowledge the first speaker from the Government , I am going to give a couple of minutes for the cameras to …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Hayward, you can have the floor. DEBATE ON THE 2025 THRONE SPEECH AND REPLY Hon. Jason Hayward: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I stand here once again being able to represent the constituents of Pembroke Central. And I thank the constituents of Pembroke Central for their trust and confidence in me and restoring me to this position in this Honourable House. I also stand here …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes! Hon. Jason Hayward: I believe that in today’s daily is a reference that the Opposition “threw down the gauntlet” in their call for an election. Believe it or not, Mr. Speaker, they called for an election, and they were not ready. They were not ready for an election. As …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: Which means while our root was to ensure that we advance the quality of life for people, other parties started to oppose the Progressive Labour Party. We will continue to strive and persevere for a fairer Bermuda for all. We will continue to put Bermudians first. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I heard it. Hon. Jason Hayward: And that message was that they do not believe you are fit to govern.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ooh. Hon. Jason Hayward: While we have secured an election victory, Mr. Speaker, we will not turn a blind eye to those individuals on the doorsteps who ex-pressed levels of concern. We listened to those concerns, and it is our responsibility to alleviate and address those concerns. Make better choices …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: And I am sure that would have been echoed by residents in other constituencies when my colleagues knocked on their doors.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, it would. Hon. Jason Hayward: But, Mr. Speaker, more importantly, if the Government does not reflect on all of the information that we gained during this election cy-cle, we are simply not doing our job. What I had to make abundantly clear, Mr. Speaker, on the doorsteps was that …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: Most times after that conversation the residents simply said, Thank you, Minister Hayward, it is appreciated. And then they said, You need to find a way to ensure that everybody hears this information because there is too much foolishness out there. I was able to speak …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: How this Government has a zero tolerance for bullying and harassment in the workplace and how we ensure that everybody has a workplace policy pertaining to workplace bullying [and] harassment. I spoke about how we increased compensation for workplace injuries. How we have extended maternity leave, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, yes. Work with us and all that stuff. Hon. Jason Hayward: Well, we haven’t seen that support. We haven’t seen where you are prepared to work with us. [Crosstalk] Hon. Jason Hayward: We haven’t seen the positive articles the same way the negative articles come out. You only talk …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ah-ha! [Crosstalk]
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Ooh! Ooh! [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I need . . . I need people to talk to the Chair. Speak to the Chair, please. Hon. Jason Hayward: Madam Deputy Speaker —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes, Minister, continue. Hon. Jason Hayward: The reality is we have supported our seniors. We have eliminated land tax for care homes. We have a robust national senior strate-gy that we are in the mix of executing on that will ensure positive outcomes for our seniors. We have increased our …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s correct. Hon. Jason Hayward: That is not responsible. There are social challenges that we have in our communities that do not emanate from Government policy. And also, they are not easily addressed by Government policy but we are committed to separating the symptoms from the problem and providing a …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Who? Hon. Jason Hayward: —if there is something—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Who? Hon. Jason Hayward: —positive —
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Point of Order.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Honourable Opposition Leader.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Point of Order, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order, Member.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto He is not using the appropriate—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He? He? Bermuda House of Assembly Some Hon. Members: He?
Dr. Douglas DeCouto The Minister — [Laughter and crosstalk ]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto The Minister, Madam Deputy Speaker, is not using the appropriate parliamentary procedures.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Member. Minister, the Members are Honourable Members. Hon. Jason Hayward: Most certainly. And no slight was meant to him as . . . just in the course of speaking. But the Honourable Member did say that he will highlight and give credit where it is due. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of . . . your point of order? Mr . Scott Pearman: —to withdraw that remark. I have never said what he has just said I said. I am sorry; that is not true.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Excuse me. I did not acknowledge you, Member. Your point of order? Mr . Scott Pearman: My point of order is that Honourable Minister is misleading the House.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. [ Inaudible interjections]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Craig Cannonier articulated You are gone. Looked me eye to eye. The Honourable Member Craig Cannonier. And then— Mr . Scott Pearman: Point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member, your point of order. 74 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Minister seems to have confused MP Scott Pearman, who he just ac - cused of quoting that, with MP Cannonier. I believe we do look different.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member— Hon. Jason Hayward: Madam Deputy Speaker, I said the Honourable Member Cannonier did say I am gone. And then the Honourable Member Pearman said, I hope you find a job.
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I deny that I said that. And if the Honourable Minister wants to point to that in the Hansard, I will offer him an apology. But I did not say that. Thank you. Hon. Jason Hayward: Madam Deputy Speaker, it came from one of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Do y ou yiel d to point of clarification? Hon. J ason H ayward: No. N o. There is n o point of clarification. [Inaudible i nterjections] Hon. J arion R ichardson: Point of order. H e is mi sleading the House. H e invited me to — The D …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: —f or governing this country . That was made—
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Point of order. The Honourable Minister is misleading the House.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? [Inaudible interjections] POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto The Honourable Minister is misleading the House, Madam Deputy Speak er.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Thank you for your point of order.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What is the point of order?
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes, most voters did not vote for this Government, Madam Deputy Speaker. [Laughter]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. [Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member There you go again. Hon. Jason Hayward: Madam Deputy Speaker, we won the election. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jason Hayward: We won the election by the majority of persons who voted. Secondly, those voters that chose not to come out and vote for the Progressive Labour Party, they still did not …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other persons? I recognise Member Scott. Member Scott. 76 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Pearman: Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I’m sorry. Pearman. Member Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman Before I begin, a point of protocol. I don’t know if I missed it, but I would lik e to be the person to welcome you to the Chair today becaus e I don’t think anyone has officially welcomed you as the new Deputy Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. I am not increasing your time. [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman You can add another 10 minutes.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker And Member, before you continue, I just want to let other Members know when they are standing on a point of order, they have to wait until the Chair recognises them. Thank you. This is for all Members. Yes .
