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House of Assembly Session 2023/2024 549 speeches

March 8, 2024

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Session Summary

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Ministers presented eight routine update statements covering various government initiatives. The Deputy Premier outlined efforts to support local farming including hiring a consultant agronomist and building a new $500,000 Agriculture Services Centre. The Minister of Public Works announced that UNESCO representatives will visit St. George's later this month to assess the World Heritage Site and review current development projects. Other ministers provided updates on immigration policy changes, the growing FinTech sector, expanded education scholarships, and progress removing abandoned vehicles from streets.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 8, 2024
Session 2023/2024
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Speakers 21
Speeches 549

Key Topics

Updates on local agriculture strategy including support for farmers and new Agriculture Services CentreUNESCO advisory mission to review St. George's World Heritage Site statusImmigration visa controls update removing Colombia and Qatar from restricted listFinTech industry growth with 72 companies now registered in BermudaEducation scholarship program expansion with over $2 million in fundingCampaign to remove abandoned vehicles from public roads

Bills & Motions

No bills were debated or voted on in this sitting. Several regulatory orders were tabled for information, including:
Bermuda Immigration and Protection (Prohibition of Entry) Order 2024
Merchant Shipping (Fees) Amendment Regulations 2024

Notable Moments

First mention of potential concerns from UNESCO about development in St. George's historic town, prompting the invited advisory mission
Significant growth reported in FinTech employment - from 16 people in 2021 to 35 in 2023, with 20 being Bermudian
Education Ministry announced new scholarships specifically encouraging men to enter teaching profession

Debate Transcript

549 speeches from 21 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. The next paper is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister. MERCHANT SHIPPING (FEES) AMENDMENT REGULATIONS 2024 Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker and everyone. Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. That brings us to a close of all of the Papers and Communications. We will move on. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker Members, this morning there are eight such Statements. The first is in the name of the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier, would you like to present your Statement at this time? Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. PROGRESS ON THE INTEGRATED AGRICULTURE STRATEGY Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good morning to the House and members of the public. And of course, Happy In-ternational Women’s Day. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to update this Honourable House on the Integrated Agriculture strategy of the Ministry of Home Affairs …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Good morning, Mr. Speaker. UNESCO ADVISORY MISSION TO THE HISTORIC TOWN OF ST. GEORGE’S AND RELATED FORTIFICATIONS
Lt. Co l. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning to announce that the Government of Bermuda has invited the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organi sation ( mor e commonly known as UNESCO ) for an advisory mission to our World Heritage Site, the Historic Town of St. George’s , and related …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister. UPDATES TO THE BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION (PROHIBITION OF ENTRY) ORDER—BERMUDA’S VISA CONTROLLED NATIONALS LIST Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I rise before this Hono urable House to provide …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister, while you are on your feet, I believe you have a second Statement. Yes. FINTECH IN BERMUDA, A YEAR IN REVIEW Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker and Honourable Members, I rise again today to update this Honourable House on Bermuda’ s journey and achievements in the …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Education. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 2024 SCHOLARSHIPS AND AWARDS UPDATE Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, I stand before you to share an inspiring journey —a …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Transport. Minister. UPDATE ON TACKLING ABANDONED VEHICLES Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Good morning, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to my colleagues, and good morning to the radio listeners. Mr. Speaker, I stand here …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Before I call the next Minister, I am going to ask the Deputy [Speaker] to come forward. But the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Youth, Social Development and Seniors. Minister. [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Deputy Speaker, in the Chair] …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister. Minister, do you have another Statement? MIRRORS PROGRAMME —2024 “TRANSFORM YOUR PERSPECTIVE” WORLD SUMMIT Hon. Tinee Furbert: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker , I rise today to share with this Honourable House and my colleagues an overview of the 2024 “ Transform Your …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Minister Tinee Furbert. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker There appear to be none. QUESTION PERIOD PREMIER’S QUESTIONS
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker This is 30 minutes. Let me remind you of the guidelines, one of them: “A question to the Premier shall be asked without argument or opinion and shall not address more than one matter of general government policy.” Opposition Leader. QUESTION 1: CARICOM MEMBERSHIP Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you, Premier. Next question. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, supplemental to that, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Is the Government open to a referendum during this full consultation process? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am not going to prejudge the consultative process. And I think the Honourable Opposition …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Another question? QUESTION 1: CYBERATTACK Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. My second question is relating to the cyberattack again. We note that a comment from the Deputy Premier in relation to the cyberattack struck at the very heart of the public service …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Second supplementary? A supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: No. Well, the question was not—
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Honourable Member, it is either a question or a supplementary. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Well, thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, on the clarification that I cannot proceed unless it is a supplementary. I will move to the next question.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. Continue. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. With your permission, can I read from the Standing Orders? I need to provide some context for this question.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Ask your question, sir. This is Question/Answer. Is it a question to the Premier? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I will — [Inaudible interjection]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That is right. This is Question Period to the Premier. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am not arguing. I am clarifying.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker If you have a question to the Premier, then ask it. QUESTION 1: UPDATED REGISTER OF MEMBERS' INTEREST Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. I will not provide the context. My question is that the Progressive Labour Party MPs' declarations are quite dated, with the Premier’s last made nearly 10 years …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: So one thing I can tell, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that I know that my last update is not 10 years ago. And if that is the case, it is on the website. Because I know that I had those things updated when …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Opposition Leader, any supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, definitely. We have been trying to convene that committee of the House that he is referring to for some time. Would the Honourable Premier . . . 904 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Actually, no. I am …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. The next speaker is Kim Swan. You have a question for the Premier? [Inaudible interjection]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker He is not here? Opposition Whip. QUESTION 1: LOW INTEREST MORTGAGE RATE
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Deputy Speaker. During yesterday’s press conference, the Premier mentioned lower interest rates with the banks. I received a few calls this morning. They were confused. So does this lower interest rate apply just to the contractors within the EEZ? Or does this, or will t his allow someone …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Member, you have two supplementaries also if you care to use them. [Inaudible interjection]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. The next Member is MP Tyrrell. QUESTION 1: FREEZE ON HEALTH INSURANCE RATES
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I note in the Budget Statement that the Honourable Premier announced the plan to freeze health insurance rates for the third year in a row. That measure has been welcomed on the doorstep by my constituents. But some constituents still have questions. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I thank the Honourable Member for his question. And it is an important one, because as we canvass, people do have questions surrounding this particular issue. So here is what I can say. I can say for those persons who are either …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Supplementary, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I thank the Premier and appreciate the answer that he has given. Could the Honourable Premier please reiterate the savings that policyholders will see thanks to the Government’s actions, and break those costs down to what the monthly and yearly increase would have been with the …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Tyrrell, you have one more supplementary.
Mr. Neville S. Tyrrell Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I will hold my supplementary. But I thank the Premier for those fulsome answers. Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. The next one is MP Ben Smith. QUESTION 1: BTA GRANT REDUCTION FOR SPORTS EVENTS
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, and good morning, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Would the Honourable Premier be able to let us know whether he has been made aware of any sporting, international sports tourism events that might be impacted negatively by the Bermuda Tourism Authority’s grant being reduced for the upcoming year? Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: I have not been made aware that there is anything that might be affected. But as the for-mer Minister of Tourism and certainly the current Minister of Tourism, I know that there is a degree of operational independence that the Bermuda Tourism Authority has . …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker MP Smith, you have two supplementaries. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Ben Smith Yes. Would the Honourable Premier let us know that if he does become aware that this is impacting our having specific events whether he would go back to looking whether we should increase the grant in order that we do not lose these events? Hon. E. David Burt: Here is …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Smith, do you have another? That is it. The next speaker is Mr. Lawrence Scott. QUESTION 1: ROAD REPAIRS
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott Good morning, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, on the doorstep I hear a lot of repeated concerns on the state of our roads. Can the Honourable Premier please share with this Honourable House what the Government is doing to improve the state of our roads? Hon. E. David Burt: …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Thank you. Mr. Scott, do you have any supplementary?
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott I do have one supplementary if you allow, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. W. Lawrence Scott First of all , I want to thank the Premier for his answer. But something else that is also raised on the doorstep is about the overgrowth on the roadsides. Can the Premier please advise what the Government is doing in regard to this issue? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker The next speaker is Mr. Pearman. QUESTION 1: CONTRACT WITH ONYX LIMITED
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Premier, in May 2023 the Attorney General’s Chambers entered into a contract with the Attorney General’s husband’s company, Onyx Limited, to pro-vide legal services to the Bermuda Government. Were you personally aware of that contract? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I do believe that …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Continue. SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Were you personally aware of the contract? Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I have answered the question already, and I am not going to repeat what I have said on this particular matter. This matter has been canvassed repeatedly, and I know the Honourable Member is trying to …
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Premier, when is it you say that you answered the question whether or not you were aware of the contract?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Hang on a minute. I want to remind you of the Standing Orders. I think it is 908 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly 17(5)(d) [sic] and 17(9) [sic]. Because I am reading that you are kind of getting personal, and we are not supposed to …
Mr. Scott Pearman Are you not permitting me to ask this question, Mr. Deputy Speaker?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Pearman, did you hear what I said?
