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House of Assembly Session 2023/2024 466 speeches

May 17, 2024

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The Premier announced that Standard & Poor's maintained Bermuda's strong A-plus credit rating, praising the government's economic policies and fiscal discipline. The Health Minister outlined new inspection standards for day care centres using a "STARS" rating system to ensure child safety. The Works Minister acknowledged serious lifeguard shortages at beaches, citing low pay as a key recruitment barrier, with starting lifeguards earning 18% less than the lowest-paid Parks Department workers. The Transport Minister unveiled plans for a digital payment app for public transport starting June 24th, allowing passengers to pay fares with smartphones.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date May 17, 2024
Session 2023/2024
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Speakers 23
Speeches 466

Key Topics

Standard & Poor's reaffirmed Bermuda's A-plus credit rating with stable outlookChild care regulation programme and safety standards for day care facilitiesLifeguard shortages at public beaches and recruitment challengesNew digital fare payment system launching for buses and ferries in JuneClarification on paid leave rules for workers who receive tips and gratuities

Bills & Motions

Court Fees and Expenses Amendment and Validation Rules 2024 - submitted by Attorney General for House consideration
No bills were debated or voted on during this sitting - this was primarily a statements and questions session

Notable Moments

Opposition MP Scott Pearman formally apologized to the Speaker for inappropriate remarks made during the previous House sitting
The Works Minister paused to honor Mr. Hyon Duk Shin, who died in April while helping rescue a drowning girl at Horseshoe Bay Beach
Only one formal objection was received during public consultation on the new City of Hamilton development plan, indicating broad public support

Debate Transcript

466 speeches from 23 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members The Clerk will now lead us in prayer. PRAYERS [ Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner , Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members , the House is now in session. [ Gavel] CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 3 May 2024]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes from the 3rd of May have been circulated. Are there any amendments required? No amendments. The Minutes are confirmed as printed. [ Minutes of 3 May 2024 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGIES
The Speaker The Speaker We have been informed by Minister Tinee Furbert that she will be absent today. And also MP Dennis Lister [III] will be absent today as well. HOUSE VISITORS
The Speaker The Speaker Whilst making announcements, I would like to acknowledge in the Gallery this morning that we have a visit from the Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, who are here as part of their (I believe) 111 th anniversary celebration. And we would just like to welcome you to our Chambers this morning …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker Madam Attorney General . Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. COURT FEES AND EXPENSES AMENDMENT AND VALIDATION RULES 2024 Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Speaker, with the Governor ’s recommendation and in accordance with section 36(3) of the Bermuda Constitution, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly Court …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. We have five Statements this morning, Members. The first is in the name of the Premier and Minis-ter of Finance. (I thought you were leaving us that time. There you go.) Present your Statement. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. 1214 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to—
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. I overlooked something. Hon. E. David Burt: It’s all right.
The Speaker The Speaker Please, please. I have to seek your indulgence; I am sorry. I was supposed to do something under the Announcements. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. APOLOGY FOR INAPPROPRIATE REMARK
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, I wish to offer you, as Speaker of this Honourable House, an apology for my remark made on the last sitting of the House. This happened in a context which lowered the decorum of the House, and I apologise for it.
The Speaker The Speaker We appreciate your apology. And we look forward to the point that we will not have to repeat that again. Thank you. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker Now we can continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. STANDARD & POOR’ S GLOBAL RATINGS AFFIRMATION OF A- PLUS SOVEREIGN CREDIT RATING Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to inform this Honourable House of the positive results of S&P’s [Standard & Poor Global …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Health. Minister. CHILD CARE REGULATION PROGRAMME — ENSURING SAFETY AND DEVELOPMENT Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to provide this House and the public with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is from the Minister of Works. Minister Burch. LIFEGUARD PROTECTION ON PUBLIC BEACHES
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and thank you. Mr. Speaker, Bermuda Day is next week Friday.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And as all in this Honourable House know , the festivities are the unofficial start of the summer season. Vacations, family reunions, picnics and beach days all begin after next week Friday for locals. But, Mr. Speaker, the vacation season starts sooner for some—m ainly, tourists who arrive to our …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister Furbert. UPDATE ON DIGITAL FARE MEDIA Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to the public. Mr. Speaker, can you imagine boarding a bus or a ferry …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister Hayward. CLARIFI CATION OF PAID LEAVE ENTITLEMENT PERTAINING TO PERSONS WHO RECEIVE OTHER GRATUITIES Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to provide to the Members …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister for the Cabinet. Minister Campbell. DRAFT CITY OF HAMILTON PLAN 2024 Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to the listening public. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that brings us to a close of Statements this morning. We will now move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker Members, you will see on the Order Paper today that we have written questions that were sub-mitted and required written responses. And I believe the responses have been forwarded. Yes? Hon. Jarion Richardson: They have not been received yet, Mr. Speaker. But I am sure they will.
The Speaker The Speaker [Is he] emailing them to you now? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, sir. QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN WRITING Economic Development Advisory Board Hon. Jarion C. Richardson: Will the Honourable Minister please provide to this Honourable House, the names of the persons sitting on the Economic Development Advisory Board outlined in the Economic …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Okay. For the questions this morning generated from Statements that were given, we do have questions this morning. And we will start the Question Period now. The first question this morning is in reference to the Statement by the Minister of Health. Minister of Health, MP Jackson would …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I just have a couple of questions for the Minister on the Child Care Regulation Programme. My first question, because it may have been missed during the budget brief, I am wondering if the Minister can just provide us with the total number of child …
The Speaker The Speaker Budget brief or her Statement you mean?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, from her Statement.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson But she may have mentioned it in the budget brief, but I missed it. And many people may have missed it.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. 1222 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. I would invite the Honourable Member to look at the budget brief, which provides the metrics and the numbers as it relates to that particular line item.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or second question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Where might the parents find a list of the registered, licensed child care providers? The Speaker: Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That can be found at www.gov.bm/child- careregulation- programme .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Another question?
The Speaker The Speaker New question. Yes. QUESTION 2: CHILD CARE REGULATION PROGRAMME —ENSURING SAFETY AND DEVELOPMENT
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My other question is, I am wondering if the Minister might be able to provide a little more information on the inspectors, the number of inspectors and whether they are coming out of the Ministry of Health, how that is formed. Yes. And then I have …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have the number in total of the inspectors, but they do all come under the Ministry of Health. It is a Child Care Regulation team, all of whom have extensive qualifications with respect to child care psy-chology. In …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson It is kind of a new question. Thank you for indulging.
