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House of Assembly Session 2024/2025 620 speeches

December 13, 2024

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Premier David Burt announced that Bermuda is on track for its first balanced budget in 21 years and presented plans for significant tax reductions in 2025/26, including cutting energy taxes by another 20%, eliminating customs duties on building materials and car parts, and reducing land tax by 50%. The government plans to use new corporate income tax revenues to fund universal healthcare ($50 million) and increased infrastructure spending ($145 million). Ministers also reported on converting closed schools into community facilities and launched a new seniors strategy focusing on healthy aging and support services.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Dec 13, 2024
Session 2024/2025
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Speakers 26
Speeches 620

Key Topics

Government's Pre-Budget Report for 2025/26 with proposed tax cuts and spending plansUpdates on repurposing closed schools for community useNew housing scheme allowing non-Bermudians to buy residential property in HamiltonLaunch of Bermuda's first National Seniors StrategyAir service development and recovery from COVID-19 impacts

Bills & Motions

No bills were debated or voted on in this sitting. The session consisted entirely of ministerial statements presenting government reports and policy announcements for public consultation.

Notable Moments

Premier announced plans for a government-backed cooperative grocery store at former Heron Bay Primary School to introduce competition and reduce food prices
Government will receive an estimated $187 million from new corporate income tax in 2025, enabling major tax cuts while maintaining fiscal responsibility
National debt projected to fall from 36% to 23% of GDP by 2027/28

Debate Transcript

620 speeches from 26 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. The Clerk will lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner , Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker The House is now in session. [Pause] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 6 December 2024 ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of the 6th of December have been circulated. Are there any amendments required? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 6 December 2024 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker The following Members have indicated that they will be absent today: the Honourable Deputy Speaker [Derrick Burgess], MP Susan Jackson, MP Ben Smith and MP Jamahl Simmons have all indicated their absence for today. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker We have two this morning. Mr. Premier, would you like to present yours? PRE- BUDGET REPORT IN ADVANCE OF FISCAL YEAR 2025 /26 Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister of Economy and Labour. APPROVED HAMILTON RESIDENTIAL SCHEMES (AHRS) GUIDELINES Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Approved Hamilton Residential Schemes [AHRS] guidelines.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker We have seven this morning. The first is in the name of the Premier and Minister of Finance. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. FISCAL YEAR [2024/25] UPDATE Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , I rise today to address this Honourable House and the people of Ber-muda by providing an update on the Government ’s 296 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly fiscal performance and to share …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Bermuda House of Assembly CLOSED SCHOOLS UPDATE
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I am pleased to report on the future use of closed and soon- to-be-closed schools and to give a look forward. T. N. Tatem Middle School
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , in April 2019 , the Minister of Education announced the permanent closure of the T. N. Tatem Middle School , and responsibility for its use reverted to the Ministry of Public Works. Mr. Speaker , as I reported then, the buildings could not simply remain shuttered while …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , the next school to close was the Heron Bay Primary School. While s everal options have been considered, the Government has decided to establish a sustainable government -backed co- operative grocery store to introduce competition into the local food market to reduce overall food prices in Bermuda …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , Clearwater Middle School has also temporarily closed as a Middle School with the long -term plan to convert it to a senior school. The school remains under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Education who have indicated that it will be temporarily repurposed for use as a …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , Gilbert Institute is scheduled for closure next year. The Government has decided to convert this site into a Seniors Care facility , having first considered Heron Bay . The Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors, under w hich this will fall , is already collaborating with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. APPROVED HAMILTON RESIDENTIAL SCHEMES GUIDELINES Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am honoured to present to this Honourable House the Approved Hamilton Residential Scheme Guidelines. These Guidelines outline the application process for the Approved Hamilton Residential Schemes and detail the additional information and criteria that will be considered …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Youth, Social Development and Seniors. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. NATIONAL SENIORS STRATEGY 2024 –2030 — “CELEBRATING LIFE AND AGEING WELL” Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good Morning, Honourable Members and fellow Bermudians, Today I am honoured to announce the launch of Bermuda’ s first National Seniors Strategy. It brings me great pride to share the progress made in fulfilling …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister. AIR SERVICE DEVELOPMENT UPDATE Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the opportunity to speak before this Honourable House and the people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker , as we approach …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. MENTAL WELL -BEING: PRIORITIS ING SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON Hon. Kim N. Wilson: The Christmas holiday is a time to embrace the joy of togetherness, share meals and traditions, and bask in the warmth of the season. For many, it is a festive time of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the final Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister for the Cabinet [Office]. Minister, go ahead. DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING INFORMATION AND UPDATES Hon. Crystal Caesar: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to remind this Honourable House of the critical role …
Mr. N eville S. T yrrell Thank y ou, Mr . Speaker. G ood morning, c olleagues. Mr. Speaker, in the absence of the Deputy Speaker and on behalf of the Standing Orders and Privileges Committee, I submit for the information of the Members of this Honourable House the report. And I will quote a portion …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Government Whip, for standing in for the Deputy [Speaker]. We appreciate that. PREMIER’S QUESTION PER IOD 308 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Members, that now moves us on to the Question Period. And today is the second Friday of the month. …
The Speaker The Speaker There you go.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes. By the looks of things, very close. Today’s Statements. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I apologise for the Leader’s not feeling well. We know that the flu has been going around, and certainly he does not want any of us to be afflicted by the same. QUESTION 1: CLEAN AIR AMENDMENT ACT, POSSIBLE DELAY OF
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier My first question then would be, Mr. Speaker, considering the revelation this morning gazetted by the Bermuda Clean Air Coalition [BCAC], we are just wondering if the Premier, considering the major concerns that have been voiced today by the BCAC, would entertain delaying this Clean Air Amendment Act at this …
The Speaker The Speaker I will just clarify for everybody. It is a matter on the Order Paper, so we normally do not address it.
The Speaker The Speaker But your question is, Would he consider delaying it?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That is correct. Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker So, I am expecting that it is not getting into the gist of the Bill that will be discussed.
The Speaker The Speaker You are just asking if it would be delayed?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, thank you for that clarification. Of course it was on the Order Paper, so that question would be typically out of order. But let me try to recite the history on this, Mr. Speaker. This Bill has been a long time coming. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: The Cabinet decided to delay the Bill in regard to the letters of which they had sent to us and the protestation which they have made. We took those on board, strengthened the Bill further and we will be proceeding with this Bill. It is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Second question or supplementary? Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 2: NATIONAL SPORTS CENTRE SOLAR PROJECT
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will go to the second question. And thank you for that answer. There has been a project going on for some time now, the solar project at the National Sports Cen-tre. And taking into consideration that there have been updates, [we are] just wondering . …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary. Considering the fact that this has been a major project going on for some time now —someone said years now—we understand that Government was to give . . . has Government had to extend finances to get this project to completion? Hon. E. David Burt: The Minister of …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary or third question? QUESTION 3: OARRS SETTLEMENT
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. I will go to my third question. Back in May of 2022 it was announced that a settlement had been made with Oarrs. And two years now we still are not aware of how much that settle-ment was with Oarrs. I am wondering if the Premier could let …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or — SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Supplemental. I recognise that Government does not go into court settlements too often. So, who was the Minister in May of 2022, Finance Minister? Hon. E. David Burt: I was the Minister of Finance in May 2022. That much I can assure you.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Your second supplementary.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Supplementary. So then considering the fact that not too many settlements are made in court by the Finance Minister, would he consider that a bit odd that he does not remember what the settlement would be?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. 2Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, what I will say is that he is saying it is May 2022. I know that I was not dealing with this particular matter in my time. But as I have undertaken to try to get information, I am sure there are technical …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. I think you have asked your two supplementaries and your three questions. So, thank you for your questions, Opposition Whip, on behalf your Leader. The next Member who has questions is MP Campbell. MP Campbell, would you like to put your questions? QUESTION 1: GOVERNMENT HOUSE, COMPLETION OF …
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, given that the current Governor is soon to depart, and we are expecting to have a new Governor, I was wondering if the Honourable Premier can provide us with an update on the works at Government House and the expected completion date of those …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: That, Mr. Speaker, is one that I did prepare for. And I received a recent update on that particular matter. I know that the bid went out for the replacement of the roof, the contract. I know that the tenders were received. I believe the …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Vance Campbell Yes, Mr. Speaker. If I can switch to the current residence or the temporary residence where the Governor is residing. Can the Premier provide us with the length of the lease on that property?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: The lease on that property is until next November.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary?
