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House of Assembly Session 2023/2024 373 speeches

July 12, 2024

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The Premier addressed recent tragic violence including multiple homicides, emphasizing the need for community cooperation and additional government resources to address root causes. The government announced significant reductions in pension fees that will save workers hundreds of dollars annually toward retirement. Ministers provided updates on critical infrastructure projects at the Tynes Bay waste facility and new educational partnerships connecting students with local businesses for real-world learning experiences.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jul 12, 2024
Session 2023/2024
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Speakers 17
Speeches 373

Key Topics

Recent violent incidents and murders affecting Bermuda communitiesReduction of pension administration fees to help retirement savingsUpdates on Tynes Bay waste facility repairs and upgradesNew learning partnerships between schools and local businessesDigital bus fare payment system launch and initial challenges

Bills & Motions

Development and Planning Amendment Act 2024 - tabled (gives planning board more discretion to approve retroactive applications)

Notable Moments

Premier made emotional appeal for community unity and cooperation with police following recent spike in violence
Government announced pension fee caps that could save workers over $75,000 during a 40-year career
Minister of Works warned that Tynes Bay facility remains at risk of "catastrophic failure" despite ongoing repairs

Debate Transcript

373 speeches from 17 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. The Clerk will lead us in prayer this morning. PRAYERS [Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner , Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker The House is now in session. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 28 June 2024]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of 28 June have been circulated. Are there any amendments required? There are none. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [Minutes of 28 June 2024 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker We have been informed that the following Members will be absent today: MP Jamahl Simmons, MP Renee Ming and MP Kim Swan. SUPPORT ING BERMUDA’ S OLYMPIC - BOUND ATHLETES
The Speaker The Speaker Also, Members, on your desks each of you should see a nice pink pin. These are from the Olympic Association. As our team prepares to go off and represent Bermuda at this year ’s Olympics, the Olympic Association has sent us pins for each Member here to proudly display as …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are two such papers this morning, both in the name of the Minister of Finance. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. OFFICE OF THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONER AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2022 BERMUDA MONETARY AUTHORITY ANNUAL REPORT 2023 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the information of the Honourable House of Assembly the Audited Financial …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. 1472 12 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker There are eight such Statements this morning. The first is in the name of the Premier/Minister of Finance. Premier, would you like to present your Statement at this time? TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —PREMIER COMMITTED TO ALLOCATING ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO BREAK CYCLE OF VIOLENCE IN BERMUDA Hon. E. David …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. The second Statement is also in your name. Would you like to proceed with that one? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. EQUITY FOR PENSIONS Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning in this Hono urable House to announce that beginning April 1, 2025, thanks to the collaborative efforts of the Government, the Pension Commission and local pension plan administrators, the people of Bermuda will benefit …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. UPDATE ON THE TYNES BAY WASTE- TO-ENERGY FACILITY
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I rise to remind us all that the Tynes Bay Waste -to-Energy Facility r emains at a critical point and that the Ministry of Public Works continues its efforts to address the cur-rent state of affairs. Mr. Speaker, you will recall back in December 2021 the Island was …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , honourable colleagues may recall that in the aforementioned Statement I announced that there was a catastrophic failure of one of the two overhead refuse cranes , which happened in April 2022. During normal operation of the crane, the entire hoist and access platform collapsed as the support …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , another project identified as a priority was the refurbishment of the facility ’s distribution transformers . As such, an open request for proposals (RFP s) was issued in March 2023 to seek qualified contractors that can complete the work. After a successful procurement process, the contract was …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , not to get too technical for this project, as I am not an engineer, but the Tynes Bay plant utili ses two steam turbines coupled with a generator to transform the energy released from the burning of refuse in the incinerator into electrical energy. This electrical energy …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , another priority project is the replacement of two travelling band screens at the facility ’s Sea Water Screening Plant. These band screens (which are over 30 years old) remove debris from seawater before it is pumped to the cooling system for the turbine. Failing to remove debris …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker , this Government is committed to our local companies, and this is demonstrated by seeking qualified contractors for works that are not extremely specialised in nature. Of the four projects I have mentioned, two are being performed by local companies who we have the upmost confidence can deliver. …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch But, Mr. Speaker , these are not the only projects happening simultaneously re-garding Tynes Bay. As I have said before, the f acility is integral to the management of the waste that the Island produces. Without [the facility] , we would be landfilling all of our waste —contrary to best …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Education. (Yes. I had the National Security heading on my form.) Yes, Minister of Education. EDUCATION REFORM UPDATE —LEARNING PARTNERSHIPS Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker , today …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of National Security. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning to you, my colleagues and the listening audience. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, today I stand before this Honourable House like most Bermudians with a heavy heart, deeply disturbed and disgusted by the recent surge of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. COMMUNITIES OF SUPPORT FOR FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to address a matter that has deeply affected our community. Bermuda is mourning the recent tragic losses that have touched us all. My heart aches as we reflect on the deaths that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of the Cabinet Office. Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if I may, prior to starting my Statement, just [make] a comment?