Mr. Scott Pearman Duly noted. Thank y ou, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman Let me change the tone a little bit from the last speaker. And let me s tart, if I may, Madam Deputy Speaker, by quoting from the Government’s Throne Speech itself. At page 1, they say: “The people of Bermuda have entrusted this government . . . to collaborate, and …
Mr. Scott Pearman We are proposing solutions and indeed that is part of the Opposition’s job, to propose, not just to oppose. And I am grateful that the Govern-ment, that are now starting to chirp, are prepared to listen to my voice, just like everyone else’s voice as they said in their Throne …
Mr. Scott Pearman All right? And the Honourable Premier has just chirped in, How? And I am grateful again that he is willing to listen to my voice. [ Inaudible interjections] Mr . Scott Pearman: So here are three ways. In fact, they are the only three I know. If we want more …
Mr. Scott Pearman I didn’t . . . I’m sorry. I didn’t hear what the Honourable Member said and I am now told he is being nice so I thank him if he is being nice. [ Inaudible interjections] Mr . Scott Pearman: No doubt . . . I am going to continue …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Are there any other Members who wish to s peak? I recognise the Member from constituency 15. This is his Maiden Speech in the House, so we normally sit quietly without interruption— Hon. Owen Darrell: No, you can let them bring the heat, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker —t o the speaker. So you have 30 minutes. Hon. Owen Darrell: Let them bring the heat. [Inaudible interjections] MAIDEN SPEECH Hon. Owen Darrell: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. And again, I would like to echo the sentiments of the Member from acros s the aisle of constituency 22 who …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: This Government is committed to putting people first. And I must admit, Madam Deputy Speaker, I sat here and I struggled to hear the em-phasis [from] the other side of the people of which we serve. We are building a future in this party, in this …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: Those are giants in this community. And they have worked hard to make this country better and we have a responsibility to do the same for our future generations. I cannot tell you the number of times that I walked and they said, Well, you know, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Owen Darrell: Not just photo ops. Not just photo ops. Mind you, I would have liked to have seen some of them in the photo because it is that important. But we are backing major projects such as the Fairmont Southampton redevelopment. Because they create jobs for Bermudians. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, you are. Hon. Owen Darrell: Now, it was announced some time ago that there are currently two new ferries being built. That has been in the infrastructure because although I come from down the East End, I can tell you that the moment that the water is a little …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Don’t go back. Hon. Owen Darrell: I was sitting in a particular meeting earlier this week and the question came up and said, We are having this general debate. It is the Throne Speech Reply. We need to know who is speaking. I put my hand up. I think I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other persons who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 8. Is it? Yes, I recognise the Member from constituency 8. Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Madam Deputy Speaker, the Minister who just took his seat — [ Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Ben Smith Don’t worry. [ Laughter]
Mr. Ben Smith From when we were in another place, he referred to the doom and gloom and the storms that always happen whenever we are having these kinds of debates. Well, Madam Deputy Speaker, what happens is when you are doing the door knocking that he was referring to, so many times …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The Member is intentionally misleading the House. No s chool closes without any student knowing where they are going to be before that school c loses.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member.
Mr. Ben Smith So moving forward, there are times that parents cannot get into first choice, s econd choice. [They ] do not k now where they are going to be able to send their child. And in many cases— Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Again, the Member is misleading the House, and this time he is doing it intentionally. I have already said that no school clos es without a student being allocated to another school. I do fully admit, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Member, continue.
Mr. Ben Smith So maybe that is the is sue. That the parent wants to mak e sure that their child has the best opportunity and the choice that they are getting is not the one that they think is in the best interest of their child. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point …
Mr. Ben Smith And that is the frustration. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member, your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Again, the Member is misleading the House. What he is implying is that one school, or a particular set of schools does not offer the Bermuda House of Assembly same thing that another particular set of …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Member, is that what you were saying?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. So clarify. Thank you.
Mr. Ben Smith Madam Deputy Speaker. So, the issue is parents . Right? Because I’m not lucky enough to be a parent. So the people that I am speaking to are telling me how they feel about their children. So, if the Minister disagrees with these parents, that’s fine. But understand something. That …
Mr. Ben Smith The Minister can get upset about it — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The Member is again misleading the House. That Member has been invited to many meetings that he has chosen not to attend.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh-oh! Oh- oh! [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And so while he stands here and says that he has spoken to parents, he has spoken to teachers — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —he has not spoken to the Reform Unit. He has not spoken to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Okay, Member. You can relate to the House what your feedback is at the doorstep. But just sort of park it there. Do not take it further and say that it means thus and so. But you can speak to what you have heard at doorsteps.
Mr. Ben Smith Which is exactly what I am doing. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I will move on to facilities, then, since that will probably get the same activation because— [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Mr. Ben Smith —when teachers contact you and tell you that the stench of sewage early in the morning is what they are greeted with in the school and it has not been dealt with for an extended period of time, I would say that is something that I should talk about here. …
Mr. Ben Smith —so as we are actually moving forward, our position is that some of the reform seems like it has not been finished all the way through. Even though we have spent millions of dollars from a consultant who should have told us how this process works, the frustration has been …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Well, that would be nice.
Mr. Ben Smith So, we have pointed out solutions, but if we don’t give the details of the solution then that is not enough. So now we have to write it, do the legislation . . . remember, all of the resources are on the other side. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Ben Smith So, most important thing in this education is the student and that needs to be our focus. COVID -19. We do not like to talk about it, but it had an impact on all of our students —public, private, it doesn’t matter. It is the . . . the statistics …
Mr. Ben Smith But it does not mean that when things are not going well, because there is protesting that is happening from a certain school in a certain constituency, that you get to change your mind. B ermuda House of Assembly An Hon. Member: Oh!