Mr. Vance Campbell Yes, Mr. Speaker. Can the Premier provide us with the current rent on that property and what was the previous rent being paid on that property?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I do not want to give an exact number that may be incorrect. The Minister of Public Works said he is not sure of the exact number. But unquestionably it is a significant property and a significant rent, as it must be for …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. You used your one question and two supps already. Thank you for your participation. The next question this morning for the Premier is from MP Swan. MP Swan, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: BERMUDA’S ECONOMY UPDATE
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes. Good morning, and thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Opposition continues to speak negatively about our Island’s current state specifically in relation to Bermuda’s economy, with one MP recently being quoted as speaking of our Island’s impending economic collapse. Can the Premier please provide this Honourable House with …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. QUESTION 3: OARRS SETTLEMENT [additional answer] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, before I address that particular question, having spoken to the Honourable Member from constituency 21, the former Minister of Finance, it is correct that the settlement was entered under my time as Minister …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, one supplementary, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Premier for that answer. I did notice those big birds as I was driving in from the glorious east and was quite taken aback to see them back. Mr. Speaker, could the Honourable Premier provide further insight into how the Government’s …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the country’s strong economic performance is no accident. And it is a re-sult of deliberate planning and leadership by this Government, driven first by the Economic Recovery Plan, which was put together under the auspices of the Honourable Member for constituency 21, the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No further questions from the Member. The next question this morning is from MP King. MP King, would you like to put your question?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Here we go.
Mr. Robert King Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and Honourable Members and the listening public.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Here we go.
Mr. Robert King So. [Laughter] QUESTION 1: AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, LACK OF
Mr. Robert King Mr. Premier, sir. Statements are being made about the health of the economy in Bermuda. And a number of indicators would suggest that that is actually the case. However, when we have not had audited financial statements in quite a long time, how are we or the public to truly …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, just if I may ask the Honourable Member to withdraw that particular statement and question. It is non- factual and the House will record that we did audited financial statements before. And audited financial statements are done. Those audited financial statements come from …
The Speaker The Speaker Member, the Premier has acknowledged the fact that there are audited statements, and they have been tabled in this House. And your question implied that there had not been any audited statements. So, he is stating that factually the question was in error because audited statements have been tabled in …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members, let him talk to the Chair. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Robert King Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Speaker. What I am speaking to, and I will make the point, is that what we are talking about is the health of the country as a whole in terms of the financial, et cetera, in terms of the actual audited accounts across government …
Mr. Robert King The other thing that —
The Speaker The Speaker The Premier can answer. It is fine. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, that is supplementary. And he has again demonstrated that he does not understand the way that finances work. Every ministry is audited by the Auditor General in the Consolidated Fund Financial Statements which were tabled in this …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Premier is misleading the House. The Auditor General has in fact indicated that there are a number of outstanding audited statements including some that go back 10 years, including the seized assets fund. Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, so we are clear, the Honourable Member …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. You have one supplementary left.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: He has got a shovel tied to his hands. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King Oh! It sounds like we are inciting violence here.
The Speaker The Speaker Members! QUESTION 2: CORPORATE INCOME TAX
Mr. Robert King Good morning again, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Premier, Minister of Finance, said that we are going to make a debt repayment of $605 million in 2027. Based on the statement it would appear that the corporate income tax that we are hopeful will bear the fruits that we have anticipated …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, true to form, doom and gloom all the time. So while the Premier of the country is engaged in conversation and discussions with members of the OECD, while the international business community praises the Government of Bermuda for the way in which it …
Mr. Robert King Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. E. David Burt: —knows that what he is saying is false, Mr. Speaker. If he asks the question, he should wait for the answer, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Robert King Mr. Speaker, I did not say that the corporate income tax would not —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What’s your point of order? [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King No, no, no. He is basically saying that—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What is your point of order? 314 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Members!
Mr. Robert King He is misleading the House, Mr. Speaker. He is misleading. There it is. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Members. Narrow on to what is your point. What is your point?
Mr. Robert King I did not say . . . The point of order is that he is unintentionally misleading the House. I did not say that the corporate income tax would not result in revenue. My point was that the projected amount of revenue that it is going to bring into this …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, I will give you the opportunity to respond to that. Hon. E. David Burt: Please allow me to respond to this point of order. Again, incorrect, false. We have laid out the projections, which have come from the accounting firms that were inside of our budget in 2024/25. It …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, Members! The Member has completed his allotted questions. The next question this morning would be from MP Jason Wade. MP Wade.
Mr. Jason Wade Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Members! Members! QUESTION 1: FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND CHILD DAY CARE ALLOWANCE, UPDATE ON HOW FAMILIES HAVE BENEFITED
Mr. Jason Wade Mr. Speaker, could the Honourable Premier please provide an update on the Govern-ment’s efforts to enhance Bermuda’s Financial Assis-tance programmes, particularly the recent expansion on the Child Day Care Allowance support. How have these reforms impacted Bermudian families?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, before I answer this question, I want to certainly pay tribute to that Honourable Member, who I know has been in his constituency putting forward matters that are related to this. And when I say that, I know that that Honourable Member has …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Premier. Members, that brings us to a close of the Premier’s Questions. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker We now start the period of the normal question period, which begins now. And that is 60 minutes for that period. The questions this morning are from Statements, we have Members who wish to put questions to the Premier on his Statement this morning. And that first question comes from …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Notwithstanding the potential surplus the Premier spoke of in his Statement, what is the approximate cost of collections to Government concerning all of the reductions that he mentioned that we would foresee coming for 2025/26?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I thank the Honourable Member for his question. I will happily refer him to page 6 of the PreBudget Report, which was tabled in this Honourable House and should be on the SharePoint system, because I think that it is important to note …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary, I guess. I am looking on page 6. I did not see the $45 million on there. I do not see that. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Page 6? [Pause]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier What? Oh, that is the PreBudget Report. Oh! That is not your Statement. Okay. Okay. Yes, I was looking for it in the Statement, but it is in [the] report. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Any further questions? No further. Okay. All right. Thank you. Premier, you also have questions from MP King. MP King, would you like to put your questions? QUESTION 1: FISCAL YEAR [2024/25] UPDATE AND PRE -BUDGET REPORT [2025/26]
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know in the Ministerial Statement, the Premier and Finance Minister talked about zero per cent duty relief for the construction industry. Excellent! Absolutely we are in support of that. I am also mindful of the fact that reductions in import duties on uniforms and essential …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I thank the Honourable Member for his question. Again, I am just going to have to try to learn him up a little bit. Because it is important to note when speaking about retail, in the last budget, in our re-forms to payroll …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? [Pause]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Now . . . SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Robert King Listen for it. Mr. Speaker, the supplemental will be this. I am hoping that while the subsequent supplemental question is — [Laughter]
Mr. Robert King Will consideration be given to zero per cent taxation import duties on clothing and other items the same way for construction materials? Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I will help this Honourable Member to understand the budget process. As I stated very clearly inside of the PreBudget Report, these matters are open for consultation. But let me give a little bit more insight, Mr. Speaker, into the process for putting …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Thank you. Premier, with this reduction in construction duties, you mentioned that it would be very helpful to many Bermudians, which we all realise. But, Mr. Premier, would you agree that this reduction in construction materials would—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Declare your interest. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I will declare my interest. Would you agree, Mr. Premier, that this would also more than likely create many more jobs for Bermudians in this sector?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, as covered in my Statement, any time you reduce taxes you spur eco-nomic growth and activity. And given the amount of tax reductions of which this Government has placed inside this economy, it is no surprise that we are able, the Minister of …
Mr. Vance Campbell I am always smiling! Hon. E. David Burt: But what I will say, Mr. Speaker, is that this is significant because this is what is neces-sary to advance the policy directions for the Government. Affordable housing is a critical issue. The reme-diation of vacant and derelict units, the renovation and …
The Speaker The Speaker MP King, do you have a second supplementary? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Premier, that brings to a close to Members who had questions for yourself. We now move on. Minister of Works. There are questions that a Member would like to put to you, as well. MP King. Would you like to put those questions? [Inaudible interjection and laughter]
Mr. Robert King That is cute. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair. Speak to the Chair. QUESTION 1: CLOSED SCHOOLS UPDATE
