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House of Assembly Session 2023/2024 617 speeches

July 19, 2024

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Session Summary

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This was primarily a ministerial statement session where government ministers reported on their departments' achievements over the past seven years. Premier Burt announced significant tax relief measures, including a 60% reduction in fuel duty for electricity generation and confirmed the government's budget deficit was $10 million lower than projected. Deputy Premier Roban tabled new water pollution regulations, while other ministers highlighted accomplishments in security, infrastructure, and health care programs.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jul 19, 2024
Session 2023/2024
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Speakers 21
Speeches 617

Key Topics

Tax reform and relief measures for working families, including reduced payroll taxes and fuel duty cutsGovernment's financial performance for 2023/24, showing better-than-expected budget resultsWater Resources Act amendments to strengthen environmental protections and pollution controlsSeven-year review of National Security Ministry's safety initiatives and programsPublic Works infrastructure improvements and housing programs

Bills & Motions

National Heroes Act 2024 - forwarded from Senate to House of Assembly (no action taken yet)
Water Resources Amendment Act 2024 - tabled by Deputy Premier for future debate
Customs Tariff Amendment Act 2024 - to be tabled later in the session to implement fuel duty reduction
Human Rights Commission Annual Report 2023 - submitted for information

Notable Moments

Premier announced immediate fuel duty reduction from 20 cents to 8 cents per litre for electricity generation, effective today
Government reported exceeding budget targets again, with stronger financial position than forecast
Multiple ministers delivered "seven years in review" statements highlighting government achievements across various portfolios

Debate Transcript

617 speeches from 21 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Whips, we just barely made it. We just barely made it. I thought I was going to have to go sit outside for a little while. That’s a Member, let him come in. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, t he Clerk will lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner , Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Members, t he House is now in session. [Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 1 2 July 2 024]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes from the 12th of July have been circulated. Are there any amendments required? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 12 July 2024 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker We have been informed this morning that the following Members will be absent: MP Kim Swan, MP Christopher Famous, MP Lawrence Scott and MP Anthony Richardson have all sent their acknowledgements of absence today. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE NATIONAL HEROES ACT 2024
The Speaker The Speaker Forwarding the Bill entitled the National Heroes Act 2024. Premier, do you want to— [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker That is right. Just a message. J ust a message that the Bill [entitled] the National Heroes Act 2024 has been forwarded to us. The Bill was entered in the Senate first and now has passed in the Senate and is sent to us, the National Heroes Act 2024. PAPERS …
The Speaker The Speaker There is one such paper from Minister Furbert. Minister Furbert. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION—ANNUAL REPORT 2023 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of th is Honourable House of Assembly the Human Rights Commission — 2023 Annual Report .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker This morning we have 10 such Statements on the Order Paper. The first is in the name of the Premier. Premier. TAX REFORM, BUILDING A BETTER AND FAIRER ECONOMY 1528 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Members, the next Statement is also in the name of the Premier. Would you like to present your second Statement now? GOVERNMENT ’S FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE UPDATE Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker , I rise today to provide this Honourable House and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier, for your two Statements. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning, Members and the listening public. WATER RESOURCES ACT 1975, TABLING OF AMENDMENTS Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker , today I am tabling the Bill entitled the Water Resources Amendment Act 2024 , legislation that will ensure that Bermuda maintains the highest …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Members, the next Statement is from the Attorney General, but we are going to pass it over at the moment, and we will do the National Security Minister’s Statement. Minister. SEVEN YEARS IN REVIEW Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. BUILDING A BETTER AND FAIRER BERMUDA
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, upon assuming this role, there was one overarching goal that I wished to address during my tenure —improving the quality of life for Bermudians. To meet this goal, I set about doing several things all aimed at making life easier for the Bermudian public . First was improving …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. BUILDING A BETTER AND FAIRER HEALTH SYSTEM Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to highlight the strides the Ministry of Health has …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Youth, Social Development and Seniors. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members and fellow Bermudians .
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Bermuda House of Assembly STRENGTHENING OUR SOCIAL SAFETY NET — A REFLECTION OF THE MINISTRY’S WORK INITIATIVES 2020 –2024 Hon. Tinee Furbert: Today I rise with great pride and gratitude to share with you the reflections of the work, the deliverables and the initiatives that the Ministry of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister. BERMUDA AND THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES (UAE) SIGN AGREEMENT TO ADVANCE GOVERNMENT EXCELLENCE AND TECHNOLOGY SKILLS DEVELOPMENT Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister. BUILDING A BETTER AND FAIRER PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker , in education terms, seven years is 1,400 school days, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, before we move on let me just clarify that the Statement that was down on the Order Paper this morning for Madam Attorney General . . . she was prepared to deliver it. But due to a medical situation, 1544 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker This morning, we have written questions for Ministers before we go on to the questions on the Statements from this morning. And we will start with the questions that are on the Order Paper for the written questions. And we will begin now. I will start the clock. The first …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: PASSPORT APPLICATIONS AND RENEWALS, TURNAROUND TIME FOR PROCESSING Hon. Jarion Richardson: And good morning to honourable colleagues and the listening audience. My question to the Honourable Minister is, Members of the public have told the Opposition that they have passport renewals that have taken upwards of …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am prepared to provide a fulsome response to that question. But I do query why the Statements I made on October 30, 2023, April 6, 2024 and May of 2024, which are all public Statements, were omitted from the question. I have …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, for clarification, your basic response is saying that the answers are already in the public domain and the answers have already been provided. Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes, for specific numbers, which I am prepared to provide. But . . .
The Speaker The Speaker For clarification, if the answer is already in the public domain, you can refer to its being in the public domain. If you are saying that the answers are not . . . the question is put to get the answer. But if it is already in the public domain, …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Member, supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker First supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. Would the Honourable Minister please speak to some of the contributing factors that are leading to these late passport applications and renewals? Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, that information is in the public domain. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Supplemental, please?
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly Would the Honourable Minister please speak to the changes that he has made, given this clearly late turnaround time and broken process? Hon. Jason Hayward: That question is asked by making an assumption that turnaround times are consistently late. …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Good. You have used your two supplements on your first question. Would you like to do your second question? QUESTION 2: IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENT’S STAFFING OF THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DESK/EMAIL QUESTIONS Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Members of the public have told the Opposition …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, we come to the House of Parliament to be scrutinised based off of facts. The question says that a member of the public told him that they received a response from somebody anonymous in the Department of Immigration and wants the Minister to ri …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes. I thank the Honourable Minister for explaining the staffing for the customer service desk. Would he just be able to clarify? I think he said desk number one was the customer service desk; is that …
The Speaker The Speaker Third question, yes. QUESTION 3: PASSPORT APPLICATIONS AND RENEWALS, NO RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS FROM PUBLIC Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. Multiple members (plural) of the public have told the Opposition that they cannot get an answer to questions or updates in relation to their passport application and renewals. Will the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Again, “multiple members of the public.” The Standing Orders specifically state [at Standing Order 17(5)(g)], “A question shall not be asked . . . (viii) inquiring whether statements in the 1546 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Press or of private individuals, …
The Speaker The Speaker Stand on your feet. Stand on your feet. Hon. Jason Hayward: I spoke about the volume of applications from January to now, over 3,000 applications being processed. The department does an excellent job as it pertains to trying to field all of the calls and queries that persons make when …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, thank you. Or maybe restating the question. My question is, what actions are members of the public supposed to take if they have a hard time reaching persons in the Department of Immigration?
