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House of Assembly Session 2023/2024 382 speeches

June 28, 2024

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Session Summary

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This was primarily a day for government ministers to update Parliament on various initiatives and programs. The Premier announced new online services to make it easier for residents to pay parking tickets and look up Social Insurance Numbers. The Works Minister provided extensive updates on road repairs and confirmed the purchase of new asphalt equipment to improve road paving. The Education Minister announced that two schools will close next year as part of the ongoing education reform, with detailed support plans for affected students and families.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Jun 28, 2024
Session 2023/2024
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Speakers 24
Speeches 382

Key Topics

Introduction of new Public Service Career Guide to attract young Bermudians to government jobsLaunch of online payment system for parking tickets and Social Insurance Number lookupMajor road paving updates and purchase of new $6.2 million asphalt equipmentSchool closures announced - Gilbert Institute and Prospect Primary will close in June 2025Merger of two government bodies (WEDCO and BLDC) into single Bermuda Land Management Corporation

Bills & Motions

Bermuda Health Council Amendment Act 2024 - Senate amendment approved by committee and returned to Senate
West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 - announced for tabling later in session to formalize the WEDCO/BLDC merger

Notable Moments

Premier emphasized need to fill 150+ hard-to-fill government positions like pilots, maritime controllers, and engineers
Works Minister confirmed no job losses will result from the merger of WEDCO and BLDC after 6 years of planning
Education Minister addressed public concerns about school closures, clarifying the schools close in June 2025, not 2024

Debate Transcript

382 speeches from 24 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. The Clerk will lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [ Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner , Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Good morning, Members. [ Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker The House is now in session. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 14 June 2024]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes for the 14th of June have been circulated. Are there any amendments required? No amendments. The Minutes will be confirmed as printed. [ Minutes of 14 June 2024 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGY
The Speaker The Speaker The first announcement this morning is that the Honourable Attorney General has informed us that she will be absent today. BERMUDA OMBUDSMAN OWN MOTION REPORT INVESTIGATION INTO DISCLOSURE OF SPENT CONVICTIONS IN US VISA APPLICATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker The second announcement this morning is that I have received the special report of the Bermuda Ombudsman’s own motion for systematic investigation entitled, for the record, An Investigation into the Disclosure of Spent Convictions in the US Visa Applications. The report has been submitted in accordance with section of 24(2)(a) …
The Speaker The Speaker The next announcement: I have received the Annual Report of the Ombudsman for Ber-muda which covers the period 1 January to 31 December 2023. This report is submitted in accordance of sec-tion 24(1) and 24(3) of the Ombudsman Act 2004. Those are the announcements by the Speaker. MESSAGES FROM THE …
The Speaker The Speaker We have a message from the Senate. It is the returning of the public Bill entitled Bermuda Health Council Amendment Act 2024 requesting the concurrence of the House in an amendment to the Bill proposed to be made by the Senate. Minister. Hon. Kim N . Wilson: Good mor ning, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou. MP Foggo, woul d you take t he Chair i n Committee? Thank y ou. [Pause] House i n Committee a t 10:07 am [Ms. Lov itta F. F oggo, C hairman] COMMITTEE O N BILL BERMUDA HEALTH COUNCIL AMENDMENT ACT 2024 SENATE AMENDMENT T O CL …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to this clause? I recognise the Member Jackson from constituency 20. Thank you.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Madam Chairman. My only question would be to ask the Minister why she had chosen to make this amendment?
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to the amendment? There being none, Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Madam Chairman, just in answer to the Honourable Member’s question, we felt that with respect to this, notwithstanding the importance of the data collection for Bermuda as it …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to the amendment?
The Chairman Chairman I recognise the Member from constituency 12.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Considering the reply, would this suggest that not enough consultation had taken place?
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members who wish to speak on the amendment? Yes. Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: With respect to this amendment, Madam Chairman, as I have indicated previously, the rationale behind it and the said amendment were of-fered in the Senate. It was approved, and I am asking …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to the amendment? There being none, Minister. Minister, just move that this amendment be approved. That is all. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: I move that said amendment be approved and that the Bill be returned to the Senate …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any objections? There being none, so approved. [Motion carried: The Senate amendment to clause 2 of the Bermuda Health Council Amendment Act 2024 was passed by a Committee of the whole House.] [Pause]
The Chairman Chairman I call on the Speaker to resume his seat. House resumed at 10:10 am [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE BERMUDA HEALTH COUNCIL AMENDMENT ACT 2024 SENATE AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 2
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the amendment to the Bermuda Health Council Amendment Act 2024 being reported back to the House? There are none. The matter has been reported. We now move on. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker There are four such papers, all in the name of the Minister of Finance. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning to you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Bermuda House of Assembly BERMUDA CASINO GAMING COMMISSION AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FISCAL YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2020 BERMUDA CASINO GAMING COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 1 APRIL 2020– 31 MARCH 2021 BERMUDA CASINO GAMING COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 1 APRIL 2021– 31 MARCH 2022 BERMUDA CASINO GAMING COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT 1 …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker Members, we have 10 such Statements this morning. The first is in the name of Mr. Premier. Premier. INTRODUCTION OF PUBLIC SERVICE CAREER GUIDE Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to introduce a new initiative to inspire young people to pursue careers …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Members, the second Statement this morning is also in the name of Mr. Premier. Would you like to continue with that one? Hon. E. David Burt: Absolutely, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. MINISTRY OF FINANCE NEW ONLINE SERVICES Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I rise today in this Honourable House to announce further progress in our journey toward enhancing the efficiency and conven-ience of government services. Before I share the de-tails, Mr. Speaker , I want to make …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch G ood morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. ROAD WORKS UPDATE AND PURCHASING OF NEW ASPHALTING EQUIPMENT
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, in keeping with prior commitments made by myself to keep the public informed, I rise in this Honourable House for the seventh time since February 2020 to not only address the state of our national highways and plans to address their condition, but also to provide details of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement is also in the name of the Minister of Works. Minister, would you like to continue?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. WEST END DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AMENDMENT ACT 2024, TABLING OF
