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House of Assembly Session 2023/2024 192 speeches

March 6, 2024

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Session Summary

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This was primarily a budget session where Minister Tinee Furbert presented the Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors' $85.3 million budget for 2024/25. The Premier provided updates on the Tax Reform Commission's work examining Bermuda's tax system, including new timelines for recommendations by October 2024. Minister Hayward announced faster processing times for spousal letters - down from 3 months to 1 month for new applications and 10 days for renewals.

Chamber House of Assembly
Date Mar 6, 2024
Session 2023/2024
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Speakers 13
Speeches 192

Key Topics

Budget debate for the Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors (covering $85.3 million in spending)Tax Reform Commission update and appointment of new commissioner Dr. Claudette FlemingImmigration processing improvements for spousal letter applicationsCondolences for Leon Place of Places Gombeys and other community members

Bills & Motions

Tourism Investment (Azura Bermuda) Order 2024 was tabled by Junior Minister Swan
The House moved into Committee of Supply to begin budget debates for the Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors
No bills were passed or voted on during this session - it was primarily focused on budget presentations and ministerial statements

Notable Moments

Birthday wishes were extended to the Speaker's wife, Mrs. Miranda Lister, with multiple MPs joining in
Heartfelt condolences were paid to the family of Leon Place, founder of the Places Gombeys troupe, recognizing his cultural contributions to Bermuda
Dr. Claudette Fleming was appointed as the final member of the Tax Reform Commission, bringing expertise from her 22 years leading Age Concern

Debate Transcript

192 speeches from 13 speakers
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. The Clerk will lead us in prayer . PRAYERS [Prayers read by Mr. Clark Somner , Acting Clerk ]
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning, Members. [Gavel]
The Speaker The Speaker The House is now in session. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES [Minutes of 1 and 4 March 2024 ]
The Speaker The Speaker Members, the Minutes of March 1 and March 4 have been circulated. Are there any amendments required? There are none. The Minutes will be printed as confirmed. [Minutes of 1 and 4 March 2024 confirmed] MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE SPEAKER OR MEMBER PRESIDING APOLOGY
The Speaker The Speaker MP Dunkley has indicated his absence today. And Minister Wilson will be out in bereavement of her father -in-law, who will be funeralised today. MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PAPERS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO THE HOUSE
The Speaker The Speaker The Junior Minister has a paper this morning. Would you like to present your paper, Junior Minister? TOURISM INVESTMENT (AZURA BERMUDA) ORDER 2024
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker . Mr. Speaker , I have the honour to attach and submit for the consideration of the Honourable House of Assembly the Tourism Investment (Azura Bermuda) Order 2024, as made by the Minister responsible for Tourism under section 3 of the Tourism Investment Act 2017, together with …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. PETITIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS AND JUNIOR MINISTERS
The Speaker The Speaker There are two such Statements this morning. The first is in the name of the Premier and Minister of Finance. Premier. Hon. E. David Burt: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. UPDATE ON THE TAX REFORM COMMISSION Hon. E. David Burt: Mr. Speaker , I rise this morning to provide an update to this Honourable House on the ongoing work of the Tax Reform Commission [TRC or the Commission] . Under the Tax Reform Commission Act 2017, the Tax …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Premier. Members, the next Statement this morning is in the name of the Minister of Economy and Labour. Minister Hayward. Hon. Jason Hayward: Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning. NEW PROCESSING TIMELINES FOR SPOUSAL LETTER APPLICATIONS Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I rise before this Hono urable House today to share that the Department of Immigration has established improved processing time for spousal letter applications . It is expected that this change will be welcomed by applicants. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Minister. Members, that brings us to the end of the Statements for this morning. And we will move on. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker The Speaker There are no written questions today. But based on the Statements that were just given, there is an indication that a Member would like to ask ques-tions on the second Statement. Let me just adjust our timeline. And then, Minister Hayward, we will have the questions put to you for …
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier Yes. Thank you very much. And again, this is a great Statement to hear this morning, I am sure, for most folks finding themselves needing a spousal letter. Just curious. How many a year, annually, do you have of spousal letters being applied for, approximately?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I will endeavour to provide the Honourable Member with the exact numbers.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. 806 6 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Honourable Member, that is not something that he carries with him, but he will get it for you.
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? Supplementary or any further question?