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister is on his feet. The Minister is on his feet. Hon. Jason Hayward: They can either call in to the Department of Immigration. They can email the Department of Immigration. They can try — [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Let the Minister provide [his] response. Hon. Jason Hayward: —to contact the Chief Immigration Officer directly. I would advise them to do so for very important queries, or the Assistant Chief Immigra-tion Officer. They can write directly to the Permanent Secretary responsible for the Ministry of Economy and Labour. They …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Second supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: None. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker None? Okay. Thank you. The second [set of] questions are also to the Minister of Economy and Labour. Would you like to put your second [set of] questions? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker The second [set of] written questions. QUESTION 1: WORK PERMITS— DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION WEEKLY MEETINGS AND APPROVAL OF Hon. Jarion Richardson: The second, thank you. The Honourable Minister has stated that he attends the weekly Department of Immigration senior management meetings. Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Would the Honourable Minister be able to clarify what role the Immigration Appeals [Tribunal] plays as it relates to senior management meetings? Does the senior management meeting escalate matters to the board, or vice- versa? How does it work?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: The Immigration Appeals Tribunal is a board that handles other parts of the legislation and not work permits. Work permits come under the sole responsibility of the Minister, and the refusal to ap-prove work permits cannot be challenged by the Immi-gration A …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: None. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Second question, please?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: WORK PERMITS— CONTINUATION OF CLOSED AND RESTRICTED JOB CATEGORIES Hon. Jarion Richardson: In a May 2024 press conference, the Honourable Minister said Bermudian unem-ployment was at its lowest level in more than 40 years. In that same month the Minister then extended a mor-atorium on closed and …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I continued the restrictions of closed and restricted job categories to protect jobs for Bermudians.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Yes, thank you. So, my understanding from the Minister’s Statement on the lowest levels of unemployment in 40 years indicated that the jobs were protected and there were a number of vacancies in the industry that needed to be filled that could not be …
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister will keep it closed? You are asking, Will the Minister always keep it closed? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker I am trying to find the question. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Sure. Thank you. I am referring to the methodology he referred to before. What are the criteria the Minister will use to amend closed and restricted categories?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The Department of Statistics conducts an employment survey. As a result of that employment survey, they put out an employment brief. The employment brief, clearly in this case Bermudians and non- Bermudians in each job category . . . there are job categories that are …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Second supplementary for that question, or . . . second supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please. Would the Honourable Minister be able to provide any data connecting Government policies to this lowest level [of unemployment] in [40] years ? Hon. Jason Hayward: If I am clear, the Opposition wants …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Third question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As it relates to the fast track -work permit application —
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Your written question. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Oh, sorry. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Your written question. You have done your— QUESTION 3: WORK PERMITS— STATUS OF FAST -TRACK APPLICATIONS Hon. Jarion Richardson: The Opposition has been informed that fast -track work permit applications are not in effect. Will the Honourable Minister please clarify for this Honourable House the status of the fast -track …
The Speaker The Speaker Do you have a supplementary that offers more insight to an answer? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Well, I have a clarification. I am sure it not the largest corollary in the world to go from fast track to expedite. If he can answer the question relating to, The [Opposition] has …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: No. Thank you. I very much appreciate the Minister’s answers today.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Okay. The next written questions are also for the same Minister. Minister Hayward, your next written questions are from MP Scott Pearman. Would you like to put your questions? QUESTION 1: WORK PERMITS— CONTINUATION OF CLOSED AND RESTRICTED JOB Bermuda House of Assembly CATEGORIES, NUMBER OF UNEMPLOYED BERMUDIANS …
Mr. Scott Pearman Good morning. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, and good morning to the Minister and good morning to the listening public. The first question is regarding increased closed categories and extended time for categories be-ing closed to provide job opportunities. Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House as …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I humbly request that the Honourable Member declare his interest. The Honourable Member operates a firm in which they ben-efit from the production of work permits. He actually hires MPs and colleagues to participate in this work. And so, if we open up work …
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, I will be guided by you. But I have to say that that is completely ridiculous.
The Speaker The Speaker I am trying to find the right position here in that we are required to declare where we have inter-est. And some persons have their forms filled out very thoroughly of where their interests lie, and some may not. But I think the fact that your position is k nown, …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. No, I am happy.
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. No, no. I am not finished. I do not want us to get caught up on what it looks like, what is personal back -and-forth on individuals because of that. Once the Member is registered it is official. And it is there. And it is registered in the …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will comply with your direction. I have a CI. I am a lawyer at the law firm Conyers, Dill and Pearman. Further, there is a declaration of interest from me on the parliamentary website, which I note is up to date.
The Speaker The Speaker I acknowledged that. I acknowledged that.
Mr. Scott Pearman Grateful.
The Speaker The Speaker I acknowledged that.
Mr. Scott Pearman And I would be grateful for the Minister to answer the question about unemployed Ber-mudians.
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, no. That is what I stated. You cleared that, and now the Minister will respond. Hon. Jason Hayward: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for that guidance. So, the Bermuda Government does not have a list of all of the interests of unemployed Bermudians. But what we do know is …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? 1550 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Thank you. Supplementary. I understood the answer to be that the Bermuda Government does not have a list. So, in response to the initial question, how many unemployed Bermudians were identified? Is the answer none ?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I made my math abundantly clear that, no, we do not have the interest of every unemployed individual registered in closed job categories. We simply do not have that correlation. But I did indicate where we do run programmes in the areas of clo …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. QUESTION 2: WORK PERMITS— CONTINUATION OF CLOSED AND RESTRICTED JOB CATEGORIES, NUMBER OF UNEMPLOYED BERMUDIANS HIRED IN EACH CATEGORY
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House as to how many unemployed Bermudians have been hired and in which categories since the categories have been closed in his initiative? Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: As stated earlier, the Department of Statistics runs an employment survey on an annual basis. That employment survey will gather data on Bermudians in every occupational category. That is a full census of our employment landscape. And as a result of that, we will be better …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman No. Third question, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question. Go ahead. QUESTION 3: WORK PERMITS— CONTINUATION OF CLOSED AND RESTRICTED JOB CATEGORIES, RESULT OF IMPACT STUDY
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Will the Honourable Minister please provide this Honourable House with the results of the impact study on local businesses relating to the implementation or extension of closed categories under his policy?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Again, Mr. Speaker, the Opposition has created a term of an impact study. I have never indicated that the Department of Immigration or the Ministry of Economy and Labour does an impact study. But here is what I will tell you: Since I have had closed …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Given the Minister’s answer that the Opposition has created an idea of an impact study, does the Honourable Minister consider that there could be an impact study?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The Ministry remains open to receiving feedback from industry. So, I will put a broad appeal out there. If industry believes that a closed or restricted job category should be open, then the Minis-try is open to having that dialogue with industry. I have made that …
The Speaker The Speaker Let the Minister finish. Hon. Jason Hayward: He can get caught up with words, but this is a very serious matter because it seems as though we want to play politics with things. And processes are in place that can easily be worked through. You do not see industry in …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Jarion Richardson: This is Question Period. We ask questions.
The Speaker The Speaker He was responding. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Is that . . . Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Does he have a question, and we answer his questions?
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister was responding. If he had to get up and give a yes -or-no, I think people would be upset that he gave a yes -or-no. He was trying to give a thorough response. Yes, we do not expect him to go on long, but he was responding in …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman No, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Thanks to the Minister for his answers.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister and Members for your participation in those questions. The next series of written questions is to the Minister of Transport from MP Jackson. MP Jackson. 1552 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 1: PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLE LICENSING BOARD, MEMBERS OF, BY YEAR …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you and good morning,
Mr. Speaker. My question Will the Honourable Minister of Transport please provide this Honourable House with a list of all Public Service Vehicle Licensing Board members by year and professional title from 2017 to 2022?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. That information that the Honourable Member has asked is in the public domain.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Thank you!
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister has responded that it is in the public domain. And as you know, with the Question Period questions, if the information is in the public do-main, the Minister is not obligated to provide the answer. He has indicated it is in the public domain. A nd that public …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, I have done intensive research. Public domain or not, I am going to accept that. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask a supplementary question: All the government board lists is the names of people who sit on the government boards. So, I would like to ask the …
The Speaker The Speaker Just for my clarity, you are saying that you were able to find the names? You found the names in the public space?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No, I have not. And I have done extensive research.
The Speaker The Speaker Well—
The Speaker The Speaker Well, let me follow your line of questioning. As far as the titles are concerned, I am not sure if people are placed on any boards because of their titles. So, I am just trying to walk my way through that piece. But I would venture to say the history …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. That is all. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: At least she can start with 2022.
The Speaker The Speaker That is fine. So, I am lost for words as to how to help you if the boards are publicised. Because they are, by requirement of law . . . that they should be publicised every year. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Well, Mr. Speaker, I would just beg to ask the question, Why there is so much defen-siveness around listing the government board mem-bers for the Public Service Vehicle Licensing Board? [Inaudible interjections and general uproar ]
The Speaker The Speaker I am trying to help you really, Member. I am really trying to help you. So let me. I do not want to go back and forth between the Minister and the Member. But I am trying to help you, in that the public boards . . . all public …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson That is this year. But 2017 to 2022 have no longer been on any site that I have access to, or the public have access to. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Then I would ask that the Minister then maybe provide the http Internet address for the public to be able to access the names.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Wait, wait, wait. We have not got to a supplementary question right now. I am just trying to help you in the process, meaning every year they are publicised. That is a given; everybody accepts that. We Bermuda House of Assembly all accept that as a given. Even under …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, I am accepting the fact that you accept that fact. And again, just the idea that no one would want to share that information answers my questions. So, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will move on.
The Speaker The Speaker I am not saying that they do not want to share it. I am trying to follow the guidelines of the Standing Orders, which say that if it is in the public domain the Minister is not required to answer it. That is a Standing Order requirement. If it is …
The Speaker The Speaker You are trying to point -of-order on that one, to me? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: On the Honourable Member here. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker I am trying to help everybody. I am trying to get to where we can get past this.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I will move on. Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Can we go past through to the next question then?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. QUESTION 2: BUS DIGITAL FARE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL —COMPANIES CONSIDERED
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you. Yes. Will the Honourable Minister please provide this Honourable House a list of all of the companies considered in the bus digital fare RFP (which is request for proposal) process?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, I will provide that list. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Okay. I have no problem giving them if you want me to give the names. Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member . . . I mentioned last week there were about 13 companies: 1. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Will the Minister please give us an indication of why Paragon [ID] was chosen over the other 12? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, that was in my Statement also last week.