Mr. Scott Pearman I will be guided by you. What is your direction?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker [Standing Order] 19(11)(d) and (f), right?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker If you want me to read it to you, I will. [Inaudible interjections]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker It says [at Standing Order 19(11)(d)], “ It shall be out of order to use offensive and insulting . . .” It is not that one. But [Standing Order 19(11)](f) says, “ No Member shall impute improper motives to any Member of the House or indulge in personalities, except on …
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am asking whether or not the Premier of our country was aware of a government contract. That is a perfectly legitimate question. It does not impute an improper motive.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Deputy Speaker, the contract was handled through the traditional government contracting method that was done via contracting for legal services. The one thing that is important to note is that I can confirm, like when I was asked this question in the last …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You don’t need any further explanation. Hon. E. David Burt: No. I have got it. —where the OBA’s people went online and say that it requires the approval of the Attorney General. The Attorney General certainly recused herself from this particular issue and it was handled by public offic-ers. Because …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker I am satisfied, Mr. Premier. The next speaker is Mr. Wade.
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary?
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker You had two, I think, Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman That was my first supplementary. [Inaudible interjections]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker No. You had two supplementaries. Yes. Mr. Wade. QUESTION 1: ELIMINATION OF CUSTOM DUTY FOR STAPLE GOODS
Mr. Jason Wade Thank you, Mr. [Deputy] Speaker. Mr. [Deputy] Speaker, the Cost of Living Commission eliminated duty on 35 staple goods. The Throne Speech said that the list would be expanded upon. Could the Honourable Premier please advise, where does this promise stand? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Mr. Wade, any supplementary? The next speaker is MP Jackson. You have the floor. Bermuda House of Assembly QUESTION 1: MIDDLE EAST CONSULTANT CONTRACT
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I was not expecting to have time. So my question is very quick. Is the Premier renewing the Middle East consultant Alexia Hefti’s one- year contract at $20,000 a month? Hon. E. David Burt: So I am not going to speak to what the negotiations …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Ms. Jackson, you have time for a supplementary.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No, Deputy Speaker. I look forward to the deliverables. Thank you.
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Okay. MP Famous, you may not be able to finish. You may be able to get up and get down.
Mr. Christopher Famous Mr. Deputy Speaker — [Timer chimes]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker That it is, Mr. Famous.
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Aww! [Laughter]
Mr. Christopher Famous Happy International Women’s Day, everybody! [Laughter] QUESTION PERIOD
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Now we have the Question Period on Statements. And there are no questions for the Deputy Premier nor for the Minister of Public Works. We have one from the Opposition Leader to Minister Hayward on the Bermuda Immigration and Protection. [Inaudible interjection]
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. QUESTION 1: UPDATES TO THE BERMUDA IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION (PROHIBITION OF ENTRY) ORDER —BERMUDA’S VISA CONTROLLED NATIONALS LIST Hon. Jarion Richardson: My apologies, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am sorry. This is a question as it relates to Honourable Minister Hayward’s Statement on the Bermuda Visa Controlled Nationals list. I …
The Deputy Speaker Deputy Speaker Yes. Go ahead. Hon. Jarion Richardson: Thank you. On page 2 the Honourable Minister outlined the Prohibition Order of 2023, the purpose of the Pro-hibition Order, where he says, “ This Order ensures that security and vetting takes place prior to an individual arriving in Bermuda and that tourist visitors …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Opposition Leader. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, we are well aware of the process. What typically takes place is [where] a work permit is submitted and the individual requires a visa and the visa is contingent on the work permit, we grant the work permit and then …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: None. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Honourable Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question? Hon. Jarion Richardson: None. Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister, that was the only question for you on that Statement. However, your second Statement also has questions. And again, they are from the Opposition Leader. Opposition Leader, would you like to put your question? QUESTION 1: FINTECH IN BERMUDA, A YEAR IN REVIEW Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jarion Richardson: The Minister said, “These initiatives” (referring to the Digital Asset Business [Act], or DABA, or the Innovative Insurer General Business licence) “ have laid a solid foundation for well -regulated companies to join and strengthen Bermuda’s FinTech ecosystem. ” My question is to the Honourable Minister, …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I believe the Opposition Leader is clear on what is outstanding because he was able to articulate what is outstanding. But what I would articulate is the process which we are currently engaged in. And so there are two separate processes going on: 1. …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: None. Second question, please, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Second question. Yes. QUESTION 2: FINTECH IN BERMUDA, A YEAR IN REVIEW Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Honourable Minister . . . may I read from page 2?
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Jarion Richardson: The Honourable Minister said, Mr. Speaker, “ Bermuda’s FinTech vision includes attracting top- tier companies and investors, creating job opportunities for Bermudians . . .”. My question relates to these job opportunities for Bermudians. This sector requires a number of different kinds of people to …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. Jarion Richardson: “As recently as 2023, preliminary numbers provided by the Department of Sta-tistics list total employment in FinTech to be 35 per-sons, of which 20 were Bermudians or Spouses of Bermudians. ” My question to the Minister is, What are the roles that those Bermudians have …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. [Crosstalk and laughter ] Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I do not have that information readily available. I will seek to endeavour to see how detailed I can get that information. The information is normally submitted to the Department of Statistics in occupational categories. I am not sure if …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary? Second supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes. Thank you. I have a third question.
The Speaker The Speaker Third question. QUESTION 3: FINTECH IN BERMUDA, A YEAR IN REVIEW Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please. Can I . . . The Honourable Minister, on page 2 . . . may I read?
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Jarion Richardson: “This training and educational effort includes . . .” [The Honourable Minister] speaks to training opportunities provided by the Government as it relates to the FinTech industry. My question to the Honourable Minister would be, Can he please provide guidance as to how the public can …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: All training that is issued by the Economic Development Department in relation to FinTech is publicly advertised. And we go through a process where we advertise the opportunities for training and we will continue to do so. And so as training arises, we wil l advertise …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: Yes, please. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker First supplementary. SUPPLEMENTARY Hon. Jarion Richardson: How many students of the current training programme or programmes have now been placed in industry? Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, we went through the employment numbers earlier, and we recognised that we have 20 Bermudians working in the FinTech sector under DABA and the IIGB licensed companies. 912 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly That does not comprise our entire …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Second supplementary? Hon. Jarion Richardson: That is it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Minister, that is the last of the questions for you this morning. However, Members, there is one other Statement for which questions have been indicated. And that is for the Minister of Transport. MP Pearman has a question for you. MP. QUESTION 1: UPDATE ON TACKLING ABANDONED VEHICLES
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Minister Furbert, for your Statement this morning to the House stating that you were going to take deci-sive action on collecting the abandoned vehicles. My first question is, notwithstanding having heard your Statement, How is this supposed to work? So more specifically, who should …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Thank you. The information is in the Statement, Mr. Speaker. But we did say a call to TCD.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, supplementary. In terms of calling TCD, before you can take the bikes out to the dump, one of the requirements is to drain the oil from them. Because they will not take them at the dump if there is oil in them. Who will be draining the vehicles? [Laughter]
Mr. Scott Pearman Because again in this particular instance, we were told the person at TCD was no longer draining vehicles. Is that still the case? Or has that been corrected?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Mr. Speaker, I do not get into the nitty -gritty of this type of information. But that is being handled. If the Honourable Member wants to speak to me later, I can try to find out that information for him.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. Still on this issue on how it is going to work.
Mr. Scott Pearman The way it used to work was a seven- day notice would be attached to the bike or car by the police. And you called the police, and they would do that. You referenced now 14 days. Is there a policy reason for that change from 7 to 14? And …
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: It is quite simple, Mr. Speaker. We are just being a little more compassionate. It has been our understanding that sometimes those vehicles have been there for quite some time. But we are just trying to work with individuals. As you know, as I said …
Mr. Scott Pearman Supplementary?
The Speaker The Speaker No, no. You had your —
Mr. Scott Pearman I am sorry. Bermuda House of Assembly The Speaker: Second question now. QUESTION 2: UPDATE ON TACKLING ABANDONED VEHICLES
Mr. Scott Pearman Second question; quite right. Still on the same area, but second question. Again, on removal and the notice. Would it not make more sense that if someone has abandoned a bike, after seven days we would want to get it off of the road rather than leaving it for another …
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes. I suppose we would say we are more efficient. We actually get the problem dealt with in time. Yes. (There is a supplementary to my right, Mr. Speaker.)
The Speaker The Speaker Oh. MP Jackson, you have a supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question to the Minister is, I am wondering, has the Ministry or the Department of Transport thought about taking a review of the process around abandoned vehicles to make it either more efficient — [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Well, I mean, actually really review it. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Clearly no one has. Hon. Wayne L. Furbert: Yes. The Honourable Member is not clear on what she actually means. But we actually have taken the action. We have reviewed the process. And so if the Honourable Member would be more clear, maybe I could answer her question. I do …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Or third question for —
Mr. Scott Pearman I believe I have a second supplementary on my second question, do I not?
The Speaker The Speaker You have a second supplementary.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, thank you. Just checking.
The Speaker The Speaker So we are still on that second question.
Mr. Scott Pearman Still on that second question.
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. SUPPLEMENTARY
Mr. Scott Pearman Honourable Minister, in relation to these notices, the position will now be then the notice goes on, and in 14 days [the vehicle] is gone. Is that right? [No audible response]
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you. (He answered yes.) QUESTION 3: UPDATE ON TACKLING ABANDONED VEHICLES
Mr. Scott Pearman And third question: Does the Honourable Minister have a sense of why we are seeing the increase in these abandoned vehicles? You mentioned that there are now two or three calls a day. It is obvious from just seeing around the Island there are more. Do you have a sense …
Mr. Scott Pearman I will let that slide. I will let that slide.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Shots fired.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, shots fired indeed, indeed. [Laughter] SUPPLEMENTARIES
Mr. Scott Pearman But on a serious note, Minister, there are clearly more. And you have said that this morning in your Statement. My understanding, at least again in a particular incident that I had to deal with, is that people are driving these bikes unlicensed. And if they get in an accident, …
The Speaker The Speaker Second supplementary?