Mr. L. Craig Cannonier No, thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker MP Jackson. QUESTION 1: NEW PROCESSING TIMELINES FOR SPOUSAL LETTER APPLICATIONS
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Yes, of the applications that do come in, can the Minister please provide, what is the current turnaround time for the letters to be issued?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. [Inaudible interjections]
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No. What the current time is. I know what the hopeful time is. But I would like to know what the real time is.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: As indicated in the Statement, there was a three- month processing time for a new application and a one- month processing time for renewals. Since February, mid- February of this year, we have amended the processing times. So there is a onemonth processing t ime …
The Speaker The Speaker Supplementary? SUPPLEMENTARY
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, Mr. Speaker. So of those, under what circumstances then would an application take over a year to process?
The Speaker The Speaker Minister. Hon. Jason Hayward: Mr. Speaker, I am fairly confident in saying that if an application takes a year to process, it means that the application was received incomplete, and the department is waiting on information to process that application. It is very , extremely rare to have a spousal …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Supplementary?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson No. That is fine, Thank you.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. No further supplementaries? No further questions? Ministers, Members, we draw the Question Period to a close and we will move on. CONGRATULATORY AND/OR OBITUARY SPEECHES
The Speaker The Speaker Would any Member wish to speak to this? None? Oh! MP Lister.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good morning, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Good morning.
Mr. Dennis Lister III Good morning to all of the listening audience. Mr. Speaker, I would like to first start off by sending congratulations to the Bermuda Muay Thai team. They have recently been competing overseas, and they have done well representing Bermuda. Out of the four members, all of them received or won …
Mr. Dennis Lister III Growing up in Bermuda, you know, you follow the Gombeys —Christmas, Boxing Day, 24 th of May, every holiday. [Inaudible interjection and laughter ]
Mr. Dennis Lister III So, to Mr. Place of the Places Gombeys, I would say [this] is probably one of the longest-established Gombey troupes. So, they have lost their leader , but the tradition will continue on. And Gombeys are a tradition in Bermuda. And we look forward to seeing it continue. But condolences …
Mr. Dennis Lister III But I would like to send birthday congratulations to none other than your wife and my mother. Today is her birthday. [Desk thumping]
Mr. Dennis Lister III I will not say the age, Mr. Speaker. But it is her birthday, and I would like to send her well wishes. And I will associate the House, too, Mr. Speaker. With that I will take my seat. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. MP Simmons, I recognise you being quick on your feet next.
Mr. Jamahl S. Simmons Oh, yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I of course have to associate myself with the remarks wishing birthday wishes to your wife, Sister Miranda. I want to thank her for all that she does in our constituency and our community. She is an asset and a treasure, not just to …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Deputy Premier, you have your three minutes. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to certainly be associated with the birthday well wishes to Mrs. Miranda Lister. And I would also like to be associated with the condolences to the Place family on …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution at this time? None other. Before we move on, I am sure Mrs. Lister will appreciate the remarks expressed to her this morning on her birthday. I will make sure she knows. MATTERS OF PRIVILEGE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS FOR THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE ON MATTERS OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. NOTICE OF MOTIONS
The Speaker The Speaker There are none. 808 6 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly ORDERS OF THE DAY
The Speaker The Speaker For the listening audience again, it is the resumption of the annual Budget Debate. This morning, today , we have two m inistries that will be debated. They will be the Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors, which is this morning for four hours. And after that, the Cabinet …
The Speaker The Speaker Any objections? There are none. MP Simmons.
Mr. Scott Simmons Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good morning to Honourable Members. House in Committee at 10:2 5 am [Mr. Scott Simmons, Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 2024/25
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for the further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. Today we will be looking at Heads 86, 23 and 55 under the Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Senior s. I am going to recognise …
The Chairman Chairman Good morning. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I move the following Heads: 86, the Minist ry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors Headquarters; 23, Child and Family Services; and 55, Financial Assistance now be taken under consideration.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads [86,] 23 and 55 be approved. Is there any objection to the motion? There is none, g o ahead, Minister. MINISTRY OF YOUTH, SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SENIORS Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am pleased to present the 2024/25 budget estimates for …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Ministry collaborated with the charitable organisation HOME and the Homelessness Advisory Panel to review a work plan to end homelessness in Bermuda. On World Homelessness Day, 10 October 2023, a community survey was launched to gather data on the …
The Chairman Chairman I will allow the Minister just to pause for just a brief second. And I will remind Members that we are in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. The Minister is currently in Head 86 under the Ministry …
The Chairman Chairman I apologise. 814 6 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Honourable Shadow, do you think you can put a question to the Chair? But I would rather that the Minister continued. Is there a need to interrupt?