Mr. Robert King Thank you. Yes. Good day, Mr. Speaker. Regarding the repurposing of schools and the revenues that are being collected from them. The question I have is, How are those monies allocated? Are they going to Bermuda Housing Corporation or are they going to the education programmes? Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, first I should say that I have a slight dilemma. You will know that you received two Statements from me for delivery this morning. And I have read the incorrect one. But let me just say this. So there are two things in it that would be different. …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch In relation to the question that was asked about revenue from schools. Any revenue from schools, whether they are open or closed, goes into the consolidated fund.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Oh. Okay. Thank you. Minister, that was the only question for you this morning. The next Statement that has a question this morning is from the Minister of Youth, Social Development and Seniors. MP King would like to put a question to you. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker MP, you have the floor. QUESTION 1: NATIONAL SENIORS STRATEGY 2024 –2030 “CELEBRATING LIFE AND AGEING WELL”
Mr. Robert King Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Regarding the senior strategy, the question I have is, Who is going to provide oversight and accountability for the senior strategy to make sure it achieves its aims?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 318 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly I did speak of this in the Ministerial Statement. So if we just opened our ears and listened a little bit.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh, no! [Inaudible interjections and laughter] [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker It is always worth repeating. It is always worth repeating if it is good stuff. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I just mentioned that there will be a programme manager hired. And that the Ministry Youth, Social Development and Seniors will be responsible for making sure the different ministries’ organisations …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What is the budget that is going to be allocated to the Senior Strategy implementation?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to that Member for asking that question. As with any strategy that is put forward to the country, these are strategies or action items that have already been en train. As the project goes along, Mr. Speaker, the budget requirements …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Robert King Yes, Mr. Speaker. So, is it my understanding that the Senior Strategy, strategic plan, does not include an actual budget for the services that are being suggested? Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I always wonder when the Opposition asks questions like this, where are they living? We come to this House many times, Mr. Speaker, indicating how we spend our money, particularly as it relates in the social sector, as well as our seniors. We do …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Member, you used your two supplementaries. Do you have a second question? Okay, thank you. Minister, that completes the questions for you this morning. We have questions for a further Statement that is by the Minister of Transport. Minister MP Pearman would like to put questions to …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, thank you. I am glad to see the Premier says he has not heard from me. He might have forgotten my point of order when I said he was misleading the House.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman, put your question. QUESTION 1: AIR SERVICE DEVELOPMENT UPDATE
Mr. Scott Pearman Honourable Minister, thank you. In your Statement today you identified that increased airlift to our Island is (quote) “critical.” And we agree. You identified available seats in 2018 as being 611,000. You identified that last year, 2023, we had 433,000. That is a difference of 145,000. So there were 145,000 …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, let me make it very clear that not only do we see as far as filling that gap, but we also see the position of increasing that gap as far as the number of more airline lifts coming in, as we have continued …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, supplementary. In relation to filling that 145,000 gap, you said on page 7 of your Statement that you had discussions with British Airways. Is there any scope for expansion in the number of days that they fly or the routes that they fly or the seats on …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the discussions are still going on. But we hope to have that.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary. I wish you well in the discussions. And my second supplementary is, in relation to the British Airways flights as currently exist, does the Honourable Minister have any indication as to whether or not those flights might return so they dock at the gate of the airport as …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am seeing a quizzical look. I meant the Heathrow site. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have been asked to repeat the question. The question is, During your discussions with British Airways, is there any indication as to whether or not we might see a return to where the British Airways flight from Bermuda to Heathrow docks at an arm into …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second question?
Mr. Scott Pearman No second question. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you. Members, that brings us to a close of the Question Period this morning. We will now move on to the next item on the Order Paper. Let me reset the clock here. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member like to make a— Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will start on a happy note first. I would like— as strange as it is for me to extend congratulations —to extend congratulations to Skyport. I wish to extend …
The Speaker The Speaker George. 320 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: And George. Thank you very much. It slipped from my head. And I just wanted to make sure to express condolences on behalf of certainly this side. But I do not want to be …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. MP Foggo, would you like to make a contribution at this time?
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes. Sorry. Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Even though the Premier has stolen some of my thunder. [Laughter]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo But firstly, let me express condolences to the Furbert -Anderson family. Last week I failed to mention that . . . I would like to associate Member Kim Swan and Member Renee Ming, who is a family member to her cousin who passed away at quite a young age last …
The Speaker The Speaker That is correct.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo And I want to be associated with those condolences. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, please let me associate myself to the congratulatory remarks made by the Premier regarding the schools who did participate in the singoff, and the finalists for each category. They again did a superb job and acquitted themselves …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo All right. I am sorry. I did forget to associate the Minister of Education. They did a phenomenal job. It should be, rightly so, highlighted in this House today. So on that note, Mr. Speaker, I will take my seat. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Foggo. MP Richardson, would you like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good morning, Mr. Speaker and to those in the listening audience. I hope it is not a shock to everyone, but I want to start on a very, very sad note. That is to extend condolences to the family of Ms. T irena Robins, or Tirena B elboda. She was …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Myself.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Just a tremendous, tremendous friend I have known for quite a while. She was, actually I would say, a creative before we started calling people creatives . Very, very artistic, very, very committed. Very family oriented and very, very consistent. Also a businessperson. As a female person, quite surprisingly, had …
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Associate myself.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, I associate MP Ianthia Simmons -Wade also. Mr. Speaker, I want to also acknowledge on a very positive note, this person is very, very committed. A very high level of stamina. He actually went aged 80 years old on December 3. He has tremendous service to Bermuda. He was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. [Timer chimes]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to have congratulations sent to a few people. First of all, Mr. Bob Corrao from Glebe Hill and Tucker’s Town, who singlehandedly initiated the resurrection or saving of the Bermuda Goodwill Golf Tournament, of which I owe a great deal …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Minister Caesar, would you like your three minutes? Hon. Crystal Caesar: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. Crystal Caesar: Mr. Speaker, I would like to speak on something positive that has happened in our community with some young people, specifically the three female recipients of grants from the Bermuda Arts Council: Ms. Johnae Tucker is studying acting at the London School of Musical …
The Speaker The Speaker Associate the whole House. Hon. Crystal Caesar: I associate the whole House. And I thank her very much for her contributions to the arts scene and culture in Bermuda. Thank you, Madam President.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Pearman, would you like your three minutes?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on a sad note I would like to offer condolences to the Gray family on the loss of Ms. Gillian Gray in her 86 th year. Ms. Gray will be known by some as the wife of Allan Gray, who of course was the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. Members, we are looking at the clock right now timewise. My question is, Are there many more people who would like to give remarks under condolences and congratulations? Well, if there are many more, I would suggest that we take the break at this time and …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. The House now stands adjourned until 2:00 pm. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:31 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:04 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. I trust everyone enjoyed their lunch period and are ready to start another session. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker The House is now in session. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES [Continuation thereof]
The Speaker The Speaker For those in the listening audience, when we broke for lunch we were still on the con-gratulatory and obituary remarks. And I believe there were at least a handful of Members who indicated that they still wanted to contribute. Who would like to be the first Member? MP Adams, you …
Mr. Jache Adams I will not be that long, Mr. Speaker, but I would be remiss if I did not also associate myself with the condolences to [the family of] Ms. Brown, the mother of the late Walton Brown. Well, we have already associated the House. Believe it or not, she was my …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP, Junior Minister. Minister Furbert, would you like to make a contribution? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. Tinee Furbert: I also would like to be associated with the remarks for Ms. Brown. Again, like we heard already, a Progressive Labour Party die- hard actually. I just saw a recent video of her. Her granddaughter recorded her speaking about a particular issue, and she …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member? MP Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much. Mr. Speaker, I certainly want to be associated with the condolences sent for the Brown family. I did not know Ms. Brown quite well, but certainly I was a lot more familiar with her sons, whom I had much time with. So, …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Whip. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, I would like to give congratulations to Aaron Spencer, Jr. Mr. Aaron Spencer is a young Bermudian who just returned home from university, and he has passed the CPA exams. And he did it the first time around; he was successful in passing the CPA exams. I would …
Mr. Wayne Caines Absolutely. Actually, he is following in his father’s footsteps. And then, Mr. Speaker, I would just like to congratulate Pastor Leroy Bean. Pastor Leroy Bean has recently earned his doctorate, Doctor in Philosophy Degree in Counselling and Psychology with a concentration in trauma and crisis counselling from Regent University in …
Mr. Wayne Caines And we over the years developed such a rapport. I would come, we would take our Christmas basket, spend time with her. And she would say, Mr. Caines, I must tell you I’m liking you more and more. But I’m still an OBA supporter. And we would have a laugh, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would like to first off with condolences to the Francis family on the passing of their matriarch, Ms. Gloria Francis of Newcastle Lane, which is just off of Hermitage Road. Ms. Francis was the mother of Wanda and Velda. Velda was a Francis; she married a …
Mr. Christopher Famous Thank you. I did not get a chance to listen to them.