The Speaker The Speaker Your third question then? QUESTION 3: CHILD CARE REGULATION PROGRAMME —ENSURING SAFETY AND DEVELOPMENT
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. My third question is if a parent . . . because, of course, these inspections are annual and the rest of the time there may not be that kind of oversight. I am just wondering where can parents and how do parents re-port if they have any questions or …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Kim N. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Honourable Member for that question. That is very important. As I indicated in the Statement, we will continue with public engagement so that they can recognise parents, soon- to-be parents and providers, and the benefits of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Members, that is the end of the questions for the Minister of Health. We now move on. Minister of Works, the Opposition Whip has questions for you this morning. QUESTION 1: LIFEGUARD PROTECTION ON PUBLIC BEACHES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Good morning, colleagues, and thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the last paragraph on page 2, the Minister mentions that there are other jurisdictions experiencing similar challenges. I am just curious as to whether or not the Minister is aware of the pay that the US, maybe New York or New …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I have no idea. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: Yes, supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. I am just curious. So the gauge of saying that we are going to potentially, as put in the Statement, that we are going to match it up with the lowest labour figures to get the lifeguards to that potential figure . . . I am just trying to …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, the figures that I gave would be guides. Part of the assessment will be to look at what the budget can sustain and what the industry standard is for that. And we will come out with a figure that is reflective of both of those considerations.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So again, so you are going to look at what the industry is doing then? Is that a confirmation of what I [asked], that you are going to be looking at the industry, using that as part of the gauge?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? I am sorry. You had two supplementaries. Second question?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Second question, yes.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. QUESTION 2: LIFEGUARD PROTECTION ON PUBLIC BEACHES
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Second question. Certainly. And also on page 3, it is mentioned about the . . . let me get to it. (My apologies.) “Exploring increasing the starting pay.” So when you say “exploring,” are we looking to implement something by this season during this year? Or are we looking at …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, the plan is to do it as soon as we possibly can within the current budgetary constraints. The challenge with lifeguards is that they have traditionally been seasonal. And so right away you can see there would be challenges in finding people wh o would be able to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Of the eight (I believe you mentioned) lifeguards that we have, how many are Bermudian or of Bermuda status, I should say?
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, the five reserve ones are Bermudian. So by “reserve” I mean they have a full -time job somewhere else. And they do lifeguarding as a weekend activity or evening activity.
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary or third question? No more questions. Minister of Works, that is the end of the questions for you. Thank you. The next questions this morning are for the Minister of Transport. 1224 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Minister of Transport, the Opposition Leader …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I believe that the system will be secure. I am sure that there will be times when there may be some challenges that take place. But we will continue to monitor what takes place. But even right now, I am not sure whether …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: None, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Thank you. Minister, you also have questions for you from MP Jackson. MP Jackson. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON DIGITAL FARE MEDIA
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if he might be able to provide a little information about the develop-ment of the Internet capacity, or the Internet coverage, given the fact that this will be the first time that Bermuda is really engaging in an interactiv …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, you are well aware that all of us, most of us who are in this room, have some way or type of Internet connection. And it is normally hooked up to Digicel or wherever they hook up their Internet. So that is not …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, supplementary. So will the buses then be fitted with some form of internet antenna so that will there be in the future maybe even Wi -Fi connection on buses?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, that is always a possibility that we can look at.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second supplementary or new question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson A new question.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. QUESTION 2: UPDATE ON DIGITAL FARE MEDIA
Ms. Susan E. Jackson With regard to our visitors on the Island, then yes, given our Internet connections and data programmes are getting more sophisticated, when our visitors come to the Island and they are only looking for this immediate Internet access in order to get on a public transportation bus, how does the …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Sure. All tourists, as you are aware, many tourists (as you know) already book for Internet when they come here and understand the pro-cess will be working. If that is what you are talking about. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Many tourists who land …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I do have a supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson But it is still within the context of Internet access.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson So what about in places in Bermuda where we do find, especially in natural places like Horseshoe Bay, if they are getting on the bus . . . I know that the Minister just said that he feels that most people already have data. But sometimes in some places in …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I know the Honourable Member is just searching for a type of question. I mean, you can go on and on and on and on. But the technology is here in Bermuda. Bermuda is a very sophisticated society. And there are times . …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary or new question? Okay. Thank you, Members, Ministers. That brings us to a close of questions for this morning. We will now move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Let me just reset our time in here. Would any Member wish to speak? MP Simmons -Wade.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons- Wade Good morning, Mr. Speaker and listening audience.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mrs. Ianthia Simmons -Wade I would first like to sadly give condolences to the family of the late Calvin Simons. I was last here and I gave condolences for his daughter, Lori, who was just [funeralised] a month ago. So I give condolences to his sister, Nelda; and his two remaining daughters, Shari and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. MP Simmons, I see you jumped very quickly. Would you like your three minutes? [Laughter]
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you. Good morning,
Mr. Speaker. The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons And good morning, Bermuda. I would just like to extend condolences to the family of Judith Ratteray, who passed the other day. People from the Sandys Secondary family would know her very well from the Home Economics Department.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons And her massive contribution to young men and ladies of that community. Very briefly, she was a constituent of mine at Packwood Home. And before that she was the godmother to my sister. So we have a very close tie to the family, and 1226 17 May 2024 Official Hansard …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons But we are very proud of her. She is an outstanding individual. And we expect even greater things from her in the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Simmons. MP Caesar —Minister, just before —everybody behind you is getting before you this morning. MP Caesar.
Ms. Crystal Caesar Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, you have noted that there are several beautiful ladies in the Gallery today adorned in red, as am I. [Desk thumping, inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Ms. Crystal Caesar No, they are not here to support the OBA. They are actually the ladies —
The Speaker The Speaker I thought it was pre- Cup Match! [Laughter]
Ms. Crystal Caesar Yes. Yes. I will say that. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
The Speaker The Speaker I hear everybody in the back agreeing with that, too.
Ms. Crystal Caesar Well, I forgive them for that. I forgive them for that.
The Speaker The Speaker Sure.
Ms. Crystal Caesar No, they are not here for those reasons. They are the illustrious members of the Bermuda Alumni Chapter of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated. [Desk thumping]
Ms. Crystal Caesar My sororals and I are celebrating our inaugural Delta Days in Bermuda, which is akin to the similar conference in the United States, Washington, DC, in the capital at the United States Congress. In particular, the Social Action Committee of the Bermuda Alumni Chapter arranged for this event as a …
Ms. Crystal Caesar In addition, this is the 25 th year of our signature community event which promotes reading and literacy, popularly known as the Reading Festival, Children’s Reading Festival. I now take this time to greet my sororals and welcome them to the Chamber. Welcome, ladies. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister Burch.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, good morning.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I would like to offer condolences to the family of Lucinda Wor-rell Stowe. Mr. Speaker, I had known Lucinda for more than 50 years. We served in Youth Parliament together and have been friends ever since. Mr. Speaker, I had the tremendous amount of respect for her. She …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch When she taught there it was the Educational Centre where you sent students who could not survive or operate in the normal school environment to that place. And she demonstrated a skill set that every teacher should have, which goes beyond just teaching the curriculum that is provided for in …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch And there are countless other young people who fall into that same category. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. MP Caines, you were pretty quick that time.
Mr. Wayne Caines Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, I would like for this Honourable Chamber to offer condolences to the family of Morris Francis. Mr. Francis is what we would call an icon in Bermuda. He attended the Howard Academy. He and a group of comrades formed the company that we now know as Tools & …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. The House will, and I am sure she had a challenge with at least one or two of those four children whom she raised.