Mr. Ben Smith Because the decision should have been data driv en. If the decision was based off of the information that had been provided and from the consultant that you paid, then you cannot switch. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The Member is intentionally misleading the House. He keeps referring to the consultant that we hired. The c onsultant was brought on after the dec ision of primary schools was made.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member.
Mr. Ben Smith And it will be wonderful to see how long we are going to continue with them and how much they will continue to get paid considering the amount of interruptions that we have, including what will be happening in September when some of the students who should have been going …
Mr. Ben Smith —t hat allows us to know whether we have—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Once again, the Member is misleading, bec ause if he would come and sit with the Education Reform Unit—a s we have asked him to do for the last five years—h e would actually see those …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. [ Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Ben Smith So, Madam Deputy Speaker, it is actually not important that I get those answers. It is important that the population gets those answers. That data is available— Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order.
Mr. Ben Smith —and honestly, they don’t —
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order?
Mr. Ben Smith —understand because they — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order!
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of order! Member, do not keep speaking when there is a point of order on the floor. Okay. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Again, if the Member would . . . it is interesting that the Member keeps finding the same people to talk to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That ends the debate. Thank you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 19. Member, you may speak. Hon. Jache Adams: Good evening, Madam Deputy Speaker.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hey, you are sick, brother. [ Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jache Adams: I am a bit disappointed this evening. I am bit disappointed this evening because the Throne Speech Debate and Budget Debate tend to be my favourite days in Parliament. I enjoy those days . . . or these days. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jache Adams: Now, Madam Deputy Speaker, that is incredibly important. So I hope that we will get a commendation from the One Bermuda Alliance when on Monday we will announce four new trash trucks will join the fleet. Okay? So —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yay! [Desk thumping and i naudible interjections] Hon. Jache Adams: Thank you very much. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jache Adams: So that is tick number one—tick number — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jache Adams: Not quite. Not quite. Not quite. Not quite. Not quite. Madam Deputy Speaker, then there was a comment …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And what did you find? Hon. Jache Adams: And what I found . . . and if you would allow me, Madam Deputy Speaker, it said, in quotes, “The Government of Bermuda has pledged to provide new tax relief for entrepreneurs [ of] new startups to assist them in creating …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Where does it exist? Hon. Jache Adams: The audit exists and we have taken the liberty to ensure that appropriate financing is made to address some of the government properties into affordable housing. He then said “[Emergency] road repaving initiatives.” Well, I can say that we are currently in the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Very true. Ho n. Jache Adams: And if the Opposition wants, in my opinion, to be taken seriously they need to better understand the difference between criticism and contribution.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You show us how. Ho n. Jache Adams: Any day. [Inaudible interjection] Ho n. Jache Adams: The Honourable Member Pearman often refers to . . . I think it is his Equity Bill. Am I correct?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Equality Act. Hon. Jache Adams: Equality Act. But until . . . that is the only time that I have ever heard of them introducing or speaking about an Opposition Bill. It is totally within their right to discuss and raise what sort of Oppositi on Bills they plan to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member So you are going to bring it back? Hon. Jache Adams: If it is decent. [Laughter and crosstalk ] Hon. Jache Adams: If it makes sense. If it makes sense. But, Madam Deputy Speaker— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jache Adams: Yes. Listen. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Jache Adams: I remember. But , …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] 92 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Dr. Douglas DeCouto: The Minister is perhaps inadvertently mis leading the House because if you read the Fiscal Responsibility Panel Report, for example, it will highlight the over $100 million …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank y ou, Member. Minister, continue. Hon. Jache Adams: Madam Deputy Speaker, our fiscal year ends on March 31, in a few days . We will then be subjec t to an annual audit as we always are. And I am fairly confident that that audit will announce that the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member COVID -19. Hon. Jache Adams: I have COVID -19, yes. [Laughter] Hon. Jache Adams: Sit down. Everybody take it easy. [Laughter] Hon. Jache Adams: Let me acknowledge my predecessors. My predecessors recognise that the Ministry has slightly shifted. It is Public Works and Environ-ment. So, much of my Ministry is …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member True. Hon. Jache Adams: There is too much reliance on this corporate income tax. Well, Madam Deputy Speaker, here is the key point to the entire argument. We will soon have it con-firmed that the Government has positioned ourselves, as I said earlier, to have its first fiscal surplus in …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto I still believe that the Minister is perhaps confused and unintentionally misleading the House because my understanding is that the net debt has actually increased in the prior year. Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Minister. Hon. Jache Adams: So, let’s be clear. Those are separate items. Those are separate items. What I am referring to is revenue vers us expenditure. And I am simply say ing this year it will be confirmed that we will be receiv ing a fiscal surplus, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? I recognise the Member from constituency 12, I believe it is. Member, you have the floor. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and good afternoon colleagues and to Ber-muda. I must say, Madam Deputy Speaker, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker [INAUDIBLE] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: What? [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Absolutely. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Typically, I enjoy lively a debate. And the tone was set from the Reply, which I will say after 13 years . . . or maybe 14 …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I agree. Another Hon. Member: Yes. [Crosstalk and laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So full of solutions and the like . . . we might want to tame down some of the noise. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, I want to say—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Honourable Opposition Leader. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I w ill take that half a minute back. [Laughter] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: It has left me a bit bewil-dered because I am like . . . I am used to a little bit of brimstone and fire. And the honourable colleague …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hayward. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Hayward, yes. The Honourable Member Jason Hayward spoke about, you know, we are just always . . . Opposition, Opposition, Opposition. Just going at it. And quite frankly, we have been kind of tame on this side, to a whole lot, Madam Deputy Speaker. But …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member probably is misleading the House. Because maybe, just maybe, he is not aware of what is going on. But he just suggested that other contrac tors should help the Gov ernment with the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank y ou, Member. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, I would beg to differ that there are only two. We know of some smaller, private companies as well who have been bidding. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes. Who have been bidding with Public Works— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order, Member. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is certainly misleading the House and this time I have to think it is intentional. Because Colonel Burch—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —in the last session in this House gave a very full detailed explanation as to what was going on and what was planned.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, Madam Deputy Speaker, and unfortunately the gentleman who just stood up is misguiding everyone because there was no mention that other companies were doing the roads in that statement. So if he wants — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is not true. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: That is absolutely not true.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of — POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Minister . . . you can check Hansard. The Minister very clearly and articulated, stated that East End Asphalt Company were doing one end of the Island and Government were up at the other end of the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Member, continue. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. We hear a lot . . . yes, yes. But no one seems to be able to produce it. So I will be waiting to see if they can produce that statement. I do not recall hearing that from …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Deputy Speaker, if you would allow me I would like to read from Colonel Bermuda House of Assembly Burch’s [ press conference ] statement [10 February 2025]. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh-oh! Hon. E. David Burt: …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Thank you. I will move on with my time because I know they like to take up my time. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No apologies. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, we are . . . there are no apologies. I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s wrong! Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: There is a crisis in Bermuda right now. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: And because of the crisis, the Government should be apologising for allowing the streets to get into the mess that they are in now. That is where the apology should …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You shouldn’t say that. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So, then you should . . . You know what? Okay. We are having a problem in this Island with our roads. Our taxi drivers — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order, Member. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I think the Honourable Member should really consider withdrawing that. To say that the roads are possibly killing people in this country when people have road accidents and we know this, I think that should be …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Out of order. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: So— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Come on now. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Come on now. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The people of Bermuda . . . this is what they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Rabain, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Thank you, Honourable Member s, for this debate that we have had today, this conversation that we have had today. Interesting reading through this particular document. Mr. Speaker, when I read through this, you …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Electives. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Electives. What we have decided, and what we have gone and said is those are not going to be just random electives. They are now going to be structured around a signature so if you are interested in learning about accounting, you are now …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No! [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: That is why we do it. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: But what we are trying to do is say come and sit and look at what our children are doing. Our children want to see you, adults. They do …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ahh! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, and you know, and they keep talking about this, Mr. Speaker . The one thing that really bothers me . . . the one thing that really bothers me — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: What really bothers me, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Jarion Richardson: Finland absolutely does. I don’t have the whole legislative framework for Finland. But that is definitely an independent agency. Thank you. [ Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay, Mr. Speaker, the education policy and oversight is …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Point of order, Mr. Speaker . The—
The Speaker The Speaker What is your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto The Minister is perhaps unintentionally misleading the House. It was in the budget twice and I believe that it was draft legislation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I am not sure what that point of order is, Mr. Speaker, because I said it was not …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. MP Fahy —
Mr. Michael Fahy Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. You have your time on the clock. 106 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report B ermuda House of Assembly Mr. Michael Fahy: Okay. This is a maiden, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, it is a maiden speech so —
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Ooh! [ Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker That means that there is a certain courtesy that comes with that maiden speech. So, Members I am going to ask you to restrain yourselves. [ Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, restrain yourselves. Mr . Michael Fahy: Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. MAIDEN SPEECH
Mr. Michael Fahy Mr. Speaker, I rise today to give my maiden speech, as I have said, having been elect-ed for the first time to this Honourable House. Thanks to the voters of constituency 20. I am entitled to this time. You will not be seeing me reading next time. [ Inaudible interjections] …
Mr. Michael Fahy Like the Honourable Members from constituencies 2 and 33, who I once s hared a caucus room with. We took different paths but still find ourselves in the same place. Mr. Speaker— [Inaudible interjections ]
Mr. Michael Fahy It is. It is . [Laughter]
Mr. Michael Fahy I am equally not a total s tranger to at least being in the House of Assembly, albeit in a different location. I sat through many a debate to as - sist my Junior Ministers when I was the substantive Minister in another place. During that time my name was …
The Speaker The Speaker I think the Speaker got it right just now.
Mr. Michael Fahy “Fay.” [Laughter]
Mr. Michael Fahy I was forced to sit in silence as some Members of this Honourable House, who still remain in their seats, hid behind parliamentary privilege to drag my family name through the mud with the full intent of trying to tarnish both the polic ies of the One Bermuda Alliance and …
Mr. Michael Fahy I have been busy. I have four fantastic children, from aged 9 months to 17 years who, like me, are proud Bermudians. They are incredible children and I love them dearly. And last but not least, my Irish wife Eimear, for accepting my desire to re- engage politically has supported …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker MP from constituency 28. MP Lister, you have your 30 minutes.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Good evening to my fellow c olleagues and to our listening audience. It is an honour to stand this evening, Mr. Speaker, in strong support of the PLP’s 2025 Throne Speech delivered by our Government, the Progres sive Labour Party. This Throne Speech outlines our v …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Well, I have freight costs mentioned, Mr. Speaker . [ Inaudible interjections] Mr . Dennis Lister III: I am listening to the wisdom of my teammates. I will stay to the wicket. So, Mr. Speaker, part of the reducing of costs and passing that relief on to the consumers is …
Mr. Dennis Lister III I have not yet, as the Member in front of me, reached the magic age of 40. I am a few months away, Mr. Speaker . So I still consider myself young. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You are a baby to some. [Laughter]
Mr. Dennis Lister III But, Mr. Speaker, I looked at what we are doing for education. And if you look on page 3 . . . as I looked on page 3 of our Throne Speech, seeing that we are going to expand access for funding for tertiary education, Mr. Speaker, that is key …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Robinson. You have your 30 minutes, sir.