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Yes, please. Can the Minister just repeat that number again, please?
The Chairman Chairman Not customary, but, Minister, would you repeat the number for the Honourable Shadow? Hon. Tinee Furbert: During fiscal year 2022/23, ADS opened 287 new cases (an increase of over 10 per cent from the previous fiscal year).
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. These included the following: • 33 case management referrals for persons under 65 years of age with disabilities, with eight of these including reports of abuse; • 165 case management referrals for persons over 65 years of age; …
The Chairman Chairman Page B -289. Yes, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, we are now moving beyond the previous restrictions associated with COVID -19 and the impact they had on services offered at the K. Margaret Carter Centre. As of April 1, 2023, KMCC has been back to full capacity and able …
The Chairman Chairman As the Minister continues on the Head 86 under the Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors under programme 8603, Youth Services, business unit 96110, I just want to remind Members that we remain in Committee, that the debate began at about 10:26 and that we have expended about an …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you. Hon. Tinee Furbert: This funding level provides for staffing, communications, materials and supplies for 16 youth programmes. Mr. Chairman, currently Youth Services supports approximately 550 preschool, primary and middle school age participants in after -school programmes, 1,650 preschool, primary and middle school participants in out -of-school programmes across …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Go ahead. Grants Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, the breakdown of the budget allocation for the Ministry grants can be seen on page C -21 of the Estimates Book. In fiscal year 2024/25 the following charities and organisations will receive a grant from the Ministry of Youth, …
The Chairman Chairman We are in Committee, Members. We are in Committee. Hon. Tinee Furbert: [Continuing] • To uphold the Ministry’s commitment to our senior population, grants totalling $1,170,000 has been allocated to nursing homes Matilda Smith Williams and Lorraine Rest Home. • A grant of $75,000 has been allocated to the Women’s …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead. 820 6 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, the budget allocated for salaries is $4,209,000 [sic] for fiscal year 2024/25, an increase of $2,018,000. This salary allocation covers the Ministry’s 80 full -time equivalents (found on page B -290). …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Minister. HEAD 23 —DEPARTMENT OF CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I now wish to present fiscal year 2024/25 estimates of expenditure for Head 23 —the Department of Child and Family Services.
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Tinee Furbert: These are found on pages B -293 through B -300, C -8, C-16 and C -21 of the Estimates Book. Mr. Chairman, as found on page B -293, the Department of Child and Family Services [DCFS] mission is Protecting children by strengthening families …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Programme 2302 Services to Individuals and Families Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The activities covered in programme 2302 are as follows: • business unit 33020, Investigating and Screening (formally known as Family Services); • business unit 33030, Foster Care; • business unit 33200, Counselling …
The Chairman Chairman That would be fine, Honourable Minister. 824 6 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Members, just so that you are aware, the Minister has applied and advised that she has another appointment and unfortunately will not be able to continue with her brief. Her brief will be …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the department is required to respond within 24 hours, five days or ten days depending on the nature of the referral and the designated timeframe. The department received 232 referrals that required a 24 -hour response, 462 referrals required a five …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the foster care section of the Department of Child and Family Services is responsible for providing alternative living arrange-ments for children under the age of 18 years old who need out of home placement . The budget estimate for business unit 33030 for the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: In May 2023, Foster Care Month, the Foster Care Team held its Annual Appreci-ation Tea for Bermuda’s foster parents. The keynote speaker was Ms. Sierra Reid, who spent time in foster care as a youth and is now a Master’s Degree- level Special Education Teacher. …
The Chairman Chairman Absolutely, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: They have a budget of $1,189,000. Mr. Chairman, the purpose of the Bermuda House of Assembly Counselling and Life Skills (CLS) business unit within the Department of Child and Family Services is to ad-vance and promote the emotional well -being of youth up to 18 …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. It is so, Shadow. I am going to acknowledge the Deputy Premier. Deputy Premier. Hon. Walter H. Roban: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman Good afternoon. Hon. Walter H. Roban: I do move that we adjourn for lunch until 2:00 pm.