The Speaker The Speaker The Minister is indicating that the Statement last week that he gave indicated why Paragon ID was chosen as the provider. It was in the Statement last week. Second supplementary? Okay. All right. Thank you, Members, for that. There are still more written questions for us this morning. Those questions …
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. The clock is still running! QUESTION 1: BELCO CHARGES FOR THE NATIONAL SPORTS CENTRE JANUARY 2018 TO DATE
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay! Good, good, good, good, good, good. Will the Honourable Minister please inform this Honourable House as to the BELCO charges for the National Sports Centre for each month from January 2018 to date?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That’s why I was wondering about the time. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, [the figures are as follows:] • January 2018, charges were $52,464; • February 2018, $53,805; • March 2018, $54,162; • April 2018, $46,011; • May 2018, $47,729; • June 2018, $48,506; • July …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order? POINT OF ORDER Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes. I would humbly ask you to review the Standing Orders and rule that question out of order. The Standing Order says that short answers will be given. It is impossible for the Minister to provide a short answer on this …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker. That is not the case at all, “vexatious.” [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker The [answer to this] question, as we are sitting here listening to it, does sound like it is going to be a lengthy response. I am trying to gauge how the supplementals, if supplementals are to come, are they just information that was sought? Because there could have been a …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker, I would be willing to take it in writing. The challenge is that we have still got questions that have not been answered, and we have asked for them in writing. And we are still waiting. Like for the Premier and the questions I asked last week . …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, I am going to try and indulge everybody on this thing here. (You can have your seat.) Minister, I am assuming that you are reading from a list in front of you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I am reading from a digital list.
The Speaker The Speaker A digital list in front of you. But it is printed somewhere, or can be printed somewhere. I would want to ask if you can provide that printed list to the Member so that we do not have to sit here and listen to the whole month by month from …
The Speaker The Speaker I know you are just asking a question. I know. I am being cognisant of your colleague who raised the issue of our not having to sit here that long and listen to it. And I am asking, would you be willing to provide a written list if the Member …
The Speaker The Speaker Well, I was trying to get you to make a call on your feet. If not, we are going to sit here and listen to that.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s right! [Inaudible interjections] Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Well, we will sit here and listen to it. Go ahead Go ahead. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, — • January 2019, $47,433; • February 2019, $53,899; • March 2019, $53,651— [Crosstalk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members! I only want to hear one voice, and that is the voice of the Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: [Continuing] — • April 2019, $51,372; • May 2019, $45,458; • June 2019, $44,646; • July 2019, $43,470; • April 2019, $46,160; • September 2019, $43,873; • October …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, I did not realise in all that going back and forth what the actual time was.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That is what I said in the beginning. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker I actually missed that. It is now 12:35. I am going to ask that we take the lunch break at this moment. And you will have to come back and continue. Or maybe during the lunch break you might be able to get clarification from the Permanent Secre-tary to provide …
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. The House is about to resume for the afternoon. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker When we broke for lunch, we were in the midst of having oral responses from the Minister to questions. And I believe there are eight minutes left on the clock there. Minister, are you ready to resume? Okay. Here you go. QUESTION PERIOD QUESTION 1: BELCO CHARGES FOR THE NATIONAL …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Do you have a supplementary, or would you like to ask your second question? You have three minutes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Supplemental, Mr. Speaker. And I appreciate the patience everyone has had in seeking out to get the answers here. What I would ask is, based on outside of COVID -19, it appears that it is a priority to get this under wraps. So, my question then would be, Based …
The Speaker The Speaker That is your supplementary? A supplementary has been asked, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, there has been some delay with the installation of the solar panel pro-ject. But I have been made to understand that it is imminently expected to come online. But, Mr. Speaker, I would …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am not sure about the last part that he is saying, started under another Government. The OBA became Government in December 2012. So, I am not sure what former Government he speaks of. Maybe he can clarify that for us. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier My second supplementary that I have is —
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Consider that we have probably spent between that period of time in electricity bills over $3 million. And I am curious as to whether or not, did we fulfil every month the discount date? Or did we fall behind in any of those many months, 70 months? Did we fall …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you have 27 seconds. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I actually find the question out of order, because the second question asks specifically, What was paid to the BELCO bills per month every year? So, the question he is asking is more pertaining to the next question …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier He can still answer it. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker I think that — [Timer chimes]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Saved by the bell.
The Speaker The Speaker I think the time—
The Speaker The Speaker —has expired on us. But I just thank everyone for their participation in the long question session that we did have today. And unfortunately, you did not get to all of your questions today.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker, if you will? I would like to request that for questions 2 and 3, if we could receive those [answers] in writing since we did not reach the threshold of getting them today?
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I would— Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, as someone who has been here, I do know that the Standing Orders permit for questions to be submitted in writing that do Bermuda House of Assembly not get answered during Question Period. So of course I will reach out …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Okay. Good. Let us move on.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Mr. Speaker, we did not finish. I did oblige on speaking with you. I still have not received answers from the Premier on previous questions that I made. So, if I could get some kind of indication where we are going . . .
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, the time has passed. Do you want to respond to that? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, having reviewed the Hansard and the specific question that I was asked by the Honourable Member, the answer that I gave last week was correct.
The Speaker The Speaker I do not have the Hansard in front of me. I just remember there was a question, so I cannot quote the question. And there was additional information asked for. I do remember there was a conversation in regard that it would be provided later or could be pr ovided …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I will let that sit for now at that because I have to review the Hansard myself and . . . Okay? Moving on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to make a comment? MP Lister, you have the floor.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon to the listening audience. Mr. Speaker, with sadness I stand here today to offer condolences to the family of Mr. David Steede II. Mr. Speaker, I see hands, and I will associate the whole House. While I did not know Mr. Steede inti-mately, I …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Congratulations . You mean congratulations.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Congrats. I mean congratulations, Mr. Speaker; I do apologise. To offer congratulations to his sister, Rachel Betschart, who at 18 recently competed in the WASZP Grand Final SailGP inspired champion of champions in San Francisco last weekend. And she won the event, Mr. Speaker! I would like to associate MP …
Mr. Dennis Lister III It slipped my mind, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Do you all think I should help him out?
Mr. Dennis Lister III Forty -third, Mr. Speaker. Celebrating your 43 rd wedding anniversary, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping]
Mr. Dennis Lister III Mr. Speaker, I would also, as you celebrate your 43 rd anniversary on Monday, my wife and I celebrate our 4th tomorrow. So, I would also like to send congratulations to both your wife and my wife, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker For putting up with us, eh? For putting up with us, okay. [Desk thumping]
Mr. Dennis Lister III And with that, I thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1558 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: All right. Thank you. MP Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you. I would like to be associated with the condolences to, he is actually a close cousin of mine, Steede, Pastor of the Seventh- day Adventist Church. What a sad message to receive that at such a young life, he has passed on. And this was somebody who …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, he passed away. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, he was in Toronto, yes. Yes, yes. So very sad occasion for us as a family. Our former Chairwoman, Lynn, that is her husband, Lynne Woolridge. And of course he was treasurer for many years. And the same slogan at every meeting we had was, It’s all about canvassing. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish . . . MP Caines. Mr. Wayne Caines: Mr. Speaker, I would like to add my voice to the condolences that have already been given by MP Lister and by MP Cannonier with reference to the Pastor David Steede. Pastor David Steede was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker The MP behind you yielded to you. [Laughter] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, cousin. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the remarks regarding Pastor Steede. Really a nice guy, one of the nicest guys you would ever meet. In fact, the last time I talked …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Simmons, you have your three minutes now.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon, all. I would like to express my condolences and share the sympathies for all of the messages for those who have been lost over the past couple of days. I am standing up on a sad note for myself, paying tribute to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member . . . Minister Weeks. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to first be associated with the remarks for Reverend Steede, Pastor Steede. I did not know him personally on a personal basis, but when I went to his church, he …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP King.
Mr. Robert King Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. Robert King I wish to extend condolences to the family of Mr. Gilbert Trott of 11 Cable Hill, who died at the age of 90 years old. And also, to Dr. Gemma Harris, who will be laid to rest on Monday. Condolences to her family and friends at Solstice. And the Governor …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution?
Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today on a sad note and to ask that this Honourable House do send a letter of con-dolences to the family of Ms. Janice Elise Ray, who passed in her 81 st year. She was a member of the community …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any other Member? No other Member. 1560 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Before we move on, I would just like to add my comments to some of the expressions already [offered] this morning. I will start off where the condolences started with those …
The Speaker The Speaker Bandmaster. That is somebody else’s time that I had not turned off. How is that? [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Bandmaster Jimmy Tucker, as was said by the MP Jamahl Simmons, was a figure in Somerset who will long be remembered for the lasting impact that he had, impact that the Somerset Brigade Band brought to Somerset. We recently had the Somerset Cup Match pre-walk. And in that we talked …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are three Bills. Deputy [Premier], are you going to do it for the Premier? BILL FIRST READING CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, on behalf of the Premier/Minister of Finance, Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill, which, according to section 36(3) of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy, you have your own? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to do your own? BILL FIRST READING WATER RESOURCES AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And, Minister of Education, are you doing it on behalf of the Junior Minister? BILL FIRST READING NATIONAL HEROES ACT 2024 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, are we doing the switch? [Crosstalk ] The Speaker: We are sticking to [the agenda]. Members, the first Order of the Day is the second reading of the Corporate Income Tax Agency Act 2024. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Premier. BILL SECOND READING CORPORATE INCOME TAX AGENCY ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is my distinct honour and privilege on behalf of the Government to rise this afternoon in the Honourable House to debate …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Member wish to make a comment at this time? MP Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, given the moment of levity introduced by the Premier, let me follow suit and apologise. When I woke up early this morning, it was a little dark and I was not paying attention. And unfortunately, someone has pointed out to me that I am …
Mr. Scott Pearman And I would just like to clarify that, were you to permit me to do so, I would take the tie off so as to curry favour with you and with Somerset. [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman So, I am for Somerset, and I apologise about the colours on my tie —
The Speaker The Speaker Do I take that to mean that you are endorsing the Premier’s comments for a victory for Somerset?
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, there is nothing like kissing up to the Speaker before I speak, right? [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, let me also, just for form’s sake, given some earlier comments today in the House, I would like to just disclose an interest, which of course is that, amongst many, many others on this Island who have put a lot of hard work into this Bill, th e …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman To say that obviously the commencement of the Corporate Income Tax legislation back at Christmas was a mammoth step for this jurisdiction. And we are really in a brave new world. Back then I described it as uncertain terrain. And I am not entirely convinced that the terrain is that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other? Premier. [Pause] Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry, Mr. Speaker, I had misplaced my folder. I thank the Honourable Member for his questions. It is important to note that there have been a …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy. House in Committee at 3 :15 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL CORPORATE INCOME TAX AGENCY ACT 2024 1568 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration …
The Chairman Chairman I make no comment. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, we can have a little bit of banter, can’t we? Anyhow, Mr. Chairman, because there are a number of various amendments, I will start by asking that I move clauses 1 through 5.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Clause 1 provides the title of the Bill. Clause 2 provides for the interpretation of [terms] used in the Bill. Clause 3 establishes the Corporate Income Tax Agency as a statutory corporation. Clause 4 sets out all the general …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to clauses 1 through 5? MP Scott Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman There were a couple of questions that the Premier kindly answered in debate. Now these just a couple . . . there really aren’t that many. So, clause 2, at least in my copy of the Bill, just on the def-initions, “Minister of Finance.” The “of” is missing but maybe …
Mr. Scott Pearman So, clause 4(1)(c), this is the subsection “reviewing and where appropriate auditing tax returns and ensuring compliance more generally with the CIT Act —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Which clause are you on?
Mr. Scott Pearman I’m sorry. I am at page 4 of the Bill. On my copy it is clause 4(1)(c). Hon. E. David Burt: Clause 4(1)(c).
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. And it commences, “reviewing and where appropriate auditing tax returns and ensuring compliance more generally with the CIT Act and any regulations made under that Act;”. The question in relation to that clause is, Are there any regulations an-ticipat ed? And if so, when are they anticipated? Mr. Chairman, …
The Chairman Chairman You can.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, with your leave. Clause 3(6) is the clause in relation to ministerial involvement referring onward to [clause] 5(7). And I just would like to ask the general question, and I think it is a fair question to ask. Why does the Minister of Fi-nance consider the involvement of t …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman No, one more question.
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of Order, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. What is the point of order? POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Christopher Famous The Honourable Member continues to refer to “his” copy as if there are multiple copies of the Bill floating around. I just want clarification that there is one copy of the Bill that we are all reviewing.
The Chairman Chairman No problem. He is making it clear that what he has got . . . I am following him. I got him. If I thought there was any difference I would let —
The Chairman Chairman There is one Bill, yes.
Mr. Scott Pearman It is, and I am happy to address that answer. As I said in the debate, the Government very kindly invited all Members of Parliament, including the Honourable Minister who was just on his feet, to a briefing. And in part of that was to see track changes from an …
The Chairman Chairman You don’t have—
Mr. Scott Pearman I believe mine should be the same as yours.
The Chairman Chairman Well, I . . . so far it is.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman Grateful. Oh, it was a point of order. I think I was . . . was I sitting down? Oh, no. I had one more matter.
The Chairman Chairman No, you were on the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman I was on my feet for one more matter and that was clause 5(5)(b) and that is the clause that commences [with clause 5(5)], talking about . . . “may advise the Minister on matters that relate to the general administration and enforcement of Bermuda’s corporate [income] tax regime, except …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman So those are my questions in relation to clauses 1 through 5. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers to clauses 1 through 5? There appear to be none. Premier Finance Minister Burt. Hon. E. David Burt: Well, I am certainly going to earn my keep today, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, you are. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: All right. Let me do my best. I know that I am scribbling some [answers] and I know that technical officers are also writing some. I will deal with what I can deal with [from] my head. And I know that my …
The Chairman Chairman Just point to the clause. Hon. E. David Burt: The clause . . . I think that it was clause 3(6) —
The Chairman Chairman Clause 3(6), yes. Hon. E. David Burt: —combined with [clause] 5(7). And the view from the Government is that directions without question are common in agencies of this nature. The directions are transparent. There are even directions for the Bermuda Monetary Authority. It is im-portant to remember that though this …
The Chairman Chairman Certainly .
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I am happy to provide that clause. It is clause 5(5)(a). Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to clause 5(5)(a) where it speaks to these particular matters, I will say that given the tech-nical area of expertise which lies in the …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: I am happy . . . and I am sure there may be further questions. If I didn’t get any, I am certain . . . I will just ask the Honourable Member to try to speak a little bit slower and make sure he …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member Pearman, anything further?
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe there was one additional question which was the [clause] 5(5)(b) which was the meaning of tax matters. And while I am on my feet, I notice that there was in fact another point that I did not ask in relation to clause 5 which …
The Chairman Chairman What section are you speaking on?
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, it would be in clause 5 in relation to the Board of Directors. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman All right.
Mr. Scott Pearman So, it is those two points.
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. So, I think that this is clear. That the matter is that the Board is not to direct the CEO on matters related to tax matters because the Board is a management board. There is the authority that is with the per-sons who …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. E. David Burt: The Board is a management board to make sure that it is there. To make sure it has sufficient expertise, et cetera, but the important thing here is to hire the technical experts who have the ability to work. The Board is not a full …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Finance Minister, you want to move those five clauses? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 5 be approved and stand part of the Bill.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 5 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 5 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move clause 6, if I may.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. As you would note, there has been an amendment here. And just for Honourable Members who may be in the Chamber to note, previously there were four amendments that were expected to be made to this. In the …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: I can do that now?
The Chairman Chairman Yes. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 6(5) Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The amendment that we wish to make to this particular section is by deleting the existing clause 6(5) that is inside of the Act that was tabled and substituting the following. And then clause 6(5) will then …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In relation to clause 6(1), the appointment of the Chief Executive Officer is being carried out with the approval of the Minister. And I would just like to know from the Honourable Finance Minister why that decision is not being left to the Board? The second …
The Chairman Chairman Wait. Wait. Hang on a minute, Pearman. You said “over the page”?
Mr. Scott Pearman Over the page.
The Chairman Chairman Because my [clause] 6(6) is on one page.
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, I don’t know how my printer worked, so . . . clause 6(6). It begins, “If the Minister delegates.”
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Yes.
Mr. Scott Pearman So, my question there is, Why is the Board being effectively bypassed there? Why wouldn’t that be channelled through the Board and what might be said to be in the usual way? Those are the three questions for clause 6. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Pearman, you want to take this one here, because . . . [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Yes. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, we are going to move to approve this, but there is something that I did miss in clause 1, but I will get back to that in a second.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: Just a very simple matter which should be caught under the technical provisions so it should be fine. But I do want to acknowledge at least for the Hansard so it can be done that the previous clause 1, in the Interpretations . . . …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: So, I did not want that to be missed. So it is there for the Hansard, so everyone knows. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On the matters related to clause 6, I will take [subsections] (1) and (2) together on this because this question was raised …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to the amendment in [clause 6](5)? [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? No objections. Approved. [Motion carried: Amendment to clause 6 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The amendment is approved. Can I move that the clause 6 be approved?