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Speaker , and good evening to the listening audience, my colleagues and also to my constituents. Bermuda House of Assembly I want to start off first of all by thanking the constituents of —
The Speaker The Speaker This is your maiden speech, right? Yes. Members, just be mindful. This is his maiden speech—
The Speaker The Speaker —so he has the courtesy of an uninterrupted speech. MAIDEN SPEECH
Mr. Dwayne Robinson Thank you, Mr. Speaker . So, I just wanted to start off first by thanking the constituents of Southampton East Central for electing me. It has been a roundabout road for me during this process and I just wanted to express that before kicking in to my comments. This particular …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson —constituents . We are here to represent constituents. And a lot of times we get caught up and we forget that we align on a good bit of policy. But what we do not align on is the execution of that policy. When I looked at the Throne Speech, there …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson No, not yet. But I support that initiative. I also do support the amendments to the Criminal Code for abortion rights for women. I think that that is long overdue, and I think that it is a great move in the right direction. I also do support the protections of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear!
Mr. Dwayne Robinson And I do not understand why it comes across that even the Government of the day does not quite understand the role of the official Opposition in this House. We are not meant — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Dwayne Robinson We are not meant to give high-fives and pats on the back. We will support good policy. As I have said, I support a lot of good policy but I am . . . and I am sure many people listening are sick of being asked to give kudos for …
Mr. Dwayne Robinson But at the end of the day, I want to say that I do look forward to working with colleagues in this House because I believe that this particular Parliament is going to be one of the mos t crucial in our history and the Progressive Labour Party has an …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, MP Robinson. [Timer chimes]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan, I see y ou rise down in the corner. Would you like to have y our 30 minutes?
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan You know, Mr. Speaker, tonight I will just be a little bit more matter-o f-fact and give thanks to the Almighty for allowing me to sit here in this House, this Honourable House in which I have loved all my life. As a youth parliamentarian in 1974, after I started …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And the only difference in my life’s experience is that had I been of a different persuasion, different outcomes are guaranteed. And that is a fact!
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan But I embrace that. Because I tell persons I am a Higginbotham from St. George’s just as much as I am a Boris from Southampton up there where the Princess is, right there where the Honourable Member , the young Member who just sat down, making his maiden speech, repre-sents. …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point or order? POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Member is re-flecting on a debate which is not appropriate for this debate. This debate is about this Throne Speech not the last one. Thank you.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I am reflecting—th at is a good . . . that is a good shot. I am reflec ting on current events. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I am reflecting on current events.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And, Mr. Speaker, I am reflecting on an Opposition that calls themselves an Opposition-in-wa iting. Because if you called it 17 times in 17 pages for an election, you would hav e been ready. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan What happened, Mr. Speaker? They came out with a pamphlet. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Today they come out with 30-so mething pages! And what I am saying is this: Too little, too late! Too little, too late inasmuch as coming here today and coming out with a litany. Save that for the Budget Debate that is going to come in May so that you …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And so, Mr. Speak er, on that point, and that point alone, it is enough to be of concern. Bermuda House of Assembly But let me just say this, Mr. Speaker . When it comes to some of the things . . . I have heard persons talk about how …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Let me get to this one about growing the economy. And I am going to something that is near and dear to my heart. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan November 1 to April 30. If I have not said this a hundred times in the last two or three months, I have not said it at all. The opportunity to grow Bermuda, to grow income in Bermuda lies in unsold inventory at hotels. It is a fact. And let …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I think the Honourable Member may be unintentionally misleading the public. The Southampton Princess was brought to this House in a quick reading and all of us supported the fact that this thing needed to get done. So for …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I certainly thank you for your utterances of support, but I could yield to the Deputy Leader who I think could remind you of all the many times that you made life very difficult for us as we tried to progress. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes—
The Speaker The Speaker Wait, wait, wait — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I have a point of order, Mr. Speaker . [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I have a point of order. A point of order to the point of order. Mr. Speaker ,— [Inaudible interjections] POINT OF ORDER Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I will gladly bring to this House my file on this …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan All right. Thank you, Deputy.
The Speaker The Speaker You made your point.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Let me go back to November 1 to April 30 because, Mr. Speaker, I do not want it to be lost on anyone that we need to be targeting a number. We need to be targeting. And the number that I put out there is 500 additional visitors a day. …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Walking Through Calvary . . . I had them on my radio show. I will declare my interest. I was part -time here and there as a radio talk show host —more before COVID -19 than now. But we have tourism in focus, and I want to tell you we …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan They stay longer here. And some of them are my age . . . from England. From Ireland. From Scotland. From Wales. From Canada. From the United States. So, Mr. Speaker, when we look at that November to March period that I am talking about repeatedly, repeatedly, and sometimes . …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I got a good hit now. [Laughter] Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: But I ate too much loquats and the gout came and knocked on my door. And I took that medication that a llopurinol and that diclofenac . You used to represent the pharmacies. You …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan But, Mr. Speaker, I think it is important. And I think it is important for Honourable Member s to know, right, that if I were a wealthy man, nobody would be out there calling my name and saying, Why choose this man in tourism? They would not do it if …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Disappointed me greatly. Because I would never . . . last year at this time, Mr. Speaker, I used my own money to bring 25 people here from Britain who were very influential people in the golf industry. But I listened to somebody say, I have solutions, but I would …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I am here today, and I am prepared to share my knowledge with anybody in this country. I learned one thing: I never gave anybody bad advice. It is up to them to recognise if the advice that I have given is good enough coming from me. Because people …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Honourable Member DeCouto, I see you are on your feet. Would you like your 30 minutes?
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes, thank you very much,
Mr. Speaker . The Speaker And I take this is a maiden speech as well.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto It is indeed, and I am very appreciative of this once- in-a-lifetime opportunity.