Mr. Scott Pearman Second supplementary. And in terms of the licensing connection . . . Sorry. I will wait until the Minister is ready. (Sorry, Minister. When you are ready. Second supplementary on the last question, so you are almost done.) But in terms of the abandoned vehicles, are you finding there is …
Mr. Scott Pearman That answered the question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Minister.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Members. There are no further questions this morning. Thank you for your participation. And we will move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any — [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker I had not even had a chance to finish, and everybody is jumping up this morning. Premier, I will take you in your purple tie first this morning. How is that? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that. And in the space of the …
The Speaker The Speaker Go ahead. Hon. E. David Burt: Because I know that congrats and obits is to ask the House to send a letter. And so what I will ask is the House to send a letter to the Woman of the Year who has just been awarded this morning. She is …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Mr. Premier. Does any other Member? MP Caines.
Mr. Wayne Caines Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Wayne Caines I would like to acknowledge I heard some accolades being given to some, first for the women in government. And I noticed a glaring omission. And I would like to acknowledge the first female Senior Magistrate in Bermuda, the Worshipful Maxanne Anderson. [Desk thumping]
Mr. Wayne Caines I would like to declare my interest.
The Speaker The Speaker Ah, ah, ah! I was waiting for you if you were going to declare that. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Wayne Caines: I would like to declare my interest. I have a close family relationship with the Senior Magistrate.
The Speaker The Speaker Very close.
Mr. Wayne Caines The Senior Magistrate is responsible for a number of our courts. The Senior Magistrate is most committed to some of our treatment courts which include and are not limited to the Drug Treatment Court and the Mental Health Court, the Probation Court and the newly formed Juvenile Court that will …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, MP Caines. MP Lister, would you like to make a contribution?
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Dennis Lister III I would like to start off just in the words of Tupac, “And since we all came from a woman Got our name from a woman and our game from a woman . . .” Mr. Speaker, in recognition of International Women’s Day, it has been mentioned, but I would …
Mr. Dennis Lister III And again, Mr. Speaker, just remember that that would be your mother, your grandmother. You might have a daughter, nieces . Whoever they are, Mr. Speaker, they are all women. And we should all recognise them today on this International Women’s Day. And, Mr. Speaker, in the spirit of International …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Okay, there are a few [others]; I stand corrected.
Mr. Dennis Lister III But I would like to congratulate her on signing that contract and that she will represent Bermuda well. And again as a young woman, we wish her a lot. She is young, 22. She has a long career ahead of her, so we wish her the best in that career. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member — Mr. Caines, do you want to make a second one? Oh, okay. Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again in honour of International Women’s Day, I would like congratulations sent to a daughter of the soil, …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other — Minister Weeks. You have your three minutes, sir. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. I could not let this opportunity go by to associate myself with some of the remarks for International Women’s Day. For all of the remarks of my …
The Speaker The Speaker I think we have a very close person next to you sitting in the Chamber today. [Crosstalk] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Well, exactly. That is why I am up on my feet, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker All right. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Because without getting up on my feet, I would run into trouble later on in the day. [Laughter] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: So while we are congratulating women on International Women’s Day, I want this Honourable House to make note and take note that …
The Speaker The Speaker Yes. Hon. Michael A. Weeks: They are three educators. And they are here to support the Minister in his speech, in his presentation today. One of the ladies in particular, Mr. Speaker, I am related to her, closely related to her.
The Speaker The Speaker You can’t see but I’ll tell you she is smiling all over the place right now. [Crosstalk] Hon. Michael A. Weeks: Yes, she is, she is. And I want to wish her and her colleagues a happy International Women’s Day. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? Minister Burch.
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Mr. Speaker, good morning again. I would like to be associated with the congratulations being extended to the AME Church on their anniversary and conference. I would also like to be associated with the condolences going to the Fisher family. MP Caines (who has left the Chamber) mentioned that they …
Lt. Col. Hon. David A. Burch Well, they might have been from Parsons Road when they had issues with the Privy Council and the Supreme Court. But they presently reside in Cedar Hill, Warwick, constituency 27, Mr. Speaker. And it is one of the few houses that when I canvass we usually had a conversation about …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? None other. We will move on. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
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The Speaker The Speaker There are two Bills to be introduced this morning by the Minister of Finance/Premier. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning again, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. FIRST READINGS PAYROLL TAX AMENDMENT ACT 2024 GOVERNMENT LOANS AMENDMENT ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bills for first reading, which according to section 36(3)(a)(i) of the Bermuda Constitution require the Governor’s recommendation, so that they may be placed on the …
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The Speaker The Speaker That takes us now, Members and listening audience, to the resumption of the annual Budget Debate. This morning the first item up will be the Ministry of Education, which will have five hours; and the remaining three hours is for the non- ministries later t oday, a total of eight …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now resume in Committee of Supply to consider the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for fiscal year 2024/25.
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? None. Deputy. House in Committee at 12:08 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024/25
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. And we will be doing [the Ministry of] Education this morning, Heads 16, 17, 18 and 41. This is a five-hour debate. And it will be headed …
The Chairman Chairman Continue, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to present the budget of the Ministry of Education which comprises the Ministry of Education Headquarters, Head 16; the Department of Education, Head17; the Department of Libraries and Archives, Head 18; and the Bermuda College Head 41. Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, may I interrupt you? If you can mark that and move that we adjourn for lunch. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Chairman, I move that we adjourn for lunch.
The Chairman Chairman We adjourn to two o’clock. Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:30 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2:01 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Sr., Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2024/25 MINISTRY OF EDUCATION HEAD 17 —DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION [Continuation thereof]
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon, Members. We have resumed the Budget Debate on the Ministry of Education, Head 16, 17, 18 and 41. This debate is for five hours. And it is being led by the Honourable Minister Rabain. Minister Rabain, you have the floor. Programme 1701, Central Administration Hon. Diallo V. S. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Are there any further speakers? The Shadow Minister for Education, MP Ben Smith, will make comments and ask questions. Mr. Smith, you have the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, I would like to thank the Minister for his brief today and for giving the opportunity to ask questions and receive answers on this important Ministry. Mr. Chairman, I will start on Head 16, Ministry of Education, page B -132.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Ben Smith In the past we were told that the General Administration, there was a much larger budget for this under cost centre 26000. A lot of that had been moved to the Reform Unit. But if the Minister could just give us a little bit more detail on what exactly happened …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. If you do not mind it . . . Continue. POINT OF CLARIFICATION Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: If the Member would be minded to look at the Ministerial Statement I gave this morning on scholarships, I mentioned how many applications we got and how many awards we gave …
The Chairman Chairman Well, let the Member finish his questions and then you can give the answers.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, would the Minister be able to give us a breakdown whether there are students who graduate from private schools who will apply for some Bermuda House of Assembly of the scholarships that are provided by the government, and the breakdown of the difference between …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Chairman, it is difficult because there seem to be people who are being taken from dif-ferent parts of . . . In order to get the education reform, they are coming from different areas. So can the Minister provide how many teachers who would normally be in a classroom …
The Chairman Chairman Member, if you can just cite the business unit when you ask the questions, it will make it easier for us to follow.
Mr. Ben Smith Yes. I am sorry, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Ben Smith I am still under business unit 26140, Education Reform Unit.
The Chairman Chairman Two-six—
Mr. Ben Smith One- four-o.
The Chairman Chairman What page? Okay. I see. Page B -133.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. There you go. Thank you.
Mr. Ben Smith Sorry about that, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman No problem.
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Chairman, as we are going through the reform, obviously at some point we will be at the maximum needed of the members of the Reform Unit. But as we get able to move toward implementation, can the Minister let us know whether there will be a reduct ion …
The Chairman Chairman Let me just remind you, Member, that a lot of information you are asking for has been in the public domain. And the Minister will deal with it accordingly.
Mr. Ben Smith Yes, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, Mr. Chairman, as we are going through this reform process, it would be important to know how we are doing as we are going through. So the members of the Reform Committee, is there a way of doing appraisals each year so …
The Chairman Chairman You know, MP Smith, a lot of these questions you are asking have natural answers. As you would know, whoever is in Government, there is criteria, there are specifications one must have in order to sit on these boards, right? Some things that I just think . . . some …
Mr. Ben Smith Yes. And, Mr. Chairman, I am not saying that anybody would be picked willy -nilly. I am asking for, as an example, if role number one was something specific, what were the criteria for that particular role? And then if that role was specific, was it advert ised for that …
The Chairman Chairman The Board of Education, I think they are consistent when they advertise for a teacher. There is a requirement. I do not think they can shoot that down, you know. Those have got to be requirements. Anyhow, continue.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, on page B -134—
The Chairman Chairman One- three- four. Continue.
Mr. Ben Smith Professional Services.
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm.
Mr. Ben Smith The Minister noted that there had been a reduction in Professional Services. Can he just give us a breakdown of what services have changed in order to get to that reduction? And, Mr. Chairman, the contract for the Innovation Unit was renewed for another year. Can the Minister give details …
The Chairman Chairman Where are you, Member? Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Ben Smith: Still under Professional Services.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Go ahead.