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I rise to advise of the final chapter of the amalgamation of two government quangos —the West End Development Corporation and the Bermuda Land Development Company. Mr. Speaker , later this session I will table the West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024 i n this Honourable House. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister. EDUCATION REFORM —3-TIER TO 2 -TIER TRANSITION PLAN UPDATE Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, today I rise to update this House and the listening public on decisions that have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Youth, Social Development and Seniors. Minister, would you like to present your Statement now? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Bermuda House of Assembly DEMENTIA CARE SERVICES PILOT PROGRAMME UPDATE Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker, this morning I rise to provide my h onourable colleagues and the people of Bermuda with an update on the six -month Dementia Care Services pilot programme l aunched by the Ministry of …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue on now, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Speaker , due to the lack of dementia navigation and support services and charita-ble services that financially assist, family carers tend to experience a strain in maintaining persons in their homes. Also, poor support of family carers can result in hospitali sations, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. PESTICIDES REGULATIONS PUBLIC CONSULTATION Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members, I stand before this Honourable House to announce the launch of a public consultation …
The Speaker The Speaker [No Microphone] SUMMER SAFETY Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, today I wish to encourage this Honourable House and the members of the public to join forces with the Ministry of National Security and the Government as we aim to have a happy and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister. ABANDONED VEHICLES, TACKLING OF UPDATE Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to residents and citizens of this beautiful country. Mr. Speaker, I stood in this very …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement, which is the final Statement this morning, is in the name of the Min-ister of Cabinet. Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Good morning, and thank you,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Good morning. LEVERAGING SUSTAINABLE PUBLIC PROCUREMENT 2024 –2027 Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to advise Honourable Members of this House on current Government activities that are geared to ensure that we conduct public procurement at a global standard. The theme, Mr. Speaker, of this year ’s Throne …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Members and Ministers, for your Statements this morning. Members, that brings us to a close of the Statements for today. We will now move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker This morning we have written questions as well as questions on the Statements that were read this morning by Ministers. We will start with the written questions. The first question this morning is from the Opposition Leader to the Minister of Economy and Labour. Opposition Leader, would you like to …
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: IMMIGRATION REFORM AND PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS UPDATE Hon. Jarion Richardson: And good morning to the honourable colleagues and to the listening public. The Minister responsible for Immigration indicated in a December 2021 Ministerial Statement that an Immigration Digitisation (or automation) project was underway. On 11 March 2024, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I want to reiterate that the digitisation project remains a priority for this Government. The Department of Immigration has now strategically used RFI [request for information] which was put out by the Information and Digital Technologies Department to identify smart government partners to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jarion Richardson: Would the Honourable Minister be able to give us prospective timelines relating to the current workstream of the RFP, please?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: The matter to be discussed is whether or not the RFP is the appropriate process, since the RFI has only gone out, and whether or not there can be a selection of vendors from the pool of individuals who responded to the RFI. Bermuda House of …
The Speaker The Speaker Further supplementary or your second question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Further supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jarion Richardson: I thank the Honourable Minister for the clarity. Would he be able to speak to, or is he in a position to speak to the Digitisation Team’s work and their timeline to make sure that we keep up with this project?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: As we have received capital funding for this fiscal period, it is my expectation and the Ministry’s expectation that the project be initiated and the substantial portion of the project be completed in this fiscal period so that the funds allocated can be utilised and placed …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second question? QUESTION 2: IMMIGRATION REFORM AND PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS, FUNDS SPENT ON Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please, Mr. Speaker. The second question: As of June 2023, the Government had spent $356,880 on the Digitisation Project. The 2024/25 capital acquisitions estimate for the Ministry of Economy and Labour show …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: There have been no funds used from the 2024/25 funding allocation.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: No supplementary. Third question, please. The Speaker: Third question. Yes. QUESTION 3: IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENT, STATUS OF COMPLAINT TRACKING AND RESOLUTION PROCESS Hon. Jarion Richardson: On 6 March 2023, the Honourable Minister said that he would enquire with the Chief Immigration Officer to determine how she moni-tors …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Based off of the wording of the question, I would believe that the question is isolated to the tracking of work permits and passport complaints rather than other compliance complaints which have to deal with policy and legislation. So, I will attempt to speak to that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please, Mr. Speaker. Would the Honourable Minister be able to speak to any improvement to the processes and proce-dures within the department based on complaints re-ceived from the public?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Most definitely. Mr. Speaker, I meet with the senior management of the Department of Immigration on a weekly basis. And that is the basis of the conversation that we do have. One of the areas is in terms of how we can improve our customer service, …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: That is the end. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Oh. Thank you. Members, that brings us to the close of the [written questions] for this morning. We now move on to the questions that arose from the Statements. And the first Statement that has a question this morning, Premier, is your second Statement. And it is from the Opposition …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you. The Honourable Premier spoke to some of the hurdles facing the problems of putting the moving violation tickets into the system. He had mentioned that the matter has to go before judges before the amount can be set. Can the Honourable …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: At this point in time there is no workstream in regard to moving violations. But the team has the vision overall. The team has been working with members of the judiciary and others on these particular matters. And there will be further announce-ments in due …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplemental or a new question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: A new question, please.
The Speaker The Speaker New question. QUESTION 2: MINISTRY OF FINANCE NEW ONLINE SERVICES Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Honourable Minister be able to speak to some of the other services that are going to be rolled out onto the payment portal this year?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, we will be working with a number of government departments. We know that there are a number that are slated to be added. And when those things are added and confirmed, the Honourable House will continue to be informed. The vi-sion is for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: No, Mr. Speaker. Third question.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question. Go ahead. QUESTION 3: MINISTRY OF FINANCE NEW ONLINE SERVICES Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. The Honourable Premier had spoken to the cybersecurity guidance and protecting privacy principles for not retaining credit card information. Would the Honourable Premier be able to speak to what the cyberse-curity guidance that …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: The Forms Team made sure they worked on anything that is launched. I think it is im-portant to know that I think we have launched about 40 or 50 online services since the pandemic and the Forms Team was put together. That team has now …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES Hon. Jarion Richardson: Does the guidance that the Honourable Premier is referring to stem from, or follow, or take any lessons, such as improvements or recommendations outlined in the report on the cyber -hack given to government?