The Chairman Chairman So moved. Adjourned until 2:00 pm. Proceedings in Committee suspended at 12:2 6 pm Proceedings in Committee resumed at 2:00 pm [Mr. W. Lawrence Scott , Chairman] COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY ESTIMATES OF REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR 202 4/25 MINISTRY OF YOUTH, SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SENIORS HEAD 2 3—CHILD …
The Chairman Chairman I trust everybody had an enjoyable lunch?
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we are now in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. We are going through the [items] under Head 23 of the Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors, whic h are now to be debated. I call …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, if we could use our dulcet undertones when having conversations, that would be most appreciated. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, large demands continue to be placed on the Department of Child and Family Services due to CAS’s lack of resources and the Education Ministry’s inability to service children …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. Is there— Hon. Tinee Furbert: I have more. I have one more head. HEAD 55 —DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE Hon. Tinee Furbert: Mr. Chairman, I will now present the estimates of expenditure and revenue for Head 55, the Department of Financial Assistance, which can be found on …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. For the listening audience, we are in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the 2024/25 budget. This is a four -hour debate. We are now on hour three and a half. So, we have 30 minutes left in this …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. And before I get started, and I will get directly into questions, but I want to acknowledge a couple of things. One, the very hard work of this Ministry. It is unbelievable the amount of programmes and effort and work that go into it. And I …
Ms. Susan E. Jackson (Just looking at my notes.) If we may now just move into seniors, I have a couple of questions which will have to go back to Head-quarters because they do not really have multi -page departments as yet. So, page B -289, and this would be line item, business unit …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, MP Jackson. Are there are any other Members who would like to speak to these heads? With there being nobody else wanting to speak to the heads, Minister, did you want to answer some of these questions? Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to my …
The Chairman Chairman We have two minutes left in this debate. Is there anybody who would like to speak? MP Jackson.
Ms. Susan E. Jackson I have just one more question. Thank you. I believe it was under Head 23, Child and Family Services, page B -294 under . . . I believe it was under programme 2304, Administration. You mentioned that there will be a domestic abuse specialist who will be brought on board. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister. If you can move your heads, as we have come to the end of this four - hour debate. Hon. Tinee Furbert: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Heads 86, 23 and 55 be approved as printed.
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 86, 23 and 55 be approved. Is there any objection to that motion? As there are no objections, agreed to. [Motion carried: The Ministry of Youth, Social Development and Seniors Heads 86, 23 and 55 were approved and stand part of the Estimates of …
The Chairman Chairman Very well, Minister. We will now place it into consideration. If there is no objection to that motion? There is none. Go ahead, Minister. HEAD 9 —CABINET OFFICE Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Cabinet Office operates at the centre of the public service providing leadership, …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Salaries, line item 1, estimated at $6,773,000 , shows an increase of $24,000 . Mr. Chairman, while not a material amount, the variance is worth mentioning to simply highlight that despite the mentioned salary uplift of $334,000, the transfer out of the Regulatory and …
The Chairman Chairman Mm-hmm. Carry on, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, digital transformation is essential to ensure that the Government of Bermuda can take fuller advantage of technology to better serve the public. The funds that were reserved for the implementation team will be used to support digital transfo rmation within the …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: They are as follows: • Established economic, cultural and trade ties, as well as laid the foundational relationship for commercial engagement with the UAE and Qatar. • Positioned the recognition of Bermuda, relatively unknown in the UAE due to a lack of diplomatic presence, …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister. Hon. Vance Campbell: The measures developed for the Cabinet Office are found on pages B -46 and B -47. Most of the measures outlined in 2023/24 have been or are anticipated to be realised by March 31, 2024, with continuance throughout the 2024/25 period. Mr. Chairman, kindly …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: You will note that in 2023/24 two safety and health audits were undertaken. One audit involved an inspection of the Tynes Bay Facility that included a thorough examination of its past self -inspections, as well as an examination of the systems used to track implementation progress …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, we