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 6 be approved as amended. Are there any objections to that? Bermuda House of Assembly There appear to be none. Clause 6 is approved as amended. [Motion carried: Clause 6 passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. I …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman, clause 7 makes provision for the hiring of staff of the Corporate Income Tax Agency and includes provisions whereby Government employees may be seconded to the Corporate Income Tax Agency. And there are two amendments. Would you like me …
The Chairman Chairman Please. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 7(3) Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. There are two amendments, the first one is to clause 7(3). And the amendment to clause 7(3) is de-leting clause 7(3) as tabled and substituting the follow-ing. And I quote: “The Agency shall be responsible for the …
The Chairman Chairman Let’s do individually. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. That is the amendment to clause 7(3), Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers to the amendment in clause 7(3)? There appear to be none. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that clause 7(3) be amended as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved clause 7(3) be approved as amended. Any objections? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Amendment to clause 7(3) passed.] AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 7(5) Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will now move to clause 7(5). For the amendment, in clause 7(5), …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to the amendment, clause 7(5)? Cannonier, you don’t have . . .
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the amendment to clause 7(5) be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the amendment to clause 7(5) be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Amendment to clause 7(5) passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hearing no comments on clause 7 in its entirety, I move …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 7 be approved as amended. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 7 passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at this time I wish to move clauses …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. And that will close us out on Part II.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: Clause 8 provides that the Corporate Income Tax Agency shall be exempt from stamp duties. Clause 9 provides that the taxes administered by the Corporate Income Tax Agency shall not form part of the Corporate Income Tax Agency’s property. 1574 19 July 2024 Official Hansard …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers to clauses 8 through 15? Scott Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question is at clause 10(3) which is the provision that requires the submission to the Minister for his approval a draft budget that has been approved by the Board. And I am just . . . we did cover this in general debate, but if …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thanks. I will do my best, because I am sure there may be also Members on that side who may also assist because when they are Ministers in Government this is not an abnormal provision. Budgets are made up of . . …
The Chairman Chairman Brother, cousin . . . MP Scott? [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman You are all right? Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With that I move that clauses 8 through 15 be approved and stand part of the Bill.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 8 through 15 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 8 through 15 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. I will now go to Part III and move clauses …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Clause 16 empowers the [Corporate Income Tax] Agency to issue determinations on questions of interpretation under Bermuda’s corporate income tax regime where there may be material uncertainties. Clause 17 empowers the [Corporate Income Tax] Agency to settle any disputes …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers to clauses 16 through 18? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 16 through 18 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 16 through 18 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 16 through 18 passed.] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would now like …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 19 provides for immunity from suit. Clause 20 imposes confidentiality obligations upon the Corporate Income Tax Agency and its staff, subject to the exceptions which are set out therein. And as I said in the general debate, these provisions are …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to clauses 19 and 20? There appear to be none. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that clauses 19 and 20 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 19 and 20 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 19 and 20 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to now move clause 21.
The Chairman Chairman Clause 21. Continue. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 21(2) Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 21 does grant the Corporate Income Tax Agency information gathering powers, in the matters in relation [to] discussions [with] the Opposition on this particular matter the Government will be advancing an amendment. I would …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to that amendment? There appear to be none. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the amendment to clause 21(2) be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the amendment to clause 21(2) be approved. Are there any objections to that? There are none. Approved. [Motion carried: Amendment to clause 21(2) passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the clause be approved as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clause 21 be approved as amended. Are there any objections to that? There are none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clause 21 passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at this time I would like to move clauses 22 …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Clause 22 is a provision whereby the Corporate Income Tax Agency may provide assistance to foreign tax authorities in exercising similar functions to the Corporate Income Tax Agency under the relevant foreign law. Clause 23 provides for a right …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to clauses 22 through 25? There are none. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that that clauses 22 through 25 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 22 through 25 be approved as printed. Are there any objections? 1576 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly There are none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 22 and 25 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. AMENDMENT TO SCHEDULE 1 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, as you see in front of you, there is an amendment to Schedule 1. And the amendment states that paragraph 8 of Schedule 1 is being deleted to allow the Board to be entitled to some confidentiality as it …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to the amendment on [paragraph] 8 in Schedule 1? There are none. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, it is deleting paragraph 8 and renumbering paragraphs 9 through 12 as [paragraphs] 8 through 11. But that will be done at a technical level. And I …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the amendment to . . . clause 21? Hon. E. David Burt: Schedule 1. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Schedule 1. I’m sorry. [The amendment to] Schedule 1 be approved. Any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Amendment to Schedule 1 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to now move Schedule 1 as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Schedule 1 be approved as amended. Are there any objections to that? There are none. Approved. [Motion carried: Schedule 1 passed as amended.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would now like to move Schedule 2.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Schedule 2 details the consequential amendments which primarily establish the tax reserve fund and allows the Minister to issue regulations in regard to its operation.
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to Schedule 2? Brother Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. At Schedule 2, [paragraph] 2, which is the inserting of section 50A, there is reference there to the establishment of a “tax refund reserve fund.” Obviously, that is probably self -evident what a tax refund reserve fund is, but could the Honourable Minister kindly speak to …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Chairman, I am going to wait for my technical things although I think I know the answer. But I was warned by a very senior public officer to make sure that I speak very carefully on matters related to this Bill as the world …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. The world is watching. The world is looking at that horrible tie you have got on but . . . [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: You said colourful tie, Mr. Chairman?
The Chairman Chairman No, Horrible. [Laughter and i naudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt : MP Cannonier, be nice.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: You know deep down in your heart you want to cheer for Somerset. Deep down you want to be on the winning side.
The Chairman Chairman Take the red out of that and put a blue in there and it would look good. Hon. E. David Burt: Mm-hmm. Thank you. What I will say, Mr. Chairman, is that the Honourable Member did say that these matters are self -evident but wanted to speak insofar as the …
The Chairman Chairman Brother Pearman, you have anything else? No? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Schedule 2 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Schedule 2 be approved as printed. Are there any objections to that? There are none. Approved. [Motion carried: Schedule 2 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Corporate Income Tax Agency Act 2024 be reported to the House as amended.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as amended. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as amended. [Motion carried: The Corporate Income Tax Agency Act 2024 was considered by a Committee of …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. Thank you. And again, remove that tie. [Laughter] [Pause] House resumed at 3:54 p m [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE CORPORATE INCOME TAX AGENCY ACT 2024
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Corporate Income Tax Agency Act 2024 being reported to the House as amended? There are none. The Bill has been reported with the amendments. That now takes us to the second reading of the [Bermuda] Hospitals Board Amendment Act 2024 in the name …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members, I stand before you to introduce the Bill enti-tled the Bermuda Hospitals Board Amendment Act 2024. Hereinafter I will refer to that as …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: [The Bill] has the effect of allowing for all fees for health care services that are provided in the hospital to be published online. Through this Bill the Ministry of Health seeks to reform the publication of fees for health care services provided in hos …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member —thank you, Minister. Does any Honourable Member wish to make a comment at this time? MP Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I just have a couple of questions and comments that I would like to share with the Minister and hope that she might be able to address them. One of them is just very practical. And that is asking about the frequency of the change …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Any other Member? Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Member for her questions and her support. Let me just back up for a minute, Mr. Speaker. The …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. [Pause] House in Committee at 4:05 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled Bermuda Hospitals Board Amendment Act 2024 . Minister Wilson, you have the floor. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Chairman, thank you. Since this is a brief Bill, I would like to move …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you. I didn’t think you would object. [Laughter] Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 1 provides for the citation of the Bill. Clause 2 amends section 1 of the Bermuda Hospitals Board Act 1970 by inserting the definitions of “dental practitioner,” …
The Chairman Chairman Wait. We have to have a debate on the first . . . Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Oh, sorry. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to clauses 1 through 7 of the Bill, the Bermuda Hospitals Board Amendment Act 2024? Any speakers? There appear to be none. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I now move that clauses 1 through 7 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 7 be approved. Are there any objections? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 7 passed.] Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And finally, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Bermuda Hospitals Board Amendment Act 2024 was considered by a Committee of …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. [Pause] House resumed at 4:09 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Bermuda Hospitals Board Amend-ment Act 2024 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported. Members, that moves us on to the next Order on the Order Paper, which is the second reading of …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, on July 12, 2024, the Bill entitled the Development and Planning Amendment Act 2024 was first introduced to the Honourable Members of this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP King, you have the floor.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just have a couple of questions regarding section 61B, page 3, in terms of whether the six years beginning with the date of the breach [section 61B](a), or one year beginning with the date on which the Director becomes aware of the breach [61B(b)]. In …
Mr. Robert King Oh, sorry. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point — POINT OF ORDER Hon. Walter H. Roban: The Member seems to be discussing detailed clauses of the Bill and not the general purpose of the Bill. I think he should keep to that and then if he has any questions about clauses that can be done in Committee.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Just as a matter of guidance for you.
Mr. Robert King Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker All the clause matters of the Bill, are done when we go into Committee. The general discussion is done while we are in the House. So, any general comment on the Bill you can make up here but when you go into the specifics of the Bill itself, save that …
Mr. Robert King Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker You can keep talking. [Crosstalk ] 1582 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Robert King: I still got the training wheels on but anyway . . .