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: I do not think that is the case. I think he is trying to conflate two particular issues. These are things that the team continues to work on, Mr. Speaker. And as they roll out new services, they are going to continue to make sure …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplemental? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Does this guidance mean that the Government will purge or delete the existing payment and credit card details it currently holds? Hon. E. David Burt: I am not entirely certain what payment or credit card details we currently hold. But if the Honourable Member has …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Premier, on the same Statement you have questions that MP Pearman would like to put to you. MP Pearman. QUESTION 1: MINISTRY OF FINANCE NEW ONLINE SERVICES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, and good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to the Honourable Premier. Given the welcome news that Bermudians should finally be able to pay parking tickets online, can the Honourable Premier and Finance Minister share with the public and this Honourable House roughly how much money is due in …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. That is not contained in the Statement either. Yes. Try to keep it pertaining to what was in the Statement. He did not have figures in the Statement. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, yes. That is why I was asking the question because there were no figures given in the Statement. Supplementary. Presumably, the Honourable Premier does have a rough idea about how much is due, $1 million, $2 million, et cetera? 1420 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of …
Mr. Scott Pearman With respect, Mr. Speaker, the Statement was about a portal that would allow payments of parking tickets. And I am trying to establish how much—
The Speaker The Speaker It was not speaking to the extent of what the cost is, the amount that is outstanding. It is speaking to a programme that is going to allow persons to go in and pay online. There could have been a Statement that spoke to . . . the reason for …
Mr. Scott Pearman I will move on.
The Speaker The Speaker So I would not expect that information to be contained in the response of the Premier to the question, because it was not based in the formation of the Statement. QUESTION 2: MINISTRY OF FINANCE NEW ONLINE SERVICES
Mr. Scott Pearman Okay. I will move on. My second question, Mr. Speaker, is, Does the Honourable Premier envisage any period of amnesty for the people who are going to pay on this new portal to pay their tickets? And if so, will they be able to pay during an amnesty period at …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I do not believe there is any particular change in regard to the regulations that exist right now. The fee is at $75, and persons can go online and pay those fees.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? MP Jackson. QUESTION 1: MINISTRY OF FINANCE NEW ONLINE SERVICES
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, I have a question. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson When a person makes that payment for a particular parking ticket, will there be any notification of additional outstanding parking tickets that a person may have? I know that there are a lot of people out there who may have 10, 15, 60 outstanding parking tickets. Will this system pick …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: The answer to the question, Mr. Speaker, is no. As explained, the system is a payment portal that allows. It is not doing logging- in. It is not going to have information. It is not tying . . . all the …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So if a person does not pay their parking ticket, is that a manual enforcement to chase after the unpaid parking ticket? Or is there any . . .you know, what happens if you just do not pay your ticket anyway?
The Speaker The Speaker It would be like it is today. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, let me try to help Honourable Members opposite. As explained in my Statement, if you are issued a parking ticket, currently you go to the building across the street, go through security, go up the stairs, …
The Speaker The Speaker You sound pretty familiar with that, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry?
The Speaker The Speaker You sound pretty familiar. I did not even know that. [Laughter] Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: You must have done this a few times. Hon. E. David Burt: I can assure you, Mr. Speaker, I have never had a parking ticket. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: In that case …
The Speaker The Speaker Any further supplementary? MP De Silva, supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes. Supplementary, yes. Premier, can you confirm if there are any boat parking tickets outstanding?
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I do not have any knowledge on that.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary . . . You had your two. You had your two supplementaries. MP Pearman, did you have a further supplementary or question? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker None. Okay. No further supplementaries or questions on that. Premier, that brings a close to questions on your Statement. We will now move on. The next Statement this morning that Members would like to ask question on is that of the Minister of Education. Minister of Education, the Deputy Opposition …
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, and good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: EDUCATION REFORM —3-TIER TO 2-TIER TRANSITION PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Speaker, would the Honourable Minister be able to let us know whether he anticipates any changes to staffing employment due to the scheduled closure for next June for both of the schools that will be closing?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, as all staff that are substantive government employees or public serv-ants, they will be retained and transferred to other schools or within the public service. At this point I can state that every single person at Prospect Primary and Gilbert Institute are …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Ben Smith Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Ben Smith Does the Minister anticipate any transfers happening in this upcoming school year starting in September due to the potential changes that will happen next summer?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, as stated in the Statement, that is the responsibility of the Department of Education, more specifically the Commissioner of Education. And so as the conversations take place, I cannot speculate what could come up as they discuss opportunities with individual employees within …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or second question? QUESTION 2: EDUCATION REFORM —3-TIER TO 2-TIER TRANSITION PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Ben Smith Second question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, considering that the Minister said that they learned several lessons from the closure of the schools last year, would he be able to let us know whether any data were collected on transfers that would have happened once the announcement is made …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. 1422 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, the announcement was made Monday. The meeting with parents was Tuesday. And I am going to assume that if there are any transfers that are a direct result of this, they …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Mr. Ben Smith Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Ben Smith So my original question was, Did the Minister learn that there was an uptick in transfers once the announcement was made the last time, so that it would give him an informed decision of the potential of transfers that would happen from the announcement that has just happened on Monday? …
The Speaker The Speaker So, I am trying to get a specific question that you can put to the Minister out of that one. I know you are referencing what happened before. And is there is something from before that we can use as a scale for now? Is that what you are asking?
The Speaker The Speaker Then you need to put it into question form then.
Mr. Ben Smith So, the data that would have been collected from the first set of closures last year, what has that data taught them about what we should anticipate for transfers from the schools that will close next year? Considering that it is a year from now, they wou ld have learned …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am still a bit hazy, but I am going to try and go through what I think the Honourable Member is asking. From my understanding, the closures we did last year for Heron Bay and Clearwater resulted in all …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Ben Smith Supplementary, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker This is the second supplementary on that topic. Go ahead.