Mr. Wayne Caines I am informed that one or two of those children gave difficulty, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Well, we could have anticipated that one. Thank you, Member. We will share in her birthday celebrations. Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker, to you and Members of the House and the community. I would like to give a couple of condolences. I would …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. MP Swan. I think you beat everybody down in the back there in your moves that time.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is right. I do have a little bit of an ailment, but not enough to prevent me from having heartfelt condo-lences sent to the family of one of my mentors, Mr. Arthur Chesley Trott, who was my art teacher at Warwick Sec, who was taught …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Foggo.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Good morning to the House, and good morning to the people of Bermuda. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences for [the family of] Mrs. Robinson, the mother of Gina Swainson, Donna Swainson and Kit Swainson. I often on my early morning walks would pass her …
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo May 17 is their birthday. So I just want the House— I will associate the House with these birthday greetings for both. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Mr. Whip, you have your three minutes.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, it would certainly be remiss if I did not get up and associate myself with the condolences to Morris Francis. Everything my Honourable Member Caines said about him is true. However, I have to correct him that Morris was one of …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou, Mr. W hip. Minister C ampbell. Hon. V ance Campbell: Thank y ou, Mr. S peaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to send congratulatory remarks to the Simons Brothers on the successful release of their new music video called “Swing.” In two weeks on YouTube they have …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank y ou, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Minister Weeks, you may make your contribution now. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start off by being associated with the remarks for Lucinda Worrell Stowe. …
The Speaker The Speaker There you go. All right. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: But it is just to show Angela Bascome is also a significant member of Delta Sigma Theta.
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: So, congrats to Delta. [ Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker All right, Minister. You bare yourself out there, Minister. You did all right. All right. MP Richardson.
Mr. Anthony Richardson Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and to those in the listening audience and my colleagues. I was told that I can choose between “beautiful” and “ladies in red.” I choose both. Congratulations to everybody, and to my colleague who sits next to me and keeps me in check. But, Mr. Speaker, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be associated with the condolences that have been offered by the Minister of Public Works to the family of Ms. Lucinda Worrell …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Madam Attorney General. He took a little of your thunder. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: I know. He is always stealing my thunder. But that is okay because it is for a good cause.
The Speaker The Speaker There you go. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Of course, I want to associate [myself with] the remarks that the Premier made about my niece, who continues to show great resilience on her overseas journey. Kenni left here at a very young age, and I am always, always stunned by her …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Adams.
Mr. Jache Adams Mr. Speaker, I am just going to be brief this morning and simply echo the sentiments of those, particularly members in the Greek organisation, and say my congratulations and be associated to the congratulatory remarks to the ladies of Delta Sigma Theta.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You had better.
Mr. Jache Adams I had better, as they say. [Laughter]
Mr. Jache Adams Absolutely. I have witnessed firsthand the role that they play in the community and the value that they add. And I just want to commend them and hope that they continue to work and pursue progress forward. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? None other. Before we move on, I am just going to make a couple of brief remarks. MP Caines, MP Swan bailed you out by remembering one significant detail you forgot to mention in your birthday [greetings]. But you …
The Speaker The Speaker And we would like to acknowledge her presence here this morning. And, Ms. Chamber -Bliss, I trust that you enjoy your time here with us this morning. And I will not say it will be one of the highlights of your visit to Bermuda. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker But I hope that you leave here with pleasant memories of your time here this morning. With that said, I would like to add my condolences to some remarks. Condolences raised to Mr. Cal Simons. And, MP Wade- Simmons, I was quite shocked to hear that this morning, even though …
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker With that said, it now leads us to the order of business for today. And the first item this morning 1232 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly is consideration of the Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23 in the name of the Premier/Minister of …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. The matter has now been approved if there are no objections. Continue, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that we resolve ourselves into Committee of Supply . . . Sorry. I need to give the introduction part before we …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. We are both mis -stepping this morning. Hon. E. David Burt: No problem, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. BILL SECOND READING SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 3) FOR FINANCIAL YEAR 2022/23 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Schedule identifies three items totalling $6,723,610 to be included in the Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for 2022/23, all on current account. Honourable Members …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Foggo, will you assume the Chair so we can take the House into committee? House in Committee at 11:4 5 am [Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 3) FOR FINANCIAL YEAR 2022/23
The Chairman Chairman Good morning, Members. We are now in Committee of Supply for consideration of Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23. There are three items in this supplementary estimate to be considered. I call on the Minister in charge for item number 1, Ministry of Education, or the Minister filling …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. So, hold on. We will move to item 3, the Ministry of National Security. Minister, continue. Bermuda House of Assembly MINISTRY OF NATIONAL SECURITY HEAD 25 —DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, I will now present the 2022/23 Supplementary Estimate for Head …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Head 25? I recognise the Deputy Opposition Leader. You have the floor, Member.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Madam Chairman. Thank you to the Minister for the update on this supplementary. A couple of questions. Considering that the Opposition brought up during this recent budget debate that there was going to be a need, because of the shortfall that we had seen in Corrections, that we …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Head 25? There being no other Members, Minister, I call on you. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chairman. And thank you to the Honourable Member who had a contribution to make. I would like to …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members who wish to speak? If there are being none, then I will have the Minister move that the head be approved. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Madam Chairman. I now move that Head 25 of the Supplementary Estimate [(No. 3)] for the fiscal …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Head 25 for the Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23 be approved. Any objections? There being none, so approved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of National Security Head 25 was approved and stands part of the of the Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. I now call on the Minister for Head 82. Minister. MINISTRY OF PUBLIC WORKS —HEAD 82 WORKS & ENGINEERING
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Thank you, Madam Chairman. In relation to Head 82 supplemental brief, the Ministry of Public Works budgets $5.5 million each year as an estimated amount to be recharged to other government departments for work done at the Government Quarry for non- public works activities. This work includes fuel for all …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Head 82? I recognise Member Cannonier. Member Cannonier, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Madam Chairman. And I recognise the challenge with these recharges. I must say, having had to experience it firsthand, it is a bit illogical to process it how we are doing this here. And I know it is probably frustrating for the Minister, as well. And I am …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Head 82? There being none, Minister.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Madam Chairman, the Shadow is understating my views on this matter. [Laughter]
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch But what I can say is that I have stood on this floor for a number of occasions talking about recharges. Let me just say I do not fully understand why the bureaucratic process is the way it is. I am not an accountant. And the accountants cannot explain it …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Head 82 be approved. Are there any objections? There being none, approved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Public Works Head 82 was approved and stands part of the of the Supplementary Estimate ( No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23.]