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Chairman, unless the Professional Services are going to come under another area. But I believe that part of the funding was coming from this area. So what deliverables were put in place for the Innovation Unit for the previous year that led to our renewing that contract? And …
Mr. Ben Smith Business unit 26000. So these are the performance measures. And this is under General Administration.
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mr. Ben Smith So, Consultation with key stakeholders. Can the Minister please give details on how the consultation was done with the teachers? Are there continuous meetings with the teachers to get input? The reason I ask that question is because the Minister stated th at there has been communication with the union …
The Chairman Chairman When you say “obviously” — [Crosstalk]
Mr. Ben Smith Well, I apologise.
The Chairman Chairman You have got to have some factual stuff.
Mr. Ben Smith Yes. Yes.
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mr. Ben Smith So in the public domain there has been some outcry from these two schools. If the Minister can just give us just a quick update on whether he has had some new meetings with them to kind of let them know that this process is happening and that he will …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Continue.
Mr. Ben Smith On page B -137.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. 936 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Ben Smith: Starting on business unit 27001, Office of the Commissioner. Would it be possible for the Minister to give us an update on the relationship that the Office of the Commissioner is now having with the …
The Chairman Chairman This is budget, you know. That is not an appropriate question. This is budget. That is not something I would even recommend that the Minister even consider at this point. If you are talking about numbers, fine.
The Chairman Chairman But that, I think, is inappropriate.
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Chairman, business unit 27090, Educational Standards and Account.
The Chairman Chairman Two-seven?
Mr. Ben Smith Business unit 27090.
The Chairman Chairman Oh, okay. [Two], seventy, ninety. Yes, I got you.
Mr. Ben Smith So the Minister can correct me if I am wrong here. I believe that the School Attendance, which is business unit 27095, below there I believe that that was moved into this area. That is why that line is now zero. Can the Minister please provide data on the attendance …
Mr. Ben Smith So the Minister actually gave an answer that answered some of the issue that was seen here. I had been given quite a bit of feedback about what had happened in the last two budget cycles because there was a significant increase for the money toward substi tute teachers. And …
The Chairman Chairman So you want to know why the reduction in the cost? Mr. Ben Smith: No. I believe the Minister has answered that part. [Crosstalk ]
Mr. Ben Smith So now I am moving into what has happened with substitute teachers, [which] is the demand that came for substitute teachers would have been, one, because there were teachers who were out of class because they were in the [Reform] Unit. But there potential ly are other reasons why we …
The Chairman Chairman Okay.
Mr. Ben Smith Is the Minister able to give us any data that they have been able to collect when it comes to long-term absenteeism for teachers, whether there are teachers who have been missing for . . . We do know that there are some teachers who have been out on unpaid …
The Chairman Chairman We are doing budgets here. We are doing budgets. It is about numbers, dollars and cents.
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Chairman, the issue would have been that we had to increase that number signifi-cantly in order to pay for a large number of substitute teachers.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Mm -hmm. I think the question is, Why has it decreased or increased? And let him explain it.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman I think that is the appropriate question.
Mr. Ben Smith One second, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Take your time. [Pause] Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Ben Smith: Mr. Chairman, cost centre 27061, Behaviour Management. So I note that there had been a reduction in the budget for Behaviour Management for last year’s budget. And now there is an increase. Can the Minister give us an …
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Chairman, business unit 27062, Success Academy. The Minister gave quite a bit of detail on what was being provided from Success Academy. But the budget number is only $8,000. So I am just wondering, is funding coming from somewhere else in order to ac hieve all of those things? …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Ben Smith It covers all of it. Mr. Chairman, business unit 27063 [School Psychology].
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Chairman, considering that the Minister stated that there had been quite a bit of need for these services, I am just wondering if the Minister can explain to us why we would have a slight reduction as opposed to . . . The importance of this, I would …
The Chairman Chairman I thought he covered it. But go ahead.
Mr. Ben Smith So, Mr. Chairman, business units 27065 Hearing, and 27066 Vision.
Mr. Ben Smith The Minister gave us some details on both of these. Can the Minister just let the listening audience know, Is this performed in multiple schools? Or are they going to a specific school? Just so that we un-derstand, you know, are these individuals going to support multiple places? Or are …
Mr. Ben Smith Cost centre 27074, Learning Support.
Mr. Ben Smith The Minister stated that there seemed to be the need for more learning support. I believe he said that by looking at the numbers that they are getting from preschool. Can the Minister give us . . . is it a percentage? Can he give us some kind of idea …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. [Pause]
Mr. Ben Smith Cost centre 27079, Paraprofessionals. This is a significant support system within education presently. Could the Minister just give us some details on whether there will be a shift in the need for paraprofessionals as we move forward? The reason I ask that question is because, if not, as we move …
The Chairman Chairman I think you would know. We would hope that we would be decreasing it. So that is not something that I think you would know until somebody is diagnosed on and whatever. That is a difficult one. It could go either way. Just one second, Brother Smith. Panel of Chairs, …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Members. We are in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. And we are in the middle of a five- hour (I believe) Education debate. We have heard at some length from the Minister, the Honourable …
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am on page B -137, now moving to programme 1703, Finance and Corporate.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much.
Mr. Ben Smith Business unit 27041, School Transport. The Minister spoke to some of the costs that are being incurred in order for this Transport number. Can the Minister let us know whether there had been any thoughts of also using transportation in order for the Bermu da School Sports Federation in order …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, 138 and 139. Yes.
Mr. Ben Smith Which is going to cover programmes 1704, Preschools; 1705, Primary Schools; 1707, Middle Schools; and 1708, Senior Secondary Schools. So, on these pages we are given the overall costs for each of these facilities. And the Minister stated that . . . I believe he said 94 per cent of …
Mr. Ben Smith So the Minister has just stated that this was only for preschools. Could he let us know what that breakdown is in the other categories?
The Chairman Chairman That was preschool?
Mr. Ben Smith Yes, the 94 per cent was only preschools. So I am asking the Minister if he can give us what that percentage is for the other levels of school. And considering that one of the factors that we are looking at when it comes to closing schools is going to …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Member, 140.
Mr. Ben Smith Could the Minister let us know whether —
The Chairman Chairman Page 141, actually, the Employee Numbers I think it is. Yes. But we have it. [Pause]
Mr. Ben Smith I am sorry. I was looking under Salaries, and I was just going to speak to . . . That is why I was on page B -140. I was going to—
The Chairman Chairman Yes. I see Salaries in the top box under Expenditure, yes. [Crosstalk]
Mr. Ben Smith That covers the employment of the teachers. So the question to the Minister is, Can the Minister let us know whether there are any teachers and/or principals who are holding the acting position? And if they are holding the acting position, is there a difference in the salary they receive …
The Chairman Chairman At the top of page B -143?
Mr. Ben Smith Correct. It states, Percentage of performance appraisals completed for school and Department of Education staff. And it was discontinued. Can the Minister let us know where I can find where that information would be now, considering that seems to be an important performance measure for us to know whether there …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, 143.
Mr. Ben Smith Programme 1702, Student Services. It states under psychoeducational assessments that 90 per cent were completed. What was the outcome of the assessments? Were 90 per cent of the cases dealt with satisfactorily? And what is the process for us to get to 100 per cent? Programme 1703, Finance and Corporate …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. B -144.
Mr. Ben Smith This is [programme] 1705, Primary Schools.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, I see that near the top.
Mr. Ben Smith There is a measure that shows the targets for improvement in math, reading and writing. Can the Minister please provide us details on what happens when these improvements are not met? What is the level that these assessments are being compared to? And wha t are we doing when we …
The Chairman Chairman That is the top line under [programme] 1708 on page B -145?
Mr. Ben Smith Yes, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Ben Smith [It states] Students gaining college acceptance. Can the Minister please explain what is expected to get to the acceptance level, and is this for entry into Bermuda College or international colleges and universities? The original forecast was for 85 per cent for 2023/24 but was revised to 60 per cent. …
Mr. Ben Smith One second, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. For the benefit of Members and members of the listening public, we are in the Committee of Supply for Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the coming budget year 2024/25. This is a five- hour debate on the Ministry of Education which will include and has …
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Chairman, [on page B -145,] “Students passing Advance Placement exams with a score of 3 or higher,” the target is 80 per cent. Can the Minister provide us with what percentage of students take these Advance Placement exams? On page B -146 . . . The Chairman: Yes, page …
Mr. Ben Smith [It states] 92 per cent of students pass with a Bermuda school diploma. Can the Minister please give us an indication of what assessment is done to receive the Bermuda school diploma and what is that . . . what does that certificate give them access to? Does that allow …
Mr. Ben Smith Mr. Chairman, those are my questions for now. I’ll let the Minister begin some of his answers.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. Minister, you have had a series of questions in relation to Head 17 from the Shadow Minister. Minister, you have the floor. It is the Minister, the Honourable Diallo Rabain. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, without embellishing too much, I …
The Chairman Chairman You have ample time, Minister. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Ample time. I do want to start with the last one, the question asked about the Ber-muda school diploma. Mr. Chairman, there is a graduation requirement in order to earn the Bermuda school diploma. It is the graduation certificate that …
The Chairman Chairman They have disappeared have they, Minister? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Every single one of them has completely disappeared.