Mr. Wayne Caines Point of order, Mr. Speaker. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Wayne Caines [The Honourable Member] is inadvertently misleading the House, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member They won!
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker. So, I just want to congratulate The Berkeley Institute and all Berkeleyites, once again showing that green and gold work together to beat everybody else. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other — Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Just a brief association, Mr. Speaker, with the condolences given to the mother of our late colleague, Walton Brown. Certainly, for the PLP, Walton’s spirit is still with us in many ways because he was such a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy Premier. Bermuda House of Assembly Does any other Member? MP [Rev. Dr. Emilygail] Dill, you have the floor. Those hyphens got me mixed up that time. Go ahead.
Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Good afternoon. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to offer some condolences on the part of, there have been several individuals in our constituency, constituency 36, who have passed over the recent weeks. And I would like to offer condolences and ask if letters can be sent to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member? Any other Member? Mr. Whip . . . no, I already called on Mr. Whip. I saw you up for a second time there. No other Members. Before we move on, I would just like to add a couple of comments to the remarks …
The Speaker The Speaker She will be turning 99 tomorrow if memory serves me correctly. I would like for her to know that this House is recognising her for her mile-stone in age and looking forward to being able to again next year when that real milestone comes about. But this whole House sends …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS 326 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker For the listening public, the first order of business this afternoon is the second reading of the Corporate Entities (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act 2024, in the name of the Junior Minister of Finance. Junior Minister.
Mr. Jache Adams Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Corporate Entities (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act 2024 be now read the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections to that? There are none. Continue. BILL SECOND READING CORPORATE ENTITIES (MISCELLANEOUS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Corporate Entities (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act 2024 to this Honourable House. This Bill proposes amendments to several corporate laws, namely, the Companies Act 1981, the Limited Liability Company Act 2016, the Exempted Partnerships Act 1992 and the Overseas Partnership Act 1995. And these …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. Scott Pearman And I thank the Honourable Junior Minister for his presentation to the House on this Bill. Let me start by declaring an interest. I am a member of the law firm that has other lawyers who have advised on this together, doubtless with many other lawyers in Bermuda. So, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. Does any other Member wish to make a comment? None other. Junior Minister.
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the Honourable Member for his comments. I think we are all in alignment with that. So, with that, I move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Foggo. [Pause] House in Committee at 2:30 pm [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Chairman ] COMMITTEE ON BILL CORPORATE ENTITIES (MISCELLANEOUS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Members, we are now in Committee on the Bill entitled Corporate Entities (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act 2024 . Junior Minister.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I would like to move clauses 1 through 5.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 5 be considered. Any objections? There being none, Junior Minister.
Mr. Jache Adams Madam Chairman, c lause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends the Companies Act 1981 to require local companies, exempted compan ies and to permit companies to forward information to the Registrar as to whether they are Bermuda constituent entities for purposes of the CIT Act. Clause …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Junior Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to clauses 1 through 5? There being none. Junior Minister.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I move that all clauses be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that all clauses be approved. Are there any objections? There are none. Continue. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 5 passed.]
Mr. Jache Adams Madam Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Any objections? There are none. 328 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Continue.
Mr. Jache Adams Madam Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections? There are none. Thank you, Junior Minister. [Motion carried: The Corporate Entities (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act 2024 was considered by a Committee of the whole House and passed without amendment.] House resumed at …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled Corporate Entities (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act 2024 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. It has been reported. That moves us to the next item on the Order Paper. That item is the second reading of the Clear Air …
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. BILL SECOND READING CLEAN AIR AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good afternoon to Members. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to introduce the Bill entitled the Clear Air Amendment Act 2024. The Bill seeks to amend the Clear Air Act 1991 to ensure that Bermuda maintains the …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that? MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As before, I can be relatively brief. This is a Bill which in principle is about clean air. But as we can see from the media reports this morning, is also about hot water. The clean air part is easy. We have got a Clean Air …
Mr. Scott Pearman And I understand that MP De Silva is offering some learned information on when regulations are supposed to come in relation to legislation. No doubt he can illuminate us all when he takes to his feet later on. The problem for legislators, Mr. Speaker, is how can we vote on …
Mr. Scott Pearman Again, I am now getting further chipping- in from MP De Silva, and again no doubt he will share his learning on this matter when he gets up to speak. So, there are three concerns (or at least distilling this article, which is a very lengthy article, down to three …
Mr. Scott Pearman They are these: • They invite the Ministry to immediately post-pone today’s vote until the legislation is fit for purpose. • They ask for simultaneous update to both the Clear Air Amendment Act and the Clean Air Amendment Regulations. • They ask to allow the Bermuda public to view the …
Mr. Scott Pearman It was in the paper. I would think that MP De Silva might have been paying close atten-tion to the paper this week, but that is something— Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I think the Honourable Member may be misleading the House unintentionally, because he said it was put out in the paper today. But he is not reading from the newspaper. It looks like it might have been …
Mr. Scott Pearman I can put any concern on the part of MP De Silva to rest. This is my printout from the paper. But because I am an environmentalist at heart, I took the liberty of removing the photographs before printing it to keep it on fewer sheets of paper. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman But there you go. But there we go. Mr. Speaker, with those questions, both the three specific questions that I posed and the five questions that are posed on behalf of the Bermuda Clean Air Coalition, I welcome further answers from the Bill. Again, I leave the Honourable Minister with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Minister Furbert. You have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a privilege and an honour to be able to speak to this topic, particularly the Clean Air Amend-ment Bill that is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time. There are none? Minister of Health, you have the floor. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Allow me just a few moments to support my friend and Honourable Minister to the right with …
The Speaker The Speaker I’m sorry? Hon. Kim N. Wilson : I would like to just to speak on three quick points as it relates to this insofar as the impact that this Bill will have particularly, as I said, on health and safety. That is (1) with respect to human well-being, (2) with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? None other? Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: I certainly thank you for allowing me to weigh in on this debate today. Mr. Speaker, in 2019, I was elected to the House of Assembly as a Member of Parliament. And I was elected in constituency 17, which is Pembrook Central. The largest issue that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Campbell, you have the floor.
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the Minister of Health for her comments linking the particles and contaminants in our air to asthma and COPD. Like many, I have family members who suffer from both. And sometimes it is easy or sometimes we can forget …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Campbell. MP Caines, would you like to make your contribution at this time?
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker .
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, I must declare my interest as is —
The Speaker The Speaker Customary.
Mr. Wayne Caines —customary in our House. I am the president of Liberty which includes BELCO. I am here today in the position as the MP for Devonshire North West. And so, Mr. Speaker, I know there is a part of my discourse where I must thread a needle. I sought advice and …
The Speaker The Speaker Will do.
Mr. Wayne Caines Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I have had the opportunity to review the legislation. I believe that it is indeed fit for purpose. When one considers legislation and the leg340 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly islation [under] these circumstances, one has to consider …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ooh. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Wayne Caines Well done. I will be here all afternoon. Minister Wilson just gave me kudos for that pun, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker You woke folks up that time. They are all smiling.
Mr. Wayne Caines Thank you, sir. Listen, I think that— [Inaudible interjection and laughter ]
Mr. Wayne Caines I am not going to be able to make it through that. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, I think that . . . in conclusion, I think that the legislation . . . we are going in the right direction. As I often say in different courses that we are not going to fine our way out of this. Companies that come to Bermuda . …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member . . . Opposition Whip.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker [Microphone off ]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I will take the whip part. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I will not keep us long. There is a consensus that I do hear here that something needs to happen. And as I was listening to the Honourable Member Hayward speak to his constituency and the challenges, I do feel for him as . . . not just as a …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It is very much a real challenge that we do have. And I accept the fact that it is not acceptable for anyone to have to come home, to have to deal with the contamination of what I consider to be one of the wonders of the world in how …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier When it says “plant” it is not talking about a tree. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And gas stations too!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh, wow.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I was just going to get to that. Don’t . . . let me finish. Let me finish! [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It will affect all of that. We have seen where we have had challenges down at Ferry Reach with the fumes coming from Ferry Reach. Certainly not from the local stations — [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier From the plant in and of itself challenges there. And I can recall an instance where people, residents —and it was around Christmas time, too, a couple of years ago—were getting a foul smell, and someone was not quite keeping up with their maintenance. So, it is important that we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP, Opposition Whip. [Does] any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous. 344 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Christopher Famous: I am going to start off with the topic of . . . degree of . . . [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous What, what? I need . . . I am going to start off with a degree of technical incest.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh! Goodness.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, inside of this House at this very moment, there are four cousins. Well, four persons who are related to each other somehow or the other. One happens to be the MP for the area.