remain in Committee of Supply for further consideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. The Minister is in Head 9, the Cabinet Office. His programme is 0902 under the Economic Policy and Foreign Aff airs. And he is in business unit 19075, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, sir. Hon. Vance Campbell: You will note that the Washington, DC Office shows an allocation in the amount of $452,000, a minor increase of approximately $26,000, or 6 per cent, higher than the current 2023/24 allocation. Mr. Chairman, we are pleased to inform the House that the director of …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Ministe r. Hon. Vance Campbell: The second measure that is intended to track responses to customer complaints within 48 hours continues to be a work in progress. The feedback system went live on the government portal in 2023 and includes an automated response feature which means that receipt …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister . Hon. Vance Campbell: Quickly becoming a recognised public service staple is the monthly Public Service Excellence Award initiative which recognises service excellence in the preceding month or two and the complimentary annual Public Service Excellence Awards end of year celebration where all nominees for the …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, in 2024/25, the Head of the Public Service programme will continue to evolve to strengthen the administrative policy develop-ment and infrastructure of the Public Service. Mr. Chairman, on that note, it is expected that a Deputy Head of the Public Service will be appointed …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead, Minister . Hon. Vance Campbell: Members of this Honourable House will be aware that modernisation of the legislation governing intellectual property rights is currently in progress. This Government has embarked on an enormous undertaking to update the country’s legislation governing trade marks, patents, registered designs and copyrights. These …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you very much, Ministe r. The Minister has concluded his brief as it relates to Head 9 under the Minist ry . . . he is the Honourable Minister with responsibility for the Cabinet Office. Minister, your next head is Head 13, I believe. Hon. Vance Campbell: That is …
The Chairman Chairman Very well, Minister , at your leisure. HEAD 13 —BERMUDA POST OFFICE Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I present the budget for Head 13, the Bermuda Post Office, found on pages B -48 through B -54 of the Budget Book. The Bermuda Post Office is governed by the Post Office …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, go ahead, Minister . Hon. Vance Campbell: The Bermuda Post Office has been allocated a total of $9,620,000 for the financial year 2024/25. This amount this reflects an increase of $335,000, or 3.6 per cent, from the original 2023/24 budget allocation of $9,285,000. The percentage differ-ence as has been …
Mr. Chairman. The Chairman Very well, Honourable Minister , go right ahead. Revenue Overview Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the Post Office continues to provide postal and other services as man-dated by the Bermuda Government and supported by local legislation and UPU regulations. As a British Dependent Territory, the Government of Bermuda has a …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: —Schedule C. The Bermuda Post Office has been allocated $15,000 for computer equipment and (on page C -4) Capital Development of . . . they have been allocated an amount of $500,000 to renovate the General Post Office main floor to help im-prove operational efficiencies and …
The Chairman Chairman Honourable Members, the Minister continues in the Committee of Supply for further con-sideration of the Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure for the year 2024/25. The Minister is in Head 13 on the Post Office and he is on C -9 which is the Cabinet Office department. Honourable Minister, you may …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, Minister. Performance Measures Hon. Vance Campbell: The performance measures developed and reserved for the Bermuda Post Office are found on pages B -54 and B -55. These measures are directly related to the work done within the Post Of-fice to meet both local and international mail and delivery standards …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Policy Changes Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, this budget statement from the Bermuda Post Office is a reality - based reflection of Government ’s investment in the Bermuda Post Office. Policy changes within this budget year are focused on an increased emphasis on digitisation and diversification …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. Plans for the Upcoming Year Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the Bermuda Post Office’s high level objectives for the next budget year are • to modernise postal legislation to reflect the changing postal industry both locally and internationally in line with ensuring compliance with UPU acts …
The Chairman Chairman Absolutely! Hon. Vance Campbell: Alternatively, customers can ask the Post Office to pick up and deliver pre- addressed packages anywhere in Bermuda within 24 hours at a cost of $7.50 each for packages up to 20 pounds. Mr. Chairman, lastly, the Post Office continues to serve the local community in …
The Chairman Chairman Very well, Minister . Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I now move on to Head 32, Department of Planning.