The Chairman Chairman All right. While you are finding those answers, Minister, we will do a plug for the Parliament (shall we?) for a moment and tell the listening public what they are listening to at the moment. Which is of course the Committee of Supply for the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure, …
The Chairman Chairman No problem. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —they are figuring out —
The Chairman Chairman We’ll bowl a few overs until the reserves come in. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —what is —
The Chairman Chairman And again, for the benefit of the listening public the Minister is supported by the professional civil servants who would obviously have some of those answers at their fingertips to assist. So Minister, you have the floor. And I appreciate you may not follow in the same order as the …
The Chairman Chairman To be fair, Minister, some of the questions are being asked for the benefit of the public even if the person posing the question knows the answer already. Right? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I do know that and a lot of our public already do know the [answers] because …
The Chairman Chairman Indeed. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And they do get that. But I do want to begin with the scholarship. The question was, How many scholarships are awarded? That was actually something that was given in my Ministerial Statement this morning, so I would just grab the Ministerial Statement and …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And whatever funds retain, we call people up and say, We’ve got money for you. And we send it out. So we have the initial group that we issue, and have the official ceremony and everything, but there are always students who come after …
The Chairman Chairman Well, I’ll tell you what, while — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: No, no, no, I am—
The Chairman Chairman —you are fighting with your document, Minister — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: I’m still answering the question.
The Chairman Chairman I am just going to recognise that we have one of your Senators in the Gallery. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN HOUSE VISITOR
The Chairman Chairman So I am just going to recognise formally Senator Lindsay Simmons from the other place who is here with us today. So welcome, Senator. [Committee of Supply, continuing]
The Chairman Chairman Minister, when you are ready you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay. Apparently they have sent me another document which I am requesting access to. The question was about the Education Authority and the Education Authority . . . the intention is to submit the legislation this …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, thank you. Page B -137. Yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And the next question I have here is, Why do we need substitute teachers? The answer is provided in the brief on page 22. So I will flip to page 22 of the brief and see what they …
The Chairman Chairman Modern technology. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes. Let’s see if I am able to get in now. Ah! I am in there! [Inaudible interjections and laughter ] Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay. Now let me catch up. (What question was I on? Question 35.)
The Chairman Chairman Of 59, I believe you said there were in total. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay. What is the increase needed for learning support? It says, increase to fund teachers and programmes for the increase of the number of students with special needs. You would have heard me say in …
The Chairman Chairman I think the question, Minister, if I recall, was that he had taken you to page B -138 and had put the 94 versus 6 per cent comparisons which you clarified was for preschools. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes. Yes. And then he asked—
The Chairman Chairman And then asked you about — Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —about what were the percentages?
The Chairman Chairman Correct. I think that was where we were. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay.
The Chairman Chairman Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Okay. I’m sorry. I’m sorry, Mr. Chairman. I’m sorry, MP Smith. We would obviously have to get that information. It is not something they [would] readily have here. Heron Bay and Clearwater. What is the cost for and where are …
The Chairman Chairman Sorry. I did not actually hear. What was that 1 per cent? Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: That was . . . it is at 1 per cent to 3 per cent —
The Chairman Chairman One to three. Thank you. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —of our students do AP exams. And actually, that gets me down to the last ques-tion. But they have given me more information about your last question about the diploma. And it says, it is an accumulative GPA of 2.0 …
The Chairman Chairman No problem at all. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: And with that, Mr. Chairman, I think I have gone through . . . I think it has literally been 60 questions, or something. So I will sit and if there is anything else I will definitely answer that.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. We have been hearing responses to questions which have been given by the Honourable Minister for Education, Diallo Rabain. Is there any Member who wishes to speak? I see the Honourable Member and Shadow Minister Ben Smith. MP Smith, you have the floor.
Mr. Ben Smith Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all , I would like to thank the Minister for the fulsome answers that he has provided so far. His last set of answers were touching on a question that I believe has not been answered. And that was because of . . . …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Honourable Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you. I will switch to this other document I have which may be more fulsome. I may have missed that one where you are talking about . . . as you saw, for some reason the …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. We have been hearing responses from the Minister for Education, Diallo Rabain. Is there any other Member who wishes to speak in the debate? There being none . . . Okay. Minister. You have the floor. And that will conclude the debate. And if you would like …
The Chairman Chairman As corrected I believe but . . . Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Yes, because there are—
The Chairman Chairman As corrected, yes. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —corrections.
The Chairman Chairman As printed and corrected because— Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: As printed and corrected.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 16, 17, 18 and 41 be approved as both printed and subsequently corrected. Is there any objection? There being no objection; it is approved. [Motion carried: Ministry of Education, Heads 16, 17, 18 and 41 were approved as corrected and will stand as part …
The Chairman Chairman And further . . . No. We are not rising and reporting progress, are we? We are moving on to the next debate. And the next debate is a three- hour debate. Both for the benefit of the Members and members of the listening public, the second and final debate …
The Chairman Chairman Most of it. Hon. Vance Campbell: I will be ably assisted by Minister Furbert and the Premier himself.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. So we are going to have split roles, but at the moment we are going to have you lead off, are we Minister? Hon. Vance Campbell: That is correct. I am going to start the process. If the Premier is not here when I fin-ish, then Minister Tinee Furbert …
The Chairman Chairman Fantastic. Minister Campbell, you have the floor. Hon. Vance Campbell: —on Human Rights. So—
The Chairman Chairman If you are jumping around, perhaps you would just make clear which heads you are dealing with so we know. Hon. Vance Campbell: We will.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. You have the floor. Hon. Vance Campbell: And so, Mr. Chairman, I move the following heads: Head 1, Governor and Staff; Head 2, Legislature; Head 5, Office of the Auditor General; Head 56, Human Rights Commission; Head 63, Parliamentary Registrar; Head 85, Ombudsman’s Office; Head 92, Internal Au …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Minister. It has been moved that the various heads just set out by the Honourable Minister be taken under con-sideration. Is there any objection? There is no objection. Minister, you have the floor. Please move the heads when you are ready . . . sorry, please speak …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. We now are to hear from Minister Tinee Furbert on Head 56, Human Rights Commission. Thank you. Minister, you have the floor. NON -MINISTRY HEADS HEAD 56 —HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly I am pleased to present the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, page B -17. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. —where you will note that the Commission’s original budget for financial year 2023/24 was $1,347,000. The budget for the upcoming financial year 2024/25 is $1,380,000, which represents a 2 per cent increase of $33,000. Mr. Chairman, the Human Rights …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. That was Minister Furbert addressing us on Head 56, Human Rights Commission. We are now going to hear from the Honourable Premier, on Heads 1, 2 and 5. Namely, Governor [and Staff]; Legislature; Office of the Auditor General. Premier, you have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: …
The Chairman Chairman Premier, if I could ask you to just pause for a second. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman I’m sorry. Your numbers do not seem to be adding up with the numbers in the Budget Book. It may be— Hon. E. David Burt: Now, that would be a problem.
The Chairman Chairman It may be that they were revised and that I don’t have the revision. But the Budget Book in front of me does not seem to tally unless I’m mistaken. I think it’s page B -7. They are not far off; they are just not spot on. Hon. E. David …
The Chairman Chairman No problem. Hon. E. David Burt: Yes. Because . . . that is . . . so when I am saying $45,927, it is just saying $46[,000]. So it is rounding errors.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. Hon. E. David Burt: These are the specific and actual.
The Chairman Chairman You are giving me precise figures — Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: Yes.
The Chairman Chairman —where the ones in the Budget Book have been — Hon. E. David Burt: Rounded to the nearest million.
The Chairman Chairman I am grateful for that clarification. Please continue. You have the floor. Hon. E. David Burt: No problem. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, this increase is due to an increase in wages to cover the cost of living increases, an increase in rental, mobile equipment funding at the temporary residence, an …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Premier. Before you move on to the next head for the Legislature, we are just going to change the Chair. I will hand over to the Honourable Scott Simmons. Thank you, Premier. [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman]
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, the Honourable Member, Scott Pearman. For further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. The 958 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Premier is on Head 1, Governor and Staff and the Premier was taking his notes from page …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Premier. It is in recognition of Women’s — Hon. E. David Burt: Yes, I understand. International Women’s Day.
The Chairman Chairman International Women’s Day. Right. Hon. E. David Burt: I’ve got it. Mr. Chairman, if I may, I would like to move on to Head 2, which is the Office of the Legislature, which I am sure involves all of us.
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Mr. Premier. Head 2. HEAD 2 —THE LEGISLATURE Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I am proud to present the Budget for Head 2, the Office of the Legislature, as found on pages B -10 through B -13 of the Book of Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure …
The Chairman Chairman Don’t forget to keep me included. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, please. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Current parliamentary staff is as follows: • Acting Clerk to the Legislature , Mr. Clark W. Somner, serves as Head of Department and Clerk to the House of Assembly. He is the Ac-counting Officer of the department and over-sees …
The Chairman Chairman Members will be elated. Hon. E. David Burt: As will I, because I can have my office back.
The Chairman Chairman Exactly. [Laughter and inaudible interjection] Hon. E. David Burt: Not this year. They are going to move so we will begin the work next year. Clearly, $250,000 cannot do the work that is necessary. But Mr. Chairman, after which time sub-stantial capital works on the second phase of the extensive …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: The Parliament building refurbishment project, including the maintenance and repair fa-cilities of the Sessions House and its precincts fall under the remit of the Parliamentary House and Grounds Committee, chaired by the Deputy Speaker, the Honourable Der rick V. Burgess, JP MP, honorary cousin to …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. The total allocation for the Legislature for fiscal year 2024/25 is shown on page B -10 of the Estimates Book is $5,441,000 which represents an increase of 960 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of …
The Chairman Chairman So noted, Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: And of course, Members of the Executive are paid less than they were in 2008.