Mr. Ben Smith When the announcement was made for last year, parents would have made a decision in advance whether they should enrol students into the school that was going to close or whether they would transfer their students in anticipation of the closure. Was that t he information that was learned through …
The Speaker The Speaker It may be speculation at this point. And a question should not be of a speculative nature. Okay? I was trying to get you to fine- tune it a bit more, but it cannot be of a speculative nature. Okay? Any further questions? No further questions. Thank you, Members. Members, …
Mr. Scott Pearman Good morning again.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. QUESTION 1: ABANDONED VEHICLES —TACKLING OF UPDATE
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. Honourable Minister, you have updated the House today in your Statement about the derelict bikes and cars, and you have referred back to your prior Statement from the 8 th of March. And in your Statement you described that you are taking action to get this done. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, we had to hire trucks to actually put the vehicles on. And that is what I am talking about when I say “private individuals.” So we have hired individuals who actually picked up the trucks or bikes. The traffic officer …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary. That removal of vehicles previously used to be carried out by TCD using the TCD vehicle, correct? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: We have always rented, used another truck, a person’s truck.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary. So the removal has always been through private rental vehicles? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I cannot say that it has always been. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes, you are right. I have not always been the Minister. So I am not sure how you guys handled it. …
The Speaker The Speaker New question?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Second question. QUESTION 2: ABANDONED VEHICLES —TACKLING OF UPDATE
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, second question. Just in terms of the process, when the bike or car is collected, before it goes to the dump it has to have oil and petrol, if still left in the vehicle, removed. How does that process work? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, we rely on …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Supplementary? None. Members, that brings to us to a close of the Question Period for today. Thank you. We will now move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to make a contribution? Mr. Premier, you have your three minutes. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am going to probably pre- empt the Minister of Education. I am sure he will be giving extensive congratulations, Mr. Speaker. But …
The Speaker The Speaker I just thought it was red and blue. Hon. E. David Burt: Well, that is fine. You can assume such because that is all I shall wear until we retain the Cup. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: But nonetheless, Mr. Speaker, it was great to stop by to see the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Member? Ladies. We will go with MP Ming. [Laughter]
Mrs. Renee Ming Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, listening audience. I would like to first of all be associated with the comments for Patti. Kijana was in my year in Berkeley. And that is a house that I used to frequent in my younger days. On a happier note, I would …
Mrs. Renee Ming Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Ming. Members, I am going to call on the Minister of Education at this time because I think what he is about to do now is a recognition that we would all like to concur with. [Inaudible interjections] ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER HOUSE VISITOR
The Speaker The Speaker I am going to do a special invitation to the person whom he is going to acknowledge. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker As the Minister, we offer his congratulations. I am going to ask the Sergeant -at-Arms if the visitor would like [for him] to escort her into our Chamber this morning if she wishes to join us inside this area. [Pause] Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Minister, as she is …
The Speaker The Speaker Sergeant -at-Arms, you can bring her up. Bring her up the middle, Sergeant -at-Arms. Bring her up the middle, Sergeant -at-Arms. Bring her up the middle, Sergeant -at-Arms. [Inaudible interjections and laughter] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Colleagues, Ms. Barney was born in Bermuda 100 years ago and wanted to …
The Speaker The Speaker We wish for you to note that all Members have stood this morning to give recognition to you. And we welcome you to our Chambers. We understand the history of why you left Bermuda. And we trust that when you are back in Bermuda now you can see progress that …
The Speaker The Speaker But we welcome you into our Chambers this morning. And feel free to sit and enjoy a session as long as you wish. When you are ready to leave, we will make sure you are escorted out accordingly. Okay? Members, Thank you. [Congratulatory and/or Obituary Speeches, continuing] Hon. Diallo V. …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes, go ahead. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I do want to join the Premier and other Members in sending congratulations. And I did last night send out blanket congratulations to all schools. But specifically, in all of our schools it is called a leaving ceremony. Our high …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Ooh! Ah! [Desk thumping] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I have had the pleasure of having her as my Permanent Secretary for the last two and a half years. She is a wealth of knowledge. She knows just about everything that has to do with government and how …
The Speaker The Speaker I am sure the whole House would support you on that one. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1426 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Thank you. Would any other Member like to . . . MP Lister, you have your …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to the listening audience. I would like to on a sad note start by sending condolences to the family of Mr. Gary Smith of 25 Burnt House Hill in Warwick, Mr. Speaker. And also to the family of Ms. Joan Gilbert, husband [sic] of …
The Speaker The Speaker Wife. Wife.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Wife of Mr. Colin Gilbert, who is a member of the PLP party. [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Dennis Lister III I associate the PLP side of the House, Mr. Speaker .
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The whole House.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Well, the whole House, Mr. Speaker. While I did not know his wife specifically, I know Mr. Gilbert from being around and speaking with him. And you know it is always hard losing someone. So, I would like to send condolences to him and the rest of the Gilbert family. …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes, you better not. [Laughter]
Mr. Dennis Lister III —but again I would like to send congratulations and happy birthday to two Members of this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister Weeks, you are quick on your feet. I will have your three minutes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to send congratulations again to the Harrington Sound Primary School’s administration, teachers, staff and of course their students. [Inaudible interjections …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to speak? MP Foggo.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to be associated with the congratulatory remarks for the two public senior schools, Berkeley and CedarBridge Academy, the Eastern area primary schools, preschools and the con-gratulatory remark for the Dame Jennifer Smith Fut ure Leader Awards. Those young people in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Thank you, Member. Does any other Member — Government Whip, Mr. Tyrrell.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I rise sadly to ask that condolences be sent to the family and friends of Mr. George Richardson. He might not be well known amongst a lot of people, but Mr. Richardson was a constituent of mine in Jones Village …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Back o’ Town?
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Yes, Back o’ Town, where he gained his popularity forming the Richardson Gombeys. He was known as a suite drummer, for those of us who understand drumming. He was a very popular Gombey warrior, who also made Gombey suits as well. So he was very popular in that area. Mr. …
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell No, he would not know that. In Gombey language, George knew how to rush ’em back. So again, I’m talking in Gombey lan-guage here. So I do hope my good friend, George, rests in peace. Mr. Speaker, if I could just switch gears on a more joyful note.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Let me give birthday congratulations to my Branch Chairman, Tarik Bean- Darrell. He hit the ripe age of 40 this week. And I could certainly say without his help I might not even be standing here today. So I certainly want to wish him well. And I also, Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you. 1428 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Speaker, I would like for the House to offer condolences to the family of Carla Althea Patricia Talford [nee Darrell], also known as “Peachie.” She was the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member —
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Swan.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes. I certainly appreciate the Honourable Member De Silva’s associating me with the condolences to the Todd/Darrell family, whom I am very close to through the great game of golf. And I actually knew Peachie as well, growing up. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the congratulations …
Mr. Robert King Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members. First on a sad note, I wish to express condolences to the family of Dr. Jemma Harris, who was a forensic and clinical psychologist who worked in this Island since 2012, formerly at the Department of Court Services and Solstice. She died …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Famous.