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister. HEAD 32 —DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, it gives me great pleasure to present the budget for Head 32, the Department of Planning found on pages B -55 to B -59, and C -17 of the Approved Estimates [of Revenue] and Expenditure for …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister . Revenue Summary Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the department’s revenue is found on page B -57 for the 2024/25 fiscal year and is estimated to be $1,691,000. This estimate represents an increase of $136,000 when compared to the budgeted revenue for the 2023/24 fiscal year. …
The Chairman Chairman The Minister continues in the Committee of Supply. He is on Head 32, the Department of Planning and he continues under Review Summary. Go right ahead, Minister . Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, • The projected revenue for Elevator Licences is $200,000 and is a relatively static number due to …
The Chairman Chairman Go ahead. Manpower Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, the department’s employee numbers are outlined on page B -57 of the Budget Book. For the past three years two administrative support positions were not funded. One of these posts falling within the Administration business unit of the department will now be …
The Chairman Chairman Go right ahead, Minister . Output Measures Hon. Vance Campbell : Mr. Chairman, the performance measures for the department are presented on pages B -58 to B-59 of the Budget Book. These performance measures remain largely unchanged from when they were first introduced last year. For the business unit 42070, …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: Not all successfully, I might add. P lanning permission was granted for two hotel residence buildings at Harbour Drive subdivision. Approval was granted to create 13 additional lots at Wilkinson Quarry and the department carried out comprehensive assessments for a substantial tourism and res-idential development at …
The Chairman Chairman Yes. Hon. Vance Campbell: And there is also the expansion of the port facilities in Dockyard, as well, that we expect to process an application for. Mr. Chairman, for the business unit 42080, Building Permits, the statistics for both the submission of building permits as well as the issuance of …
The Chairman Chairman For the listening audience, this is Minister Vance Campbell presenting on the Cabinet Office in our [Budget] Debate. We are now in the Committee of Supply for further consideration of Estimates of Revenue and Expenditure. Minister Campbell has a four - hour debate which started at 4:00 pm. It is …
The Chairman Chairman The Honourable Minister Campbell has finished his presentation on Head 51. He does have two more heads to go. He has Head 61 and Head 80. Minister, you have the floor. Bermuda House of Assembly HEAD 61 —THE DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYEE AND ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT Hon. Vance Campbell: Thank you, Mr. …
The Chairman Chairman Thank you, Minister Campbell. Is there anybody who would like to speak to these heads? I recognise MP Scott Pearman.
Mr. Scott Pearman Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think we have 15 minutes left.
The Chairman Chairman You have 16 minutes.
Mr. Scott Pearman All right, 16 minutes. Well, I will bowl a few overs and see what the Minister wants to tell us this evening before we come to an end. Starting with the Cabinet Office, which is on page B -41, Head 9. It does show savings of some $18 million, but …
Mr. Scott Pearman That is line item 8123, for the Premier’s benefit because he asked me which one it was. And it is 8123 on page B -57, Head 32. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, those are my questions.
The Chairman Chairman Is there anyone else who would like to speak on these heads? With there being no one else indicating that they would like to speak, Minister, did you want to respond to some of these questions? And for the listening public we are in the Committee of Supply for further …
The Chairman Chairman Minister, if I could just ask for your indulgence. It has been brought to my attention that we might have to correct the record. 880 6 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Honourable Member Scott Pearman, during your summation you stated that it was publicly [said] by …
Mr. Scott Pearman I certainly did mean to say $300,000 [sic]. Thank you for correcting me, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman Chairman All right. Thank you. Just let the record show that it was $350,000 and not $350 million. Sorry about that, Minister. You can have the floor again. Hon. Vance Campbell: No problem. So, again, the Tourism grant, that is not my remit. I know when the question was asked, if …
The Chairman Chairman Yes, the Tourism head is not up for debate right now, so you do not have to— Hon. Vance Campbell: I don’t have to answer, but I thought I would put that out there and answer that. So, if we look at Head 9, there was a question as to …
Mr. Scott Pearman There were two that I asked that you didn’t answer. Or one you answered in part. First of all, it was where on page B -51 was the money for MyBermudaPost? On what line item? That was the specific question. Hon. Vance Campbell: Can you repeat that again?
Mr. Scott Pearman Yes, was on page B -51. Where is the MyBermudaPost line item for the revenue? You remember the question about $300,000 [sic] that I misspoke and said $300 million. I was just curious where it is on that. And then secondly, in relation to the postings in Brussels and Washington, …
The Chairman Chairman And for the listening audience we are in the Committee of Supply for the Estimates of Reve-nue and Expenditure for 2024/25. Questions are being posed to Minister Vance Campbell on the heads that he has been doing . . . he has presented on Heads 9, 13, 32, 43, 51, …
The Chairman Chairman And we have . . . it looks like we have one minute left, if my eyesight is correct from back here. Are there any questions that can be posed and answered in 60, 59, 58 seconds?