The Chairman Chairman So noted and minuted, Premier. [Laughter] Hon. E. David Burt: But that is just a fact. So that committee is meeting and I know that there are people listening and they will say, Ooh! But it is the law that they are required to meet every two years. That is …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Opposition Leader’s Office —Cost Centre 12015 Hon. E. David Burt: We know that the role of the Opposition Leader’s Office is important and non- partisan administrative aid is required and needed to oversee it operations. (I’m not sure how non- partisan, …
The Chairman Chairman Right. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you. Yes, staff salaries funding based on the latest CPA/BPSU [Bermuda Public Services Union] salaries and the approved regrading of two senior posts within the Legislature. Communications Hon. E. David Burt: Communications estimate for 2024/25 is $94,000, a decrease of $8,000 compared to 2023/24 …
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Performance Measures Hon. E. David Burt: The work and activities of the parliamentary staff and Members of the Legislature, the House of Assembly, the Senate and the Parliamentary Committees, and our Youth Parliament, as well as statistics on the …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Hon. E. David Burt: The former Clerk to the Legislature, the Acting Clerk and the Assistant Clerk also con-ducted a DEOD [Department of Employee and Organizational Development] training course in April 2023 on “Understanding Standing Orders” and “The Legislative Process” for senior Government directors and heads of departments. Honourable …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, very much, Premier. So noted. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That concludes my brief on Head 2. I am happy to move to Head 5.
The Chairman Chairman Carry on, Premier. We are still in the Committee of Supply. Go right ahead, Premier. Just to remind Members that we are in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the fiscal year 2024/25. The Premier has completed Heads 1 and 2, …
The Chairman Chairman Right. That is fine. Thank you, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: So, [I am] just stating that there has been a movement of funds amongst the various operating line items as follows. Subjective analysis , $3,326,000, an increase of $110,000. On Salaries, this increase over the prior year just relates …
The Chairman Chairman That issue remains a challenge, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: A significant challenge. The market for professional accountants is quite competitive, and office salary ranges are comparable with similar positions in g overnment but remain uncompetitive with salaries in the private sector. The office strives to provide a supportive and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Premier. He completes his Heads 1, 2, and 5. I recognise the Honourable Minister Vance Campbell. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I would now like to present the brief of the P arliamentary Registrar , Head 63 found on pages B …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: —of the Estimates and of Revenue and Expenditure.
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. Go right ahead, Minister. HEAD 63 —PARLIAMENTRY REGISTRAR Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the mandate of the Parliamentary Registrar is To independently manage elections and promote voter awareness in Bermuda to facilitate free and fair elections. Mr. Chairman, the Parliamentary Registrar is appointed by the Governor under …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Estimates of E xpenditure and R evenue Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the total budget allocation for the Parliamentary Registrar’s office in re-spect of fiscal year 2024 /25 as shown on page B -20 of the Budget Book is $1,279,000, an increase of $24,000 from the …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Election Reform Research Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the Election Reform cost centre has not been allocated funds for the fiscal period 2024/ 25. This decision is attributable to the prioritisation of resources towards the ongoing work of the Constituencies Boundary Commission and preparations for the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes? Subjective Analysis of Current Account Estimates Hon. Vance Campbell: Professional Services is decreased by $11,000. Over the next fiscal period, it is anticipated that the majority of funds allocated for this object code will be directed towards financing the operations of the Constituency Boundaries Commission. This encompasses covering sitting …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Revenue Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, Revenue is generated from the issuing of apostilles. Total revenue for the 2024/ 25 fiscal year is estimated at $250,000, which is unchanged from the approved budget for 2023 /24. The Parliamentary Registrar’s office remains committed to delivering prompt and …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. Members, just as a reminder, we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of R evenue and Expenditure for the year 2024 /25. The Minister is on his h eads. Go right ahead, Minister. HEAD 85 —OFFICE OF THE OMBUDSMAN Hon. …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: —found on pages B -23 through B-26 and C -9 of the Budget Book. Mr. Chairman, the Ombudsman is an independent, non- governmental official who investigates complaints from the public about the administrative actions of public authorities. The role of the Ombudsman is …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Expenditure Overview Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I now turn my attention to page B -24. The estimated budget for 2024/ 25 is $1,050,000, an overall net increase of $33,000 when compared to the revised budget for 2023 /24. Variances between 2023/ 24 original estimates and …
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. Go right ahead, Minister. HEAD 92 —DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL AUDIT Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to present the budget for Head 92, the Department of Internal Audit found on pages B -27 through B -29 of the Budget Book. Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Plans for the Upcoming Year Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, plans for the upcoming year [are] to execute the department’s 2024/25 approved audit plan to conduct six audit projects and five compliance reviews [and] to continue to train and develop staff especially the three Bermudian internal …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. Just a reminder that we are in the Committee [of Supply] for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25, and the Minister has just completed his brief on Heads 63 and [85]. Those are Heads 63, 85, and 92. …
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman That is fine. Go ahead, Minister. Expenditure Overview Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the total current expenditure for 2024/25 allocated to the ICO is esti-mated to be $1,116,902. I believe the Budget Book would show $1,117,000. It is rounding.
The Chairman Chairman It does. Hon. Vance Campbell: It represents an increase of $39,168 from the 2023/24 original budget of $1,077,734. Salaries and Wages Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the amounts for Salaries and Wages for 2024/25 increased by a total of $105,000 when compared to the 2023/24 original budgeted amount of $860,000. …
The Chairman Chairman You may, Minister. Go right ahead. Current Year Achievements and Plans for the Upcoming Year Hon. Vance Campbell: Okay. The performance measures developed for the Office of the Information Commissioner are found on pages B -33 through B -35. Bermuda House of Assembly As noted, the Information Commissioner ’s 2023 …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. You can carry on. You can go right ahead. Hon. Vance Campbell: The Information Commissioner . I now move on to the Head 101, the Privacy Commissioner.
The Chairman Chairman That is fine. Go ahead, Minister. HEAD 101 —PRIVACY COMMISSIONER Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to present the budget for Head 101, the Office of the Privacy Commissioner for Bermuda found on pages B -36 through B -40 of the Budget Book. Mission and Mandate Hon. Vance …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: The date for the Act coming into full effect is 1 January 2025. And as I have stated before, we cannot wait (like some of us do at Christmas or on a birthday) run-ning into the store at the last minute to buy …
The Chairman Chairman In a timely manner. Hon. Vance Campbell: In a timely manner. The Act will apply to every organisation that uses personal information in Bermuda where that per-sonal information is used wholly or partly to form a part of a structural filing system whether that system is au-tomated or manual. The …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. Expenditure Overview Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, as shown on page B -36 of the Budget Book, the office has been allocated a budget for 2024/25 of $2,130,000, an overall net increase of $269,000 when compared to the original budget for 2023/24. Rentals for 2024/25 of $113,000, …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Performance Measures Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the Performance Measures for the Office of the Privacy Commis-sioner are found in the Budget Book on pages B -38 through B -40. In 2024/25, the Privacy Commissioner will engage in new initiatives related to implementing the Act, enabling …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Honourable Minister. Members, we continue in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. The Ministers have just completed their overview of Heads 1, 2, 5, 56, 63, 85, 92, 98 and 101. Are there any other …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know we are getting past that time now.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Everyone is looking out. What I would like to first start out by saying amongst the non- ministry departments is thank you to all of the staff, just as the Premier had stood up to thank the staff. I mean, these are pretty much independent ministries that seek out really …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier —I believe the Premier . . . there were some numbers that were slightly different for the Governor and Staff. There were some slightly different numbers. Hopefully, we make that change because if it is pushed over to Senate, then they may be reading some s lightly different numbers as …
The Chairman Chairman And you are working on Head 1, correct?
The Chairman Chairman At the moment.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier That is correct.
The Chairman Chairman Okay, that is fine.
The Chairman Chairman Under Governor and Staff.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes, that is correct.
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. L. Craig Cannonier: That is correct. So again, thank you. I also recognise for the non-ministries it is difficult for any Minister to answer these questions because they are independent bodies. So some of the questions I ask, essentially I am asking …
The Chairman Chairman Right.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier And they can get those questions back to us. So thank you very much. What I will do is start off with Head 1, under Governor and Staff. I was just curious as the Premier had gone through and he mentioned some changes coming up considering the Governor potentially leaving. …
The Chairman Chairman Under Head 2 under Legislature. Go right ahead, Shadow Minister.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Under Head 2 under Legislature. I am going to move over to Head 5.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier The Auditor General. The last question that I just asked, a similar question there as to the Auditor General: Were they actually affected by the cyberattack and are they at full capacity at this time? I want to move over to page B -15 under revenue. And it was not …
The Chairman Chairman The Shadow Minster continues on Head 5, under the Auditor General. Are you still on page B -15?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am going to move to page B-16.
The Chairman Chairman Okay. That’s fine.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I am going to move to page B-16 and under business unit 15000, Audit, the second item there, N umber of financial statement reviews completed. If you look at the original amount, and the target outcome, it is drastically . . . it is quite different. Now, the revised amount …
The Chairman Chairman We did. We did.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier So this is not the first time . . . I am not suggesting that this one . . . but there is a suggestion here that we are going back to this $251,000, which is what we saw back in 2020. It may be an indication that we might …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier I will move over to Head 85, Ombudsman’s Office. Head 85, Dispute resolution.