The Speaker The Speaker Just a brief comment? Hon. Vance Campbell: A brief comment, a brief comment. I just want to echo the sentiments expressed by the Premier, Minister of Health and Minister of Na-tional Security.
The Speaker The Speaker Actually, you know what? Go on with your regular Statement, because everybody has al-ready expressed it. Hon. Vance Campbell: Okay. Okay.
The Speaker The Speaker You know, we have got motion to adjourn, and I will let you— [Crosstalk] Hon. Vance Campbell: Oh, I will do it on motion to adjourn. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to inform this Honourable House that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the final Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister. DIGITAL FARE MEDIA—LAUNCHED 8 JULY 2024 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And good morning to everyone, and good morning to Ber-muda. Mr. Speaker, in the 2023 Bermuda Government …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that brings us to a close of the Statements for this morning. And we now move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PREMIER’S QUESTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker Members, today is the second Friday in the month, which means we have Premier’s Questions today. So, the Premier’s Questions on the Order Paper. And we will get the Premier’s Questions. 1482 12 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Just as a reminder, it is 30 minutes …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: GOVERNMENT’S STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE RISING VIOLENCE Hon. Jarion Richardson: Good morning to my colleagues and the listening audience. Given the recent violence that has shocked our community and shaken us to our core, would the Honourable Premier please describe the Government’s strategy to address the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Given the nature of the changes are ongoing, my question to the Premier is then, What has changed regarding the increased violence? Because it sounds like we are doing exactly what we were doing before.
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, what I will say is that I know the Honourable Member is a former police of-ficer. And what I am not going to do is come here and quote crime statistics, because though the police will state that overall crime has fallen, we …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Second question? QUESTION 2: GOVERNMENT’S STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE RISING VIOLENCE Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Indeed I do, Mr. Speaker, in terms of this being a matter of priority in our community. But what I would especially do is make sure that we keep an eye on this matter. …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Gang Violence Reduction Team has a team of over 25 counsellors in the community. There are at -risk youth who are identified, who are put into counselling, who are offered em-ployment opportunities. It is happening on a number of things. So, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: I thank the Honourable Premier for bringing up the work undertaken by the Gang Violence Reduction Team. I would ask the Honourable Premier . . . obviously, this enterprise costs money, costs taxpayer money. My question relates to, Is it working? And so my question …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I think that the intervention and work, the work that I have seen, the work that I have experienced personally, the work that I know that is taking place, the number of individuals who are seen, who are intervened with are yielding results …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second supplementary or third question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Third question.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 3: GOVERNMENT’S STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE RISING VIOLENCE —PROTECTION OF OFFICERS IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR DUTIES Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Honourable Premier for inviting the Opposition to contribute to these notes. To that end, I would thank Members [to understand] …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I thank the Honourable Member for raising that. I know that this is an issue Bermuda House of Assembly that has come to my attention. I do not have the specifics on this. I can have an undertaking to get back to the …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: None, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker None. Okay. That is the end of your three questions from the Opposition Leader. MP Jackson, would you like to put your question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: HITCH DISPATCH COMPANY FARE RATES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson My question to the Premier/Minister of Finance is, Will the Premier as Minister of Finance, who legislates taxi metres fares, please explain how local dispatcher HITCH Dispatch Company Limited is able to charge triple the metred rate for customers paying to travel from Cup Match this year?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. [Pause]
The Speaker The Speaker I am trying to tie that to a response that falls . . . You are directing it to the Minister of Finance. I am thinking Transport, but . . . Okay. Explain your point again.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson The Minister of Finance is the one who sets the metred rate for taxi drivers, for the taxis. And so I just want to know if the Premier, as Minister of Finance who regulates taxi fares, can allow HITCH, a local dispatch company, to charge triple the rate t o …
The Speaker The Speaker No, I was just thinking who is responsible for the fare. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker If you are not responsible for the fare, I do not think you can respond to it. So, it is actually the Minister of Transport who is responsible for the fare.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So I was told by the Minister of Transport that the Ministry of Finance sets the fares for the taxi industry, the metred fares.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Wow! Oh, wow! Uh -oh. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It is the Premier’s response. But, Minister of Transport, I am going to give you an opportunity to clar-ify what you may or may not have said. Would you …
The Speaker The Speaker She was not being personal. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No, I am not being personal either, Mr. Speaker. But she is being personal in saying that I said it.
The Speaker The Speaker No, no, no, no. She did not get personal in a negative way. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Oh, okay.
The Speaker The Speaker She implied that she was . . . her line of questioning was based on a conversation that she had with the Minister of Transport. If you feel as the Minister 1486 12 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly of Transport comments were not as she stated, …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson, the Minister is saying that he in no way implied that.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Mr. Speaker, during the budget [debate] or prior to budget, I asked about the increase in taxi metred fares. And I was told that the approval of any increase to taxi metres needed to be approved by the Ministry of Finance.