The Speaker The Speaker Be mindful, Members, that this is a maiden speech. You have your 30 minutes on the clock. MAIDEN SPEECH
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Thank you. I hope I can bring some fraction of the energy of the former Member that spoke.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, you can dance around a little bit like he did. Yes.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto I may also dip into a little bit of history that perhaps a few people in this Chamber might remember. Perhaps not as much as the prior Member, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, the Throne Speech as we would say should be an expression of the Government ’s vision and …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto I am very pleased to see his portrait has arrived upon the wall. For those of you who do not know (and Minister De Silva, I know you will appreciate this too and maybe some others in the Chamber), the first Portuguese Bermudian Speaker. B ermuda House of Assembly An …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto So I think it is important to acknowledge history. I think it is important for Bermuda. It is important for me. And it is probably important for many people in Bermuda. Speaking of Portugues e Bermudians, I would be remiss not to mention my cousin, the Honourable Trevor Moniz, former …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto I would suggest that my cousin Trevor’s political career provides some very good examples of upholding principles and doing the right thing. [Inaudible interjection]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Perhaps not everybody would agree with what he wanted to do— [Laughter]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto But he was certainly known, for example, helping to obtain residency, long-t erm residency permits for Portuguese Bermudians at a time when they perhaps fell through the crac ks of the various immigration systems. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Maiden speech. Maiden speech.
Dr. Douglas DeCouto And as I was saying, Mr. Speaker, I would like to continue, and I would like to acknowledge perhaps the most important examples that were set for me in my parents . They set a s trong sense of right and wrong and being guided by principles—e ven when it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I appreciated some of your history lesson because I was around for some of that time. So let me just add to a point that you made when you pointed out the first Portuguese Speaker. You do realise he became the first Portuguese Speaker because the PLP elected …
The Speaker The Speaker That is the first Speaker that the PLP elected. So make sure the history book is correct on that one. An H on. Mem ber: Ah -ha! [Laughter and i naudibl e interjections ]
Dr. D ouglas D eCouto Mr. S peaker, I have cautioned you that, b ut I c ertainly ap preciate the reminder. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker All right, thank you. And for those who don’t know, go do your research. But that was the first Speaker that the PLP elected. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, with that said, we are now past the magical hour. We started this debate at 2:58. We are now at 9:58 which means that we go into that period where it drops from 30 minutes to 20 minutes for each speech. So the nex t person starting will have …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay, Minister Lightbourne is making her maiden speech, Members. So conduct yourselves accordingly for a maiden speech. Minister, you have your 20 minutes. MAIDEN SPEECH Hon. Alexa Lightbourne: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . This evening I rise to make this first contribution in this Honourable House and deliver my maiden …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No, we are not! Hon. Alexa Lightbourne: And in our new Throne Speech, this is the evidence of the work that we are prepared to do. The country should feel confident knowing that we are willing to evolve. So, in creating a Ministry …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. MP King, I see you have risen to your feet. I assume you would like your 20 minutes.
Mr. Robert King I would, indeed, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Robert King Good evening Honourable Members and listening public. In the Throne Speech it stated that the mission was for a fairer, more affordable and stable Ber-muda. And all in this Honourable House would agree that this is something that we would all hope to aspire to and make happen by whatever …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, we are here with the Governor’s Throne Speech. I appreciate the tone and tenor of the Opposition thus far, but the Honoura-ble Member would know, and this is not his first time speaking, that the Government is not …
The Speaker The Speaker I appreciate the point that the Premier made in that the—
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker —conduct of those things cannot be carried out by Government.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What I am speaking about is essentially our attitudes as it relates to the safety and security of persons in this community. What we will accept is that we are in a crisis, as was mentioned by the Honourable Member on this side of the House, …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, well . . . wait, wait, wait, wait before you rise to that. Is there not a [parliamentary] question that has been put down around that? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, I believe there is a question that has been submitted. So, I would ask you to leave it there. You have already submitted a question, so leave it there.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is late in the day and I am not feeling too well, so . . .
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. [Laughter and inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King I will. I will. I have got more to offer. So, getting back to the issue of youth violence and the increase in serious crimes, we accept that that is an issue. We know that adverse childhood ex-periences if these children do not get the requisite treatment services are going …
Mr. Robert King Well, I suspect that is going to happen. I am suggesting that when we are talking about a fairer Bermuda we need to do everything in our power to make it safer first. Otherwise, we are not going to have a fairer Bermuda at all. Tell that to the families …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Famous, would you like to have your 20 minutes on the clock?
Mr. Christopher Famous Good evening, Mr. Speaker, colleagues, and most importantly the people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I had to look up this word earlier because I — [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher Famous Hold on, hold on. Relax. [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous With your indulgence, Mr. Speaker, I would like to look up— [Inaudible interjections ]
Mr. Christopher Famous It’s your own fleas that bite you the hardest. [Laughter and crosstalk ]
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, the word is “revisionist.” And I said, I know that word from somewhere, but I do not know the definition. So let me look it up because, you know, my Berkeley English ain’t that great. A revisionist is someone who examines and tries to change existing beliefs about …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Who was that?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, y ou know, it is fortuitous (that’s the word, fortuitous, right?) Happy Sabbath, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjection]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member For-t u-it-ous. [Crosstalk]
Mr. Christopher Famous Thank you, Berkeleyite. [Laughter and crosstalk]
Mr. Christopher Famous It is fortuitous that this is March 2025. Does anyone remember where they were nine years ago?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I know what you are doing.
Mr. Christopher Famous Does anyone remember where thousands of Bermudians of all ages were nine years ago? Hmm. People gav e up going to work . People took their children out of school. Grannies c ame away from watching “The Young and the Restless.” Why? Because they k new—n ot they felt, they …
The Speaker The Speaker Montserrat.
Mr. Christopher Famous Montserrat as well. Mr. Speaker, in Anguilla the Government was actually doing a lot of infrastructure work and so on and so forth. But they forgot the people. And they got wiped out. In the Turks and Caicos it was the reverse. They did so much for the people. But …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member September.