The Chairman Chairman You notice that no one is picking up the phone. [Laughter]
The Chairman Chairman If you must, Shadow Minister. Carry on. No one is picking up their phone. Carry on, Shadow Minister.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Head 85, Ombudsman’s Office. Again, these guys do a fantastic job. And I must say that it is not always easy in these non- ministries sometimes, especially when it comes to dispute resolutions. The numbers there really are pretty static. I really do not hav e any issues there. But …
The Chairman Chairman There are about 20, about 22 minutes left. But carry on.
The Chairman Chairman It is.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Like I said, I am just really looking for the office of the non- ministries to answer because I know it is difficult for the Ministers for this here. So, I am fine with that. Under Head 92, Internal Audit. I was very curious. This is to provide a …
The Chairman Chairman That would be Head 92, Internal Audit under page B -29.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier My apologies. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead. That’s okay. Go ahead.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier What is a surprise compliance? It is an odd term because it goes further on to say, reports issued for Cash/Purchase Orders. Is it sometimes that they are looking . . . is it a surprise audit? It is odd to say, surprise compliance. 978 8 March 2024 Official Hansard …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Surprise! Yes. And when you look, the original forecast was at 5. The revised amount is 3. So we are back up to 5. If the Minister could find out where we are with that. I am going to move over to page B -30, Head 98, Information Commissioner’s Office. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Oh. Okay. Yes. Under the to-tal amount for the 2024/25 estimate, in the general summary. We are in Head 98, Information Commissioner’s Office. I believe you mentioned a slightly differ-ent number than the total under the 2024/25 estimate of $1,117,000. I am pretty sure there was a slightly different number. …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. So this is a rounded- up number here. Hon. Vance Campbell: That is a rounding.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. Thank you. Answer the questions as we go!
The Chairman Chairman Great. There are about 10 minutes left.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Okay. I am going to skip over to page C -28.
The Chairman Chairman I’m wrong.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Everything all right?
The Chairman Chairman Shadow Minister, allow me to make a correction. I apologise. The debate should finish at 8:09 pm.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Oh. Okay. I will go back then.
The Chairman Chairman I do not know why I thought 7:49 pm. I apologise for that. Please, continue.
The Chairman Chairman That does not necessarily mean that one should absorb all the rest of the time. The Minister is waiting with bated breath. [Laughter]
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier All right. I will go back to, with your indulgence, Mr. Chairman—
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead. Go on. You have been given another 20 minutes.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Yes. Yes. Under Head 98, Information Commissioner’s Office, there was talk about PATI requests and the like under Performance Measures. I was just writing down, listening to the Min-ister, that there were 189, and the prior year was 150. But he also mentioned they were reducing the backlog. I …
The Chairman Chairman So noted.
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Thank you. That’s it. I will allow any other colleagues if they have any questions. Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: Thank you very much, Honourable Shadow Minister. I recognise the Honourable Member Mr. Scott Pearman. Mr. Pearman, you have the floor.
Mr. Scott Pearman Good evening, Mr. Chairman. And thank you to my honourable colleague, Craig Cannonier, for allowing me a little bit of time. I have three very quick questions. One really was for you, Mr. Chairman, and I think MP Cannonier covered it. When we were addressing the figures for Governor and …
The Chairman Chairman That would have been under Ombudsman’s Office, pages B -23 and B -24.
Mr. Scott Pearman Correct. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. That is all I have.
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Honourable Member. I recognise the Honourable Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I will do my best to answer the questions that were raised by the Honourable Member from constituency 12, MP Cannonier, who asked a number of questions about Government …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Honourable Premier. I recognise the Honourable Minister, Tinee Furbert. Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am going to answer the two questions that were posed this evening by MP Cannonier. One of the questions was about the types of complaints that were received …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Human Rights Commission is in the process of preparing the annual report which does share the extent of the types of complaints that the Human Rights Commission receives. But looking back to the reported stats since 2018, this …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Honourable Minister. Any other . . . Minister, anything further? I recognise the Honourable Minister Vance Campbell. Minister, you have the floor. Hon. Vance Campbell: Yes. Just in general, there was a common question around the provision of IT services and whether there were any major …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. That is fine. That is great. Any other Member wishes to speak to any of these Heads? There are none. Ministers have completed . . . go ahead Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 1, 2, 5, 56, 63, 85, 92, …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 1, 2, 5, 56, 63, 85, 92, 98 and 101 be approved. Is there any objection to the motion? No objection. So moved. [Motion carried: Non- Ministries Heads 1, 2, 5, 56, 63, 85, 92, 98 and 101 were approved and stand part of …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. It has been moved that the Committee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? There is no objection. Agreed to. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress and sought leave …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Members. [Gavel]
The Chairman Chairman I now ask for the Speaker of the House to take over from here. 982 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly House resumed at 7:59 pm [Hon. Dennis P. Lister, Jr., Speaker, in the Chair] REPORT OF COMMITTEE ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR …
The Speaker The Speaker Good evening, Members. Are there any objections to the House rising, reporting progress and seeking leave to sit again? There are none. Thank you. That brings us to a close, in particular for our listening audience, of the proceedings on today’s Budget Debate. We will now move on to the …
The Speaker The Speaker And just to assist you, Premier, for the clarity of the House and those listening, both Bills will be done at the same time. When we go to Committee, we will go to Committee once. And whilst in Committee we will deal with both Bills separately in a sense, but …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Opposition —Mr. Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Mr. Speaker, yes, thank you very much. Given the hour and the length of the day already, I also probably will not have any questions in Commit-tee, so I will just speak in the general debate. I do have a few observations and remarks. Let me start by noting that …
Mr. Scott Pearman KPMG was engaged to undertake an independent analysis which included an assess-ment of the ROC’s (that is the Registrar of Companies) projected revenues and operating expenditure as well as a jurisdictional comparison which culminated in a determination of the recommended fees. One could be forgiven from reading that sentence to …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I made it abundantly clear in the brief —which I provided to the Honourable Member in advance —and during my comments that these form . . . and we debated these exact fees during the General Economic …
The Speaker The Speaker Mm-hmm.
Mr. Scott Pearman I will respond to that, Mr. Speaker, that one man’s fees are another man’s taxes. I will also, because it is International Women’s Day, say that the other way which is one woman’s fees are [another] woman’s taxes . [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman I am getting some chirping, so obviously I have touched a nerve. But there we are. Now, let me move to the painful point, Mr. Speaker, the painful point . . . and the painful point as the Premier has acknowledged, whether these are new fees or new taxes, or …
The Speaker The Speaker Go right ahead. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: The Honourable Member is misleading the House.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Again! Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. E. David Burt: There was —again! There was never a question of disagreement on the point in which he is trying to put upon me. The point to which I was stating was very simple. He started by saying it was a political point. …
The Speaker The Speaker MP Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, Mr. Speaker, thank you. As the Minister of Finance and Premier wishes to go to the Budget Book, we can go to the Budget Book because it is curious the point he makes. In relation to the Registrar of Companies he is effectively saying it is a two- year …
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading] Hon. E. David Burt: I really thought this debate would be easy. I really tried to . . . with the briefs. I gave out defensive questions in advance. I asked if there were any questions in advance and now we are here, …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am going to just stick with the Premier’s own words which are these, and I quote, “ The introduction of these regulatory fees ,” (the introduction of these regulatory fees) “ is expected to add approximately $6 million to the public purse each year. ” Those are his words. …
Mr. Scott Pearman Right, “the introduction” . . . these are the Premier’s words. The introduction of these regulatory fees is expected to add approximately $6 million to the public purse each year. So obviously these are charges on business and these are charges on all busi-ness. And these are charges on local …
Mr. Scott Pearman And this is local business . . . I hear some chirping from the Honourable MP for constituency 29 and no doubt he will have his time.
The Speaker The Speaker Talk to me.
Mr. Scott Pearman He will have his time if he wants. So there we are. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman So there we are. If the Government wants to increase the cost of doing business, don’t be surprised if business reacts. That is the point. Now, if I could just go to the Bills themselves, two very short points. First of all, the Honourable Premier has explained that the first …
Mr. Scott Pearman So with that last point, I will take my seat. I hear more interpolation, and obviously the Premier has the right to . . . He is saying it is not true. It is retrospective. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman Well, listen, again I am being interrupted, Mr. Speaker . It is set to be retrospective. [Inaudible interjections]
Mr. Scott Pearman No doubt, if it is not retrospective to the 9 th of February, we can hear why from the Premier. Thank you, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, there is a lesson in this and the lesson in this is no matter how much you try to work with the other side, sharing briefs, asking those questions beforehand, going through …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker .
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Misleading and Imputing i mproper motive]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Premier is firstly misleading the House and secondly imputing an improper motive. We are standing here today, in this House, passing two pieces of legislation. Today is the 8 th of March. Because of certain things that have been signed off on, this will have retrospective effect back …
The Speaker The Speaker The Premier was on his feet already. He took a point of order from the other Member. So the Premier can continue. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Should I point of order my Premier?
The Speaker The Speaker No, your Premier . . . the Premier is quite capable of handling himself. [Inaudible interjections]
The Speaker The Speaker He is quite capable. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Go ahead, Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Whenever you are ready, Zane. Whenever you are ready.