The Speaker The Speaker No problem. That is what we are here for, to help you, to guide you along.
Mr. Robert King So, yes, in principle, the amendments look good. I just . . . as regards the imprisonment piece on page 7. That was the only issue.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. All right. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Minister of Education. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I will declare my interest, I am an agent in the Department of Planning. In my former life I did make Planning applications and deal …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a comment at this time? Any other? Okay. Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would seek clarification on the question asked by— [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Vance Campbell: Okay. I’ll get that clarification when we go into Committee.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, that can be dealt with in Committee. Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be committed.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. House in Committee at 4:18 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further considera-tion of the Bill entitled Development and Planning Amendment Act 2024 . Minister Campbell, you have the floor. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move clauses 1 and 2.
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Just give me one second.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Take your time. Hon. Vance Campbell: Clause 1 provides for the title of the Bill. Clause 2 amends [section 20 of] the Development and Planning Act 1974 by deleting subsections (2A), (2B) and (2C), which were inserted by the Devel-opment and Planning Amendment Act 2018.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Any further speakers to clauses 1 and 2 of this Bill, Development and Planning Amendment Act 2024? Mr. King, you had some questions?
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The clauses that I was referring to section 61B [of the Development and Planning Act 2018] “Subject to subsection (3)” — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King Oh! Page 3. Where it speaks to the time limits for taking enforcement — Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: No. You are looking at . . . you have got to look at this Bill here, cousin.
Mr. Robert King Okay. Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, this is an amendment, it is an amendment Act. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman [Clauses] 1 and 2. [Inaudible interjections]
The Chairman Chairman Yes. It’s — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King Thank you. Well, the only question that I would have then is in terms of when these clauses are going to be enacted as it relates to the enforcement provisions in the original Act.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. That’s it. Any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, if I understand the question correctly, upon Assent these clauses will cease to be effective.
The Chairman Chairman Hmm. Hon. Vance Campbell: They would be removed.
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. Vance Campbell: And this Bill —
The Chairman Chairman I think the question he is asking — Hon. Vance Campbell: —does not affect —
The Chairman Chairman No. He was asking when. Hon. Vance Campbell: Once they pass both Houses,
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Right. No, no. That’s fine. That’s the answer. Hon. Vance Campbell: And they have no impact on any of the other enforcement clauses within the original Act.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister, do you want to move . . . Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 and 2 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 and 2 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 and 2 passed.] Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Development and Planning Amendment Act 2024 was considered by a Committee of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Campbell. Mr. Speaker. [Pause] House resumed at 4:22 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Development and Planning Amendment Act 2024 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported as printed. That brings us to a conclusion of the business for today. We will now have the third readings for those …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to the Bill being read a third time by its title only? No. Continue. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING CORPORATE INCOME TAX AGENCY ACT 2024 Hon. Walter H. Roban: I move the Bill now be read a third time by its title …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Corporate Income Tax Agency Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, while you are on your feet. It looks like you may have to . . . Oh, okay. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Another Bill.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Another Bill. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Health, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled Bermuda Hospitals Board Amendment Act …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Are there any objections to the Bill being read a third time by its title only? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill now be read …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Bermuda Hospitals Board Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker I see Minister Campbell. You can do yours. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Development and Planning Amendment Act 2024 be now read a third time by its title …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections to the Bill being read a third time by its title only? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill now be read a third time …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Development and Planning Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.] Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until the date of Friday, Septem-ber 20. And I understand that the Minister of Public Works would like to address you in his wonderful red tie. Bermuda House …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch So do I, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Which means there is somebody behind you in blue, but the Premier recognised you as first. So, I am going to take your red tie as being the first person.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Unacceptable! [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker So, your red . . . Minister, your red tie won out. Just like we expect it to win out at the end of month during August 1 and 2. [Inaudible interjections]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch They can say what they like, Mr. Speaker. The fact remains —
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo I think we have a biased Speaker. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Oh my!
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] REFUTING FALSE NARRATIVE OF NATIONAL HERO
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, —
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —since there is only one who knows the day of the next election—
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —this may very well be my last occasion—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh my!
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —to speak in this House should they, before the 20 th of September, call the general election. I would like to address two things, Mr. Speaker, so that they can go on the record of this country for perpetuity. The first comment I would like to make is in reference …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And so, I am reacting today, Mr. Speaker. The living National Hero told a friend of mine that I was getting kickbacks from Bermudiana Beach. Hon. E. David Burt: What?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And that they were being deposited somewhere so that I could hide them and be able to use those funds when I retire to Jamaica.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s absurd.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, a couple of things are wrong. First of all, I have no intention of retiring to Jamaica, even though the Royal Gazette told this country that that is what I intend to do in retirement. I saved it until now because I have been enjoying the fact that …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch But I do not plead guilty to being a thief.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Ooh! 1586 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: Or to being dishonest. And I take exception to people carrying that message around this country as if it is something that doesn’t mean anything. The one thing that I take very …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And Mr. Speaker, in my world, my little world [where] just I exist, your history should demonstrate and support who you actually are. And so, I would call on the only living National Hero [that] this country has to —if he has evidence—call the police. I invite him to do …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch What I want to talk to about mostly though, Mr. Speaker, is the best part of this job. And no, it is not the title. It is not the office. It is not the car. It is not the aura that people give around people who are called “Minister”, which …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —because they had jobs for the summer in the storeroom at BELCO.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And they were happy that they were going to get their foot in the door at BELCO and be on their way to being successful engineers. Of course, I threw a monkey wrench into the works, and they went away and they had no choice but to accept the offer …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch But what it was designed to do was to . . . two things, really: to keep contact with our students who were overseas doing things that we wanted to encourage and let them know whilst they were overseas that, yes, you can go off and do all the things …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker MP Foggo, you have the floor to yourself this time.
The Speaker The Speaker No red tie for me to look at, eh? CUP MATCH— COMMUNITY GLUE THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER AS ONE
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes. And you know what, Mr. Speaker, let me say this. I believe it was meant for Colonel Burch to speak before me. And the reason why I say this is because of what I wanted to share today with members of the public and my colleagues here. First, we …
The Speaker The Speaker Hey, hey, hey! [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Brother Caines! Brother Caines! Here you go. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Mr. Speaker, let me say this. The reason why I bring up Cup Match is there have been many utterings in the public domain, and I have even heard some say (and quite a few) that they are concerned whether or not we should even have a Cup Match given …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo And I can say one of the Members who sits in this House often asks the question . . . he says it rhetorically, but I am going to say it anyway. Am I my brother’s keeper? And the answer to that: indeed we are our brother’s keeper. One would …
The Speaker The Speaker I am so glad St. George’s gets happy about a boat ride up and down. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker But, Member, we thank you for your contribution. Minister, you have your 20 minutes. BERMUDA COLLEGE —NEW PRESIDENT Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I certainly will not take 20 minutes. I want to thank the first two speakers who went before me. Nasir Wade . …
The Speaker The Speaker You made a mistake. [Laughter] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I dropped that little nugget on him when I met with him, but I will let him decide.
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Wade will sort him out, I am sure of that. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: You know, you have that experiment where you put the two toys and you just let them lead and watch which one the child goes to. But I am looking forward to working with …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes. ROYAL GAZETTE ARTICLE —HIGHLIGHTING UNCONSCIOUS RACISM IN BERMUDA Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Which the first round starts tomorrow. Another esteemed competition in our midst. But before I get to that, Mr. Speaker, there was something that really bothered me this morning when I woke up. And one of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Your first mistake. [Laughter] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Because I refuse to buy the newspaper —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Are we in it today? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —so that is my only . . . that is my only exposure to it is to see what is on the front page. Mr. Speaker, in light of the recent events that have affected us in Bermuda, for whatever …
The Speaker The Speaker Enjoy your County celebration. ROAD SAFETY —DISTRACTED DRIVING Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Bermuda, I urge you to reflect over the last few weeks of things that have happened in our Island. I encourage you to slow down. I am sure MP Lister will get up and talk about traffic. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member What, you are playing chicken? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: — coming towards me! And they just nipped over right at the last minute. I was like, what? It was 7:30 in the morning. Where were they going? Why do we have to do that? Value your life, peo-ple. Please …
The Speaker The Speaker Somerset. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And we will be celebrating in St. George’s when that does happen. Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Thank you, colleagues and I look forward to seeing you in September.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member, Minister. Oh . . . the seniority took over that time, Deputy. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Dennis is . . . he is real slow. [Laughter] CALL FOR COMMISSION OF INQUIRY INTO THE BANKS OF BERMUDA Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, …
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy, your comments bring a little humour to the afternoon. How is that, Deputy? We look forward to seeing the . . . August 1 st and 2nd. MP Lister, it looks like you are the only one standing. You have your 20 minutes. ROAD SAFETY —RESPONSIBLE DRIVING
Mr. Dennis Lister III Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I will not use up all 20 minutes. Good afternoon to the listening audience and to all of those in these Honourable Chambers, Mr. Speaker . I will start where others have spoken earlier, Mr. Speaker . We are in holiday season. Cup Match is …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Plan—put into plan or put into action a plan, how to get where you are going if you are planning on consuming alcohol, how to get home safely. That requires . . . and we have multiple options, Mr. Speaker . We have taxi drivers, minibuses. We have the newly …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Oh, we haven’t passed it. Well, it is soon to come, Mr. Speaker . There are options is what I will say, Mr. Speaker . That there is no need for anyone to say that they are going to go out, drink, consume alcohol or any other substance and then …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Undecided? [Inaudible interjections and laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker There is no neutral this time of year. There is no neutral ground for that one. MP Ming, would you like to add a little flavour to this afternoon as well?