Mr. Christopher Famous September, sorry. Thank you, Honourable Member. Just before the bye-election. There was nothing in there about absentee ballots. So, if it was so important, why did it not have it in there at that time? They only raised it once. Okay. But the students raised it. That was the only …
Mr. Scott Simmons I w ould, Mr. Speaker, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead, sir.
Mr. Scott Simmons Mr. Speak er, I will begin where the Honourable Member just left off. But before I do, I would like to take the opportunity to commend the Honourable Member and to mention the time that he has put in on the Caribbean connection throughout our entire group in the work …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You’re welcome, sir.
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you. It says a lot about our Government. And I do believe that here is a lot of work to be done in that space and that is the reason why we are here in this House today discussing Throne Speech 2025. Mr. Speak er, let’s be clear. The …
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you, Honourable Minister. I do not wish to overstress this, or to stress out my colleagues. But I will make this clear. I believe it is important for us to be mindful of that. But it does not preclude us from governing. Mr. Speaker, as a result of that …
Mr. Scott Simmons I realise it is 25 [ minutes ] to 11:00. [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Simmons I am saying that the people of Bermuda expect that we will — [Laughter and general uproar]
Mr. Scott Simmons Mr. Speaker, unfortunately, my colleagues continue to interrupt. I do not appreciate it. This is an important speech. It is a good one. [Laughter and inaudible interjections] 132 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Scott Simmons: We have— [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is 25 [minutes ] to 11:00. I did not realise it until you said it. [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Simmons Mr. Speaker, in order for us to achieve the agenda of the people of Bermuda who have cast a cautionary note to the Government that we want you to govern, but we also want you to be more focused in on what we are doing. And we can appreciate that. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Simmons. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? MP Campbell, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start out by thanking the voters of constituency 9 who exercised their right to vote in the most recent election on 18 Febru-ary, and also thank those who exercised their right not to come out and vote. Mr. Speaker, I …
Mr. Vance Campbell But you know there is going to be a “but”! [Laughter]
Mr. Vance Campbell I will, however, Mr. Speaker reiterate the concern I expressed during last year’s Throne Speech and that is that each improvement has a cost to either the Government or business. And there must be balance, particularly when it comes to businesses. Mr. Speaker, we must sort out the issues that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Deputy Premier. How are you this evening ? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am doing fine, thank you,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Good. You have your 20 minutes on the clock. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. All right. Mr. Speaker, I am going to do something that I don’t really do because as we have had several Members make their maiden speeches today, now that I am in the age …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Still yellow. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: What . . . what . . . what . . . happened? Why did he not fix it? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh yes. Looks like we are going to have some action. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The Honourable Member, obviously , [intentionally] , I think, is misleading the House. We did replace what was causing the yellow water in certain areas, but we never got to finish the project. It looks as if this Government …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh wow. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay? Hon. E. David Burt: Talk about it. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Speaker, we on this side of the House have been putting up with that for years. [Inaudible interjection] 136 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That was a different occasion. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am just . . . I am just saying. I know. I am giving the history. [Crosstalk] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No. But I am saying you had the House surrounded.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Uh-huh. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You had — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —sneaking into the House. [Crosstalk]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member A different time. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: A different time. But these are the types of things — Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter] POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: I am going to take up his time. The Honourable Member is …
The Speaker The Speaker Point taken. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker He was just early to work that day. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, he went early to work. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Early to work. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, I think we should give him and any other Honourable Members that happened to turn up for work that morning at 5:00 am . . . I think we should . . . I should think we should give them …
The Speaker The Speaker Throne . . . Th rone . . . Th rone Re ply. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, sorry. Throne Speech Re ply in my hand. And I want to congratulate them. Th e Honourable Member Jarion Richardson, the Op-position Leader, I would like to congratulate you be-cause …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Is it worth a point of order? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You can point-o f-order it if you like.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Is it worth it? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Now, Mr. Speaker, they did have a few things in the Reply that I feel I need to comment on. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And on the third page, first paragraph, I quote, “This moment calls …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member, can you just wait until I at least acknowledge you? Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: Oh, yes , I will. 138 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Deputy Speaker: Thank you. Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: The Honourable Member is misleading the House. What is that? …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Continue. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: In fact, the Honourable Member Michael Fahy — [General uproar] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —the Honourable Member Michael Fahy was a Senator in 2008 under the UBP , so he was there. He would remember it very, very …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? Any other Members? Premier, it is your turn to reply. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: I do not have the time. You know , I am replying. I am at the end.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Exactly. Hon. E. David Burt: I am closing this out. Madam Deputy Speaker, I would like to start my comments this evening by saying it is an honour to be back here in this House of Assembly, being asked to serve, being elected to serve the people of constituency 18, …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker [INAUDIBLE] Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Deputy Speaker , as we draw this debate on this Throne Speech to a close this evening, I find myself without question amused or in some cases bemused at the Opposition’s latest attempt at a Throne Speech Reply. Now what I will say in …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You know what it feels like. Hon. E. David Burt: I do not know what it feels like, but that is okay. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. E. David Burt: But here is what I will say. It is kind of funny because if there was a theme, it would be If …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order. Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I did not say , What was that like? or whatever he just said. Completely. He is misleading the House. I did not say that.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. [Crosstalk] Hon. L. Craig Cannonier: He just said that. Hon. E. David Burt: Madam Deputy Speaker, he is getting a little bit touchy . But he is my friend, so I am going to leave it alone because he is going to like this one. I know …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Say it ain’t so. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: No! Hon. E. David Burt: It was rejected. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: There has got to be a point of order. Hon. E. David Burt: And we saw what happened following that. Now here is the thing. I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member But they’re not working. Hon. E. David Burt: Now . . . Oh, but see, here is the thing. They said, But they are not working. So, let’s be clear. They proposed the same policies which they are doing, but then they go on to say they are not working. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is the reality . [Crosstalk] Hon. E. David Burt: Ho ld [on] a second. Yes, people are still suffering, but I do not need the OBA. We do not need the OBA to tell us that. We knock on doors, too. But the question is who do they trust …
Mr. Ben Smith Point of order. Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Ben Smith Definitely misleading the House. I have listened to this s everal times. A WhatsApp exchange is not an inv itation.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is not?