The Speaker The Speaker Just don’t impute improper motives to the Member — Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker, I am not imputing improper motive, it is my opinion that the Honourable Member is being disingenuous when he gets up and says that we are passing something that people are finding out about and …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy. House in Committee 8:31 pm [Hon. Derrick V. Burgess, Chairman] COMMITTEE ON BILLS REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) ACT 2024 REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) (NO. 2) ACT 2024
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Member s, we are now in Committee of the whole [House] for further considera-tion of the Bills entitled the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Act 2024 and the second Bill the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) (No. 2) Act 2024 . Premier/Finance Minister Burt, you …
The Chairman Chairman Continue. REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much. There are four clauses. Clause 1 provides the title of the Bill. Clause 2 provides the meaning of terms used in the Bill. Clause 3 provides that an entity under the Act …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. Are there any speakers? There appear to be none. Minister. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that clauses 1 through 4 be approved. 988 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly The Chairman: It has been moved that clauses 1 …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Schedule be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: The Schedule passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, if I may I would like to move all the clauses for Bill two which is …
The Chairman Chairman The preamble. Hon. E. David Burt: Sorry?
The Chairman Chairman Do the preamble. Hon. E. David Burt: Oh sorry. I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for that. I was going a little bit fast.
The Chairman Chairman Uh-huh. REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) (NO. 2) ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: I ask your permission at this point in time to move all of the clauses for the Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) (No. 2) Act 2024.
The Chairman Chairman Continue. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, clause 1 provides for a citation for the Bill. Clause 2 amends the Companies Act 1981 to provide for payment of the annual corporate regulatory fee of $150 by a local company under section 121, of $500 …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Premier. Are there any further speakers? No? There appear to be none. Minister, want to move . . . Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that clauses 1 through 8 be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that clauses 1 through 8 be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. [Motion carried: Clauses 1 through 8 passed.] Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the preamble be approved.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the preamble be approved. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. Approved. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Bermuda House of Assembly Mr. Chairman, I move that both Bills be reported to the House as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that both Bills be reported to the House as printed. Are there any objections to that? There appear to be none. The Bills will be reported to the House as printed. Mr. Speaker. [Motion carried: The Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Act 2024 and …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the Bils being reported to the House as printed? No ob-jection? They have been reported as printed. Premier —your third readings? Okay. Premier, would you like to do your third readings of the two Bills? Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? No objections. Continue, P remier. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be now read for a third time …
The Speaker The Speaker The Bill has been read a third time by title only and is now passed. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . [Motion carried: The Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.] SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 21 …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. [Motion carried: Standing Order 21 suspended.] BILL THIRD READING REGISTRAR OF COMPANIES (ANNUAL CORPORATE REGULATORY FEES) (NO. 2) ACT 2024 Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I move that the Bill be now read for a third time by its …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Bill has been read a third time by title only and is now passed. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . [Motion carried: The Registrar of Companies (Annual Corporate Regulatory Fees) (No. 2) Act 2024 was read a third time and passed.]
The Speaker The Speaker Mr. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker . Before I move the motion to adjourn, I would just like to inform you that I do know that some of my Members wish to speak. 990 8 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any Member wish to speak to that? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, sir.
The Speaker The Speaker MP De Silva. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Thank you, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker, I rise tonight because I am tired. And I am tired, Mr. Speaker — [Crosstalk] PUTTING OUR LIVES ON THE LINE Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Mr. Speaker, as I rise to my …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And they do that regularly. Another Hon. Member: It is unacceptable. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: It is unacceptable.
The Speaker The Speaker Just speak to the Chair. Just speak to the Chair. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Okay. I will speak to the Chair. But, Mr. Speaker, for the record, I am tired. I am tired of the accusations and unrelentless attacks on our Attorney General’s husband, Mr. Speaker, to be …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hmmm. Another Hon. Member: Oh! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Because they might be legitimate? They might have expertise? Is it because they are Black? Because I can run off a litany . . . and I will run off some tonight, of when they were in power for …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Mm-hmm! Another Hon. Member: BC and M. [Crosstalk] Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Hang on now! Wait a minute!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Say it again! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Grant Gibbons, the former Minister when they were in Government, gave hundreds of thousands —hundreds of thousands —of dollars’ worth of contracts to Burland, Conyers and Marirea for the America’s Cup —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Millions! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: For the America’s Cup . I said hundreds and hundreds of thousands . . . and millions, okay? Because . . . and I will read it for you if you want, Mr. Speaker, I can table it. Because he had a trusted …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member That’s not friends and family? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But we must . . .yes, that’s not friends and family? But we must be subject to a constant barrage of accusations against our Member’s family member? Who happens to be an expert in his field? And that Honourable …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member He shredded the shredder? [Laughter] Another Hon. Member: But he hired a lawyer. Remember that lawyer he hired? Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But that’s okay. That’s okay. There was a former OBA Minister of Education that was sitting in Cabinet . . . was part and parcel of …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The same Gaming Commission they are complaining about! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Wait a minute! The same Gaming Commission that the Opposition are complain-ing about that has to be funded today. But you see this is what they do! Another example, there was a hurricane that blew down …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Unbelievable! Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: You see . . . you see the double standard? You see? These are the types of things that I refuse, as long as I got my time in this House, I will not let the people in this country forget what they …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Hmmm. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: I am just asking a question.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Or his grandfather. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Or maybe his grandfather. Where did they make their money? For all I know, could have been a slave owner. And I am not saying he was. I said could have been. That is all I am saying. And let me …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Fits the description. Another Hon. Member: Don’t worry about it. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And let me state for the record, again, there is no Opposition Member in this House. And I don’t like to talk without people being here but I think I have to state that …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member But they have a responsibility — Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: But when I got up on my feet, I think they had a responsibility to stay in this House until it is over. But let me say this, some say we have come a long way from slavery. …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Fancy that. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: And at the time I believe it was about $100,000 a year. And I said on this floor in 2 Royal Gazette , 19 September 2023 this House that $100,000 for the expertise and knowledge of Julian Hall was a steal!
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member And he was flogged to death. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, he was.
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Flogged to death. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: We were flogged to death in this House because of that contract. And I said it then and I will say it now that that was the best deal of this country to have Julian Hall as a representative working for …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member If there’s no conflict you’re not interested. Hon. Zane J. S. De Silva: Yes, if there’s no conflict you are not interested. But I am pleading to the Opposition and in particular . . . because the Honourable Member Pearman isn’t the only one. You would remember, Mr. Speaker, a …
The Speaker The Speaker Does any other Honourable Member wish to make a contribution? MP Simmons. INTERNATIONAL WOMEN’S DAY: HONOURING BERMUDA’S POLITICAL WOMEN LEADERS
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker . I would like to thank my colleague, the Honourable Member who just took his seat, for tackling the challenge that all of us on the Progressive Labour Party have dealt with from our inception. But when you understand the history of what our people have …
The Speaker The Speaker This weekend.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons This weekend. Sunday. But, you know, Mr. Speaker, we were up in the coffee room, and we were having conversations, as politicians do. And we got on the things that occurred under her leadership and it is amazing how in just four short years she transformed this country. We each …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, sir. MP Caines, would you like your time on the clock?
Mr. Wayne Caines If it pleases you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker You have your time, sir. ELDER ABUSE STARTING TO BE A PROLIFIC PROBLEM IN BERMUDA
Mr. Wayne Caines Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, recently I had to purchase a new black suit. Mr. Speaker, the question I am sure that is burning you as you sit there is, Why, MP Caines, did you have to purchase a new suit? Mr. Speaker, did I purchase a suit because …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. [Desk thumping]
The Speaker The Speaker Honourable Member, MP Swan? OBA OPPOSITION NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, tonight I am reminded of a gentleman who was carried up the stairs of the House of Parliament. You probably were in the House at that time—
The Speaker The Speaker I was.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —when he was carried up the steps by his colleagues to serve Bermuda. Today, Mr. Speaker, I had to take my shoes off and stand on my left foot right now to give this speech, and I pray indulgence to be barefoot like I had to be teaching golf when …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, when some 25 years later I got the opportunity to serve in another place —which I did in 1998 for some nine years, seven of them as Opposition Leader in the Senate—I went to the library that existed in another place, and I read the speeches of L. …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And a little 16- year-old, 17year-old, could not . . . I mean it is true. I am not telling you any lies. So, I am just here to say that when an Opposition week after week cannot participate in this debate . . . step aside and let somebody …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan So, I am here to tell you that this country is not being served well by an Opposition that fails to participate, that will be like Donald Trump and go on Twitter and social media and rely on the Royal Gazette and those lot to come here and get their …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Mr. Speaker, this evening I asked the indulgence of the Whip to go to the airport. In 2022 . . . because in 1980 and 1970s I was a trail-blazer in this country, representing this country wearing a blazer like this (probably this one, too, because it has moth holes …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan —because his mama worked for an insurance company here 40 years ago before going back. Relationships. People love Bermuda overseas. And you know, Mr. Speaker, when I was over in the UK being strong and training and the like, I al-ways thought it was because of golf. And I am …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes. But you know what I said to myself? And I have used this before in a speech. I had the biggest conflict of interest in this country. I care so much about this country that I gave up my career to run at 25- years -old. And I never …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan They all need to be here. They need to take a page. They need to take a page out of the book of L. Frederick Wade, Lois Browne- Evans, Ottiwell Simmons. They need to take a book out of the page of Reggie Burrows and Stanley Lowe. They need to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Uh-oh!
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Having to deal with the guarantee and the money that was committed by the Government on the eve of a General Election happened. And a pandemic. And, given the opportunity to Bermuda House of Assembly spend money on the people, the PLP did that in 2009, 2010, and 2011 to …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member You were a Gombey.
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Well, he whaled me. And I am just here to say that, Mr. Speaker, we care in this House. And I think it is high time that persons know that the people whose shoulders we stand on also cared about this country, and did yeoman service in doing so. But …
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