The Chairman Chairman I now call on the Minister for Head 17 to put Head 17 for consideration. Thank you, Minister. MINISTRY OF EDUCATION—HEAD 17 LIBRARIES AND ARCHIVES Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, the requirement for a supplementary estimate, more often than not, indicates un-foreseen challenges in …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Head 17? I recognise the Member Smith. Member, you have the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Madam Chairman. And thank you to the Minister. If the Minister could provide for us, considering that there was an added change with the reform happening, what percentage increase would have been caused in that year because of the reform that would have been different from other years? …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Member. Are there any other Members who wish to speak? There being none, I call on the Minister. 1236 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Madam Chairman. Madam Chairman, one thing that I would like to add …
The Chairman Chairman Are there any other Members who wish to speak to Head 17? There being none, Minister, can you move the head for approval? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, colleagues, and thank you, Madam Chairman. I now move that Head 17 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Head 17 be approved. Are there any objections? There being none, approved. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Education Head 17 was approved and stands part of the Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23.]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Mr. Chairman, noting that all heads have been approved, I move that Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23 be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23 be reported to the House as printed. There are no objections. Approved. [Motion carried: The Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23 was considered by the Committee of Supply and passed without amendment.]
The Chairman Chairman I call on the Speaker to resume his Chair. House resumed at 12: 06 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (NO. 3) FOR FINANCIAL YEAR 2022/23
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the consideration of Supplementary Estimate (No. 3) for Financial Year 2022/23 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The matter has been reported as printed. We will now move on to the next item. The second item on the Orders of …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Continue. Bermuda House of Assembly BILL SECOND READING REGISTRATION (BIRTHS AND DEATHS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise today to introduce the Bill entitled the Registration (Births and Deaths) Amendment Act 2024. The Bill seeks …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? None. Would any Member like to speak to that? MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the Honourable Minister and Deputy Premier. A couple of questions on this, but it can be dealt with in Committee. But I would just flag a few points. Obviously the odd point is that only two sittings ago we had an amendment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Foggo.
Ms. Lovitta F. Foggo Yes, ever so briefly. Mr. Speaker, I just want to emphasise the gratitude for bringing this amendment to the House for consideration because not just during COVID -19, but we have seen many occasions where persons who are riddled with grief are not able to find closure because they are …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Jackson, you have the floor.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to my feet representing members of our community who really have had a very hard time getting a death certificate. And in many cases it does go back to COVID -19. And I guess one of the big lessons learned for our community in …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? No other Member. Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for the questions of Members. It is very much understood that this has been a rather sensitive issue for quite some …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. House in Committee at 12:28 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL REGISTRATION (BIRTHS AND DEATHS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole for further consideration of the Bill entitled the Registration (Births and Deaths) Amendment Act 2024 . Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. Mr. Chairman, I would like to move the clauses …
The Chairman Chairman We will adjourn and return at two o’clock. Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:2 9 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2:02 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL REGISTRATION (BIRTHS AND DEATHS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024 [Continued]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members. I hope you all enjoyed your lunch and it was nutritious to you all. This is the resumption of the debate. We are in Committee and the Bill that we are debating is the Registration (Births and Deaths) Amendment [Act] 2024. In charge of the Bill is …
The Chairman Chairman Any objections? There appear to be none. Continue. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Bill entitled the Registration (Births and Deaths) Amendment Act 2024 . T his Bill seeks to amend the Registration (Births and Deaths) Act 1949 to provide for the issuance of a short certificate …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Minister and Deputy Premier. As prefaced in the debate, there are a couple of high- level questions. If we look at clause 3, I am just really wondering about the practicalities of this. We have a Bill where the coroner and the medical practi-tioner …
The Chairman Chairman You may. Hon. Walter H. Roban: May I speak with your permission?
The Chairman Chairman Yes— Hon. Walter H. Roban: That is why I asked.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, that is okay. Hon. Walter H. Roban: As I presented with the clauses, clause 3 as articulated, “ Clause 3 amends section 11[ (7)] of the Act, which requires a medical practitioner or coroner to give notice of [the] death to the Registrar General in Form E, to clarify …
The Chairman Chairman I think the speaker asked who is going to give the certificate. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Well, it is the coroner . . . well, the information comes from the doctor, medical practitioner or the coroner to the Registrar. It is the Registrar that issues the certificate. Neither the coroner …
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Walter H. Roban: That is the only person who has the power to issue a certificate.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Not any of those other parties.
The Chairman Chairman Right. Any further speakers? Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In relation to clause 4, Minister, the current position is there as he . . . we were just discussing, there is a Form E, and that is what exists now. And this amendment Act is implementing a new short form, Form F1 which can be …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Any further speakers? Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Minister. So, Minister, the purpose (as I understand it) is to try to expedite delays. And the delays as you explained in your speech are in part owing to the fact that certain medical practitioners or coroner do not want to certify the …
Mr. Scott Pearman The Minister is nodding his head to confirm. The question I have is this: If you look at paragraphs 1 through 5 (inclusive) of Form E, and you compare them with clause 6 in Form F[1], the Form E that still has to be completed even truncatedly, paragraphs 1 through …
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Hello. I do not mind the question. I do not think it will because what we have de-scribed here is what practitioners and those who have to deal with these matters (whether it be the coroner, whether it be the undertaker, whether it be the …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: It will ultimately . . . you will have a long form certificate issued for a deceased person over time, once those issues of which cannot be resolved at that time, cannot be resolved . . . the expectation is that they will be with …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Pearman. Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Minister. So my understanding of your answer is that notwithstanding that the short form death certificate doesn’t require a place of birth, we are still going to make the people filling in the preliminary form find out that information and fill it in. Wouldn’t it make more sense …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Pearman. Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 6 —Minister, you have indicated that the purpose here is to produce the short form certificate of death that we see at clause 6. Are you confident that that short form certificate of death will satisfy probate requirements? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes, I …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Mr. Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not sure if the preamble has been moved. My question relates to the preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been —
The Chairman Chairman Nothing has been moved.
Mr. Scott Pearman I will wait until the preamble. Thank you.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wish to confirm that we have moved clauses 1 through 8.
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to clauses 1 through 8 being approved. There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 8 passed.] Hon. Walter H. Roban: I wish to move that the preamble be approved, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: It has been moved that the preamble …
Mr. Pearman. Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Honourable Minister , in the preamble it indicates that the shortened notification of death will be an initial shortened notification of death and from your previous answer I just want to clarify my understanding. So someone will actually receive a short form death certif-icate and that …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I wouldn’t use your word differing. One is the short form to facilitate. Ultimately the long form will be the preeminent document for all time. The short form is to facilitate the immediate needs that are required following the death and the estate and all …
The Chairman Chairman So there are two forms to make the complete form. Form [F]1 and Form E, you said? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. As we have created, we have created the short form which will also be a legal document as well.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you, to that answer, Mr. Chairman. Will the long form when issued subsequent to the short form then replace the short form? Or will they both be there in tandem?
The Chairman Chairman Minister. Hon. Walter H. Roban: They will be both in tandem on the file.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you for that [answer] as well. Do you have a timeframe between short form and how long you think the long form will take? Thank you. The Chairman: Mm-hmm. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I don’t think I can actually, at this point, give that answer. But as soon as …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Pearman. Mr. Scott Pearman Finally, Mr. Chairman, Does the Minister know when this will come into effect? When will we start to see short forms?
The Chairman Chairman The commencement date. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Chairman —
The Chairman Chairman Yes— Hon. Walter H. Roban: As I said, commencement will start with assent. So, once this has passed, that pro-cess will be available for people to take advantage of.