Mr. Ben Smith This Minister has said it multiple times, and now I am having to hear it again. This cannot continue. The Minister needs to provide the details of the invitations that we denied.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: So, let’s get this. The Minister of Education writes the Shadow Minister of Education. He does not lik e the method in which he has written, and then he denies that an inv itation was extended. I do not need to go into that, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Wow! A WhatsApp is not an invitation. Hon. E. David Burt: So, let me continue, because there was a lot of talk and fury inside of this Throne Speech [ Reply] r egarding the cost of living. Now let’s talk about this because we all know that cost of liv …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Mr . Scott Pearman: The Honourable Premier and Member is misleading the House. If he would like to explain the difference between price control and pric-ing control, we invite him to do so.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Hon. E. David Burt: There is no misleading. There is no misleading, but I can assure the Honourable Mem-ber that he is concerned that some of his interest may be affected by this. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Uh-oh! Uh- oh! Hon. E. David Burt: But …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive] Mr . Scott Pearman: The Honourable Premier has not addressed my original concern and is now imputing improper motive.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. [Inaudible interjections and l aughter] Hon. E. David Burt: So, here we are, Madam Deputy Speaker. Here we are. So, I remember the debate when this Government created a list of essential goods, set those items to zero per cent duty and what were the complaints from the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is simple to figure out. Hon. E. David Burt: Ahh! He says it is simple to figure out. You can tell me next week in the motion to adjourn how you figure it out. But here is the thing. They say it is simple to figure out, but the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I was reminding you that you have 30 minutes for your reply. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Limited time— [ Inaudible interjection and laughter ] Hon. E. David Burt: I would like to.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Just so that Members know, I recorded the time the Premier — Hon. E. David Burt: What time did I start?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You started at 11:25. Hon. E. David Burt: [At] 11:25! And look at that. [ Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: [At] 11:25 All right. [ Laughter] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: [At] 11:25! [ General uproar] Hon. E. David Burt: Deputy Speaker, I like that one. So back …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Pray tell. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, are you ready?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Pray tell. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, here we are. Change in law does not happen via magic wand. It actually takes time, c onsultation, working through items, and other things. So just s aying it does not mean that it will happen. Now here is the one thing in …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order, Member? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Thank you. The Honourable Premier is misleading the House. That spec ific point was related to insisting that these emerging mark ets and developing businesses had a tangible impact on Bermuda, more specifically including locating s taff into Bermuda.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Hon. E. David Burt: Here is the thing. [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member, you know, k nows a little about this, and he knows fully that Class F and Class M digital as set companies must have staff in Bermuda. And they …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Your point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes, thank you. I was not referring specifically to the Class F licences as issued under the digital asset busines s. As the Premier is aware, there is Class T and Class M. And FinTech includes a number of other related services including Insurtech. So, I was just trying to …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: I look forward to debating FinTech with the Opposition Leader— [Inaudible interjection] Hon. E. David Burt: —b ut we shall continue on this . We have delivered Bermuda’s leadership position in the digital asset mark et despite the protestations of the One …
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Point of order. Hon. E. David Burt: Bu t the reality is that this is what this Government is delivering—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Point of order, Member. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Dr. Douglas DeCouto Yes. Madam Deputy Speak er, we do not protest about FinTech. We protest about FinTech with . . . call it sketchy counter parties. So, the Premier is misleading the House. Let me put it together for you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Member. Premier, you have five minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: I thank you very much. And so, I find it very interesting the Honourable Member from cons tituency 25 is finally taking his Bermuda House of Assembly seat. But I know that Honourable Member knows full well as …
Mr. Jarion Richardson Point of order.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Oh my. Your point of order, Member. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Jarion Richardson Yes. The Honourable Premier is misleading the House. Whilst the Bermuda Monetary Authority does in fact regulate and has a sterling reputation, they do in fact find areas of noncompliance in which case they have to penali se and withdraw licenses. Thank you. [Inaudible interjections]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: Now see? Hold a second. Hold a second. You know when you are striking at them that they are trying to make you run out of your time. But here we go, Madam Deputy Speaker. So, we go to another portion —housing, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is done. Hon. E. David Burt: It is not done yet, so calm yourself—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It is not done here as well . Hon. E. David Burt: Calm yourself. The reality is , Madam Deputy Speaker, as I said. The Opposition’s proposals reflect what is already done. I welcome their Damascus conversion, the things of which they previously opposed but now fully support. I would …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Premier. And I just want to remind Members . After seven hours debating, you move to 20 minutes. It is except for the R eply, which goes to 30 minutes. [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the following message should be sent to the Governor : “May it please Your Excellency that we the Members of the House of Assembly of Bermuda thank Your Excellency for the gracious speech of …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. There are no objections to that, are there? No. T he appropriate message will be sent.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. 146 21 March 2025 Official Hansard Report Ber muda House of Assembly Mr. S peaker, I m ove that t his H onourable House now a djour n until F riday , the 28th of Mar ch.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker No Members speaking? Thank you. Members , we thank you for your participation today in the Reply to the Throne Speech, and we are appreciative that the tone of the debates stayed very upbeat throughout the day. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker I trust that this sets the tone for what this entire session will look lik e. With that said, Members, hav e yourself a restful weekend, and we will see you bac k here next Friday at 10:00 a m. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker The House now stands adjourned. [At 11:56 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 28 March 2025.]
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