The Speaker The Speaker And, Member, that question was asked in this House?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson This question was asked outside of this House during a briefing prior to the 2024 budget season.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. I was asking specifically if it was in this House, because if it was in this House there would be a record somewhere of it, [in] the Hansard, et cetera. If it was outside of this House in a side conversation, I am in a difficult position to decide …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. So, if you would like to put your question in a different time and a different setting, the question should go directly to the Minister of Transport and not to the Premier. Okay? That is the best I can do for you. I cannot rule on a …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson All right. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Members, Members, I do not need any assistance. I do not need any assistance at all. Your whole questions were based on that, so I am assuming there are no other questions? Okay.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I only had one question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, yes, that is true. One question, two supplementaries. No problem. Okay? We will move on. The next Member who has a question is MP Adams. Would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: GOVERNMENT’S EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION SYSTEM
Mr. Jache Adams Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I think we all can agree that education is one of society’s most essential tools for creating pathways and providing opportunities. And it is also a powerful way to combat the impacts of community violence. Can the Honourable Premier please advise what this Government has done …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Member for his question. Because as I stated in my comments to the press yesterday, education and opportunity are important items. The first thing is to make sure that the resources are there and availabl e, …
Mr. Jache Adams Yes, Mr. Speaker. I want to thank the Premier for that response. Mr. Speaker, cost is a major factor that students and their families must consider when discussing further education. Can the Honourable Premier please advise how the Government is assisting students when it comes to the cost of furthering …
The Speaker The Speaker [No audio.]
Mr. Jache Adams No, thanks.
The Speaker The Speaker [No audio. ] QUESTION 1: MPs HIRED AS CONSULTANTS
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you, and good morning, colleagues. At present, Premier, are there any MPs as of today who are hired as consultants for any particular ministries? Hon. E. David Burt: I would say absolutely. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Supplemental? Can the Premier name those MPs who are consultants? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, what I will not do is to try to provide a list, as I may not know. And then there will be criticisms in regard to whether or not those persons are consultants or …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Not yet, not yet, not yet. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker [No audio. ] 1488 12 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: I get that.
The Speaker The Speaker [No audio. ]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A bit hard to believe but thank you very much. I will accept it. And the supplemental will be, When can I get the list, then? Can you give me a specific time? Hon. E. David Burt: Happy to have the Cabinet Office review …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Cannonier, you have had yours. The next is MP Pearman. MP Pearman, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: CLEAN AIR LEGISLATION EXTENSION REQUEST REFUSED
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Honourable Premier, your Government is proposing legislative changes around clean air coming on the back of the BELCO emissions concerns. Government allowed only three weeks for the consultation period, and stakeholders have requested an extension of time and have been denied that request for an extension …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr, Speaker, this is a very important matter. It is something that the Government does not wish to delay further. It is something that affects many of our constituents. And what we are going to do is to make sure to move forward, press forward …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. [Timer chimes]
The Speaker The Speaker Let me just reset the clock to the 60 minutes so that we can do the regular Question Period, and we will move on at that point. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker We now have completed the Premier’s Questions. We now move on to [questions on the] Statements that were given this morning. And from the Statements this morning we do have questions. If you note on the Order Paper there was a written set of written questions this morning to go …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning. Thank you, Honourable Premier. In your Statement you referred to reforms in relation to pensions and the capping of fees by pension providers. You referred to this being collaborative between the Government and the pension administrators. And you referred to private sector. So …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Before I answer the question, does the Honourable Member have an interest to declare in this mat-ter?
Mr. Scott Pearman All of my interests are declared on the website of the Parliament, and I do have a pension, yes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just for full note, I know that [the Honourable Member’s] declarations do include matters related to Bermuda Fire and Marine and also Argus …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order. Those interests are declared on the public website in accordance with the law. Thank you. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Yes. I was about to say that we like to make sure that Members keep that registry current. And I think his is current on that. …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: The government pension plans do not have these particular administration fees of which the Honourable Member is referring to. And I think that it is important to note that particular matter. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: I am grateful that the Honourable Member has mentioned …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, I believe in the Premier’s answer he just said that the government pension fund, the public service superannuation fund, does not have any fees. That is not a budgeted item in the Government budget. How does that run, and how are costs taken from that fund if it has …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplemental. Looking for a straight answer to a straight question. Will there be any change to the government sector pension fees? Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: So the thing is, Mr. Speaker, there are not individual fees, because the Government plan is not individual plans. However, I am …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second question? No further question. Thank you. MP De Silva, did you still wish to ask your question? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I do, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 1: EQUITY FOR PENSIONS Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Premier, I think it is fantastic that this Government, and I repeat this Government, is taking action to ensure that those persons in my constituency will have a larger retirement balance when they retire. The Premier has …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the Honourable Member for his question. The Pension Commission has estimated that since its inception the total amount of fees that has been collected is in the area of $500 million in gross administration fees for pension administrators. …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I certainly do. The Honourable Premier cannot be correct in this statement. He cannot be. Is the Premier telling this House that pension administrators have collected half a billion [sic] dollars since 1998 when this legislation was introduced by …
The Speaker The Speaker Put your question. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. Half a billion [sic] dollars, Mr. Speaker, is $19 million a year, or $1.6 million a month. Can the Premier tell me if this is correct?