Mr. Christopher Famous Good morning, Mr. Speaker, colleagues and listening audience.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, I would like to give congratulations to the Elliott School, my alma mater and my constituency. I want to give a special shout - out to one particular young lady, Christina Pimentel. She is named Pimentel because that is her father. But she is of the Ball clan …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make— MP Jackson, you have your three minutes.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to send condolences to the family of Frances Kast. She lived 102 years in Ber-muda. She was not in my constituency. She was in Southampton. But her son, Harry Kast, is a member of my constituency. And I send condolences to him …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Any other Member? There is no other Member at this time. That will bring us to a close of the condolences and congratula-tions for this morning. We will now move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS GOVERNMENT BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There is one Bill to be introduced this morning by the Minister of Works. Minister, would you like to introduce your Bill at this time? BILL FIRST READING WEST END DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AMENDMENT ACT 2024
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for the next day of meeting: the West End Development Corporation Amendment Act 2024.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. OPPOSITION BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There no Opposition Bills. PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker No Private Members’ Bills. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker We have two items to be dealt with today under the Orders of the Day. I am looking at the clock. We have got about four minutes or so before we would normally break for the lunch period. I am assuming it is going to take more than four minutes …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Members, the House now stands adjourned until 2:00 pm. Before I hit the gavel, I just want to acknowledge that, being we have a special visitor with us today, we have sought to have the official photogra-pher come and join us during this lunch break so that we …
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. I trust everyone had a nice break. Now we are ready to start the afternoon session. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker The House is back in session. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker At the recess this morning, we were at the verge of starting the Orders of the Day. And the first Order is the second reading of the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Amendment Act 2024, in the name of the Premier and Minister of Finance. Premier. Good timing. …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue, Premier. BILL SECOND READING REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Bill before the House is the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Amendment Act 2024. This …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, Members will recall on the 8 th of March 2024 the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Act 2024 and the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) (No. 2) Act 2024 were passed in this House of Assembly. In order to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. Scott Pearman Given how quickly the Honourable Premier and Finance Minister went through that, perhaps I should have pressed a few floor buttons on the elevator to slow things down. [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman There is not a great deal to be said about this amending Bill. And I have just a few brief points. By way of background, although we did hear about this in the Honourable Finance Minister’s brief, there are two earlier Bills, both of this year. The first is the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Pearman. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1432 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly This is the third time we are debating this particular matter of these minor fees, which have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. House in Committee at 2:15 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL Bermuda House of Assembly REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Amendment Act 2024 . Premier and Finance Minister, David Burt, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, of course we have the overview which was given in the main House. Clause 1 provides a citation of the Bill. Clause 2 repeals and replaces section 4 of the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Act 2024 …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. Any further speakers to the Bill? The Chair recognises the Honourable Member Pearman.
Mr. Pearman. Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question is one singular question. It relates to both clauses 2 and 3 which amend the dates in the two prior primary Acts from the 9 th of February to the 1st of January both in the year 2024. I did ask a question in …
The Chairman Chairman [Honourable Member] Pearman, any further? [No audible response] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 3 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 3 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 3 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried: The Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Amendment Act 2024 was considered …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bill being reported to the House as printed? There are none. Thank you, Members. We will now move on to the next item on the Order Paper, which is [the second reading of] the Motor Car (Electric or Hybrid Private Motor Cars) Amendment …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? None. Continue, Minister. BILL SECOND READING MOTOR CAR (ELECTRIC OR HYBRID PRIVATE MOTOR CARS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, the Bill for consideration before the Honourable House today is the Motor Car (Electric or Hybrid Private Motor Cars) Amendment Act 2024. This Bill proposes …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I just have a few questions that I would like to ask the Minister. Generally, we are cer-tainly all in favour of the electrification of vehicles in Bermuda and agree with the Minister in the reduction of emissions, et cetera. So the idea that we will have more electrification on …
The Speaker The Speaker Not all at once, I hope.
The Speaker The Speaker I hope you are not squeezing them in all at once. [Laughter]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson That certainly is a necessity. And we certainly want to be able to provide our young 1436 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly families the opportunity to invest in electrical vehicles that are going to be comfortable and capable of carrying out their daily needs. Another …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? MP Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Mr. Wayne Caines Let me say from the outset, Mr. Speaker, there is an opportunity, and I think at the ap-propriate time and the appropriate place we can talk about batteries and storage of batteries and things of that nature. But this Bill is basic stuff. The Bill is about the length and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Minister Furbert. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will not speak long on this Bill. I just wanted to rise as a consumer of an electric vehicle. And …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister Furbert. Does any other Member wish to speak? Minister Wilson. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to add my little two cents to this Bill [debate], as the Honourable Member who just took her seat as well as the lead Minister, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am a proponent of anything that would improve life, health and safety in the country. But I think before we do that, we …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Opposition Whip, MP Cannonier.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to add a few words. I always thought that Bermuda was a perfect place for us to have EVs, and I recognise that it is an issue. I remember this issue coming up years ago, and I will be …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier You know, these things look like you are driving around in a bubble, quite frankly.
The Speaker The Speaker Not all of them, not all of them. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Not all of them.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Well, Mr. Speaker, I did see that fancy thing that came in years ago, that rocket. I do not know if we can bring those in. Now that was a beautiful car!