Mr. Scott Pearman I can try. Head 51, page B -64, in relation to the COMS [communications] mailings that you were talking about being mailed out by the Gov ernment. Do you have a budgetary figure for those COMS mailings? What the annual cost was for all of those mailings you referred to. …
Mr. Scott Pearman I am happy to take it from the Minister by email at a later date if he does not have it at hand. Hon. Vance Campbell: I don’t have it handy right now and I can provide that to the Honourable Member in the not-too-distant future.
The Chairman Chairman All right, thank you, Minister. Bermuda House of Assembly And while you are on your feet, we have come to the end of our four -hour debate. Minister, would you like to move your heads? Hon. Vance Campbell: Mr. Chairman, I move that Heads 9, 13, 32, 43, 51, 61 …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that Heads 9, 13, 32, 43, 51, 61 and 80 be moved as printed. Are there any objections to that motion? With there being no objections, agreed to. [Gavel] [Motion carried: The Cabinet Office Heads 9, 13, 32, 43, 51, 61 and 80 were approved and …
The Chairman Chairman It has been moved that the Committee rise, report progress and ask for leave to sit again. Is there any objection to that motion? With there being no objection, agreed to. [Motion carried: The Committee of Supply agreed to rise and report progress and sought leave to sit again.] Hon. …
The Speaker The Speaker Members, are there any objections to the House rising and reporting progress and seeking leave to sit again? There are none. That brings us to an end of the Budget Debate process that we have participated in today and we thank Members for their participation. There is no other business …
The Speaker The Speaker Continue, no objections. Go ahead. [Motion carried: Standing Order 14 suspended.] BILL FIRST READING VOLUNTARY REGISTRATION OF VITAL DOCUMENTS (MISCELLANEOUS AMENDMENTS) ACT 2024 Hon. Walter H. Roban: Mr. Speaker, I am introducing the following Bill for its first reading so that it may be placed on the Order Paper for …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you.
Mr. Premier. ADJOURNMENT Hon. E. David Burt premier Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move that this Honourable House do now adjourn until—he is on his feet to speak. Someone is on his feet to speak —until Friday, 8 March. I see Ministers are up to speak.
The Speaker The Speaker I see two Ministers on their feet. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Deputy Premier, the Minister behind you was actually up before you. Minister, would you like to make a contribution at this time? Hon. Walter H. Roban: I will yield to the Minister. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker Would you like to make your contribution? 882 6 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker I have to set the clock . . . there we go. [Laughter]
The Speaker The Speaker You have your 20 minutes. USE OF CONSULTANTS Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, we stand at a crossroads of rhetoric and reality. A moment when the Opposition’s sensational claims deemed a response from this side grounded in facts, transparency and accountability. Mr. Speaker, the One Bermuda Alliance has …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Forty -one million dollars last year!
The Speaker The Speaker Members. Members. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —the PLP has spent more on consultants in the six years that we have been Government than the One Bermuda Alliance spent in the four years that they were Government. But Mr. Speaker, let’s not stop there. Let’s delve deeper into the Professional …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Aah! Ooh! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: So, Mr. Speaker, when the One Bermuda Alliance’s Leader stands up and repeats to the Royal Gazette, “The PLP should come clean regarding the consultants they hired” I challenge the One Bermuda Alliance to tell the public what contractors were hired during their …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Ooh! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Where did they travel and what was the value that the people of Bermuda got from their $2.8 million per year more than the Progressive Labour Party has spent in six years?
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Forty -one million dollars. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, lastly, what legal firms (and I hear the Member chirping because he should be able to answer this) were receiving the $5 million per year which is almost $2 million more than the Progressive Labour Party has spent per …
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Forty -one million dollars. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: So indeed, Mr. Speaker, . . . and I hear the Member chirping. I hear the Member chirping. Because when you add up consultants —
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member Facts are facts.
The Speaker The Speaker Member. Member. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: When you add up what was spent on consultants, contractors, travel and legal fees, the One Bermuda Alliance in four years, Mr. Speaker, Bermuda House of Assembly spent $2.6 million [sic] more per year than the Progressive Labour Party has spent in six …
Some Hon. Members Some Hon. Members Ooh! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: So, Mr. Speaker, when we ask them, Who was gaining all of that money? What contractors? What legal fees? An Hon. Member: Aah! [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: What legal firms? I hear the Member chirping, perhaps he will get up and …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Member is imputing improper motive. If he was going to suggest that there was something untoward in relation to payments made to a firm in which I am related, he better damn well have facts. Because he doesn’t!