The Speaker The Speaker I think the question is answered already. He said it was half a million , not $500 billion. Hon. E. David Burt: So what I will say, Mr. Speaker, is that we will have an opportunity to debate this legislation in the future when it comes and the specific changes. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second supplementary? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am grateful for the Premier’s confirmation of that staggering figure of $500 million a month, $500 billion over that period, which is $1.6 million a month. So I thank him for that. But …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. That is the end of questions for you on that Statement, Premier. Members, thank you for your par-ticipation. The next Statement that has questions is that of the Minister of Transport. Minister of Transport, you have questions from MP Jackson. MP Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My first question is the Minister of Transport had mentioned the five —
The Speaker The Speaker Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Sorry, Mr. Speaker. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. All right. QUESTION 1: DIGITAL FARE MEDIA —LAUNCHED 8 JULY 2024
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister of Transport had mentioned the five-year relationship with Paragon that has the Shorelink digital fare technology. And my question is, Will the Paragon or Shorelink (I am going to refer to it as Shorelink) be the provider of all of the additio nal features …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question, okay. QUESTION 2: DIGITAL FARE MEDIA —LAUNCHED 8 JULY 2024
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Will the Transport Minister please explain the payment method? And by payment method I am referring to, Will the funds that are used online through Shorelink to pay for these passes, are those going to be processed locally through the local banks? Because [the Honourable Minister] mentioned that Shorelink has …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: No.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker Or third question? Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Will the Transport Minister just explain to us that payment processes then? So when you pay with your credit card through the Shorelink app, is that money processed through a local company? Can you explain that?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It is only the app that goes to Paragon. All of the money flows through the banks here in Bermuda.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or third question? QUESTION 3: DIGITAL FARE MEDIA —LAUNCHED 8 JULY 2024
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. So would the Minister be willing to name how that money is being transitioned through? Are we using a local company to process the payments through this app? If he could just explain that, please.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I do not understand. Mr. Speaker, I hear what the Honourable Member is saying. But I do not get through all the technological aspect of it. The money flows and is handled by the company in general, et cetera, et cetera, and it flows through …
The Speaker The Speaker I think you provided the answer when you said that the money just goes through Bermuda into the transport as a payment here locally. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay? I am trying to help everybody here; that is all I am trying to do. It seems like it is going 1492 12 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly to go through the regular structure of payment in Bermuda. Okay. All right. Any other further questions …
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member like to make a contribution at this time? Any Member? None? [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Oh. MP Lister, you jumped down there pretty quickly —or slowly that time, I should say. So, you have got your three minutes.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this has been a very sad and heavy week in Bermuda. And while I do not know the names of all of those involved, I do just want to send condolences to the families of those whom we lost this week, Mr. Speaker. It …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Betschart.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Betschart. Oliver Betschart, who was representing Bermuda and participating in the Scottish Boys’ Under -16 Open Championship for golf. And he finished in fourth place out of, I believe, 170something other young boys. So, Mr. Speaker, again Bermudians are pushing the ceiling, pushing and showing our weight that we can …
The Speaker The Speaker [No audio. ]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, good morning. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences for those whom we lost this week. I do not think I know any of the people who have been named. But like many in this country, it causes you to pause and reflect and …
The Speaker The Speaker [No audio. ]
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, like most of us in this Chamber, the first thing I do on a morning is look at the obituaries. And I happened to see a name there that I was Bermuda House of Assembly associated with a very, very long …
The Speaker The Speaker [No audio] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to be associated with the condolences which have been offered already and which I have expressed in forums and private forums. And I certainly associate all Members of the House with that and ask that the …
The Speaker The Speaker [INAUDIBLE] [Crosstalk] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: —had a lot of potential, Mr. Speaker. So, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the remarks on the passing of Ms. Dorothy Matthews[ - Paynter], and also all of those who have lost …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Good morning to the House. Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to the people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I rise to be associated with the condolences on the tragic loss of the two young Berkeleyites. They graduated last year. They were in my grandson’s year. I watched them through their …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other — Minister Furbert. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is much grief spread throughout our Island the past couple of weeks. I my-self also would like to be associated with the condolences for the families, the Parfitt family as well as …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Richardson, Anthony Richardson.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker, to my colleagues and the listening audience. Mr. Speaker, I want to stand today to say that Bermuda has lost another son of the soil since our last House sitting. And it is a personal one for me, Mr. Speaker, because the man actually called …
Mr. Anthony Richardson But, Mr. Speaker, he was a well-regarded unionist for both the BIU and later the BPSU, and a long- serving member of the Bermuda Credit Union, ultimately becoming a trustee. [Inaudible interjection] Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Anthony Richardson: And MP Burgess has reflected the fact that when he was …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Richardson. MP De Silva, you have your three minutes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to join in giving condolences to the Parfitt and the Sherlock families from Southampton with the recent loss of their family . Carol …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I was not going to come today, but someone encouraged me to come. Mr. Speaker, I speak on behalf of a parish that is in mourning, two parishes that are in mourning. We have lost a young girl, lady, her two young children. I know in Somerset there …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP King, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I echo the sentiments of Honourable Members in the House in reference to grief and loss that this community and the families have experienced. It is an absolute tragedy. On a brighter note, though, I just wanted to commend the Post Office workers at Crawl Post …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you. Minister of Education. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just want to stand to join in with all of the comments about the tragedies that have happened this past week. I spoke with the grandmother of one of the shooting …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member? MP Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you again, Mr. Speaker. I share in the sentiments, of course, by all to the last tragic events that have taken place over the week. It is certainly a solemn time. On a high note, though, I would like to congratulate, Mr. Speaker, a former Parliamentarian, Mem-ber—I believe …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Any other Member? Any other Member? No other Member. We will move on. Thank you. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are three Government Bills to be introduced this morning. The first is a Bill in the name of the Premier. But, Minister of Transport, are you going to introduce it? Yes. Bermuda House of Assembly BILL FIRST READING CORPORATE INCOME TAX AGENCY ACT 2024 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister of Health. BILL FIRST READING BERMUDA HOSPITALS BOARD AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting, namely, the Bermuda Hospitals …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. And Minister Campbell. BILL FIRST READING DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the Development and Planning Amendment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Order of the Day has us addressing the second reading of the West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 in the name of the Minister of Public Works. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled the West End Development Corpo-ration Amendment Act 2024 be now read a second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING WEST END DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AMENDMENT ACT 2024
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I introduce the Bill entitled the West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024. This Bill seeks to provide for the transfer of the assets, liabilities and functions of the Bermuda Land Development Company, Ltd. [BLDC], to the West End Development Corporation [WEDCO]; to amend the West End Development …
The Speaker The Speaker We are trying to get you to a good point where you can pause.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I can pause wherever you like, Mr. Speaker. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Okay. Well, we can pause now then if that is the case. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Shall I move that we adjourn for lunch and return at two?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, Minister. That would be a good thing to do at this time. Members, is there any objection to our rising for lunch? There is none. Minister, you can mark your spot right there.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we now stand adjourned until 2:00 pm. Thank you. [Gavel] Proceedings suspended at 12:31 pm Proceedings resumed at 2:02 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair]
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. I trust everyone had a good lunch. We will now proceed where we stopped from this morning and the Minister of Works is on the floor leading us in the debate for today in reference to the West End Development [Corporation] Amendment Act [2024]. Members, the House …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, you marked your spot and you can start from there.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, I did. But I am going to go back two sentences.
The Speaker The Speaker Go back two sentences?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch At the beginning of the paragraph—
The Speaker The Speaker Sure, go right ahead.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch —so that the full context is appreciated. BILL SECOND READING WEST END DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AMENDMENT ACT 2024 [Continuation thereof]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, most importantly and as I have said before, there will be no job losses resulting from this merger. Pre- merger and operating independently, WEDCO had a staff comple-ment of 37 people and BLDC 28. Today as we move to combine the two entities, we will have a total …
The Speaker The Speaker Oh, okay. Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. 1500 12 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, I do not believe that we will be too long. We do have a few questions in Com-mittee. One of those major questions, actually on the last part of what the Honourable Minister has just mentioned, was this meeting of minds between the unions and Government to ensure that …
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to assist you from where you started. Mr. PS.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, PS! His new PS.
The Speaker The Speaker —Mr. Dias from . . . the general manager.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, yes, general manager, PS. And then the gentleman?
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Simmons.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Simmons? [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Simons.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Simons.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Simons. Okay, all right. Thank you for that, Mr. Speaker . I appreciate that. I guess historically it has been . . . WEDCO always kind of set the standard. They were always push-ing forward. I recall many conversations with Mr. Dias in his capacity while we were Government, and …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier What am I talking about? I am talking about what I know. I am grateful for this here. And as I have said already, one of the major questions that was of concern has already been answered and we can go into depth. This is going back, as the Minister …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Cannonier. MP Tyrrell, are you rising to make a comment?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Yes, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker You have the floor.
The Speaker The Speaker It is nice to see you waving those colours today. Very good.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, that was not me. You know that.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh . . . the observation was that it was off of your desk. [Laughter]
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Mr. Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity to speak on this Bill. But let me first declare some interests because (in case anyone says anything), for a while, I was actually a member of the BLDC board and since which I have actually been chairman of the WEDC …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Tyrrell. Does any other Member . . . MP Anthony Richardson.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker , and to my colleagues. Mine might be a bit of a surprising contribution, but I am going to be brief. And I will say that I sometimes comment on the fact that when we are here in the House, we are able to do things …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to get up and applaud the Minister for getting this amalgamation across the finish line, and I certainly would like to commend the management and staff of both BLDC and in particular WEDCO for having been able to bring this together and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Jackson. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I would like to join all colleagues in this House (as it seems). This is one of the few oc-casions when …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a— none? Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I will take advantage of the opportunity to comment on some of the comments made by colleagues, all of whom are supportive of this effort. In the case of the departures from BLDC primarily, I think of the nine departures . . . well, you …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. House in Committee at 2:34 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL WEST END DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further consideration of the Bill entitled the West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 . Colonel Burch, you have the floor.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will move the clauses in two tranches. So, I will move that clauses 1 through 6 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Yes.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Clause 1 provides the title for the Bill . Clause 2 defines BLDC, the principal Act and the repealed Act. Clause 3 effects the statutory transfer of all of the assets, liabilities and functions of the BLDC to the West End Development Corporation, subject to the transitional provisions and savings …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Colonel. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Susan . . .