The Chairman Chairman I think he is asking for a time period, what you think. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Okay, I will confer if you just give me a moment. [Pause] Hon. Walter H. Roban: An estimate is in a matter of weeks, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? [Do you] want to move the preamble? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. I would like to complete moving the preamble.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There are none. Preamble is approved. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I move that the Bill be reported to the House as printed, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as printed. Any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bill will be reported to the House as printed. Mr. Speaker. [Motion carried: The Registration (Births and Deaths) Amendment Act 2024 was considered by a 1244 …
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon, Members. Are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Registration (Births and Deaths) Amendment Act 2024 being reported to the House as printed? There are none. The Bill has been reported. We will now move on to the next item, and with the indulgence of the House …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that consideration be given the draft Order entitled the Tourism Investment (Hamilton Princess and Beach Club) Order 2024 pr oposed to be made by the Minister responsible for Tourism with the written agreement of the Minister of Fi-nance in exercise of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Proceed.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I move that the said draft Order . . . sorry. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to invite this Honourable House to take this Order under consideration. Mr. Speaker, the application for Tourism Investment Act was submitted in respect of Phase IV of the redevelopment …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Junior Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Opposition Whip, you have the floor.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you. And good afternoon, Mr. Speaker and colleagues.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier You know, we have been down this road several times having seen this for sev-eral other hotels that have applied, and been successful in applying, for these concessions. And yes, the Junior Minister is correct that this provision since 2023 has come into effect. We want to give thanks to …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER 1246 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly [Misleading] Hon. Jason Hayward: The Member is inadvertently misleading the House. Our unemployment rate was measured at 2.5 per cent. That is the lowest unemployment rate since 1980. And so we cannot say …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Thank you, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Member, be mindful of the interjection from the Minister.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, thank you. Thank you, thank you. And I would admonish the Minister who just [stood] up and gave a clarification on a point to really think about what he is saying right now. The truth is that we are not at that. He can say that we are at …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, the Shadow Minister made a statement that we are not there. But I can tell you that the Hamilton Princess —which is the . . . the Order is about Hamilton Princess not Southampton Princess, by the way. (Just for anybody who might be listening.) But in 2020, Hamilton …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan So, Mr. Speaker, it is . . . we are dealing with the Hamilton Princess Order.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Correct.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I can understand the Shadow Minister is using the opportunity to make some political points.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, just be mindful again of . . . we will want to believe that what the Junior Minister just provided was factual information.
The Speaker The Speaker I would ask you just to be mindful of that.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And as a clarification, what I was speaking to was the industry across the board. I said that I have spoken to several other hotels in the 70 per cent category and not one of them has gotten up to say [that] anyone else, other than Hamilton Princess, has this. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Where are the people coming from? So, that is my point. So, I thank them for the clarification on Hamilton Princess, but as an industry that is what I was talking about. So they can get exercised if they want. All I am saying is that it is going to …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So if the Government does not wish to see the reality in where we are with this particular situation, yes, you can throw out. And it is clear. If the public is listening, Oh, well, we got 70 per cent in this category and that category. It speaks for itself. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It speaks for itself. [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Where is your source?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So, we are glad that the Greens are going ahead. I . . . we . . . I would ask him. Where does his source come from? I am still waiting for them, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —to tell me about all the other hotels and their occupancy. Tell me! If I am wrong — Bermuda House of Assembly [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier If I am wrong, tell me about the other hotels. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier We are talking about the industry . Hamilton Princess is a part of an industry and that is what we are speaking to. They can interpolate all they want. Give me some facts about the other hotels, then. Give me some facts! You have none. So, with that in mind …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, it is coming. Just like it is zero per cent, or . . . let’s just say this here. It is 100 per cent unemployment at Fairmont Southampton.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh! Oh!
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It has not happened and it has been years. We were promised over and over. [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It is happening.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier It is happening. It is happening. Yes, everything is coming. Christmas is coming. New Year’s is coming. May 24 is coming. It is all coming. And an election is coming.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hmmm.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And an election is coming. So, let’s have it. Call the election so we can get some facts. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I take exception to some of the comments that the previous speaker made. We probably will not make 70 per cent down at St. Regis because you can understand that the former Government gave them 100, I think …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member At least they are open. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: So, we will not make 70 per cent down there.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member It’s politics. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: And this Bill that we are discussing is about Hamilton Princess.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Thank you. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: And the Princess’s in both their histories, both hotels in their history always had above 70 per cent.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr.: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Caines.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh-oh.
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead.
Mr. Wayne Caines I think oftentimes we forget that we are actually on the same side. Sometimes we have the opportunity to highlight some things that we are doing well. Sometimes we have the opportunity to say these are things and the ways that they can be tweaked. I think we need to …
Mr. Wayne Caines If we can scream from our seats, please let me know if the rules have changed, Mr. Speaker. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Speak to the Chair. You are all right. Speak to the Chair.
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. Scott Pearman The honourable speaker at the moment is misleading the House. MP Cannonier did not say the Hamilton Princess. He said industry -wide. Thank you.
Mr. Wayne Caines I stand to be corrected. And I thank the learned Member for his intervention. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Wayne Caines I think it is most important for us to understand that we have a country and as much as we want to blame things and put it at the feet of the people in this room, this country . . . for a number of years, when we are talking …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member They ain’t got no money.
Mr. Wayne Caines Now we are saying we need and we have to get investment coming into Bermuda. We are saying now these are the investments that we are doing. We look down to the countries in the Caribbean. How are they going with this investment? We know they have similar legislation that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Caines. MP Famous, would you like to make a contribution at this time?
Mr. Christopher Famous Yes, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon to you. Excuse me for not — [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Excuse me for not being here at the morning session, but I was working until 8:05 and I had to get some rest. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Remember that on my payday. [Laughter] Mr. Christopher Famous: Mr. Speaker, often we have these (what [do] they call that?) . . . fables. Right? Fables?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm. Another Hon. Member: Stories.
Mr. Christopher Famous Stories. Some are true; some are not. Some are relevant. And there is this fable called the Tortoise and the Hare. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous You are hearing the Tortoise and the Hare? So anyway, we all know the story. The hare thought he was fast. He slowed down. The tortoise caught him up and kept going and beat him. So, Mr. Speaker, I think maybe one or two people who are sitting in this …
Mr. Christopher Famous The fact of the matter is [that] it was the UBP who destroyed the narrative that tourism is good. Yes! Yes, indeed, because we were not the Government when we put tourism aside. So we are the Government now and we are investing in tourism. We are looking at the …
Mr. Christopher Famous So I say, Maybe industry — [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Christopher Famous You want to apologise again today? Talk to the Chair. [Laughter] 1250 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Direct the comments here. The floor is yours, Mr. Famous. Mr. Famous —
Mr. Christopher Famous Talk to the Chair. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Famous, talk to the Chair. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker — [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member I don’t want to hear about it.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to the Chair.