Mr. Christopher Famous One happens to be the president of the company.
Mr. Wayne Caines You guys didn’t know Jason was my cousin in’it.
Mr. Christopher Famous One happens to be the Minister responsible for legislation. And one happens to actually know what is going on. [Laughter and crosstalk ]
Mr. Christopher Famous So that cousin is going to declare his interest as someone — [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous —who has worked inside the plant for 32 years. Mr. Speaker, I have worked at BELCO for 32 years, and I have never heard the number of complaints about BELCO . . . not necessarily the prices, but the other stuff, as I have heard in the last four years.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Uh-oh.
Mr. Christopher Famous Legitimate complaints. All right? People have soot on their roof or whatever else. Those are legitimate complaints and BELCO has done a very good job, a very expensive job, in keep-ing people’s roofs white. Mr. Speaker, sometimes it is important to know what goes on on the inside, not just …
Mr. Christopher Famous So, you see, Mr. Speaker, we have certain procedures that we see in the plant that I am sure if the president tells me, Don’t say it , I ain’t going to say it.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, let me caution that the president did come speak to me to ask for some leeway. And I have guided him on how far he could and could not go.
The Speaker The Speaker So, I am going—
Mr. Christopher Famous So, may I have some leeway, Mr. Speaker ?
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to ask you to be mindful with that — [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Keep it public and [do] not get into private—
Mr. Christopher Famous No, no, no, no, no. Nothing like that. Technical. It is all technical. So, you see, Mr. Speaker, there is this thing we do to maintain the turbines. We call it water washing. We call it nut shelling. Where we keep the soot off the turbines. And ever since these …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Uh-oh.
Mr. Christopher Famous Opacity means like how clear are the emissions. If it is a certain, if it goes . . . not just your eyesight, but if by scientific values it says this has gone above a certain opacity we shut the engine down.
Mr. Wayne Caines Danger, danger.
Mr. Christopher Famous If the wind is blowing to the north, we don’t start the engine. We don’t start that particular engine. Because if we start it, just like when your car starts you get this puff of smoke come out, you get that puff of smoke and it is going to be …
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, right? So that means irrespective of those 200 persons in Mount Hill, the other 35,800 people still want their electricity. So, we have to provide that. We cannot say look we are rationing electricity because, you know, the wind is blowing to the north. So, I say the reality …
Mr. Christopher Famous This has to come from fossil fuels. So, I am going to round it off here to say, the one cousin that knows what is happening is telling people we are doing our part. We have changed our operation procedures to mitigate the particulate that goes out in the air. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Well done.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this Bill. My neighbouring MP, the Minister of Economy and Labour, who is the MP for my family, has basically said all that needs to be said around this, as [have] …
Mr. Speaker . The Speaker Thank you. MP Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I would like to also echo the Premier in supporting the legislation. But it would be lost on me not to mention that before fuel gets to BELCO it arrives in St. George’ s.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hmmm.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And when that fuel arrives in St. George’s , there are residents in Ferry Reach, as the Government Whip alluded to briefly, who smell the fuel when it is leaving sometimes the ship, the Mus-cat, I think. They call me Muskee up in White Hill, but the Muscat . Not …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And noise.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And thank you, Honourable—and the noise as well. So, we have great empathy for what they have to endure— in the national interest. In the national interest. So, legislation such as this coming forward with regulations as we go forward is of very great importance. I mean, just to share …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member want to make a contribution at this time? None? Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to all the Members who have given contributions to this discussion. In the spirit that this legislation exists, it was very important to hear from …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —detailed information about that. There is an accusation that was made that we have failed to follow WHO guidelines. But here are the facts around the WHO guidelines. The WHO is not a governing body at all around air quality. They are not—and in any …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Because we spent . . . we had to actually delay because we had a nearly 100-page document . . . we had a . . . we had 160 pages of documents that we needed to carefully review to make sure that we were …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, Minister. MP Scott Simmons. Will you take the Chair for us, Mr. Simmons.
Mr. Scott Simmons Absolutely.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. House in Committee at 5 :15 pm [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL CLEAR AIR AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Clear Air Amendment Act 2024 . I call on the Minister in charge, to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will move …
The Chairman Chairman Clauses 1 through 8. The Minister has asked that clauses 1 through 8 . . . go ahead, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban : Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Bill seeks to amend the Clean Air Act 1991 [the “principal Act” ] to provide pollution reduction measures that address areas …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Clause 8 amends the principal Act by inserting after section 12 the following new sections : Notice to Submit Air Quality [Action] Plan — [section] 12A (1) An inspector may issue a notice requiring a person who has received an emission control order under section …
The Chairman Chairman We are still on [clauses] 1 through 8. Am I correct, Minister? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Yes. Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, we are. I was just checking on something, Mr. Chairman. Just getting through [clause] 8.
The Chairman Chairman No, no. It is fine. Hon. Walter H. Roban: There are a number of . . . this is where some of the major clauses are that are being amended, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Thank you, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Publication of Air Quality Action Plan —[section] 12D, If the Minister approves a Plan under section 12C, he shall publish such Plan by notice in the Gazette. That is [clauses] 1 through 8, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. I will ask, is there any other Member who wishes to speak on these particular clauses? I recognise the Honourable Member Scott Pearman. Mr. Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have just two questions arising in that cluster of clauses.
The Chairman Chairman Carry on.
Mr. Scott Pearman Firstly, under clause 2, and at the risk of injecting some levity into this debate, we note that there are trained inspectors, “ means an inspector authorised in writing by the Minister as having been trained in the detection of nuisance odours .” And my question for the Minister is, …
The Chairman Chairman You may indeed. Carry on, Honourable Member.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. That is at clause 4 —
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman —and it is over to the top of page 3 of the Bill, in respect to little (bb), and this is in relation to the issue of permits by the authority and it says, “ subject to a condition that, in installing the controlled plant, the operator shall use the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Honourable Member. I am satisfied with what the Minister wishes to do. Minister, you are satisfied with that? Does any other Member wish to speak to clauses 1 through 8? Any questions to the Minister? Minister, there are none. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman You may continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, I have a few answers I am prepared to give.
The Chairman Chairman Please, go right ahead. Hon. Walter H. Roban: There are three persons who have actually been trained. It was something that I did mention in my brief in some of the other answers. [They] are actually trained to operate the technology Bermuda House of Assembly and that will be essentially …
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, Minister. [Pause] Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am just awaiting answers from the technical officers. I did not want the listening audience to have the dead space, so . . . [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Just for a moment, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman That’s fine. We will not take the recommendation from the Honourable Member to sing . We will go right ahead with the answers from your technical officers. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you for obliging me, Mr. Chairman. I do appreciate it. The best available technology from the standpoint …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Great.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. Do you wish to go ahead and move clauses 1 through 8. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I wish to move clauses 1 through 8 as written.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved by the Minister that clauses 1 through 8 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? There is none. It is agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 8 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wish to now move clauses 9 through 17.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 9 through 17 now be looked at. Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 9 amends the principal Act —(a) by inserting after subsection (1)(c), the following para-graph—(ca) that an Air Quality Action Plan approved under section 12C has …
The Chairman Chairman Absolutely. Hon. Walter H. Roban: It is quite detailed and quite—
The Chairman Chairman —There are those who feel you should do the abbreviated version, but carry on, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: No, I am going to do it because the public needs to know how much work went into this. [Laughter] Hon. Walter H. Roban: I am not going to abate . …
The Chairman Chairman As you so wish, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. There is no abridging the issues that we have raised here. [Costs and expenses : 16G(1) ] All reasonable costs and expenses incurred—(a) in serving an order of the Minister under section 16C; or (b) …
The Chairman Chairman You want clauses 9 through 14? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. That’s fine. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I would like to move clauses 9 through 14 as written.
The Chairman Chairman The Minister wishes to move that. That will be fine. Before we do . . . Minister, you will take questions between [clauses] 9 and 14. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members who wish to speak to clauses 9 through 14? I recognise Mr. Pearman. Mr. Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is just a point and it is . . . what clause would it be? It would be clause 10 —
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman —which runs over three pages. And my question is on page 7 of the Bill.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman Right in the middle where we are inserting a new [section] 16E(1), there is a paragraph there that deals with, commences “where a licensee who fails to comply” something has gone wrong in that paragraph. I am not quite sure what it is, but if the draftsmen would want to …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman It is probably just a drafting point, but I highlight it because as it currently stands it does not make sense. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to clauses 9 through 14? There are no other Members. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you for the observation by the Honourable Member. I am sure that that can be amended. …
The Chairman Chairman It is a technical matter. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, it is a technical amendment that can be dealt with. But thank you for pointing it out, Honourable Member. Thank you. I appreciate it. I will now continue from [clauses] 15 through 17.