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have a question on [clause] 3(1) where it says that all of the assets, liabilities and functions of the BLDC are transferred to the West End Development Corporation. Just wondering whether the Minister might be able to give us an indication of assets in …
The Chairman Chairman Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? There appear to be none. Minister . . . oh, I . . . I . . . Mr. Scott. I didn’t know you were there.
Mr. Scott Pearman Oh, that is okay. And I am sorry. I will have to apologise to you, Mr. Chairman, because I didn’t know what clauses we were doing at this moment.
The Chairman Chairman [Clauses] 1 through 6.
Mr. Scott Pearman [Clauses] 1 through 6. Then I will wait. My question is on clause 7. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Cannonier?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 5, talking there, [subsection] (1), the post General Manager of West End Development Bermuda House of Assembly Corporation is now renamed as CEO, Chief Executive Officer. Just curious as to . . . with these efficiencies then, does that require an understanding that the …
The Chairman Chairman Okay, any further speakers? There appear to be none. Colonel.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay, Mr. Chairman, in relation to all of the assets, I do not have a list of what those are. But I certainly can provide them and the same applies to liabilities. But I will say this, in relation to the audited financial statements for both entities, WEDCO is on …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch He already got an increase in salary when he took on the combined entities. But I would say that there is very little difference be-tween the two roles in the sense that WEDCO was called a GM traditionally, and so it stayed. BLDC was called the CEO, and that stayed. …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Colonel, do you want to move the first six clauses?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Yes, Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 6 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 6 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 6 passed.]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I move clauses 7 through 12.
The Chairman Chairman Continue.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Clause 7 amends section 20 of the principal Act (general powers in relation to property). Subsection (1A) is replaced to clarify that, without prejudice to its full power to acquire, hold and dispose of land under subsection (1), the Corporation may grant a leasehold interest over land in the scheduled …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Colonel. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Scott Pearman. You have the floor, Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to the Honourable and gallant Minister. I have three questions arising under clause 7 [amending section 20 of the principal Act]. The first is in respect to the newly inserted [subsection] (1A) and it is dealing with the point of the years relating …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Mr. Pearman. Any further speakers? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 8, Powers of the Corporation: electronic communication services. Just curious there, where it says to provide electronic communication ser-vices . . . could the Honourable M inister give us an example of those electronic communication services he is talking about, Internet or whatever it might …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay, I need some help—
The Chairman Chairman Yes. The good Lord is here. [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman Members and listening audience, we are in the Committee stage of the West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 led by the Honourable Minister Lt. Col. David Burch.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, sir.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I have things in my head but sometimes I have to have them validated by ex-perts. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Okay, so in relation to the first question about years to disposition —WEDCO 120 [years], BLDC 262 [years]. Why are we going to 262? Essentially this provides for wider investment op-portunities in the land, but the impetus for it at this stage obviously is Google and the conversations that we …
The Chairman Chairman Let me just see if anybody else has any questions.
The Chairman Chairman Anyone else have any questions? Now you can proceed, Colonel.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses [7] through 12 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses [7] through 12 be approved. Are there any objections? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 7 through 12 passed.]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch So, I would like to move the three Schedules and have a brief comment on those, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Bermuda House of Assembly Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch: Schedule 1 inserts by way of section 3 a new Fourth Schedule into the principal Act which contains standard form savings and transitional provisions relating to the transfer of BLDC’s functions. Schedule 2 inserts by way of section 6 …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And I ask that those be approved, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses [sic] 1 and 2 be approved. Are there any objections . . . Schedules, I am sorry (Thank you, Ms. Beale.) be ap-proved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Schedules 1 and 2 are approved.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I move—
The Chairman Chairman And [Schedule] 3. Yes, I got it. And [Schedule] 3. [Motion carried: Schedules 1 through 3 passed.]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Mr. Speaker. [Motion carried: The West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 was considered by …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. It has been reported. Members, with the close of that matter it brings us to a close of the order of business for …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker . SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 be now read the third time by its title only.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING WEST END DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AMENDMENT ACT 2024
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Members, for your participation. Premier. 1508 12 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Friday, July 19.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? None. Does anybody wish to speak to that? Deputy Speaker, you rose pretty quickly that time. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I am getting ready for Cup Match.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. [Laughter] TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —SEEKING ACTION FROM GOVERNMENT HOUSE Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Mr. Speaker, with the tragedies that have occurred this week, Bermuda is asking for some leadership here in terms of policing. Many think that the Government is in charge of the police. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. MP King. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —POLICE SERVICE UNDERFUNDED
Mr. Robert King Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A lot of statements have been made here with regard to the tragedies that have happened in this Island. We all agree that this should never happen in this beautiful Island. We are 100 per cent in agreement with that. The fundamental problem I have is …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I have never said that it was not our fault, the violence. I am saying that something has to be done about it, and by those who are responsible. Never once did I say that.