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier You bring that in here, and you might get a few people who would take it up. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier But the Honourable Member when he speaks of the industry in and of itself, and what is going to happen to mechanics and what is going to happen to the gas attendants. You know, I declare my interest as everyone knows. Yes, it is a challenge because a pump attendant …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? None other. Minister Furbert. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I appreciate all of the comments from both sides, all of the questions. And I will try to answer some of them. But let us …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. I know that. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: You know that. Well, the impression that we were given is that 2035 everybody is going to have electric cars. We know that Bermudians keep cars forever. You could buy a combustible ICE car in 2030, 2032, 2033, 2034 and [it will] …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Thursday afternoon. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thursday afternoon. So times have changed. And times will continue to change. I mean, the things that my children and my grandchildren would do is different from what . . . I’m saying, What are you . . . are you crazy? What are …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ever?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Okay! [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I said this Government —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ever? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: This Government . . . I said will not . Do you understand we are talking “will not”? We will not. Now, I do not know what the OBA will do if they ever become Government because, you know . . . but they may. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member How many? Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: —we had 218 cars. And right now we have 600- and-some electric cars. So people are buying them. Things are growing. And of course, one of the reasons why it is slow, Mr. Speaker, is because you go around to the dealers and you …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s you . . . that’s you, though. 1442 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I know. I know.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You can’t fit into it anyway. [Laughter] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I told them at the end of the day, I told them, Mr. Speaker, that car there is not my type of car. [Laughter] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, and so even—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It’s got bucket seats. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: —this blue car . . . I think it is a blue car that Ford sold and I think they bought them for a Minister . They are the most ugly looking thing for Ministers to be driving around in.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I agree. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Right? So how are you going to respect Ministers driving? When you go down the Island, Mr. Speaker, you are well aware, you go down the Island you are greeted nice at the airport, treated well — [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: You …
The Speaker The Speaker Mobylette. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mobylette. So, Minister’s should not have cars; you can ride on a Mobylette. What? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: We’re crazy! [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: We disrespect ourselves so much, Mr. Speaker, when it comes to that. You remember, …
The Speaker The Speaker Committed. Deputy. House in Committee at 3: 09 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] Bermuda House of Assembly COMMITTEE ON BILL MOTOR CAR (ELECTRIC OR HYBRID PRIVATE MOTOR CARS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Motor Car (Electric or Hybrid Private Motor Cars) Amendment Act 2024 . In charge of this Bill is Minister Wayne Furbert from Hamilton Parish. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you. Again, Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: This Bill seeks to amend the Motor Car Act 1951, (”the principal Act”) to provide for the dimensions and licence fee for the increased length and width of electric or hybrid private motor cars. Clause 1 provides the title of the Bill. Clause 2 amends …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Any further speakers to this Bill, the Motor Car (Electric or Hybrid Private Motor Cars) Amendment Act 2024? No speakers. Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I move clause 1 through 4.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 4 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 4 passed.] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. [Motion carried. The Motor Car (Electric or Hybrid Pri-vate Motor Cars) Amendment Act 2024 was considered by …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. House resumed at 3:12 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE MOTOR CAR (ELECTRIC OR HYBRID PRIVATE MOTOR CARS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. Are there any objections to the Bill being reported to the House as printed? There are none. Thank you, Members. That brings us to a close of the order of business for today. Mr. Premier . . . Oh, wait. Wait. Yes, you have the third reading. …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Go ahead, Premier. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] 1444 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly BILL THIRD READING REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister of Transport. SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I move that Standing Order 21 be suspended to enable me to move the Bill entitled the Motor Car (Electric or Hybrid Private Motor Cars) Amendment Act 2024 be now read a third time …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? No. Continue. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING MOTOR CAR (ELECTRIC OR HYBRID PRIVATE MOTOR CARS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: I move the Bill be now read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Motor Car (Electric or Hybrid Private Motor Cars) Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. Thank you for your participation today and all the business that was on the Order Paper.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House now adjourn until Friday, July 12.
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to this? Any Member? Minister Tinee Furbert, you have the floor. 2024 MARY PRINCE WOMEN ENTREPRENEURIAL AND LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to take the opportunity to share that a couple of weeks ago the Ministry …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Opposition Whip, MP Cannonier. ALARM RAISED OVER INSURANCE COMPANY MERGER IN BERMUDA
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And again, good afternoon colleagues. I read with interest in the paper this potential merger between two insurance companies that have been around for quite some time. And on the surface, I can recognise from a business point of view the sense in …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —b ut they abbreviate and it is all over the place and it is the pharmacist who has to pick out exactly what it is saying, because [the doctor] can’t even spell the word. An H on. Mem ber: Chinese, huh ?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So they are saving lives, but guess what? The Bermudian pharmacy, the independent pharmacy owner is being squeezed out because now these conglomerates are saying, Well, if you go over there and get your generic drug, that is 80 per cent. We ain’t covering it all. We are moving from …
Mr. L. C raig C annonier Somebody must see the error in this w ay. An H on. Mem ber: They do n’t care. T hat’s r ight.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier This can’t be! And I understand the justification, the business justification of it. But somebody has got to step in and slow this thing down. On the other side of the coin, I recognise that Government has a challenge as well. If you are paying $400 for a premium package, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s right. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: Just how Government is trying to cover it. And who loses out? The person who needs the prescription and the people who we are trying to empower to own their own businesses in Bermuda, which is what we were built …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s right.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And when we said we would not do that , because if a doctor cannot own a pharmacy in his establishment . . . and people ass ume when they go to the doctor’s office that the pharmacy in there is owned by the doctor, you know. It’s not!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s right. Bowl them, Craig. Bowl them.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier They assume that! And the pharmacist . . . I am going back to the pharmacist. My wife is going to have a fit with me. But I am going back to the pharmacist because, guess what? If I take their salary and compare it to the US salaries, the …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Cannonier, thank you. MP De Silva, you have the floor. ALARM RAISED OVER INSURANCE COMPANY MERGER IN BERMUDA Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, before I start, I would just like to state for the record that sometimes in this House we agree.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hmm. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And everything the Honourable Member who just took his seat said, I can totally, wholeheartedly agree with. Everything he said!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, it’s true. 1448 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And it is just a matter . . . you guys come over here. We got a lot more space for you over here. [Laughter and inaudible interjections ] Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker It is one of those occasions when we need to hold hands together and find the solution. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, we will. We can sing Kumbaya on this one. Especially when insurance rates . . . and I speak from experience, I declare my interest. And …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So where is the outrage of that? We have outrage over one. But we have not had outrage over that. And who makes those appointments? The largest House on Langton Hill. When we have qualified Bermudians! This is unfair and, in my view, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Because we live in a colony. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, I guess when we live in a colony that is what we get. We get appointments made by people who maybe do not live here. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: One of these days …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Why can they not? Why do the banks in this country . . . and there is one particular bank. I am not happy to say that they . . . their emblem is the same colour. They wear the same colour as …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Call them. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Bank of Butterfield. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: They use green a lot. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Oh, I just didn’t call their name, did I? [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo I told you. You are light brown. You are the lightest kind of brown. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, our banks in this country are practicing unfair injustices every week, every month of the year. They are practicing it and we as legislators have to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Tell me about it. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: So was it true, Mr. Speaker? Were these stories just made up by the Progressive Labour Party over the years? Made up by Black people over the years in this country? I say not. I say it is true. Why …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member There he goes! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And it starts with our young Black men, to our older Black men, in this country. And you can put me in that category. Because you know what? That is how far it stretches. It is unfair. What happens to Mrs. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, he is. 1450 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Jache joins the PLP —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh no! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: —the next thing is . . . now, now let me state this. This is a fictional, hypothetical thing. But you take a young man like Jache Adams. He has a passion. He does his homework. He is intelligent. He is smart. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: The Bank of Butterfield, $54 million for the first quarter of this year —$54 million! In one quarter! But this is what you do. Killing our young people.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Stopping them from progress. What happens if you get a young man, comes out of prison, he learns a trade, carpentry . . . we all know, I think we all know, the skill set up at the prison for some of our …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP De Silva. Deputy Speaker. You have your 20 minutes. Go right ahead. CALL FOR COMMISSION OF INQUIRY INTO THE BANKS OF BERMUDA Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think it was probably earlier this year I spoke about the …
Mr. Speaker. An Hon. Member Mr. Speaker. An Hon. Member Mm-hmm. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: And they have not spoken to certain MPs, maybe this present group in the Chambers, but I know the last group, the last . . . just prior to this last election . . . they have spoken to them. In fact, two Members …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Mm-hmm. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: I am asking again, just like my colleague Zane De Silva said, asking for a commission of inquiry. Why are the banks targeting certain people and not doing business with them anymore? Also in the commission of inquiry, why are you not giving former …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, they are. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: And they . . . although we are a colony, they cannot treat us like third- world citizens. So I am asking the Government to take action and let them know we are annoyed at the nonsense that they are doing in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Mr. Famous, would you like your 20 minutes? NEED FOR NATIONAL NARRATIVE TO ENCOURAGE YOUTH TO LEARN TRADES
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. I beg your indulgence as I speak a slightly dif-ferent language today. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous You saw my notes? [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Mr. Christopher Famous Well, they have AI nowadays, so I am sure.
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
Mr. Christopher Famous So Mr. Speaker, let me start off my saying Magandang hápon. And if you do not understand that, let me say Boa tarde. What is that, Mr. Speaker?
The Speaker The Speaker It was not the Latin that you were taught at Berkeley. I know that. 1452 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Christopher Famous: That is good afternoon firstly in Tagalog, which is the language of the Philippines islands. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous No. [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous Google. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous No, no, no, no, no, no, no. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Famous, just speak to me. You will be all right. Don’t worry about them. Just speak to me.
Mr. Christopher Famous I got a lot of interlopers in here today, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Speak this way.
Mr. Christopher Famous Boa tarde is good afternoon in the Azorean language. Why am I saying that, Mr. Speaker? Because this is the language of the tradespeople of Bermuda now.
Mr. Christopher Famous Sometimes you have to say things that may be deemed unpopular amongst your own people in order to drive home a message.
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Christopher Famous So you see, Mr. Speaker, if you go on any construction site now, if you go to any restaurant, if you go to so many different places these are the languages that are being spoken. And, no, I am not saying it in any xenophobic point of view. These persons …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Right. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Christopher Famous: When we look at a cumulative total, next year more persons are going to be coming and speaking these same languages and doing those jobs which we refuse to do. Now, there are [some] who are going to say, Well, you know, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Does any other . . . MP Simmons -Wade, you have your 20 minutes. AGEING WELL
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade Yes, good afternoon,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade And the listening audience. First of all, I would like to say it was amazing to me the number of emails and calls that I received from seniors, actually, after my motion to adjourn speech last year. It was also surprising to me the number of seniors who actually listen …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Simmons -Wade. MP Caines . . . Minister Hayward. Would you like your 20 minutes, sir? PROMOTING TRADE AND REGIONAL INTEGRATION Hon. Jason Hayward: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the fellow MP for allowing me the opportunity to speak.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, I just like seeing the eagerness of Members wanting to speak. That is a good thing. Hon. Jason Hayward: Most definitely. And I have two very important points that I want to speak on today, points that we do not often speak about. But the dialogue that we have …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Banks. Hon. Jason Hayward: —what is happening with the banks. When we meet with our constituents they talk about the cost of living.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes, they do. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: We hear the cry of What’s happening with the cost of goods and services in Bermuda? And it is all predicated on an old historic system that has never worked for our people.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Crooks! Crooks! Hon. Jason Hayward: It was always designed to create inequalities. The system was always designed for the rich to get richer while the poor remains poor. And I know this all so well because I studied this. In my time at the trade union I often trumpeted about …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm. Hon. Jason Hayward: We were not flanked by a whole lot of people but we made our voices heard. That was myself, Chris Furbert and Reverend Tweed. We talked about the challenges that we were having with our banking system. We talked about the challenges that we were having …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Mm-hmm. Hon. Jason Hayward: They are calling for the Government, the State, to intervene—