Mr. Christopher Famous The fact of the matter . . . if we do not have 70 per cent industry -wide is a reflection on every one of us in this House, not any given party. Every one of us in this House, [for] the last few gener-ations, has turned their back [on] …
Mr. Christopher Famous The fact of the matter, Mr. Speaker, is that this Government, led by several tourism Ministers, led by several BTA chairs, have insisted that we start investing in our people getting back into tourism, hospitality. Not just as waiters. Not just as bar-tenders. But as we see in the Hamilton …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Famous. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? None other . . . Minister Campbell. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I support the Hamilton Princess’s application for a Tourism Investment Order under the Tourism Investment Act 2017, as …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And we wonder why we are having problems. Hon. Vance Campbell: Any hotel that has an interest in taking advantage of the provisions and the conces-sions offered under that Act has to make an application that is specific to their operations. So they are looked at individually as to whether …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hotel by hotel basis. Hon. Vance Campbell: Hotel by hotel. Also, Mr. Speaker, there is no provision in the Tourism Investment Act 2017, as amended in 2023, that says the 70 per cent has to be evenly distributed across departments within the hotel. As long as the overall percentage of …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Keep your conversation this way, gentlemen. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, the Honourable Member is misleading the House. We never intimated, as such, 70 per cent across the industry. We mentioned specific hotels. Never said across the industry. It was difficult for a hotel to get 70 per cent. Not acr oss the industry.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is what you said.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No one said that. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, we all heard what he said. His colleague sitting right next to him reinforced what he said. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Vance Campbell: Which was he was talking about the industry as a whole.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That is what he said. Hon. Vance Campbell: That is what he said. And those listening in in the public domain, they heard it as well. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Vance Campbell: They heard it as well. I am a little excited. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Vance Campbell: No, I am not …
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Hon. Vance Campbell: But at least I read the legislation—
The Speaker The Speaker Direct your conversation this way. Gentlemen, don’t get involved in an exchange back and forth. Hon. Vance Campbell: So, in 2023, this Government saw the wisdom in amending the Tourism Investment Act 2017 to increase the timeframe that the concessions were available for under the Act, from 10 years to …
The Speaker The Speaker Speak this way. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Speaker, we had a special Act for the Fairmont Southampton. Just like we have a special Act for that hotel called St. Regis, or, as the Act would call it, the Hotelco. [Inaudible interjection] Hon. Vance Campbell: Done by the OBA, yes. So, …
The Speaker The Speaker Member! Hon. Vance Campbell: So we have the Cambridge Beaches, which took advantage. They are open! We have the Ariel Sands . . . took advantage along with the Ariel Sands [sic]. And all those complaining of that, they are open!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Azura? Hon. Vance Campbell: Azura. That’s what I meant. I said Ariel Sands, but I meant Azura. Thank you for that correction. [Crosstalk ] 1252 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Vance Campbell: So the changes that the Government made in 2023 are bearing fruit. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? None other. Junior Minister.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise at this time to note that not many questions — [Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —were posed, so I will say this: There seems to be definitely universal support for the Tourism Investment (Hamilton Princess and Beach Club) Order 2024, Mr. Speaker, that was presented today. There were by the Shadow Minister a couple of points worth mentioning in this formal wrap- up. And I …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Coral Beach? Wait a minute.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Coral Island. He could at Coral Beach, but he was at Coral Island. But it is what, now? It is a private residence. Yes. And places like Belmont Manor, [when] I grew up 50 years ago, is a private residence. And places like Palmetto Bay, where I used to frequent …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hmmm.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan So the mind- set between the closures over those properties to transition away from the many 12,000 beds that we had in this country did not happen overnight. It happened with a change in mind -set away from tourism toward international company business that allowed persons to look at their …
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections.
The Speaker The Speaker There aren’t. The appropriate message will be sent. [Motion carried: The draft Order entitled the Tourism Investment (Hamilton Princess and Beach Club) Order 2024 was approved.]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, that brings us to the end of that matter. We will now return to Order [No.] 3. Minister, are you ready for that? Okay. The second reading of the Computer Misuse Act 2024 will now be led by the Minister of National Se-curity. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Is it— Hon. Michael A. Weeks: In Committee?
The Speaker The Speaker Is in in reference to your clause? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, for a clause.
The Speaker The Speaker Do it in Committee. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: In Committee? Okay. Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill entitled Computer Misuse Act 2024 be now read the second time.
The Speaker The Speaker Are there any objections? There are none. Proceed. BILL SECOND READING COMPUTER MISUSE ACT 2024 Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Speaker, the Bill before this Honourable House is the Computer Misuse Act 2024. This Bill repeals and replaces the Computer Misuse Act 1996. In the past five years the Department …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Would any other Member like to make a contribution at this time? Opposition Leader. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, it is quite key that Bermuda updates our laws relating to the misuse of computers. It probably goes without saying, but I have to …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Jason Hayward : The Member is misleading the House. Any legislation that has regulatory powers given to the Minister, the regulations then need to be laid in this Honourable House. And so it does not give any Minister carte blanche the ability …
The Speaker The Speaker Point taken. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Be guided by that. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, I completely disagree. The reason is because it takes time to [table] regulations in this House and until that time these regulations can be acted upon.
The Speaker The Speaker Regulations will follow — Hon. Walter H. Roban: Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Regulations will normally follow. Once the legislation is tabled, it is dealt with, the legislation . . . the regulations will follow at some point. Okay? POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. Walter H. Roban: Point of order, Mr. Speaker. I think you provided some clarity, but I think for the …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Oh! Oh! Hon. Walter H. Roban: But the law does not give Ministers wide powers to act unrestricted. There is no legislation that does that. There are prescribed parameters a Minister can operate [within]. Regulations help to even further prescribe how one can operate. But there is no l egislation …
The Speaker The Speaker Point taken. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. So there are concerns.
The Speaker The Speaker Just be guided, in your comments, be guided by the fact that the structure has parameters which will still . . . in which the Ministers will still have to be governed by. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, Mr. Speaker. But these are subjective terms that we are speaking about. Not, …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate Members’ contributions with regard to the drafting particularities of this Act, but let me just make it clear. Everybody in this House knows that …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Minister Campbell. Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to start by thanking the Minister for tabling this Bill in a previous sitting of this Honourable House so that we might debate it here …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a comment? None. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Honourable Members for participating in this Computer Misuse Act 2024. Like it has been said by my colleagues, this is to bring …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. House in Committee at 3:33 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILL 1 The Computer Misuse Act 1996 COMPUTER MISUSE ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further considera-tion of the Bill entitled the Computer Misuse [ Act] 2024 . Minister Weeks, you have the floor. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, before I move the clauses, I would like to get your advice or guidance. I would like to make an amendment on the floor.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Do I wait to the—
The Chairman Chairman What clause? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Fourteen.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. When you get there, we will— Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. When I get to 14—
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that the Bill entitled Computer Misuse Act [2024] be committed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to move clauses 1 through 7.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Clause 1 provides a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 provides for the definitions of some of the terms and expressions in the Bill. Particular defini-tions in the Bill include the definitions of the terms “com-puter,” “damage,” “data,” “Minister” and “output.” Sub-sections (2) to (9), …
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers on clauses 1 through 7? The Chair recognises the Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Richardson. You have the floor, Member. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I thank the Honourable Minister for his presentation. Mr. Chairman, I would draw attention to clause 6(7)—
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Jarion Richardson: —both (a) and (b) wherein the offence, provided under [clause] 6 is “Unauthorised acts causing, or creating risk of, serious damage” and the penalty associated with that is “a person . . . on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for life, or to a fine of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speakers? Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I welcome the Opposition Leader’s comments. And there is not much more I can add as to the offences.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: You know, if you commit a crime you got to do the time or you are going to pay in whatever other way. So, Mr. Chairman, at this time I would like to move that clauses 1 through 7 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 7 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 7 passed.] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I would now like to move clauses 8 through 11.