Mrs. Renee Ming Yes, Mr. Speaker, I am sure you know I would love to add some flavour to this today.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, that means you like some red on there.
Mrs. Renee Ming Well, there will be no red.
The Speaker The Speaker Put a little red in that blue and blue you got there.
Mrs. Renee Ming I think you kind of already know that. [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming You already know that. [Laughter] PROTECT BERMUDA’S BEACHES
Mrs. Renee Ming There is no red. Trust me. Firstly though, Mr. Speaker, I want to give homage to the constituents of constituency 1 who provide me with the privilege of being able to sit in this House and I am very thankful to them for the confidence that they give to me …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mrs. Renee Ming The parochial is parochial, but national is national, Mr. Speaker . And I believe that our job here is to advocate for those who are actually outside of this place. Mr. Speaker, I have spoken passionately, and I have a lot of passion for those things that I truly believe …
Mrs. Renee Ming Mr. Speaker, I do want to now touch on the holiday season, because it would be remiss of me not to stand up here — [Inaudible interjection]
Mrs. Renee Ming Emancipation and Mary Prince, of course, that comes with one awesome game and a time of fellowship. Mr. Speaker, as we start to prepare for the Cup Match holiday, I want to just give a message to Bermuda of safety and good decisions. I don’t think I need to stand …
The Speaker The Speaker Convert? It is bad when you have to stretch it that far, you know. It is really bad when you have to stretch it that far.
Mrs. Renee Ming I have . . . I mean, you can have look and see just how many —
The Speaker The Speaker Really bad.
Mrs. Renee Ming —have converted to St. George’ s. [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming I think that that is just a premonition of what they know is coming, Mr. Speaker . And so they are preparing themselves. And that is okay. That is okay because we will welcome them —
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Bermuda House of Assembly Mrs. Renee Ming: —into our victory. I mean, yes, some Somerset people they will boast on for Somerset and lived in the threshes of St. George’s down there and loving down there in God’s country. I ain’t going to speak about your Sargeant -at-Arms because …
The Speaker The Speaker I think there is someone . . .
The Speaker The Speaker I believe there is someone in your household who actually supports Somerset!
Mrs. Renee Ming I don’t want to call any names.
The Speaker The Speaker Isn’t there a young lady in your household who supports Somerset? [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker In the heart of St. George’s .
Mrs. Renee Ming Don’t judge my parenting on my third child. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker She is a wonderful child. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ]
The Speaker The Speaker The best of the bunch, eh?
Mrs. Renee Ming Let’s just say she is one of the bunch. [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming So on that, Mr. Speaker, I just want to once again wish us a happy holiday.
Mrs. Renee Ming I hope that my message on protection and our advocacy and representation for our natural resources has been heard here today. And I also want to say that . . . I do not know how you guys . . . most of you in here have my phone number. …
The Speaker The Speaker You will be there for the victory —Somerset’s victory, yes.
Mrs. Renee Ming —that would absolutely drive me crazy. So I will be there. As you can see today, I am already representing from head to toe. But above all, I do want a good game and I say this every year. I want a good game. I want peace. But I really …
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to use this Bible to pray on? [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming No, no. I prayed already.
The Speaker The Speaker I have it here. Right at hand.
Mrs. Renee Ming That looks like a MAGA Bible , Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker It is right here for you.
Mrs. Renee Ming MAGA or MABA. [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming So I am going to stay away from that one. [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming You know the devil comes in many shapes, forms and colours.
The Speaker The Speaker Now, now.
Mrs. Renee Ming And that one looks a bit funny there, Mr. Speaker . But in any case, I wish Bermuda all the best. I wish for a safe holiday. I hope that my colleagues who sit in this place get to have some time off. And if they are not doing anything …
The Speaker The Speaker They supported you in it.
Mrs. Renee Ming I think you all know that I have a weekly seven o’clock Saturday walk. We will be walking in Somerset next week Saturday.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. 1598 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mrs. Renee Ming: It is our pre- Cup Match victory walk. It hasn’t worked out for me for the last four years, but you know, anything can happen and this year we are extremely hopeful.
The Speaker The Speaker They come up and try to do Indian rain dances around the field, see.
Mrs. Renee Ming With that thought, Mr. Speaker, I say thank you for allowing my time to speak. Prayers for a safe and wonderful holiday. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Ming. MP King, I see you rising. Would you like your 20 minutes, sir?
Mr. Robert King Yes, sir. I will try and use a few more minutes than last time.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. NO VALUE FOR MONEY SPENT BY THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION
Mr. Robert King I think that we have heard a lot of positive news from the Honourable Member s today in terms of the scholarships for our young Bermudians. I am very happy about that. The fact that the roads are getting fixed. I am encouraged by that. And I am also taken …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Honourable Deputy Speaker. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Walter H. Roban: I would not want the Honourable Member to unintentionally, due to (as you mentioned earlier) he is junior in the House, to mislead the House or the public about what he just mentioned about the guarantee. …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: It was a guarantee that will exist for the life of the actual projects, period.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Right. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Not an immediate cash outlay or guarantee.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker He has offered the correction, Honourable Member King.
Mr. Robert King Yes, I know that it was for 15 years. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Robert King Well, you rose to your feet.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Point taken.
Mr. Robert King Thank you. So the point is, hotel was closed 2020 and then we understand that the financing was predicated on the sale of units. And then we Bermuda House of Assembly learned that they are renovating the restaurants. Unless the hotel model has changed whereby you sleep where you eat …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Honourable Premier . . . yes, just take your seat for a minute, Mr. King. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Honourable Premier — Hon. E. David Burt: —is misleading the House. There is nothing in regard, as it was stated in this House during the debate before the Honourable Member got here, of the funding model that is predicated on the sale of units. It was covered. There were repeated …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I accept that, Honourable Premier. Mr. King, Honourable Member.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, sir. So, the point is that we still do not have a hotel. The other point is that we were . . . they advised that staff housing needed to be in place in order for the hotel rooms to be built. We had a hotel that had …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Mr. King, just have your seat. I recognise the Honourable Deputy [Premier]. Honourable Deputy. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Walter H. Roban: The Honourable Member is asking questions as if he were presenting them to the Government . That is a private development. If he has questions about the direction or …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —about the Fairmont Southampton development.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Very well. Thank you, Honourable Deputy.
Mr. King. Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. [Acting ] Speaker . I guess I should congratulate the developers for the refurbishments of the Waterlot [Inn] and the Beach Club at the expense of hotel rooms. I mean, when we are looking at the way money is being spent in this Island and you are …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The airport deal—you gave it away.
Mr. Robert King Well . . . and the hospital as well. That was the same Public Private Partnership [PPP] as the airport was and those persons — Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. [Acting ] Speaker .
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I recognise the Honourable Premier. Honourable Premier. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: I really hope that we don’t go there again today with this Honourable Member . The Honourable Member is misleading the House. It is clear and evident and a matter of fact. The public record …
Mr. Robert King Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. I mean, we are talking about splitting hairs essentially. Like I said, it’s value for money. — Hon. E. David Burt: Point of order, Mr. —
Mr. Robert King Of course.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, this is not an issue of splitting hairs. The Honourable Member said it was the same. The fact is that it is different. He is new here. He does not understand the difference between a concession contract and design/build …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Honourable Members, it is quite clear to me that we will obviously be going back and forth—
The Acting Speaker The Speaker —in this matter. The Premier has . . . Honourable Member , the Premier has offered clarification on this matter. Mr. King, I recommend that we steer clear.
Mr. Robert King No worries.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Rather than us preoccupy ourselves on this very comment.
Mr. Robert King No problem at all, sir. I have no problem.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member.
Mr. Robert King So, then that brings us to the National Stadium.