The Speaker The Speaker Ah! Ah! Ah! Wait, wait, wait, wait. The last words you used, please withdraw —
Mr. Scott Pearman I’ll withdraw that word. I’m sorry.
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker —
The Speaker The Speaker The Member certainly indicated that you should produce some facts to support your comments. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, the— [Inaudible interjections]
An Hon. Member An Hon. Member The Budget Book! Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: The facts are in the Budget Books that stretch back to the beginning of their term. [Inaudible interjections and desk thumping] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: That’s where the facts are Mr. Speaker. And Mr. Speaker, as you know, those facts are …
Mr. Scott Pearman Point of order, Mr. Speaker. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: —people I’m speaking to.
The Speaker The Speaker Point of order. POINT OF ORDER [Imputing improper motive]
Mr. Scott Pearman The Honourable Member is imputing improper motive. If he is going to suggest any impropriety, he needs some proof. He does! And you know that, Mr. Speaker. It is not proper. It is not proper conduct in this House.
The Speaker The Speaker Member, I have given you a little leeway, but the point that is being stressed is that it is okay to make the comment. But if you are making comments to this degree can you produce more facts identifying the firm or company or whoever you think received t he …
The Speaker The Speaker Okay. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: That is what I said. I did not imply any firm.
The Speaker The Speaker Now, now . . . now that approach is acceptable. Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker The Speaker Had you said there was an individual or company then that would be different. But you asked them to name it, so that is acceptable. [Inaudible interjections] Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Well, Mr. Speaker, you know the saying goes, He doth protest too much. Hon. E. David Burt: Ooh! …
The Speaker The Speaker Just finish speaking to me. 884 6 March 2024 Official Hansard Report Bermuda House of Assembly Hon. Diallo V. S. Rabain: Mr. Speaker, it is ironic that I give this speech during the annual Budget Debate. We are not here to merely juggle numbers and demon-strate, but we are here …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Member. Does any other Member wish to make a contribution? Deputy Premier. COPING WITH THE COST OF LIVING Hon. Walter H. Roban: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for the opportunity to speak briefly tonight because it is important that we use the time in this particular Chamber …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Deputy. Does any other Member . . . MP Swan. A BALANCED BUDGET
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Yes, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to take a few brief moments to speak about the significance of Bermuda achieving a balanced budget in 2024. I believe it is the first time that this country has had one since 2002. [It is] significant because I remember some 12 years …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan “ 1Chamber data dive paints stark picture of economy.” And I said, boy, the Chamber is coming out with an article today, which I will deal with somewhat. And then I went looking for what the Chamber said as a collective when the budget was released. The most interesting thing …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And I want to say this: since 2002, [for] 22 years, [when] this country achieves a balanced budget it is huge! And the Royal Gazette has to have some responsibility to be responsible. And they want . . . they just want to hang on to that bone to paint …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan And if the same government is going to find a way to help the people get schol-arships and the seniors to be able to afford Bermuda . . . we all know that that is a difficult task. Right? That Government needs to be heralded in that regard. Right? And …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan That is the type of unfair, unlevel playing field that has existed in this country for centuries. It is a mind- set that we have to go against. Now, let me just talk a little bit about that article today. Because, you know, the article makes references to a time …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan That is what we did. And that does not get played up. And when you just go back and look at numbers without the context, it is dangerous. It is danger-ous! And yes, I know people left this country in great numbers. The same recession we blame on the PLP …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan That is the same mind- set that will cause the Royal Gazette to not allow me to go online and pull up an article today where businesses have heralded this Government for what it has done. And let me say this, right? And look, I take licks all the time. …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan I said, Oh, my, my, my. I shared that picture with some folks. I shared it with a professor of African American Soldiers of the New York University. There is a great mind- set. But you know what? I was trained how to navigate in those types of waters both …
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan Uh-huh! For free! [Laughter]
Mr. Hubert (Kim) E. Swan For free! My, my, my, my, my, my, my how we . . . And you know what? When . . . if only we could work together. Mr. Speaker, I want to tell you in the vein of working together I want to thank some good people out there. …
The Speaker The Speaker Thank you, Honourable Member. [Timer chimes]
The Speaker The Speaker No other Members moving . . . the House now stands adjourned until Monday morning . . . I got Monday on my mind . . . Friday morning at 10:00 am. Members, have a good evening. [Gavel] [At 8:47 pm, the House stood adjourned until 10:00 am, Friday , …
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