The Chairman Chairman [Clauses] 8 through 11. Continue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Clause 8 provides for territorial scope of offences under this Bill and updates the provisions of section 7(1) of the current Act. Under this clause it is immaterial for the purposes of any offence under section 3, 5 or 6 as …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any speakers to clauses 8 through 11? The Chair recognises the Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Richardson. You have the floor. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. In this case I would like to bring our attention to clause 11, talking about offences …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Any further speakers? No. Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I appreciate the contribution by the Honourable Opposition Leader, but I think the crime, the penalty will be commensurate with the crime. So if the investigation would take longer than what would …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 8 through 11 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 8 through 11 passed.] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I now move clauses 12 through 19. 1260 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report …
The Chairman Chairman Well, Minister, why don’t you do [clauses] 12 and 13 and then we will do [clause] 14 after [clauses] 12 and 13? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for your direction.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I would now like to move clauses 12 and 13.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Clause 12 provides for proceedings for the offence under section 3 to be brought within a period of 12 months either after the offence is committed or from the date on which evidence that war-rants proceedings came to the knowledge of the Director of Publi …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers to clauses [12] and [13] ? There appear to be none. Do you want to move those two clauses, Minister? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I would like to move clauses 12 and 13.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 12 and 13 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 12 and 13 passed.] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Now, clause 14 I have . . .
The Chairman Chairman An amendment? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Hang on.
The Chairman Chairman I don’t have a copy. [Crosstalk]
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Thank you. Thank you, cousin. Continue. AMENDMENT TO CLAUSE 14 Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I would like to amend clause 14 as follows: In clause 14(3)(c) by deleting “within a period of 72 hours and substituting the words “as soon as reasonably practicable.”
The Chairman Chairman Any objections to that? No objections. No objections to that, do you want to move that? Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Can I finish . . . read the rest of the clause—
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Do the rest of the clause and — Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Okay. Clause 14 provides for police powers of investigation, entry and seizure. The clause is an updated version of section 11 of the current Act, with reference now being made to the powers of the police under …
The Chairman Chairman With the . . . Hon. Michael A. Weeks: As amended.
The Chairman Chairman As amended. It has been moved that clause 14 be approved as amended. Any objections? Clause 14 is approved as amended. [Motion carried: Clause 14 passed as amended.] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I now move that clauses 15 through 19—
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Clause 15 provides for forfeiture of any property in a person’s possession or under his control at the time he was apprehended for an offence or when a summons in respect of the offence was issued, which was used to commit or facilitate the commission …
The Chairman Chairman Any speakers . . . the Chair recognises the Honourable Member Richard [sic] Pearman. Mr. Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, during the debate there was a bit of toing- and-froing between the learned MP behind me and the Deputy Premier and the Opposition Leader. And I believe the Attorney General may have weighed in. And if I may, I will just weigh in on …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman And I will try to do so lightly, but just to explain the issue in case it was not appreciated. Forgive me if I am saying something that everyone in this room already understands. And that is, we have primary legislation and we have secondary legislation. Primary legislation is an …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman If you look, Mr. Chairman, at clause 17, “The Minister may, by regulations,” (no problem there) “make amendments to” (and here is the problem) “such enactments . . .”. If “such enactments” is removed, no problem with this clause.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman Because the Minister may by regulations make amendments to instruments as it appears to the Minister to be necessary. You can use secondary legislation to amend secondary legislation. What you should not be able to do is use secondary legislation to amend primary legislation.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Mr. Scott Pearman: That should come back to Parliament and the primary Act should be looked at and amended. And that is the point that is being made here. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers?
Mr. Scott Pearman I’m sorry. I will just add that this clause does not appear in the 1990 UK legislation. This is a clause that has been put into our Bill here in Bermuda. It is not in the primary Act from the UK.
The Chairman Chairman Any further speakers? Attorney General. Hon. Kathy Lynn Simmons: Mr. Chairman, that is not an unusual enactment.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Any further speakers? Minister. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, as always, it is a pleasure to have the Attorney General on your side. [Laughter] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: She just cleared up the language for me because I was not really following the Honourable Member on the other …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 15 through 19 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 15 through 19 passed.] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I now move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Bill entitled Computer Misuse Act 2024 be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman As amended. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: As amended. 1262 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: It has been moved that the Bill be reported to the House as amended. The Bill will be reported to the House. [Motion carried: The Computer Misuse Act 2024 …
The Chairman Chairman Mr. Speaker. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. House resumed at 3 :55 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE COMPUTER MISUSE ACT 2024
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bill entitled the Computer Misuse Act 2024 being reported to the House as amended? There are none. The Bill has now been reported. Thank you. Members, and listening audience, that brings us to the close of the business for today as far as …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. Continue, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING REGISTRATION (BIRTHS AND DEATHS) AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill now be read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. Thank you, Minister. [Motion carried: The Registration (Births and Deaths) Amendment Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker The next item would be . . . I will take them in the order that we debated them. The consider-ation of the Tourism Investment . . . No. No, third reading. That was an Order. That’s right. So now the Computer Misuse [Act 2024]. Minister of National Security. SUSPENSION …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. Continue on, Minister. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING COMPUTER MISUSE ACT 2024 Hon. Michael A. Weeks: I move that the Bill be now read a third time by its title only and passed.
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by its title only and is now passed. [Motion carried: The Computer Misuse Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.] [Crosstalk]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The Deputy or Premier? ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until Friday, the 31 st of May.
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to speak to that? B ermuda House of Assembly MP Jamahl Simmons, you are on your feet pretty quick. I wasn’t sure if you were already up before he said that. Mr . Jamahl S. Simmons: Well, I have been doing my squats, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I think you would like your 20 minutes. [ Laughter] I N SUPPORT OF LINDSAY SIMMONS Mr . Jamahl S. Simmons: Thank you. Mr. Speaker, as we all know in this Chamber and across the Island that on May 22 there will be a very special day for constituency 10, …
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons And the perspective of a woman. And a perspective of a mother. And a perspective of somebody who has advocated against domestic abuse. We could do with more of that in this Chamber, Mr. Speaker. But the humility and character of this individual, Ms. Lindsay Simmons, is one that this …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Simmons. MP Famous. 1264 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly IN SUPPORT OF LINDSAY SIMMONS
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, if ever there was time I wished the House had cameras, today would be it. Mr. Speaker, this is the short version of the résumé of Ms. Lindsay Simmons, former Senator. But I am not here to talk about what is on paper, I am here to talk …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes! That’s true!