The Chairman Chairman No, you can move if you wish, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I’m sorry. 356 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: That’s all right. You can move clauses 9 through 14. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I’m sorry, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for —
The Chairman Chairman No, that’s fine. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —the observation.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I wish to now move clauses 9 through 14 with the technical amendment considered.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. That’s fine. It has been moved that clauses 9 through 14 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 9 through 14 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, go right ahead. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. I will now move clauses 15 through 17.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Clause 15 inserts a new Fourth Schedule and Fifth Schedule into the principal Act. The Fourth Schedule provides information to be included in an Air Quality Action Plan; the Fifth Schedule provides for the new statutory nuisances. Clause 16 provides for transitional …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —particularly Ms. Tannock has taken with this Bill and the aggravation that she had to be subjected to from the Ministry, but she withstood it and came forth with what I think is a very good work from Chambers. So I wish to thank her …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —and the Chief Parliamentary Counsel and all who worked in Chambers on this. And of course, the team at DENR, led by Dr. Smith as well, on all the tireless work over many years working with Chambers and others and the public consultation to get …
The Chairman Chairman And that was all for the Minister. That was [clauses] 14 [sic] through 17. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to those clauses 14 . . . or I should say [clauses] 15 through 17. I recognise the Honourable Member, Mr. Scott Pearman. You have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is just one question that arises in relation to clause 15, although it does relate back also to a point at clause 10. And that is the introduction of the concept of a statutory nuisance. And the reason I refer to clause 10 is …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Honourable Member. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, to the Honourable Member’s observations.
The Chairman Chairman That’s fine. Thank you, Honourable Members. Minister, would you go right ahead. You can do the Schedules and the preamble. Go right ahead. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for your work and patience—
The Chairman Chairman You can move the rest. Go ahead. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —through this. I wish to now move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: I’m sorry. Did I move clauses 15 through 17 —
The Chairman Chairman That’s correct. I apologise. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —as written. I’m sorry, Mr. Chairman. I move [clauses] 15 through 17.
The Chairman Chairman That’s fine. It has been moved that clauses 15 through 17 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. It is agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 15 through 17 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. It is agreed to. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I do now move that the Bill be reported to the House with the technical amendments considered as well.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection. It is agreed to. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed [sic]. [Motion carried: The Clean Air Amendment Act 2024 was considered …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Clean Air Amendment Act 2024 being reported to the House as printed ? There are none. The Bill has been reported as printed. Members, thank you for your participati on today on that matter. We will now move on to …
Mr. Jache Adams Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. You can start us off.
Mr. Jache Adams All right. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Companies Amendment Act 2024 be now read for the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Continue, Junior Minister. BILL SECOND READING COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2024
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, the Bill before the House is the Companies Amendment Act 2024. This Bill amends the Companies Act 1981 to remove the unintended exemption from annual corporate regulatory fees for certain classes of exempted companies and thereby ensures that these fees apply to all entities on Bermuda’s corporate register …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Honourable Junior Minister for his presentation. As he has explained, there was an unintended exemption discovered in the Companies Act 1981, the primary Act, which was found at section 131(2B). And what that used to say, and what is now being …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly Any other Member? Junior Minister. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Is your microphone on?
Mr. Jache Adams Sorry. Yes, to his first point, there has been consultation and for the large part these companies have been in agreement. [They] certainly agree that the concerns or taken into consideration adding to additional costs to doing business in Bermuda. But with those brief comments , Mr. Speaker, I move …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Simmons. Thank you. House in Committee at 5 :59 pm [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further considera-tion of the Bill entitled the Companies Amendment Act 2024 . I recognise the Junior Minister.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move clauses 1 through 4.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 4 be looked at. Go ahead, Junior Minister. Clauses 1 through 4.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, c lause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends the principal Act by repealing section 131(2B) and substituting it with a provision that requires exempted companies referred to in that section to be liable to pay both the appropriate fee and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Junior Minister. Would any other Member like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? I recognise the Honourable Scott Pearman. Go right ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would love for the record to show that when the Junior Minister agreed with me earlier, he had his microphone off. So . . . [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman Since he was kind enough to agree with me about the dangers of retrospective leg-islation, I am glad to put that on the record. Just the one point and that is at clause 2. So, in effect, notwithstanding that it is retrospective back to 1 January 2024, anyone who has …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Mr. Pearman. [Would] any other Member would like to speak to clauses 1 through 4? Any other Member? Junior Minister.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In short, the Honourable Member is correct.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Very good.
The Chairman Chairman Junior Minister, I believe that concludes clauses 1 through 4. Go right ahead. You can pass your . . . you can go right ahead.
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Chairman, I move the preamble be approved. I’m sorry . . .
The Chairman Chairman Clauses 1 through 4.
Mr. Jache Adams Oh, sorry. I move that clauses 1 through 4 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 4 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 4 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Junior Minister. 360 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Jache Adams: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. Go ahead, Junior Minister.
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection. Agreed to. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Thank you, Junior Minister. [Motion carried: The Companies Amendment Act 2024 was considered …
The Speaker The Speaker Sorry. Members, we have now concluded that matter and we are now moving on to the next item which is the second reading of the Customs Department Amendment Act 2024 in the name of the Minister of National Security, but the Minister of Youth, Social Development and Seniors is doing …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, Honourable Members are requested to now give consideration to the Bill entitled Customs Department Amendment Act 2024. Mr. Speaker, the Bill proposes to amend the Customs …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Opposition Whip, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is typically not my forte but having read through the Bill and standing in for the more substan-tive Shadow Minister and of course we have someone standing in, the Honourable Member Tinee [Furbert], for Minister Weeks of National Security. I did not have in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? There are none. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don’t know if any of the technical officers . . . if they are . . . I just want to give them time. Yes? [Inaudible …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we are just seeking your leniency in a moment that both the Minister and the Shadow Minister were out today with health matters. And we have the Acting Minister trying to lead the matter. So she is just getting the necessary information. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, as outlined …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would you like to move us into Committee? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes, I would. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Hon. Tinee Furbert: I move that the Bill be committed, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Simmons. MP . . . There you go. MP Simmons, how are you this evening?
Mr. Scott Simmons Good, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Good. You can take the Chair. [Crosstalk] Bermuda House of Assembly House in Committee at 6 :21 pm [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Customs Department Amendment Act 2024 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Tinee Furbert: I move that clauses 1 . . . I would like to move clauses 1 through 5.
The Chairman Chairman The Minister [would] like to move clauses 1 through 5. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Tinee Furbert: That’s all of them. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Clauses 1 through 5 is the completion of it. Go ahead, Minister. [Clauses] 1 through 5. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, this Bill seeks to amend the Customs Department Act 1952 with respect to information collected by the Customs Department, to provide for the restrictions that apply to arrangements of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. That is clauses 1 through 4 [sic]. Would any other Member — Hon. Tinee Furbert: Five.
The Chairman Chairman —wish to speak to . . . I’m sorry. [Clauses] 1 through 5. Would any other Member wish to speak to clauses 1 through 5? I recognise the Honourable Member Mr. Cannonier. You have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. 364 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Under clause 4, section . . . let me just go to it. Section 12, first, where it says “provides that the Collector of Customs may charge an administrative fee . . .”. And …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to speak to clauses 1 through 5? I recognise the Honourable Scott Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 4 . . . This is just again one technical point for the draftsmen. At page 5, in the middle of the page, subsection (4), so it is subsection (4) of the new inserted [section] 9(4). It is where the definition ap-pears, “ In this …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Honourable Member. Any other Honourable Member wish to speak to clauses 1 through 5?
Mr. Cannonier. Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, just one more. Under clause 4, section 9, where it says, “[M] akes provision for the Collector of Customs to enter into arrangements for cooperation with authorities . . . .” Just curious, how was that being done before this was put in place or enacted? It is kind …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Thank you, Honourable Member Cannonier. Any other Member wish to speak to clauses 1 through 5? There is no other Member. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will just wait again for the technical —
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead. Hon. Tinee Furbert: —but I need clarification from MP Pearman in regard to [clause] 4 on page 5.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Tinee Furbert: You said “international arrangement . . . for”?
The Chairman Chairman [Clause 4] through 5?
Mr. Scott Pearman I am happy to clarify with your leave, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead.