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member In their behalf. Hon. Jason Hayward: —in the free market.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm. Hon. Jason Hayward: But that has been a concept that persons warned us against for some time. But now they are feeling the effects of inaction. And so, yes, it is the appropriate time for appropriate market interventions to ensure we protect the people who we serve. We must …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: We cannot continue down this track where Bermuda remains unaffordable for Bermudians. Bermuda is now . . . it has been for some time. But the situation that we are now having with housing, exacerbates the challenges that we have had with just having general cost …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member . . . MP Caines, you have your 20 minutes.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. THE CONCEPT OF LEADERSHIP
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, on this Tuesday of this week, I went canvassing in constituency 14. Mr. Speaker, my constituency spans different elements of our great country. You have those who are in the mid-dle, you have those at the beginning and those at the end— of life scale, of the economic …
Mr. Wayne Caines So when I look and I listen and I go to a constituent’s house, it is not lost on me that I am a part of the opportunity to fix it. And the questions that we must now ask and answer, whether it is hypothetical, whether it is existential, whether …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Caines. Does any other Member wish to . . . MP Swan. PROGRESSIVE LABOUR PARTY A PARTY FOR ALL
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I stand today because this may be my last speech before summer. I am scheduled to have some surgery in July prior to the next meeting. So I offer my apologies today and depending on how I progress, I will then advance …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Probably a lot more.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Probably a lot more. But when he made a decision to become PLP he made it a choice, and over time, you know, his family . . . your family goes with you. They get treated as if they were PLP. But you ask yourself when you talk about, you …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan She is welcome. Tina Nash, PLP member. Dr. Barbara Ball, the late. Courageous folk. My good cousin, Graham Hall , with a lot of St. George’s relatives. My cousin Colin Gilbert, whose wife just passed away, whose family is well into, you know, supporters of the UBP from way back …
The Speaker The Speaker When you know what is coming, you stay away so you can get your licks, I gather. Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: Yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Well, go ahead.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And just finally, Mr. Speaker, I just want to close by saying that the recession wasn’t caused by the PLP of 2007 and 2008, but the narrative was that people were leaving Bermuda because of the PLP. Between 2003 and 2007, the country had the greatest economic growth ever. I …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Swan. [Timer chimes ]
The Speaker The Speaker MP King, would you like your 20 minutes? NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS
Mr. Robert King Yes sir, Honourable Speaker, and Members of the House. The Honourable Member made many comments, talked . . .well, made many comments, some of which I can agree with and others not. In terms of suggesting that I was parachuted into a seat that was safe, it was anything but.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Point of order, Mr. Speaker . POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I think the Honourable Member is inadvertently misleading the House. I was not referring to him being para . . . in fact, he was the antithesis of parachuting when I said that he only won by a handful of votes. He got the opposite experience of his colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker All right.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Because Dunkley won that; Dunkley won that seat.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Robert King: Thank you for that clarification. The other thing too is that when we are talking about a democracy, votes are not owned by any particular party. Parties vote according to what they believe the Government can do for them or a particular …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. MP Scott Simmons. Would you like your 20 minutes? ALARM RAISED OVER INSURANCE COMPANY MERGER IN BERMUDA
Mr. Scott Simmons Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker . I will just speak briefly on a number of issues. Mr. Speaker, at the last sitting of this Honourable House , two Honourable Members of our House spoke on two issues that I believe required (at the very minimum) some kind of repeat as it …
Mr. Scott Simmons Mr. Speaker, the other issue was when the Honourable Christopher Famous rose to his feet and he spoke rather passionately on the situation currently happening in the occupied territories and those that are happening in Gaza. And also the rela-tionship as they relate to Christians worldwide and as they relate …
Mr. Scott Simmons And lastly, Mr. Speaker, in this Honourable House I believe that we have a firm and distinct responsibility for every single Bermudian throughout Bermud a. If we do not recognise that we are considered leaders, that we are considered as individ-uals who make decisions on behalf of others, it is …
Mr. Scott Simmons Mr. Speaker, I will finish on this note that last week, at the last time of our sitting (and I won’t revisit it because I did not plan to revisit it here last week either), but I will say this ever so briefly in that in this House we must …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Wait, wait. No one else before Mr. Premier? Hon. E. David Burt: You don’t want to get back into that, do you? [Inaudible interjection]
The Speaker The Speaker Somebody else wishes to speak. Premier, somebody else is on their feet. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is a special person. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, I remember what happened last time when we thought that we were done. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker We thought we were done last time, Premier.
Mr. Dennis Lister III I apologise for being slow on my feet, Mr. Speaker . [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Now, you got to learn to be quick around here if you want your 20 minutes! [Laughter] ROAD SAFETY 1464 28 June 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Dennis Lister III: I just had to walk from across town and you see me fanning [myself] because I …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Mr. Speaker, that is unacceptable. You know, I hear MP Foggo say, Do I tell? I actually do go out of my way at times. But whether I am riding or driving, at times you see people might have forgotten their indicator is on. If I am on a bike, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Take a taxi home.
Mr. Dennis Lister III There you go. Mr. Speaker, as I said, this increase in the amount and the severity of accidents is a national cri-sis. You know, we are seeing a total disregard for the rules of the road. There is an attitude of, I can do what I want to do as …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member People are dying.
Mr. Dennis Lister III MP said it, Mr. Speaker . There are people dying. As I said, this is a national crisis, and we must all come together to do our part to address it. Mr. Speaker, we should not have to resort to these measures. No one wants to live in a police …
Mr. Dennis Lister III That does not mean that no one pays for that, Mr. Speaker. Government property. We have seen the crossing beacons knocked down, government walls, fences. Someone has to pay for that. Claims have to be made on that. Private property. If I am a resident [and] someone drives, knocks down …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to speak? Any other Member? Premier. ALARM RAISED OVER INSURANCE COMPANY MERGER IN BERMUDA Hon. E. David Burt: All right. Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, we have got through a little bit of business today dealing with some matters, and a …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. E. David Burt: That is what this is, Mr. Speaker. It is something that is . . . We said from day one, it is something that has been a Progressive Labour Party election platform far before I was a member of the party, Mr. Speaker , maybe …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: And it is important, Mr. Speaker, that the party that I lead and represent is true to its founding ideals and will remain there, Mr. Speaker , as difficult as it is. That is the reality, Mr. Speaker. You have to be consistent. You cannot …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Members, I thank you for the business that was done today. Thank you for the fact that we have got it done in an orderly fashion, and we have got it done in an early fashion so that we can enjoy an early evening out of …
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier, I appreciate your remarks just now. But you know, Mr. Premier, I have used this podium here on at least four occasions —four? probably—to make my feelings expressed . . . to express my feelings with regard to the genocide that is taking place in the Gaza Strip, …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Absolutely.
The Speaker The Speaker I have been around long enough, and I have seen . . . being told we cannot speak about other things. When apartheid was out there, we stood up against apartheid. When the British Government was supporting it, when the US was supporting it, we let our voices be heard. …
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