Mr. Christopher Famous In more ways than one. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? MP Caines. IN SUPPORT OF LINDSAY SIMMONS
Mr. Wayne Caines Mr. Speaker, I did not anticipate speaking tonight. Something that MP Famous said triggered a whirlwind of emotion and brought back a num-ber of emotions and triggered a number of thoughts that have been swirling in my head as I traversed through my day as I walked. We have a …
Mr. Wayne Caines You need to get up here and make sure we are okay. You need to come and you need to walk around. And guess what? I have to do more. I am responsible for my constituents. And I am privileged, I am humbled. This is the best opportunity that I …
Mr. Wayne Caines I beg pardon? [Inaudible interjection]
Mr. Wayne Caines MP De Silva. [Inaudible interjections and laughter ]
Mr. Wayne Caines Listen. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Wayne Caines Listen. I am . . . I— [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Wayne Caines I . . . I . . . I am speaking from something that I think is deathly important. We are in a country where everybody wants to give credence to their perspective. And I think it is important. But I also think it is important that we all need …
Mr. Wayne Caines Let’s go back again. We are liv ing in a country where we have over 3,000—3,000 is probably a hyperbole. We have over 1,000 people working in international business and in the main their businesses tell their employees that they cannot be involved in the . . . by being …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Would any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? MP Swan. IN SUPPORT OF LINDSAY SIMMONS
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, May 24 will be the holiday that we will celebrate this year and they say the clock will stop on six o’clock twice. So, it is stopping on May 24. My good friend, Minister Weeks, and I always have a good chuckle as to the …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan For good reason. And we have a good chuckle about it. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Last year on the holiday, the Bermuda Day holiday, we were greeted with some of the most inclement weather for a festive occasion that you could ever have imagined. And to the credit of the Minister responsible for (at that time it was Youth, Culture and Sport) now Tourism, Culture …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan So it is a very important holiday for many Bermudians. A lot of younger people probably would not realise that the Bermuda Day holi-day was something that grew out of the actual Pitt Report during the periods when Bermuda had some riots in the 1960s and 1970s and social scientists …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Because at some point in time people have to realise that it is about making a commitment to people. Making a commitment to issues. Being consistent. Not just saying what people want to hear or not just coming up with an argument. Earlier today, not to reflect, it was crystal …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I hear people . . . look. I’ve said it before. I’ve seen, Mr. Speaker, where we have a commission of inquiry. But I know, and I would encourage anybody who wants to really look at history, I mentioned that persons who come to Bermuda from overseas to look …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And did it in a hurry! Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan: And I am here to tell you. And if anyone were to look at the connections, the business connections between contracts up and down this country, starting in St. George’s, go all the way and …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan It’s true. Ask any of those boys up White Hill. I was a fisherman’s grandson. His beloved. Took him through the Town Cut at age three to watch his cousin, Gladwin Lambert, sail for the first time in the Comet Race, unbeknownst to his mother who left him home with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does . . . Opposition Leader. Would you like your 20 minutes? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. IN SUPPORT OF ROBERT KING CANDIDATE FOR CONSTITUENCY 10 Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, Mr. Speaker, as we approach the eve of the bye- election, when the voters of Bermuda will determine who else will sit here amongst us and participate in our debates and engagements when they …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good afternoon. IN SUPPORT OF LINDSAY SIMMONS Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I beg your indulgence so I can read a piece of an article that was fea-tured in today’s newspaper.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Jason Hayward: I quote, “ No person should be allowed to live in poverty while others prosper. No persons should be allowed to exploit other people for economic gain. This disparity affects not only the legitimacy of our democracy, as those with wealth are able to use …
The Speaker The Speaker Provided it is brief. Yes. Hon. Jason Hayward: And it reads, “When we gave minimum wage , we didn’t give it just to Bermudians; we gave it to foreigners, too, and they send their money home,” . . . “That was the dumbest thing I ever heard of . . …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Yes. 1272 17 May 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jason Hayward: And that is why I fully support former Senator Simmons. She has demonstrated that her heart is in the right place. She has demonstrated through her actions that she cares about the youth of our …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister . Does any other — MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker You have 20 minutes.
Mr. Scott Pearman I saw the look in your eye and that you wanted to head home. I apologise.
The Speaker The Speaker Well. IN SUPPORT OF ROBERT KING CANDIDATE FOR CONSTITUENCY 10
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, my, my, my. You get the sense that there is an election coming— and perhaps not just the one on Wednesday. I don’t usually speak on the motion to adjourn, but as the last six or seven people have all been party political broadcasts, I thought I might …
Mr. Christopher Famous Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Speaker, we are a party. Our middle name is Labour. The OBA candidate attacked Bermudian civil servants. We must defend them. Thank you.
Mr. Scott Pearman I am afraid that MP Famous (not for the first time) is mischaracterising events. Anyway, I am not going to go low. I am going to go high. And I am going to go high by just touching on a few points. Some of them have to do with the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP. Does any other —Minister Weeks. IN SUPPORT OF LINDSAY SIMMONS Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, there are two things that are going to be happening, two important events that will be happening before we sit again on the 31 st of …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister, appreciate that. Premier. Yes, you can rise. IN SUPPORT OF LINDSAY SIMMONS Hon. E. David Burt: I am sure, Mr. Speaker, you like to see me when I get up on the motion to adjourn be-cause that typically means it is the end of the sitting. Mr. Speaker, we …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Point of order. Point of order, Mr. Speaker . POINT OF ORDER [Impu ting improper motive]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Unfortunately, the Honourable Member and Premier is imputing improper motive. This is the second time that he has done it as I listened, insinuating that a former Member of ours was handing out turkeys with all this resource, like it was really . . . it was for the needy …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And now he continues on to degrade the OBA on something he knows . . . none of us have been pulled before the courts, if he wants to talk about stuff like that. Come on now. Keep it clean. He is saying he wants to keep it clean. Keep …
The Speaker The Speaker Premier, I know you are skilful enough to not go down the wrong road. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I must have struck a nerve and I don’t even understand how that nerve was struck. Everyone knows that Michael Dunkley handed out turkeys all over his constituency and people …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So do your M embers. Hon. E. David Burt: Okay. Apparently, he is missing the point. So let me try again. When persons over on that side . . . remember, Mr. Speaker, where I was, about focusing on the policies? It is amusing to hear people on that side …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Impu ting improper motive]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Premier for the third time in his speech is imputing an improper motive. Let’s take the high ground please, Mr. Speaker . Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, the Hansard will —
The Speaker The Speaker I am just going to say, I know you are skilful enough— Hon. E. David Burt: Mm-hmm. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker —to carry us past this. We can move past this point now. Hon. E. David Burt: The Hansard will reflect, Mr. Speaker . The Hansard will reflect after they try to revise it and put out something, the Hansard will reflect. But that is the point, Mr. Speaker . The …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, that brings us to the close of today’s proceedings. I thank Members for having a day where we got a lot accomplished and we didn’t have to go late into the night to get that accomplished. As we break this evening for what will be holiday season next week, …
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