Mr. Scott Pearman The point was at page 5, under newly . . . so it is clause 4. Clause 4 commences on page 2. And it inserts a whole tranche, [sections] 7 through 16.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman And the insertion I am referring to is [section] 9 at page 4. If we go over the page un-der [section] 9, is subsection (4) and it is there that we see a defined term “an international arrangement of cooperation.” Because that is a defined term all the other references …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member, Mr. Pearman. Any other Members? I recognise the Honourable Minister. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will answer the question in regard to clause 4, section 12. There was a question around the parameters set for fees for the …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. That concludes all answers, Minister? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Very well. You may go ahead and move your clauses, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I now move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman We will move all clauses, clauses 1 through 5. Hon. Tinee Furbert: I move that clauses 1 through 5 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 5 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection. Agreed to. Go ahead, Minister. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 5 passed.] Hon. Tinee Furbert: I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. It is agreed to. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed or amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Thank you, Minister. [Motion carried: The Customs Department Amend-ment Act 2024 was considered by a …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Customs Department Amendment Act 2024 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported as printed. Thank you, Members, for your participation in that matter. The next item before us this evening is the …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2024 be now read the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Premier. BILL SECOND READING BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I present to the Honourable House the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2024, which I will refer …
The Speaker The Speaker Hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: Specifically, a note has been added to clarify that the higher fee amount would ap-ply when a registrant falls into more than one tier. The proposed changes should avoid any inconsistencies or uncertainty in determining the correct tier and associated fee. The respective fee amounts …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to the Honourable Minister of Finance for that presentation. And I echo his thanks to all the support teams who put together the Bill. I have very little to say on the Bill. The amendment is to the 1969 primary Act. Really, it does …
Mr. Scott Pearman Listen, you know, I can admit when someone gets it right. Well done! [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Thank you. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Scott Pearman Toot. Exactly. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman A choir of Christmas trumpets on behalf of the BMA. [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman So that is one. Two, the waiver or reduction for the innovation hub. That is self -explanatory. There is an opportunity either for an exemption or a reduction. I have one question in Committee when we get there. And then the third substantive thing it is doing is to revise …
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? None. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, you didn’t even give anyone a chance to say if they wanted to speak on it.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, there was no one looking this way at all. Hon. E. David Burt: I am teasing you.
The Speaker The Speaker There were none looking this way. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member who just took his seat did a very good job of blowing his own horn and I will say that I guess that defeats the arguments of which he always makes that the Government does …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. MP Scott Simmons, will you take the Chair for us, please? [Inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. House in Committee at 6 :48 pm [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2024 . I call on the Minister in charge to proceed. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses . . . that clause— Hon. E. David Burt: Clauses 1 through 6.
The Chairman Chairman All of them? You are doing all [clauses] 1 through 6? Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, please.
The Chairman Chairman [Move all clauses] 1 through 6. Agreed to. It is agreed. Go ahead, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, c lause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends section 1 of the principal Act in the definition of “specified securities” …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Minister. [Would] any other Member like to speak to clauses 1 through 6? The Honourable Scott Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman I think I have broken my microphone. There you go, Mr. Chairman. Yes, two quick questions. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman Goodness me. I think I’ve struck a nerve. I was actually commending the BMA for their diligence. Just two quick questions and these may sound like blindingly obvious questions. The answers to them both, I think, is yes, but someone might have to come look at this afterwards and try …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Mr. Pearman. Any other Member have any further comments [to] clauses 1 through 6? There is no other Member. I recognise the Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the answer to both the questions is yes. That is fine. I am …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: That was the one reason why I was looking so confused.
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead. That’s fine, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: All right. 370 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly So, Mr. Chairman, seeing nothing further and having been able to answer the Learned Member’s questions, that the answer to both his questions is yes. So, in …
The Chairman Chairman He wouldn’t do that, Premier. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Oh, you never, never know. You never know. But with that, Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 6 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 6 be approved. Is there any objection to the motion? No objection. It is agreed to. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 6 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. I will then also move that Schedules 1 and 2 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Schedules 1 and 2 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: Schedules 1 and 2 passed.]
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? No objection. It is agreed to. Proceed, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Bill be now reported to the House as printed. The Chairman: Thank …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. [Pause] Proceedings resumed at 6:55 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. Are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2024 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported to the House as printed. Members, we thank you for your participation in that matter. And that …
Mr. Jache Adams Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled Corporate Entities (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act 2024 be now read the third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL Bermuda House of Assembly THIRD READING CORPORATE ENTITIES (MISCELLANEOUS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024
Mr. Jache Adams Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been now read a third time by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Corporate Entities (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next Minister. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Third readings now, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes, sir. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Oh, okay. Yes. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled Clean Air Amendment Act 2024 be now read the third time by its …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Continue, Deputy Premier. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING CLEAN AIR AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its title only and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Bill has been now read a third time by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Clean Air Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker The Companies Amendment Act. Junior Minister. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21
Mr. Jache Adams Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled Companies Amendment Act 2024 be now read the third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, Junior Minister. BILL THIRD READING COMPANIES AMENDMENT ACT 2024
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been now read a third time by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Companies Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Minister for Youth, Social Development and Seniors, will you do the National Security? SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Tinee Furbert: I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled Customs Department Amendment Act 2024 be now read the third …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to that? There are none. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING 372 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly CUSTOMS DEPARTMENT AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the Bill be now …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Customs Department Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2024 be now read the third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.]
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. BILL THIRD READING BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2024 be now read for a third time by its title …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and has now passed. [Motion carried: The Bermuda Monetary Authority Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.] ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER SESSIONAL STANDING COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, before I call on you to do that matter that takes us to the next stage, I am just going to seek the indulgence of the House. This morning under the Announcements there was a matter that I intended to have done that unfortunately because of the personal matter …
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this House do now adjourn until Friday, 14 February. We go from Friday the 13 th to Valentine’s Day. Look at that.
The Speaker The Speaker Valentine’s Day. Hon. E. David Burt: I think that someone is on their feet.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister of Education. Oh . . . Members, the Member from constituency 36 has risen. And I believe this would be her maiden — [Desk thumping and cheers ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, this would be her maiden speech, so she has a clear 20 minutes [without] inter-ruption. Member, appreciate that because you may not ever get another uninterrupted one. But you have your uninterrupted speech at this time. [No audio]
Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill [Microphone off.] . . . serve as their representative. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes. You’re good.
Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill I will start again. MAIDEN SPEECH
Rev. Dr. Emilygail A. Dill Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Speaker, distinguished colleagues and the people of Bermuda. It is with deep humility, gratitude and a sense of responsibility that I stand before you today having been elected by the people of constituency 36 to serve as their representative in this Honourable House. To each …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member . . . Minister of Education. Would you like your 20 minutes? HOLIDAY GREETINGS Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, as we approach this holiday season, I do wish to follow a similar theme, or the same …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: We are united in our shared desire to serve Bermuda and its people. And for that, Mr. Speaker, I am grateful. Mr. Speaker, it is my sincerest desire and with all my prayers, for everyone to be safe during this season of celebration. Please …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member?
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, you have your 20 minutes. THE IGNORANCE OF ADDICTION
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good evening, Mr. Speaker. To my colleagues and those in the listening audience, as always. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, if I had to choose a theme it would be “The Ignorance of Addiction.” Mr. Speaker, ignorance is typically used in a negative connotation but as you know it …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Merry Christmas to my colleagues. Merry Christmas to all of the residents in Bermuda who are in the listening audience. I am thankful for the ability to be here in this House and I too, as the Minister Robain said, look forward to returning on February 14 to rejoin the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Minister Burch. THE POWER OF SAYING “YES”: ENCOURAGE YOUNG BERMUDIANS TO PURSUE THEIR IDEAS AND PASSIONS
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I am going to make the same assumption I made in July when we ad-journed— [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —that this may very well be my last occasion to speak in this House. I was first sworn in as a Senator in November 1998. I only say that so that people will recognise that that is a l -oo-n-g time. And those who are inclined to tell me that …
The Speaker The Speaker You left out the ride you had?
The Speaker The Speaker You left out the ride you took. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker The ride you had! You didn’t tell us about your ride around the track yet.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Oh, I didn’t . . . I walked. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I walked. [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch No, during this exercise he had a meeting at Bay Club to meet with all the people who wanted to race and were interested and curious. I found out about it late, so I still went. So I got there late. The place was rammed. He was sitting at the …
The Speaker The Speaker Pits. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Pits.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch The pit. That’s it.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And they are just actively involved in the activity. The other thing that is important about this, Mr. Speaker, is that it is the land of peace.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch No gang member acts up at motocross. And you see people who come from Somerset who are active in St. David’s. And there is no threat. There is no criticism. And there might be friction. But when you are in an activity that involves your little people and their little …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes. [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Jyire Mitchell .