Mr. Robert King And when we are talking about good use of public dollars, it was our understanding that there was going to be a nice solar installation put in place. And yet we are paying approximately $600,000 a year in electricity bills knowing that the solar panel installation was going to save …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Mr. King, I recognise the Honourable Premier. Honourable Premier. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is misleading the House again. What he stated is not factual, to say that the solar panels are not operational. Again, he is coming to the House and giving false …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Mr. King, he has offered clarification again.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. [Acting ] Speaker . I mean, the point is like I said, value for money of the people’s hard- earned money. And we are not seeing it. We are looking at, you know, how things have been going in this country economically . . . not so …
Mr. Robert King —funds for the betterment of Bermudians. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Point of order. Point of order.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Can you just take your seat for just a brief moment? I recognise the Honourable Member , the Honourable Minister of Education. Honourable Minister. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Acting Speaker, the Member is [imputing] improper motives on the Mem-bers of this House. …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Let him finish, Honourable Member! I will take you in a minute. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —he still continues to say that there is bad stewardship.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Right. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: You cannot have it both ways, Mr. [Acting ] Speaker .
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Honourable Member, the Education Minister. I recognise— Mr . Scott Pearman: Point of order, Mr. Acting Speaker .
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Minister is misleading the House. We do not have a balanced budget. We have a projected balanced budget. We will not know if we are on a balanced budget until we see the end of the economic period. And at the rate we are going with extra money …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much, Honourable Member. I recognise Mr. King.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Acting Speaker. I appear to have struck a nerve late in the day.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You started a firestorm, if I didn’t — [ Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Mr. Robert King Well, that is —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker The one thing—
Mr. Robert King But that is okay.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker The one thing in this Honourable House, Mr. King, is that you are consistent. Carry on, please. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King Lovely. So the point I am making is when we are looking at value for money with this current administration and the result for the people of this Island, we are seeing increased costs. We are seeing increased violence. We are seeing less money in the pockets, and we are …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Please take your seat for one brief moment.
Mr. Robert King Sure. No problem.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker And we are going backwards and forwards on these points of order, but I will take the Premier’s. Premier? POINT OF ORDER Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member knows that we audit the financial statements of the Consolidated Fund every y ear. They c ome here. They …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou very much, Honourable Premier. Honourable Member, the Premier has offered clarification again.
Mr. Robert King For a point of clarification?
Mr. Robert King I was not speaking about the Consolidated Fund.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Clarify.
Mr. Robert King I was talking about the management of the 132 years of unaudited financ ial reports . That is what I was— [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Robert King According to the Auditor General.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Carry on, Mr. King. 1602 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: Point of order. Some Hon. Member s: Point of order, point of order, point of order.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker I will take the Deputy [Premier]. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motives] Hon. Walter H. Roban: The Honourable Member is [imputing], suggesting that whatever time of unaudited statements that he is suggesting are like only the responsibility of this Government. That is associated with the term of a number of …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you— Hon. Walter H. Roban: —which is unbecoming of a Member of this House. And his Member friends should actually check him as a junior Member of this House. It is ridiculous. It is ridiculous.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. I will recognise the Minister of Education. Did you have a point of order? The Minister does not.
Mr. King. Mr. Robert King Yes, sir. So — [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Robert King You should be embarrassed.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Mr. King, I am going to. I am going to—
Mr. Robert King No, no, no. That is no problem.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker At this minute, I am just going to ask, Mr. King if you refrain from . . . I see. I see what you are doing, and what you are doing with it. I got it.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker But the Premier has, on numerous occasions, risen. The Honourable Member , the Premier —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker —has risen on numerous occasions to correct. I would recommend that the line and length that you are currently on, that there be some deviation from that.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, sir.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Robert King So, I have made my point as it relates to good stewardship, and what the expectations are, and the lack of real progress towards improving the lives of Bermudians. Thank you, sir.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you very much, Mr. King. [Does] any other Member wish to speak to the motion to adjourn? I recognise the Honourable Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, you have the floor. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you— [Inaudible interjection] CUP MATCH Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you, Mr. [Acting] Speaker. I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ah! [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. Jarion Richardson: And one of the reasons I wanted to . . . I acknowledge the support given by my fellow colleagues saying that they have already spoken to it, and I do not . . . But I will take the opportunity afforded to …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, you have my attention, however you notice I have not started your time for the invaluable stuff you are presenting. [ Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker If you have not noticed as of yet. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Ain’t that . . .
The Acting Speaker The Speaker We have not seen the value of it as of yet. Hon. Jarion Richardson: We have got everybody awake on that. All right. Yes. So, I wanted to talk about Cup Match because it is the one time—
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jarion Richardson: It is something so unique to Bermuda. In other countries we have when people split apart, they split apart, and it literally becomes quite a big difference between the various communities in those countries. And in Bermuda, we show the rest of the world how to …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Opposition Leader. I now recognise the Honourable Deputy [Premier]. Honourable Deputy, you now have your 20 minutes. CUP MATCH Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Acting Speaker. I also would like to echo the message to the country that we all hope that next …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —and love will bring out the best in us. We hope that it brings out the best on the cricket pitch. We hope that it brings out the best in every corner of our Island. As has been referenced, there has been much challenge over …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: There will certainly never be many days going forward when we do not remember this period, but I do think that one thing is that the holiday coming up can bring people a sense of feeling good about who we are. And I would just …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Right. Hon. Walter H. Roban: So, I look forward to the holiday even if not just for that reason but also to see good cricket and see Somerset once again be victorious.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Excellent. Excellent. [Inaudible interjections ] Hon. Walter H. Roban: But having said that —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Excellent, Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —I do recognise that. And of course, you know, our St. George’s friends in this House are getting a little agitated.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I understand that. Maybe that is a part of the energy that they are cultivating for themselves. I only hope that they bring that energy to the field—
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You are speaking no untruth, Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —and make sure it brings a good game. Take that energy to the field. [Inaudible interjection and laughter ] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Walter H. Roban: He is trying to . . . The Honourable Deputy Speaker is trying …
The Acting Speaker The Speaker It’s for your merit but carry on, Deputy. Hon. Walter H. Roban: That is all right. Throwing kryptonite at me. That is all right. [Laughter and inaudible interjection] Hon. Walter H. Roban: To his cousin who lives in my house.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Anyway —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s not what he is saying. [Laughter ] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, he is certainly trying something on, I know that —
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —from where he sits.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You have spoken no untruth thus far, Deputy. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Carry on. Hon. Walter H. Roban: You see that? I hear it. All this intimidation coming from the St. George’s camp. [Laughter]
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Continue with your attention in this direction. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, I will continue to keep your attention—
The Acting Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: —Mr. [Acting] Speaker.
The Acting Speaker The Speaker You are doing very well at it. GOVERNMENT COMMITTED TO ADDRESSING HIGH COST OF ELECTRICITY Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you very much. This week the Government took some bold steps in the face of what is a part of the unfortunate reality that we are all living, not only …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? No one else rising, Premier, I guess it is your 20 minutes. ROAD SAFETY —RESPONSIBLE DRIVING Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member for constituency 1 said it looks like …
The Speaker The Speaker Red is good. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Although, the cover of it says hope , and you know that is what those people from the east side are going to need, hope. A whole lot of hope. But I will get to Cup Match at the end, Mr. Speaker …
The Speaker The Speaker Good. Hon. E. David Burt: —because as you know I was up extraordinarily late (or as I say early ) this morning getting ready for Parliament.
The Speaker The Speaker I wonder how I knew that? [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: Because you were up as well, Mr. Speaker. I was shocked when I sent you an email that late and you replied back and told me to get some rest. But there we are. Mr. Speaker, unfortunately, I did …
The Speaker The Speaker I have one in my car. Hon. E. David Burt: I am saying it is just . . . I . . . I . . . Some of the things I have seen are shocking. And especially if I am driving my family. Like, children get scared because they …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. E. David Burt: No, I mean, that is probably the reality. And the fact is that through the work of the Road Safety Council continuing to promote . . . continuing . . . But one of the things that I spoke about last week is …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I will. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: But what I would say, Mr. Speaker, is that people are far too quick to be loose with their lips, to make unfounded accusations of ille-gality against members of the leadership of this country without any evidence— without anything— and feel that it …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes! Yes! [Desk thumping and laughter ] CUP MATCH
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier, you brought everybody to their feet when you said that. Everybody rose automat-ically, so I take it that they rose in support of that victory in Somerset. And there is so much [that has] been said this evening about how wonderful the game is going to be in …
The Speaker The Speaker There will be a change. I agree to that, Deputy. I do agree to that. So, I am glad we are on the same page. I am glad we are on the same page. And those are humorous remarks. WELL WISHES DURING HOLIDAY SEASON
The Speaker The Speaker Let me just be serious and say we wish you all well during this holiday season. Remember what the season is about. I think the Premier put it in proper context just now —the Emancipation. And the fact that 1610 19 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Go on!
The Speaker The Speaker Our forefathers took it as a way of celebrating that Emancipation, and a holiday came about because of their consistent efforts to ensure that we had a means to celebrate that —we chose how we want to celebrate. Let us never forget that. It is a time for us to …
The Speaker The Speaker Need I say anymore? The House now stand adjourned until the 20 th of September. [Gavel] [At 6:43 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday, 20 September 2024.]
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