The Speaker The Speaker Point taken.
Mr. Robert King Thank you for clarification. And he was suggesting that persons ought to march up on, not Parliament Hill, but Government Hill; up to Government House. The House is not actually up on top of a hill anymore, but wherever it is right now. Although we have a Minister of National …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Honourable Member is I think [intentionally] misleading this House with that comment and it should be withdrawn.
The Speaker The Speaker I am letting him . . . see where it develops. I am going to hold him if he goes too far.
Mr. Robert King Basically, what we are looking at is we have a Government, we have a majority, and we know what is required to deal with the issues of violence. And we know that the police have said that they are underfunded. They do not have the resources. But instead of funding …
Mr. Robert King We have no casino at all, and the police need resources to actually do something about the violence. And we think this is a good use of re-sources for the people of this country. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King Facts. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King Well, it is ignorance then, because nothing is being done about it. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Robert King That’s all I have to say. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker. Point of order, please.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Right. First of all, let me say, right, that what we experience right now in this country should not be politicised.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Thank you. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Right? Let’s start there.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hmm. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay? And when we are talking about policemen being underfunded, it is more than a police problem. It is a community problem. And this just didn’t start yesterday. So if you are going to get up on your feet, please come with a solution, man. …
The Speaker The Speaker You made your point. You can’t make a statement then. You made your point. Continue. Continue, MP. You can continue. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker You are finished?
Mr. Robert King Yes, I’m finished.
The Speaker The Speaker Oh. Minister Furbert. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —THE SERIOUS BUSINESS OF PARENTING Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last week Sunday I had the opportunity to attend a graduation of the Transformational Living Centre on Parson’s Road. If anyone is familiar with that particular site, they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister of Education, would you like your 20 minutes? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —EDUCATION REFORM Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, all of us feel the pain and sorrow caused by these recent senseless acts of violence against our people. My thoughts and prayers will always be with those persons. Mr. Speaker, just listening to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member . . . MP Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —PROTECTING ECOMMERCE INDUSTRIES FOR YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson And I too rise with a very, very heavy heart. But I wanted to follow on from the Minister of Education to the next level. And that is seeing our young people enter into the working world and entrepreneurship. And as the Shadow [Minister] of Transport, I have learned and …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson But certainly, we need to take a look at it. And Mr. Speaker, it is not just transport. I am looking at it from a transport perspective and the fact that the news item was certainly Island: GO!, which is a foreign . . . it seems to be a …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson —or mental health.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, I think the Honourable Member is misleading the House. The point of which she is trying to make or is insinuating is that the money that is collected from this app is going out of …
The Speaker The Speaker All right. I think . . . I think. Let me be nice. You made your point. You made your point. You made your point. I was going to say something else, but I will s tay out of it. Because we started this morning where a question was put …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay? All right. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. So she is just taking another attack at the . . . or another attempt because— [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker —another attempt because she thought she was being misled the first time. Member, go ahead.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Thank you. And I did not realise that I was hitting a soft spot there. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I thought that we were speaking about people — [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson —and ecommerce that we do not know anything about. And, Mr. Speaker, I do not know much, although I am shadowing Health, but it could be the same with Health, where we may have professionals who are delivering mental health services and support, which is something that is very important …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Minister Campbell, you have your 20 minutes. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —CALLING FOR 100 GOOD MEN TO BE POSITIVE ROLE MODELS Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I grew up loving sports. I even participated in a few when I was younger. This …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Minister. Opposition Deputy Leader, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Speaker. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED BY MINISTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Speaker, like everyone in this Chamber, this week has brought a lot of emotions think-ing about our community. Mr. Speaker, I remember as a freshman at Springfield College in Massachusetts the very first assignment that I had for English I wrote an essay that was called “Gunshots in the …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Not so! It’s not so.
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Speaker, as I will continue.
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Ben Smith Please do not —
The Speaker The Speaker Continue. Speak to the Chair.
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Speaker, the issue is we have just had a report from a PhD saying that our youth are filled with anxiety, filled with depression. And one of the major factors was that there is a stigma for getting help. That’s why they are not getting the help that t …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Honourable Member. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Point of order. I will tell you are wrong. Point of order. Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. You are talking about the gun vio-lence in this country, and he referred to the services that …
The Speaker The Speaker He didn’t . . . he didn’t . . . he didn’t go on an attack. He stated a fact. It is a fact that if you talk to people in the counselling services, one of the biggest challenges they have is people coming to receive ser-vices. Hon. Zane J. …
The Speaker The Speaker He is stating a fact. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I got that.