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Jyire.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Jyire Mitchell . Mr. Speaker, and this is how small the world is. I had a clinic at Pervis School since 2012. Every first Saturday of the month. And there is a senior citizen who comes to that clinic every month. He is not a constituent. But he comes. And …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And so when you help a young person, the circle is so wide of their relatives and everybody else, just from saying yes. He has not even been able to pull it off. And the event is not histo-ry. But the fact that he got encouragement has sent a clear …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch So, I said, Why? 380 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch She said, I am Jyire’s grandmother.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And I am like . . . okay. So all of this . . . I say all of this to say, Mr. Speaker, that that experience and saying yes is the best part of this job. [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch All 26 years of it. [Desk thumping]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, we held a press conference yesterday at Coney Island because I wanted the media in Bermuda to see . . . and I know that if you say something a thousand times, at the thousandth time somebody is going to hear it for the first time. And I …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I can’t imagine. And, Mr. Speaker, from my point of view, internally I will be as proud of his effort and his success as anybody who is a blood relative to him. He is a young member in our village, and I believe that all the adults in the village …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Minister Furbert, would you like your 20 minutes? UNITED NATIONS INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don’t think I will be using all 20 minutes, but I do want to take the opportunity to wish Bermuda, being that this is the last …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Swan. HOLIDAY GREETINGS
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, as we approach this holiday season, with regard to Christmas, I just want to take this opportunity to express from my family to especial-ly my constituents and people throughout this country a blessed Merry Christmas. And I want folks to take the …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, I was encouraged this morning with the Ministerial Statement by the Minister of Transport, especially as he shared with us about the air service that we are getting. I want to take this opportunity to congratulate BermudAir on its first anniversary. I think for many years, Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. MP Simmons -Wade, would you like your 20 minutes?
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly MP’S POLITICAL JOURNEY ENDS, DOING WORK WITH SENIORS WILL CONTINUE
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Mr. Speaker, and members of the listening public, first of all I would like to take this opportunity to wish everybody a happy, healthy and safe holiday with their families and friends. And following Colonel Burch, I will say I do not know whether this will be the last time …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. 386 13 December 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade: So, you are not going to see the end of me. This is the end of my political journey, but I will continue doing work with our seniors. Advocating for our seniors, letting them …
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Actually, there are a lot of seniors in this room that are over the age of 65.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Right? So, I will say I am proud to have been a member of the Progressive Labour Party, as a Member of Parliament. I am proud to know that this Progressive Labour Party Government to me is the best Government to serve the best interests of the people of Bermud …
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Thank you. So, as I close, I would again like to thank my colleagues on both sides of the House, my family, my friends and everyone who has supported and encouraged me in this wonderful journey. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Famous, would you like your moment?
Mr. Christopher Famous I won’t need the 20 minutes, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
Mr. Christopher Famous I want to take a moment and tell my parliamentary wife— [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous You ain’t going anywhere yet. Chill out. Chill out. Chill out. [Laughter] SUPPORTING CONSTITUENTS IN THEIR DARKEST HOURS
Mr. Christopher Famous Don’t get all sentimental. Mr. Speaker, every week that we are in here we give condolences —which is what we should do. Earlier this evening, I went to a viewing of a neigh-bour, a relative and someone who happened to be a constituent as well. And at that viewing, you …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Christopher Famous While they can still hear our voices. Maybe their spirit can hear us. I do not know. But it is very important because this year has been a year that we have all lost many, many people in this country. I do not know what the statistics are, but I …
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, my substantive part will not take long and ties again into some-thing that MP Simmons -Wade said. It is about leadership. Mr. Speaker, leaders are people who raise the Bermuda House of Assembly standards by which they judge themselves and by which they are willing to be judged. …
Mr. Christopher Famous The point I am saying, Mr. Speaker, anyone can get elected. Anyone. Some people are just dumb and lucky and get elected. But they are not leaders. Leaders must also be prepared to face the fire. If you are a batsman, you have to be able to take the bowlers, …
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 20 minutes. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am going to let you speak. [Laughter] TOUGH SITUATIONS IN BERMUDA NEED SOLUTIONS
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker, I am going to try and move swiftly. There are a couple of topics I want to hit. The first one is Part III, the first section of this insurance thing that I have been speaking to on . . . it is starting to be a fairly …
The Speaker The Speaker Health care.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I had no clue that the devastation of not being able to provide . . . or having difficulty with getting health care was so devastating for many families. The number one reason for bankruptcy in the United States —yes, in the United States —is health care. So, we have …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier There certainly is a window of opportunity, I am sure, just after Christmas. We will see if that happens. The only one with that crystal ball is the Premier. So let us see. It would be remiss of me to say that, quite frankly with, like I said all of …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier What I would say is this: the best people to run this country are the people of this country. Let them choose if they want to go with the colour red or blue or green. They can choose that. But at the end of the day, it is time Bermuda. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Working together.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hear, hear!
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I said to the Premier the other day that . . . we want to work on a Bill, then let’s work on a Bill together then. Don’t bring the Bill after you have done it. Let us work on the Bill together if we have to so we can …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member How was that going to work?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Because I felt that we needed to come together. It was also back in 2013 that I called for a day of prayer and brought all of the religions together so that we could find a way to come together for the betterment of the country. I stand by that …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And will continue to stand by that. And come what may, it gets contentious in this House—sure it does get contentious in this House because I believe that on both sides we are passion-ate about the fact that we want a better Bermuda.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm. Another Hon. Member: Absolutely.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier We want a better Bermuda . And so, some of this talk about just asking questions to ask questions, it is nonsense. If there is a question to be asked, you may not like it, but it has got to be asked. I did not always like questions when we, …
Mr. Christopher Famous What’s going to happen when we win? [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So, the Honourable Member Famous, just like he mentioned, you know, leadership is not easy. Leadership is not easy. You have to be able to stand the tide, come what may. There will always be something that somebody has got to say about you. But if you lead with integrity …
The Speaker The Speaker Thirty -six.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And to the rest of Bermuda, whether it be from St. David’s (because it is further out than St. George’s ) to Dockyard. Merry Christmas to you. And during this tough time, if we can help, every 36 one of us will be there. Merry Christmas, Mr. Speaker, Happy New …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Cannonier. Does any other Member wish to . . . MP Campbell.
Mr. Vance Campbell Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. VOTE FOR CHANGE
Mr. Vance Campbell Mr. Speaker, like most speakers that have gone before me, I would like to wish Bermuda a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Most importantly, I trust that everyone and their fami-lies will enjoy a safe holiday season. However, having said that, we know not everyone will have a …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member They are better off.
Mr. Vance Campbell —now than they were in 2017. I ask members of the public to look back to January 1 of this year and ask themselves are they better off now than they were then. If your answer to those questions is no, that your circumstances are not better today than any …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm.
Mr. Vance Campbell —if they believe change is required for the greater good. Now my colleague to my right who just finished speaking . . . he spoke of some gifts (as he referred to them as gifts) that the Premier spoke of earlier today in his Statement. And I also am reminded …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hmmm.
Mr. Vance Campbell And I am saying to the voting public, it would seem that the Government wants you to forget about anything prior to three months ago. They want you to forget about the saga, the longsuffering saga of education reform. They want you to forget that the teachers have said that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Campbell. Does any other Member wish to . . . Premier, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous Come on, Scott. Give us one for the holidays, Scott.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member No. Hon. E. David Burt: All right, Mr. Speaker . We might make it to Somerset by — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: You might make it to Somerset for 10. PLP’S SOUND GOVERNANCE Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, we have had a long year. And it is …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Interpolations. Hon. E. David Burt: They decided to lay down the gauntlet. But it seems as though they are actually afraid of the day. Well, let me be clear, Mr. Speaker . Whether or not we are back for the budget, rest assured, Mr. Speaker, this Government has delivered. And …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: This coming from a Government that refused, refused , to increase seniors’ pensions. Now let me be clear, Mr. Speaker . In the PreBudget Report that was delivered today, we are fund-ing universal health care. We have frozen government health insurance premiums for three years …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: That is going to strengthen protections for persons inside of our community. And that, Mr. Speaker, is what is the record of this Government . Sound governance, tackling the problems, examining the issues, coming up with solutions and advancing those matters through. So, Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Members have said much this evening in reference to the close and what season this is and normally I follow along with that line with a few remarks. But I think I am just going to be brief tonight and emphasise that we should take this time …
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