The Speaker The Speaker He is stating a fact. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But one would think, Mr. Speaker . . . respectfully, one would think that the Honourable Member was referring to the services that the Premier . . . because you were talking about gun violence in the country in …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, Members. Let me rise to my feet. 1518 12 July 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly This week this country is in pain over what they saw. The last thing I want this House to do is set the example of what we do not want to …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Yes. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker So whatever opinion is expressed in this House today needs to be expressed with an open mind-set of not attacking each other. The Member simply said statistics prove that people are reluctant to take advantage of the services. That is a given fact. I have counsellors in my family who …
The Speaker The Speaker I am not throwing stones. I . . . Member, I am telling you what I have experienced when I have tried to work with people in my own constituency. Okay? That is the reality. And it bothered me, it bothered me because in a couple of those cases people …
The Speaker The Speaker In trying to help them. I am speaking from personal experience. [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker I am speaking from personal experience. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. No. Member. Member, I am saying to you, let’s not take this where it goes in a battle back and forth. That is not the message we want out here. The message we want is that of unity. It is going to get us down the road. And …
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Ben Smith Finishing the thought that I was trying to move to is this: We have to start to allow people to know that it is okay to have the emotions that we have. It is okay to express those emotions. The country is feeling this anxiety. And as I was trying …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm.
Mr. Ben Smith If you are feeling a certain way and you need to cry, it is okay to do so. It does not make you a weak person. That is the message I want for our population. It is okay that we as a country are grieving because our Bermudians are dying! …
Mr. Ben Smith And that is exactly what I have been doing. If we can’t behave that way, how are we expect-ing anybody else to look at us in a different way? Because Mr. Speaker, we are asking for our community to act differently. That is the message that we have heard today. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, yes.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Is there any other Member? MP Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Members. Members. Let Mr. Caines have his time on the floor, please. Mr. Caines, one second. Let me restart your clock. Your 20 minutes starts now. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —WE ARE OUR BROTHER’S KEEPER
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, Cain was asked by God, Where is your brother Abel?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm.
Mr. Wayne Caines And Cain, walking in the Garden of Eden, in the absence of his brother that he had mur-dered responded, Am I my brother’s keeper? Today, Mr. Speaker, I pose that very question in this room. Are we our brother’s keeper? In recent days Bermuda has seen in the last week …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s right. Mr. Wayne Caines: MP Famous started something called “Parish Pride.” This is where we went into our constituency and we cut the trees, raked them up. Sunday mornings whilst the average Bermudian slept in their bed, MP Famous was waking us all up. Guess what, Mr. Speaker? On …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Wayne Caines We need an opportunity for this community to rise from the ashes and show that we get it. That we care. The sense of fraternity and brotherhood that we see during Cup Match, we need to see it now at Christmastime when our country is in crisis. Will we lay …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Wayne Caines Jew or Gentile. Greek or African. We must work together as a community to bring ourselves up. I believe that the call by MP Campbell for 100 men to come forward is important. We understand that we can no longer sit in chat groups and have people sending us voice …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Caines. Does any other Member . . . MP Lister. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —SOLUTION REQUIRES COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, GRASSROOT INVOLVEMENT
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon to the listening audience and to my fellow colleagues. Mr. Speaker, the last session of this House two weeks ago I stood and made an appeal for road safety. Well, Mr. Speaker, I am going to reiterate that call today but in regard to …
Mr. Dennis Lister III —and I got home one day, and my Nana she said, You know, I heard from your friend’s mama that you were here there. They looked out for you back then. Whether you were doing something Bermuda House of Assembly innocent or not, they were the eyes and ears of …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Mr. Speaker, long gone are those days . And we need to get back to those days. It starts with knowing who your neighbours are. Yes, the days are gone , long gone [when] everyone was [in] tight knit community. M ostly family lived in the neighbourhood. Now that dynamic …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. MP De Silva, you have your 20 minutes. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —DISRUPT THE LIVES OF GANGSTERS Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, before I start, I would like to thank all Members in this House, all Members who have …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: We have seen some innocent people taken away in handcuffs, locked up for the day for a lot more than this. So, my thing is, we know who they are. Bermuda House of Assembly Who in this country is going to say we …
The Speaker The Speaker [Does] any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other? MP Famous, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker .
Mr. Christopher Famous Happy Sabbath when it comes.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. TRAGIC EVENTS IN RECENT DAYS —A NEED TO MENTOR AND GUIDE THE NEXT GENERATION
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, there is a children’s show they called Mister Roger’s Neighborhood . I cannot remember the theme song, but it had a little montage of this house, and that house, and whatever. Right? Mr. Speaker, in my life I have had the privilege of living in two neighbourhoods. I …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Christopher Famous [They are:] • Vincent Tuz o, the kite king; • Stanley Morton, late parliamentarian; • Ottiwell Simmons , late parliamentarian; • Artie Black ; • “Sundown” Daniels ; • Chiparoo Augustus; • Haley Douglas; • “Baby Doe” Douglas; • “Boo” Brown ; • Mr. Rock Stevens ; • Mr. Van …
Mr. Christopher Famous But the point is, Mr. Speaker, it is incumbent on our generation to take up the mantle. It should never take what has happened this week for us to say, We need 101 men. We should be there already. But be that as it may, Mr. Speaker, the two neighbourhoods …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to speak? No other Member is rising, so I will rise. Members, I thank you for your participation today. I thank you for the business that was done. I thank you for addressing the issue that our country is feeling right now. …
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